Speaker 1: Much for being here. I appreciate you taking the time
Speaker 1: out of your busy schedule. I know you have a
Speaker 1: lot of projects doing, you know, going on right now.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much for coming and private talk
Speaker 1: couch with us. So tell private talk who you are.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna let throw this out there. I've
Speaker 1: been a fan of you for quite some time. This
Speaker 1: is like way back when we'll get back into that.
Speaker 1: We'll get into it a little bit later. Because it's
Speaker 1: about me, it's about you. So after choreographer, dancer, a rapper,
Speaker 1: you kind of do it all.
Speaker 2: No, I don't wrap you don't wrap up. I mean
Speaker 2: I can't bust a verse. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: some verse?
Speaker 1: It's today going to be the day you're going to
Speaker 1: bust and verse. Are you like an on the spot
Speaker 1: busted verse type of person?
Speaker 2: I do? I mean, you know, I'm a writer. I'm
Speaker 2: a songwriter, so verse all the time.
Speaker 1: So can you bust a verse for Team Taxis Team Texas?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: At some point you know, all right, if NEOs saying
Speaker 3: I can bless.
Speaker 1: I mean we gotta do something spectacular. Neo, did you
Speaker 1: know he graced me with his beautiful voice? Singing independent
Speaker 1: woman because I am the independent woman. Yeah, so it
Speaker 1: was very it was very fun. I kind of like
Speaker 1: pushed it out of him, but he definitely did it
Speaker 1: from me. He was like not wanting to, but reluctantly
Speaker 1: just like real shut out of him. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: it happens. It happens, all right, So tell us what
Speaker 1: you have going on right now. I know you have
Speaker 1: a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Columbus short is my name, and my game is what
Speaker 3: you said. I'm a producer, writer, director, actor, currently producing
Speaker 3: several shows, a couple of movies, in the middle of
Speaker 3: a production on a movie right now. We're on holiday
Speaker 3: break and playing Martin Luther King, which is really awesome.
Speaker 3: It's been kind of like a a dream realized. I've
Speaker 3: been like wanting to play that role for like many years.
Speaker 3: Was close and movies, you know, fell apart, and finally
Speaker 3: like we're doing it.
Speaker 1: So, you know, so you manifested its way into like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk about that.
Speaker 1: Manifesting is I'm big into manifestation, huge manifestator. I like that.
Speaker 1: I mean too me as well. I definitely like staged
Speaker 1: the whole space before we came here. I was telling
Speaker 1: my cameraman I was like, just in case you wanted
Speaker 1: to that smell, it just staged. You know, you start
Speaker 1: off clean.
Speaker 2: I knew what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I want everybody's energy to
Speaker 1: be pure and like beautiful and like you know you, yeah,
Speaker 1: showcase you as best as we can exactly. So what
Speaker 1: is the what are you on? Break from shooting?
Speaker 2: It's called remember Me, I'm playing Martin Luther King.
Speaker 3: It's like the story of Mahelia Jackson and Martin Luther
Speaker 3: King's like relationship during the start of the civil rights movement,
Speaker 3: how he went and like recruited Mahelia to be a
Speaker 3: big voice, an advocate or ally I would say for
Speaker 3: the movement. It's a beautiful story being shot beautifully. Let
Speaker 3: us he's playing Mahelia. We got a really cool cast.
Speaker 1: When do you think that it's gonna project it to
Speaker 1: come out?
Speaker 3: We were talking about that last night with the producers.
Speaker 3: We got to finish the movie first, So honestly, we
Speaker 3: got shut down because of COVID, like two days, three
Speaker 3: days before Christmas. One of the crew members got COVID,
Speaker 3: so they shut us down for fourteen days. We're back
Speaker 3: up first week, second week of January, so I think
Speaker 3: if we wrapped by the end of January, we'll probably
Speaker 3: try to be like a late release this so we
Speaker 3: can be at least in contingent for possible trophies, you know, nice.
Speaker 1: Season manifestation, Right, it'll happen. It'll happen. We're going to
Speaker 1: will it into existence. We are. So, what's one thing
Speaker 1: that you've learned during this pandemic.
Speaker 3: That I have always been on kind of a lockdown.
Speaker 3: I've always been kind of quarantined.
Speaker 1: It's in your own mind or like.
Speaker 3: Self, Like I don't like I keep I'm a very
Speaker 3: private person in some way. I'm on private talk.
Speaker 1: Private talk of the that's all we happy here Columbus.
Speaker 3: But I like I live a low key life. I'm
Speaker 3: just I work a work, work work, and so.
Speaker 1: So nothing really changed for your trying to say it.
Speaker 2: Actually went, you know, for creatives.
Speaker 3: I think, uh, the lockdown has been super great for
Speaker 3: us because, like you like yourself, look what you've done.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Somebody said to me the other day, like, if you
Speaker 3: say you're a hustler, if COVID hasn't made you a hustler,
Speaker 3: then there's what you weren't in it.
Speaker 1: I saw that quote this morning, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's the damn true that I can't see anything at
Speaker 1: all because it's like, you know, we all we'll have
Speaker 1: something that's going on. We're all, you know, doing something,
Speaker 1: but it's like we either switched it up a little
Speaker 1: bit and kind of like fits a different route or whatever.
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, as a different definitely trying times,
Speaker 1: and not everybody has the same creative you know minds
Speaker 1: that you know we artistically are doing. But you know,
Speaker 1: in any sense of the word, you are artistic in
Speaker 1: your own talents. And if you couldn't make it out
Speaker 1: of all of this, you know, it's I.
Speaker 3: Think the world was moving so fast, so much is
Speaker 3: going on in the first people to like focus on
Speaker 3: what matters, Like do things that you said you were
Speaker 3: going to do that you put off, whether that's making
Speaker 3: a scrapbook, writing a script, you know, doing your album,
Speaker 3: finishing your app, you know, whatever your passion is. That people,
Speaker 3: because life was moving so fast, uh, they put their
Speaker 3: passions are the things that they really want to do
Speaker 3: on the back burner.
Speaker 1: So I believe in that for sure, because I feel
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of things with myself that I
Speaker 1: wanted to do that, just never thought I could have
Speaker 1: the time or whatever. And even with like the shift
Speaker 1: of gear and what I was doing and being on
Speaker 1: the road every weekend and doing that stop. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then it was like and my mind I was just
Speaker 1: talking about to my one friend. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't think I would have ever like I was in
Speaker 1: the gears of motions of slowing things down, but if
Speaker 1: nothing abruptly would have happened, I would have have shifted
Speaker 1: the gears of where I'm at now. And you know,
Speaker 1: who knows if that's good, batter and different, but I
Speaker 1: believe it's a good you know, everything happens for a reason,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna keep on trucking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it for sure. So what do you think
Speaker 1: about mainstream media?
Speaker 3: This is a this is a good question. It's it's
Speaker 3: it's it's a it's a it's a double ledged sword gift.
Speaker 3: It's definitely gift occurs, you know, if I can like
Speaker 3: directly relate it to me personally. So, like very young,
Speaker 3: at like twenty one, I was like, you know, choreographing
Speaker 3: for Britney Spears, and you know, I saw you know,
Speaker 3: creative directing. So I saw like what fame and what
Speaker 3: the media does to her.
Speaker 1: Like behind the scenes, like what.
Speaker 3: They're doing, like you know, headlines that weren't true, these
Speaker 3: are you know, things like that, and I saw the
Speaker 3: toll it takes on them, right, And then it's like
Speaker 3: once I became my own man, and like my name
Speaker 3: became a name, I guess you would say, you know,
Speaker 3: I felt it on me, not for somebody else. And
Speaker 3: that's when I was like, you know, f the media
Speaker 3: I got. I was really angry at like TMZ and
Speaker 3: you know, these bloggers and these things that are necessary
Speaker 3: to the game.
