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Speaker 4: Lots that we talked about, talked about just to recap
a little bit.
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into some Kline satake sound Cam Clark joined us to
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t the only basketball program in the state that's still playing.
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Speaker 5: Today, brother, what's that man? How are you. I'm great.
Speaker 3: I'm doing good man. Let's get right into springball. Actually,
I'll get your thoughts.
Speaker 4: On this really quickly.
Speaker 3: BYU women's basketball, the only team in the state still
playing basketball. Look, if they beat Inford on Thursday, they
go to the semi finals with an opportunity to go
to the finals and they'll be in Wichita, Kansas. I
just think Lee Kamard has done a great job with
this team.
Speaker 4: In his first year.
Speaker 3: He tied Jeff Jenkins for the most wins by a
first year head coaching program history last night.
Speaker 5: That's great. Sounds like we need to allocate some money
that director.
Speaker 3: Look, all I gotta say is this Delaney Gibb. You
know you're gonna have to resign her and then Olivia Hamlin.
They got a good roster. Just like with BA football players,
they show up, shot, you gotta maintain. It's all about
retention these days in the world of in iol. All right,
that's off the table, listing.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Hey, let me let me let me on
one comment on this re signing thing. So I'm gonna
leave the player's name out. I was chatting with the
player of basketball and it struck me that and he
read shroud it.
Speaker 5: This year and I was having a conversation.
Speaker 1: With him and he was talking about resigning his contract.
Speaker 5: I wasn't sure if he was gonna resign, and.
Speaker 1: Bro, it blows my mind that you can come to
a school, collect money, red shirt and then have the
ability to renegotiate the contract and maybe not even come back.
So you got paid to red shirt, but you might
not even come back the next year. I just can't
understand this process that's going on. There's got to be
something in place here soon where there are expectations of players,
like if you're gonna come in and you're gonna collect
a check and red shirt, you got to give us
some one more year, right, I mean that, I just
couldn't believe that that that's even on the table for
people to renegotiate a contract after a red shirt year
and then maybe leave, you know, after collecting money for
the whole year.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense to me and I at
some point, some groundwork needs to be really laid out
for this nil transfer portal option.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I keep going back to the thought if the NBA
or the NFL well had the ability and each player
had the ability to renegotiate their contract at the end
of every single year.
Speaker 5: We wouldn't even have a league, you know.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't follow teams anymore, you'd follow players because that's
all there are is players going everywhere, and every team
would be different every year.
Speaker 5: And I feel like that's what we're going to.
Speaker 1: Deal with with BYU basketball, you know, is that you
and any sport, you know, you have that unless you
have a system and a set like Kilanie is running
with the football team, where you set a standard and
you're bringing guys in that are buying into the process
instead of buying into the check, you know. And I
feel like we're basketball is going to run a real
tight line here for a while if we continue to
just bring people in for the check and for the
expectation of the win versus buying into a culture. And
I think that's what Kevin Young needs to start focusing
on as a culture. Start looking at why Kilani's players
are coming back, why they aren't transferring out, why the
best players here aren't out seeking bigger contracts, are negotiating
their their their deal to stay here, that's.
Speaker 5: Their goal, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think that that although we had these high
expectations going to this year, and had it worked, you know,
without the injuries and things and and panned out the
way that everybody dreamed it would, it maybe would be different.
But I think the long term positive effects are to
build a culture that people want to play.
Speaker 3: In culture over paycheck. As I'm taking away and listening,
it's it's difficult. Look, basketball parameters are not football. I
always reiterate this, and I'll continue to preach this. I
can I only have to play for one year in
basketball and I'm gone football I have to play for three.
So I think that are already pigeonholes you and handicaps
you a little bit as well. So but nothing beach
culture does any today. People always say this. With a job,
people quit either a supervisor or they leave for a
better opportunity. And when they quit a supervisor, they quit
a job, they're quitting the culture because they probably don't
like their co workers, they don't valued and things like that.
