Speaker 1: Tape deck Media see the.
Speaker 2: Welcome to see what the Patti Richta, Maaron Frescus, and
Speaker 2: with me as always are Joseph Beck Castro and Chris Chapman.
Speaker 2: And today we're gonna be finishing up the summary for
Speaker 2: Arnold's nineteen seventy six Forgets Your Piece. That's like masterpiece
Speaker 2: and forgettable mixed together. I guess it's not really masterpiece though,
Speaker 2: so for I got nothing. Seriously, there's there just gotta
Speaker 2: be a name like for like the seventies movies gritty.
Speaker 2: It's not gritty though poorly aged, I'm not sure anyway.
Speaker 3: Stay Hungry is the name of this film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So we're gonna finish up the summary. We're
Speaker 2: also gonna do all the other fun stuff that we
Speaker 2: do afterwards before we throw the film to the spreaditor.
Speaker 2: But before we do any of that, we first one
Speaker 2: hundred sent own apology to the great Gene Hackman, who
Speaker 2: sadly passed away today literally today. Yeah, and for some reason,
Speaker 2: this is your first episode you listened to and you
Speaker 2: have no idea what we're talking about. Well, we recorded
Speaker 2: the first part of the summary is at least about
Speaker 2: a month ago.
Speaker 4: At the entire summary was recorded, yeah a while ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like mid January, I take forever to get
Speaker 2: everything done, and I was like, okay, cool, whatever.
Speaker 3: So I finally get.
Speaker 2: It, Like if you only get everything edited, and we
Speaker 2: post the episode and we have this like running like
Speaker 2: it's not even a sort of a running joke.
Speaker 4: You know, in my opinion, it was like sort of
Speaker 4: a good natured yeah. Really, you know, it was like,
Speaker 4: we made some comments about Gene Hackman's appearance during the episode.
Speaker 2: But we're in disparaging.
Speaker 4: Yes, we focused a little bit on his more tuber
Speaker 4: like qualities, but uh, you know, no disrespect was meant.
Speaker 3: No, none at all.
Speaker 2: I loved you. I love Yeah, He's I always movies exactly,
Speaker 2: Like what's your favorite genackmy movie Get Shorty? Really?
Speaker 4: I like Superman is good? Have you seen Get Shorty recently?
Speaker 4: I have really funny.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the second one, but I've seen the
Speaker 2: first one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be cool. It's not as good, Okay, it's yeah.
Speaker 4: Who was he in Get Shorty? He's the he's the
Speaker 4: slimy movie producer gets his shit kicked in by the
Speaker 4: end of the movie. He's really funny.
Speaker 2: Okay, I really like him. In Heartbreakers.
Speaker 4: I haven't it's been so long since I've seen Heartbreakers.
Speaker 4: Obviously I love him.
Speaker 3: As it's probably the same character too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just like it's just total.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like just does it very well. And then Royal
Speaker 2: Tannem Bombs is awesome too.
Speaker 4: The Replacements, The replacement. I mean, I'm sure everybody else
Speaker 4: thinks Hoosiers, but I'm like, the Replacements. That's you got
Speaker 4: to set that up better.
Speaker 2: You know that one sports movie that he's really good in.
Speaker 3: The Replacements.
Speaker 4: Enemy of the Estate, that's another good one.
Speaker 2: Okay, So basically what the joke, the whole thing was.
Speaker 4: Well, we were talking about how the beauty standards of
Speaker 4: the seventies.
Speaker 2: Were not even the beauty standards. It was the action
Speaker 2: hero changed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like what the action here
Speaker 2: to look like basically changed from the seventies to the
Speaker 2: eighties because in the seventies you had Clint Eastwood and
Speaker 2: Charles Bronson. Exactly when we did the Pumping Iron episode
Speaker 2: that's never going to get released, we were talking about
Speaker 2: that and we said that Gene Hackman.
Speaker 3: Looks like basically he looks like a potato with a
Speaker 3: hat on.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: In the French Connection.
Speaker 3: But the whole thing that's funny to me.
Speaker 2: Is just a potato wearing a hat.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. That's what's that's what's funny to me.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That is the basic conceit of mister potato head. It's
Speaker 4: not like you're the first person to get there. It's
Speaker 4: funny potato.
Speaker 2: Pissed off, like like French connection. Yeah exactly, which I
Speaker 2: guess is just mister potato head and toy story.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Gene Hackman, I play that.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so that was unintentional.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we love Gene Hackman. It was bad timing, Yeah,
Speaker 4: just by pure coincidence. It was really poor timing to
Speaker 4: release this episode. But again, no disrespect man, no none
Speaker 4: at all of Gene Hackman. Just wanted to say, like,
Speaker 4: you know, we're not being dickbags on purpose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Okay, So anyway, yeah, so we just wanted
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 4: That, sorry, genuinely sorry.
Speaker 2: Very stupid jokes. Yes, speaking of stupid jokes, how about
Speaker 2: we get this episode going and finish off the rest
Speaker 2: of this gos darn summary.
Speaker 4: Huh sounds good.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 2: We also sometimes play a clip of a line from
Speaker 2: the movie to segue into the episode. But since I
Speaker 2: can't think of a single memorable line off the top
Speaker 2: of my head, how about we just do one from
Speaker 2: Gene Hackman's scene in Young Frankenstein Is Dead. Huh yeah what.
Speaker 4: Wait, where are you going?
Speaker 1: I was gonna make a spresso?
Speaker 4: Okay. So back at the gym, Mary Tate shows up
Speaker 4: to collect her things. As Thor wakes up from his bender,
Speaker 4: he goes into his office and does some cocaine. I think, no, no, okay,
Speaker 4: what is that?
Speaker 2: Okay? So, according to Bob Rafelson in an interview with
Speaker 2: Senses of Cinnamon dot com, the actor who plays Thor,
Speaker 2: uh whose name is Rgie Armstrong, was actually doing They're
Speaker 2: called poppers. There's an actual names the poppers. They're called poppers,
Speaker 2: but that's what he's sniffing. So it's it's actually called
Speaker 2: amiel nitrite.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: So do you guys have haven't heard of that before?
Speaker 2: Because I've never heard.
Speaker 4: I have heard of poppers, and all the contexts that
Speaker 4: I've ever gotten about it is that they are popular
Speaker 4: among the homosexual community. Okay, that's That's the only thing
Speaker 4: ever heard about.
Speaker 1: It happening at a gym in the seventies.
Speaker 2: Soon allegedly throw that in there because anyway, So, okay,
Speaker 2: this was Wikipedia, and it says, quote, it was used
Speaker 2: recreationally as an inhalent drug that induces a brief euphoric state,
Speaker 2: and when combined with other intoxicant stimulate drugs such as
Speaker 2: cocaine or MDMA, which.
Speaker 1: Is Mollie right, yeah, pretty much ecstasy.
Speaker 3: Is it different than ecstasy?
Speaker 1: They're all kind of in the same, right.
Speaker 2: Okay, you forced. It intensifies and is prolonged once some
Speaker 2: stimulative drugs wear off. A common side effect is appeared
Speaker 2: to depression and anxiety collinoqually, collilically called a come down,
Speaker 2: colloquially yeah, yeah, whatever. Anyways, amyl nitrite is sometimes used
Speaker 2: to combat these negative after effects. Huh huh, I did
Speaker 2: not read this far ahead. This effect, combined with its
Speaker 2: disassociative effects, has led to it being used as a
Speaker 2: recreational drug.
Speaker 1: Hummm, I thought it was smelling salts. That's what I
Speaker 1: was thinking.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought it was too. And then I
Speaker 2: read the interview where he okay, so, Bob Rafelson in
Speaker 2: an interview said that he was doing these things. He
Speaker 2: actually was doing those poppers. Damn yes, he was sniffing
Speaker 2: and which I'm sure was like super fum for Sally
Speaker 2: filled out to deal with.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so great job on maintaining that safe set there,
Speaker 2: Bob Ravelson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's anyway.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so it's like which again, like it's ephours.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm sure he was drinking at the same time,
Speaker 2: but it seems like it's like something to calm me
Speaker 2: down though, because Joe, like, how does I'm sorry, I
Speaker 2: didn't mean to throw to you like you're the drug expert,
Speaker 2: but I think you were just about to say something
Speaker 2: like MDMA. It makes you feel like like the next.
Speaker 1: Day, like yeah, well, basically what it does is it
Speaker 1: takes like all your serotonin that she's like you're happy, horrible, horron,
Speaker 1: thank you, and just like dumps it so you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel great, like everything is awesome, and then you know,
Speaker 1: usually it'll take a little bit to you know, get
Speaker 1: back going. That's so I should only do it like
Speaker 1: once every six months at the most. And this also
Speaker 1: thing called suicide Tuesday, which is usually like Tuesdays like
Speaker 1: the day you feel really bad. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: I want to kill themselves, but like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just like you take it over the weekend
Speaker 4: and so then by the time Tuesday rolls around, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you feel like horrible.
