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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in to Full Court Press. It is Thursday.

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Sorry we were getting on the correct link, but we've

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figured it out. Two man show for a little bit today,

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but I have a special treat for you guys. So

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BP will be back tomorrow. He's got a lot of

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football content to do today, and he said, you know,

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can I skip today. We've got a lot of football

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stuff to do. I looked at the schedule and I said,

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no problem. I'm gonna go to the bullpen. I'm gonna

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call him my guy, Jordan Alexander, who is a Big

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West guru. So he'll be on fifteen twenty minutes from

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now to talk Big West basketball, Rob, which makes up

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half of the slate today nine games, but the Big

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West has decided to take center stage and play a

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full slate of conference games tonight. So that's gonna be

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great to talk about Jordan with. But before he gets here,

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I gotta welcome you in. Auburn gets it done and

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we hit the parlay last night, Rob, so coratulations to us.

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Speaker 2: The pressure was immense at once. I'm watching that Auburd

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game and the lead goes from eighty to sixty eight

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to eighty to seventy three with a minute and a

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half left. I'm like, don't tell me this is going

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to happen to us again, But no, it didn't. The

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parlay gods were with us. We cash probably puts us

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in a very good position here on the plus side,

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and you know, we were long overdue to have one

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of those go our way.

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Speaker 1: We absolutely were, And if you missed it earlier, the

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parlay gods were with us. At the end of the

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Seaton Hall Central Connecticut State game where Central Connecticut State

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hit a three, like pretty much with no time left

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to really to cover a game that they probably should

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not have had to be in that position to cover.

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I felt like it was the right bet, like if

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you watched over the course of the game. So justice

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was served, Rob We got the back door there. Auburn

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held on BP State within in the number and yes,

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you're right, four we are back in the plus plus

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four point two two. I call them units, but it's

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really like, if you were to play all these equally

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the same dollar amount, for every one dollar, you would

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be up four dollars and twenty two cents. And hey,

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that's not that bad. We're a month in and we're

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still plus in the parlays. So yeah, we're gonna try

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to do it again today. By the end of the show,

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we'll have another three team or myself, you, and then

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we will have what I'm assuming will be a play

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in the Big West from Jordan, but we're going to

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start in Campa, Florida. And Rob, you know, I've thought

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about this a couple of times. You said something on

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this show a couple of weeks ago that I've kind

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of thought about, well, that you were one hundred percent

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right about, and I've thought about multiple times since when

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we talked about Oklahoma State. We talked about Oklahoma State

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ahead of their game with South Florida, and you said

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something along the lines of, man, like this, they look

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like professionals, like this looks like a pro team at times.

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And the reason I bring that up here is that

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very much played out that way when they played South Florida,

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dropped one hundred and three points, kind of looked like

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men versus boys at times. I was unfortunately on South

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Florida plus the points in that game and it was

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the wrong side. The reason I bring all of that

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up here is South Florida hasn't covered a spread since

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and I was pretty disappointed with the Bulls in their

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mte over the weekend, really just on two occasions. I

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only bet them once. I bet them against Colorado State.

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Lost that one too, So I guess what I'm trying

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to say here is I've been wrong about the Bulls.

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Really underwhelming. Lost VCU, was never in it, totally run

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out in the second half by Colorado State, barely beat

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Western Kentucky. We're very fortunate to get to overtime and

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win that game. I was once very high on this

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Brian Hodgson Bulls team. Now I don't really know what

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to do with them. So talk to me a little bit.

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Utah State, South Florida. What do you make this team?

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What do you make of this matchup?

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Speaker 2: The matchup's pretty intriguing, Adam, And let me just start by.

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You know, I'm going to credit my buddy Derek. I

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know we all have certain sources that we can lean

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on for individual teams. But my guy Derek, I've been

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friendly with for like thirty years now, and he is

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a Stillwater guy who pushed me toward Oklahoma State, and

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he actually had to take back what he originally thought

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about Steve Lutz and I think I read that lengthy

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text here on air just to describe what he felt.

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And Oklahoma State has been good ever since. But they're

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not on the board today. It's it's South Florida that

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we're talking about a couple of things here, Adam. First

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of all, true home game right for South Florida, so

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they've only had two against very meager opponents. What I

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saw here what caught my eye. First, they have a

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strength of schedule advantage and the home floor, so immediately

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you might tilt your lean towards South Florida. However, there's

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a cop game here with VCU, and when you go

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through it, both were played on neutrals. Utah State gets

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some in Frisco, Texas. They win the game eighty to

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seventy seven over VCU shoot forty six percent from three

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limited number of attempts thirteen attempts, but they shot forty

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six percent. They committed eighteen turnovers, but they forced nineteen.

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The reason why I bring up VCU is because Phil

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Martelli's team is style wise comparable to Brian Hodgson's team.

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They're gonna try and do the same thing. South Florida

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plays VCU in Atlantis and gets whax seventy eight to

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sixty six, only shoot two to fourteen from three fourteen percent,

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only committed nine turnovers, but they only forced to eleven

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all of a sudden, they couldn't force turnovers against a

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better team. So right there, I see an edge four

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Utah State, and then I'm gonna throw this in there.

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South Florida wants up and down, they want quick pace,

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they want broken floor. I will say this about them.

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scoring points was against like teams. Against GW they scored

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ninety five. GW is a fast paced team. Against Oklahoma State,

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they score ninety five. Oklahoma State's a extreme tempo team.

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Against WKU Western Kentucky ninety one points, extreme tempo team.

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You take that away from them as an opponent, and

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their numbers dip down. Now, even against VCU, who's a

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quick team, they didn't get there. It only got the

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sixty six points. So Utah State has that going for them.

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for this crazy two to three matchup zone, which you

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can throw in there and muck things up a little

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bit against a team like South Florida. It's kind of

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a reason why I brought up their three point shooting

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against VCU. They're not a good three point shooting team.

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not a horrendous defensive rebounding team by any stretch, grab

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some defensive rebounds, get out on offense, come back on defense,

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and set up a zone and maybe throw South Florida

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out of whack. I was a little surprised. I guess

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I shouldn't be surprised because the first thing I said

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here generally will tilt the scales where bets are concerned

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South Florida at home, strength of schedule edge. Everybody will

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point to that, But I think when you get down

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to the basics the fundamentals of this game, Utah State's

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the better team. Maybe they haven't been you know, maybe

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their quality of opponent hasn't been as good, but they've

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beaten everybody. They're seven to zero and the one team

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that both teams have played so far, Utah State was

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able to win on a neutral and the other side wasn't.

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score inside, they score outside, their veteran, Like I say,

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they've got two flamethrowers that can shoot it from three

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more of a work in progress Utahs States, maybe more

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of a finished product here. I don't know that the

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road bothers UTAs State as much, and I certainly don't

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know if South Florida has yet created an environment that

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intimidates opponents coming in. So for me, it would probably

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be UTA's state here. Adam total wise one sixty two

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and a half. I guess, you know, first inclination is

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to look over. But when I go through those results

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of what South Florida has been able to do against

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moderate tempo teams, I'm not so sure that they can

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keep up with UTA State here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talked about shot selection for a second,

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and that's that's been I guess my sort of biggest

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concern watching South Florida. Like you talk about Brian Hodgson

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being a NATOATES disciple, like Naoates two point zero and

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something Natoates has done. I mean, he'll go if you

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take a bat, if you take the shot that he

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doesn't want, like, he'll lose his night he's probably like

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Bobby Knight locking kids in closets or something. You know,

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he freaks out like he's got like if you play

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for NATO's, it's got to be like they've got the

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freedom to like get to the rim and shoot whenever

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they want to shoot, but it has to be the

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shot that he wants. It's got to be a three,

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or it's got to be like something like pretty much

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at the rim. And what I really noticed with South Florida,

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especially in that MTE and the Bahamas, I felt like

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a a lot of just like very difficult. They're just

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not getting the open looks. Even the stuff at the

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rim seems to be contested in a lot of cases.

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you're gonna play that style and you are going to

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take a lot of threes, you got to make some

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of them or that's not a great style to play.

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nationally in three point shooting is just not going to

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cut it with this style of play. The big thing

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sort of kind of go back to the drawing board

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on South Florida was that Colorado State game should have

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been a layup, cupcake win for them, because if you

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think of this was third game in three days for

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Colorado State, as it was for South Florida, but the

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way that South Florida plays, they should have had a

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huge edge playing third game in three days against a

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team that was a little bit worn down. What happened

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in that game, rob was they lost the kid from

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Marist that transa Pascarelli. There was two guys on the

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perimeter that they just lost and just absolutely eviscerated them

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from three. He was open every single time he touched

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the ball. He made every single shot he took, and

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suddenly they were just down twenty. It was like in

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the blink of an eye, they didn't know what happened.

