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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eyes with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>news radio hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever four were coming up here on a very chilly

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday night. It seemed like only yesterday temperatures are in

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually coming in from Western Canada. So I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you're all buttoned up in warm and nice and toasty

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<v Speaker 2>warm and not outside. Okay. We talked tonight about four

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<v Speaker 2>interesting guests in the first hour, talking about scams with

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<v Speaker 2>Paula Fleming from the Boston Better Business Bureau, talked with

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<v Speaker 2>a fellow named Paul Martino about creating harmony in your home.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually says he can figure it out. And talked

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<v Speaker 2>with doctor Matthew Chalmers about Christmas movies, why some of

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<v Speaker 2>us love them and some of us hate them. And

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<v Speaker 2>then talk with doctor d Salim He's of Tufts Medically,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a cardiologist, and talked about the Physician Pathway Act

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<v Speaker 2>that was in the eighth During the nine we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the problem of mass and casts and the drug

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<v Speaker 2>use and the violence maybe being dispersed to the Boston

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<v Speaker 2>common area. We had a guesst Rishi Schutklop of the

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<v Speaker 2>Downtown Boston Neighborhood Association. And then last time we talked

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<v Speaker 2>with Ken Smaller a Brookline. He's a writer and a

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<v Speaker 2>photographer and his specialty is visiting and photographing stadiums and

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<v Speaker 2>arenas around the country, which is very interesting avocation. He

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<v Speaker 2>has visited some get the I think the number was

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<v Speaker 2>stadiums around the around the world. Twenty four countries, forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight states. Just interesting. Interesting guy. I wish more of

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<v Speaker 2>you had had stadium stories, but that's not my problem.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your problem, because you could have talked about your

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<v Speaker 2>first trip to a major league ballpark or to a

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<v Speaker 2>football stadium or whatever. Again, as you probably know, I

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<v Speaker 2>like to talk politics and I like to talk sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are my two wheelhouse topics. So we'll talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little politics now. Last night we did touch upon the

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<v Speaker 2>pardon for Hunter Biden, and tonight I have some reaction

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<v Speaker 2>from the typical reaction as you would expect. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a cut from Rachel Maddow of MSNBC, and my question

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<v Speaker 2>to you is, do you expect Rachel Maddow to be

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<v Speaker 2>outraged that Hunter Biden has been pardoned by his dad,

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<v Speaker 2>or do you think she will be supportive of it? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you've major. Here's the sound bite. Cut number one. Rachel

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<v Speaker 2>Matnow predictable.

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<v Speaker 3>It is true that President Biden had said he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>pardon his son, and it may or may not be related.

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<v Speaker 3>But would it change your mind at all if after

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<v Speaker 3>you made a pledge like that, the incoming next president

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<v Speaker 3>the announced that he planned to remove the director of

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<v Speaker 3>the FBI and install in his place someone who has

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<v Speaker 3>literally published a hit list of people he wants to

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<v Speaker 3>go after once Trump is back in power.

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<v Speaker 2>So the question is why stop with Hunter? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what the president is concerned about. Ironically, by

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<v Speaker 2>receiving a pardon, one of the problems about receiving a

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<v Speaker 2>pardon is you lose your Fifth Amendment rights because once

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<v Speaker 2>you have received the pardon, you are no longer in jeopardy.

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<v Speaker 2>The pardon that President Biden gave to his son covers

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<v Speaker 2>January first of twenty fourteen, that's almost eleven years ago

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<v Speaker 2>to December one of twenty twenty four that is two

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<v Speaker 2>days ago. So basically, for anything that Hunter Biden did

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<v Speaker 2>on a FED it could be charges of federal crime,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course he had been convicted on a gun

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<v Speaker 2>charges and on tax evasion charges. He is immune from

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<v Speaker 2>ever being charged with that again or anything relating to

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<v Speaker 2>federal statutes during that near eleven year period. But the

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<v Speaker 2>downside is he could be called in front of a

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<v Speaker 2>congressional committee and he could be asked questions, and he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have the right to invoke the Fifth Amendment because

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<v Speaker 2>he has no criminal liability during that period of time,

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<v Speaker 2>assuming they're asking questions. So that raises the question of

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<v Speaker 2>should President Biden and his legal team be smart enough

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<v Speaker 2>to consider pardoning other members of the administration the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 2>A former Watergate prosecutor. I have never heard of this

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<v Speaker 2>person before. Her name is Jill Wine. Middle name is Wine,

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<v Speaker 2>like drinking wine Banks, and she kind of addresses that issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob This is cut number five. Please.

