Speaker 1: I'm Deels.
Speaker 2: So we're continuing to talk about the ruling of the
Speaker 2: new the interim temporary Secret Service Director in Congress yesterday.
Speaker 2: And I also want to incorporate because if I didn't
Speaker 2: incorporate some of these comments by a former President Trump.
Speaker 2: He was speaking to a group of black journalists in
Speaker 2: Chicago and he was invited to attend, and to his credit,
Speaker 2: he took the He took the invitation and he appeared
Speaker 2: in person. I think there was one point where he
Speaker 2: said that I think what he said was that that
Speaker 2: the Democratic again, the Democratic soon to be nominee Vice
Speaker 2: President Harris had agreed to do it on zoom and
Speaker 2: he got some tough questions today and I thought his
Speaker 2: responses were really dumb. I don't know how else to
Speaker 2: describe them. Because when you when you open your mouth
Speaker 2: and you say things that you that clearly are going
Speaker 2: to hurt your cause, whatever that cause is, I think
Speaker 2: you're being dumb. I want to have play a different
Speaker 2: sound bite. This is from his appearance today with the
Speaker 2: Black Journalists cut in Chicago. This is cut Sea and
Speaker 2: I believe that this is ABC's Rachel Scott asking a second,
Speaker 2: well another question of Donald Trump cuts, c rub.
Speaker 3: How do you define the go ahead?
Speaker 2: How do you define diversity? Equity inclusion?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, go ahead?
Speaker 3: Is that what your definition?
Speaker 2: That is?
Speaker 5: That is?
Speaker 6: Give me a definition?
Speaker 2: Then would you give me a definition? Give me a definition.
Speaker 2: So I'm asking you a question. Define it from me.
Speaker 2: I just defined it, sir. Do you believe that Vice
Speaker 2: President Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is.
Speaker 4: A black woman?
Speaker 7: Well, I can say no.
Speaker 2: I think it's maybe a little bit different.
Speaker 3: And so I've known her a long time, indirectly, not
Speaker 3: directly very much, and she was always of Indian heritage
Speaker 3: and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know
Speaker 3: she was black until a number of years ago when.
Speaker 2: She happened to turn black.
Speaker 3: And now she wants to be known as black. So
Speaker 3: I don't know is she Indian or.
Speaker 2: Is she black?
Speaker 1: She is always.
Speaker 2: College.
Speaker 3: I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because she
Speaker 3: was Indian all the way and then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden she made a turn and she went she became
Speaker 3: a black. I think somebody should look into that too.
Speaker 3: When you ask a continue in a very hostile, nasty.
Speaker 2: Town, it's uh yeah, probably pulled a lot of people
Speaker 2: over to say, insane, insane to uh to engage in
Speaker 2: that sort of conversations. Again, if you're going to go somewhere,
Speaker 2: be polite, deal with whatever the tough questions are, and
Speaker 2: come leave, hopefully with people having some grudging respect for
Speaker 2: your demeanor and your effort to answer questions. Honestly, let's
Speaker 2: go to back to the call. It's gonna go to
Speaker 2: Frank and Boston. Frank, you're next time, nightside, Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I'm not I think the Secret Service might
Speaker 8: have made a mistake because of.
Speaker 4: I'm inexperience. They do not really have an experience with shopshooters.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they and agents in that sight
Speaker 4: may have thought to a certain extent, maybe less. I'm
Speaker 4: not sure that there's no way this guy could end
Speaker 4: up hitting anybody from that distance. Yes's a distance, that's
Speaker 4: a that's more than a football field.
Speaker 2: It is more than a football field. But have you
Speaker 2: ever shot a rifle at that distance?
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying the guy. I don't think they thought
Speaker 4: the average guy couldn't do that well.
Speaker 2: First, if they don't necessarily always have to deal with
Speaker 2: the average guy. But you have a rifle with the scope.
Speaker 2: That is not a tough shot. That is not a
Speaker 2: tough shot. It really isn't.
Speaker 4: Well well, I think the average shooters of these different
Speaker 4: presidents in the past have been close counters, close encounters.
Speaker 4: I think that the only one was Oswald. And there
Speaker 4: was a lady who tried to kill Ford.
Speaker 2: There were two of them actually, Sarah Jane Moore and
Speaker 2: and Squeaky Frome, one of the Manson family members, both
Speaker 2: took the shots at Gerald Ford in the same city,
Speaker 2: San Francisco, on different dates in November I believe was
Speaker 2: of nineteen ninety four, or it would have been November
Speaker 2: ninety four, ninety five, and they missed. Thank goodness. Look,
Speaker 2: John Hickley was very close to Ronald Reagan correct on
Speaker 2: that Oswald was in a window and I've sat in
Speaker 2: that window. There was there was less skill that Oswald.
Speaker 2: That was a pretty easy shot, although he got off
Speaker 2: three shots and uh and he was a pretty skilled
Speaker 2: marksman from them he had military service. But that wasn't
Speaker 2: a tough shot.