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They were down twenty. Utah State can do that to teams.

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at their best, that's what they are doing the teams

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right like they It seems like every time I watch

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Utah State play, they have a stretch where they hit

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five threes in a row on like five straight possessions,

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and the gate the two lane game comes to mind.

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week before Feast week early game, and it was like

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they struggled for twenty minutes and then they had seven

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straight possessions where they scored on all seven possessions and

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hit a three on every one, and suddenly it was

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a fifteen point game, twenty three in the country. Three

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point shooting. This Utah State team. That is my fear

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here and ultimately why I don't think. I think I'm

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gonna not be stubborn for a change. Like as bad

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as I feel like pot committed to South Florida, having

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played them a couple of times and lost with them,

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I'm trying to be realistic and say to myself, you

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know what, maybe I was just a little bit off

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on this team. This might not be the best matchup

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for them. So I see some of the chats saying, hey,

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like you kind of feels like a bargain on Utah State.

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My number suggests that a pick that might be the case.

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You know that Utah States just a better team that

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can attack South Florida, and Rob, you talked about a

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home game. Now, one thing South Florida does have is

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a great arena DJ, So give them a point on

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the home court handicapped. They've got a great arena DJ

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up on a perch. I love when the schools have

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like an arena DJ hype guy that they like. You know,

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some of the newer arenas actually set up a DJ

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stand for them. They've got that down there in Tampa.

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and And just to simplify it, is that the things

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that South Florida, the things that Brian Hodgson wants them

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to do well, they're just not doing well at this

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point in time when the competition gets elevated. So a

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little bit of a work in progress on that side.

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Utah State generally doesn't flinch even in road games. And

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it's interesting you brought up Colorado State too, because it's

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another Mountain West that's you know, with with good coaching.

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So we'll see. But the flamethrowers are there for Utah State. MJ.

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Collins I think is like forty seven from three, so

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they can hit them. All right.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna move along to another one of the seven

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PM seven pm tips. Doug, thank you for the donation,

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very much appreciated. He says, thank you for the parla

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w Thank you, Doug. We needed that one and we

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got it done. Hopefully we get it done again today.

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Doug wants to go over to the Horizon. He wants

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to talk about He says, appreciate the in depth analysis

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you bring every single day. Any insights on Robert Morris

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at Green Bay, Well, Doug, I happen to have a

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couple here and so we'll you know, I want to

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talk about Doug Gottlieb for a second, because Doug Gottlieb

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got a lot of heat for how year one went,

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and rightfully so Rob. It was a sort of an

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unmitigated disaster for Gottlieb in Green Bay in his first year.

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I think that he bit off a little bit more

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than he could chew, sort of like just being thrust

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into the head coaching ranks, having to build a team

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sort of from scratch and thinking, and then of course

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the expectations, not even the expectations, but like the vast

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majority of people wanting you to fail, because I think

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there's a lot of folks that don't really care for Gottlieb.

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I think that just turned into a very tough year

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zero type scenario for him. But I think Gottlieb learned

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a lot from year one. I think this particular Green

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Bay team, I've said it a couple of times, is

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better than last year's And like, listen, like players get

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the benefit of the doubt in their first year, being

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able to develop from year one to year two, sometimes

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you got to give a coach that benefit of the doubt, right, Like,

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I think he learned from his mistakes last year and

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he's starting to fix them this year.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: On the other side of the coin, here, Robert Morris

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goes to the NCAA tournament. They lose most of that

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tournament team. Of course, Vulgaris was one of the best

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players in this conference last year. He's now Iowa. But

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you know who's a really really good coach. That's Andy Toole,

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who I almost think like doesn't even really matter what

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compliment of players he gets. Like last year's Robert Morris

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team was not supposed to be an good and he

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had them playing great ball. I kind of feel like

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they were undervalued in the market as well this year

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again for that reason. It's like He got that Robert

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Morris team to play so good that they went to

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the NCAA tournament hung with Alabama for forty minutes. So

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why would he not be able to do the same

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this year in a Horizon league that has no clear favorite,

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very intriguing matchup. I gotta be honest. My number was

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Morris minus one. It looks like it's minus one and

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a half minus won some places open pick tough, tough

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handicap for me here, talk to me about Robert Morris

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Green Bay. Can you give any insight to Doug.

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I think it depends what side of the fence you

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want to stand on. Right do you consider the wins

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against Frank Martin's UMass team and a good IONA team.

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Do you think that's a sign of turning the corner

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for UWGB. If you do, then you probably want to

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be on them here against Robert Morris, both teams are

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kind of similar at him in style of play. It's

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not going to be an up and down game. It's

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going to be a lower scoring game, defensive minded. I

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think when you go through the numbers, the analytics, etc. Etc.

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You'll come out with Robert Morris being the slightly better team.

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Neither team is lighting it up as of now, but

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I you know, to boil it down to its simplest form,

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it really is a question of whether or not. And

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you said you think Gottlieb has learned some things in

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year two. All of a sudden, they've scored some points.

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They really weren't scoring any points early on, but seventy

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nine against UMass, eighty against Iona, and again the IONA

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win is impressive. I mean, for where Wisconsin Green Bay

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was and Robert Morris, I would not consider a better

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team than IONA. You go to a nutrient, you beat Iona,

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so it's I don't know. Again, I would say, if

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you're going to play this game on an overall statistical basis,

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the analytics basis, you're probably coming up with Robert Morris,

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if you're projecting ahead and you're trying to beat the

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curve here with UWGB. Because of their last couple results,

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which again you know, for the way they were playing

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a pretty presson and let's not sell them short, Adam,

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because I'm only talking about their wins, right, but they

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pushed Minnesota to ot We saw Minnesota beat Indiana last night.

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They played Yale to six points, Yale's as good as

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it gets in the IVY, and that's kind of like

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four consecutive really really good performances out of this team.

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I guess as I talk through this thing myself with

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my notes here, I think I would probably lean that

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way green Bay at home. It does look like something's

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been found, and some of this has been done without

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Marcus Hall, right, who might be their best player. I

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don't know the status. I tried to look up the

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status for tonight. I could not find it. Maybe we

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can update folks watching here as we go on through

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the show, But I do think Green Bay, you know,

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when you're doing this without your best guy, that's a

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pretty good sign right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just for the sake of giving a

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play here, I think I have to lean green Bay

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because I don't think I don't think their priors are

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as much of an accurate representation of what they are

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this year as Robert Morris's, which I think it's like, yes,

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Andy Toole is a great coach, but it is very

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possible that he doesn't overachieve back to back years. I mean,

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you look at a couple of you know, like Vulgarris

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ended up being like a All Conference. I mean, he

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ended up with one of the best players in the

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league who's now at Iowa. There's no there's nothing that

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says he catches a guy like that again this year

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and sort of like way over achieves again. You know,

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you talk about good results that didn't turn into wins

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for green Bay. How about the Buffalo game. Green Bay

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was right in that one too. Buffalo's hating up the Bulls.

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I may have to I don't know if Mallory will

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allow it, but if I can get out of the house,

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I may go down to I may have to get

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to Alumni Arena this weekend for Saint Bonaventure Buffalo, probably

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the biggest home game they've had in four or five years,

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on the heels of me being out very late after

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the Syracuse game on Tuesday, and I don't know if

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that's gonna happen, but if you can get there, that's

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a good one on Saturday. The point is one more

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point I'll make about home court here, and one thing

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I love that Gottlee did. He moved all the home

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games to campus. So Green Bay for a long time

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played at the Resh Center, which is like their big

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sort of downtown arena. Probably ten thousand seed Arena, and

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Gottlee last year was like, we don't fill this place.

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Maybe maybe down the road, like we'll be back to

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the point where we can justify playing like a game here.

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But he's like, right now, we're just we're rebuilding. There's

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not enough fan interest. He's like, the one thing that

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his players said last year, more games on campus, more

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games at Cress Event Center, which is a small camp

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facility they have, which is where this game will be tonight.

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So I think that bumps green Bay's sort of home

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court edge up as well. Now you're talking about I

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think they're catching a point and a half here as well. Listen,

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I think if this gets to two, I think green

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Bay is a pretty reasonable bet at two. Don't know

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if it'll make my card, but I could. I couldn't

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really fault you for for taking green Bay at two.

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Right here, Okay, I want to go to rob. I

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don't know if you caught this, but the the Maac,

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the Mac, my Mac, Sianna's Mac has hired a marketing

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consultant to change the name of the conference. They finally

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decided that after forty years they were sick of people saying.

