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It's called the Tidy the Tiered Dynasty, and this episode
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Speaker 3: Right after this, welcome back everyone, and we are excited
to bring you another edition of Tidy Takes. And to
do that, of course, we're going to bring in our
Admiral Ryan.
Speaker 2: How you doing, my friend, Victor, I wish I could
say I was doing a little bit better. You know,
just right off the top here, both of us are
battling a bit of a cold here. You know, those
of us who are following you on the discord know
that you are probably one of the most busy people
in the world right now with work obligations and different responsibilities.
I'm in the midst of opening a new opera at
the Canadian Opera Company where I work, So, you know,
bad timing for an illness like this, but hey, we're
going to battle through it today because we are committed
podcasters who are going to provide you with all of
the great insight on players from the World Juniors who
were traded in our Tidy league. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm excited, and yes, thank you for that acknowledging that
we are playing a little hurt with our vocal cords.
But we're here regardless, and I'm excited to talk about
these players. And you've collated our team. Tidy Team has
collated some really interesting trades and we'll touch on them.
Most of them relate to the World Juniors. It's obviously
some other players involved as well, so let's get after it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have to credit our tidy Ko commission, Tim Ay.
Tim has been great in posting all these trades. I
occasionally step in and post a few too, but Tim
has been really on top of it. We made a
promise to our listenership and to the Tidy managers that
we would stay on top of any trades in the
league because you know, our trade deadline is coming up
on February twenty third. We want to make sure that
everyone has all the information that they need the most
successible format on our Tidy Trades channel to make sure
that they know what the values of these players are
right now. And yeah, yeah, the focus for this episode
was to look at World Junior players, players who played
in the most recent World Junior tournament. You know, this
is usually the time when a lot of those players
get traded because there are perceived value changes after the tournament.
You know, there's a debate as to whether the value
actually does change or whether people just become aware of
some of these players like the Dallabor divorce kis and
the Anton Wohlbergs of the world, and certainly those become
interesting trade chips for the Tidy teams that are looking
to push in and win a championship. And so I
collated a bunch of different trades that involve some of
those players, and we've had a lot of them, right.
It was kind of a trickle. When I started prepping
this about three weeks ago, we only had one or two.
But since then, a lot of our managers have stepped
up and a lot of those players have moved, So
we're going to dive right into it here with a
trade from Tidy or. This is a trade involving mister
Puddles and Glocta. Mister Puddles acquire Robert Thomas and Ryan O'Reilly,
two pro centers in the NHL from glockber Dlabor Divorski,
a player for the Czech team in the World Junior Championship,
as well as left wing Andrew Basha and current NHL
rookie center with the Detroit Red Wings Marco Casper. Our
Tidy listenership voted this one hundred percent in favor of
mister Puddle's acquiring those two NHL pros, and just to
context julyze the deal here. Both O'Reilly and Thomas are
floating around four and a half Fantasy points per game
in the Tidy League, with obviously Devorski and Basha not
having made their NHL debuts, in Casper hanging around at
a replacement level, although he has been really hot lately,
and we'll get into that certainly. When I asked the
managers for some feedback, I didn't get anything back from Glocta.
But here's what mister Puddles had to say. He said
that he is a Blues fan, so it was hard
to let Divorski go. That he's excited for him and
Snuggerwood to eventually replace schn and Sad in the lineup
one day, hopefully soon. Sad, as we all know, has
actually recently just agreed to a mutual contract termination with
the Blues, so he might end up somewhere else and
maybe we see his replacement in the lineup sooner rather
than later. Mister Puddles continues to say that he is
pushing the Chips in this year, and that Divorski wasn't
going to help him in a minor spot as anything
other than a trader chip and that his Great World
juniors worked in his favor, probably increasing his value. So
with the win, now Blinders firmly strapped on, Puddles got
two guys in the four and a half to five
and a half points per game ranging exchange for two
players that would get him zero points per game this
year and Casper's three points per game at the time
of the deal, And most importantly, he still got to
soothe his Blues fans soul by acquiring Thomas Victor. It
may not be a surprise to you, but for reasons
we will get to you later. But I'm a big
fan of any manager pushing the chips in and trying
to win right now, and so along with the other
managers and the Tidy, I voted for the Puddles side
as a result. How about you, We're gonna be talking
a lot today about upgrading players using multiple assets today
and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this one.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I don't know if you were trying to
troll anyone, but Dvorski is definitely Slovak, not check. So
in case you want to amend.
Speaker 2: That, yep, I definitely wasn't trying to troll anyone. This
is just cold medication, Victor.
Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah, I hopped up on cold medicine.
That's that's always a good one. So, you know, I
think for me, it's hard not to see this as
a win win. I like mister Puddles getting two players
above replacement level and the Tidy that's about three point
five points per game, and so he's got two players
that are you know, four point five five, four point
eighty five. That's pretty nice, I think, O'Reilly, is you know,
potentially close to a decline. He's been a little bit
up and down with Nashville as they haven't been as
great as we would have thought at times. But he's
still a really solid player. And then Thomas, you know,
he should be really good for a while. He's only
twenty five and he's got you know, he's kind of
the middle of his prime, and he seems to be
at least at his peak or reaching his peak, which
is really nice. None of that matters, really if he
gets promoted this year. None of the other distance in
the future, who's going to produce after this really matters.
But I kind of like to know that if you
push your chips in, you're not totally screwed if you
don't win this one year. It's nice if your window
extends by a year or two. I've done this with
a couple of moves, you know. A few years ago,
I pushed my chips in one league and acquired Sidney Crosby,
knowing that he was a bit older, but figured I
had a few more years of him, and that's been
the case, been able to enjoy a little bit longer production.
So I like that for Glocta, he gets three lottery tickets.
Casper is already producing above replacement level or you know,
roughly around there, which is really kind of nice, and
the flex up and down is nice. Frankly, I've been
surprised seeing Casper play right wing on that top line.
I kind of figured he'd be more of that third
line center and I think he probably ends up there.
But it's nice to know that he can play at
top of the lineup, and you know, certainly that increases
the value if he can stay in that spot, and
maybe he will, so I think this is I think
whether this is a win win or just a win
for mister Puddles comes down to how bashan divorce KI
work out. I think they're both really nice prospects. I'm
not sure that they will be higher than Robert Thomas.
I kind of doubt it. From a points per game category,
probably somewhere between Casper and O'Reilly is what I would
expect for those two. So if you lose two guys
around four point five points per game and get three back,
that are you know, kind of roughly in that range.
I think by total points, that's a win. But I
like the consolidation towards fewer roster spots, and I think
if he got two players that were both the same
age as o'reiley, I would like it a lot less.
But the fact that he got Thomas, who's much much younger,
I do lean mister Puddles on this one.
