1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Our article today is from the Sun headline Maxwell Murder. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,359 Gilan Maxwell believes disgraced tycoon Dad Robert was murdered after 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,880 he was found drowned. Her brother reveals this article was 4 00:00:14,919 --> 00:00:19,640 authored by M. L. Nestle. Well, look, this is something 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,120 you're not gonna you haven't heard very often on the podcast. 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,960 I actually agree with Gelan Maxwell. What do you know? 7 00:00:27,239 --> 00:00:30,839 The Lady of complain is onto something here? I think 8 00:00:30,879 --> 00:00:33,679 because I don't think her dad fell off the boat 9 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:37,399 having a whiz. Come on, man, somebody like that just 10 00:00:37,439 --> 00:00:42,159 gets up there. He's out there, completely ass naked, middle 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,320 of the water, Canary off the Canary Islands, having a 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,079 whiz off the side of the boat, and it just 13 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:51,719 happens to fall in. Okay, oh all right, sure, I 14 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:54,520 guess that's what you want me to believe. But I 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,719 don't believe that. Okay. Now, I don't know what happened 16 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:02,320 with me Maxwell, who could have been involved, if anyone 17 00:01:02,439 --> 00:01:06,519 was involved, but the official narrative certainly hard for me 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,040 to believe that official narrative. So it is not often 19 00:01:10,079 --> 00:01:14,359 you'll see me aligned with old Lady of Complain, But 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,799 here we are, I guess because I don't think Robert 21 00:01:17,799 --> 00:01:26,799 Maxwell fell off that boat. Either Gilain Maxwell's suspects, your 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,480 media mogul father was assassinated after he drowned off the 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,319 coast of Morocco thirty years ago. Gilaine, uniquely in our family, 24 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,840 has always thought he was murdered, and she's alone in that. 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,680 But it's her profound conviction and that is what happened, 26 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,680 said Ian Maxwell, older brother of the fifty nine year 27 00:01:46,719 --> 00:01:50,799 old accused madam to the late billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, 28 00:01:51,079 --> 00:01:56,599 during an appearance in a television documentary, accused madam. So 29 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,159 we're still on that even in the sun. All right, well, 30 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:02,040 let me correct that for you. How about general all 31 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:07,480 around scusbag. How about fellow child abuser and how about 32 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:10,199 bipedal serpent? How about we go with that instead? What 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:16,039 do you think? And Ian Maxwell is putting on the 34 00:02:16,039 --> 00:02:20,319 full court press, right, this dude is going to the 35 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:26,680 nines for his sister. Imagine going that far for your sister, 36 00:02:26,879 --> 00:02:29,639 somebody you didn't really even have contact with, according to him, 37 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,400 throughout this whole time period, and truly believing that she's 38 00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:38,080 not guilty of any of these charges, even in the 39 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,520 face of all of this evidence. I know team Maxwell 40 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,680 keeps talking about all this evidence that they have, but 41 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,960 I haven't seen any of it, have you? Words are 42 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:53,400 wind right. So unless you have some evidence, circumstantial evidence, 43 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:56,680 even to bring to the table and present to everybody, 44 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,560 you're going to continue to look like a jerk offie 45 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:05,360 in Maxwell may point blank period, A little American candor 46 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,360 there for you, Pal, You're looking like quite the jerk 47 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:18,680 off right now. Mountains of evidence, testimony, eyewitness statements all 48 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:24,919 pointed directly at your sister, And what do you have 49 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:29,199 for us? Words and guesses and this and that and 50 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:39,159 nobody believes you? How about that? The siblings shared his 51 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,240 thoughts on the loss of their father, his fortune, and 52 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,800 undivided support for his young sister in the twenty twenty 53 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:51,840 documentary Notorious Gelane Maxwell. Now, there's a relatively long article 54 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,199 from ABC News about this interview, and I'm going to 55 00:03:57,319 --> 00:04:01,039 dive into that and start recording it. I'm not sure 56 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,639 when i'll finish. Like I said, it's a relatively long article, 57 00:04:05,159 --> 00:04:10,639 but I'm hoping by uh, I don't know, maybe Monday 58 00:04:10,759 --> 00:04:12,759 or so to have the whole thing complete. Then I 59 00:04:12,759 --> 00:04:17,199 can just pump it out real quick. But it was 60 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,920 a good interview. I mean, it was a decent show 61 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,720 twenty twenty last night, some some good parts of it. 62 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:26,079 I won't spoil it too much in case you haven't 63 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:29,120 watched it yet. Like with the Geeland, Maxwell want to 64 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,000 give it over the weekend or so so that you 65 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,839 folks have a chance to check it out. But it 66 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:41,560 was a decent addition by ABC to the portfolio, right. 