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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go beyond the box Score with Jackie Ray. We're

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<v Speaker 2>live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Good evening, Jackie Ray,

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<v Speaker 2>It's always good to see you on the Saint Patrick's Day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, where's my green? Look? I got called anybody that.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a little bit of green on. I got

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<v Speaker 2>some army green Dockers. But you know, my last name's

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<v Speaker 2>O Kelly. How dona green? I'll get my fit free

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<v Speaker 2>drink later on tonight at the Problem.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. I love it. Speaking of green, how

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<v Speaker 3>about that for a seguy.

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<v Speaker 2>The Philadelphia Eagles are officially committed to visiting the White

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<v Speaker 2>House on April twenty eighth, and this is per Caroline Levitt,

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<v Speaker 2>the White House Press Press Secretary.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to this. I have two more quick notes before

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<v Speaker 3>I wrap up.

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<v Speaker 4>April twenty eighth, I can confirm that the Philadelphia Eagles

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<v Speaker 4>will be here at the White House to celebrate their

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl victory. I know there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>fake news about an invitation that wasn't sent or was sent.

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<v Speaker 4>We want to correct the record. We sent an invitation.

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<v Speaker 4>They enthusiastically accepted, and you will see them here on

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<v Speaker 4>April twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 3>Caroline Levett was very enthusiastic. She said that the Eagles

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<v Speaker 3>were very enthusiastic.

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<v Speaker 2>They enthusiastically accepted the invitation to come to the White

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<v Speaker 2>House on April twenty eighth. We all know that in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen, the Eagles, last time they were Super Bowl champions,

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<v Speaker 2>did not accept an invitation to the White House and

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<v Speaker 2>decline to attend.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we make anything of this either way? Uh, that

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<v Speaker 3>is a.

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<v Speaker 5>Great question, because I've been thinking about this a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>I was drastically disappointed to find out the Eagles were

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<v Speaker 5>actually going to go to the White House because despite

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<v Speaker 5>what she said, we know that the Eagles originally did

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<v Speaker 5>say that as a team they had decided not to go,

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<v Speaker 5>and I their reasoning for not going made since individuals

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<v Speaker 5>on that team they know that in general there is

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<v Speaker 5>an attack on them, not maybe specifically, but they're part

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<v Speaker 5>of communities that the White House has long tax on,

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<v Speaker 5>so it made sense that they would say no. So

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<v Speaker 5>there's no part of me that believes that in any

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<v Speaker 5>way them declining the offer, because we saw them decline

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<v Speaker 5>the offer that that wasn't a legitimate thing. I think

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm concerned about now, though, is what's the turning point?

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<v Speaker 5>Because we've seen this unfortunately a lot as far as

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<v Speaker 5>this administration. People realize that the things that are coming

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<v Speaker 5>out of the White House are very anti whatever, anti black,

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<v Speaker 5>anti women, anti LGBTQ plus whatever. So they're taking stances

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<v Speaker 5>against that. So now my concern is what power is

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<v Speaker 5>he wielding that is making an entire organization change their mind.

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<v Speaker 5>That's number one and number two. Are there going to

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<v Speaker 5>be individuals who say I'm not going, Because in my mind,

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<v Speaker 5>Jalen and Saquan should absolutely not go because they're the

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<v Speaker 5>faces of the team and who they individually stand for.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that they should go. But then if

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<v Speaker 5>they don't go, what does that mean for the team?

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<v Speaker 5>I think everything is just in a very weird limbo spot.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, let's not get ahead of ourselves. And you

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<v Speaker 3>touched upon it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because the organization said that it has accepted the

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<v Speaker 2>invitation to the White House, it does not mean that

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<v Speaker 2>all the members of the team have accepted that invitation

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<v Speaker 2>and will show up. And also, as I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>it's April twenty eighth, the whole world is going to

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<v Speaker 2>change between now and then, and the Philadelphia Eagles individually

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<v Speaker 2>as players and collectively as an organization, did not forget

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<v Speaker 2>that President Trump talked a lot of trash about the

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles and supported the Kansas City Chiefs because of their

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<v Speaker 2>MAGA associations having nothing to do with football.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know that's still going to be an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that Jalen Hurts, to your point, was asked

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<v Speaker 2>about the President during Super Bowl Week and he brushed

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<v Speaker 2>it aside in a very clear way that he was

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<v Speaker 2>not a fan. What this looks like in April is

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<v Speaker 2>going to look very different from now. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have other controversies. The President's going to make other statements.

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<v Speaker 2>We might be in the middle of an economic catastrophe.

