WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:13.240 Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado, 2 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:17.679 thirty years in the rain, fighting for truth, justice and 3 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:22.679 the American way. 4 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:26.000 The American radio is winning once again. So glad you 5 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:28.440 are here. A big news of the day, President Trump 6 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:32.679 just revoked Joe Biden's security clearance, which I think was 7 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:36.439 an absolutely necessary move. But we'll get more details, including 8 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:39.799 the President's tweet on that, and then we also are 9 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:41.520 going to have the privilege in a second. Really, one 10 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:43.880 of the best parts of this job, and there are 11 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:46.520 so many great parts over the years, has been getting 12 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:50.560 to talk to heroes in different forms around the state, 13 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:53.200 around the country, around the world. And one of those 14 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:56.640 joins us right now. Her name is Millie Freed, and 15 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:00.799 she's at the center of this very important story out 16 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:04.319 of Steamboat that's dominated our show for several days now, 17 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.400 where you had this this elk get caught in a 18 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.560 deep snowbank up to its neck and it was obviously 19 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.319 going to perish, and Milly tried very hard to save 20 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:17.920 the elks. She tried to get the state involved. The state, 21 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.959 in my view, very wrongly refused to help. Milly then 22 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:24.280 organized a rescue party, but by the time they got there, 23 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:27.359 it was too late. So Milly, welcome to the Dan 24 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:29.560 Kaplis Show. Appreciate you being here. 25 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:32.879 Thank you Dan, glad to be here. 26 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.400 Well, And Milly, if you'd be kind enough to just 27 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.879 tell the story through your own eyes. You know, I 28 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:40.599 brought it up on the show a few days ago, 29 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:43.920 and I thought that we talk about it for a segment. 30 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:45.840 Our segments are about nine minutes. I thought it was 31 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:48.480 so important to bring it up because I thought that 32 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.159 you were heroic. The state was so wrong not to 33 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:54.879 intervene and help, and your neighbors were so great to 34 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:57.359 come from miles away to try to help. But by 35 00:01:57.400 --> 00:01:59.799 then it was too late, and we've had so many 36 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.959 telling calls over the last three days on it. I'm 37 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:05.359 sure folks would love to hear the story from you. 38 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:11.280 Well, I'd love to tell it because unfortunately the paper 39 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:16.199 got some information wrong. Okay, So I'm glad you've given 40 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:18.520 me the opportunity to tell the story the way it 41 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:22.599 really played out. So what happened. I was coming back 42 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.560 one morning from town, and we live about twenty minutes 43 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:31.560 from Steamboat, so not far, and on my driveway up 44 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:35.560 to my home, I see this beautiful elk standing by 45 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.680 the fence, and I snapped the photo of it because 46 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:43.439 she looked beautiful. And as I passed her very slowly 47 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.000 because I didn't want to spooker, I still managed to 48 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:50.240 spook her and she turned around and ran back down 49 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:54.800 into this gully where there's this seasonal stream and these 50 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.599 aspen trees. And as she ran, I was watching her 51 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:00.960 in my rear view mirror, and I could see she 52 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.919 was running through this heavy snow that was deep. And 53 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.479 I looked and I thought, you know, elk live in 54 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:10.360 the forest, this is what they do. I'm sure she'll 55 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.840 be fine. I didn't really give it much thought. And 56 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:18.800 then later that afternoon, early afternoon, my husband went out 57 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:22.000 without dogs to give him a walk, and he told 58 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.439 me that the elk was still there, and she snapped 59 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:27.840 the photo of it, and we went out and we 60 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.199 had a look, and she was pretty much up to 61 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:33.319 her neck and you could see that she was trying. 62 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:35.599 You could see the path that she had made in 63 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:39.280 the snow trying to get out, but she just couldn't 64 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:41.520 get out. It was too deep and heavy and wet. 65 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.599 So at that point I called CPW and told him 66 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:50.599 what had happened, and sent them a photo of the elk, 67 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:54.240 the original photo and then the second photo showing that 68 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:58.240 she was stuck up to her neck in snow. They 69 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:01.240 called me back and said that, you know, they'd hate 70 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.280 to have to put a bullet in her, and that 71 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:08.120 we should just let nature take its course. And the 72 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:13.280 ranger seemed to think that she was somewhat thin. Well, 73 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:16.000 I'm not an expert in elk, so I don't know, 74 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:18.439 but she looked pretty healthy to me, but I guess 75 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:24.439 she was fin and I kind of just took his advice. 