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<v Speaker 1>What's Doge digging out?

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about fraud, waste abuse.

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<v Speaker 3>CHET can't often for the latest. Fifty five krc D

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<v Speaker 3>Talk Station eight oh five fifty five r c E

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<v Speaker 3>Talk Station. Very Happy Monday to you. I always enjoy this.

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<v Speaker 4>Time of the hour, eight o'clock on Mondays because we

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<v Speaker 4>get to hear from all our financials Brian James and

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<v Speaker 4>deal with money Monday, Brian James, Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 4>morning show, and Happy Monday to you, sir. Hope you

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<v Speaker 4>had a wonderful weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Brian Thomas, back at you, and hope you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing well as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I am doing great, other than the general frustrations of

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<v Speaker 4>the political landscape and all the other topics got to

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<v Speaker 4>deal with every day, most of which I have no

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<v Speaker 4>control over. But before we get into the topics you have,

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to know because I remember Nathan Backrack

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<v Speaker 4>and I think, oh, I know, you know. They created

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<v Speaker 4>what they called, I believe, the greased Palm Index, and

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<v Speaker 4>they tracked the lobbying dollars the more the lobbying money

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<v Speaker 4>was spent, and they put it into a particular fund.

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<v Speaker 4>So the big contributors to political campaigns ones with the

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<v Speaker 4>most lobbying dollars were putting funds to track them to

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<v Speaker 4>see if they grew at a faster rate than say,

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<v Speaker 4>other index funds, which I thought was kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>brilliant thing. I don't know how I ended up working out,

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<v Speaker 4>but I wanted to know along those same lines, is

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<v Speaker 4>there a military industrial complex index like where you got

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<v Speaker 4>all the defense contractors put in one single fund, because

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<v Speaker 4>it seems to me those guys are probably doing pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great observation, and yeah, I'm sure there is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not something I pay attention to directly, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can guarantee you that there is somebody out there that

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<v Speaker 2>has built a pile of investments around any idea that

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<v Speaker 2>anyone might might assume is getting a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>thrown at it.

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<v Speaker 5>So there are all kinds.

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<v Speaker 2>Of investment products that focus on industries and things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And as you mentioned, yeah, I'm not sure whatever happened

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<v Speaker 5>to it either.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they don't pay attention as much anymore now that

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<v Speaker 2>they're retired. Yeah, yes, I do recall the idea behind

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<v Speaker 2>let's go follow who gets money thrown at them and

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<v Speaker 2>in those different areas, And yeah, of course, anytime there

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<v Speaker 2>is spending, there's going to be an equal and opposite

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<v Speaker 2>reaction in the investment underlying value.

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<v Speaker 4>No doubt about it. All right, let us move over

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<v Speaker 4>to the topics you actually present it to me. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>you indulging me on that. Though first quarter GDP growth

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<v Speaker 4>looks like, according to CNBC, on track for negative growth.

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<v Speaker 5>Well go figure.

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<v Speaker 2>When you add a bunch of costs in things in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of tariffs, and we start to get the talking

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<v Speaker 2>heads and the projections coming out, we're starting to see

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<v Speaker 2>the possibility of negative growth predictions. So Atlanta FED is

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<v Speaker 2>now predicting that we're going to see the GDP shrink

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<v Speaker 2>by about one and a half percent here in the

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<v Speaker 2>first quarter of twenty twenty five. They're kind of known

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<v Speaker 2>for this. This particular tracker is always leans toward the

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<v Speaker 2>volatility side, and it usually becomes a little clearer later

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<v Speaker 2>in the quarter. But still this is just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a warning of what shouldn't be too shocking. Even the

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<v Speaker 2>President himself came out and said there could be some

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<v Speaker 2>pain here on the front end as they implement the

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<v Speaker 2>things that they want to do. So where this is

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<v Speaker 2>coming from, consumers spent a little less than expected in January,

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<v Speaker 2>and that led to a downgrade and growth predictions in

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<v Speaker 2>the GDP. Exports dropped a bit too, and some other

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<v Speaker 2>places as well. We've all heard about the egg prices

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<v Speaker 2>and inflation popping up in certain places too. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is all coming together to make it look like

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<v Speaker 2>it could be a bumpy first Quarterbran.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I have to observe. When people's extra money,

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<v Speaker 4>to the extent they have any disposable income, is being

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<v Speaker 4>sucked up by increased property taxes and increase energy bills,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not going to be participating in the economy and

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<v Speaker 4>keeping our consumption economy going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true. It all plays together. All the puzzle

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<v Speaker 2>piece has got to fit one way or another. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of impacts here coming from a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of different directions, just all the data we have now,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have a new administration that is shaping data

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<v Speaker 2>and looking at it differently. They even saw a reference

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<v Speaker 2>to the possibility that they may split out government spending from.