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<v Speaker 4>I am relieved and thrilled that he did it. I

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<v Speaker 4>think this was one of those cases that called out

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<v Speaker 4>for clemency. Hunter Biden, first of all, would not have

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<v Speaker 4>ever been prosecuted for the gun crime but for his

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<v Speaker 4>last name. Second of all, he was addicted and that

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<v Speaker 4>was a cause of his actions. He has now been

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<v Speaker 4>sober for many years, and this is a time when

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<v Speaker 4>it is really appropriate for a grant of clemency. I

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<v Speaker 4>hope that President Biden will also issue preemptive pardons to

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<v Speaker 4>all of those people threatened by the unjustice of what

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<v Speaker 4>will become the Department of Justice in the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 5>That of course includes.

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<v Speaker 4>Jack Smith and all of his staff, many Department of

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<v Speaker 4>Justice lawyers. It includes President Biden himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, President Biden, is you a pardon for himself? What

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<v Speaker 2>about other members of the Biden family. Now that is

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<v Speaker 2>a statement from obviously a very unbiased prosecutor. I say

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<v Speaker 2>that with tongue planted, squirrely in cheek. Clearly she was thrilled.

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<v Speaker 2>That's her word. She's thrilled that Biden pardoned his son. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get a perspective. This is Jonathan Turley. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a legal expert, professor of law at George Washington University,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think a pretty solid guy. He happens to

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<v Speaker 2>also be a Fox commentator. This is cut number four.

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<v Speaker 6>The pardon question came up repeatedly, and both he and

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<v Speaker 6>the White House were adamant that they weren't considering and

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<v Speaker 6>would not give a pardon. And as in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 6>when he lied about his knowledge about the business dealings

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<v Speaker 6>of his son, he was running for election, running for

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<v Speaker 6>re election in twenty twenty four when he lied about

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<v Speaker 6>his intentions on pardoning his son. Now, this is the

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<v Speaker 6>language of this pardon is virtually on virtually on precedented.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean you really Nixon was very, very broad, but

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<v Speaker 6>we've never seen anything like this. He's literally pardoning his

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<v Speaker 6>son for any crime that he may have committed during

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<v Speaker 6>these years, everything from money laundering the murder. Now, he

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<v Speaker 6>could obviously be charged with state offenses, but the statue

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<v Speaker 6>limitations of largely run on those offenses. So it's a

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<v Speaker 6>really breathtaking act of contempt for the American people. And

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<v Speaker 6>it has happened over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's conflicting points of view. The former Watergate prosecutor

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<v Speaker 2>who's thrilled with the pardon, Jonathan Turley, is appalled by

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<v Speaker 2>the pardon, and I'd love to know what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other question that I have is who else

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<v Speaker 2>should Joe Biden pardon because if he does really want

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<v Speaker 2>to be totally prophylactic and protect first of all, Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has not set foot in the White House yet. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's set foot, but he has not been president yet.

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<v Speaker 2>He met with Joe Biden, very friendly conversation. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that that Trump is going to come in and

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<v Speaker 2>try to put in jail every Democrat that he can find.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I don't think he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>waste his time doing that. And if he, if he

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<v Speaker 2>tries to use lawfare against the Democrats, I will be

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<v Speaker 2>as critical of the law fair that was attempted in

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<v Speaker 2>some cases to be used against him. Law fair has

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<v Speaker 2>no place in our political system. He should he should

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<v Speaker 2>focus and concentrate on the policies that he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>impose and whatever he wants to change. In terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the military status of the country, our preparedness, whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not we should have as many military bases covered around

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<v Speaker 2>the world. He has to worry about things like the

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<v Speaker 2>federal debt, which is now up over thirty six trillion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars I think at last count. But what's a few