Speaker 1: Right, So why were you mad? Per se? Because they
Speaker 1: were lying about you, because they were putting you in
Speaker 1: a false narrative, or they in all of the above.
Speaker 2: Correct, And I'm not one to.
Speaker 1: And because you said you're so private, right, So my.
Speaker 3: Whole career has been I believe in mystique. Right, I
Speaker 3: still believe in old Hollywood, Like you've never seen me
Speaker 3: on a reality show or doing that. Like you're not
Speaker 3: going to get into my life because I want you
Speaker 3: to believe the characters that I'm playing when I'm on screen, right,
Speaker 3: something Right, So when the first time you really get
Speaker 3: into my life and it's a false narrative and they're
Speaker 3: running it and running it and running it. I was
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, arrogant enough to think, well,
Speaker 3: it's just going to go, it's to blow over. But
Speaker 3: it really did have some some irreparable damage to my name,
Speaker 3: to my to my my ability to do what I
Speaker 3: love to do. So I was angry about that for
Speaker 3: a long term. What way, you know, So if we're
Speaker 3: gonna be bluntt.
Speaker 2: Shirt, you know, I'm gonna keep it on. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: keep it on.
Speaker 1: Buck I like it. Columbus private talk. I hope you're
Speaker 1: listening because he's about to get real with us, be
Speaker 1: real book.
Speaker 3: So you know, I was in you know, at the
Speaker 3: height of my career, I guess you'd say on Scandal.
Speaker 3: It was a number one show on ABC, and it
Speaker 3: was a big deal that you know, Kerry Washington and
Speaker 3: African American, first African American to be leader series on
Speaker 3: the network television. And I was number two, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, thank you, And it was a big deal.
Speaker 3: But I was in a very very toxic marriage, like
Speaker 3: like toxic to the it's in the book.
Speaker 2: You guys got to get the book.
Speaker 3: People. You gotta read it too. Maybe you read a
Speaker 3: couple of chapters, but you gotta read it. And when
Speaker 3: I was decided I had enough of the toxicity, my
Speaker 3: ex wife like was like, it's almost like that graveyard love,
Speaker 3: Like if you're gonna you're not gonna write off in
Speaker 3: the sunset and be happy, and I'm not like, you're
Speaker 3: gonna you're and be famous and be.
Speaker 1: The kind of So I'm gonna tear you down with me.
Speaker 3: And she knew, she told me, you know, I didn't
Speaker 3: believe her. She was like, I can tear I can
Speaker 3: I can destroy you in an instant.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how And now I'm sure and you know,
Speaker 1: no offense and we're getting to know, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: you had an ego so of me like no one
Speaker 1: can tear me down whatever.
Speaker 3: Again, but it was it was it was a I've
Speaker 3: always I've always been humble.
Speaker 2: I'm a humble man.
Speaker 3: But there was a air of what are you talking about,
Speaker 3: Like I'm covered, I'm protected by see by Disney, by
Speaker 3: Shanda by you know, I got my squad. You can
Speaker 3: You're not just gonna drag me and she she she
Speaker 3: went to the lowest road. I guess the only thing
Speaker 3: she could say is like that I was abusive to her,
Speaker 3: which I never was, right, If anything, it was the opposite,
Speaker 3: which men don't talk about. They don't talk about allowing
Speaker 3: women to be abusive to me.
Speaker 1: But I think it's also because people the out like
Speaker 1: society thinks that maybe it shows men are weak, which
Speaker 1: is not something. It's a weak thing.
Speaker 2: It's but I think that.
Speaker 3: But I think that it's an easy narrative for the
Speaker 3: masses to agree with. First of all, being a black
Speaker 3: man being in a powerful position. Of course he's probably abusive,
Speaker 3: of course, and the fact that I was quit quite
Speaker 3: frankly really just ashamed of the fact that I was
Speaker 3: like abusing drugs at a high level to maintain, like
Speaker 3: I try to maintain my life with her.
Speaker 1: How do you think that that would have come to
Speaker 1: light if nothing like as crazy when came to light
Speaker 1: with your situation of you getting help.
Speaker 3: No, because I went to rehab after season. Had they
Speaker 3: forced me to go? It wasn't because it was because
Speaker 3: I was like, drama happened with my wife and on set, and.
Speaker 2: You know, I was left set.
Speaker 3: This is all this I got opened the book with
Speaker 3: this but I left set one day February twelve, twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: We were shooting episode two twelve, Season two, Episode twelve.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to rewatch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I like left set, like I found out
Speaker 3: some information and I was like Distrata walked across the
Speaker 3: street to Gower. I was we shot on rosc Gower
Speaker 3: and Sunset. So I walked across the street to this
Speaker 3: liquor store next to Roscoe's, bought this bottle of shar
Speaker 3: Dan just started walking toward like one oh one, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, got my passport, I got my ID, like
Speaker 3: I'm leaving. I'm just like on some Dave spell shit,
Speaker 3: I'm going to Africa. It's crazy, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: So I'm out.
Speaker 3: I'm out and to get your advocate tickets ready, baby.
Speaker 3: And I think you know it was It went down
Speaker 3: in the production report. You know Columbus Short walking down
Speaker 3: Sunset and in six thousand dollars worth of clothes and
Speaker 3: uh in a wine bottle. Yeah, he's gonna need to
Speaker 3: go to rehabit.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I did that, and nobody knew, like the
Speaker 3: media media. I went back to season three. Nobody ever
Speaker 3: found out at this point.
Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt your story, but at this point were
Speaker 1: you doing like things on set that would make them
Speaker 1: what you do that It was just literally that that moment,
Speaker 1: they're like, something's wrong if you know, this isn't your
Speaker 1: character exactly.
Speaker 3: So they were like it got all the way to
Speaker 3: the top, and they're like, the only way we can
Speaker 3: let this ride.
Speaker 1: Is if you're gonna go and get get help.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So and it was more important for them
Speaker 3: for me to like see somebody to talk about what
Speaker 3: was really going on because they knew. But I was
Speaker 3: like so ashamed of how dysfunctional my life was, so
Speaker 3: I hit it, you know, and dealt with it on
Speaker 3: my own private little ways.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, that's natural. I think that you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's only natural to be a person in
Speaker 1: your stature, Like you're getting into success, this limelight and
Speaker 1: all these things that you saw other people doing you
Speaker 1: coming up in the business, and now it's all the
Speaker 1: lights on you, and it's like, hey, I'm not a
Speaker 1: bad guy. You're making me the bad guy, and I'm
Speaker 1: not a bad guy. So it's like you almost have
Speaker 1: to defend yourself. But the more you defend yourself, the
Speaker 1: more you look guilty.
Speaker 3: And then exactly, so I said, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: say anything, right, I'm not going to say anything.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to fight back.
Speaker 3: And I was kind of honer against the courts, like,
Speaker 3: you know, you made these false claims in court. There's
Speaker 3: no way, nothing, nothing is true. There's no pictures, there's
Speaker 3: no you know, there's nothing saying, no evidence of this
Speaker 3: at all. So I'm like, but don't play with the court.
Speaker 3: It's what I figured out, like not showing up the
Speaker 3: court dates I was in, Like I was in Barbados
Speaker 3: on one of the court days. So when I got back,
Speaker 3: now I have failure to appears. Now I have you know,
Speaker 3: they think I'm just arrogant. So they're like, you know what,
Speaker 3: Oh we're gonna, Oh, we're gonna, We're going.
