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Speaker 1: I got to sit down with Tony from Georgia. Tony
Speaker 1: has been researching an area for decades. It's about ten
Speaker 1: miles from where I grew up in northwest Georgia, up
Speaker 1: on Taylor's Ridge and Jenkins Gap. If you guys have
Speaker 1: read Sasquatch Unleashed The Truth behind the Legend, my new book,
Speaker 1: you know that I've included a story there from nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy seven, mister Brown, the Jensen Hunter, was up on
Speaker 1: the mountain and came face to face with one of
Speaker 1: these creatures. Tony tells that story because that's one of
Speaker 1: the stories he grew up hearing and it got him
Speaker 1: interested in Sasquatch research. So we had so many synchronicities.
Speaker 1: This was a fantastic interview. Tony's had a ton of
Speaker 1: amazing experiences. I know you guys are going to enjoy
Speaker 1: it as much as I did. If you haven't read
Speaker 1: my new book, Sasquatch Unleashed the Truth behind the Legend.
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Speaker 1: notes as well. But enough of that. I know you
Speaker 1: guys are ready to get into it. Tony's on the line,
Speaker 1: He's ready to go. All this is left for you
Speaker 1: to do is sit back, relax and enjoy the show.
Speaker 1: All right, folks on welcome our guest to the show.
Speaker 1: It is Tony from Georgia. Welcome to the show, sir.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's good to be here.
Speaker 1: I am excited about this conversation. You are from my
Speaker 1: old stomping grounds. I was born and raised in the
Speaker 1: area of Rome, Georgia. I saw you on another podcast
Speaker 1: with Doug and Alex over on Untold Radio. You started
Speaker 1: talking about some of the things that were making my
Speaker 1: ears perk up, about being back home and some of
Speaker 1: your experiences. We'll certainly get into all of that, but
Speaker 1: before we do, I want to start where I start
Speaker 1: with most people. What got you interested in the subject
Speaker 1: to Bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Begin with Okay, Bigfoot has been, I want to say,
Speaker 2: a part of my life, but not as in the
Speaker 2: research aspect of it. From a kid. I'm fifty three
Speaker 2: years old, so I was born in the seventies. So
Speaker 2: my first draw to Bigfoot was the Sid Marnycroft super
Speaker 2: show Bigfoot Wild Boy. That was one of my favorite
Speaker 2: Saturday morning shows. My dad would turn on to beat
Speaker 2: horror movies and that's where I saw the legend of Creed,
Speaker 2: Creature from Black Leg, Creature from the Black Lagoon. That
Speaker 2: is where my Bigfoot journey starts. It wasn't that I
Speaker 2: didn't believe it. I felt it was real from the start.
Speaker 2: I never had an issue with not believing it. I'd
Speaker 2: watch in search over Leonard Needmoy, the Sasquatch docuseries, and
Speaker 2: stuff that was on at that time that was intriguing.
Speaker 2: I never had an issue with does this thing exist?
Speaker 2: Because it would keep me out the woods sometime. I
Speaker 2: would stay away from dark patches in the woods because
Speaker 2: I believe that Bigfoot was real. It's never been an
Speaker 2: issue with me not being real. I never had that
Speaker 2: problem of not believing it growing up. I'm originally from Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: a little mining town called DeNora, Pennsylvania, part of the
Speaker 2: Mont Valley, about thirty miles south of Pittsburgh. We would
Speaker 2: be out and we'd be playing hide and go seek
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. We were told to be home
Speaker 2: before the street lights come on. There is a patch
Speaker 2: of woods by our house, rural but not rural. Is
Speaker 2: not city. It's almost like near in Hoganville, where it's
Speaker 2: just almost country. There was a rumor amongst us kids
Speaker 2: that there was a big white thing in woods. I
Speaker 2: couldn't tell you how it got started. I always would
Speaker 2: chalk that up as a ghost or something. Because my
Speaker 2: Dad would tell us ghost stories and all that. One
Speaker 2: night messed around there. I got thought after the street
Speaker 2: lights came on, it was dark. I had to walk
Speaker 2: past this patch of woods to get to my house.
Speaker 2: As I'm walking, I started hearing something walking my exact footsteps.
Speaker 2: I look over there, and I don't see nothing. I
Speaker 2: can just hear. When I would walk, it would walk.
Speaker 2: When I would stop, it would stop. I started walking
Speaker 2: a little faster. It walked with bastard. So I got
Speaker 2: the idea, I'm gonna walk really fast and stop all
Speaker 2: of a sudden and see what happens. So I did that,
Speaker 2: and when I stopped, I heard it overstep my steps.
Speaker 2: I just screamed bloody murder and just took off ran
Speaker 2: into the house. But I never saw anything. That was
Speaker 2: the only instance of any kind of vaut in the
Speaker 2: wood that's happened to me until I started my Bigfoot research.
Speaker 2: I guess at that time, I was probably around ten
Speaker 2: or eleven years old. Every time a documentary about Bigfoot
Speaker 2: would come on, I would watch it. I liked Bigfoot
Speaker 2: more than the Lockedness Monster. To me, I was more
Speaker 2: likely to see a Bigfoot than I would to Lockedness monster.
Speaker 2: That's where my bigfoot journey started right there.
Speaker 1: Very similar to a lot of people that I talked to.
Speaker 1: You can grow up, you become an adult, you get
Speaker 1: the opportunity to start going out and looking for these things.
Speaker 1: When did that flip for you? When did that switch
Speaker 1: go off for you?
Speaker 2: I never did want to do that, That's the funny thing.
Speaker 2: I guess. I was around eighty nine. I'd have been eighteen.
Speaker 2: I got a job in a convenced store. I worked
Speaker 2: third ship. Back then, at the time, I was living
Speaker 2: in Noon in Georgia. It was pretty much country. It
Speaker 2: wasn't built up like it is today. So I'm working
Speaker 2: third ship after midnight. You didn't get nobody coming in.
