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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here's

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Shit Cussos, your source of information and analysis to help

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you win your fantasy hockey league.

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Speaker 2: Block off hot, A step hit on, Staylock.

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Speaker 3: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 4: Matessey Hockey Life. This is Jesse Severe coming to you,

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the fan Tracks guy, talking a little bit of fantasy

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hockey folks. It is uh, It's a time of lots

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of things going on. It's a time of setting our

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lineups as we prepare for this Four Nations Cup. That

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is jacking up our fantasy schedules. And it is also

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a time of Victor and ice schedules getting crazy. So

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you do not hear Victor Nuno of Elite Prospects right now.

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You'll hear in plenty on this episode, but we're recording

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a little bit separately to talk about fantasy hockey today.

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What I can't tell you is you can always find

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Victor in our Fantasy Hockey Life discord. I've seen people

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ask even to come in this week. And let me

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tell you, if you're a fantasy hockey fan who's coming

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into a discord in February, I am applauding you. I'm

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loving you. It's the only thing more exciting than that

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is somebody who shows up like in July. But I

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would say that right now is a great time to

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pop in there. If you're considering your dynasty, trade deadline work,

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are you buying, are you selling? Which target prospects you have?

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You can jump in there. And Victor also he's got

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lots of things going on in our Patreon that you

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can follow up on, and that includes some special access.

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Victor will give you a roster doctor go over, do

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a full on once over of your team, or sometimes

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I jump in and do that too if you request

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me and just try to figure out what should we do,

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what would I make of this roster? And there are

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also special rankings that you can get special Patreon or special.

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There are a little bit of special Discord things with that,

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but there's a whole lot of activity going on in

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the general discord channels. And again it's free, so you

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can do all those things. Hit us up and Fantasy

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Hockey Life at gmail dot com is generally the easiest

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way to do that. We give you the link you

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pop right in all right and Patreon dot com slash

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fantasy hockey life is how you can go to do

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that if you care to. We are going to have

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our regular check in with our Tiered Dynasty league. It

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say it's unique. There are other tiered leagues. The couple

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comes to mind. There there are I know, my guy,

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my guy. The Fantasy Commission does this for baseball, but

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in fantasy hockey and dynasty, you're not going to find

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another place with promotion and relegation for leagues. And it's

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getting hot at this time. You people try to figure

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out what they're going to do. So we're going to go.

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It's called the Tidy the Tiered Dynasty, and this episode

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is all about that.

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Speaker 3: Right after this, welcome back everyone, and we are excited

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to bring you another edition of Tidy Takes. And to

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do that, of course, we're going to bring in our

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Admiral Ryan.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, my friend, Victor, I wish I could

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say I was doing a little bit better. You know,

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just right off the top here, both of us are

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battling a bit of a cold here. You know, those

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of us who are following you on the discord know

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that you are probably one of the most busy people

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in the world right now with work obligations and different responsibilities.

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I'm in the midst of opening a new opera at

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the Canadian Opera Company where I work, So, you know,

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bad timing for an illness like this, but hey, we're

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going to battle through it today because we are committed

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podcasters who are going to provide you with all of

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the great insight on players from the World Juniors who

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were traded in our Tidy league. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited, and yes, thank you for that acknowledging that

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we are playing a little hurt with our vocal cords.

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But we're here regardless, and I'm excited to talk about

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these players. And you've collated our team. Tidy Team has

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collated some really interesting trades and we'll touch on them.

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Most of them relate to the World Juniors. It's obviously

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some other players involved as well, so let's get after it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I have to credit our tidy Ko commission, Tim Ay.

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Tim has been great in posting all these trades. I

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occasionally step in and post a few too, but Tim

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has been really on top of it. We made a

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promise to our listenership and to the Tidy managers that

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we would stay on top of any trades in the

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league because you know, our trade deadline is coming up

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on February twenty third. We want to make sure that

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everyone has all the information that they need the most

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successible format on our Tidy Trades channel to make sure

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that they know what the values of these players are

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right now. And yeah, yeah, the focus for this episode

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was to look at World Junior players, players who played

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in the most recent World Junior tournament. You know, this

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is usually the time when a lot of those players

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get traded because there are perceived value changes after the tournament.

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actually does change or whether people just become aware of

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some of these players like the Dallabor divorce kis and

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the Anton Wohlbergs of the world, and certainly those become

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interesting trade chips for the Tidy teams that are looking

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to push in and win a championship. And so I

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collated a bunch of different trades that involve some of

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those players, and we've had a lot of them, right.

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It was kind of a trickle. When I started prepping

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this about three weeks ago, we only had one or two.

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But since then, a lot of our managers have stepped

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up and a lot of those players have moved, So

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we're going to dive right into it here with a

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trade from Tidy or. This is a trade involving mister

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Puddles and Glocta. Mister Puddles acquire Robert Thomas and Ryan O'Reilly,

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two pro centers in the NHL from glockber Dlabor Divorski,

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a player for the Czech team in the World Junior Championship,

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as well as left wing Andrew Basha and current NHL

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rookie center with the Detroit Red Wings Marco Casper. Our

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Tidy listenership voted this one hundred percent in favor of

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mister Puddle's acquiring those two NHL pros, and just to

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context julyze the deal here. Both O'Reilly and Thomas are

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floating around four and a half Fantasy points per game

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in the Tidy League, with obviously Devorski and Basha not

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having made their NHL debuts, in Casper hanging around at

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a replacement level, although he has been really hot lately,

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and we'll get into that certainly. When I asked the

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managers for some feedback, I didn't get anything back from Glocta.

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But here's what mister Puddles had to say. He said

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that he is a Blues fan, so it was hard

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to let Divorski go. That he's excited for him and

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Snuggerwood to eventually replace schn and Sad in the lineup

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one day, hopefully soon. Sad, as we all know, has

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actually recently just agreed to a mutual contract termination with

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the Blues, so he might end up somewhere else and

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maybe we see his replacement in the lineup sooner rather

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than later. Mister Puddles continues to say that he is

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pushing the Chips in this year, and that Divorski wasn't

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going to help him in a minor spot as anything

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other than a trader chip and that his Great World

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juniors worked in his favor, probably increasing his value. So

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with the win, now Blinders firmly strapped on, Puddles got

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two guys in the four and a half to five

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and a half points per game ranging exchange for two

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players that would get him zero points per game this

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year and Casper's three points per game at the time

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of the deal, And most importantly, he still got to

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soothe his Blues fans soul by acquiring Thomas Victor. It

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may not be a surprise to you, but for reasons

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we will get to you later. But I'm a big

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fan of any manager pushing the chips in and trying

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to win right now, and so along with the other

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managers and the Tidy, I voted for the Puddles side

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as a result. How about you, We're gonna be talking

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a lot today about upgrading players using multiple assets today

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and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this one.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I don't know if you were trying to

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troll anyone, but Dvorski is definitely Slovak, not check. So

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in case you want to amend.

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Speaker 2: That, yep, I definitely wasn't trying to troll anyone. This

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is just cold medication, Victor.

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Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah, I hopped up on cold medicine.

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That's that's always a good one. So, you know, I

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think for me, it's hard not to see this as

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a win win. I like mister Puddles getting two players

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above replacement level and the Tidy that's about three point

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five points per game, and so he's got two players

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that are you know, four point five five, four point

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eighty five. That's pretty nice, I think, O'Reilly, is you know,

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potentially close to a decline. He's been a little bit

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up and down with Nashville as they haven't been as

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great as we would have thought at times. But he's

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still a really solid player. And then Thomas, you know,

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he should be really good for a while. He's only

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twenty five and he's got you know, he's kind of

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the middle of his prime, and he seems to be

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at least at his peak or reaching his peak, which

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is really nice. None of that matters, really if he

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gets promoted this year. None of the other distance in

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the future, who's going to produce after this really matters.

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But I kind of like to know that if you

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push your chips in, you're not totally screwed if you

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don't win this one year. It's nice if your window

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extends by a year or two. I've done this with

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a couple of moves, you know. A few years ago,

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I pushed my chips in one league and acquired Sidney Crosby,

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knowing that he was a bit older, but figured I

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had a few more years of him, and that's been

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the case, been able to enjoy a little bit longer production.

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So I like that for Glocta, he gets three lottery tickets.

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Casper is already producing above replacement level or you know,

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roughly around there, which is really kind of nice, and

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the flex up and down is nice. Frankly, I've been

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surprised seeing Casper play right wing on that top line.

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I kind of figured he'd be more of that third

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line center and I think he probably ends up there.

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top of the lineup, and you know, certainly that increases

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the value if he can stay in that spot, and

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maybe he will, so I think this is I think

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whether this is a win win or just a win

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for mister Puddles comes down to how bashan divorce KI

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work out. I think they're both really nice prospects. I'm

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not sure that they will be higher than Robert Thomas.

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I kind of doubt it. From a points per game category,

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probably somewhere between Casper and O'Reilly is what I would

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expect for those two. So if you lose two guys

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around four point five points per game and get three back,

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that are you know, kind of roughly in that range.

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I think by total points, that's a win. But I

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like the consolidation towards fewer roster spots, and I think

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if he got two players that were both the same

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age as o'reiley, I would like it a lot less.

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But the fact that he got Thomas, who's much much younger,

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I do lean mister Puddles on this one.

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Speaker 2: What about you, Ryan, Yeah, that acquisition of Thomas is

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the key here. It's a move that makes sense now

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and in the future. There are NHL players who believe

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that Robert Thomas is one of those next players who's

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going to have that big breakout season. I can't say

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that I disagree with them. He is so talented and

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skilled on the ice. I think the best is yet

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to come for him, and I would love to own

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him for his age twenty five to twenty nine years.