76 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:27.519 And I really am upset with myself for doing that, 77 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:33.560 because later that afternoon, early evening, my husband went back 78 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:37.040 out to check on her and she was still there 79 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:41.360 and she wasn't getting out, And at that point I started, 80 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:43.519 I thought, forget it. I'm not waiting for this guy. 81 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:45.800 I'm not waiting for CPW. We're just going to get 82 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.120 the neighbors and we're going to dig a path out 83 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:52.000 for her, you know. So got on the phone and 84 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:55.839 started calling, and there were several neighbors that said they 85 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.879 wanted to come out that night and try to do 86 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:03.720 it in the dark, and because of the terrain being uneven, 87 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.800 we and we didn't have the lighting to make it 88 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:10.600 fully bright. I didn't think it was smart because I 89 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.360 didn't want anyone else to get hurt in the process. 90 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:19.839 So we decided to wait until first light and get 91 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:24.439 everybody you know together and start digging. And subsequently in 92 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:28.360 the group is a neighbor who's young and he does hunting, 93 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:32.279 and he was giving us some ideas on what would 94 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:36.000 be the best way to dig this path and to 95 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:39.160 get her to go down it. So we were taking 96 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:43.000 his advice and the plan was first thing, first light, 97 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:44.600 we were all going to get together, and there was 98 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:48.319 about ten of us, and we all live on fair 99 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:52.360 amounts of acreage, and so some people were coming from 100 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:56.680 five miles away. And so in the morning, my husband 101 00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:59.439 went out at six point thirty in the morning to 102 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:01.800 see how the elk was doing and if she had 103 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:05.560 survived the night, and she was fine at six thirty 104 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:08.720 in the morning, so he raced back up to the 105 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:10.759 house and grabbed a cup of coffee and went back 106 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.920 down to meet all the neighbors at first light, which 107 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:17.560 was at seventh in the morning, and by the time 108 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:22.959 he got back there, she had passed away. It was 109 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:28.360 really really tragic because the point of the story was 110 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:32.240 I needed CPW to come out, and that's the animals. 111 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.720 They needed to come out and see if she was injured, 112 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:38.519 if she was diseased, if she was whatever was wrong 113 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.720 with her or not, and if if she really wasn't 114 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:44.920 going to make it through the night, and put the 115 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:47.639 animal out of its misery. Don't make it suffer in 116 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:53.279 the freezing cold and in pain for twenty four hours. 117 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:56.759 And that was the the the infuriating part of this 118 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:01.560 whole story, and the fact that so many willing neighbors, 119 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:05.040 so many compassionate people, didn't felt the way I did. 120 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.160 That they were willing to own well being to come 121 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:10.720 out and try and dig this animal in the dark. 122 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.759 Well, God love you. I mean, you guys did everything right. 123 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.519 I mean you are the best of all of us 124 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:22.160 right in this state. Let you down. The state left 125 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:25.839 this animal down. And I just don't understand that being 126 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:29.519 willing to allow a creature to suffer all night freezing 127 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:32.959 like that, I just don't get that. As you say, okay, 128 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:34.720 if you're not going to free the animal, and I 129 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.360 think they should have freed the animal that then just 130 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:42.160 put it out of its misery. Correct, Oh, how heartbreaking 131 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.319 and how tough for you and your husband to go 132 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:47.199 through this and your friends because you're doing all this work, 133 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:49.920 you're doing everything to save this animal, and you're just 134 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:54.720 not getting the help from the authorities who get everybody's 135 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:58.720 tax dollars so they can go do these things. 