Speaker 2: There was no customers or nothing like that. I would
Speaker 2: play It's gonna sound weird coming from me, but I
Speaker 2: would play heavy metal music. That's what I listened to
Speaker 2: back then. I would have some younger kids my age
Speaker 2: come through and they would hear that playing, so they
Speaker 2: would stop start a conversation. It got to be where
Speaker 2: there was like four or five guys would come by
Speaker 2: every time I work. We would talk about paranormal stuff.
Speaker 2: We would talk about ghost, bigfoot, luckiness, monster music, we
Speaker 2: covered the whole gambit of anything we can think of
Speaker 2: about with strange or music wise. One of the guys
Speaker 2: he came in. He says, I know a guy that
Speaker 2: nunts for Bigfoot? Can he come up? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the extrame conversation. Now, prior to this, I've always believed
Speaker 2: they were there, but I hadn't looked into nothing. If
Speaker 2: the series came on, I would watch it, but there
Speaker 2: wasn't no research invall. So this guy he comes up.
Speaker 2: The team that he founded was Georgia Bigfoot Research and Investigation.
Speaker 2: He comes up. He came up for a month or so.
Speaker 2: We'd talk a little bit and he'd tell us some
Speaker 2: stories and stuff like that. He asked if we wanted
Speaker 2: to go. I said, no, I don't need to go.
Speaker 2: That sit there. I believe it exists. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: ain't got to prove nothing to nobody. I believe it exists.
Speaker 2: But there were two other dudes that were have a
Speaker 2: bit about going. They were go, ho, they're going to go.
Speaker 2: So over time they kept trying to get me to go.
Speaker 2: This is probably around in June and the expedition was
Speaker 2: set for October. How they would go it would be
Speaker 2: fall like early to mid fall to early to mid
Speaker 2: spray is when they would go up there. They kept
Speaker 2: talking to me and everything and trying to get me
Speaker 2: to go. I'll not go. I do not need to go,
Speaker 2: as he was looking for this thing. So finally they said,
Speaker 2: during this time, I would go over this guy's house
Speaker 2: and he would show me off resources that they had,
Speaker 2: off footprints, stuff on the computer. They were looking up
Speaker 2: and stuff. So it was really intrigue and I spoke
Speaker 2: if they'd go out go, I said, but I'm going
Speaker 2: by myself. They go, I'll go. So it came time
Speaker 2: to go, they never went. I went. That's what kicked
Speaker 2: it off. That's when I found out about the guy.
Speaker 2: I can't think of his name now, but he went
Speaker 2: up there to look for GenZ. Him and his friend
Speaker 2: would go up there picked gen Z. His friend got sick,
Speaker 2: told him I'll come up there later. So he goes
Speaker 2: up he's picking his Gensen. Then he cut movement out
Speaker 2: the corner of his eye and he thought it was
Speaker 2: his friend, so he voluntaried him over here. So he
Speaker 2: goes back to doing what he's doing, and he realized
Speaker 2: that his friends should have got there by now. When
Speaker 2: he realized that. He said, the hair's in the back
Speaker 2: of his neck stood up when he looked this thing
Speaker 2: was standing there looking at Although he was wanting to run,
Speaker 2: he couldn't. He just ve a lot. Did they run?
Speaker 2: It walked up the revie. The funny thing about that
Speaker 2: is it walked with a limp. It walked and drug
Speaker 2: its foot behind that right there. Would initially got that
Speaker 2: group up there to research because it involved the Chattuga
Speaker 2: County Sheriff's Department, the Georgia Forestry Commission at that time,
Speaker 2: they would actually shut down Taylor's Bridge while we were
Speaker 2: their research. We had to have a gate key and
Speaker 2: we had to go to the Georgia forest Fory Commission
Speaker 2: to pick up the key. To come back. We had
Speaker 2: to lock the gate behind us and all that stuff there.
Speaker 2: So we had that whole mountain to ourselves to research
Speaker 2: for that weekend. It was I want to say the second,
Speaker 2: cossibly third trip is where I saw my first footprint. Now,
Speaker 2: when I saw my first footprint, that had an effect
Speaker 2: on me like people would see their first preacher, because
Speaker 2: when they see their first preacher, they're trying to rationalize
Speaker 2: what am I seeing. I never had that problem because
Speaker 2: I always believe they were there anyway. But when I
Speaker 2: saw my first footprint, it was what I believe became
Speaker 2: a reality. Now. It was like to me, it was
Speaker 2: a holy brill I steal. When I see a footprint,
Speaker 2: I get idiot. It has me where I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's just that belief. When I saw that print became
Speaker 2: a reality. It cemented sidequatch for me. On my first trip,
Speaker 2: I got changed by mountain line. I was in between two.
Speaker 2: There was a guy about fifty fifty feet ahead of me.
Speaker 2: There was a guy fifty feet behind me. We were
Speaker 2: going out at night and I was in the middle.
Speaker 2: Didn't have a gun or nothing. I hear it coming,
Speaker 2: they said, dah, So I just dropped to the ground.
Speaker 2: They put them shot at it. It took off back
Speaker 2: up the hill. That was my first time going up there,
Speaker 2: being out there in the woods, being out in the researching.
Speaker 2: That had me looked right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like a great way to start off
Speaker 1: your research, getting chased by a mountain lit finding your
Speaker 1: first footprint. I can certainly relate to because I've had
Speaker 1: experiences recently that have taken me to a new level
Speaker 1: with Bigfoot. But finding my first footprint here on our
Speaker 1: property in North Carolina.
Speaker 2: We have forty acres out here.
Speaker 1: I bought it specifically hoping that there might be some activity,
Speaker 1: and it has not disappointed. We found plenty of things here,
Speaker 1: and finding that first footprint is it's like the Holy Grail.
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's one of those things where, whether
Speaker 1: you believe or not, when you find that fi, that's
Speaker 1: a cool evidence of something being here. It's not your print,
Speaker 1: it's not anybody else's print that's around that area, because
Speaker 1: either there's not people like us here. There's only two
Speaker 1: people who live on forty acres, nobody else's I know,
Speaker 1: because you live in an area in Georgia that's pretty rural,
Speaker 1: and you understand where you don't end up on other
Speaker 1: people's property uninvited. In these kind of area there's sad
Speaker 1: thinging and flower bringing if that happens. Because everybody here
Speaker 1: has guns and you just don't trespass on other people's properties.