Speaker 1: You just think if you didn't gonna go, I just.
Speaker 2: Maybe because I never really.
Speaker 1: Dealt with legal Yeah you were to be in trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I would never dealt with it. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not in it. Really, my honre behavior
Speaker 3: really was you know the problem. And then now I'm like,
Speaker 3: got a probation officer and now I'm like huh. So
Speaker 3: then you know, I was still doing coke at that time,
Speaker 3: so I'm like and smoking weeds and I'm like pissing dirty.
Speaker 2: So now I'm like failing.
Speaker 3: I don't know what a probation violation is, Like you're
Speaker 3: going to jail, That's what happens to get a probation violation.
Speaker 3: And so all of these things just started compiling. And
Speaker 3: then the thing that really shocked me, not shocked me,
Speaker 3: but hurt. But I understand now completely is that the
Speaker 3: ones that I expected to have my back had to
Speaker 3: distance themselves like almost like we have like everybody has
Speaker 3: to distance themselves from Columbus because he's not it's not
Speaker 3: a good he's not a good looker.
Speaker 1: Now you say that you understand that, Now what do
Speaker 1: you understand from that?
Speaker 2: That one?
Speaker 3: You know, when you have a certain stature and your
Speaker 3: name is respected in a certain way. Let's say, I'll uh,
Speaker 3: Chris Evans, who's a really close friend of mine.
Speaker 2: He's Captain America.
Speaker 3: I can't like he's focused his image like he can't
Speaker 3: be And that's the that's.
Speaker 1: The part about you know, the industry, is that as
Speaker 1: much as they're your friends, they can only like support
Speaker 1: you so much without tarnishing something in their own thing
Speaker 1: because of like having something.
Speaker 2: Happens just a bad look.
Speaker 3: So you know, I had I had all that like
Speaker 3: anger about that, and then I was so it was
Speaker 3: like writing this book was kind of the cathartic healing
Speaker 3: process for me to like you know, the man writing
Speaker 3: for the child.
Speaker 2: I guess I was. You know, there was still a
Speaker 2: lot of check. You know.
Speaker 3: I was always a pro, like I can I can
Speaker 3: do this, it's in my sleep. But I couldn't do
Speaker 3: life well Like I wasn't didn't have life skills, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it had to like I had to grow up.
Speaker 3: All of it was meant and I'm grateful for every trial,
Speaker 3: every tribulation that I went through. I'd go through it
Speaker 3: again if I had to to learn what.
Speaker 2: I know now.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I mean I feel like, you know, obviously
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad parts that happened, but I
Speaker 1: think that everybody's you know story. We all go through shit,
Speaker 1: we all you know, we all internalize it differently, we
Speaker 1: always heal differently and things like that. But as long
Speaker 1: as you can come full circle and see the good
Speaker 1: and the bad, and the indifferent of all it and
Speaker 1: know that that you're just you're moving forward to a
Speaker 1: better place. I feel like then that's you know, the
Speaker 1: first you know in the process of like grieving and
Speaker 1: like healing to the better person of yourself.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're gonna give you.
Speaker 1: A applause to that too. I mean it's hard work,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean in every day you know
Speaker 1: now even it's like it's you know, we all like
Speaker 1: I've been divorced, you know myself, and it's like, even
Speaker 1: though it was a decision that I made, it was
Speaker 1: a difficult decision even if you.
Speaker 2: Choose it, it is terrible, like divorce and death are
Speaker 2: like and.
Speaker 1: I and honestly saying that, you say that is because
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with my ex husband and he said,
Speaker 1: when you know more to the healing side of things,
Speaker 1: was like it was like like the only thing I can,
Speaker 1: like example of whise to it is like it's like
Speaker 1: you died and I can't had no access to you,
Speaker 1: had nothing whatever, and I had to mourn you in
Speaker 1: a way and get over the loss of you because
Speaker 1: of that. So it's like you're mourning the death of
Speaker 1: a relationship. Really is what it is, you know, and
Speaker 1: and that's just a factual thing. And you know, it
Speaker 1: was a hard realization because you know, nobody wants nobody
Speaker 1: gets married to get divorced. You want that situation into work,
Speaker 1: and you want to you know, be grow as one.
Speaker 1: But sometimes that's just not in the cards for everybody.
Speaker 1: And some people throw apart and some people are toxic.
Speaker 1: And when you're young, you make decisions for yourself and
Speaker 1: each other that you may not have done in an
Speaker 1: awoke moment of things, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: when you said the first relationship is it was toxic.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes us being young, we thrive off of
Speaker 1: things that happen in our childhood that we're working those
Speaker 1: or a product of you know. And it's unfortunately with
Speaker 1: my healing, you know, I blamed my parent I went
Speaker 1: through process of blaming myself, I mean, my parents, blame
Speaker 1: me whatever, and then just realizing what it was is
Speaker 1: because I wasn't given the tools to deal with or
Speaker 1: know how to have a good relationship, because I wasn't
Speaker 1: shown that. And not that my parents' relationship was horrible,
Speaker 1: but what I saw from the choices and staying and
Speaker 1: things like that is also implemented in decisions that I've
Speaker 1: made in my current life, you know, and things like that.
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's just awareness of now we have
Speaker 1: these tools, and I may not have gotten the when
Speaker 1: I'm younger, but I can only make an excuse for
Speaker 1: so long because I'm an adult. I can't keep blaming
Speaker 1: anybody but myself because I'm allowing myself to preach the
Speaker 1: situation you heard it's.
Speaker 3: Crazy because it's because I was in a place just
Speaker 3: like that where I'm like I was. I was comfortable
Speaker 3: in toxicity because that's all I knew. When when when
Speaker 3: I got like peace, I'm like, something's wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting, like.
Speaker 1: But that's also probably why you went to all their alternatives, drinking, drugs, whatever,
Speaker 1: is because you thought I was happy. But then those
Speaker 1: womens were like, let me just block it out.
Speaker 3: Let me just yeah, I know it, I know it's toxic,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna rock.
Speaker 1: This out because and for me, I don't know your son,
Speaker 1: you know, indulge is that it was that I don't
Speaker 1: want someone to give up on me, because I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to give up on someone else.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: So it's like we're doing this together right and code
Speaker 1: dependent on each other's you know flaws and you know
Speaker 1: the insecurities and everything, and then you know someone so well.
Speaker 3: I never wanted to be the guy that like made it.
Speaker 3: And you know she was with me before I was
Speaker 3: quote unquote Columbus short. So I'm like, I'm gonna write
Speaker 3: it out. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: Blow up and leave you because of image wise.
Speaker 3: No, just because of loyalty, Like I'm a loyal man.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I'll ride. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, once you're not, once you become dangerous
Speaker 3: to me like I can't. There was that point where
Speaker 3: it was like, okay, you're dangerous to me and my livelihood.
Speaker 3: And you know that proved Uh, that proved correct for
Speaker 3: a season, but thank goodness, I'm resilient and life changed
Speaker 3: came back around.
Speaker 1: So how how did with all of that being said, whatever,
Speaker 1: how did you overcome addiction? You went to rehab.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest with you like
Speaker 3: I was never completely honest with you. I wasn't addicted
Speaker 3: to cocaine like I was. You know some I know
Speaker 3: people that are just it was. It was a thing
Speaker 3: like I literally I had to stay up.
Speaker 2: You know. It was like adderall and coke. I was like,
Speaker 2: those are my options. You know. It wasn't like I
Speaker 2: was partying, like let's go like you know.
