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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Today. Hey everybody, this is Left Striding.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Audis.

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<v Speaker 1>He there and welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for being with us for the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Friday. I hope you're having a great week.

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<v Speaker 2>We have an amazing guest lined up for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get there, as always, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start by inviting you.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to sit down with Tony from Georgia. Tony

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<v Speaker 1>has been researching an area for decades. It's about ten

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<v Speaker 1>miles from where I grew up in northwest Georgia, up

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<v Speaker 1>on Taylor's Ridge and Jenkins Gap. If you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>read Sasquatch Unleashed The Truth behind the Legend, my new book,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that I've included a story there from nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seven, mister Brown, the Jensen Hunter, was up on

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<v Speaker 1>the mountain and came face to face with one of

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<v Speaker 1>these creatures. Tony tells that story because that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the stories he grew up hearing and it got him

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<v Speaker 1>interested in Sasquatch research. So we had so many synchronicities.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a fantastic interview. Tony's had a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>amazing experiences. I know you guys are going to enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>it as much as I did. If you haven't read

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<v Speaker 1>my new book, Sasquatch Unleashed the Truth behind the Legend.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a button right here in the show notes you

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<v Speaker 1>can click that. It'll take you over to our website.

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<v Speaker 1>You can pick up an autographed copy, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>get it from Amazon, Barnes and Noble or Hangar one Publishing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a link for them right here in the show

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<v Speaker 1>notes as well. But enough of that. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are ready to get into it. Tony's on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>He's ready to go. All this is left for you

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<v Speaker 1>to do is sit back, relax and enjoy the show.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, folks on welcome our guest to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Tony from Georgia. Welcome to the show, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. It's good to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I am excited about this conversation. You are from my

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<v Speaker 1>old stomping grounds. I was born and raised in the

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<v Speaker 1>area of Rome, Georgia. I saw you on another podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with Doug and Alex over on Untold Radio. You started

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<v Speaker 1>talking about some of the things that were making my

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<v Speaker 1>ears perk up, about being back home and some of

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<v Speaker 1>your experiences. We'll certainly get into all of that, but

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<v Speaker 1>before we do, I want to start where I start

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<v Speaker 1>with most people. What got you interested in the subject

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<v Speaker 1>to Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 2>Begin with Okay, Bigfoot has been, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>a part of my life, but not as in the

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<v Speaker 2>research aspect of it. From a kid. I'm fifty three

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<v Speaker 2>years old, so I was born in the seventies. So

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<v Speaker 2>my first draw to Bigfoot was the Sid Marnycroft super

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<v Speaker 2>show Bigfoot Wild Boy. That was one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday morning shows. My dad would turn on to beat

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<v Speaker 2>horror movies and that's where I saw the legend of Creed,

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<v Speaker 2>Creature from Black Leg, Creature from the Black Lagoon. That

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<v Speaker 2>is where my Bigfoot journey starts. It wasn't that I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't believe it. I felt it was real from the start.

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<v Speaker 2>I never had an issue with not believing it. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>watch in search over Leonard Needmoy, the Sasquatch docuseries, and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that was on at that time that was intriguing.

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<v Speaker 2>I never had an issue with does this thing exist?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it would keep me out the woods sometime. I

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<v Speaker 2>would stay away from dark patches in the woods because

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that Bigfoot was real. It's never been an

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<v Speaker 2>issue with me not being real. I never had that

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<v Speaker 2>problem of not believing it growing up. I'm originally from Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 2>a little mining town called DeNora, Pennsylvania, part of the

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<v Speaker 2>Mont Valley, about thirty miles south of Pittsburgh. We would

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<v Speaker 2>be out and we'd be playing hide and go seek

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. We were told to be home

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<v Speaker 2>before the street lights come on. There is a patch

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<v Speaker 2>of woods by our house, rural but not rural. Is

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<v Speaker 2>not city. It's almost like near in Hoganville, where it's

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<v Speaker 2>just almost country. There was a rumor amongst us kids

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a big white thing in woods. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't tell you how it got started. I always would

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<v Speaker 2>chalk that up as a ghost or something. Because my

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<v Speaker 2>Dad would tell us ghost stories and all that. One

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<v Speaker 2>night messed around there. I got thought after the street

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<v Speaker 2>lights came on, it was dark. I had to walk

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<v Speaker 2>past this patch of woods to get to my house.

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<v Speaker 2>As I'm walking, I started hearing something walking my exact footsteps.

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<v Speaker 2>I look over there, and I don't see nothing. I

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<v Speaker 2>can just hear. When I would walk, it would walk.

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<v Speaker 2>When I would stop, it would stop. I started walking

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<v Speaker 2>a little faster. It walked with bastard. So I got

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<v Speaker 2>the idea, I'm gonna walk really fast and stop all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden and see what happens. So I did that,

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<v Speaker 2>and when I stopped, I heard it overstep my steps.

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<v Speaker 2>I just screamed bloody murder and just took off ran

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<v Speaker 2>into the house. But I never saw anything. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the only instance of any kind of vaut in the

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<v Speaker 2>wood that's happened to me until I started my Bigfoot research.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess at that time, I was probably around ten

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<v Speaker 2>or eleven years old. Every time a documentary about Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>would come on, I would watch it. I liked Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>more than the Lockedness Monster. To me, I was more

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<v Speaker 2>likely to see a Bigfoot than I would to Lockedness monster.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where my bigfoot journey started right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Very similar to a lot of people that I talked to.

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<v Speaker 1>You can grow up, you become an adult, you get

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to start going out and looking for these things.

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<v Speaker 1>When did that flip for you? When did that switch

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<v Speaker 1>go off for you?

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<v Speaker 2>I never did want to do that, That's the funny thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. I was around eighty nine. I'd have been eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a job in a convenced store. I worked

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<v Speaker 2>third ship. Back then, at the time, I was living

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<v Speaker 2>in Noon in Georgia. It was pretty much country. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't built up like it is today. So I'm working

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<v Speaker 2>third ship after midnight. You didn't get nobody coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no customers or nothing like that. I would

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<v Speaker 2>play It's gonna sound weird coming from me, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would play heavy metal music. That's what I listened to

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<v Speaker 2>back then. I would have some younger kids my age

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<v Speaker 2>come through and they would hear that playing, so they

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<v Speaker 2>would stop start a conversation. It got to be where

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<v Speaker 2>there was like four or five guys would come by

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<v Speaker 2>every time I work. We would talk about paranormal stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We would talk about ghost, bigfoot, luckiness, monster music, we

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<v Speaker 2>covered the whole gambit of anything we can think of

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<v Speaker 2>about with strange or music wise. One of the guys

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<v Speaker 2>he came in. He says, I know a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>nunts for Bigfoot? Can he come up? I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the extrame conversation. Now, prior to this, I've always believed

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<v Speaker 2>they were there, but I hadn't looked into nothing. If

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<v Speaker 2>the series came on, I would watch it, but there

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't no research invall. So this guy he comes up.

