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<v Speaker 1>Here take my advice, you have to be very careful

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<v Speaker 1>if you call out to one of the dead, all

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<v Speaker 1>of them can hear you down.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw them down down the living.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, and welcome to the brand new mini series where

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<v Speaker 3>we will be traveling into the Further. So get your

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<v Speaker 3>lanterns and follow me. My nose is still a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit stuffed up. I've been dealing with some type of

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<v Speaker 3>congestion shit. Sorry to sound like Frian pressure, but we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna get through it together. So I was inspired by my.

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<v Speaker 3>Love of the Insidious movies and hearing about my husband's

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<v Speaker 3>terrifying encounters with sleep paralysis to create this series. But

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to go all the way into the Further.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only are we going to dive into sleep paralysis,

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<v Speaker 3>We're also gonna listen to some of the craziest paranormal

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<v Speaker 3>experiences I've ever heard, and I've got some crazy ass

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<v Speaker 3>clips lined up for us to discuss. But before we

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<v Speaker 3>do that, let's lay.

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<v Speaker 4>Some groundwork here.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've never personally experienced sleep paralysis, thank god, but

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that science has done a great job, like

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<v Speaker 3>with literally everything else, making it sound like a biological

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<v Speaker 3>issue and not a spiritual one. I personally would categorize

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<v Speaker 3>sleep paralysis into.

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<v Speaker 4>The paranormal realm.

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<v Speaker 3>And for those of you who disagree, maybe by the

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<v Speaker 3>end of this series I can persuade you others wise,

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<v Speaker 3>so we all know what they say, right. Sleep paralysis

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<v Speaker 3>is what happens when you wake up out of your dream,

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<v Speaker 3>but your body doesn't know you're awake yet, and you

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<v Speaker 3>remain in a state of paralysis for several minutes, which

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<v Speaker 3>is usually accompanied by hallucinations quote unquote, And I actually

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk about a couple of those different types

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<v Speaker 3>of hallucinations. You got your visual hallucinations. People may see

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<v Speaker 3>flashing lights, colors, or even physical figures, including shadowy figures, demons,

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<v Speaker 3>or intruders. Then you have your auditory hallucinations. These can

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<v Speaker 3>include sounds like whispers, screams, or the sound of Then

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<v Speaker 3>you have tactile hallucinations. People may feel a sense of

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<v Speaker 3>pressure on their chest or a feeling of being touched

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<v Speaker 3>or held down. That's gotta be the worst fucking one.

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<v Speaker 3>And then some other hallucinations include that some may experience

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<v Speaker 3>out of body sensations or feelings.

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<v Speaker 4>Of movement, like I can only imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>What it would feel like to wake up and see

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<v Speaker 3>some fucked up dementor looking motherfuckers from Harry Potter standing

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<v Speaker 3>over your bed. But besides just regular shadow people, it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like there are a few entities that appear to

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<v Speaker 3>almost every experiencer at some point or another, including the hag,

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<v Speaker 3>the hat man, or the creature like entity that literally

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<v Speaker 3>sits on your chest.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, think about that.

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<v Speaker 3>How can this be a shared delusion seen by so

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<v Speaker 3>many people? Going all the way back in time, There

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<v Speaker 3>are recorded accounts as early as sixteen sixty four and

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<v Speaker 3>even earlier of these night demons. If this is something

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<v Speaker 3>that can be explained away as just a simple biological response,

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<v Speaker 3>why are the same demons popping up over and over

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<v Speaker 3>and over again. You would think it would be individual

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<v Speaker 3>to the person experiencing these hallucinations quote unquote.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 3>The first known clinical description of paralysis, referred to as

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<v Speaker 3>incubus or the knight mayor, was published in sixteen sixty

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<v Speaker 3>four by Dutch physician Ibrend van Demmerbrock. I think is

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<v Speaker 3>how you pronounced the last name in his case histories right.

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<v Speaker 3>This description documented a woman's experience of feeling like something

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<v Speaker 3>was pressing on her and preventing her from moving while.

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<v Speaker 4>She was asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>And while the Dutch physician's account is considered the earliest

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<v Speaker 3>written medical description, there are even earlier mentions of this

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<v Speaker 3>phenomenon in folklore and medical texts from ancient civilizations like

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<v Speaker 3>Mesopotamia and Persia. The concept of the incubus or old

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<v Speaker 3>hag quote unquote as a demon causing sleep paralysis in

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<v Speaker 3>nightmares actually has roots in ancient cultures. So I want

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<v Speaker 3>to open us up by playing a super short clip

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<v Speaker 3>here that I came across on YouTube of this very thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a lady talking about her experience, and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be back right after this.

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<v Speaker 4>Hang on, tell me about a time you experienced sleep paralysis.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a nightmare. I literally called my mom because

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<v Speaker 5>I thought my room was haunted. It was in a hotel.

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<v Speaker 5>I was stuck and something held me down and it

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<v Speaker 5>had four feet. I literally googled sleep paralysis. There's an

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<v Speaker 5>illustration from like the eighteen hundreds of this little demon

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<v Speaker 5>that was exactly what I saw, and I had never

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<v Speaker 5>seen that picture before. Are you sure it wasn't your cat?

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I thought at first. I was like, what's

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<v Speaker 5>just a cat ghost, It's fine, And then I realized, no,

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<v Speaker 5>this is terrifying. Google sleep paralysis demon.

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<v Speaker 4>It will come up and we'd back.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like I said, why are the same demons

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<v Speaker 3>popping up over and over and over again? You would think,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said before, it would be individual to the person,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Was the hotel this.

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<v Speaker 3>Woman was staying at some kind of a portal, cause

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like this was probably a thirty year old

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<v Speaker 3>woman and it sounds like this was her first experience

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<v Speaker 4>So what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 3>She's never experienced sleep paralysis before this in probably thirty

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<v Speaker 3>years of being alive. She stays at this random ass place,

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<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden, she's got this demon

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<v Speaker 3>sitting on her chest that people have been seeing since

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning of time.

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<v Speaker 4>Almost. I mean, it just doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Seem like you can explain it away as some type

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<v Speaker 3>of like scientific or biological thing that's going on. On.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know, I covered the ancient history of sleep paralysis,

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<v Speaker 3>but how about something a.

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<v Speaker 4>Little bit more recent.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen seventy seven, it was discovered more than one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred previously healthy people from various Southeast Asian communities had

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<v Speaker 3>died mysteriously in their sleep. The individuals affected were dying

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<v Speaker 3>from something that they called sudden unexplained nocturnal death syndrome.