67 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:47,319 It was Again I appreciate the fact that there's information 68 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:50,759 going out there into the mainstream about the case. I 69 00:04:50,959 --> 00:04:55,720 just wish those who were bringing the message weren't people 70 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:02,199 like ABC or Peacock, right. I really wish that there 71 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:07,800 was an independent content creator or independent investigative journalist who 72 00:05:07,879 --> 00:05:11,800 had the resources to really make a proper documentary on 73 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:19,480 all of this. Maxwell had been out on the high 74 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:23,360 seas aboard his yacht, aptly named Lady Gee Laine, navigating 75 00:05:23,399 --> 00:05:27,800 around the Spanish Archipelago archipelago, just nine months after he 76 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:31,120 purchased The New York Daily News. So nine months after 77 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,560 purchasing The Daily News, he's out there having himself a 78 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:38,600 nice float on his yacht, living the life, probably in 79 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:42,720 all kinds of fucking food and sloppy rubbing his hands 80 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,800 all over his pants. You know how these slobsters are. 81 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,720 So he's floating around, decides he's gonna wake up in 82 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,360 the middle of the night. Oh, I have to go 83 00:05:51,399 --> 00:05:53,639 to the bathroom. This is the official narrative, by the way, 84 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,879 Oh I have to go to the bathroom. So I'm 85 00:05:55,879 --> 00:05:59,920 gonna trapes up middle of the ocean, go up onto 86 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:04,439 the deck and stand on the railing drop trow or 87 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,160 in his case, just walk up there because I guess 88 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:11,839 he was naked, and have a leak. Does that sound 89 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,560 like something someone does in the middle of the night. 90 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,959 I mean, I know when I get up to go 91 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,519 to the bathroom, I'm single minded in my purpose, Folks. 92 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:21,279 I'm not looking to go have an adventure up on 93 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:23,959 the deck of his ship. We're going to have a leak. 94 00:06:24,519 --> 00:06:28,959 I'm going back to bed. This guy woke up in 95 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,519 the middle of the night and thought, oh, I'm gonna 96 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,959 go do some star gazing while I have a pee. 97 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:38,199 Doesn't make sense to me. And now I'm not saying 98 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,519 that that definitely didn't happen, right, I'm not saying he 99 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,600 didn't fall off the boat. I'm saying to me and 100 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,680 with my spidey sense, it does not ring true, a 101 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,199 guy like that doesn't just fall off of a boat, 102 00:06:51,199 --> 00:06:57,040 in my opinion, folks, On the morning of November fifth, 103 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,800 nineteen ninety one, Maxwell was missing and the crew suspected 104 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:05,240 he died after falling overboard. According to ABC News, his 105 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,240 body was discovered by authorities floating in the water. I mean, 106 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:12,319 this guy was so foul, such a foul human being, 107 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:16,959 such a disgusting human being, that even the aquatic wildlife 108 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,000 didn't want to have a bite. Didn't get eaten by 109 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,399 a shark, didn't get munched on by a barracuda, a 110 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,839 giant squid, didn't come up and snatch his body down 111 00:07:27,879 --> 00:07:32,560 to the depths, none of that. This stank ass gross 112 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,279 mf was such a grody person, such a disgusting individual, 113 00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:44,439 that even scavengers of the sea wanted nothing to do 114 00:07:44,519 --> 00:07:50,399 with him. The official cause of her father's death was 115 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:53,519 a heart attack and drowning, but there were theories his 116 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,360 death wasn't an accident or a suicide. It was soon 117 00:07:57,439 --> 00:08:00,879 learned Maxwell had squandered a fortune by miss using employee 118 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:04,040 pension funds in the UK to keep his publishing and 119 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,959 media businesses afloat. The Outlet reported, Yeah, just a quality guy, right. 