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Of course, mister Puddles is hoping he isn't holding Thomas

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for that long, unless he also picks him up in

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Lord Stanley when he eventually gets there. I agree with

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you that if it was two players at the Ryan O'Reilly,

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you know age and you know point level, that they

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would be a little bit disappointing, especially because, as you said,

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Marco Casper is now playing on the top line and

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top power play on the flank with the Detroit Red Wings,

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and I was just as surprised as you to see

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that Victor. But then I was thinking about it a

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little bit more, and I realized that, you know, although

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I had originally thought that Marco Casper would probably fill

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one of those JT. Coomper or Andrew Kopp roles in

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the Detroit Red Wings lineup, that they also have Nate

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Danielson and Michael Bransig Neuwguard who can also play those roles.

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Seattle Kraken, So certainly I think one of them probably

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has to play somewhere else, and Marco Casper is carving

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out a nice little role for himself in Detroit with

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Raymond and Larkin. Looking at the other pieces here, Devorski

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is a major piece obviously of this trade and puddles

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as trading Blues future for Blues present. Either way, I

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think Thomas will still be the straw that stirs the

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drink on that team for the next couple of years,

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even when that Slavic mafia rolls in and takes over,

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with players like Stanchel and Urchek coming in. With Divorski,

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I totally understand using Basha, Casper, and Divorski to upgrade

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and get the one C on your favorite team here,

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and although Casper is making it difficult recently, this deal

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is a win for the Thomas side. Moving on to

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our next trade here, which is an interesting one here

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in the Lidstrom Division. Colalby, who is a team that

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has been near the top of our omnifast track challenge

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here to move up from Lidstrom into Lord Stanley, potentially

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has acquired another great NHL pro in Nazam Kadri's center

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for the Calgary Flames, in exchange for Alex Lafarrier of

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the Los Angeles Kings and Edward Shall of the Coachella

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Valley Firebirds from Marcus. This was deemed a pretty even

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trade by our tidy listenership. Kadri and Lafarier are both

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grading at very similarly have five Fantasy points per game,

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but Cadri does have the pedigree and experience in the league.

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Speaking with the managers here didn't get anything back from Colalby,

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who I think is just too busy dominating the league

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to talk to a plub like me. But Marcus did

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have this to share that The original offer proposed to

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Marcus was Cadre for Lafarier straight up, which makes sense

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when you look at their fantasy points for game. Being

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pretty even, Marcus was actively shopping Cadri due to his

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surplus of center and being nearly in last place, felt

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that getting younger was key. He didn't think that the

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initial trade off was that far off from what he

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was looking for, but he tries not to trade one

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for one when he's losing the best player like Kadri.

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He knew that Shala was a middle first round pick

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from a couple of years ago with some pedigree, checked

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his production and saw that there was some significant growth

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this season when he was playing with Coachella, and thought

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it could be a by low opportunity here or use

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him in the future to package for a better asset.

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So he just asked for Shalla as a throw in.

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Shala who played, Now, Victor, you can correct me if

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I'm wrong here. Shalla did play for check yah right, yep, okay,

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so I got that one right, great, Thank you, Tylan

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all cold and flu That communication took all of three minutes,

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and then Shalla was thrown into the deal to make

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it happen. The World Unions then happened, and he was

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much more excited by the trade owning Shala after his

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dominant tournament. He will still potentially look to package Shalla

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to buy upwards, So all of you Tidy Lister managers

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take note that Marcus is open for business on Shala.

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The last thing that Marcus had to say here is

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that one of the benefits of the Tidy League is

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that Klalby was in the running for Omni Track at

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the time, so there might have been more incentive to

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get a guy like Cadri at that particular moment. To me,

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this is fair enough for Cadri. Two young players with

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offensive upside who could land anywhere in the lineup. Two

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Lotto tickets for a pretty reliable to see on your

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pro roster makes sense for Klalby, who at the moment

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is third in the Omni Track race and needs a

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more reliable NHL proe than the Farrier who is streaky

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at best, especially on the Los Angeles Kings right now

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who are having trouble scoring Victor. I'm not going to

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try to evaluate Shalla because I know you've seen a

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lot of this player, So how well do you think

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Marcus did in this trade pulling Shalla as a throw in, well, I.

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Speaker 3: Think getting more than just lea ferrier is really a

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good idea for sure. I think many have listened to

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this pod know that I've been skeptical of Edward Shalle.

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He has shown in the past that he is kind

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of disinterested at times at both ends of the ice

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away from the puck. That's been a real problem for him.

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But I have to say there was a big difference

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this year, I think, not just at the World Juniors,

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but at Coachella Valley. I mean, we saw some of

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the amazing work that he did willing his team, you know,

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to to far in the tournament, really coming up clutch

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in several really important games for Chechia. That was really

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important to see. And I think it says a lot

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that the country made him their captain, you know. I

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think that if he was really struggling with some of

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those away from the puck things as much as he

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had in the past, he might not have worn that letter.

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And so I think that was a big factor. And

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the fact that he's been producing at Coachella Valley currently

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as we're recording this, fifteen points and thirty games is

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nothing to sneeze at. He's done really well in the AHL.

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It's not a difficult it's not an easy league to play,

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and he's still only nineteen for a couple more months,

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and so you know, teenagers playing in the OHL is

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a really I mean, in the ANHL, sorry, is a really,

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really difficult thing to do. And so I am shifting

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my opinion on Challe and I think it's great that

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Marcus got him when he could, because I think there

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was not as much of an opinion shift when that happened,

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and so sometimes you know, that's kind of a good thing.

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And maybe still it's a it's a time to move

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on again and strike while the iron's hot, or maybe

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you see what he ends up with. We talked about

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him a little bit with Mitch on the on a

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previous pot about how he seems more likely to be

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in NHL or Edward Charlie now and so, but I

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still don't know that he's like a top of the

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lineup kind of guy. Probably more of a middle to

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bottom six guy, some depth scoring, but still a lot

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more interesting and exciting than he could have been. I

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think overall, this seems like a win win and Calalabi

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gets the better win now piece in Kaudrey, who's doing

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really well on a surprisingly good Calgary team. I think

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a lot of people thought that they would really struggle.

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I really love what Calgary is doing. They're allowing some

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of their younger guys to play and actually contribute, and

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it's going pretty well for them. You know, they got

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the Zari, they got Coronado playing, they got you know,

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Dustin Wolf is a Calder candidate, so it's really fun

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to see and Cadri is kind of leading the pack there,

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so I really like to see that. I just traded

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for Kadri in a cap dynasty, so I'm really hoping

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this that he does really well. That's a little bit

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of a different situation because his contract's a little high

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maybe for what his production is. But I had the

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space and I wanted to and centerves like that are

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hard to acquire. What's really interesting to me in this

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deal and is probably not true in other leagues, but

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in the tidy le Ferrier and Kadri are actually pretty

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close in terms of points, Kadri at five point one

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eight Ferrier and five point oh one, And I think

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when I kind of put in some numbers here because

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I was really interested to see why that was the case,

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because I think in other leagues it's probably a bit disparate,

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and Kadri is is quite a bit more valuable, and

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sometimes that plays into it here when people are just

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looking at name value. I think by name value alone

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you would assume Kadri is much much better, but not

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really the case here. The things that are interesting to

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me is that because Tidy rewards play driving, Lafarrier has

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fewer giveaways or potentially more takeaways. I'm not exactly sure

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it doesn't split that out. Lafarrier has more hits and

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and his Fenwick is much better, so that is interesting.

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The rest of the stats really favorite Kaudre, the time

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on ice, the total points and shots power play points,

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although negative are minor penalties, and Cadre has more of those,

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so it's interesting that these guys are a little bit

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closer and why I kind of like the settings for

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Tidy because it really rewards players like a Farrier that

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are just really good play drivers and slightly punishes guys

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like Cadre who have a few more takeaway giveaways a

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little bit worse fenwick and take a few more penalties,

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so it kind of levels the playing field a little bit.

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What do you think about all that Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Nazom Kadre and taking penalties. As a Leafs fan, I

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wouldn't know anything about that, So yeah, I think the

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question for me here is how good will Shalla be? Really?

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You know, when I saw this trade for the first time,

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that's kind of the question that was bouncing around in

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my head there. I think we could see Laferrier as

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a middle six swinger for his entire career, especially you know,

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being somewhat limited on the La Kings with you know,

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less offensive production throughout that lineup, and if Shalla ends

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up in the middle six two then I think I

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would have liked to have gotten more for Cadre. But

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like you said, it's a win win at the end

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of the day, both managers get something for where the

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teams are right now. So well done. I think it's

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as simple as that. So next Victor, this is going

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to be interesting. We've been talking about this one all week,

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you and I as we try to figure out how

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to approach discussing this. It's a collection of very interesting

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trades that we're going to talk about altogether because it

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actually might make more sense to see the full picture

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here before we render judgment, and to just give some

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context for the listener here. You know, the Tidy we

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are not immune to managers needing to step away, needing

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to back out of the league for various reasons, or

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you know, managers not setting their lineups. It certainly happens

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more rarely than in other leagues because you do have

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to be a patron of Fantasy Hockey life to be

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a part of the Tidy League, and so people usually

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have some financial investment and sticking around in the league.