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<v Speaker 2>We might be in the middle of a war in

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East, you know, because of things which have

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<v Speaker 2>happened recently. We don't know what it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is my takeaway. According to our last conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more of the opinion we need to be done

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<v Speaker 2>with this tradition.

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<v Speaker 3>It should not be a part of a White House briefing.

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<v Speaker 2>Because clearly it's in all of our consciousness about whether

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<v Speaker 2>the team is going to go or not, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>putting these players in an impossible position.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't tell me everyone's going to agree with it. We

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<v Speaker 3>need to dead this all together.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think the president that has made it his

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<v Speaker 5>mission to say we should keep politics out of sports

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<v Speaker 5>should be.

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<v Speaker 3>The one to dead this.

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<v Speaker 5>He should be the one who says, which now I'm

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<v Speaker 5>being facetious here if you guys can't pick up on

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<v Speaker 5>my sarcast, but he should be the one who says,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to practice what I preach. If I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want athletes involved in politics, I'm going to stop making

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<v Speaker 5>this a thing where now people have to choose between

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<v Speaker 5>their morals, their ethics, their ideology, and if they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to stand with their team.

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<v Speaker 3>We are done with this tradition.

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<v Speaker 5>Congratulations for Philadelphia Eagles on your Super Bowl win.

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<v Speaker 3>Go with God. You know, I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the easiest way to acknowledge them, to celebrate them

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<v Speaker 2>across the sports. You know, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>March Madness in the next segment. It doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be just the NFL, could be the NBA, it could

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<v Speaker 2>be MLB, all the sports you have the President acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>that team and say, congratulations, wonderful season, you are champions,

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<v Speaker 2>You're representing America in a great way on the world stage.

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<v Speaker 3>YadA YadA, yadah blah blah blah, thank you, good night. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're very very good. You're very good. He could say

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<v Speaker 3>anything he wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 5>But now here's the reason why I think this president specifically.

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<v Speaker 5>Other presidents could have done the same thing, but it

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<v Speaker 5>has been a more Typically when teams have gone to

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<v Speaker 5>the White House, it's been funds. We get a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of one liners from it. It's just this fun anecdotal thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's at the time we live in right now.

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<v Speaker 5>We live in a time where hate crimes are up.

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<v Speaker 5>We live in a time where older people are having

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<v Speaker 5>a hard time getting medication, specifically because of this administration,

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<v Speaker 5>they have wiped out history from black Mexican and women

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<v Speaker 5>at the Arlington Cemetery. So we live in a very

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<v Speaker 5>trying time where you're mere association with somebody or standing

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<v Speaker 5>next to somebody all of a sudden puts you in

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<v Speaker 5>their saying stratosphere.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether you believe as or perceived as an endorsement.

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<v Speaker 5>It's perceived as an endorsement, So I would be vastly disappointed.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I said, if there's certain specific players on the

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<v Speaker 5>team that go, in my opinion, the only person that

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<v Speaker 5>should be there is the owner in the GM because

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<v Speaker 5>I would feel like their ideologies might align with that.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody else should just stay home and watch it on

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<v Speaker 5>television my personal opinion. But I can't be the only

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<v Speaker 5>one that's like that. There's people out there who are

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<v Speaker 5>going to see certain people standing next to Trump and

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to assume that this wave of destruction that

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<v Speaker 5>we're seeing across our country they a co sign on

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<v Speaker 5>that they agree with that and they support it. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's not a fair assumption, but it is an assumption

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<v Speaker 5>that's going to be made.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me put it in real terms, this is exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what is going to happen. Jalen Hurts, the quarterback for

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<v Speaker 2>the Philadelphia Eagles, is going to be asked, point blank,

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to the White House? Do you support

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<v Speaker 2>the president when he's doing X, Y and Z. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he is in the impossible position of having to

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<v Speaker 2>make a political assessment and give a political answer having

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with sports, having nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>anything he's done.

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<v Speaker 3>It's now been placed in his lap.

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<v Speaker 2>And if he says anything other than I am happy

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<v Speaker 2>to do this, I have no problem to do this

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<v Speaker 2>and not acknowledge the actual question which is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be asked of him. He's then going to be put

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<v Speaker 2>in some sort of box that he endorses everything that

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump has said and done, and it's unfair to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And we say keep politics out of sports, but that

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<v Speaker 2>is what's going to happen, and it's unfair to the players.

