Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham, The Great America. Welcome this Friday afternoon
Speaker 1: in the tri State, getting ready, of course for Reds
Speaker 1: baseball tonight in Saint Louis. Three games set in Saint Louis,
Speaker 1: and back room for the Yankees. The Yankees are trembling
Speaker 1: about playing the Reds at my ballpark, the Great American,
Speaker 1: and we have a conversation coming up late of the
Speaker 1: Paul O'Neill, who has his foot in both camps. He
Speaker 1: considers himself more of a Yankee because he is a
Speaker 1: minu in and minument park in center field. That's the reason.
Speaker 1: Rather than the Reds. One of the worst trades the
Speaker 1: Reds ever made was trading Paul O'Neill for Roberto Kelly.
Speaker 1: Whatever happened to him. But nonetheless, more important matters are
Speaker 1: a foot right now. Joining you and I now is
Speaker 1: State Representative Cidny Abrams of the West Side of Town
Speaker 1: and Sidney Abrams, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And relative first to the Patrick Herringer situation, who was
Speaker 1: murdered in his home and this can you tell the
Speaker 1: American people at this point there's an investigation under way
Speaker 1: about what happened in the state. You're of your foot
Speaker 1: also in both camps. I don't know how many lawmakers
Speaker 1: have been Cincinnati police officers as you've been and a
Speaker 1: lawmaker somewhat unusual, But who dropped the ball a notifying
Speaker 1: the local authorities about the walking around with a knife
Speaker 1: of Mordecai Block that resulted in the murder of Patrick Herringer.
Speaker 1: What what was the circumstance that happened that caused that
Speaker 1: to occur.
Speaker 2: Well, first of.
Speaker 3: All, thank you for having me on today, and I
Speaker 3: will tell you that when I woke up the next
Speaker 3: morning and I read about, you know, the horrific murder
Speaker 3: of Patrick, I immediately started to ask questions and figure
Speaker 3: out what happened and how can I, as a lawmaker
Speaker 3: make positive change so that this does not happen to
Speaker 3: someone else. Now that being said, to answer your question,
Speaker 3: there's nobody in the General Assembly that was a Cincinnati
Speaker 3: police officer, So there's that. So I went to work
Speaker 3: immediately asking questions. You know, I talked to all all
Speaker 3: the parties involved, and the bottom line is this, and
Speaker 3: I will start by saying this, there are so many
Speaker 3: politicians that just stand around and take pictures with the
Speaker 3: police and say we support you, and but when push
Speaker 3: comes to shove, actions speak louder than words.
Speaker 2: We were all taught that as kids, at least I was.
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, I am not
Speaker 3: just standing around saying, oh, I support you guys and gals.
Speaker 2: I actually take action. So what am I doing? Well,
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 3: I've done some research and I found out that at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, there was no protocol.
Speaker 2: That's what they told me, the Adult par Authority.
Speaker 3: There was no protocol for them to notify that they
Speaker 3: had to notify local law enforcement when they entered the warrant.
Speaker 3: For I call it escape. It's not escape, it's a
Speaker 3: wall or absconding. So when he cut the ankle monitor
Speaker 3: off and decided not to go along with the conditions
Speaker 3: of his release because he was a targeted violent defender
Speaker 3: at CBO, when he walked away and decided he's going
Speaker 3: to to go, you know, live his best life doing
Speaker 3: god knows what, murdering people, that was a violation. So
Speaker 3: at that point, the Adult Pearl Authority has to enter
Speaker 3: the warrant in Leeds, okay. And so what I'm working
Speaker 3: on is it's going to say that the adult parole
Speaker 3: authority shall and you know in the ORC when it
Speaker 3: says shall, that means you have to. There's no other
Speaker 3: way about it. You shall enter that warrant within twenty
Speaker 3: four hours into leeds. And you also shall notify local
Speaker 3: law enforcement of this violent offender on the run. And
Speaker 3: what I mean by local law enforcement your city, your county,
Speaker 3: your township, your village, and the public safety answering point
Speaker 3: which is our communications center. That is the law that
Speaker 3: I'm working on.
Speaker 1: Good more and more Kai Black's case, A little birdie
Speaker 1: told me that he committed numerous felonies in prison in
Speaker 1: the nine and that years he was in prison. In fact,
Speaker 1: he's been locked up seventeen of his last eighteen years
Speaker 1: in prison. That he committed numerous felonies in prison. So
Speaker 1: why wasn't he prosecuted for felonies go over the list?
Speaker 1: Selling and using methanphetamine, shanking inmates, fights in prison, and
Speaker 1: no point in prison was he indicted for those felonies
Speaker 1: which would have kept him longer. Why wasn't he indicted
Speaker 1: for selling meth in prison?
Speaker 2: Well, what I see is he was under the influence
Speaker 2: of hooch.
Speaker 3: He was making who he was fighting he was not
Speaker 3: obeying the guard's orders. He was under the influence of
Speaker 3: K two and so again I'm also looking into that,
Speaker 3: like why wasn't he charged with the additional crime in
Speaker 3: prison and in the correct in the Administrative Code Department
Speaker 3: of Corrections, they can charge him. The question was why
Speaker 3: wasn't he I don't know, maybe make that in law too,
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 2: Tell all right.
Speaker 1: Now another issue, he was out and he cut it
Speaker 1: off within about a month of him being out, he
Speaker 1: cut it off. And to get out, to have the
Speaker 1: ankle monitor put on, he had to identify where is
Speaker 1: he's staying, Who's he's with, who are your friends? Next
Speaker 1: of ken, next of In other words, looking ahead to
Speaker 1: him cutting it off, they would have had his address
Speaker 1: next to Ken, phone numbers, et cetera. People to research.
Speaker 1: He committed a terrible burglary like three weeks before the murder,
Speaker 1: and at that point the victims of the burglary in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati OTR notified the police Mordecai Black is the guy
Speaker 1: that did it, and a no point a CPD say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's find out. Let's go get Mordecai Black. We have
Speaker 1: his last known address, we have his friends and associates,
Speaker 1: he's living in OTR. Why didn't CPD say, okay, we
Speaker 1: got this guy, let's go find him before the murder.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: When you enter a warrant into leads, you have to
Speaker 3: have all their information, So everything about them, named data, birth,
Speaker 3: everything you mentioned. Okay, the crime they're convicted of, everything, Okay,
Speaker 3: And so yes, officially that LEADS that warrant for absconding
Speaker 3: and going a wall was in there at the time
Speaker 3: that they're investigating this other burglary that he was a
Speaker 3: suspect of the issue is this times have changed sadly
Speaker 3: over the last you know, twenty years in law enforcement,
Speaker 3: and they're short staffed.
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when I took the test. There
Speaker 2: were thirty five hundred people there at.
Speaker 3: The convention center to take the test, and they chose
Speaker 3: eighty of us. And so look, there's less young people
Speaker 3: that want to do this job. But what I think
Speaker 3: the biggest issue is is they don't feel law enforcement.
Speaker 2: Our cops don't feel that they're supported.
Speaker 3: So if they go out and again, look at the
Speaker 3: shooting that just happened, right, I'm not going to any
Speaker 3: of the bad guy's names because I'm not gonna give
Speaker 3: them any air. But I tell you that officer waited
Speaker 3: what a month to be cleared.
Speaker 2: For doing your job, doing your job.
Speaker 3: So again I think that they're short staffed. Yes, we
Speaker 3: do have the CIGIC and they have the task force,
Speaker 3: and they go out and round up bad guys and felons.
Speaker 2: But again, like I.
Speaker 3: Said, if this was put notifying them and saying, hey,
Speaker 3: here's what we got, go get them, I think that
Speaker 3: that would we would absolutely prevent that murder.
Speaker 1: Culturally, cops and you were one thirty five hundred for
Speaker 1: eighty spots. Now CPD goes into the community to advertise
Speaker 1: the fact please make an application. And so at this
Speaker 1: point the cops are told directly indirectly, don't be aggressive,
Speaker 1: don't take a handful of warrns. I was told twenty
Speaker 1: years ago the cops would show up, not much going on,
Speaker 1: I take a handful of warns, go find these guys.
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen anymore, right, That's.
Speaker 2: Right, we did that. I mean, whether it's that or
Speaker 2: whether it's stolen cars.
Speaker 3: I mean I remember again back in the day, you
Speaker 3: would tape all the license plates and making models of
Speaker 3: every stolen car that's in the area, so you would
Speaker 3: go look for those two and you had time.
Speaker 1: Don't do that.
Speaker 3: But again, like I said, now, I mean, are you
Speaker 3: supportive when you get a stolen car and get in
Speaker 3: a pursuit of a felon and then they run from
Speaker 3: you and full of gun I.
Speaker 2: Mean that's the question.
Speaker 1: Well, this cop waited six weeks to be cleared, and
Speaker 1: he was on desk duty for a while and the
Speaker 1: message was sent. Was he close to getting indicted? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think Connie Pillach did a good
Speaker 1: job at the news conference and laid it out. But
Speaker 1: the next next time might be a little closer, might
Speaker 1: be quick. You have to make a split second life
Speaker 1: and debt decision. Make the wrong one, your life is over.
Speaker 1: So the law will be called? What to Sidney Abrams?
Speaker 1: What will be the law called? When this thing changes?
Speaker 3: My plan is to name it, of course, with Sarah's permission,
Speaker 3: is to name it after Patrick Patrick Karendra.
Speaker 1: Yeah act and maybe in the future there'll be something
Speaker 1: good and valuable coming of it. Let's talk briefly about
Speaker 1: the Larry Henderson Act. I know law enforcement cares about
Speaker 1: this one too. What would that do Officer Larry Henderson
Speaker 1: who was murdered by the father of the kid that
Speaker 1: was shot in the business of stealing cars. What is
Speaker 1: the Larry Henderson Act.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So again after that horrific, So I thought about, okay,
Speaker 3: what is current law. So, when you are convicted of
Speaker 3: aggravated murder of a law enforcement officer, this is current law.
Speaker 3: Your sentencing choices are death okay, the death bounty, or
Speaker 3: life in prison with parole. And there's you know, you know,
Speaker 3: ten twenty, thirty, forty fifty years where you can come
Speaker 3: up for parole.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So then I thought to myself, first of all, why
Speaker 3: is it only law enforcement officers? You know, we should
Speaker 3: include all of our first responders, right, so every police
Speaker 3: officer right the city, county, od and our corrections troopers,
Speaker 3: everybody including the FEDS, and our first responders are firefighters,
Speaker 3: are emt are paramedic, and our military members. If you
Speaker 3: wear a uniform, this act is going to protect you.
Speaker 3: Someone kills you on purpose, they have a plan, They
Speaker 3: do it on purpose. They're convicted of aggravated murder. Your
Speaker 3: sentencing choices are death or life without parole. I am
Speaker 3: sick and tired of the assault on the people that
Speaker 3: are here keeping us safe every single day.
Speaker 1: Because at this point, if you can I'm a police officer,
Speaker 1: a first responder, someone with the fire department, whatever, you
Speaker 1: can get to life imprisonment, but it doesn't mean without parole.
Speaker 1: In fact, there was a cop killer about ten years
Speaker 1: ago who was paroled and he's now living on the
Speaker 1: beaches of California, which is incredible, and god knows, a
Speaker 1: future governor might say, it's really the death penalty largely
Speaker 1: is unused completely now and people talk about life without
Speaker 1: possibility of parole. But the governor can still issue a pardon.
Speaker 1: And we had Dick Celeste do that in mass about
Speaker 1: thirty years ago, that he took everybody off death row
Speaker 1: and gave them the possibility of parole. But this law
Speaker 1: that Larry Henderson Act would keep that from occurring. Is
Speaker 1: that true? Or could a future governor down the road say, anyway, well,
Speaker 1: even though Sidney Abrams would like to have somebody in
Speaker 1: prison for the rest of their life, after all, this
Speaker 1: guy was young, he was disadvantaged, he's already been serving
Speaker 1: thirty thirty five years and as a consequence, let's pardon him.
Speaker 1: Does that eliminate the governor's part in power.
Speaker 3: No, but I guess the question would have to be asked, like,
Speaker 3: as governor, are you going to live with that when
Speaker 3: they come out and kill again?
Speaker 2: But you have to live with that in my opinion.
Speaker 1: All right now, all you can do is a lawmaker
Speaker 1: is do the law and then whatever the well, it
Speaker 1: is despicable and last night another kid was killed and
Speaker 1: over the rhine last night again every day, and we're
Speaker 1: told by city fathers and mothers they have to have
Speaker 1: pure of all that it's a safe community. You know,
Speaker 1: there's about twenty thousand shots fired every year according to
Speaker 1: shot Spotter in the city of Cincinnati, twenty thousand shots fired,
Speaker 1: only five hundred people are wounded. It's a terrible circumstance.