Speaker 1: Like fucking I need some serotonin. So there's actually, uh,
Speaker 1: it's like Omega five or some shit, some like over
Speaker 1: the counter stuff that you can take that's supposed to
Speaker 1: boost your serotonin allegedly, but it's or not over the
Speaker 1: counter but like herbal whatever, you know, all that bullshit.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's basically what else would so MDMA like
Speaker 1: when you want to do it in the dance stuff
Speaker 1: like it can be an upper because one of the
Speaker 1: m's is like basically meth, but you can get it.
Speaker 1: I always forget the difference between a MDMA, molly uh
Speaker 1: ecstasy and sas one of them or some of them
Speaker 1: don't have like the the meth part. So if you
Speaker 1: take it like the stuff, and you take it and
Speaker 1: you go to a club and you dance all night
Speaker 1: because you're all hyped up and you serotonin's going, some
Speaker 1: of the other ones you're just like, well, I want
Speaker 1: to hang out and cuttle and laugh and talk stuff. Allegedly.
Speaker 2: By the way, the actual reason or the actual use
Speaker 2: for this is for people with heart problems. So yes,
Speaker 2: that's the uh, there's one, two, three, there's four uses
Speaker 2: that are listed on Wikipedia.
Speaker 3: That's number four.
Speaker 2: That's the last one because the first one is.
Speaker 4: What does it like funk with your blood pressure? Like
Speaker 4: what do you mean heart?
Speaker 2: So yes, it says uh am amelin nitrate and historically
Speaker 2: uh employed medically to treat heart diseases as well as angina,
Speaker 2: which just makes me laugh every time, Like my angina.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's a very serious thing and
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but the word angina, I'm like, we are
Speaker 2: you really gonna name it angina? It sounds like vagina,
Speaker 2: my angina, And then they reach.
Speaker 3: For their heart, and like why they reaching for their heart?
Speaker 2: I want to every now and then I think of
Speaker 2: like sitcom jokes that are really bad dru I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's always for stupid characters to where it's like someone's like,
Speaker 2: oh my aunt Jennet and then he grabs like his
Speaker 2: like dick like he's like, oh, like that's not what angina,
Speaker 2: or like a girl, a girl like that's not why
Speaker 2: an Ngiina is like, oh my aunt Johina's acting up
Speaker 2: and then she like grabs her like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like it's it's a hard thing anyway. It's also was
Speaker 2: used as an intido for cyanide poisoning apparently. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and then it says that Popper's which is weird because
Speaker 2: I feel like he wouldn't have the effect that it
Speaker 2: does in this movie because he gets fucking crazy. And
Speaker 2: it's like, I guess if it's like something that brings
Speaker 2: you back. Actually that makes sense, if it's something that
Speaker 2: brings you back up from when you're feeling like shit.
Speaker 2: But I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's hard to say. He takes the stuff and then
Speaker 4: this is how I imagine a fucking like this is
Speaker 4: what I imagined PCP does to you. Yeah, he gets
Speaker 4: all weird and aggressive and like, I don't know, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Joe, not no PCP yet, No, okay, I was waiting
Speaker 2: for like next year. Actually actually does not do that
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: See, the thing is, I don't know. It's one of
Speaker 1: those drugs they would ever touch. I mean, just like
Speaker 1: all drugs. Yeah, I'll stick with my beer.
Speaker 2: Speaking of drugs, the any situations where you'll be like, well,
Speaker 2: PCPs or heroin is like like okay, like is it
Speaker 2: like a dying thing to where you like like like
Speaker 2: a little of sunshine sort of like thing to where
Speaker 2: it's like you're Allen Arcis.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 4: Heroin seems like one of those things, uh like if.
Speaker 1: The world was ending or I'm dying or something, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I'm not gonna lie. They seem like
Speaker 1: fucking fun. They just life.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to fucking stort a bunch of meth and
Speaker 1: stay at for three days and fucking draw shit. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It sounds cool, but then I have like
Speaker 1: the rest of my fucking life and.
Speaker 2: What if it's like super awesome? So yes, like that's
Speaker 2: why I try to do. Like besides like the pills
Speaker 2: that I do take, I don't touch anything chemical because
Speaker 2: my I have a very addictive personality, So it's like
Speaker 2: nothing chemical whatsoever, because I don't want to have to
Speaker 2: be like end up turning into like a requin for
Speaker 2: a dream situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, And we all know the situation he's
Speaker 5: talking about.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's not like I'm doing that now,
Speaker 2: but that was like, no, no, I want to stop
Speaker 2: the ass. That's why it'll it'll stop me from the
Speaker 2: Heroin's what gets me. You get too high to do
Speaker 2: ass ass and you're like, oh, no, I ain't doing
Speaker 2: that anymore, Like I.
Speaker 4: Gotta go all the way to the warehouse downtown.
Speaker 2: So when that movie, like, why is he shooting up
Speaker 2: into the same spot every single time?
Speaker 3: That's that's what I don't get. Like I think I
Speaker 3: mentioned this the first time.
Speaker 2: I have weird like remember weird stuff, but like the
Speaker 2: much I was with at Joe's fucking parents.
Speaker 1: House watch parents house.
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember watching.
Speaker 2: At your parents house, Like, why is he shooting in
Speaker 2: the same fucking spot. I'm pretty sure that was one
Speaker 2: of our friends. Was was like the one that showed
Speaker 2: it to us?
Speaker 3: Who actually did it?
Speaker 1: Was that him? I don't know. I just I just
Speaker 1: remember seeing it once and I'm like.
Speaker 2: That was at your parents' house. Yeah yeah, I was like,
Speaker 2: why why is he shooting it into the same spot
Speaker 2: every single time?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was kind of a dumb ass move on
Speaker 1: his part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got how many different toes come on? Get
Speaker 2: it in between those toes? Maybe that's what they did
Speaker 2: before the internet.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, No, because there was some movie
Speaker 1: with Joshua Jackson where he was shooting out in between
Speaker 1: his toes. Was it cruel intentions. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Joshua Jackson wasn't in Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he plays the gay character and cruel intentions.
Speaker 2: But uh that drug is that drugs?
Speaker 4: Anyway?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 4: Okay, So he does some poppers before heading downstairs and
Speaker 4: sexually assault taking Mary Tate. Back at the competition, Bridges
Speaker 4: is whining at Arnold about how bad he feels until
Speaker 4: Arnold can't take it anymore and tells him off before
Speaker 4: going on stage.
Speaker 2: Okay, so wait what turned him?
Speaker 1: What turned to Jeff Bridges?
Speaker 4: What turned him?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like why is he? Like I think, okay, that's twenty
Speaker 2: minutes before the movie. He's a dictor because she infronts him.
Speaker 2: She was like, you didn't want anything to do with
Speaker 2: me at the party, and he's like lying, like he's
Speaker 2: lying to worries like I was, Uh no, I was
Speaker 2: trying to introduce you to people or doing whatever, Like
Speaker 2: he's fucking lied to.
Speaker 4: I mean first he tries to gas light at first,
Speaker 4: he's like, ah, that was your first party, You'll get
Speaker 4: used to those, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he tells her he's like, I wasn't
Speaker 2: doing that. I was, I was, I was proud of
Speaker 2: you or what.
Speaker 4: Was the lamest fucking excuse he was like, I was
Speaker 4: just trying to show him who you are. You're so
Speaker 4: real baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like that's ship. But then he goes and
Speaker 2: apologizes to uh what's his name? Like I was just
Speaker 2: curious what turned him like his billy master.
Speaker 4: He really apologized to Arnold like he's about too when they.
Speaker 2: Get interrupted, you know what I mean, I wonder if
Speaker 2: he was thankful for they's like, oh, thank god?
Speaker 4: Who exactly apologize? So uh, Arnold goes on stage after
Speaker 4: kind of telling him off. Franklin tells Bridges that Mary
Speaker 4: Tate was planning to go to the gym, so Bridges
Speaker 4: heads there and one of the secret Language brothers follows
Speaker 4: him to make sure Thor isn't fleeing with all the money.
Speaker 4: Bridges shows up to the gym and finds a very
Speaker 4: shaken Mary Tate. Realizing what happened, he sends Mary to
Speaker 4: find Arnold as Thor starts throwing all sorts of weight
Speaker 4: and jim equipment at him. They have Oh sorry, go ahead, she.
Speaker 2: I thought he just sent her out of the gym.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, he says, go find Joe, Go find Joe.
Speaker 2: Oh, because the whole reason that that that uh that
Speaker 2: Joe ran there was because he heard there was a yeah.
