Speaker 1: And now for a moment of clarity.
Speaker 2: It's hard to know what to believe from either side.
In his case, there have been so many different pronouncements
over the last several weeks. Maybe we can regard that
as encouraging that maybe they're talking and maybe they're getting
closers were in agreement. Let's hope. So I don't have
confidence if that's the case, but let's hope that it is.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that we're in a space where
we have a president who just doesn't have a fundamental
understanding of what he stepped into. And I think it
largely emanates from, if I really put a pin on it, Venezuela,
because Venezuela, he looked at Venezuela, and how that went.
Oh we got Maduro, Oh we got you know, we
did this. The ships went in, we got the oil.
We're making money. It's a good day in the neighborhood.
And I know us not with Marco Rubio and Heck
Seth and others told him. At least I would hope
that they would tell him this is not going to
be easy. There's a little thing called the straight of
horror moves. There's a little thing called Iran and how
they have functioned for forty seven years against the US.
So what is it then, that seemingly US policy doesn't
get about this moment. I get Trump is sort of
dictating training as but you're meaning there's nothing in this
government that can move the needle on this conversation beyond
where it is right now that Trump understands and can
listen to, because right now I don't if I'm Iran,
there is no incentive to come back to the table
to talk about anything. I mean, I've shut down the street, right,
I control the price of aill you make a move,
I fire a few missiles, upset the chain of movement,
and further ships owners start back and off. They don't
want to send their ships through there, no matter what
Donald Trump says. And we've already seen that. So what
does it take to kind of get us beyond this
seemingly intractable point where this is now stretching out week
after week where the President says, oh, we got to
cease fire. Oh well we're gonna where you know, we're
going to fire stuff off at them if they make
a move, and Aron's like, we're still shooting at you.
We haven't stopped shooting at you.
Speaker 2: I don't understand, Look, Michael Warn a position where both
sides should reach a deal here, but it's neither side
seems to be able to move forward.
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