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Speaker 1: So do you like your cast members? Are they people
Speaker 1: you've worked with before in adult theater?
Speaker 3: Most of them? Yes? Oh that's nice. I mean most
Speaker 3: of them I've worked with. Yeah, there's a familiarity. Good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Was that the end line of questions?
Speaker 1: How far along is a rehearsal situation? Are you guys
Speaker 1: pretty much done with it?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: How far along are you into the play? Do you
Speaker 1: do it like act one? Or do you do like
Speaker 1: How does it go?
Speaker 2: There's four acts right up to this point, we've done one.
Speaker 3: Act per rehearsal.
Speaker 2: I see, so we do Act one notes, turn around,
Speaker 2: start from the beginning, do it again, turn around, do
Speaker 2: it from the beginning. That's how we've done it. This weekend,
Speaker 2: we start with we're going to do X one and
Speaker 2: two together, ah, and then three and four and then
Speaker 2: by sometime next weekend probably we'll do all all of
Speaker 2: them together.
Speaker 1: Is there somebody who's a weaker cast member who forgets
Speaker 1: their lines and you're like.
Speaker 3: Bob, Yes, Bob is a jerk.
Speaker 1: Who doesn't do the work unl unless they're listening a
Speaker 1: world in which they could listen to the show, there's.
Speaker 2: Nobody who's not a professional.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what's going on? All right?
Speaker 4: Good good morning, Gary and Shannon. Yes, my six year
Speaker 4: old grandson calls me yah yah, so every time I
Speaker 4: hear his name, it just is cringey.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 4: Plus, my name is Katrina, just like the hurricane.
Speaker 3: Oh great, two fir. That's awesome.
Speaker 5: It's great that you guys talked about testicles. It's actually
Speaker 5: a very important subject because the testosterones inside those testicals,
Speaker 5: that testosterone gives the man or male or an animal
Speaker 5: their ego, their power. They're forced and you're going to
Speaker 5: hear more about this very very soon to hopefully air
Speaker 5: on your show.
Speaker 3: Really, Ay bye, Jacob.
Speaker 1: Do you and Steve have a testicle special that you're working.
Speaker 3: On, not that I know of, No, huh.
Speaker 1: I wonder when we're going to hear more. Is there
Speaker 1: some sort of testical movement upon us?
Speaker 3: Is there a breakthrough?
Speaker 1: Is this like when RFK or JFK Junior was supposed
Speaker 1: to show up in Detroit or something?
Speaker 3: Oh, and Jesus too, right?
Speaker 1: And Jesus is this is there like a testicles the
Speaker 1: moment that's going to happen.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We should research us. I didn't know that we were
Speaker 1: going to hearing more about testicles. Furthermore, Yes, I wonder
Speaker 1: where my ego comes from because I don't have testicles.
Speaker 1: And if it's in the testicles, why are you looking
Speaker 1: at me like that?
Speaker 2: I just feel like you're undercutting you. Also do have
Speaker 2: testosterone in your body, right, clearly I should probably get
Speaker 2: that checked. Nah, maybe I should take something. What do
Speaker 2: you take to make yourself more of us?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You probably take estrogen or progest awful. I do
Speaker 3: not want more of that. I don't know how to
Speaker 3: all right, what do you want to do?
Speaker 1: You want to do the dead person on the beach
Speaker 1: or do you want to do a diet soda?
Speaker 2: Well, let's just do the diet soda thing. Because we've
Speaker 2: talked about wellness issues before, foods that we eat, et cetera,
Speaker 2: and people being caught up in this whole idea that
Speaker 2: if you drink a diet soda you can do the
Speaker 2: double happy meal or whatever you're doing.
Speaker 3: And I've been caught up with that as well.
Speaker 2: But a Harvard trained gastro enterologist has come out with
Speaker 2: a video specifically detailing four reasons why you looking at
Speaker 2: you specifically should not drink diet soda.
Speaker 3: Harvard and Stanford Coast to.