Speaker 4: Like the script is bad, yes, okay, but no he
Speaker 4: as like as Thor starts throwing the weights, he her
Speaker 4: to leave and he says, go find Joe, Go find Joe.
Speaker 4: So they have a pretty like I don't know, in
Speaker 4: my opinion, they have a pretty exciting and realistic fight
Speaker 4: throughout the gyms. That is pretty much like the highlight
Speaker 4: of this movie for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first time I watched this, it was very tense.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's like a well choreographed and well thought
Speaker 4: out fight.
Speaker 2: Yes, which that same sense of cinema dot Com interview
Speaker 2: praises Bob Raefelson about that, and he actually says that
Speaker 2: they mostly use real weights during that scene Jesus using
Speaker 2: an example with it dropping on the stairs in front
Speaker 2: Jeff Bridges and the stairs breaking, which I'm like, hardly, well,
Speaker 2: are you trying to kill it? I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: just a very I.
Speaker 4: Mean, he was on poppers man, what do you want
Speaker 4: from him?
Speaker 2: Which it's like, if that's true, it's just like, dude,
Speaker 2: set safety.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what the fuck? Although that that move that Jeff
Speaker 4: Bridges pulls when he throws the weight down the stairs
Speaker 4: at him, not not the Olympic weight, but like the
Speaker 4: bar bell at him, and he like jumps up into
Speaker 4: the hall. Yeah yeah, yeah, like a fucking spider monkey.
Speaker 4: That was pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: But like the the fucking uh the weight that they
Speaker 2: he drops.
Speaker 4: Right before he's walking big like fifty pound Olympic weight
Speaker 4: that he throws down at him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: At one point, the brother like comes to the gym
Speaker 4: and sees them fighting and then runs back to the competition.
Speaker 4: Back at the competition, we see a pose off between
Speaker 4: Arnold and uh.
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 4: I just have some blonde Ken Waller?
Speaker 2: Ken Waller, Yeah, so I post on his name in
Speaker 2: the movie, but that's his real name.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. We see a pose off between Arnold and ken Waller,
Speaker 4: which Arnold wins pretty decisively according to the crowd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he like, sorry, it's just an Arnold body comment,
Speaker 2: but like the definition is.
Speaker 3: Just so much better with.
Speaker 2: Yeah Ken Waller, which I'm I'm assuming it's just why.
Speaker 4: He won everything, yeah, like all the time. Yeah, Like
Speaker 4: you really see it the moment before they call him
Speaker 4: on stage when he's doing the barbell thing, and uh
Speaker 4: he when he's doing the barbells, I was just like, oh,
Speaker 4: he looks different from every other body builder in this movie. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's see. So as Arnold comes off the stage, the
Speaker 4: weirdo with the secret language comes back and tells his
Speaker 4: brother about the fight at the gym. So Arnold and
Speaker 4: all the bodybuilders go running through the streets to get
Speaker 4: to the gym. And so suddenly this movie decides that
Speaker 4: it wants to be a mad cap comedy, not even
Speaker 4: ten minutes after showing us a terrifying and like very
Speaker 4: uncomfortable assault, which it still hasn't resolved, by the way.
Speaker 4: So anyway, the bodybuilders are all trying to figure out
Speaker 4: where Arnold went, but are being mobbed by people on
Speaker 4: the street who want to see them do poses. So
Speaker 4: they say fuck it and start posing in the middle
Speaker 4: of the street, literally stopping traffic as we get like
Speaker 4: almost like Benny Hill music in the back.
Speaker 2: Like American Benny Hill music, yeah, Southern Benny Hill music.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's even a bunch of them posing on top of
Speaker 1: a bus that's going back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They start climbing on cars and there's so did they
Speaker 2: think that Joe Santos tole the money because I.
Speaker 4: Know, I think they were following Joe because well they
Speaker 4: were like, okay, you know what I mean. Those guys
Speaker 4: don't know where the gym is. The registration wasn't at
Speaker 4: the gym. Nothing was at the gym.
Speaker 2: So far, all right, Okay, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: So back at the gym, the fight is over. Arnold
Speaker 4: is trying to comfort Mary Tate as Bridges and Thor
Speaker 4: are taken to the hospital. We cut to some time
Speaker 4: later as the League of Evil realtors catch us up
Speaker 4: on what happened after the fight. Thor agreed to sell
Speaker 4: the gym to Bridges in exchange for Mary Tate dropping
Speaker 4: the rape charges, which I only realized I only really
Speaker 4: paid attention to on the second watch. And wow, that's
Speaker 4: fucked up, Like that's yes, fucking monstrous. Yes, And now
Speaker 4: that Bridges owns the gym, he decided not to sell
Speaker 4: it to the realtors but to run the gym with Arnold.
Speaker 4: We get a little more duration, first from the civil
Speaker 4: or uncle, who is now proud of his nephew. Then
Speaker 4: we get bridges narration, in which he tells his uncle
Speaker 4: that he sold the mansion and gave the butler all
Speaker 4: the best stuff to start his own thrift shop. Bridges
Speaker 4: and Mary Tate are back together, and I guess that passes.
Speaker 1: For an ending.
Speaker 2: So wait, when does he make his way to the
Speaker 2: Shining Hotel?
Speaker 4: Shortly after he opens the thrift shop. It doesn't do well,
Speaker 4: so he has to move to Colorado or wherever the fuck.
Speaker 4: The overlook is, yeah, become a chef because take care
Speaker 4: as of training. Well, I get shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's already had the shinings.
Speaker 3: Why didn't he fuck with it?
Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't want to use it.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not like like Jedi mind trick, Like you
Speaker 1: can't convince people to do stuff. You just kind of
Speaker 1: understand stuff.
Speaker 2: So that is that why he knew that. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was pretty obviously tip.
Speaker 1: But yeah, seems like a scene to your mind.
Speaker 4: Well, now that's how we knew what Jeff Bridges' grandma
Speaker 4: would think of what Jeff Bridges.
Speaker 2: Was he was communing with Okay, is it?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 2: Can he do that?
Speaker 1: Uh? You talk to ghosts? So that's part of the
Speaker 1: shiny Okay, I mean that's kind of like the entire
Speaker 1: kind of point. And then doctor Sleep Danny talks to
Speaker 1: oh yeah to Thecatman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be great. He's like, would you stop
Speaker 4: calling me that? Okay, so we're at the end of
Speaker 4: the movie and now we get to the only fucking
Speaker 4: reason that I bothered to finish this movie, which is
Speaker 4: Joe Namath.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to do something extremely fun. We're going
Speaker 1: to play a wonderful game called who is My Daddy?
Speaker 3: And what does she do?
Speaker 1: Yes, well, be ready because I have a long list.
Speaker 4: Alright.
Speaker 1: First off, I got somebody named Maith Nutter, m A
Speaker 1: y F. Nutter, and that has been this episode's version
Speaker 1: of Joe Namath. That was pretty much it.
Speaker 6: Uh you know what, Yeah, yeah, I do find it
Speaker 6: though that uh, this movie does have like a lot
Speaker 6: of stars that are in people that are still relevant
Speaker 6: or well known.
Speaker 1: I mean you have Arnold, Jeff Bridges, Scatman, Crothers, at
Speaker 1: Bagley Junior, Robert Englyn, Sally Fields. Like that's like if
Speaker 1: you look at most movies in the seventies, like You're
Speaker 1: lucky and you guys know like eighteen other random white
Speaker 1: actors in this movie too.
Speaker 2: So yeah there. I mean it helps that the director
Speaker 2: was super uh like that's a director you wanted to
Speaker 2: work with, but like Bobert, you want to work Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so like everyone wanted to be in the movie. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it was like definitely makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Tina oneion to your belt. It was a
Speaker 1: style heah, okay, yeah, okay, real quick, before we get
Speaker 1: to all the other stuff.
Speaker 2: I have a couple of things I left out of
Speaker 2: the production episode because I wanted to save them for
Speaker 2: when we finished the summary, got it. So yeah, this
Speaker 2: all comes from one of the interviews we discussed during
Speaker 2: the production episode, specifically the nineteen seventy six interview director
Speaker 2: Bob Rayfielson did for the British Film Institute. And we're
Speaker 2: going to start with a quote from Rafelson with him
Speaker 2: discussing Charles Gaines adapting his own novel and the reason
Speaker 2: behind some of the changes to the source material. And
Speaker 2: he says, quote but rather than being redundant and trying
Speaker 2: to capture the energies he had put into the novel,
Speaker 2: Gaines might be able to bring new life into a
Speaker 2: new creative experience based on the same basic body of material.
Speaker 2: If you can break the logic of the original piece
Speaker 2: of thinking and open it some, the quality of writing
Speaker 2: becomes more energized. Otherwise you're merely trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2: How can I translate the novel experience into the film
Speaker 2: experience at any rate? I did not relent in my
Speaker 2: feelings about wanting to make a more optimistic film and
Speaker 2: express that aspect of myself.