Speaker 1: It begins with law enforcement. And when there's one cop
Speaker 1: between the Ohio River and North otr at three o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning, that's a problem. And the fact that
Speaker 1: cops are reticent about doing their job because of fear
Speaker 1: of retribution, that's a problem. Let's move to issue number
Speaker 1: two if we can. Tony Bender, many others may have
Speaker 1: a dog and what is the dog bill? I know
Speaker 1: it's called the aver rebill, And what is the dog bill,
Speaker 1: We had some of these vicious pit pulls running around
Speaker 1: biting people, killing people, biting off parts of their body.
Speaker 1: And what does the new dog Bill do if anything?
Speaker 3: Well, so what happened not just down here in Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: but across the state. We had devastating, horrific people that
Speaker 3: were severely injured or killed by these dogs running around
Speaker 3: with no supervision from their owners.
Speaker 2: There was a older woman over in Circleville. She was
Speaker 2: out literally just pulling the weeds in her front garden
Speaker 2: bed and she was mauled to death.
Speaker 3: And so that whenever something horrific happens, of course it
Speaker 3: gets you know, the attention of lawmakers to take a
Speaker 3: look at Okay, now, what are we doing here? And
Speaker 3: what all this comes down to? This personal responsibility. That's
Speaker 3: all it is. You have a dog, you are responsible
Speaker 3: for that dog. And we're not talking about if someone
Speaker 3: is messing with the dog, you know, you're wrestling with
Speaker 3: the dog, or you're provoking it. No, we are talking
Speaker 3: about unprovoked attacks. Just like Avery. She was eleven years old.
Speaker 3: She went over for a playdate at her friend's house
Speaker 3: and these the dogs mauled her so horrifically. She was
Speaker 3: severely injured. She's had multiple surgeries, and let me tell you,
Speaker 3: if you have a few minutes, you need to watch
Speaker 3: Public Safety Committee when she came in and she gave testimony.
Speaker 3: She is a strong twelve year old young lady and
Speaker 3: we are so proud for sharing her story. And so
Speaker 3: what this bill does basically is it holds dog owners
Speaker 3: accountable for unprovoked attacks.
Speaker 2: You're responsible for that dog. If you let it.
Speaker 3: Run around the neighborhood and it bites a running or
Speaker 3: walking or a kid riding its bike, shame on you.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a criminal penalty. You'll have a
Speaker 3: misdemeanor if it's serious injury and I'm one, and if
Speaker 3: it kills, if your dog kills somebody, it's going to
Speaker 3: be a felony of the fourth degree. We're tired of it.
Speaker 3: We're sending a message and it's going to give the
Speaker 3: dog warden the authority to take the dog, and then
Speaker 3: you're going to have due process in court. Every will
Speaker 3: have their court and the judge will declare whether that
Speaker 3: dog's going to be put.
Speaker 2: Down or not.
Speaker 1: So the one bite rule is done. One bite is done.
Speaker 1: A person with a vicious dog is held accountable. You
Speaker 1: buy everything that dog does.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Lastly, head on a lawmaker. It might have been the
Speaker 1: speaker Matt Huffman about a week or two ago. And
Speaker 1: there's a vote we're going to have in Ohio in
Speaker 1: November or in May that will eliminate all real estate
Speaker 1: property taxes. You give the American people a chance to
Speaker 1: eliminate real estate property taxes, they're likely to do it.
Speaker 1: And that means there goes the funding for the schools,
Speaker 1: police and fire, et cetera. And then he said that
Speaker 1: if that goes out the window, that the sales tax
Speaker 1: will be twenty percent. So that means everybody that has
Speaker 1: a big purchase will go to Covington, will go to Batesville,
Speaker 1: they'll get the hell out of Ohio to buy something
Speaker 1: because who's going to pay twenty percent sales tax? Getting
Speaker 1: rid of real lif state taxes. That's a great idea. However,
Speaker 1: what's the downside?
Speaker 3: Well, actually it sounds the folks that are collecting signatures.
Speaker 3: I would caution everyone. I would say, please do not
Speaker 3: sign that petition. And here's why, listen, I live in Harrison, Ohio.
Speaker 3: They're fiscally responsible here, they're conservative, they're not wasting money.
Speaker 3: If property taxes were totally eliminated, we would not the
Speaker 3: City of Harrison would not be the City of Harrison
Speaker 3: as it is. Now, what do I mean by that?
Speaker 3: Their police, their fire, their streets department, you know, the
Speaker 3: guys that come out and keep our roads safe and
Speaker 3: fill potholes and whatnot. While the snow, all of that
Speaker 3: would be totally gone, and the property taxes are used
Speaker 3: to pay for things like I just mentioned, please fire roads,
Speaker 3: right and the whole nine yards, our schools educating our children.
Speaker 3: So yes, the speaker is totally right. We the General
Speaker 3: Assembly would have to say, Okay, well, how are we
Speaker 3: going to fund all these things? Because I mean, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you have to now what
Speaker 3: I will say in the budget. And we're working on
Speaker 3: the Conference committee. Now I'm not in the conference committee.
Speaker 3: It's three House members, three Senate members, and they're working
Speaker 3: on the differences between the House and the Senate budget.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the.
Speaker 3: Day, we are trying to deliver property tax relief for ohiolands.
Speaker 2: We get it, We also pay it.
Speaker 3: We all have a tax bill that we pay, and
Speaker 3: so we are trying to deliver property tax relief to
Speaker 3: ohiolands while still funding schools, our local government fund, medicaid,
Speaker 3: the Department of Corrections, Department of Youth Services, state patrol,
Speaker 3: you get the program.
Speaker 2: I mean, the state pays for a lot of.
Speaker 1: Things, yeah, including police and fire and getting the streets
Speaker 1: under control. But once again State Representative sending Abras, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show this Friday afternoon.
Speaker 1: The budgets all that stuff important, and we have people
Speaker 1: like Mordecai Black running around OTR, which is a almost
Speaker 1: like Tombstone, It's like the Ok Corral, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, a good man and a good woman, a
Speaker 1: man's life's taken defending Sarah against his fish's criminal because
Speaker 1: this State to Ohio and city police together did not
Speaker 1: go find this guy. And after he burglarized his ex
Speaker 1: girlfriends whom I can't imagine being the ex girlfriend of
Speaker 1: Mordecai Black, and she identifies him as the person that
Speaker 1: did it and is simply laid there. And three weeks
Speaker 1: later he murdered Patrick Herringer in his home. Something's got
Speaker 1: to be done. But Sidney Abrams, thanks again. Continue to
Speaker 1: have a great day, and we'll talk later and after
Speaker 1: the budget has approved, and Sidney Abrams, thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And you're a great American.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, thanks for having me. Let's continue
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Speaker 1: playing Saint Louis tonight. Of course, the Yankees are looking
Speaker 1: forward to their big three game series at My Ballpark
Speaker 1: The Great American on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. And one
Speaker 1: of the television stars of the New York Yankees Network
Speaker 1: is the Great Number twenty one, Paul O'Neil. Paul O'Neil,
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill cunn Show. First of all, Paul,
Speaker 1: I got a big question for you. Are you prepared
Speaker 1: for this question?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Willie.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's coming from you, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Go ahead.
Speaker 1: If you were not traded to the Yankees for Roberto Kelly,
Speaker 1: would you have a monument at my Ballpark The Great American?
Speaker 1: Could you see the O'Neill career being what it was
Speaker 1: if you stayed as a Red.
Speaker 5: You know what, I really don't think, so I don't
Speaker 5: know why I wasn't. I mean, we had the one
Speaker 5: World Championship one for certain us to switch a little bit.
Speaker 5: But you know, I was very fortunate. I went to
Speaker 5: New York at a great time, got to play with
Speaker 5: great teams, and you know, we accomplished a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, on the day you were traded, I guess Bob
Speaker 1: Quinn or somebody called you and say, hey, Paul were
Speaker 1: trading to the Yankees. Well, didn't you feel at one
Speaker 1: point sad that was happening because you were leaving Like
Speaker 1: you're You're from Columbus, this is your hometown team. You're
Speaker 1: a crosley Field looking at Roberto Clemente, you became number
Speaker 1: twenty one. Didn't you feel kind of down in the
Speaker 1: dumps when you were traded?
Speaker 5: Oh? Absolutely, I mean it's you know, when you're traded,
Speaker 5: you always feel like, you know, I didn't do enough.
Speaker 5: You felt like you let people down, and obviously when
Speaker 5: you're playing at home or close to home, this was
Speaker 5: you know, I was a Reds fan growing up in
Speaker 5: the Midwest, so I was disappointed. I didn't know what
Speaker 5: to expect in New York. But you know that's the
Speaker 5: way the game goes sometimes. And you know, looking back,
Speaker 5: either a huge opportunity for me.
Speaker 1: And you know, looking back, looking back, you got a
Speaker 1: monument next to Babe Ruth. Anyway, let's talk about this
Speaker 1: series coming up. I know the Yankees probably are not
Speaker 1: really excited about coming to Cincinnati, but you are that
Speaker 1: you still have a home here. You play golf here
Speaker 1: with a few of your buddies now and then, and
Speaker 1: you do all the work and the Yankees Entertainment System,
Speaker 1: you do all the television games. But do the Yankees
Speaker 1: care about coming to the Great American Ball Parker do
Speaker 1: the Yankees think what the hell are we doing this for?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: I mean, baseball is so much different with the Interleague,
Speaker 5: and you know there's a history when you go back,
Speaker 5: and you always kind of bring those back. You know,
Speaker 5: when the Yankees played the Big Red Machine in the
Speaker 5: in the World Series.
Speaker 1: So you can always go back on that.
Speaker 5: I mean, the Yankees have the Reds have played the
Speaker 5: Yankees tough over the years in the in these Inner League.
Speaker 5: And you know, Great American Ballpark is a great hitters ballpark,
Speaker 5: so I expect a lot of a lot of things
Speaker 5: as far as scoring runs to come about next.
Speaker 1: Week and you're you're in town to do this. Do
Speaker 1: you recall a bet that we made about a year ago?
Speaker 1: Have you forgotten that I have not?
Speaker 5: And the odds of that happening bill, So we're gonna
Speaker 5: double enough in this series. You did bet me that
Speaker 5: the Yankees would the Reds would sweep the Yankees, And
Speaker 5: I don't know how you pulled that one out of
Speaker 5: your hat.
Speaker 1: But it worked. What's happening with Aaron Judge? I saw
Speaker 1: him getting boot at Yankee Stadium. He dove for a
Speaker 1: ball and missed it. How quickly they forget? And you
Speaker 1: had said, I know you talked to Aaron about you
Speaker 1: when you led the American League and hitting one year.
Speaker 1: I think you were hitting like three seventy six or
Speaker 1: four hundred and June and you went up to Aaron Judge.
Speaker 1: What'd you say to him?
Speaker 5: Well, it was kind of a joke. Really. There were
Speaker 5: game notes out that day and Aaron Judge was hitting
Speaker 5: like three ninety or something, and he said, this day
Speaker 5: in history, you know, Babe Ruth was hitting four h
Speaker 5: two and I happened to be hit like four seventeen,
Speaker 5: and he said.
Speaker 1: Is that what I saw? And I said, yeah, you
Speaker 1: better get it.
Speaker 4: Going, brother.
Speaker 1: Anyway, right downhill, right right there? Yeah, what the Yankees
Speaker 1: have lost six of the last seven games, right yeah.
Speaker 5: They got swept in Boston, which was, you know, really
Speaker 5: surprising because Boston wasn't playing well and then with all
Speaker 5: the Devors stuff going on, and he been trade it.
Speaker 5: But then Anaheim comes in and you know, takes three
Speaker 5: out of four. But offensively, they just haven't played well lately.
Speaker 5: And you know, they're, like I said, great American Ballpark
Speaker 5: can solve a lot of those issues. But they're a
Speaker 5: solid team. There's ups and downs to baseball and they
Speaker 5: just went through it down. But you know, they had
Speaker 5: just swept Kansas City before that. So it's the course
Speaker 5: of a long year.
Speaker 4: But they have.
Speaker 1: A lot to look forward to.
Speaker 5: They've had some good, solid year to this point.
Speaker 1: Paula knew who was a better owner for you. Was
Speaker 1: it Marge Shot or George Steinbrenner.