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<v Speaker 2>bill and billion dollars between friends? So yeah, there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>monumental issues that Donald Trump has to deal with. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he's going to deal with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those So my question to you, my audience, is your

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<v Speaker 2>reaction to the to the pardon of Hunter Biden. Was

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden lying to us back in June? I think

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<v Speaker 2>he was. I think that he knew that when he

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<v Speaker 2>said there's no way he's going to pardon his son,

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<v Speaker 2>he knew he was not telling the American people the truth. Now, again,

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<v Speaker 2>circumstances change over time. But I said last night, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say again, that he should have been much more

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<v Speaker 2>cautious about what he said, and he should have said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a situation that I'm not going to contemplate

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<v Speaker 2>until after the election. That's he at that point when

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<v Speaker 2>he was first asked that question. So just going to

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<v Speaker 2>open it up. Who else should Joe Biden pardon? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think this is the end of it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that the president, if he has competent legal counsel, is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be told that there are others members of

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<v Speaker 2>his family. There's been suggestions that one of his brothers

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<v Speaker 2>might have been somehow involved. I don't know the extent

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<v Speaker 2>to which any of that is true, but it would

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<v Speaker 2>seem to me that if he's looking to protect his

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<v Speaker 2>son from a Justice department run by a Trump appointee,

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<v Speaker 2>you exercise the same diligence and caution to other members

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<v Speaker 2>of his family. In my opinion, I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what the interpersonal relationship is between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume it's not particularly good. Certainly would seem uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And once Donald Trump steps into the White House and

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden steps out of the White House for good,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden's presidential powers cease immediately as soon as Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump puts his hand on the Bible and swears the

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<v Speaker 2>oath of office. Six one seven, two, five, four ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Feel

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<v Speaker 2>free to join the conversation. Also, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>any of you still use the triple eight number. Triple

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<v Speaker 2>eight nine two nine, ten thirty. We're talking pardons and

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<v Speaker 2>feel free. Some of you weren't able to get in

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<v Speaker 2>last night. Just give you an opportunity. Open up these

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<v Speaker 2>phone lines. We'll be right back on night Side. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a quick break, so we'll call quickly. Coming back

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios, WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Or let's go to the call. Six one seven, two

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<v Speaker 2>five four ten thirty. Those lines are full six one

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<v Speaker 2>seven nine three one ten thirty. Both of those lines

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<v Speaker 2>are open. Let me start it off with Archie in Sagus. Archie,

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<v Speaker 2>you were first tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>On Hi the.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>He did the right kind of a right thing, even

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<v Speaker 5>though I don't support it. Biden did the right thing

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<v Speaker 5>by it because you don't want another.

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<v Speaker 8>Shore.

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<v Speaker 5>But Bien, uh, you know it's going to take a

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<v Speaker 5>long time and on their tack face experenses, what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm trying to follow you. So let me let

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<v Speaker 2>me stick let me stick with it here. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he you you agree that the president did the right thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but tell me why you feel he did that.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Personally, I don't think he did the right thing, but

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with the decision because that we are going

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<v Speaker 5>to have another a big kind of a legal battle

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<v Speaker 5>on a taxpayers expenses for years, same as they did

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<v Speaker 5>to the Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you're saying that by pardoning his son, that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to save the taxpayer's money. That was his motivation.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's all what I'm done with, and so we

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<v Speaker 5>don't have to worry about it and call it a day.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, sometimes you were not lose, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now, let me ask you this. A lot of people,

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes there's an exception because he's the president and he's

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<v Speaker 8>To do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let's assume that Donald Trump's one of Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's children got into a similar problem. Donald Trump or

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<v Speaker 2>feel the same way if Trump Donald a president, Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump pardoned his.

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<v Speaker 10>Son, I feel the same way, because there is sometimes

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<v Speaker 11>Way because of the situation, rather than you know, there

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<v Speaker 11>you have to admit that if the president and the

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<v Speaker 12>And the other thing is uh, it would be nice

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<v Speaker 12>your Biden turned around and say, buying the dollars Trump

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, believe most of those those cases, at least the

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<v Speaker 2>federal cases have at this point been dropped. Archie, appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. A very interesting analysis, quite different

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<v Speaker 2>than mine. But I was interested in your your your logic,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's certainly a consistency to that logic. Thanks Archie,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate your call.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you, Dan, You have a wonderful night.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, YouTube, let me go to John in North Carolina. John,

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<v Speaker 2>you were next on Nightside. Who else should Joe Biden pardon?