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But we do have to replace managers from time to time,

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and we do have a friend of ours, Anthony also

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known as Pish, who has come off the bench to

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take over a team that was captained by someone we

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mentioned earlier, mister Puddles, who has moved up to take

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over another team in a higher tier as he was

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doing so well in Lidstrom and so Puddles was contending

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for the Omni Track on this team as well in

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the Lidstrom Division, which is our entry level division. Pish,

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as of right now, is top of the table in

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the Omni Track race, a mere nineteen points ahead of

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veteran tidy manager miss Sticks and Pish is a rich man,

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indeed rich in FAB. That's free agent budget following these

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deals made over the course of five hours. So these

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are the first two deals that kind of click clue

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us into what was going on here. We have Pish's

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Puddles sending away Trevor Connolly, who played for the US

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World Junior team this year and goaltending prospect Evan Gardner

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for one hundred dollars in FAB. And then we also

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had in the same kind of time period, we had

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Pish sending away Connor Clifton defenceman prospect to center, Chas

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Lucius prospect defenseman for the Calgary Flames, Hunter Brustevitch, and

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Braden Yaeger, who is the team Canada captain this year

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for the World Juniors for Kyle Palmieri and thirty dollars

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in FAB. Those were the first two trades, Victor that

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tipped me off to something going on here. So if

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we have the running total here, Pish has acquired one

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hundred and thirty dollars in free agent budget for Trevor Connolly,

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Braden Jaeger and some spare parts, and then some other

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trades started to roll in involving Pish and FAB. Pish

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had acquired sixty dollars in FAB for Emil Andre from EDM.

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Moiler thirteen and had eventually acquired twenty dollars in FAB

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and Michel Grandland from the Aschin Great Fantasy Team name

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here for Maverick Bork and so lots of different moving

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pieces here. I'm just going to summarize it here before

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I share a little bit of what the managers had

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to say about the full tallly of these trades. Are

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Pish sending out Trevor Connolly, Braden Yaeger, recent World Junior

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Championship players for the US and Canada, NHL pro Connor

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Clifton and prospects Evan Gardner, Chas Lucius Hunter Brustevitch and

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Emil Andre in exchange for pros Kyle Palmiery, Michael Grantland

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and one hundred and fifty dollars in FAB. So do

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we all have our abacuses out? Are we all doing

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our math? Here? Here's what Pish had to say in

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terms of the trades Jaeger and Connolly deal's I pretty

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clearly lost both of those trades. I'm all in this

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year and shopped all the players in the deals quite

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a bit, with limited interest from the rest of the league.

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My goal the rest of the way out is to

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get us close to seventy five skater games and fourteen

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goalie games each week. Seventy five being, of course, our

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skater game min max limit for any given matchup. I

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don't want any skater on the minor league roster, Pitch said,

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who isn't playing in the NHL right now? For the

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goalies and the miners, everyone is either playing now or

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I could see an injury getting time as the backup.

474
00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:33,440
I might have been able to get more waiting for

475
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,279
those players at the deadline, but I'm in the running

476
00:24:35,319 --> 00:24:37,799
for first or second in the omni track, which comes

477
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:41,079
with or sorry, first or second in the division, which

478
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:43,720
comes with a very valuable buy. Paul Meary was the

479
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,720
best upgrade that he could find for Clifton. The other

480
00:24:46,839 --> 00:24:49,519
managers had something to say as well. In this deal,

481
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,039
you know a bit of an interesting discussion I would

482
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:54,920
imagine when it comes into the fab question. So here's

483
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,880
what Cam the Newfoundland Growlers GM had to say. My

484
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,599
rational about this t was that I'm in last place

485
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,799
with no shot at making playoffs, so I don't need

486
00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:06,000
FAB to contend, so I felt it was better to

487
00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:09,279
use it to obtain assets. That Gardner was a goalie

488
00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:10,960
that he liked, that he gave up in a previous

489
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,839
trade and was happy to get him back, and that

490
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,119
Connolly was a first round pick in this past draft

491
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,960
who seems to have a lot of fantasy upside when

492
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,119
he joins the league. He felt like he could either

493
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,279
keep him and fit him in whenever he joins the league,

494
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,119
or packaging with other pieces to obtain another prospect or

495
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,319
a young player that he likes more. Cows, who was

496
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,039
the general manager who moved on from Palmiery, says that

497
00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:32,519
he really liked Palmiery but realized he needed to go

498
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,400
younger and adding three good prospects was worth it, and

499
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,720
that the FAB was to help the trade work. That

500
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:39,480
he likes the trade and he's happy with how it

501
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:42,599
worked out. People talk about money in and money out

502
00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:44,599
when it comes to NHL trades, Victor, but I'm not

503
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:46,519
sure this is what they had in mind. What do

504
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,359
you make of vicious strategy here, Victor, to acquire all

505
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,559
of the FAB in the league.

506
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 3: Well, I don't really understand the strategy of needing much fab.

507
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,400
Quite frankly, I think that, you know, every league is

508
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,400
a little bit different, and there are certainly leagues where

509
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:05,519
FAB is really really important. Maybe I'm missing something here,

510
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,160
It's quite possible, but I don't remember needing to throw

511
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,279
down a bunch of fab in tidy to get a player.

512
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,880
I can think of certain situations, maybe in the playoffs,

513
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,119
where someone drops, and certainly if you have a first

514
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,440
round by and maybe someone drops a decent player during

515
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,640
the playoff who's competing during that first round by, I

516
00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:26,720
could see that. I don't remember that happening to the

517
00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:30,480
significant point where you would need excessive amounts of FAB.

518
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,599
I can also think of the recent signing of Tony DiAngelo.

519
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,400
I know in many leagues that was someone who people

520
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,599
were really excited to add because it was a new

521
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,079
player who hadn't been available previously. I could see a

522
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,319
situation where you might want to blow your fab on

523
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,160
a player like that, But I also really don't think

524
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,359
that he's any kind of league winner. You know, he's

525
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,440
someone who might might be a little bit above replacement,

526
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,160
But if you have a strong team, I'm not sure

527
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,880
that you're really jones in to throw down all your

528
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:01,920
money on a player like that. So I'm just really

529
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000
not sure. I don't know that I understand that strategy.

530
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,519
I would love to hear's thoughts if there's and what

531
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,119
he uses that for. Maybe there's going to be some

532
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,680
amazing strategy that we haven't thought about and we're gonna

533
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,680
all look silly, So I would love to hear about that.

534
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,880
I feel like a better strategy might be to get

535
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,400
anyone who's playing now as opposed to in the minors.

536
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,799
But as Pitch said, not much interest, so maybe there

537
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,799
just wasn't a deal to be made. It's always easy

538
00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:31,359
to say you should have done this deal, you should

539
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,640
have done that deal, but maybe that wasn't available, and

540
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,799
so you just do what you can. I think if

541
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:38,920
it were me, I would have just kept Andre. I

542
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,640
don't know that I would have wanted or needed that fab.

543
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,599
I think that it's quite possible that one of the

544
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,359
Philly defenseman gets injured or something happens, and Emma and

545
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,440
Andre comes back up and starts playing again, and then

546
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,319
you have a relevant roster player for nothing that you

547
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:58,359
could have just kept. So that's what I would have

548
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,640
done in the end. I think pishk got too competent

549
00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:06,039
NHLers and for guys he wasn't gonna use anyways. Most

550
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,799
likely maybe Andre, but possibly not. I love the yolo mentality.

551
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,920
You only live once. You throw all your pusher chips

552
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,039
in and you try to win, and if it doesn't work,

553
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,319
then you regroup and try to do it again, hopefully

554
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:23,839
with enough assets. I think in this context, he's in

555
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,240
a really good position where I think it's super unlikely

556
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:30,400
that he doesn't finish with some sort of promotion ticket.

557
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,160
I think it's possible, but it's unlikely. So if you're

558
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,640
feeling pretty good about your promotion chances, and I think

559
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,319
it's easier to throw caution to the wind, maybe we

560
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:41,519
could argue that he could have gotten more, but we

561
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:43,960
weren't in that situation. We weren't in those negotiations, so

562
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:45,480
it's kind of hard to say. But that's kind of

563
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,319
where I'm ending up on this. Ryan. What do you think?

564
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that Victor. There's no real downside here

565
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,119
for pish. I think I'm just going to contextualize this

566
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,759
a little bit for the listener. But the lidstream division

567
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,000
is the bottom division. You know, we have someone in

568
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:04,039
the discord earlier today asking you know what happens if

569
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:06,880
I finish in last place in Lidstrom? You know, do

570
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,000
I get to keep my team? And I just said,

571
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,720
you know, you can't go much lower than the basement,

572
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,599
So I think I think you're okay with that. So

573
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:17,720
you don't need to worry about relegation, mister last place

574
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:20,559
team in the Tidy Lidstrom. And so there is no

575
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,319
real downside for Pish here. You know, worst case scenarios,

576
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:26,920
he doesn't get his promotion and you know, maybe the

577
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,599
depth of the team is not great and he can

578
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,200
rebuild in the draft, or you know, maybe he just

579
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:33,880
moves on and this team enters the you know, the

580
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,480
dispersal draft for a future team. Who knows. But so, yeah,

581
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,480
there's no real downside here. And just to further contextualize

582
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,240
our use of FAB in the Tidy League, you know,

583
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:45,880
I'm looking at a at a pickup here that Pish

584
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,279
made earlier in January where he spent forty three FAB

585
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,680
dollars on Jonas Johansson, backup goalie for the Tampa Bay Lightning.