Speaker 5: You know what, It's funny you say that, Bill jokingly,
Speaker 5: but you know, no two owners wanted to win. And
Speaker 5: I always respected March Shot because she she she wanted
Speaker 5: to win for the City, and that's the same thing
Speaker 5: that mister Steinbrenner did. So it's you know, obviously mister
Speaker 5: Steinberner was a little more competitive to the point where
Speaker 5: it was win or nothing, and you know, if you
Speaker 5: didn't play well then he would talk about you. But
Speaker 5: you know, I played for two great organizations and looking back,
Speaker 5: I can't can't complain.
Speaker 1: Paula knew who was a better manager, Pete Rose or
Speaker 1: Joe Tory. If you had to play for one manager
Speaker 1: in heaven for the for eternity, would it be Pete
Speaker 1: Rose or Joe Tory.
Speaker 5: Well again, I mean you kind of take a little
Speaker 5: bit from everybody you played. For the intensity of Pete Rose,
Speaker 5: I'll never forget and I needed that, you know, at
Speaker 5: that point in my career. But then as a veteran
Speaker 5: team in New York where you need, you know, to
Speaker 5: calm players down and get the media off the beck,
Speaker 5: Joe Tory was the best. So again, you take a
Speaker 5: little bit from everybody you've played with, and especially your managers.
Speaker 5: So again, I was very fortunate to play with two people,
Speaker 5: and I'm you.
Speaker 1: Know, happy that obviously they dropped the band.
Speaker 5: But you know, I always thought that Peter should be
Speaker 5: in the holidaym Anyway.
Speaker 1: If somebody had told you at the end of your
Speaker 1: playing career you would have five World Series rings, would
Speaker 1: you have believed it?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I didn't believe that. You know, the
Speaker 5: Reds were going to sweep the Yankees and Yankee Stadium,
Speaker 5: but you told me they did so, and.
Speaker 1: They also swept the Yankees in nineteen seventy six. You
Speaker 1: might recall the Reds one in there and kick the
Speaker 1: crap out of Thurman months in a nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 1: In fact, Paul, the Reds have won four consecutive World
Speaker 1: Series games in seventy six with you. In nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: they won four consecutive World Series games, and the last
Speaker 1: game they played against the Red Sox in nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 1: the Reds won the last game, Game seven. So the
Speaker 1: Red Legs have nine second of World Series rings. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry world Series wins. What do you think about those
Speaker 1: nine World Series wins by the Reds.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's a wonderful stat but you got
Speaker 5: to get to the World Series a little more often
Speaker 5: than they have, So you know, I always, you know,
Speaker 5: look and see how the Reds are doing, and hopefully
Speaker 5: you know they can turn things around. Terry Frank Hone
Speaker 5: is as good as are the best at what he does.
Speaker 5: And if he you give him some time and let
Speaker 5: him make some decisions. I think the Reds are going
Speaker 5: to be in a good spot now.
Speaker 1: Lastly, Cincinnati dominates New York. I'm thinking about Jerry Springer,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Aaron Boone. I'm thinking about Paul O'Neill.
Speaker 1: Is there something about Cincinnati values that dominate New York City?
Speaker 1: Do you and Boone talk about Cincinnati at all? A
Speaker 1: little bit?
Speaker 5: I mean we go in and talk about game things,
Speaker 5: and it always gets back to there. But you know,
Speaker 5: when you've played in a city as good as Cincinnati
Speaker 5: and you know the traditions here that you know, you
Speaker 5: learn a lot and as you move on, you still
Speaker 5: remember the guy you played with. And I was very,
Speaker 5: very lucky to be called up right, if you know,
Speaker 5: Pete Rose still the manager, concepts, the Homa still in uniform,
Speaker 5: Tony Perez, these are great players and you learn a
Speaker 5: lot from him as a young player.
Speaker 1: Which World Series ring do you look out more often?
Speaker 1: The one with the Reds or the four with the Yankees?
Speaker 1: Which one? Which one is most valuable to you. In fact,
Speaker 1: if you already give me a gift upon your death,
Speaker 1: would it be the World series ring from the Yankees
Speaker 1: or one from the Reds.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe I'll give you one of each.
Speaker 4: Bill, how about that?
Speaker 5: You know the Reds was our first World Series.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'll never forget it.
Speaker 5: And then when I look at the four that we
Speaker 5: won in New York when we played the Mets in
Speaker 5: two thousand, just being in one city getting on the bus,
Speaker 5: it was like high school again driving across the Tripro
Speaker 5: Bridge and mister Steinberner if we'd have lost that one
Speaker 5: and we all would have been, you know, a free agent.
Speaker 5: So there was a lot of pressure when when we
Speaker 5: played the Mets. But there's separate stories for every single
Speaker 5: World Series. And like I said, I got an opportunity
Speaker 5: to play with great teams.
Speaker 1: Lastly, if you go to the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown,
Speaker 1: will you be wearing a Yankee hat or a Reds hat?
Speaker 5: God, Bill, you got some tough questions today. Man, it's
Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Show right right night. I better put a
Speaker 5: little C on the side of the hat. How's that?
Speaker 1: But on the side of the Yankees hat?
Speaker 5: Yeah, possibly that's the way it is now.
Speaker 1: You read my mind, all right, Paulie, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, and we'll
Speaker 1: get together soon. I'll collect my bed. The Reds are
Speaker 1: going to sweep the Yankees Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, and
Speaker 1: if they don't, I'd be shocked.
Speaker 5: But all right, well, you gonna spot me a few
Speaker 5: runs too, Bill.
Speaker 1: Now wait a minute, you want a Cincinnati and to
Speaker 1: spot a Yankee a few runs? No, flat out, flat out?
Speaker 1: Once again, the Reds will dominate the Yankees, like in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, and like last June and the Yankee Stadium,
Speaker 1: it'll be the Reds will be undefeated, untied, unscored on
Speaker 1: at my ballpark, the great American.
Speaker 5: You called this a few years ago, and I laughed
Speaker 5: at you. So I'm just going to keep my mouth
Speaker 5: shut right now, let's see how this plays out.
Speaker 1: I quit snickering. Paul O'Neill. The great number twenty one
Speaker 1: traded for Roberto Kelly, and he did great in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: You got a monument with louke Gerrig. But all right,
Speaker 1: once again, Paul O'Neil, thanks for coming on, the Bill,
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show, and I'll see you on the golf course.
Speaker 4: See you Willie, have a good one.
Speaker 1: I thank you, he told me. A day or two
Speaker 1: after you got traded, he calls me and said, man,
Speaker 1: I can't believe it happened. I said, I don't know
Speaker 1: Roberto Kelly. And the thought was to defend the Reds,
Speaker 1: that Roberto Kelly was quicker, faster, up and coming, and
Speaker 1: he could play better, shall we say, on the turf
Speaker 1: of Riverfront Stadium, and that somehow he had more skill set.
Speaker 1: So Paul O'Neil goes to New York has monuments for
Speaker 1: World Series rings, now does the Yankees television games. I
Speaker 1: think the trade turned out okay for PAULI. I don't
Speaker 1: know where Roberto Kelly is. Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: News Radio sevenw My Bully comming in the Great American
Speaker 1: and of course good to hear from Paulie. Paul O'Neill.
Speaker 1: It's a lesson in life that one door shuts, another
Speaker 1: door opens. Just when you think it's dark, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the sun shines and life is so much better.
Speaker 1: Many times in my life I thought, you know things,
Speaker 1: I'm at the bottom and all of a sudden, another
Speaker 1: door opens. I go the other direction and things are great.
Speaker 1: I talked to PAULI when he was traded, and they thought, well,
Speaker 1: I'm from Columbus, I'm kind of a country boy, got
Speaker 1: a beautiful Nevillie. His wife is a living saint, very
Speaker 1: religious couple, got three little kids. They're going to be
Speaker 1: going to schools here. Has a home in the Sycamore area,
Speaker 1: and established himself as a player at a World Series
Speaker 1: ring that point, playing for pot Rose Low Panela. Life
Speaker 1: is good, and all of a sudden gets a call
Speaker 1: saying you've been traded to the Yankees. He said, what
Speaker 1: the hell? Did not want to go to the Yankees.
Speaker 1: By that point, they had not won anything for many,
Speaker 1: many years. The nineteen eight were a vacant time for
Speaker 1: the Yankees. They won the World Series twice in seventy
Speaker 1: seven and seventy eight, but there was no horizon on
Speaker 1: that was going to indicate the Yankees are going to
Speaker 1: be any good. And Paul was with his friends in
Speaker 1: his comfort area. In fact, there's a classic photo that
Speaker 1: Paul showed me. He was in Crosley Field, the sun
Speaker 1: deck and right field, and behind him was number twenty
Speaker 1: one for the Pirates Roberto Clemente. And that's why Paul
Speaker 1: O'Neal took twenty one is because he loved Roberto Clementy
Speaker 1: would come here from Columbus area to watch the Reds
Speaker 1: play baseball. Always wanted to be a Reds ball player,
Speaker 1: had a World Series ring. He gets traded to a
Speaker 1: team he didn't want to go. And let's face it,
Speaker 1: taking a young family to New York City in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three wasn't the best decision you could make. Thirty
Speaker 1: two years ago, New York City was like it is today.
Speaker 1: It was a free fire zone, had a ridiculous mayor
Speaker 1: named Dinkins, dinkdinkdnk Dinkins, and crime was rampant. And didn't
Speaker 1: want to go. He had to raise three young kids
Speaker 1: in New York City. There could not have been a
Speaker 1: better move he ever made, but he didn't have the choice,
Speaker 1: but it was made for him. So one door shut,
Speaker 1: another door opened turned out to be the best thing
Speaker 1: that ever happened to him. Reminds me also my own life.
Speaker 1: I accepted a job in Warren County to be a
Speaker 1: Warren County assistant prosecutor with Morris Jay turtlesen in like
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven seventy eight, and prepared to move my
Speaker 1: very young family from Toledo to Warren County to be
Speaker 1: an assistant prosecutor. I get a call from him saying, look,
Speaker 1: I hate to do this. I got to rescind the
Speaker 1: offer because another guy named Flannery is a friend of
Speaker 1: a friend, and I have a budget for one and
Speaker 1: it's not you. So I said, oh my gosh, I've
Speaker 1: already sold my house. He said, I'm sorry, I can't
Speaker 1: help you. So then I started looking for a job
Speaker 1: back home, and I found one with the Amity County
Speaker 1: Public Defender's Office. I was low as whale, done penny,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to come back home. Had been in
Speaker 1: Toledo for six or seven years, but I want to
Speaker 1: come back home. And I said to her, if we
Speaker 1: don't get back home now, and I become more ensconced
Speaker 1: here with Schnorf, Schnorff, and Snorf, we may never get
Speaker 1: back home. Well, b Larson Hamwin County Public Defender's Office
Speaker 1: hired me because she said, you have all the academic qualifications,
Speaker 1: you're a Cincinnatian, and come on down. So I would
Speaker 1: not have done. If Morris Turklesen has kept his promise
Speaker 1: to me and I began as assistant county prosecutor in
Speaker 1: Warren County, you would not be listening to me now.
Speaker 1: I would not continue my life here at home, which
Speaker 1: I wanted badly. So just because you've been fired, told
Speaker 1: you don't get the job you failed in life, doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that there's another door ready to open that you
Speaker 1: were completely unaware of that is better for you in
Speaker 1: the long run. And apoll O'Neil, what happened was better now. Secondly,
Speaker 1: two stories in the Inquire Today. One is about a
Speaker 1: Cincinnati police officer named Jason Wallace. CPD officer Jason Wallace
Speaker 1: and citizens are encouraged of foul complaints against police in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: which happens hundreds of times every year. Allegedly, Jason Wallace says,
Speaker 1: say a police officer used some foul language when arresting someone.
Speaker 1: In fact, he dropped the F bomb. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: during the arrest, he dropped the F bomb. And people
Speaker 1: who filed a complaint against him for using foul language
Speaker 1: and arresting somebody. Of course, city consultant Iris Rowley making
Speaker 1: a bundle of money from these kinds of things, said,
Speaker 1: I do not want to be cussed by the people
Speaker 1: I paid to protect and serve me, quote unquote. So
Speaker 1: he was like a reprimanded don't use foul language when
Speaker 1: arresting criminals. Now that that's what the city is concerned about.
