Speaker 1: It's nice eyes with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Boston's
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Speaker 2: Ever four were coming up here on a very chilly
Speaker 2: Tuesday night. It seemed like only yesterday temperatures are in
Speaker 2: the seventies. Now, all of a sudden, what do they
Speaker 2: call it, the Montreal Express came blowing in from Canada.
Speaker 2: It's actually coming in from Western Canada. So I hope
Speaker 2: you're all buttoned up in warm and nice and toasty
Speaker 2: warm and not outside. Okay. We talked tonight about four
Speaker 2: interesting guests in the first hour, talking about scams with
Speaker 2: Paula Fleming from the Boston Better Business Bureau, talked with
Speaker 2: a fellow named Paul Martino about creating harmony in your home.
Speaker 2: He actually says he can figure it out. And talked
Speaker 2: with doctor Matthew Chalmers about Christmas movies, why some of
Speaker 2: us love them and some of us hate them. And
Speaker 2: then talk with doctor d Salim He's of Tufts Medically,
Speaker 2: he's a cardiologist, and talked about the Physician Pathway Act
Speaker 2: that was in the eighth During the nine we talked
Speaker 2: about the problem of mass and casts and the drug
Speaker 2: use and the violence maybe being dispersed to the Boston
Speaker 2: common area. We had a guesst Rishi Schutklop of the
Speaker 2: Downtown Boston Neighborhood Association. And then last time we talked
Speaker 2: with Ken Smaller a Brookline. He's a writer and a
Speaker 2: photographer and his specialty is visiting and photographing stadiums and
Speaker 2: arenas around the country, which is very interesting avocation. He
Speaker 2: has visited some get the I think the number was
Speaker 2: just an absolutely crazy number of stadium or stadiums or
Speaker 2: stadiums around the around the world. Twenty four countries, forty
Speaker 2: eight states. Just interesting. Interesting guy. I wish more of
Speaker 2: you had had stadium stories, but that's not my problem.
Speaker 2: That's your problem, because you could have talked about your
Speaker 2: first trip to a major league ballpark or to a
Speaker 2: football stadium or whatever. Again, as you probably know, I
Speaker 2: like to talk politics and I like to talk sports.
Speaker 2: Those are my two wheelhouse topics. So we'll talk a
Speaker 2: little politics now. Last night we did touch upon the
Speaker 2: pardon for Hunter Biden, and tonight I have some reaction
Speaker 2: from the typical reaction as you would expect. This is
Speaker 2: a cut from Rachel Maddow of MSNBC, and my question
Speaker 2: to you is, do you expect Rachel Maddow to be
Speaker 2: outraged that Hunter Biden has been pardoned by his dad,
Speaker 2: or do you think she will be supportive of it? Okay,
Speaker 2: you've major. Here's the sound bite. Cut number one. Rachel
Speaker 2: Matnow predictable.
Speaker 3: It is true that President Biden had said he wouldn't
Speaker 3: pardon his son, and it may or may not be related.
Speaker 3: But would it change your mind at all if after
Speaker 3: you made a pledge like that, the incoming next president
Speaker 3: the announced that he planned to remove the director of
Speaker 3: the FBI and install in his place someone who has
Speaker 3: literally published a hit list of people he wants to
Speaker 3: go after once Trump is back in power.
Speaker 2: So the question is why stop with Hunter? I mean,
Speaker 2: if that's what the president is concerned about. Ironically, by
Speaker 2: receiving a pardon, one of the problems about receiving a
Speaker 2: pardon is you lose your Fifth Amendment rights because once
Speaker 2: you have received the pardon, you are no longer in jeopardy.
Speaker 2: The pardon that President Biden gave to his son covers
Speaker 2: January first of twenty fourteen, that's almost eleven years ago
Speaker 2: to December one of twenty twenty four that is two
Speaker 2: days ago. So basically, for anything that Hunter Biden did
Speaker 2: on a FED it could be charges of federal crime,
Speaker 2: and of course he had been convicted on a gun
Speaker 2: charges and on tax evasion charges. He is immune from
Speaker 2: ever being charged with that again or anything relating to
Speaker 2: federal statutes during that near eleven year period. But the
Speaker 2: downside is he could be called in front of a
Speaker 2: congressional committee and he could be asked questions, and he
Speaker 2: doesn't have the right to invoke the Fifth Amendment because
Speaker 2: he has no criminal liability during that period of time,
Speaker 2: assuming they're asking questions. So that raises the question of
Speaker 2: should President Biden and his legal team be smart enough
Speaker 2: to consider pardoning other members of the administration the Biden administration.