Speaker 1: What everybody's addiction, how I's so.
Speaker 3: The so, the the the the self diagnosis of I
Speaker 3: thought I was my own pharmacist, like, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do coke. I'm gonna get high, then I'm gonna come
Speaker 3: down because I'm gonna drink. And I was just doing
Speaker 3: this like for about a year and a half, like
Speaker 3: this real balancing act with things that were not healthy
Speaker 3: for me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And once I went.
Speaker 3: To rehab, cr twusson, shout out, and we just got
Speaker 3: down to the bottom of shit. So it's to cuss,
Speaker 3: but we got down. Yeah, we got down at the
Speaker 3: bottom of like why, like what's going on? Like stuff
Speaker 3: I didn't deal with as a child, And I think,
Speaker 3: you know, you just hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 3: Is we walk around with all these bags and we
Speaker 3: accumulate them and accumulate them and they start to damage
Speaker 3: our interpersonal relationships, They damage ourselves, our emotional stasture, our
Speaker 3: self esteem, whatever we can put up front, so we
Speaker 3: can put up all these insecurities that people don't want
Speaker 3: to talk about and tell it rears its ugly head.
Speaker 3: And even then we don't deal with this. So like
Speaker 3: Black people especially, we deal with trauma after traumas after traumas,
Speaker 3: and we're taught to just keep moving, like you just
Speaker 3: keep pushing, don't even talk about it. You bury it
Speaker 3: under the rug, and you just go. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I put I feel like you put that in
Speaker 1: a color thing.
Speaker 2: I feel like I mean that everybody.
Speaker 1: I think it's everybody, Like I don't think, I mean
Speaker 1: for myself, you know what I mean? Like, I like,
Speaker 1: we don't talk about it. What happened last yesterday, were
Speaker 1: moving on like nothing happened today. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: like why I have why I did the same pathig.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, I mean for I think it's
Speaker 1: just a human thing. I think people are too caught
Speaker 1: up in like an image of being the perfect family,
Speaker 1: the perfectness, the Perfectever, nobody's perfect. People have flaws, people
Speaker 1: are gonna make mistakes. There's no book to why and
Speaker 1: how we're supposed to live this life it's what what's
Speaker 1: your path and what's your That's always say is to
Speaker 1: each his own. Whatever works for you may not work
Speaker 1: for me, but if it's not harming me in my life,
Speaker 1: then it is what it is.
Speaker 2: So the real thing was, you know, laying that down
Speaker 2: was easy.
Speaker 1: It was not about was that the first time that
Speaker 1: you actually had like a counseling where you actually like
Speaker 1: talked about these things.
Speaker 3: Like crazy about model and I like, so I had
Speaker 3: this like crazy idea that all therapy was like Koch's
Speaker 3: like they're crazy because my mom is nuts, right and period.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, I'll never talk to nobody.
Speaker 1: I'll never know you had a preconceived notion of what
Speaker 1: I was like this was forced to do it.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: And then you know, uh shout out to another doctor,
Speaker 3: h Charles Sophie, he's the man sitting down with him
Speaker 3: just on just just chopping it up when things are
Speaker 3: getting confusing in my head or things I need to
Speaker 3: just work through or job you know insecurity is about
Speaker 3: like a big job that's coming up, and am I
Speaker 3: gonna be able to you know, am I going to
Speaker 3: be able to perform? I'm not gonna be am I
Speaker 3: gonna fail, I'm gonna mess this up. Pressure, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? How to just deal with it?
Speaker 2: Like Lebron. I give this example.
Speaker 3: Lebron didn't win those championships all those years, and it
Speaker 3: was like he was always close, and you know, I
Speaker 3: wasn't until he like went sat down with somebody. There's
Speaker 3: like something blocking your you're blocking yourself. And once you
Speaker 3: figure that out, then it's like whow and that's to happen.
Speaker 2: It was like the whole game changed.
Speaker 1: That's that's amazing, that's really cool. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: really I have a great admiration to that. You know,
Speaker 1: people don't like to deal with their problems sometimes and
Speaker 1: they'll just be like, oh, okay, I'm I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: do this. I did the time. All right, I'm good,
Speaker 1: and you go back right into the same thing. But
Speaker 1: it's like again being aware and like fixing it. And
Speaker 1: again it's not something that's a quick fix. It's an
Speaker 1: everyday thing, you know, it's just you continue to keep
Speaker 1: learning those things.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: You posted on ig you did a suicide you know
Speaker 1: for prevention and things like that, how you know, and
Speaker 1: a post you did about like a suicide. I think
Speaker 1: awareness and like how do you deal the encouragement like
Speaker 1: and with encouragement of it, Like how did you deal
Speaker 1: with these trying times with all the COVID and all
Speaker 1: these like bad times in the world and all this
Speaker 1: like crazy, all this craziness, you know, what's been going
Speaker 1: on the last year, Like how do you deal to
Speaker 1: be on this uplifting keeping this uplifting space where you
Speaker 1: have grown from to that.
Speaker 3: You've the power of the word and the power of
Speaker 3: thought is everything. What we think is where we are right,
Speaker 3: So you can be in that dark place of depression, right,
Speaker 3: people can get depression is real, which then depression leads
Speaker 3: to seruicide a lot of times. But it's you're you're thinking,
Speaker 3: You're thinking, so I no matter what's going on, I'm
Speaker 3: always thinking positively. I'm always thinking that this is not bad.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not bad. Like whatever it is, we're
Speaker 3: gonna get through it, you know, Like I said, powerful manifestation.
Speaker 3: So as as the world is crazy and the world
Speaker 3: is turning and it's looking it's looking bleak, and people
Speaker 3: don't have jobs and homeless homelessness is at all time high,
Speaker 3: and you know, there's still hope.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: There's always tomorrow if you don't give up, Like I
Speaker 3: could have laid down in the middle of the street
Speaker 3: and gave up, like completely, Like there's no way I'm
Speaker 3: going to be able to do what I love again.
Speaker 3: There's no way I'll have to find happiness. There's no
Speaker 3: way I'll find love again. There's no way I'll you know,
Speaker 3: have a family, there's no way, Like I should just
Speaker 3: I should just quit. And by quit, you can lay
Speaker 3: down and give up or actually put a bullet in
Speaker 3: your head or something, right, And I never quit. I
Speaker 3: just kept putting my foot in front of the other.
Speaker 2: Every day.
Speaker 3: There was always tomorrow until you know, I I was
Speaker 3: crawling and I was walking and I was running, and
Speaker 3: I was written.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And so that is how
Speaker 2: you can get through these times.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I applaud your you know, your journey and
Speaker 1: you sharing that with us here on private talk. You
Speaker 1: know it's not I know, it's not always the easiest things,
Speaker 1: and so you know, talk about things that.
Speaker 3: Personal Like I'm an open book. I used to be
Speaker 3: like super super private. Now I'm like, look, let's keep
Speaker 3: it UPU.
Speaker 1: But you did write your book Short Stories, Yes, yes
Speaker 1: I did. So tell us where we could find that
Speaker 1: that is.
Speaker 2: You can get it on Amazon.
Speaker 3: You can get it on Walmart dot com, Target dot com.
Speaker 2: It should be on shelves once they open back up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get in your have to like
Speaker 1: sign it for me.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna bring it. I'm gonna bring you a copy.
Speaker 1: I like it. I did. I haven't read it yet,
Speaker 1: but I you know, I've read like excerpts. But I
Speaker 1: definitely I was a fan from Scandal. I'm a Scandal fan.
Speaker 1: I was super like. I was religiously all about the show.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I was sad to see you go.