Speaker 2: Coast dot surub uh saab Seti says, first of all,
Speaker 2: women who drink two or more diet sodas a day,
Speaker 2: Now that's a lot. That is a lot, but there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people who do that. One or two
Speaker 2: of drink diet sodas a day. For women, they face
Speaker 2: a significantly higher risk of heart attack and stroke. And
Speaker 2: they said it's specifically dangerous for women who don't have
Speaker 2: a history of heart disease or diabetes. That the second
Speaker 2: thing is the high phosphorus content in diet sodas can
Speaker 2: contribute to chronic kidney disease.
Speaker 3: I drink like a half a cup once a week.
Speaker 2: You don't even finish. Yeah, I say, you don't finish
Speaker 2: that bottle that you drink. The third thing, drinking diet
Speaker 2: sodas can negatively impact insulin sensitivity and disrupt your gut biome.
Speaker 1: What about testosterone? Is there anything in there about that.
Speaker 2: I probably would strip away whatever testosterone you have. Really,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just making that part up. Finally,
Speaker 2: the doctor said, diet sodas can increase your cravings for
Speaker 2: those high calorie foods, disrupting appetite control, which is part
Speaker 2: of the reason why you think you're drinking diet coke
Speaker 2: in the first place, is because it's not going to
Speaker 2: make you eat those high calorie foods, when in fact
Speaker 2: that's what it is. There is a push going on,
Speaker 2: by the way, between RFK Junior and his new would
Speaker 2: you say, companionship with former President Trump in the campaign.
Speaker 3: One of the things that go ahead, You're right, what.
Speaker 1: Aspartame in particular inhibits the synthesis and the secretion of testosterone.
Speaker 3: That was a wild guess on my part.
Speaker 1: Well, you're a doctor now, apparently, screw Harvard and screw Stanford.
Speaker 2: One of the things RFK it wants to do is
Speaker 2: he says we're going to become the healthiest nation on Earth.
Speaker 2: And that's why we use the term MAHA. Make America
Speaker 2: healthy again.
Speaker 1: I've seen some banners and things like this, particularly in
Speaker 1: Orange County as the spot I'm thinking of where it's
Speaker 1: there's a big banner along pch it says, make America
Speaker 1: Healthy Again, and then there's a big Trump sign.
Speaker 3: He seems to be it's connected. Those two are connected.
Speaker 3: There is one thing to be said about or not
Speaker 3: one thing.
Speaker 2: There's many things to be said about the importance of
Speaker 2: having a healthy country. If a you're just talking about
Speaker 2: the cost of healthcare, the cost of treating chronic illnesses
Speaker 2: from birth to death. I mean, we spend so much
Speaker 2: money on avoidable problems in our population.
Speaker 1: Do you think we see that in our lifetime in
Speaker 1: terms of the pendulum swinging the other way and us
Speaker 1: moving away from excess and process foods, and the generation after,
Speaker 1: the next generation goes super healthy and strips down all
Speaker 1: of that and is clean eating and makes all the
Speaker 1: right decisions.
Speaker 2: Well, I've never seen it used like this before, and
Speaker 2: maybe I just don't remember it, but I've never seen
Speaker 2: it you used as a political topic before. It's always
Speaker 2: been about look good, feel good, you know, be able
Speaker 2: to move some play good, whatever it is.
Speaker 3: But it's a very personal thing.
Speaker 2: This this kind of movement is more about how it
Speaker 2: impacts us as a country, as a nation, as a
Speaker 2: as a culture, that we change the way we do this,
Speaker 2: because there's so many other changes that would come along
Speaker 2: with that, less you know, less suffering late in life
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, you know, where not everybody gets cancer
Speaker 2: like it seems kind of like the way it is now.
Speaker 2: And the second part about it is not just economically
Speaker 2: but national security wise.
Speaker 3: The fatter we get China come get us, They're gonna they.
Speaker 2: Are gonna roll through us like skinny people through fat people.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's maybe that's the right way to put it,
Speaker 2: but that's there is an issue. I mean, if we
Speaker 2: can't rec fruit for our military, what's because of.
Speaker 3: An issue though.