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<v Speaker 2>The team that he founded was Georgia Bigfoot Research and Investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>He comes up. He came up for a month or so.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd talk a little bit and he'd tell us some

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<v Speaker 2>stories and stuff like that. He asked if we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go. I said, no, I don't need to go.

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<v Speaker 2>That sit there. I believe it exists. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't got to prove nothing to nobody. I believe it exists.

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<v Speaker 2>But there were two other dudes that were have a

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<v Speaker 2>bit about going. They were go, ho, they're going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>So over time they kept trying to get me to go.

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<v Speaker 2>This is probably around in June and the expedition was

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<v Speaker 2>set for October. How they would go it would be

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<v Speaker 2>fall like early to mid fall to early to mid

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<v Speaker 2>spray is when they would go up there. They kept

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<v Speaker 2>talking to me and everything and trying to get me

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<v Speaker 2>to go. I'll not go. I do not need to go,

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<v Speaker 2>as he was looking for this thing. So finally they said,

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<v Speaker 2>during this time, I would go over this guy's house

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<v Speaker 2>and he would show me off resources that they had,

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<v Speaker 2>off footprints, stuff on the computer. They were looking up

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. So it was really intrigue and I spoke

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<v Speaker 2>if they'd go out go, I said, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>by myself. They go, I'll go. So it came time

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<v Speaker 2>to go, they never went. I went. That's what kicked

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<v Speaker 2>it off. That's when I found out about the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of his name now, but he went

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<v Speaker 2>up there to look for GenZ. Him and his friend

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<v Speaker 2>would go up there picked gen Z. His friend got sick,

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<v Speaker 2>told him I'll come up there later. So he goes

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<v Speaker 2>up he's picking his Gensen. Then he cut movement out

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<v Speaker 2>the corner of his eye and he thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>his friend, so he voluntaried him over here. So he

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to doing what he's doing, and he realized

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<v Speaker 2>that his friends should have got there by now. When

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<v Speaker 2>he realized that. He said, the hair's in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of his neck stood up when he looked this thing

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<v Speaker 2>was standing there looking at Although he was wanting to run,

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't. He just ve a lot. Did they run?

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<v Speaker 2>It walked up the revie. The funny thing about that

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<v Speaker 2>is it walked with a limp. It walked and drug

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<v Speaker 2>its foot behind that right there. Would initially got that

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<v Speaker 2>group up there to research because it involved the Chattuga

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<v Speaker 2>County Sheriff's Department, the Georgia Forestry Commission at that time,

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<v Speaker 2>they would actually shut down Taylor's Bridge while we were

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<v Speaker 2>their research. We had to have a gate key and

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<v Speaker 2>we had to go to the Georgia forest Fory Commission

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up the key. To come back. We had

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<v Speaker 2>to lock the gate behind us and all that stuff there.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had that whole mountain to ourselves to research

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<v Speaker 2>for that weekend. It was I want to say the second,

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<v Speaker 2>cossibly third trip is where I saw my first footprint. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw my first footprint, that had an effect

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<v Speaker 2>on me like people would see their first preacher, because

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<v Speaker 2>when they see their first preacher, they're trying to rationalize

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<v Speaker 2>what am I seeing. I never had that problem because

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<v Speaker 2>I always believe they were there anyway. But when I

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<v Speaker 2>a reality. Now. It was like to me, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a holy brill I steal. When I see a footprint,

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<v Speaker 2>I get idiot. It has me where I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just that belief. When I saw that print became

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<v Speaker 2>a reality. It cemented sidequatch for me. On my first trip,

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<v Speaker 2>I got changed by mountain line. I was in between two.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a guy about fifty fifty feet ahead of me.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a guy fifty feet behind me. We were

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<v Speaker 2>going out at night and I was in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't have a gun or nothing. I hear it coming,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, dah, So I just dropped to the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>They put them shot at it. It took off back

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<v Speaker 2>up the hill. That was my first time going up there,

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<v Speaker 2>being out there in the woods, being out in the researching.

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<v Speaker 2>That had me looked right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like a great way to start off

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<v Speaker 1>your research, getting chased by a mountain lit finding your

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<v Speaker 1>first footprint. I can certainly relate to because I've had

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<v Speaker 1>experiences recently that have taken me to a new level

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<v Speaker 1>with Bigfoot. But finding my first footprint here on our

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<v Speaker 1>property in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>We have forty acres out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought it specifically hoping that there might be some activity,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has not disappointed. We found plenty of things here,

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<v Speaker 1>and finding that first footprint is it's like the Holy Grail.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, it's one of those things where, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you believe or not, when you find that fi, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a cool evidence of something being here. It's not your print,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not anybody else's print that's around that area, because

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<v Speaker 1>either there's not people like us here. There's only two

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<v Speaker 1>people who live on forty acres, nobody else's I know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you live in an area in Georgia that's pretty rural,

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<v Speaker 1>and you understand where you don't end up on other

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<v Speaker 1>people's property uninvited. In these kind of area there's sad

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<v Speaker 1>thinging and flower bringing if that happens. Because everybody here

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<v Speaker 1>has guns and you just don't trespass on other people's properties.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that somebody's coming on here and hoaxing me

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<v Speaker 1>is not even a possibility. So I certainly relate to

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<v Speaker 1>the footprint thing. Let's talk about Obviously, you're hooked, you're

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<v Speaker 1>into this when did you start having your first experiences

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<v Speaker 1>and what was your first experience with these creatures.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm gonna tell a story. It's going to cover

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<v Speaker 2>a few years because it sounds like it's like back

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<v Speaker 2>to back. But there was plenty of time when we

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<v Speaker 2>would go up there and nothing would happen. It would

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<v Speaker 2>just be a camping trip. And now other times you

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<v Speaker 2>would have medio grabh activity at other times and you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't even sleep that night. So my first interaction with

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<v Speaker 2>a creature would be when we were around the campfire,

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<v Speaker 2>just sitting there. They would come circle the camp. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we have been up there enough. Now I believe this

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<v Speaker 2>about bigfoot. They get familiar with you, They learn your

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<v Speaker 2>routine and know what they can and cannot do. What

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<v Speaker 2>one of our routines was when they would come around,

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<v Speaker 2>not to jump up and go after they've just ignored it.