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<v Speaker 13>Well he should. William have to pardon James because James

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<v Speaker 13>is right in the thick of things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's his brother, that would be his brother, right.

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<v Speaker 13>But to comment on the I guess it was Rachel

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<v Speaker 13>Maddow the clip that you played. Yes, it's really ludicrous

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<v Speaker 13>for these people to be making these to be excusing

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<v Speaker 13>Hunter based on his being addicted to drugs, because I

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<v Speaker 13>dare say, a lot of career criminals are addicted to drugs,

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<v Speaker 13>and it's instead of being an excuse, it's an aggravating

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<v Speaker 2>It is particularly Yuh. Well, I don't know. Maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>defense lawyers will jump on the idea. Oh you ever know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we may have new legal precedent here. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think it's I just think it's interesting. What I

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<v Speaker 2>am not as bothered. I don't know about you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not as bothered by what the president did in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the part because I think anyone who has a

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<v Speaker 13>In June in ju Well, let me comment on that.

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<v Speaker 13>I this idea about well, it's because it's his son.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, I'm reminded of back in the days of

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a little different. Yeah, I go back a

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<v Speaker 2>long way. I remember hearing those stories. I never covered that,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way as a reporter. Just to make it clear, okay.

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<v Speaker 13>But I had just one more comment about the drug.

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<v Speaker 13>The drug thing. You know, another excuse they're making for

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<v Speaker 13>high is that, well, he's been clean for the past

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<v Speaker 13>five and a half years of drugs. So my question is,

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<v Speaker 13>who's cocaine was that that they found in the White

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it wasn't necessarily his if he's been clean, would

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<v Speaker 2>it now?

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<v Speaker 8>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean if you believe yeah, whatever. Well, I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>my fault with the president is he basically sat there

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<v Speaker 2>at Normandy and someone mentioned it last night. He's sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there in normal in Normandy, you know, which is obviously

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<v Speaker 2>hallowed American ground, although it's in France. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>American blood was shed there on June sixth, nineteen forty four.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he lied. I think that he knew

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<v Speaker 2>that when push came to shove, he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>pardon Hunter Biden. I think if if he had stood

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<v Speaker 2>for reelection in one he could have parted the knowing

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<v Speaker 2>White House. If he stepped aside and Harris won the race,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure she would have pardoned Hunter Biden. At least

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<v Speaker 2>I believe she would have partnered Hunter Biden as a

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<v Speaker 2>courtesy to Joe Biden. And if she had lost the race.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden was still president for the ballance of November

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<v Speaker 2>December and until January twentieth, So he knew that he

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<v Speaker 2>had this covered no matter what.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, that's the way you would think. But if you

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<v Speaker 13>get into the psychology of a congenital liar like Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 13>there's no telling how his mind works.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, they do say that people who are

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so not telling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, John, great to hear your voice as always.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for listening to us down there in

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. By the way, do you get us over

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<v Speaker 2>the year in the radio? Do you get us on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet?

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<v Speaker 13>I get it over the air, which means that it's

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<v Speaker 13>in the winter months that I get the best reception.

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<v Speaker 13>In the summer, it's it's it's hard for me to

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Well, keep listening, okay, I think you think, and

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<v Speaker 2>keep calling. Thanks John, And if I don't chat with

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<v Speaker 2>they have a great Christmas.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, thanks man, Bye bye John, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Six one seven, two five four ten thirty. Got one

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<v Speaker 2>line there and one line at six one seven nine

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<v Speaker 2>three one ten thirty. And the ladies have been absent tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were absent on this subject last night. I

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<v Speaker 2>but I would think that women have a strong feeling

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<v Speaker 2>of a parent and and maybe agreed that the president

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<v Speaker 2>should have pardoned his son, or they can put themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in the position of someone who says, hey, even though

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<v Speaker 2>he pardoned, they would agree with me that he shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have lied. I think he should have equivocated in June.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that when David Muir asked him the question,

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<v Speaker 2>will you pardon your son? I think he should have said, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>you're asking me a question, which is a hypothetical question.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't even considered that. When the time comes, I

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<v Speaker 2>uh and and our legal system. And I would have

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<v Speaker 2>left it at that, but he chose not to. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>when he said no, he was then a candidate for president.

