WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:10.720 By Billy Cunningham, The Great America. Welcome this Friday afternoon 2 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:12.599 in the tri State, getting ready, of course for Reds 3 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:15.679 baseball tonight in Saint Louis. Three games set in Saint Louis, 4 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:18.519 and back room for the Yankees. The Yankees are trembling 5 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:22.039 about playing the Reds at my ballpark, the Great American, 6 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:23.839 and we have a conversation coming up late of the 7 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.600 Paul O'Neill, who has his foot in both camps. He 8 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:29.199 considers himself more of a Yankee because he is a 9 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:31.679 minu in and minument park in center field. That's the reason. 10 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:33.880 Rather than the Reds. One of the worst trades the 11 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:37.479 Reds ever made was trading Paul O'Neill for Roberto Kelly. 12 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:40.880 Whatever happened to him. But nonetheless, more important matters are 13 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:43.079 a foot right now. Joining you and I now is 14 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:46.119 State Representative Cidny Abrams of the West Side of Town 15 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:49.000 and Sidney Abrams, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. 16 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:52.759 And relative first to the Patrick Herringer situation, who was 17 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:55.479 murdered in his home and this can you tell the 18 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.479 American people at this point there's an investigation under way 19 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:01.320 about what happened in the state. You're of your foot 20 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:04.079 also in both camps. I don't know how many lawmakers 21 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.680 have been Cincinnati police officers as you've been and a 22 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:11.480 lawmaker somewhat unusual, But who dropped the ball a notifying 23 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:14.599 the local authorities about the walking around with a knife 24 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:17.760 of Mordecai Block that resulted in the murder of Patrick Herringer. 25 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:21.200 What what was the circumstance that happened that caused that 26 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:21.640 to occur. 27 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:23.640 Well, first of. 28 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.079 All, thank you for having me on today, and I 29 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.640 will tell you that when I woke up the next 30 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.799 morning and I read about, you know, the horrific murder 31 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:36.840 of Patrick, I immediately started to ask questions and figure 32 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:39.840 out what happened and how can I, as a lawmaker 33 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.760 make positive change so that this does not happen to 34 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:45.519 someone else. Now that being said, to answer your question, 35 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:48.680 there's nobody in the General Assembly that was a Cincinnati 36 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:52.719 police officer, So there's that. So I went to work 37 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.879 immediately asking questions. You know, I talked to all all 38 00:01:56.920 --> 00:02:00.319 the parties involved, and the bottom line is this, and 39 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.319 I will start by saying this, there are so many 40 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:06.840 politicians that just stand around and take pictures with the 41 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.879 police and say we support you, and but when push 42 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:13.000 comes to shove, actions speak louder than words. 43 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.240 We were all taught that as kids, at least I was. 44 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:17.800 And at the end of the day, I am not 45 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:21.159 just standing around saying, oh, I support you guys and gals. 46 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.080 I actually take action. So what am I doing? Well, 47 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:26.240 I am. 48 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:29.639 I've done some research and I found out that at 49 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:32.560 the end of the day, there was no protocol. 50 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.719 That's what they told me, the Adult par Authority. 51 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.319 There was no protocol for them to notify that they 52 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:42.199 had to notify local law enforcement when they entered the warrant. 53 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:45.840 For I call it escape. It's not escape, it's a 54 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:49.280 wall or absconding. So when he cut the ankle monitor 55 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:54.039 off and decided not to go along with the conditions 56 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:57.120 of his release because he was a targeted violent defender 57 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:59.879 at CBO, when he walked away and decided he's going 58 00:02:59.919 --> 00:03:02.199 to to go, you know, live his best life doing 59 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:07.159 god knows what, murdering people, that was a violation. So 60 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:11.280 at that point, the Adult Pearl Authority has to enter 61 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:14.360 the warrant in Leeds, okay. And so what I'm working 62 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:17.319 on is it's going to say that the adult parole 63 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:20.240 authority shall and you know in the ORC when it 64 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:22.400 says shall, that means you have to. There's no other 65 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.479 way about it. You shall enter that warrant within twenty 66 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:30.919 four hours into leeds. And you also shall notify local 67 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:35.599 law enforcement of this violent