WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.240 --> 00:00:03.279 On. 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:07.839 Ah, Carrie's going to pon Peon something. 3 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:13.679 Yeah, they were my favorite unit in Warcraft two Peon 4 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:16.600 when you'd use the uh it's a good day to 5 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:21.160 die code, no, no spaces, whole sentence, it's whole code, 6 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:22.839 and it would make it so that your units would 7 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:25.000 kill the opposing units in one hit. 8 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:27.960 And you'd have like a group of nine Peons and 9 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:29.760 you just send them out with their little wood chopping 10 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:32.679 axes and they just take down a whole fucking city. 11 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:35.439 You'd kill their gold mines and everything. It was awesome. 12 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:37.679 That was that was fun sometimes when the level just 13 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:39.200 made you real mad and you just wanted to see 14 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:41.399 what was next in the story. That's what you do. 15 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:43.119 I was like, I could have done that in World 16 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:44.000 of Warcraft too. 17 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:45.200 I never played. 18 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:50.520 I played it for a while and I'm still mildly interested. Actually, 19 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:52.840 I'm still curious to see where the story went. 20 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:55.960 Wow, curious. No kink shaming in the nation, thank you. 21 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:59.159 But I never I never, since I can't do it 22 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:02.719 on my own. I just I'm not getting back into it. 23 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:03.240 I'm just not. 24 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:04.120 That's it. 25 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:06.840 So, Blizzard, you lost a whole bunch of fucking expansions. 26 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:09.640 You could have sold directly to me by making it 27 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:11.439 so that I have to have friends. 28 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.439 Blizzard Secret Layers idiots. Hey, we're brought to you. 29 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:19.719 By the wonderful patrons at patreon dot com slash cy Seal. 30 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:22.480 Podcast whether they like it or not, and they do. 31 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:26.159 Our last few episodes have been wildly engaged with, which 32 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:28.000 we're going to talk about on the show tomorrow. 33 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:30.120 That makes me really happy because that means you guys 34 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:32.280 are engaging with the show, which means that we are 35 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:35.319 mildly interesting, which is pretty cool. Let me hit you 36 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:36.480 with something that's mildly interesting. 37 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:37.719 I'm ready. 38 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:42.439 I actually super secretly got in on the last you 39 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:46.280 mentioned it earlier, Secret Layer Drop, and they arrived to 40 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:50.879 my house yesterday. I got the Arcade Game one because 41 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:53.359 of course I did, because there's a Norn card in there, 42 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:54.920 and there are arcade games. It's awesome. 43 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:56.879 Which norm card? What's the card? 44 00:01:57.239 --> 00:01:59.079 Uh? We Live Misfortune? 45 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:00.000 Oh yes, yeah yeah. 46 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:03.560 And then I got the light Box one and I 47 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:07.040 bought that one specifically because the art on the card. 48 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.120 For people who bought it, they know, for people who 49 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:11.800 didn't bought it, you should maybe take a look. All 50 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:13.680 of the art on the cards are made out of 51 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:16.639 like like light boxes where it's like construction paper of 52 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:19.120 different thicknesses held up over a light box, and then 53 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:19.919 the pictures taken. 54 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:23.240 And I just so Disney used to make their cartoons 55 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:25.639 so two different elements would flow past each other at 56 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:26.159 the same time. 57 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:29.560 Yeah, And just because in my teeny tiny little way, 58 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:33.120 I wanted to support that kind of thing, I bought 59 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:33.840 the Secret Layer. 60 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:34.719 Oh that's cool. 61 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:40.000 That is I think, well, in terms of animation style, 62 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:44.680 a probably an antiqued and dead way to produce cartoons. 