Speaker 1: WMNH Rip the Dobles.
Speaker 2: This is Eleanor Langthorne from Vices Inc. And you're listening
to Matt Connorton Unleashed on ninety five point three w
m n H.
Speaker 3: Time stands still my drink moble pulling air into my chest. Oh,
I know, visit instant dandy, It's gone out and flow.
Speaker 4: Let the current take me.
Speaker 5: Tide. Let's time. Let's time. We are less time and
think time is time. Let's still morning.
Speaker 6: Sorry seconds flow, lean up my glass san zero, tip
me over, take.
Speaker 5: Me back to se why my day?
Speaker 7: To that lifeple less song, sample game.
Speaker 5: To that summer veto.
Speaker 8: So never read off, walking to run.
Speaker 9: Dancing across the surface of the sun, goes around, chase
it down, He's eat it forty half it's slip.
Speaker 10: So oh, time.
Speaker 5: Less time, let's time, we are less time.
Speaker 7: Then we thinging time less time.
Speaker 3: Left till the moments satdery.
Speaker 11: Oh my god, that is great. That's brand new.
Speaker 1: Huh thanks man, Yeah, brand new.
Speaker 11: Wow, that is fantastic. If you're just joining us, Willie
Chases here with us live in studio on this Saturday morning.
That's very cold Saturday morning. But yeah, that's how new
was that. You said you just wrote that with a
friend who didn't know you were going to play it today.
Is that true?
Speaker 1: That's pretty accurate.
Speaker 12: We just had our last co writing session maybe a
week ago, and I had written the song thread probably
five or six months ago. It sat for a while
in my in my voice notes on iPhone, as a
lot of them do, and then I threw it over
to my friend Ian Gallipo, who's from the Keen area,
and he liked it, kind of wrote a chorus to it,
maybe some verse parts, I think, and then we just
put our heads together over a video.
Speaker 1: Chat and kind of hammered it out.
Speaker 12: I had written that bridge, and yeah, it kind of
came together, and then I was kind of like, holy cow,
have a song, you know what I mean, which is
a really cool moment as a songwriter.
Speaker 11: I feel like Ian Gallipos a name that's come up
on the show. I don't think he's ever been on.
I always say I don't think he's ever been on,
because it does become I've been doing this a long time.
It does become a little bit of a blur, of course,
but I don't think he's been on the show. But
I feel like, his name comes up a lot on
the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's awesome. So I work a lot with the
New Hampshire Music Collective.
Speaker 11: That might be how I've why I've heard his name.
Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, so he's he's, you know, a member of
the collective as well, does all sorts of stuff with
that and other things.
Speaker 1: But that's how I met him. And he's great.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 12: If you've never heard his song little Things, check it out.
It's a gut wrencher be ready to cry. Yeah, But
he's just an incredible lyricist. He's an incredible musician and
a down to earth guy. You know, he's really enjoyable
to be around. So I had a really good experience
writing with him, you know. In the level that I'm
at right now, there's no skin in the game really,
you know what I mean. I'm kind of just starting
out on the songwriting journey over the last few years.
Speaker 11: Really.
Speaker 12: Yeah, And I've been a musician my whole life. I
can fill you in on the back story if you want.
But with the end, it's just great because we it's
just pure creativity, you know what I mean. Two musicians
hanging out writing a song. There's no pressure to do anything,
and for whatever reason, I was just kind of had
that feeling when we were doing that together, and and
that's what it's all about for me. Yeah, those kind
of experiences and writing music and being just purely creative.
Speaker 11: No doubt. So you you've been a musician for a
long time, as you said, but you only started writing
songs a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I quote unquote have written other stuff.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I was a horn player in high school. I was
our class instrumentalist. I was in like every music group,
did all of it, show choir, I did a lot
of theater.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 12: I started in high school musical when I was in
high school, all sorts of you know of stuff to
leave me on my musical journey. And then I kinda
I kind of went a totally different direction for the
last decade. I got a degree in resort management and
have worked at ski resorts and done all men or
of other things. But I never put down the guitar.
That's kind of what kept it alive for me. And
then yeah, like three years ago, I had a really
good friend who was living around here, and she convinced
me to go to an open mic up at Patrick's
Pub in Guildford, New Hampshire. That's where I met John MacArthur,
who's one of the owners of the New Hampshire Music Collective.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we had him on the show. He's great.
Speaker 12: Yeah, he's awesome. Can't say enough good things about him.
And you know, especially in this context with the opportunities
he's given me playing a lot of these bar gigs
and stuff around here, which is just it's like with anything, right,
if you want to be really good, you got to
just put in time and hard work. It's kind of
the grind that I've been on these last few years
since doing that.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I've.
Speaker 12: Like I said, I've been a musician my whole life,
and I have a really I lean really heavily on
my ear. Yeah, and I can be judgmental in that way.
So I think, as most musicians will probably tell you,
there's a lot of stuff that goes on with songwriting
in terms of being hyper critical of yourself and self confidence,
releasing tracks and everything.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's a slow process.
Speaker 12: But I'm in early production of making a record hopefully,
and you know, that might be one of the songs
that's going to be on it.
Speaker 11: Oh, I hope so yeah, yeah, it deserves it.
Speaker 12: That's totally good. Yeah, that's very kind of neat to say.
I yeah, it's it's something I'm really interested in. But
like I said, it's it's just tough not to be
able to overly critical. But at this point in my life,
on my early thirties, I feel like it's a really
good place to be doing what I'm doing with music.