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<v Speaker 2>Make them think we're ignoring them or don't hear them.

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<v Speaker 2>They would come around and circle the camp and get

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<v Speaker 2>just outside of the light radis. You would get a

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<v Speaker 2>glimmer of eye shine. From time to time you would

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<v Speaker 2>definitely hear trees breaking and them shuffling, kicking a rock

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<v Speaker 2>or two. It would get sometime when we would completely

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<v Speaker 2>ignore them, just keep talking loud, and they would throw

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<v Speaker 2>something in the buyer like they were wanting us to

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge them to some degree. They would throw a little

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<v Speaker 2>rock or branch in the buyer or something like that

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<v Speaker 2>to make it blow up. So that would be my

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<v Speaker 2>first interaction with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. My first encounter I chased one. We were going

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<v Speaker 2>down into Jenkins Gap. There was me and two others.

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<v Speaker 2>Jenkins Gap when you to go down into the actual gap,

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<v Speaker 2>which is it goes down Ope's up till field, so

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go. You're going side to side going

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<v Speaker 2>down this ravine and you come up to this fields.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd get down this field and we're walking and we're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for tracks and stuff. This is probably about three

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock in the afternoon. The sun's out. I'm looking down,

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<v Speaker 2>but I happened to look up and I see this

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<v Speaker 2>thing take off. When I saw that, I didn't even think.

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<v Speaker 2>I just took off after I can see it going

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<v Speaker 2>through trees and it's keeping ahead of me. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>catching up to it, but it's not outrunning me. Either

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<v Speaker 2>the other two. What happened to them? They didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>holler or I didn't hear them, But I'm gone. When

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<v Speaker 2>it ran thor up where I didn't see it no

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<v Speaker 2>more so. When I didn't see it, I stopped. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just silent. The wind wasn't blowing, birds, wasn't turbing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was definitely silent. I just followed out, Listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not running no more. I'm not running back to camp.

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<v Speaker 2>If you choose to follow me, that's okay, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not running. And I backed up, turned around, and I

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<v Speaker 2>walked back to camp. You could hear them. I was

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<v Speaker 2>chasing one, but there was more than one down there,

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<v Speaker 2>and you could hear them following me back to camp.

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<v Speaker 2>When I got about one hundred to fifty yards out

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<v Speaker 2>side of camp, they stopped. I got back to camp.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, we're gonna have an eventful night tonight. That

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<v Speaker 2>was my first encounter. My second encounter happened probably year

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<v Speaker 2>or two later, same area, but it was a location

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<v Speaker 2>that we called the swamp. It wasn't up on Jenkin's Gap.

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<v Speaker 2>There was another location in that region we called the swamp,

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<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't like it was a small beer area.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a creek ran along the little trail there,

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<v Speaker 2>and we called the Salt just because it was wet

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<v Speaker 2>on this particular time. We wasn't on the next edition.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just it was a good place to camp.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a beautiful place to camp up there. So we

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<v Speaker 2>went up there to camp. It was me, my ex wife,

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<v Speaker 2>my son he was probably three years old at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>my stepdad, and my stepmom. My ex stepfather he was

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<v Speaker 2>the actual founder and his brother were founders of this group.

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<v Speaker 2>We're up there and we're talking. It's getting late and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>The women was wanting to go to bed. This is

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<v Speaker 2>probably about nine, getting close to nine ten o'clock. They

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<v Speaker 2>were wanting to go to bess. We was okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>because we were loud, laughing and cutting up, so we said,

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<v Speaker 2>go down to the creek and talk. How this freak went.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it creekd ran and then the past went and

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<v Speaker 2>it curved and it come down on the creek. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're walking and we get into the bin. As we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting into the bind, this thing steps out and it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't step out onto the trail. It steps to the

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<v Speaker 2>edge of the woods, like right to the edge I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it didn't hear us, because we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>hear it coming up. We were laughing and talking. I

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<v Speaker 2>can see it starts doing this number. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>the eye shine reflecting off of the camp. It's doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what the heck is there? He's looking eye

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<v Speaker 2>level at it. When he finally looks up, he goes

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<v Speaker 2>to drolls gun, which I stopped him from shooting because

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<v Speaker 2>you can hear other ones in the background. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it, it's looking at us. Then it just

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<v Speaker 2>turns and this time you've heard it walk off. In

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<v Speaker 2>another instance, I didn't see one, but this was the

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<v Speaker 2>same area because we had went back probably about a

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<v Speaker 2>month later, we went back there to research that area,

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<v Speaker 2>this time because of what we saw that previous. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a Saturday more morning. It's about ten o'clock. Everybody goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to the store to pick up some supply and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I made camp by myself. I decide to get get

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<v Speaker 2>in the tenth take a quick wash off, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>all soap up. Start hearing I just I dropped my head.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, that needs to be an out,

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<v Speaker 2>So I keep going and then I hear it again.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when every time it's getting closer and there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's one here, do you hear one behind you? And

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<v Speaker 2>do you hear one side and they're closing in, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, I hurry up and get washed off real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went and sat in the car till they

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<v Speaker 2>got there. I'm not fixing to get caught in that.

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<v Speaker 1>The more I've put myself in places where I believe

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<v Speaker 1>these creatures are, the more experiences I've had. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the other experiences that you've had. You

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the rock throwing and the stick throwing and those

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<v Speaker 1>kind of things. That's something that I've experienced. I went

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<v Speaker 1>on expedition last year up in Radium, BC, Canada. I

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<v Speaker 1>was out with Todd standing for a week there and

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<v Speaker 1>I had some amazing experiences. Didn't see a creature then,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'd had rocks thrown at me, I experienced what

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like samurai chatter, and you're hearing the Sierra sounds

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<v Speaker 1>and some other weird experiences with tree knocks and other things.

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<v Speaker 1>How many of those kind of experiences, as far as

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<v Speaker 1>vocalizations outside of what you just described, were you hearing

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<v Speaker 1>vocalizations in that area. Were you finding tree structures, Were

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<v Speaker 1>you guys finding rock stacks, were you getting wood knocks?

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<v Speaker 1>What are some of the other things that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>experienced outside of obviously seeing these creatures.