And you see that as as we discussed earlier in
the show. You know that it's crazy just how quickly
you know, kids jump in. But yeah, I'm I'm I
think the re signing every year, regardless of what sport.
Speaker 5: That is.
Speaker 4: That's crazy to me.
Speaker 3: I wish I could negotiate my my paycheck every single
year of Hey, you know I did this much for
the podcast?
Speaker 4: Can I get more? I love to do that, But
that's just not that.
Speaker 1: We guess what would happen if we did that? Hey,
thank you, we can't afford you. We're gonna move on,
you know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel that it's it's it's tough.
Speaker 3: All I got to say is I'm grateful that I
don't have to make those decisions. And uh, I report
on what how the how it goes, So we will
we will definitely see hopefully. I just you hope that
that the basketball team doesn't have six season ending injuries
like last.
Speaker 1: And at some point I think it's advantageous for for
everyone to know what these contracts are.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of confused that. But why most of them
are hidden?
Speaker 3: You know, we don't private university, they don't have to
necessarily do that. The reason, yeah, the by US a
private and U university, they don't have to tell you anything.
Speaker 1: They can create The public.
Speaker 3: Universities can opt out if they want to. But you
got a lot of information from public university that you
do they just choose not to deliver that they're saying
yes or no. BUYU is not obligated by any law
or anything to say anything because.
Speaker 5: I just think the NCAA needs to step in.
Speaker 1: I agree with you to if that's some ground rules
for how this process.
Speaker 4: Works, yep, because the free for all is a CBA.
Speaker 3: They need something, they need something to negotiate. And look,
I said this was my biggest thing. My biggest gripe was, Hey,
look I think it's great to pay players.
Speaker 4: I think that's a great thing. They should. They work
really hard to put in a lot of time.
Speaker 3: But if that's the case, then you have to treat
them like professional athletes and everything that comes with that,
like if they if they make a mistake, then they
can get bounced. If coaches don't perform in a year
and you're saying, all right, make a change, Look, I
think all of that's. All of that's now on the
table when you when you treat it like a business,
then they have to it all has to be acted
like a business. But in that same breath, this is
the problem now because they didn't have rules.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you sign a contract, you have to fulfill
the content you otherwise there's penalties. And what we're seeing
is guys don't have to fulfill the contract and they
leave and there's no penalty, you know. And so I
see there are some universities that are starting to throw
out penalties and trying, but they're having to go through
court to try to get these and but they're legal contracts.
And I just think that that if if the groundwork
is set, should have been in the beginning obviously, but
where we're at now, they just need to have some
ground rules set where I mean, the transfer portal has shrunk,
you know, where they only have limited time. That that helps,
but I think that there is some.
Speaker 3: And if you're a transferportal player, you're only going to
impact right away. You're not going to you're going for
more playing time or you're an impact player.
Speaker 4: I feel like, well, that's what it is.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: What I see too, is is that the guy who
transfers in is more likely to transfer out than the
freshman who's been here for two years. You know that
you start to see this this trajectory of guys transferring once,
the likelihood of them transferring twice and a third time
is extremely high. Even said at by you. Typically they're
on their second or third transfer.
Speaker 4: True, Darius Lassiter came from you know, to Miami. Exactly.
Look at Harrison Taggard.
Speaker 3: Uh No, I mean I did the math right after
Darius Lasher and Keeling like came in, Jared, I think
the average kid transfers looking at the number one point
eight or nine times. So that's two times that a
college athlete's gonna transfer these days before they find their home.
You look at Keeling, you look at Harrison tagger already
mentioned a couple. Obviously Darius came over like that's how
it is. And obviously the Jake Retz laughs, guy guys
and Darius are differently playing Juko and coming up.
Speaker 4: I feel like those are different.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, I, you know, in the
way of nil like I still bring it up of
I thought you shouldn't let kiln Mary and walk out
of the door.