Speaker 2: A former Watergate prosecutor. I have never heard of this
Speaker 2: person before. Her name is Jill Wine. Middle name is Wine,
Speaker 2: like drinking wine Banks, and she kind of addresses that issue.
Speaker 2: Rob This is cut number five. Please.
Speaker 4: I am relieved and thrilled that he did it. I
Speaker 4: think this was one of those cases that called out
Speaker 4: for clemency. Hunter Biden, first of all, would not have
Speaker 4: ever been prosecuted for the gun crime but for his
Speaker 4: last name. Second of all, he was addicted and that
Speaker 4: was a cause of his actions. He has now been
Speaker 4: sober for many years, and this is a time when
Speaker 4: it is really appropriate for a grant of clemency. I
Speaker 4: hope that President Biden will also issue preemptive pardons to
Speaker 4: all of those people threatened by the unjustice of what
Speaker 4: will become the Department of Justice in the Trump administration.
Speaker 5: That of course includes.
Speaker 4: Jack Smith and all of his staff, many Department of
Speaker 4: Justice lawyers. It includes President Biden himself.
Speaker 2: Good, President Biden, is you a pardon for himself? What
Speaker 2: about other members of the Biden family. Now that is
Speaker 2: a statement from obviously a very unbiased prosecutor. I say
Speaker 2: that with tongue planted, squirrely in cheek. Clearly she was thrilled.
Speaker 2: That's her word. She's thrilled that Biden pardoned his son. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's get a perspective. This is Jonathan Turley. He is
Speaker 2: a legal expert, professor of law at George Washington University,
Speaker 2: and I think a pretty solid guy. He happens to
Speaker 2: also be a Fox commentator. This is cut number four.
Speaker 6: The pardon question came up repeatedly, and both he and
Speaker 6: the White House were adamant that they weren't considering and
Speaker 6: would not give a pardon. And as in twenty twenty
Speaker 6: when he lied about his knowledge about the business dealings
Speaker 6: of his son, he was running for election, running for
Speaker 6: re election in twenty twenty four when he lied about
Speaker 6: his intentions on pardoning his son. Now, this is the
Speaker 6: language of this pardon is virtually on virtually on precedented.
Speaker 6: I mean you really Nixon was very, very broad, but
Speaker 6: we've never seen anything like this. He's literally pardoning his
Speaker 6: son for any crime that he may have committed during
Speaker 6: these years, everything from money laundering the murder. Now, he
Speaker 6: could obviously be charged with state offenses, but the statue
Speaker 6: limitations of largely run on those offenses. So it's a
Speaker 6: really breathtaking act of contempt for the American people. And
Speaker 6: it has happened over and over again.
Speaker 2: So there's conflicting points of view. The former Watergate prosecutor
Speaker 2: who's thrilled with the pardon, Jonathan Turley, is appalled by
Speaker 2: the pardon, and I'd love to know what you think.
Speaker 2: And the other question that I have is who else
Speaker 2: should Joe Biden pardon because if he does really want
Speaker 2: to be totally prophylactic and protect first of all, Donald
Speaker 2: Trump has not set foot in the White House yet. Well,
Speaker 2: he's set foot, but he has not been president yet.
Speaker 2: He met with Joe Biden, very friendly conversation. Do you
Speaker 2: think that that Trump is going to come in and
Speaker 2: try to put in jail every Democrat that he can find.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think he's going to
Speaker 2: waste his time doing that. And if he, if he
Speaker 2: tries to use lawfare against the Democrats, I will be
Speaker 2: as critical of the law fair that was attempted in
Speaker 2: some cases to be used against him. Law fair has
Speaker 2: no place in our political system. He should he should
Speaker 2: focus and concentrate on the policies that he wants to
Speaker 2: impose and whatever he wants to change. In terms of
Speaker 2: the military status of the country, our preparedness, whether or
Speaker 2: not we should have as many military bases covered around
Speaker 2: the world. He has to worry about things like the
Speaker 2: federal debt, which is now up over thirty six trillion
Speaker 2: dollars I think at last count. But what's a few
Speaker 2: bill and billion dollars between friends? So yeah, there's there's
Speaker 2: monumental issues that Donald Trump has to deal with. I
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to deal with a lot of
Speaker 2: those So my question to you, my audience, is your
Speaker 2: reaction to the to the pardon of Hunter Biden. Was
Speaker 2: Joe Biden lying to us back in June? I think
Speaker 2: he was. I think that he knew that when he
Speaker 2: said there's no way he's going to pardon his son,
Speaker 2: he knew he was not telling the American people the truth. Now, again,
Speaker 2: circumstances change over time. But I said last night, and
Speaker 2: I'll say again, that he should have been much more
Speaker 2: cautious about what he said, and he should have said, look,
Speaker 2: this is a situation that I'm not going to contemplate
Speaker 2: until after the election. That's he at that point when
Speaker 2: he was first asked that question. So just going to
Speaker 2: open it up. Who else should Joe Biden pardon? I
Speaker 2: don't think this is the end of it. I think
Speaker 2: that the president, if he has competent legal counsel, is
Speaker 2: going to be told that there are others members of
Speaker 2: his family. There's been suggestions that one of his brothers
Speaker 2: might have been somehow involved. I don't know the extent
Speaker 2: to which any of that is true, but it would
Speaker 2: seem to me that if he's looking to protect his
Speaker 2: son from a Justice department run by a Trump appointee,
Speaker 2: you exercise the same diligence and caution to other members
Speaker 2: of his family. In my opinion, I have no idea
Speaker 2: what the interpersonal relationship is between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: I assume it's not particularly good. Certainly would seem uh.
