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BYU Basketball, Ronald, you guys had a great pregame show.

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Speaker 3: I know you watch the game.

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Speaker 2: How would you describe the win over Kansas State on

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the road, first win on the road in Big twelve play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's exactly what I expected it to be. I

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expected aj de Bounce to get roughed up a little bit.

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Now he's still dropped twenty four, because that's what a

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future number one NBA pick does, right Ben.

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Speaker 5: They still able to find ways to still score.

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Speaker 4: But it wasn't as maybe flashy as you thought, and

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it wasn't just Agent. I think the entire team struggled.

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like Richie were able to do that. AJ took some adjustment,

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even Canard it took some adjustment. But the guys that

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had been around you could tell, and ajs He did

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have seven turnovers, and I expect that. I expected aj

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to have a rough game. I think of pressure not

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scoring the basketball. But look, I say eighty five to

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seventy five, those eighty three seventy three, I think by

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he was gonna win comfortable enough but I felt like

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their defense was really gonna hold it down and live

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in Kansas State from the three, and I'm glad that

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they were able to do that. I really thought that

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basher Ben, he's one of the best shooters in the

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country and in the Big twelve, was gonna give it

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to him a big time in the second half because

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they shoot forty percent from three. But to me, I

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think it was Bau's defensive efforts and their offensive rebounding.

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what it's like having him in the pain and missing

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him and then be to his presence of not allowing

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people to get to the basket.

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Speaker 4: Haggerty do a lot of work. He wasn't able to

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pass the ball. They were in passing lanes. Kansas State

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turned the ball over a bunch as well. I really

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thought it was Bau's rebounding and defense. That's what it

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came down to. I think that allowed them to win

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this game. And by the way, first time being in

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the eleventh meeting of the teams that the road team

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has won, so every other win was by the home team, byus,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so look, double ten BYU overcame nineteen turnoffers. That

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was the negative here to beat Kansas State on the road.

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But gritty, todacious effort in the second half. Once again

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the second half team showing up, showing out eighty three

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to seventy three at the bram Lodge the Coliseum on Saturday.

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We'll get in some sounds here, but soundbites here, but

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keepa Kanna notched his second double double the season with

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a career high sixteen rebounds eleven points, going four four

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from the field. The product out of Molly and Mally

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native was also adding two blocks. Mean Hilo Bucket Viitch

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made two three pointers for the first time this season.

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finished with nine points on three of five shooting, along

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with three rebounds, one assist, one block, one stealing a

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partridge in a pair three. Freshman aj A de Bonsa

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le Bau with twenty four points, extending a streak of

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double figure scoring in every game this season. De Bonsa

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Speaker 2: Believe in the NC double A now averaging a lot

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of points per game. I'll pull that up, that stat

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up here momentarily. Even with a season nine nineteen turnovers,

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the Cougars outshot the Wildcats forty four point four percent

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to forty one point eight percent, out rebounded them forty

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seven to thirty five, and out blocked six to two,

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and out assist at seventeen fifteen, led by Cata and

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de Bonsa Bilia match a season high forty seven rebounds,

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producing twenty second chance points. You gotta love that. Let's

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get into some sound bites. Kevin Young, agent of Bonsa Kebakeda,

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addressing the media post game, what did you like most

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about your team's performance Saturday on the road.

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Speaker 6: Just I'm not trying to be like a smart We're

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just winning, Like finding a way to win a conference

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game on the road. You know, this is his first

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go at it, and that was the most impressive thing.

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for us that went out really a high turnover team.

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coming in super physical and the only way we were

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able to gate that was our offensive rebounding and so

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getting to win is we talk a lot about offensive rebounding,

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and that was the way we were able to negate

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call from the ball up nineteen times.

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Speaker 2: Hey, finding a way to win, Ronnie. They you don't

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always do it prettily, you know this aesthetically pleasingly, but

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they get it done. They'll find a way. So if

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you're playing this way, you're winning this way. Now you

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gotta imagine when you're trending in the right Hopefully you're

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trending in the right direction. You're healthy, you're strong, your

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nurse and strengthened in February, and you're playing your best ball.

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This seems like it could be the year in which

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BYU becomes a Final four team and they get that

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monkey off their back the most NCAA appearances without a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think in order to get that done, it's

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gonna be like, you know, the defense, but they're turning

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the ball over a ben that's not gonna look. I

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don't want to like jump to just being super negative

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at all because I feel like, ugh, the way that

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they turn the ball over with the pressure Granne was

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on the road. But if you do that against the

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Houstons to Iowa States, oh man, it's gonna get really ugly.

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to the pressure. And I think the ten to eleven

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days off is really what I'm chalking it up to be.

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days and when they play Utah on Saturday, that's going

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Speaker 5: But yeah, final four still in the running.

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Speaker 4: And when you play a league defense like that being

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you saw Houston, right, even if you're not hitting shots,

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if you're able to take away shots and still play

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your game, that's how you're better win a national chatole

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and get to a final four.

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Speaker 2: Yes, aj De Bonsa, how would you describe your first

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Speaker 3: Was it as physical as you expected it to be?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Definitely.

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Speaker 7: Coach with Tam is gonna be way more physical than

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our non conference games. And I mean, y'all see the

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first hand. Seven tone overs unacceptable for me. I think

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they're getting into my body a little bit. But you know,

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I'm a wisdom in the weight room. I'm gonna get stronger.