Speaker 1: It definitely was a journey that I guess that you
Speaker 1: needed to go on to be the person that you
Speaker 1: are now and now you're doing bigger things. Yes, So
Speaker 1: what is your favorite or let's say this, what is
Speaker 1: your hardest role that you've ever played? Mmm?
Speaker 3: Hardest that our most challenging. I would say was the
Speaker 3: most challenging. I played Little Walter in Cadillac Records. That
Speaker 3: was a very challenging role.
Speaker 1: Can you explain it to us why?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, there wasn't a lot of footage
Speaker 2: on him to like emulate and emulate, right, So I.
Speaker 3: Had to I had to like really build a character
Speaker 3: from scratch, only with the information I knew. He played Harnmonica,
Speaker 3: he was from Louisiana, he was from the Bayou, he
Speaker 3: spoke French. So then I had to go get a
Speaker 3: dialect coach to find this this buy you Patois, you know,
Speaker 3: southern Louisiana.
Speaker 1: And this is all the stuff that people out there
Speaker 1: don't realize that you put so much in your craft
Speaker 1: that you're like wanting to be this much of it,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And that's what I was.
Speaker 3: Doing an action movie like right before, called Armored, and
Speaker 3: so I was kind of like really ripped and you
Speaker 3: know a little bigger, and I had to be small
Speaker 3: and framing, like like a small framed guy wiry. And
Speaker 3: so the last ten days of production on Armored, because
Speaker 3: as soon as the day I wrapped Armored, I had
Speaker 3: to go to New York to start filming Cadillac Records.
Speaker 3: So I did the Lemonade Beyonce dial like did not
Speaker 3: eat an inch of food for ten fourteen days, so
Speaker 3: which I never did. So that was like taxting on
Speaker 3: my body taxing mentally. Yeah, and then you know, honestly,
Speaker 3: like I started drinking. I didn't really drink before that,
Speaker 3: but I wanted to be like him. So I was
Speaker 3: like I was drinking a bottle of Jamis in a day,
Speaker 3: like you know, like no food, no nothing like, but
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I was so engulfed in I was in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that was the most challenging.
Speaker 3: I think the smartin Luther King is challenging only not
Speaker 3: because of the challenge, but it's because of who he was,
Speaker 3: and you know, I want to make sure that it's.
Speaker 1: Portrayed in like the best way possible. I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean that's I mean a prestigious role to you know,
Speaker 1: be able to be a character.
Speaker 3: And you know his responsibility. I feel it, you know.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, you know, so I think those two everything.
Speaker 3: You know, I haven't been I haven't met my my
Speaker 3: biggest challenge yet.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that. I believe it's gonna come.
Speaker 3: I know it's gonna come to where I really really
Speaker 3: stretch all the way out.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: Would you consider yourself a sex.
Speaker 2: Symbol at one time? I think I was.
Speaker 1: Why one time? Why not?
Speaker 2: Now? I don't know. I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, why, why are you blushing? Now? Private talk you
Speaker 1: can over here.
Speaker 3: I think that's part of the thing. I mean, the
Speaker 3: president of Sony, who gave me my career, he was like,
Speaker 3: you know, he's like, you're movie star. I'm like, what, Like,
Speaker 3: but what defines a movie star? I'm an actor clan,
Speaker 3: I'm like a real actor. I'm not just He's like, no,
Speaker 3: every man needs to want to be you and every
Speaker 3: woman needs to want to you. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: so that's the definition. Okay, So I think that's been
Speaker 3: part of who Columbus short is the sex symbol of
Speaker 3: it all. But I wanted to be I've always aspired
Speaker 3: for more than that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can feel that, but private talk things you're
Speaker 1: a sex symbol.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: What does authentic mean to you?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Being authentic?
Speaker 2: First, it's not being authentic to yourself.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people are delusional in this world,
Speaker 3: and I think IG has a big freaking delusional people.
Speaker 3: People are delusional, So you can't be authentic to yourself.
Speaker 3: You don't even know where to start about being authentic.
Speaker 3: The thing authentic is saying what you mean, meaning what
Speaker 3: you say, make your yeses yes, and your nose no.
Speaker 3: Being the same person no matter what station you are
Speaker 3: in life. Right, you're defined people. Can you know who
Speaker 3: true people are, their true character? When they have power
Speaker 3: and when they have nothing, you can find out a
Speaker 3: lot about people, right, And you should be the same
Speaker 3: person with power or with nothing. So that's being authentic,
Speaker 3: being one hundred to yourself and being the same person
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 1: See that's a Southern way for me. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's why for me, it's like me being from Texas,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, obviously you know it was
Speaker 1: Alexis Texas and this whole you know, persona or whatever,
Speaker 1: but I never left who I was, like it was,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like I'm not better
Speaker 1: than anybody else. You know, I put my pants on
Speaker 1: every single day just like you. As long as you
Speaker 1: respect me and I can sit here and talk to
Speaker 1: you in a respectful way whatever. Until you start disrespecting
Speaker 1: do I have a feeling into like I need to
Speaker 1: talk to a certain way. But you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And that's why for me is like it's just you know,
Speaker 1: the evolution of people and getting to know everybody. Everybody like,
Speaker 1: everybody's going through their own trials and tribulations. We don't
Speaker 1: need to put an added pressure and be like, oh
Speaker 1: I don't like what you're wearing, or oh I don't
Speaker 1: like this. It's like it's just extra for no reason. Yes,
Speaker 1: So do you think that social media? Do you think
Speaker 1: social media has given too much access to celebrities?
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's actually the celebrity giving the access. I mean,
Speaker 3: I remember I didn't have a Twitter, I didn't have
Speaker 3: an IG when I started Scandal, but it was mandated,
Speaker 3: like mandated, and it was a huge contributor to why
Speaker 3: the show was successful. You know, we live tweeting and
Speaker 3: doing all that stuff, but you know, it starts to
Speaker 3: become this thing where you like feel like you have
Speaker 3: to post something or like you have to let people
Speaker 3: in to your life.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, and you're.
Speaker 1: One of those private people here, so you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to give you what I want to give you.
Speaker 3: That's you know what I mean. But now, you know,
Speaker 3: think about it only fans. I mean, you know, people
Speaker 3: are just doing too much on the ground now, Like
Speaker 3: it's like, really like this is how we.
Speaker 1: Why it's only fans? Too much for you on the ground.
Speaker 3: Well that's not too much, Like I don't. I don't
Speaker 3: subscribe to anybody's.
Speaker 1: Account that sucks subscribe to mine.
Speaker 2: I haven't. Only there's free ways too, So.
Speaker 1: You're not going to subscribe to You're telling private talk
Speaker 1: Columbus short. He's telling me he's not subscribing.
Speaker 2: I could already be subscribed.
Speaker 3: I could be subscribed, was not subscribed. Subscribe, I could
Speaker 3: be go subscribe. So you're lying, go subscriber.
Speaker 1: So you're lying or taking After this episode, now you'll
Speaker 1: probably okay, we'll get back to them.
Speaker 3: So no, but like now it's all of this. It's
Speaker 3: you know, I respect the people that are normally fans
Speaker 3: that are making bread. Like that's the hustle, right, You're
Speaker 3: giving people your life for free on the ground and
Speaker 3: now you can make money.
Speaker 2: So my boy, yeah, my boy.
Speaker 3: Pleasure Pe like he's like, boy, I got I got
Speaker 3: my only fan.
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's like, I'll make bread.
Speaker 1: I'm like, for real, what what is pleasure Pe doing it?
Speaker 1: On there? Is he giving the pleasure P or is
Speaker 1: he just like doing BTS?