I think that if I had gone right into music
school like I kind of wanted to after high school,
after doing all that stuff, I don't think it would
have gone well. I think I was on the edge
of burnt out really because yeah, I mean we had
jazz band practices every morning before school. At six forty,
it was taking trumpet lessons. It's just completely saturated in music. Yeah,
and not really knowing you know, at that point in
my life, you know, late teens, early twenties, you're just
figuring out who you are, right. So all the experiences
I've had over the last ten years of not being
involved in music, I think have just fueled this crazy
fire that I have now to write and collaborate with
people and just really like I just started taking guitar
lessons a couple you know, maybe a month or two
ago with a really great guy. So I'm actually put
some of the old theory knowledge that I have to
use with like the fifteen years of guitar playing, just
playing songs that I like to hear and play. Yeah,
So it just feels really, really awesome, and I'm really
grateful to be here doing what I'm doing now.
Speaker 11: You know, during the span of time where you you know,
you had kind of gotten away from it all, did
you always kind of know that you would come back
to it, or did you really at the time kind
of feel like you know that was you know, I'm
sort of done with that. I'm sort of burnt out
on it.
Speaker 12: If you asked me that question years ago, I probably
would have told you the latter. I probably would have
told you now, you know, And I think that comes
from being jaded and my no, through no fault of
his own, my trumpet teacher was one of the ones
who convinced me not to go to school for like
performance really yeah, which how much of that was actually
him and how much of it was in my head?
I can't really tell you, but you know, and his
point was very valid. You know, forty years ago there
was just so many horn players working in places like
New York. Boss, you know, all these clubs and theaters
have live orchestras, and now it's just a percentage of
what that was. So yeah, the statistics just make it
pretty daunting. Yeah, but I think subconsciously, very deep down there,
to answer your question, I think it was inevitable of
coming back to music. I mean, it's just such a
part of me. It's part of who I am, been
part of who I am since a very young age.
And like I said, you know, I rely heavily on
my ear. I don't like to say I have a
good ear because it's like what does that mean? But
I just the way I hear music and interpret music
is so ingrained with everything else about me, and it
affects my you know, emotions, It affects my goals, it
affects you know. So I think it was it was inevitable.
Speaker 11: Yeah, no doubt. Well I'm dying to hear another one.
If you want to play.
Speaker 1: Another live shirt for us, Yeah, if.
Speaker 11: You're just joining us, will he chases here with us
alive in studio and playing some stuff and that guitar sounds.
I love the way that guitar sounds.
Speaker 1: Thanks man, Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 12: Since you can't see it, it's a rain song, fully
composite guitar. It's fully made of carbon fiber, and really yeah,
the whole thing that, the bridge, the body, everything, the
whole thing's carbon fiber. And the reason I got it
was I've I've got an old tailor that I really
really love, which you know, it's not a special instrument
by most people's standards, but it is to me. And
playing all these gigs, like playing outside a lot, playing
around campfires all my friends, was just getting trashed. So
you know, I saved up some tip money and got
this thing, and it just holds tune really consistently. I
don't have to worry as much about it. But it
turns out that despite all of that, it's a really
fun guitar to play, and it sounds great plugged in.
You know, it's a little tinny acoustically if you're gonna
make it up, because it's not very it's pretty cold.
But right, right, So this next song, I go a
bunch of different directions, so forgive me, but this is
what I like to call cheap country song. But this
this song, it has some country roots, but it's it's
it's deeper than that. It's about kind of being in
a bad place and this vision I had of of,
you know, if I didn't kind of get my act
together and you know, have a few less beers and
stop feeling sorry for myself. It was kind of a
place where I was gonna end up. So it's a
little bit about that. But yeah, this song is called
I don't know what this song is called. Oh I
guess it's called Pushing my Luck something like that. Okay,
so it's a country song and g about that.
Speaker 11: All right? There we go Willie Chase live.
Speaker 3: Mama's in the kitchen here, he's in New York. Dog's on.
Speaker 5: Then. I ain't got it too far.
Speaker 3: I keep on living here, you keep on growing. I'm
burying my money out in backyard, down on my luck,
strutting my stuff. It's wearving me down. I'm ana sweeter,
I'm tough. I ain't done a lot. It's getting hard
the baby I make it too far. It's time keeps
moving like in the north.
Speaker 4: And blow in.
Speaker 5: That's one thing knows right where it's going.
Speaker 3: I tried and mon on, but I just couldn't stays wrong,
So I cracking another bottle.
Speaker 5: Try to make a quick fuck. Man, I know that
I'm pushing my luck.
Speaker 4: And pushing up.
Speaker 5: Out here. The bullets third night are running thirty minutes.
Speaker 8: Colls.
Speaker 3: She don't think it's funny. She's pissed off from pissed
drunk family. In of that, all the things I can handle.
So I'll just talk to mister Daniels. Because time keeps
moving in the whiskey kings flow in, drump me nose
right away, I'm going. I tried and moving on, but I.
Speaker 4: Just couldn't stays wrong.
Speaker 3: So I cracking another bottle, try to make a quick fuck.
Cause man, I know, and I'm pushing my up. You
haven't pushing my love. Yeah, I'm pushing my up. Mama's
in the kitchen, he's in the yard, dogs all the
bed and man, I'm trying to up. I keep on
drinking there, you keep on leaving, burying my soul out
in the backyard. Because time keeps moving, like can the
north wind blowing.
Speaker 4: That's one thing.