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<v Speaker 5>And let's just I know, we talk about gambling a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's make a bet. Because what I would assume, how

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<v Speaker 5>I would assume Jalen is going to answer that question,

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<v Speaker 5>is I am not going to support this president. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going as a member of this team and to support

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<v Speaker 5>my teammates. That's not going to fly to your point, no,

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<v Speaker 5>because it's not going to be this blanket statement that

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<v Speaker 5>might have worked in the past, because now there is

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<v Speaker 5>a very specific overtone undertone, whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 5>in this country, and as a black man, you cannot

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<v Speaker 5>deny the racist undertones. You have to say to me,

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<v Speaker 5>you have to look a black journalist in the face

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<v Speaker 5>and say, I, as a black man, am okay? Shaking

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<v Speaker 5>the hand of this man who has been very open

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<v Speaker 5>that he doesn't even like diversity in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not only that, has made it very clear that

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't even like the Philadelphia Eagles, and drag Hurts

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<v Speaker 2>has made it clear that he's not a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>the president. So let's stop playing games here. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a break here. But on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a continuation of this conversation because it's

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<v Speaker 2>now March Madness. The brackets are out, my team's not

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<v Speaker 2>in it, but I know that the old country is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be wasting time at work watching it. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk some March Madness when we come back. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie Ray with me Beyond the box Score Later with

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<v Speaker 2>Mo Kelly CAFI AM six forty live everywhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>It's March Madness. Let's continue to go beyond the box

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<v Speaker 2>Score with Jackie Ray. Jackie Ray, I used to love

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<v Speaker 2>March Madness, and my reasons for not loving it now

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<v Speaker 2>are selfish because my team, my alma mater, Georgetown Hoyas,

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<v Speaker 2>have been horrible for about a decade. They've sniffed the

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<v Speaker 2>tournament once in the past ten years, so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any reason to watch. I'm not invested.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you serious right now? Oh? Here you go. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>some history.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time we made the tournament, we lost to

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado in the first round. I know you remember that, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>But all around the country people are filling out their brackets.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easier now to watch the tournament than ever before.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on like six different channels, and because of streaming,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna miss really any of the games. People

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna be watching work or they're gonna call in sick.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you describe the importance to March madness to

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<v Speaker 2>our culture in general?

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<v Speaker 5>March madness is one of my favorite things in the world,

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<v Speaker 5>because this is where you really to your point. I

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<v Speaker 5>can remember being in school, on a job, whatever, and

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<v Speaker 5>I would have either classmates or fellow colleagues that I

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't really close to, but then March Madness rolls around

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<v Speaker 5>and we're all talking brackets. We got a boss one time,

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<v Speaker 5>two jobs ago, I had a boss that was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>are we all getting sick this day? So we can

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<v Speaker 5>go to the local bar and watch games all day.

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<v Speaker 3>Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 5>It's one of those things that we all want to

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<v Speaker 5>be the one person, which is I think the statistics

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<v Speaker 5>are like point zero zero point one, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a better chance to hitt into the lottery.

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<v Speaker 5>But go ahead, yeah, yeah, I'm getting your home. Most

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<v Speaker 5>people's brackets are going to blow up on the first day,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's just a fun thing to really sit down,

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<v Speaker 5>go through your brackets, talk shop. You can kind of

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<v Speaker 5>tell who knows a little bit about has been following

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<v Speaker 5>certain teams or certain players versus the people who are

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<v Speaker 5>just doing that crash course trying to get the brackets done.

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<v Speaker 5>It really is a great way, in my opinion, I

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<v Speaker 5>feel the same way about fantasy football, when you guys

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<v Speaker 5>can get together and it just brings people together who

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<v Speaker 5>normally wouldn't hang out together. So I do like the

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<v Speaker 5>unifying spirit of it. I've never won it, I've never

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<v Speaker 5>even gotten close to. My bracket always is blown up

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<v Speaker 5>the first day.

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<v Speaker 3>Same with mine.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been adept at choosing brackets, and my team

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<v Speaker 2>usually never goes far in the tournament. And also when

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<v Speaker 2>my team is out of the tournament, I usually tune

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<v Speaker 2>out because I'm not rooting for Duke. I'm not, For example,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not rooting for some other team from the Big

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<v Speaker 2>East Conference where Georgetown plays in the case of this case,

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<v Speaker 2>would be Saint John's. It's the number two seed, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great turnaround story for the university. And also Rick

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<v Speaker 2>Patino can't root for them, so yeah, don't care. There's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing in it for me. But I'm so invested personally

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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball it's hard for me whenever my team

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<v Speaker 3>It's a painful reminder.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's how serious it is for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know if we for me. Here's the question,

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<v Speaker 2>is there anything more exciting than an NC two way

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<v Speaker 2>final four?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, absolutely not, especially if there's an underdog

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<v Speaker 5>in there that kind of flew under everyone's radar.