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Speaker 2: Mac or the other MAC or like.

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Speaker 1: So they literally have hired they have hired someone to

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come up with a rebrand of the conference. It only

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took forty years. It's only been going on since the

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late eighties, I think was the inception of the Metro

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Atlantic Athletic Conference. And finally in twenty twenty five they said,

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you know what, We're sick of being clowned every time

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we get on sports on our top ten and one

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of the anchors makes a joke about it, So we

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are going to change the name of the league. As

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of right now, it is still the MAC the MAAC

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and we've got some conference play tonight up in I

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think Merrimack is somewhere in the north shore of northern

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part of Massachusetts. They're new to the league. That's the

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one that's one of the only MAC venues I've yet

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to get to in my lifetime because they just came

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into the league last year and they've taken some money today,

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not really surprising to me riders in a world of

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just I believe the university is one hundred and thirty

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million in debt right now. You know it's I'm wearing

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the Saint Francis University ZIP upright here that I grabbed

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when I was Actually this was a gift from them

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one of the only places I've been they were really

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nice to me. They actually gave this to me as

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a gift. And the reason I bring them up is

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they are in their final year of Division one, and

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if you were to press me for the team that

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might be next to have to drop out of D one,

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it would probably be Rider because I believe they are

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in significant debt as a university, and I got to

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imagine that if they're losing money on athletics, that that

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sports might be the next thing to go. They're kind

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of a disaster. I think this might be the worst

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team in the MAC this year. They have a couple

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of good guards that can play, but outside of that,

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they don't have much of Joe Gallo Merrimack very good coach.

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He's gonna you know, he might not have the horses

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he had last year, but that guy knows had a

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game plan for a backcourt. So do you agree with

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that move Merrimack up from seven and a half to

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nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you have to add him on a

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couple of bass. I mean, you talked a little bit

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about Riders in aptitude. Now, I don't think we can

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hold against them. The blowout losses that they've suffered because

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they took on really good competition. I don't know if

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those are you know, probably paydays in one way, shape

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or form to try and get some money. But getting

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blown out by Auburn, getting blown out by Florida, et cetera,

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et cetera, not that big of a deal. But or

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excuse me, getting blown out by Houston and Texas. The

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problem with them is they can't score. And Merrimack's a

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pretty good defensive team by max standards, and so you

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wonder how Riders going to score points. You go up

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and down the results this year, they haven't really been

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able to score. Beat straight up by Coppin State. That's

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not good either. What you run into here with Merrimack

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is they're not this high scoring team either. So it's

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the dilemma in any type of team sport handicapping, when

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you have good defense against poor offense and you want

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to play the good defense, can they score enough to

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get you the cover? Can and they create enough separation.

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There's no real proof of that with Merrimack yet, but

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there is proof of Rider having that we're gonna get

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blown out potential because they've done it so often now,

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I would think you have to play Merrimack here. They

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just look like they're the team that's in better shape

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at this point in time. Until we see a little

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more scoring out of Rider, it really wouldn't matter where

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the game is played. At a Gallo to your point,

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I kind of like Gallo tell you the truth. I mean,

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he took this team from Grasshoots, you know what I mean.

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It's you walk in. Merrimack's a new program and they've

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they've been honestly, they've been relevant in their league for

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a couple of years now. So I can understand the

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line move. It's not on my card because I just

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don't you have to win by ten here. It's not

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that they can't, And I think it's more more toward

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Rider can lose by ten, you know what I mean,

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You're playing a favorite because you know the underdog's k

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of losing by this number. Merrimcks capable of shutting them down.

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Maybe a Rider team total under in this particular case,

476
00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:10,200
slow paced game, good defense, bad offense. That could be

477
00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:11,319
a way to look at it as well.

478
00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to talk about Ryder not being able

479
00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:17,759
to score they have. They have a couple of guards

480
00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:22,400
that are pretty talented individual players. Zion Cruz Flashburton are

481
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,799
both pretty good individual players. I think if you took

482
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,319
them off of this team and put them somewhere else

483
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,440
that they're probably pretty good. But they have not been

484
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,480
able to do it with no help this year, and

485
00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:35,880
that's essentially what they've been asked to do. Cruz shooting

486
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,759
thirty three point three percent from the field, for In

487
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,680
thirty seven point five percent from the field. Both are

488
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,200
under thirty. You've got twenty seven point three percent and

489
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,680
twenty four point one percent respectively from three. That's not

490
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,799
very good. No one, no one else scores. And you

491
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,480
want to talk about some of the points per game,

492
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:58,160
sixty one point two that's three hundred and sixtieth nationally.

493
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:01,559
Field goal percentage thirty five percent. They get nothing, they

494
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,960
get nothing easy. There's no easy points for Rider, and

495
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,079
you know what, there's no easy points against Joe Gallo.

496
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,880
Usually to your point, like he is, he tends to

497
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,240
have defenses that are very tough to score on. Three

498
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,319
hundred and sixty fifth, that's dead last in the country.

499
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,839
Field goal percentage three hundred and sixty fifth from three

500
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,279
that's dead last in the country. Three hundred and sixty

501
00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:24,799
fourth in assists. That's the I don't know who's worse,

502
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,480
someone's worse, but you know it's it's just to turnover

503
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:32,880
ratio three hundred and sixty second. They turn the ball

504
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,599
over fourteen to seven point seven point times a game.

505
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,720
That's one of the worst marks in the country. Now,

506
00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:40,519
you could make the argument, well, those numbers are gonna

507
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:42,400
get a little bit better at some point because they

508
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,720
played Texas, Houston, Rutgers, and Virginia. Yeah, you're probably right

509
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:50,279
about that. Those will likely improve as we go through MacPlay.

510
00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:52,160
Doesn't mean they're still not going to be the worst

511
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,200
in the MAC League. Even if they do improve on that,

512
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,000
they're probably still the worst team in this league. I

513
00:26:57,079 --> 00:26:59,200
think if you had meror Mack at minus seven and

514
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:03,359
a half, you probably feel pretty good Right now. At nine,

515
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,839
I like it less, but you would not catch me

516
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,519
with a cent on rider here. Just I think they

517
00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:12,319
might be like it might be the worst team they've

518
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:14,839
had in the history of this school, and like the

519
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,920
coach is like trying to take some of his own

520
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,000
money to pay people in the department, so he doesn't

521
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,960
lose Jay. It's a mess, like an absolute mess right

522
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,079
now for that school. And we see could see that

523
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,519
play out on the court this season, all right, Rob Jordan's.

524
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: For those who are maybe interested, that team total on

525
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,720
Ryder is sixty two and a half. Sixty two and

526
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:39,519
a half. They've only gotten there a couple of times

527
00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:41,960
this season. I know they've played really good competition in

528
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,960
certain instances, but it's a lot of points in a

529
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,240
game where the pace is going to be really really slow.

530
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:52,200
It's a conference opener, you know. Writer, a team total

531
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:53,559
under could be a way to look here.

532
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want to talk about like that if

533
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,079
you think that's low, Like those are the types of

534
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,880
games that Merrimunt typically plays, like you want to you

535
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,319
want to look at like Merrimack this year, I mean

536
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,759
in competitive type games seventy two to sixty five against Maine,

537
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,079
sixty six sixty against Lesal, seventy seven to sixty five

538
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,079
against Penn, which is actually kind of low scoring on

539
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,680
for pen terms, right like they you know, so that's

540
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:25,559
like the type of games that they typically want to play.

541
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,480
Opening they you know, I believe they opened with say

542
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,920
South Dakota State seventy five sixty six, like they want

543
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,319
to play in the sixties. So you talk about like

544
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,559
if they can dictate tempo and Ryder can't score very well,

545
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,240
might be like first to sixty what you could see

546
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,079
a sixty three fifty one type game here, right and

547
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440
and not come close to that team total. It's a

548
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,119
great point on that one, Rob. We will have Jordan

549
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:52,039
joining us in a couple of minutes. What I will

550
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,519
say is heading over to site, check out the specials

551
00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:57,480
full full court package that we have up. I'll get

552
00:28:57,519 --> 00:29:00,200
you all of the plays for your chosen handicap for

553
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,920
I think three days. We'll have the weekend package. It's

554
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,720
live right now. I believe that's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, So

555
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:08,440
does it help you for today? But that will be

556
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:10,920
up for the weekend and then you know, as always

557
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,880
great deals on the wager Talk site. I may play.

558
00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:16,200
I will likely have football up throughout the day today.