Speaker 3: Knows right where it's going. I tried and moving on,
I just couldn't stay strong. So I cracking up the bottle,
try to make a quick. Fuck man, I know what,
I'm pushing my up.
Speaker 4: I am pushing my yeah, I'm pushing that.
Speaker 11: That is really good.
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks man, really good.
Speaker 11: Willie Chase us here with us live in studio and
uh yeah, that's fantastic. I love her.
Speaker 1: Voice, appreciate it.
Speaker 11: Is there anyone who influences you vocally? Is there anyone
you try to kind of sound like?
Speaker 12: It's probably an amalgamation of like twenty five people. Yeah, yeah,
there'd be some easy ones to name, But honestly, recently,
I've just been trying to sound like me. I think
in the past I've tried to sound country singing country
because of like the way I listen to music. I like,
if I love a song, I'll just try to play
it sound just like it, you know what I mean, Yeah,
which gives me great satisfaction to be able to be like, yeah,
I can play that song right. One thing I'm kind
of figuring out or thinking more about now that I'm
writing my own stuff is just, you know, how to
I sound like me? How do I convey even if
it's that feeling? But but you know, be unique? So
but but yeah, vocally, I mean, you know, I'm sure
a lot of people would say this is an influence.
But Chris Stapleton, I think has an amazing voice. You know,
he's he's great. I'm a little below that, so you know,
I would I would say another vocal influence, even though
I don't think he's a great vocalist.
Speaker 1: I don't like being negative.
Speaker 12: But but David Gilmore, Yeah, you know, I think the
way that he sang was just really soulful and honest.
Speaker 11: I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, he's not a
great like from a technical stand right, He's there's nothing
great about him at all. But yeah, but you're right though,
for what he's doing, for what Pink Floyd is supposed
to sound like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know. And I was fortunate when I
was younger, I had some good coaches. I had.
Speaker 12: One of our theater directors was a Boston Pops pianist,
great woman, Jill Wriggles, God Rest your soul and she.
Speaker 1: You know, that was a lot of like theater based stuff.
Speaker 12: So yeah, I think from early on I had a
good foundation of like brief and you know, despite the
fact that I'm sitting back in my chair, like sitting
on that sit on the front of your chair like
put vocal support, you know, single and then also YouTube great,
there's great like vocal instructors on YouTube that can give
you tips on warming up and all this stuff. So yeah,
I don't know if that answered your question, but oh definitely.
Speaker 11: I don't know if you notice I kind of reacted
when he said Chris Stapleton, because if I were to
choose all the singer songwriters we've had on the show
over the years, if I were to choose the number
one name that comes up in conversation as far as influence,
it's Chris Staple. Yeah, everybody.
Speaker 1: He's a monster.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean just you know, in the years he
spent writing before he was, you know, pop famous. I
especially like his stuff he did with the steel Drivers.
Speaker 11: I've never I've never heard any of that Steel Drivers.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they're they're a bluegrass group, and he was he
was there frontman and guitarist.
Speaker 11: I didn't even know that. Huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Check it out, man. They've got a bunch of great tunes.
Blue Side of the Mountain, Angel of the Night, that's one. Sorry,
do you don't mind if I play a few minutes?
Speaker 5: No, go ahead, I love it.
Speaker 1: This is the steel Driver's Angel of the Night.
Speaker 3: Well, the music is playing in you have the Whiskey Saloon.
It comes through my window. I like my favorite tune.
I can walk down the stairway, I can walk down
the street, laid down my money.
Speaker 13: Well it's not God, I mean, let me fly on
your wings rather these earthly things they did all be
alright Angel of the Night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's Chris Stapleton and the Steel Drivers.
Speaker 11: I've heard that song. I had no idea who it was,
but I recognize that song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great tune.
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, no, that's that's really good. That's really good.
You do a lot of when you play live. Do
you do a lot of covers or yeah?
Speaker 12: Mostly covers. Yeah, I've got almost an hour of original
music that can do. I'll stretch it and do a
little storytelling. Yeah yeah, but but yeah, mostly covers. I mean,
you know, for the for the gigs that I'm doing
right now, you know, the main point is entertaining everybody
at the bar and stuff, and you know, oftentimes people
respond well to my music, which is you know, just
great and validating, and but you know, people want to
hear what they want to hear, right when they're having
a beer, which is which I totally understand, and I
think I kind of love that. You know, I look
at those gigs as a challenge. You know, how do
you get people's interest, how do you get foot feet tapping?
You know, how do you get people turning around and going, WHOA,
who's this guy?
Speaker 1: Right? Or whatever?
Speaker 12: And that's a challenge to me. And I mean, you
know that's that's how you make tips. Any performer will
tell you. But yeah, financially it's a good strategy. But
but that's you know, from the beginning, that's always been
the fun part. It's like, how do you get people
to notice you? Because that means they're enjoying it, right,
They're having a cool experience, they're listening to the music.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. How did you get involved with
the with John MacArthur and the Collective because that's again
such a great organization. And we had John on the show,
and you know, we've had a lot of musicians on
the show who who work with them. And John, by
the way, is he's very very busy. Like when he
told us we were talking about the events, how many
events they do, and he told us the number that
he personally is at running. It's like, dude, you don't sleep.
It's staggering, which I which I admire. You know, But
but but how did how did you get involved?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 12: So I I met John He I mean now hosts,
but he goes to open mics around and kind of
you know, looks for talent a little bit, I think,
but uh, yeah, I met him at Patrick's Pub, Guildford.