Speaker 1: The fact that somebody's coming on here and hoaxing me
Speaker 1: is not even a possibility. So I certainly relate to
Speaker 1: the footprint thing. Let's talk about Obviously, you're hooked, you're
Speaker 1: into this when did you start having your first experiences
Speaker 1: and what was your first experience with these creatures.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna tell a story. It's going to cover
Speaker 2: a few years because it sounds like it's like back
Speaker 2: to back. But there was plenty of time when we
Speaker 2: would go up there and nothing would happen. It would
Speaker 2: just be a camping trip. And now other times you
Speaker 2: would have medio grabh activity at other times and you
Speaker 2: couldn't even sleep that night. So my first interaction with
Speaker 2: a creature would be when we were around the campfire,
Speaker 2: just sitting there. They would come circle the camp. Now
Speaker 2: we have been up there enough. Now I believe this
Speaker 2: about bigfoot. They get familiar with you, They learn your
Speaker 2: routine and know what they can and cannot do. What
Speaker 2: one of our routines was when they would come around,
Speaker 2: not to jump up and go after they've just ignored it.
Speaker 2: Make them think we're ignoring them or don't hear them.
Speaker 2: They would come around and circle the camp and get
Speaker 2: just outside of the light radis. You would get a
Speaker 2: glimmer of eye shine. From time to time you would
Speaker 2: definitely hear trees breaking and them shuffling, kicking a rock
Speaker 2: or two. It would get sometime when we would completely
Speaker 2: ignore them, just keep talking loud, and they would throw
Speaker 2: something in the buyer like they were wanting us to
Speaker 2: acknowledge them to some degree. They would throw a little
Speaker 2: rock or branch in the buyer or something like that
Speaker 2: to make it blow up. So that would be my
Speaker 2: first interaction with him.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: Now. My first encounter I chased one. We were going
Speaker 2: down into Jenkins Gap. There was me and two others.
Speaker 2: Jenkins Gap when you to go down into the actual gap,
Speaker 2: which is it goes down Ope's up till field, so
Speaker 2: you have to go. You're going side to side going
Speaker 2: down this ravine and you come up to this fields.
Speaker 2: We'd get down this field and we're walking and we're
Speaker 2: looking for tracks and stuff. This is probably about three
Speaker 2: o'clock in the afternoon. The sun's out. I'm looking down,
Speaker 2: but I happened to look up and I see this
Speaker 2: thing take off. When I saw that, I didn't even think.
Speaker 2: I just took off after I can see it going
Speaker 2: through trees and it's keeping ahead of me. I'm not
Speaker 2: catching up to it, but it's not outrunning me. Either
Speaker 2: the other two. What happened to them? They didn't even
Speaker 2: holler or I didn't hear them, But I'm gone. When
Speaker 2: it ran thor up where I didn't see it no
Speaker 2: more so. When I didn't see it, I stopped. It
Speaker 2: was just silent. The wind wasn't blowing, birds, wasn't turbing.
Speaker 2: It was definitely silent. I just followed out, Listen, I'm
Speaker 2: not running no more. I'm not running back to camp.
Speaker 2: If you choose to follow me, that's okay, but I'm
Speaker 2: not running. And I backed up, turned around, and I
Speaker 2: walked back to camp. You could hear them. I was
Speaker 2: chasing one, but there was more than one down there,
Speaker 2: and you could hear them following me back to camp.
Speaker 2: When I got about one hundred to fifty yards out
Speaker 2: side of camp, they stopped. I got back to camp.
Speaker 2: I said, we're gonna have an eventful night tonight. That
Speaker 2: was my first encounter. My second encounter happened probably year
Speaker 2: or two later, same area, but it was a location
Speaker 2: that we called the swamp. It wasn't up on Jenkin's Gap.
Speaker 2: There was another location in that region we called the swamp,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't like it was a small beer area.
Speaker 2: It was just a creek ran along the little trail there,
Speaker 2: and we called the Salt just because it was wet
Speaker 2: on this particular time. We wasn't on the next edition.
Speaker 2: We were just it was a good place to camp.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful place to camp up there. So we
Speaker 2: went up there to camp. It was me, my ex wife,
Speaker 2: my son he was probably three years old at the time,
Speaker 2: my stepdad, and my stepmom. My ex stepfather he was
Speaker 2: the actual founder and his brother were founders of this group.
Speaker 2: We're up there and we're talking. It's getting late and everything.
Speaker 2: The women was wanting to go to bed. This is
Speaker 2: probably about nine, getting close to nine ten o'clock. They
Speaker 2: were wanting to go to bess. We was okay, so
Speaker 2: because we were loud, laughing and cutting up, so we said,
Speaker 2: go down to the creek and talk. How this freak went.
Speaker 2: Was it creekd ran and then the past went and
Speaker 2: it curved and it come down on the creek. So
Speaker 2: we're walking and we get into the bin. As we're
Speaker 2: getting into the bind, this thing steps out and it
Speaker 2: doesn't step out onto the trail. It steps to the
Speaker 2: edge of the woods, like right to the edge I
Speaker 2: don't know if it didn't hear us, because we didn't
Speaker 2: hear it coming up. We were laughing and talking. I
Speaker 2: can see it starts doing this number. You can see
Speaker 2: the eye shine reflecting off of the camp. It's doing this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the heck is there? He's looking eye
Speaker 2: level at it. When he finally looks up, he goes
Speaker 2: to drolls gun, which I stopped him from shooting because
Speaker 2: you can hear other ones in the background. So we're
Speaker 2: looking at it, it's looking at us. Then it just
Speaker 2: turns and this time you've heard it walk off. In
Speaker 2: another instance, I didn't see one, but this was the
Speaker 2: same area because we had went back probably about a
Speaker 2: month later, we went back there to research that area,
Speaker 2: this time because of what we saw that previous. It's
Speaker 2: a Saturday more morning. It's about ten o'clock. Everybody goes
Speaker 2: back to the store to pick up some supply and stuff.