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We will continue our practice and I'm gonna be better

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in the future.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be better in the future.

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Speaker 2: Now, Roddy, the physicality of it you mentioned, I think

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in our text, threat look like he's he's getting bodied

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna get all the calls that you got

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maybe a non conference play. What was your analysis of

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what was occurring on the floor, No calls, just letting

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Speaker 4: I love it, Ben, I like physical contact in general.

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when they let them play on and I think that's good.

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I think AJ can't expect to get the NBA shots

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of I go up, oh, hit on the arm and

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jack up a shot like, it's not gonna work.

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Speaker 5: Like you gotta play through that. You gotta look the.

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Speaker 4: Big twelve basketball of the physicality being is playoff basketball.

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Speaker 5: In the NBA.

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Speaker 4: No one plays basketball been through the regular season. I

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guarantee I should ask Kevin Young this. But when you

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get to the playoffs, it's physical, it's clamped down. So

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it is just preparing to play basketball.

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Speaker 6: Ben.

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Speaker 4: You know next year around this time, you know when

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he gets towards the playoff season, So it's it's good

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for him. It's gonna be great. I think he's gonna

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the ball ripping and going and getting a little bit quicker.

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Because the Big twelve has elite athletes from one through five,

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they can switch it. They can match it up. At

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Kansas State did a great job. I thought Jerome Tangan

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pressing BYU a little bit. I think it gave him

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his issues, not as much as it did last year.

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I think they will adjust, and that was a good

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win to have through you know, some adversity up and down.

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He never felt like b Whatyu was out of the game,

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but you felt like they could get pressured enough and

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they lived up to it. But I love the physicality

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and it just got to adjust as the rest of

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the team canard all the guys that haven't had a

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chance to really you know, play this. I thought robbing again,

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Richie played great through the physical you know stretch of

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the game when Kansas State really turned it on. But

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AJ will learn how to do it, Ben, That's why

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he's a great player. Kevin Young has mentioned that he

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knows how to adjust to it. Did pick up some fouls,

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but again, I thought he had a phenomenal second half

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of basketball with the ball in his hands. And he's

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gonna have to figure it out, Ben, because with the

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lack of point guard depth, it's gonna be robing AJ

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running the show.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. And look, I like AJ bringing

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the ball up. You can see he's got a fantastic handle.

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get to pretty much anywhere on the floor. But he's

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gonna have to fight through that contact because I was

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gonna get those calls. Hopefully he can persevere continue to

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get bigger, faster, stronger during the season. Now, Keba keda

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a career high sixteen rebounds. Man, he was impressive. Got

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it before, what was special about this, uh this road

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performance from you? Kena.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean just just wanted to win, you know,

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I was just doing my job.

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Speaker 5: Just want to say it to on physically.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you guys caught up with Keba with Blaine

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Anderson and let's talk about status segment. How would you

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describe Keba, his play, his personality right now, Ronnie.

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Speaker 4: Very humble man is the guy that wants to just

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like he said, it's at the tone and do the

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dirty work. He's not going to go above and beyond

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with the words and with the actions. He says, my

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job is the block, rebound and then just throw me

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a lot up here there.

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Speaker 5: And that's what he does.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think he had two goaltending calls, right, So

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that's the guy. He doesn't care, but he wants to

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play the physical and dirty work game and do it

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and do it that way. Now, I need Rob to

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not throw the ball over the backboard for Cable to

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dunk the basketball.

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Speaker 5: That can't happen. So this Ba team of it. There's

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no high you can't throw it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, actually you can if you can, if you throw

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it to the backboard and out of bounds so the

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guy can't catch it, that's called a turnover. Don't do

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that anyway, back to the taskt and no. Kaba is

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the guy that when you have a guy been that

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enjoys like offensive line in football blocking or you know

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a full back like kline that wants to just take

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people out, that enjoys tackling, that enjoys the physical aspect

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of the game, that thrives on it, that gets hyped

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about it.

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Speaker 5: You let Caba do that.

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Speaker 4: Remember the Iowa State game when he turns up on him,

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you know, blocking shots, grabbing rebounds, dunking the ball. Like look,

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I think that's who Kiba Kata is. Simple man, very

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straight to the point. Not a lot of talking, just

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about his action. But you better stat his paint or

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he's gonna make you pay.

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Speaker 2: Definitely gonna make you pay. I love his personality, I

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really do. And I love the way he plays. Keby

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Keta coach Coach Young, you held them to three three pointers?

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Pretty impressive work on the perimeter. That's one of the

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focuses of this offseason. What it's been their their previous

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season low was five. How do you limit their makes

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or how did you limit their makes on Saturday?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 6: That was that was I mean, really it's too I

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think this isn't rocket science, but it's like, can you

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how do you guard Haggarty and how do you guard

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the three point line? And sometimes those can be difficult

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because you want to show him a crowd. You want

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to put two on the ball and pick and roll,

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but when you do those two things, you're successful to

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giving up three. So I thought our guys did a

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good job of kind of towing the line in our

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in our mixing up our coverages and not helping too much.

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He did a good he's a great player, and he

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did a good job of drawing fouls. But you know,

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to only let one guy hit any threes, I thought

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was impressive. I mean, but sheher, that's a big time shooter,

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you know, and so he was. He was the one

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that was able to get some off. But I just

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thought the attention to detail in terms of what we

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were actually asking our guys to do relative to our coverages,

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I thought was good.