Speaker 1: Mayor Pireval said, yeah, that's really bad, don't do that.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, a kid was killed last night
Speaker 1: in an apartment. I spoke to one of the leaders
Speaker 1: of three C d C who said, as a good kid,
Speaker 1: came from a good background, wanted a summer job. Put
Speaker 1: him to work working for me. And Steve Leaper told
Speaker 1: me about ten minutes ago, my heart's broken. We hire
Speaker 1: someone to help in the community, and he's murdered doing
Speaker 1: his job. And Steve Leaper is the first guy out
Speaker 1: there to pick up plate glass windows that are shattered
Speaker 1: or bought up, a business broken into, and every time
Speaker 1: you take two steps forward, four steps back. So the
Speaker 1: city Pierval is more concerned about a cop using their
Speaker 1: word when arresting a criminal than a seventeen eighteen year
Speaker 1: old boy murdered in OTR disgusting. Let's continue with more
Speaker 1: up next. As an expert about Iran what America can do.
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WULW, Cincinnati by Billy Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the great American of course, right now as I speak,
Speaker 1: book and left, right and in the Senator are some
Speaker 1: more and Randy and missiles heading toward Hypa. The situation
Speaker 1: that' given a two week reprieve to an extent by
Speaker 1: President Trump, who says he's going to allow the next
Speaker 1: two weeks to go buy to see what occurs. There's
Speaker 1: an upside on the downside to using the bunker busters,
Speaker 1: and whether or not Iran's next leader might be someone
Speaker 1: more radical than Iotola Koman. He's another issue to take
Speaker 1: into account. Joining you and I now is Nick Berg.
Speaker 1: And Nick Berg is an author. He was born in
Speaker 1: Tehran to an Iranian mother and an American father. Served
Speaker 1: in the US Special Operations. He's one of the few
Speaker 1: Americans who have firsthand experience of life inside Iran and
Speaker 1: also inside the US military. And Nick Berg, welcome to
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Nick, can
Speaker 1: you tell the American people an overview as we speak
Speaker 1: this Friday afternoon, what is happening between Iran and Israel
Speaker 1: right now? Because many people only see this occasionally, at
Speaker 1: least in the Midwest. What is the status of the
Speaker 1: of the war right now?
Speaker 6: Thank you Bill for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 6: So this few between and Israel goes back a long ways,
Speaker 6: back into the nineteen eighties when the Islamic Republic became
Speaker 6: Iran's government and became totally anti Israel. Before that, Israel
Speaker 6: and Iran were really good friends and the show Iran
Speaker 6: supported Israel, and they were part of the world community
Speaker 6: that wanted to see a peaceful Medle East. But there's
Speaker 6: some government in Iran right now has been trying. They
Speaker 6: have called for white in Israel off the map three
Speaker 6: or four times their old president, and they talked about
Speaker 6: that a number of times. And they are basically, if
Speaker 6: you ask me, they are completely the head of the
Speaker 6: snake for everything that's wrong in the Middle East, for
Speaker 6: everything from data that Isletanon and who's teaching Yemen. They
Speaker 6: are the financiers for all of the terrorism that goes
Speaker 6: on in that goes on in the world right now.
Speaker 6: And Israel basically got to a point that they couldn't
Speaker 6: wait any longer for anybody else do something. And they
Speaker 6: have a right to defend themselves. And this was completely
Speaker 6: a defensive back on the Israeli side, because they knew
Speaker 6: well that if Iran gets their hands on a nuclear weapon,
Speaker 6: they will use it. And they had the minibalistic missiles
Speaker 6: and all of that to carry O warheads straight into
Speaker 6: downtown Tel Aviv.
Speaker 1: And you know, many times we forget history. Until nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine, with the Shaw of Iran fell. Iran was
Speaker 1: a secular nation in which all religions were welcome to
Speaker 1: be practiced. It was perceived to be a friend of
Speaker 1: not just Israel, but of the United States, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden there was some dissatisfaction with governmental policies,
Speaker 1: and Iotola Komyane was flown in from France to the revolution.
Speaker 1: And since then, one of the oddest things I noticed
Speaker 1: is that the leader of the Ietola Komane, who now
Speaker 1: runs Iran, is a religious leader who's calling for the death, destruction,
Speaker 1: the rape, and the murder of all kinds of men
Speaker 1: and women all over the world. I could not imagine
Speaker 1: Pope Yeah, Pope Leo the fourteenth calling for the murder
Speaker 1: of anybody. But talk about the religious aspects of this
Speaker 1: guy and how he wants to kill a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he's no different than what we had during
Speaker 6: the Iraq War of isis taking over, raping and killing
Speaker 6: people and women and children and everybody else. That radical Islam,
Speaker 6: if we can call it that, it's it's it's basically
Speaker 6: based on the violence and based on all of that.
Speaker 6: So the reason you don't hear here Leo talk about
Speaker 6: that because Christianday comes from love and Jesus loving everybody,
Speaker 6: ant giving everybody. Since in Islam, if you're if you're
Speaker 6: a sinner, if you are somebody that doesn't believe in
Speaker 6: their religions, you're infidel, and they'll cut your head off.
Speaker 6: If you convert from Islam to any other religion, your
Speaker 6: head gets caught up. That's that's the normal thing. If
Speaker 6: you're if you're gay or anything that they don't approve
Speaker 6: of you, they throw you off the building. The woman
Speaker 6: get still in the middle of the in the ground,
Speaker 6: even for they call it for adulttry but for any reason,
Speaker 6: they could do these things. I lived there, I knew
Speaker 6: exactly what it was. I fought against the government. After
Speaker 6: the seventy nine revolution that happened, I had to get
Speaker 6: out of Iran. Because my execution note was up because
Speaker 6: while I was working with all the anti government in
Speaker 6: Iran to to overthrow the Islamic Republic. Unfortunately I wasn't
Speaker 6: lucky enough to do that. But I'm really really hoping
Speaker 6: that today we can, we can have a new government
Speaker 6: in Iran and take you run back to its original roots,
Speaker 6: which are not Islamic. Most people don't do this.
Speaker 5: You run.
Speaker 6: Islam was forced on you run during the rab invasion
Speaker 6: when they took over Persia. I took what's called back
Speaker 6: then and they forced this law onto the to the
Speaker 6: Iranians before that, Iran has a rich history of helping
Speaker 6: other religious Cyrus. The Great was the one when he
Speaker 6: took over a battle on here released all the Jewish
Speaker 6: slaves all of there. And first the Equation of human
Speaker 6: Rights was written by the Persians, which is now in
Speaker 6: the Fritish Museum. This is not Iran, this is not
Speaker 6: the Iranian people. This government have been really really driving
Speaker 6: all of this violence and all of these things for
Speaker 6: the last forty years because they basically want to survive
Speaker 6: and they want to be.
Speaker 2: In power.
Speaker 1: The world right now, Nick Burd, those are great comments
Speaker 1: because the Persian Iranian people had hundreds of thousands of Jews,
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of Catholics, Christians, Atheists, whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: You lived your life. But after nineteen seventy nine that
Speaker 1: all change. Let me ask you this question. I watched
Speaker 1: everything that I can, and at some point it's got
Speaker 1: to be an article of faith even among Democrats, that
Speaker 1: the Eye Tootal cannot get a nuclear weapon, in which
Speaker 1: case you will use it. It is a death cult.
Speaker 1: They celebrate death, don't celebrate life. What happens if the
Speaker 1: Eye tot is taken down? Does the Iranian Revolutionary Guard
Speaker 1: take over and impose worse policies or does it go
Speaker 1: the other direction.
Speaker 6: I think it's going to go to the other direction.
Speaker 6: Right now, the crime Prince of Iran, the Shaff's son,
Speaker 6: he is ready to take over power. And he doesn't
Speaker 6: want another monarchy either. Hey make that very clear. He
Speaker 6: wants a three referendum for Iranian people to decide what
Speaker 6: kind of a government they want to breed. Secular government
Speaker 6: in Iran that can be part of the world. One
Speaker 6: of the things that we saw when President Trump went
Speaker 6: to his Middle East tour and went through all of
Speaker 6: these different countries. In Saudi Arabia, Yue and all of that.
Speaker 6: That showed the Iranian people how far they have fallen
Speaker 6: in the past forty years. Before the revolution, Iran was
Speaker 6: the right of the Middle East. I mean they were
Speaker 6: technologically advanced. They were. They would have wanted that everybody,
Speaker 6: every Arab nation in the Culf, in the Preshion golf
Speaker 6: would look up to them. Now, with this tour that
Speaker 6: the president made, and I think the timing was well planned,
Speaker 6: that showed if the whole world that where Iran could
Speaker 6: be and this is what they run and people want.
Speaker 6: They want a secular government. I'm in touch with a
Speaker 6: lot of people in Iran right now and I have
Speaker 6: conversations with them there is right now. The reason they
Speaker 6: cut off the internet in the last three or four
Speaker 6: days is because there's a lot of anti government chants
Speaker 6: that are happening. But they broadcast on TV and they
Speaker 6: show all of these people supporting Palestinians and supporting the
Speaker 6: government and all of that. That's a whole bunch of jump.
Speaker 6: They cut off the internet so people can't get the
Speaker 6: messages out that this government is almost done and they
Speaker 6: want a new sicular government.
Speaker 1: I pray to God that happens because to continue on
Speaker 1: this path of destruction, death, disease, of rape and murder
Speaker 1: is just h They are the head of the snake.
Speaker 1: For those who may not know, they funded Hezballah in Lebanon.
Speaker 1: They offended that they funded Hamas in so called Palestine
Speaker 1: or Gaza. They also funded the Hoodies in South Yemen.
Speaker 1: And they also have killed directly or indirectly thousands and
Speaker 1: thousands of American soldiers along with hundreds of thousands of Muslims.
Speaker 1: In fact, the number one victim of the Iola comane
Speaker 1: in this branch of Islam, the number one victim are
Speaker 1: fellow Muslims. What is mbs. Yeah, talk about the other
Speaker 1: Muslims in the Middle East and how they view Iran
Speaker 1: at this point with the Eyetola.
Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely absolutely, And I just don't understand some of
Speaker 6: the American politicisess. To be honest with you, Bill, I
Speaker 6: said when the time that through Obama, we gave you
Speaker 6: wrong for the millions of dollars that was shipped over
Speaker 6: there and all of that, all of that is supported
Speaker 6: us and his whole law and Gaza and that tyrannical
Speaker 6: regimes over there. Sometimes I can't watching this University, so
Speaker 6: that are protesting Israel and a love that innocent people
Speaker 6: are dying Goza and all of that. I get that.
Speaker 6: I understand what they're trying to stand about, and nobody
Speaker 6: wants to see in the people dying. But the case,
Speaker 6: you have to understand it. We stop bombing Berlin because
Speaker 6: the Nazis were in charge, because they are innocent people there.
Speaker 6: Didn't we just go in there and basically despoke Germany
Speaker 6: to root up and not to evil. This is the
Speaker 6: same thing that Israel'm doing in Godza today. And we
Speaker 6: have to support Israel in this process, and we have
Speaker 6: to support Israel in Iran and what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1: At this point, Uh, sitting here this Friday afternoon, I
Speaker 1: think Iran is trying to buy more time. And every
Speaker 1: day there's thirty to fifty new sites in Iran that
Speaker 1: are taken down by Israel, largely unguarded, unprotected. They taking
Speaker 1: down on the radar station. So at this point, if
Speaker 1: you give the Israelis another two weeks in order to
Speaker 1: degrade the military in Iran, I think that would be
Speaker 1: a positive. On the other hand, if we use these
Speaker 1: mothers of all bombs, if we use these bunker busters
Speaker 1: and they succeed, is that a problem? If they fail,
Speaker 1: is that a problem? Because if we leave Iran in
Speaker 1: control of the Aetola and give him two to four
Speaker 1: more years, there's no more question he's going to develop.
Speaker 1: He has the technology of the knowledge in order to
Speaker 1: develop nuclear weapons. They'll simply start again and again and again.
Speaker 1: Isn't it true to say that if we start negotiations
Speaker 1: in Geneva, Switzerland and this goes on, Okay, let's have
Speaker 1: a ceasefire with the Ietola in charge and let this
Speaker 1: thing drag out for another year or two, how does
Speaker 1: that benefit the world.
Speaker 6: It's isn't It doesn't. I don't think this government is
Speaker 6: capable of doing an negotiation in good faith. It just
Speaker 6: doesn't work. I mean, we still during about Clinton with
Speaker 6: North Korea. You know, everybody celebrated that North Korea was
Speaker 6: dismantling their nuclear weapons and all of that, and it
Speaker 6: took a year and a half to two years when
Speaker 6: North Korea had a newclear weapon. Now they're threatening South
Speaker 6: Korea and everywhere else in the world.