We kind of hit it off and exchanged information. And
you know, at that point, I didn't have three hours
of consistent songs that I could play that were all
polished and yeah and done. You know, so it took
me a little while, but I played a bunch of
voting mics and and got my act together, and you know,
John and I kind of became friends. He would, uh,
he would give me a call. We live pretty close
to each other up there in the Lakes region, so
he'd give me a call.
Speaker 1: We'd go out and see somebody.
Speaker 12: You know, I'm I'm not afraid to share my opinion
about other people, I guess in a friendship situation, which
is but you know, I've been around a lot of
music in my life and been around really good musicians
and and you know, regardless of whatever, whatever I play,
I think I have a pretty good idea of you know,
who's doing what or who's who's been practicing.
Speaker 1: That's really all that comes down, right.
Speaker 12: But yeah, so we would go off for fun and
and you know, he would kind of ask my opinion
about people. And you know, I'm not trying to say
that I'm judging jury but or anything, but we just
kind of enjoyed it. You know, we enjoyed each other's
presence and hanging out and talking about music and and
and John's just such a great guy.
Speaker 1: You know, he's you.
Speaker 12: Know, in an in an industry that and I haven't
experienced this really, but in an industry there's a reportedly
very cutthroat people will say about music and arts and
you know, getting gigs and stuff. John is just somebody
who genuinely cares about everybody he works with. He genuinely
wants everybody to succeed. And he'll give you an opportunity
if you're working hard, no matter you know who we are,
what you look like, what you're doing, what kind of
music you're playing. He's just able to recognize people who
are there for the right reasons and are working hard.
So I really respect that about John and his partner Brad,
who's the other half of the New Hampshire Music Collective,
who's an unbelievable guitarist. I'll have to recommend you his
him for the show too. But yeah, but but yeah,
just John. You know, John's awesome, so from there, you know,
he was he was gracious enough to give me some
gigs and you know, and I can crush the bar
gain pretty well. I have a lot of nineties tunes
and I just I know, so like I just listened
to so many different types of music that I have
this kind of weird catalog. But it works great for
that situation, right because you never know who's going to
be in there.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Certain, you know, you think a lot of country, but
then like you play something yeah anyway, you know you
know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, yeah, So I've done
pretty well with the bar gigs and we have a
great thing going.
Speaker 1: You know. I love working with those guys. It, yeah,
helps me. It's a great side hustle.
Speaker 12: I do still have a day job unfortunately, but but yeah, no,
it's awesome all around.
Speaker 11: It's so important to find people who are who are
positive and honest, and you know, there are a lot
of sharks, you know, so to be able to connect
with somebody like John and the NH Music Collective, it's
so important. When we had Rebecca Turmel on the show
and we were talking about that too, because it's I
do feel like there, you know. I mean, there's there's
some people you want to avoid, but I think generally,
I think the music scene, at least around here, is
people are pretty supportive of each other and want to
work together and uplift each other. I always contrast it
with I've listened to some podcasts over the years of
stand up comics, and that my impression of that world
of stand up comedy. I mean, it's all part of
live entertainment, but stand up comedy, as far as I
can tell, is very cutthroat, like everyone secretly hates each other,
everyone secretly wants to see each other fail, you know
what I mean. That's just the impression that I get,
the vibe that I get from it. Whereas I think, yeah,
there's there's always people you want to be careful of,
but I think generally people are pretty supportive in the
music scene and yeah cool, you know, and and why
not be you know it doesn't, right, None of it's
a zero sum game. You know, life is not a
zero s game. Just because somebody else is being successful,
that doesn't take something away from you. If anything, it
should inspire you to maybe be able to do what
they're doing, you know.
Speaker 12: So absolutely, that's a great perspective. And that's been my
experience or in the music scene around here. And I'm
sure you've seen way more than I've been exposed to.
But yeah, so it's it's great. I think we got
a great thing going on.
Speaker 1: Here, you know what I mean?
Speaker 11: Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely fun. You want to play another one?
Speaker 1: Sure? Yeah, yeah, definitely if.
Speaker 11: You're just joining us. We have Willie Chase with us
live in studio. Oh, let me get that on.
Speaker 1: I make sure those things in tune too.
Speaker 12: It's cold outside, it is, Yeah.
Speaker 11: I think it's the coldest morning we've had this season
so far.
Speaker 1: I believe it. Yeah, there's plenty of ice on my truck.
Speaker 12: Yeah, after sixty in raining what three days ago? I know, right,
that's this song. I've been playing this song out a
little bit. This is another song I wrote after coming
out of a hard place. This is kind of about
just being who you are and getting back to yourself
and away from other toxic people.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is called back to me.
Speaker 4: Fell into the ghosted you heartlem sleep, a fellow part
in front of you. I guiding your dreams.
Speaker 3: God never ever gonna come back to you.
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, baby, please forgive.
Speaker 5: Me, but I'm coming back to me.
Speaker 3: I'm coming back to me, watching through the window page
and trying to sleep, wondering if the rain could wash
you from my sheets. Oh time, never ever gonna come
back to you.
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, baby, please forgive me, but I'm coming
back to.
Speaker 5: Me, back to me. I'm coming back to me.
Speaker 11: Very nice, very nice. Willie Chase is here with us
live in studio, sounding great. And yeah, I think that's
a universal theme, you know. I think we've all had that, that.
Speaker 12: Moment depitely and if you haven't, well you know it's coming.