Speaker 4: I mean, And if you go further further back, all
Speaker 4: been close encounters. All these assassinations have been close. Assassinations
Speaker 4: have been close encounters, and I think maybe that to
Speaker 4: a certain degree, nobody really thought that guy could make
Speaker 4: this shot. I mean, from what i'mstanding, not even his
Speaker 4: his people at the at the firing range thought he
Speaker 4: was a good shot.
Speaker 2: So I think he came pretty close for for for
Speaker 2: a guy that wasn't a good shot.
Speaker 4: He came pretty close to me exactly. And I don't
Speaker 4: think they were really looking at that. Plus plus, this
Speaker 4: was Trump territory. Nobody thought anybody was going to try
Speaker 4: to kill Trump in his own territory.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what to say about that. I
Speaker 2: think that, uh so you're basically you're basically saying that
Speaker 2: are you are you interested in having an investigation and
Speaker 2: find out finding out who dropped the ball? Or do
Speaker 2: you do you have you already concluded that really that
Speaker 2: there was there was really no major mistake made here.
Speaker 4: I think that making mistake was that the training hasn't
Speaker 4: been up to par.
Speaker 2: And the training you're talking about is of whom if
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure I understand.
Speaker 4: Of whom the Secret Service, the local individuals, and the
Speaker 4: type of training. I don't think these guys have really
Speaker 4: been trained in marksmen taking out presidents.
Speaker 2: Well, they they told wasecond. They took this guy out
Speaker 2: in about five seconds. I mean, he was he he
Speaker 2: was on a stairway to heaven or a stairway to hell,
Speaker 2: wherever he was going five seconds after Trump got hit.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Secret Service shop shooters did a really
Speaker 2: nice job. So I don't know that they needed training.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they may have some communication problems
Speaker 2: between a secret service who does this all the time,
Speaker 2: and local police agencies who might do it once every
Speaker 2: twenty or thirty years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was the problem. They just didn't
Speaker 4: think this could happen, and they didn't think that guy
Speaker 4: was capable of it, even though they saw him. They
Speaker 4: saw they saw a little kid, a guy that was
Speaker 4: just out of high school or something like that.
Speaker 2: Twenty it's twenty years old. Yeah, just he did a
Speaker 2: couple of years in a community college. But hey, okay,
Speaker 2: turn up, Frank. Interesting perspective. You know, we tend to
Speaker 2: disagree on this one and it I always appreciate your calls.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us tonight. It's important to get
Speaker 2: different perspectives on this show. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Kevin.
Speaker 2: Great one good night. We're gonna take quick break. One
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Speaker 1: Back to Dan Ray live from the Window World Nightside
Speaker 1: Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: By the way, I thought that the Vice President Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris had had a good retort to Donald Trump and
Speaker 2: I want to Rob. I want you to pay play
Speaker 2: cut number twenty nine, very composed, very effective, cut twenty nine.
Speaker 9: Well, Donald, I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me
Speaker 9: on the debate stage, because, as the saying goes, if
Speaker 9: you've got something to.
Speaker 2: Say, let's go next too. We had three calls drop off,
Speaker 2: so I'm not sure who's been on longest, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to try to get everybody in and try to
Speaker 2: be fair. Going to start it with Bill and Mattapoison. Bill,
Speaker 2: you in next on Nightside, Go right ahead.
Speaker 6: I'm then interesting topic of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go right ahead, But you dropped out on this,
Speaker 2: but hopefully the connection holds. Go right ahead. Want to
Speaker 2: hear what you have to say.
Speaker 6: Well, I was listening to the testimony the acting chief
Speaker 6: and there was part of it that really jumped out
Speaker 6: of me. I was shocked where he talked about the
Speaker 6: fact that Trump wouldn't get the same level of protection
Speaker 6: by a Secret Service that President Biden would. And of
Speaker 6: course different people get different protection depend on who you are.
Speaker 6: If you're I imagine Dick Cheney still gets protection, it's
Speaker 6: one level. But he said Biden, as a sitting president,
Speaker 6: would get more protection, more officers, I guess, more funding
Speaker 6: for an event than Donald Trump would, and I just
Speaker 6: that's unbelievable to me.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's unbelievable. True, but also remember the
Speaker 2: Biden administration withheld any Secret Service protection from Robert F.
Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior for months.
Speaker 6: Incredible.
Speaker 2: Now, Bobby Kennedy Junior is an independent candidate. Obviously, he's
Speaker 2: a third party or an independent candidate. He's not a Republican,
Speaker 2: he's not a Democrat. But Homeland Security aka MAYORCUS is
Speaker 2: the person who supposedly decided Apparently Kennedy asked five times
Speaker 2: over a period of about six months for Secret Service protection.
Speaker 2: The son of a former US senator who is a
Speaker 2: presidential candidate. His father, Robert F. Kennedy, who was assassinated
Speaker 2: while running for president.