136 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:03.000 And the funny thing is we don't live so rule 137 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.120 that it was a distance for the ranger to come. 138 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:09.040 You know, we live on roads. It's twenty minute drive out. 139 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.920 It's not a big deal. All he had to do 140 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:15.879 was just come look at the animal and didn't want 141 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:16.360 to do that. 142 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:20.680 Oh, so it would have been to Milly freed, our guests, 143 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:23.279 just a real hero here who was let down in 144 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.480 my view, by the state. But million, how far would 145 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:26.560 the ranger have had to come? 146 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:31.360 I think we're about fourteen miles from town. Twelve No, 147 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:33.159 twelve miles twelve mile from town. 148 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:36.759 Oh, give me a breaking Yeah, I don't care if 149 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:40.080 it was an hour. I mean, that's that should be. 150 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:43.080 And we heard yesterday from a gentleman who'd been with 151 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.159 Parks and Wildlife forever and he was outraged about what 152 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:48.679 had happened to you and what had happened to this 153 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:51.120 beautiful elk. And he told all these stories about in 154 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:55.279 his thirty years there, how they would be rescuing bats 155 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:59.360 even and deer and fawn and elk, and they'd go 156 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:03.000 in to get him abilitated. So this, to me, my opinion, 157 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:06.720 just heartless and wrong. But you guys, you guys, just 158 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:10.039 I think you've struck a chord with people all over 159 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:15.080 the state because just just so many people just outraged 160 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:17.639 letting this animal suffer. Now, as you know, and I'm 161 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:19.320 so glad you joined us on air. There was this 162 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:23.639 mention in the paper saying that the elk had perished 163 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:26.399 while you guys were having a breakfast, which would have 164 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.320 been in my mind, perfectly appropriate get some fuel before 165 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:31.960 you go out there. But it sounds like you guys 166 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:33.759 had gathered and were ready to go out when the 167 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:34.519 elk passed. 168 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:39.440 Correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, had we were ready to 169 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:44.879 go at first life. Wow, And that was a misrepresentation 170 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:49.000 on the paper's part, but yeah, we were ready to go. 171 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:53.039 And I feel badly because when the ranger told me 172 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:57.000 that early afternoon, I should have jumped on it and 173 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:59.840 just called everybody, and maybe we would have been able 174 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:02.360 to do something before I don't know. 175 00:10:02.440 --> 00:10:07.080 But you did everything right and at that point, you've 176 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.080 reached out to authorities. They've said, you know, the animal 177 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:14.519 will work it out essentially right, and you waited to 178 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:16.240 see if that would happen. Now, I think you are 179 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.320 absolutely heroic here, and my understand, Millie, can you join 180 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:21.799 us for part of the next segment? 181 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:23.559 Sure? Yeah. 182 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.120 I don't want to rush the end of this because 183 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.159 there are a couple of more questions and I know 184 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:30.960 that people are just really really wanting to hear from 185 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.240 you on this. So if you just joined us, Milli 186 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:36.159 Freed that the woman who so heroically, along with others, 187 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.000 tried to save this elk will stay with us for 188 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:40.960 one more segment. I have a couple of follow up 189 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:44.000 questions based on some news reports here on the Dankpla show. No, 190 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:46.679 we've got a real hero on the line. Milli Freed 191 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:50.200 is with us. This wonderful woman from Steamboat who, along 192 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:53.519 with her neighbors, took extraordinary action to try to save 193 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:57.200 an elk that was dying, that was freezing to death. 194 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:00.440 And this was after the state in mind you had 195 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.039 abandoned her. She did everything right. She was trying to 196 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:06.120 get the state's help to either save the animal or 197 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:09.759 to end its misery. So the animal wasn't stuck in 198 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.519 its up to its neck in snow all night and 199 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:15.759 dying a long and painful death. So we're grateful to 200 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:18.159 have Milly with us because so many people around the 201 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:21.120 state are so interested in this story. Mellian, I'm looking 202 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.919 at a quote from Abraham Lincoln. I am in favor 203 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.639 of animal rights as well as human rights. That is 204 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:29.879 the way of the whole human being. And Albert Einstein, 205 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:33.000 if a man aspires toward a righteous life, his first 206 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:36.039 act of abstinence is from injury to animals. I mean, 207 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:40.519 we all know right that any decent person would never 208 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:43.759 excuse me, let an animal sit there and writhe in pain. 209 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:45.960 So thank you for what you did to try to 210 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:49.559 save the animal, and I hope the state has learned 211 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:52.559 from this. Has there been any follow up from the 212 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.720 state after all of this publicity? 