Speaker 4: You needed him, and look what happened, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's three I mean only exactly it wasn't. I mean,
he wasn't MORI I guess because he didn't run a
four to two seven, you know. And again I'm being
tongue in cheek when I say that but I'm being
serious in the same breadth of like that, like I
feel like that could have helped to be why you know,
it might not have been an end all deal, but
I believe, I don't know. I firmly believe having played sports,
Jared talking to me about that, as we've watched, when
a guy's on the field, you have to game plan
for that if you know what guy's gonna play, and
that just changes how a defense does the same in basketball,
right when when certain players out double that guy, Okay,
it's way easier that receivers out double this guy.
Speaker 1: That's just not what the Texas coach said, how you
when he was asked, how are you going to stop?
Speaker 5: Stop? We're not, but we're gonna stop it.
Speaker 3: He said, oh no, you just can't let him get
you in foul trouble and then it's over. But he's like, no,
we're not. We can't stop that guy, but everybody else
we could stop.
Speaker 1: What a great game plan. You know, look all year
stopping this guy. You know, we if we can't stop Agent,
but we stopped the other four on the court, they
can't win.
Speaker 5: It's true and and that's the truth, and that's kind
of what you know.
Speaker 3: You think about the injuries and maybe other things, but no,
all important things. But look, we're in a crazy day
and you know we talked about around about it in
the early days. I think something's coming down the pipe.
By I don't know what, but I do agree to
your one point. I am a fan of this because
this is how I am. If you've agreed to something,
especially written on paper or contract, and you go leave,
Look I'll say this, if another school wants you and
they're willing to pay the buyout like coaches, I got
no issue with that.
Speaker 4: That all should be written in, no problem.
Speaker 3: But if you're just gonna up and leave and says no,
they want to pay me more you signed, especially if
you've taken money for sure, even if you haven't, I
still frown upon all of that, Like you agreed, and
there's just no college athletics is all transactional now, there's
nothing transformation.
Speaker 4: And I think that's.
Speaker 3: Why to your point, people like BYU and I think
it's a lot more attractive and becoming a lot more
because it's like, oh, it's not just yes, you're getting
your market rate, but it's more than just that, you're
building your future for the entire lifetime. You get to
be with people that you care about, that you love.
Like I caught it with traycon Borgae at practice yesterday
and Trayson said, I had opportunities to go and leave.
I could have done that, and we'll put an interview tomorrow,
you know, on Wednesday, but he said no, like I
wanted to be at BYU. It's bigger than just you know,
it's a football. It was just football exactly, Like, it's
not just about money. You can't He's like, that's going
to come and go. But if you just look at
it from that standpoint, He's like, I just don't think
that's the right way to go. And I think what
you hear from the players, not us, not you know,
not you the form player, not me the medium, when
they hear from the actual players playing in this day
and age, especially Trason who's not a member of the church,
who has no reason to bring this up.
Speaker 4: Hey, I want to be here for this purpose. I
think that's great.
Speaker 3: I think that's what that's why I want to highlight
that stuff for that particular purpose.
Speaker 4: So I think that's a very valid point.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think we're we're creating a culture that
they start to see that even after BYU, the relationships
that you've built here will continue on as the opportunities
in business, the opportunities down the line. Because you were
an athlete at BYU, that opens doors as well. And
I think that that's starting to play into a little
bit more of just you know, keeping people here and
understanding that there we do build a culture that has
opportunities down the line and people people from b why
you remember who you are and want to give you
the opportunity to either grow your business or or give
you the opportunity to run a business or to be
employed by them man.
Speaker 5: And so there's a lot more opportunity.
Speaker 1: And I think that the mindset is a little more
open here at BYU than it is in some of
the other schools as well.
Speaker 3: Not wrong, and I think that's why Killine's thriving and
this culture is succeeding for sure.
Speaker 4: I heard from multiple people.
Speaker 3: I will continue to ask the members of the football team,
but specifically those who aren't of the faith why they
are here, because look, in the world of everything going on,
I'm serious, Evan Johnson, don't need to be here if
you don't want to Jason Boorg.
Speaker 4: You don't need to be here if they don't want to.