Speaker 1: That's right, That's right.
Speaker 12: Yeah, man, that that was that came from a dark place,
for sure. But there's always light at the end of
the tunnel, I guess.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well it could be an oncoming train.
You never know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it is, sometimes it is.
Speaker 11: No, No, I really like that a lot. Are you
playing out a lot? Are you doing a lot of shows.
It sounds like you are.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 12: Yeah, probably coming up on sixty or seventy book.
Speaker 1: For next year already. Wow, And yeah, pretty much every weekend.
Speaker 11: Good.
Speaker 12: Been a little bit of a light stretch right now.
I really just this past like August, I really kind
of had a revelatory moment where I decided I was
just gonna say no to nothing and say yes to
everything and just kind of give everything I had, you know, yeah,
because yeah, this is what I want to do for
the rest of my life. Yeah, and I'm planning on
it so good through a set of experiences that I
don't have to go into, you know, that song came
out of and the dedication and so yeah, I've I've
been playing pretty much every weekend.
Speaker 1: We've had a couple of really cool shows. Recently.
Speaker 12: We had a singer songwriter competition up there in Guilford
and then John put together John MacArthur put together a
show at the BNH Stage and Conquered where all the
finalists from that competition came and played and played with them.
We did a couple numbers together and it was really fun.
I mean, just what a group of talented people.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, excellent do you always play? Is it always
just you or does anyone ever join you?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I've got a couple of different settings. I mean,
most of the stuff I book is solo. But there's
a shop in Laconia called NH Vintage Vinyl. This guy,
Dan McLaughlin owns it, Dan Mack He's a friend of mine.
He plays bass, so he comes out. We do a
really cool duo. We do like a bunch of grunge
oh stuff, so to have like you know, it's still
kind of acoustic. But then there's a couple of different
groups I've played with in more of a band setting,
but nothing, nothing super firm. I'm definitely looking to collaborate
more with other people and you know, getting into more
of a production role and self producing a lot of
stuff just for you know, demos and yeah, and not
in preparation of going into the studio. And that's all
always been a h A fun thing for me. Is
you know, I took a few recording engineering courses in
community college before I kind of went went to school,
and and so knowing how to use pro tools what
I interface does, and you know, spend a little money
on plugins, so I do a little bit of that,
and I'm looking at you because I just playing with
other people is is magical. Yeah, you know, I think
that's one thing that's a little bit I don't want
to say it's lost, but you know, not as common
these days. You know, fifty years ago, you didn't have
any any choice. If you wanted to play with somebody else,
you had to go in and link up with them
and say, hey, let's sit down and play some music.
And now there's everything's in the internet, and it's obviously
it's you know, there's so many bonuses from that. But yeah,
it's been it's been kind of tough, honestly to get
people to, uh, to want to collaborate. I mean, I
don't know if it's a function of just the location
I'm in or my you know, lack of outreach, I
don't know, but but it's something I'm craving. Yeah, if
you're listening to this and you want to collaborate, you
want to play some music up.
Speaker 11: Have you ever played in a full band?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 12: We had with Dan Mack and then we had another
drummer and his name was Dan Hewitt. We played a
couple of shows like My Buddy's birthday.
Speaker 1: Party and stuff. But we put together like two hours
having a killer. Yeah.
Speaker 12: We did this cover of Comfortably Numb, and I don't know,
I think we all shocked ourselves.
Speaker 1: I thought it sounded great. Yeah.
Speaker 12: And then I have another friend, another friend, Dan Fallon.
I don't know if you've come across him.
Speaker 11: Dan's been on the show.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 12: Dan's another buddy, and I've played a little bit with them.
We played the reck Yard up in uh up at
you know, Tower Hill, Weir's Beach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of times. It was fun. Did a
couple other things, but.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I haven't I haven't really been like a you know,
a standard with with anybody, but you know, hoping to
find people and collaborate. I'm I just kind of take
it as it comes, you know what I mean, because
that's sometimes you can rush into situations and it's not
where you want to be or you And conversely, you
could just sit in your apartment play guitar all day
and never talk.
Speaker 1: Sometimes, I find my son, that's all the balance, right.
Speaker 11: Do you as far as shows and you got out
of New England at all, have you done that yet
or not?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's not.
Speaker 11: It's not as though there aren't a million places to
play here, because there definitely are.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I haven't really. I spent the last four
winters out in Park City, Utah. Really yeah, why working
at a ski resort out there?
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I've been a SnowCat operator for like twelve years,
building train parks and grimming and stuff, so I it's
kind of the other side of my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So I've been out there and and did like one
or two open mics and and kind of you know stuff,
but nothing significant outside of New England.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm getting ready though, you know, I'm geared enough
for the big launch. But once I get some you know,
once I get like a solid record out that I'm
happy with, you know, and then can release and like capitalize.
But I'm I'm yeah, I just I'm cool, kind of
cool with where I'm at now because I feel like
I'm just racking up all these hours, right, all these
gigs and just like, yeah, I want to blow the
doors off when I go somewhere, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Right, Anyway, it's it's all, it's all just fun.
Speaker 11: But yeah, but yeah, excellent excellent is so is the
goal to make an album, because you know, we live
in a time when you you know, people approach it
all kinds of different ways. You can make an album.