213 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:01.840 No, no, I think I they didn't. The paper did 214 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:06.840 not interview the rangers that I spoke with, and they 215 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:09.480 just kind of said, well, let nature take its course, 216 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:15.039 which I found was not right. And everybody else that's 217 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:17.440 read the article has been up in arms over it. 218 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:20.919 Yeah, it sounds like code for laziness to me, and 219 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:23.159 then when we hear from this gentleman yesterday you said 220 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:26.559 he was a ranger or higher up for thirty years, 221 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:29.600 and the extraordinary links they would go to as rangers 222 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:35.360 to alleviate suffering of animals, to save animals, it just 223 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:38.960 sounds so wrong. There's been a lot of questions also 224 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:42.320 about the health of the animal. You've described it as 225 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:46.279 a beautiful elk, and then I think at least the 226 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:49.320 status tried to imply that the animal was some sort 227 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:53.879 of sickly beast. But my understanding is, if anything, it 228 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:56.000 was thin and needed some food. 229 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:01.960 Yes, it looked and actually I mentioned I thought, can 230 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:07.320 we take it some food? But no, apparently the ranger 231 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:10.919 from the photograph that I seemed to think that the 232 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:15.840 animal was. Then what we discovered when the animal passed, 233 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:19.840 we called them up. They came out of the house. 234 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:23.519 Then after the animals died to look at it, to 235 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:27.480 look at it to determine if it was diseased or sick, 236 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:32.600 and the ranger determined that it was not, And a 237 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:36.279 neighbor of ows actually pulled the elk out of the 238 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:40.399 snow and we discovered that it had a broken leg. 239 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:46.720 So when it turned and ran is when it broke 240 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:47.399 its leg. 241 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:51.000 You know, And I'm sorry, but I'm just furious that 242 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:55.120 you did everything right and the state didn't come out 243 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:58.399 and just put that animal out of its misery. I 244 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:03.000 just don't understand that mentality is somebody in the States 245 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:04.679 that this is their job and they're going to let 246 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:09.919 that animal sit there and suffer for ten, twelve, fifteen hours. 247 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:13.200 I couldn't agree with you more. And I think if 248 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:17.519 somebody the ranger that didn't do his job, I think 249 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:20.679 the States should have taken responsibility and said, hey, yeah, 250 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:23.000 didn't do it. We're going to look into this, we're 251 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:24.639 going to fix it. We're going to make sure this 252 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:27.879 doesn't happen again. But if you read the article when 253 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:33.039 they interviewed CPW, it was more of just well, you know, 254 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.679 we'll it na sture take its course, yeah, which I 255 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:37.679 think is so very wrong. 256 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:40.159 No, I do too, And what I took from the 257 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:45.720 article was just a bunch of bureaucratic cya type of stuff. 258 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.720 And I'm with you, Listen, I mess up in my life, 259 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:51.720 and then I've been raised since I was a little kid. Okay, 260 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.399 you make a mistake, admit it, do better, don't do 261 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.440 it again. Learn from it, and there's no indication that 262 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.000 the state's going to learn from this change what they're doing. 263 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:06.080 I agree with you. I didn't get that impression at all, 264 00:15:06.679 --> 00:15:08.960 and I was hoping maybe they would follow up, but 265 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:13.279 as you mentioned, they have not. Nobody's called nothing. 