Speaker 2: What about you, Ryan, Yeah, that acquisition of Thomas is
the key here. It's a move that makes sense now
and in the future. There are NHL players who believe
that Robert Thomas is one of those next players who's
going to have that big breakout season. I can't say
that I disagree with them. He is so talented and
skilled on the ice. I think the best is yet
to come for him, and I would love to own
him for his age twenty five to twenty nine years.
Of course, mister Puddles is hoping he isn't holding Thomas
for that long, unless he also picks him up in
Lord Stanley when he eventually gets there. I agree with
you that if it was two players at the Ryan O'Reilly,
you know age and you know point level, that they
would be a little bit disappointing, especially because, as you said,
Marco Casper is now playing on the top line and
top power play on the flank with the Detroit Red Wings,
and I was just as surprised as you to see
that Victor. But then I was thinking about it a
little bit more, and I realized that, you know, although
I had originally thought that Marco Casper would probably fill
one of those JT. Coomper or Andrew Kopp roles in
the Detroit Red Wings lineup, that they also have Nate
Danielson and Michael Bransig Neuwguard who can also play those roles.
And you can't have three three c's unless you're the
Seattle Kraken, So certainly I think one of them probably
has to play somewhere else, and Marco Casper is carving
out a nice little role for himself in Detroit with
Raymond and Larkin. Looking at the other pieces here, Devorski
is a major piece obviously of this trade and puddles
as trading Blues future for Blues present. Either way, I
think Thomas will still be the straw that stirs the
drink on that team for the next couple of years,
even when that Slavic mafia rolls in and takes over,
with players like Stanchel and Urchek coming in. With Divorski,
I totally understand using Basha, Casper, and Divorski to upgrade
and get the one C on your favorite team here,
and although Casper is making it difficult recently, this deal
is a win for the Thomas side. Moving on to
our next trade here, which is an interesting one here
in the Lidstrom Division. Colalby, who is a team that
has been near the top of our omnifast track challenge
here to move up from Lidstrom into Lord Stanley, potentially
has acquired another great NHL pro in Nazam Kadri's center
for the Calgary Flames, in exchange for Alex Lafarrier of
the Los Angeles Kings and Edward Shall of the Coachella
Valley Firebirds from Marcus. This was deemed a pretty even
trade by our tidy listenership. Kadri and Lafarier are both
grading at very similarly have five Fantasy points per game,
but Cadri does have the pedigree and experience in the league.
Speaking with the managers here didn't get anything back from Colalby,
who I think is just too busy dominating the league
to talk to a plub like me. But Marcus did
have this to share that The original offer proposed to
Marcus was Cadre for Lafarier straight up, which makes sense
when you look at their fantasy points for game. Being
pretty even, Marcus was actively shopping Cadri due to his
surplus of center and being nearly in last place, felt
that getting younger was key. He didn't think that the
initial trade off was that far off from what he
was looking for, but he tries not to trade one
for one when he's losing the best player like Kadri.
He knew that Shala was a middle first round pick
from a couple of years ago with some pedigree, checked
his production and saw that there was some significant growth
this season when he was playing with Coachella, and thought
it could be a by low opportunity here or use
him in the future to package for a better asset.
So he just asked for Shalla as a throw in.
Shala who played, Now, Victor, you can correct me if
I'm wrong here. Shalla did play for check yah right, yep, okay,
so I got that one right, great, Thank you, Tylan
all cold and flu That communication took all of three minutes,
and then Shalla was thrown into the deal to make
it happen. The World Unions then happened, and he was
much more excited by the trade owning Shala after his
dominant tournament. He will still potentially look to package Shalla
to buy upwards, So all of you Tidy Lister managers
take note that Marcus is open for business on Shala.
The last thing that Marcus had to say here is
that one of the benefits of the Tidy League is
that Klalby was in the running for Omni Track at
the time, so there might have been more incentive to
get a guy like Cadri at that particular moment. To me,
this is fair enough for Cadri. Two young players with
offensive upside who could land anywhere in the lineup. Two
Lotto tickets for a pretty reliable to see on your
pro roster makes sense for Klalby, who at the moment
is third in the Omni Track race and needs a
more reliable NHL proe than the Farrier who is streaky
at best, especially on the Los Angeles Kings right now
who are having trouble scoring Victor. I'm not going to
try to evaluate Shalla because I know you've seen a
lot of this player, So how well do you think
Marcus did in this trade pulling Shalla as a throw in, well, I.
Speaker 3: Think getting more than just lea ferrier is really a
good idea for sure. I think many have listened to
this pod know that I've been skeptical of Edward Shalle.
He has shown in the past that he is kind
of disinterested at times at both ends of the ice
away from the puck. That's been a real problem for him.
But I have to say there was a big difference
this year, I think, not just at the World Juniors,
but at Coachella Valley. I mean, we saw some of
the amazing work that he did willing his team, you know,
to to far in the tournament, really coming up clutch
in several really important games for Chechia. That was really
important to see. And I think it says a lot
that the country made him their captain, you know. I
think that if he was really struggling with some of
those away from the puck things as much as he
had in the past, he might not have worn that letter.
And so I think that was a big factor. And
the fact that he's been producing at Coachella Valley currently
as we're recording this, fifteen points and thirty games is
nothing to sneeze at. He's done really well in the AHL.
It's not a difficult it's not an easy league to play,
and he's still only nineteen for a couple more months,
and so you know, teenagers playing in the OHL is
a really I mean, in the ANHL, sorry, is a really,
really difficult thing to do. And so I am shifting
my opinion on Challe and I think it's great that
Marcus got him when he could, because I think there
was not as much of an opinion shift when that happened,
and so sometimes you know, that's kind of a good thing.
And maybe still it's a it's a time to move
on again and strike while the iron's hot, or maybe
you see what he ends up with. We talked about
him a little bit with Mitch on the on a
previous pot about how he seems more likely to be
in NHL or Edward Charlie now and so, but I
still don't know that he's like a top of the
lineup kind of guy. Probably more of a middle to
bottom six guy, some depth scoring, but still a lot
more interesting and exciting than he could have been. I
think overall, this seems like a win win and Calalabi
gets the better win now piece in Kaudrey, who's doing
really well on a surprisingly good Calgary team. I think
a lot of people thought that they would really struggle.