Speaker 4: So I'm sorry. So he's saying he wanted a more
Speaker 4: positive like he wanted the movie to.
Speaker 2: Yes, apparently the which we didn't. Apparently the book ended
Speaker 2: on a fucking downer. I think someone died at the end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought that's what he liked about the book.
Speaker 4: That's what we talked about.
Speaker 2: Is that he liked that. That's what That's what's weird
Speaker 2: is because he's he says that, But then like, the
Speaker 2: whole reason that he did that like this movie is
Speaker 2: because he wanted something more positive. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's like, I like, I like the fact that you
Speaker 2: think like me, But I'm changing the end of your book. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's all I got from that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: He also mentions why the gym owner ends up fighting
Speaker 2: with Jeff Bridges instead of the developers. Yeah, so, uh,
Speaker 2: he says, quote, I suppose that in more conventional narrative, structures.
Speaker 2: The enemy in the film would have been the cartel members,
Speaker 2: and the fight would have taken place openly between them
Speaker 2: and the hero, Craig Blake. Instead, they simply subvert the
Speaker 2: gym owner, and the big confrontation comes between those two.
Speaker 2: I don't do this kind of thing intentionally. It's more
Speaker 2: that I find the intentions of simple, straightforward narrative so
Speaker 2: compellingly and embarrassingly predictable in most instances that I tend
Speaker 2: to search out other possibilities. I don't mind looking at
Speaker 2: movies that are made this way, but I find it
Speaker 2: very difficult myself to make movies where I know right
Speaker 2: from the beginning what the end is going to be.
Speaker 2: Unquo and again each like it's it's just this is
Speaker 2: why all this stuff right here is why, like just
Speaker 2: such a pretentious and like I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, no, he's an asshole. Again and again. Going
Speaker 4: back to the park earlier, we were talking about where
Speaker 4: he was in the production episode where he was talking
Speaker 4: they were kind of shitting on Jaws.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it.
Speaker 4: It is really fucking stupid to me because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I bet you in Jaws, the end of the movie
Speaker 4: is going to be they fight the shark, But that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Make it fucking less out that was exactly.
Speaker 4: Doesn't make it less exciting or what I was like that.
Speaker 2: By the way, Joe, during the filming of this, they
Speaker 2: all went out and watched Jaws because it was in
Speaker 2: the theater, and Bob Rafelson told it was him.
Speaker 4: And Robert England.
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even know if he was there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but wasn't Robert England one of the people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he told the story, so I don't know, Like,
Speaker 2: so it was it was the three main people and
Speaker 2: Bob Rafelson for sure, and then maybe Robert Elkin too.
Speaker 2: But Bob Rafelson told him this is this movie right
Speaker 2: here is going to be the end, Like this is
Speaker 2: going to end our type of movies. He was right, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: because that was like the big blockbuster, like summer blockbuster.
Speaker 2: And then you get like which I've read in a
Speaker 2: few places, where you get like, they don't blame it.
Speaker 2: They're they're kind of but not like it's what are
Speaker 2: they they're like saying.
Speaker 4: That the kind of blame like And again again we
Speaker 4: went over this part when we talked about it in
Speaker 4: the Protection episode. They're not like entirely wrong. He made
Speaker 4: the first blockbuster and that changed cinema, Like Summer Batch
Speaker 4: the way the movie. Yeah, the movie business works.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's just like them talk like this is when
Speaker 2: that great era ended.
Speaker 4: I'm like, also, if this is your example of your
Speaker 4: great era, fuck you. This fucking sucks.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of thoughts about this, and I
Speaker 1: was saving it for I pumped. Like, you know me,
Speaker 1: I'm a constant contrarian, so I'll play both sides and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that in the Uh cool, I pumped.
Speaker 2: Let me hear. Okay, so there's a reason for why
Speaker 2: the movie might seem kind of uh disjointed. I guess
Speaker 2: I think that's the word he uses. Okay, So anyway,
Speaker 2: so he also mentions in that same this this comes
Speaker 2: from the British Film Institute article that they did that
Speaker 2: like profile on him, But this also comes from the
Speaker 2: same article. He said that he shoots his films in
Speaker 2: order and usually doesn't know how the movie's going to
Speaker 2: end until the day before shooting the scene because quote,
Speaker 2: in the movies I've made so far, the greatest reward
Speaker 2: has been that they have yielded to me privileges of
Speaker 2: experimentation and exploration. I don't like to know what my
Speaker 2: movies are about. I don't like to know how they're
Speaker 2: going to end. It's a constant puzzlement and a challenge. Okay,
Speaker 2: before you say anything, Rafelson also unquote, but Rafelson also
Speaker 2: admits that this can be quote quite exasperating for my collaborators.
Speaker 4: The fucking audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly in the production department, who are constantly receiving
Speaker 2: new pages at the last moment, sometimes to be shot
Speaker 2: in locals thousands of miles away from where they are unquote. Which,
Speaker 2: first of all, like I've seen articles with longtime actors
Speaker 2: that are talking to people that like to improvise, you
Speaker 2: do it at least once the way that they want
Speaker 2: you to do it, because it's disrespectful to the screenwriter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the fact that you're just like, fuck it, I can
Speaker 2: I can make it better, So at least do it.
Speaker 2: They're a way once and this ship would be frustrating
Speaker 2: as fuck.
Speaker 1: As I was listening to the Conan podcast where Woody
Speaker 1: Harrison and Ted Danson were on, which probably came out
Speaker 1: a long as a time ago, but wood he was
Speaker 1: talking about him and Javier Burden and they were talking
Speaker 1: about that scene in No Country Old Men, No Country
Speaker 1: for Men, you know, cheers.
Speaker 5: Really really tense scene and cheers with Woody Harrelson and
Speaker 5: Bobby a fucking a toddler.
Speaker 2: The whole quarter scene.
Speaker 3: The quarter scene happened.
Speaker 1: But he was bouncing the quarter into the shop class
Speaker 1: because but yeah, yeah, I don't know, mister, I don't know,
Speaker 1: You're sorry, But yeah, they were. They were talking about
Speaker 1: that and like, uh, Javier and Woody I'll call him
Speaker 1: on their first names because her homies now basically we're
Speaker 1: all in the bizz. Uh. They were like they like
Speaker 1: reworked the scene. They like worked on it, like did
Speaker 1: conversations for like two days or whatever, and they go
Speaker 1: to like give it to the Cohen brothers like we're
Speaker 1: gonna think we're gonna do it like that, and like
Speaker 1: they do it how it's written and what. He's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: there they were right like like you know, you got
Speaker 1: to give credit to the guys whose job it is
Speaker 1: to fucking like rate and direct the ship.
Speaker 2: They wrote that too. What they Yeah, okay, we met
Speaker 2: the book.
Speaker 1: It's a Cormack McCarthy book. Who is who is?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: You? Helson in that he wasn't in it for very long,
Speaker 1: but he he was in Mexico and spoilers. If you
Speaker 1: haven't seen that movie, what the fuck are doing with
Speaker 1: your life? But spoilers.
Speaker 2: I saw recently. I was like, holy shoot, this movie
Speaker 2: is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in it for a little bit in Mexico.
Speaker 1: Then he tries to like talk down Javier Bardem and
Speaker 1: like he's like, he's like another he shoots him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like another hit man hired by what's his name,
Speaker 4: Stephen Root to find Javier Bardem and and like stop
Speaker 4: him from But.
Speaker 1: He's the first one to be like you don't have
Speaker 1: to do this, man, you know, and he tries to.
Speaker 1: He's like, let the coin decide or whatever.
Speaker 4: Okay, they have like a history.
Speaker 2: So they no, they wrote they like, uh, workshop this
Speaker 2: all thing. The Coin Brothers like, no, basically, yeah.
Speaker 4: The story tells on Conan is just like like Joe said,
Speaker 4: they spent like two days like offset like reworking the
Speaker 4: script and be like, oh, yeah, this is a great idea.
Speaker 3: This is a great idea.
Speaker 4: Let's improvise this and that. And then they took them
Speaker 4: to the Coen Brothers and they read through it and
Speaker 4: then they were just like I think we'll do it
Speaker 4: as really.
Speaker 2: Just like not even thinking about it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, even what Harrison's like, yeah you know they
Speaker 1: were right, Yeah, like we didn't I don't all overthinking.
Speaker 4: Yeah they were the Coen Brothers man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well to.
Speaker 2: Give a Bobby Refles some credit in this instance started
Speaker 2: to bring it back, but in this isn't instance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, started bringing back to the.