266 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:14.159 Well. 267 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:17.799 I am so thankful to you, you know, for you 268 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.120 were there. You were on the scene doing everything that 269 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:23.559 you could, to your neighbors who came out at first light, 270 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:25.559 you know, came out at six thirty in the morning 271 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:27.879 with shovels to try to save that animal. I mean, 272 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:30.519 you represent the best of us, and I'm just so 273 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.279 sorry the state let you down. I'm still hopeful that 274 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:36.919 even though they're not admitting their failure, that based upon 275 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:40.840 the media coverage of this and you having the courage 276 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:43.120 to speak out, that maybe they'll do it better next time. 277 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.360 And maybe you know, you did everything you could to 278 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:47.679 save this animal, but maybe what you've really done is 279 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:49.559 save a lot more animals down the road. 280 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:52.919 And you know, it's funny that you say that, because 281 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:57.600 that's what everybody's been saying, that maybe this animal it 282 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:00.799 will represent that other animals will get save down the road. 283 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:01.960 So I certainly hope so. 284 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:05.559 Right well, thank you million, thanks for joining us today. 285 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:07.240 I hope we meet in person someday. 286 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:10.039 That would be lovely. Thanks Dan, you. 287 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:13.120 Take care of that is MILLI freed And you know, 288 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:15.759 a lot of good people in the world, you know, 289 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:18.320 you know how news is. It's news because it's different, 290 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:21.039 so it's usually bad stuff. But there's so many great 291 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:23.200 people in the world. And I'm really really happy we 292 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.200 had a chance to talk to Millie. And I've got 293 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.759 to believe probably ninety five to ninety eight percent of 294 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:34.120 the folks who are joining this conversation right now, you know, 295 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.919 would applaud million want to do the same thing, because 296 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.000 I just think we're created that way. We're wired that way, 297 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:44.720 you know, to want to alleviate suffering and animals we 298 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:47.000 have this stewardship, right whether you believe in God or not, 299 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.440 you just know it the way you're wired, we have 300 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:51.960 this stewardship. We're responsible for him. And yeah, we're supposed 301 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.600 to eat them because we're supposed to sustain and continue 302 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:56.919 on this earth and be healthy and strong, but we're 303 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.879 supposed to treat them with respect. And the ultimate dissor 304 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:05.440 inspect is letting an animal suffer in pain like that 305 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:10.400 hour after hour no, and hopefully the state got the message. 306 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:12.960 Even though they're not, you know, person enough to admit 307 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:16.279 it that this is wrong. It will not be accepted 308 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:18.440 by the people. I'll bet you we'll never know for sure, right, 309 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:21.680 but I'll bet you that Millie has saved a lot 310 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:25.759 of other animals in the future by speaking out on this. 311 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:27.839 Eight F five or zero five A two five five 312 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:30.440 the number takes d A N five seven seven thirty nine. 313 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.000 Will take text and calls on this when we come back. 314 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:36.559 But then also a news of the day President Trump 315 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:40.680 short time ago, he cancels Joe Biden's security clearance, which 316 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:44.440 I think is absolutely essential, and I'd be surprised if 317 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:46.880 anybody on either side of the aisle will oppose that, 318 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.240 and I hope they do, just because again it's what 319 00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:54.160 Scott Jennings said yesterday, right, Trump's taking the eighty side 320 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:57.160 of all these eighty twenty issues, and then Democrats just 321 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:00.440 because they, hey, Trump are taking the twenty side, which 322 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:04.599 is beautiful because it just exposes that the Democratic Party 323 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:08.279 for what it has become and an American needs, because 324 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.359 America needs the Democratic Party to fail, it needs the 325 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:16.759 modern Democratic Party to fail. And the Democratic Party fortunately 326 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:20.079 is cooperating in that essential endeavor eight five five for 327 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:22.400 zero five eight two five five text d an five 328 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.359 seven seven thirty nine You're on the Dan Kapla Show 329 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:28.400 five thirty five. Glad you're here thanks to Millie Freed, 330 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:32.119 the wonderful woman from Steamboat who went to such heroic 331 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:35.880 links to save that elk, that elk who died such 332 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:38.839 a slow and painful death because the state wouldn't respond, 333 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:42.119 either rescue it or to put it out of its misery. 