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<v Speaker 3>No underlying cause was ever found, only that subsequent studies

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<v Speaker 3>revealed a high rate of sleep paralysis and the belief

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<v Speaker 3>in the dab song or nightmare spirit amongst members of

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<v Speaker 3>the community.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the kicker.

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<v Speaker 3>Most died at the age of thirty three. But remember

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<v Speaker 3>this is just supposed to be some kind of biological thing, right,

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<v Speaker 3>even though people are dying a basically sudden unexplained nocturnal

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<v Speaker 3>death syndrome sounds a lot like the SIDS sudden infant

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<v Speaker 3>death syndrome, which I also think is spiritual. So let's

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<v Speaker 3>just say, for the rest of this series, I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to maintain an open mind as we search for

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<v Speaker 3>the truth behind sleep paralysis. So we're gonna take another

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<v Speaker 3>quick break, actually, and I'm gonna play a clip from

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<v Speaker 3>this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>His name is Isaiah, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been following him on YouTube for a while. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy's voice gets on my fucking nerves. But I

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<v Speaker 3>really like what he's saying. And literally, right as I

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<v Speaker 3>decided to create this series. He posted this video, and

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<v Speaker 3>there are no such thing as coincidences, so I definitely

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<v Speaker 3>had to throw this one in there. So let's take

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<v Speaker 3>another quick break and we'll be back right after this.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, guys, today I want to talk to you about nightmares,

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<v Speaker 6>night terrors, and sleep paralysis. If you ever wondered if

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<v Speaker 6>sleep paralysis is demonic, that's what we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 6>about in this video. Please do me a favor. Stop

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<v Speaker 6>what you're doing in like the video from you, guys.

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<v Speaker 6>The question I'm always getting is are these encounters with

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<v Speaker 6>sleep paralysis a demon or a natural phenomenon? Now, before

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<v Speaker 6>you see Isaiah, I read an article it's what happens

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<v Speaker 6>when you wake up while dreaming. You're just hallucinating. It's

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<v Speaker 6>when you open your eyes while you're dreaming.

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<v Speaker 7>Guess what.

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<v Speaker 6>I read the same article. But let me just explain

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<v Speaker 6>something to you. The world is always going to try

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<v Speaker 6>to find natural ways to describe supernatural experiences. Now, if

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<v Speaker 6>you've ever been attacked by a demon at night, or

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<v Speaker 6>had a sleep paralysis or a night demon attack you,

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<v Speaker 6>you'll know that the only word you can't say is

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<v Speaker 6>the name of Jesus. So if it's just natural, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's your body waking up while you're dreaming, and it's

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<v Speaker 6>what happens when you wake up in the middle of

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<v Speaker 6>the night because you're stressed or you're sleeping on your back.

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<v Speaker 7>Why is it Jesus is the only name you can't.

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<v Speaker 6>Say, And I'm gonna tell you why, because it's not

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<v Speaker 6>natural or just sleep paralysis. It's a demonic attack. And

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<v Speaker 6>there is power in the name of Jesus. So I

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<v Speaker 6>get the science with it and the health things and

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<v Speaker 6>the articles that you read. But guys, this is not

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<v Speaker 6>just hallucinating. You're telling me that you wake up while

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<v Speaker 6>you're dreaming and your body hallucinates demons and the only

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<v Speaker 6>word you can't say is Jesus. And that's a natural phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what the devil wants you to believe. I'm telling you, guys,

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<v Speaker 6>these are demonic spirits that are attacking or manifesting at night.

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<v Speaker 6>Often symptoms of these demonic night terrors that we call

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<v Speaker 6>sleep paralysis are a weight on your chest, not being

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<v Speaker 6>able to speak the name of Jesus, seeing dark figures

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<v Speaker 6>or dark or dark dark objects in the corners of

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<v Speaker 6>your room. That's a very very common one, or feeling

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<v Speaker 6>like you're being suffocated, only like somebody's suffocating you and

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<v Speaker 6>you can't breathe. These are all symptoms of night terrors

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<v Speaker 6>night demons.

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<v Speaker 7>Now think about this.

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<v Speaker 6>The word nightmare is derived from the Old English word mayor,

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<v Speaker 6>so night mayor and the word mayor is a means

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<v Speaker 6>this literally, the actual word comes from a mythological demon

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<v Speaker 6>or a goblin who torments others with frightening dreams. So

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<v Speaker 6>this is not a Christian description. This is literally where

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<v Speaker 6>the word nightmare comes from. You can find this on Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a goblin or a night demon. So even the

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<v Speaker 6>world recognizes nightmares are night demons. The sleep paralysis is

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<v Speaker 6>just a certain type of demonic attack. It's not always

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<v Speaker 6>a demon where you're having nightmares, but it also can

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<v Speaker 6>be things you're watching or things you're letting in your mind.

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<v Speaker 6>And I would say this, be very careful with what

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<v Speaker 6>you're watching before bed, because you have to understand there's

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<v Speaker 6>three sources of dreams. There's a holy spirit gives you dreams,

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<v Speaker 6>the human spirit could dream, and a demonic spirit. So

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<v Speaker 6>today we're talking about demonic spirits attacking at night. But

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<v Speaker 6>other way is your human spirit have giving you these

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<v Speaker 6>dreams because what you've opened up the doors, or what

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<v Speaker 6>you've been.

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<v Speaker 7>Watching before bed.

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<v Speaker 6>It could be a horror movie, it could be sexual things,

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<v Speaker 6>and now you're getting these dreams and you're like, why

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<v Speaker 6>am I getting these nightmares? It's not necessarily a demon

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<v Speaker 6>attacking you. It could also be, like I said, what

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<v Speaker 6>you've been watching before bed. Now you need to know

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<v Speaker 6>the devil does prey on us at night. We as

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<v Speaker 6>believers know the devil's always looking for a way in,

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<v Speaker 6>and if a demon cannot gain access through the day,

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<v Speaker 6>they're gonna try to gain access at night. Psalms ninety

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<v Speaker 6>one to five says to not fear the terrors of

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<v Speaker 6>the night. So there are terrors that come in the night.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a spiritual war friend going on right now, and

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<v Speaker 6>it doesn't stop at night.

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<v Speaker 7>It doesn't go on pause.

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<v Speaker 6>of God on every night before bed because I know

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<v Speaker 6>in the Spirit while sleeping. If you've ever woken up

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<v Speaker 6>at night and you're praying the Holy Spirit while sleeping,

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<v Speaker 6>night to pray through you, and your body stays awake.