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<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't until later that we started getting tree structures.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't me. They were very few and far between

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<v Speaker 2>what we've document up. There were eight different creatures. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it was a family clan that traveled through there.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't stay there, they were traveling through. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get any vocalizations other than your bo grunt you'd hear

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<v Speaker 2>every now and again, but no howls. We tried tree knocking.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't experienced any tree knocking up there. The closest

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<v Speaker 2>vocalization I got where we were going back down into

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<v Speaker 2>Jenkin's Gap and this was probably ten years after the

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<v Speaker 2>chase happened. We were going back down there. As we

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<v Speaker 2>got into the second bind, we heard a tree being

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<v Speaker 2>pushed over. That was the only time I ever drew

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<v Speaker 2>my gun, So that to me, that was in the gresh.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no wind, there's no reason for a tree to

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<v Speaker 2>be pushed over or follow So I drew my gun

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I looked at my partner said, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go down there and check that. He said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go. So we walked on down there and we

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<v Speaker 2>seen were the tree. It was still a lie, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was plopbout that big and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you see about that bigger mp and you could see

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<v Speaker 2>the roofs and everything, how it was just pushed over.

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<v Speaker 2>We looked no footprints. We walked around that whole area,

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<v Speaker 2>no footprints. I sat on the decided that had the

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<v Speaker 2>roots on it, and he sat on the fore side

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<v Speaker 2>down there, and we were sitting there trying to contemplate

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<v Speaker 2>what could have pushed this tree over or if it

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<v Speaker 2>just was naturally fell. While we're sitting there, right next

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<v Speaker 2>to my ear, I hear look just like that. It

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<v Speaker 2>was strong enough to where it like I can feel

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<v Speaker 2>the wind when it happened. I looked at him and

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<v Speaker 2>he looked at me and I said, did you hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, yeah. The funny thing is he said it

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like it was right next to him too. We

417
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<v Speaker 2>looked and we're looking a ring on. Didn't hear nothing

418
00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:39.000
<v Speaker 2>come up, didn't hear nothing leave, didn't see anything. But

419
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<v Speaker 2>it only happened that one time. That is the only

420
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<v Speaker 2>vocalization that I physically heard right there, other than just

421
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<v Speaker 2>the I would hear a grunt. That vocalization sounded different

422
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<v Speaker 2>than the grunts we would hear when they're walking through.

423
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<v Speaker 2>It was like, because the grunts we would hear, I

424
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<v Speaker 2>be like, like they're walking and you know how misstep

425
00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and you like that. That's what those drusts sounded like.

426
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<v Speaker 2>They would only throw rocks when we were ignoring. They

427
00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:12.559
<v Speaker 2>were strategic. They were throwing roughs, not just rocks in

428
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<v Speaker 2>the camp, but they would throw rocks in the fire.

429
00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.680
<v Speaker 2>It was precise in the fire. Anything they would throw ass,

430
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<v Speaker 2>they would throw it in the fire.

431
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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned a couple of things I want to talk

432
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<v Speaker 1>about here because this is something and I'm dancing around

433
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<v Speaker 1>because the project that I was involved in just a

434
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<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago, where I had so many experiences that

435
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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about. I'm under an NDA until

436
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.160
<v Speaker 1>this project comes out, so I can't really get into

437
00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.319
<v Speaker 1>it deeply. But I want to talk about something that

438
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<v Speaker 1>really has stuck out to me recently. Is eye shine

439
00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:45.920
<v Speaker 1>versus eye glow. You mentioned seeing eye shine a couple

440
00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of times. I've talked to people that have had encounters

441
00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:54.519
<v Speaker 1>with these things, and they describe self illuminating eyes versus eyeshine.

442
00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk a little bit about what you guys have experienced. Obviously,

443
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<v Speaker 1>you've seen eye shine from the fire, I'm assuming other

444
00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:04.400
<v Speaker 1>ambient light sources. Have you ever seen anything that you

445
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.400
<v Speaker 1>would consider to be self illuminating eyes or has it

446
00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>always just been run of the mill as a large

447
00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>hairy bipedal ape in the woods can be in North America?

448
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<v Speaker 1>Are you seeing eyeshine versus eye glow or do you

449
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<v Speaker 1>think there could be something else.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Going on there? All right, so I can't say I've

451
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:28.680
<v Speaker 2>seen eye glow because every time I've seen their eyes shining,

452
00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:34.240
<v Speaker 2>there has been a light source reflecting. Now, depending on

453
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:38.039
<v Speaker 2>what the LFE source is, that determines what the color

454
00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:41.400
<v Speaker 2>of the eye shine is. Because I've kicked one in

455
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.119
<v Speaker 2>the face just a mag light and it's just a

456
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:49.720
<v Speaker 2>white yellowish coat. The fire like the campfire, just a

457
00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:54.440
<v Speaker 2>direct campfire light. It flickers and you'll have deep orange,

458
00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:58.039
<v Speaker 2>almost reddish color. If it's standing there looking long enough,

459
00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:01.920
<v Speaker 2>you'll see it its eyeful be flickering like the fire.

460
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:08.519
<v Speaker 2>I've seen emmil green, bright white or red yellow, all

461
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:10.839
<v Speaker 2>of it was dependent upon the light. I've never seen

462
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:15.119
<v Speaker 2>them self illuminate. There was one instance where we were

463
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<v Speaker 2>set up two base camps. We had done something in

464
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<v Speaker 2>what we believe was their feeding ground that got them

465
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:23.839
<v Speaker 2>stirred up. They would former USh one camp. They would

466
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<v Speaker 2>come to that camp and just start running around, not

467
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:31.039
<v Speaker 2>throw anything, but just running around. We would call the

468
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:33.880
<v Speaker 2>other camp to come down and help when they would

469
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>get there, then they would go to the ufther camp

470
00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:39.640
<v Speaker 2>do the same thing. This night, we were running back

471
00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:42.839
<v Speaker 2>and forth. If you got outside of the light radius,

472
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:45.160
<v Speaker 2>you can see them in the shadows, running and peeping

473
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 2>behind trees. The moonlight plays a big part. We tried

474
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:53.200
<v Speaker 2>to go on full moons because you could see at

475
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:55.599
<v Speaker 2>night in the woods you could at least see the

476
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.079
<v Speaker 2>outlines in the shadows. Some tight We was sitting in

477
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:00.359
<v Speaker 2>the dark and just have our flashlights off see what

478
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:04.200
<v Speaker 2>we could see. You would see shadows and stuff running around.

