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<v Speaker 1>I'm Deels.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're continuing to talk about the ruling of the

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<v Speaker 2>new the interim temporary Secret Service Director in Congress yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also want to incorporate because if I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>incorporate some of these comments by a former President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>He was speaking to a group of black journalists in

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago and he was invited to attend, and to his credit,

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<v Speaker 2>he took the He took the invitation and he appeared

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<v Speaker 2>in person. I think there was one point where he

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<v Speaker 2>said that I think what he said was that that

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic again, the Democratic soon to be nominee Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Harris had agreed to do it on zoom and

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<v Speaker 2>he got some tough questions today and I thought his

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<v Speaker 2>responses were really dumb. I don't know how else to

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<v Speaker 2>describe them. Because when you when you open your mouth

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<v Speaker 2>and you say things that you that clearly are going

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<v Speaker 2>to hurt your cause, whatever that cause is, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're being dumb. I want to have play a different

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<v Speaker 2>sound bite. This is from his appearance today with the

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<v Speaker 2>Black Journalists cut in Chicago. This is cut Sea and

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that this is ABC's Rachel Scott asking a second,

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<v Speaker 2>well another question of Donald Trump cuts, c rub.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you define the go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you define diversity? Equity inclusion?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, go ahead?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what your definition?

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<v Speaker 2>That is?

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<v Speaker 5>That is?

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<v Speaker 6>Give me a definition?

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<v Speaker 2>Then would you give me a definition? Give me a definition.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm asking you a question. Define it from me.

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<v Speaker 2>I just defined it, sir. Do you believe that Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is.

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<v Speaker 4>A black woman?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I can say no.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's maybe a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I've known her a long time, indirectly, not

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<v Speaker 3>directly very much, and she was always of Indian heritage

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<v Speaker 3>and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>she was black until a number of years ago when.

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<v Speaker 2>She happened to turn black.

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<v Speaker 3>And now she wants to be known as black. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know is she Indian or.

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<v Speaker 2>Is she black?

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<v Speaker 1>She is always.

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<v Speaker 2>College.

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<v Speaker 3>I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because she

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<v Speaker 3>was Indian all the way and then all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden she made a turn and she went she became

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<v Speaker 3>a black. I think somebody should look into that too.

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<v Speaker 3>When you ask a continue in a very hostile, nasty.

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<v Speaker 2>Town, it's uh yeah, probably pulled a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>over to say, insane, insane to uh to engage in

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of conversations. Again, if you're going to go somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>be polite, deal with whatever the tough questions are, and

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<v Speaker 2>come leave, hopefully with people having some grudging respect for

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<v Speaker 2>your demeanor and your effort to answer questions. Honestly, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to back to the call. It's gonna go to

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<v Speaker 2>Frank and Boston. Frank, you're next time, nightside, Go ahead, sir.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, sir, I'm not I think the Secret Service might

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<v Speaker 8>have made a mistake because of.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm inexperience. They do not really have an experience with shopshooters.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think they and agents in that sight

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<v Speaker 4>may have thought to a certain extent, maybe less. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not sure that there's no way this guy could end

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<v Speaker 4>up hitting anybody from that distance. Yes's a distance, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a that's more than a football field.

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<v Speaker 2>It is more than a football field. But have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever shot a rifle at that distance?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm saying the guy. I don't think they thought

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<v Speaker 4>the average guy couldn't do that well.

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<v Speaker 2>First, if they don't necessarily always have to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>the average guy. But you have a rifle with the scope.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not a tough shot. That is not a

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<v Speaker 2>tough shot. It really isn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Well well, I think the average shooters of these different

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<v Speaker 4>presidents in the past have been close counters, close encounters.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that the only one was Oswald. And there

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<v Speaker 4>was a lady who tried to kill Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>There were two of them actually, Sarah Jane Moore and

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<v Speaker 2>and Squeaky Frome, one of the Manson family members, both

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<v Speaker 2>took the shots at Gerald Ford in the same city,

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco, on different dates in November I believe was

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<v Speaker 2>of nineteen ninety four, or it would have been November

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four, ninety five, and they missed. Thank goodness. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>John Hickley was very close to Ronald Reagan correct on

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<v Speaker 2>that Oswald was in a window and I've sat in

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<v Speaker 2>that window. There was there was less skill that Oswald.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a pretty easy shot, although he got off

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<v Speaker 2>three shots and uh and he was a pretty skilled

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<v Speaker 2>marksman from them he had military service. But that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a tough shot.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, And if you go further further back, all

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<v Speaker 4>been close encounters. All these assassinations have been close. Assassinations

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<v Speaker 4>have been close encounters, and I think maybe that to

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<v Speaker 4>a certain degree, nobody really thought that guy could make

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<v Speaker 4>this shot. I mean, from what i'mstanding, not even his

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<v Speaker 4>his people at the at the firing range thought he

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<v Speaker 4>was a good shot.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think he came pretty close for for for

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that wasn't a good shot.