Speaker 4: Tope we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Charles Gaines was like do whatever, like whatever,
Speaker 2: like yeah, he just was, Yes, as long as as
Speaker 2: long as I get to work with you, man, it's
Speaker 2: in honor, do whatever you want to my script. So whatever,
Speaker 2: I guess. But then anyway, so he goes on to
Speaker 2: say in that same article that he kind of like
Speaker 2: fiells out the characters sure, saying that his approach means
Speaker 2: that the audience, which Chris was just saying, audiences find
Speaker 2: his movie is hard to follow and or like are
Speaker 2: disorienting or whatever, saying quote, I shoot in continuity, and
Speaker 2: I pay very close attention to what the characters in
Speaker 2: the movie are telling me. Rather than being myself this
Speaker 2: dictatorial force telling the characters how they should respond. I
Speaker 2: place a great deal of faith in the collaboration of
Speaker 2: the entire company and in the atmosphere in which I'm shooting.
Speaker 2: I try to remain susceptible to what the characters are
Speaker 2: telling me, what the weather is telling me, what the
Speaker 2: sounds are telling me. While I do in enormous amounts
Speaker 2: of preparation, I go through a strange, empty process before
Speaker 2: I go to the stage and try to evaporate all
Speaker 2: the preconceived notions. This is just a bunch of fucking
Speaker 2: asshole shit that I try to stay vulnerable. This also
Speaker 2: accounts I think, Okay, sorry, this is what I'm trying
Speaker 2: to get to. This also accounts is talking about the audience.
Speaker 2: This also accounts I think for a certain amount of
Speaker 2: confusion on the part of the audiences that see my movies.
Speaker 2: They find them disorienting, problematic, and diicult to follow. Illogical,
Speaker 2: if you will. My film seemed totally logical to me,
Speaker 2: But I'm pursuing a psychological god. Shut okay anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he knows that it fucks with the health people
Speaker 2: are watching stuff.
Speaker 4: He knows it makes for a worse movie. He just
Speaker 4: doesn't care.
Speaker 2: He says, quote, Stay Hungry Again does begin on an
Speaker 2: incredibly solemn note, a boy riding through a force and
Speaker 2: sitting alone, A leftover voiceover, sorry, a letter voiceover introducing
Speaker 2: us to the problems of his life, the despair of
Speaker 2: his life, and immediately stamp. We're dealing with the wild
Speaker 2: flourishes of middle class Birmingham businessman talking on cebe units.
Speaker 2: The film constantly, almost maniacally, shifts from one mood to
Speaker 2: the next. It does take on totally unexpected confrontations. There
Speaker 2: is a sudden explosion of comic energy when the body
Speaker 2: of logical racing to the streets of Birmingham. But these
Speaker 2: things are I hope anticipated, No, they're not at all.
Speaker 2: How how would they have been so that they don't
Speaker 2: just happen arbitrarily or as radically stylistic departures?
Speaker 4: And I thought you didn't want us to anticipate what's
Speaker 4: gonna happen at the end of the movie. Fuck you,
Speaker 4: fuck you and everything you do.
Speaker 1: I mean, look to be fair, God, we want to
Speaker 1: say we're familiar with seventies cinema, but we're only familiar
Speaker 1: with like ten movies in the entire fucking decade, like
Speaker 1: Star Wars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a reason those movies have like lasted.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, well there's a reason they've lasted
Speaker 1: and some didn't. But like it's kind of a it's
Speaker 1: like tighten and onion to your bilt, like it was
Speaker 1: a style at the time. This is like how things
Speaker 1: were done. Like people don't realize like you were able
Speaker 1: to get it's like eighties REP. Like like it was
Speaker 1: a new groundbreaking thing.
Speaker 2: See that's something that I get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you like listen to like eighties REP
Speaker 1: like pre NWA or whatever, and just like like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's a couple of ones you can like get into,
Speaker 1: but you're not like, wow, this is fucking mind breaking
Speaker 1: or like early's like early like late fifties, early sixties rock,
Speaker 1: like rock and roll, like when the white people got
Speaker 1: ahold of it. It's like the same sort of thing,
Speaker 1: like yeah, there's a couple of bops in there or whatever,
Speaker 1: but like it's not you know, it wasn't until like
Speaker 1: the late sixties where people were like, oh fuck man,
Speaker 1: like rock people can like make it art or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's kind of like that. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not trying to justify like this movie or anything,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's a fucking different time in art
Speaker 1: and art and cinema and by cinema meaning art, but
Speaker 1: it's just different. People didn't make like good ass crazy
Speaker 1: ship till till later.
Speaker 2: But they did, you know they did because a.
Speaker 4: Couple of people did.
Speaker 1: Okay, like what what what? What? Like what fucking movies?
Speaker 1: Like okay, okay, no one, I mean Jaws is.
Speaker 2: Made.
Speaker 1: I was getting there, like like you have your scorseses
Speaker 1: and you have like your fucking Francis for and you're.
Speaker 2: Like monster directors, like they're really good directors.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like you guys, guys like that are like
Speaker 1: cutting edge, but you guys, you need people who are
Speaker 1: just like have fun B B plus movies like any
Speaker 1: any early thing, like any early straw or whatever. It's
Speaker 1: just the fucking bar has been raised so much since then.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's the uh, he's the Michael Michael Bay of
Speaker 2: the seventies basically, like but you know not like like
Speaker 2: it's where a stouts were like why was this popular?
Speaker 2: Like when like when people are watching it thirty years later,
Speaker 2: like look at it.
Speaker 1: It's don't get it.
Speaker 4: Even Michael Bay, he's like the fucking he's like the
Speaker 4: fucking Peter Berg or what it like.
Speaker 3: Peter Berg, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't know he's uh the Yule Bowl,
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: Or maybe it was one that they made that movie
Speaker 2: about Mark uh oh the Long Hair, Yeah, Temmy it
Speaker 2: was so yeah, yeah, that's probably a little worse. That's
Speaker 2: that's the kind of probably an insult.
Speaker 1: But anyway, well, okay, so think think about it like TV, like, uh,
Speaker 1: TV shows that came in the nineties, you know that
Speaker 1: were like fucking great or whatever ninety something percent. Don't
Speaker 1: have to fucking candle to what we have for like
Speaker 1: TV today, Like yeah, you had Seinfeld, and you had
Speaker 1: the Simpsons, and in the late nineties you had like
Speaker 1: the Sopranos or whatever. But like like all the other
Speaker 1: shows like fucking Dharma and greg Or, like, uh, Drew
Speaker 1: Carrey Show, The Drew Carrey Show, like that was about Cleveland.
Speaker 1: No one goes a fuck about Cleveland. I wouldn't say, uh, Reba,
Speaker 1: but you like this show and you kind of made
Speaker 1: me like that show.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Okay, Home Improvement there, we'll go with that one. Everyone
Speaker 1: hates that show like that. That was like this thing
Speaker 1: in there that was like upper. That was like a
Speaker 1: fucking solid B show. That show came out. Now that's
Speaker 1: like a f plus at best.
Speaker 2: I think that show just came re came out, like
Speaker 2: with whatever.
Speaker 1: He's just cat Dennis.
Speaker 4: Yes, the last two Tim Allen shows that made Yes, Uh,
Speaker 4: that's correct.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying the standard was the bar was
Speaker 1: allowed lower. So you anybody with art and everything says
Speaker 1: a sana like I'm not reaching the top. I'm standing
Speaker 1: on the shoulders of giants. Yeah I'm not saying like
Speaker 1: I'm not saying fucking raffleson. And this movie is like
Speaker 1: a giant people in cinema, tough one, but like you know,
Speaker 1: like you can't reach the top unless you stand on
Speaker 1: some fucking shoulders and so you know what, I can
Speaker 1: see that for.
Speaker 2: Sure, like uh with whatever, like the time. But like
Speaker 2: I think my problem with this movie is how people
Speaker 2: look at it still like now it's still it's still
Speaker 2: not enough towards he's actually remembered. But like the articles
Speaker 2: that I do read, they're like the movies were like groundbreaking.
Speaker 2: I'm like this, they're fine.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But also I haven't gotten a film school and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. Maybe when I did it. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: you've got a good point, Like this represents the whatever of.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same idea with Citizen Kan. Like
Speaker 1: if you go and watch that movie now, you like,
Speaker 1: it's fine, It's boring as fuck, it's fine.
Speaker 2: I've never seen I don't think I've seen it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's it's fine. But I can easily understand
Speaker 1: the argument for the greatest movie of all time because
Speaker 1: like it just completely changed the fucking way the game
Speaker 1: was played.
Speaker 2: You know, this didn't do that though, Like I'm not.
Speaker 1: Saying it did that, but like it could be in
Speaker 1: that kind of level, Like it's.
Speaker 4: But art is iterative, so everything is building on top
Speaker 4: of everything else. Even if it is not the most
Speaker 4: famous movie from the seventies, everything that came after it
Speaker 4: is built on top of it. That for sure. I
Speaker 4: guess the only reason I'm upset is because this dude
Speaker 4: talks like he's a genius.