offender on the run. And 68 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:38.960 what I mean by local law enforcement your city, your county, 69 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.840 your township, your village, and the public safety answering point 70 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:45.520 which is our communications center. That is the law that 71 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:46.159 I'm working on. 72 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:49.280 Good more and more Kai Black's case, A little birdie 73 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.759 told me that he committed numerous felonies in prison in 74 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:55.879 the nine and that years he was in prison. In fact, 75 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:59.199 he's been locked up seventeen of his last eighteen years 76 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:03.199 in prison. That he committed numerous felonies in prison. So 77 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:07.199 why wasn't he prosecuted for felonies go over the list? 78 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:12.759 Selling and using methanphetamine, shanking inmates, fights in prison, and 79 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:16.199 no point in prison was he indicted for those felonies 80 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:18.720 which would have kept him longer. Why wasn't he indicted 81 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:20.079 for selling meth in prison? 82 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.000 Well, what I see is he was under the influence 83 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:24.439 of hooch. 84 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:27.079 He was making who he was fighting he was not 85 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:31.399 obeying the guard's orders. He was under the influence of 86 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:35.000 K two and so again I'm also looking into that, 87 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:37.360 like why wasn't he charged with the additional crime in 88 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:43.120 prison and in the correct in the Administrative Code Department 89 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.000 of Corrections, they can charge him. The question was why 90 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.680 wasn't he I don't know, maybe make that in law too, 91 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:49.680 I will. 92 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:50.399 Tell all right. 93 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.600 Now another issue, he was out and he cut it 94 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:55.480 off within about a month of him being out, he 95 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:57.439 cut it off. And to get out, to have the 96 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:00.319 ankle monitor put on, he had to identify where is 97 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:03.680 he's staying, Who's he's with, who are your friends? Next 98 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:06.680 of ken, next of In other words, looking ahead to 99 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:08.959 him cutting it off, they would have had his address 100 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:13.120 next to Ken, phone numbers, et cetera. People to research. 101 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:16.920 He committed a terrible burglary like three weeks before the murder, 102 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:19.959 and at that point the victims of the burglary in 103 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:24.199 Cincinnati OTR notified the police Mordecai Black is the guy 104 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:27.720 that did it, and a no point a CPD say, okay, 105 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:31.040 let's find out. Let's go get Mordecai Black. We have 106 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.439 his last known address, we have his friends and associates, 107 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.959 he's living in OTR. Why didn't CPD say, okay, we 108 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:40.639 got this guy, let's go find him before the murder. 109 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:42.399 Well, I'll tell you. 110 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:45.199 When you enter a warrant into leads, you have to 111 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.839 have all their information, So everything about them, named data, birth, 112 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:52.800 everything you mentioned. Okay, the crime they're convicted of, everything, Okay, 113 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:59.399 And so yes, officially that LEADS that warrant for absconding 114 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:01.839 and going a wall was in there at the time 115 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:04.800 that they're investigating this other burglary that he was a 116 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:09.839 suspect of the issue is this times have changed sadly 117 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.480 over the last you know, twenty years in law enforcement, 118 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:15.480 and they're short staffed. 119 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:17.519 I mean, I remember when I took the test. There 120 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:20.040 were thirty five hundred people there at. 121 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:22.279 The convention center to take the test, and they chose 122 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:26.600 eighty of us. And so look, there's less young people 123 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:29.079 that want to do this job. But what I think 124 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:32.759 the biggest issue is is they don't feel law enforcement. 125 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.000 Our cops don't feel that they're supported. 126 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.639 So if they go out and again, look at the 127 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:40.399 shooting that just happened, right, I'm not going to any 128 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:42.560 of the bad guy's names because I'm not gonna give 129 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:45.519 them any air. But I tell you that officer waited 130 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:47.399 what a month to be cleared. 131 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:50.600 For doing your job, doing your job. 132 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:53.920 So again I think that they're short staffed. Yes, we 133 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.000 do have the CIGIC and they have the task force, 134 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.399 and they go out and round up bad guys and felons. 