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<v Speaker 6>The Bible says that although your body's asleep, your heart

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<v Speaker 6>is still awake, so this is definitely possible. People don't

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<v Speaker 6>the daytime you might think, oh, it's just my thought

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<v Speaker 7>But at night, as you're.

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<v Speaker 6>Having these reoccurring sexual dreams or traumatic dreams or nightmares

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<v Speaker 6>might in the daytime say that's just my thoughts, that's

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<v Speaker 6>not me. But then at night, because you're not conscious

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<v Speaker 6>or awake, those demons are manifesting through you and they're

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<v Speaker 6>They never had another nightmare. Why because it was the

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<v Speaker 3>And we're back really powerful clip. Isaiah said some really

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<v Speaker 3>cool things, So let's talk about a few of them. First,

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<v Speaker 3>not being able to say the name of Jesus while

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<v Speaker 3>in sleep paralysis. I've actually never heard this one, and

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, I'm very grateful that I've never needed to.

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<v Speaker 4>But if it's true, what the fuck right?

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<v Speaker 3>That's very interesting to me. That's the one name that

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<v Speaker 3>you cannot say. Another thing that he mentioned is be

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<v Speaker 3>careful what you watch before bed. Now, this one struck

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<v Speaker 3>a chord for me because story time, my mom was

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<v Speaker 3>a kid, I was probably in third grade or even younger.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom were into a Jeffrey Dahmer docu movie and

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<v Speaker 3>there were scenes of him drugging and raping and dismembering

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<v Speaker 3>and eating dudes, and I remember watching it and that night,

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<v Speaker 3>Horrible nightmare I've ever had and I had sweats, cold chills,

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<v Speaker 3>and I actually ended up throwing up that night, and

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<v Speaker 3>I will never forget that. It was almost as if

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<v Speaker 3>my body was purging whatever evil I consumed watching that movie.

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<v Speaker 3>And so so yeah, I do think what you consume,

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<v Speaker 3>especially because the TV in itself, When you consume something

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<v Speaker 4>Goes straight inside of you. There's no filter.

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<v Speaker 3>It just goes in straight through your eyes and into

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<v Speaker 3>your soul almost.

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<v Speaker 4>And there was even.

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<v Speaker 3>Bone Tomahawk, and it got to this detainting scene where

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<v Speaker 3>this guy was getting you know, jawboned tomahawk to the

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<v Speaker 3>it okay, this brings me to my next point. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>doorways you can open is another thing that he mentioned.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I believe we are completely unaware of these doorways

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<v Speaker 3>we are creating on even a daily, hourly basis. I know,

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<v Speaker 3>because of the darkness I have plunged myself into doing

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<v Speaker 3>this research that I am not the same human being

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is when we create these doorways, we have

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<v Speaker 3>no control over what comes in and out of these

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<v Speaker 3>doorways using drugs drinking as another one that I've heard before.

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<v Speaker 3>The spirits, you know, and our lifestyle choices can open

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<v Speaker 3>up new doorways all the time. I've seen it in

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<v Speaker 3>my own family with drug addicts. They became vessels for

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<v Speaker 3>demonic entities to reside in, and it's probably one of

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<v Speaker 3>the scariest things I've ever witnessed personally in my life,

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<v Speaker 3>which of course leads us to the next point of

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<v Speaker 3>spiritual warfare. Whether you want to believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 3>or whether you are aware of it or not, each

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<v Speaker 3>and every one of us are constantly in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of a spiritual war. Luckily, for me, my grandpa was

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<v Speaker 3>a pastor and my family was very involved in our church,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was made aware from a very early age

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<v Speaker 3>that we must defend our spirit from unseen forces that

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<v Speaker 3>seek to destroy us. Put up a spiritual hedge of

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<v Speaker 3>protection around you and your kids, and where the armor

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<v Speaker 3>of God.

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<v Speaker 4>These are things.

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<v Speaker 3>That were repeated to me throughout my entire life, and yes,

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<v Speaker 3>like literally everyone else, I've struggled with what I actually

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<v Speaker 3>believe in and sifting through dogma and lies and cover up.

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<v Speaker 3>But I always end up coming back to the same conclusion.

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<v Speaker 3>There is light and there is dark, and we make

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<v Speaker 3>choices knowingly and unknowingly every minute of every day to

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<v Speaker 3>what side we are subscribing to.

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<v Speaker 4>And this also takes us to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Next point I wanted to talk about, which is that

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<v Speaker 3>they come for you at night. Whatever these entities are,

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<v Speaker 3>this is one of the points he made that gave.

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<v Speaker 4>Me full body chills.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, at night, weird thoughts pop up in my head. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely more melancholy at night, and I actually have

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<v Speaker 3>this weird doom and gloom thing I do at night

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<v Speaker 3>where I imagine all the absolute worst outcomes for every

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<v Speaker 3>possible situation, and it's like I take on a completely

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<v Speaker 3>different personality at times, and then I wake up in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning and everything seems so much better. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a switch has been flipped. Some might call this depression,

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<v Speaker 3>some might call this opression, but either way, it's something

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<v Speaker 3>that I've always struggled with. While I was working at

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<v Speaker 3>my nine to five job, which really was more like

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<v Speaker 3>uh seven to seven job because we worked like crazy shifts.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyways, I would literally crave rainy, cloudy.

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<v Speaker 3>Miserable days because for some reason it made me feel

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<v Speaker 3>better about having to be at work. I guess like

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<v Speaker 3>the outside matched my inside at a know, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting thought.

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<v Speaker 4>But also when it comes.

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<v Speaker 3>To the doorways that we open without even knowing it,

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<v Speaker 3>I think forms of childhood trauma are doorways that can

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<v Speaker 3>be opened for not just victims of SRA or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that, but just your average person.

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<v Speaker 4>Like for me, I grew up with a drug addict father, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I do believe that he was a host for some

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<v Speaker 3>type of demon, whether it was residing in him or

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<v Speaker 3>oppressing him. And I spent eighteen years of my life

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<v Speaker 3>battling this demon that surrounded him, let's just say. And

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<v Speaker 3>one of my other family members also had this same

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<v Speaker 4>My mom was always.