Speaker 4: That's just the.
Speaker 6: Same place right now. At this point, I'm really hoping
Speaker 6: that President Trump will make the right decision and destroy
Speaker 6: their capabilities one way or the other. There is no question.
Speaker 6: We have to destroy capabilities, either with bunker busters or
Speaker 6: anything else that we need to m Billa. One thing
Speaker 6: I wanted to mention because I heard them the news
Speaker 6: a lot of criticism, UH, people that support the president
Speaker 6: saying well he did he might give us into another
Speaker 6: war and all of that stuff. We have to trust
Speaker 6: the president on this. He has the right idea. He's
Speaker 6: driving this thing for the safety of the world, not
Speaker 6: just history, but for the safety of the world. Sometimes
Speaker 6: some wars we just can't alloyd and we have to
Speaker 6: get into it. So we have to trust this Jushmand
Speaker 6: right now. Yeah, we could have missed the right call
Speaker 6: and mix the right decisions. And if it means another
Speaker 6: war for the USB it, I think our truths are ready.
Speaker 6: We're ready to go and get rid of this minusla.
Speaker 1: Lastly, there's a hangover here in the States from what
Speaker 1: happened with the Iraqi war. I can still recall George
Speaker 1: Bush forty three saying that Sada Mussein had nuclear and
Speaker 1: had weapons of mass destruction and that this is a
Speaker 1: matter of the mushroom cloud over in New York City.
Speaker 1: If we don't do it. It turned out that what
Speaker 1: George Bush was saying about Iraq and I guess indirectly
Speaker 1: Afghanistan was wrong. It was incorrect. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they were lies, knowing there was something different when he
Speaker 1: said it. But there's a sense in America from Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson and others that we can't get involved in another
Speaker 1: war in the Middle East. We can't put troops on
Speaker 1: the ground in Iran. It would be a disaster. He
Speaker 1: ask the American people, do you want your son and
Speaker 1: daughter to die somewhere in the desert of Iran. The
Speaker 1: answer is not just no, the answer is hell no.
Speaker 1: So having said that, can America and Israel win this
Speaker 1: war from the air without putting on ground troops in Tehran,
Speaker 1: which the American people would oppose.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, we can't do that. And one of the
Speaker 6: things that I would say, Iranian people are ready.
Speaker 4: To take charge.
Speaker 6: They just need to support the Iranian people are ready
Speaker 6: to topple this government and bring in the new government.
Speaker 6: We're almost there, and some of the things we just
Speaker 6: they just need to support up as President and the
Speaker 6: rest of the free world to make that happen. We
Speaker 6: got to stop talking about negotiations and all of that.
Speaker 6: We have to go and use those bunker buses and
Speaker 6: destroy their capability right now from the air. We don't
Speaker 6: necessarily have to put tooths on the ground, but we
Speaker 6: have the capability to support a thrill in and destroy
Speaker 6: any anything that's resemble some nuclear weapon. At this point
Speaker 6: and day RUNI and people would take it the rest of.
Speaker 1: The way, nick Berg, I pray to God that's the case.
Speaker 1: We can't live like this in Israel. I've been there.
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful place. It's a functioning democracy and returning
Speaker 1: Iran to its historical roots. Maybe the shaw Sun is
Speaker 1: ready to go, but the military in Iran must be
Speaker 1: further degraded, and somehow the people must arise themselves and
Speaker 1: say we can't live like this anymore. Nick Berg, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Nick you're
Speaker 1: a great American and the great Iranian. Thank you very much,
Speaker 1: and continue to have a great Friday afternoon.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Nick, I appreciate it. Brisk thank you so much.
Speaker 1: God bless America. Let's continue with more. And there you
Speaker 1: have it from Nick Berg, who lived in both locations
Speaker 1: for long periods of time. Understands the Iranian people. The
Speaker 1: effect of George Bush and Dick Cheney's false promises on
Speaker 1: Iraq and Afghanistan are hangover. Says to what we can do,
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that thing's massive. All right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you'd showed me a picture. Hello Byet Skulls.
Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting segment. The beloved Mayor of Cincinnati is criticizing
Speaker 1: Cincinnati police for using the F word when arresting criminals.
Speaker 1: That's the big issue in the city of Cincinnati. Did
Speaker 1: not use the F bomb, You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Are there other problems maybe in ot R? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: like last night a sixteen year old dead. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: Steve told me I could mention this on there. Steve Leeper,
Speaker 1: as you know, runs three c DC. He is, he's hurt,
Speaker 1: he's angry, he's sorry, he's broken that one of his employees,
Speaker 1: seemingly is a good sixteen year old boy, was hired
Speaker 1: in the same summer time and now working in OTR.
Speaker 1: He's dead. And his father said, I can't believe this
Speaker 1: happened to my son. Sophomore is sixteen year old taffed
Speaker 1: high school, working two part time jobs, donating his time
Speaker 1: to diabetic concerns. I guess somebody in his family has
Speaker 1: diabetes and he found himself in OTR and he's dead.
Speaker 1: But the mayor's concerned with cops using the F word,
Speaker 1: of course when it rested criminals, and getting this haircut
Speaker 1: about a five hundred dollars apiece. We go to the
Speaker 1: same barber, by the way. That's a different story that segment.
Speaker 1: Are you outraged by this or not? Yes?
Speaker 2: At some point his foolishness has got to stop.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Also kent on Paul O'Neil about an hour ago. Yes,
Speaker 1: number twenty one, the man who kicked the ball should
Speaker 1: have been a placekicker in the National Football League. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: In November of nineteen ninety two, it gets a call
Speaker 1: yes from the Reds GM believe it was Bob Quinn
Speaker 1: who said, Paul, I have some news for you. We've
Speaker 1: traded Juju the New York Yankees. Paulie said, what for
Speaker 1: Roberto Kelly? And he said I didn't know what to say.
Speaker 1: I said, well, let me know when to report whatever.
Speaker 1: He tell us. His lovely wife, Nevilie they have three
Speaker 1: small children. And do you think a father wants to
Speaker 1: go live in New York City with three kids in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three? Correct?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Unhappy? Yeah, how'd that work out? Very well? How many?
Speaker 1: He's now a Yankee legend, he's a monument, Yes, Ruth,
Speaker 1: Gary Barah, Barah, Mannel Mantel Barah, Yeah, I got him.
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson, Reggie Jackson, Derek Jeter, Derek Jeter, a rod
Speaker 1: Ay rod I'm not sure about him not in there?
Speaker 1: Who else? How about Miller Huggins, Yeah, him one of
Speaker 1: your good friends.
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: And how about Joelton, Joe DiMaggio, thank you, last man,
Speaker 1: I gave a shower or two? And Paul O'Neil. Now
Speaker 1: did that work out or not for Paulie? Yes? And
Speaker 1: then you just read something he's been a part of
Speaker 1: three perfect games? How about this one in baseball history? Yeah,
Speaker 1: to be part of the winning team of three perfect games,
Speaker 1: of course, mister perfect September sixteenth, nineteen eighty eight, number
Speaker 1: thirty two. Then David Wells nineteen ninety eight. Yes, and
Speaker 1: then later in the same season David kohne Be talking
Speaker 1: about a guy that that happy got traded. Yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you not at the time, and had and had a career,
Speaker 1: a career, and he's got a ring for every every
Speaker 1: every finger on his left hand. I think he told
Speaker 1: me he wants to give me his World Series ring
Speaker 1: from the Reds. Should I accept it? Why not? What's
Speaker 1: he going to do? He goes me, Oh, remember the
Speaker 1: bet we're supposed to take you to? Well, I said,
Speaker 1: I'll give up the dinner, just give me the ring.
Speaker 1: Last year, the Reds are playing in New York correct
Speaker 1: the Yankees?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: I bet him, of course on the golf course. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the Reds was sweep the Yankees. Yep, he said,
Speaker 1: There's no way on God's green Earth the Reds going
Speaker 1: into Yankee Stadium and sweep the Yankees. What happened? Sweep?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 4: Got it?
Speaker 1: I watch the double or nothing? This year? Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday?
Speaker 1: What should I do? What does that mean? You get
Speaker 1: two rings instead of one? I want both rings? I
Speaker 1: went the ring, Maybe the two thousand ring, that's what
Speaker 1: I want. I don't know what to tell you. He's
Speaker 1: coming to town Monday, right, Yeah, he's here, he's here now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but the Reds are in Saint Louis. Say
Speaker 1: get me into the Studge report. You're making a fool
Speaker 1: of yourself. Will leave the Stooge reporters. Approach service of
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Speaker 1: need temp Star this weekend because it's gonna be what
Speaker 1: one hundred billion degrees here. I'm going to Naples next
Speaker 1: week because it's cooler in Naples than here. I got
Speaker 1: to cool off a little bit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Reds kickoff a major three game series tonight against those
Speaker 1: Cardinals in Saint Louis. Meet me in Saint Lot six
Speaker 1: five a Sports Talk RNL carriers Inside Pitch and then
Speaker 1: Kelsey Chevrolet Extra Inning Show after the game, Brady Singer,
Speaker 1: we'll go tonight for the Red Legs. Hope he's he's
Speaker 1: a little bit better than Nick Smiley Martinez. Not good.
Speaker 1: Nicky Smiles yesterday rock for seven runs and just two
Speaker 1: and two thirds innings. A joeld question, how we look it?
Speaker 2: Not good?
Speaker 1: Twins beat him around like it was throwing batting practice.
Speaker 1: Let's see NBA Finals former Dayton standout Obi Toppin off
Speaker 1: the bench with twenty points. Indiana downs Oklahoma City one
Speaker 1: O eight ninety one. Who wins on Sunday Night segment
Speaker 1: Game seven Sunday Night in Oklahoma City. I'm saying, Pacers
Speaker 1: all the way with Ted McKay. They're getting nine and
Speaker 1: a half points. By the way I'm going, I'm going
Speaker 1: with the I'm going with the Pacers, Okay. And then
Speaker 1: how about this high school football? What former Beachwood standout coach,
Speaker 1: no rash? What about Scott Teckett is back? What he's
Speaker 1: coming out of retirement?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: No rash? We've had him in here because then a
Speaker 1: couple about four or five years in a row. I'm
Speaker 1: always coming in with the state type, right, even when
Speaker 1: they don't win. He's going to take over at Connor
Speaker 1: after the death of their coach at Dave Tosper terrible
Speaker 1: seventeen years at Beechwood, two hundred victories, eight state championships.
Speaker 1: And is Connor the home of the Bulldogs? Am I right?
Speaker 1: I think the Cougars are they the Connor Cougars a
Speaker 1: lot of older women go there. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know to go find out. Let's find out. Let's see. Also,
Speaker 1: good luck this weekend. I know these guys are going
Speaker 1: to be nice and cool. Roger Bacon Underwater Hockey Team. Eh,
Speaker 1: they're going to compete in the USA Underwater Hockey twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five US National Championships. What's in Denver, Colorado? What's
Speaker 1: underwater hockey? You go underwater and play hockey at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the pool. I used to tell my wife,
Speaker 1: let's go to the twin drive in theater and watch
Speaker 1: some submarine races. She bought it for about two trips.
Speaker 4: That was it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You're sick. Thank you well.
Speaker 1: He also with the hot weather coming in the Student
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Speaker 1: Pools and Spas hit it call today swim this year
Speaker 1: thanks to Frank Zibel, it's going to be hotter than
Speaker 1: the Hinges of Hell segment. Now, what else that's about it?
Speaker 1: Fifty years ago today? What year? Fifty years ago today?
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy five, Jaws the movie was released. Steven Spielberg.
Speaker 1: Of course, Cincinnati, remember that Spielberg, Cincinnati, Jaws, I saw
Speaker 1: that pretty good stuff. I like that stuff. That's why
Speaker 1: I don't go in the ocean. I don't like the
Speaker 1: ocean that has sharks. I saw seventy five feet right,
Speaker 1: not good saltwater. I don't like any of it. Fifty
Speaker 1: years ago today today, Jaws, I saw that the movie release.