I really love what Calgary is doing. They're allowing some
of their younger guys to play and actually contribute, and
it's going pretty well for them. You know, they got
the Zari, they got Coronado playing, they got you know,
Dustin Wolf is a Calder candidate, so it's really fun
to see and Cadri is kind of leading the pack there,
so I really like to see that. I just traded
for Kadri in a cap dynasty, so I'm really hoping
this that he does really well. That's a little bit
of a different situation because his contract's a little high
maybe for what his production is. But I had the
space and I wanted to and centerves like that are
hard to acquire. What's really interesting to me in this
deal and is probably not true in other leagues, but
in the tidy le Ferrier and Kadri are actually pretty
close in terms of points, Kadri at five point one
eight Ferrier and five point oh one, And I think
when I kind of put in some numbers here because
I was really interested to see why that was the case,
because I think in other leagues it's probably a bit disparate,
and Kadri is is quite a bit more valuable, and
sometimes that plays into it here when people are just
looking at name value. I think by name value alone
you would assume Kadri is much much better, but not
really the case here. The things that are interesting to
me is that because Tidy rewards play driving, Lafarrier has
fewer giveaways or potentially more takeaways. I'm not exactly sure
it doesn't split that out. Lafarrier has more hits and
and his Fenwick is much better, so that is interesting.
The rest of the stats really favorite Kaudre, the time
on ice, the total points and shots power play points,
although negative are minor penalties, and Cadre has more of those,
so it's interesting that these guys are a little bit
closer and why I kind of like the settings for
Tidy because it really rewards players like a Farrier that
are just really good play drivers and slightly punishes guys
like Cadre who have a few more takeaway giveaways a
little bit worse fenwick and take a few more penalties,
so it kind of levels the playing field a little bit.
What do you think about all that Ryan.
Speaker 2: Nazom Kadre and taking penalties. As a Leafs fan, I
wouldn't know anything about that, So yeah, I think the
question for me here is how good will Shalla be? Really?
You know, when I saw this trade for the first time,
that's kind of the question that was bouncing around in
my head there. I think we could see Laferrier as
a middle six swinger for his entire career, especially you know,
being somewhat limited on the La Kings with you know,
less offensive production throughout that lineup, and if Shalla ends
up in the middle six two then I think I
would have liked to have gotten more for Cadre. But
like you said, it's a win win at the end
of the day, both managers get something for where the
teams are right now. So well done. I think it's
as simple as that. So next Victor, this is going
to be interesting. We've been talking about this one all week,
you and I as we try to figure out how
to approach discussing this. It's a collection of very interesting
trades that we're going to talk about altogether because it
actually might make more sense to see the full picture
here before we render judgment, and to just give some
context for the listener here. You know, the Tidy we
are not immune to managers needing to step away, needing
to back out of the league for various reasons, or
you know, managers not setting their lineups. It certainly happens
more rarely than in other leagues because you do have
to be a patron of Fantasy Hockey life to be
a part of the Tidy League, and so people usually
have some financial investment and sticking around in the league.
But we do have to replace managers from time to time,
and we do have a friend of ours, Anthony also
known as Pish, who has come off the bench to
take over a team that was captained by someone we
mentioned earlier, mister Puddles, who has moved up to take
over another team in a higher tier as he was
doing so well in Lidstrom and so Puddles was contending
for the Omni Track on this team as well in
the Lidstrom Division, which is our entry level division. Pish,
as of right now, is top of the table in
the Omni Track race, a mere nineteen points ahead of
veteran tidy manager miss Sticks and Pish is a rich man,
indeed rich in FAB. That's free agent budget following these
deals made over the course of five hours. So these
are the first two deals that kind of click clue
us into what was going on here. We have Pish's
Puddles sending away Trevor Connolly, who played for the US
World Junior team this year and goaltending prospect Evan Gardner
for one hundred dollars in FAB. And then we also
had in the same kind of time period, we had
Pish sending away Connor Clifton defenceman prospect to center, Chas
Lucius prospect defenseman for the Calgary Flames, Hunter Brustevitch, and
Braden Yaeger, who is the team Canada captain this year
for the World Juniors for Kyle Palmieri and thirty dollars
in FAB. Those were the first two trades, Victor that
tipped me off to something going on here. So if
we have the running total here, Pish has acquired one
hundred and thirty dollars in free agent budget for Trevor Connolly,
Braden Jaeger and some spare parts, and then some other
trades started to roll in involving Pish and FAB. Pish
had acquired sixty dollars in FAB for Emil Andre from EDM.
Moiler thirteen and had eventually acquired twenty dollars in FAB
and Michel Grandland from the Aschin Great Fantasy Team name
here for Maverick Bork and so lots of different moving
pieces here. I'm just going to summarize it here before
I share a little bit of what the managers had
to say about the full tallly of these trades. Are
Pish sending out Trevor Connolly, Braden Yaeger, recent World Junior
Championship players for the US and Canada, NHL pro Connor
Clifton and prospects Evan Gardner, Chas Lucius Hunter Brustevitch and
Emil Andre in exchange for pros Kyle Palmiery, Michael Grantland
and one hundred and fifty dollars in FAB. So do
we all have our abacuses out? Are we all doing
our math? Here? Here's what Pish had to say in
terms of the trades Jaeger and Connolly deal's I pretty
clearly lost both of those trades. I'm all in this
year and shopped all the players in the deals quite
a bit, with limited interest from the rest of the league.
My goal the rest of the way out is to
get us close to seventy five skater games and fourteen
goalie games each week. Seventy five being, of course, our
skater game min max limit for any given matchup. I
don't want any skater on the minor league roster, Pitch said,
who isn't playing in the NHL right now? For the
goalies and the miners, everyone is either playing now or
I could see an injury getting time as the backup.
I might have been able to get more waiting for
those players at the deadline, but I'm in the running
for first or second in the omni track, which comes
with or sorry, first or second in the division, which
comes with a very valuable buy. Paul Meary was the
best upgrade that he could find for Clifton. The other
managers had something to say as well. In this deal,
you know a bit of an interesting discussion I would
imagine when it comes into the fab question. So here's
what Cam the Newfoundland Growlers GM had to say. My
rational about this t was that I'm in last place
with no shot at making playoffs, so I don't need
FAB to contend, so I felt it was better to
use it to obtain assets. That Gardner was a goalie
that he liked, that he gave up in a previous
trade and was happy to get him back, and that
Connolly was a first round pick in this past draft
who seems to have a lot of fantasy upside when
he joins the league. He felt like he could either
keep him and fit him in whenever he joins the league,
or packaging with other pieces to obtain another prospect or
a young player that he likes more. Cows, who was
the general manager who moved on from Palmiery, says that
he really liked Palmiery but realized he needed to go
younger and adding three good prospects was worth it, and
that the FAB was to help the trade work. That
he likes the trade and he's happy with how it
worked out. People talk about money in and money out
when it comes to NHL trades, Victor, but I'm not
sure this is what they had in mind. What do
you make of vicious strategy here, Victor, to acquire all
of the FAB in the league.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't really understand the strategy of needing much fab.
Quite frankly, I think that, you know, every league is
a little bit different, and there are certainly leagues where
FAB is really really important. Maybe I'm missing something here,
It's quite possible, but I don't remember needing to throw
down a bunch of fab in tidy to get a player.