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<v Speaker 4>He came pretty close to me exactly. And I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think they were really looking at that. Plus plus, this

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<v Speaker 4>was Trump territory. Nobody thought anybody was going to try

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<v Speaker 4>to kill Trump in his own territory.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know what to say about that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that, uh so you're basically you're basically saying that

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<v Speaker 2>are you are you interested in having an investigation and

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<v Speaker 2>find out finding out who dropped the ball? Or do

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<v Speaker 2>you do you have you already concluded that really that

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<v Speaker 2>there was there was really no major mistake made here.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that making mistake was that the training hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>been up to par.

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<v Speaker 2>And the training you're talking about is of whom if

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to make sure I understand.

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<v Speaker 4>Of whom the Secret Service, the local individuals, and the

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<v Speaker 4>type of training. I don't think these guys have really

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<v Speaker 4>been trained in marksmen taking out presidents.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they they told wasecond. They took this guy out

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<v Speaker 2>in about five seconds. I mean, he was he he

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<v Speaker 2>was on a stairway to heaven or a stairway to hell,

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<v Speaker 2>wherever he was going five seconds after Trump got hit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Secret Service shop shooters did a really

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<v Speaker 2>nice job. So I don't know that they needed training.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think they may have some communication problems

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<v Speaker 2>between a secret service who does this all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and local police agencies who might do it once every

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<v Speaker 2>twenty or thirty years.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that was the problem. They just didn't

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<v Speaker 4>think this could happen, and they didn't think that guy

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<v Speaker 4>was capable of it, even though they saw him. They

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<v Speaker 4>saw they saw a little kid, a guy that was

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<v Speaker 4>just out of high school or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty it's twenty years old. Yeah, just he did a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years in a community college. But hey, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>turn up, Frank. Interesting perspective. You know, we tend to

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<v Speaker 2>disagree on this one and it I always appreciate your calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for joining us tonight. It's important to get

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<v Speaker 2>different perspectives on this show. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thank you, Kevin.

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<v Speaker 2>Great one good night. We're gonna take quick break. One

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<v Speaker 1>Back to Dan Ray live from the Window World Nightside

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<v Speaker 1>Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I thought that the Vice President Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Harris had had a good retort to Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to Rob. I want you to pay play

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<v Speaker 2>cut number twenty nine, very composed, very effective, cut twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, Donald, I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me

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<v Speaker 9>on the debate stage, because, as the saying goes, if

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<v Speaker 9>you've got something to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, let's go next too. We had three calls drop off,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not sure who's been on longest, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to get everybody in and try to

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<v Speaker 2>be fair. Going to start it with Bill and Mattapoison. Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>you in next on Nightside, Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm then interesting topic of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go right ahead, But you dropped out on this,

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<v Speaker 2>but hopefully the connection holds. Go right ahead. Want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear what you have to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I was listening to the testimony the acting chief

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<v Speaker 6>and there was part of it that really jumped out

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<v Speaker 6>of me. I was shocked where he talked about the

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<v Speaker 6>fact that Trump wouldn't get the same level of protection

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<v Speaker 6>by a Secret Service that President Biden would. And of

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<v Speaker 6>course different people get different protection depend on who you are.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're I imagine Dick Cheney still gets protection, it's

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<v Speaker 6>one level. But he said Biden, as a sitting president,

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<v Speaker 6>would get more protection, more officers, I guess, more funding

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<v Speaker 6>for an event than Donald Trump would, and I just

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<v Speaker 6>that's unbelievable to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's unbelievable. True, but also remember the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden administration withheld any Secret Service protection from Robert F.