Speaker 1: Did you see it originally? I saw him? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought about two or three times, and it was in
Speaker 1: Toledo when I saw oh, oh, wait a minute, now,
Speaker 1: sounds like an executive from iHeartMedia. Meet me in, meet
Speaker 1: me in skips. Here we go like DJ Hodge can't
Speaker 1: have time to see me in skips when you get
Speaker 1: off the air, I'm not coming. This is the music
Speaker 1: he plays in the background. In fact, Cindy, it skips
Speaker 1: see more people far than anyone I know. I think
Speaker 1: this is his ring tone. You're ready in the next
Speaker 1: n gol DJ, and this this music starts coming.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: Ain't that getting ready? DJ's warming up? I don't know
Speaker 1: what to tell you. Well, the next six games are critical, Well,
Speaker 1: you got three, they don't play them well well, and
Speaker 1: Saint Louis is kind of stinking up the place before
Speaker 1: they swept the doubleheader, but any you know, your Madera
Speaker 1: bull Tangs could have beaten the White Sox. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Yanks are coming, Andrew ben Attendi looks like he's
Speaker 1: available via trade. Say that again. The White Sox I
Speaker 1: think are going to unload five years seventy five mil.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it works here if he would come here,
Speaker 1: you know what may that happen? The guy that they
Speaker 1: probably should get is Luis Robert. What they should do
Speaker 1: is they should have never let that guy what's his
Speaker 1: name Byron Buxton. They should have left, never let him
Speaker 1: left town yesterday. Well, you let off like every game
Speaker 1: with a home run, and we want that guy get
Speaker 1: that good though, Well, the fact is there. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to say. They got that McLean's hitting the
Speaker 1: ball now and they and they get to the All
Speaker 1: Star break, Well, you got three in Saint Louis not good.
Speaker 1: The Yanks come to town Tuesday, Wednesdays coming next Friday,
Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday with the big Red Machine reunion weekend.
Speaker 1: You got the San Diego Padres who had a fight
Speaker 1: last night with the Dodgers, got into it, both managers
Speaker 1: going out of each other. You see Roberts last night.
Speaker 1: Oh he pushed the other guy you out to get
Speaker 1: suspended to spend them all and then uh, then they
Speaker 1: go to Boston not good. Uh, and then Red Sox
Speaker 1: and then I think the Phillies philis go to the
Speaker 1: Phillies the face off against Middletown zone Kyle Schwarber. Pretty
Speaker 1: good lineup there. When did they go back and play
Speaker 1: color the week before the All Star break? Let's play them.
Speaker 1: I think they played Miami and Colorado's before play the
Speaker 1: All Star Game. If they don't win every game in
Speaker 1: that in that week, that's it. That'd be like Muller
Speaker 1: High School in baseball playing deer Park in baseball. At
Speaker 1: this point, you got to be deer Park, would you agree?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are they're deer Park in nineteen seventy seven? Well, look
Speaker 1: at what in the state title. We'll look at that
Speaker 1: one thing. I mean, they lost to Miami in Washington
Speaker 1: in a road trip I believe earlier this year. That's
Speaker 1: how those are the kind of games. See, they were
Speaker 1: good against the teams last year that were that the Yankees,
Speaker 1: Phillies and everything else that were good. They stunk against
Speaker 1: the teams that's stunk. And you stink when you should
Speaker 1: go well and you go, well, you stink they can go.
Speaker 1: That's sure. They're stinking in going. Well, you don't know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, that's for sure. They got a
Speaker 1: winning record though, Well that's right now they do hopefully
Speaker 1: keep going. What about that, Well, let's keep going. What
Speaker 1: if they go three and three the next six? Would
Speaker 1: you accept that? I know the Well yeah, i'd accept
Speaker 1: three in stree. So well, they just got to keep
Speaker 1: winning series. That's all they got to do. O'Neil's got
Speaker 1: to give me two World Series rings. At the Red
Speaker 1: sweep the Yankees again, I thought you were supposed to
Speaker 1: go out to dinner. At dinner, he gives me the ring. Well,
Speaker 1: how can he do it? If he's in town and
Speaker 1: you're in Florida. He'll be avoiding me like the plague
Speaker 1: if I win again. I mean last time he made
Speaker 1: me the bet on the dinner. Couldn't find him with
Speaker 1: a search ware for several months. Then he surfaced at Kenwood, said,
Speaker 1: you're finally back. I used to give maybe you take
Speaker 1: it a dinner down there at the dining room and
Speaker 1: g A, that's pretty good stuff down there. It is
Speaker 1: good you like it because it's free. Now pay do you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: She didn't charge me anything. She charges you. That's the way,
Speaker 1: because it's you and versus me. I mean, I'm like
Speaker 1: Rinaldo walking around. They call me c R seven, that's
Speaker 1: what they call me. My wife thinks that look look
Speaker 1: like Christianna Ronaldo. That's what she says. I thought she
Speaker 1: said it looked like mouse. Give me out a stution
Speaker 1: for that was disrespectful. Will he had out our other
Speaker 1: go reds and a hot weekend ahead. You know I'm
Speaker 1: going south to cool down. We leave you with the
Speaker 1: ivordal words of the stew report. Well, the object in
Speaker 1: any sport is to get better as the season goes along.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're playing Timley wins. You got
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to get a little bit
Speaker 1: better as the season moves along. That's a wise comment
Speaker 1: right there. That's why the Cowboys the cow He's funny, Yes,
Speaker 1: he is funny, man. I think Tommy Throll is doing
Speaker 1: a great job also, yes, or good team up? Yep.
Speaker 1: But Paul O'Neill on the Yankees Entertainment System and y
Speaker 1: E S Network tonight, correct, how do you do after it? Traded.
Speaker 1: Why did the Reds trade Paul O'Neil? Can you tell me?
Speaker 1: I had no idea, I can't I know when it happened.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking what Roberto Kelly. Well, Roberto Kelly I
Speaker 1: think was pretty good way back when, or he had
Speaker 1: a crowd of good years prior to that, but in
Speaker 1: New York. But the Yankee stunked from like now he's
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty until nineteen ninety five, and then and then
Speaker 1: he's a then big, big Paul O'Neill becomes a legend,
Speaker 1: Yankee legend, a monument. Garig Ruth, DiMaggio, Farah Jackson and
Speaker 1: Paul O'Neill. And who did the retch trade in that group?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking pot Rose lou goes from there to hear
Speaker 1: we send the manager there and their best player, paul
Speaker 1: O Knight. What do we get back Roberto Kelly and
Speaker 1: a bag of balls? He's probably he's been out of baseball,
Speaker 1: probably for years. I don't know if he's still alive.
Speaker 1: Segment Thank you by the way. Now after two o'clock
Speaker 1: we have judged Josh Berkerwitz coming up from Hamley County
Speaker 1: Court to talk about the refusal of the Clerk of
Speaker 1: Courts Pavon Periq to follow the law. Now, Pavan Perik
Speaker 1: was admonished by the Democrat and Republican judges in Hamley
Speaker 1: County and the Court of Appeals and by the High
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. They stood his one to say you can't
Speaker 1: do what you're doing, stop doing it. So Pavan Perik
Speaker 1: is now in the radar system of the High Supreme
Speaker 1: Court and he's a lawyer who refuses to follow the law.
Speaker 1: But we'll make sure he does. Segment. Well, then you
Speaker 1: know what that means, right, justice is Joe Joe Dieters
Speaker 1: or Justice Joe jj Eaters, also known as the man
Speaker 1: who makes the putts a number eighteen of Clovernook when
Speaker 1: he has to in front of the ry Harry Alexander.
Speaker 1: He's a player. Bill Cunningham one fifty five HOMEO REDS
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW by Billy Cunningham, the great American.
Speaker 1: Of course, how many many months ago I had on
Speaker 1: a judge from Hamley County to presiding judge the Municipal Court,
Speaker 1: Judge Josh Berkowitz, who found himself in an odd position.
Speaker 1: And normally the Clerk of Courts is the creature so
Speaker 1: to speak, of keeping public records. And normally when a
Speaker 1: clerk of courts is elected and the judges of Hamley County,
Speaker 1: Democrat and Republican say, hey, clerk, you're not doing your job.
Speaker 1: You can't union otily decide to take out of the
Speaker 1: public domain public records. Most clerk of courts would have said,
Speaker 1: you know, your honor, your judge, I can't anticipate people
Speaker 1: are going to follow the orders that I issue unless
Speaker 1: I follow orders issued to me. And at this point
Speaker 1: the Hamony County Clerk of Courts, a guy named Pavan Perik,
Speaker 1: said no to the judges, and so Judge Berkowitz, representing
Speaker 1: all the judges of Hamlony County Municipal Court, sought to
Speaker 1: have a meeting with next tell us what you're thinking here,
Speaker 1: because you're taking out of the public domain public records
Speaker 1: and refuse to meet with them. So then lawsuits were filed,
Speaker 1: resulting in a unanimous High Supreme Court decision Democrat and
Speaker 1: Republicans in Columbus saying to the clerk of course in
Speaker 1: Hamley County, hey, by the way, you can't do that,
Speaker 1: and so joining you and I now is the same
Speaker 1: judge Josh Berkowitz started this thing about a year ago,
Speaker 1: and Judge Burkerwitz, first of all, for those who may
Speaker 1: not remember a year back, can you tell the American
Speaker 1: people what this dispute was about?
Speaker 4: Sure? Thanks Bill, Thanks for having me on. It's always
Speaker 4: good talking to you. This all started back in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two, and the Supreme Court really brought it to
Speaker 4: a conclusion this week with that unanimous decision that you mentioned,
Speaker 4: and they just flat out shut it down. They really
Speaker 4: rejected what I think can be characterized as a progressive
Speaker 4: path or grab by our Clerk of Courts in Hamilton County.
Speaker 4: What he did here was assert his authority as the
Speaker 4: clerk of courts over any court record, and an issue
Speaker 4: in this case specifically, was he removed tens of thousands
Speaker 4: of municipal court eviction records from his website without any notice,
Speaker 4: without any authorization. We learned about it from a Cincinnati
Speaker 4: Enquirer article. And what he asserted could be applied to
Speaker 4: any court records. As the clerk, he gets to pick
Speaker 4: winners and losers, that he gets to decide what the
Speaker 4: public's entitled to see and what the public shouldn't know about.
Speaker 4: It's entirely contrary to the text of the Ohio Constitution
Speaker 4: and Ohio law and really the entirety of the American
Speaker 4: legal tradition. You know, the Ohio Constitution right in it
Speaker 4: says courts are open, they are presumed to open. That
Speaker 4: includes court records, and to restrict that is a judicial decision.
Speaker 4: It's got to be based on facts, it's got to
Speaker 4: be based on evidence, and it's got to be in
Speaker 4: the records so that somebody can appeal, somebody can object.
Speaker 4: And none of that happened here. He just asserted this,
Speaker 4: this blanket authority. It was a really brazen political stunt,
Speaker 4: and it's cost the taxpayers of Hamilton County eighty thousand
Speaker 4: dollars in legal fees so far, and it's really it
Speaker 4: was all really really unnecessary.
Speaker 1: And Judge Berkowitz, it began, I guess, with the idea
Speaker 1: that the clerk at courts, uniquely in Ohio, said that
Speaker 1: I will be the decider as to whether court records
Speaker 1: are open or closed to the public. It'll be up
Speaker 1: to meet to decide. And so you must have when
Speaker 1: you first heard this, you must have said, that's not well.
Speaker 1: He can't be saying that, is it true that you
Speaker 1: sought to have an eyeball to eyeball meeting with him.
Speaker 1: You representing as a presiding judge. All the judges Amwiny
Speaker 1: County Democrat and Republican, And what happened with the request
Speaker 1: let's get together and talk about this so I can
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, judges are not. We were not picking a
Speaker 4: fight here. We wanted nothing to do with this kind
Speaker 4: of conflict. My colleagues, fourteen judges on the municipal court
Speaker 4: tried for a lengthy period of time to try to
Speaker 4: resolve this thing in a reasonable fashion and agreeable way.
Speaker 4: I became the administrative and presiding judge in January of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, and I really thought, if I just
Speaker 4: could get a face to face with this guy, that
Speaker 4: we could communicate. He's an attorney, you know, Clerks of
Speaker 4: court are not required to be attorneys, but he is
Speaker 4: a lawyer, and so I just felt like, if we
Speaker 4: just sit down and go over the law as I
Speaker 4: understood it and kind of discussed the circumstances, that we
Speaker 4: could reach some sort of resolution to this thing. And
Speaker 4: he refused to meet with me. I mean this went
Speaker 4: on for a long time. Everybody who looked at it,
Speaker 4: as far as I know, and obviously in court, every
Speaker 4: judge that looked at it rejected his position as entirely
Speaker 4: contrary to law. And at every opportunity he doubled down.