You could make an EP, you could make a series
of singles that eventually becomes an album. You know is
but are you is that kind of your goal is
to make a full album creatively?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think just the way that I've listened to
music always and the way that I think about music,
I think, like a song is too short for me
to convey what like a message, Yeah, you know what
I mean, And I understand the way the industry is,
so I'd probably release some singles, yeah, you know, once
I can get things recorded properly and whatnot, which is
mostly just you know, financial Oh but but yeah, I
think like my favorite albums are the ones who you
just you know, front to back, right, you just put
put the needle down and go through it, and it
tells a story or it conveys a feeling, or even
if it's just totally your interpretation of it, it all fits together.
I think that's really beautiful. It's like a book, right yeah, yeah,
people released the chapter of a book.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but.
Speaker 11: That's a perfect and now. Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 12: But you know, I you know, there's obviously other real
world limitations like resources and time, yea, you know, and
I understand, you know, singles are the big thing now.
I think you really want to push singles and yeah,
the way music is released and distributed, but I'm I'm
a long way away from that, you know what I mean.
I'm sure I'd love to be in a place one
day where that all that really, you know, matters, and
a lot of people are listening to the music. But man,
I gave up on I'm fantasizing too much a long
time ago, you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean.
Speaker 12: That's part of what I said earlier about being in
the position I'm in now. You know, I do just
for myself, and I realized that as some of those
first open mics. It's actually just a quick story that
I won that songwriter competition three years ago and it
took me. There's eight qualifying weeks and I played all
of them and I didn't qualify until the very last
week and went to the finals and then I was
I won the competition, but the process it was all
new to me. I'd never performed like solo acoustic like that,
and I hadn't performed any type of music in twelve years,
no kidding.
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, I'm gonna come in
here and everybody's gonna love me songs and I'm gonna
be great. I'm gonna be famous in two weeks, right,
you know jokingly of course. Yeah, But that taught me.
Speaker 12: You know, I've realized through those eight weeks, I was like, man,
you know, because it was all about the competition.
Speaker 1: It was new, it was fresh. This was like everything
to me.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and I just realized that if they weren't gonna
let me through the finals, I didn't care because I
just it was the only place I could go and
play music in front of people at that point in time.
It was the only opportunity I had. And I just
kept signing up for slots because I was like, I
just I love this feeling. I love being up here.
This is really cool.
Speaker 11: Well it isn't that a relief too, to let go
of the caring about it part?
Speaker 1: Massive?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Yeah, massive, weight off your shoulders, right, yeah, exactly, because
so much of it is based on luck and connections
and stuff like you can't you know. It was a
great Quincy Jones quote. God rest his soul that I
always think of. It's like when you start talking about money,
God walks out of the room.
Speaker 11: And I've never heard that, but that is a great quote.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just it's so true.
Speaker 12: Man, if you're here for all the those other things,
Like it's with anything in life, right, you know, do
what you love, work really hard at it, and all
the things that you want, all the material things will
come usually in excess, if you know, if you're really
devoting yourself to something right, and and that just you know,
it has a whole set of problems with it. And
you know, listen, I live in the real world. I
got credit card dead right, I got.
Speaker 1: Wet, I'll make money. But but man, I just do
this because I love it.
Speaker 12: I never get sick of picking up a guitar and
playing music or talking about music. Like being here with
you right now is awesome just because we get to
spend time talking about music and thinking about it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I'm.
Speaker 12: Just grateful for where I'm at and I'm going off
on a tangent like I normally do.
Speaker 1: But you know, but yeah, that's.
Speaker 11: All right, it's kind of what we do here.
Speaker 1: Well, do you want to play another one.
Speaker 12: Sure, Yeah, I'll play a fun song that I wrote
for that competition. Cool that my my friends and folk
friends love this song.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 12: The song is called Misery and Tequila. Uh, and it
is in fact about a bottle of tequila.
Speaker 11: Excellent, hope.
Speaker 1: How we signed.
Speaker 15: Willie Chase Slive in studio. There's a battle, lad you
wan it staring me in the face that Blanco's got
this haunchokedyed on Lock of the Lakes.
Speaker 3: I ain't got no girl to leave me if I
did it, will she be through?
Speaker 1: Here's a.
Speaker 4: Key?
Speaker 5: I love you.
Speaker 3: One another, Shine on the front porch knocking?
Speaker 5: Maybe three more? Who have you knocking on my door?
Speaker 4: Poor little?
Speaker 16: More?
Speaker 4: Misery and k I love you.
Speaker 3: Listen on some's gude mean thinking about old day Jadin,
when it's starting to taste like water. I get the
feeling and I should call her and lifting when I
she'll tell me that we're through misery, Kee, I love you.
The parting of the shot on the front porch knocking
baby three board, will have you knocking on my door?
Speaker 5: Poor little moment?
Speaker 3: Misery and kr Misery and misery tends to kill you, but.
Speaker 11: You I love it. I love it. Will he Chase
here with us alive in studio today and uh sounding fantastic.
Uh what do you have coming up?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 11: Are you playing anywhere this weekend? You got any for
our live listeners, anything to plug?
Speaker 12: Not this weekend, but coming up. Yeah, I got a
bunch of stuff. You can always go to my website
Willichase music dot com. Uh, there's a schedule tab on
there with all my upcoming shows. But yeah, I'm playing
just about every weekend around the Lakes region. I'm gonna
be at the Waterview Pub this coming Wednesday. I can't
remember exactly where that is. That's a new one for me.
And then I'm usually at Twin Barnes and Meredith all
the time, about once a month or so. I've got
shows coming up at the four oh five in Laconia.