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<v Speaker 5>The GDP calculation. Yeah, purportedly to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get shine a little a brighter light on where the

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<v Speaker 2>money comes from and where it all goes. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be yet another indicator we all have to

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention to when people are still struggling to understand

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that come out every day.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I would love to know that figure. I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 4>that hasn't been done yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it gets done, it just doesn't get broadcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about GDP every quarter. I mean, there are

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<v Speaker 2>websites out there. All this stuff is freely available to

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who wants to dig it out, but the media

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't pick up on that. We like our simple bullet

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<v Speaker 2>points and our soundbites and things, and that's always been

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<v Speaker 2>what is the GDP as opposed to all the different

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<v Speaker 2>derivatives of the GDP.

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<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, those numbers are out there.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be good to see how much of our

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<v Speaker 2>GDP purportedly is grown by actual little government spending, so

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<v Speaker 2>that we know what the impact is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>when we choose not to spend that way anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I know, but I mean you think about like

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<v Speaker 4>the green industrial complex as I called it earlier, that

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<v Speaker 4>is basically fully supported by the government and government spending.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean a lot of these companies wouldn't even exist

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<v Speaker 4>but for the government and fusion of our taxpayer dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of that

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<v Speaker 5>out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter of fact, some of your largest companies, your your

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<v Speaker 2>sexiest stories of the last decade have come with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of government investment and our you know, our President

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<v Speaker 2>in chief, Elon Musk, is no stranger to that. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the dollars that went into Tesla came from

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<v Speaker 2>the same came from those same green budgets as well

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<v Speaker 2>as heaving those that SpaceX has taken a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars from the federal government because they do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things that NASA used to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but more efficiently.

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<v Speaker 5>That's true. That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>So there is a negative thing, but it's something we've

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<v Speaker 2>never paid attention to before.

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<v Speaker 4>To your point earlier, Yeah, those astronauts are still stranded

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<v Speaker 4>up in space too. I must observe on that or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a comical note. I feel sorry for those folks,

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<v Speaker 4>but if you can't do it yourself, you've got to

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<v Speaker 4>rely on outsourced companies and maybe do it more efficiently. Anyhow, Now,

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of the first quarter being on track for

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<v Speaker 4>negative GDP growth, is that an indication that the Fed

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<v Speaker 4>might lower interest rates?

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<v Speaker 2>Could be but not the other thing the FED has

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about is we want to keep the economy running,

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<v Speaker 2>but we also have to worry about inflation.

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<v Speaker 5>That's really the Fed's job, those two things.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make sure everybody has a job, and let's make

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<v Speaker 2>sure inflation is under control when you really boil it down.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we're talking about inflation being a factor in

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<v Speaker 2>all this in the slowdown, that does not indicate that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to see further rate cuts anytime soon. And

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<v Speaker 2>I would say we're I don't think that has changed

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<v Speaker 2>in the past several weeks because inflation really is it's

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<v Speaker 2>very sensitive right now. It's not going to take much

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<v Speaker 2>of an impact of anything, as we've already seen to

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<v Speaker 2>drive prices back up where we were a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think we're at a point yet where

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<v Speaker 2>we're on the brink of that happening. But we're also

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not an environment where we're going to see a

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<v Speaker 2>rate cut tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Well other than the real estate market, because if you

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<v Speaker 4>lower the interest rates and it has an impact on

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<v Speaker 4>the current real estate interest rate, how else is the

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<v Speaker 4>interest rate from the FED? How does that impact inflation?