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<v Speaker 3>Showing me horror movies and forensic files this and kids

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<v Speaker 3>getting cut up, And like I do think, just based

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<v Speaker 3>on those small little things throughout my childhood that doorways

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<v Speaker 3>could have been opened. I know that I've experienced kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a high level of paranormal activity throughout my life,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe more than the average person. Obviously, all of these

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<v Speaker 3>subjects intrigue me to a high degree, especially sleep paralysis.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, thank God, I've never had it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I know people who do have it, and it sounds horrific.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the end of it, I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's always some type of spiritual issue going on that's

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<v Speaker 4>And so.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to take another quick break, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>actually going to take a break from sleep paralysis actually okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to play a clip. This one comes

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<v Speaker 3>from a very unlikely source. It's actually Bubba from Forrest Gump.

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<v Speaker 3>His real name is michelth Williamson, and he has one

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<v Speaker 3>of the craziest paranormal experiences I've ever heard, and surprisingly

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<v Speaker 3>it's not shrimp related. So let's actually take a listen

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<v Speaker 8>There's only three or four people in my life that

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<v Speaker 8>call me Michael, because I hate being called that. And

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<v Speaker 8>right off the bat, I knew his voice. It was

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<v Speaker 8>him here, and he said, help.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, help me.

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<v Speaker 9>You know how to help me, amen, And I was like, Adrian,

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<v Speaker 9>where are you? He said, they're trying to take me inside.

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<v Speaker 9>I ran away.

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<v Speaker 7>Help me. You got to help me right now before

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<v Speaker 8>And then I can hear all these voices screaming at him

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<v Speaker 8>for being on the phone. I can hear some sound

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<v Speaker 8>behind him that sounded like I'm only reminded of when

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<v Speaker 8>I'm near a roaring fireplace or a barbecue pit, when

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<v Speaker 8>you can hear that he cut through the air, but

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<v Speaker 8>it was magnified, and I could hear people screaming and

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<v Speaker 8>arguing with him, and then I could hear him begin.

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<v Speaker 7>To fight, and.

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<v Speaker 8>I could hear that he was overpowering, and he kept screaming, no,

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<v Speaker 8>let me go, No, no, no, no, I'm not going,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not going going.

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<v Speaker 2>Even where are you?

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<v Speaker 7>And he was screaming my name.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucking scary as fuck, right, I mean, okay. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>find the entire clip that explains why this is pairs normal,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'll sum.

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<v Speaker 4>It up for you.

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<v Speaker 3>So Bubba would later find out that his mysterious phone

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<v Speaker 3>call from his friend Adrian occurred hours after his friend

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<v Speaker 3>Adrian had been pronounced dead at the scene of a

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<v Speaker 3>car crash.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm not mistaken, and Bubba.

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<v Speaker 3>Was literally getting a phone call from hell, and I

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<v Speaker 3>believe him because I know everything there is to know

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<v Speaker 3>about the disembodied phone call in business, you got demon

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<v Speaker 3>calls dead, Grandma calls, calls from the Gates of Hell,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>But so yeah, that's probably one of the craziest paranormal

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<v Speaker 3>stories from such an unlikely source that I've heard. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the full episode is on celebrity ghost stories. There's

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<v Speaker 3>also one for Marilyn Manson that's kind of interesting, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's kind of full of shit, so take

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<v Speaker 3>it for what you will, But that one got me

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<v Speaker 3>so In the past, I used to release a random

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<v Speaker 3>Friday episode called Phantom Friday, interviewing regular people like you

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<v Speaker 3>and me about their paranormal experiences, and it was definitely entertaining.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's actually harder than you'd think to find willing

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<v Speaker 3>individuals who want to speak about their experience. But what

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<v Speaker 3>I've come to find out is at some point in

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's life they will peer through the very thin veil

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<v Speaker 3>that separates us from the unknown. They may pass it

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<v Speaker 3>off as something else, but this realm is all around

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<v Speaker 3>us all the time. And as some of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up in a haunted house. More accurately, my

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<v Speaker 3>family is just kind of haunted, more so than just

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<v Speaker 3>the house that I'm talking about. So I've always been

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<v Speaker 3>fascinated by the supernatural forces that surround us all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and in this series, I hope to explore and expose

427
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 3>the many layers of the unexplainable. Thanks so much for

428
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 3>taking this journey with me into the further and I'll

429
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 3>catch you on the next one.

430
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<v Speaker 10>So when I was fifteen, I ended up getting sent

431
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.640
<v Speaker 10>to a rehab in Utah.

432
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.519
<v Speaker 7>It was a two part program.

433
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<v Speaker 10>The first two months was in the Moab Desert. It

434
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 10>was a wilderness program, so you basically hike like five

435
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 10>miles each day. Let you make your own tent, you

436
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 10>know what I mean, like, and you hike to your

437
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.759
<v Speaker 10>food spots. So I went to that, and then you

438
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 10>transition to a like impatient rehab, and so I went there.

439
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:11.799
<v Speaker 7>And when I went there, I think, you know what happened.

440
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 7>When I was in the.

441
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 10>Wilderness, something hit my spirit. It was weird because it

442
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:18.960
<v Speaker 10>was real freeing in one sense, because I was out

443
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 10>in this beautiful place. Man, these mountains, we would hike,

444
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 10>these mountains. I mean, it was really it was honestly

445
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 10>one of.

446
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 7>The best experiences of my life.

447
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:28.400
<v Speaker 10>And once I accepted it, I took on this you

448
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 10>know this idea of like you're on your own now,

449
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 10>you know what I mean, Like your parents don't want

450
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 10>you really anymore, like they love you, but like you're.

451
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 7>Out here on your own. When I got there, I

452
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 7>got into Buddhism.

453
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 10>And when I got into it, I got really sucked

454
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Speaker 10>into it because I was I was prescribed as medicine

455
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.799
<v Speaker 10>was like an adderall type of medicine, and so I

456
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 10>would spend all my time meditating.

457
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 7>That's when I began to do poetry.

458
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:58.519
<v Speaker 10>I started writing, and you know, so I spent all

459
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:00.279
<v Speaker 10>this time in Buddhism, and it really opened me up

460
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 10>to the spiritual realm. I started having these enlightening encounters,

461
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 10>or so I thought.

462
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.200
<v Speaker 7>It was the first time I had become aware I

463
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.440
<v Speaker 7>think of my soul in a sense.

464
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:14.240
<v Speaker 10>And so I got real sucked into it, and I

465
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 10>noticed some type of progression and but mixed with the medication,

466
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 10>it started messing with my mind. And so when I

467
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 10>came home, I wasn't the same person. It was like

468
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 10>I had severe psychosis. All my friends were like, dude,

469
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 10>what happened to you?

470
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:29.839
<v Speaker 7>You know what I mean?