Speaker 4: He doubled down over and over and over again, including
Speaker 4: as recently as in response to this decision, he put
Speaker 4: his office put out a statement, you know, making excuses
Speaker 4: and claiming to be the good guy, and well, the
Speaker 4: system's broken and therefore the cirk of courts was right
Speaker 4: to conceal all these records from the public view. And
Speaker 4: it's just completely unsupported by the facts, the evidence, and
Speaker 4: eighty thousand dollars in legal fees later. I think you
Speaker 4: ought to do the right thing. Frankly, Bill, I think
Speaker 4: he ought to pay it back. I don't think the
Speaker 4: taxpayers should have to foot the bill for all this.
Speaker 4: Pay it back, do the right thing.
Speaker 1: And the essence of this was he wanted to keep
Speaker 1: out of the public domain eviction records of a person
Speaker 1: previously evicted so that they could more easily get to
Speaker 1: run an apartment. I guess is that the essence of this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there was a little bit of moving goalposts
Speaker 4: on that on that issue, And like I told you,
Speaker 4: he never sat down with me ever, so I you know,
Speaker 4: I can't tell you exactly what he was thinking. But
Speaker 4: the argument kind of evolved in court. First of all,
Speaker 4: this was all eviction records older than three years, so
Speaker 4: without regard to what happened in the case, you know,
Speaker 4: was it granted, was it not granted? What? None of
Speaker 4: that mattered. He removed all these records from his website,
Speaker 4: and the first justification was, well, you could come down
Speaker 4: and look at the paper record at the courthouse.
Speaker 1: Problem we had with that.
Speaker 4: Is, first of all, he doesn't have the authority to
Speaker 4: do that. Second, in this community, we've relied for more
Speaker 4: than thirty years on the clerk's website, and clerks from
Speaker 4: for three decades have touted it as easy and accessible
Speaker 4: to use, and people who looked at the website once
Speaker 4: he did this would have no idea that there was
Speaker 4: a record missing, that it had been removed, and that
Speaker 4: they had to go downtown to look for it. So
Speaker 4: it was a complete you hide from the public sort
Speaker 4: of maneuver. And then it kind of evolved in court
Speaker 4: where he changed it a little bit, where it wasn't
Speaker 4: protecting people who had been evicted. He said that these records,
Speaker 4: these court records, led to misidentification and the denial of
Speaker 4: employment and housing based on race or religion. And one
Speaker 4: of the things that the Court of Appeals found was
Speaker 4: that he never presented any evidence whatsoever to support that conclusion.
Speaker 4: He never presented any evidence. He never even had a
Speaker 4: complaining party somebody who asked him to do this. It
Speaker 4: was entirely his policy, his agenda. He put it in court.
Speaker 1: He incurred this expense in the First District Court of Appeals.
Speaker 1: Are all democrats. There's a democratic judge on the Ohio
Speaker 1: Supreme Court Towne for Brunner, who agreed with you. In fact,
Speaker 1: there's no legal argument available that says the clerk at
Speaker 1: courts can union only decide to not put in the
Speaker 1: public domain the eviction wreckers or other records after previous
Speaker 1: to three years. It doesn't exist. And the fact that
Speaker 1: he's an attorney as Pavani is another great concern, because
Speaker 1: do you think right now he's complying with the High
Speaker 1: Supreme Court.
Speaker 4: Yes, he has restored those records. During the course of
Speaker 4: this appeal, he sought a stay of the First District's decision.
Speaker 4: So that he could keep that information off his website
Speaker 4: while the case while the appeal was pending. They rejected that.
Speaker 4: This was a couple months back, and so my understanding
Speaker 4: is he has restored those records. They are all now
Speaker 4: available on their website appropriately.
Speaker 1: Eighty one thousand dollars to the detriment later of the taxpayer. Lastly,
Speaker 1: I think I know how the pecking order of the
Speaker 1: courthouse works. Normally, if a judge, much less the presiding
Speaker 1: judge elected by Democrats and Republicans, as for a meeting,
Speaker 1: it would be impossible. I think for someone in maintenance,
Speaker 1: someone in the probation apartment, someone in the clerk's office
Speaker 1: is say I'm not meeting with you. And it's not
Speaker 1: a personal affront. It is the fact that the building
Speaker 1: is to Haminy County Courthouse, and the judges run the courthouse,
Speaker 1: and the judges run what happens inside the courthouse, and
Speaker 1: so to have for the first time in American history
Speaker 1: a clerk of court say, now, wait a minute, I'm
Speaker 1: going to violate the law purposely as an attorney. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to meet with the judges to explain why
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. In fact, I'm going to go to court,
Speaker 1: lose and cost the taxpayer eighty one thousand dollars. Then
Speaker 1: when I lose after about a year, I'm going to
Speaker 1: put some snarky response on my website knowing or should
Speaker 1: have known, that I'm violating the law. Has anyone thought
Speaker 1: about a taxpayer's lawsuit against him to get the money back.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of someone like, I don't know, a Tom
Speaker 1: Brinkman type, or a Chris Finney or someone to say
Speaker 1: he violated a known law, costing his money and now
Speaker 1: an acknowledge and the fact he was wrong. Is this
Speaker 1: a Chris Finny matter to get the money back?
Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you I don't think the taxpayers
Speaker 4: should have to put the bill for this. I think
Speaker 4: he should pay it back. I think he should take
Speaker 4: responsibility for what he did, admit he was.
Speaker 1: Wrong, and pay the money back.
Speaker 4: I think that we as a court absolutely are going
Speaker 4: to look into what we can do to recover that money.
Speaker 4: And I think if I was, I mean I am
Speaker 4: a taxpayer, and I think the taxpayers ought to be
Speaker 4: mad in multiple respects. Obviously they're paying for this, but
Speaker 4: you know, bill court records are important, and that's why
Speaker 4: they're written into the Ohio Constitution. Public records are important.
Speaker 4: This is how the public keeps tabs of their elected officials.
Speaker 4: This is how they know what's going on in their community,
Speaker 4: and this is how they judge. You know, is this
Speaker 4: Are these public officials effective? Are they efficient? Are they fair?
Speaker 4: Are they responsible with tax dollars? And that's why we
Speaker 4: have sunshine laws. That's why we have open courts in
Speaker 4: Ohio and around the country. And I think that that
Speaker 4: can't be overstated or overlooked. It's also why, you know,
Speaker 4: politicians have a favorite target in records. They love going
Speaker 4: after records because it's an effective way to manipulate opinion,
Speaker 4: to advance a certain policy or agenda, to do exactly
Speaker 4: what I said, to pick winners and losers. If you
Speaker 4: can control those records and who sees them, then you
Speaker 4: can really shift public sentiment on any number of issues.
Speaker 1: Now, the guy's name is Pavan Perik. He's the elected
Speaker 1: clerk at courts in Hamlet and County. As an attorney,
Speaker 1: he violated a known law, prosecuted it to a large extent,
Speaker 1: cost him the taxpayers eighty one thousand dollars in more,
Speaker 1: and now having lost, he doesn't even acknowledge his own wrongdoing,
Speaker 1: he simply moves on to the next task. Who's a judgment.
Speaker 1: I I'm certain about how he's going to exercise it.
Speaker 1: But Judge Josh Burkowitz, representing the court system, the Hamony
Speaker 1: County Municipal Court, judges Democrats and Republicans, First District Court
Speaker 1: of Appeals all Democrats sided, of course with you. High
Speaker 1: Supreme Court unanimously said you can't do that instead of
Speaker 1: accepting it. But Pavon Perik said, well, I mean I
Speaker 1: tried my best when he knew he was lying the
Speaker 1: entire time about the legality of what he was doing.
Speaker 1: But Judge Josh Burkelewitz, thanks for coming on the Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. Good luck with this guy. There's going to
Speaker 1: be more problems in the future. But Judge Burkelewitz, thank
Speaker 1: you very much.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Bill. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: God bless America. Let's continue with more. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: a public official telling the judges of Hamilty County, all
Speaker 1: of them, Number one, I'm going to violate the law.
Speaker 1: Number two, when I do it, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: meet with you. And number three, I'm going to appeal
Speaker 1: this case for the next year or two and cost
Speaker 1: the taxpayer money, then one I lose. I'm simply going
Speaker 1: to obviate or avoid obvious acknowledgment of what the law
Speaker 1: is to his own. I don't know what he's thinking about.
Speaker 1: His name is Pavan Perik, elected Clerk of Courts at
Speaker 1: Hamilton County. Wow, let's continue, Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred.
Speaker 1: Wow are moving closer? You believe the US is moving
Speaker 1: closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities? Where's your mindset on that?
Speaker 7: I can't say that right. You don't seriously think I'm
Speaker 7: going to answer that way. Will you strike the Iranian
Speaker 7: nuclear component?
Speaker 1: And what time exactly?
Speaker 5: Sir?
Speaker 8: Sir?
Speaker 1: Would you strike it? Would you please inform us so
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Speaker 1: know that I'm going to even do it.
Speaker 4: You don't know.
Speaker 1: I may do it, I may not do it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you this that.
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Speaker 7: And I said, why didn't you negotiate with maybe for
Speaker 7: all this death and destruction?
Speaker 1: Why didn't you nego?
Speaker 7: I said to the people Why didn't you negotiate with
Speaker 7: me two weeks ago?
Speaker 6: Hello, quiet, and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: Cocky. So many issues, so little time, chaos and Trump
Speaker 1: announced when Yeah, of course that's what the meaning you learned,
Speaker 1: you know, June to sixth, nineteen forty four. Tell him.
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Speaker 1: and said, hey, hey Edwin mom, we're coming for you
Speaker 1: six am sharp, get ready, uh French time six am
Speaker 1: June to six, nineteen forty four. Of it's a good
Speaker 1: death form. I got you. I have some questions for you.
Speaker 1: Rock fire Away. Day after day after day we saw
Speaker 1: your your good friend, guy Gavin k news from the
Speaker 1: governor of California talk about illegal threat to democracy. Trump
Speaker 1: can't take control of all California National Guard. He's extra judicial.
Speaker 1: He's a dictator. Remember that, yes yesterday and the unanimous
Speaker 1: Ninth Circuit US Court OFA. Now for the Ninth Circuit
Speaker 1: to get a unanimous San Francisco head San Francisco, would
Speaker 1: they say, yeah, he do that within his The media
Speaker 1: covered that to the extent that covered the other part. No. Secondly,
Speaker 1: here's the second question Ice in Homeland Security had about
Speaker 1: twenty vehicles, and they needed a place to quote stage
Speaker 1: the vehicles, to get the other talk about the plan.
Speaker 1: They go into a parking lot of Chavez Ravine Dodger
Speaker 1: Stadium at eight o'clock AM Pacific Standard time, which is
Speaker 1: five o'clock.
Speaker 8: And they do this because there's not exactly a lot
Speaker 8: of vacant land in La So the biggest place where
Speaker 8: we can park a bunch of cars is meet there,
Speaker 8: Dodger Stadium, right there in parking.
Speaker 1: So they pull in and they're talking to each other.
Speaker 1: You do this, you do that. The Dodger game is
Speaker 1: twelve hours away. Now the media gets someone calls somebody, Hey,
Speaker 1: Ice is staging arrated Dodger Stadium plaque. In the morning.
Speaker 1: It's empty, empty, nobody's there, not even the workers, nobody.
Speaker 1: So the media. Then the activists show up to surround
Speaker 1: the areas so they can't get out. The media says,
Speaker 1: now there's a dispute between the Dodgers. The Dodgers want
Speaker 1: to help. They quote immigrant community, not the illegal immigrant community,
Speaker 1: but they're so called immigrant community. Is that a big story?
Speaker 1: It's it's a big story, but it's not being reported properly.
Speaker 8: Really, they showed up at eight am to they made
Speaker 8: a sound that they showed up outside the gates as
Speaker 8: they're getting ready to let people in for the Dodger game.
Speaker 8: So reson, that's not what happened at all? The angels.
Speaker 8: Do the facts matter? No, of course, of course, So
Speaker 8: then what are you talking about.
Speaker 1: We weren't there, Homeland Security said, and I suppose said,
Speaker 1: we were surrounded by activists. Have you seen the activists
Speaker 1: holding onto the hoods of ice vehicles. It's the best
Speaker 1: thing I've known when Yeah, normally they're fat white women
Speaker 1: with purple hair, right, and they're screaming out, hollering, and
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking, Okay, they're saying, we're not going to
Speaker 1: stay your raid. Before Dodgers came with fifty four thousand people,
Speaker 1: we hit a staging area to get together the vehicles
Speaker 1: to go somewhere else. That that that's not a story though,
Speaker 1: But the other story fits correct.
Speaker 8: But every poll out there says this is what people want.
Speaker 8: You know, start with the criminals.