Speaker 6: And his uncle my gosh, and his uncle.
Speaker 2: As well obviously course, but so that shows to me
Speaker 2: a very cavalier attitude within the Biden administration as to
Speaker 2: who gets and how much everyone gets. Donald Trump was
Speaker 2: a presidential candidate, I had a former president.
Speaker 6: Well not not only that, Dan, but I mean, let's
Speaker 6: be kind a polarizing figure, ye to say, the most
Speaker 6: recognizable person there can be. And there is talk about,
Speaker 6: you know the fact that there's been a narrative about
Speaker 6: name calling and some you know venom from the Biden
Speaker 6: administration and they call him this and that, Well.
Speaker 2: He represents he represents people. Well, they said that he
Speaker 2: represents an existential threat to democracy.
Speaker 6: Now there you go.
Speaker 2: How is that going to play in the mind of
Speaker 2: some twenty year old kid who probably doesn't even understand
Speaker 2: what the word existential? Existential?
Speaker 6: Again, my main point is I'm shocked that they said
Speaker 6: as a matter of policy, and maybe this goes way back,
Speaker 6: maybe people are in different categories of pro the protect easier,
Speaker 6: different categories. But they had a they had a uh
Speaker 6: uh design for this that Trump was going to get
Speaker 6: something less than the most security that could be gotten.
Speaker 6: He deserved every secure every seasible officer, every method, every
Speaker 6: means they could do to protect him. It's shocking. You
Speaker 6: should be shocking to anybody that Trump didn't get every
Speaker 6: protection they can handle. And maybe that's why somebody wasn't
Speaker 6: on that roof, And maybe that's why someone wasn't communicating,
Speaker 6: someone didn't have that meeting they're supposed to have with
Speaker 6: the with the local officers. It's mind boggling that they
Speaker 6: went in with that mindset, we're going to do something
Speaker 6: less than full blown protection for this guy. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I think you made your points, Bill, you
Speaker 2: made him really well. And let's see if people react. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: we Goodnick you much, thank you, Bill. Oh where are
Speaker 2: we going next? I'm going to get to Tom and
Speaker 2: West Virginia and then we'll have Trevor in Maine.
Speaker 10: Go ahead, Tom, Yeah, A couple of dollars ago, Frank
Speaker 10: number one, one hundred and forty yards is away is
Speaker 10: four hundred feet approximately.
Speaker 7: I don't know if the kid had a scope on
Speaker 7: his rifle, more than likely he did. And a head
Speaker 7: shot in a prone position shooting a rifle that's an
Speaker 7: easy shot with a two twenty three, which comes out
Speaker 7: of the barrel around thirty six to thirty eight hundred
Speaker 7: feet per second. God forbid, if that bullet ever hit
Speaker 7: Trump on the head, it would not be pretty. Now,
Speaker 7: with regards to the sniper that took out the shooter,
Speaker 7: he shot him in the head and there was an eyewitness,
Speaker 7: an odd looking kid with fiery red hair, wearing like
Speaker 7: a visor on his head and said, oh no, and
Speaker 7: he talked to a British reporter, Oh no, they blew
Speaker 7: his head off. And that's exactly what would happen if
Speaker 7: you had a center fire rifle that hit someone in
Speaker 7: the head, it would split it open. We've seen the
Speaker 7: Zpruiter film of JFK having part of his skull Jackie
Speaker 7: and Kennedy retrieving it. I hate to be graphic, right right, Okay,
Speaker 7: So here's the other point that that bothers me. That
Speaker 7: Number one, they have not matched up the ballistics of
Speaker 7: the victim with the rifle. We haven't even seen a photo.
Speaker 2: Of the rifles.
Speaker 7: We certainly saw Lee harv Oswell's rifle as well as
Speaker 7: the man who shot Doctor King, James Earl Ray his rifle.
Speaker 7: I'm very suspicious. What's going on the other thing that
Speaker 7: came out with The New York Times to their credit,
Speaker 7: that the secret service in the local police force, local
Speaker 7: law enforcement were not on the free, frequent, same frequency
Speaker 7: as the radios. You've got to be kidding me. When
Speaker 7: you're an event like that, everybody should be on the
Speaker 7: same page.
Speaker 2: Now, that's why, that's why you have a meeting ahead
Speaker 2: of time and you say, Okay, this is the frequency
Speaker 2: we'll be using.
Speaker 7: Of course, I mean that's just common sense. And I
Speaker 7: don't know, but you know, the other thing is that
Speaker 7: after that kid full pull the first trigger, you said
Speaker 7: it was five seconds before the kid got shot by
Speaker 7: a sniper.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if it was five seconds or
Speaker 2: eight seconds, but it was pretty quick.