334 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:45.400 So but but it just comes back to, and I'm 335 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:46.599 sure you've seen it in your own life in a 336 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:49.440 hundred different ways, right that that people are so good, 337 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:52.599 you know, people who disagree with you on political stuff, 338 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.359 people who you know, whatever. But just yeah, there's evil 339 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:57.880 in the world and all that, but there's so much 340 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.400 goodness in so many people, and so often animal bring 341 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:03.559 it out, which makes it so cruelly ironic that it's 342 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:08.160 the professionals here up but parks and wildlife who don't 343 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:11.440 respond to aid this animal and listen. I have no doubt. 344 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.160 I don't interact with parks and wildlife much. I have 345 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.839 no doubt the vast majority of people are great and 346 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:19.079 care about animals and do a lot of heroic things 347 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.720 we never think about. But this was an abject failure. 348 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:25.799 They failed Milli Free, they failed her husband, they failed 349 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:27.680 all the neighbors who showed up at six thirty in 350 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:29.960 the morning with shovels to try to save the animal. 351 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:32.680 And above all, they failed the animal, which died this 352 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:35.680 slow and painful death, buried up to its neck in 353 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:39.599 a snowbank for hours and hours and hours. So hey, 354 00:19:39.640 --> 00:19:41.960 we all fail at some point, right, But you got 355 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:43.960 to admit it, You got to learn the lesson, and 356 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:45.960 you got to vow it's never going to happen again. 357 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:48.640 And instead we get, in my opinion, a bunch of 358 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:53.759 bureaucratic bs. Yeah, not right. And it may go too, 359 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:56.839 It may go to this whole, you know, lessening of 360 00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:59.319 standards in America, which has been I think part of 361 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:02.680 a certain only the result of the left, and I 362 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:05.039 think maybe a conscious type of effort on the part 363 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:06.960 of the left, because obviously, you know, what does the 364 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:10.799 left want? And I'm not blaming the left for what happened. 365 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:14.079 This was a failure by the government from which it 366 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:16.799 needs to learn. I'm now getting to a broader issue. 367 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:18.599 Have we got to be better than that. What happened 368 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.480 to excellence in miracle? We got excellence from Milli Freed 369 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:25.200 and her husband and their friends, and then we got 370 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.200 the opposite of that from the State, and a poor 371 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:30.240 animal suffered hour after hour after hour, and none of 372 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.720 us listen to have to be theologians to get it. 373 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:37.319 Anybody out there is any belief in God, they know 374 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:40.079 because they know because they're wired that way and everything 375 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:43.799 they've read and the Bible and everything else, that if 376 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:48.200 you're going to abuse animals, I mean, you know, good 377 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:50.920 luck in the next round. And to me, letting an 378 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:55.119 animal just sit there and linger in pain. Yeah, yeah, 379 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:59.480 So Milly and her friends heroes and the States got 380 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:01.759 to learn from sate five for zero five A two 381 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:05.519 five five the number Biden is security clearance canceled. And 382 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:09.319 it'll be interesting to see if there's any pushback from 383 00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:11.680 the left and that how could there be you know, 384 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:15.880 how could Trump justified leaving Biden with security clearance for 385 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:20.039 even another minute? Right when? I mean, look at the 386 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:21.920 her report and I read the whole darn thing. By 387 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:24.519 the way, I can't remember how many I think I 388 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:27.559 think it was hundreds of pages and I read it all, 389 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:34.000 and so even back then, even back then, you know 390 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:37.480 that the only reason this Biden wasn't prosecuted for compromising 391 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:42.519 our national secrets is as a prosecutor believed that Biden 392 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:47.279 was so mentally deficient that a jury would conclude that 393 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:52.000 he didn't even remember what he had done. So, yeah, 394 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:54.359 I think Trump did absolutely the right thing. Let me 395 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:58.319 read you the verbat him on that tweet this afternoon. 396 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:01.000 There is no need for Joe Biden to continue receiving 397 00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:05.119 access to classified information. Therefore, we are immediately revoking Joe 398 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:09.680 Biden's security clearances and stopping his daily intelligence briefings. He 399 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:12.519 set this president in twenty twenty one when he instructed 400 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:15.480 the IC to stop the forty fifth president of the 401 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:20.200