471
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:31.519
<v Speaker 10>Like I just cause I was very I used to

472
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:34.000
<v Speaker 10>be real outgoing and really you know what I mean.

473
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 10>And so when I came back, I was shut down.

474
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 10>Back in the rehabit I started having sleep rouses and

475
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.480
<v Speaker 10>I would have There was one where like a devil

476
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.440
<v Speaker 10>appeared to me and the dream and basically told me

477
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 10>you can't you can't escape from me that easy. And

478
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 10>so I started having all these sleeprowses things. I started

479
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:55.200
<v Speaker 10>thinking that like demons were my friends. It just and

480
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 10>so at the same time, I'm getting into drugs more,

481
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 10>you know what I mean. I ended up getting on

482
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 10>probation when I was sixteen, So I come home at sixteen.

483
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 10>A couple months later, I get my first like legal trouble.

484
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.480
<v Speaker 10>It was all these things just piling up. And at

485
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:14.119
<v Speaker 10>that point it was like I was just over life,

486
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:18.119
<v Speaker 10>man Like it was like my one friend I thought

487
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 10>I had was gone.

488
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.559
<v Speaker 7>My everything was just terrible.

489
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.960
<v Speaker 10>And so one night I was sitting there and I

490
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 10>was just outside where I lived was like a house

491
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.160
<v Speaker 10>and it was a it was it was on the

492
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 10>Manassa's battlefield and Civil War land or whatever, and so

493
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:34.880
<v Speaker 10>we had the it was like a fence of the

494
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 10>Civil War post and then it was this big drop

495
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.920
<v Speaker 10>off cliff and then it was a river, like a

496
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 10>stream and then it was a river. And so one

497
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 10>night I was just like, yeah, I think I'm done,

498
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.400
<v Speaker 10>you know, like there was no emotion like I I

499
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:52.480
<v Speaker 10>there was no like, it was just I'm done. And

500
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 10>so I went inside and I got a microphone cord

501
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 10>tied around my neck, tied it to the Civil War post,

502
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 10>and just walked over to the you know, the edge

503
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 10>of the cliff and just stepped off, like didn't even

504
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 10>think about it.

505
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:05.200
<v Speaker 7>I just did it.

506
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 10>And as soon as the cord pulled and tightened, it

507
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:13.640
<v Speaker 10>was like my first thought.

508
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 7>Was like, oh man, what'd you do? Like this? This

509
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 7>wasn't the right move.

510
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:22.359
<v Speaker 10>And then next thing I know, I'm just it felt

511
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 10>like I was in some type of dream. And then

512
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 10>the dream, I'm freezing cold, but I can't move either.

513
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 10>So I'm in this like dream state where I'm not

514
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 10>conscious of what I did. It's like I'm somewhere else

515
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.200
<v Speaker 10>and I'm fighting and I can't move.

516
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 7>I'm cold, I feel like I'm in water. I don't

517
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 7>know what's going on. And then like my.

518
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.279
<v Speaker 10>Attention moves and it's like this little light is coming

519
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:49.160
<v Speaker 10>towards me, and so this light is moving towards me

520
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 10>next thing, I know, as it gets closer, I just

521
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.519
<v Speaker 10>found myself free, Like I just found myself like popping

522
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 10>up from the water and it all hit me what happened.

523
00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:59.799
<v Speaker 10>And I had fallen all the way into the water

524
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 10>and I climb up and like the crazy thing was

525
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.799
<v Speaker 10>it wasn't untied for my neck until that moment when

526
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.639
<v Speaker 10>I went to the top, I'm thinking it broke or

527
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 10>broke off.

528
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 7>It's still tied to the fence.

529
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 10>So I'm like, look, you know what I mean, I'm

530
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 10>looking at the length. It's double the length of the

531
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 10>fall and everything. It's still tied to both ends.

532
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.519
<v Speaker 7>How did this? But I mean I was wrecked.

533
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.079
<v Speaker 10>I mean I sat and just was just crying, just

534
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 10>sitting in the bathtub. It was a middle winter or so,

535
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.840
<v Speaker 10>I'm like sitting there freezing, And at that point that

536
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:29.840
<v Speaker 10>was a shift because I knew there was a God

537
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 10>at that point. I don't even know what happened or why,

538
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 10>but for whatever reason, at one of those points, I

539
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.920
<v Speaker 10>just started thinking about Jesus like he was my God,

540
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Speaker 10>Like I just you know what I mean, Like I

541
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:41.519
<v Speaker 10>just would talk about God and be like, yeah, Jesus.

542
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 7>And so when I got out of jail.

543
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 10>I was like, all right, we're going to do things

544
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 10>different this time, Josh, like this is you know, we're

545
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 10>in change. And so I started going to church and

546
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.920
<v Speaker 10>that was like it was real change because it was

547
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 10>just it was like this one day week I could

548
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.119
<v Speaker 10>be somebody else, you know what I mean. It's like

549
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:03.760
<v Speaker 10>Monday through Saturday like you're, you know, this drug addict

550
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 10>trying to clean up his life. But Sunday like you

551
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.320
<v Speaker 10>can be like you can go to this church, no

552
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:11.800
<v Speaker 10>one knows you and just like be like a normal person.

553
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 7>That's how it felt, and so I would go.

554
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:15.920
<v Speaker 10>So at this point, I don't have any friends, I

555
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 10>don't have not I have nothing, absolutely nothing. I didn't

556
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 10>have Costy with my daughter. I mean, it was just

557
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.400
<v Speaker 10>everything was gone. And so I was just you know,

558
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 10>sleeping sleeping in the woods I had. I was at

559
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 10>one of the you know, homeless camps and manassas and.

560
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:30.199
<v Speaker 7>And so.

561
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 10>I got a job at TGF Fridays and I was

562
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.880
<v Speaker 10>just sleeping in the woods behind Fridays, and so that's

563
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 10>what I did for a while. Mind you, this whole time,

564
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.360
<v Speaker 10>I'm crying out to Jesus like and this for anybody

565
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.320
<v Speaker 10>watching that like you feel like you're crying to Jesus

566
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 10>and he doesn't hear, Like I'm crying out to Jesus

567
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:48.800
<v Speaker 10>with all my heart. I'm all my way to get drugs,

568
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:51.000
<v Speaker 10>like please stop me, please like like help me help,

569
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.400
<v Speaker 10>Like my heart for a whole year was burning for

570
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.119
<v Speaker 10>Jesus to save me. I just couldn't do, like I

571
00:35:56.159 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 10>couldn't stop. So so you know, I'm doing that and

572
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 10>nothing was happening. And so one night I went to Eerie, Pennsylvania.