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<v Speaker 4>Generally speaking?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, any cost of anything has to do with what

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<v Speaker 2>does it cost to produce that good or service it

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<v Speaker 2>and to begin with So if there's a company out

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<v Speaker 2>there that has borrowed money to pay its employees, to

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<v Speaker 2>build its factories, to do whatever it needs to do,

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<v Speaker 2>then that is a factor that's that will ultimately trickle through.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything trickles down to the consumers. So you have the

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<v Speaker 2>producers and the consumers. The consumer's got to pay the bills,

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<v Speaker 2>including all the taxes. No different than if your property

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<v Speaker 2>taxes go up and you're renting an apartment. You won't

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<v Speaker 2>think that, hey, I got to pay a bigger property

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<v Speaker 2>tax bill. No, you don't have a property tax bill,

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<v Speaker 2>but your rent's going to go up because your landlord's

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<v Speaker 2>going to take it from you. That's the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>that happens to every consumer in every corner of the

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<v Speaker 2>world everywhere, because all those costs get passed down. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's where the impact will be seen and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to look closely to see it sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, fair enough, Well, I take an early break

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<v Speaker 4>here because we want to talk about food prices and inflation,

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<v Speaker 4>which I think has to tie in with the next

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<v Speaker 4>topic we'll do in the next segment, which is expect

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<v Speaker 4>restaurant bankruptcies. So we've seen quite a few of those lates.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's pause a little bit early. We'll bring back

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<v Speaker 4>Brian James and talk about those. After I mentioned my

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<v Speaker 4>on money Monday, and sadly something I'm painfully aware of.

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<v Speaker 4>I do go grocery shopping every week with my wife,

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<v Speaker 4>and food prices have gone up precipitously, and most notably,

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<v Speaker 4>and then put it back down to the beat section

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<v Speaker 4>just because it's just like I just it's mind blowing eggs.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, we can blame bird flu for that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no I don't think there's a relationship with the

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<v Speaker 4>been slaughtering all the chickens because of bird flu. But

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<v Speaker 4>what's the story from Walmart's CEO on food prices.

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<v Speaker 5>Doug mc millan's not in a good mood this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's the CEO of Walmart, and he's highlighting that

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<v Speaker 2>strain that's coming up on American consumers due to this.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we're not shocked at this. I even paying

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<v Speaker 2>attention to the headlines at all. It's been hard to avoid,

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<v Speaker 2>whichever side of it you're on, it's been hard to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid the discussion about egg prices. But Doug, who is

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<v Speaker 2>the cash register there.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're seeing impact on things.

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<v Speaker 2>Like beef and eggs, non alcoholic beverages, sugar and sweets.

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<v Speaker 2>Sugar is up almost six and a half percent. We're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing non alcoholic beverages up about four percent, a beef

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<v Speaker 2>and veal we're looking at to be up about three percent.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, these are all facts.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we can find these anywhere, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>more impactful at least worth talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Brian to what should somebody do about this?

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<v Speaker 2>This question comes up all the time and in the

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<v Speaker 2>course of my day as a financial planner, people want

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<v Speaker 5>What should I be doing about this? Inflation I keep

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<v Speaker 5>hearing about.

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<v Speaker 2>My question is always okay, what were you spending on

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<v Speaker 2>all of these items before? Then we can figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what the impact is going to be. And most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and this is a necessarily bad thing, most

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<v Speaker 2>of the time people have no idea because we've not

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<v Speaker 5>We don't know where we are.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a great first step is to understand where

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<v Speaker 2>really need to worry about this or just be mad

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<v Speaker 2>at the cash register.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess part of me. I want to react

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<v Speaker 4>by saying, Okay, I'm glad sugary beverages are more expensive,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm glad people are buying fewer of them because

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<v Speaker 4>that's a discretionary item. You don't need mountain dew in

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<v Speaker 4>your life, right, I mean, I'm kind of been on

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<v Speaker 4>a sugar tear of late. But in the final analysis,

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<v Speaker 4>if you need nutrition to stay alive, you need certain calories.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully your calories are coming from something that's good for you.

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<v Speaker 4>But rather than buying mountain dew, maybe you just drink

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<v Speaker 4>a glass of water. Is your life going to be

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<v Speaker 4>really impacted to the negative for that, No, I would

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<v Speaker 4>say it's going to be a positive result. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if that's baked into this cake, if that's by

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<v Speaker 4>design or intention, but you know, maybe it'll force people

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we will see that impact. We've seen that

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<v Speaker 2>happen before when we've had price bikes. People do tend

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<v Speaker 2>to change their behavior, and I personally, I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>this is part of any engineered a change of behavior

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<v Speaker 2>by any administration. It's just I think we've got an

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<v Speaker 2>administration that truly just cares about's let's make this country

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<v Speaker 2>as successful from a commercial and business standpoint as it

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<v Speaker 2>possibly can, and they're making decisions to move us in

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<v Speaker 2>that direction. These are again not designed results, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just simply what's happening.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>If people bought less sugar and less and less stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that, we're probably in a better spot. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that we're seeing inflation increasing on those indicates that

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe rising the companies. Companies may be buying more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not necessarily people buying bags of sugar. It could

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<v Speaker 2>be companies buying it more at a commodity level and

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<v Speaker 2>because they feel like that's where they can make their profits.

