WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:10.039 Seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. 2 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:13.679 All right, don't forget, we've got you covered. Game day. 3 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:16.719 On Saturday, Louisville and pitt kickoff at four o'clock, which 4 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:19.079 means we will get our pregame show started at three. 5 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:22.359 The Louisville Football Pregame Show is presented by Pillow, Windows 6 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:25.519 and Doors of Central Kentucky and Jefferson Animal Hospital. And 7 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:28.399 then whatever happens, which I don't know what the hell's 8 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:30.160 gonna happen, but we'll react to it. That's what I 9 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:32.320 do know. We'll do that on the Louisville Football postgame Show, 10 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:35.520 presented by Alex R. White, Alex R. Whitelawyer's so Distracted 11 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.359 driver dot com. All right, let's bring him in, mister 12 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:43.520 Kent Spencer from Whas eleven joins us here, Kent. I think, 13 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:47.799 regardless of how you watched the Louisville Stanford game, whether 14 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:50.640 you're a Stanford fan, a Louisville fan, a casual observer, 15 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:54.439 there's no way if anybody was watching the last ten 16 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:56.920 minutes they really felt like Louisville was gonna lose that way. 17 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:59.159 But they did just kind of walk me through your 18 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.600 reaction of kind of seeing uh an implosion that really, 19 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:04.560 I mean, it takes a skill, I think to be 20 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:05.760 able to lose in that way. 21 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.280 Well, I want to I want to tell you the 22 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:12.920 story of how it all went down for me. Okay, 23 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:18.480 So Saturday night, I start watching the game at the house, 24 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:21.719 but my wife and daughters are going to go to 25 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:22.519 a play that night. 26 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.239 So me and the seven year old boy, we got us. 27 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:28.680 We got ourselves a guys night and I got us, 28 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:32.760 I got us a day plan. So I think I 29 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:37.239 watched the first half at the house, and then at halftime, 30 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:40.959 we drive and we go to Gusses for dinner and 31 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:44.400 they've got the game on there, so we're watching. 32 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:47.560 We're watching the second half. We're while we're having dinner. 33 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:50.280 Then we leave and then I take my man to 34 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.400 main event. We're going to have ourselves a. 35 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:58.480 Night walk in. First thing we go, it's laser tag. 36 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:00.359 Let's let's let's get you in some late tag. 37 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:00.640 Buddy. 38 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:02.480 I don't think he's ever done it before, Like, let's 39 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:03.560 go play some laser tag. 40 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:08.439 And so we go into laser Tag. Louis's up seven. 41 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:12.080 They were up fourteen, now they're up seven. 42 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:13.520 A few minutes to go. 43 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:17.400 Whatever I go into laser Tag, we come out of 44 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:23.599 laser Tag. Stamford is celebrating on the field after the 45 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:28.120 walk off field goal. You can imagine my shock in 46 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:31.520 all of this, what in the world happened? And then 47 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:33.879 obviously I watched the replay, but it was that quick. 48 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:37.000 It literally took a game of laser Tag to go 49 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.120 from up seven to a walk off field goal. 50 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:39.759 Yeah. 51 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:43.080 I mean, if you consider the timeline, I mean, I swear, 52 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:46.439 I mean, you would think, how in Okay, how did 53 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.199 what happened? What transpired where they could win the game 54 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:51.240 in this fashion with the last second field goal. And again, 55 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.039 you know, it makes sense if you watched it, but 56 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:54.680 it'd be hard for anybody to believe it until you 57 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:57.520 actually saw it with your own eyes. So uh, you know, 58 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:59.319 I thought Jeff Brown, as far as the things that 59 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:02.280 he said on on Monday at the press conference, you know, 60 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:04.439 it was pretty typical of what we get from him 61 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.360 each week. But you know, I felt like you could 62 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.879 just tell, I mean, that's probably a loss that might 63 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:12.319 be up there. Maybe it is the worst loss he's 64 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.000 probably ever experienced as a coach. I may none of 65 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:17.000 them are good, but again, I'm still days later and 66 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:20.319 disbelieve how that happened. It seemed as if the things 67 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:22.479 that have held this team back at times