573
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:07.840
<v Speaker 10>While I'm homeless, my dad's like, hey, you want to

574
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 10>come and see your uncles and your grand My grandma

575
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 10>was sick at the time. I'm laying down to bed.

576
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 10>I'll never forget. I'm watching American Pickers. My uncle we

577
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 10>were sharing a bed, so he's lying next to me,

578
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 10>and I'm like falling asleep, and I start going into

579
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 10>sleep proussis. I'm like trying to fight it, like I

580
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 10>feel like something's going into my body.

581
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.519
<v Speaker 7>And at the same time, the TV, the voice the

582
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 7>guys are talking.

583
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 10>All of a sudden, their voices changed the demonic voices,

584
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 10>and they start talking about me and the one guy

585
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.920
<v Speaker 10>one so they're both of my voices. The one demon

586
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.039
<v Speaker 10>says the other one. He says, his name is Josh,

587
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 10>He's from Virginia. We have to destroy him. And I'm

588
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.920
<v Speaker 10>hearing this like this is not happening right now, but

589
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Speaker 10>I know it's happening, and I'm fighting. I still feel

590
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.000
<v Speaker 10>like something's trying to get in my body. I'm in

591
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 10>sleep proalyssis though, and next thing I know, I'm like

592
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 10>off the beds hearing myself screaming, wake up the whole house.

593
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:04.159
<v Speaker 10>My dad comes down, my Grandma's like what's going on?

594
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 10>And I'm like nothing, nothing, I don't know, you know,

595
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.119
<v Speaker 10>and I lay back down. But then all of a sudden,

596
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 10>I start something's telling me to kill my uncle. And

597
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 10>I'm laying there like what, Like something is really telling

598
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 10>me this right now. But I at the same time,

599
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 10>I'm telling myself, no, I don't need to do this,

600
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.679
<v Speaker 10>I don't want to do this. I'm talking myself out

601
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 10>doing I find myself getting up and doing it, like

602
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 10>going to do it, and someone telling me just crushed

603
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.800
<v Speaker 10>his head, like just just squeezing.

604
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 7>You know.

605
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.000
<v Speaker 10>And so I stand up and I'm standing over my

606
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.679
<v Speaker 10>uncle and he's sleeping, and I'm like trying to fight it.

607
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:44.159
<v Speaker 10>But I'm doing it, and so I'm like going towards

608
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.760
<v Speaker 10>his head and then he wakes up and he's like

609
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 10>and he looks up and sees me. He freaks out

610
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 10>and he's like, what the heck is what are you doing?

611
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 10>Like and he goes and sleeps like on another couch,

612
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:56.920
<v Speaker 10>and I end up falling asleep. So that happens. I

613
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 10>come back home. I'm back in the you know, my

614
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Speaker 10>homeless situation. And a week later I go and I'm

615
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:06.719
<v Speaker 10>these guys at the camp would smoke this stuff K

616
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.559
<v Speaker 10>two and I thought it was a joke. Like I

617
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 10>was like, there's no because they would lose their minds

618
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.039
<v Speaker 10>off this stuff. And I'm like, there's no way this

619
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.679
<v Speaker 10>stuff does that, and so they're like, just take one hit.

620
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.440
<v Speaker 10>And I took a couple of hits, like two or three,

621
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 10>and then next thing I know, I feel myself like overdosing, and.

622
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 7>I hear them say he's going out.

623
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 10>And when I fall out, like the last thing, I

624
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 10>remember just falling out and crawling towards my tent and

625
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:35.199
<v Speaker 10>then it was just I was gone.

626
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.159
<v Speaker 7>And next thing I knew, I'm in a hallway and

627
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 7>in the hallway there.

628
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 10>Was demons on my left side and demons on my

629
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:43.400
<v Speaker 10>right side.

630
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:44.960
<v Speaker 7>They all had these like weird little.

631
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:49.480
<v Speaker 10>Robes and they were like short ish and just ugly,

632
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 10>like what you would see in a movie, like these

633
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:54.480
<v Speaker 10>hideous like laughing. They thought it was like they were

634
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 10>all laughing, like there was some inside.

635
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 7>Joke I was unaware of.

636
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.400
<v Speaker 10>It was just it was it was weird, but I

637
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 10>wasn't really scared. I was just so confused, like where

638
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 10>am I? And I'm following one and as I'm following it,

639
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.599
<v Speaker 10>we're walking up to this big door and I'm just

640
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:10.519
<v Speaker 10>walking towards the door, like what is going on?

641
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:11.079
<v Speaker 7>Where am I?

642
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:13.960
<v Speaker 10>And then it says to me. The one in front

643
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.519
<v Speaker 10>of me had its hood up and it said one

644
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:19.199
<v Speaker 10>more step, You're almost there. And when it says that,

645
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 10>it turns around, it has this big smile and it

646
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 10>all clicked, Like what was going on? I said, oh,

647
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 10>hell no?

648
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:28.000
<v Speaker 7>I and I turned around, and when I turned around,

649
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:28.559
<v Speaker 7>I woke.

650
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 10>Up and back on my tent and I was just

651
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.719
<v Speaker 10>like soaking wet and sweat, and so at this point

652
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:38.159
<v Speaker 10>I'm like, I was like that was almost it, Like

653
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 10>I was about to go to hell, I think, you know,

654
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 10>And it scared me because at this point I had

655
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 10>faith in Jesus, like I believed him, but he just

656
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:46.800
<v Speaker 10>wasn't showing up for me.

657
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 7>So I kind of felt like there's nothing I can

658
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:49.960
<v Speaker 7>do about it. You know.

659
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.920
<v Speaker 10>Fast forward like another week and I'm at work one

660
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 10>night and this lady comes up to me and she says, hey,

661
00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 10>God says you need to see him, and I'm like, yeah,

662
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:01.960
<v Speaker 10>I know, he needs to see me, you know, like

663
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:03.519
<v Speaker 10>how do we get in contact?

664
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:04.119
<v Speaker 2>You know.

665
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 10>So, like the next day or two or something, I

666
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.880
<v Speaker 10>go to this AA meeting and I'm sitting in the meeting.

667
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 10>I'm like, something just pulled me to go to the

668
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.039
<v Speaker 10>chapel of the church. And so I go and I

669
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:17.519
<v Speaker 10>stand in the altar and I say, hey, here I

670
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.199
<v Speaker 10>am God, like here I came to see you.