Speaker 1: The unhealth of the country or the inability or lack
Speaker 1: of want to serve in the military.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think they go hand in hand. I don't
Speaker 2: know which one is worse.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of people who are not
Speaker 1: obese or overweight who would never serve in the military.
Speaker 3: My god, which is so weird. It's very weird. It's
Speaker 3: very weird.
Speaker 2: Because it's that same military that has protected our freedom,
Speaker 2: that allowed them to make such a decision.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, look good, feel good, play good.
Speaker 1: They pay you good, thank you, Dion pay.
Speaker 2: Shien and come on man, the Vikings play the NFC
Speaker 2: champion runner up Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4: The huge conference rival.
Speaker 3: Game first time, all these good teams in that conference,
Speaker 3: someone's playing the other dude playing thank you.
Speaker 1: Listen to this the NFC North, And he makes a
Speaker 1: good point, is freaking lights out.
Speaker 3: I mean, you could argue the weakest link is the
Speaker 3: Bears there.
Speaker 1: But there's a chance for the entire NFC North to
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs. I saw that too, because there
Speaker 1: are three wild cards and they buy and large are
Speaker 1: kicking everyone else's ass when it comes to how they're
Speaker 1: playing and if they can, if they can keep that rolling,
Speaker 1: and you know, injury befalls teams, and you know, weird
Speaker 1: things happen. But right now it looks like there's a
Speaker 1: chance old division because a lot of games.
Speaker 3: There are a lot a lot of games.
Speaker 2: Hi, Gary, Hi Shannon.
Speaker 3: I have a question. Who does the voiceovers for your commercials?
Speaker 3: Sometimes it sounds like Gary, but then I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: it's not. I'm just curious who that individual is. They
Speaker 3: do a great job. Thanks well, they do a great job.
Speaker 3: It's probably me. No, So you don't do any of that?
Speaker 3: What do you mean I do commercials? Right? But I
Speaker 3: don't think that's what he means.
Speaker 2: He'd have to be specific to say which commercial right,
Speaker 2: because we got a bunch of different voice people that we.
Speaker 1: Do have different voice people. I don't think he was
Speaker 1: talking about your commercials though.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want, you said they're great, and
Speaker 2: you think I don't do great commercials?
Speaker 3: What you just said, I.
Speaker 1: Did not say that. I think you do a great
Speaker 1: job at everything that you do.
Speaker 2: Why can't you look at me when you say things?
Speaker 1: Well, it looks like some kids drove an suv onto
Speaker 1: the beach and Santa Monica hit and killed a homeless
Speaker 1: woman in the process.
Speaker 3: Yeah kids, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Kids may be a stretch, but a twenty one year
Speaker 2: old man was arrested on suspicion of dui after this
Speaker 2: woman was run over and killed driving an Infinity SUV
Speaker 2: in circles at high speeds on the sand late last
Speaker 2: night before running over the victim woman not I immediately identified,
Speaker 2: but was lying on the sand and they said may
Speaker 2: have been asleep at the time that this accident happened.
Speaker 2: There is a makeshift homeless encampment. There were several tenths
Speaker 2: seen in the area, but that doesn't necessarily mean that
Speaker 2: that's who this was. Twenty one year old man driving
Speaker 2: this twenty fifteen Infinity SUV was the one who was
Speaker 2: going to be arrested suspicion of dy reckless driving, gross
Speaker 2: vehicular manslaughter. Huge portion of that beach had to be
Speaker 2: blocked off by police tape overnight.
Speaker 3: And into this morning. That's awful. Is that? Is that
Speaker 3: a fun thing to drive in circles on the beach?
Speaker 1: Now it's a drunk, stupid, I'm young and entitled thing,
Speaker 1: that's what that is. Second ranked Oregon visits Perdue tonight,
Speaker 1: kickoff week eight of the college football season.
Speaker 3: But the most important game.
Speaker 1: Of course, starts at two eight hour time when the
Speaker 1: Dodgers try to seal the deal to get into the
Speaker 1: World Series.
Speaker 3: There in New York. Game five.
Speaker 2: Uh Betsani combined for five hits last night.