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<v Speaker 6>Incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Bobby Kennedy Junior is an independent candidate. Obviously, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a third party or an independent candidate. He's not a Republican,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not a Democrat. But Homeland Security aka MAYORCUS is

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<v Speaker 2>the person who supposedly decided Apparently Kennedy asked five times

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<v Speaker 2>over a period of about six months for Secret Service protection.

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<v Speaker 2>The son of a former US senator who is a

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<v Speaker 2>presidential candidate. His father, Robert F. Kennedy, who was assassinated

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<v Speaker 2>while running for president.

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<v Speaker 6>And his uncle my gosh, and his uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>As well obviously course, but so that shows to me

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<v Speaker 2>a very cavalier attitude within the Biden administration as to

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<v Speaker 2>who gets and how much everyone gets. Donald Trump was

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<v Speaker 2>a presidential candidate, I had a former president.

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<v Speaker 6>Well not not only that, Dan, but I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 6>be kind a polarizing figure, ye to say, the most

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<v Speaker 6>recognizable person there can be. And there is talk about,

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<v Speaker 6>you know the fact that there's been a narrative about

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<v Speaker 6>name calling and some you know venom from the Biden

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<v Speaker 6>administration and they call him this and that, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>He represents he represents people. Well, they said that he

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<v Speaker 2>represents an existential threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 6>Now there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>How is that going to play in the mind of

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<v Speaker 2>some twenty year old kid who probably doesn't even understand

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<v Speaker 2>what the word existential? Existential?

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<v Speaker 6>Again, my main point is I'm shocked that they said

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<v Speaker 6>as a matter of policy, and maybe this goes way back,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe people are in different categories of pro the protect easier,

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<v Speaker 6>different categories. But they had a they had a uh

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<v Speaker 6>uh design for this that Trump was going to get

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<v Speaker 6>something less than the most security that could be gotten.

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<v Speaker 6>He deserved every secure every seasible officer, every method, every

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<v Speaker 6>means they could do to protect him. It's shocking. You

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<v Speaker 6>should be shocking to anybody that Trump didn't get every

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<v Speaker 6>protection they can handle. And maybe that's why somebody wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>on that roof, And maybe that's why someone wasn't communicating,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think you made your points, Bill, you

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<v Speaker 2>made him really well. And let's see if people react. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we Goodnick you much, thank you, Bill. Oh where are

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<v Speaker 10>Go ahead, Tom, Yeah, A couple of dollars ago, Frank

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if the kid had a scope on

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<v Speaker 7>his rifle, more than likely he did. And a head

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<v Speaker 7>Trump on the head, it would not be pretty. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>with regards to the sniper that took out the shooter,

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<v Speaker 7>he shot him in the head and there was an eyewitness,

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<v Speaker 7>an odd looking kid with fiery red hair, wearing like

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<v Speaker 7>his head off. And that's exactly what would happen if

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<v Speaker 7>the head, it would split it open. We've seen the

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<v Speaker 7>Zpruiter film of JFK having part of his skull Jackie

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<v Speaker 7>So here's the other point that that bothers me. That

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<v Speaker 7>Number one, they have not matched up the ballistics of

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<v Speaker 2>Of the rifles.

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<v Speaker 7>We certainly saw Lee harv Oswell's rifle as well as

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<v Speaker 7>I'm very suspicious. What's going on the other thing that

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<v Speaker 7>that the secret service in the local police force, local

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<v Speaker 7>law enforcement were not on the free, frequent, same frequency

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<v Speaker 7>as the radios. You've got to be kidding me. When

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that's why, that's why you have a meeting ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of time and you say, Okay, this is the frequency

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, I mean that's just common sense. And I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know, but you know, the other thing is that

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<v Speaker 7>after that kid full pull the first trigger, you said

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<v Speaker 7>it was five seconds before the kid got shot by

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know if it was five seconds or

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<v Speaker 2>eight seconds, but it was pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so the kid, we're told that the kid fired

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<v Speaker 7>off eight rounds on AR fifteen, which every you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you can pull off eight shots, probably anywhere from four

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 7>You know we're splitting hairs here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>But for a sniper to get on that kid that quick,

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<v Speaker 7>that's very good, and that's their job to do something

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<v Speaker 7>like that. But the testimony yesterday, I forget who the

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<v Speaker 7>senator was, but they did a topographical map, and they

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<v Speaker 7>said that that law enforcement saw this person on the roof,

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<v Speaker 7>which had a very slight slope of approximately five inches