135 00:06:58.639 --> 00:06:59.759 But again, like I. 136 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:03.279 Said, if this was put notifying them and saying, hey, 137 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:06.399 here's what we got, go get them, I think that 138 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:09.879 that would we would absolutely prevent that murder. 139 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:13.279 Culturally, cops and you were one thirty five hundred for 140 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:18.000 eighty spots. Now CPD goes into the community to advertise 141 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:21.199 the fact please make an application. And so at this 142 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:24.639 point the cops are told directly indirectly, don't be aggressive, 143 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:27.800 don't take a handful of warrns. I was told twenty 144 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.319 years ago the cops would show up, not much going on, 145 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.199 I take a handful of warns, go find these guys. 146 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.759 That doesn't happen anymore, right, That's. 147 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:38.439 Right, we did that. I mean, whether it's that or 148 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:39.639 whether it's stolen cars. 149 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.519 I mean I remember again back in the day, you 150 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:45.720 would tape all the license plates and making models of 151 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.720 every stolen car that's in the area, so you would 152 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:49.439 go look for those two and you had time. 153 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:49.959 Don't do that. 154 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:53.040 But again, like I said, now, I mean, are you 155 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.120 supportive when you get a stolen car and get in 156 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:57.120 a pursuit of a felon and then they run from 157 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:58.079 you and full of gun I. 158 00:07:58.000 --> 00:07:59.600 Mean that's the question. 159 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:04.079 Well, this cop waited six weeks to be cleared, and 160 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.480 he was on desk duty for a while and the 161 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:09.920 message was sent. Was he close to getting indicted? I 162 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:12.240 don't think so. I think Connie Pillach did a good 163 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.759 job at the news conference and laid it out. But 164 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:17.279 the next next time might be a little closer, might 165 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:19.360 be quick. You have to make a split second life 166 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.079 and debt decision. Make the wrong one, your life is over. 167 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:25.360 So the law will be called? What to Sidney Abrams? 168 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:28.040 What will be the law called? When this thing changes? 169 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.959 My plan is to name it, of course, with Sarah's permission, 170 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:35.519 is to name it after Patrick Patrick Karendra. 171 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:38.440 Yeah act and maybe in the future there'll be something 172 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:41.879 good and valuable coming of it. Let's talk briefly about 173 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.159 the Larry Henderson Act. I know law enforcement cares about 174 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:47.639 this one too. What would that do Officer Larry Henderson 175 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.559 who was murdered by the father of the kid that 176 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:53.840 was shot in the business of stealing cars. What is 177 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:55.000 the Larry Henderson Act. 178 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:56.919 Yeah? 179 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.519 So again after that horrific, So I thought about, okay, 180 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:04.039 what is current law. So, when you are convicted of 181 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.639 aggravated murder of a law enforcement officer, this is current law. 182 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:12.039 Your sentencing choices are death okay, the death bounty, or 183 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:16.279 life in prison with parole. And there's you know, you know, 184 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.879 ten twenty, thirty, forty fifty years where you can come 185 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:19.600 up for parole. 186 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:20.080 Okay. 187 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.480 So then I thought to myself, first of all, why 188 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:25.159 is it only law enforcement officers? You know, we should 189 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:27.879 include all of our first responders, right, so every police 190 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:31.279 officer right the city, county, od and our corrections troopers, 191 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:35.200 everybody including the FEDS, and our first responders are firefighters, 192 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:38.200 are emt are paramedic, and our military members. If you 193 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:41.399 wear a uniform, this act is going to protect you. 194 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:45.600 Someone kills you on purpose, they have a plan, They 195 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.720 do it on purpose. They're convicted of aggravated murder. Your 196 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:52.360 sentencing choices are death or life without parole. I am 197 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:55.320 sick and tired of the assault on the people that 198 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:58.480 are here keeping us safe every single day. 199 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.000 Because at this point, if you can I'm a police officer, 200 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.480 a first responder, someone with the fire department, whatever, you 201 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:08.960 can get to life imprisonment, but it doesn't mean without parole. 