63 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:47.120 Hey, I'll bet you that's something. If you're an expert 64 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:50.240 at that, you're probably hurting. And so, in my small way, 65 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:52.599 I want to support those people. Super cool I did, 66 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:55.080 and I got them and I opened them, and it's fine. 67 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:56.840 I got all the cards that I expected to get 68 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:00.599 because they were all listed the secret cards. I what 69 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:03.199 I have a problem with now, you. 70 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:06.159 Could fold one hundred dollars mills in magic packs and 71 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:07.639 people would complain about it. 72 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:09.919 And I didn't get a hundred dollars bills. Oh, okay, 73 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.879 I got two random zombies. Be cooler if you did, though, 74 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:17.080 I got too old border random like modern zombies or 75 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:21.639 like a crypt breaker and Uh, I don't even remember what. 76 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:24.960 The other's there's the one that gives all your guys extort, right, 77 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:26.439 that was one of them. 78 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:27.319 I didn't get that one. 79 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:29.960 Oh, there's more than just the two that you got. 80 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:33.719 There must be probably probably there's one random old border 81 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:37.199 foil zombie in every of this, like the Winter super 82 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:37.919 Drop or whatever. 83 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:40.719 And here's why it bugby. Here's why it buggy because 84 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:45.639 I one of the in addition to supporting alternate media 85 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:48.960 artists by buying the light Box Secret Layer, it was 86 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:54.719 the Loure wind Shadow more Block typal lands, That's what 87 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:56.879 they were. There was the murpholk Land, and the Goblin 88 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:00.240 Land and the Giant right. And I was so oh 89 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.719 certain that the sixth card was going to be either 90 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:07.759 the Elemental Land, m Primal Beyond or whatever it is, 91 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:12.680 or even better, the door in Land. You know that 92 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:16.040 like the forest that's like it's a forest type that 93 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:18.839 taps for you can also it's also a painland. It 94 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:20.240 taps were black and white. 95 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:20.560 Yeah. 96 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:23.160 Oh, I wanted one of those so bad. I wanted 97 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:25.839 like the cool light Box that you know what I 98 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:30.560 got instead, a fucking crypt breaker. God damn it, I am. 99 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:34.079 I'm not beside myself. But I am disappointed, and then 100 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:39.160 I was disappointed in myself because I had faith. I'm 101 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:39.800 an idiot. 102 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:41.639 I uh. 103 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.240 This is not gatekeeping because we don't gate keep in 104 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:44.959 our community. 105 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:48.720 No gatekeeping in the nation we like, no no kink shaming. 106 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:54.279 Also no gatekeeping listen, oh okay. 107 00:04:54.279 --> 00:05:00.160 Instead of gatekeeping, this is commiserating, and the commiserat we're 108 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:04.639 standing in solidarity because I too have been disappointed by 109 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:06.720 a secret card in a secret layer. 110 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:13.040 The only secret layer I've ever, ever, ever ever purchased that. 111 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:17.639 He said he would never ever ever ever do, and 112 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:19.079 I have to rub that in each time. 113 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:22.399 Well, technically a Ron Carr bought it for me and 114 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:23.680 then send it to me, so I didn't have pay 115 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:28.000 a seventy dollars shipping price. But here's the thing. It 116 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:32.480 came with a fucking gream of worm coming. And it 117 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:37.480 was misprinted and not like a cool miscut or something. No, 118 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:41.040 they just somebody, some graphic designer put the wrong number 119 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:41.639 on the card. 120 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:45.240 But as we. 121 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:49.079 Do in CCO Nation, we try our best, We do 122 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:49.839 our best job. 123 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.160 We don't try anything. We do our best job to 124 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:53.319 make a. 125 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.439 We don't have mistakes. What's on the happy access. 126 00:05:58.519 --> 00:05:58.680 Yeah. 127 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:00.839 What's the opposite of amount out of a mole hill? 128 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:03.240 What's a cherry on top of a shit Sunday? 129 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:06.000 It is a ship on top of a cherry sunday. Yes, 130 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:10.839 or a mole hill a mountain into a mole hill hill. Yeah, 131 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:12.000 that's that's the literal. 132 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:15.720 We're turning molehills into mountains here. Yes, actually we're turning 133 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:16.879 mountains into mole hills. 134 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:19.240 Yes, we actually, we actually are turning mountains. 135 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:21.199 I took that misprinted green a worm tongue that's got 136 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:24.600 one extra power, totally made it the commander of my 137 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:26.279 CEO raw Dog deck. 138 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:28.800 And you even left it in like the little celliphane's sleeve. 