Speaker 3: That's funny, including two home runs five RBI.
Speaker 2: Seven of the runs that were scored were scored by
Speaker 2: either shohe Otani or Mookie bets In that tended to
Speaker 2: win last night. The Guardians came back from a two
Speaker 2: point was it two runs? Yeah, two runs. It tied
Speaker 2: the game in the ninth with a home run. David
Speaker 2: Fry won the game with a two run home run
Speaker 2: in the bottom of the tenth to beat the Yankees.
Speaker 2: So as of right now, Guardians have that two to
Speaker 2: one lead their Game four is the second of the
Speaker 2: two games tonight. You mentioned the Oregon game today. UCLA
Speaker 2: is at Rutgers tomorrow morning. I think it's like a
Speaker 2: nine o'clock kickoff for US, and then USC is at
Speaker 2: Maryland just after lunch tomorrow. And Jay Cutler arrested for
Speaker 2: the DUI and Tennessee.
Speaker 3: You know, he's always come across as a complete d
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about him to make that decision.
Speaker 3: I don't either. I don't either. I'm just saying how
Speaker 3: he comes across. Jailed yesterday after he was stopped while allegedly.
Speaker 2: Du I at like five pm right two guns, including
Speaker 2: a loaded pistol Tennessee. He was arrested after a minor
Speaker 2: traffic collision. Apparently he rear ended somebody in downtown Franklin,
Speaker 2: which is an awesome little town.
Speaker 3: It sure is.
Speaker 1: A man was swindled out of twenty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: And you're going to hear about these more and more
Speaker 1: because scammers are getting into the AI market huge. They
Speaker 1: say that AI was used to replicate his son's voice
Speaker 1: and trick this guy into sending the money.
Speaker 2: Awful Anthony, when he talked to Channel seven didn't want
Speaker 2: to use his last name.
Speaker 6: I look like a fool. I feel like a fool,
Speaker 6: but I don't care. I want to help everybody that
Speaker 6: I can possibly help.
Speaker 2: The call came in from his finger quotes son, and
Speaker 2: he said he had been in an accident, that he
Speaker 2: had hit a pregnant woman who was rushed to the hospital.
Speaker 2: I wonder if your obgu I m that you helped
Speaker 2: at the gas station. Oh, the guy help this pregnant
Speaker 2: the multiple birth specialists.
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: After a short conversation with this fake voice, he got
Speaker 2: a call from someone else who claimed to be the
Speaker 2: lawyer and said that the Sun needed ninety two hundred
Speaker 2: dollars to make bail.
Speaker 1: And he said, you need to get ninety two hundred
Speaker 1: dollars as fast as you can if you want your
Speaker 1: son out of jail. Otherwise he's in for forty five days.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that it's a ninety two hundred dollars right,
Speaker 1: just detailed enough?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just enough.
Speaker 2: So he gets the money from the bank, apparently tells
Speaker 2: the bank teller, I don't know why you would need
Speaker 2: to do this, but he told the bank teller that
Speaker 2: it was for a solar panel installation.
Speaker 3: So he gets ninety two hundred dollars cash. And why
Speaker 3: would you just say it's for bail? Have no idea?
Speaker 2: The delivery apparatus is the strange thing, because he calls well,
Speaker 2: the daughter calls the lawyer. The again finger quotes lawyer
Speaker 2: and says, okay, we got the money. Now what And
Speaker 2: he says someone will be at the house. It will
Speaker 2: be an uber car any minute. Here's what the license
Speaker 2: plate is. Here's how you do it.
Speaker 3: Put it in a Manila envelope.
Speaker 2: The car pulls up in front of the house, The
Speaker 2: daughter goes out and gives the money to the uber driver.
Speaker 3: The uber driver takes off.
Speaker 2: Then somebody else called another self identified lawyer who said
Speaker 2: the bail has been raised because the woman that was
Speaker 2: involved in the accident died, so that they need another
Speaker 2: fifteen eight hundred dollars to bring the total to twenty
Speaker 2: five grand. So he gets that money and does the
Speaker 2: same delivery drop off where an Uber driver pulls up
Speaker 2: in front of his house and they give the money
Speaker 2: to the Uber car.