Speaker 2: I think he's given the pleasure P.
Speaker 1: See that's the difference for me. So like obviously gisure.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's said before a pleasure people,
Speaker 1: you can use it. I'll just say you like. But
Speaker 1: my thing is is like, so, okay, I've talked about
Speaker 1: this several times in private talk, but like in this
Speaker 1: context of conversation, it's like I had only fans before.
Speaker 1: Only fans was crazistic, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't made for adult performers, but dot
Speaker 1: performers made them the network popular. So it's been around
Speaker 1: for a really long time, over two years for sure, but.
Speaker 2: It just started like popping pop well.
Speaker 1: For everybody else, but it's been popping for me. But
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like it was. That's why everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: like no, I was doing stuff before. Y'all just were
Speaker 1: too late to be on certain things. And that's cool,
Speaker 1: but you know, but the same thing is why I'm
Speaker 1: not on Thriller or you know, TikTok or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I don't know those platforms because I didn't take the
Speaker 1: time to learn how to monetize from it. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that wasn't around now because I haven't done it.
Speaker 1: So with the other people coming in now because of
Speaker 1: COVID and now people's money's you know, been taken on
Speaker 1: other platforms. They can't you know, tour, they can't do
Speaker 1: this then and whatever have to do. So they're doing
Speaker 1: something and not have to. They've chosen to do it
Speaker 1: because I'm about accountability. So it's about chosen to do
Speaker 1: a platform whatever. So my thing is is pick your lane.
Speaker 1: Pick your lane in it a lot of ways. So
Speaker 1: if the pleasure p wants to give the pleasure pee,
Speaker 1: then do the pleasure pee whatever. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But he does music as well, So that's why I say,
Speaker 1: how do you feel?
Speaker 2: Do you feel there are coming into your life?
Speaker 1: Temper? Yes, one tho. But what I do respect And
Speaker 1: I've had people on here and it's changed my opinion
Speaker 1: about it because there there's been people from different avenues.
Speaker 1: When they do when they tell me what they're doing
Speaker 1: on their platform, it works for their brand, and I
Speaker 1: get that. That's what I'm saying. Like there's some people
Speaker 1: that even just have bts of them doing or whatever.
Speaker 1: And for me, I'm all about entrepreneurship and that's how,
Speaker 1: you know, how I make my living right and I'm
Speaker 1: all about howing to make all those things work. But
Speaker 1: it's like when you come in something and you're just
Speaker 1: coming into like to do a smash and grab, that
Speaker 1: to me is a problem because now you're making it
Speaker 1: look watered down and what I've done and my craft
Speaker 1: is isn't what it really is because it to me
Speaker 1: is like my own it's my own production. I do
Speaker 1: everything myself. It's all about, you know, my personal content.
Speaker 1: I don't shoot poorn anymore, but I shoot my own
Speaker 1: stuff for myself. So that's my thread and by.
Speaker 3: And that's that, and that's see. Then you could like
Speaker 3: you're you're a pioneer in that game, in that space.
Speaker 3: To me, it looks like a lot of people are
Speaker 3: what is it called, what are you call it?
Speaker 2: Like fat?
Speaker 1: It's a fad for sure, and that's where the and
Speaker 1: that's the sash grab for me is like if you're
Speaker 1: doing on the Instagram more than you have your fan base,
Speaker 1: capitalize off it all day, but don't sit there and
Speaker 1: insinuate that you're doing other things when you're not doing it,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 3: Let's do so like people that are like, I think
Speaker 3: it's misleading for said many people that are on the ground,
Speaker 3: you know, taking pictures they're making it makes people depressed.
Speaker 2: So like it's like people.
Speaker 1: That because they're faking their life and their.
Speaker 2: Life, they're faking their life taking it for the ground.
Speaker 3: Off full caps, and and it's that leads to the
Speaker 3: depression of people that are like regular people with like
Speaker 3: you know, five hundred followers that just follow all these people.
Speaker 2: They're like, why do they get to live this amazing life?
Speaker 2: Why is there Like you.
Speaker 3: Know what, like it's cool if I go on vacation,
Speaker 3: I'm on the beach, does not mean I need to
Speaker 3: this needs to go for the ground. Like, first of all,
Speaker 3: I don't want y' people to know where I'm at. Secondly,
Speaker 3: do you know what I'm saying, I don't want to make.
Speaker 1: Anybody feel better after Columbus? You do you post it
Speaker 1: the week later when.
Speaker 2: We're already but like, who are you flexing for? You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying it?
Speaker 1: But I think it's also because of like it goes
Speaker 1: with a branding of some people because now you know,
Speaker 1: people to be famous or whatever, you can be a
Speaker 1: content creator of YouTube TikTok, and then the younger generation
Speaker 1: of like social media users are all about what you
Speaker 1: are not about is like getting in to know what
Speaker 1: their life is. You don't want that. They will sit
Speaker 1: there and have a camera twenty four to seven, And
Speaker 1: that's what why they become so because people just want
Speaker 1: to know what the most ridiculous, craziest thing in all
Speaker 1: those things. For me, that's not me either. Like I
Speaker 1: got into the business. I'm an adult. I used to
Speaker 1: be the entertainer all those things, and I'm you know,
Speaker 1: branded in that sense. And so even for me, putting
Speaker 1: my personal life is really odd to me because I'm
Speaker 1: not a Lexus Alexis, Texas twenty four seven. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a.
Speaker 2: Who are you outside of that.
Speaker 1: To know turned you know, I haven't written a book
Speaker 1: like you yet, but when I do, they're gonna find
Speaker 1: out who the other part of me really is. But
Speaker 1: that's also part of the reason why I started this
Speaker 1: podcast was before I never really did the video stuff
Speaker 1: because for me, it's weird to like hold the phone
Speaker 1: and do and not be in the moment. I'd rather
Speaker 1: have someone else video it and me just be my
Speaker 1: natural self than like like feel like it just seemed phone.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem natural to me. So that's why for me,
Speaker 1: it's like this is how I've opened up about my life,
Speaker 1: my opinions, my whatever and given my full like non
Speaker 1: censorship like reasons and like what it is. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But that's the thing is like I
Speaker 1: I wanted to show that the people too, is that
Speaker 1: I'm not just a porn star. I wasn't just a
Speaker 1: porn star. I have a mind to my you know,
Speaker 1: I have a mind. I have more than just what
Speaker 1: my body was or not was it still is, but
Speaker 1: that is you know what I mean, I'm so a
Speaker 1: bad bitch. I would tell you know what's that joined
Speaker 1: my only fans, but but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: there's disappoint It's like I'm not just a sex worker.
Speaker 1: I wasn't just that, you know. And I haven't done
Speaker 1: in the business in three to four years. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I shun the business at all. I
Speaker 1: embrace it. I you know, it's a part of who
Speaker 1: I am. I had an enjoyable time in my career
Speaker 1: and I think it's you know, it's it's just an
Speaker 1: evolution of different content creating, right, you know, and what
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable doing and creating and what you're comfortable doing
Speaker 1: and creating is different, but there's still two lanes for us.
Speaker 1: I will, but if you don't subscribe to my only
Speaker 1: fans of show, we're gonna fight.
Speaker 2: It's a ghost follower, it's just the egg. So what's
Speaker 2: this game?
Speaker 1: What's this game? We're not to my game yet, but
Speaker 1: we will take a break because I have to cope.
Speaker 1: Really had all right? All right, Private Talk, I hope
Speaker 1: you're liking this episode CAUs I surely am getting to
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Speaker 2: I'm ready?