139 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:34.600 It's the only sleeved CEO raw Dog card in existence. 140 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:37.759 It's the truth until and this is true, we get 141 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.879 to the next trash Anti deck because I want a 142 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:44.839 prize at the last one. And the prize is if 143 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.360 I want to at the next trash Ante, Yes, I 144 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:52.199 can have sleeves I'm not good at. But the option 145 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:54.839 is there, maybe all sleeves, some of them, but not 146 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:55.480 all of them. 147 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:59.319 Just gonna say, can you imagine how luxuriant your trash 148 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:03.480 deck would be had sleeves. Dude, put them in penny 149 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.000 sleeves that were the card like rattles around inside. 150 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:06.720 They don't fit right. 151 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.680 I could use one of those like hot like things 152 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:13.920 to like seal them shut so like there's different different 153 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:17.079 amounts of fucking air in them. Yes, that is so good. 154 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:19.360 Seal the top shut with like an iron, like a 155 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:22.800 flat iron. But once you shuffle and the bottom corners 156 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:24.839 hit the edges, they split. 157 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.000 But keep playing with them, play with the split ones. 158 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:31.360 Oh man, this yes, yeah, I'm gonna you know what, 159 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:33.720 I'm gonna leave it when I get home. Iron them 160 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:36.040 when I get back from Edmonton, and then I'm gonna 161 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:37.959 just practice shuffle them. 162 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:39.959 In next year, baby, until they're broken. 163 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.439 Oh yeah, it's gonna be the worst. Yeah, yeah, the worst. 164 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:48.199 So tomorrow on the show, we are gonna talk about 165 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:51.800 the remainder of the Commander ban list and which cards 166 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:54.800 should be unbanned and put into the Game Changer's List. 167 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:57.839 I have a little supplemental topic that I want to 168 00:07:57.879 --> 00:07:58.920 talk to you about. 169 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.399 I have a absolutely outrageous thing that I'm gonna ask Ryan, 170 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:06.639 and his head is going to catch flames. Is it 171 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:09.040 the same thing that I want to talk about I 172 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.079 sure hope so, because that would be really fun. 173 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:12.839 Okay, okay, okay. 174 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:14.720 If you've already thought of the answer, your head will 175 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:18.120 not catch fire. If you have, however, then or if 176 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:19.920 you haven't, oh. 177 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:21.439 Baby, okay, I'm excited for that. 178 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:25.519 And because we had so many comments yesterday yester week, 179 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:30.759 we actually asked people to comment on our show with 180 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:34.840 what should be unbanned and why and just randomly give 181 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.960 us your thoughts on like the show, and the show 182 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:40.240 kind of blew up and I posted in a few places. 183 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:41.720 We appreciate you for that. 184 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:42.159 Man. 185 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:46.960 I posted it on fricking Facebook in a magic group, 186 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:51.320 and oh my god, hundreds of comments and people, of 187 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:55.600 course imagine this, people arguing online like oh yeah, you 188 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:57.639 don't know whatever, you don't think that this should be banned, 189 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.919 and this should be banned and mask would Nexus apparently 190 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:04.960 is like an egregiously terrible card that makes that makes 191 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:06.919 the typo decks like. 192 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:09.759 Yeah, oh man, it was a whole thing. 193 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.200 Do they know that Sliverstone has existed for fifteen years? 194 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.080 They know that lots of discussion is the point. 195 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:21.120 People are are passionate, and people want to see the 196 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:24.639 changes in the bandless. They want to play with powerful cards. 197 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:29.039 And this leans into what we were talking about, like, 198 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:35.000 do we want some kind of a tiered bandless Well no, no, no, sorry, 199 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.960 not a tiered band list, but a rolling band list. Like, hey, 200 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:43.879 we the Commander Rules Council, Committee group, whatever they're called. 201 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:46.879 Let's say they say every quarter. 