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<v Speaker 2>He eventually was moved out of that position by the

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<v Speaker 2>poobahs of the Democratic Party. We got the news six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six, seven ninety. That's filled the lines up. Coming

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<v Speaker 2>back on night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b

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<v Speaker 1>Z Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back to the calls. We're going to go next

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<v Speaker 2>to Paul in Pennsylvania. Paul, you were next to Nightside Welcome.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, great show. Yeah, I'm going on and uh,

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<v Speaker 8>he hit the bail right in hand. When when President

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<v Speaker 8>Biden was interviewed back in June or whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 8>he as far as he knew, he was going to

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<v Speaker 8>be the writing for president. And I think a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of circumstances changed, and you're right, he quitted, equivocated, and

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<v Speaker 8>he came out with a direct answer. But I think that,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, with his knowledge at the time of what

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<v Speaker 2>Did I lose you there, Paul, No, I'm here, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>finished that that comment. I think you dropped off for

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<v Speaker 2>just a second. You were saying he equivocated what.

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<v Speaker 8>He gave his answer back in June, and I believe

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<v Speaker 8>that's what he believed at the time. He wasn't going

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<v Speaker 8>to part the sun. He thought he was gonna be

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<v Speaker 8>rinning for president. And you know, a lot of things

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<v Speaker 8>changed in the last six months, like you said, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So you you think you think that he was telling

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I don't think he had any any uh, foresight

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<v Speaker 8>of what was gonna happen with the debate. I don't

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<v Speaker 8>think he had any idea his own party was going

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<v Speaker 8>to force him to step down. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me ask you this, Uh. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>did you vote for him in twenty twenty, No, I

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<v Speaker 8>I voted for President Trump. But on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 8>don't Dan, I don't want President Trump next I wonder

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<v Speaker 8>for President Trump this time too, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 8>to see his whole next term, President Trump retribution tour,

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<v Speaker 8>where he's gonna get back and everybody to try to

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<v Speaker 8>put him in president believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I couldn't have. I couldn't. I agree with you totally.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason is the more time that he spends

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<v Speaker 2>on what you call the retribution tour, uh, the less

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<v Speaker 2>time that he's spending on policy uh and on on

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<v Speaker 2>decisions that can can change the direction of the country

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<v Speaker 2>and theoretically helped the American people, whether it's tightening up

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<v Speaker 2>to do to be better prepared militarily, how we're going

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<v Speaker 2>are we behind other countries around the world all of that. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you totally. But what I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe that Joe Biden was not thinking in June,

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<v Speaker 2>hey maybe I'll run, maybe I'll win. If he won,

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<v Speaker 2>he then could pardon. He could say, hey, I was

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<v Speaker 2>supported by the American people, I'm pardoning my son, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was there would be no cost for him because

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<v Speaker 2>he then would have four more years if if he lost,

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<v Speaker 2>let us say and and and he was the nominee,

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<v Speaker 2>he then has the two and a half months to say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>before I leave, what am I going to do? There

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<v Speaker 2>will be other pardons. I don't know if they will

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<v Speaker 2>be related to Hunter Biden or to his family, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think he may want to at least be thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about that at this point, don't you.

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<v Speaker 8>What happened is when transpired in the last six months.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he really got bushwhacked, you know, between the

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<v Speaker 8>and and like you said, Dan, like in Brazil that

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<v Speaker 8>President Lula, he was actually in prison and he gets

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<v Speaker 8>out now he wants to put Bolson there on prison.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't want to live in the coutpy like that. Dad.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think you have to either.

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely not. I think that I've said for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>us to turn into a Banana republic. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they do in Banana republics.

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<v Speaker 8>I want President Trump to concentrate the policy and make

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<v Speaker 8>this a better country for MEU and whoever voted for

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<v Speaker 8>President Biden or Harris or whoever else.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone he's the president. He will be the president on

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<v Speaker 2>January twentieth for everyone, whether they like, whether people like

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<v Speaker 2>it or not. I mean, you know, they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to they don't have to agree to that. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>only one president at the time. Joe Biden is the

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<v Speaker 2>president of the country. Now, he's my president. He's your president.