I can think of certain situations, maybe in the playoffs,
where someone drops, and certainly if you have a first
round by and maybe someone drops a decent player during
the playoff who's competing during that first round by, I
could see that. I don't remember that happening to the
significant point where you would need excessive amounts of FAB.
I can also think of the recent signing of Tony DiAngelo.
I know in many leagues that was someone who people
were really excited to add because it was a new
player who hadn't been available previously. I could see a
situation where you might want to blow your fab on
a player like that, But I also really don't think
that he's any kind of league winner. You know, he's
someone who might might be a little bit above replacement,
But if you have a strong team, I'm not sure
that you're really jones in to throw down all your
money on a player like that. So I'm just really
not sure. I don't know that I understand that strategy.
I would love to hear's thoughts if there's and what
he uses that for. Maybe there's going to be some
amazing strategy that we haven't thought about and we're gonna
all look silly, So I would love to hear about that.
I feel like a better strategy might be to get
anyone who's playing now as opposed to in the minors.
But as Pitch said, not much interest, so maybe there
just wasn't a deal to be made. It's always easy
to say you should have done this deal, you should
have done that deal, but maybe that wasn't available, and
so you just do what you can. I think if
it were me, I would have just kept Andre. I
don't know that I would have wanted or needed that fab.
I think that it's quite possible that one of the
Philly defenseman gets injured or something happens, and Emma and
Andre comes back up and starts playing again, and then
you have a relevant roster player for nothing that you
could have just kept. So that's what I would have
done in the end. I think pishk got too competent
NHLers and for guys he wasn't gonna use anyways. Most
likely maybe Andre, but possibly not. I love the yolo mentality.
You only live once. You throw all your pusher chips
in and you try to win, and if it doesn't work,
then you regroup and try to do it again, hopefully
with enough assets. I think in this context, he's in
a really good position where I think it's super unlikely
that he doesn't finish with some sort of promotion ticket.
I think it's possible, but it's unlikely. So if you're
feeling pretty good about your promotion chances, and I think
it's easier to throw caution to the wind, maybe we
could argue that he could have gotten more, but we
weren't in that situation. We weren't in those negotiations, so
it's kind of hard to say. But that's kind of
where I'm ending up on this. Ryan. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that Victor. There's no real downside here
for pish. I think I'm just going to contextualize this
a little bit for the listener. But the lidstream division
is the bottom division. You know, we have someone in
the discord earlier today asking you know what happens if
I finish in last place in Lidstrom? You know, do
I get to keep my team? And I just said,
you know, you can't go much lower than the basement,
So I think I think you're okay with that. So
you don't need to worry about relegation, mister last place
team in the Tidy Lidstrom. And so there is no
real downside for Pish here. You know, worst case scenarios,
he doesn't get his promotion and you know, maybe the
depth of the team is not great and he can
rebuild in the draft, or you know, maybe he just
moves on and this team enters the you know, the
dispersal draft for a future team. Who knows. But so, yeah,
there's no real downside here. And just to further contextualize
our use of FAB in the Tidy League, you know,
I'm looking at a at a pickup here that Pish
made earlier in January where he spent forty three FAB
dollars on Jonas Johansson, backup goalie for the Tampa Bay Lightning.
I remember the year that Ed and I won the
inaugural or division of Tidy A couple of years ago
we picked up Yonas Johansson as well for some FAB
spend and he really helped us, you know with those
goalie cats which are particularly hard to get in the tidy.
So that kind of a use of FAB. I can
understand when you want to blow the competition out of
the water and make sure you get a Yonas Johansson
who could fill in for and Andrea Vassilevski if he's out
for a long time. But just the day to day
use of FAB in this league, you know, you're using
maybe one or two dollars at a time. You know,
earlier this morning, Ed and I picked up Alex Klorn
for two dollars in FAB, Andrew Peak for one dollar
in FAB. We're trying to bolster our chances in the
playoffs coming up, and so that's kind of how we
use FAB. And so with Pish having two hundred and
sixty dollars in FAB right now, I'm interested to see
how he's going to use it. For sure, when it
comes to the actual trades and the players, it's a
pretty bad return for Conley and Yeager, which Pish acknowledged.
Both may have the opportunity to play major roles on
their future NHL teams, or in Connolly's case, wherever Vegas
decides to trade him in two to three years. Andre
only going for sixty dollars in fab is also pretty
crazy to me. Without great he's been this season and
is limited time with the big club. We'll have to
check back in on this one, like you say, to
see how Pitch uses his windfall. We'd love to hear
from you a pish. If you're out there listening, feel
free to write in our Tidy chat. We'd love to
have a conversation more about this, just to figure out,
you know, what we can learn from a strategy standpoint here, Victor,
is time now for us to take a break, and
when we come back, we'll be talking about one of
the more dynamic players from this year's and previous year's
World Juniors. We'll tell you who that is. On the
other side, you're listening to Tidy takes.
Speaker 3: This could lead to excellent our serious injury.
Speaker 2: When and we're back, and we tease before the break
that we'd be spending some time talking about a dynamic
player from this year's World Juniors. And he's been that
dynamic player for several years in this tournament, a veteran
of twenty one games in the under twenty tournament, two
time winner of the Best Defenseman award for the tournament
this year as well as in twenty twenty three. Of course,
we're talking Axel Sandy and Pelica Victor. I want to
change up the format here. I want you to wax
poetic about this guy before we dive into the two
trades involving him in the tidy. What should we know
about ASP?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's doing really great for Shi Leftia AIK
this season. I think that, you know, last season was
with them and they won the SHL Championship from the
third place position in the regular season, which is always
kind of interesting. He his point paces up twenty four
points in thirty two games from eighteen to thirty nine
last season. Some of the other things that are interesting
is that his total time on ice has gone up
nearly two minutes, and almost all of that is shorthanded.
Last season, ASP did not play shorthanded at all, and
this season they're trusting him in all situations a lot more,
which is really really heartwarming, really good to see. You know,
he's actually second on the entire team in total time
on ice, and I think this is a really big
deal because my biggest concern from him has always been
his even strength time on ice. There's no doubt in
my mind that he will be the top power play
quarterback option in Detroit. Whether or not the coach uses
him that way is certainly his decision, but he should be. However,
if isp is top quarterback on the power play but
only playing seventeen to eighteen minutes on a third pair,
that is going to be really hard to put up
incredible fantasy numbers. If, however, he's playing shorthanded, if he's
playing good even strength minutes, that is really going to
help his peripheral coverage. And of course you can get
a little bit more of a trickle with those five
on five points, so that is going to massively improve
his value. I still think he's more of a second
pair guy than a top pair guy, but it's not
out of the realm of possible now, especially with his
recent play both in the club play and of course,
I think people will really recognize his World Junior play.