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Speaker 2: Look, Ronald, this is something you've hit on time and

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time again over the last year when we were discussing

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transfer portal acquisitions where the improvement needed to be ultimately

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executed and effectuated. Coming off of that loss in the

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NCAA tournament, you were just like, you hit it home,

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Like we need better perimeter defense. We gotta go find length,

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we gotta find athleticism, we gotta find those that have

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the ability to close out and contest shots from the

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perimeter and it looks like they went out got it. Man,

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it's it's been impressive to see that translate into Big

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twelve play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it sucks because they're the guys that won't have

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an opportunity to play this year. The Dawson Bakers and

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they pickens. Those guys you know, have been the officially

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been ruled out. Those guys can add to that. You know,

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that's why you hate to see the mensa because they're

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also versatile as well and what they can bring. But

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that's what happens been at the end of the day

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is you know, next man up, but they've gone out

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and they gotten it. PJ was having a tough time

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and this is how it is that twenty four points

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that he got. He truly did earn Ben and Basher

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the biggest reason he had a nightmare with them. Look,

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no one else hit a three and he really struggled.

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When you were able to take Canar, then throw Kaba

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in the pick and roll and CABA's able to close

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out and you know, press him really hard and blitz

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him over the top and then gets back when Beato's

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showing and going and getting back and he can't get

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off a screen when you got Richie throwing a different body,

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when you throw Rob in the mix of a little

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bit of to you know, flash really quickly.

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Speaker 5: He was really struggling. And I want to give credit

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to Tim Fanning.

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Speaker 4: I talked to Tim on our pregame show and Tim

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said that he's a part of the defensive coverages and

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helping Kevin Young do that. So tip of the cap

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to Tim. Next time I see him, I got a

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dab him up. But man, h from what Tim was

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able to tell me, super competitive. Dude, havn't been in

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the euro League been that experience. They did not let

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Bashir get off and he still hit three threes. That's

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how you know how deep that team is still for

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Kansas State. But man, it was phenomenal. And they that's

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what they're gonna do. They're gonna give the shooter on

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the team been a nightmare. They're gonna let the guy

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who's maybe the copete or you know, the PJ do

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his thing because he's gonna just score. But the guy

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that can really hurt you from beyond the arc, they're

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gonna throw that guy at you. And I felt like

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Canard kba AJ Ritchie Rob They all wore attention to

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detail beat you, and they did not let them get

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off and get their shots. And it was really tough.

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They play like that, Ben, even with how bad they

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turn the ball over.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 4: You play like that and you don't let the shooters

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the guys get off like that and you get more rebounds,

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You're gonna win a lot of games in the Big

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Twelve A J.

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Speaker 2: The Bots, uh uh, we know Kansas State recruited you.

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What was it like seeing some guys you've known before

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in the handshake line post game?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's fun. Obviously you want to compete against you know,

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people you know. Obviously, when you step inteen Alliance, it's

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a it's a different game. But I mean they're good people.

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There was no like, there was no like bad energy.

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It's just, you know, I want to get a win

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and I just wanted to throw that.

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Speaker 2: So AJ received an award in other awards, how many

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I don't know. I'm wondering how many awards the Bonsas

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has received thus far this season. He was named uh

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the Big twelve Newcomer of the Week for the second time.

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I don't know if he's got any other awards. Besides,

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you know, the newcomer of the week twice now, but

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congratulations with the six foot nine combo guard. I guess

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he's he's a I guess he's a What is he

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labeled as right now? I mean he's he's obviously a forward,

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but he plays he's a point forward. Is that what

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we're calling him right now? Is a point forward?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Point forward? I mean there's a lot of point forwards, but.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So the point forward aj to Ponza I

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believe right now, isn't he leading the NC Double A

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in scoring as well for the season.

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Speaker 4: He is, this age of de Bonsa is leading the

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NC double A and scoring, and that's why he's got

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a shot to win the Player of the Year award.

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Speaker 5: Ben, he has a legit shot to win the John

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Wooding Award.

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Speaker 4: Nation play like he is in the running for it,

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and rightfully so this aj de Boncea and Ben. Again,

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if you're having performances like that where you shoot eight

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to fifteen, you have twenty four points, you do what

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you're doing there, still.

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Speaker 5: Got to get better at the cherity stripe. He's starting

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to get stronger.

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Speaker 4: But if you're able to do that, that is going

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to help Elite raise BYU's level in the play because

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it's a nightment of guard. And that's why I picked

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Rob because Rob had a quiet eighteen bin Like no

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one talks about Rob right eighteen quiet, but I feel

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like that was the calm in the storm when Kansas

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State made the push a three here getting down to

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the basket. Here a free throw hill like Rob's critical

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ball handing ability in late game situations. It's the best

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trio in college basketball, the three headed Dragon, like pick

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your scout like Richie, then have the best shooting date

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and it still was a problem. So that's why I

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think BYU is truly a tough matchup. And that's why

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I'm excited to see the Iowa State game, the Houston

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game when they get into the tournament. How do those

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the league defensive teams match up, because AJ, Richie and

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Rob are a nightmare. And you saw Kansas State. They

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made pushes, but they just didn't have the bodies to

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shut the three headed Dragon down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So aj' is number one, Deorg Johnson number two from

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Tarlington State, but AJ's averaging twenty three point one points

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per game. Cam Boozers at number three representing Duke you

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know who's four or a tie for thirties.