559
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,200
Haven't played any college hoop yet, but there's a couple

560
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,480
I have my eye on this short slate, So one

561
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:25,720
more non Big West game to get to and then

562
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,640
we're gonna get Jordan Alexander in here to rattle off

563
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,000
the five Big West games that are on the slate tonight,

564
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,839
this one, I have very little interesting. All I'll say

565
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:39,519
about this one is I said at some point earlier

566
00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:42,480
this season that I think the Citadel is going to

567
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,640
be one of the worst teams. If not, well, they'll

568
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,680
be the worst team in their conference. I went as

569
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,559
far as to say they're a bottom ten team in

570
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,480
college basketball this year, and I'm not going to retract

571
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:59,839
that statement. I know they have two wins, both non board,

572
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,319
but when you talk about like you can't even be

573
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:09,079
competitive with Presbyterian, like you know you're you're getting crushed

574
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,440
by Bellerman, You're giving up one hundred points to West Georgia.

575
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,359
Speaker 2: Not good.

576
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: Gonna be a long season in my opinion for the Citadel.

577
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:24,319
They go on the road here rob to Davidson, big

578
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,559
number in my opinion that kind of came out on

579
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,599
the number, but Davidson played in that MT. I believe

580
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,079
they played Boston College. Utah State sort of a little

581
00:30:35,079 --> 00:30:36,839
bit of a get right spot for them last time

582
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,839
out against North Carolina A and T. One thing Davidson

583
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,839
will do is make shots. And if they're making shots,

584
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,319
I don't know if I'd want to be against them here.

585
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, and because the other team can't stop you from

586
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:51,440
making shots. Right, you just rattled up some hideous numbers

587
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,799
for Riyer, and you could do the same with the

588
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,160
defensive numbers posted by Citadels so far three hundred and

589
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,119
sixty five in the nation in defensive efficiency adjust a

590
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,359
defensive efficiency that's the worst in the country, guys, and

591
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,160
Davidson can shoot it a little to your point, Adam

592
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,119
Good from three, Good from two. They're the seventeenth best

593
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,440
percentage shooting team from beyond the arc. They're the fiftieth

594
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:19,079
best percentage shooting team from inside the arc. It's why

595
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:21,759
they're a twenty point favorite here. The problem with Davidson

596
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:26,720
is there's no real tempo to them. They're very methodical.

597
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,839
In fact, they're probably below methodical in their pace. And

598
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,000
to create twenty two points worth of separation when the

599
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:37,000
possessions are limited, it makes you think twice. Not that

600
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:39,039
they can't get there with a cover, but it does

601
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,799
make you think twice about whether or not they can

602
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,599
get to that type of separation here. You have to

603
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,599
be really good on the defensive end if you're Davidson,

604
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,200
in order to cover this number against Citadel, which you

605
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,039
not only don't they stop anybody from making shots at them,

606
00:31:57,119 --> 00:31:59,880
but they don't necessarily make shots either. The one good

607
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,960
thing when you go up and down their analytics that

608
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:05,799
you can say about the Citadel is they don't necessarily

609
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,799
turn it over, so they're not going to cost themselves possessions,

610
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,240
especially in a slow game where it's played in the

611
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:15,160
half court. But you know, it's one thing to pass

612
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,160
it around five times and get a good shot. It's

613
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,079
another thing to pass it around five times and miss

614
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,480
the shot. Let the other team go out and make

615
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:23,880
a shot. So it's the dilemma you're up against here.

616
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,119
Davidson's clearly the better side in this game. Are they

617
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,599
twenty two points better? We always refer to the to

618
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,119
the number as being the great equalizer. I think the

619
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,319
folks who got in on under one forty three as

620
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,880
the opener were the smart people here. It's hard to

621
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,759
see Citadel getting beyond the sixty mark. And if Davidson

622
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:47,640
were to cut, you know, for Davidson to get to

623
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,200
eighty it maybe a little rough here too, but eighty

624
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:52,359
to sixty would have won that bet, would win that

625
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,440
bet for you. Now the number is down to one

626
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:56,680
thirty nine and a half, it no longer wins that

627
00:32:56,839 --> 00:33:00,720
bet for you. There still may be wiggle room into

628
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:05,079
total going under, But as much as Davidson is better

629
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,279
than this side, and as much as the matchup fits

630
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,799
them hand in glove, it's hard to lay that type

631
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:12,720
of number with a team that's just not going to

632
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:18,000
create excess possessions. So I probably leave it alone and congratulate,

633
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:20,880
you know, the folks holding the closing line value right now.

634
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree with the move toward the under

635
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,519
for you know, by us in the chat saying Citadel's

636
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,240
also three hundred and fifty fifth nationally, which is one

637
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:37,880
of the bottom ten mark possessions per game, so small pace,

638
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,759
lack of scoring and assuming it gets ugly, which is

639
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:45,559
what a twenty point spread would would suggest, zero extension

640
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:48,359
at the end of the game most likely, Yeah, it would.

641
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,319
I mean it would take probably take Davidson just going

642
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,519
totally crazy to put this one over. Now. They've done

643
00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:59,920
it at points in time this year. But they were

644
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,359
also a team I kind of had circled for a

645
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,400
little bit of shooting regression which started to sort of

646
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,000
come in the MT. I got a little fortunate I

647
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:11,360
cashed with them against Boston College, but they didn't shoot

648
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,360
it particularly well. And then I want to say the

649
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,000
next night they couldn't hit anything against Utah State. So

650
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,639
I mean, if Davidson's a little bit off shooting the ball,

651
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,280
like even even after that move, you're probably golden on

652
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,320
the under right there, probably gonna hit that easily. As

653
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,239
far as the spread, my number here was twenty one

654
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,840
and a half, so not enough, not enough wiggle room

655
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,639
to get me to Davidson and just no shot. I'm

656
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,840
touching Citadel kind of a kind of a rider esque

657
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,440
team where I'd rather just pass.

658
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: And sometimes, Adam, the way to talk about the way

659
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,400
to look at these games, and we don't talk about

660
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,360
it quite quite enough, but is to just cut the

661
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,039
game in half, shorten it and play Davidson first half.

662
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,920
But the odds maker is right there taking it away

663
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,079
from you, right, twelve and a half for the first half,

664
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:02,760
twenty and a half for the game, or twenty one

665
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,039
for the game. So could I see thirty seven twenty

666
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:09,559
four Davidson at halftime and Davidson cashing a ticket absolutely

667
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:12,039
that would also land you on under sixty six and

668
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:13,800
a half for the first half as far as total

669
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,519
is concerned. But they've definitely made you. You know, there's

670
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:20,199
not a lot of I like to use the phrase

671
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:22,000
wiggle room. There's not a lot of wiggle room in

672
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:23,519
lane twelve and a half in first half.

673
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: All right, we should have Jordan up here in a second.

674
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,119
We'll start without him though, and he can jump in

675
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:32,760
what I will throw it to you, Rob, Do you

676
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,920
have anything to promote for today or for the upcoming weekend?

677
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:39,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me go ahead and promote here real quick.

678
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:43,119
And the NFL season has been tremendous to me amongst

679
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:46,239
the wager talk candycappers. I think I rank either second

680
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,119
or third right now on the season, so it's been

681
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:50,639
really good. We have a Thursday night football play tonight.

682
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,639
It'll be up and available this morning after we've conclude

683
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,599
this show here. And then as far as the look

684
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:02,599
ahead to Friday Saturday, the college football Championship game is

685
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:05,280
gonna have three to four plays there as well in

686
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,800
college football, so you want to be on the lookout

687
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,679
for that. However, this is a college hoop show, so

688
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,639
let me just promote the comeback last night, which was

689
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,800
a three and oh spotless board and the gods were

690
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,639
with me too, Adam. Last night, LSU team total over

691
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,519
seventy seven and a half. Not only did I need overtime,

692
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,360
but I needed and they made free throws. I mean

693
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:28,320
ls you walked up to the line and knocked them

694
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,840
all down to seventy eight for the cover there, so

695
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,639
that was good. We'll have College Hoop NBA as well.

696
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,519
Also just a shameless plug here for those who watched

697
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:42,039
wager Talk TV, A bunch of shows all day long.

698
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:44,159
We started off at ten am. But also you can

699
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,760
catch me with Ski Profit. We do an NBA show

700
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,159
and mixing some NFL when appropriate. Thursday Friday, I think

701
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:53,599
we do that, but it's one forty five Eastern time,

702
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:55,480
ten forty five ONUE Pacific. Coach. You can catch me

703
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:58,639
on profit picks with Ski Profits. So yeah, a lot

704
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:02,159
of stuff going on at wager tim as we overlap

705
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:02,880
seasons here.