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<v Speaker 4>Fair enough. On that, I got a kick out of

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<v Speaker 4>his observation that you see people are buying smaller pack

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<v Speaker 4>sizes than they used to, but with shrinkflation, they were

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<v Speaker 4>doing that anyway, even if they wanted the family sized bag.

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<v Speaker 4>The family size bag now only contains twelve ounces where

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<v Speaker 4>it used to contain eighteen ounces or something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought that was an interesting comment, given that

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<v Speaker 4>we all lived through shrinkflation.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Yeah, and it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another cycle that we see too, when it's harder

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<v Speaker 2>for companies to make money off of off of the

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<v Speaker 2>original sizes and things that they were making. One way,

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<v Speaker 2>and they know they can't push the button and sell more.

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<v Speaker 2>Another way can be to make it cheaper to sell

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<v Speaker 2>the same amount by putting smaller projects inside smaller products,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember a commercial about that, the guy that saved

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<v Speaker 4>the company one hundred million dollars a year by taking

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<v Speaker 4>like one olive out of the olive jar, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and airlines make their take the tomatoes off of

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<v Speaker 2>their off of their rubber chicken sandwiches and saved billions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars. Yeah, yeah, it does add up. It does

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<v Speaker 2>does make sense in the long run. Every little bit counts,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Pivoting over to restaurants, and I've observed this also.

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<v Speaker 2>Carry out has gotten really expensive compared to not that

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<v Speaker 2>long ago. Even it's an Asian restaurant, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think there was a single entree that was less than

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty two dollars. And we're talking about just standard

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Chinese food kind of orders and that that

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<v Speaker 2>is just like mind blowing to me. But that's the

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<v Speaker 2>direction that's gone. But more and more are going bankrupt too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing that bankruptcy is coming out of but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these are older names, so it's not I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think we're yet at a point where all of

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<v Speaker 2>it is totally their fault of inflation and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>These are things that have kind of run their course.

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<v Speaker 2>So the big one, big ones we've seen recently, TGI, Fridays, Any's, Ruby, Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>Red Lobster, all of them have filed for bankruptcy protection.

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<v Speaker 2>Hooters hit the headlines as of this morning. Their food

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<v Speaker 2>sucked though exactly. You know, the only thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>ever liked about Hooters They're mild sauce with it was

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<v Speaker 5>But it was really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think you're got to say good buffalo sauce

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<v Speaker 2>with butter in it, which is, you know, good in

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<v Speaker 2>the long run, but not so much of the schwartz.

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<v Speaker 4>So it had nothing to do with the wait staff.

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<v Speaker 6>Now this is off the shelf and Kroger I still

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<v Speaker 6>get it with Yes, they out of trouble, right, James,

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<v Speaker 6>Well you know this this could be I mean, I

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<v Speaker 6>understand the COVID they required to borrow money to stay open,

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<v Speaker 6>and they got you know, debt service on that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I note the article says this meant companies accumulated debt

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<v Speaker 6>they had to pay back over time plus interest. Someone

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<v Speaker 6>wrote us government right next to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh right, that was me. But there's more competition out there,

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<v Speaker 4>and there are better products. Going back to Hooters. If

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<v Speaker 4>you can go someplace down the street that has superior

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<v Speaker 4>chicken wings, then you're going to go there, right, And that's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was hinting at before with these these

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<v Speaker 2>are older chains. Restaurants do run their courses, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are some icons that never go away. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>just look over time, there aren't any restaurants that have

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<v Speaker 2>been aside from these you know, ridiculously long family owned

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<v Speaker 2>type stories that have been in existence for one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty years. It generally doesn't work that way.

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<v Speaker 2>They last a few decades at most. That's a huge

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<v Speaker 2>success story, but eventually people's taste change something if things

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<v Speaker 2>feel dated, TGI Fridays and Applebee's, which doesn't exist anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. But anyway, they've all kind of run

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<v Speaker 2>years it's very easy for consumers to change their minds

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the quality can go down as well, frishes

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<v Speaker 4>and we end up losing our frishes locally. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>let's pause. We'll bring Brien James back for one more

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<v Speaker 4>talk about four oh one k balances. Which direction are

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<v Speaker 4>they going? Stick around you? Right back?

