Speaker 1: Welcome to the three Stories version the Todd Herman Show
is story number one aoc and the art of camorogenic emptiness,
Story number two do you have Trump Fatigue? And story
number three the Body of Christ versus fallen church bosses.
And by the way, that has some great news in it.
We'll talk about this all with the help of God Almighty.
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Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made, and these
are the times to which God has decided we shall live.
What happens when you announce an audition to have someone
run for Congress in the state of New York. That
happened a woman replied and came in and auditioned to
be a congresswoman. Her name is Alexandria Ocassia Cortes. What
were the standards they used in that, well, the top
one was are you camera jenic? There's the camera like you?
Can you read lines? Can you be emotionally convincing? In
other words, it was a lot like auditioning an actress.
One of the funny things about actors and actresses if
you ever meet some, some of them are relatively eloquent people.
Most of them are not. They're not the people you
see on screen because there's no lines written out for them. Now,
this should be relatively obvious, but you'd be surprised how
many people meet someone like that and say, Wow, they're
super stupid. They didn't have anything to say. They couldn't
relate at all. Right, where what the charm? Well, the
charm is manufactured. David Bowie said something really prescient and
right about stage performance. He says charisma is a trick
and Bowie knew what he was talking about because he
tricked a lot of people into loving him. I'm not
saying he was unlovable guy, but those people know him.
AOC Alexandria a Cossio Cortez has tricked a lot of
people into thinking she is something other than someone who
auditioned to be on camera. And we saw this past
week in AOC and the art of cameragenic emptiness. Here's
a sample of the cameragenic emptiness of AOC.
Speaker 3: And should the US actually commit US troops to defend
Taiwan if China were to move.
Speaker 4: You know, I think that this is such a you know,
I think that this is a This is of course,
a very long standing policy of the United States, and
I think what we are hoping for is that we
want to make sure that we never get to that point,
and we want to make sure that we are moving
in all of our economic research and our global positions
to avoid me such confrontation. And for that question to
even arise, Huh.
Speaker 1: What was the question again? Oh, that's right. It was
a policy question. It wasn't a question about do you
hope to avoid war? Of course, you hope to avoid war.
So she's met with a question at a security summit
they sent her to because when you're cammerogenetic, you get
to a point where the cammerogenic nature of yourself is
no longer useful and it begins to show itself for
what it is. But that's not the worst one. I
know that one got all the attention. It's not the
worst one. The other was where she talked about populism
and AOC is a populist. She was elected to Congress
because she won the popular votes in an audition to
be cambrogenic and appear to have an emotional connection to people.
So I'll show you this in a second. I'm wearing
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particularly if you are a Navy Seal or you're from
the sea family. In fact, I wore bone Frog around
the Navy seal wants to know a bone frog hat.
A guy named Dave Castro who runs the CrossFit games.
I wore it out to his ranch and we were talking,
and I could see that Dave kept looking up at
my cap, and he finally said, let me stop you
what about that hat? And I said, yeah, this is
a Navy Sealan company goes it better be? And I
said it is Tim Krukshank is his name. He was
a medic attached to the teams, did three deployments. He
was a buds instruct his crook Shank. I spelled it
for me. He says, okay, and I could see that
he was still hoping. See Dave is a Navy seal retired,
but he was and you don't wear this thing if
you don't know what this thing means. And people have
asked me, Hey, I see you wearing that. Do you
know what it means? Yes, that represents the fall in
the body of a fallen seal. So I wear this
stuff with the full knowledge i'd never served. I never
probably could have been a Navy seal. But I also
helped Tim because I love him and I love the coffee.
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Coffee is the name of the company. So when she
is on this a stage at this global security summit,
that was the one that got all the attention because
the elms and the ohs and there's people who actually
think she's presidential material, but she's failing the audition. This
one was to me far, far, far worse. In fact,
I took a text grab of this to make sure
that I actually hurt it the right way. This is
AOC talking about populism.