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<v Speaker 7>from front to back. I'm sorry. You know, snipers have

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to see a blue ribbon commission. I

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<v Speaker 7>want to see straightforward answers in what I hear on

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<v Speaker 7>these hearings from the previous director, the woman of the

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<v Speaker 7>Secret Service to this guy. Oh, it's an on the

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<v Speaker 7>typical answers. It's an ongoing investigation. Talk to the FBI

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<v Speaker 7>about that, talk to the Secret Service about that. It's

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<v Speaker 7>just double speak. It's like a novel of read in

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<v Speaker 7>high school of nineteen eighty four of double speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, and well, the woman cheatle, cheatle, she didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to give any question, any answers at all. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't really comment. It was ridiculous and she was very quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>And play the guy. They rolled out this fellow row

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<v Speaker 2>the gentleman who I've been playing this evening, Ronald Rowe.

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<v Speaker 2>He was ready for battle with a variety of the senators,

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<v Speaker 2>and his post it was, don't tell me how to

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Well, he didn't give any direct answers either. He

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<v Speaker 7>just basically grandstanding.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a it was a different presentation, but we

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<v Speaker 2>got the same. The lack of information was also self evident. Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get one marine before the break. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for calling back. I don't know what happened in call.

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<v Speaker 2>We had three calls that got dropped off simultaneously. Sorry

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<v Speaker 2>about that, Bye bye, bye bye. All right, as I promised,

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor is in Maine. Trevor, your call dropped off as well. Simultaneously,

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<v Speaker 2>apologize for that. Go right ahead. Thanks for calling back.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey, Dan, it's all good. I went under a bridge

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<v Speaker 11>and I think I lost you, But I'm catching up.

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<v Speaker 11>When I called in, I think about quarter of and

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<v Speaker 11>we were on the local Sniper interview. Yeah, but you've

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<v Speaker 11>talked about a few things in the interim, and I

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<v Speaker 11>think down I think that that Trump uh speech today

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<v Speaker 11>at the interview today, I think he was just peeling

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<v Speaker 11>self that he is, and there's a lot more of

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<v Speaker 11>that onion to feel back. So expect to see more

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<v Speaker 11>of that. That's kind of what I think about.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me ask you this. Are you a

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<v Speaker 7>I am?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm going to ask an honest question. When

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<v Speaker 2>when that Donald Trump appears in front of an audience

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<v Speaker 2>that he hopes, I guess to to turn some of

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<v Speaker 2>the audience realizes it's an audience that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat skeptical. He's not speaking in front of the NRA,

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<v Speaker 2>He's speaking in front of the National Association of Black Journalists.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that by adopting that tone, that that confrontational,

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<v Speaker 2>argumentative tone is gonna is going to bring anybody over

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<v Speaker 11>That's that's a great question. And and and I I

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<v Speaker 11>I do not think that that's allure to bring more

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<v Speaker 11>people on. But but that's what we expect of him,

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<v Speaker 11>the people that know him and his policies and how

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<v Speaker 11>agree that that's a hard way to bring on new people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just think that if let's say, his base

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<v Speaker 2>in all honesty, no matter remember when he said I

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<v Speaker 2>people whatever. Let's say his base is forty two forty

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<v Speaker 2>three percent, and that no matter what he does, he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to have forty two to forty three percent. He

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<v Speaker 2>still has to cobble together another five or seven or

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<v Speaker 6>Who are who stand.

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<v Speaker 11>I understand what you're saying, and I honestly think he's

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<v Speaker 11>thinking a little bit ahead of the game that he

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<v Speaker 11>doesn't want to show any change in his character or

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<v Speaker 11>brashness and stance on the international level because this is

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<v Speaker 11>all exposed to everybody. I think he wants to just

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<v Speaker 6>And you like him or you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the name of the game is to get elected.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I agree with that, yes, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think. I don't think that he helped

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<v Speaker 11>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm saying, all.

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<v Speaker 11>Right, All right, So back to the sniper interview real quick. Sure,

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<v Speaker 11>I think all those guys. I watched it, and and

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<v Speaker 11>I I felt scared about what's above us at the

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<v Speaker 11>secret service level. But one thing I'd like to share

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<v Speaker 6>These guys, these guys.