this year, 68 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:26.439 they all kind of reappeared in that second half and 69 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:27.439 worse than ever. 70 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:31.560 Yeah, And I mean, look, I think it truly comes 71 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:35.719 down to this. And I don't know what I've been 72 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:38.039 in these you know, I've been in moments before and 73 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.120 I've never lost my head like this. But how in 74 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:43.719 the world And it doesn't even seem like it was 75 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:45.879 it was a violent play or anything like that. 76 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.879 Like, how in the world do you tackle a kid 77 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:50.159 out of. 78 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:53.360 Bounds, hold his leg and you continue to hold the 79 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:56.000 leg and then you just get up and pushy, Like 80 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:59.919 what in the world makes you think that's a good idea? 81 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:01.759 How can that even I mean, even if you want 82 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:03.520 to do it, How could it happen to where you 83 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:06.639 can claim you're surprised when you get clearly a penalty 84 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:09.199 that's gonna put your team in tough in such a 85 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.199 tough spot. Like you know, they don't practice like you've played, 86 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:14.599 you played football, I'd never have you played in college? 87 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:18.279 How can what is the root of a team being undisciplined? 88 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:20.040 Because you know the coaches are out there coaching these 89 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:22.319 guys to make these kind of mistakes, and you know, 90 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:24.839 when they make those mistakes, they clearly emphasize you got 91 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.079 to clean it up. But like sometimes teams just can't 92 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.560 get right, and if there was one way to fix it, 93 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.279 snap your fingers, then you know, obviously coaches would do that. 94 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:35.360 But it's just I've never seen a team like Louisville 95 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:38.000 just at times. It's again, I think their mistakes, clearly 96 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:39.839 they make more than most, but they're not like the 97 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.079 most penalized team in the country. But you could argue 98 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.399 that some of the mistakes they make that that are undisciplined. 99 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.839 I think they come at the worst possible times. 100 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:52.639 Yeah, and I think Nick Saban said it best, and 101 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:54.480 he's probably not the only one who's ever said it. 102 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.600 You know, penalties like that are selfish penalties. Like when 103 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.720 you do something like that, like you just being selfish. 104 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.720 You're just thinking about yourself, like either I need to 105 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:05.639 prove a point to this guy or this or this, 106 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:08.360 Like you're not thinking about anything else. You're just thinking 107 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.519 about you, And that's a self that Those are selfish penalties, 108 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.879 and that's what we saw on Saturday night. Now, look, 109 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.839 I get you know, the it was terrible timing for 110 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:21.399 Quincy Riley to jump off sides, but he's at least 111 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:23.120 trying to make a you know, like in that movement, 112 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:23.959 you're trying to make a play. 113 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:24.920 You got to be smarter than that. 114 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:27.399 It's still something you can't do, but it's it's understandable 115 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:29.120 that it happened. I mean, it's a mistake, but yeah, 116 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:30.120 it happens. 117 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.199 But see, like the thing about it is is like 118 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:33.519 where they were and. 119 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.319 Extra five yards doesn't kill him. The extra fifteen is 120 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:39.600 the one that gave him a chance to even think about. 121 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:40.000 A field goal. 122 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:43.879 Yeah, like that's what it the scenario to where you 123 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.120 get there with them kicking that field goal. I mean again, 124 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.240 all right, we got one penalty, but that didn't moveing 125 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:50.120 up enough. Let's and again, I don't even to make 126 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:51.519 the joke that they were trying to do it, because 127 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.160 that's insane. But I'm telling you, man, if there was, 128 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:56.959 if there was a certain way to make it happen 129 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:58.720 the way it did at the end, I think Louisville 130 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:00.519 would have fought. I mean you could convince the Louisville 131 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.360 followed that script, you know to a te so ten 132 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:04.800 games in I youan know you are who you are. 133 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:06.560 I mean, I could I think Louisville could come out 134 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:08.720 and you know, play well enough to be Pittsburgh. I 135 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:10.639 could also see him coming out being in a tight 136 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:12.800 game because of mistakes and maybe they come up short. 