Speaker 2: Yes that I think, and he's not.
Speaker 4: He's not Coppola, he's not square. He's not one of
Speaker 4: those dudes. If somebody just came up to me and said,
Speaker 4: I like, stay hungry, I don't got a problem with that.
Speaker 4: Like whatever you like Man, but the fact that we're
Speaker 4: listening to him specifically talk shit about other people's movies
Speaker 4: or directing styles or whatever, and talks so much about
Speaker 4: how like wax poetic about the way he's doing things
Speaker 4: when the way he's doing things are fucking objectively wrong.
Speaker 4: Nobody shoots a movie in sequence. I mean nobody does
Speaker 4: that because it's the least efficient, dumbest way to shoot
Speaker 4: a movie.
Speaker 2: That's like, and don't you hear about you hear about
Speaker 2: it when it does happen, because you're they're like, well,
Speaker 2: shout and like I think the Revenant was shot in
Speaker 2: sequence or.
Speaker 4: Like those movies that try to be one take, they
Speaker 4: probably shoot, yes, yes they.
Speaker 2: Might, which I think is the same director is uh
Speaker 2: oh was it really? I think Birdman, I think, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, so yes, probably, But.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, I don't I get it, Like it's
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be out here, like like, oh,
Speaker 1: our podcast genius, the rest of Yel's podcast, And sometimes
Speaker 1: I feel like that and like every motherfucker's got a podcast,
Speaker 1: like these fucking losers and like, oh wait, I got
Speaker 1: a podcast too, yea yeah, But honestly, like we are visionaries.
Speaker 1: We are the bob rapherson Ano our time. When it
Speaker 1: comes to podcasts, Oh.
Speaker 2: God, oh yeah you could. I feel like you should
Speaker 2: listen to the rest of the episodes, because.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, we record them all in order, right
Speaker 1: like we start at the beginning and we keep talking
Speaker 1: to the end.
Speaker 3: So okay.
Speaker 2: So this last quote that I have, he says, quote,
Speaker 2: there's a character who invents his own language, who takes
Speaker 2: us to the edge of farce and becomes communicator of
Speaker 2: a bedlam that's going on between the gym and the auditorium.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 2: There is a kind of challenge to see what would
Speaker 2: happen if the Martians landed, so to speak. So this
Speaker 2: is not so, this is not unlike I suspect the
Speaker 2: way people's lives are lived all the time. We are
Speaker 2: despairing and ecstatic and in various degrees from moment to
Speaker 2: moment in day to day anyway. So I tried to
Speaker 2: put that kind of energy into the movie. But this
Speaker 2: all makes my work somewhat abrasive to a movie audience,
Speaker 2: and it's one of the consequences that I have to
Speaker 2: suffer if I'm going to continue to work in this form,
Speaker 2: which I don't necessarily anticipate doing for the rest of
Speaker 2: my life. That shit right there is where I'm like,
Speaker 2: fuck this guy. He's like, if I have to suffer
Speaker 2: from my art, then that's the way it's gotta be.
Speaker 2: Like he's just like the epitome of like douchebag like
Speaker 2: film artsy elite exactly. It's like this guy is the
Speaker 2: fucking epitome of it. Anyway, It's just whatever. But there's
Speaker 2: something with the review that made a good point about
Speaker 2: the movie. But the New York Times review of this
Speaker 2: says it quote was written by because the New York
Speaker 2: Times addresses everyone by mister mister Raffleson and Charles Gaines,
Speaker 2: who also wrote the original novel and who, according to
Speaker 2: program Notes, was ready to make any changes in the
Speaker 2: novel that mister Raffleson wanted, It says, quote Frankly, mister
Speaker 2: Gaines is reported to have said, I just want to
Speaker 2: write a screenplay. Mister Raffleson is quoted as saying, quote,
Speaker 2: it was more than just adapting a novelist screen It
Speaker 2: meant restructuring the script, bringing new characters to life. Mister
Speaker 2: Gaines's creative juices flowed as though it was a new
Speaker 2: project in this whole experience was exhilarating. This, I fear,
Speaker 2: is just what's wrong with Stay hungry. Mister Gaines was
Speaker 2: ready to jettison a lot of his novel, on which
Speaker 2: I assume he worked long and hard in order to
Speaker 2: make a movie, any movie, while mister Raffleson ran around
Speaker 2: keeping those old creative juices flowing instead of turning off
Speaker 2: the taps once in a while, I was like, this
Speaker 2: guy's fucking on fire. The experience of me have been
Speaker 2: exhilarating for the two of them, but for us, it's
Speaker 2: all clutter. It's just sort of it. It is a
Speaker 2: sort of movie whose vapidity is exposed as soon as
Speaker 2: the clutter is removed. So that's the end of that,
Speaker 2: like the last thing I had. But so how about
Speaker 2: we move on to our favorite lines?
Speaker 1: Were cooking.
Speaker 2: He has powers, as we do, certainly, but oh, magnificent one.
Speaker 1: He is just one, or you are three or four
Speaker 1: if you count even twice.
Speaker 4: I've got a line.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start with Chris then, Okay.
Speaker 4: I just really like when Robert England is given him
Speaker 4: the tour and he's talking about the hot Top and
Speaker 4: he goes it's got herbs in it. Herbs, herbs. Sorry,
Speaker 4: it's got herbs in it.
Speaker 2: He was talking about the hot he was talking about
Speaker 2: hot dogs, hot tub.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I was like, hot dogs like.
Speaker 4: Herbs, and yeah, I don't know if there's not a
Speaker 4: lot of good lines in this but that I like
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 1: No, I literally have, I have nothing. I was watching
Speaker 1: it and like waiting for something to make me laugh
Speaker 1: or something like literally anything. I mean, I guess like
Speaker 1: the stay hungry line is the only line that I'll
Speaker 1: probably still remember. And maybe that line, yeah, maybe not
Speaker 1: just because it's the name of the movie, but maybe
Speaker 1: that's what made me notice it more. But that's all
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 4: It's probably like the only well written.
Speaker 2: That that is a very good line. Yeah, yeah, Joe's
Speaker 2: probably got a better answer. And the only one that
Speaker 2: made me laugh was the why don't you have some
Speaker 2: more weight on that? That bar pery what made me laugh,
Speaker 2: But it was just more like because it felt it
Speaker 2: fell dead flat and then just jeff Bert Bridges smirking
Speaker 2: like it was like, I don't know, it just made
Speaker 2: it seem like it was U provides. But anyway, all right,
Speaker 2: moving on, have.
Speaker 3: You ever killed anyone yeah, but they were all bad.
Speaker 2: We were supposed to actually start with the kill can,
Speaker 2: which was zero.
Speaker 4: I would assume, Yeah, let's see, did they kill anyone? Oh?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, two?
Speaker 3: Two?
Speaker 2: Yess yeah, his parents.
Speaker 4: That's off screen, motherfucker. I'm three before the movie starts.
Speaker 3: Three.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I didn't look it up because
Speaker 2: I was I thought it was zero.
Speaker 1: Well, his parents and that fish.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was on a stick. I was on screen,
Speaker 2: so yeah, okay, but yeah, I don't think there was
Speaker 2: anything else in there now.
Speaker 4: I'm sure. I'm sure he shot some stuff before the
Speaker 4: beginning of the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. So uh And then before we get to
Speaker 2: the irons pumped, how about we get our asses tomus
Speaker 2: and play a little perto recall.
Speaker 1: What do you want, mister quay? The same as you
Speaker 1: to remember opening your.
Speaker 2: Mind for anyone listening who doesn't know, all it is
Speaker 2: is five randm trivia questions from the movie we just watched,
Speaker 2: and the first one to get three correct wins, so
Speaker 2: quick rule thing. Chris reads the questions, whoever knows the
Speaker 2: answer buzzes and using their name as the buzzer. Keep
Speaker 2: in mind, whoever like the second someone buzzes in they'll
Speaker 2: separate in the question, so just gotta yeah anyway, Yeah, Chris,
Speaker 2: go right ahead, you got it. Also, Joe always wins,
Speaker 2: which is kind of annoying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, we got five questions here, and uh yeah,
Speaker 4: that's all I could squeeze out of this movie.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: How long has it been since Blake's parents died?
Speaker 1: Joe Joe? Two years?
Speaker 4: Nope, Aaron, Aaron with the chance to steal.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's not right, but.
Speaker 3: Two weeks is my own.
Speaker 2: I know that that's how long he was. Like I
Speaker 2: would say three months besides that, but I.
Speaker 4: Know that two weeks is how long it took for
Speaker 4: his uncle to reach it because he was No, it's
Speaker 4: five months.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: Number two, What is Newton gonna do with his bonus money?