120 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,680 I mean, who what sort of a human being steals 121 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,040 from pensions, from their employees, steals from the very people 122 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,639 who helped make your company what it is? Talk about 123 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:27,480 scumbag level epic. These people that steal from their employees, 124 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,399 that embezzle money from hard working folks who are just 125 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,480 trying to set themselves a right for the future. Those 126 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,240 people are right up there with some of the biggest 127 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:44,679 scumbags in the world folks. Okay, and Robert Maxwell and 128 00:08:44,759 --> 00:08:47,600 his family, they were They loved to play that game, 129 00:08:47,639 --> 00:08:54,240 didn't they. Two of his sons, Kevin and Ian Maxwell 130 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,279 himself were brought up on fraud charges tied to their 131 00:08:57,279 --> 00:09:00,759 father's pension money scam, but ended up getting quitted and 132 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,720 absolved of any wrongdoing. ABC News reported, I mean, I 133 00:09:04,759 --> 00:09:07,399 guess when you have contacts, you got money, you got 134 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,279 dough you know people easy to get acquitted, huh, easy 135 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:17,000 to walk, easy to beat that rap. And the Maxwells 136 00:09:17,039 --> 00:09:20,039 certainly knew people, didn't they. They certainly had some power 137 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,960 and they certainly had the ability to beat the rap. 138 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,279 That's why I don't think Robert Maxwell killed himself either. 139 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:29,879 You really think he would have went down for that. 140 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,360 All the people he knew. Think about the current climate 141 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,240 back then, you really think Maxwell was going to prison? 142 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,480 I highly doubt it. Folks Now, could he have rated 143 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,840 on somebody or talked about something he knows? Of course, 144 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:49,960 and considering he was under these charges and people knew 145 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,799 that things were about to go south for him, maybe 146 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:55,360 they wanted to cut ties. Maybe they wanted to burn 147 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,559 all associations. Because we know in that world, the world 148 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:06,679 of spycraft, the world of assets, the world of compremont, 149 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,559 is filled with stories of assets being burned when they 150 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,360 have outlived their usefulness. So why should this be any difference? 151 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:21,080 In this case, the family's business collapsed and the financial 152 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,879 devastation uprooted them from their Oxford, England home, while a 153 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,639 fire sale of his valuables took place. Months after she 154 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:34,080 became fatherless, Gelaane was photographed by at London's Heathrow Airport 155 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,799 with New York City prep school teacher turned businessman Jeffrey Epstein, 156 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:47,480 businessman turned pedophile, born pedophile, born sick, born, broken, born disgusting. 157 00:10:49,799 --> 00:10:53,879 Glaine Maxwell admitted in twenty sixteen at a deposition that 158 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,879 she and Epstein were introduced by a mutual friend. The 159 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,200 pair carried on a love affair, and she they had 160 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,080 a close bond for several years. I don't buy that. Again, 161 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:05,600 I've said that several times. I don't believe there was 162 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,279 ever any love between these two where they romantically involved. 163 00:11:10,519 --> 00:11:14,840 I don't know. Maybe, honestly, I have no idea. But 164 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:17,559 the fact that anyone would try and sell me some 165 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,919 bs that Maxwell and Epstein were in love or they 166 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,480 were really dating, is laughable. At best. They were assets 167 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,639 doing their thing. That's what they were doing. They were 168 00:11:27,639 --> 00:11:30,720 playing a game, and they were playing the grand game, 169 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:37,720 folks Ian. Maxwell noted that he had met Epstein, but 170 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:40,519 stressed he lacked any knowledge of their life or life 171 00:11:40,519 --> 00:11:43,679 that Elaine was leading at the time, in any great detail. 172 00:11:44,039 --> 00:11:46,279 Well then, how would you know what she's doing? How 173 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:50,320 can you be so confident that she wasn't doing what 174 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,799 she's being accused of. You didn't know about her life. 175 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,720 You weren't hanging out with her, You didn't know Epstein. 176 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,159 You weren't running around in New York, were you. I 177 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:01,840 and Maxwell? So basically you and I know about as 178 00:12:01,919 --> 00:12:08,519 much about what was going on in Geelang's life as 179 00:12:08,639 --> 00:12:11,279 anyone then, right, Because I know as much as you. 180 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:17,279 You weren't there, You don't know. So how could he 181 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,080 sit there and act like he has any idea when 182 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,840 he himself admits that he had no idea. He wasn't 183 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:25,200 around then, he wasn't part of her life. He had 184 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:30,480 no idea what she was up to. That life was 185 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:36,240 allegedly fast, luxurious, and allegedly criminal. Maxwell is facing sex 186 00:12:36,279 --> 00:12:39,840 trafficking charges for recruiting and grooming young girls for her 187 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,320 former lover Epstein sixty six, who was found dead in 188 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,120 his Manhattan jail cell in twenty nineteen after being held 189 00:12:47,159 --> 00:12:50,600 on his own sex trafficking rap Ian said he and 190 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:54,639 his family believe in their younger sister's innocence. They also 191 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,360 suggest she is the victim of a Svengali in Epstein. 