Speaker 2: And once Donald Trump steps into the White House and
Speaker 2: Joe Biden steps out of the White House for good,
Speaker 2: Joe Biden's presidential powers cease immediately as soon as Donald
Speaker 2: Trump puts his hand on the Bible and swears the
Speaker 2: oath of office. Six one seven, two, five, four ten
Speaker 2: thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Feel
Speaker 2: free to join the conversation. Also, I don't know if
Speaker 2: any of you still use the triple eight number. Triple
Speaker 2: eight nine two nine, ten thirty. We're talking pardons and
Speaker 2: feel free. Some of you weren't able to get in
Speaker 2: last night. Just give you an opportunity. Open up these
Speaker 2: phone lines. We'll be right back on night Side. This
Speaker 2: is a quick break, so we'll call quickly. Coming back
Speaker 2: on knights Side.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios, WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Or let's go to the call. Six one seven, two
Speaker 2: five four ten thirty. Those lines are full six one
Speaker 2: seven nine three one ten thirty. Both of those lines
Speaker 2: are open. Let me start it off with Archie in Sagus. Archie,
Speaker 2: you were first tonight.
Speaker 7: On Hi the.
Speaker 2: Yep, go right ahead.
Speaker 5: He did the right kind of a right thing, even
Speaker 5: though I don't support it. Biden did the right thing
Speaker 5: by it because you don't want another.
Speaker 8: Shore.
Speaker 5: But Bien, uh, you know it's going to take a
Speaker 5: long time and on their tack face experenses, what is that?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying to follow you. So let me let
Speaker 2: me stick let me stick with it here. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: he you you agree that the president did the right thing,
Speaker 2: but tell me why you feel he did that.
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 5: Personally, I don't think he did the right thing, but
Speaker 5: I agree with the decision because that we are going
Speaker 5: to have another a big kind of a legal battle
Speaker 5: on a taxpayers expenses for years, same as they did
Speaker 5: to the Trump.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying that by pardoning his son, that's
Speaker 2: going to save the taxpayer's money. That was his motivation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all what I'm done with, and so we
Speaker 5: don't have to worry about it and call it a day.
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you were not lose, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, let me ask you this. A lot of people,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people in this country who end
Speaker 2: up in jail for for relatively minor crimes, including oftentimes
Speaker 2: young people who may not have the privilege of having
Speaker 2: your dad the president of the United States. Does this,
Speaker 2: in your mind prove that we have a two tier
Speaker 2: system of justice.
Speaker 5: Sometimes there's an exception because he's the president and he's
Speaker 5: in a high rank.
Speaker 8: To do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's assume that Donald Trump's one of Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's children got into a similar problem. Donald Trump or
Speaker 2: one of you know, Donald Trump, Donald Trump Junior, or
Speaker 2: one of the other you know, Trump children. Would you
Speaker 2: feel the same way if Trump Donald a president, Donald
Speaker 2: Trump pardoned his.
Speaker 10: Son, I feel the same way, because there is sometimes
Speaker 10: the thing has to be done man in a different.
Speaker 11: Way because of the situation, rather than you know, there
Speaker 11: you have to admit that if the president and the
Speaker 11: next person who's coming in Trump is going to be
Speaker 11: a president, you don't want the rest of the worst
Speaker 11: to look at it and say, hey, this guy's doing
Speaker 11: this and that.
Speaker 12: And the other thing is uh, it would be nice
Speaker 12: your Biden turned around and say, buying the dollars Trump
Speaker 12: for any kind of things that you have done in
Speaker 12: the bus, even though Trump could do the same thing
Speaker 12: for himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, believe most of those those cases, at least the
Speaker 2: federal cases have at this point been dropped. Archie, appreciate it,
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. A very interesting analysis, quite different
Speaker 2: than mine. But I was interested in your your your logic,
Speaker 2: and there's certainly a consistency to that logic. Thanks Archie,
Speaker 2: appreciate your call.