202 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:12.440 In fact, there was a cop killer about ten years 203 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:15.159 ago who was paroled and he's now living on the 204 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:18.159 beaches of California, which is incredible, and god knows, a 205 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:21.799 future governor might say, it's really the death penalty largely 206 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:26.159 is unused completely now and people talk about life without 207 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:29.879 possibility of parole. But the governor can still issue a pardon. 208 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.639 And we had Dick Celeste do that in mass about 209 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.399 thirty years ago, that he took everybody off death row 210 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:39.240 and gave them the possibility of parole. But this law 211 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:41.919 that Larry Henderson Act would keep that from occurring. Is 212 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.720 that true? Or could a future governor down the road say, anyway, well, 213 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.720 even though Sidney Abrams would like to have somebody in 214 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:50.720 prison for the rest of their life, after all, this 215 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:53.960 guy was young, he was disadvantaged, he's already been serving 216 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:57.679 thirty thirty five years and as a consequence, let's pardon him. 217 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:00.600 Does that eliminate the governor's part in power. 218 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:04.600 No, but I guess the question would have to be asked, like, 219 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:07.480 as governor, are you going to live with that when 220 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:08.519 they come out and kill again? 221 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.600 But you have to live with that in my opinion. 222 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:14.120 All right now, all you can do is a lawmaker 223 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:16.679 is do the law and then whatever the well, it 224 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:19.200 is despicable and last night another kid was killed and 225 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:22.639 over the rhine last night again every day, and we're 226 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:24.639 told by city fathers and mothers they have to have 227 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:27.720 pure of all that it's a safe community. You know, 228 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:30.759 there's about twenty thousand shots fired every year according to 229 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:34.720 shot Spotter in the city of Cincinnati, twenty thousand shots fired, 230 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:38.200 only five hundred people are wounded. It's a terrible circumstance. 231 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:41.039 It begins with law enforcement. And when there's one cop 232 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:44.679 between the Ohio River and North otr at three o'clock 233 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:46.840 in the morning, that's a problem. And the fact that 234 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.559 cops are reticent about doing their job because of fear 235 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:53.000 of retribution, that's a problem. Let's move to issue number 236 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:56.039 two if we can. Tony Bender, many others may have 237 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:59.039 a dog and what is the dog bill? I know 238 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:02.399 it's called the aver rebill, And what is the dog bill, 239 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:05.120 We had some of these vicious pit pulls running around 240 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:08.360 biting people, killing people, biting off parts of their body. 241 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:12.759 And what does the new dog Bill do if anything? 242 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.759 Well, so what happened not just down here in Cincinnati, 243 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:20.559 but across the state. We had devastating, horrific people that 244 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:24.720 were severely injured or killed by these dogs running around 245 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:26.879 with no supervision from their owners. 246 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:33.960 There was a older woman over in Circleville. She was 247 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.279 out literally just pulling the weeds in her front garden 248 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:40.360 bed and she was mauled to death. 249 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:45.639 And so that whenever something horrific happens, of course it 250 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.799 gets you know, the attention of lawmakers to take a 251 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.440 look at Okay, now, what are we doing here? And 252 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.000 what all this comes down to? This personal responsibility. That's 253 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:57.320 all it is. You have a dog, you are responsible 254 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:00.200 for that dog. And we're not talking about if someone 255 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.279 is messing with the dog, you know, you're wrestling with 256 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:04.879 the dog, or you're provoking it. No, we are talking 257 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:08.840 about unprovoked attacks. Just like Avery. She was eleven years old. 258 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.840 She went over for a playdate at her friend's house 259 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:16.360 and these the dogs mauled her so horrifically. She was 260 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:19.879 severely injured. She's had multiple surgeries, and let me tell you, 261 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:21.679 if you have a few minutes, you need to watch 262 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:25.120 Public Safety Committee when she came in and she gave testimony. 263 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:28.200 She is a strong twelve year old young lady and 264 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.039 we are so proud for sharing her story. And so 265 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:34.039 what this bill does basically is it holds dog owners 266 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:36.919 accountable for unprovoked attacks. 