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five krc.

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<v Speaker 4>Lit Stark for the weather Channel nine says sunny day

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<v Speaker 4>for the most part, forty eight for the high, down

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<v Speaker 4>to thirty eight over night, under clear sky, thady tomorrow

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<v Speaker 4>and a high at fifty four twenty seven degrees. Right now,

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<v Speaker 4>Eight twenty eight come to an eight twenty nine at

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<v Speaker 4>Frien Thomas with more segment with money Monday's Brian James

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<v Speaker 4>moving over to four oh one K balance is something

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<v Speaker 4>he knows all about since he's an ancial planner. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what it is all about. Hopefully everybody's investments are going well.

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<v Speaker 4>Which direction are we going in four oh one K

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<v Speaker 4>balances because the market seems to have been doing pretty

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<v Speaker 4>well late now they've.

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<v Speaker 2>Been going up and yeah, that's it shouldn't be too

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<v Speaker 2>big of a shock.

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<v Speaker 5>The market is the market usually goes up and not down.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen, you know, the market hit an all

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<v Speaker 2>time high in December and it's touched that twice once

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<v Speaker 2>in January once in February, So the average balance for

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<v Speaker 2>a four toh one K retirement accounts about one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty one thousand dollars. That's the second highest average

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<v Speaker 2>we've had on Revered on record, So that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But that does happen when the economy is going okay.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of scary headlines out there, but underneath

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<v Speaker 2>that are a lot of people who are doing okay

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<v Speaker 2>and making it through. And actually contributions are up too,

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<v Speaker 2>So we've seen a we've seen a large amount of

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<v Speaker 2>people putting more and more four oh one K dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in and that's represented in the fact that we're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>these balances go up. So when the economy is doing

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<v Speaker 2>ok hey, people will put more money in. When people

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<v Speaker 2>start to slow down on their contributions, that can be

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<v Speaker 2>an indicator as well, because they're needing to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pinch pennies a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and I don't know how you Reckon saw more

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<v Speaker 4>people putting away more money in a four h one

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<v Speaker 4>K plan. When we talked about the other topics, which

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<v Speaker 4>is inflation is soaking up a lot more dollars at

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<v Speaker 4>least in terms of the grocery prices.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fair point, But that's what I was hinting at before.

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<v Speaker 5>There are a lot of people out there who were

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<v Speaker 5>doing just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in an economy, Brian, where we were in a

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<v Speaker 2>country where we worry about the profit margin of our

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<v Speaker 2>public traded companies. There are a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>get hurt by that. There are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>who make a lot of money off of it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not here towag in on whether that's good or bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're somebody who's got the ability to put

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<v Speaker 2>away more money than you spend every month, then you've

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<v Speaker 2>been in a great environment really for the last several years.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say even prior to that. We had

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two, which was one of the five worst

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<v Speaker 2>years we've ever had in the stock market, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot of years where it's been a lot

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<v Speaker 2>better than that, And so that's why we're seeing these balances,

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<v Speaker 2>highest average balances we've ever seen, meaning people are putting

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<v Speaker 2>it in and.

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<v Speaker 5>Allowing it to grow and not relying on it.

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<v Speaker 2>The average contribution nowadays is about fourteen percent, which really

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<v Speaker 2>that's an eye popping number, and I want to read

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<v Speaker 2>a little more into that to see where that came from.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what's being highlighted here in the article.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, as every good financial planner, I'll tell you should

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<v Speaker 4>at least put something in it for no other reason

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<v Speaker 4>then to make sure you get if you have one,

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<v Speaker 4>the employer match. I mean, that's just sound financial planning

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<v Speaker 4>right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, that's free money that's sitting there on the

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<v Speaker 2>table waiting for you to take it.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, you have to make sure that you can

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<v Speaker 2>pay your bills. None of this matters if you can't

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<v Speaker 2>pay your bills. If you're running up credit card bills

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<v Speaker 2>in for the sake of building up your four O

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<v Speaker 2>one K, in the end, that's going to balance out

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of work against you.