137 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.560 I mean, it's tough to know what we're gonna get here, 138 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.560 but I mean, any any any guesses. I mean, I 139 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:20.279 guess I'll ask you to predict the future here because 140 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.720 I could see it being a lot of different results 141 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:24.399 on Saturday, and I have no clue which one it's 142 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:24.759 going to be. 143 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.639 I think sometimes I think, you know, as crazy as 144 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.839 this sounds, to be honest with you, Nick, like I 145 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:35.680 think whatever you're feeling that week, it feels like they 146 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:40.959 do the opposite that Saturday. Like nobody's really feeling good 147 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:44.000 about the outlook of the season at this point in 148 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:47.480 time and so and I think that was almost like 149 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:50.560 the same feeling with the Clemson game coming up a 150 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:52.879 couple of weeks ago, and they ended up playing really 151 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:56.040 well that week. You know, It's almost like the ebbs 152 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:58.600 and flows of a season. Like I think people were 153 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:00.560 feeling a lot better about, you know, going into that 154 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:04.439 SMU game that didn't go so well, even maybe the 155 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:06.120 you know, like the Miami game. 156 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:09.079 And by the way, those are two pretty good teams. 157 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.279 But uh, you know, like the Clemson game. 158 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:14.439 Like I said, and you know, I remember you asked 159 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:16.079 me on the show, how shocked would you be if 160 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.639 they won down in Death Valley? And I think I 161 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:20.480 said eight, just because it was at night. Nobody ever 162 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:23.040 really wins down there all this stuff, And I mean 163 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:25.480 like they handled it Clemson. 164 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:29.040 So yeah, probably beating more than a score indicates. 165 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:32.000 Yeah, we know, really good football is in that locker 166 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:35.160 room and it's it's on that sidelines, but you just 167 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:37.879 don't see it consistent enough. And that's a I think 168 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:41.639 that's a problem. And so I think that they could 169 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:45.000 play really really well these last two weeks, but you 170 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.040 just never know who's. 171 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:48.000 Going to show up on Saturday. 172 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:50.439 But I'll say this, I mean, you know, when you 173 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:55.040 have the playmakers that they have on offense, they've always 174 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:55.720 got a chance. 175 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:57.600 Yep, no doubt about it. 176 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:57.800 All. 177 00:07:57.839 --> 00:07:59.480 Right, let's switch heres here to Kentucky. They had their 178 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:02.439 Murray State game last week, obviously a big time win 179 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:04.759 for them. Now they head to Texas and obviously the 180 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:07.879 Governor's Cup just a week away, did can? I mean, 181 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.879 is it is it possible to know if Kentucky took 182 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:12.160 steps forward or backwards? I mean, I think those games, 183 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:13.879 even when they're played in week one or week two, 184 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:17.800 maybe week three, it's tough to know. But in week eleven, 185 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:19.519 it just feels a week ten. It just feels kind 186 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:22.000 of weird. And I'm sure there were plays where they 187 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.560 look great sometimes plays where they didn't look great, but 188 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:27.639 I think it's tough to know of in that game 189 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.000 against that kind of opponent, especially that time of the year. 190 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.039 Yeah, I think they just I think they're just kind 191 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.320 of on the same road as they were before the game. 192 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.360 You know, I watched, you know, some of that game 193 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:42.799 and and Brock Vandergriff, you know, through some really poor 194 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.879 deep balls that to guys that were wide open, one 195 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:48.799 that should have been picked was a touchdown, and one 196 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:49.879 that actually was picked. 