Speaker 2: I made camp by myself. I decide to get get
Speaker 2: in the tenth take a quick wash off, so I'm
Speaker 2: all soap up. Start hearing I just I dropped my head.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, that needs to be an out,
Speaker 2: So I keep going and then I hear it again.
Speaker 2: And then when every time it's getting closer and there's
Speaker 2: there's one here, do you hear one behind you? And
Speaker 2: do you hear one side and they're closing in, I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh no, I hurry up and get washed off real quick.
Speaker 2: And I went and sat in the car till they
Speaker 2: got there. I'm not fixing to get caught in that.
Speaker 1: The more I've put myself in places where I believe
Speaker 1: these creatures are, the more experiences I've had. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about some of the other experiences that you've had. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the rock throwing and the stick throwing and those
Speaker 1: kind of things. That's something that I've experienced. I went
Speaker 1: on expedition last year up in Radium, BC, Canada. I
Speaker 1: was out with Todd standing for a week there and
Speaker 1: I had some amazing experiences. Didn't see a creature then,
Speaker 1: but I'd had rocks thrown at me, I experienced what
Speaker 1: sounded like samurai chatter, and you're hearing the Sierra sounds
Speaker 1: and some other weird experiences with tree knocks and other things.
Speaker 1: How many of those kind of experiences, as far as
Speaker 1: vocalizations outside of what you just described, were you hearing
Speaker 1: vocalizations in that area. Were you finding tree structures, Were
Speaker 1: you guys finding rock stacks, were you getting wood knocks?
Speaker 1: What are some of the other things that you guys
Speaker 1: experienced outside of obviously seeing these creatures.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't until later that we started getting tree structures.
Speaker 2: It wasn't me. They were very few and far between
Speaker 2: what we've document up. There were eight different creatures. I
Speaker 2: believe it was a family clan that traveled through there.
Speaker 2: They didn't stay there, they were traveling through. We didn't
Speaker 2: get any vocalizations other than your bo grunt you'd hear
Speaker 2: every now and again, but no howls. We tried tree knocking.
Speaker 2: I haven't experienced any tree knocking up there. The closest
Speaker 2: vocalization I got where we were going back down into
Speaker 2: Jenkin's Gap and this was probably ten years after the
Speaker 2: chase happened. We were going back down there. As we
Speaker 2: got into the second bind, we heard a tree being
Speaker 2: pushed over. That was the only time I ever drew
Speaker 2: my gun, So that to me, that was in the gresh.
Speaker 2: There's no wind, there's no reason for a tree to
Speaker 2: be pushed over or follow So I drew my gun
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I looked at my partner said, you
Speaker 2: want to go down there and check that. He said, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go. So we walked on down there and we
Speaker 2: seen were the tree. It was still a lie, but
Speaker 2: it was plopbout that big and I don't know if
Speaker 2: you see about that bigger mp and you could see
Speaker 2: the roofs and everything, how it was just pushed over.
Speaker 2: We looked no footprints. We walked around that whole area,
Speaker 2: no footprints. I sat on the decided that had the
Speaker 2: roots on it, and he sat on the fore side
Speaker 2: down there, and we were sitting there trying to contemplate
Speaker 2: what could have pushed this tree over or if it
Speaker 2: just was naturally fell. While we're sitting there, right next
Speaker 2: to my ear, I hear look just like that. It
Speaker 2: was strong enough to where it like I can feel
Speaker 2: the wind when it happened. I looked at him and
Speaker 2: he looked at me and I said, did you hear that?
Speaker 2: He said, yeah. The funny thing is he said it
Speaker 2: sounded like it was right next to him too. We
Speaker 2: looked and we're looking a ring on. Didn't hear nothing
Speaker 2: come up, didn't hear nothing leave, didn't see anything. But
Speaker 2: it only happened that one time. That is the only
Speaker 2: vocalization that I physically heard right there, other than just
Speaker 2: the I would hear a grunt. That vocalization sounded different
Speaker 2: than the grunts we would hear when they're walking through.
Speaker 2: It was like, because the grunts we would hear, I
Speaker 2: be like, like they're walking and you know how misstep
Speaker 2: and you like that. That's what those drusts sounded like.
Speaker 2: They would only throw rocks when we were ignoring. They
Speaker 2: were strategic. They were throwing roughs, not just rocks in
Speaker 2: the camp, but they would throw rocks in the fire.
Speaker 2: It was precise in the fire. Anything they would throw ass,
Speaker 2: they would throw it in the fire.
Speaker 1: You mentioned a couple of things I want to talk
Speaker 1: about here because this is something and I'm dancing around
Speaker 1: because the project that I was involved in just a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, where I had so many experiences that
Speaker 1: I want to talk about. I'm under an NDA until
Speaker 1: this project comes out, so I can't really get into
Speaker 1: it deeply. But I want to talk about something that
Speaker 1: really has stuck out to me recently. Is eye shine
Speaker 1: versus eye glow. You mentioned seeing eye shine a couple
Speaker 1: of times. I've talked to people that have had encounters
Speaker 1: with these things, and they describe self illuminating eyes versus eyeshine.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about what you guys have experienced. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you've seen eye shine from the fire, I'm assuming other
Speaker 1: ambient light sources. Have you ever seen anything that you
Speaker 1: would consider to be self illuminating eyes or has it
Speaker 1: always just been run of the mill as a large
Speaker 1: hairy bipedal ape in the woods can be in North America?
Speaker 1: Are you seeing eyeshine versus eye glow or do you
Speaker 1: think there could be something else.
Speaker 2: Going on there? All right, so I can't say I've
Speaker 2: seen eye glow because every time I've seen their eyes shining,
Speaker 2: there has been a light source reflecting. Now, depending on
Speaker 2: what the LFE source is, that determines what the color
Speaker 2: of the eye shine is. Because I've kicked one in
Speaker 2: the face just a mag light and it's just a
Speaker 2: white yellowish coat. The fire like the campfire, just a
Speaker 2: direct campfire light. It flickers and you'll have deep orange,
Speaker 2: almost reddish color. If it's standing there looking long enough,
Speaker 2: you'll see it its eyeful be flickering like the fire.