267 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:39.360 You're responsible for that dog. If you let it. 268 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:42.080 Run around the neighborhood and it bites a running or 269 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:44.559 walking or a kid riding its bike, shame on you. 270 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:46.720 It's going to be a criminal penalty. You'll have a 271 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:49.519 misdemeanor if it's serious injury and I'm one, and if 272 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:52.120 it kills, if your dog kills somebody, it's going to 273 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.200 be a felony of the fourth degree. We're tired of it. 274 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:57.120 We're sending a message and it's going to give the 275 00:13:57.159 --> 00:14:00.240 dog warden the authority to take the dog, and then 276 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.559 you're going to have due process in court. Every will 277 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:05.600 have their court and the judge will declare whether that 278 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:06.759 dog's going to be put. 279 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:07.080 Down or not. 280 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:10.200 So the one bite rule is done. One bite is done. 281 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:13.480 A person with a vicious dog is held accountable. You 282 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:15.080 buy everything that dog does. 283 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:15.559 Now. 284 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.799 Lastly, head on a lawmaker. It might have been the 285 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:22.200 speaker Matt Huffman about a week or two ago. And 286 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:24.480 there's a vote we're going to have in Ohio in 287 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.519 November or in May that will eliminate all real estate 288 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:32.080 property taxes. You give the American people a chance to 289 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:35.120 eliminate real estate property taxes, they're likely to do it. 290 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:38.840 And that means there goes the funding for the schools, 291 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:42.879 police and fire, et cetera. And then he said that 292 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:45.960 if that goes out the window, that the sales tax 293 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:50.120 will be twenty percent. So that means everybody that has 294 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:53.279 a big purchase will go to Covington, will go to Batesville, 295 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:55.679 they'll get the hell out of Ohio to buy something 296 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:59.440 because who's going to pay twenty percent sales tax? Getting 297 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:02.639 rid of real lif state taxes. That's a great idea. However, 298 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:04.039 what's the downside? 299 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.399 Well, actually it sounds the folks that are collecting signatures. 300 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:12.039 I would caution everyone. I would say, please do not 301 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:16.320 sign that petition. And here's why, listen, I live in Harrison, Ohio. 302 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:20.559 They're fiscally responsible here, they're conservative, they're not wasting money. 303 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:25.440 If property taxes were totally eliminated, we would not the 304 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:27.879 City of Harrison would not be the City of Harrison 305 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:29.440 as it is. Now, what do I mean by that? 306 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:33.440 Their police, their fire, their streets department, you know, the 307 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:35.799 guys that come out and keep our roads safe and 308 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:38.759 fill potholes and whatnot. While the snow, all of that 309 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:42.679 would be totally gone, and the property taxes are used 310 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:45.879 to pay for things like I just mentioned, please fire roads, 311 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:49.320 right and the whole nine yards, our schools educating our children. 312 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:52.120 So yes, the speaker is totally right. We the General 313 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.399 Assembly would have to say, Okay, well, how are we 314 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:57.480 going to fund all these things? Because I mean, at 315 00:15:57.519 --> 00:15:58.960 the end of the day, you have to now what 316 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:01.240 I will say in the budget. And we're working on 317 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:03.840 the Conference committee. Now I'm not in the conference committee. 318 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.000 It's three House members, three Senate members, and they're working 319 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.519 on the differences between the House and the Senate budget. 320 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:10.360 But at the end of the. 321 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:14.559 Day, we are trying to deliver property tax relief for ohiolands. 322 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:16.320 We get it, We also pay it. 323 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:18.360 We all have a tax bill that we pay, and 324 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:21.480 so we are trying to deliver property tax relief to 325 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:25.960 ohiolands while still funding schools, our local government fund, medicaid, 326 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:28.840 the Department of Corrections, Department of Youth Services, state patrol, 327 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:29.759 you get the program. 328 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:32.399 I mean, the state pays for a lot of. 329 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:36.240 Things, yeah, including police and fire and getting the streets 330 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:40.519 under control. But once again State Representative sending Abras, thanks 331 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.919 for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show this Friday afternoon. 