671
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.039
<v Speaker 7>Like what's going on? And you know, nothing really happened.

672
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:24.639
<v Speaker 10>So but I sit down and I just open a

673
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.920
<v Speaker 10>Bible Russian Roulette, and I just read the page and

674
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:28.280
<v Speaker 10>that's it.

675
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 7>Go home or back to my tent.

676
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 10>And a week later, I do the exact same thing,

677
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:36.360
<v Speaker 10>the exact same place, the exact same way, and I

678
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 10>read and while I'm reading, I get halfway through I'm like,

679
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:41.480
<v Speaker 10>i've read this before. Well it's the exact same thing

680
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.840
<v Speaker 10>I read the week before or saw I'm eighteen, and

681
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 10>so that really like hit me where I was like,

682
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:49.920
<v Speaker 10>that's crazy, Like I can't explain this is you know

683
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:54.800
<v Speaker 10>what I mean. So at this time, it's like I

684
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:59.079
<v Speaker 10>feel like my life is coming to an end. There

685
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.239
<v Speaker 10>was just like the feeling of like this can't go

686
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 10>on anymore. It just can't. Like something's got to give.

687
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Speaker 10>Either I'm gonna die or something's gonna change. And I

688
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 10>was dating this girl at the time who was like

689
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 10>really trying. Her mom would always talk to me about

690
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.480
<v Speaker 10>God and was, you know, be supportive of me or

691
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:19.920
<v Speaker 10>try to be and she was trying to get me

692
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 10>to go to a rehab and so I'm like, I'm

693
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 10>gonna go.

694
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:23.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna go.

695
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 10>And so there was this one night where I was like,

696
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:28.119
<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna go the next day. And so what I

697
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 10>did is I got some dope and I hadn't done

698
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 10>that for like three months, and so I get it,

699
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 10>and I'm like this my last time. And so when

700
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.000
<v Speaker 10>I get it, I'm like the amount that I had

701
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:43.199
<v Speaker 10>was it was too much to do all at once.

702
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 10>But it wasn't enough to do twice, you know what

703
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 10>I mean? And I just I was reminded me of

704
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 10>where I was in twenty twelve. I just didn't care,

705
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.400
<v Speaker 10>like I was, just like, you know what, I don't

706
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 10>even care if I die, then I die. And so

707
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 10>what I did, man, is I put it all in there,

708
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.239
<v Speaker 10>and I had this moment with God that was so sincere,

709
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:11.039
<v Speaker 10>and everything got quiet, and I said, Jesus, I don't

710
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:14.360
<v Speaker 10>know what you want from me. I said, this is

711
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:16.280
<v Speaker 10>all I know. I'm looking at these drugs. I'm like,

712
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:19.920
<v Speaker 10>this is all I know. Like what do you expect

713
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.039
<v Speaker 10>from me? Like I've called on your name, I've done

714
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.519
<v Speaker 10>all the things. This is all I know. And so

715
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:26.480
<v Speaker 10>I started loading up the needle and while I was

716
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.239
<v Speaker 10>putting it on my arm, everything I said the Lord's prayer,

717
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.079
<v Speaker 10>I said, our Father, who aren't heaven? And while I'm

718
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:34.559
<v Speaker 10>doing it, and at the end, I said forgive me.

719
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 10>And I just did it because like I knew, I'm

720
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 10>going to overdose. And as soon as I did it,

721
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.119
<v Speaker 10>my guess, my body went into fight mode where it's

722
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 10>like you're going to overdose. And I said, get up

723
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:46.719
<v Speaker 10>and run, and so I got I jumped straight up

724
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:49.639
<v Speaker 10>and went to run out the door, and next thing

725
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 10>I know, I'm an ambulance and so I'm waking up

726
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.000
<v Speaker 10>in the ambulance like, oh no, like because I have

727
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:57.000
<v Speaker 10>these charges, I'm out on two bonds, I have eight

728
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 10>years of my head like, and.

729
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 7>They're like, all right, your revived, Like do you want

730
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:02.239
<v Speaker 7>to go to the hospital.

731
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:03.559
<v Speaker 10>I said no, get me out here. And when I

732
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 10>went to leave, the cop was like, all right, now

733
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.599
<v Speaker 10>you can come to jail. And so I'm like, man,

734
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 10>and I was, you know, I was so frustrated with

735
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 10>the cop because I'm like, dude, like, look what just happened, man, Like,

736
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:13.880
<v Speaker 10>I don't need this right now, you know, like you're

737
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.960
<v Speaker 10>gonna ruin my life. And uh, he saved it. I

738
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 10>guess he played a part in saving it. But he

739
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 10>takes me to jail, and you know, I said some

740
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 10>of the cop like you should just.

741
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.280
<v Speaker 7>Let me die, like why'd you revive me? Man like?

742
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.760
<v Speaker 10>And he said, oh, you're suicidal. So he said he's like,

743
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:31.719
<v Speaker 10>we're gonna put you on suicide watch. So they put

744
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:33.679
<v Speaker 10>me in the suicide watch, which it just makes the

745
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 10>jail experience fifty times worse because they take you don't blankets,

746
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.880
<v Speaker 10>you don't get the food that anyone else will get.

747
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:42.920
<v Speaker 10>You can't have like they put your juice and milk

748
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 10>in a bag. You can't have that because you might

749
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.480
<v Speaker 10>try to swamp. Like they just they take everything from me,

750
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 10>and they put this big oven min it's like the

751
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 10>oven mint material over you. So anyways, I'm in the cell,

752
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:56.280
<v Speaker 10>I'm going through withdrawals and I think my life's over.

753
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 7>I get one phone call.

754
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 10>My mom's ball in her eyes out saying you almost

755
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.360
<v Speaker 10>died again. This was like my six overdose, you know,

756
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 10>And she's just like, you almost died again?

757
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:07.079
<v Speaker 7>Are you happy?

758
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:10.599
<v Speaker 10>And that was the call I got, you know that

759
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 10>that and everything hit me. It was like my whole

760
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 10>life hit me, like you you really ruined your life,

761
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 10>like you made a complete mess of your life. And

762
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.079
<v Speaker 10>it was real sobering because there was no more like

763
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:31.639
<v Speaker 10>fighting me.

764
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.239
<v Speaker 7>Like I was just like it's done, You're done.