706
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:06,599
Speaker 1: Sadly, I'm well aware of what happened in the LSU

707
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,000
Boston College game. I had Boston College plus seven and

708
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:12,920
a half, so that'll go into the pile of horrific

709
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:15,960
beats for the season. Maybe are arguably the worst. I'll

710
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,119
die on the Hill, Rob that I feel like I

711
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:20,519
should be paid for that, Like that should be a win.

712
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,679
There is no scenario where like if you have a

713
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,440
seven and a half point dog and that game goes

714
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,679
into overtime, that should not be a loss. I'm sorry,

715
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,920
Like that's crazy. Need to change that rule, I don't know,

716
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,039
I wish. Unfortunately Rob Manfred is not in charge of

717
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:37,079
like betting sports, because you know, we'd probably get the

718
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:40,400
rule change at this point. But yeah, that's that's craziness.

719
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,239
I still went two and two, so a split for me,

720
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,280
but ruined what would have been what should have been,

721
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,800
in my opinion, a winning game.

722
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: You no real quick, adam. You know how in baseball

723
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,599
you can bet action or listed starter. I think to

724
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,800
your point, maybe there could be a bet addition to

725
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,039
the betting board where you bet regulation or full game,

726
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,599
and this way regulation if you have the dog, the

727
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:10,760
underdog can't go to overtime and die, you can cash

728
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,400
that ticket.

729
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:15,199
Speaker 1: Yeah right, like in a lot of cases, like I

730
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,440
may even take the slightly worse line, you know what

731
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,760
I mean, Like the it's just it's crazy. I don't

732
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,320
even know what I'm not going to like go off

733
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,599
on like a total rant about it. It's It's just crazy.

734
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,840
It is absolute craziness that my Boston College plus uh

735
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,079
plus seven and a half did not win. I'm sorry,

736
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:39,519
I need that that's rant over, but that's that cost me,

737
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,199
the that that turned three and one uh into two

738
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,199
and two for me. Uh. Jordan's actually logging in right now.

739
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,239
But I'll I'll kick we'll, we'll hit him on the

740
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,360
way back from this one, because I want to go

741
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,239
to you first for this one. Anyway, Rob, this is

742
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,880
a team I want to start Big West Thursday conversation

743
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,559
off with with you. See Santa Barbara.

744
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,039
Speaker 3: Uh.

745
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: They are at home against Long Beach State. Here. They

746
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,320
are laying a healthy twelve and a half. That's up

747
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,719
from I think open at eleven and a half. And Rob,

748
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,760
this was a team that you were very, very excited

749
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,239
about coming into the season. Rightfully, So the roster is insane.

750
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,880
The talent on this team is ridiculous for this conference,

751
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,000
and they have not looked great so far this year.

752
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,360
And I've kind of gone back and I may be

753
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,880
being a little bit harsh here, but I'm almost getting

754
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,320
to the point where I'm willing to say that, like

755
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:35,800
Passernak might just not be a great coach. Because this

756
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,000
wouldn't be the first time that he has squandered some talent.

757
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:42,599
So uh but before we before we go to Rob

758
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:45,559
on this, I want to introduce our friend Jordan Alexander.

759
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:47,480
Can you Jordan, can you hear us right now? Are

760
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:48,400
you logged in? Okay?

761
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:50,639
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you hear me?

762
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: We can, Yeah, we can, we can hear you. Great,

763
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,400
Thank you so much for joining us. So let me

764
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,559
introduce Jordan. He is a he's out on the West coast.

765
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,880
Last week when I said, you know, there was a

766
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,920
guy that had me on to you see San Diego

767
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:08,119
way way ahead of the curve last year, that was Jordan.

768
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,400
And so the fact that we can bring him in

769
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:12,800
here to talk Big West two, which is which I

770
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,840
refer to as your conference, that's your league, is awesome.

771
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,760
So thanks for taking the time to jump on with us.

772
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:23,519
I'm gonna let Rob say his piece on a you

773
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:26,519
See Santa Barbara team that he really liked coming into

774
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:29,039
this season, and then we'll go to you, Jordan. That's

775
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:31,760
the game we're talking about, Long Beach State, you see

776
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,000
Santa Barbara, Big West Conference? Play Rob, what are we

777
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:34,559
looking at here?

778
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,199
Speaker 2: Yeah?

779
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: You know?

780
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: And it's funny Adam because you see Santa Barbara I like,

781
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:43,039
but I didn't start the handicap with them. I start

782
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:45,719
the handicap with the negatives. I feel about Long Beach

783
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,280
State nowadays. It's just a different persona with this team

784
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,440
since they've changed head coaches. It's not the up and

785
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:54,079
down basketball that we're used to with Long Beach State

786
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,960
and try to outscore you. It's a totally different, totally

787
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,599
different style. I give them a little bit of credit

788
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,760
for the late rally against San Diego the other day,

789
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,039
because they really San Diego had that team wired, and

790
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:07,960
then at the end of the game, Long Beach State

791
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:10,239
came from nowhere to win that contest seventy six to

792
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,360
seventy two. But their list of results this season just

793
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,079
aren't good whatsoever out of Long Beach So, you know,

794
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:18,000
a lot of times it's hard to tell. And I

795
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:21,039
was watching the broadcasts last night. I forget which one

796
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:24,000
it was conference game. Maybe it was Indiana Minnesota because

797
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:26,599
Nico medbed came up with a win, right Nico medveed

798
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:29,440
and Minnesota had done nothing impressive all season long, and

799
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,840
then they go out at home in conference playing beat Indiana.

800
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:35,760
Some of these coaches and maybe Pastornick falls in this

801
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:41,239
category this season, are just using the seven eight games

802
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,440
prior six to eight games prior to get the team

803
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,679
around them in the shape for conference season. We'll find

804
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,719
out tonight, because I would think that they're certainly better

805
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,599
than what the points spread indicates over Long Beach State

806
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:55,920
here in this one, so I'll hold back and see

807
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,360
the result. But I think if I was going to

808
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,800
play UCSB, it would be totally and not totally, but

809
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,760
it would be mostly on a fade of Long Beach

810
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,599
because I don't see anything out of them that I

811
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,320
like in particular at this point in time. And as

812
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,400
you mentioned, the UCSB roster is loaded and just on paper,

813
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,679
you would think that if they come to play, they're

814
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,679
supposed to be the right side here. It's the way

815
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,920
I would look if I had to play it. I

816
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,360
haven't played as of yet. Still early morning here. We

817
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,119
may see some numbers move in this one. But for me, again,

818
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,079
I'll just repeat that I think it's more fade of

819
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:33,199
Long Beach State than it is a total cell job

820
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,960
on UCSB at this point in time, But they may

821
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,519
have been just working some kinks out heading into conference season.

822
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan, go ahead, Long Beach State, Santa Barbara, You

823
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:49,440
and I kind of texted back and forth about Pasternak

824
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:53,000
maybe not maybe not being the best coach, and I

825
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,480
kind of went and looked at his Ken Pom coaching rating.

826
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,440
Seems to underachieve in that regard. So do you think

827
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,400
that's the them here?

828
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:04,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I agree with Rob. Like coming

829
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:07,519
into the year, Uh, you know, UCSB, in my opinion,

830
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:09,440
was the most talented team in the Big West, top

831
00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:13,400
bottom on paper. Right, But every single year, you see

832
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,679
Santa Barbara tends to have the best roster on paper

833
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,440
with Joe Pasternak always achieved, you know, except for a

834
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:21,199
couple of years.

835
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,199
Speaker 1: And this year he's got a lot of last year too.

836
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,039
Speaker 3: He has a lot of talented guards, a lot of veterors, right,

837
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:30,079
same thing with this year. They get it off to

838
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:33,079
a very slow start. They still don't play very much defense.

839
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:36,159
They really rely on teams just missing. Uh you know,

840
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,239
that's how it happened in the Seattle game. Seattle just

841
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,960
didn't shoot well. You know, they had a lot of

842
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,360
good looks, didn't shoot well. Then you see Santa Barbara,

843
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,920
they do shoot well. They're always gonna shoot well. That's

844
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,519
one thing you can count on what you see Santa Barbara.

845
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:49,440
They're gonna score points. The one thing with with Long

846
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,159
Beach State here, you know Chris Acker, you know he

847
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,599
comes under Brian Dutcher. He likes to play slow, defensive basketball.

848
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:58,760
He obviously doesn't really have the talent that San Diego

849
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,679
State has where he'll never have it at Long Beach State.

850
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,920
One thing Dan Monson did really well at Long Beach

851
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,320
State is he really recruited Southern California kids that really

852
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:10,639
under the radar, and there's a lot of basketball players

853
00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:13,119
out there that he could that he needs to tap

854
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:16,159
into in my opinion, but you know, Long Beach State,

855
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,920
they're gonn try and slow the game. They're gonna my possessions.