197 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:52.519 And so yeah, that was pretty bad. You know, Yeah, 198 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:53.720 he made. 199 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:57.240 Some he made some some good throws, but you know, 200 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:00.320 it's a it's against a really really bad defense. I 201 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:02.919 don't think that you take too much away from that 202 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:06.480 game whatsoever. You know, they're just kind of going down 203 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:09.720 this this this road that they're they're traveling on where 204 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.840 I don't think anybody thinks even though mathematically they're still 205 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:15.679 in it. I don't think anybody thinks they're going to 206 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:20.240 get it done at Texas on Saturday and thinks that, 207 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:23.039 you know that their their bid to go to another 208 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:27.480 bowl game goes up in flames in that one. 209 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.720 Yeah, I mean, if you are, let me just ask 210 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:33.399 you to put yourself in Mark Shoes's position here, as 211 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:36.679 you've you've got a really, you know, a really small 212 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:39.639 percentage chance of getting to a bowl game. You kind of, 213 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:42.279 you know, the season's kind of a wash cutter bowlie. 214 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:44.799 You know, apparently he looked pretty good at times. I 215 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:48.240 mean stoops wanting to still go with brock Deeth, I mean, 216 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:49.960 would you do the same thing? And do you think 217 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:51.679 it's more so because he just thinks that they are 218 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:54.440 going to beat Texas. The the more experienced quarterback, even 219 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:56.159 though it's not about that much, gives you a better chance. 220 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.120 Because it wouldn't have shocked me to hear that they 221 00:09:58.159 --> 00:09:59.639 might they might have chose to go in a different 222 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:00.399 direction this week. 223 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:04.320 I would have been I honestly would have been shocked. 224 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:10.960 And here's the here's the two reasons why is cutter bowllie. 225 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.440 I I don't know what the future holds for him 226 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:15.320 as far as like, I don't know how good he's 227 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:18.240 gonna be. I mean, he showed definitely, he shows flashes 228 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.600 and he throws a really good ball in the second 229 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.440 half against against that Murray State team. But I don't 230 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.480 know if i'd give him his first start on the 231 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:30.759 road and a yeah in All Texas against the third 232 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:32.360 ranked team in the country, who right. 233 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:33.919 Has a real has a whole lot to play for 234 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:34.519 in this game. 235 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:38.240 Yeah, And then by the way, the following week, I 236 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:40.600 don't know if I give him a start in the 237 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:44.399 rivalry game against Louisville when you're trying to keep the governor's. 238 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.120 Cut and he's from you know, he could be emotionally 239 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:47.879 charged in that one. You know, I made a fool 240 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:50.279 of myself because I just because of all these transfers 241 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.480 typically are guys that have been on their sixth or 242 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:55.240 seventh tier. I'm just assuming Vandergrift's gone after this year, 243 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:57.080 and he might be, but like he's young, this is 244 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:59.679 his first time starting, so yeah, that makesh make a 245 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:01.360 little more since why they wouldn't make a change. I 246 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:02.679 didn't even mean it to where they were going to 247 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:05.399 be benching Vandr Griffin just moving on from him. But you know, 248 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:07.799 maybe give somebody else a shot who you know could 249 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:10.639 potentially spark the offense. But to your point, putting him 250 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:13.000 in those two games back to back would be would 251 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:13.639 be a tough ask. 252 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:18.279 Yeah, And honestly, in those moments, like, not only is 253 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:22.480 it really not fair to that kid, it's not fair 254 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.919 to a lot of you know, your older kids who 255 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.360 have a couple games left to go, Like, give those 256 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:30.559 give those guys the best chance you have to win, 257 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.200 because if you do open it up in the spring 258 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:36.000 and you have a true quarterback competition, and then you know, 259 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:38.639 you've got fall camp and then if it fully ends up, 260 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:41.799 you know, being the guy going into next year. I mean, 261 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:43.480 I haven't looked at their schedule right off hand, but 262 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:47.039 I'm sure they probably have a couple layups to start 263 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:47.759 the season with. 264 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:52.559 All right, let let's let's talk basketball when it comes 265 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:55.399 to Mark, actually gonna I'm gonna challenge Ken Spencer here, 266 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:59.120 are you ready for a challenge for Mark Pope? I'd 267 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:01.919 challenge you to tell me one thing that is not 268 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:05.759 