Speaker 1: All right, don't be scared. They're all going to be
Speaker 1: ass Each suit is a different question. We're going to
Speaker 1: go through all of them. Let's do it, all right,
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Speaker 1: our favorite here. It's the naughty question. All right, Private Talk,
Speaker 1: we want to get naughty. We want to get me right?
Speaker 2: Is that when that voice comes around?
Speaker 1: That's my phone sex operator voice. I've been practicing since
Speaker 1: I was young, but a legal age of young. What's
Speaker 1: your weirdest sexual experience? Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's a really, that's a really.
Speaker 1: Like, it's a really what true? Columbus. We're friends now,
Speaker 1: we're all getting comfortable on this couch. We want to
Speaker 1: know the weirdest weird actual weirdest. What's weird to you
Speaker 1: may not be weird.
Speaker 2: To me, I'll be honest. So so so it's just
Speaker 2: a true story in my in my wild days, wow.
Speaker 1: Boy, let's hear it Wild days wild short it was.
Speaker 3: It was a couple of strippers that ended up becoming
Speaker 3: really good friends of mine. Actually, so I'm not going
Speaker 3: to say any.
Speaker 2: Names, but.
Speaker 3: But one the strippers women any nameless, but the main
Speaker 3: one that like initiated the whole thing. We went to
Speaker 3: her place and she was like, you know, we were
Speaker 3: about to get it cracking, and she insisted that she
Speaker 3: puts on stomp the yard.
Speaker 1: WHOA okay? And like, how weird was that for you?
Speaker 2: Super weird? Like you had to watch the whole thing,
Speaker 2: Like did she.
Speaker 1: Have a certain part that she was like, no, know,
Speaker 1: so she's done this before, but she just mastermind.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is crazy, this is this is
Speaker 2: up there?
Speaker 1: Did she tell you that she was a fan before
Speaker 1: the girls like start off that would you be like, hey.
Speaker 2: Brand new like and.
Speaker 3: And I used to be I used to yeah, I
Speaker 3: appreciate the truth, but I used to be like like
Speaker 3: the girl that would just look like that, like definitely
Speaker 3: not mess with that girl, the girl that like said.
Speaker 2: She didn't know me, Like I don't even know who
Speaker 2: you were. I'm like, oh, that's great.
Speaker 1: I believe the line.
Speaker 2: And it's a line.
Speaker 1: Doing a strip club. They're always lying to you. They
Speaker 1: tell you the truth. They want to get you all much.
Speaker 1: They want to get your dick, they want to get
Speaker 1: your something out of that club. So they can, you know,
Speaker 1: tell a story.
Speaker 3: Right, and so you know in my wild days, that
Speaker 3: was that was weird. I mean, I've had some crazy,
Speaker 3: weird moments. But you asked for one, So that's okay.
Speaker 1: We'll give us a crazy one.
Speaker 2: You get one spade.
Speaker 1: That's all I get. Like, I like, I go bigger,
Speaker 1: go home, and I'm never going home. Booty shorts or
Speaker 1: like a stringy thong one of the other booty shorts
Speaker 1: are stringy thongs like a straw string or a thong
Speaker 1: or booty shorts.
Speaker 2: Preference depends on the body. M hm.
Speaker 1: So you funk with all kinds of body types? No, No,
Speaker 1: but your your specific one apple bottom jean with.
Speaker 2: The first Yeah, I like anxiety thick thick.
Speaker 1: What is that quarantine thick from Gucci?
Speaker 2: Quarantine thick now is different like you don't want quarantine.
Speaker 1: I'm quarantine thick.
Speaker 2: You're slim thick.
Speaker 1: I guess now maybe because I work out My wife.
Speaker 2: Right now, she's slim thick.
Speaker 1: Slim thick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like them.
Speaker 1: So she's like works out but still eats some good food.
Speaker 2: So she likes Armenian. You know that they're naturally good genes.
Speaker 1: She knows what it is.
Speaker 2: I like it. Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Next one hearts it's romantic?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Would you consider yourself a romantic? No?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm?
Speaker 1: What would be your ideal romantic date?
Speaker 2: Honestly?
Speaker 1: Like on some like just bend her over and just romantic.
Speaker 3: When I say not romantic, I guess I'm not. I
Speaker 3: don't like I'm not corny, you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, not like roses like all spelled out, be like
Speaker 1: you know, like do you love me? Yes or no?
Speaker 2: Like all of that is like games, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, so, what's not your game? That's a romantic thing?
Speaker 3: I get, you know I was when I was in
Speaker 3: high school. I always tell like they're like, you got game.
Speaker 3: I'm like, my game is having no game at all, Like.
Speaker 2: I have no game.
Speaker 1: So you went that route You're like I don't have
Speaker 1: any game, like you know, like have no game.
Speaker 2: But but like I'm all into like mental, the mental,
Speaker 2: the mental.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like you're a mental fucker
Speaker 1: one of those.
Speaker 2: Not like I want to get inside your brain.
Speaker 1: No, but it's like you're more stimulated by like mine, what.
Speaker 2: Can we do? Like what like what we are? Dope?
Speaker 2: Like what's a dope? Romantic moment?
Speaker 1: It was riding on the coast, Like that's the most
Speaker 1: romantic thing you've done.
Speaker 2: No, I've done some romantic That's that's why.
Speaker 1: What is it? Asking? We want it? Like blind you
Speaker 1: say so many times I'm gonna be a lie.
Speaker 2: It's not a lie like blindfolded?
Speaker 1: What was the surprise I get?
Speaker 2: I'm going to get in trouble if I tell this
Speaker 2: story because I haven't if I tell you, I.
Speaker 1: Tell this story, oh that you haven't done it to
Speaker 1: your wife then so she's gonna be like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck you have a blindfolded me? Motherfucker? You better blindfold
Speaker 1: her for something.
Speaker 2: Room soon, you know, private jets and blindfolded.
Speaker 1: Private We're gonna help Columbs his wife blindfold into something.
Speaker 2: But I think I think, uh yeah, let's give this question.
Speaker 1: I'm the worst favorite romantic movie. Then we'll go there. Serendipity, Serendipity, Okay.
Speaker 2: Because my girl Kate, Kate, Kate, I love it.
Speaker 3: And before I Matt Kate, like we came really close,
Speaker 3: Like I love that movie John Q creating that movie,
Speaker 3: Saren Deipity and the one with Tom Hanks, and.
Speaker 2: Uh, what's it called? You got? You got mail? You
Speaker 2: know what you look like?
Speaker 1: Look like it just kind of like an a moment
Speaker 1: right now, look.
Speaker 2: Like, look like Goldie Hans daughter, Kate.
Speaker 3: What's your name Goldie Hans her daughter? Oh, Michael, Matthew mcconne.
Speaker 2: What's your name? Kate Hudson, Kate, it is Kate Hudson.
Speaker 1: You know it's funny. I get, I get, I get
Speaker 1: a plethora of people. I don't know if I've ever
Speaker 1: been told her. I was like, I get Cameron Diaz,
Speaker 1: I get Michelle Pfeiffer, I get Baby Baby Spice, I
Speaker 1: get and Mary Presley.
Speaker 3: Please comment on this. They're going to give you the
Speaker 3: feedback and trying to give you every Nobody's.
Speaker 2: Going to se it.
Speaker 1: Who knows, you know, I'm a great doppelganger for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Apparently, but you know there's only one
Speaker 1: Alex and sex talk.
Speaker 3: You know what it is.
Speaker 2: So what's your favorite? Aren't you supposed to answer?
Speaker 1: These are just you? You get to ask me a
Speaker 1: question afterwards. Okay, all right, let's go, let's go, oh Club.