192 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,679 Oh and there you go. That's going to be the position, folks. 193 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,960 Get ready for it. I know it's going to make 194 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,879 a lot of you sick, but get ready for it. 195 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,320 They're going to try and paint her as a victim, 196 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,600 as somebody who was victimized by Epstein and somebody who 197 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,919 had Stockholm syndrome. Basically, that's going to be their argument. 198 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,759 That's going to be their defense. And you could already 199 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:26,320 see it. Forming Epstein is dead, he said in the 200 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,559 twenty twenty interview The Crimes. He was then indicted within 201 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:34,840 twenty nineteen. He never faced. But Gilaine is not Epstein. No, 202 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,080 you're right. She's a co conspirator, fellow boss, ran her 203 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:43,080 own crew, the Core four, and was involved in grooming, and, 204 00:13:43,159 --> 00:13:48,039 according to the survivors, abuse herself. So no, she's not Epstein, 205 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:56,200 but she's the same. He suggests that once the facts 206 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,360 see daylight, the public will know the truth. Oh, okay, 207 00:13:59,399 --> 00:14:01,559 sure they will. What are you waiting for? Ian? What 208 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:04,399 are you waiting for? If you guys had a bombshell, 209 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,320 if you guys had something that could turn public opinion, 210 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,080 you'd use it. You do not have anything, okay, And 211 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:15,960 all of your attempts to manufacture something have been due too. 212 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,039 So here you are with nothing left to do but 213 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,639 give interviews and talk about evidence that nobody has seen. 214 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:27,679 Has anybody seen it? Have you provided it to anybody? 215 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:33,600 Ian Maxwell, They've never heard the defense to all of this, 216 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,720 He said, these are very serious charges, But at the 217 00:14:36,759 --> 00:14:39,799 same time, I also thought, this is not my sister. 218 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,159 She could not have possibly be involved in this kind 219 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,440 of activity. How would you know you were never there, 220 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:50,360 So how do you know Just because someone is your 221 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,120 sister or your family doesn't mean that they're not capable 222 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,799 of these sorts of crimes. And for Ian Maxwell to 223 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,279 say here and act like he knows for a fact, boy, 224 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:10,120 that's a bold strategy. Cotton, the brother, mocked the overkill 225 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,960 raid on his siblings New Hampshire country home last summer. 226 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:17,759 When the woman was brought into custody. She's arrested with hooplah, 227 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,879 with helicopters and the FBI running around. It's pure prejudice, 228 00:15:21,919 --> 00:15:24,840 he said, Ian Maxwell. I don't know if you know 229 00:15:24,919 --> 00:15:26,799 this or not, but that's how raids work in the 230 00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:32,000 United States. The FBI shows up ready to rock, helicopters, tanks, 231 00:15:32,039 --> 00:15:35,799 the whole thing. All right, that's what the FBI does. 232 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,519 And frankly, your sister got off easy. Have you ever 233 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:41,480 seen the way they like to raid people in the 234 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:49,960 inner cities? Ever hear of no knock warrants? Ian Maxwell, 235 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,639 and all of these people that run around with the 236 00:15:52,679 --> 00:15:56,360 so called elite are so out of touch with the 237 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:01,919 rest of us. She remains that Metropolitan Detention Center in 238 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:08,039 Brooklyn while awaiting trial. The former socialite general all around 239 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:12,440 scusbeg and philanthropist has pleaded not guilty to the federal 240 00:16:12,559 --> 00:16:17,200 charges lodged against her. So there you have it, folks 241 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:21,399 Ian Maxwell. He's telling us that there is evidence we 242 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,320 don't know about, and his sister's gonna be innocent. Meanwhile, 243 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,879 the rest of the world sitting around saying to themselves, 244 00:16:28,879 --> 00:16:32,360 if you got it, you show it to us, because 245 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:36,360 without any evidence, without any bombshells that nobody knows about 246 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:42,279 your sister, my friend is going to be a state, 247 00:16:42,759 --> 00:16:46,240 i mean, a guest of the state for quite some time. 248 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,279 And all the loopholes, all the technicalities, all the crying 249 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:57,639 in the world can't stop the Karma train from reaching 250 00:16:57,679 --> 00:17:01,399 its destination. If you'd like to contact me, you can 251 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,000 do that at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. 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