Speaker 4: I'll start last to first. You know, I think this
is a moment where we are seeing our presdential administration
tear apart, the Transatlantic partnership, rip up every democratic norm,
and you know, really calling into question, as was mentioned
by Dick Karney at the World Economic Forum, the rules
based order that we.
Speaker 1: Have or let's pause here for a second. Here's what
she said. I'd like to start last to first. You know,
I think this is a moment where we're seeing our
presidential administration tear apart, the transit partnership, rip up every
dinner deocratic norm, and you know, so really calling the
question as was i mentioned by Dick Karney at the
World Economic Forum, the rules based order that we have
or question mark do we have pause? Okay, pause. She
works next to a installed man in the White House
who allows Russia to invade Ukraine, that's a democratic norm,
who funded both sides of the war between Hamas and Israel,
who in fact, under Barack Obama, allows hundreds of billions
of our dollars to go to Iran who change the
rules of elections sixty days before the election to involve
things like force mail in voting, vote harvesting, and drop boxes.
And she's talking here about rules based order. Now this
gets more entertaining when she is going to deliver a
line someone wrote for her, she memorized, well, she delivers well,
and it has to do with hypocrisy. But keep that
all in mind. So back to AOC attempting to be
cameorogenic on c SPAN.
Speaker 4: Question mark do we have? And so I think one
of the reasons why not just myself, but many of
our colleagues here in fact Democrats many Democrats that are
here as well, is because we want to tell a
larger story that what is happening is indeed very grave,
and we are in a new era domestically and globally.
There have been many leaders who said we will go back,
and I think we have to recognize that we are
in a new day and in a new time.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, we are in a new day, in a
new time. It's going to be very difficult to put
the populist genie back into the square bottle they want
it to be in But she's transitioning into making a
statement now about hypocrisy and about what Americans want. She's
going to transition from what democrats want to what Americans want.
And this is a good shift. Someone gave her good
responses on this, a good bit of rehearsal. She knows
this is her role now. She's going to be anti populist,
the rules based person, even though she's only in office
because she won the popularity contest of being camera Janic.
This is so well rehearsed. And then we get to
the laugh line that no one laughed at because they
didn't catch it.
Speaker 5: It has to do with hypocrisy, but that does not
mean that the majority of Americans are ready to walk
away from a rules based order.
Speaker 1: So there's that line, rules based order, rules based order.
In times of chaos, people want rules based orders. Except
for what open borders. We had a rules based order
on how you enter the country, rules based order. I
just started a discussion on NPR radio this weekend. Accually
tuned into NPR and they were talking about this woman
who praised God survived being shot five times by ice agents,
and they pretend that it's now new and important information
that the ICE agents decided to run into her car
while they were trying to run into her but to
them and never did they get to the point In
the endpair discussion to saying, is it okay for American
citizens to chase down law enforcement officers as they're carrying
out their duty and attempting to block them into parking
spots so they can't in fact effect and arrest rules
based order? So that line rules based order, she's going
to combine with hypocrisy here in a moment as she's
being camera janic and well rehearsed, and that.
Speaker 4: We're ready to walk away from our commitment to democracy.
I think what we identify is that in a rules
based order, here we go. Hypocrisy is vulnerability.
Speaker 1: Hypocrisy is vulnerability. You're looking at a woman whose net
worth has skyrocketed in Congress, who bemoans the rich, middle
class and poor gap. You're looking at a woman who
flies private with Bernie Sanders but bemoans people who can
afford their own private jets. You're looking at a woman
who acted as if she was crying in a pretty
convincing pose outside of a parking lot at an ICE facility,
but not actually in the facility reconstructing what she did.
You're talking about someone who's talking here about rules based order,
ignoring the fact that they threw all the rules out
in the last election, that they continue to throw the
rules out when it comes to shifting the electoral college.
And she says, hypocrisy is vulnerability. And she continues, and.
Speaker 4: So I think what you're seeking is a return to
a rules based order that eliminates the hypocrisies around when
too often in the West we'd look the other way
for inconvenient populations to act out these paradoxes.