He was the captain of that team Sweden. Of course,
they continue to struggle in the playoff format, but dominant
in many other aspects of the game. Ten points in
seven games, one of the best defensemen there, really showing
all situation dominance at his age level. I think, you know,
people are still forgetting because he's been talked about for
a couple of years now, but he's still only nineteen.
He's still only nineteen, dominating world juniors, playing in the
SHL for as many games as he had being so young.
This is all an incredible resume, and I think we
should be really really excited about this player. I think
we're going to really be able to see him do
incredible things when he does make the transition. I was
just looking this up. Ninety three SHL games before the
age of twenty is pretty incredible stuff. So I love
to see that. I think he's better than a third
pair guy now, and so we're just going to have
to have to see how the Red Wings incorporated him
and use him. But that's my initial thoughts on him. Ryan.
I think I'm really changing my mind. I think I'm
really seeing him more competent at even strength and in
shorthanded situations, which I didn't really see early on. It
was a lot more just offense from him.
Speaker 2: Thanks for setting us up, Victor, and let's put a
pin in that second pairing thought, because I think that's
going to come up a little bit later. To offer
some full disclosure here, one of the trades we're going
to talk about. The last one was my very own,
as we sent away Axel, Sandy and Pelica for some
upgrades in our division. We're moving on from him to
try and compete at the top of the Lord Stanley Division.
But we'll talk about that later because this first deal,
Victor has too many exciting star players to discuss. And
I understand as part of the Patreon perks that you
get for being a patron of Fantasy Hockey Life, you
do get the opportunity to bounce some trade ideas, do
some roster doctoring with the roster doctor himself, Victor Nunio,
And I know that you consulted on this trade, and
so I'll be interested to know what you have to
say here. This is a trade in the Tidy Lidstrom Division,
again our bottom division, where Scott Scott detur acquires a
defenseman Jared Spurgeon of the Minnesota Wild, recently returned from
his injury, Alex Ovechkin, who is just crushing it this year,
the gray haired Russian phenom is still chasing Wayne Gretzky
and looking great doing so. And that's just for Jesse.
I know he's gonna love hearing that when he does
the edit later. And Sidney Crosby. So we've got Crosby, Ovechkin,
and Spurgeon going to Scott in exchange for Axel sandin Pelica,
Scott Lawton center for the Philadelphia Flyers, and Jason Robertson,
the Star left winger for the Dallas Stars. So it's
a very interesting trade here. You're getting some really high
quality veterans in Ovechkin and Crosby, as well as reliable
defenseman in Spurgeon for ASP and Robertson and Lawton. All
of these players very interesting certainly if you're the win
Now team. You're looking to acquire Ovechkin and Crosby, who
are seven and six Fantasy points per game respectively. Spurgeon
no slouch either at four point five, Robertson at five
point five, and Scott Lawton around four point twenty five.
So some disparate values here. You're hoping for ASB to
make up some of the value in the aggregate. Scott
had this to say he saw the opportunity to acquire
Ov while he was injured before Christmas in order to
keep up with the other big teams at the top
of the pack and pursue the omni track. It felt
it was his best chance to really up his top
end and adding Spurgeon help the floor. He initially didn't
want to include asp because he wanted to hold him
for a deadline deal as he would have top three
prospect d value, but the other man you're here, untidy,
untidy Lidstrom, great name, didn't want other offers that he
was suggesting that involved Liam Bixel Jeg or Surin because
he was also thinking to go high end. So Scott
decided that he would move Robertson as his last younger
NHL that he was willing to trade, and with him
not playing well at the time, it was the only
deal that he would accept, and then Lawton was kind
of a throw in center. Scott acknowledges that if he
doesn't win this year, that he's probably screwed if Ovie retires,
but that he hopes that he gets the record this
year and that Scott promotes out of Lidstrom into a
higher division rob who is the manager of Untidy Lidstrom.
His side of the trade is that Scott first expressed
this interest and sent the offer for Crosbyovechkin a Spurgeon
with Robertson as the centerpiece of the return, and that
through the negotiation of the deal settled on ASP. As
he was looking to bolster his d prospects given that
his team is fairly weak at the position, saw the
opportunity to solidate the value of three aging assets in Crosby,
Spurgeon and Ovechkin into next year's and future year's success.
Every prospect out there raves about ASP, according to Rob
and that he had liked what he'd seen of him
prior in the prior World Junior's Tournament, so landing him
the return was what he was looking for. He acknowledges
the risk of Cider keeping Powerplay one going forward, but
that the Wings haven't been shy in the past about
using literally anyone else up there instead of him see Gustavsen,
gostas Bear, et cetera, which he's hoping bodes well for ASP.
He mentioned that Scott is contending for first place and
has been in the omni track race all season, and
so the steel made sense for both sides. Tidy managers
are voting in favor seventy one percent of Scott's side
of the trade, and I can't say I disagree. Crosby
and Ovechkin saved the NHL after the four h five lockout,
and they look to be well on the way to
saving Scott's omni track hopes. Is ASP's future value enough
combined to Latin and j Rob to make this make
sense for you? Victor?
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you mentioned full disclosure, I did help Scott
with this deal, and I am happy to do that
for all patrons. That's a perk. You can run trade
ideas by me negotiate things. It's funny actually when I
have to be doing this on both sides, which I
tell the managers, Hey, both of you are asking my opinion,
and I always try to make it a win win.
I think a lot of these should be a win win,
and I still do even though I only help Scott
on this end. I think that most trades should be
a win win. I think this one is it helps
both players in their situation. I think Scott definitely gets
better now, but as he said, he better get promoted
or it's going to be a bit rough for him.
Sid Ov both great and Spurgeon channeling his inner MONI
Python whispering, I'm not dead yet. He coming back from
the Dad I believe the night at the dan for
we're recording this, he scored a goal, so he's hanging
in there. He's doing a good job. I think those
are some really good assets to come back the other way.
Will Obe retire after I assume he's going to get
the record this year. Maybe he won't, but if he doesn't,
I'm sure he will be back. If he does, I
think he'll probably also still be back and play as
long as he can, because he's just wired that way.
Crosby seems like he's going to continue playing for several
more years at an elite level because that's just who
he is. Spurgeon has definitely declined, but he's still well
above replacement level, which is kind of nice to see.
I think one of the biggest talking points in this
deal is Jason Robertson. He's a tricky one. Scott and
I had many conversations about him. That one hundred and
nine point season just seems like an anomaly at this point,
but you do see Robertson scoring in the point per
game plus range, but maybe he's closer to seventy eighty
point guy. If that's the case, then this is an
easy one to move off of. I think that he
has room for more. It really depends on how the
team deploys him. Certainly, with the emergence of Why Johnston
and look at Stankovin, that has shifted a little bit.