Speaker 3: They even picked a lawyer type name Mark Cohen.
Speaker 2: Now the daughter was the one who finally sniffed something
Speaker 2: out here and says.
Speaker 6: Dad, I hope I'm wrong. I think you have just
Speaker 6: been scammed out of twenty five thousand dollars. Never even
Speaker 6: cross my mind.
Speaker 3: And again he told Channel seven that all of this
Speaker 3: happened very much. Why did they just call the Sun?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: So, he says he did.
Speaker 2: After the initial call from the fake legend the Sun
Speaker 2: and then the fake lawyer, he tried to call his
Speaker 2: son back and it turned out that the call went
Speaker 2: directly to voicemail. May have been just a random thing
Speaker 2: that the son didn't get the phone call, but it
Speaker 2: all happened, he said, very very fast.
Speaker 6: Also, they moved me so fast, I'd never had a
Speaker 6: chance to do a second call unless I were to
Speaker 6: say to them, hold it, I'm stopping this whole thing
Speaker 6: for a minute. I want to talk to my son.
Speaker 6: I don't care if he's in jail or where he is.
Speaker 6: I want to talk to my son. You don't think
Speaker 6: that way.
Speaker 3: You don't what are the chances it's the daughter and
Speaker 3: the Sun?
Speaker 2: No, okay, No, I just like to think they You
Speaker 2: immediately think it had to be the family. When when
Speaker 2: police look at this, there's there's still it's still an
Speaker 2: open case. They're still trying to find whoever it was
Speaker 2: that scammed Anthony out of these twenty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: The Sun is fine, by the way, was never involved
Speaker 2: in an accident. I bet it feels awful. No, it's
Speaker 2: not his fault. But we've heard about these kinds of
Speaker 2: scams before, where you it doesn't always happen this way,
Speaker 2: but an older family member, whether it's a parent or
Speaker 2: a grandparent, even gets a call from a voice that
Speaker 2: they think is their relative saying something like I need
Speaker 2: money for bail, or I got stranded in Mexico or authorities.
Speaker 1: It is a demographic. This happened to my mother there
Speaker 1: where the IRS called. She believed it was the ir
Speaker 1: s because she respects authorities and the government and was
Speaker 1: taken for a lot of money.
Speaker 3: And she still beats herself up about it.
Speaker 1: But you know it, it makes sense that this would
Speaker 1: It's awful that people go after older people, you know,
Speaker 1: and take advantage of the children, the grandchildren. What have you?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: My mom, if she gets an unidentified.
Speaker 1: Call, she answers the phone and says not high, not hello,
Speaker 1: She says fu and.
Speaker 3: She hangs up. But she says the whole thing that
Speaker 3: explains a lot. I just realized.
Speaker 2: That's okay, now, okay, yeah, because I was starting to
Speaker 2: take it personally when she would.
Speaker 3: Answer the phone, when I would call her.
Speaker 2: The other thing is, hey, this is another reason to
Speaker 2: tell your kids you don't do bail right.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna run over a pregnant woman and kill her, honey,
Speaker 1: I'm not bailing you out.
Speaker 3: It's just, you know, it's one of those things.
Speaker 2: They did say. The weird wrinkle about this story. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a couple of them, but one of them is
Speaker 2: that they used Uber as the pickup drop off for
Speaker 2: the cash.
Speaker 3: But was it Uber? Well, they did say that they
Speaker 3: do believe they were legitimate Uber drivers, sure, but they
Speaker 3: could have been in on it. Everyone's an Uber driver,
Speaker 3: you know, many crooks or Uber drivers, they said it.
Speaker 2: And usually in these cases, drivers that are hired through
Speaker 2: Uber or Lyft are not are not involved. In fact,
Speaker 2: they oftentimes are unaware that they're even part of it. Again,
Speaker 2: not a guarantee, because, like I said, in this case specifically,
Speaker 2: they still are investigating. But it is possible that the uh,
Speaker 2: the Uber drivers didn't know anything that was going on.