Speaker 2: I've seen emmil green, bright white or red yellow, all
Speaker 2: of it was dependent upon the light. I've never seen
Speaker 2: them self illuminate. There was one instance where we were
Speaker 2: set up two base camps. We had done something in
Speaker 2: what we believe was their feeding ground that got them
Speaker 2: stirred up. They would former USh one camp. They would
Speaker 2: come to that camp and just start running around, not
Speaker 2: throw anything, but just running around. We would call the
Speaker 2: other camp to come down and help when they would
Speaker 2: get there, then they would go to the ufther camp
Speaker 2: do the same thing. This night, we were running back
Speaker 2: and forth. If you got outside of the light radius,
Speaker 2: you can see them in the shadows, running and peeping
Speaker 2: behind trees. The moonlight plays a big part. We tried
Speaker 2: to go on full moons because you could see at
Speaker 2: night in the woods you could at least see the
Speaker 2: outlines in the shadows. Some tight We was sitting in
Speaker 2: the dark and just have our flashlights off see what
Speaker 2: we could see. You would see shadows and stuff running around.
Speaker 2: But I never saw any eyeshine when no light source
Speaker 2: was hitting them in the face. I know there has
Speaker 2: been reports of people seeing red glowing eyes, big saucer
Speaker 2: type eyes. Now their eyes are big, but sometimes I
Speaker 2: wonder there is a light source that they just may
Speaker 2: not see or be aware of it, or something like
Speaker 2: that that can be causing their eyes to reflect.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that you thought there was a clan of
Speaker 1: these things or a family of these things in that area.
Speaker 1: You guys were out there for decades doing this research.
Speaker 1: Did you find a pattern in when they.
Speaker 2: Were most active? Was it the fall, winter summer?
Speaker 1: If you could talk a little bit about that, and
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the prints that you guys
Speaker 1: have found up there. Were you finding different sized prints
Speaker 1: that led you to believe there may be bigger males, females,
Speaker 1: and some juveniles out in that area.
Speaker 2: The prints that we found, that's what determined that there
Speaker 2: were possibly eight different creatures up there than being a
Speaker 2: family clan. The biggest track that we found up there
Speaker 2: was twenty one inches. We didn't have enough plaster of
Speaker 2: past before we ran out of plaster of parish pour
Speaker 2: in a fifteen inch track. Now, the difference said is
Speaker 2: you had that big twenty one inch. Now we call
Speaker 2: him the old Man because we believe that's the one
Speaker 2: that the gentleman saw when he was picking Jedsen. We
Speaker 2: believe that's the one that he saw because there was
Speaker 2: definite evidence of one that was crippled. He was not
Speaker 2: always there. You didn't see him much. But this track
Speaker 2: we found was fifteen inches, and some of them had
Speaker 2: different characteristics. Some toes were longer than others. Like you've
Speaker 2: had two to fifteen inch track, one of them's toes
Speaker 2: will be longer than the other one. Just crazy stuff
Speaker 2: like that. The smallest one was thirteen inches. We assumed
Speaker 2: that was a jewnile one. We believe that they traveled
Speaker 2: through there. We went up there in the summertime, and
Speaker 2: we went up there wintertime. Absolutely nothing. We believed that
Speaker 2: they were coming from somewhere going through that location. We
Speaker 2: don't believe they lived there, but they went through there.
Speaker 2: The time that we had the most activity is when
Speaker 2: we would have so happened to interrupt their flow, because
Speaker 2: they said that there was nobody up there during that
Speaker 2: season right there. I boys believed that their pattern of
Speaker 2: travel was in the spring, they were coming through there,
Speaker 2: going to somewhere. In the fall, they were coming from
Speaker 2: wherever they went to in the spring, going back to
Speaker 2: where they were going. That's just what we believed was
Speaker 2: going on up there. The footprints we poured. Here's a
Speaker 2: sad thing. The two dudes that were over this tea.
Speaker 2: They both passed away at all of the evidence went
Speaker 2: with it. We had hair samples that didn't get sent off.
Speaker 2: We had footprints that I couldn't tell you what happened
Speaker 2: to them. And that twenty one inch track we so
Speaker 2: happened to find it, that was found by accident. So
Speaker 2: where we camped that we set up our base camp.
Speaker 2: It was off of the Spire Road, so we parked
Speaker 2: along the Spire Road. The last car was by a
Speaker 2: tree that we would go take a leak at. We'd
Speaker 2: packing up, get ready to head home. The girl back
Speaker 2: there of her car, she's putting her stuff bed and
Speaker 2: she hauls out. Hey, guys, Pepper, I look at this
Speaker 2: and we go back there and it is pretty twenty
Speaker 2: one inch track, it's about that deep in the ground.
Speaker 2: He had to weigh every bit of eight to nine
Speaker 2: hundred pounds. We had a dude there that weigh three fifty.
Speaker 2: He couldn't even scratch the service man. How many times
Speaker 2: did we go back there to take a leak? How
Speaker 2: many times? Because it was just outside the light radius,
Speaker 2: because we had women in the team, so we didn't
Speaker 2: want so it's just outside the light radius. It's back
Speaker 2: there by this tree. Just I think it easily to
Speaker 2: snatched us up and just we brought our team from
Speaker 2: the as a paranormal team. They mainly done research on
Speaker 2: ghosts and stuff, and I think they have one or
Speaker 2: two expeditions somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see we'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: And they had Nightfisch with him. This was the first
Speaker 2: time we had used Nightfitch because we didn't have the
Speaker 2: money for the technology that was out there, so we
Speaker 2: basically just had maglights. We even go out there in
Speaker 2: the woods look do our checking to see if anything's
Speaker 2: come through during the daytime. At night this wait for
Speaker 2: them to come to us, but then we would probably
Speaker 2: make them do stuff we can gather the evidence. This
Speaker 2: guy they had night vision, so we decided we're going
Speaker 2: to use this night vision. I had a camera, another
Speaker 2: team member had a camera, and that guy that actually
Speaker 2: brought this stuff he had like at the time was
Speaker 2: a third generation monocular night bitch. So we'd go out
Speaker 2: of base camp. Its first time we ever. Let this
Speaker 2: is the first time we didn't have anybody in base
Speaker 2: when we went out. We always had some life to
Speaker 2: stay back in base camp. So we go out. We're
Speaker 2: about one hundred yards outside of base camp. In each direction.