202 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:48.519 So four times a year, we're going to change the 203 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:51.960 game changer's list, and it's gonna maintain or it's gonna 204 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:54.679 stay at forty cards and only let's say twenty of 205 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:57.080 them are going to carry over, so you're gonna see 206 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:59.960 twenty new game changers, twenty new game changers, twenty new 207 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.679 game changers every quarter. 208 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:05.879 Here's why they can't do that. Yeah, because the second 209 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:08.480 time it would happen, people were start ignoring it, and 210 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:11.840 then we'd go right back to where we were before. Yeah, 211 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:14.759 because people aren't gonna change. The reason most people, the 212 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:17.519 reason Commander is so popular is because it's non rotating, 213 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.440 and the moment you try and make it a rotating format, 214 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:23.120 people are gonna tell you to fuck off. And we 215 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:23.600 don't want that. 216 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:27.360 That's a good that's actually a good argument as to 217 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:27.960 not do that. 218 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.679 I have no interest in doing any of that stuff. 219 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:34.080 Then I would say, let's go to a lighter band 220 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:37.279 list and a heavier game changers list than what we 221 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.519 currently have now agreed, and let's make the we've been 222 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:44.320 talking about it for a month now, the Commander bracket 223 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.600 matchmaking system. Let's make that a recognized part of the 224 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:53.159 rules set or Commander, like other rules sets for other 225 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.519 things in the rule set, for Commander, you have to 226 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:59.000 have a commander. Your deck can only be your commander's 227 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:02.480 color identity, neat exactly one hundred cards, only one of 228 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:05.159 any card. These are the rules for Commander. Yeah, you 229 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:09.480 have to follow the Commander bracket matchmaking system. 230 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.080 I think if you make that into. 231 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:15.399 A dedicated part of the rules that people just learn 232 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.879 when they play the game as they learn the game, 233 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:21.120 you can go nuts with the band list, and you 234 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:22.879 can go nuts with the game changers list. 235 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:24.519 I concur and I think that if you were going 236 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:25.840 to do that, what we'd end up with as a 237 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:29.039 four tier band list, because a level one or bracket one, 238 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:32.799 which is go away. I think like if your deck 239 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:34.320 is like, oh, but it's just meant to be fun 240 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.559 and have people with chairs in it, then you should 241 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:42.519 just play that at home. You know what? I mean, yeah, 242 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:46.039 you know what it like. I have my casual deck 243 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.399 at home is so strong. Oh what does it do? Well? Everything? 244 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:51.159 And it costs ten? So every card is so good? 245 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:54.559 Well how many? Right? My theme is everything costs ten? 246 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:56.200 So what do you have to get you there? Nothing? 247 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.000 You know, I turn ten, I start doing stuff. Yeah, like, 248 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:01.200 don't bring that shit to a don't bring that shit 249 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:02.879 to public because you're gonna get stomps. 250 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:03.559 Because you're gonna get stomped. 251 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:05.840 You to play with your friends, have fun with it. 252 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:09.200 But when you do that, what you're doing and I'm 253 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:10.600 glad we're talking about this on the pre show and 254 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:12.519 not the regular show, because we've talked about it lots, 255 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:13.720 But this is a little bit of a new thought 256 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:17.279 I had. When you do that, what you're doing is 257 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:22.399 adding extra baggage to the pregame and to the bracket discussion, 258 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.080 right where in reality, we could have a four bracket 259 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:30.200 system one two, three, four and one is just the 260 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:32.159 current one and two combined. 