Speaker 1: Bye? I don't.
Speaker 2: I have no idea?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, does Joe have a guess?
Speaker 1: He is going to go to a different gym.
Speaker 3: I remember him.
Speaker 2: Mentioning the bonus bonus money, but I don't remember what
Speaker 2: he said.
Speaker 4: He's going to start a chicken farm. And then like
Speaker 4: I think he said he's he just goes off in
Speaker 4: this weird rant where I think he says he's going
Speaker 4: to create a competing chicken restaurant, like to compete.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well he also asked the question, what is
Speaker 1: Newton plan?
Speaker 2: Jesus, Yeah, I should have said he's just going to
Speaker 2: start a fig farm.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 4: That would have been a better answer. What are the
Speaker 4: three sports that Joe Santo participates in besides bodybuilding?
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, Joe? Curling?
Speaker 4: Really, javelin, No, you got curling? I guess I should
Speaker 4: have told you that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Well I knew curling like water skiing, Nope, like okay, the.
Speaker 4: Sport, but uh it's he when when Robert England is
Speaker 4: talking him up, he says he bowls a two hundred,
Speaker 4: he's damn near an Olympic swimmer and he's a curling champion.
Speaker 2: Okay, joking have that one? If if we don't, if we,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's fair.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's that's the first that's the first
Speaker 4: even answer that anybody's had. So joking on that one.
Speaker 4: What did Mary Tate think the stolen painting was before
Speaker 4: she saw it up close?
Speaker 2: She says it before he goes in the building.
Speaker 4: No, but she says it after he brings it out,
Speaker 4: and then She's like, oh, I thought it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know what it is after well, sure, Joe,
Speaker 2: Joe boats, I have no answer.
Speaker 4: It's a lion. She thought it was a lion when
Speaker 4: she saw it in the window.
Speaker 3: Oh okay.
Speaker 2: And last question is what happens when you watch it
Speaker 2: three times? Because I guess twice.
Speaker 4: This is also what happens when I can't. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: just picked random ship. The hot tub is always kept
Speaker 4: precisely at what Joe? And there you go. Joe's got it.
Speaker 2: Dad, I had, I had, I wrote down one thing
Speaker 2: was it was a number two?
Speaker 1: It was what was it?
Speaker 2: How many kids or something like that?
Speaker 1: Or cousins?
Speaker 2: Is how many cousins?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that probably would have been all right. See, but
Speaker 4: then you both would have known that. And my aim
Speaker 4: is for this game to be terrible.
Speaker 2: Well should accomplished.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, when.
Speaker 1: The big man was killed, you must have wounded it.
Speaker 1: It's blood, wasn't the leaves?
Speaker 3: If you please, we can kill it.
Speaker 1: All right. So now we're gonna get into rating this movie.
Speaker 1: We're gonna rid on a scale for one to five
Speaker 1: or irons pumped. Please remember this is a scale of
Speaker 1: just Arnold movies only because if it included all movies,
Speaker 1: it'll be five's. So, h Chris, why don't you go
Speaker 1: ahead and tell us you're sure?
Speaker 4: Uh, this movie is not an Arnold movie in the least,
Speaker 4: like as we define it. It's just not He's barely
Speaker 4: in it really, like he's in I don't know, he's
Speaker 4: got maybe twenty minutes of.
Speaker 2: Screen time off to win an award.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine, and like I don't he's doing a
Speaker 4: fine acting job. Like, clearly he has not fully honed
Speaker 4: his acting skills yet, but this movie is actually asking
Speaker 4: a little more of him than some of his earlier
Speaker 4: films did. So he's doing a fine job, but he
Speaker 4: doesn't get to do any of the fun arnoldy ship
Speaker 4: that we made this podcast for. So like, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: trying trying to brush aside my even trying to brush
Speaker 4: aside my personal feelings about whether I like this movie
Speaker 4: or not. It's just not a good Arnold movie. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go with a one point oh okay, one point
Speaker 4: what just one point?
Speaker 2: Oh okay? I thought you said one point four.
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, well, whoever came up with this
Speaker 7: scale is an idiot, because like, why are we just
Speaker 7: doing on ten because we're out here giving me point
Speaker 7: rides and ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guys, a fucking moron. Speaking of morons, I'll
Speaker 1: go next.
Speaker 4: Would have been funny.
Speaker 1: No, it is me Kevin the Scale. Okay, this movie,
Speaker 1: I think I kind of let my feelings out. I
Speaker 1: guess a little bit early. I think it's there's so
Speaker 1: back in the day, I used to just go to
Speaker 1: like Goodwill and just find a book for a dollar
Speaker 1: and then just read through it. And a lot of
Speaker 1: them sucked. A lot of them I didn't even get through.
Speaker 1: And a lot of them were just like they were
Speaker 1: just like good, they were enjoyable, Like you got into
Speaker 1: the characters, Like the plot didn't really matter, but it
Speaker 1: kind of like kept you going with like the characters,
Speaker 1: like you were kind of put in this world. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's probably what this book was, and maybe
Speaker 1: like when this movie came out, like they try to
Speaker 1: give you the feeling of that. Like my biggest problem
Speaker 1: with Stephen King like adaptations is like that they never
Speaker 1: get the feel of the characters, just because the plot
Speaker 1: can definitely be secondary to like the world and the
Speaker 1: characters that are there in his books. But everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's fucking scary clown like clown scary whatever clowns are scary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you feel that because of him. But that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I feel like with Like, I imagine that's
Speaker 1: what the book was like, because like there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of fucking plot in this, you know, like, but
Speaker 1: I imagine the book was like You're feeling these characters in
Speaker 1: these like situations and the plot was kind of secondary,
Speaker 1: and maybe when this movie came out, it kind of
Speaker 1: was was like the same way. You know, like you
Speaker 1: like you probably didn't you didn't watch a lot of
Speaker 1: fucking movies in nineteen seventy six because you didn't watch
Speaker 1: them at home, you know, like unless there was a
Speaker 1: TV movie, like you went to this, you went to
Speaker 1: the theater or whatever, and maybe you got like kind
Speaker 1: of engrossed in it. You know, your boys talked about it,
Speaker 1: maybe you saw it twice. I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's definitely a movie for a different time. That said,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's particularly a great movie, Like it
Speaker 1: definitely didn't age well. I do think Arnold was actually
Speaker 1: pretty fucking fantastic in this and very not in a
Speaker 1: very not Arnold ye way like he was kind of
Speaker 1: subdued and played his part right, and that speaks a
Speaker 1: lot to what he's become and not what he immediately became.
Speaker 1: So I am gonna give it a one point by
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna go higher with their your No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch it again. It's not very arnoldy.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get a retrospective on it, you know,
Speaker 1: like Aaron, you and I I talk like I showed
Speaker 1: Laura dumb and dumber and she did not like it.
Speaker 1: And then you told me like, if you're ever considering
Speaker 1: a divorce shore a Centura, Like I just yes, you did,
Speaker 1: And I still laugh at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was just like Jim Carrey, Like
Speaker 2: it's the older I get, the more I'm like, but
Speaker 2: I still I can still watch him. Just yeah.
Speaker 1: But like when that came out, that was amazing and
Speaker 1: like comedy comedy, like like comedy doesn't he Well, I
Speaker 1: guess you can say, and I think, certainly, No, I
Speaker 1: don't want ever. The only way we're breaking up is
Speaker 1: went on his dice or she divorces me, but.
Speaker 2: One of us dies.
Speaker 1: But no, like like that was like our fucking ship
Speaker 1: back in the day and now, like like if you
Speaker 1: release fucking Asin Dumb and Din in theaters, people are
Speaker 1: like even the fucking kids that are our age would
Speaker 1: be like what the fuck? Like this is this sucks.
Speaker 1: It's like time and taste and how you feel about
Speaker 1: art and ship changes and uh yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: wait with with with movies?
Speaker 2: Wait did she not like Dumma Dummer?
Speaker 3: No, I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Eric she did like k is okay with this?
Speaker 1: She did like Bad Santa, which I was surprised at that.
Speaker 2: That's that's way different.
Speaker 4: That's different dumbd Dummer's like I think.
Speaker 2: It's just Jim Carrey. He's where you're like, this guy's
Speaker 2: a fucking idiot.
Speaker 4: Well no, no, I mean the Fairly Brothers movies for
Speaker 4: the most part, if not aged no, yeah, but like
Speaker 4: in general, but.
Speaker 2: Like if you get like the Ace Mature is way
Speaker 2: worse than dum Dumber as far as like this fucking
Speaker 2: guy like this movie just oh.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, like she should carry Yeah, well, I thought
Speaker 1: you would hate Beds because everyone's just a fucking asshole
Speaker 1: and most of the comedy is just everybody being a
Speaker 1: piece of ship. And it's written very like well, they
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, presently like that.