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<v Speaker 3>What was it like five six years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Villanova was the underdog and that just had everyone glued

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<v Speaker 5>to the television.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are these people?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, those kinds of storylines that help you fall

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<v Speaker 5>in love with the kids? Now, I do feel like

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<v Speaker 5>the men's game specifically, and I know I've said this before,

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<v Speaker 5>they need that, they need that underdog to try to

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<v Speaker 5>push that storyline because a lot of the kids, we're

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<v Speaker 5>not gonna know who they are next year.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have a whole different lineup next year. Yeah

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to the pros or transit, Yeah they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to the Pro.

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<v Speaker 5>So we don't really have the opportunity in the men's

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<v Speaker 5>game to build those relationship and build those fandoms. So

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<v Speaker 5>the NCAA men's game really does, in my opinion, rely

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<v Speaker 5>on those underdogs to kind of carry the story. So

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<v Speaker 5>if we don't have one of those great storylines, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't even know how interested I'm going to be in

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<v Speaker 5>the men's game just in general versus the women's game.

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<v Speaker 5>You know these players, these women, they have been with

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<v Speaker 5>their teams. A lot of these players have been two

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<v Speaker 5>three years, some of them even played four years. So

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<v Speaker 5>you have the opportunity to just really become a fan

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<v Speaker 5>of that player in that school. So it's an easier

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<v Speaker 5>storyline to carry. But either way, I absolutely love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Question was USC women's team disrespected by getting a number

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<v Speaker 2>one seed but the lowest number one seed? In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>the most difficult path to the Final four, largely on

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<v Speaker 2>the strength of losing to Ucla, who they already beaten

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<v Speaker 2>twice in the Big Ten Championships. Was USC disrespected by

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<v Speaker 2>their placement?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think you really can say, oh, they've lost

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<v Speaker 5>to UCLA when they beat them. But I've also have

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<v Speaker 5>been one to say for my entire life, this whole

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<v Speaker 5>decision by committee thing is just weird to me. There's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of things that don't necessarily make sense. People

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<v Speaker 5>will say, oh, well, they lost the last three or four,

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<v Speaker 5>so that's why whatever. None of this is actually logical.

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<v Speaker 5>It is based largely on feelings. However, even though I

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<v Speaker 5>think they were disrespected and their path is going to

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<v Speaker 5>be harder, I think they're going to come out stellar,

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<v Speaker 5>and so this specific path is going to solidify that, Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>this is the team that we think they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they weren't ready last season to take that next step.

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<v Speaker 2>They're definitely ready. It's all laid out in front of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it probably would be even more satisfying yes, to.

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<v Speaker 5>Say, hot, look you try to make this hard, and

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<v Speaker 5>here we are. Last season we saw a glimpse of

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<v Speaker 5>who they were who they are. Now we kind of

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<v Speaker 5>know who they are. I think this is going to

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<v Speaker 5>be a fun series to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be tuning in because I definitely won't be

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<v Speaker 2>tuning in to the Mids because I am petty, I'm salty.

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<v Speaker 5>Name your face favorite NCUBA men's basketball player right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I don't know about favorite. I'm curious

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<v Speaker 2>to see if Duke's Cooper Flag is the real deal.

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<v Speaker 2>If he is, because he's forecast to be the number

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<v Speaker 2>one pick overall, I like his game, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he is as not necessarily as good as advertised,

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<v Speaker 2>will have as an immediate impact as.

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<v Speaker 5>Thought right, And that's that's one of the problems we

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<v Speaker 5>see all the time in the nc DOUBLEA men's game.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't It takes a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 5>It does Leangelo in my LaMelo and you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>get the LaMelo ball. Lamela he's the exception to that

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<v Speaker 5>rule in my opinion. He translated seamlessly, but he was

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<v Speaker 5>always also born with a basketball in his hand, so

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<v Speaker 5>that's probably not a fair comparison. But it does take

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<v Speaker 5>a year or two, probably two or three actually for

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<v Speaker 5>them to catch up, but it's because they didn't spend

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<v Speaker 5>enough time in school.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're only eighteen, nineteen years old.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's what college would give you two three

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<v Speaker 2>years of legitimate pre NBA experience as opposed to going

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<v Speaker 2>from basically high school to NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you're jumping two levels in one year, So

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I'll.

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<v Speaker 5>Be at, Alonzo, speaking of the Bob Brothers didn't work out, Alonzo,

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<v Speaker 5>he definitely could have benefited from another year or two

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<v Speaker 5>in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely chasing that money. It's Later with Mo Kelly, Jackie Ray,

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