261 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:35.120 Sure, then and then that's. 262 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:38.799 One three, the current three is actually a two, the 263 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:42.399 current four is actually a three, and the current five 264 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:44.279 is actually a four. So you have a one, a two, 265 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.159 a three, and a four sure, and your theme decks 266 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:50.960 just go alongside pre cons and say, ah, well, I 267 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.360 don't mind losing to a pre con or a homemade deck. 268 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:56.320 That's the power level of a pre con because this 269 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:58.919 is my people sitting in chairs deck. I don't really 270 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:02.480 care because it's not designed to win or sorry, it 271 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:08.080 isn't designed with a dedicated that's not right either, because 272 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:09.279 of course you're playing it to win. 273 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:12.279 No, some people can aren't, and that's why I don't 274 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:12.840 like ones. 275 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.919 Ah yes, And that's why if you combine with one 276 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.080 and two together and play it against people that are 277 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:21.279 playing pre con power or actual pre cons, then you 278 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:23.399 are you should be playing to win because your opponents 279 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:26.080 are yeah, okay, yeah so maybe just. 280 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:27.279 I mean, I don't want to say I don't want 281 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:29.200 to say casual players stay home, but like if you haven't, 282 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.320 everybody sits at chairs deck. Those are way more exciting 283 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:34.840 when you bring them to the deck like the show 284 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:36.919 and you meet somebody like me and Ryan and you say, hey, 285 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.039 this is why everybody's in chairs decks. Check it out 286 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:40.519 and we look through it's like, oh man, this is 287 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:44.399 and then begin to joke everybody's fun having a fun. 288 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:49.360 Times even better when they're good, like, oh man, I'm 289 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:52.240 trying to remember all Killer no Philler Miller back a 290 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:55.360 few years ago built a deck out of a card 291 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:57.320 that we talked about on the show. He built a 292 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:01.200 whole deck around this, like Traveler No. 293 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.480 No two color Enchantment. 294 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:05.919 I don't remember what it was though, And the decks 295 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:09.559 slap right, like if everybody's sitting in chairs or the 296 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:12.039 other one that everybody always uses as an example, ladies 297 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:16.159 looking left dot deck, if that deck shows up in balls, like, 298 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.200 I like that better than saying, oh, it's a one, 299 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:23.840 it's whatever, whatever, put it in a two combined, because 300 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:27.000 you've combined them. And now these ones that otherwise just 301 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:30.559 dirtle and jerk each other off are actually competing with 302 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:32.919 with real decks. 303 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:34.879 And nobody's going to be sad about that because it's cool. 304 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:37.039 I think. 305 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:41.279 I think that's I think that as a community, we're 306 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.320 if we did that, we'd be holding each other kind 307 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:50.919 of like accountable to actually put thought and stratagem into 308 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:53.679 our builds, when otherwise it would just be a scry 309 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:58.039 fall search with like a criteria kind of addendum, chairs, 310 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:02.360 hats fall off a cliff. You can put those things 311 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:06.279 into scribe fall and find art results. Everything costs two 312 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:10.639 converted manner, right, But if we say, hey, I'm coming 313 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:12.919 at you, I don't care if everybody's falling off. 314 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:14.240 A cliff in the art of your deck. 315 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:16.720 I'm playing to win this game, even though it's at 316 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:19.799 pre con level. Yeah, and that's me holding you accountable. 317 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:23.360 If you've got some weird jankie theme. 318 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:25.759 Yeah, I like that. And that way I can show 319 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:28.000 up a ball out of control with my Bellow, which 320 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.879 again is a one. I'm very excited to play at 321 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.279 once one Tables in Edmonton when we're there this weekend. Oh, 322 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.720 we'll be home. I'll actually when by the time this 323 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:40.879 episode's releases, I'll be driving home. I assume you will 324 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:41.399 be as well. 325 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.399 I'm driving home Sunday, Okay, so we'll be. 326 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:45.120 Both on our way home. You'll be home. I'll be 327 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:46.639 on my way home on Monday. 328 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:48.399 And what decks are you bringing? 329 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:50.759 I'm not sure yet. I'm gonna I'm gonna go through. 