Speaker 11: Thank you, Dan, You have a wonderful night.
Speaker 2: All right, YouTube, let me go to John in North Carolina. John,
Speaker 2: you were next on Nightside. Who else should Joe Biden pardon?
Speaker 13: Well he should. William have to pardon James because James
Speaker 13: is right in the thick of things.
Speaker 2: That's his brother, that would be his brother, right.
Speaker 13: But to comment on the I guess it was Rachel
Speaker 13: Maddow the clip that you played. Yes, it's really ludicrous
Speaker 13: for these people to be making these to be excusing
Speaker 13: Hunter based on his being addicted to drugs, because I
Speaker 13: dare say, a lot of career criminals are addicted to drugs,
Speaker 13: and it's instead of being an excuse, it's an aggravating
Speaker 13: factor it is.
Speaker 2: It is particularly Yuh. Well, I don't know. Maybe the
Speaker 2: defense lawyers will jump on the idea. Oh you ever know.
Speaker 2: I mean, we may have new legal precedent here. I
Speaker 2: just think it's I just think it's interesting. What I
Speaker 2: am not as bothered. I don't know about you. I'm
Speaker 2: not as bothered by what the president did in terms
Speaker 2: of the part because I think anyone who has a
Speaker 2: child would probably react in a similar fashion. I am
Speaker 2: bothered by the fact that he sat there and lived
Speaker 2: to the American public.
Speaker 13: In June in ju Well, let me comment on that.
Speaker 13: I this idea about well, it's because it's his son.
Speaker 13: You know, I'm reminded of back in the days of
Speaker 13: the Roman Republic, the mothers would tell their sons, you
Speaker 13: either come back with your shield or come back on it.
Speaker 2: So it's a little different. Yeah, I go back a
Speaker 2: long way. I remember hearing those stories. I never covered that,
Speaker 2: by the way as a reporter. Just to make it clear, okay.
Speaker 13: But I had just one more comment about the drug.
Speaker 13: The drug thing. You know, another excuse they're making for
Speaker 13: high is that, well, he's been clean for the past
Speaker 13: five and a half years of drugs. So my question is,
Speaker 13: who's cocaine was that that they found in the White
Speaker 13: House a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't necessarily his if he's been clean, would
Speaker 2: it now?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 2: I mean if you believe yeah, whatever. Well, I mean again,
Speaker 2: my fault with the president is he basically sat there
Speaker 2: at Normandy and someone mentioned it last night. He's sitting
Speaker 2: there in normal in Normandy, you know, which is obviously
Speaker 2: hallowed American ground, although it's in France. A lot of
Speaker 2: American blood was shed there on June sixth, nineteen forty four.
Speaker 2: And I think he lied. I think that he knew
Speaker 2: that when push came to shove, he was going to
Speaker 2: pardon Hunter Biden. I think if if he had stood
Speaker 2: for reelection in one he could have parted the knowing
Speaker 2: that that his he had another four years in the
Speaker 2: White House. If he stepped aside and Harris won the race,
Speaker 2: I'm sure she would have pardoned Hunter Biden. At least
Speaker 2: I believe she would have partnered Hunter Biden as a
Speaker 2: courtesy to Joe Biden. And if she had lost the race.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden was still president for the ballance of November
Speaker 2: December and until January twentieth, So he knew that he
Speaker 2: had this covered no matter what.
Speaker 13: Well, that's the way you would think. But if you
Speaker 13: get into the psychology of a congenital liar like Joe Biden,
Speaker 13: there's no telling how his mind works.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, they do say that people who are
Speaker 2: good liars believe the lies.
Speaker 13: Yeah, so not telling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, John, great to hear your voice as always.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening to us down there in
Speaker 2: North Carolina. By the way, do you get us over
Speaker 2: the year in the radio? Do you get us on
Speaker 2: the internet?
Speaker 13: I get it over the air, which means that it's
Speaker 13: in the winter months that I get the best reception.
Speaker 13: In the summer, it's it's it's hard for me to
Speaker 13: get it.
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, keep listening, okay, I think you think, and
Speaker 2: keep calling. Thanks John, And if I don't chat with
Speaker 2: they have a great Christmas.
Speaker 13: Okay, thanks man, Bye bye John, bye bye.
Speaker 2: Six one seven, two five four ten thirty. Got one
Speaker 2: line there and one line at six one seven nine
Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. And the ladies have been absent tonight,
Speaker 2: and they were absent on this subject last night. I
Speaker 2: don't understand. Maybe women and I don't want to generalize,
Speaker 2: but I would think that women have a strong feeling
Speaker 2: on this. Either they could put themselves in the position
Speaker 2: of a parent and and maybe agreed that the president
Speaker 2: should have pardoned his son, or they can put themselves
Speaker 2: in the position of someone who says, hey, even though
Speaker 2: he pardoned, they would agree with me that he shouldn't
Speaker 2: have lied. I think he should have equivocated in June.