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Speaker 3: PJ. Haggerty.

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Speaker 2: He's at twenty three points per game, So a number

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of Big twelve players. Terrence Brown for the University of

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Utah's at eleven with twenty one point eight as well

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as I believe JT toppit he's at twenty one point

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two per game. And then Cameron Carr Baylor is twenty

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one points per game. So a couple of the Big

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twelve stars showing up showing out in the top twenty five.

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It's the most productive scores in college basketball. A couple

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last things from this BYU basketball crew. Kevin A j

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picked up his second foul, You shot him for a

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little bit. What went into the decision to put him back?

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And will you use that philosophy going forward?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's a great question.

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Speaker 6: I mean there's there's a lot of I think, especially

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when I was in the NBA, a lot of studies

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done on like how much that actually hurts you versus

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helps you, and how much the guy actually fouls out

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when he does get early fouls. So you know, I

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think for the most part, I trust all of our

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guys in that situation him in particular, I have a

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lot of trust in him and in terms of his

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his IQ for the game. So I told him, I'm

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gonna sit you real quick. I'm gonna get you back in,

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but just at all calls, don't get your third foul.

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We were able to sub it even after that offensive defense,

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which helped us.

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Speaker 5: So I think.

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Speaker 6: That's probably more where I lean than you know, just

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totally sitting a.

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Speaker 3: Guy, Your thoughts, your reaction to that.

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Speaker 2: Ronald the three Man, It sounds like he's utilizing a

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number of data points as well as his anecdotes to

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make these strategic decisions in games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this question was asked by a reporter that wasn't

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at a game earlier, because remember ben I posted that

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clip to your Twitter page of Crital Benjamin when they

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played down at the Delta Center, and he says, I

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do it every single time, like it was you know,

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it was a media what is it? Another talent of

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another radio network that had mentioned and asked him about, Hey,

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what do you do with aj if he gets two

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or three fouls like that against like I play him

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every single time. Now I need to go find the

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actual clip. But he says something on the lines of that.

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So he's gonna rock with AJ every single time, rightfully,

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So any trust that he's again said it there. AG's

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a smart kid. You only have to tell him something

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once and then he's gonna get it. So I expect

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Kevin Young to do that more often than not. Looking

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I'm gonna be honest, some people maybe listen to the

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program might get upset about this, But if you're gonna

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have a Tony Padilla ref the Iowa State or a

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Houston game, AJ might get maybe three or four fouls,

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this is gonna be Those are gonna be mucky, ugly

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games Ben or games at the Big Twelve in general,

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even without Tody Pidia being the official. It's a physical game,

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it's a physical conference. This is not the first time

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that I think AJ might be in foul trouble. But again,

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this is all good for the team because when you

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get to march Manders, you want to be testing every

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type of way you want to be tested. With AJ

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maybe in foul trouble on the bench, he's gonna have

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to play through that.

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Speaker 5: This is just better for his career.

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Speaker 4: So this is not a bad thing for him to

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pick up too early for Kevin Young to sub in

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subout like that.

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Speaker 5: Look he was celebrating Ben.

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Speaker 4: If you watched the game, you know they got that

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pass off of the and one and he's like throwing

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the arm up there trying to get a time out

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and he's running back to the bench. All of that

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is strategic planning. But it's Kevin Young. It's his ro

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buzz staff that he has staff. Excuse me, that he

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has to be able to help him do that to

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be able to get Aj back in the ballgame Ben

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with like ninety seconds to get a bucket, then to

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get him out of the game and not pick up

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that third. Love what they did and how they managed that.

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Speaker 2: Final thing from this this trio, Keba, you out rebounded,

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you out rebounded by two and total rebounds. How much

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of an emphasis emphasis was that? And how do you

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feel like you guys did on the boards?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely wasn't emphasis.

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Speaker 8: I mean trying to play harder than you know, the

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other team every night. So yeah, I just wanted to

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dominate the glass tonight. And yeah, then we did a

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pretty good job.

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Speaker 2: It's uh, it's fun to watch, like who's the who

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do you love watching the most?

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Speaker 3: On this squad.

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Speaker 5: Right, such a tough question, you know what I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, Like, it depends on what what you love about

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hoop Right. If you love pure, unadulterated physical, explosive rebounding

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and dunks and just just just just these physical specimens,

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it's gotta be kava.

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Speaker 3: Right. If you love the.

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Speaker 2: Shaggy haired uh you know, Scooby Doode looking freaking top

524
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king Richie Saunders that's running around like freaking Steph Curry

525
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trying to find his shot, you know, playing phenomenal, relentless defense,

526
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creative scoring, right, then you'll maybe love Richie. If you

527
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love the most pure scorer in college basketball that gets

528
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to his spots, makes you unbalanced, turn around, fade away,

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you know his finishes or elite aj to bonsa like,

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then you like the peer score a j. If you

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love Rob Wright's quickness, he's like a freaking mongoose out.

532
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I love watching Rob Wright. Like who do you love

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the most? And entertainment wise, what do you love watching

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this is?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I look, I can't say everything I'm not

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gonna do to Keilone.

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Speaker 5: I like them all. I'm not gonna do that with

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the pop.

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Speaker 4: Tarts, but but hey, look it with viral college football.

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Speaker 5: Yah, that's the questions.