Speaker 2: The night vision camera that the other team had the
Speaker 2: battery went dead in it. Their battery goes dead. He
Speaker 2: comes over the radio. Well, he tells me, so I'll
Speaker 2: go get the batter. No big deal. He's done a
Speaker 2: night vision camera branch researcher. As he's walking back to
Speaker 2: base camp. He comes over the radio. His voice is shaken.
Speaker 2: He's I see it. It's standing right here. What do
Speaker 2: I do? I'm thinking shoot it. But's coming out and
Speaker 2: doing something. He was quivering his voice. He's gonna get me.
Speaker 2: So I take off running down there, and I'm trying
Speaker 2: to see through this night vision little window. I can't
Speaker 2: see nothing. I'm running through these woods. What I'm trying
Speaker 2: to do is save my teammate. I'm thinking of ways
Speaker 2: I can tackle this thing. So I'm running just full board,
Speaker 2: get to where I see him, and I see him
Speaker 2: pointing towards it. I'm trucking down through there and I
Speaker 2: get to where he's at. By this time, the other
Speaker 2: teammate comes up. It's down there. It's down there, So
Speaker 2: we take off down there, and I can't see much,
Speaker 2: so I finally just took him put it down because
Speaker 2: it was making me. I couldn't see. I was running
Speaker 2: in the stuff. So we get to the edge of
Speaker 2: this little ravine. Look at this, dude, listen, do you
Speaker 2: want to go down there? He's now that is too
Speaker 2: dark and it's too deep, and you can hear him
Speaker 2: scurrying down. So we come back up and Buddy is
Speaker 2: sitting on the ground, literally in tears shake. He was
Speaker 2: probably ten feet away from it because there was a
Speaker 2: tree there, and it was standing in front of the tree,
Speaker 2: just about on the road. As he was walking up
Speaker 2: the road, he walked to the edge of the road
Speaker 2: and you don't necessarily walk on in the middle of it.
Speaker 2: He walked right by, and he was glancing at it
Speaker 2: that night, and it was right there. The creature did
Speaker 2: not realize he was seen, so the creature didn't move.
Speaker 2: The guy is standing there with them didn't be to
Speaker 2: this thing. He's looking at it and the crew just
Speaker 2: looking at hill, and it didn't move. It just stood
Speaker 2: in there until he started pointing that when he started
Speaker 2: pointing at it and he heard me coming, it relaxed
Speaker 2: and I think That's what kind of scared him because
Speaker 2: it looked like it was coming at because it just
Speaker 2: hunched over like, turned and went down that ramine. We
Speaker 2: interviewed the map boards. He said it was built like
Speaker 2: very easily like. His description with it was easily like.
Speaker 2: It had big upper body but skinny legs. His upper
Speaker 2: body portion did not match his lower portion.
Speaker 1: Here's something else that I love talking to people who
Speaker 1: go into areas over and over again and deal with
Speaker 1: the same individuals. I think it's fascinating because there's so
Speaker 1: few people that get the opportunity to do that. A
Speaker 1: couple of people come to mind that the folks at Nawac,
Speaker 1: the North American wood a Conservancy out of Area X.
Speaker 1: There's people out in the Olympic Project, and there's guys
Speaker 1: like Shane and Randy Herrington or doing things in the
Speaker 1: four hundred, But you guys were dealing with these things
Speaker 1: over and over again. Here's one of the things that
Speaker 1: has always fascinated me about sasquatch research is people who
Speaker 1: claim that they are hit with, zapped with, or experience infrasound.
Speaker 1: That's something that any of you, yourself, or any of
Speaker 1: your teammates ever experienced while you guys have been out
Speaker 1: dealing with these things.
Speaker 2: Now, I've never experienced the infrasound. I believe they do
Speaker 2: it because large mammals have that. For examplehen your tigers,
Speaker 2: your big cats, they start purring. I believe these creatures
Speaker 2: have that. I think it's individually based. For example, I've
Speaker 2: never experienced it, but some of my teammates now, of
Speaker 2: course they've called it zap I like to say the infrasound.
Speaker 2: I believe it's a low frequency that just messles with
Speaker 2: your alert nervous system. I don't believe it's all purpose.
Speaker 2: I believe it's something that they just naturally do based
Speaker 2: on a particular circumstance, their rate of breathing. A lot
Speaker 2: of times it's been like an stresful situation that people
Speaker 2: are impacted by that. The bigger the creature, the stronger
Speaker 2: that infrasound will be. For example, if you take a
Speaker 2: lion cup, the infrasound, but it's not to the level
Speaker 2: of a whole grown lion that when they roar, things
Speaker 2: caused when the cup wars, nothing happens. And that's doesn't
Speaker 2: mean does it's not there. It's just not matured or
Speaker 2: developed to that level yet. So there's a couple of
Speaker 2: members on our team at that time that have experienced it,
Speaker 2: and what they've experienced was just like a day's type thing.
Speaker 2: They lose track of what they're doing. That's happened when
Speaker 2: creatures were a rent, not when they was, but when
Speaker 2: they were arount. So I fully believe in the Infrasunz.
Speaker 2: It's like said, I don't believe it's a directed thing
Speaker 2: because if that lotercasion I was chasing that one, I'd
Speaker 2: got sack, they'd have got me, but nothing.
Speaker 1: That would be a perfect time to use it, if
Speaker 1: they could use it in a direction to stop a thread.
Speaker 1: It's a very good point. I've never talked to anybody
Speaker 1: who's tried to chase one. It's a rare thing that
Speaker 1: people into the woods chasing.
Speaker 2: I've heard of negative encounters with these creatures, but for
Speaker 2: the most part, I have not for the most part
Speaker 2: that they've been docile. They've been curious, playful at times.