When Robertson was putting up those huge point totals, he
was the man. He was getting all he was getting
fed all the pucks, and they were really relying on
him for the scoring. Now that they have more balance scoring,
they don't necessarily need that. But I still think he
can be more than a seventy to eighty point guy.
And I think this is a great move for Untidy
Lidstrom to be able to acquire a guy who has
that upside who's not really living up to it. So
I really like that part. And as we mentioned, ASP
could be killing it for Rob as early as next season.
Although the Red Wings love to slow play their prospects,
I think that ASP is going to see some time
in the AHL, even though as I said, nearly one
hundred SAHL games as a teenager. He is ready. He
is ready to step into that role now, even at
the end of this season, I don't know that they'll
do that. Maybe they reward him with a little bit
of a taste. But we've seen Simon and Edvnson, we've
seen Albert Johansson both do really well in the SHL
and need to pay their dues in the AHL before
coming up. So I have a strong feeling that's what
ASP is going to be doing. But even so, you
should be able to be seeing ASP in the wing
wheel in the not too distant future. And so I
really do like this for both sides. I think that
getting ASP and Jason Robertson, a guy whose stock is
down a little bit in Robertson but still has huge upside,
and ASP, who is just not that far away from
being likely a well above average player, is pretty great.
So when when I love it, what about you, Ryan?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that Crosby is in this deal because
he offers a good jumping off point for my trade,
which we'll talk about shortly here. As Ed and I
the BFFs, we own Sidney Crosby, and he is actually
one of the reasons why we made the deal that's
coming up, and so it's interesting that Sid is involved.
You know, I think ASP can make up that value
eventually for rob. You know, I understand wanting to move
off of Crosby and Ovechkin more than Crosby because he's
a bit older and the potential of his career ending sooner.
You mentioned Crosby is going to be around for the
next couple of years, and I do believe that although
he is a man, right, he is mortal, and eventually
he should drop off, right like, that's just the way
of it. Although it looks like he will stay with
the Pittsburgh Penguins for the rest of that time, he
is just a man, and so he eventually will drop off.
And so I understand Scott wanting to, you know, get
these guys at their peak so he can jump up
to the next tier and not worry about it anymore.
So I completely understand it. And I'm going to transition
now into talking about my trade. This is the best
part about being one of the co hosts on Fantasy
Hockey Life is I can just make everybody listen to
a discussion of a trade that I did and see
how Victor thinks here and Victor, we did talk about
this when the trade happened, and this deal happened between
the BFFs, ME and Ed Swan and our old pal
Simon on the tidy commissioning team who took over team
in Lord Stanley this year the Ajax Tidy Knights, the
original manager had to step away. Simon stepped in. You know,
he's been very strong in the lower tiers and so
it made sense to just bring him on board into
Lord Stanley. So we've got intercommission team dealing here, Victor,
and just make sure you know where your bread is buttered.
Between Simon and me, let's just say that here. Here's
the deal. And I mentioned Crosby is somewhat involved, Ed
and I own Sidney Crosby in the tidy. We want
to take advantage of the fact that we have Sidney Crosby.
We want to really go for it the next couple
of years. So we were looking to acquire pieces that
will be good for the next couple of years. We're
not really worried about four or five years down the
road here, We're worried about one, two and three years
from now. And so we acquired Gustav Forsling and Ricard Raquel,
who are both performing at pretty good clips in the
Tidy League. We have been missing a top line winger.
We've been missing a kind of mid tier defenseman in
our lineup, and so we decided we'd pulled the trigger
on this deal to get Gustav Foresling and Ricard Raquel
from Simon. Four Hampus Lindholm, who is currently or on
the IR for Boston and wasn't giving us any points,
Axel Sandy and Pelica. As we discussed, We've got prospect
Dawson or sorry not prospect young Centerman for the new
Jersey Devils, Dawson mercer prospect Cole Isserman who just starred
for the US team of the World Juniors, and we
threw in goaltender Ivon Fetotov to balance the scales.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: Eight of the you know, give or take twenty five
managers voted this trade as even for US thirty two percent,
most people siding with Simon sixty percent, getting the bulk
of the assets as well as Axel sandein Pelica and
Cole Eiserman. And just how the points breakdown here. Victor
Riccard Raquel has had a he's averaging around six Fantasy
points per game, Foresling at four point five with Lindholm
when he has played this season at three point seventy five,
Mercer at three point five, and Ivan Fedotov very inconsistently
this year, putting up a round five Fantasy points per
game when he plays, which is rarely. It was a
bit of an odd experience asking for Tidy takes feedback
directly after completing this trade, but I did do that
for Simon, who had this to say. He took over
this roster four periods before the trade and had gone
three to one after going nine to zero with his
team build in Gretzky, and he wants to note that
that's a humble brag. He was pretty happy with the
results in the team that he had, but was concerned
about the upside of this roster. In Lord Stanley that
he had a couple of solid younger pieces, but not
enough to take him over the top and stay there.
So after he felt reasonably confident about not being relegated
this year, he wanted to flip the aging pieces on
his teams in relegation, four younger pieces and overachieving pieces
to the winning teams. Overachieving like Ricard Raquel. We had
a bit of a spat on the discord between Ed
and Simon when we were trying to sell Asp, which
we made known you know in the league chat. We
wanted to sell Asp to get a defenseman, and so
Simon put in the offer of Foresling and Riquel. You know,
he's he's sad to lose Foresling, but he's confident that
what you see is what you get with Foresling, and
that the return of Asp and Linnholms the downgrade would
make him happy for now. Simon believes that ASP could
be in Detroit's lineup next season. More on that later,
or in three and four years if Iiserman keeps signing
more demon. But he thinks that Asp is eventually a
six plus fantasy points per game guy, which is monster
value in the tidy Raquel at six plus fantasy points
be game with someone he was actively shopping. He tried
other trades for him to no avail, and so we
wanted him included as part of the deal, and we
decided to include Eiserman on the other side were we
negotiated a little bit. He wanted Fialla, which was a
too much for us to pay, so we ended up
moving on for Mercer, which was tough for me being
a Newfoundlander. Really hard to move on from the pride
of Bay Roberts Dawson Mercer, Mercer helps Simon today and
Izerman being the best prospect the Islanders have. He hopes
that he doesn't get ruined by Lou and the organization.
But you gotta love the potential idea of Iiserman with
Horvett and Barzel. If all goes well, in two to
three years, no one will remember Raquel and Forsling, and
Simon will be beginning his ascension to the top of
the Lord Stanley division. And as for Fetatav, goaltending with
Simon's weakest position and adding Fetatav will help him with
roster management and flexing him up and down. He's hoping
that he could figure it out and become a decent
goalie for me. Okay, So here's my thought here, Victor.