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Speaker 4: I really like, No, I bring you the serious point up,

542
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ben I, and I'm like you, maybe. I like when

543
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the game gets tough and when it gets close, and

544
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who's the guy that could be mentally physically the toughest.

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Who's the guy that turns the ball over and who

546
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gets upset and who goes back and locks the dude

547
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up and gets a foul at the other end and

548
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gets up and gets the crowd hied. I like the

549
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energy guy. I like the guy that likes to talk

550
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to smacks, so you know who I'm kind of rocking with.

551
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I like Kenard Davis Junior. I like the guy that's

552
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gonna be like yo, you know what, Booty won't swear

553
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on this network because we have kids listening is not

554
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going anywhere. And I loved how he took butheer out

555
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of the game. I loved how he got chess to

556
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chess physical with him, stripped the ball with poking stuff

557
00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:29,680
doing that. I just love that part of the game

558
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in AJ because look, that's what's gonna come down to you.

559
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Boi's not gonna win a national championship being in basketball

560
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with making three pointers. They're gonna do it on the

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defensive side. Look at every team that's won. Houston getting there,

562
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it was their defense, Florida doing it. It was their defense.

563
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Seattle Seahawks and they embarrassed Payton Manning. It was defense.

564
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Look at what is Indiana football the Hoosias right now,

565
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it's their defense, or going to be Texas Tech.

566
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Speaker 5: What was it? It was their defense been.

567
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Speaker 4: It's always comes down to the defensive side of the ball.

568
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So as much as you may love the offense as

569
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much as they want want to change the rule and

570
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throw flags or give you foul calls when you stretch

571
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for an end one dunk in the continuation role, I

572
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don't care about none of that. I care about the

573
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guy that locks the dodo up in the most critical

574
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moment and is able to get a stop win in

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matters most mowe mag against John Tong that won you

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the basketball game, not a free throw attempt.

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Speaker 5: That's what i'd been.

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Speaker 2: I love it, man, great breakdown, Ronald the three man Weaver.

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We were delving into all of the sound bites, all

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up next. A ball invites where is Chase Roberts going? Okay,

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where where is he going to be? Invited to did

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he did he get that Senior Bull invite that he

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Speaker 3: Also, Pokin Nakua.

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Speaker 3: Is Chase Roberts.

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Speaker 2: Where will he end up in next year's NFL In

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mid rounder? Is he a fifth, sixth, seventh rounder? His

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productivity I think has been impressive. He's got great length,

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he's got good athleticism, maybe even great athleticism.

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Speaker 3: You can eat breakfast buffet.

712
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,759
Speaker 2: I love that it's delicious and nutritious, and you can

713
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:40,000
see so much. You can do so much out there.

714
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:42,920
I love the horseback rides. I love the mountain biking.

715
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,319
I love the guy that atv tours. I love you

716
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:47,559
can even get the helicopter crews. They got rodeos that

717
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,759
go on during the summer months. I like the bootscoot

718
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:53,920
and boogie at Ebenezer's Barn and Grill. I love Rubys Inn.

719
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:56,559
I think you will as well. Me and my wonderful

720
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,839
wife we fell madly, deeply in love. They're at Ruby's

721
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,039
Inn named Bryce Cannon. I think you'll love it as

722
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:04,400
well and fall in love once again with that special

723
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,240
someone in your life.

724
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into it.

725
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: Chase Roberts has accepted an invitation to the East West

726
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:17,720
Shrine Bull. Congratulations to Chase Roberts. Now this is the

727
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:23,079
not the Premier Senior Bowl. Okay, the Premier Senior Bowl

728
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:27,839
has been uh, it's formerly the Reese's Senior Bowl. I

729
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:32,119
think they have a new sponsor, and I'm honestly I

730
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,079
don't remember which sponsor it is.

731
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: They just changed it this year.

732
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,519
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's the number one, right, they kind of get

733
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:40,720
first pick of the litter. East West Shrine bol not

734
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,240
too far behind them, and we never know what can happen,

735
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:47,119
like if Chase Roberts showcases well at the East West

736
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:47,720
Shrine Bowl.

737
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: Sorry, say that again, Ronnie. The Panini Panini? Do you

738
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,440
like Panini's Yeah? I do, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Panini Senior Ball.

739
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,519
So that's yeah.

740
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:03,119
Speaker 5: I'm on to mic now.

741
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just picked it up. It change a now

742
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,240
sponsored by the Panine will take place.

743
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is it both? Is it the

744
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,400
Penie it bow?

745
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:13,319
Speaker 5: Yeah? Let me hold on you. I only read the first.

746
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:15,079
Speaker 2: The Panini Recent Senior or is it just is it

747
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:16,359
only the Penine.

748
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: He says it right here at Yeah Senior Bowl? Yeah,

749
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,160
the Panini Senior Bow is the premier college football all

750
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,920
star yeam, the official first steps.

751
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that that's what it is.

752
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: You've been changing to that now yep, okay, all right,

753
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:26,279
but you're right a new sponsor.

754
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes me hungry. I've been fasting all day. I've

755
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,519
only been having liquids and vitamins.

756
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: You've been going to two days. You went yesterday and

757
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,759
now you're going today.

758
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: You know it makes me want to go get a panini. Uh.

759
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: Anyway, So he's going to the East West Shrine Bowl.

760
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:44,759
Congratulation Chase Roberson. Now he could ball out at the

761
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:48,200
East West Shrine and end up in the Senior Bowl.