Speaker 3: And that's not a shot, but that's just me pointing
out and painting the perspective and a picture of why
guys want to be here, and that it's bigger than
just Okay, I'm getting everything that I've worked hard for
the return on investment. It's bigger than just you know,
setting my family up financially for the future. It's I'm
setting myself up for life relationships, good people.
Speaker 4: And you see that, and I love what you know
they're doing.
Speaker 3: And I hope that for all programs across BA Athletics,
not just one. I hope that for the Tire universe,
and I think Shane Reyson, Keith working all of those
do a great job of leading and guiding.
Speaker 4: Hopefully.
Speaker 1: I think we're the focus on recruiting the right kids
is there too, Absolutely no.
Speaker 5: It's it's not just the best athletes, it's the right kids.
Speaker 4: The right athlete who can be the best.
Speaker 1: Athletes that are going to come in and are going
to buy into the program and are going to want
to put in the time and stay yeah and earn
earn their opportunities to start.
Speaker 3: Well when you hear from Kalanie. I mean you've heard
from klannie a Rod Jay Hill when he was here.
Uh And what did they say? They said, if a
kid starts off a conversation with an il, that's that's
not how it goes. We don't talk about planning time
or we recruit, we don't talk about nil. That's not
how we pitch. And you see that and you can
see that in the athletes. Look, football is not perfect,
basketball is not perfect, soccer whateveryone. Looks like there's going
to be some bad apples here and that's a part
of it.
Speaker 4: That's life. There's gonna be those individuals.
Speaker 3: And look, I say this, I think those individuals will
see what it's about and not like it and they'll
weed themselves out. That's kind of how I look at it.
They will say, let me leave because I'm not doing ayz.
I don't think it has nothing to do with the
culture and those I think it's those individuals that they.
Speaker 4: Don't like the direction that it's headed.
Speaker 3: And they might have a different agendas, I like to say,
and that agenda just doesn't line up.
Speaker 4: And that's okay.
Speaker 3: There are places where your jenda does line up, but
it's not going to be here at b YU. Let's
get into springball talk now. I want to ask you this.
You're way too early. Why receivers coming out of springball?
We had asked a Rod, because there's no transport window
I think for spring, so the depth chart. But I've
heard a handful of names of talk to Trason, he said, legend,
we know Kyler, Casper, JoJo's on the list. Tatanakua has
been mentioned a bunch. But look, I like the Pula kid.
From your standpoint, who you're going with? Who are the
three or the four you think if they were if
they were to release it too deep? Who's coming out?
I guess as those starting three out of springball in
a week or so.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think that a Rod, I think
I was talking the other day and he said, you know,
we really don't run the two deep when it comes
to receivers because it's who can who who can play
and make a play on this particular.
Speaker 5: Drive said, I'm just the right guy to make this play.
Speaker 1: And I think there's like six guys in that receiver
room that have unique abilities that can make different plays
at different times.
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be really.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Taana Kum, he's standing out to me,
and I think he's forcing the hand, you know, to
get some playing time.
Speaker 5: You know, JoJo's going to get a lot of catches
this year and get a lot of opportunity. Uh and
and it just there's just a handful of guys in
there that that are ready to go. And I think
it's great.
Speaker 1: You know, usually it's three, three or four guys that
you know are the go to guys. I think we
have five or six guys that can compete and actually
get playing time every game, which which is cool as
a coach because you're situational. You have options like this
guy is great and third and long, we need a quick,
quick hitter, you know, a with the middle screen or something,
we can use this guy, you know. So having that
handful of guys that you can use now, I do
think once the season starts, a few of these guys
are really going to stand out above the other ones.
But I do think that there's still gonna be a
good five or six guys that get a consistent amount
of playing time and really have opportunities to show.
Speaker 5: But but there's always a few that stand out.
Speaker 1: You know that are gonna but right now I think
there's there those five or six, I have a pretty
even playing field and all have that opportunity to be
that one, two or three stand out in the group.