Speaker 2: I think that when David Muir asked him the question,
Speaker 2: will you pardon your son? I think he should have said, Look,
Speaker 2: you're asking me a question, which is a hypothetical question.
Speaker 2: I haven't even considered that. When the time comes, I
Speaker 2: will look at it seriously, and I will make a
Speaker 2: decision that I think is in the interest of justice
Speaker 2: uh and and our legal system. And I would have
Speaker 2: left it at that, but he chose not to. Now again,
Speaker 2: when he said no, he was then a candidate for president.
Speaker 2: He eventually was moved out of that position by the
Speaker 2: poobahs of the Democratic Party. We got the news six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
Speaker 2: thirty six, seven ninety. That's filled the lines up. Coming
Speaker 2: back on night Side.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b
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Speaker 2: Okay, back to the calls. We're going to go next
Speaker 2: to Paul in Pennsylvania. Paul, you were next to Nightside Welcome.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, great show. Yeah, I'm going on and uh,
Speaker 8: he hit the bail right in hand. When when President
Speaker 8: Biden was interviewed back in June or whatever it was,
Speaker 8: he as far as he knew, he was going to
Speaker 8: be the writing for president. And I think a lot
Speaker 8: of circumstances changed, and you're right, he quitted, equivocated, and
Speaker 8: he came out with a direct answer. But I think that,
Speaker 8: you know, with his knowledge at the time of what
Speaker 8: was going to happen, I think he gave what answer
Speaker 8: he thought.
Speaker 2: Did I lose you there, Paul, No, I'm here, Okay,
Speaker 2: finished that that comment. I think you dropped off for
Speaker 2: just a second. You were saying he equivocated what.
Speaker 8: He gave his answer back in June, and I believe
Speaker 8: that's what he believed at the time. He wasn't going
Speaker 8: to part the sun. He thought he was gonna be
Speaker 8: rinning for president. And you know, a lot of things
Speaker 8: changed in the last six months, like you said, and.
Speaker 2: So you you think you think that he was telling
Speaker 2: the truth in June.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think he had any any uh, foresight
Speaker 8: of what was gonna happen with the debate. I don't
Speaker 8: think he had any idea his own party was going
Speaker 8: to force him to step down. I don't think he's
Speaker 8: saw for slighting those things.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you this, Uh. Did you
Speaker 2: did you vote for him in twenty twenty, No, I
Speaker 2: did not.
Speaker 8: I voted for President Trump. But on the other hand,
Speaker 8: don't Dan, I don't want President Trump next I wonder
Speaker 8: for President Trump this time too, but I don't want
Speaker 8: to see his whole next term, President Trump retribution tour,
Speaker 8: where he's gonna get back and everybody to try to
Speaker 8: put him in president believe.
Speaker 2: Oh, I couldn't have. I couldn't. I agree with you totally.
Speaker 2: And the reason is the more time that he spends
Speaker 2: on what you call the retribution tour, uh, the less
Speaker 2: time that he's spending on policy uh and on on
Speaker 2: decisions that can can change the direction of the country
Speaker 2: and theoretically helped the American people, whether it's tightening up
Speaker 2: the border or whether it's looking at what we have
Speaker 2: to do to be better prepared militarily, how we're going
Speaker 2: to deal with the the arrival of artificial intelligence, and
Speaker 2: are we behind other countries around the world all of that. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I agree with you totally. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: I can't believe that Joe Biden was not thinking in June,
Speaker 2: hey maybe I'll run, maybe I'll win. If he won,
Speaker 2: he then could pardon. He could say, hey, I was
Speaker 2: supported by the American people, I'm pardoning my son, and
Speaker 2: there was there would be no cost for him because
Speaker 2: he then would have four more years if if he lost,
Speaker 2: let us say and and and he was the nominee,
Speaker 2: he then has the two and a half months to say, okay,
Speaker 2: before I leave, what am I going to do? There
Speaker 2: will be other pardons. I don't know if they will
Speaker 2: be related to Hunter Biden or to his family, but
Speaker 2: I think he may want to at least be thinking
Speaker 2: about that at this point, don't you.
Speaker 8: What happened is when transpired in the last six months.
Speaker 8: I think he really got bushwhacked, you know, between the
Speaker 8: debate and them telling him to drop out and everything,
Speaker 8: and and like you said, Dan, like in Brazil that
Speaker 8: President Lula, he was actually in prison and he gets
Speaker 8: out now he wants to put Bolson there on prison.