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<v Speaker 2>Simple as that, right the way. Thanks, Thanks, Paul, appreciate.

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<v Speaker 8>You, rank you, Dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you a good night. Six one seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Next up is Craig in Ohio. Craig, welcome back. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you Craig?

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<v Speaker 8>All right?

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<v Speaker 14>I just got two things I'm tired of here, and

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<v Speaker 14>did you know his child. He's a fifty four year

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<v Speaker 14>old man, you know, Hunter Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 14>And you know in seven or eight months he's going

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<v Speaker 14>to be grouped up again. Guarantee it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you don't know. I mean, you might be right,

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<v Speaker 2>you might be wrong, but none of us can we

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<v Speaker 2>can we can speculate on the future. We can't predict

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<v Speaker 2>the future. Maybe he will just go off quietly. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I guess he could become a lobbyist,

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<v Speaker 2>no question about that. I mean, I'm sure that he

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<v Speaker 2>could work for any of the Democratic lobbying groups his

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<v Speaker 2>you know he will. He will have some influence. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess he is his father on your Well, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he could. Look I think I actually, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm going to revise and revoke my remarks here because,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, you're probably right. But he'll

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<v Speaker 2>end up something. There will be some law firm that

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<v Speaker 2>will take him in. I guarantee you that, I guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>you that that there will be some primarily democratic law

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<v Speaker 2>firm that will take him in and shelter him for

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<v Speaker 2>the for the next ten or so years. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll write a maybe he'll write a book. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't think is going to be homeless. Greg.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, yeah, that's true. But uh, I just get

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<v Speaker 14>tired of hearing his child his child.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me ask you if you have any kids

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<v Speaker 2>or no.

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<v Speaker 14>No, I lost my son that game to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to hear that. I that's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a tough one, Craig.

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<v Speaker 14>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think any parent, you know, once someone said

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<v Speaker 2>to me that you'll always be your son's parent until

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<v Speaker 2>the day you die. And I understand that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>suspect that, you know, Joe Biden would have given up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of his fame and fortune, h and even

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<v Speaker 2>maybe his presidency if his son never ended up going

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<v Speaker 2>down that path of self destruction.

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<v Speaker 14>I would hope. So. But one last thing, Dan, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>it just seems like people would know too much in Washington.

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<v Speaker 14>D see something happens to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, there's a lot of people who go to Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>and look, there's a lot of people who end up

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<v Speaker 2>not with a very happy life. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>go to Washington, spend the rest of their lives there

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<v Speaker 2>and they retire. Look at Mitch McConnell. I mean, guy,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's he just kind of There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>folks who go along to get along, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>McConnell would be one of them. But you're right, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who go there and they get

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<v Speaker 2>drunk with power and they make bad decisions. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they do that in the NBA, the NFL, Major League Baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>and they probably do it in law firms and doctors' offices.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh, everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Human beings, human beings fraught as we are. Wait hear

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<v Speaker 2>your voice, come on back more often. And if I

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk, you have a merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, take care Mary Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Also all right, thanks, thanks, great good night. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>go to Paul and Dorchester. Paul, you were next on Nightside. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, thanks Dan.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I am sorry to disagree with the other Paul,

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<v Speaker 7>but their retribution to her. I had three years of

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<v Speaker 7>Adam Shift coming down like the cat that swallowed the canary,

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<v Speaker 7>saying he's got that, but in he's got this, and

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<v Speaker 7>every day I had to listen to that for three years,

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<v Speaker 7>and then to see them live before Congress. There's gotta

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<v Speaker 7>be some accountability. There's not can be like, oh, forget

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<v Speaker 7>about it, because it's like that the Republicans got like

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<v Speaker 7>like like no, uh, you know, like no manhood teams.