Speaker 1: Is there a different segment between legal and illegally? Is
Speaker 1: it the immigrant community or is it the illegal immigrant
Speaker 1: community with warrens for their arrest? Does the media report
Speaker 1: it that way? All depends on your outlook. Now, lastly,
Speaker 1: rock and Bled, you brought that up. There's a quarterback
Speaker 1: for Mueller who beats sant next this year. I might
Speaker 1: d named Ponatowski, who's really good, very good. And I
Speaker 1: guess they have this competition to the Elite eleven fight.
Speaker 8: That's that's where the top quarterbacks around the country going
Speaker 8: to compete.
Speaker 1: Yes, and he went there and just shine according to
Speaker 1: the inquiry, Yes, what do you think about that?
Speaker 8: Still monitoring this story here, But now that's good. He's
Speaker 8: got a big decision make. He was also the top
Speaker 8: baseball player in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: So what do you do now?
Speaker 8: I can test that I've heard he wants to do
Speaker 8: both there. I don't think there's any way not to
Speaker 8: go to the schools he wants to go to. If
Speaker 8: he's look, he's looking at Oregon, he's looking at Alabama,
Speaker 8: a few other schools that there's no way he can
Speaker 8: play both at those schools.
Speaker 1: Not not in play quarterback. It can't happen. Why not?
Speaker 1: Because you're Sanders.
Speaker 8: You're gonna tell Dan Lanning, the head coach of Oregon,
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna be here for all of spring practice.
Speaker 8: You know, we're organizing things. I got were playing baseball
Speaker 8: and say no.
Speaker 1: We're gonna pay you two or three million dollars. That's
Speaker 1: another factor. Correct, of course, it's a factor Vegas one
Speaker 1: right now. But by the way, I'm glad you brought
Speaker 1: that up.
Speaker 8: So so according to the NCAA case that got settled
Speaker 8: was that a month ago, athletic departments can pay twenty
Speaker 8: and a half or so million dollars to all their
Speaker 8: student athletes or to any you know in their whole
Speaker 8: athletic department. Question is gonna be how much are they
Speaker 8: still going to allow? Side and il deal side?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: You know what about Matt Race? Is a side deal somewhere.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is. But how about that?
Speaker 1: I got a text from Maller's Faithfully you ready for
Speaker 1: this one? Yes, tell the rock here we go. Tell
Speaker 1: the rock that uh that Upontowski has offers to play
Speaker 1: football and baseball at four big time schools. Tell the
Speaker 1: rock what you just said. Tell the rock right there?
Speaker 1: Tell the rock. Tell the rock is.
Speaker 5: That from.
Speaker 1: That number? Tell him what they want. But fourteen school
Speaker 1: they're not gonna let him do both. I hope it
Speaker 1: happens that'd be great. Would you be shocked? I would
Speaker 1: be not because he can't do it.
Speaker 8: It's just that, I mean, the quarterback position is the
Speaker 8: amount that falls on the on that position is unbelievable.
Speaker 8: The reps you gotta they have to take to do that,
Speaker 8: and to say I'm gonna miss a lot of spring
Speaker 8: ball to do that play baseball. Yeah, I'm just saying
Speaker 8: it's gonna be tough. If he can do it, God
Speaker 8: bless them.
Speaker 1: The president of the Maler Dad's he's got four offers
Speaker 1: accepting his parameters.
Speaker 8: Your reaction, I'm saying, they're they're gonna tell him what
Speaker 8: they want to want him to hear to get him there.
Speaker 1: And then they're, well, you know, three million dollars and
Speaker 1: you knowing about that, Matt, what do you think three
Speaker 1: million would he be a better football or a baseball
Speaker 1: player in the pros.
Speaker 8: See, I'm not seen him play baseball. I've not been
Speaker 8: to a baseball game. I've seen him play football, and
Speaker 8: he's very very good and he's only a junior. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I he rakes in baseball. The kid hits the cover off,
Speaker 8: the ball, plays shortstop, the whole deal.
Speaker 2: But another.
Speaker 1: According to Muller, high school. He will only go to
Speaker 1: schools if they agree ahead of time to play both,
Speaker 1: and all the schools will agree correct, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, I'll you Alabama's roll Tide. Yeah, that's okay,
Speaker 1: and they start.
Speaker 8: Within the four year period by the time his senior
Speaker 8: year happens.
Speaker 1: If he's playing both, Matt, Matt's got a big decision
Speaker 1: to eat your hat. Yes, you'll eat my hat. Yes,
Speaker 1: gotta get one. Yeah, segment give he said one. He
Speaker 1: got on and played golf with. How about Paul O'Neil?
Speaker 1: How about this story? Big had him on an hour
Speaker 1: and a half ago. You did? Damn I didn't hear
Speaker 1: that twelve thirty a time. You know, he's a Columbus kid,
Speaker 1: kind of a country boy. Comes down, He goes to
Speaker 1: Crossley Field and it's in the sun deck. His dad
Speaker 1: takes a picture of him with a guy named Roberto
Speaker 1: Clementing in the background wearing number twenty one, and Paul
Speaker 1: turns to his daddy's seven years old and said, Dad,
Speaker 1: I want to play for the Reds and wear number
Speaker 1: twenty one. Yeah, it says what happens? Yeah, okay, fue Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see yeah, all right. Years go buy drafted by
Speaker 1: the Reds in nineteen eighty five, right, and he's playing
Speaker 1: for the Reds and he's wearing number twenty one. It
Speaker 1: was available, he took number twenty one. Lifelong Reds fan.
Speaker 1: Then then in nineteen ninety three, your friend Bob Quinn
Speaker 1: Paul's PAULI at home and says, Paul, you've been.
Speaker 8: Traded to the Yankees. Here's the bad news. First thing,
Speaker 8: you've even traded. The good news, you're going to the Yankees.
Speaker 1: But in Paul's perspective, how was New York to live
Speaker 1: and with a wife and three kids in nineteen ninety three? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, what do you mean? Is this a joke?
Speaker 1: You know, it's not. Who's coming here? Tell him say
Speaker 1: Roberto Kelly. Whatever happened to him? So he's unhappy. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go. I got three kids, my wife Nevilliere,
Speaker 1: very religious, living in New York City with three kids.
Speaker 1: Would you do that rock with your three boy with
Speaker 1: your three boys? I don't think he had a choice.
Speaker 1: That's what he wanted. Would you do it though? If you?
Speaker 8: If you, yeah, of course you have to. What if
Speaker 8: you had a choice. I got very lucky. The four
Speaker 8: teams I played for. None of them were like big
Speaker 8: in New York.
Speaker 1: City at night.
Speaker 8: I would have hated that about dated it David Dinkins, Indianapolis,
Speaker 8: Kansas City, and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: And then he said, okay, okay, I'm trading how many rings?
Speaker 1: He's now a total of five New York City. Here
Speaker 1: we are hanging in their life as a tendency to
Speaker 1: work itself out there. Tell them, tell them about the monument.
Speaker 1: Who's in the monuments? Ruth, Gary Demaggio, Barrett whitey Ford,
Speaker 1: Bara Mickey, Mickey Mantle and Paul O'Neill.
Speaker 2: See it now.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to laugh, but I'm thinking, I know every.
Speaker 8: Time you you have him on and you tell me this,
Speaker 8: it's still got rid of him.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that guy the worst trade they
Speaker 1: ever made.
Speaker 8: Worst in fact, in that whole like sanctuary thing, they
Speaker 8: have Babe O'Neil Micky number and they retired his number
Speaker 8: number twenty one.
Speaker 1: Jeters there, what a fantastic life. Name him Duncan? How
Speaker 1: about Duncan? Not bad? Right bad? And then he was
Speaker 1: what he played in three perfect games. Only player in
Speaker 1: baseball history, mister perfect, perfect game. David Cone perfect game,
Speaker 1: David Wells only player, and in two of the three
Speaker 1: he caught the last ball. He said, the ball's coming
Speaker 1: to me. I'm going, Oh, we got rid of him.
Speaker 1: We don't want him. And he had a nice home
Speaker 1: and Montgomery still does, kept his house here and comes
Speaker 1: in down then and uh, I said, was that a
Speaker 1: good move or a bad movie? He said, it was
Speaker 1: the worst thing in my life in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: By twenty oh three, it was the best thing that
Speaker 1: ever happened. Hey, that's the thing they know and why yes,
Speaker 1: Yankee legend on, Yes, he's like Jeff Brantley to the
Speaker 1: to the I told Segma story when I'm doing my
Speaker 1: TV show and I Paul said, can I come by
Speaker 1: and watch that? I said, sure. It's like twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. He comes in the back way and we
Speaker 1: have a sales stand. We had eighty five ninety people.
Speaker 1: He walked out and when of Paul went this guy
Speaker 1: with front of mine. I want to say a few words.
Speaker 1: You would thought Ronaldo had arrived.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 1: I said, I didn't know you were this big in
Speaker 1: New York. And the ladies were going nuts, like when
Speaker 1: you when you or I get around women. You know
Speaker 1: how that goes. Yeah, they go nuts. You should have
Speaker 1: seen this. It was like, you know, Paula and you.
Speaker 9: I said, yeah, twenty years yeah, oh my god. And
Speaker 9: they're like, he used to play for the Reds Reds
Speaker 9: And I asked him, I said, are the Yankees looking
Speaker 9: forward to playing the Reds Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday?
Speaker 1: He said yeah, And we've lost six of the last seven.
Speaker 1: So he still comes back here. Oh yeah, he comes
Speaker 1: in about once a month. And we played golf. He
Speaker 1: played the Michael, but he belongs to Ken. Wouldn't we
Speaker 1: go out there with Mike Lane and Walt Sweeney and
Speaker 1: we go play golf. And I used to get in suicide.
Speaker 1: Now he gives me one aside. So it's the way
Speaker 1: it is. But the worst day of my life. Now
Speaker 1: I'm with Babe Ruth.
Speaker 8: He's got to hang in there, man, hang in the
Speaker 8: order will make things happen for you if you hang in.
Speaker 1: There, American, you gotta go where you gotta go.
Speaker 8: Where life is kind of the direction that's nudging you
Speaker 8: don't exist.
Speaker 1: It just kinda And just how many players have five rings?
Speaker 1: Not many? Say your reaction, Well, he the Studia reporters
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Speaker 1: be hot, hot, hot outside. I'm going to Naples Reds
Speaker 1: and Cardinals tonight in Saint Louis, speaking of the Big River.
Speaker 1: How about Sammy Sosa last night for the first time
Speaker 1: in twenty years. Yeah, he's at greg Leyoga, goes back
Speaker 1: to Wrigley Field. It looks a little different. It looks
Speaker 1: like he's shined up or something. I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: it is. Bleached. I don't know. Is that bleach? I
Speaker 1: think so? My mistake er on purpose? I can't say.
Speaker 1: Brady Singer goes for the Reds tonight six oh five
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Speaker 1: Extraiting show after the game. Now it's winner go home
Speaker 1: on Sunday.
Speaker 4: This is it.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma the site the Pacers v Thunder in
Speaker 1: game seven and.
Speaker 8: Twenty minutes or something last night, right, and they still
Speaker 8: be topping to scored twenty points.
Speaker 1: They were up by uh they held a thirty one
Speaker 1: point lead at one point in the second half. Over
Speaker 1: smoked him. You want to make a bet on that segment.
Speaker 1: If you're an in and opis kind of guy, I'll
Speaker 1: take Okay, See, I'll give you the pacers for a
Speaker 1: hot pudg Sunday.
Speaker 8: Youre gonna owe me one and now I don't I
Speaker 8: don't know enough about basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the home team in games. I'll we'll take yeah, sag, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have the guts, Rock, You don't have the guts.
Speaker 8: Say you got about five and a half weeks before
Speaker 8: you owe me that hot pudge Sunday from Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: Let's not bring him up, Okay, Bill Belichick, we're not
Speaker 1: a coach for the tar Heels. Write that down, Seg.
Speaker 1: You're writing that down. Write that down. Ye get me
Speaker 1: out of the Stuture report, please, will he Everybody have
Speaker 1: a good weekend and we go Reds. We leave you
Speaker 1: with the immortal words of the Stood Report. Next week's
Speaker 1: highway patrol story is a very unusual one.
Speaker 6: I hope you'll be with us until then. Remember it
Speaker 6: isn't the car that kills, it's the driver. This is
Speaker 6: Brederick Crawford saying see you next week.
Speaker 1: Let's get rid of Paul O'Neil, he can't play, bringing
Speaker 1: Roberto Kelly on news radio seven hundred ww