Speaker 2: So hey, hey, can you like dumb and dummer?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's all right, all right, jesus.
Speaker 2: I was trying to think of Tommy boy You see,
Speaker 2: she's seen Tommy Boy.
Speaker 1: Right, I think show, and she's probably like it's fine, Okay.
Speaker 2: She likes that's just Chris Fraley is just.
Speaker 4: Very uh I mean the Tommy Boys. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: Tommy Boy age is better because it's.
Speaker 2: Because Chris Farley is dead and you're like, fuck this guy,
Speaker 2: like he's dead.
Speaker 1: No. We I was like sick last weekend and we
Speaker 1: watched like a lot of like ninety shit no, like
Speaker 1: uh vines. I can't stop thinking about like YouTube populations
Speaker 1: and like anytime somebody falls down, I'm laughing my ass off,
Speaker 1: I'm like, And then I had to like I had
Speaker 1: to like make sure I was like aware of how
Speaker 1: dumb I'm like, guy fall down, funny. I'm like look
Speaker 1: over at her and be like, yeah, I realize I'm
Speaker 1: stupid for like laughing when people fall down. But I'm
Speaker 1: smart enough to know.
Speaker 2: That I'm stupid, Like we should watch them.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: Then, Burney's film has heart, but football in the groin
Speaker 4: has a football in.
Speaker 1: The That's what I cannot stop thinking about.
Speaker 4: Any older I get. I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Football on the grind, like that's dollars.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like.
Speaker 1: If I saw somebody to get football on the groin
Speaker 1: right now, I at forty one years old, I probably
Speaker 1: laughed my ass my grind.
Speaker 4: Who was it?
Speaker 2: George?
Speaker 5: George?
Speaker 1: But yeah, No. After that, I was like, let's watch
Speaker 1: Mementos feel smart or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's your go to now, your smart movie to Eception,
Speaker 2: something more confusing.
Speaker 1: Now we watched momental lesson. I've seen this Eception two
Speaker 1: my times. I know what's going on. Watch less Memento.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of feelings about the movie. I
Speaker 1: watched it back like in like two thousand, thousand and one.
Speaker 1: Right now, it is a very smart and well done movie.
Speaker 1: It's entertainment value. I think it's like twenty minutes too long,
Speaker 1: maybe just because I know what like kind of what
Speaker 1: happens happened? Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Like the rewatchability
Speaker 1: is just kind of like you gotta wait a long
Speaker 1: time because I watched it and it's still a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, and I was like, this movie's fucking good,
Speaker 1: even though I knew it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But if you like, I'm trying to think of something
Speaker 2: else that I waited, and then I was like, I
Speaker 2: think Gladiator to Where, which is a completely different but
Speaker 2: it was like, God, this movie's I was telling Rick,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this movie's fucking good. Yeah, but I had
Speaker 2: seen it since I was like twenty, maybe I was like,
Speaker 2: fuck men. Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1: About like, uh, mystery stuff like books or obs or
Speaker 1: shows like the game too, Like yeah, you can go
Speaker 1: back and watch it again and be like wow, like
Speaker 1: like all the signs are there, like this is amazing.
Speaker 1: Like the game or like Themento were just like fucking
Speaker 1: get to the point. Let's speed it up, like you
Speaker 1: watched it the first time. You're like, this is amazing,
Speaker 1: just like Inception kind of does that too, but Inception
Speaker 1: is actually like entertaining to watch because there's like the
Speaker 1: dream and the dream and the fucking like Joseph Gordon
Speaker 1: Levitz fight that guy in the hallway and ship. You know,
Speaker 1: you're just like, wow, this is like good. But like
Speaker 1: Memento is just like what, like I get it. There's
Speaker 1: no like action scene or anything. You know, like once
Speaker 1: kind of know what's going on, then it takes the.
Speaker 2: It's it's second time just to like you can follow it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, anyway, okay, so I'm gonna go with uh.
Speaker 1: Sorry real quick. What they need to make is memento
Speaker 1: porn where you see the kind of shot and you're like, whoa,
Speaker 1: what happened? And then it goes back to the scene
Speaker 1: before and he realized, like.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine how we got Like Dick goes about, whoa,
Speaker 4: how did that happen?
Speaker 1: And it just goes back to them like meeting at
Speaker 1: a grocery store, you know, he's like, oh, you like
Speaker 1: oranges or like we'nges too, you know, and then.
Speaker 4: The reveal is that she was hungry in ordered a pizza.
Speaker 2: Extra weird the weirdest porn all of a sudden, like
Speaker 2: the porn starts are just like like right in her
Speaker 2: face going on.
Speaker 5: But that would be you're like, wait, well, I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: I just I feel like we have to do that now.
Speaker 4: Just a shot where somebody.
Speaker 5: Gets blasted in the face and hits the wall just
Speaker 5: like Joey Pants and just sits there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, and it slowly rewinds like at then it goes
Speaker 2: all the way back to it coming out of his yeah.
Speaker 1: Like scenes, but instead of shaking the he's shaking his dick.
Speaker 1: Liked just just just meant, don't know.
Speaker 4: It sound No, you gotta make it sound smart. It's
Speaker 4: gotta be called refractory.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there.
Speaker 2: You go, Factor P and then anyway, okay, okay, so
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I cut I cut you off, but I just gave
Speaker 1: my brain. I needed to get that.
Speaker 2: Out, Okay, so uh yeah, again, my opinion has been known.
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't have to say anything about this.
Speaker 2: The movie is what it is. I don't think I
Speaker 2: have to say much because yeah, you guys know I feel. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've decide whether give it a one or
Speaker 2: I'm not going one.
Speaker 1: Okay, that is gonna leave stay hungry at a one
Speaker 1: point one six six is six seven, that's gonna put
Speaker 1: it in last place. So Batman and Robin is one
Speaker 1: point six six, Maggie Sabotage and the Villain or one
Speaker 1: point five after Man's a one point three and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be.
Speaker 2: Ready Ready sorry, ready was so bad that the score
Speaker 2: doesn't work?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it can be calculating how terrible warning morning.
Speaker 1: And that will put Stay Hungry at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the one point one six. You know what's actually weird
Speaker 1: is I think it is a better movie than Sabotage.
Speaker 1: And it's definitely a better movie than Batman and Robin.
Speaker 1: It is, and Hercules and New York. It is not
Speaker 1: more entertaining.
Speaker 2: But I'd rather watch two of those. Yeah, probably Sabotage,
Speaker 2: I'd probably rather watch. Yeah, I'd rather watch Batman and Robin.
Speaker 1: It's a better movie, but I'm not saying more entertaining.
Speaker 1: But it's not a better art ole movie. And that's
Speaker 1: what the scale's forep. So that is gonna do it.
Speaker 1: For our coverage of Stay Hungry, I just want to
Speaker 1: say to all of you out there, stay hungry or don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's literal, don't, like, you know,
Speaker 1: make sure to eat. Food banks are a great a
Speaker 1: great place for that. But most importantly, like if you're
Speaker 1: listening to this, like honestly, thank you, Like if you're
Speaker 1: a friends, thank you for supporting us. If you're not,
Speaker 1: also fucking thank you for just randomly listening to this,
Speaker 1: and especially like like listening to this episode on this
Speaker 1: fucking movie, like no one, Like, we didn't even hear
Speaker 1: about this movie before. Weirdly, I was talking to a
Speaker 1: guy tonight. I was like, oh, I got to record
Speaker 1: the podcast and he was trying to guess all these movies.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you're never gonna guess it. Was like,
Speaker 1: stay hungry. He's like, oh, stay hungry. I know that
Speaker 1: it's filmed in Birmingham. From there, I should have guessed that.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck, Like, you know about
Speaker 1: this movie.
Speaker 2: The Parents, it's a big thing, and like that. I
Speaker 2: read an article I think that came out like five
Speaker 2: years ago or so, and it was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's one of the things that Birmingham. It's don'ty four anywow.
Speaker 1: But honestly, if you're listening this far into this fucking
Speaker 1: episode and you're not the three of us, even if
Speaker 1: you're my mom, Hi mom, seriously, thank you, Like we
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. We put in a lot of work
Speaker 1: and money in this and we we're not like Raffleson.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we are like Raffleson. We just do
Speaker 1: it for the fuck it.
Speaker 4: We're not We're not out.
Speaker 1: But our next movie is going to be the very
Speaker 1: extremely underrated super frankly nineties, way ahead of a design
Speaker 1: masterpiece slash Last Action Hero. So please stay tuned. You're
Speaker 1: listening to this, You're definitely gonna listen to that, but
Speaker 1: that one's gonna be fucking straight fire. So for me, Joe,
Speaker 1: for Chris Shavian and Aaron Frescus, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for listening, And I guess there's only like one thing left. See.
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