Speaker 2: I said, we were dealing with the same creatures for
Speaker 2: ten twenty years, so they knew what we were going
Speaker 2: to do. There was a familiarity there with them. Now
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of them, but I respect them. I
Speaker 2: tell people, listen, if I'm going in the woods and
Speaker 2: I know the the sisequas there, I'm good because I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna worry about bears, lives, all this other stuff
Speaker 2: out there trying to get because I do believe they'll
Speaker 2: cover you. If you out there you're just tooling the
Speaker 2: law and they're around. When some other animal tries to
Speaker 2: do something to you, I honestly believe they will cover
Speaker 2: you in that respect, run it off. And it's something
Speaker 2: that you may never even see or know even about,
Speaker 2: because you're just buying your old business. You don't know
Speaker 2: there's a wolf there. You don't know there may be
Speaker 2: a bear there. But these creatures do.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the naysayers in Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: the skeptical folks out there. I am a very skeptical person.
Speaker 1: I have certainly came a long way in believing that
Speaker 1: these creatures exist. I am one convinced that they're real.
Speaker 1: But here's the question that always comes up with the skeptics.
Speaker 1: You're a longtime investigator, You've had tons of experiences and encounters.
Speaker 2: With these things.
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that as an investigator? When
Speaker 1: the questions come of where are the bodies? Why is
Speaker 1: there no video? Why is there no photographs? Why haven't
Speaker 1: we proven that these creatures exist? How do you deal
Speaker 1: with that as an investigator when you have those kind
Speaker 1: of conversations with folks.
Speaker 2: My first rule of some is one, I don't try
Speaker 2: to convince anybody. I believe in my credibility, my intager.
Speaker 2: So if a person trusts me, then what I'm telling
Speaker 2: them they can trust when I'm telling That's how I
Speaker 2: look gap because I get ridiculed at work all the time.
Speaker 2: They talked a bunch of trash when I won a
Speaker 2: couple of days off there. When I'm I'm going research,
Speaker 2: I'm going bigfoot research. They have no problem with it.
Speaker 2: What I tell people is this, especially with why don't
Speaker 2: we have footage of one? I tell them we do.
Speaker 2: I said, the best foot is that you will ever
Speaker 2: see was taken in nineteen sixty seven with Roger Patterson.
Speaker 2: Go look at that. You have a female. I'll always
Speaker 2: remind him. Remember this is nineteen sixty seven and you
Speaker 2: have a creature that you see muscle mass, muscle movement, breast.
Speaker 2: The closest thing they could get to that was Tobacca
Speaker 2: and Star wars, there's nothing even close to that. They're
Speaker 2: still trying to prove that fake to this day and
Speaker 2: they cannot. Now, we got plenty of video evidence of sisquatch,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, we got plenty of evidence
Speaker 2: of fakes out there. A video, a picture taken today
Speaker 2: does nobody any good except for the person that took it,
Speaker 2: because you got so many fakes out there. If I
Speaker 2: took a picture of one or one of my expeditions,
Speaker 2: you would believe me because you know who I am.
Speaker 4: You know me.
Speaker 2: But if you didn't know me and I took the
Speaker 2: same picture, you would chop it up as faith. So
Speaker 2: we have the evidence, we have the footprints, we have
Speaker 2: the hair samp. But when they send the hair sample
Speaker 2: off and it comes back unknown primate. The key word
Speaker 2: in that is primate. So that's telling you we have
Speaker 2: a primate that the next part to that is unknown.
Speaker 2: That's telling you that there's something out there that is
Speaker 2: a primate that's not classified yet it doesn't have a
Speaker 2: super long name attached to prime to say this is
Speaker 2: what this is. So we have that there is a
Speaker 2: plethora evidence out there. It's up to you to accept it.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to try to talk again to believing
Speaker 2: it or not. I like to take you out there
Speaker 2: with me one time. If you're experien something, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: laugh first or see your reaction. But yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: try to convince them. They'll come up with how there
Speaker 2: ain't no bodies finding the woods and stuff? Go tell
Speaker 2: find you a wirrelbody in the woods, find you a
Speaker 2: dead bird in the woods. Find me any and what
Speaker 2: you see every day? Find it in the woods for me.
Speaker 2: We got putting your woods around here, Go find one.
Speaker 2: It causes them to think them they'll start what about?
Speaker 2: What about? And when they start with the wood abouts,
Speaker 2: then we're going somewhere. I love it. I have to ask.
Speaker 1: This is one of those things that comes up on
Speaker 1: the show all the time. I have to ask if
Speaker 1: you had any weird experiences because you seem like I
Speaker 1: don't want to put words in your mouth. But I
Speaker 1: am in the flesh and blood camp. I think these
Speaker 1: things are flesh and blood creature. I'm not in the
Speaker 1: high strangeness in the woo camp. But people do have
Speaker 1: a lot of weird experiences. They see lights, they see orbs,
Speaker 1: They have weird experiences. Sometimes at the same time they're
Speaker 1: having sasquatch encounters and activity. Have you had anything weird
Speaker 1: happen to you in the woods, and how do you
Speaker 1: deal with that as an investigator? Are you in the
Speaker 1: flesh and blood camp? If so, how do you deal
Speaker 1: with some of the other strange things that people encounter
Speaker 1: doing sasquatch field research? And how do you as an
Speaker 1: investigator rationalize that for yourself.
Speaker 2: I come from a biblical approach to it. I'm believe
Speaker 2: that sasquatch is a flesh and blood creature, just like
Speaker 2: a deer is a flesh and blood creature. But if
Speaker 2: you go to Gettysburg, that paunted ground up there, you
Speaker 2: have a deer that's there. We know it's there, but
Speaker 2: you might have a ghost in the background looking at it,
Speaker 2: or some kind of overflying around. I think Southbuck is
Speaker 2: lumped into that with it. Now, I have had some
Speaker 2: stuff that I can't explain, for example, following the track
Speaker 2: line and it just vanished. Okay, when that happens, I
Speaker 2: don't attribute that to any kind of special thing. If
Speaker 2: something's happened, I don't don't know about it. I don't
Speaker 2: know what happened to the track. I don't know. So
Speaker 2: now I don't flicked to say that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We looked around, nothing was there. But I steal one
Speaker 2: hundred percent believe we're talking about a five peeple prime
Speaker 2: eate that is just not yet discovered now could yet
Speaker 2: project its voice that for to do something like that,
Speaker 2: that's a possibility. That's a big creature with big lungs
Speaker 2: waiting them. Take that back, let me rewind. Oh, no, expedition.