762
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: Like we've seen that before. That could happen again.

763
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:56,119
Speaker 2: But Chase Roberts, we discussed this is Chase Roberts an

764
00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:58,240
NFL wide receiver.

765
00:33:58,799 --> 00:33:59,559
Speaker 3: What do you think?

766
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,079
Speaker 2: Do you think he's an NFL wide receiver?

767
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: Yes? Or no? Why or why not?

768
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,079
Speaker 5: Yes? I do think he is an NFL wide receiver.

769
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,960
Now what level? That's a different conversation. But to answer

770
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,960
the question, yes, he is.

771
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,039
Speaker 4: The body size, the playmaking ability, the chance to get

772
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:19,000
up the top speed. Remember that West Virginia game where

773
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,880
he ruins across the guy on a slant or like

774
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,800
maybe a skinny post more been You'll correct me if

775
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,119
I'm wrong, catches it and almost goes to the house.

776
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:25,599
Speaker 3: Like he was.

777
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 4: It took a lot for that dB to track Chase down,

778
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,440
and Chase got up the full speed. So he's a

779
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,000
guy that can hit his head on the goalpost, no doubt.

780
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,760
I mean the big body, size, the red zone, thread ability,

781
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,880
there are some things that you know, maybe he can

782
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,599
struggle with maybe at times, but for the most part, overall,

783
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,000
I think Chase is now what that means. He's a

784
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,760
six or seventh round guy. He's a practice squad guy,

785
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,800
chases a guy that can play I believe at the

786
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,079
next level, and I believe that he will for sure.

787
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,480
I think his body size and his pass catching ability

788
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,599
is able to do that.

789
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 5: You can use chess in a lot of ways, no doubt.

790
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: You look at his height, you look at his weight,

791
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,199
six four two ten, big body, and I pulled up

792
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,880
in the past.

793
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,119
Speaker 3: Chase Roberts Sparks.

794
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: Score and he was to my surprise. Actually I didn't

795
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,760
know he was this athletic.

796
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 3: Now he didn't.

797
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:18,639
Speaker 2: He didn't blow you away with his uh his forty

798
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:20,159
time at the time coming out of high school. But

799
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:21,880
he's gotten a lot faster since then. I think he's

800
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,559
gonna be a legitimate four to five guy NFL draft scout,

801
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,000
I believe prognosticated that he'll be running a four five

802
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:31,119
four And if you pull up Pooka Nakua.

803
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: Now there're two different types of players.

804
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: But you know, Pooka is more of a football player

805
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,280
than he is a track guy. And you know what

806
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,199
I mean at Pooka, I think Ran I want to

807
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,320
say at his pro day, I don't even know if

808
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,679
he got an invite. I don't think he got an

809
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,960
invite to the the Combine. Didn't get an invite to

810
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,639
the Combine.

811
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 5: No, I don't think he did.

812
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:55,599
Speaker 2: But Ran, I want to say, in the four to

813
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:59,320
five range, you know, four to five range. Uh, and

814
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,159
so you're if you're there, great, grand wonderful. But Chase,

815
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:09,559
this is where he he differentiates himself. Four point zero

816
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,280
seven twenty yard shuttle. He had a thirty six inch vertical.

817
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:14,880
He had a power throw of forty one. His overall

818
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,760
Spark rating was one hundred and twenty, which essentially is

819
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,199
like one of the best in the country. He was

820
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:23,119
like a top ten Sparks score. It could have been

821
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:24,920
even better than that because the top score was a

822
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,480
one to twenty point three to three. That was Brandon Specter.

823
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:31,400
That produced a one to twenty point three three so

824
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,599
so athletically the tangibles uh the length right, So Puka, Yeah,

825
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:38,480
Puka ran a four to five to six. So if

826
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:41,079
Chase is right in there, I think we're fine. His

827
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,960
pro agility is route running, being able to get in

828
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:46,960
and out of routes is what Chase. How Chase is

829
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,199
getting a differentiate himself. Now, I will say I was

830
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,760
a little disappointed this season and even last year. He's

831
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,400
got to catch more footballs that are contested. What does

832
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,079
Puka do that? I mean, look, he's Puka's the best

833
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:02,320
receiver in the NFL right now, in my opinion. Puka

834
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:07,000
catches every contested ball. It seems you could be draped

835
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:09,760
on him, you could have an arm inside, you could

836
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,320
get hands on first, and he rips it away from you.

837
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,519
Pooka is one of the best, if not the best,

838
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:20,320
contested catching receivers in in the NFL right now, and

839
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,199
he may go down as one of the best ever

840
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,559
in the NFL quite honestly, if he stays healthy.

841
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: Knock on Woods, shout out to Pooka.

842
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: But I truly believe that Chase Roberts is an NFL

843
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,239
wide receiver now if Puka went in the fifth round,

844
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,920
if Austin Colly went, I believe in the fourth round,

845
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,960
and Dax Milne went.

846
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: I believe in the seventh.

847
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: I believe Todd Watkins also went in the sixth or

848
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,159
seventh round. Where does Chase Roberts end up in this

849
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,920
next year's NFL draft? Where you leaning right now? Remember

850
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,039
Austin Colly all the time? BYU great? You feel like

851
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,679
Puka was completely undervalued and he's been the most valuable

852
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,280
draft pick from that draft class. You could make that

853
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,679
argument definitely the best roy. Where do you think Chase

854
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,519
Roberts ends up?