856
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:22,480
I think twelve and a half's a lot of points

857
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:24,599
for a team that doesn't play defense in my opinion.

858
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:27,920
But this is a player for me because I agree

859
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,559
with Rob like I do think I could see a

860
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:32,400
scenario where Long Oh sorry, I don't know if I

861
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,719
can test, but I do see a scenario where you

862
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,280
see barbage out of water because Long Beach can't score,

863
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,840
they can't score very well.

864
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so my numbers probably off based on

865
00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:50,440
like how I was like pretty far in one direction

866
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:53,199
on Santa Barbara coming into the season. I probly that's

867
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,400
probably one I really need to assess a little bit

868
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,599
more because my brain is telling me, bet Long Beach

869
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:02,360
State at the peak of whatever this number might be,

870
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:04,320
like see if the market will move it a little bit,

871
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:08,000
and then play back at the market because my number

872
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:10,639
is pretty out of whack. I think I made Santa

873
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,480
Barbara something like fifteen and a half or you know,

874
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,320
something like fifteen and a half I think, And I said, well,

875
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,360
that's that's too much biased from like what I expected

876
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,480
them to be coming into this season. What they are,

877
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:25,440
what my eyeballs have showed me has said that that's

878
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:29,239
not the case. And so but oftentimes, like the market

879
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,159
may bet it in that direction. We've already seen it

880
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:32,559
go up from eleven and a half to twelve and

881
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:34,880
a half. You know, if this got to like thirteen

882
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:38,000
thirteen and a half, I may have to consider Long

883
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:39,840
Beach State, what I will say, And I'm going to

884
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,280
go to thank so let's think Garth here for the donation,

885
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,599
much appreciated. I do feel like one of these two

886
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:49,760
games is probably a blowout whether it's Santa Barbara or Irvine,

887
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,440
it feels like one of those these two teams is

888
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,480
going to smash their opponent tonight. I don't It's not

889
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:58,159
a not a great handicap, but like, just both of

890
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:01,000
these teams have underachieved. I guess the reason I say that,

891
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:02,719
and I'll go to Jordan first here and then we'll

892
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,440
bring Robin is this is another one where my number

893
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,679
suggests that Irvine minus eleven and a half at the

894
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,480
Open was a little bit light. This one's now up

895
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:14,159
to twelve and a half. Guarth specifically wants to know

896
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,559
about the Riverside team total over, but just general thoughts

897
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:21,960
on this one. Irvine Riverside is Irvine a team Jordan

898
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,440
that you think is going to get right in like

899
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,519
a big way at some point, you.

900
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: Know, texting back and forth, and you know, I expected

901
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,360
Irvine to get off kind of to a slow start,

902
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:35,400
considering they lost like their top four players from last year. However,

903
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,800
Russell Turner is the best coach in this conference, you know,

904
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,599
so he's gonna get it right at some point, and

905
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:47,519
got the DS right already. Like they're an incredible defensive team.

906
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,159
They're like one of the top fifty defensive teams in

907
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:51,039
the country already.

908
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,559
Speaker 1: Now it's just about getting scoring, right.

909
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,119
Speaker 3: You obviously lose your top three scores from last year,

910
00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:00,280
so how are you going to get productive points? You know,

911
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,000
we were talking yesterday. I was like, you know, they're

912
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:04,679
really gonna have to up games and they're gonna they're

913
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:07,039
gonna play ugly basketball. But they are figuring out.

914
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Darren Saran is.

915
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: Their best player. He's their best offensive option. Think in

916
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:13,559
the first couple of games that were really trying to

917
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,719
run their offense through what's his name, Jerry and Dixon

918
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:22,639
Dreen Dixon is an incredibly athletic player. He just doesn't

919
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:25,320
really have a good outside shot. He has to be said,

920
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,920
and he's good going downhill, so he's good at opening

921
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,400
things up offensively for kick and shoot. Right. They don't

922
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,559
really have a lot of shooters, which is a problem.

923
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,079
But they need to get out in transition, man. They

924
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,199
need to force turnovers, get out in transition and kill

925
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,960
on the offensive glass. And that's what they that's what

926
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,639
they've been doing lately, and that's how they need to

927
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,679
win onto games. They got two really good bigs and

928
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,199
Troll and Evans. Evans is just a monster protecting the rim.

929
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:53,159
I mean, Riverside's not gonna get many bucks around the

930
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,000
run night. They're really gonna have to shoot it over

931
00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:57,400
the top, and they don't really have a lot of

932
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,239
good players to do that. You know, I think Irvine

933
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:03,880
smokes him the night. Dude, I wouldn't be I wouldn't

934
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,400
be shocked if this is a thirty point win for

935
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,159
Irvine to night. I actually I love Irvine tonight. And

936
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,639
you're buying low on Irvine too, because that when you

937
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,840
know they have the opinion where oh, well they looked bad.

938
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,239
They look terrible, you know.

939
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,599
Speaker 1: So Jordan will before we go to Rob, I want

940
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:23,639
to tell you. So we'll let Rob say, you know,

941
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,079
say what he wants to say on this game, but

942
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:26,679
I will tell you that part of the show. We

943
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,559
do lock in a three team parlay for the show,

944
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,400
and so we will be asking you for a leg

945
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:34,960
of the parlay. So you can wait till the end.

946
00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:37,239
But if you want it to be Irvine, you just

947
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,400
have to let us know if that's like, if that's

948
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,880
your best bet, you just let us know.

949
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: You could lock me in for Irvine right now.

950
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and we're going to go to

951
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:49,000
Rob and see if he if he can curse.

952
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. The first thing I'll say where Garth is concerned

953
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,559
is I see that team total at sixty six and

954
00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:58,519
a half, not sixty three and a half. Makes a

955
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:05,239
world of difference. Again, to Jordan's point, you know death taxes,

956
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,880
and you see Irvine defense right, and you see Irvine

957
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,519
big men. It seems like every year there's somebody standing

958
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,480
at the rim protecting the rim for that team, and

959
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:18,039
it's generally always a question of can they score enough

960
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:20,480
to cover monster numbers. I don't see this year as

961
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:24,039
being any different. Although the shooting numbers are ridiculously low

962
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:27,559
so far this season, you would have to expect some

963
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,320
positive progression rather than saying regression. I always feel like

964
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,880
regression is a negative phrase. But I would think that

965
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,599
they do progress upward where field goal percentages are concerned

966
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:41,559
as they get into Big West place. So they're the

967
00:49:41,639 --> 00:49:45,960
better team for Riverside. It's a slower type game. And

968
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:49,079
again when you get into these defensive minded, slower type games,

969
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,199
limiting possessions, We've talked about two or three of them

970
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:54,159
already today. It's just hard. You have to shoot a

971
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,519
really good percentage against a really good defensive team to

972
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:00,639
get to sixty seven in this instance, and I don't

973
00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:03,239
know that they can sixty three and a half, would it?

974
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,199
You know, in basketball that does make a difference. You're

975
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,440
talking about the difference between a a three pointer or

976
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:13,280
not a three pointer. So I would think they stay

977
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,280
under sixty six points here the money is betted that way.

978
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,679
From sixty seven down to sixty six doesn't necessarily mean

979
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,280
it's a win. But I have a hard time seeing

980
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,960
Riverside climb that ladder tonight in you know, conference play

981
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:30,639
where you would expect the intensity, the focus level and

982
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:31,559
all of that to pick.

983
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: Up a little bit. Yeah, I mean, you know, one

984
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,519
thing I'll say about kind of having watched rivers you

985
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:40,440
see Irvine this year is like they definitely seem like

986
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:43,639
they lack that player that bails them out on the

987
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,880
offensive end like they've had the last couple of years.

988
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,519
Maybe it'll be, you know they I mean, there are

989
00:50:48,599 --> 00:50:52,679
guys that it could could potentially be, but they like

990
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,079
Siam might be that guy at some point, but like

991
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:57,679
they don't know what was it Luchin Last year it

992
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,719
was just like any time they needed something, it was like,

993
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,400
you know, he's got you like, you know, shot clocks

994
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,079
at one. We are desperate for three. He's nine feet tall. Yeah,

995
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,840
no problem. Oh they fouled him. He goes to the line,

996
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,079
he hits both. That was Irvine, especially every time I

997
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:15,639
faded them last year. This year they don't really have that.

998
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,320
But in this matchup, they should abuse Riverside on the glass.