Speaker 3: Are you an organ doorse?
Speaker 1: I'm an organ donor, and I firmly believe you would.
Speaker 1: You should have to opt out of being that. Everyone
Speaker 1: should be an organ donor unless you check off a
Speaker 1: box or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for some people, we should start harvesting before
Speaker 2: you or even before you kick it.
Speaker 3: I've already got DIBs on Jacob's liver. Was it his liver? Yes,
Speaker 3: at least a portion of it.
Speaker 2: Well, I would just in terms of getting the whole
Speaker 2: radiator fixed, do liver and kidneys?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, because the kidneys are good filter for Jacob.
Speaker 3: Can I have a kidney talk about we'll talk about it.
Speaker 4: Take them both.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna see them both. It seems greedy. So no
Speaker 3: wine tonight for me, No wine tonight or gin Oh true, employees,
Speaker 3: really night is over? You know, fencing his fun right now?
Speaker 3: It's not too good.
Speaker 1: The craft beer industry is seeing a downward trend for
Speaker 1: the second year in a row. Craft beer saw no
Speaker 1: growth in twenty twenty three for the first time ever,
Speaker 1: not including the pandemic, and minus a one percent production
Speaker 1: declined for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: That's the worst on.
Speaker 1: Record since the Brewers Sociation began tracking industry data in
Speaker 1: the late seventies. The overall beer industry saw minus five
Speaker 1: point one percent production volume. I think it's because of
Speaker 1: all those the seltzers. I was at the game in
Speaker 1: Seattle on Thursday. I saw a record number of dudes
Speaker 1: drinking those like seltzers.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure I don't like those. They taste
Speaker 1: like chemicals to me. But it's weird seeing a dude
Speaker 1: with like a skinny seltzer can.
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: And I know that that makes me sound old and antiquated,
Speaker 1: and that plenty of the youth like to drink those
Speaker 1: seltzers smle and female.
Speaker 2: Some of them are good, but I agree with you,
Speaker 2: they seem overly chemically chemically. Yeah, I'd rather have an
Speaker 2: old technology like beer like one, of course, light old technology, yeah,
Speaker 2: old school.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Even the craft beer like you're talking about it I'd
Speaker 2: rather have that a weird seltzer, like a mountain dew hert.
Speaker 1: I just feel like craft beer may be slowing down
Speaker 1: because it got so big.
Speaker 3: So quickly in the past twenty years.
Speaker 2: Just exploded, and everybody makes it right, everybody right?
Speaker 3: How much room for growth there is.
Speaker 2: Kamala Harrison Donald Trump both in Michigan today trying to
Speaker 2: lock down support. She is scheduled to begin her day
Speaker 2: in Grand Rapids before she holds events in Lansing and
Speaker 2: Oakland County, northwest of Detroit. Trump has his own event
Speaker 2: in Oakland County in the afternoon and then holds a
Speaker 2: rally in Detroit in the evening. They're saying that this
Speaker 2: is one of the Blue Wall states, three of them
Speaker 2: along with Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, that could help decide this election.
Speaker 3: I think a big fear that most of us have.
Speaker 1: Is if we have to go under the knife for something,
Speaker 1: have to have an operation like waking up in the
Speaker 1: middle of it, Isn't that terrify.
Speaker 3: The heart of that terrify you. I've heard of that fear.
Speaker 3: I can't picture it.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: Part of it is because I've never had an I've
Speaker 2: never had an operation like that. But if I was
Speaker 2: told I had to, that would be one of the
Speaker 2: first fears I think. Really, yeah, they do good job
Speaker 2: knocking you out, They sure do. They don't mess around.
Speaker 2: But still it's like one of those irrational fears. Probably,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably very minuscule the amount of times
Speaker 2: that that happens. Well, there was a guy, Thomas Hoover,
Speaker 2: thirty six years old. He had been declared brain dead
Speaker 2: when surgeons went to remove his organs.
Speaker 3: This was in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Turns out he was declared brain dead because he had
Speaker 1: a drug overdose earlier in the day and declared brain dead.