330 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:53.679 I'm gonna bring an actual one, not bellow, and a 331 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:55.120 two and a three and a four. So what I'm 332 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:57.399 thinking so far, what I've got is I'm gonna do 333 00:15:57.440 --> 00:15:59.799 necro bloom for my four, even though it's ranked is 334 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:02.000 a three. No, that deck's good because it's a very 335 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:04.879 fast combo deck who doesn't play any land denial. I'm 336 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:07.480 gonna bring norin for my three, even though it's a four, 337 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:09.639 because it plays it. It's a four because it has 338 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:11.960 blood more in it, and I think that that's fair. 339 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:15.159 I'm going to bring Vanaphar for my one because I 340 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.039 think that that's lots of fun. Is that is that 341 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:20.679 the every kind of facedowncreature dot deck? 342 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.039 Oh that's not the food chain one. 343 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:26.240 No, it's just every facedowncreature dot deck. And then in 344 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:30.200 my two, I haven't quite decided yet. I'm leaning towards 345 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.879 Ratidrabic because I played that at Big Ben's place a 346 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:35.919 couple of weeks ago with you, and it had a 347 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:38.039 really good game. But it was also lots of fun 348 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:40.559 to play. Now because of the the new zombie pre 349 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:44.840 con like actively made that deck so much more fun 350 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.639 to play. So I'm thinking that might be my life. 351 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:51.080 What changed of all of the all of my support 352 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:55.720 and utility stuff cares about zombies in play and creatures 353 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:59.919 in graveyards, and what Ratidrabic does is put zombies into 354 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:02.960 that are copies of things that aren't zombies and then 355 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:05.599 get the creatures in my graveyard back into my hand 356 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:07.119 where I want them. 357 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.279 There was new cards that were printed that do that 358 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:11.920 in this precon. 359 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.720 And I'm very I'm really excited about that deck right now. 360 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:16.720 So we're gonna that one might make the cut. We'll 361 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:18.720 see how it goes. And it is still a two, 362 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.359 and it's as stupid. Everything is legendary dot oops deck. 363 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:24.240 Right, it's fine, you know, you know what. 364 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:27.880 But I have no delusions that it's a one because 365 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.359 everything is legendary because that deck is fucking good. 366 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:33.680 Yeah. No, definitely not a one. Definitely not a one. 367 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:37.160 And I like cards or sorry, decks that have lots 368 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:40.640 of legendary creatures in it now because we actually do 369 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:43.400 see a lot of legendary creatures in precons. 370 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:44.519 Yeah, we do. 371 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:46.799 That a because the cards are good and they probably 372 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:50.400 fit the strategy, the synergy. They do two or three 373 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.039 in everyone that are a part of the current. 374 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:54.000 World or story. 375 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:58.200 And they do that probably from like a kind of 376 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:01.759 tertiary standpoint, because if you're getting a pre con and 377 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:04.759 you want to like take this legendary creature out because 378 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:05.680 you're editing the deck. 379 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.200 You're tweaking the deck. Now you have another legend. 380 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:10.599 That you could go and buy a hundred cards for 381 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:14.680 because you have this legend. I say that in jest, 382 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:17.960 but like I take a legendary creature out of my 383 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:20.240 pre con now I can build another deck on it. 384 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:23.000 You're also a marketing genius, So saying out of jest, 385 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:27.799 you're also saying out of absolute seriousness. Speaking of legendary creatures, Ryan, 386 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:32.319 we're gonna just waveer off. Okay, do you like CEO 387 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:33.160 token packs? 388 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:34.559 I do? 389 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:35.640 Do you like CEO. 390 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:38.799 Sticker packs now that you mention it, do you like. 391 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:40.680 Plain old packs and magic cards? 392 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:41.920 Ah? 393 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:43.279 Not as much as the first two. 394 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.079 Here's a challenge that I love and Ryan is not 395 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:49.559 going to like at all. 396 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:51.200 That's French r challenge, But you. 397 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:54.440 Guys are gonna enjoy very much. Final Fantasy is coming 398 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:56.359 out right away. If you would like to win a 399 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:59.960 Ceco sticker pack, a Ceco token pack, or a plane 400 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:01.799 old pack of magic cards, what I want you to 401 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:07.880