479
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:07.279
<v Speaker 2>But I never saw any eyeshine when no light source

480
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 2>was hitting them in the face. I know there has

481
00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:14.759
<v Speaker 2>been reports of people seeing red glowing eyes, big saucer

482
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:18.319
<v Speaker 2>type eyes. Now their eyes are big, but sometimes I

483
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>wonder there is a light source that they just may

484
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 2>not see or be aware of it, or something like

485
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.599
<v Speaker 2>that that can be causing their eyes to reflect.

486
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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned that you thought there was a clan of

487
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.839
<v Speaker 1>these things or a family of these things in that area.

488
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<v Speaker 1>You guys were out there for decades doing this research.

489
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Did you find a pattern in when they.

490
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Were most active? Was it the fall, winter summer?

491
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<v Speaker 1>If you could talk a little bit about that, and

492
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.039
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some of the prints that you guys

493
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.759
<v Speaker 1>have found up there. Were you finding different sized prints

494
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>that led you to believe there may be bigger males, females,

495
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and some juveniles out in that area.

496
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:58.079
<v Speaker 2>The prints that we found, that's what determined that there

497
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:02.200
<v Speaker 2>were possibly eight different creatures up there than being a

498
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 2>family clan. The biggest track that we found up there

499
00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>was twenty one inches. We didn't have enough plaster of

500
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>past before we ran out of plaster of parish pour

501
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.799
<v Speaker 2>in a fifteen inch track. Now, the difference said is

502
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 2>you had that big twenty one inch. Now we call

503
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 2>him the old Man because we believe that's the one

504
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 2>that the gentleman saw when he was picking Jedsen. We

505
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.599
<v Speaker 2>believe that's the one that he saw because there was

506
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>definite evidence of one that was crippled. He was not

507
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>always there. You didn't see him much. But this track

508
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:41.720
<v Speaker 2>we found was fifteen inches, and some of them had

509
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.079
<v Speaker 2>different characteristics. Some toes were longer than others. Like you've

510
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:47.200
<v Speaker 2>had two to fifteen inch track, one of them's toes

511
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:50.079
<v Speaker 2>will be longer than the other one. Just crazy stuff

512
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>like that. The smallest one was thirteen inches. We assumed

513
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:57.160
<v Speaker 2>that was a jewnile one. We believe that they traveled

514
00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:59.440
<v Speaker 2>through there. We went up there in the summertime, and

515
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:03.640
<v Speaker 2>we went up there wintertime. Absolutely nothing. We believed that

516
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 2>they were coming from somewhere going through that location. We

517
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>don't believe they lived there, but they went through there.

518
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:13.839
<v Speaker 2>The time that we had the most activity is when

519
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:17.519
<v Speaker 2>we would have so happened to interrupt their flow, because

520
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:20.319
<v Speaker 2>they said that there was nobody up there during that

521
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:24.599
<v Speaker 2>season right there. I boys believed that their pattern of

522
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>travel was in the spring, they were coming through there,

523
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>going to somewhere. In the fall, they were coming from

524
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:35.640
<v Speaker 2>wherever they went to in the spring, going back to

525
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>where they were going. That's just what we believed was

526
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>going on up there. The footprints we poured. Here's a

527
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 2>sad thing. The two dudes that were over this tea.

528
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 2>They both passed away at all of the evidence went

529
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>with it. We had hair samples that didn't get sent off.

530
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 2>We had footprints that I couldn't tell you what happened

531
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 2>to them. And that twenty one inch track we so

532
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 2>happened to find it, that was found by accident. So

533
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 2>where we camped that we set up our base camp.

534
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:09.799
<v Speaker 2>It was off of the Spire Road, so we parked

535
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 2>along the Spire Road. The last car was by a

536
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.640
<v Speaker 2>tree that we would go take a leak at. We'd

537
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 2>packing up, get ready to head home. The girl back

538
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>there of her car, she's putting her stuff bed and

539
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.240
<v Speaker 2>she hauls out. Hey, guys, Pepper, I look at this

540
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and we go back there and it is pretty twenty

541
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>one inch track, it's about that deep in the ground.

542
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.359
<v Speaker 2>He had to weigh every bit of eight to nine

543
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:38.599
<v Speaker 2>hundred pounds. We had a dude there that weigh three fifty.

544
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 2>He couldn't even scratch the service man. How many times

545
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.960
<v Speaker 2>did we go back there to take a leak? How

546
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 2>many times? Because it was just outside the light radius,

547
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:50.799
<v Speaker 2>because we had women in the team, so we didn't

548
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 2>want so it's just outside the light radius. It's back

549
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:57.079
<v Speaker 2>there by this tree. Just I think it easily to

550
00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>snatched us up and just we brought our team from

551
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 2>the as a paranormal team. They mainly done research on

552
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:05.160
<v Speaker 2>ghosts and stuff, and I think they have one or

553
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 2>two expeditions somewhere else.

554
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see we'll be

555
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

556
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 2>And they had Nightfisch with him. This was the first

557
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 2>time we had used Nightfitch because we didn't have the

558
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 2>money for the technology that was out there, so we

559
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>basically just had maglights. We even go out there in

560
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:31.039
<v Speaker 2>the woods look do our checking to see if anything's

561
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>come through during the daytime. At night this wait for

562
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>them to come to us, but then we would probably

563
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>make them do stuff we can gather the evidence. This

564
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 2>guy they had night vision, so we decided we're going

565
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 2>to use this night vision. I had a camera, another

566
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.920
<v Speaker 2>team member had a camera, and that guy that actually

567
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 2>brought this stuff he had like at the time was

568
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:55.519
<v Speaker 2>a third generation monocular night bitch. So we'd go out

569
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>of base camp. Its first time we ever. Let this

570
00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.880
<v Speaker 2>is the first time we didn't have anybody in base

571
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>when we went out. We always had some life to

572
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:04.359
<v Speaker 2>stay back in base camp. So we go out. We're

573
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:06.920
<v Speaker 2>about one hundred yards outside of base camp. In each direction.

574
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>The night vision camera that the other team had the

575
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 2>battery went dead in it. Their battery goes dead. He

576
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>comes over the radio. Well, he tells me, so I'll

577
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.599
<v Speaker 2>go get the batter. No big deal. He's done a

578
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:24.680
<v Speaker 2>night vision camera branch researcher. As he's walking back to

579
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>base camp. He comes over the radio. His voice is shaken.