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<v Speaker 11>Were messing up the way I understood it. These guys

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<v Speaker 11>were messaging to us to a destination, and they believe

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<v Speaker 11>that all these things were being read, received, and maybe

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<v Speaker 11>acted on. But they I know, I didn't see anything

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<v Speaker 11>in the interview where they got uh uh uh you

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<v Speaker 11>know a response. They got a hey, we got this, Hey,

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<v Speaker 11>we acknowledged this, We're on it. They I And and

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<v Speaker 11>if I if I don't get a response, I start

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<v Speaker 11>going into a different action mode where nobody's responding. We

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<v Speaker 11>and and step up and say, hey, nobody's responding.

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<v Speaker 7>We know this is a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a different take. I think that's interesting. And

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<v Speaker 2>let's see if people agree or disagree with you on

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, yeah, yeah, All I'm saying is they did the

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<v Speaker 11>gotta do something different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I would agree, but I'm not sure that those

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<v Speaker 11>They were probably given they were given instructions and orders

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<v Speaker 11>and you know, places to stand or whatever. But when

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<v Speaker 11>you you know, when when when it's a it's it's

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<v Speaker 11>got to make a strong decision. No one's responding to me.

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<v Speaker 6>I got to do something, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, let's see if people agree. I understand what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying. Totally, Thanks Trevor.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you called before.

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<v Speaker 11>Is this your first time, No, I've called.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm usually from Chelsetood.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm trying to get some time up in Maine.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you. Okay, Thanks Trevor, to talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night. Well, take a break. Here's the news at

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Com Back to the phones, Kevin in South Carolina. Kevin,

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<v Speaker 2>you were next on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 12>Welcome, Hi, Dan, I'm talking about Trump's interview today. Yes,

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<v Speaker 12>you and I are the same generation. I remember Kennedy's

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<v Speaker 12>election in sixty and back then things were policies. What

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<v Speaker 12>last fifteen to twenty years we get more into identity.

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<v Speaker 12>Now you had like John F. John Kerry. Everybody thought

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<v Speaker 12>he was Irish. Then we found out he wasn't. He's Austrian,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, he used it to his political gang. He

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<v Speaker 12>never said he was Irish, but he never said he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 12>Then you had Elizabeth Warren. She claimed she was native American.

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<v Speaker 12>We found out power out the Indian boy had more

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<v Speaker 12>DNA than her. And right now up in Massachusetts you

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<v Speaker 12>have the Connie and the Shoba during the verge of closing,

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<v Speaker 12>leaving all these people out of hospital. She's nowhere to

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<v Speaker 12>be seen. If it's not going to benefit her, She's

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<v Speaker 12>kind of gone off somewhere else to help the Harris campaign.

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<v Speaker 12>Joel Harris. Her family's Jamaican and Indian. She's not an

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<v Speaker 12>African American family with a history of enslavement who picked cotton.

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<v Speaker 12>The Irish Times did a story on him and found

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<v Speaker 12>out she is an Irish ancestor and he all the

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<v Speaker 12>slaves in Jamaica. You know, her parents were college professors.

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<v Speaker 12>She went to a private academy in Montreal and to

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<v Speaker 12>Howard University, a black college. The people I know down

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<v Speaker 12>here in South Carolina, they have no connection with her.

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<v Speaker 12>They have debly, some struggle for years. Some of them

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<v Speaker 12>can tell you the whole family history back to being

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<v Speaker 12>enslaved during before the Civil War. There's no connection between.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so result many of the things you said is

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<v Speaker 2>true her. I guess her mom was a college professor,

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<v Speaker 2>was teaching up in Canada, and she went to high

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<v Speaker 2>school in Canada. I get all of that. I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>that before, and I think that those are interesting facts.

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<v Speaker 2>But for former President Trump to spend part of his

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<v Speaker 2>day trying to dissect and make the comment that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she was always Indian, meaning from you know, from India,

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<v Speaker 2>from the nation her parents or mom was from Indian

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<v Speaker 2>India and that then I think the comment he used

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<v Speaker 2>was she became black.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think I think the worrying for him

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<v Speaker 7>was poor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's always poor, but I think it's intentionally poor.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, why do you want to even go there? Okay? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And I just think that everyone knows that follows this uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that she is of mixed parentage, just as Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 2>was of mixed parentage, and Barack Obama was considered to

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<v Speaker 2>be the first and is the first black American president,

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<v Speaker 2>African American, whatever you want to call it. What's what

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<v Speaker 2>is the plus for Donald Trump in doing it this way?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it? Does it is his base that week that

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<v Speaker 2>he has to strengthen his base. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost as if I don't know that he really

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<v Speaker 2>wants to win the White House. Now.