I've got shows coming up at Foster's Tavern in Alton Bay,
so you know kind of that circuit up there. I
will be in Manchester at certain points in January and
February playing in the Backyard Brewery and the Anheuser Busch
Beer Garden. I've done that those a couple of times.
I've got a couple more dates booked there. I'm going
to be playing at Defiant Records and Laconia. So yeah,
if you go to my website Willichasemusic dot com, w
I L L Y, or Google me, social media, Instagram
and Facebook at Willy Chase Music, you can always find
I'm posting about the shows and stuff.
Speaker 11: So, do you have a favorite place to play or
a couple that are just really really that you just
love playing it?
Speaker 1: That's tough.
Speaker 12: They're all fun, but I would have to say, you know,
Foster's Tavern is always a super fun time. Yeah, it's
always full of people and everybody's always usually singing along
by the end.
Speaker 1: Oh that's what it really gets people singing along these
days is playing Creed.
Speaker 11: Well. I keep seeing that meme.
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, man, I've never had more people sing along
to a song and playing Take Me Higher by Creative
Get the Whole Place Rocket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much fun.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's so funny some of those It's so interesting
the arc of some of those artists. Yeah, you know,
like very popular and then basically geting dragged on social
media for ten years, but everybody loves him.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that's happened to a lot of those lymp
Biscuits a great exit. Yeah toolymp Biscuit is huge. Yeah,
and they were huge. But even but even when they
were huge the first time, a lot of people look
down on them and you know what I mean. But
now it's like everybody's just kind of like, oh yeah,
I guess I likelymp Biscuit.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 12: Now Fred Durst comes out with like a silver goatee
and yeah, yeah cowboy.
Speaker 11: Yeah he's really having a good time and yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: West Portland's a great guitarist too, man, he is.
Speaker 11: Yeah, in general, yeah, underrated, I think because you know,
he gets overlooked because of the band that he plays in, right,
but yeah, no, I agree, I agree. Yeah, that's They've
been a topic on the show recently because of that
big two hundred million dollar lawsuit. UMG, talking about sharks
in the industry.
Speaker 1: No caring but crazy stuff man.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but yeah, a lot of those a lot of
those bands, Yeah, like like Creed and who else? Do
you so you play a lot of that stuff right
live in your son.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I do.
Speaker 12: I mean I don't play a ton of like, you know,
Unknown Creed. I guess you would say, I know some
of the bangers yeah, but I play a lot of
like Alison Chain's Stone Temple pilots like that's always been
a very I've always been super fond of that. Yeah,
you know, kind of era in music. To be honest,
it was never like a huge Nirvana fan. Yeah, which
might seem weird, but I'm a huge Alison Chains fan.
Like Lane Staley, I think was it was one of
my favorite vocalists. That actually kind of goes back to
that earlier question. I try to sound like him, but yeah, unsuccessfully. Yeah,
but I when the screen because he's like he was
a bit of a screamer, but not a high register
like I can never sing like Chester Bennington or anybody
from you know, more metal league groups. I just I
don't have that in my range. But like guys like Lane,
you know, we're we're kind of in that lower register
but still managed to get that like rock high like
screaming sound, which I really love, you know. And then
of course I'm big fan of like Audio Slave and
Chris Cornell, Yeah, Sound Garden and yeah, you know and that,
and but Chris Cornell was way up there too, but
he was one of my favorite rock writers. I would
I would say, yeah, what a legend.
Speaker 11: I know, I know, absolutely absolutely. You know, it's funny
when you mentioned Lane Staley, I had to stop myself
because I started to have this thought. You ever started
to have a thought and then you're about to say it,
and then you realize it's stupid, like all the time,
all the time, because I found myself thinking and I
almost said, you know, Lane Staley such a unique voice,
as nobody who sounds like him? And then of course
I remember, no, they found a new singer who sounds
exactly like him. But other than other than that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, other than that guy.
Speaker 11: It is really he he was he did have an
unusual voice.
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, and very like dark in drab. But then
you'd hear it like you'd be listening to jar of
Flies and it's like, you know, just do me almost
and then there's like this whole major, like beautiful acoustic song.
I'm trying to remember the name of the title of
the track, but it's like later on in that jar
Flies album, Oh just like super pleasant, you know what
I mean, Like very major and beautiful, so like the
complexity is what really hooks me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those guys, you know.
Speaker 11: Yeah, no doubt, we have time you want to play
one more. Sure, I'd love to hear one more if
you're just joining us. Will he chases here with us
live in studio and uh that back up there?
Speaker 12: Yeah, so this last track, well, making sure my guitar
is in two and I'll tell you a little bit
about it, Okay, this I So I grew up down
in Connecticut, which evokes many things. But my mother's family
has been there for a very long time. They were
dairy farmers for three hundred years, and.
Speaker 1: I love it there.
Speaker 12: We have like a little bit of land left, and
I have a big family and I love everything about it.
But it's there's no farming left, you know, we don't
farm anymore. And the last dairy farm in our town
just closed a few years ago. So this whole lifestyle
of generations and generations my family the way that I mean,
nobody left, like you know, it was just always there,
and it's just not a place I ever felt home at,
you know, outside of our little bubble like Connecticut. Rather,
you know, it's just this what used to be really
a graririan kind of nice place is just surrounded by
all this other stuff that isn't really interesting to me.