Speaker 7: Okay, so the kid, we're told that the kid fired
Speaker 7: off eight rounds on AR fifteen, which every you know,
Speaker 7: if you pull the trigger as fast as you can,
Speaker 7: you can pull off eight shots, probably anywhere from four
Speaker 7: to eight seconds.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 7: You know we're splitting hairs here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But for a sniper to get on that kid that quick,
Speaker 7: that's very good, and that's their job to do something
Speaker 7: like that. But the testimony yesterday, I forget who the
Speaker 7: senator was, but they did a topographical map, and they
Speaker 7: said that that law enforcement saw this person on the roof,
Speaker 7: which had a very slight slope of approximately five inches
Speaker 7: from front to back. I'm sorry. You know, snipers have
Speaker 7: scopes as well as binoculars, and at least in the military.
Speaker 7: I'm armchair quarterbacking here, but they usually have a person
Speaker 7: with binocular Something's very very wrong here, and I really
Speaker 7: I don't want to see a blue ribbon commission. I
Speaker 7: want to see straightforward answers in what I hear on
Speaker 7: these hearings from the previous director, the woman of the
Speaker 7: Secret Service to this guy. Oh, it's an on the
Speaker 7: typical answers. It's an ongoing investigation. Talk to the FBI
Speaker 7: about that, talk to the Secret Service about that. It's
Speaker 7: just double speak. It's like a novel of read in
Speaker 7: high school of nineteen eighty four of double speak.
Speaker 2: Sure, and well, the woman cheatle, cheatle, she didn't want
Speaker 2: to give any question, any answers at all. Well, I
Speaker 2: can't really comment. It was ridiculous and she was very quiet.
Speaker 2: And play the guy. They rolled out this fellow row
Speaker 2: the gentleman who I've been playing this evening, Ronald Rowe.
Speaker 2: He was ready for battle with a variety of the senators,
Speaker 2: and his post it was, don't tell me how to
Speaker 2: do my job. I'm going to do my job on
Speaker 2: my time, under my circumstances.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, he didn't give any direct answers either. He
Speaker 7: just basically grandstanding.
Speaker 2: It was a it was a different presentation, but we
Speaker 2: got the same. The lack of information was also self evident. Tom,
Speaker 2: I want to get one marine before the break. Thank
Speaker 2: you for calling back. I don't know what happened in call.
Speaker 2: We had three calls that got dropped off simultaneously. Sorry
Speaker 2: about that, Bye bye, bye bye. All right, as I promised,
Speaker 2: Trevor is in Maine. Trevor, your call dropped off as well. Simultaneously,
Speaker 2: apologize for that. Go right ahead. Thanks for calling back.
Speaker 11: Hey, Dan, it's all good. I went under a bridge
Speaker 11: and I think I lost you, But I'm catching up.
Speaker 11: When I called in, I think about quarter of and
Speaker 11: we were on the local Sniper interview. Yeah, but you've
Speaker 11: talked about a few things in the interim, and I
Speaker 11: think down I think that that Trump uh speech today
Speaker 11: at the interview today, I think he was just peeling
Speaker 11: back the onion and being the brazen kind of brash
Speaker 11: self that he is, and there's a lot more of
Speaker 11: that onion to feel back. So expect to see more
Speaker 11: of that. That's kind of what I think about.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you this. Are you a
Speaker 2: Trump supporter?
Speaker 7: I am?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going to ask an honest question. When
Speaker 2: when that Donald Trump appears in front of an audience
Speaker 2: that he hopes, I guess to to turn some of
Speaker 2: the audience realizes it's an audience that's going to be
Speaker 2: somewhat skeptical. He's not speaking in front of the NRA,
Speaker 2: He's speaking in front of the National Association of Black Journalists.
Speaker 2: Do you think that by adopting that tone, that that confrontational,
Speaker 2: argumentative tone is gonna is going to bring anybody over
Speaker 2: to his campaign who is not already with him.
Speaker 11: That's that's a great question. And and and I I
Speaker 11: I do not think that that's allure to bring more
Speaker 11: people on. But but that's what we expect of him,
Speaker 11: the people that know him and his policies and how
Speaker 11: he stands his ground that we expect that. I do
Speaker 11: agree that that's a hard way to bring on new people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that if let's say, his base
Speaker 2: in all honesty, no matter remember when he said I
Speaker 2: could shoot somebody in the middle of Madison Avenue and
Speaker 2: people whatever. Let's say his base is forty two forty
Speaker 2: three percent, and that no matter what he does, he's
Speaker 2: going to have forty two to forty three percent. He
Speaker 2: still has to cobble together another five or seven or
Speaker 2: eight percent to win. And I mean the only place
Speaker 2: you can get that is either people who voted for
Speaker 2: Joe Biden and regretted people who are.
Speaker 6: Who are who stand.
Speaker 11: I understand what you're saying, and I honestly think he's
Speaker 11: thinking a little bit ahead of the game that he
Speaker 11: doesn't want to show any change in his character or
Speaker 11: brashness and stance on the international level because this is
Speaker 11: all exposed to everybody. I think he wants to just
Speaker 11: keep showing his same self.