586
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:57,480
I remember the year that Ed and I won the

587
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,559
inaugural or division of Tidy A couple of years ago

588
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,200
we picked up Yonas Johansson as well for some FAB

589
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:07,680
spend and he really helped us, you know with those

590
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,920
goalie cats which are particularly hard to get in the tidy.

591
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:13,279
So that kind of a use of FAB. I can

592
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:16,000
understand when you want to blow the competition out of

593
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,200
the water and make sure you get a Yonas Johansson

594
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,599
who could fill in for and Andrea Vassilevski if he's out

595
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,920
for a long time. But just the day to day

596
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,720
use of FAB in this league, you know, you're using

597
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:29,240
maybe one or two dollars at a time. You know,

598
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:32,640
earlier this morning, Ed and I picked up Alex Klorn

599
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,039
for two dollars in FAB, Andrew Peak for one dollar

600
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:38,200
in FAB. We're trying to bolster our chances in the

601
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,160
playoffs coming up, and so that's kind of how we

602
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:44,680
use FAB. And so with Pish having two hundred and

603
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,160
sixty dollars in FAB right now, I'm interested to see

604
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,359
how he's going to use it. For sure, when it

605
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,519
comes to the actual trades and the players, it's a

606
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:54,680
pretty bad return for Conley and Yeager, which Pish acknowledged.

607
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:57,400
Both may have the opportunity to play major roles on

608
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,039
their future NHL teams, or in Connolly's case, wherever Vegas

609
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,799
decides to trade him in two to three years. Andre

610
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,400
only going for sixty dollars in fab is also pretty

611
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,039
crazy to me. Without great he's been this season and

612
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,480
is limited time with the big club. We'll have to

613
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:13,240
check back in on this one, like you say, to

614
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,599
see how Pitch uses his windfall. We'd love to hear

615
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,559
from you a pish. If you're out there listening, feel

616
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:19,759
free to write in our Tidy chat. We'd love to

617
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,519
have a conversation more about this, just to figure out,

618
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,279
you know, what we can learn from a strategy standpoint here, Victor,

619
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,880
is time now for us to take a break, and

620
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,640
when we come back, we'll be talking about one of

621
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,640
the more dynamic players from this year's and previous year's

622
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,880
World Juniors. We'll tell you who that is. On the

623
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:42,799
other side, you're listening to Tidy takes.

624
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: This could lead to excellent our serious injury.

625
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: When and we're back, and we tease before the break

626
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,839
that we'd be spending some time talking about a dynamic

627
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:59,519
player from this year's World Juniors. And he's been that

628
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,799
dynamic player for several years in this tournament, a veteran

629
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,480
of twenty one games in the under twenty tournament, two

630
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,960
time winner of the Best Defenseman award for the tournament

631
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,720
this year as well as in twenty twenty three. Of course,

632
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:15,000
we're talking Axel Sandy and Pelica Victor. I want to

633
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:16,960
change up the format here. I want you to wax

634
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,200
poetic about this guy before we dive into the two

635
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:21,599
trades involving him in the tidy. What should we know

636
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,480
about ASP?

637
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's doing really great for Shi Leftia AIK

638
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,400
this season. I think that, you know, last season was

639
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,759
with them and they won the SHL Championship from the

640
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:40,000
third place position in the regular season, which is always

641
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,920
kind of interesting. He his point paces up twenty four

642
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,839
points in thirty two games from eighteen to thirty nine

643
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,359
last season. Some of the other things that are interesting

644
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,000
is that his total time on ice has gone up

645
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:54,359
nearly two minutes, and almost all of that is shorthanded.

646
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,319
Last season, ASP did not play shorthanded at all, and

647
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,440
this season they're trusting him in all situations a lot more,

648
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:06,559
which is really really heartwarming, really good to see. You know,

649
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,359
he's actually second on the entire team in total time

650
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,200
on ice, and I think this is a really big

651
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,400
deal because my biggest concern from him has always been

652
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,440
his even strength time on ice. There's no doubt in

653
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,559
my mind that he will be the top power play

654
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,400
quarterback option in Detroit. Whether or not the coach uses

655
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,920
him that way is certainly his decision, but he should be. However,

656
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:32,519
if isp is top quarterback on the power play but

657
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:34,880
only playing seventeen to eighteen minutes on a third pair,

658
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:37,039
that is going to be really hard to put up

659
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,680
incredible fantasy numbers. If, however, he's playing shorthanded, if he's

660
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,920
playing good even strength minutes, that is really going to

661
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,160
help his peripheral coverage. And of course you can get

662
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,160
a little bit more of a trickle with those five

663
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,000
on five points, so that is going to massively improve

664
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:58,440
his value. I still think he's more of a second

665
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,240
pair guy than a top pair guy, but it's not

666
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:04,480
out of the realm of possible now, especially with his

667
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,720
recent play both in the club play and of course,

668
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,639
I think people will really recognize his World Junior play.

669
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,519
He was the captain of that team Sweden. Of course,

670
00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:17,840
they continue to struggle in the playoff format, but dominant

671
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,960
in many other aspects of the game. Ten points in

672
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:23,480
seven games, one of the best defensemen there, really showing

673
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:28,440
all situation dominance at his age level. I think, you know,

674
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:33,920
people are still forgetting because he's been talked about for

675
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,960
a couple of years now, but he's still only nineteen.

676
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,440
He's still only nineteen, dominating world juniors, playing in the

677
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:43,800
SHL for as many games as he had being so young.

678
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,719
This is all an incredible resume, and I think we

679
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,039
should be really really excited about this player. I think

680
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:53,840
we're going to really be able to see him do

681
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:57,719
incredible things when he does make the transition. I was

682
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,840
just looking this up. Ninety three SHL games before the

683
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,079
age of twenty is pretty incredible stuff. So I love

684
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:07,280
to see that. I think he's better than a third

685
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,800
pair guy now, and so we're just going to have

686
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,800
to have to see how the Red Wings incorporated him

687
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,119
and use him. But that's my initial thoughts on him. Ryan.

688
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:19,360
I think I'm really changing my mind. I think I'm

689
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,360
really seeing him more competent at even strength and in

690
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,360
shorthanded situations, which I didn't really see early on. It

691
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,760
was a lot more just offense from him.

692
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,519
Speaker 2: Thanks for setting us up, Victor, and let's put a

693
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:35,440
pin in that second pairing thought, because I think that's

694
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,239
going to come up a little bit later. To offer

695
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,360
some full disclosure here, one of the trades we're going

696
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,159
to talk about. The last one was my very own,

697
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,320
as we sent away Axel, Sandy and Pelica for some

698
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,599
upgrades in our division. We're moving on from him to

699
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:51,679
try and compete at the top of the Lord Stanley Division.

700
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:54,000
But we'll talk about that later because this first deal,

701
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:57,039
Victor has too many exciting star players to discuss. And

702
00:35:57,079 --> 00:36:00,360
I understand as part of the Patreon perks that you

703
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,119
get for being a patron of Fantasy Hockey Life, you

704
00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:06,880
do get the opportunity to bounce some trade ideas, do

705
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,559
some roster doctoring with the roster doctor himself, Victor Nunio,

706
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,400
And I know that you consulted on this trade, and

707
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,599
so I'll be interested to know what you have to

708
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:20,079
say here. This is a trade in the Tidy Lidstrom Division,

709
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:25,280
again our bottom division, where Scott Scott detur acquires a

710
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,159
defenseman Jared Spurgeon of the Minnesota Wild, recently returned from

711
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:34,039
his injury, Alex Ovechkin, who is just crushing it this year,

712
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,960
the gray haired Russian phenom is still chasing Wayne Gretzky

713
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:42,480
and looking great doing so. And that's just for Jesse.

714
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:44,719
I know he's gonna love hearing that when he does

715
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,519
the edit later. And Sidney Crosby. So we've got Crosby, Ovechkin,

716
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:52,559
and Spurgeon going to Scott in exchange for Axel sandin Pelica,

717
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,159
Scott Lawton center for the Philadelphia Flyers, and Jason Robertson,

718
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,599
the Star left winger for the Dallas Stars. So it's

719
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:03,239
a very interesting trade here. You're getting some really high

720
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,199
quality veterans in Ovechkin and Crosby, as well as reliable

721
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:12,280
defenseman in Spurgeon for ASP and Robertson and Lawton. All

722
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,079
of these players very interesting certainly if you're the win

723
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,440
Now team. You're looking to acquire Ovechkin and Crosby, who

724
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,599
are seven and six Fantasy points per game respectively. Spurgeon

725
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:26,679
no slouch either at four point five, Robertson at five

726
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,159
point five, and Scott Lawton around four point twenty five.

727
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,159
So some disparate values here. You're hoping for ASB to

728
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,199
make up some of the value in the aggregate. Scott

729
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,599
had this to say he saw the opportunity to acquire

730
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,639
Ov while he was injured before Christmas in order to

731
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,360
keep up with the other big teams at the top

732
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,920
of the pack and pursue the omni track. It felt

733
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,360
it was his best chance to really up his top

734
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,760
end and adding Spurgeon help the floor. He initially didn't

735
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,039
want to include asp because he wanted to hold him

736
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,320
for a deadline deal as he would have top three

737
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,960
prospect d value, but the other man you're here, untidy,

738
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:05,199
untidy Lidstrom, great name, didn't want other offers that he

739
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,199
was suggesting that involved Liam Bixel Jeg or Surin because

740
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,280
he was also thinking to go high end. So Scott

741
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,079
decided that he would move Robertson as his last younger

742
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:17,880
NHL that he was willing to trade, and with him

743
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,519
not playing well at the time, it was the only

744
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,000
deal that he would accept, and then Lawton was kind

745
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,360
of a throw in center. Scott acknowledges that if he

746
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,440
doesn't win this year, that he's probably screwed if Ovie retires,

747
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,320
but that he hopes that he gets the record this

748
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,159
year and that Scott promotes out of Lidstrom into a

749
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:38,639
higher division rob who is the manager of Untidy Lidstrom.