gone really good or damn near perfect for him since 269 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:06.480 he got the job. 270 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:10.200 Uh, yeah, I can't. 271 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:11.559 It's a tough ask, isn't it. 272 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.559 I got well, I mean, and and you could even 273 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:20.039 like look at look at like recruiting. He they've done 274 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:23.279 really well on the recruiting trail as far as high 275 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:24.960 school high school kids. 276 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:29.600 It also like, how nice was it that you. 277 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:33.519 Had two kids ranked in the top twenty five from 278 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:36.399 basically grew up right down the street from where your 279 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:36.919 office is. 280 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:39.039 Yep, And then they did it? You know. 281 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.120 Then he then he put this team together and then 282 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.480 everything so far in the season, and also they look 283 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:47.480 so good, he says, almost like he says all the 284 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:51.639 right things almost all the time, like he handles everything. 285 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.159 Yeah, it's been it's been a heck of a start 286 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:57.440 for him. I mean, he's clearly gonna lose games this 287 00:12:57.559 --> 00:12:59.720 year and they're probably not going to win the national 288 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:01.679 chap and shipped. But you know, I got to say, 289 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:06.120 I think they have enough talent to you know, if 290 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.279 they play well, they could they could probably be just 291 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.320 about anybody. I mean, again, they're gonna have games where 292 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.399 they're underdogs and they're gonna lose games, but you know, 293 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:14.840 I kind of feel like so far, or they've had 294 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:16.759 one really big test and they look really good. I 295 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:18.279 don't even think they play. I mean we talked about 296 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:19.799 it last week. It wasn't like you felt like they 297 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.240 did something that they couldn't recreate again to knock off 298 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.960 this great duke team with Cooper Flag. So you know, 299 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:28.200 they're they're they're really good and I didn't expect them 300 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:30.480 to be bad. But when I watched them play, I mean, 301 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:32.759 not only do you feel like they have enough talent, 302 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:35.480 but I'm watching basketball and this isn't really a shot 303 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:37.159 at cow but it's just you know, it's the truth. 304 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.120 I mean, you felt like you could see a lot 305 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:41.600 of future talent or future NBA players on its teams. 306 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:43.159 But you watch them, you think, Okay, what are they doing? 307 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:45.440 What what's their strategy? This doesn't this is kind of 308 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:47.960 hard to watch. This is ugly basketball, and with Pope 309 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:49.679 it's the exact opposite. I mean, not only is it 310 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:51.759 is it proven to be successful to play that way 311 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:54.240 if you've got the pieces, but from a fan standpoint, 312 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.200 I mean, it's it's got to be the funnest team 313 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:57.279 they've watched in a long time. 314 00:13:58.039 --> 00:13:59.200 Well, and I. 315 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:01.399 Don't know if you saw the video that the that 316 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:04.519 Kentucky put out called the Journey that it was like 317 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:06.639 a it was a long video going into the duke game. 318 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.440 Yeah, where he predicted what Flag was going to do. Yeah, 319 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:09.879 that was. 320 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:12.600 And he did it and they got the turnover. 321 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.279 Like you know, I think you know for a lot 322 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:19.840 of Kentucky fans who had criticism of of Caliperry, like 323 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.720 there it is right there, like that's that's just that's 324 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.320 the visual proof of like what you may not have 325 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:27.600 known or what you think and all this other stuff. 326 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:29.600 You know, right there. 327 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:32.159 The one one of the pushbacks Nick that I would 328 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:34.240 have on on what people would say, and I would 329 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:35.840 lump about Kentucky. 330 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.240 And Louisville in this in this mix. 331 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.000 So I've heard a lot of people and they talk 332 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.440 about that they've talked about like the Kentucky duke game, 333 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:45.279 and they go down this path and they're like, well 334 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:47.840 they're older and I and I, like I. 335 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:50.080 Said, I'd love Louisville in into this as well. 336 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:53.000 They've got older guys who've been in the fight before, 337 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:57.000 they're they're much closer to their ceiling than some of 338 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:59.799 these young teams and and lay out like a duke 339 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:01.559 for example, or or whatever. 