Speaker 6: And you like him or you don't.
Speaker 2: Well, the name of the game is to get elected.
Speaker 7: Yes, I agree with that, yes, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I don't think. I don't think that he helped
Speaker 2: him self towards that goal today and I agree.
Speaker 11: I agree with that.
Speaker 6: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying, all.
Speaker 11: Right, All right, So back to the sniper interview real quick. Sure,
Speaker 11: I think all those guys. I watched it, and and
Speaker 11: I I felt scared about what's above us at the
Speaker 11: secret service level. But one thing I'd like to share
Speaker 11: on like the where we are with technology, complacency and messaging.
Speaker 6: These guys, these guys.
Speaker 11: Were messing up the way I understood it. These guys
Speaker 11: were messaging to us to a destination, and they believe
Speaker 11: that all these things were being read, received, and maybe
Speaker 11: acted on. But they I know, I didn't see anything
Speaker 11: in the interview where they got uh uh uh you
Speaker 11: know a response. They got a hey, we got this, Hey,
Speaker 11: we acknowledged this, We're on it. They I And and
Speaker 11: where where I get worried about that part is that
Speaker 11: if I don't get a response on an Eagle Scout,
Speaker 11: if I if I don't get a response, I start
Speaker 11: going into a different action mode where nobody's responding. We
Speaker 11: have to take another action, play in another action mode,
Speaker 11: and maybe take action on ourselves. So I'm worried that
Speaker 11: those guys were sitting there waiting when they they they
Speaker 11: could have been you know, a real a real braveheart
Speaker 11: and and step up and say, hey, nobody's responding.
Speaker 7: We know this is a problem.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a different take. I think that's interesting. And
Speaker 2: let's see if people agree or disagree with you on
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 11: Okay, yeah, yeah, All I'm saying is they did the
Speaker 11: right job, but nobody responded, and when nobody responds, you
Speaker 11: gotta do something different.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would agree, but I'm not sure that those
Speaker 2: guys on the ground on the ground were right.
Speaker 11: They were probably given they were given instructions and orders
Speaker 11: and you know, places to stand or whatever. But when
Speaker 11: you you know, when when when it's a it's it's
Speaker 11: an adrenal thing, it's a it's a flight or flight
Speaker 11: type thing that kicks in. Okay, when you when you're
Speaker 11: when you train that well, when you know what you're
Speaker 11: doing and and all the you know, things that could
Speaker 11: happen if you if you screw up. You know, you
Speaker 11: really have to do your job, and that's when that
Speaker 11: that adrenaline and fight or flight kicks in and you
Speaker 11: got to make a strong decision. No one's responding to me.
Speaker 6: I got to do something, all right.
Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see if people agree. I understand what
Speaker 2: you're saying. Totally, Thanks Trevor.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 2: Have you called before.
Speaker 11: Is this your first time, No, I've called.
Speaker 6: I'm usually from Chelsetood.
Speaker 11: I'm trying to get some time up in Maine.
Speaker 2: Good for you. Okay, Thanks Trevor, to talk to you soon.
Speaker 2: Good night. Well, take a break. Here's the news at
Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour. Be right back on night Side.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Com Back to the phones, Kevin in South Carolina. Kevin,
Speaker 2: you were next on Nightside.
Speaker 12: Welcome, Hi, Dan, I'm talking about Trump's interview today. Yes,
Speaker 12: you and I are the same generation. I remember Kennedy's
Speaker 12: election in sixty and back then things were policies. What
Speaker 12: was your policy? What was your position? And in the
Speaker 12: last fifteen to twenty years we get more into identity.
Speaker 12: Now you had like John F. John Kerry. Everybody thought
Speaker 12: he was Irish. Then we found out he wasn't. He's Austrian,
Speaker 12: you know, he used it to his political gang. He
Speaker 12: never said he was Irish, but he never said he wasn't.
Speaker 12: Then you had Elizabeth Warren. She claimed she was native American.
Speaker 12: We found out power out the Indian boy had more
Speaker 12: DNA than her. And right now up in Massachusetts you
Speaker 12: have the Connie and the Shoba during the verge of closing,
Speaker 12: leaving all these people out of hospital. She's nowhere to
Speaker 12: be seen. If it's not going to benefit her, She's
Speaker 12: kind of gone off somewhere else to help the Harris campaign.
Speaker 12: Joel Harris. Her family's Jamaican and Indian. She's not an
Speaker 12: African American family with a history of enslavement who picked cotton.
Speaker 12: The Irish Times did a story on him and found
Speaker 12: out she is an Irish ancestor and he all the
Speaker 12: slaves in Jamaica. You know, her parents were college professors.
Speaker 12: She went to a private academy in Montreal and to
Speaker 12: Howard University, a black college. The people I know down
Speaker 12: here in South Carolina, they have no connection with her.