750
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,840
His side of the trade is that Scott first expressed

751
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,320
this interest and sent the offer for Crosbyovechkin a Spurgeon

752
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,159
with Robertson as the centerpiece of the return, and that

753
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,880
through the negotiation of the deal settled on ASP. As

754
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,559
he was looking to bolster his d prospects given that

755
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:58,920
his team is fairly weak at the position, saw the

756
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,440
opportunity to solidate the value of three aging assets in Crosby,

757
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:07,239
Spurgeon and Ovechkin into next year's and future year's success.

758
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,960
Every prospect out there raves about ASP, according to Rob

759
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,880
and that he had liked what he'd seen of him

760
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,880
prior in the prior World Junior's Tournament, so landing him

761
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,320
the return was what he was looking for. He acknowledges

762
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,880
the risk of Cider keeping Powerplay one going forward, but

763
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,719
that the Wings haven't been shy in the past about

764
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,719
using literally anyone else up there instead of him see Gustavsen,

765
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,639
gostas Bear, et cetera, which he's hoping bodes well for ASP.

766
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,920
He mentioned that Scott is contending for first place and

767
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,599
has been in the omni track race all season, and

768
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:43,000
so the steel made sense for both sides. Tidy managers

769
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:45,679
are voting in favor seventy one percent of Scott's side

770
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,480
of the trade, and I can't say I disagree. Crosby

771
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,039
and Ovechkin saved the NHL after the four h five lockout,

772
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:53,320
and they look to be well on the way to

773
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,360
saving Scott's omni track hopes. Is ASP's future value enough

774
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,079
combined to Latin and j Rob to make this make

775
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:00,920
sense for you? Victor?

776
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you mentioned full disclosure, I did help Scott

777
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,880
with this deal, and I am happy to do that

778
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,239
for all patrons. That's a perk. You can run trade

779
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,119
ideas by me negotiate things. It's funny actually when I

780
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:15,320
have to be doing this on both sides, which I

781
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,079
tell the managers, Hey, both of you are asking my opinion,

782
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,079
and I always try to make it a win win.

783
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,360
I think a lot of these should be a win win,

784
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,400
and I still do even though I only help Scott

785
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,360
on this end. I think that most trades should be

786
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,079
a win win. I think this one is it helps

787
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:33,840
both players in their situation. I think Scott definitely gets

788
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,559
better now, but as he said, he better get promoted

789
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:38,039
or it's going to be a bit rough for him.

790
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:43,119
Sid Ov both great and Spurgeon channeling his inner MONI

791
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:47,639
Python whispering, I'm not dead yet. He coming back from

792
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:49,400
the Dad I believe the night at the dan for

793
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:52,639
we're recording this, he scored a goal, so he's hanging

794
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,079
in there. He's doing a good job. I think those

795
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:57,800
are some really good assets to come back the other way.

796
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,480
Will Obe retire after I assume he's going to get

797
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,840
the record this year. Maybe he won't, but if he doesn't,

798
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,880
I'm sure he will be back. If he does, I

799
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,719
think he'll probably also still be back and play as

800
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,960
long as he can, because he's just wired that way.

801
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,519
Crosby seems like he's going to continue playing for several

802
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:18,679
more years at an elite level because that's just who

803
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:24,199
he is. Spurgeon has definitely declined, but he's still well

804
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,760
above replacement level, which is kind of nice to see.

805
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:29,199
I think one of the biggest talking points in this

806
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,960
deal is Jason Robertson. He's a tricky one. Scott and

807
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,880
I had many conversations about him. That one hundred and

808
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,719
nine point season just seems like an anomaly at this point,

809
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,719
but you do see Robertson scoring in the point per

810
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,320
game plus range, but maybe he's closer to seventy eighty

811
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,599
point guy. If that's the case, then this is an

812
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:50,239
easy one to move off of. I think that he

813
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:53,480
has room for more. It really depends on how the

814
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:57,119
team deploys him. Certainly, with the emergence of Why Johnston

815
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000
and look at Stankovin, that has shifted a little bit.

816
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,000
When Robertson was putting up those huge point totals, he

817
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:05,360
was the man. He was getting all he was getting

818
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,840
fed all the pucks, and they were really relying on

819
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,920
him for the scoring. Now that they have more balance scoring,

820
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,119
they don't necessarily need that. But I still think he

821
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,039
can be more than a seventy to eighty point guy.

822
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,000
And I think this is a great move for Untidy

823
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,199
Lidstrom to be able to acquire a guy who has

824
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,280
that upside who's not really living up to it. So

825
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,480
I really like that part. And as we mentioned, ASP

826
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:30,360
could be killing it for Rob as early as next season.

827
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,840
Although the Red Wings love to slow play their prospects,

828
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,280
I think that ASP is going to see some time

829
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,760
in the AHL, even though as I said, nearly one

830
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,440
hundred SAHL games as a teenager. He is ready. He

831
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:45,639
is ready to step into that role now, even at

832
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:48,360
the end of this season, I don't know that they'll

833
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,199
do that. Maybe they reward him with a little bit

834
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,760
of a taste. But we've seen Simon and Edvnson, we've

835
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,159
seen Albert Johansson both do really well in the SHL

836
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,360
and need to pay their dues in the AHL before

837
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,000
coming up. So I have a strong feeling that's what

838
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:05,719
ASP is going to be doing. But even so, you

839
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,119
should be able to be seeing ASP in the wing

840
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:11,400
wheel in the not too distant future. And so I

841
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,840
really do like this for both sides. I think that

842
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:19,199
getting ASP and Jason Robertson, a guy whose stock is

843
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,960
down a little bit in Robertson but still has huge upside,

844
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,639
and ASP, who is just not that far away from

845
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:29,599
being likely a well above average player, is pretty great.

846
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:31,880
So when when I love it, what about you, Ryan?

847
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that Crosby is in this deal because

848
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,320
he offers a good jumping off point for my trade,

849
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,760
which we'll talk about shortly here. As Ed and I

850
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:46,840
the BFFs, we own Sidney Crosby, and he is actually

851
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,880
one of the reasons why we made the deal that's

852
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,840
coming up, and so it's interesting that Sid is involved.

853
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:56,119
You know, I think ASP can make up that value

854
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,639
eventually for rob. You know, I understand wanting to move

855
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:04,039
off of Crosby and Ovechkin more than Crosby because he's

856
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,920
a bit older and the potential of his career ending sooner.

857
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,719
You mentioned Crosby is going to be around for the

858
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,199
next couple of years, and I do believe that although

859
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:17,159
he is a man, right, he is mortal, and eventually

860
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:20,280
he should drop off, right like, that's just the way

861
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,440
of it. Although it looks like he will stay with

862
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,960
the Pittsburgh Penguins for the rest of that time, he

863
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:28,920
is just a man, and so he eventually will drop off.

864
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,519
And so I understand Scott wanting to, you know, get

865
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:35,000
these guys at their peak so he can jump up

866
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:37,400
to the next tier and not worry about it anymore.

867
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:39,960
So I completely understand it. And I'm going to transition

868
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:43,239
now into talking about my trade. This is the best

869
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,440
part about being one of the co hosts on Fantasy

870
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,440
Hockey Life is I can just make everybody listen to

871
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,920
a discussion of a trade that I did and see

872
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,960
how Victor thinks here and Victor, we did talk about

873
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,639
this when the trade happened, and this deal happened between

874
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,960
the BFFs, ME and Ed Swan and our old pal

875
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:06,360
Simon on the tidy commissioning team who took over team

876
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,079
in Lord Stanley this year the Ajax Tidy Knights, the

877
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:12,760
original manager had to step away. Simon stepped in. You know,

878
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,639
he's been very strong in the lower tiers and so

879
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,000
it made sense to just bring him on board into

880
00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:21,360
Lord Stanley. So we've got intercommission team dealing here, Victor,

881
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,880
and just make sure you know where your bread is buttered.

882
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,880
Between Simon and me, let's just say that here. Here's

883
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,519
the deal. And I mentioned Crosby is somewhat involved, Ed

884
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:35,039
and I own Sidney Crosby in the tidy. We want

885
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:37,800
to take advantage of the fact that we have Sidney Crosby.

886
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,840
We want to really go for it the next couple

887
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,920
of years. So we were looking to acquire pieces that

888
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,400
will be good for the next couple of years. We're

889
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,639
not really worried about four or five years down the

890
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:50,159
road here, We're worried about one, two and three years

891
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:54,440
from now. And so we acquired Gustav Forsling and Ricard Raquel,

892
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,079
who are both performing at pretty good clips in the

893
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:02,079
Tidy League. We have been missing a top line winger.

894
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:06,000
We've been missing a kind of mid tier defenseman in

895
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:09,119
our lineup, and so we decided we'd pulled the trigger

896
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:11,679
on this deal to get Gustav Foresling and Ricard Raquel

897
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:18,599
from Simon. Four Hampus Lindholm, who is currently or on

898
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,559
the IR for Boston and wasn't giving us any points,

899
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,639
Axel Sandy and Pelica. As we discussed, We've got prospect

900
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,599
Dawson or sorry not prospect young Centerman for the new

901
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:34,800
Jersey Devils, Dawson mercer prospect Cole Isserman who just starred

902
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,360
for the US team of the World Juniors, and we

903
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,079
threw in goaltender Ivon Fetotov to balance the scales.