Speaker 8: I don't want to live in the coutpy like that. Dad.
Speaker 8: I don't think you have to either.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. I think that I've said for you know,
Speaker 2: if you listen to the show regularly. I don't want
Speaker 2: us to turn into a Banana republic. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: what they do in Banana republics.
Speaker 8: I want President Trump to concentrate the policy and make
Speaker 8: this a better country for MEU and whoever voted for
Speaker 8: President Biden or Harris or whoever else.
Speaker 2: Everyone he's the president. He will be the president on
Speaker 2: January twentieth for everyone, whether they like, whether people like
Speaker 2: it or not. I mean, you know, they don't have
Speaker 2: to they don't have to agree to that. But there's
Speaker 2: only one president at the time. Joe Biden is the
Speaker 2: president of the country. Now, he's my president. He's your president.
Speaker 2: Simple as that, right the way. Thanks, Thanks, Paul, appreciate.
Speaker 8: You, rank you, Dad.
Speaker 2: Thank you a good night. Six one seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Next up is Craig in Ohio. Craig, welcome back. How
Speaker 2: are you Craig?
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 14: I just got two things I'm tired of here, and
Speaker 14: did you know his child. He's a fifty four year
Speaker 14: old man, you know, Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 14: And you know in seven or eight months he's going
Speaker 14: to be grouped up again. Guarantee it.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't know. I mean, you might be right,
Speaker 2: you might be wrong, but none of us can we
Speaker 2: can we can speculate on the future. We can't predict
Speaker 2: the future. Maybe he will just go off quietly. And
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess he could become a lobbyist,
Speaker 2: no question about that. I mean, I'm sure that he
Speaker 2: could work for any of the Democratic lobbying groups his
Speaker 2: you know he will. He will have some influence. I
Speaker 2: guess he is his father on your Well, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean he could. Look I think I actually, I
Speaker 2: think I'm going to revise and revoke my remarks here because,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, you're probably right. But he'll
Speaker 2: end up something. There will be some law firm that
Speaker 2: will take him in. I guarantee you that, I guarantee
Speaker 2: you that that there will be some primarily democratic law
Speaker 2: firm that will take him in and shelter him for
Speaker 2: the for the next ten or so years. And yeah,
Speaker 2: he'll write a maybe he'll write a book. Who knows.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think is going to be homeless. Greg.
Speaker 14: I mean, yeah, that's true. But uh, I just get
Speaker 14: tired of hearing his child his child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you if you have any kids
Speaker 2: or no.
Speaker 14: No, I lost my son that game to go.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that. I that's a tough one.
Speaker 2: That's a tough one, Craig.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 2: But I think any parent, you know, once someone said
Speaker 2: to me that you'll always be your son's parent until
Speaker 2: the day you die. And I understand that, and I
Speaker 2: suspect that, you know, Joe Biden would have given up
Speaker 2: a lot of his fame and fortune, h and even
Speaker 2: maybe his presidency if his son never ended up going
Speaker 2: down that path of self destruction.
Speaker 14: I would hope. So. But one last thing, Dan, you know,
Speaker 14: it just seems like people would know too much in Washington.
Speaker 14: D see something happens to him.
Speaker 2: Well, well, there's a lot of people who go to Washington,
Speaker 2: and look, there's a lot of people who end up
Speaker 2: not with a very happy life. A lot of people
Speaker 2: go to Washington, spend the rest of their lives there
Speaker 2: and they retire. Look at Mitch McConnell. I mean, guy,
Speaker 2: he's he's he just kind of There's a lot of
Speaker 2: folks who go along to get along, and I think
Speaker 2: McConnell would be one of them. But you're right, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people who go there and they get
Speaker 2: drunk with power and they make bad decisions. I guess
Speaker 2: they do that in the NBA, the NFL, Major League Baseball,
Speaker 2: and they probably do it in law firms and doctors' offices.
Speaker 14: Oh, everywhere.
Speaker 2: Human beings, human beings fraught as we are. Wait hear
Speaker 2: your voice, come on back more often. And if I
Speaker 2: don't talk, you have a merry Christmas.
Speaker 14: Okay, take care Mary Christmas.
Speaker 2: Also all right, thanks, thanks, great good night. Let me
Speaker 2: go to Paul and Dorchester. Paul, you were next on Nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 8: Hey, thanks Dan.