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<v Speaker 7>We go after him, and and you know what wawing

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<v Speaker 7>that was done.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me make a suggestion. Okay, if I were Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's lawyer and I'm not or his legal counsel, as

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<v Speaker 2>they would say, I would say, let Congress do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>investigations they want. This should be something that should be

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<v Speaker 2>left to Congress. The present.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, somebody's gonna somebody's gotta get I. I three years

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<v Speaker 7>of Adam Shift driving me crazy. I just can't believe

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<v Speaker 7>that they're gonna just forget about it. He lied to

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<v Speaker 7>Congress all that stuff. You know, there's no law against

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<v Speaker 7>Pelosi ripping up a constitution. What trumps you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 7>his plan of action, and that was the most disrespectful

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<v Speaker 7>thing I think I've ever seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>That what you're talking about, specifically was her ripping up

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<v Speaker 2>his State of the Union address and then clapping sarcastically

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<v Speaker 2>in his face right.

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<v Speaker 7>While they were on camera. I mean like, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 7>was so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh, I mean there all that she displayed towards

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump was I thought repulsive at the time. I

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<v Speaker 2>said it at the time, I would have felt the

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<v Speaker 2>same way if it was if if Mike Johnson, the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Speaker of the House, uh, did the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>to I mean if to a to a President Harris

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<v Speaker 2>had she been elected, or to a President Biden. It

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<v Speaker 2>just unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 7>One last point, Damp. They impeaced President Trump for what

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<v Speaker 7>Biden pardons his son fall. He made a phone call

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<v Speaker 7>to Zelenski about investigating Ukraine, and he was in peace

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<v Speaker 7>for that. And Biden had a punish, Uh, he had

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<v Speaker 7>a part in him for that crime that that Trump

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<v Speaker 7>there was right to be investigated at the time, and

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<v Speaker 7>he was in peace for it. There was so much wrong, Dan.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not a retribution to her. It's called the it

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<v Speaker 7>was called weaponization of the of the FBI, the Justice Department,

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<v Speaker 7>the Department. There's just so much, Dan, that the fish

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<v Speaker 7>rots from the head down.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that that is that is a phrase that Mike Dukaka,

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<v Speaker 2>is a Democrat presidential candidate, often invoked. So, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you on that. And there was law fair, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>In my in my opinion, there were things that Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump did which were in my opinion, really dumb. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean when when he held all of those documents at

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<v Speaker 2>mar Lago in uh In after after his presidency. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think that was a mistake.

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<v Speaker 7>That was at least authority was vice president. He had

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<v Speaker 7>no authority to do all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that. But but when the FBI comes calling

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<v Speaker 2>and they're looking for documents, as as a lawyer, you say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to turn the documents over. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask that a court audit order that they be kept

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<v Speaker 2>under seal was to decide whether or not you in

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<v Speaker 2>fact have the right to keep those documents. And we'll

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<v Speaker 2>go through each and every document. But that way you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get yourself indicted.

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<v Speaker 7>As as he But they showed up at people's houses.

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<v Speaker 7>They showed up at old man's houses in the middle

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<v Speaker 7>of the night with swat teams. They got people out

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<v Speaker 7>of bed. It was so unnecessary all this.

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<v Speaker 2>You're absolutely true on that. How much of that you

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<v Speaker 2>can trace the Joe Biden, or how much of that

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<v Speaker 2>you can trace the Merrick Garland, or how much of

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<v Speaker 2>that you can trace to Christopher Ray of the FBI.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to find out.

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<v Speaker 7>Paul Lejoe Biden was the head and the fish rots

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<v Speaker 7>from the head down.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you got the final word. Appreciate you call Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you much, Thanks Dan, have a great night. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I got ten minutes left here, I get some

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<v Speaker 2>open lines six one seven, two four ten thirty, six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven, nine three ten thirty. Feel free to join

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation. The question is tonight. In my opinion, the

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<v Speaker 2>question I'm trying to ask is in view of the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the president has pardoned his son Hunter, who

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<v Speaker 2>else in his administration should he pardon? We had a

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<v Speaker 2>former Watergate prosecutor, prosecutor who was very pleased and happy

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<v Speaker 2>that Hunter Biden has pardoned, suggesting that the president, and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, she's the supporter of the president, needs

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<v Speaker 2>to preemptively maarden, meaning Joe Biden pardoned Hunter Biden for

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<v Speaker 2>crimes that he had been convicted for. This former Watergate

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutor wants Joe Biden to preemptively pardon, amongst others, Jack Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecutor of Donald Trump, as well as maybe Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden himself. Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven, nine, ten thirty. Feel free to join

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation. I'm here for you. I hope you're here

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<v Speaker 2>for me coming back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nice Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll let us keep rolling, going to go to Joe

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<v Speaker 2>and Belmont. Joe, welcome back. How are you tonight, sir?