I know what you think of this deal, and you
can share that in just a moment, but I'm going
to defend myself a little bit here. I think that
Simon and I differ on upside projection for Axel Sandy
and Pelica, and that's how this deal works out. I
personally think he's more of a four and a half
fantasy points guy per game guy myself. Because it's crowded
in Detroit. You know, there still needs to be minutes
for Ben Sharatt and Justin Hall and Gustavsen. You know,
there's a lot of guys there who have multiple years
left on their contracts, not to mention the two absolute
stallions in Morrit Cider and Simon Edvnson. You know, although
I recognize that ASP has probably the most value on
the power play out of those three guys, I don't
think you will see him as the like, no doubt,
number one power play quarterback for years to come on
that team. I think it could be the kind of
thing where if one of those guys starts flagging, the
other guy will jump into that spot, and then you
have Asp as a top four defenseman or maybe a
third pair of defenseman who's not getting power play time.
And yes, he's talented, he's not going to be like
a Kaylin Addison type or Tony DiAngelo who has no
value outside of the power play. But he might top
out at a four point five fan points per game
guy if he doesn't get that consistent lineup placement. So
in my mind, we're upgrading Lindholm via ASP to Forslang,
who is, as Simon said, what you see is what
you get. Let's leave it right there for now before
we talk about the rest of the deal. How do
you view my evaluation of ASP here?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's certainly possible that he could end
up that way. I think what I've seen from him
in the past year, six months to year, I do
think that he has a lot more value at even strength.
I mean, I think, you know, you look at a
guy like cal mccarr, and I'm not saying that AESP
is going to be kill mccarr, but a lot of
people when he came into the league said he was
all offense. He couldn't hang it even strength. And certainly,
if mccarr was a third pairing guy just running the
top power play, he'd be getting a lot of points,
but he wouldn't be as valuable as being their top defenseman,
playing in all situations and logging massive minutes. And I
think ASP is inching closer to that. He's inching closer
to potentially earning those top minutes, and if he can
get there, I think he's gonna be much closer to
five to six Fantasy points in this format, and that
is going to tilt the tide towards towards Simon in
this case. So I think it really comes down to that.
I could I could see that taking a while, though.
I don't think that he's gonna walk into the league
and do that right away, but you know, I think
it's gonna it's gonna be interesting to see. And as
you said, they do have other options. I think even
if they do plan on giving him the top power play,
they're probably going to be a little judicious about it
and just let Cider or Edmonson do that for a while.
So we might be looking at two to three years
from now, and so a lot can shift and change
in that time. But I do really think he has
that upside, and so I like that quite a lot.
Speaker 2: Two to three years, we could be looking at an
NHL without Sidney Crosby, right, Like I said, this is
the timeline that we're looking at to try and compete
and win the Tidy League, you know, to go from
starting this league with you back in the day in
twenty twenty two to winning the league in twenty twenty five,
twenty six. That kind of timeline would be great for US.
I do acknowledge that in the aggregate, Lindholm and asp
for Foresling is a win for Simon. I will say
that I think we gain value on the other side
of the trade, which is Raquel versus Isserman. And the
question is is Ierman going to be better than Raquel
at any point in his career? And I think that's
maybe at best. I think he's even with him in
this case. We're trading production later for production now to
try to win, and so we're thinking of it as
upgrading Mercer to Raquel via Isserman, and so you can
see kind of how we're thinking about this trade here.
The question for me about Iiserman is, you know, how
does he fit on this New York Islanders team? Right
we don't really know where they're going to go as
of right now. Lou seems to still be thinking that
they're going to compete. I think that that's kind of folly.
I don't think this is this is a competitive team.
And so the question is where does Eiserman fit in
the lineup? Is he like an Oliver Wallstrom type who
they've moved on from now to They sent him off
via waivers to Boston. You know, is he a Simon
Holmstrom who you know has sparks of relevance but most
of the time is giving you nothing every night? Or
or does he end up on that top line? You know,
does he end up with a Horvat or a Barzel
and and does he you know, does he get past
his reputation of being kind of meh, relaxed defensively. Can
he get up to that top six role? I don't
think so. You know, on a very stacked world junior
team this year, he was the thirteenth forward. You know,
I wonder if he plays that kind of role in
his NHL career. And so I think we make up
the value that we lose on Asp in this Isserman trade.
What do you think about Raquel versus Iiserman?
Speaker 3: Well, I think overall, I love you know, this as
a win win in general. And I have to I
have to shout out Simon just a little bit because
I think this this really exemplifies to me how cool
Dynasty is. Because last season, Simon and I sorry, I
said Simon, Simon and I made a trade where I
was kind of pushing my chips in he was kind
of retooling for next year. I got arteriy Lekin and
Evan Bouchard in that league, and I ended up winning
and getting promoted, and he got Jamie Drysdale, Spencer Night,
Matt Fey, Mitchikoff, and Valeria Nachushkin, which I think is
really helping him. Helped him this year, as he said,
get after that really heart start, and then he ended
up getting a team in Lord Stanley. We always do
that in case people are wondering when a team becomes available.
We look at who the most deserving manager is to
get promoted, and it's based on your record and your
time in the league and all those kinds of things.
And so Simon had really put in the time and
effort to be that way. So he used that trade
last year to really propel himself to the top, and
then this year. I really like what he's doing too,
because I think for you guys, it makes sense. I
honestly did not really realize how good of a season
for cart Raquel is having, and I think he's it
makes sense for you guys to do to upgrade to him.
I do like that move for you guys. I'm less
excited about the Gustav Foresling, although I agree that Hampus
Lindholm to Gustav Foresling is an upgrade. I feel like
those guys are a little bit static in their value
and Raquel might be coming down soon. But I do
like the overall trajectory of that. I agree that you know,
Linhelm is what he is. He's barely above replacement for
a lot of metrics. Dassin Mercer has frustrated a lot
of us, and he continues to kind of be like
adder around replacement level. One of the things we talked
about is Ivon Fetotov, and I think it's worth kind
of digging into him a little bit because that is
one thing, aside from Eiserman, which we'll get to, that
really could shift this deal. Because I know that you're
kind of fed up with Fedatav. I don't think he's
going to go anywhere, but and frankly, I think a
lot of Philly fans are feeling that way right now too.
But you know the reality is that they are paying
him a fair amount of money. They did commit to him,
they did kind of want him to be their guy,
and it hasn't quite worked out, but I will say
if you look at some of the underlying numbers, he
has been the best goalie in my opinion, in Philly
by some of the underlying metrics. He has the best
goals save above expected, which is negative two point five
not great. This is at even strength, But Kolosoff is
negative seven point three four and Sam Erson, who just
got named to Team Sweden to replace Mark Strum, is
negative fourteen point sixty four, the worst by far. And
of course he's had a larger and more difficult workload,
so you can't necessarily pile that all on him. But
the other thing to look at is that Evan Fedotov
has outperformed his even strength expected goal sorry expected save percentage,
So he's getting really poor protection and he's out producing
that a little bit, but it still leads to more
goals than the team would like. All that to say,
I don't think that it's over for Feedatav. I think
everyone is disappointed in the situation, and as Simo mentioned,
maybe you know this is an air weakness of him
and maybe that can turn around. So I like that.