855
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 4: You're gonna he's gonna have to test better, Ben, But

856
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,400
I think seventh round.

857
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 5: I think that's what you're looking at. I think a

858
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,199
seventh round guy.

859
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: It's a guy that if he'd got over a thousand

860
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,440
yards you could maybe book the seventh round a little

861
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,920
bit more. But I think that's gonna be tough. I

862
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,840
think that's gonna be the highest I think that he

863
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,960
gets drafted. I think, like you said, the too many

864
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:27,639
drops on tape this year that really hurt, not catching

865
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,280
like that tough contest to pass against Texas Tech. I

866
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,519
know people are always like you're pinning chasing Darius against

867
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:34,360
each other. No, you have to make those type of

868
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,360
catches to be at the next level. Again, you bring

869
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,280
up Pooka. I mean, look, go back and look at

870
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,960
not the last A game, but the game before. It

871
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,599
was a dart thrown. Pooka had a knee on the

872
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,920
ground of the dude's all draped over him, and he

873
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000
still catches the football.

874
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 5: Chase doesn't have that ability yet.

875
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 4: Maybe he can develop it a little bit more so

876
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,679
seventh round bin if not undrafted free agent. I feel

877
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,239
that's what it is. Puoka was hurt and he got

878
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,679
moved down to the fifty. He should have probably been

879
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,960
a third. Dax Mill was a seventh right and you

880
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,280
see what he's done. So I think Chase is at

881
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,960
best seven. They're not undraft a free agent, but I

882
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,800
still think he has an opportunity to play at the next.

883
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,039
Speaker 2: Level, no doubt about it.

884
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: So well, well, I'm right there with you.

885
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: I think fifth to seventh round, depending on how he

886
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,079
tests out. If he runs a low four five, if

887
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,440
he comes in at two hundred and twenty pounds and

888
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,800
he's still at like seven percent body fat and he's

889
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,719
just looking ripped to shreds. He's gonna get in and

890
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,440
out of his brakes, Like I could see him going

891
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,519
as high as fifth round. He's a good blocker on

892
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:28,039
the premter Like, how many times this is kind of

893
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:31,280
a funny commentary. How many times did we see over

894
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,639
the last three years Chase Roberts blocking downfield and LJ.

895
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,719
Martin running into him, like fifty yards downfield.

896
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 4: Bro running into his back, just taking him out friendly

897
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,599
fire edge is like, I don't care who's there, I'm

898
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:44,639
gonna run him over. That happens twice bro this season

899
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,800
and I both know bro ICU Portland State.

900
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: He's a great blocker. Man, He's out there putting his

901
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,719
body on the line. I can't tell you how scary

902
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,159
it is. It really is like you're blocking down field

903
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,719
and you know the running backs running up on your booty,

904
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,519
and you're like, I could get rolled up on.

905
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: I could have an ACL tear.

906
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,159
Speaker 2: I could have an MCL tear because those.

907
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 3: Running backs they don't care. Man, this run right into you.

908
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,840
It's a scary ordeal.

909
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: And I used to kind of look back, I'd engage,

910
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,880
I'd feel like I'd get it locked in. I'd kind

911
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,719
of look behind me and start like kind of high

912
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,639
stepping a little bit because you kind of feel the pressure,

913
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,280
but sometimes you don't even know what's coming anyway. Jase

914
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,400
Roberts baller, I think he goes fifth to seventh round.

915
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,480
I do believe he gets drafted, even with his missionary

916
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,559
agent all those things. I think he's gonna test out well.

917
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,280
I don't know where he's training at. I'll try to

918
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,280
get confirmation on that. But let's talk Pooka Nakua here.

919
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: For a moment. I mentioned it.

920
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:46,039
Speaker 2: Pooka Nakua is uh? I mean, look, me and Gurney.

921
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,079
Gurney and I have have debated for a long time.

922
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,039
Speaker 5: Who's here we go?

923
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: And I've always said to Austin Colley, if Austin Khalley

924
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,719
would have stayed healthy, he would have had a similar

925
00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:57,960
same trajectory.

926
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,639
Speaker 3: And I still feel that way.

927
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: I do think that Austin Colley's staying healthy and not

928
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,239
under experiencing so many concussions that he could have been

929
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,559
on the same similar trajectory to that of Pukinnakua. Remember,

930
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:15,039
he was leading the NFL in touchdowns and receptions and yards.

931
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:15,559
Speaker 3: I mean he was.

932
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: He was also being fed by one of the greatest

933
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,480
quarterbacks and be in NFL history Peyton Manning as is

934
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:24,679
Pookinakua right now. He's Matt Stafford, one of the best

935
00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:27,360
talents to come through the NFL in a long time,

936
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,119
and I think an eventual Hall of Famer. But Pukinakua

937
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,760
could be considered the offensive player of the year. He

938
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,559
is so high on his success rate, totally EPA added

939
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,119
success rate. When you target him, he doesn't drop it,

940
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,119
He goes up and gets it. One handed grabs, two

941
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:49,760
handed grabs. He's made some of the craziest catches. So

942
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:53,280
Brandon Gurney is winning the argument right now, and I

943
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:53,679
hate it.

944
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: Shout out to Brandon Gurney.