Speaker 1: It's a kinky question, but we're all kinky hair. So
Speaker 1: biggest turn on?
Speaker 2: Mmm, honesty.
Speaker 1: Honesty is your biggest turn on.
Speaker 2: Real, Like, be.
Speaker 3: Authentic, like you say, were authentic, Like I don't care
Speaker 3: what you do, what your past is, what your what
Speaker 3: your story is.
Speaker 2: Just be honest about it. That's the real, Like, don't hide,
Speaker 2: don't hide.
Speaker 3: I feel like people put on masks and then so
Speaker 3: many people are mad about these dead masks, but they
Speaker 3: wear masks every day.
Speaker 1: That's why they're mad about them, because the already got
Speaker 1: one on they don't want to wear too.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, just keep it,
Speaker 2: just be wrong, be real, like shock me and you'll
Speaker 2: never shock me.
Speaker 1: I feel like at this point in our lives, like
Speaker 1: we're adults. If you can't be honest to me, then
Speaker 1: move the fuck on.
Speaker 2: I tell people run along. I prefer I prefer an ugly,
Speaker 2: ugly truth. A beautiful lie, don't don't I fuck with that.
Speaker 1: Do you own any toys?
Speaker 2: Sex toys?
Speaker 1: No, like you I don't, little cars, toys, No, we're
Speaker 1: private talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, mister Gray.
Speaker 1: Can we find handcuffs?
Speaker 2: Don't You won't find handcufs.
Speaker 1: Not blindfold because your wife doesn't have.
Speaker 2: You'll find it. You'll find a U shaped situation.
Speaker 1: Oh that like g spot things like it's.
Speaker 2: Like you'll find that. You'll find you'll find some power tools.
Speaker 1: Is it like that? Is it like just soft like silicon? Look,
Speaker 1: it's probably purple like it's like a g thing. I
Speaker 1: hate that thing. That thing does nothing for me.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. You'll find a bullet, a couple
Speaker 2: of little bullet Those are good, the bullets. Yeah, go
Speaker 2: to try it and true nice.
Speaker 1: So do you have a drawer, a shelf, a room? Like,
Speaker 1: how big does this go?
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's it's it's it's early days.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, so we'll have you back
Speaker 1: on again to see how many toys.
Speaker 3: Cool thing about she's gonna hate me for this. My
Speaker 3: me and my wife like we've been uh, it's just
Speaker 3: my g like we you know, there's.
Speaker 1: There's cool, But that's what's cool. I feel like once
Speaker 1: you find that partner is what's cool about. Like the
Speaker 1: exploring the world is your oyster, but then it's exploring
Speaker 1: part like you get to know what you like, what
Speaker 1: you don't like, what they like, whatever, and then you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: hell no, like you know what I mean, like which thing?
Speaker 1: And that's what's cool. It's a beautiful thing, is why.
Speaker 1: It's like why with porn I said, with myself, it's
Speaker 1: like I'm one person helping people orgas some time. So
Speaker 1: we're doing it.
Speaker 2: And now my wife's met me. And I was a
Speaker 2: I was a I was a male. I was a male.
Speaker 2: Poor Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I love how you're like mail, this isn't a PG show.
Speaker 1: It's six. Well you're a male horse.
Speaker 2: I was just out here, but you were.
Speaker 1: And she ate it. She just like and still you
Speaker 1: know that means she's a strong woman. That means that
Speaker 1: defy all of that stuff that y'all are destined to
Speaker 1: be together. If she overlooked everything like that, Like people
Speaker 1: have a past, that shouldn't define who you are. It's
Speaker 1: about who you are in the present and who you
Speaker 1: are in that relationship, right, last one diamonds spicy, spicy,
Speaker 1: Little Mama, what's your favorite position?
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know what's the name of this position,
Speaker 2: and it's not it's I'll tell you. You got to
Speaker 2: tell me.
Speaker 1: Let's see, this is so bad? Why is it bad?
Speaker 2: Just because you know I'm out here giving the bars
Speaker 2: Like it's okay.
Speaker 1: Everybody has sex. You were born from sex.
Speaker 2: It's like not, it's not. It's not a doggy style,
Speaker 2: but it's laid on your hip leg up.
Speaker 1: It's like a side doggie.
Speaker 2: It's a side a side doggie.
Speaker 1: I want to be like this stallion, like the crime baby.
Speaker 1: Like you're laying on the bed and you're like.
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for the old side.
Speaker 1: So you want to like hold the leg and the
Speaker 1: ass and so you're like pulling because you have more leverage.
Speaker 1: Like how I gave everybody a demonstration of like, yes,
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. Did you do this with
Speaker 1: Rita No, because I had I had like I had
Speaker 1: really like really thin guidelines of what I could say
Speaker 1: to Mom because Mom brench. She didn't want to hear
Speaker 1: anything that Mom said that was too sexual. But I
Speaker 1: did ask her some questions. If you want to read.
Speaker 1: Listen to the last second minutes of it. She'll French.
Speaker 1: She left. He was like, I want to hear any
Speaker 1: of this, and I was like, I was like, but
Speaker 1: this is what part of what Private Talk wants to
Speaker 1: hear is the truth. We want to hear your truth.
Speaker 1: We want to know all those things. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming and taking the time.
Speaker 1: Do you have any questions for me that you want
Speaker 1: to ask me? Is the last last thing? Oh, you're like,
Speaker 1: I wanted off this. Goddamn Is.
Speaker 2: It true because I heard this?
Speaker 1: Oh you heard? What did you heard that?
Speaker 2: You were like it was strict that you wouldn't do
Speaker 2: sex scenes.
Speaker 1: It wasn't strict that I have never done a scene
Speaker 1: on camera with a black man.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that a great question? Private? I gotten down at
Speaker 2: the bottom of something.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't anybody. I always opened up to
Speaker 1: everybody to ask me what you want to do. I'm
Speaker 1: an open book. I have no nothing to hide whatever.
Speaker 1: If you want to ask the question this question, no,
Speaker 1: I I mean, it wasn't something that was told me
Speaker 1: that I couldn't do it. But I have not ever
Speaker 1: done one. No, for me, it was just like a thing.
Speaker 1: At the beginning, it was like the levels of steps
Speaker 1: that you get and the way that they made it
Speaker 1: portrayed to me was really racist within its own porn
Speaker 1: thing that I didn't like how it depicted it was
Speaker 1: like fucking the white man's daughter and doing all these things.
Speaker 1: That was just like, that's just like, why can't I
Speaker 1: just fuck a beautiful black man? Why does it have
Speaker 1: to be something else? And then it was then it
Speaker 1: became now there's just forums of why I won't do it,
Speaker 1: that it became so much a thing that a control
Speaker 1: of why I wouldn't that they didn't look of like
Speaker 1: anything else. So it was just very like, you know,
Speaker 1: I keep it real from day I keep it real
Speaker 1: from day one. That's my thing. Is like why I
Speaker 1: gave you know, the platform of me of you know,
Speaker 1: with thing. It is like I have nothing to hide
Speaker 1: and people may not like my answers or what it is,
Speaker 1: but that's my truth. And you know, that's just how
Speaker 1: it is for me. I think that the porn industry
Speaker 1: is racist with it in itself and to come back
Speaker 1: and I think that it like, you know, for me,
Speaker 1: it is like I didn't want to feed into that anymore,
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't it to be just a like a
Speaker 1: sexual thing. And now you know, and the time that
Speaker 1: me that I got out of the industry is I
Speaker 1: don't shoot anymore with anybody but myself.