Speaker 2: About a year ago, I seen an orb in the
Speaker 2: woods what I believe wasn't or because I saw a
Speaker 2: light and it was just there and there was no
Speaker 2: reason for it to be there, and I'm watching it,
Speaker 2: I'm like, is that the light's not leaving? What is that?
Speaker 2: So it was there, but I honestly believe that's I
Speaker 2: take a biblical approach to that. So when we're dealing
Speaker 2: with the wood, we're dealing with the spiritual aspect of things. However,
Speaker 2: when you're dealing with bigfoot, I don't see a problem
Speaker 2: with bigfoot being there and spiritual stuff being there too.
Speaker 2: Just like a deer can be there and spiritual stuff
Speaker 2: can be there too. We can be at home and
Speaker 2: have spiritual stuff happen. You know what, I'm saying that
Speaker 2: doesn't make us lou or hav any special abilities. But
Speaker 2: stuff is happening. I don't discredit to not strain us
Speaker 2: because the way I believe is there's a lot of
Speaker 2: things happening in these days that's going to ramp up
Speaker 2: from a spiritual perspective there. But I don't believe Bigfoot
Speaker 2: is part of that. It's just happening in his environment,
Speaker 2: just like it happens in ours.
Speaker 1: All right, last question, Tony, are you still going out
Speaker 1: It sounds like you are. You were out on an
Speaker 1: investigation a year ago. Are you still going to the
Speaker 1: same area You're still going out there? What is the
Speaker 1: motivation for you after having all these encounters and experiences
Speaker 1: with these creatures? What motivates you to keep going out
Speaker 1: into the woods? If you're going out in the same area,
Speaker 1: are you seeing a difference in the type of activity
Speaker 1: that you were seeing maybe back in nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 1: versus you might go out next week and experience something
Speaker 1: with these creatures. Are you seeing a difference there?
Speaker 2: So, I haven't been back out there since twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: To Taylor's rid, I do want to get back out there.
Speaker 2: The reason why I have not life happened for me,
Speaker 2: got away from it for a while. Like I said,
Speaker 2: the two founders of that team member they had passed
Speaker 2: away the team. We had a lot of older members.
Speaker 2: How we went up The last time I lector was
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen and a storm had come through and changed
Speaker 2: the whole landscape out there. I do want to go
Speaker 2: back up there to see if there's anything still there,
Speaker 2: anything's happening. The last time I knew and that's how
Speaker 2: I checked this, the mountain was open to the public.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of hikers going through in our
Speaker 2: ladder times. We had people on horseback riding through the camp.
Speaker 2: We had people on trip. It was very publicized where
Speaker 2: before they should shut the whole mountain down for.
Speaker 1: Us and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: But now everybody's up there, so I would like to
Speaker 2: go up there to see if these preachers are still
Speaker 2: there or if they have been moved on to another
Speaker 2: location or something. So we're not going to that area,
Speaker 2: but I'm with two new teams. One team studies High Strange,
Speaker 2: which is ASoft, and the other team Seekers. We studied sisquats,
Speaker 2: but we worked together. So I still go out. Like
Speaker 2: I said, I got away from it for a couple
Speaker 2: of years. Life happened for me. Bigfoot wasn't paying the bills,
Speaker 2: so I had to make some adjustment. But I had
Speaker 2: two guys we were at work talking about Bigfoot and
Speaker 2: they were gung ho about wanting to go out. I'm
Speaker 2: back out, going for it again. But I do it now.
Speaker 2: I enjoy the people. I enjoy sharing my experiences, I
Speaker 2: enjoy past on knowledge. Just really the camaraderie that's here now,
Speaker 2: because back when I started, you didn't have a Bigfoot
Speaker 2: community you got. Now this is just blowing up, and
Speaker 2: it's really neat to see where we were researching to
Speaker 2: what it is now and how many people is out
Speaker 2: there and how many people is doing it. I was
Speaker 2: telling another guy, I was like, we already have the evidence.
Speaker 2: We already have the evidence. We know what these preachers are,
Speaker 2: we know what their habits are, we know what they eat,
Speaker 2: we know what they look like, we can define the species.
Speaker 2: We have the evidence. It's just we're waiting for science
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, this is here. So I guess that's
Speaker 2: what motivates me. Is wanting to be there when they say, yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys got a point. This thing is real. I
Speaker 2: really enjoy just being out in the woods, being out
Speaker 2: research and being out with my friends because I've met
Speaker 2: some great people since i've been back doing it and
Speaker 2: it's just been awesome. So that's what keeps me going.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't like being in the woods just camping? The
Speaker 2: big Foot's just the cherry on top. You're out there,
Speaker 2: you're just kicking back. Then it doesn't scare me. And
Speaker 2: I always wanted to hear that foggy creech holler. I've
Speaker 2: always wanted to hear that. I've yet to hear that.
Speaker 2: Keep going out in the woods, my friend. I hope
Speaker 2: it happens for you. Tony.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show man.
Speaker 1: It has been an honor and a pleasure to have
Speaker 1: you on. I feel like you're one of the ogs.
Speaker 1: You've been doing this for so long, and just having
Speaker 1: you on the show and sharing your experiences and your
Speaker 1: knowledge to all the people that are going to listen
Speaker 1: to this.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. I
Speaker 2: enjoyed your show. I'll listen to your show today. I
Speaker 2: really enjoy your platform and what y'all are doing. It's awesome.
Speaker 2: We need that in this community. We need that because
Speaker 2: there's a credibility to your show. I definitely appreciate it,
Speaker 2: my friend.
Speaker 4: They say, you.
Speaker 5: Don't got to go home, but you can't stay.
Speaker 4: No, I don't want to feel all we're all happen.
Speaker 5: Science trying to try that chart everything.
Speaker 4: Call it ride back right back joy from me. Need
Speaker 4: joy staying right, call it right away.
Speaker 3: Still stay stass, stist.
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