904
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 3: Here.

905
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: Eight of the you know, give or take twenty five

906
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,039
managers voted this trade as even for US thirty two percent,

907
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,559
most people siding with Simon sixty percent, getting the bulk

908
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:55,079
of the assets as well as Axel sandein Pelica and

909
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:58,639
Cole Eiserman. And just how the points breakdown here. Victor

910
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,079
Riccard Raquel has had a he's averaging around six Fantasy

911
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:05,760
points per game, Foresling at four point five with Lindholm

912
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,760
when he has played this season at three point seventy five,

913
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,360
Mercer at three point five, and Ivan Fedotov very inconsistently

914
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,039
this year, putting up a round five Fantasy points per

915
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:19,480
game when he plays, which is rarely. It was a

916
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,280
bit of an odd experience asking for Tidy takes feedback

917
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,960
directly after completing this trade, but I did do that

918
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:28,159
for Simon, who had this to say. He took over

919
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:31,239
this roster four periods before the trade and had gone

920
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,360
three to one after going nine to zero with his

921
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:37,280
team build in Gretzky, and he wants to note that

922
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,400
that's a humble brag. He was pretty happy with the

923
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,239
results in the team that he had, but was concerned

924
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,039
about the upside of this roster. In Lord Stanley that

925
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,199
he had a couple of solid younger pieces, but not

926
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,079
enough to take him over the top and stay there.

927
00:47:49,559 --> 00:47:52,679
So after he felt reasonably confident about not being relegated

928
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:55,280
this year, he wanted to flip the aging pieces on

929
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,960
his teams in relegation, four younger pieces and overachieving pieces

930
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:02,880
to the winning teams. Overachieving like Ricard Raquel. We had

931
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,119
a bit of a spat on the discord between Ed

932
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,199
and Simon when we were trying to sell Asp, which

933
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,480
we made known you know in the league chat. We

934
00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:14,239
wanted to sell Asp to get a defenseman, and so

935
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,440
Simon put in the offer of Foresling and Riquel. You know,

936
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:20,480
he's he's sad to lose Foresling, but he's confident that

937
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,519
what you see is what you get with Foresling, and

938
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:25,960
that the return of Asp and Linnholms the downgrade would

939
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,639
make him happy for now. Simon believes that ASP could

940
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:32,480
be in Detroit's lineup next season. More on that later,

941
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:35,679
or in three and four years if Iiserman keeps signing

942
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:38,480
more demon. But he thinks that Asp is eventually a

943
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:41,320
six plus fantasy points per game guy, which is monster

944
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,159
value in the tidy Raquel at six plus fantasy points

945
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:47,679
be game with someone he was actively shopping. He tried

946
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,159
other trades for him to no avail, and so we

947
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,119
wanted him included as part of the deal, and we

948
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,519
decided to include Eiserman on the other side were we

949
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,880
negotiated a little bit. He wanted Fialla, which was a

950
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:01,719
too much for us to pay, so we ended up

951
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,440
moving on for Mercer, which was tough for me being

952
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,800
a Newfoundlander. Really hard to move on from the pride

953
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,360
of Bay Roberts Dawson Mercer, Mercer helps Simon today and

954
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,280
Izerman being the best prospect the Islanders have. He hopes

955
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,440
that he doesn't get ruined by Lou and the organization.

956
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,159
But you gotta love the potential idea of Iiserman with

957
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:22,920
Horvett and Barzel. If all goes well, in two to

958
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,760
three years, no one will remember Raquel and Forsling, and

959
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,159
Simon will be beginning his ascension to the top of

960
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:31,840
the Lord Stanley division. And as for Fetatav, goaltending with

961
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,440
Simon's weakest position and adding Fetatav will help him with

962
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,079
roster management and flexing him up and down. He's hoping

963
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:39,800
that he could figure it out and become a decent

964
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,960
goalie for me. Okay, So here's my thought here, Victor.

965
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:46,920
I know what you think of this deal, and you

966
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,480
can share that in just a moment, but I'm going

967
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:51,360
to defend myself a little bit here. I think that

968
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:55,079
Simon and I differ on upside projection for Axel Sandy

969
00:49:55,079 --> 00:49:58,440
and Pelica, and that's how this deal works out. I

970
00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:00,519
personally think he's more of a four and a half

971
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:04,599
fantasy points guy per game guy myself. Because it's crowded

972
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:07,360
in Detroit. You know, there still needs to be minutes

973
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,639
for Ben Sharatt and Justin Hall and Gustavsen. You know,

974
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:13,800
there's a lot of guys there who have multiple years

975
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,360
left on their contracts, not to mention the two absolute

976
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,559
stallions in Morrit Cider and Simon Edvnson. You know, although

977
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,639
I recognize that ASP has probably the most value on

978
00:50:25,679 --> 00:50:28,280
the power play out of those three guys, I don't

979
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,679
think you will see him as the like, no doubt,

980
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,599
number one power play quarterback for years to come on

981
00:50:34,639 --> 00:50:36,639
that team. I think it could be the kind of

982
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:38,920
thing where if one of those guys starts flagging, the

983
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,400
other guy will jump into that spot, and then you

984
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,559
have Asp as a top four defenseman or maybe a

985
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:47,320
third pair of defenseman who's not getting power play time.

986
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:49,559
And yes, he's talented, he's not going to be like

987
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:53,199
a Kaylin Addison type or Tony DiAngelo who has no

988
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,440
value outside of the power play. But he might top

989
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,760
out at a four point five fan points per game

990
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,199
guy if he doesn't get that consistent lineup placement. So

991
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,400
in my mind, we're upgrading Lindholm via ASP to Forslang,

992
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,840
who is, as Simon said, what you see is what

993
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,360
you get. Let's leave it right there for now before

994
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,559
we talk about the rest of the deal. How do

995
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:19,360
you view my evaluation of ASP here?

996
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's certainly possible that he could end

997
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,159
up that way. I think what I've seen from him

998
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:28,760
in the past year, six months to year, I do

999
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,440
think that he has a lot more value at even strength.

1000
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:33,599
I mean, I think, you know, you look at a

1001
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:35,719
guy like cal mccarr, and I'm not saying that AESP

1002
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,119
is going to be kill mccarr, but a lot of

1003
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:38,920
people when he came into the league said he was

1004
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,840
all offense. He couldn't hang it even strength. And certainly,

1005
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,920
if mccarr was a third pairing guy just running the

1006
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,559
top power play, he'd be getting a lot of points,

1007
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:50,719
but he wouldn't be as valuable as being their top defenseman,

1008
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,280
playing in all situations and logging massive minutes. And I

1009
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,400
think ASP is inching closer to that. He's inching closer

1010
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,039
to potentially earning those top minutes, and if he can

1011
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,840
get there, I think he's gonna be much closer to

1012
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:08,840
five to six Fantasy points in this format, and that

1013
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,199
is going to tilt the tide towards towards Simon in

1014
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,360
this case. So I think it really comes down to that.

1015
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,480
I could I could see that taking a while, though.

1016
00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:19,639
I don't think that he's gonna walk into the league

1017
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,679
and do that right away, but you know, I think

1018
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:25,519
it's gonna it's gonna be interesting to see. And as

1019
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:28,320
you said, they do have other options. I think even

1020
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,639
if they do plan on giving him the top power play,

1021
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:33,559
they're probably going to be a little judicious about it

1022
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:37,079
and just let Cider or Edmonson do that for a while.

1023
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:39,079
So we might be looking at two to three years

1024
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:41,599
from now, and so a lot can shift and change

1025
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:43,840
in that time. But I do really think he has

1026
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,199
that upside, and so I like that quite a lot.

1027
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: Two to three years, we could be looking at an

1028
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:52,960
NHL without Sidney Crosby, right, Like I said, this is

1029
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,440
the timeline that we're looking at to try and compete

1030
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,800
and win the Tidy League, you know, to go from

1031
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,360
starting this league with you back in the day in

1032
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:05,880
twenty twenty two to winning the league in twenty twenty five,

1033
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,920
twenty six. That kind of timeline would be great for US.

1034
00:53:09,159 --> 00:53:12,239
I do acknowledge that in the aggregate, Lindholm and asp

1035
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,400
for Foresling is a win for Simon. I will say

1036
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,719
that I think we gain value on the other side

1037
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,400
of the trade, which is Raquel versus Isserman. And the

1038
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:26,119
question is is Ierman going to be better than Raquel

1039
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:28,480
at any point in his career? And I think that's

1040
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:32,159
maybe at best. I think he's even with him in

1041
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:34,800
this case. We're trading production later for production now to

1042
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,159
try to win, and so we're thinking of it as

1043
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,199
upgrading Mercer to Raquel via Isserman, and so you can

1044
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:43,360
see kind of how we're thinking about this trade here.

1045
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,719
The question for me about Iiserman is, you know, how

1046
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,280
does he fit on this New York Islanders team? Right

1047
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,760
we don't really know where they're going to go as

1048
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,440
of right now. Lou seems to still be thinking that

1049
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,440
they're going to compete. I think that that's kind of folly.

1050
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,239
I don't think this is this is a competitive team.