Speaker 7: You know, I am sorry to disagree with the other Paul,
Speaker 7: but their retribution to her. I had three years of
Speaker 7: Adam Shift coming down like the cat that swallowed the canary,
Speaker 7: saying he's got that, but in he's got this, and
Speaker 7: every day I had to listen to that for three years,
Speaker 7: and then to see them live before Congress. There's gotta
Speaker 7: be some accountability. There's not can be like, oh, forget
Speaker 7: about it, because it's like that the Republicans got like
Speaker 7: like like no, uh, you know, like no manhood teams.
Speaker 7: We go after him, and and you know what wawing
Speaker 7: that was done.
Speaker 2: Let me make a suggestion. Okay, if I were Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's lawyer and I'm not or his legal counsel, as
Speaker 2: they would say, I would say, let Congress do whatever
Speaker 2: investigations they want. This should be something that should be
Speaker 2: left to Congress. The present.
Speaker 7: Yeah, somebody's gonna somebody's gotta get I. I three years
Speaker 7: of Adam Shift driving me crazy. I just can't believe
Speaker 7: that they're gonna just forget about it. He lied to
Speaker 7: Congress all that stuff. You know, there's no law against
Speaker 7: Pelosi ripping up a constitution. What trumps you know, uh,
Speaker 7: his plan of action, and that was the most disrespectful
Speaker 7: thing I think I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2: That what you're talking about, specifically was her ripping up
Speaker 2: his State of the Union address and then clapping sarcastically
Speaker 2: in his face right.
Speaker 7: While they were on camera. I mean like, yeah, it
Speaker 7: was so bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I mean there all that she displayed towards
Speaker 2: Donald Trump was I thought repulsive at the time. I
Speaker 2: said it at the time, I would have felt the
Speaker 2: same way if it was if if Mike Johnson, the
Speaker 2: Republican Speaker of the House, uh, did the same thing
Speaker 2: to I mean if to a to a President Harris
Speaker 2: had she been elected, or to a President Biden. It
Speaker 2: just unacceptable.
Speaker 7: One last point, Damp. They impeaced President Trump for what
Speaker 7: Biden pardons his son fall. He made a phone call
Speaker 7: to Zelenski about investigating Ukraine, and he was in peace
Speaker 7: for that. And Biden had a punish, Uh, he had
Speaker 7: a part in him for that crime that that Trump
Speaker 7: there was right to be investigated at the time, and
Speaker 7: he was in peace for it. There was so much wrong, Dan.
Speaker 7: It's not a retribution to her. It's called the it
Speaker 7: was called weaponization of the of the FBI, the Justice Department,
Speaker 7: the Department. There's just so much, Dan, that the fish
Speaker 7: rots from the head down.
Speaker 2: Well that that is that is a phrase that Mike Dukaka,
Speaker 2: is a Democrat presidential candidate, often invoked. So, yeah, I
Speaker 2: agree with you on that. And there was law fair, uh.
Speaker 2: In my in my opinion, there were things that Donald
Speaker 2: Trump did which were in my opinion, really dumb. I
Speaker 2: mean when when he held all of those documents at
Speaker 2: mar Lago in uh In after after his presidency. I
Speaker 2: just think that was a mistake.
Speaker 7: That was at least authority was vice president. He had
Speaker 7: no authority to do all that.
Speaker 2: I understand that. But but when the FBI comes calling
Speaker 2: and they're looking for documents, as as a lawyer, you say, look,
Speaker 2: we're going to turn the documents over. We're going to
Speaker 2: ask that a court audit order that they be kept
Speaker 2: under seal was to decide whether or not you in
Speaker 2: fact have the right to keep those documents. And we'll
Speaker 2: go through each and every document. But that way you
Speaker 2: don't get yourself indicted.
Speaker 7: As as he But they showed up at people's houses.
Speaker 7: They showed up at old man's houses in the middle
Speaker 7: of the night with swat teams. They got people out
Speaker 7: of bed. It was so unnecessary all this.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely true on that. How much of that you
Speaker 2: can trace the Joe Biden, or how much of that
Speaker 2: you can trace the Merrick Garland, or how much of
Speaker 2: that you can trace to Christopher Ray of the FBI.
Speaker 2: We'll have to find out.
Speaker 7: Paul Lejoe Biden was the head and the fish rots
Speaker 7: from the head down.