340 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:04.759 And I remember thinking, like. 341 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:07.360 Like I understood that, like last year when you had 342 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:10.480 a Purdue you know, at the beginning of the year, 343 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.960 or remember years ago, remember when Wisconsin had the they 344 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:16.080 had the back to back Final four teams, and they 345 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:18.720 ran it back the next year, and it was pretty 346 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:23.120 much everybody like I get that with those teams. But 347 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:27.000 when you've constructed and you've got a completely new staff 348 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:32.399 and you've got a completely new roster, Yes, they're older players, 349 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:35.879 but these guys have never played in the systems in 350 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.480 which they're playing in right now, and they've never. 351 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:43.039 Played together before. So to say that like Kentucky. 352 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:46.559 And Louisville are near their ceilings, I think it's I 353 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:49.759 think that's pretty lazy in my opinion that I think 354 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:53.559 both of these teams still have a long way to 355 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:57.320 go to figure everything out and and get it going. Yeah, 356 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.799 they're they're older, and their bodies more you know, mature 357 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:02.360 and stuff like that, but there's a I think for 358 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:04.559 both schools, like in both teams, like, I think there's 359 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:06.039 a lot more lesson to take there. 360 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:09.480 Yeah, and the Tennessee game was you know, tough to 361 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:12.360 see for for Louisville, fans, and certainly was a rough 362 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:15.720 game for coach Kelsey in his second career game here 363 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.320 at Louisville. But you know that that's when it really 364 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.600 hit me. You know what, this isn't good, but it 365 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:22.559 makes total sense. There was no scenario where they could 366 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:24.960 replicate what they were going to see, not only from 367 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:28.200 what Tennessee does defensively, but just like you know, in 368 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.519 that moment, and you learn a lot about each other 369 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:33.879 when you experience a variety of things like adversity, like 370 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.440 you know, having to really you know, be tested and challenged, 371 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.919 and there was really no way to Like again, Kentucky, 372 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:40.840 they passed their test, but that was the first time 373 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:44.159 those guys had ever really been challenged in any way. 374 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:46.879 So yeah, that's a good point because you're right, I 375 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:49.240 think you hear what Hey, these guys, you know, they're 376 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:51.399 all veterans. They shouldn't have to be taught anything. But 377 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:53.799 it's it's not about teaching them something. It's about gelling 378 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:56.440 and developing chemistry and coaches. It's I mean, I think 379 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:58.559 that's one thing Pat Kelsey would probably tell you is 380 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:00.440 that he knows what he wants to do from a 381 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:04.039 stylistic standpoint, but he's still learning who all works together 382 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:07.279 against different looks because again, you know know until you 383 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:09.720 get out there and you play different teams. So with that, 384 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:12.119 I guess I'll leave this as my last question. Who 385 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:14.039 do you think, from what you've seen, would be the 386 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:16.039 best lineup for Pat Kelsey? Which is I think a 387 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:17.440 tough ask because I think there's a lot of guys 388 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:19.519 that you feel like are kind of the same level player. 389 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.440 But if you had to put five guys on the 390 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:23.599 floor for Pat Kelsea right now, get you know, with 391 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:25.559 everybody healthy, I know two guys aren't. Who would who? 392 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.599 Who do you think would give Louisville the best chance 393 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:31.160 to beat a really good team? 394 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:33.799 So we're gonna make sure And then you know, there's 395 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:35.880 so many guys, so I'm going to make sure that 396 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:37.720 I'm going to go slow on this one. 397 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:40.759 You got a commercial break probably. 398 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:47.119 Coming up, but definitely definitely Chucky Yepburn, Definitely Terrence Edwards Jr. 399 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:55.480 I would put definitely James Scott in the game. 400 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:00.880 Would you bring Prior off the bench like like Kelsey's. 401 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.480