999
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,239
They should get every rebound in this game. Riverside's gonna

1000
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,559
have a tough time getting shots off. It could get ugly,

1001
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:28,440
and I think, I think, well, for our sake, I

1002
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,800
hope it does, since we've got Jordan's like in the

1003
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,039
parlay being Irvine, I very much agree with. This was

1004
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:37,320
one where I had this was a number. Yeah, I

1005
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,639
had this one. Sixteenth is what I made the number

1006
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,079
in this one, And I think I might lean toward that,

1007
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,239
maybe more than Santa Barbara, where I feel like, okay,

1008
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,280
like maybe there's something to being that far off market

1009
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,360
because I'm still more of I think, a believer in

1010
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:56,639
this team because of Russ Turner than I am Santa

1011
00:51:56,679 --> 00:51:58,239
Barbara at this point. So I think that's a good

1012
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,239
call of Jordan to me the feature I mean the

1013
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,320
feature game of the Big West, without question, you're staying

1014
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,840
up late tonight if you're on the East coast like

1015
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,840
Rob and I that that's out in Hawaii, Honolulu. You see, Davis,

1016
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,760
Hawaii should be a great game, Jordan, I'll let you start.

1017
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,920
You know, you put me onto U see San Diego

1018
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:19,400
very very early on last year. I know this year,

1019
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,480
coming into the season, before the season even started, you said,

1020
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:25,079
don't be surprised if Hawaii wins this league this year.

1021
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,280
And I kind of was like, well, Irvine's really good,

1022
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,840
Santa Barbara's got all these good players. Can't forget about

1023
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,760
San Diego. That was kind of a crazy take to me.

1024
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,400
But now that I continue to watch these teams, see

1025
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,360
some of the flaws from some of the other teams,

1026
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,239
Hawaii is starting to look like maybe they're not the

1027
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,559
worst choice. Talk to me about you see Davis out

1028
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:47,199
on the island tonight playing the boats.

1029
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, UC Davis has really surprised me earlier

1030
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,719
this year too, like they've looked pretty good. But you know,

1031
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,320
Aroan Gno. You know, we were talking last night. I

1032
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,559
was like, you know, the Big West has a lot

1033
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:00,639
of good coaches, man, like, they really do. And I'm

1034
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:02,880
gonna know one of them. You know, last year was

1035
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,920
a down year. I don't think he hit the right

1036
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,519
I think he kind of constructed his team kind of weird,

1037
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:11,400
Like he really constructed towards defense, defense, and not enough

1038
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,199
towards offense. He went hit the portal and he got

1039
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:17,559
a lot of offensive players. Obviously, losing the kid from

1040
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:20,079
Evansville for the year like really hurts him because he

1041
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:22,880
was supposed to be their point But they do have

1042
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,360
Hunking Clayter. And the one thing about Hunting Clayter is

1043
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,599
like the true natural point guard, Like he's not going

1044
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:29,559
to score the ball, He's gonna look the pass first.

1045
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: He is young.

1046
00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 3: He did basically go handedly lose them the Arizona State game.

1047
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,800
They should have won that game. They were the better

1048
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,880
team on the floor that night. But uh yeah, and

1049
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,639
this is a good Hawaii team did They got a

1050
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:46,239
lot of good talent this year. Isaac john the Utah

1051
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,360
State transfer, having an incredible season. I don't know how

1052
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:52,760
Utah State let that kid walk man. Imagine toss State

1053
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,239
this year with him on that team, I would be

1054
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,880
they would be really good. And then obviously Nimishka, he's

1055
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:02,480
a hell of the trains three. He's been at Hawaii

1056
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:06,199
for a couple of years from Ulania. Incredible player. But

1057
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,719
on the flip side, like you see, Davis has been

1058
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,119
very surprising. Les Miles is obviously a really good coach.

1059
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,519
Or Jim Less, I'm sorry, is obviously a really good

1060
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:18,039
coach in his own right. They lost one of their

1061
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:22,719
best players in program history this year and they still

1062
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,199
haven't missed a beat. You know, Noll's Cooper look really good,

1063
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,440
Nico Rochek looks really good.

1064
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 2: Sabella.

1065
00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: This team, though, you see Davis, They're gonna have to

1066
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,599
win games pounding the glass at them, and they're gonna

1067
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:36,320
have to win games on the defensive end. They don't

1068
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,960
have a ton of scoring power, they don't have a

1069
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,000
ton of athleticism, but you know, less teams always find

1070
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:44,719
ways to win. And here they are five and two

1071
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:48,719
going to Hawaii, and Hawaii hasn't really been tested outside

1072
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,639
of that Arizona State game, so this one could be

1073
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:52,920
a battle. I lean Hawaii in this game. I make

1074
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,960
the number more around ten ten and a half, so

1075
00:54:56,039 --> 00:54:57,679
I would lean Hawaii here in this spot.

1076
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,519
Speaker 2: But this could be a battle.

1077
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 3: Man, it's really good night.

1078
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll hop in real quick. Adam and then I'll

1079
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,239
give you the parlay leg here. Just it surprised me

1080
00:55:11,559 --> 00:55:17,679
how the total skyrocketed upward. I know er Er Eric

1081
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,400
Gano and Hawaii are playing at a quicker pace this year,

1082
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,280
but the defensive numbers seem to be what stands out

1083
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,280
on both sides here. Not necessarily the shooting, not necessarily

1084
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,400
the ball handing. You go through analytics and you find

1085
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,880
it both teams turn it over quite a bit, don't

1086
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,880
shoot it really well from beyond the arc. But they

1087
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,079
both played pretty good defense, especially Hawaii's defensive numbers are

1088
00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:40,719
really good. And you play Oregon to one point, and

1089
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,880
like Jordan said, you play Arizona State the way you

1090
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,280
played them, those are good losses, if there is such

1091
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,519
a thing, those are really good losses heading at the

1092
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:50,880
Big West play. So I thought under might have been

1093
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,679
a better look. But obviously the market thinks this game

1094
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,760
is going to go up and over, pushing it all

1095
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,079
the way to forty six and a half. And maybe

1096
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:01,039
it's time for pushback on that total, and uh, look

1097
00:56:01,159 --> 00:56:03,639
toward the under real quick here, because I know we're

1098
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:06,480
pushing our limit here. I'm just going to go back

1099
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:10,000
to the beginning of the broadcast and use Utah State

1100
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:12,679
as the parlay leg for me. We laid it out

1101
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,000
pretty well. We took about ten minutes on that game.

1102
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:18,800
But I think they do all the little things and

1103
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,320
they just never get rattled. Guys, they just never get

1104
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,440
rattled at the venue. I know the DJ at South

1105
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,800
Florida that you mentioned at them, maybe they play some

1106
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,559
music that you know, the Aggies don't like so much.

1107
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:32,800
But they're just so good in so many facets.

1108
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: And the comp game for VCU with VCU is the.

1109
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,119
Speaker 2: One that really pushes it over the edge. Utah State

1110
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:42,440
has faced this in Martelli's style defense. They you know

1111
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,960
Hodgson and the NATO's disciple as we discussed, and they

1112
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:48,519
did well against it, shot it well from three, beat

1113
00:56:48,599 --> 00:56:50,840
that team out right. South Florida didn't handle it as

1114
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,440
well both games run and neutral. I like Utah State

1115
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,239
min it's going to happen real quick. We've made a

1116
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,559
little point about talking about line moves the other day.

1117
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,679
This game pushed all the way to three early and

1118
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,519
now was come back to one and a half where

1119
00:57:02,519 --> 00:57:05,440
it originated. And so you got one group on one

1120
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:07,400
side take back on the other. I think we're getting

1121
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,280
the best of the number Utah State minus one and

1122
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:09,599
a half.

1123
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,679
Speaker 1: I like, I said, I think where I'm at now

1124
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,760
after ye on USF after the last few games they've played,

1125
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,840
I would agree with that. I'll go back to the

1126
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,440
game that we were talking about real quick. I know

1127
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,440
we've got to wrap up in like five minutes or so,

1128
00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:28,599
but I'll go back to the game we were talking

1129
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:32,760
about real quick, you know, Jordan, I like, I know,

1130
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,159
you're getting forced to pay attax to back Hawaii on

1131
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:37,760
the island.

1132
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: Now.

1133
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,719
Speaker 1: It's been going on since the beginning of time. Whenever

1134
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,000
they're good, you're gonna have to, you know, pay a

1135
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:44,559
little bit of a tax to back them at home.

1136
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,719
So my number here was, like you see, Davis plus seven.