Speaker 1: And he's on the table and as doctors went to
Speaker 1: test his heart health for transplant, he reportedly became re animated.
Speaker 1: He started thrashing around on the table as the surgeon
Speaker 1: prepared to remove his organs. He was moving around crying visibly.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Nicoletta Martin is his sister, and said, or there was
Speaker 2: one of the sisters.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 2: She became concerned when TJ seemed to open his eyes
Speaker 2: and look around as he was being wheeled from the
Speaker 2: ICU to the operating room.
Speaker 3: I have a question, when your brain dead, can you
Speaker 3: still do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're bought yes, okay, I mean your body's
Speaker 2: going to do things, okay, because there comes a time
Speaker 2: in a boy's life where his body does things.
Speaker 1: She says that they were told it was a common reflex, yes,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't until after he began to move around
Speaker 1: and cry that they decided not to move forward with
Speaker 1: the harvesting of his organs while he was awake.
Speaker 3: The people who worked this.
Speaker 2: Core, the transplant supervisor, told them that they were going
Speaker 2: to do this case anyway, and the hospital needed to
Speaker 2: find another doctor, even though, like you said, the doctor
Speaker 2: had said, they're going to put this off very chaotic.
Speaker 3: Everybody upset.
Speaker 2: Eventually, they never retrieved this guy's organs, well beyond the
Speaker 2: fact that he's still alive, and they said several employees quit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Could you imagine if you were like your wife,
Speaker 1: for instance, and you're in that oar and there's a
Speaker 1: doctor going forward to the transplant and the guys that
Speaker 1: would be traumatizing.
Speaker 2: Several of the employees working that transplant team said they
Speaker 2: had to seek therapy after this.
Speaker 3: Yeah. This is also now bumped up to Congress.
Speaker 2: A letter to the House Energy and Commerce Committee about
Speaker 2: this incident held a hearing investigation on organ procurement organizations.
Speaker 2: So the president chief operating officer of Network for Hope,
Speaker 2: which was formed when a couple of these organ donation
Speaker 2: networks come together, has denied this whole thing. Julie Bergen
Speaker 2: said that no one has ever pressured to been pressured
Speaker 2: to collect organs from any living patient, nor do they
Speaker 2: recover organs from a living patient, and they've never pressured
Speaker 2: any team members to do so.
Speaker 1: They are the experts, the medical ethics people, all of
Speaker 1: it are saying this.
Speaker 3: Is a one off. It is does not very rare.
Speaker 3: Doesn't even begin to talk about how.
Speaker 6: Rare it is.
Speaker 2: But every major hospital, I guarantee you, the ones here
Speaker 2: in southern California specifically have representatives from these organ donation networks.
Speaker 3: Ready, yeah, they are. They are.
Speaker 2: If they're not staffed in the hospital, they are on
Speaker 2: call immediately for for orgon harvesting. If in fact that's
Speaker 2: that's what you or your face.
Speaker 3: Do we have one around here? We have one? What
Speaker 3: an organ harvester? I guarantee you there's one right over
Speaker 3: there at the hospital John's. If no, I'm not multiple,
Speaker 3: I'm like in the building right Now, our building depends
Speaker 3: on how sharp the knife is. That's in the kitchen, Jacob.
Speaker 1: You have a knife on you right, Oh, Jacob's is
Speaker 1: probably sharp.
Speaker 3: Enough for me to go in and get that kidney.
Speaker 3: Oh my own knife, yeah, yeah, it is not sharp enough.
Speaker 3: Where would you start cutting? I don't even know where
Speaker 3: are they? Like here? Jacob?
Speaker 2: I am sorry, you might you might not make it
Speaker 2: through that again. She just pointed to her appendix.
Speaker 3: Well where are they? They're back here?
Speaker 1: Oh right, that's right, because remember when I when I
Speaker 1: thought I had kidney failure.
Speaker 3: Yes, I do know where they are. They're back here.
Speaker 3: You to get there eventually. This is not funny.
Speaker 1: It's a very serious issue, all right, swamp watch when
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