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<v Speaker 12>I think we've devall to this identity politics and doesn't

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<v Speaker 12>do anybody any good because you want the policy, I

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<v Speaker 12>want to know what you're going to do I don't

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<v Speaker 12>care what you have it you look like, what do

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<v Speaker 12>you want to do it for me?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a stark. As I said earlier, on most policy issues,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a lot closer to Donald Trump than I am

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<v Speaker 2>to Kamala Harris. You know me if you listen to

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<v Speaker 2>my program regularly the United if you do. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, there's a certain manner that I want

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<v Speaker 2>the President of the United States to embody. I want

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<v Speaker 2>him to be intelligent. I wanted to be respectful. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not looking for Don Rickles to be president.

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<v Speaker 12>Either of mine. Okay, no, but another thing, just quickly.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, Kennedy was sixty years ago when Walter Cronkai

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<v Speaker 12>could on the TV. We believed every word he said.

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<v Speaker 12>I can't say that about anybody on the TV today,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, And next week August eighth, Nixon would be resigned.

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<v Speaker 12>Fifty years we trusted Woodward and Bernstein, and today everyone

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<v Speaker 12>on TV, every supposed news reporter, every supposed journalist, everything

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<v Speaker 12>has a slant. No one has given me the truth.

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<v Speaker 12>Probably in twenty years. I have to go out and

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<v Speaker 12>pick like you do, pick and look at all these

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<v Speaker 12>different reports and pull everything out and think I know

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<v Speaker 12>the truth from all the different reporting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's two things. A lot of people go to

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<v Speaker 2>the cable news network that they agree with. It's called

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<v Speaker 2>being in your silo. So you just you just listen

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<v Speaker 2>to people who tell you what you want to hear,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to getting a variety of opinions. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you, I was a TV reporter here in

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<v Speaker 2>Boston for thirty one years, and I used to delight

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<v Speaker 2>when people will come up to me and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched you on TV. I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>your politics are.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh yeah, I understand that. I didn't eat if he

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<v Speaker 12>ye iss until you've got in the radio. You were,

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<v Speaker 12>You were Don the reporter, and you went out and

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<v Speaker 12>all these reporters.

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<v Speaker 2>You went out.

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<v Speaker 12>You call people up and you check things, You check

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<v Speaker 12>the facts, you check the reports, and talk to three

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<v Speaker 12>people didn't know each other. And when they told you

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<v Speaker 12>the same thing, he said, I think I'm on the

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<v Speaker 12>right track. No one does it anymore. No one checks

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<v Speaker 12>people's histories who run for politics where they will problem

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<v Speaker 12>with their money comes from? Anything for that And what's

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<v Speaker 12>the real reason for running? Are they really the candidate

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<v Speaker 12>or is there some constortion behind them? It's really telling

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<v Speaker 12>them what to do. You don't know that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing, the other thing too is the meetia's

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<v Speaker 2>got sophisticated because it's not only what stories they cover,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's what stories they choose not to cover. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>our nightly newscaster thirty minutes, so you get everything you

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<v Speaker 2>need to know, supposedly in thirty minutes. Well, I watched

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<v Speaker 2>TV during the day, and I try to watch CNN,

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<v Speaker 2>try to watch a little bit of Fox, and at

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<v Speaker 2>night I try to watch I tend to watch ABC

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, I find that to be a better

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<v Speaker 2>nightly broadcast than some of the other nightly stations. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have my questions about them as well. Walter Cronkett

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<v Speaker 2>was around a long time and people came to know

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<v Speaker 2>and came came to respect and trust him.

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<v Speaker 12>The night he turned on the Johnson in the Vietnam War,

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<v Speaker 12>and Johnson turned to Dean Rusk and said, we've lost.

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<v Speaker 12>If I lost Walter, I've lost the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, you got a good memory, Kevin. Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 12>Age. You know, we we don't run of all timers yet,

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<v Speaker 12>but we do it. It's gonna be very sad because

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<v Speaker 12>we're gonna lose a lot of stories. We know.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hope neither one of us are ever touched by that.

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<v Speaker 7>That's I hope I just get hit by a pass.