Speaker 2: All right, you got the final word. Appreciate you call Paul,
Speaker 2: Thank you much, Thanks Dan, have a great night. All right,
Speaker 2: So I got ten minutes left here, I get some
Speaker 2: open lines six one seven, two four ten thirty, six
Speaker 2: one seven, nine three ten thirty. Feel free to join
Speaker 2: the conversation. The question is tonight. In my opinion, the
Speaker 2: question I'm trying to ask is in view of the
Speaker 2: fact that the president has pardoned his son Hunter, who
Speaker 2: else in his administration should he pardon? We had a
Speaker 2: former Watergate prosecutor, prosecutor who was very pleased and happy
Speaker 2: that Hunter Biden has pardoned, suggesting that the president, and
Speaker 2: by the way, she's the supporter of the president, needs
Speaker 2: to preemptively maarden, meaning Joe Biden pardoned Hunter Biden for
Speaker 2: crimes that he had been convicted for. This former Watergate
Speaker 2: prosecutor wants Joe Biden to preemptively pardon, amongst others, Jack Smith,
Speaker 2: the prosecutor of Donald Trump, as well as maybe Joe
Speaker 2: Biden himself. Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
Speaker 2: six one seven, nine, ten thirty. Feel free to join
Speaker 2: the conversation. I'm here for you. I hope you're here
Speaker 2: for me coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nice Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We'll let us keep rolling, going to go to Joe
Speaker 2: and Belmont. Joe, welcome back. How are you tonight, sir?
Speaker 15: Good? Uh, Merry Christmas, Dan.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you. Joe as well.
Speaker 15: I don't think President Trump should seek revenge against the
Speaker 15: deep state because in the Bible it says revenge is mind,
Speaker 15: says the Lord.
Speaker 2: That's good point, Joe. I'm not sure how much of
Speaker 2: a Bible reader Donald Trump is, but he certainly should
Speaker 2: keep that in mind.
Speaker 15: I know he supports the evangelicals, but you know what
Speaker 15: he says and does the two different things.
Speaker 2: Whatever. I think you're right, you're right on that. Who
Speaker 2: else should Joe Biden pardon? You think that's it for
Speaker 2: Joe Biden's pardons or do you think that he should
Speaker 2: pardon some others? Well?
Speaker 15: I think you know, law comes before family. But if
Speaker 15: I was Joe Biden and I had a son, I
Speaker 15: would be human and I would pardon my son, whether
Speaker 15: it was right or wrong.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's an honest, honest answer, Joe, I
Speaker 2: really appreciate your candor as always, Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2: We will talk soon and hopefully we'll talk before Christmas.
Speaker 15: Okay, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. Right back at you, good night. Let me
Speaker 2: go to David in New Hampshire. David, you were next
Speaker 2: time nights. I go right ahead.
Speaker 8: Hey, Joe, nice to see you. Nice to talk to you.
Speaker 11: Joe just left.
Speaker 2: I'm Dan, I'm the guy you call and go ahead.
Speaker 14: Sorry, Joe.
Speaker 5: I agree with Joe like I mean, you know, every
Speaker 5: parent protects their child, but is it is it politically
Speaker 5: correct in this situation?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't have I mean, the fact that he
Speaker 2: pardoned his son doesn't surprise me, but it bothers me
Speaker 2: that he lied about it.
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: You know. That's where I come down. And he could
Speaker 2: have easily said, you know, I haven't even contemplated that question.
Speaker 2: There was still I think some open issues at that time.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what his situation will be as
Speaker 2: we go forward, and I will deal with that issue
Speaker 2: as it comes up, and I'm not going to keep
Speaker 2: an open mind. I would have put it like that.
Speaker 5: And every parent will always protect their child, no matter
Speaker 5: what situation it is. Would be in that position. Shouldn't
Speaker 5: do you believe that? Is that?
Speaker 8: That?
Speaker 14: It is?
Speaker 8: It is correct that he did that.
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that one as well. David.
Speaker 2: Appreciate your call. I'm going to get one more in
Speaker 2: before the night comes to a close. Thanks so much
Speaker 2: for call more often. Okay, thanks, thank you, Bye bye.
Speaker 2: Mary is in Arlington. Mary, you may wrap the hour
Speaker 2: for us here.
Speaker 9: Go ahead, Mary, No, I'm calling about situation with Joe
Speaker 9: Biden around the air.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Mary, this is Dan Ray.
Speaker 9: Are you doing thinking? I don't. I don't mind Joe
Speaker 9: Biden partting his son. The thing is it was it
Speaker 9: was opposite.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 9: Dan Ray, do not.
Speaker 8: Trump doing it.
Speaker 9: It will be no problem. But I'm thinking it. I
Speaker 9: know Joe lied to the American people right and said, hey.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna he said, he said, I will not pardon him,
Speaker 2: they said. When he was asked me your pardon, me
Speaker 2: said no, that is that.
Speaker 7: That's totally correct.
Speaker 9: But I much better have the president lying to me
Speaker 9: versus the President sitting me in the Oval office in
Speaker 9: January six and saying, hey, I had nothing to do
Speaker 9: with this.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that that's fine, and I'm so glad you
Speaker 2: called it we should called earlier, but I'm flat out
Speaker 2: of time.
Speaker 9: Thanks Mary, don't worry.
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