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<v Speaker 15>Good? Uh, Merry Christmas, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Merry Christmas to you. Joe as well.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't think President Trump should seek revenge against the

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<v Speaker 15>deep state because in the Bible it says revenge is mind,

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<v Speaker 15>says the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good point, Joe. I'm not sure how much of

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<v Speaker 2>a Bible reader Donald Trump is, but he certainly should

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<v Speaker 2>keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 15>I know he supports the evangelicals, but you know what

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<v Speaker 15>he says and does the two different things.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever. I think you're right, you're right on that. Who

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<v Speaker 2>else should Joe Biden pardon? You think that's it for

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden's pardons or do you think that he should

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<v Speaker 2>pardon some others? Well?

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<v Speaker 15>I think you know, law comes before family. But if

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<v Speaker 15>I was Joe Biden and I had a son, I

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<v Speaker 15>would be human and I would pardon my son, whether

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<v Speaker 15>it was right or wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, that's an honest, honest answer, Joe, I

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate your candor as always, Thank you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>We will talk soon and hopefully we'll talk before Christmas.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Merry Christmas. Right back at you, good night. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>go to David in New Hampshire. David, you were next

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<v Speaker 2>time nights. I go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, Joe, nice to see you. Nice to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 11>Joe just left.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Dan, I'm the guy you call and go ahead.

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<v Speaker 14>Sorry, Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with Joe like I mean, you know, every

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<v Speaker 5>parent protects their child, but is it is it politically

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<v Speaker 5>correct in this situation?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't have I mean, the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>pardoned his son doesn't surprise me, but it bothers me

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<v Speaker 2>that he lied about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. That's where I come down. And he could

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<v Speaker 2>have easily said, you know, I haven't even contemplated that question.

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<v Speaker 2>There was still I think some open issues at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what his situation will be as

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<v Speaker 2>we go forward, and I will deal with that issue

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<v Speaker 2>as it comes up, and I'm not going to keep

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<v Speaker 2>an open mind. I would have put it like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And every parent will always protect their child, no matter

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<v Speaker 5>what situation it is. Would be in that position. Shouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>do you believe that? Is that?

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<v Speaker 8>That?

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<v Speaker 14>It is?

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<v Speaker 8>It is correct that he did that.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you on that one as well. David.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate your call. I'm going to get one more in

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<v Speaker 2>before the night comes to a close. Thanks so much

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<v Speaker 2>for call more often. Okay, thanks, thank you, Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Mary is in Arlington. Mary, you may wrap the hour

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<v Speaker 2>for us here.

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<v Speaker 9>Go ahead, Mary, No, I'm calling about situation with Joe

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<v Speaker 9>Biden around the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Mary, this is Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 9>Are you doing thinking? I don't. I don't mind Joe

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<v Speaker 9>Biden partting his son. The thing is it was it

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<v Speaker 9>was opposite.

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<v Speaker 8>It was.

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<v Speaker 9>Dan Ray, do not.

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<v Speaker 8>Trump doing it.

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<v Speaker 9>It will be no problem. But I'm thinking it. I

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<v Speaker 9>know Joe lied to the American people right and said, hey.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna he said, he said, I will not pardon him,

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<v Speaker 2>they said. When he was asked me your pardon, me

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<v Speaker 2>said no, that is that.

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<v Speaker 7>That's totally correct.

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<v Speaker 9>But I much better have the president lying to me

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<v Speaker 9>versus the President sitting me in the Oval office in

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<v Speaker 9>January six and saying, hey, I had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 9>with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well that that's fine, and I'm so glad you

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<v Speaker 2>called it we should called earlier, but I'm flat out

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<v Speaker 2>of time.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks Mary, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Great night, good night, done for the night everybody again.

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<v Speaker 2>night everyone,