580
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 2>He's I see it. It's standing right here. What do

581
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I do? I'm thinking shoot it. But's coming out and

582
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.039
<v Speaker 2>doing something. He was quivering his voice. He's gonna get me.

583
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 2>So I take off running down there, and I'm trying

584
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>to see through this night vision little window. I can't

585
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:50.119
<v Speaker 2>see nothing. I'm running through these woods. What I'm trying

586
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:54.039
<v Speaker 2>to do is save my teammate. I'm thinking of ways

587
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:58.279
<v Speaker 2>I can tackle this thing. So I'm running just full board,

588
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 2>get to where I see him, and I see him

589
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>pointing towards it. I'm trucking down through there and I

590
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>get to where he's at. By this time, the other

591
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>teammate comes up. It's down there. It's down there, So

592
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.039
<v Speaker 2>we take off down there, and I can't see much,

593
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>so I finally just took him put it down because

594
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>it was making me. I couldn't see. I was running

595
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>in the stuff. So we get to the edge of

596
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:20.480
<v Speaker 2>this little ravine. Look at this, dude, listen, do you

597
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 2>want to go down there? He's now that is too

598
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 2>dark and it's too deep, and you can hear him

599
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>scurrying down. So we come back up and Buddy is

600
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 2>sitting on the ground, literally in tears shake. He was

601
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 2>probably ten feet away from it because there was a

602
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 2>tree there, and it was standing in front of the tree,

603
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 2>just about on the road. As he was walking up

604
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.240
<v Speaker 2>the road, he walked to the edge of the road

605
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>and you don't necessarily walk on in the middle of it.

606
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 2>He walked right by, and he was glancing at it

607
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>that night, and it was right there. The creature did

608
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>not realize he was seen, so the creature didn't move.

609
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 2>The guy is standing there with them didn't be to

610
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 2>this thing. He's looking at it and the crew just

611
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 2>looking at hill, and it didn't move. It just stood

612
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>in there until he started pointing that when he started

613
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>pointing at it and he heard me coming, it relaxed

614
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>and I think That's what kind of scared him because

615
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:18.759
<v Speaker 2>it looked like it was coming at because it just

616
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 2>hunched over like, turned and went down that ramine. We

617
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 2>interviewed the map boards. He said it was built like

618
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:29.119
<v Speaker 2>very easily like. His description with it was easily like.

619
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 2>It had big upper body but skinny legs. His upper

620
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 2>body portion did not match his lower portion.

621
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's something else that I love talking to people who

622
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 1>go into areas over and over again and deal with

623
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.519
<v Speaker 1>the same individuals. I think it's fascinating because there's so

624
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.039
<v Speaker 1>few people that get the opportunity to do that. A

625
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 1>couple of people come to mind that the folks at Nawac,

626
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the North American wood a Conservancy out of Area X.

627
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 1>There's people out in the Olympic Project, and there's guys

628
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>like Shane and Randy Herrington or doing things in the

629
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.599
<v Speaker 1>four hundred, But you guys were dealing with these things

630
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. Here's one of the things that

631
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>has always fascinated me about sasquatch research is people who

632
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>claim that they are hit with, zapped with, or experience infrasound.

633
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.639
<v Speaker 1>That's something that any of you, yourself, or any of

634
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:20.320
<v Speaker 1>your teammates ever experienced while you guys have been out

635
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>dealing with these things.

636
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Now, I've never experienced the infrasound. I believe they do

637
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:30.360
<v Speaker 2>it because large mammals have that. For examplehen your tigers,

638
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 2>your big cats, they start purring. I believe these creatures

639
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 2>have that. I think it's individually based. For example, I've

640
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:41.760
<v Speaker 2>never experienced it, but some of my teammates now, of

641
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.920
<v Speaker 2>course they've called it zap I like to say the infrasound.

642
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's a low frequency that just messles with

643
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>your alert nervous system. I don't believe it's all purpose.

644
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's something that they just naturally do based

645
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 2>on a particular circumstance, their rate of breathing. A lot

646
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 2>of times it's been like an stresful situation that people

647
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 2>are impacted by that. The bigger the creature, the stronger

648
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>that infrasound will be. For example, if you take a

649
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:13.559
<v Speaker 2>lion cup, the infrasound, but it's not to the level

650
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:18.360
<v Speaker 2>of a whole grown lion that when they roar, things

651
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:23.199
<v Speaker 2>caused when the cup wars, nothing happens. And that's doesn't

652
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 2>mean does it's not there. It's just not matured or

653
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>developed to that level yet. So there's a couple of

654
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>members on our team at that time that have experienced it,

655
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and what they've experienced was just like a day's type thing.

656
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 2>They lose track of what they're doing. That's happened when

657
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 2>creatures were a rent, not when they was, but when

658
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 2>they were arount. So I fully believe in the Infrasunz.

659
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like said, I don't believe it's a directed thing

660
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>because if that lotercasion I was chasing that one, I'd

661
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.639
<v Speaker 2>got sack, they'd have got me, but nothing.

662
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.400
<v Speaker 1>That would be a perfect time to use it, if

663
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:58.039
<v Speaker 1>they could use it in a direction to stop a thread.

664
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.159
<v Speaker 1>It's a very good point. I've never talked to anybody

665
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>who's tried to chase one. It's a rare thing that

666
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>people into the woods chasing.

667
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I've heard of negative encounters with these creatures, but for

668
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>the most part, I have not for the most part

669
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 2>that they've been docile. They've been curious, playful at times.

670
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, we were dealing with the same creatures for

671
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 2>ten twenty years, so they knew what we were going

672
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 2>to do. There was a familiarity there with them. Now

673
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not afraid of them, but I respect them. I

674
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 2>tell people, listen, if I'm going in the woods and

675
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I know the the sisequas there, I'm good because I

676
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna worry about bears, lives, all this other stuff

677
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>out there trying to get because I do believe they'll

678
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:43.079
<v Speaker 2>cover you. If you out there you're just tooling the

679
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>law and they're around. When some other animal tries to

680
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:52.280
<v Speaker 2>do something to you, I honestly believe they will cover

681
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>you in that respect, run it off. And it's something

682
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 2>that you may never even see or know even about,

683
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 2>because you're just buying your old business. You don't know

684
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.679
<v Speaker 2>there's a wolf there. You don't know there may be

685
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:05.920
<v Speaker 2>a bear there. But these creatures do.