1051
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,400
And so the question is where does Eiserman fit in

1052
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,840
the lineup? Is he like an Oliver Wallstrom type who

1053
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,280
they've moved on from now to They sent him off

1054
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,360
via waivers to Boston. You know, is he a Simon

1055
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,639
Holmstrom who you know has sparks of relevance but most

1056
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:18,559
of the time is giving you nothing every night? Or

1057
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:20,679
or does he end up on that top line? You know,

1058
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,519
does he end up with a Horvat or a Barzel

1059
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:26,119
and and does he you know, does he get past

1060
00:54:26,199 --> 00:54:30,639
his reputation of being kind of meh, relaxed defensively. Can

1061
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:33,880
he get up to that top six role? I don't

1062
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,760
think so. You know, on a very stacked world junior

1063
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,239
team this year, he was the thirteenth forward. You know,

1064
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,079
I wonder if he plays that kind of role in

1065
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:43,840
his NHL career. And so I think we make up

1066
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,960
the value that we lose on Asp in this Isserman trade.

1067
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,840
What do you think about Raquel versus Iiserman?

1068
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,679
Speaker 3: Well, I think overall, I love you know, this as

1069
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,159
a win win in general. And I have to I

1070
00:54:57,159 --> 00:54:59,239
have to shout out Simon just a little bit because

1071
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,920
I think this this really exemplifies to me how cool

1072
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,239
Dynasty is. Because last season, Simon and I sorry, I

1073
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,559
said Simon, Simon and I made a trade where I

1074
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,320
was kind of pushing my chips in he was kind

1075
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,840
of retooling for next year. I got arteriy Lekin and

1076
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,360
Evan Bouchard in that league, and I ended up winning

1077
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:22,400
and getting promoted, and he got Jamie Drysdale, Spencer Night,

1078
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,639
Matt Fey, Mitchikoff, and Valeria Nachushkin, which I think is

1079
00:55:26,679 --> 00:55:29,000
really helping him. Helped him this year, as he said,

1080
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:31,000
get after that really heart start, and then he ended

1081
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:35,559
up getting a team in Lord Stanley. We always do

1082
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,199
that in case people are wondering when a team becomes available.

1083
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,559
We look at who the most deserving manager is to

1084
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:43,800
get promoted, and it's based on your record and your

1085
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,480
time in the league and all those kinds of things.

1086
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:48,199
And so Simon had really put in the time and

1087
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:53,599
effort to be that way. So he used that trade

1088
00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:55,840
last year to really propel himself to the top, and

1089
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,000
then this year. I really like what he's doing too,

1090
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,440
because I think for you guys, it makes sense. I

1091
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,079
honestly did not really realize how good of a season

1092
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:05,599
for cart Raquel is having, and I think he's it

1093
00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:10,719
makes sense for you guys to do to upgrade to him.

1094
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:13,760
I do like that move for you guys. I'm less

1095
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,800
excited about the Gustav Foresling, although I agree that Hampus

1096
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,719
Lindholm to Gustav Foresling is an upgrade. I feel like

1097
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,000
those guys are a little bit static in their value

1098
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:27,320
and Raquel might be coming down soon. But I do

1099
00:56:27,519 --> 00:56:31,480
like the overall trajectory of that. I agree that you know,

1100
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:35,079
Linhelm is what he is. He's barely above replacement for

1101
00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:37,960
a lot of metrics. Dassin Mercer has frustrated a lot

1102
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,960
of us, and he continues to kind of be like

1103
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,000
adder around replacement level. One of the things we talked

1104
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:46,719
about is Ivon Fetotov, and I think it's worth kind

1105
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,599
of digging into him a little bit because that is

1106
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:52,000
one thing, aside from Eiserman, which we'll get to, that

1107
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:55,400
really could shift this deal. Because I know that you're

1108
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,760
kind of fed up with Fedatav. I don't think he's

1109
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,360
going to go anywhere, but and frankly, I think a

1110
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,639
lot of Philly fans are feeling that way right now too.

1111
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:07,760
But you know the reality is that they are paying

1112
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,480
him a fair amount of money. They did commit to him,

1113
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:12,880
they did kind of want him to be their guy,

1114
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,079
and it hasn't quite worked out, but I will say

1115
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:19,320
if you look at some of the underlying numbers, he

1116
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,039
has been the best goalie in my opinion, in Philly

1117
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:25,079
by some of the underlying metrics. He has the best

1118
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,760
goals save above expected, which is negative two point five

1119
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,199
not great. This is at even strength, But Kolosoff is

1120
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,480
negative seven point three four and Sam Erson, who just

1121
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:38,199
got named to Team Sweden to replace Mark Strum, is

1122
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,280
negative fourteen point sixty four, the worst by far. And

1123
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,119
of course he's had a larger and more difficult workload,

1124
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:47,440
so you can't necessarily pile that all on him. But

1125
00:57:48,159 --> 00:57:50,239
the other thing to look at is that Evan Fedotov

1126
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:56,800
has outperformed his even strength expected goal sorry expected save percentage,

1127
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,239
So he's getting really poor protection and he's out producing

1128
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:03,800
that a little bit, but it still leads to more

1129
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,360
goals than the team would like. All that to say,

1130
00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:10,559
I don't think that it's over for Feedatav. I think

1131
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:15,039
everyone is disappointed in the situation, and as Simo mentioned,

1132
00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:17,639
maybe you know this is an air weakness of him

1133
00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:20,440
and maybe that can turn around. So I like that.

1134
00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:25,320
I like that calculated risk in terms of I think

1135
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,079
the biggest thing it comes down to, though, as we

1136
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:31,079
discuss what is Cole Eiserman. If he is, you know,

1137
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:34,840
a forty goal scorer who you know can put up

1138
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,000
a ton of points and really pump up his value,

1139
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:41,440
then then maybe a few years from now this looks

1140
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,719
worse for you. I think it's gonna take a while.

1141
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,679
I really, I really do like what I saw from Eisman.

1142
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,199
I mean what he did at the World Juniors, accepting

1143
00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:53,599
that role as the thirteenth forward and really improving his

1144
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:56,079
off putt game. I think says a lot about him.

1145
00:58:56,119 --> 00:58:58,719
He really has worked on that. He knows it's a

1146
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,159
it's an issue for him, and I think if all

1147
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:06,000
those things become NHL average, his goal scoring is such

1148
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:09,840
a special skill that it is going to absolutely break

1149
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,679
through for him. I mean, in many ways, it kind

1150
00:59:11,679 --> 00:59:15,280
of reminds me of of Patrick Lyoney. Line is really

1151
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,599
weak in a lot of other areas of the game,

1152
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:19,360
but you can't deny that you can just put him

1153
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,519
over on that flank and he can just pump goals

1154
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:24,440
into the net. Of course, he's a bigger player and

1155
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:27,440
he has some other attributes as well, but eitherman is

1156
00:59:27,519 --> 00:59:30,440
kind of similar and I think that he could get there.

1157
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:33,559
I think I'm seeing a little bit more promise that

1158
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:35,960
he can get there, but we'll have to wait and see.

1159
00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:38,480
Even if he does get there, I think it's going

1160
00:59:38,519 --> 00:59:40,679
to be two to three years, and so, like we

1161
00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:43,440
said about ASP, a lot can change. So I think

1162
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,639
Simon is really taking the long road here. But maybe

1163
00:59:46,679 --> 00:59:49,559
you know, in Lord Stanley, it's really hard because everyone's

1164
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:51,320
going for the same thing. I feel like you can't

1165
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,079
necessarily just look at next year. You have to sometimes

1166
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:56,039
plan these things out a couple of years in advance

1167
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:59,599
because everyone's looking at now even and even if not now,

1168
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:02,840
next year. But you know, three teams get relegated every

1169
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,880
year from Lord Stanley, and I'm trying not to be

1170
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,480
one of them. I think I'm going to be safe.

1171
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:08,800
I'm pretty much like in the fat middle right now,

1172
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:11,239
and I know that to push your chips in and

1173
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,199
get to the top, you really have to be ruthless.

1174
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:16,599
And so I saw this as, yeah, you guys are

1175
01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:18,840
moving on for some players who aren't really going to

1176
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help you now or anytime in the next year two

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most likely, and you get some players that you know

1178
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,039
are a bit a bit more helpful right now. So

1179
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another example of a win win A couple of the

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especially with Fetotov and Eiserman, might shift things a bit

1181
01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:37,239
more towards Timo, depending on how things go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to give people the standings of the

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Lord Stanley or the context in which we're making this deal.