1137
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:52,360
I was very very close to punching in the nine

1138
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,519
and a half. In my head, I said, Man, I

1139
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:56,559
really would prefer ten and a half or eleven. I

1140
00:57:56,599 --> 00:57:58,320
think eleven in my head was kind of like the

1141
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,280
point that I would probably bought in. It doesn't surprise

1142
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,079
me that you see Davis has taking money. But like

1143
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:07,400
I got you know, I've I got burned over the

1144
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,079
weekend thinking I could just take the big number against

1145
00:58:10,119 --> 00:58:13,599
Hawaii with North Dakota that Hawaii ran them out wasn't

1146
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:17,159
even close. You know, I've had some success fading Hawaii

1147
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:19,000
at home. I played in Arizona State that was a win.

1148
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:21,199
Played Utah Tech that was a win. But like, the

1149
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:23,679
more I sort of watch this Hawaii team play, the

1150
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,239
more I am a believer in like what they're doing

1151
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,679
this year. So even though I kind of wish I

1152
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:30,440
had a bet in pocket at nine and a half,

1153
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:33,400
right now, I'm not like devastated I missed this. If

1154
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,960
Hawaii takes money and pushes this back to ten ten

1155
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,440
and a half, you may see me coming on U

1156
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:42,960
see Davis. If not, I'm sort of comfortable, like you know,

1157
00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:45,920
kind of leaving it alone and just thinking that, hey,

1158
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,199
you may have a good bet with UC Davis. From

1159
00:58:48,199 --> 00:58:50,760
a numbers standpoint, it doesn't mean Hawaii doesn't go out

1160
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,559
and just win the game by double digits.

1161
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,159
Speaker 3: The one thing that worries me from taking UC Davis

1162
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,119
is that, you know I was talking about it with

1163
00:58:58,199 --> 00:58:59,960
you last night, is like the one thing that offset

1164
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:02,760
to bat three point shooting team is negative free throw line,

1165
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,679
and Hawaii does that exceptionally well this year. Like they

1166
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,920
got a tony to just get to the free throw

1167
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,440
line and they knock them down, so like Hawaii could

1168
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,639
easily shoot like thirty five to forty three free throws

1169
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:15,840
in this game, you know what I mean? And that's

1170
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:17,360
you know, that's devastating.

1171
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:18,639
Speaker 2: Yep.

1172
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, they I think one of their players had like

1173
00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:24,440
thirty in a row or something. Yeah, that's a great point.

1174
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:28,320
They very very competent free throw shooting team.

1175
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: Let's do this.

1176
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: So there's only two games that we haven't talked about

1177
00:59:32,519 --> 00:59:34,880
on this show. We've only got a couple of minutes left,

1178
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,280
so quick hitters. If you have anything you're you're welcome

1179
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,519
to pass. We got Bakersfield north Ridge, cal Poly Fullerton.

1180
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,559
I'll go to Jordan first. Anything sticking out about either

1181
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:46,679
of those two games to you.

1182
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,039
Speaker 2: Man, the line on cal Pauly is is strange.

1183
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 3: I know Fullerton's playing a little better this year, but man,

1184
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,519
the fighting Mike George is a cal Pauly. They played

1185
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:01,280
an incredible style of basketball and I'm just wondering how

1186
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,719
fully is gonna start enough points to keep this within

1187
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,840
a possession and it's it's one and a half, which

1188
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,280
is which is really strange. So that right there is

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01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,360
a I would probably stay away from that uh season.

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Speaker 1: High scoring team.

1191
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:16,519
Speaker 2: Bakersfield.

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01:00:16,639 --> 01:00:19,519
Speaker 3: Obviously they lost a ton, lost two coaches. There's a lot,

1193
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,519
there's a it's a mess over there. There's a lot

1194
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,000
on how they're still four and four. I'm kind of

1195
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:28,280
staying away from Bakersfield here though, because I just, especially

1196
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,199
early on, I really don't know what we're gonna get,

1197
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:33,239
what kind of team this is gonna be, So I'm

1198
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,280
leaning Seasun there too. It's a tough night, man, It's

1199
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,679
a tough night in the Big West opening conference play,

1200
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,880
especially because a lot of these they beat up on

1201
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,480
good competition or they didn't really play a ton of competitions.

1202
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:49,480
So to find out a lot in conference play for

1203
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:51,800
the Big West here in the first couple of weeks,

1204
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:52,239
I think.

1205
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: Rob, what about you anything just quick hitter on those

1206
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,400
two games, if you've got anything that.

1207
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick. If I had my choice, Adam, I

1208
01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:04,440
would probably play the north Ridge team total over seventy

1209
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:06,159
nine and a half. I know they haven't shot well,

1210
01:01:06,199 --> 01:01:08,119
but the pace is gonna be insane. It's what they

1211
01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:11,239
do and if you get enough opportunities in this game,

1212
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,559
you probably get to up and over seventy nine and

1213
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:16,320
a half with them Bakersfield. It seems like, I don't know,

1214
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,719
I want to measure their travel miles. It just seems

1215
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,840
to me like they've been all over the globe to

1216
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,360
start the season in what they were calling like the

1217
01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:27,480
Rod Barnes Victory Lap or whatever when they went down

1218
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,840
the Mississippi and whatnot. But I would lean there. And

1219
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:34,559
just to further Jordan's point real quick about Hawaii and

1220
01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:38,920
maybe getting to the free throw line excessively tonight where

1221
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,840
point distribution is concerned, their free throws, they rank thirteenth

1222
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,400
in the nation. They get the thirteenth most points out

1223
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,440
of free throws of any team in the nation. So

1224
01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:52,039
point well taken there with Hawaii possibly getting to the

1225
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:55,119
free throw line and scoring easily from that charity stripe tonight.

1226
01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, by you, that's in the chat. That's our Keith

1227
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,199
landrewhis a Keith. He says north Ridge Merrimack money line

1228
01:02:03,199 --> 01:02:06,960
parlay pays minus one fifteen. That's not a I wouldn't

1229
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,639
hate that. Like I definitely i'ven't been higher than the

1230
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:14,480
market on north Ridge all year. Didn't really want to

1231
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:16,760
lay four and a half or five, But like, certainly

1232
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,960
the way I would probably look there Fullerton. Cal Polly

1233
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:22,880
is like Jordan said, that's a that's an odd game.

1234
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,599
My brain says cal Poly. But the market is like, oh,

1235
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,840
like it's telling me that, like maybe there's something I

1236
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,719
don't know about that game, and there's money coming in

1237
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,679
on Fullerton. So that's when I'll have to do a

1238
01:02:36,719 --> 01:02:39,360
little bit more digging on for my parlay. Like I'm

1239
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,679
gonna go back to one of the games we talked

1240
01:02:40,719 --> 01:02:44,360
about earlier. I'll throw a Green Bay pick into the parlay.

1241
01:02:45,159 --> 01:02:48,239
I just think that game being on campus. I don't

1242
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,599
know that the market is caught up to then yet.

1243
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:55,960
This year Robert fighting Doug gott Leaves. I've I before

1244
01:02:56,039 --> 01:02:58,159
you were on the show, Jordan, I kind of defended

1245
01:02:58,239 --> 01:02:59,800
him a little bit, said, you know, I think he

1246
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,519
learned a little bit from year one to year two,

1247
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,800
and I'm willing to get him to give him the

1248
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,760
benefit of doubt at home here he moved games back

1249
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,760
to Cress and I think that it was a good

1250
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,239
move for them. So we've reached the end of the show.

1251
01:03:14,519 --> 01:03:17,239
Huge thank you for Jordan. To Jordan for coming on

1252
01:03:17,519 --> 01:03:20,480
giving us a little this time and his big West expertise,

1253
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,880
his leg of the Parley, and his best bet is

1254
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,920
going to be cal Irvine minus twelve and a half.

1255
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,320
And then we've got two early ones, so hopefully Rob

1256
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,920
and I can take care of business early so we

1257
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,440
can get to Jordan's leg and cash this parlay. If not,

1258
01:03:34,599 --> 01:03:37,760
I would probably you could just bet the Irvine game straight.

1259
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,639
Rob's gonna go with Utah State minus one and a half.

1260
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,719
I'm gonna take Green Bay pick, which actually might be

1261
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,800
minus won some places now, but we'll call it green

1262
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,639
Bay pick. Jordan's on UC Irvine minus twelve and a half.

1263
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:53,639
That is your three teamer for today. Hopefully we can

1264
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:56,519
hit him back to back days, and again, thank you

1265
01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:59,239
to Jordan, Thank you to Rob. As always, we hope

1266
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,159
you guys cash all your tickets and we will be

1267
01:04:01,199 --> 01:04:03,039
back in the morning for more full court press. See

1268
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:03,519
you guys then,