945
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Speaker 2: But Jackson Smith, Najeeba and and uk oh, yeah, what

946
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:05,599
is it again? Hardy Jigma, Uh and Puka ended with

947
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,320
almost identical stats this season, by the way, one hundred

948
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,039
and sixty three targets for Jackson, one hundred and sixty

949
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,719
six for Puka, one and twenty nine yards for Jackson.

950
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Pukina had eight hundred and twenty and then Jackson had

951
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,679
ten touchdowns and Puka had eleven.

952
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: Shout out to him.

953
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: Like just a crazy uh, it's a career year for

954
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,639
Puka this year, one hundred and twenty nine receptions. Just insane,

955
00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:35,880
just insane, and they were so efficient. Some of the

956
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,800
best catches in the NFL came at the hands of

957
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:45,960
Puka Nakua and Uh. He passed Hall of Famer Randy Moss,

958
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,159
one of my favorite receivers all time, for the second

959
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:51,760
most receiving yards by a player in their first three

960
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,000
seasons in NFL history. Just an insane number. And Randy

961
00:42:57,039 --> 00:43:00,599
Moss is a way different wide receiver than Puka. Randy

962
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:06,960
Moss was like a four too forty long lean athletic

963
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:14,239
from a linear standpoint right, and so to be able

964
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,239
to produce the amount of yards that Pooka is producing

965
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:22,360
from the slot, that's an insane number. And remember Austin

966
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,320
Colly was producdinghim insane numbers two from the slot when

967
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,360
he was in his heyday, when he was at his

968
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,960
peak in the NFL playing for the Colts. Pooka Nakua

969
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:36,400
joined Michael Thomas, Uh and Ammon Ross Saint Brown as

970
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,639
the only players in NFL history with at least five

971
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:41,119
receptions and thirty five games in their first three seasons

972
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:41,599
as well.

973
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:42,599
Speaker 3: Just insane.

974
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:47,199
Speaker 2: Pookinacua hit three hundred and sixty four point eight Fantasy

975
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,679
points on the season, passing Jackson Smith as well for

976
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,559
the most buy wide receiver He's wide receiver won this

977
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:58,199
year on points on All Your PPF League. Pokin Aku

978
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,119
is the sixth player in NFL history to have one

979
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:03,800
hundred and twenty five plus receptions ten plus receiving touchdowns

980
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,360
in the seasons. He joins Jamar Chase in twenty twenty four,

981
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,039
Seed Lamb in twenty twenty three, Cooper Cup in twenty

982
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:12,840
twenty one, Antonio Brown in twenty fourteen and fifteen, as

983
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,719
well as Marvin Harrison in two thousand and two. It's

984
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,920
an insane career trajectory. And he's still on his rookie

985
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,239
contract for one more year.

986
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: Can you believe that, Roddie?

987
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's about the extended this offseason. He about

988
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,119
to get the bag. He about to get paid this offseason.

989
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's got one more year of his

990
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:36,079
rookie contract, right.

991
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but your deal. But I can't they They can

992
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,360
do it though a year before.

993
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 3: I can't think.

994
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 5: I don't know how he's contracy.

995
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 4: We can have doctor Brady. We talked to Brady Butpina.

996
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,920
But anyway, the point is it's phenomenal to do this

997
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,199
on a rookie deal. Ben, and you mentioned a bunch

998
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,719
of the numbers and the fantasy points of passing Jack

999
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,199
Jackson Smith and Jig bug In.

1000
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 5: You know that who that guy was.

1001
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 4: That guy was a third string on the Ohio State

1002
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,400
when they beat Utah in the Rolls Bowl. That's how

1003
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,039
deep Wild State's wide receiver room missed. So that gives

1004
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:01,760
more credit to Puka. You're out performing that guy who

1005
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,960
was a five star who became a wide receiver number one. Anyway,

1006
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,000
the point has been I think this Offensive Player of

1007
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,760
the Year is gonna come down to one game.

1008
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,159
Speaker 5: You know what game is gonna be. It's gonna be when.

1009
00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:15,679
Speaker 4: The Seahawks take on the Los Angeles Rams January eighteenth,

1010
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,920
because I got the Rams beating the Panthers this Saturday

1011
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,679
at two thirty pm on Fox. That's what it's gonna

1012
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,159
come down to. Whoever wins that game, whatever team it is,

1013
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,199
and especially if the players show up and ball out,

1014
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:28,239
which I think they will. But if the Rams defeat

1015
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,960
the Seahawks to go to the NFC Championship Bend, which

1016
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:33,000
they came up short last year. I think Sean McVay

1017
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:35,599
will get that right. If they do that yet alone

1018
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:37,639
get to the Super Bowl. There's no doubt in my

1019
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,920
mind that Pooka na Coole will be the offensive Player

1020
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,960
of the year. Those type of things matters. Performances like that,

1021
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,559
They count those wins even if you're not a quarterback.

1022
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:47,480
So I think that's what is gonna come down to.

1023
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:50,639
Puka and Jackson will play not necessarily against each other,

1024
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:53,519
but against the opposing defenses next week if the Rams

1025
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:55,239
win this week, and I think that's what is gonna

1026
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:55,679
come down to.

1027
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:57,599
Speaker 3: Love that breakdown.

1028
00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,360
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I want to address the transfer portal. How many guys

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from BAU have entered the portal and how many are

1044
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currently predicted to commit to BYU that are currently in

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the portal from other schools that coming up next, Cougar

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