1184
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You know, we've been pretty consistently in the top four

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01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:50,679
or five teams all year, and it's very competitive at

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the top. We've got the NHL Rankking Mason, We've got

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the former tidy champion, current reigning tidy champion, I should say,

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01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,000
Jack Ze. You know, We've we've got some tough competition

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at the top, and we have been missing the defenseman

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01:01:03,079 --> 01:01:05,679
and the winger in this part of our lineup. You know,

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01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:08,119
we drafted Dawson Mercer thinking he would be a lot

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01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:10,679
better than he is. He's just kind of what he

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01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,599
is at this point. We've never really had you know,

1194
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:16,559
defense has always been an area of weakness for our lineup,

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01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:19,840
and so foresling something consistent there was good. I want

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to touch on Fetatov, Like you mentioned, I'm a little

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01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:25,519
fed up with owning this player. How many times in

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01:01:25,559 --> 01:01:28,159
a year, Victor do you hear a head coach like

1199
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,599
John Torderella is saying, okay, here is our here's our

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,320
hierarchy of goaltending. And so he put earlier this season,

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01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,119
around November December, he said, Ivan Fedotov, he's our third

1202
01:01:39,159 --> 01:01:43,400
goaltender this year. We're going with Kolosov and Yerson. And

1203
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,920
then of course Erson got hurt, and so Feedotov got

1204
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,280
a bit more of an opportunity, and then Kolosov really

1205
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,679
kind of the wheels fell off with him. And then

1206
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,159
you know, a couple months later, Torderello comes out and says,

1207
01:01:53,559 --> 01:01:56,800
just kidding, Fetotov is now our second goaltender. You know,

1208
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,360
it's just wild over there in Philadelphia, and I am

1209
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,840
getting off ride and I will throw ed under the

1210
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,400
bus a little bit. Here. He helped us acquire Fetotov

1211
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:10,000
by downgrading our first round pick this year from Levshunov,

1212
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,280
who would have been our pick at that time, to

1213
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:15,960
Cole Isserman, and so functionally we traded our first round

1214
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,159
pick from last year and our fifth f US prospect

1215
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:21,760
pick from the startup draft for Foresling and Raquel. So

1216
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,199
I don't mind it too much. Mercer and Lindholm weren't

1217
01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:28,239
helping us win and it may seem a little myopic,

1218
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,159
but we want to win now while we still have

1219
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:33,760
cross and B. I do recognize that if you know,

1220
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:38,480
if Iserman and ASP are lion A and Lane Hudson,

1221
01:02:38,679 --> 01:02:41,079
then yeah, we lose this deal for sure, you know,

1222
01:02:41,159 --> 01:02:43,519
and Simon will have gotten a really good, you know,

1223
01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:46,239
chunk of flesh out of us for this deal. But

1224
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:48,079
you know, if they end up more like you know,

1225
01:02:48,679 --> 01:02:52,000
throwing out names like Bowen byrom for ASP, who's you know,

1226
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:56,239
kind of behind Doleen in power, And if if Izerman

1227
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,880
ends up more like I said, like Simon Holmstrom, then

1228
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,280
we don't mind this deal at all.

1229
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,559
Speaker 3: Definitely, No, it makes a lot of sense. And yeah,

1230
01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:09,360
I think that it's it's easy to look back and

1231
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,639
if things go a certain way, to criticize this deal.

1232
01:03:11,679 --> 01:03:14,960
But I think I like the upgrade now. And I

1233
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,880
think that if you guys are in contention, you gotta

1234
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,719
you gotta be ruthless to to push your push your

1235
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,320
way up the table, and so sometimes you can't always

1236
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,000
take the time to think two or three years. So

1237
01:03:26,519 --> 01:03:28,599
I think it's a good it's a good deal and

1238
01:03:28,679 --> 01:03:30,000
it makes sense for both sides.

1239
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: Few Well, that's a relief, Victor, I'm happy to come

1240
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,119
out of this podcast with a little bit of confidence

1241
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:40,119
in the in the move that we made. And that's

1242
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:42,639
the end of the trades that we've talked about here today.

1243
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,159
We did have a couple more interesting World Juniors players

1244
01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:48,400
traded in our league. I'll just mention one that jumped

1245
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,119
out to me today. We won't go into it, but

1246
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:52,960
but we did have We did have a trade that

1247
01:03:53,079 --> 01:03:56,320
is being voted overwhelmingly in the favor of one of

1248
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,480
the teams here in Tidy Yager that was just posted today. Recently,

1249
01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:04,440
we have Titanium Cranium acquiring Matthew Patris, Easton Cowen, and

1250
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:09,039
Jacob Peltier for Trek Peiskak and the Maxium Masse, which

1251
01:04:09,079 --> 01:04:11,719
seems like a clear win for Titanium Cranium. We would

1252
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,320
have included this one, but I like to have the opportunity, Victor,

1253
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,199
to ask the managers what they think, and this happened

1254
01:04:17,239 --> 01:04:19,719
so recently I didn't think we'd get an answer back

1255
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:21,960
in time for the podcast. But for me, you know,

1256
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:25,800
acquiring Easton, Cowen, Patras, and Peltier for Pariscak and a

1257
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,639
guy seems like a pretty good deal for titanium, cranium,

1258
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,039
and lots of other deals didn't make the cut, but

1259
01:04:32,239 --> 01:04:34,079
you know, we'll be back at the end of the month, Victor,

1260
01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:36,199
why don't you tease a little bit of you know,

1261
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,599
we'll be talking at the end of the month for

1262
01:04:38,639 --> 01:04:41,360
another episode of Tidy Takes, and why don't you take

1263
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,880
us out of here. It's been great to be back

1264
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,760
with you, even though we're both kind of playing hurt

1265
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,920
here today. And I'm thanking the listeners for their indulgence.

1266
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate all your work on this, Ryan, and yeah,

1267
01:04:52,239 --> 01:04:53,840
we got some good stuff coming up. We got on

1268
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,559
a Scouts tout coming up, and then I'm going to

1269
01:04:56,639 --> 01:04:59,039
be doing an episode with a commission who does a

1270
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:01,760
lot of different leagues, talking about setting up and running leagues.

1271
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,280
Then we're then I'm gonna be out for a couple

1272
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,760
of weeks. I'm actually moving and there's a lot of

1273
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,119
personal stuff going on, So Jesse is gonna take over

1274
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,519
and do an episode, and then we're gonna be back

1275
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,199
after the trade deadline talking tidy Takes and giving a

1276
01:05:16,199 --> 01:05:18,599
big update about what's going on. So definitely want to

1277
01:05:18,679 --> 01:05:21,599
keep keep your ear peeled for that. And we got

1278
01:05:21,679 --> 01:05:23,360
a bunch of and then after that we're you know,

1279
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,719
we're coming up on team preview season. I mean, there's

1280
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:28,519
not too much of the season coming up after that,

1281
01:05:28,679 --> 01:05:31,840
so a lot of great stuff coming up on Fantasy.

1282
01:05:31,519 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 4: HOCAM never gonna hear me complain about some good old

1283
01:05:44,519 --> 01:05:47,159
Tidy takes. I don't have a whole lot of great

1284
01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:49,239
trades going on in the Tidy I'm right at that

1285
01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:52,039
part of me wants to sell, but another part of

1286
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:55,760
me is in the playoffs, so we're darn close to it,

1287
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,199
so it's not the right time to be trying to

1288
01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:01,000
pull that stunt. Our show is brought to you by

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1290
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,719
can experiment there's a possibility if we've got a couple

1291
01:06:07,719 --> 01:06:10,440
of owners who are quiet at this time of year,

1292
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,679
you might be able to pop in as a substitute

1293
01:06:12,719 --> 01:06:15,480
in one of the Tidy leagues. And it's a good

1294
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1295
01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:21,400
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1296
01:06:21,719 --> 01:06:25,519
including custom scoring. We use Fenwick as a category to

1297
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,440
try to drive a little bit of advanced stats. You

1298
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,880
can start up leagues the day after the last season

1299
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:34,440
and so we'll be firing up new leagues. Come really

1300
01:06:34,519 --> 01:06:37,400
come April, we'll get those fired and even before the

1301
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,960
Stanley Cup playoffs, you can start and roll over so

1302
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,559
you can keep the trades going all year round.

1303
01:06:42,159 --> 01:06:42,639
Speaker 2: Fan tracks.

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1307
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,239
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01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,480
One of the commissions for the time leagues, Craftzer, Simon

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and Tim are also doing great work keeping those things rolling.

1310
01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:08,960
It's a lot of work. Our lead scouts are Jeremy

1311
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:12,360
V and Tony. Scouting reports are always on the way here.

1312
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,840
I think we have some coming up fairly soon. Brandon

1313
01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:18,360
is a website guru. He's a scout. He helps with

1314
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,280
prospect ranks and visualizations, including the Fantasy Hockey Life player cards,

1315
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,239
the famous ones, and all sorts of different tableau reports

1316
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,800
that blow my mind. There's always an opportunity to keep

1317
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,000
making this show, this site, this community better. And if

1318
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:35,400
you are like, hey, I got an idea something you

1319
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,280
guys could be doing, and you want to help participate

1320
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,400
in it, Victor would love to hear from you. Hit

1321
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,159
him up in the discord, email, Twitter, or Blue Sky,

1322
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,639
Daber Hockey, Dauber Prospects. Victor is an editor over there.

1323
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,559
Peter Harling is his co host on the other podcast,

1324
01:07:52,639 --> 01:07:56,599
Dauber Prospects Report, and there's all kinds of good stuff

1325
01:07:56,599 --> 01:07:58,920
coming out on Daber Prospects's. Actually it's getting to be

1326
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,880
almost as big as Ubber High Hockey, and we love

1327
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,000
being associated. I do some work with them every once

1328
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,679
in a while too. It's a great place to read

1329
01:08:06,679 --> 01:08:11,239
about prospects much more extensively. Check out Victor's articles at

1330
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,760
Elite Prospects. He's part of the fantasy team there with

1331
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,279
Cam Robinson and Mike Clifford, doing a lot of prospects stuff.

1332
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,880
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1333
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,439
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1334
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,000
I tune into this week I believe is going to

1335
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,520
be a little bit of baseball content. You get those

1336
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,720
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1337
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,319
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1345
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and everybody keep plugging away through this late part of

1346
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:06,560
the season. For us, it's almost the playoffs. For you,

1347
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,039
it might be a ways away and you made a

1348
01:09:08,119 --> 01:09:11,720
terrible mistake, but regardless of what your schedule looks like,

1349
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keep living that fantasy hockey life.