And I was drawn in the mountains and you know,
the North country and everything. So this song is kind
of about that feeling of this whole paradigm shift, and
you know, like feeling like you know, I have three
hundred years of dairy farming in my blood, but it's
like just this weird anyway, I'll stop talking about it
and play all right.
Speaker 1: This song is called Thicker than Water.
Speaker 4: There used to be a cornfield right here.
Speaker 3: Green Backers cut it heavy in here, and now they're
putting up the panels, and the picture on the mantel
gets a little smaller every here. Wind house through in
old barn window. That's the empty stoves in old hay bells.
That's blowing off your old hay hang picking up a
memory and flies into.
Speaker 5: The Mama, love is town.
Speaker 3: I got a lot of reasons left sticking around, And.
Speaker 17: That's blood run sticking in water. God Lord, that's making
me drown.
Speaker 5: No, my root scar old me.
Speaker 16: Down On't me me tell me everything?
Speaker 5: How older and sure of had no I carry it in.
They're always with kicking my battles or keeping my cool.
I see the way the.
Speaker 3: World is going, but I can't take it anymore.
Speaker 5: But my family. You keep me around it.
Speaker 4: That's the only thing I know.
Speaker 14: For sure, Mama, I love this town.
Speaker 3: I ain't got a lot of reasons left sticky around.
Speaker 5: Because there's blood run sticky and water of my Lord
that's making me drown. No, my roots came and all
the down.
Speaker 10: From my roots can hold me down.
Speaker 3: And I feel the break faster than ever who befooling good?
Speaker 4: All the.
Speaker 5: I'm bringing me home No more my roots can hold
me down.
Speaker 4: And there's a million things that will put me.
Speaker 17: Because there's blood runs in water my Lord that's made
me drown.
Speaker 10: No, mo roots can down.
Speaker 5: No, my roots can't hold me down.
Speaker 4: Hold me.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 11: Oh that is so good. That is so good.
Speaker 1: Thanks man.
Speaker 11: Willy Chase with us live in studio today. Hey, before
we wrap up, I want to remind people if you
are listening live on Saturday, today is the Magical Market
at the Great North Ale Works from noon to four pm.
That's where Jenny is right now, and I will be
joining her in a little bit after the show, after
I get everything uploaded, so come say hello. Lots of
great artisans and local businesses participating in that event. And
as I like to remind people, every holiday season. Walmart
and Target don't need any more of your money. They
will be just fine. But please support your local businesses
and we'd love to see you there. So that is
a great north Aale works from noon to four pm
this afternoon on the fourteenth. If you are listening live
Willie Chase, this has been wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks so much, man, it's been so fun to
be here.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, remind everybody again where to find you online.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, you can find me on social media, Facebook, Instagram,
threads at Willy Chase Music All one word or Willichase
Music dot com.
Speaker 11: W I L Y excellent, you have much luck with threads.
I forget it's there.
Speaker 12: Actually, it's been really great, mainly because there's no ads.
Oh best thing ever. Yeah, And one of the first
posts I put out I was just talking about like
jazz orchestras and got like ten thousand people viewed it
and got everybody talking about posting old pictures of jazz
clubs in New York. It was like the best social
media experience I've had in a long time.
Speaker 11: No o kidding, So you're having good engagement from.
Speaker 1: It, Well, no, it was just that one post. It
just happened to go.
Speaker 12: But uh, okay, but yeah, yeah, it's been really cool.
Speaker 11: Yeah no, that's good. That's good, very good. And when
is your next show?
Speaker 12: I have a show coming up this Wednesday at the
Waterview Pub. And yeah, go to my website. Everything's listed
right out of the schedule tab. You can see all
my shows coming up. I'll be playing all around the
Lakes region and south down to Manchester Conquered in the
next few months.
Speaker 11: Outstanding, outstanding, very good. Well, thank you so much, and
thank you to all of our guests today. Of course
we had Tom Modern in the second hour. In the
first hour we had Sean Devlin from the band Devil
Inside Us and of course, uh, they're playing tonight at
Terminus in Nashua. Big show there. It's the Christmas in Hell,
I believe, is the name of the show. But uh,
don't don't be put off by the name, because it's
actually for a great, great cause. They're raising a ton
of money for to buy toys for children who might
not otherwise have a Christmas this here, So that's a
great event to and Terminus is a great place, so
check that out. That out. If you can come to
Great north Ale Works, come say Hello to Jenny and
I and Willie Chase. Thank you again, and if you
miss any part of today's show, it will be up
in just a little bit w mnhradio dot org and
at my website Matt Connorton dot com, and we will
talk at you all a little bit later. Bye, everybody, My.
Speaker 7: God bless keep you always your wishes all come true.
May you always do for others and let others do
for you.
Speaker 5: May you build a letter to the stars, climb on
every long. May you stay foreveryon.
Speaker 7: May you stay foreveryon.
Speaker 5: May you grow up to be righteous.
Speaker 7: May you grow up to be true. May you always
know the truth. Fancy the lights surrounding you.
Speaker 5: May you always be courageous, stand upright, be strong.
Speaker 4: May you stay.
Speaker 5: Foreveryon.
Speaker 7: May you stay for everyon.
Speaker 5: May your hands always be busy. May your feet always
be with.
Speaker 3: May you have a strong foundation when the wind of
changes shift.
Speaker 5: May your heart always be joyful. May your song always
be song.
Speaker 7: May you stay foreveryon. May you stay foreverial.
Speaker 15: M H.
Speaker 5: You're listening to WM and H.
Speaker 11: The Commander. Don't get sore, maxill coming