765
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 10>And you know, I'm like I'm gonna I'm gonna be

766
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:39.760
<v Speaker 10>lucky if I do three years in prison, you know

767
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.719
<v Speaker 10>what I mean, Like that would be a blessing. And

768
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 10>you know you're you're not a good dad, your daughter,

769
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:48.639
<v Speaker 10>You're not there for your dag, like all that stuff's

770
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:52.800
<v Speaker 10>hit me. And so for five days, I was just

771
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:56.079
<v Speaker 10>crying out to Jesus, like bro. The only prayer I

772
00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:57.679
<v Speaker 10>knew it was a center prayer for me, you know,

773
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.400
<v Speaker 10>being baptized. And that's what I did for five days.

774
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:03.000
<v Speaker 10>That's all I said. And it was like every time

775
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 10>I said it, I'd feel like this two percent increase

776
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 10>of like hope or something.

777
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 7>I don't you know what I mean.

778
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 10>And it was like this mantra or something, and I

779
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:11.920
<v Speaker 10>was like obsessively saying it over and over and over

780
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.199
<v Speaker 10>and over. But I remember I said, God, if you

781
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 10>get me out of this said, I said, I just

782
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:17.239
<v Speaker 10>want to be a good boy.

783
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:19.559
<v Speaker 7>Like that's it. I just want to be a good boy.

784
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:21.719
<v Speaker 7>And so I go to the pod.

785
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.199
<v Speaker 10>I'm sitting there and I'm like, I can't do this

786
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 10>again there and I heard there was a Christian program.

787
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 10>So I go to the I sign up to go,

788
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.199
<v Speaker 10>and everyone's telling me not to go. I'm like, I

789
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 10>don't care, man, like I need a change. So I

790
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 10>go to the program and within the first week I

791
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 10>was about to leave because they would wake.

792
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 7>You up early.

793
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 10>There was all these like rules and they would stay

794
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:43.079
<v Speaker 10>up at night like, and they would like before bedtime,

795
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:44.199
<v Speaker 10>everyone would pray and read buy It.

796
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 7>And I'm like this place is crazy.

797
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 10>You know, Like I was like, this is a cult,

798
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 10>you know, like I just wanted some God, but I

799
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.840
<v Speaker 10>don't want this. And so I was about to leave actually,

800
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.440
<v Speaker 10>and one of my friends that I knew there was like, man,

801
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 10>just give it some time, you know, trust me. And

802
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:00.199
<v Speaker 10>then all of a sudden, I hear this voice one

803
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.800
<v Speaker 10>day say why don't you just try? It wasn't me,

804
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.239
<v Speaker 10>something said why don't you just try? And I said,

805
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:10.239
<v Speaker 10>all right, you know what, I'm gonna try.

806
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 7>What I have to lose.

807
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.880
<v Speaker 10>So the funny thing is that like right after that,

808
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 10>they had this time of day where everyone had to

809
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 10>be on their bunks but you couldn't sleep, so it's

810
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 10>like you had to read your Bible to do something.

811
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.960
<v Speaker 10>And I was like the kid was this guy, my bunkie,

812
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:27.679
<v Speaker 10>was like, you want a Bible? And I was like sure,

813
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 10>So he went and got me a Bible and so

814
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:31.280
<v Speaker 10>I opened up What do you think I opened to

815
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:34.760
<v Speaker 10>SAWM eighteen, same thing I had read in the thing.

816
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 10>So now I'm kind of hooked, like this this is

817
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:41.000
<v Speaker 10>too crazy. So basically what happens. Over the next week

818
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.880
<v Speaker 10>or two. I started listening when speakers would come in,

819
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:47.880
<v Speaker 10>I'd read my Bible. I was like genuinely trying. And

820
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.840
<v Speaker 10>then all of a sudden, one day there was no

821
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 10>moment I didn't feel God's presence. I didn't nothing happened.

822
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 10>I just looked up one day and I wasn't the same.

823
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.599
<v Speaker 10>Like I'd be in conversations with people talking about women

824
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:05.480
<v Speaker 10>or drugs, and I would feel like this, like uh

825
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.559
<v Speaker 10>like turn like and I would be like, all right,

826
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:10.440
<v Speaker 10>y'all have fun with this. And I'd go to my

827
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.519
<v Speaker 10>bunk and read my Bible. And I found that, like

828
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.000
<v Speaker 10>the more I did, every time I would call on Jesus,

829
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:18.400
<v Speaker 10>I would feel joy, like I'd feel his presence and

830
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:22.679
<v Speaker 10>it would just kept growing and growing. And at this time,

831
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:26.960
<v Speaker 10>I'm like, I don't even care if I'm doing time whatever,

832
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.840
<v Speaker 10>because now I had found Jesus. Like I'm so intrigued

833
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 10>and like consumed with Jesus and like this is a good.

834
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:36.800
<v Speaker 10>I can't think of the word right now, but this

835
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 10>is a good. Gives a good idea illustration of like

836
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 10>the difference. When I got there, I wanted to leave.

837
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:44.119
<v Speaker 7>Because they would read the Bible and stuff.

838
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 10>Like by the time I left the program, I was

839
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:48.960
<v Speaker 10>literally walking around all day trying to pray for everyone.

840
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:51.159
<v Speaker 7>Like you know what I mean. People are getting annoyed me.

841
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:53.119
<v Speaker 7>They're like, dude, we're Jesus out today, and I'm like,

842
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 7>what do you mean? Like you know what I mean?

843
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 10>So so like that's that's like shows like how serious

844
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.760
<v Speaker 10>this transition was. Like there would be break time and I,

845
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:05.039
<v Speaker 10>me and this other guy would be in the the

846
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.039
<v Speaker 10>the rumor they could go to play sports or whatever,

847
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<v Speaker 10>and we would just be worshiping, and like you know

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<v Speaker 10>what I mean, we'd look up. We'd be in our

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<v Speaker 10>own worlds and we'd look up and it's like all

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<v Speaker 10>other inmates from other pods like looking at like we're

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<v Speaker 10>you know, we're in there.

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<v Speaker 7>One dude's crying, I'm laughing, like and so I remember

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<v Speaker 7>being like, God, you know I don't you don't owe

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<v Speaker 7>me anything like this. I did this to myself. Thanks

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<v Speaker 7>for saving me.

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<v Speaker 10>And I told him, I said, but if you do

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<v Speaker 10>get me out of here, I said, I'm gonna lay

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<v Speaker 10>hands on every person I see, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 7>Gonna preach the gospel. Le's like I was like I

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<v Speaker 7>owe you everything, So I mean, that's I guess in

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<v Speaker 7>a nutshell my testimony.

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<v Speaker 2>Then into thank me, do you thank, and do thank

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<v Speaker 2>and do thank me the bum thank into