686
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk a little bit about the naysayers in Bigfoot,

687
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the skeptical folks out there. I am a very skeptical person.

688
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I have certainly came a long way in believing that

689
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:21.079
<v Speaker 1>these creatures exist. I am one convinced that they're real.

690
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>But here's the question that always comes up with the skeptics.

691
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>You're a longtime investigator, You've had tons of experiences and encounters.

692
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:28.880
<v Speaker 2>With these things.

693
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>How do you deal with that as an investigator? When

694
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the questions come of where are the bodies? Why is

695
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:38.360
<v Speaker 1>there no video? Why is there no photographs? Why haven't

696
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>we proven that these creatures exist? How do you deal

697
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 1>with that as an investigator when you have those kind

698
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of conversations with folks.

699
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 2>My first rule of some is one, I don't try

700
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 2>to convince anybody. I believe in my credibility, my intager.

701
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 2>So if a person trusts me, then what I'm telling

702
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 2>them they can trust when I'm telling That's how I

703
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 2>look gap because I get ridiculed at work all the time.

704
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 2>They talked a bunch of trash when I won a

705
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:06.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of days off there. When I'm I'm going research,

706
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm going bigfoot research. They have no problem with it.

707
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.199
<v Speaker 2>What I tell people is this, especially with why don't

708
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.920
<v Speaker 2>we have footage of one? I tell them we do.

709
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, the best foot is that you will ever

710
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 2>see was taken in nineteen sixty seven with Roger Patterson.

711
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Go look at that. You have a female. I'll always

712
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.519
<v Speaker 2>remind him. Remember this is nineteen sixty seven and you

713
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:34.400
<v Speaker 2>have a creature that you see muscle mass, muscle movement, breast.

714
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 2>The closest thing they could get to that was Tobacca

715
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:43.039
<v Speaker 2>and Star wars, there's nothing even close to that. They're

716
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:47.719
<v Speaker 2>still trying to prove that fake to this day and

717
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:53.119
<v Speaker 2>they cannot. Now, we got plenty of video evidence of sisquatch,

718
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, we got plenty of evidence

719
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.800
<v Speaker 2>of fakes out there. A video, a picture taken today

720
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 2>does nobody any good except for the person that took it,

721
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 2>because you got so many fakes out there. If I

722
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 2>took a picture of one or one of my expeditions,

723
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.239
<v Speaker 2>you would believe me because you know who I am.

724
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:13.880
<v Speaker 4>You know me.

725
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>But if you didn't know me and I took the

726
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.920
<v Speaker 2>same picture, you would chop it up as faith. So

727
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>we have the evidence, we have the footprints, we have

728
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:26.360
<v Speaker 2>the hair samp. But when they send the hair sample

729
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.840
<v Speaker 2>off and it comes back unknown primate. The key word

730
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:33.360
<v Speaker 2>in that is primate. So that's telling you we have

731
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.599
<v Speaker 2>a primate that the next part to that is unknown.

732
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.239
<v Speaker 2>That's telling you that there's something out there that is

733
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.599
<v Speaker 2>a primate that's not classified yet it doesn't have a

734
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:46.119
<v Speaker 2>super long name attached to prime to say this is

735
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>what this is. So we have that there is a

736
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>plethora evidence out there. It's up to you to accept it.

737
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:56.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to try to talk again to believing

738
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 2>it or not. I like to take you out there

739
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 2>with me one time. If you're experien something, I'm gonna

740
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 2>laugh first or see your reaction. But yeah, I don't

741
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 2>try to convince them. They'll come up with how there

742
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 2>ain't no bodies finding the woods and stuff? Go tell

743
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 2>find you a wirrelbody in the woods, find you a

744
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 2>dead bird in the woods. Find me any and what

745
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you see every day? Find it in the woods for me.

746
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>We got putting your woods around here, Go find one.

747
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.639
<v Speaker 2>It causes them to think them they'll start what about?

748
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.960
<v Speaker 2>What about? And when they start with the wood abouts,

749
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:28.320
<v Speaker 2>then we're going somewhere. I love it. I have to ask.

750
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>This is one of those things that comes up on

751
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the show all the time. I have to ask if

752
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you had any weird experiences because you seem like I

753
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 1>don't want to put words in your mouth. But I

754
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:40.559
<v Speaker 1>am in the flesh and blood camp. I think these

755
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 1>things are flesh and blood creature. I'm not in the

756
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 1>high strangeness in the woo camp. But people do have

757
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of weird experiences. They see lights, they see orbs,

758
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.639
<v Speaker 1>They have weird experiences. Sometimes at the same time they're

759
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:58.639
<v Speaker 1>having sasquatch encounters and activity. Have you had anything weird

760
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>happen to you in the woods, and how do you

761
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 1>deal with that as an investigator? Are you in the

762
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 1>flesh and blood camp? If so, how do you deal

763
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>with some of the other strange things that people encounter

764
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 1>doing sasquatch field research? And how do you as an

765
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>investigator rationalize that for yourself.

766
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.559
<v Speaker 2>I come from a biblical approach to it. I'm believe

767
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>that sasquatch is a flesh and blood creature, just like

768
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 2>a deer is a flesh and blood creature. But if

769
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 2>you go to Gettysburg, that paunted ground up there, you

770
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 2>have a deer that's there. We know it's there, but

771
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 2>you might have a ghost in the background looking at it,

772
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 2>or some kind of overflying around. I think Southbuck is

773
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>lumped into that with it. Now, I have had some

774
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 2>stuff that I can't explain, for example, following the track

775
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>line and it just vanished. Okay, when that happens, I

776
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 2>don't attribute that to any kind of special thing. If

777
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>something's happened, I don't don't know about it. I don't

778
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 2>know what happened to the track. I don't know. So

779
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 2>now I don't flicked to say that. I don't know.

780
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 2>We looked around, nothing was there. But I steal one

781
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent believe we're talking about a five peeple prime

782
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 2>eate that is just not yet discovered now could yet

783
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>project its voice that for to do something like that,

784
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 2>that's a possibility. That's a big creature with big lungs

785
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.920
<v Speaker 2>waiting them. Take that back, let me rewind. Oh, no, expedition.

786
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>About a year ago, I seen an orb in the

787
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.239
<v Speaker 2>woods what I believe wasn't or because I saw a

788
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.440
<v Speaker 2>light and it was just there and there was no

789
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>reason for it to be there, and I'm watching it,

790
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, is that the light's not leaving? What is that?