Speaker 12: They have debly, some struggle for years. Some of them
Speaker 12: can tell you the whole family history back to being
Speaker 12: enslaved during before the Civil War. There's no connection between.
Speaker 2: Okay, so result many of the things you said is
Speaker 2: true her. I guess her mom was a college professor,
Speaker 2: was teaching up in Canada, and she went to high
Speaker 2: school in Canada. I get all of that. I've mentioned
Speaker 2: that before, and I think that those are interesting facts.
Speaker 2: But for former President Trump to spend part of his
Speaker 2: day trying to dissect and make the comment that you know,
Speaker 2: she was always Indian, meaning from you know, from India,
Speaker 2: from the nation her parents or mom was from Indian
Speaker 2: India and that then I think the comment he used
Speaker 2: was she became black.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think I think the worrying for him
Speaker 7: was poor.
Speaker 2: Well, it's always poor, but I think it's intentionally poor.
Speaker 2: First of all, why do you want to even go there? Okay? Uh?
Speaker 2: And I just think that everyone knows that follows this uh,
Speaker 2: that she is of mixed parentage, just as Barack Obama
Speaker 2: was of mixed parentage, and Barack Obama was considered to
Speaker 2: be the first and is the first black American president,
Speaker 2: African American, whatever you want to call it. What's what
Speaker 2: is the plus for Donald Trump in doing it this way?
Speaker 2: Does it? Does it is his base that week that
Speaker 2: he has to strengthen his base. I just think it's
Speaker 2: it's almost as if I don't know that he really
Speaker 2: wants to win the White House. Now.
Speaker 12: I think we've devall to this identity politics and doesn't
Speaker 12: do anybody any good because you want the policy, I
Speaker 12: want to know what you're going to do I don't
Speaker 12: care what you have it you look like, what do
Speaker 12: you want to do it for me?
Speaker 2: There's a stark. As I said earlier, on most policy issues,
Speaker 2: I'm a lot closer to Donald Trump than I am
Speaker 2: to Kamala Harris. You know me if you listen to
Speaker 2: my program regularly the United if you do. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, there's a certain manner that I want
Speaker 2: the President of the United States to embody. I want
Speaker 2: him to be intelligent. I wanted to be respectful. I'm
Speaker 2: not looking for Don Rickles to be president.
Speaker 12: Either of mine. Okay, no, but another thing, just quickly.
Speaker 12: You know, Kennedy was sixty years ago when Walter Cronkai
Speaker 12: could on the TV. We believed every word he said.
Speaker 12: I can't say that about anybody on the TV today,
Speaker 12: you know, And next week August eighth, Nixon would be resigned.
Speaker 12: Fifty years we trusted Woodward and Bernstein, and today everyone
Speaker 12: on TV, every supposed news reporter, every supposed journalist, everything
Speaker 12: has a slant. No one has given me the truth.
Speaker 12: Probably in twenty years. I have to go out and
Speaker 12: pick like you do, pick and look at all these
Speaker 12: different reports and pull everything out and think I know
Speaker 12: the truth from all the different reporting.
Speaker 2: Well, there's two things. A lot of people go to
Speaker 2: the cable news network that they agree with. It's called
Speaker 2: being in your silo. So you just you just listen
Speaker 2: to people who tell you what you want to hear,
Speaker 2: as opposed to getting a variety of opinions. I got
Speaker 2: to tell you, I was a TV reporter here in
Speaker 2: Boston for thirty one years, and I used to delight
Speaker 2: when people will come up to me and say, you know,
Speaker 2: I've watched you on TV. I have no idea what
Speaker 2: your politics are.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I understand that. I didn't eat if he
Speaker 12: ye iss until you've got in the radio. You were,
Speaker 12: You were Don the reporter, and you went out and
Speaker 12: all these reporters.
Speaker 2: You went out.
Speaker 12: You call people up and you check things, You check
Speaker 12: the facts, you check the reports, and talk to three
Speaker 12: people didn't know each other. And when they told you
Speaker 12: the same thing, he said, I think I'm on the
Speaker 12: right track. No one does it anymore. No one checks
Speaker 12: people's histories who run for politics where they will problem
Speaker 12: with their money comes from? Anything for that And what's
Speaker 12: the real reason for running? Are they really the candidate
Speaker 12: or is there some constortion behind them? It's really telling
Speaker 12: them what to do. You don't know that anymore.
Speaker 2: The other thing, the other thing too is the meetia's
Speaker 2: got sophisticated because it's not only what stories they cover,
Speaker 2: but it's what stories they choose not to cover. I mean,
Speaker 2: our nightly newscaster thirty minutes, so you get everything you
Speaker 2: need to know, supposedly in thirty minutes. Well, I watched
Speaker 2: TV during the day, and I try to watch CNN,
Speaker 2: try to watch a little bit of Fox, and at
Speaker 2: night I try to watch I tend to watch ABC
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, I find that to be a better
Speaker 2: nightly broadcast than some of the other nightly stations. But
Speaker 2: I have my questions about them as well. Walter Cronkett
Speaker 2: was around a long time and people came to know
Speaker 2: and came came to respect and trust him.