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<v Speaker 12>Will be easier, Kevin, good.

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<v Speaker 2>Night, Talk to you soon. Good night. All right, we

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<v Speaker 2>got to take quick break, got a break coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna continue to roll, coming right back here on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on w BZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I love me, Go to D and Mathu and D

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<v Speaker 2>you were next one Nightside. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh Hi Dan, long time, No see no here, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Well, that's not my fault.

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<v Speaker 5>I know I'm a rigid Well I was from Cambridge

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<v Speaker 5>and I remember you remember way back when you were

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<v Speaker 5>an editorial I'm trying to think what newspaper now. But

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<v Speaker 5>as I said before, I know you from wayback.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on WBZTV for thirty one years.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I know that, but I'm just trying to remember you.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I told you before you were such a young, handsome,

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<v Speaker 5>young reporter that everybody was going up to you and

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<v Speaker 5>saying hello, which includes me. Well, yes, nice to hear

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<v Speaker 5>from you. I do want to say something if I

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<v Speaker 5>can stand. Thank you. No one seems to talk about

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<v Speaker 5>that Biden's policies are going to be her policy. True,

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<v Speaker 5>Am I right? On that day?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think she made I think that Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>Harris is going to be a little more even the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of than than President Biden.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, I mean, uh, And could I just state

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<v Speaker 5>one more point if I could. Letting all these migrants

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<v Speaker 5>into the country for the vote is the worst thing

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<v Speaker 5>I've ever experienced. And I'm in my eighties, and you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, they're going to get away with it, And

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<v Speaker 5>that is what bothers me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean. Elizabeth Warren, our senior senator here in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>said the other day, we have to find the path

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<v Speaker 2>the citizenship for the people who have come here illegally.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she, of course didn't say that. She referred

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<v Speaker 2>to what we need to welcome our newcomers or some

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<v Speaker 2>some euphemism like that. Yeah, I think we need to

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<v Speaker 2>expedite people who are standing in line around the country

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<v Speaker 2>and who are doing it properly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's exactly right, exactly right. But

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<v Speaker 5>I had to say that. And also I want someone

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<v Speaker 5>who's going to put America first, because I've seen so

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<v Speaker 5>many things in my lifetime that I happen to like

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump. I know he can be a bit spicy

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<v Speaker 5>at times and all that type of thing, but I

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<v Speaker 5>think his heart is in the right place and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to vote for him, all right. But I just

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<v Speaker 5>thought I called and tell you, well, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this your first time calling my show?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I called you before. Dan, I'm telling you you

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<v Speaker 5>were a great little reporter. Everyone wanted to speak with you,

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<v Speaker 5>but you were blonder then.

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<v Speaker 12>I think, thanks, Well, just remember this all.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a haircut today and if you I still

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<v Speaker 2>have it up there is. That's the point. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care what color it is, as long as as long

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<v Speaker 2>as I have a good I had TV here at

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<v Speaker 2>this described.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, yeah, well you covered many stories. We had

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<v Speaker 5>many many stories. I was in probation be forty years,

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<v Speaker 5>got all types of stories. I almost missed a job

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<v Speaker 5>to be truthful. Very nice to speak to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you talk to you again?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Good night? Right, good night. Next up we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill you in next on Nightside?

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<v Speaker 2>Go right ahead?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Thanks Dan? Hey, are you sitting down for this one?

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<v Speaker 7>I am Okay, listen, this is I was just over

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<v Speaker 7>to BFW tonight and there's maybe maybe thirteen fourteen guys

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<v Speaker 7>in there, a couple gals in there, every one of

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<v Speaker 7>them inside job. And we started discussing it, and uh,

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<v Speaker 7>one guy that was in military intelligence for one hundred

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<v Speaker 7>years comes up with this theory. This is the kind

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<v Speaker 7>of kid that the CIA would recruit for a job

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<v Speaker 7>like this. And you noticed that it happened after they

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<v Speaker 7>thought for sure they were going to put Trump in jail,

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<v Speaker 7>and when the Supreme Court came down and said that no,

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<v Speaker 7>in fact, the president does have immunity in certain cases.