I like that calculated risk in terms of I think
the biggest thing it comes down to, though, as we
discuss what is Cole Eiserman. If he is, you know,
a forty goal scorer who you know can put up
a ton of points and really pump up his value,
then then maybe a few years from now this looks
worse for you. I think it's gonna take a while.
I really, I really do like what I saw from Eisman.
I mean what he did at the World Juniors, accepting
that role as the thirteenth forward and really improving his
off putt game. I think says a lot about him.
He really has worked on that. He knows it's a
it's an issue for him, and I think if all
those things become NHL average, his goal scoring is such
a special skill that it is going to absolutely break
through for him. I mean, in many ways, it kind
of reminds me of of Patrick Lyoney. Line is really
weak in a lot of other areas of the game,
but you can't deny that you can just put him
over on that flank and he can just pump goals
into the net. Of course, he's a bigger player and
he has some other attributes as well, but eitherman is
kind of similar and I think that he could get there.
I think I'm seeing a little bit more promise that
he can get there, but we'll have to wait and see.
Even if he does get there, I think it's going
to be two to three years, and so, like we
said about ASP, a lot can change. So I think
Simon is really taking the long road here. But maybe
you know, in Lord Stanley, it's really hard because everyone's
going for the same thing. I feel like you can't
necessarily just look at next year. You have to sometimes
plan these things out a couple of years in advance
because everyone's looking at now even and even if not now,
next year. But you know, three teams get relegated every
year from Lord Stanley, and I'm trying not to be
one of them. I think I'm going to be safe.
I'm pretty much like in the fat middle right now,
and I know that to push your chips in and
get to the top, you really have to be ruthless.
And so I saw this as, yeah, you guys are
moving on for some players who aren't really going to
help you now or anytime in the next year two
most likely, and you get some players that you know
are a bit a bit more helpful right now. So
another example of a win win A couple of the
especially with Fetotov and Eiserman, might shift things a bit
more towards Timo, depending on how things go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to give people the standings of the
Lord Stanley or the context in which we're making this deal.
You know, we've been pretty consistently in the top four
or five teams all year, and it's very competitive at
the top. We've got the NHL Rankking Mason, We've got
the former tidy champion, current reigning tidy champion, I should say,
Jack Ze. You know, We've we've got some tough competition
at the top, and we have been missing the defenseman
and the winger in this part of our lineup. You know,
we drafted Dawson Mercer thinking he would be a lot
better than he is. He's just kind of what he
is at this point. We've never really had you know,
defense has always been an area of weakness for our lineup,
and so foresling something consistent there was good. I want
to touch on Fetatov, Like you mentioned, I'm a little
fed up with owning this player. How many times in
a year, Victor do you hear a head coach like
John Torderella is saying, okay, here is our here's our
hierarchy of goaltending. And so he put earlier this season,
around November December, he said, Ivan Fedotov, he's our third
goaltender this year. We're going with Kolosov and Yerson. And
then of course Erson got hurt, and so Feedotov got
a bit more of an opportunity, and then Kolosov really
kind of the wheels fell off with him. And then
you know, a couple months later, Torderello comes out and says,
just kidding, Fetotov is now our second goaltender. You know,
it's just wild over there in Philadelphia, and I am
getting off ride and I will throw ed under the
bus a little bit. Here. He helped us acquire Fetotov
by downgrading our first round pick this year from Levshunov,
who would have been our pick at that time, to
Cole Isserman, and so functionally we traded our first round
pick from last year and our fifth f US prospect
pick from the startup draft for Foresling and Raquel. So
I don't mind it too much. Mercer and Lindholm weren't
helping us win and it may seem a little myopic,
but we want to win now while we still have
cross and B. I do recognize that if you know,
if Iserman and ASP are lion A and Lane Hudson,
then yeah, we lose this deal for sure, you know,
and Simon will have gotten a really good, you know,
chunk of flesh out of us for this deal. But
you know, if they end up more like you know,
throwing out names like Bowen byrom for ASP, who's you know,
kind of behind Doleen in power, And if if Izerman
ends up more like I said, like Simon Holmstrom, then
we don't mind this deal at all.
Speaker 3: Definitely, No, it makes a lot of sense. And yeah,
I think that it's it's easy to look back and
if things go a certain way, to criticize this deal.
But I think I like the upgrade now. And I
think that if you guys are in contention, you gotta
you gotta be ruthless to to push your push your
way up the table, and so sometimes you can't always
take the time to think two or three years. So
I think it's a good it's a good deal and
it makes sense for both sides.
Speaker 2: Few Well, that's a relief, Victor, I'm happy to come
out of this podcast with a little bit of confidence
in the in the move that we made. And that's
the end of the trades that we've talked about here today.
We did have a couple more interesting World Juniors players
traded in our league. I'll just mention one that jumped
out to me today. We won't go into it, but
but we did have We did have a trade that
is being voted overwhelmingly in the favor of one of
the teams here in Tidy Yager that was just posted today. Recently,
we have Titanium Cranium acquiring Matthew Patris, Easton Cowen, and
Jacob Peltier for Trek Peiskak and the Maxium Masse, which
seems like a clear win for Titanium Cranium. We would
have included this one, but I like to have the opportunity, Victor,
to ask the managers what they think, and this happened
so recently I didn't think we'd get an answer back
in time for the podcast. But for me, you know,
acquiring Easton, Cowen, Patras, and Peltier for Pariscak and a
guy seems like a pretty good deal for titanium, cranium,
and lots of other deals didn't make the cut, but
you know, we'll be back at the end of the month, Victor,
why don't you tease a little bit of you know,
we'll be talking at the end of the month for
another episode of Tidy Takes, and why don't you take
us out of here. It's been great to be back
with you, even though we're both kind of playing hurt
here today. And I'm thanking the listeners for their indulgence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate all your work on this, Ryan, and yeah,
we got some good stuff coming up. We got on
a Scouts tout coming up, and then I'm going to
be doing an episode with a commission who does a
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Then we're then I'm gonna be out for a couple
of weeks. I'm actually moving and there's a lot of
personal stuff going on, So Jesse is gonna take over
and do an episode, and then we're gonna be back
after the trade deadline talking tidy Takes and giving a
big update about what's going on. So definitely want to
keep keep your ear peeled for that. And we got
a bunch of and then after that we're you know,
we're coming up on team preview season. I mean, there's
not too much of the season coming up after that,
so a lot of great stuff coming up on Fantasy.
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