It's just who's gonna make plays, who's gonna get open
and uh and and I think we'll be able to
tell that going into fall camp.
Speaker 5: I really don't think he's going to release a two
D no.
Speaker 4: You know they say that, but they're not going to no.
Speaker 1: No, because there's you know, we've got three on the
field that most times there's three receivers. And then with
with these two excellent tight ends that we have coming
in and I'm telling you, man.
Speaker 3: Robert Robert and I'll walk and they've raved a bottom
Klonie and a Rob BOLTI media visions.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so I and I spent some time talking
with Kevin Gilbrad the other day and I think I
mentioned it on Friday, But Kevin knows NFL talent. You know,
he's spent around the NFL with his dad for his
entire life and coaching the NFL. And when he one
of the best things that he told me about these
two new tight ends is he said they are coachable,
you know, and a lot of times when you get
these high end guys that are big transfers and big
time guys, sometimes their attitude isn't as coachable as maybe
some of the guys that know that they're trying to
fight to get on the field and being hearing from
their position coach that these guys are coachable and their athletes,
and he said, we can have two Carson Ryan's on
the field at the same time.
Speaker 4: You know that privilege in college football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now you've got three wide receivers, two tight ends.
Speaker 5: You know, there's so many options. And then you got
LJ in the backfield.
Speaker 1: You know, you've you've got sim I think that whoever's
putting out those Calcy numbers for for by you to
not make the Big I think there's six percent chance
of winning the Big twelve.
Speaker 5: I need to find out where to place my bet because.
Speaker 4: I have endoor scambling on the airways and will get me.
Speaker 5: If I don't say that it's a it's a monopoly money.
Speaker 4: Monopoly money, okay, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: At any rate, there's the odds out there that they're
putting out there I think are in our favor because
I think this team is going to come out and
really show that that there's a reason everybody came back.
Speaker 4: Look they're going to be in the Big twelve title,
no doubt. And look they're going to have a chance.
Speaker 5: And I'll be there again.
Speaker 3: I think I will be too. I uh, we'll see
if I can get Ben out there. But no, they
they have the positions and needs. I think the biggest
thing you saw was depit tight end, no doubt about it.
I think also having depth, you know, at the receiver
position was something that was also a position to me.
Either are a couple of the things. Linebacker, you know,
guys are dinged up. Uh, and you know the biggest
thing is running back. You know, you gotta have a
bunch of guys to be able to run the ball.
Where you see what Texas ticket they have to it
ends that can line up in the flex out and
catch passes. Then they also had running backs that can
run the ball. So b Yu I think has done
their due diligence with that. So we're gonna see what's
it will happen.
Speaker 1: And I think I think with these receivers too, is
that a lot of well not a lot, but well
they are they aren't all game game tested, right, So
they're processing well, they're performing, they're making plays. But man,
we get in the game. That's why some of these
guys are going to separate themselves. But we need these
guys to be gamers, you know, to get in the game.
Speaker 4: And playmakers immediately, kind of.
Speaker 1: Like what I'm expecting myself next week in the in
them game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a gamer, that's what it is, Cannet. Can I
can I expect a couple of touchdowns? What can I expect?
Speaker 1: No? No, you can't because I can't get hurt because
I'm going to Hawaii four days later.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I are low. I have a play in
mind that I'm going to pass on to coach Bosco.
Speaker 1: I think you need to run and but but I'll
be happy with a catch or two.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm just happy to be out there
and the opportunity to go and throw the ball around
and pretend like we're still super athletes.
Speaker 3: For sure, Jared, before I let you go, tell us
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World of an Il is crazy. The re sign every
year crazy, but yeah wide receivers. Who out of those
five guys will make a name six all can't get
planned time you heard Festi Sataki say it to me
at the golf tournament for the media last year. He
really sticks with three four guys that the max so
will see if that gets extended, And like Herod said,
to meat availability last week. If guys are make us
play you, that's what it is. Can people on this
roster make BYU coaches play them?
Speaker 4: I think you all think you're gonna have a bunch
of people.
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