Speaker 12: The night he turned on the Johnson in the Vietnam War,
Speaker 12: and Johnson turned to Dean Rusk and said, we've lost.
Speaker 12: If I lost Walter, I've lost the country.
Speaker 2: Yep, you got a good memory, Kevin. Thank you much.
Speaker 12: Age. You know, we we don't run of all timers yet,
Speaker 12: but we do it. It's gonna be very sad because
Speaker 12: we're gonna lose a lot of stories. We know.
Speaker 2: Let's hope neither one of us are ever touched by that.
Speaker 7: That's I hope I just get hit by a pass.
Speaker 12: Will be easier, Kevin, good.
Speaker 2: Night, Talk to you soon. Good night. All right, we
Speaker 2: got to take quick break, got a break coming up.
Speaker 2: We're gonna continue to roll, coming right back here on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on w BZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: I love me, Go to D and Mathu and D
Speaker 2: you were next one Nightside. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Oh Hi Dan, long time, No see no here, but.
Speaker 2: Hi, Well, that's not my fault.
Speaker 5: I know I'm a rigid Well I was from Cambridge
Speaker 5: and I remember you remember way back when you were
Speaker 5: an editorial I'm trying to think what newspaper now. But
Speaker 5: as I said before, I know you from wayback.
Speaker 2: I was on WBZTV for thirty one years.
Speaker 5: Yes, I know that, but I'm just trying to remember you.
Speaker 5: I think I told you before you were such a young, handsome,
Speaker 5: young reporter that everybody was going up to you and
Speaker 5: saying hello, which includes me. Well, yes, nice to hear
Speaker 5: from you. I do want to say something if I
Speaker 5: can stand. Thank you. No one seems to talk about
Speaker 5: that Biden's policies are going to be her policy. True,
Speaker 5: Am I right? On that day?
Speaker 2: Well, I think she made I think that Vice President
Speaker 2: Harris is going to be a little more even the
Speaker 2: rest of than than President Biden.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, uh, And could I just state
Speaker 5: one more point if I could. Letting all these migrants
Speaker 5: into the country for the vote is the worst thing
Speaker 5: I've ever experienced. And I'm in my eighties, and you
Speaker 5: know what, they're going to get away with it, And
Speaker 5: that is what bothers me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean. Elizabeth Warren, our senior senator here in Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: said the other day, we have to find the path
Speaker 2: the citizenship for the people who have come here illegally.
Speaker 2: I think she, of course didn't say that. She referred
Speaker 2: to what we need to welcome our newcomers or some
Speaker 2: some euphemism like that. Yeah, I think we need to
Speaker 2: expedite people who are standing in line around the country
Speaker 2: and who are doing it properly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's exactly right, exactly right. But
Speaker 5: I had to say that. And also I want someone
Speaker 5: who's going to put America first, because I've seen so
Speaker 5: many things in my lifetime that I happen to like
Speaker 5: Donald Trump. I know he can be a bit spicy
Speaker 5: at times and all that type of thing, but I
Speaker 5: think his heart is in the right place and I'm
Speaker 5: going to vote for him, all right. But I just
Speaker 5: thought I called and tell you, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Is this your first time calling my show?
Speaker 5: No, I called you before. Dan, I'm telling you you
Speaker 5: were a great little reporter. Everyone wanted to speak with you,
Speaker 5: but you were blonder then.
Speaker 12: I think, thanks, Well, just remember this all.
Speaker 2: I got a haircut today and if you I still
Speaker 2: have it up there is. That's the point. I don't
Speaker 2: care what color it is, as long as as long
Speaker 2: as I have a good I had TV here at
Speaker 2: this described.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, well you covered many stories. We had
Speaker 5: many many stories. I was in probation be forty years,
Speaker 5: got all types of stories. I almost missed a job
Speaker 5: to be truthful. Very nice to speak to you.
Speaker 2: Did you talk to you again?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: Good night? Right, good night. Next up we're going to
Speaker 2: go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill you in next on Nightside?
Speaker 2: Go right ahead?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Thanks Dan? Hey, are you sitting down for this one?
Speaker 7: I am Okay, listen, this is I was just over
Speaker 7: to BFW tonight and there's maybe maybe thirteen fourteen guys
Speaker 7: in there, a couple gals in there, every one of
Speaker 7: them inside job. And we started discussing it, and uh,
Speaker 7: one guy that was in military intelligence for one hundred
Speaker 7: years comes up with this theory. This is the kind
Speaker 7: of kid that the CIA would recruit for a job
Speaker 7: like this. And you noticed that it happened after they
Speaker 7: thought for sure they were going to put Trump in jail,
Speaker 7: and when the Supreme Court came down and said that no,
Speaker 7: in fact, the president does have immunity in certain cases.