332 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:46.440 The budgets all that stuff important, and we have people 333 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:50.440 like Mordecai Black running around OTR, which is a almost 334 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:53.559 like Tombstone, It's like the Ok Corral, and all of 335 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:55.679 a sudden, a good man and a good woman, a 336 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:59.639 man's life's taken defending Sarah against his fish's criminal because 337 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.480 this State to Ohio and city police together did not 338 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:05.680 go find this guy. And after he burglarized his ex 339 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:08.240 girlfriends whom I can't imagine being the ex girlfriend of 340 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:11.160 Mordecai Black, and she identifies him as the person that 341 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.000 did it and is simply laid there. And three weeks 342 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:18.480 later he murdered Patrick Herringer in his home. Something's got 343 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:21.799 to be done. But Sidney Abrams, thanks again. Continue to 344 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:24.160 have a great day, and we'll talk later and after 345 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:26.720 the budget has approved, and Sidney Abrams, thank you for 346 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.440 coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And you're a great American. 347 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:32.759 Thank you very much, thanks for having me. Let's continue 348 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:35.960 with more if a line becomes available. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, 349 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:38.880 seven thousand. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you every day. 350 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:41.079 You're Home of the Reds and so much more. News 351 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.240 Radio seven hundred WLW. All right, let's continue now. Red's 352 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:47.759 playing Saint Louis tonight. Of course, the Yankees are looking 353 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:50.119 forward to their big three game series at My Ballpark 354 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:53.000 The Great American on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. And one 355 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:55.599 of the television stars of the New York Yankees Network 356 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:58.720 is the Great Number twenty one, Paul O'Neil. Paul O'Neil, 357 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.680 welcome again to the Bill cunn Show. First of all, Paul, 358 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:03.759 I got a big question for you. Are you prepared 359 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:04.400 for this question? 360 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:06.319 Yeah? 361 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:07.240 Go ahead, Willie. 362 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:08.839 I don't know if it's coming from you, I don't know. 363 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:09.680 Go ahead. 364 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:13.200 If you were not traded to the Yankees for Roberto Kelly, 365 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:17.400 would you have a monument at my Ballpark The Great American? 366 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:21.079 Could you see the O'Neill career being what it was 367 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:22.440 if you stayed as a Red. 368 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:25.480 You know what, I really don't think, so I don't 369 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:29.640 know why I wasn't. I mean, we had the one 370 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:33.480 World Championship one for certain us to switch a little bit. 371 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:35.480 But you know, I was very fortunate. I went to 372 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:37.079 New York at a great time, got to play with 373 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:39.799 great teams, and you know, we accomplished a lot. 374 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.400 Well, on the day you were traded, I guess Bob 375 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:44.400 Quinn or somebody called you and say, hey, Paul were 376 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:47.240 trading to the Yankees. Well, didn't you feel at one 377 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:49.839 point sad that was happening because you were leaving Like 378 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:53.200 you're You're from Columbus, this is your hometown team. You're 379 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:56.720 a crosley Field looking at Roberto Clemente, you became number 380 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.920 twenty one. Didn't you feel kind of down in the 381 00:18:58.960 --> 00:18:59.920 dumps when you were traded? 382 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.440 Oh? Absolutely, I mean it's you know, when you're traded, 383 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:05.759 you always feel like, you know, I didn't do enough. 384 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.200 You felt like you let people down, and obviously when 385 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.720 you're playing at home or close to home, this was 386 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:12.440 you know, I was a Reds fan growing up in 387 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:15.680 the Midwest, so I was disappointed. I didn't know what 388 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:18.240 to expect in New York. But you know that's the 389 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.440 way the game goes sometimes. And you know, looking back, 390 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:23.880 either a huge opportunity for me. 391 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:26.799 And you know, looking back, looking back, you got a 392 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:32.559 monument next to Babe Ruth. Anyway, let's talk about this 393 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.359 series coming up. I know the Yankees probably are not 394 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:39.319 really excited about coming to Cincinnati, but you are that 395 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:41.880 you still have a home here. You play golf here 396 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:43.839 with a few of your buddies now and then, and 397 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:48.079 you do all the work and the Yankees Entertainment System, 398 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.359 you do all the television games. But do the Yankees 399 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:53.960 care about coming to the Great American Ball Parker do 400 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:55.759 the Yankees think what the hell are we doing this for? 401 00:19:56.880 --> 00:19:56.920