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<v Speaker 5>So it all comes down to budgeting.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I've been teaching my kids and their friends

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<v Speaker 2>as it has come up, you have got to find

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<v Speaker 2>your way to get yourself in a situation where you

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<v Speaker 2>can spend less than you make. Do that for thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five forty years and you'll be just fine, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>what the headline. And that's true for everybody as of

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<v Speaker 2>right now as well.

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<v Speaker 4>My wife and I've been trying to do that since

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<v Speaker 4>when we first met. I think it's in my West

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<v Speaker 4>Side genetics to spend less than we make. Just searching

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<v Speaker 4>everywhere whenever you can save some money, even if it's

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<v Speaker 4>just a small amount, all that adds up over the

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<v Speaker 4>long haul. I mean, it really is. I remember just

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<v Speaker 4>struggling with the reality when we were living in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we had a budget for our house, and

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<v Speaker 4>I've talked about the interest rates and you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>balloon mortgage we had to get. But we bought a

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<v Speaker 4>comparatively modest home compared to what my peers at the

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<v Speaker 4>law firm were buying. And I was just sort of

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<v Speaker 4>just in amazement at you know, they felt the need

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<v Speaker 4>to buy this huge monstrosity of a home. And I

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<v Speaker 4>just like, I'm thinking to myself, why all the resources

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<v Speaker 4>you got are going into your home. You become house poor,

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<v Speaker 4>And that to me is the ultimate, you know, of

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<v Speaker 4>financial sin from my perspective. Anyway, Yeah, I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a similar story there too, related to housing. So

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<v Speaker 2>we moved into a house in the early two thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>and it would have been you know, normally probably your

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<v Speaker 2>second home, and you know, then you kind of graduated

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<v Speaker 2>one little more space, want a bigger house or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But we got lucky and landed in a neighborhood with

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of absolutely fun, wonderful people, and none of

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<v Speaker 2>us have ever left.

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<v Speaker 5>So that occurred to me.

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<v Speaker 2>As I've done financial plans for my clients. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times, I'm seeing mortgages where they bought a house

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<v Speaker 2>in their late forties early fifties, presumably for that reason,

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<v Speaker 2>got bored, wanted different change of scenery.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't do that, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm realizing now that our house is almost paid off

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to have that mortgage hanging over

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<v Speaker 2>my head. And that's the reason. It had nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with a conscious decision. It just worked out, But

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<v Speaker 2>it had to do with the fact that we simply

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the desire to move because of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that were around us. That not everybody has that fortunate situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is a very very mathematical impact to not

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<v Speaker 2>having a mortgage for the rest of your retirement.

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<v Speaker 4>Amen into that, and Acto I pointed out earlier in

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<v Speaker 4>my psychologically speaking, not having a mortgage was always just

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<v Speaker 4>critical to me because I can't stand the concept of

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<v Speaker 4>owing money. I just I just can't stand it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>there have been periods on my time in my life, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>you had to have a credit card balance. It was

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<v Speaker 4>just required, you know, you had necessities and you didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have the money in the bank, and it just loomed

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<v Speaker 4>over me like this monster. So I'm just uncomfortable with debt,

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<v Speaker 4>knowing people money, and so that's that's kind of driven

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<v Speaker 4>my financial planning throughout my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's when we do financial plans, it all

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<v Speaker 2>worth well, we'll build into the plan a quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>spending goal of getting that debt paid down. Mortgages aren't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily the scariest thing. It's not the worst, not the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the world if you have one. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you're about to retire with thirty thousand dollars in credit

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<v Speaker 2>card debt, then we need to sit down and have

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<v Speaker 2>a and have a little bit of a come to

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus conversation, because that kind of thing is going to

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<v Speaker 2>blow up in your face. But it's understanding the situation

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<v Speaker 2>that you're in, figuring out the resources you have with

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<v Speaker 2>which to address, and then implementing a plan.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's the beauty of having a financial planner. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like having a responsible adult telling you what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>And what not to do right. It's your You're the

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<v Speaker 4>job is to be like a surrogate parent.

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<v Speaker 5>That's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 2>As a financial I'm a human too. As a financial planner,

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<v Speaker 2>I make the same mistakes. I just know exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>impact of the bad choice I'm about to make sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian James, appreciate your assistance every week with these issues

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<v Speaker 4>and bringing things to our attention and providing some sound

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<v Speaker 4>financial advice. I'll look forward to another edition of Monday

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<v Speaker 4>Monday next Monday. Have a great week, my friend.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, sir. Have a good week.

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