Speaker 7: That's when they went to plan B that they were
Speaker 7: sitting on the shelf.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that. I feel you know,
Speaker 2: I got to tell you, if that is true, we
Speaker 2: are now a banana republic.
Speaker 7: I mean, if a banana republic.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean, if that's true, I hope and
Speaker 2: believe it is not true. By the way, it's not
Speaker 2: inconceivable that Donald Trump is going to be By the way,
Speaker 2: I think Donald Trump has a sentencing hearing on September
Speaker 2: eighth on that case in New York. It's conceivable that
Speaker 2: that judge might say, hey, we're putting in the in
Speaker 2: jail for sixty days or whatever. I don't I don't
Speaker 2: think he's likely to do that. But that's a pretty damn.
Speaker 7: Interesting judge this case here, Okay, it's it's this is
Speaker 7: the way they do things, all right. They go out
Speaker 7: and they recruit a kid like that, and they put
Speaker 7: them on the shelf, and when they need him, they
Speaker 7: need them.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 7: Listen, when I saw that guy up there that took
Speaker 7: over the Secret Service, Okay, he was. He didn't answer
Speaker 7: all the questions, but a couple of things that he
Speaker 7: said that just blew my mind, okay. Was one of
Speaker 7: them was he couldn't tell us. Okay, he couldn't tell
Speaker 7: what kind of a range finder it was. Okay, that's
Speaker 7: first thing. Okay, seventeen days into it, he should have
Speaker 7: known exactly what kind of range finder that was. The
Speaker 7: second thing was all right when he admitted that that
Speaker 7: the Secret Service pulled their drone out of the box
Speaker 7: and it didn't work. But by the way, the shooter
Speaker 7: had his head his drone running around about an hour
Speaker 7: and a half before that. And then and then the
Speaker 7: Pennsylvania State Police come over and said, oh, what's wrong?
Speaker 7: Your your your drone won't work here. We got a couple.
Speaker 7: You can use one of ours. Now, if their main
Speaker 7: purpose in life is to keep is, it doesn't matter
Speaker 7: who to protect them, whether it be Trumper or Biden
Speaker 7: or HARRISONI if they're offered a drone because theirs is
Speaker 7: broken and the number one concern is to keep you know,
Speaker 7: this person alive. Because by the way, the Iranians. Okay,
Speaker 7: one mile back.
Speaker 2: I'm not disputing your theory. I'm not disputing your belief,
Speaker 2: I should say. But if your theory is true, and
Speaker 2: I hope to God it isn't, then we are in
Speaker 2: a Banana republic at this point. Okay, we are a
Speaker 2: Banana republic.
Speaker 7: But last thing, that the last thing, that last thing
Speaker 7: that blew me away, Dan, was this Peter Struck and
Speaker 7: Lisa Page. You get fired from the FBI because all
Speaker 7: the shenanigans they pulled, all right, they sue the FBI
Speaker 7: and the FBI okay without even going to court. Okay,
Speaker 7: it gives him one point two million and gives her
Speaker 7: eight hundred thousand dollars. Tell me, we're not in the
Speaker 7: Banana republic.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're convincing me. But but I'm just telling you
Speaker 2: that not as a journalist, not having investigated all. Let
Speaker 2: me finish, Plaze, I have an interrupted Bill, let me
Speaker 2: finish as a journalist. I have to go back and
Speaker 2: read the court documents, find out what the cause of
Speaker 2: action is what I assume was it was improper termination
Speaker 2: or something like that. You know again, this is this
Speaker 2: is a program where people like you and me get
Speaker 2: to express our opinions. But if I sit here and say,
Speaker 2: you know what, Bill, You're right, I agree with you,
Speaker 2: I would be i would be lying to my audience
Speaker 2: number one, and I'd be lying to you. But I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna sit here and say Bill, well, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm going to cut you off. That's the That's
Speaker 2: what I'm what I try to do it. This is
Speaker 2: a forum for ideas. I think that that you have
Speaker 2: you have put together you know, issue A with issue B,
Speaker 2: issue CEE, issue D or whatever. I don't see the
Speaker 2: the connectivity that you see, and I hope to god
Speaker 2: you're wrong.
Speaker 7: Well, the last thing I gotta say Dan is this,
Speaker 7: if he starts getting way ahead in the polls against Kamala, Okay,
Speaker 7: they better put the better, they better beef his beef,
Speaker 7: the guys, the guys that jumped on him, was the
Speaker 7: guys that he better keep them around and get some
Speaker 7: more like him, because once he starts getting, once he
Speaker 7: starts getting.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to go here any further with you, Okay.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you calls your regular caller. I think that
Speaker 2: you go gave us your theories, but I'm not going
Speaker 2: down that road any further with you at this point.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk again. I hope have a great night.
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