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<v Speaker 7>That's when they went to plan B that they were

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<v Speaker 7>sitting on the shelf.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know about that. I feel you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you, if that is true, we

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<v Speaker 2>are now a banana republic.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, if a banana republic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I mean, if that's true, I hope and

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<v Speaker 2>believe it is not true. By the way, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>inconceivable that Donald Trump is going to be By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Donald Trump has a sentencing hearing on September

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<v Speaker 2>eighth on that case in New York. It's conceivable that

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<v Speaker 2>that judge might say, hey, we're putting in the in

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<v Speaker 2>jail for sixty days or whatever. I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he's likely to do that. But that's a pretty damn.

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<v Speaker 7>Interesting judge this case here, Okay, it's it's this is

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<v Speaker 7>the way they do things, all right. They go out

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<v Speaker 7>and they recruit a kid like that, and they put

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<v Speaker 7>them on the shelf, and when they need him, they

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<v Speaker 7>need them.

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<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen, when I saw that guy up there that took

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<v Speaker 7>over the Secret Service, Okay, he was. He didn't answer

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<v Speaker 7>all the questions, but a couple of things that he

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<v Speaker 7>said that just blew my mind, okay. Was one of

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<v Speaker 7>them was he couldn't tell us. Okay, he couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 7>what kind of a range finder it was. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 7>first thing. Okay, seventeen days into it, he should have

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<v Speaker 7>known exactly what kind of range finder that was. The

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<v Speaker 7>second thing was all right when he admitted that that

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<v Speaker 7>the Secret Service pulled their drone out of the box

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<v Speaker 7>and it didn't work. But by the way, the shooter

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<v Speaker 7>had his head his drone running around about an hour

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<v Speaker 7>and a half before that. And then and then the

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<v Speaker 7>Pennsylvania State Police come over and said, oh, what's wrong?

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<v Speaker 7>Your your your drone won't work here. We got a couple.

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<v Speaker 7>You can use one of ours. Now, if their main

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<v Speaker 7>purpose in life is to keep is, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 7>who to protect them, whether it be Trumper or Biden

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<v Speaker 7>or HARRISONI if they're offered a drone because theirs is

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<v Speaker 7>broken and the number one concern is to keep you know,

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<v Speaker 7>this person alive. Because by the way, the Iranians. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>one mile back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not disputing your theory. I'm not disputing your belief,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say. But if your theory is true, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope to God it isn't, then we are in

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<v Speaker 2>a Banana republic at this point. Okay, we are a

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<v Speaker 2>Banana republic.

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<v Speaker 7>But last thing, that the last thing, that last thing

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<v Speaker 7>that blew me away, Dan, was this Peter Struck and

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<v Speaker 7>Lisa Page. You get fired from the FBI because all

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<v Speaker 7>the shenanigans they pulled, all right, they sue the FBI

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<v Speaker 7>and the FBI okay without even going to court. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>it gives him one point two million and gives her

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<v Speaker 7>eight hundred thousand dollars. Tell me, we're not in the

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<v Speaker 7>Banana republic.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're convincing me. But but I'm just telling you

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<v Speaker 2>that not as a journalist, not having investigated all. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me finish, Plaze, I have an interrupted Bill, let me

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<v Speaker 2>finish as a journalist. I have to go back and

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<v Speaker 2>read the court documents, find out what the cause of

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<v Speaker 2>action is what I assume was it was improper termination

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. You know again, this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is a program where people like you and me get

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<v Speaker 2>to express our opinions. But if I sit here and say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, Bill, You're right, I agree with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be i would be lying to my audience

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<v Speaker 2>number one, and I'd be lying to you. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna sit here and say Bill, well, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I'm going to cut you off. That's the That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm what I try to do it. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a forum for ideas. I think that that you have

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<v Speaker 2>you have put together you know, issue A with issue B,

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<v Speaker 2>issue CEE, issue D or whatever. I don't see the

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<v Speaker 2>the connectivity that you see, and I hope to god

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<v Speaker 2>you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, the last thing I gotta say Dan is this,

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<v Speaker 7>if he starts getting way ahead in the polls against Kamala, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>they better put the better, they better beef his beef,

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<v Speaker 7>the guys, the guys that jumped on him, was the

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<v Speaker 7>guys that he better keep them around and get some

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<v Speaker 7>more like him, because once he starts getting, once he

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<v Speaker 7>starts getting.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't want to go here any further with you, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you calls your regular caller. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you go gave us your theories, but I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>down that road any further with you at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk again. I hope have a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>Here comes the eleven o'clock news on night Side Big

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