791
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So it was there, but I honestly believe that's I

792
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 2>take a biblical approach to that. So when we're dealing

793
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 2>with the wood, we're dealing with the spiritual aspect of things. However,

794
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 2>when you're dealing with bigfoot, I don't see a problem

795
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>with bigfoot being there and spiritual stuff being there too.

796
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Just like a deer can be there and spiritual stuff

797
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.079
<v Speaker 2>can be there too. We can be at home and

798
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.039
<v Speaker 2>have spiritual stuff happen. You know what, I'm saying that

799
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:14.599
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make us lou or hav any special abilities. But

800
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 2>stuff is happening. I don't discredit to not strain us

801
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.599
<v Speaker 2>because the way I believe is there's a lot of

802
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:24.679
<v Speaker 2>things happening in these days that's going to ramp up

803
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:29.119
<v Speaker 2>from a spiritual perspective there. But I don't believe Bigfoot

804
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>is part of that. It's just happening in his environment,

805
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:35.360
<v Speaker 2>just like it happens in ours.

806
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.039
<v Speaker 1>All right, last question, Tony, are you still going out

807
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:40.760
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you are. You were out on an

808
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.280
<v Speaker 1>investigation a year ago. Are you still going to the

809
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.199
<v Speaker 1>same area You're still going out there? What is the

810
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 1>motivation for you after having all these encounters and experiences

811
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.599
<v Speaker 1>with these creatures? What motivates you to keep going out

812
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>into the woods? If you're going out in the same area,

813
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>are you seeing a difference in the type of activity

814
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>that you were seeing maybe back in nineteen eighty nine,

815
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:05.039
<v Speaker 1>versus you might go out next week and experience something

816
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>with these creatures. Are you seeing a difference there?

817
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:11.639
<v Speaker 2>So, I haven't been back out there since twenty seventeen.

818
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>To Taylor's rid, I do want to get back out there.

819
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Speaker 2>The reason why I have not life happened for me,

820
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:19.320
<v Speaker 2>got away from it for a while. Like I said,

821
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 2>the two founders of that team member they had passed

822
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.880
<v Speaker 2>away the team. We had a lot of older members.

823
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:26.880
<v Speaker 2>How we went up The last time I lector was

824
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.679
<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen and a storm had come through and changed

825
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.599
<v Speaker 2>the whole landscape out there. I do want to go

826
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:37.679
<v Speaker 2>back up there to see if there's anything still there,

827
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:40.960
<v Speaker 2>anything's happening. The last time I knew and that's how

828
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I checked this, the mountain was open to the public.

829
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.360
<v Speaker 2>We had a lot of hikers going through in our

830
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 2>ladder times. We had people on horseback riding through the camp.

831
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<v Speaker 2>We had people on trip. It was very publicized where

832
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<v Speaker 2>before they should shut the whole mountain down for.

833
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<v Speaker 1>Us and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

834
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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>But now everybody's up there, so I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>go up there to see if these preachers are still

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<v Speaker 2>there or if they have been moved on to another

838
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:14.719
<v Speaker 2>location or something. So we're not going to that area,

839
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm with two new teams. One team studies High Strange,

840
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>which is ASoft, and the other team Seekers. We studied sisquats,

841
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 2>but we worked together. So I still go out. Like

842
00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, I got away from it for a couple

843
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 2>of years. Life happened for me. Bigfoot wasn't paying the bills,

844
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.119
<v Speaker 2>so I had to make some adjustment. But I had

845
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<v Speaker 2>two guys we were at work talking about Bigfoot and

846
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:42.159
<v Speaker 2>they were gung ho about wanting to go out. I'm

847
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:46.559
<v Speaker 2>back out, going for it again. But I do it now.

848
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy the people. I enjoy sharing my experiences, I

849
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<v Speaker 2>enjoy past on knowledge. Just really the camaraderie that's here now,

850
00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 2>because back when I started, you didn't have a Bigfoot

851
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 2>community you got. Now this is just blowing up, and

852
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 2>it's really neat to see where we were researching to

853
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:10.320
<v Speaker 2>what it is now and how many people is out

854
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.519
<v Speaker 2>there and how many people is doing it. I was

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<v Speaker 2>telling another guy, I was like, we already have the evidence.

856
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<v Speaker 2>We already have the evidence. We know what these preachers are,

857
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<v Speaker 2>we know what their habits are, we know what they eat,

858
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.239
<v Speaker 2>we know what they look like, we can define the species.

859
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<v Speaker 2>We have the evidence. It's just we're waiting for science

860
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<v Speaker 2>to say, Okay, this is here. So I guess that's

861
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<v Speaker 2>what motivates me. Is wanting to be there when they say, yeah,

862
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.679
<v Speaker 2>you guys got a point. This thing is real. I

863
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 2>really enjoy just being out in the woods, being out

864
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:51.639
<v Speaker 2>research and being out with my friends because I've met

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<v Speaker 2>some great people since i've been back doing it and

866
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<v Speaker 2>it's just been awesome. So that's what keeps me going.

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<v Speaker 2>Who doesn't like being in the woods just camping? The

868
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.039
<v Speaker 2>big Foot's just the cherry on top. You're out there,

869
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<v Speaker 2>you're just kicking back. Then it doesn't scare me. And

870
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I always wanted to hear that foggy creech holler. I've

871
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.800
<v Speaker 2>always wanted to hear that. I've yet to hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep going out in the woods, my friend. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>it happens for you. Tony.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on the show man.

875
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<v Speaker 1>It has been an honor and a pleasure to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on. I feel like you're one of the ogs.

877
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.719
<v Speaker 1>You've been doing this for so long, and just having

878
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 1>you on the show and sharing your experiences and your

879
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:34.239
<v Speaker 1>knowledge to all the people that are going to listen

880
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<v Speaker 1>to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. I

882
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.159
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed your show. I'll listen to your show today. I

883
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.599
<v Speaker 2>really enjoy your platform and what y'all are doing. It's awesome.

884
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>We need that in this community. We need that because

885
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 2>there's a credibility to your show. I definitely appreciate it,

886
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<v Speaker 2>my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>They say, you.

888
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<v Speaker 5>Don't got to go home, but you can't stay.

889
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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't want to feel all we're all happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Science trying to try that chart everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Call it ride back right back joy from me. Need

892
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<v Speaker 4>joy staying right, call it right away.

893
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<v Speaker 3>Still stay stass, stist.

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<v Speaker 4>Not assistsssssss uss