Speaker 1: Inconvenient populations to act out these paradoxes. People are acting
like this is some kind of smart statement. The Democrat
Party has made a meal and a tactic and a
strategy of bemoaning straight white men as inconvenient populations. And they,
of course want us to think of immigration here with
inconvenient populations, when there's a party that's importing as many
illegal immigrants into the country as possible shifting the electoral college,
which is sort of what an inconvenient population coming in
to complete what she wants to call this paradox. Then
she gets into talking about ICE agents doing something ICE
agents are not doing, which is sort of a form
of hypocrisy. Jesus, in fact, use the word hypocrisy to
mean actor was what it meant at the time. Jesus
is applied to people like her.
Speaker 4: Whether it is, you know, kidnapping a foreign head of state.
Speaker 1: Kidnapping a foreign head of state, as we've done multiple times,
not just in this case. The United States has given
itself the right to do that. Madure was not the first.
Speaker 4: She knows this, whether it is threatening our allies to
colonize Greenland, whether it is looking the other way in
a genocide. Hypocrisies are vulnerabilities, and they threaten democracies globally.
And so I think many of us are here to
say we are here and we are ready for the
next chapter.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing statement in this. You're really paying attention
to the fact that you're looking at a pure, unadulterated
hypocrite here. Now, I can be against the forced colonization
of Greenland, and I am don't go steal that island
from them, create an alliance. That's the one thing she
says here that kind of makes sense looking the other
way in a genocide she means, what's going on in Gaza.
I agree that is super problematic. Charlie Kirk looked at
it and said, this is a genocide. I get that,
but looking the other way in genocides, this is a
party that is abortioned all costs, which has far surpassed
the deaths in any of these wars. And if you
want to talk about purely innocent people, you got it.
They've walked past the genocide of what they've done to
the food system. They walked past the genocides in Nigeria.
They never paid attention to these things. And she says,
hypocrisy is vulnerability when you're talking about populism. What is
vulnerability for this woman is if she ever finds herself
actually on stage in an actual debate next to someone
who's actually able to speak truth without having to triangulate
and rehearse. Because we saw a comparison today. She didn't
expect to be asked about China and Taiwan. She hadn't
rehearsed that, she hadn't been fed the line about democracy
and hypocrisy and rules based order. She thought she was
going there to talk about her bailey Wick populism, even
though she pretends to not be a populist. Story number two,
Do you have Trump fatigue? What do I mean by
Trump fatigue? Let me explain this. I will continue to
support the policies of President Trump that I support, which
are most of them, but I'm getting very, very tired.
It goes to a key question for me about President Trump,
and it's a question that has plagued me for a
long time. In relation to Jnald John Trump. You probably
watched the Pam Bondi hearing in Congress. I see people
now going back into the great retreat of people who
are all Trump all the time. He can't make any mistakes.
This was multi layer chess. This was Pam Bondi trapping
Congress and Democrats with her unbelievably smart scheme to search
and see what they were searching for and what they
search for in the files because now they know the
names they were searching for. You see, she laid out
a trap. She's a fox, multi level chess. No, it
was a hamhanded, ridiculous, stupid pr nightmare for Trump, and
it handed the Democrats all sorts of footage they're gonna use.
Was the ladies there posing as victims, all of them victims. No,
a lot of more adult women when they met Epstein. Now,
some of them got conned, some of them probably got threatened.
Epstein was a vitally evil human being who did vitally
evil things. Pam Bondi could have said, I'm aware of
some of the women behind me who were adults when
they met Epstein, and can we talk about that? Can
we talk about that? And why are you coming out now?
She could have done that. She sat there silent. She
screamed at Thomas Massey, failed politician. When people ask questions
about the Epstein file, she came along and said, but
the stock market, they can't wait to use that stuff.
And I get Trump fatigue when I see something like this.
Ag Pambondi, under intense fire from the Trump drained radical
left lunatics, was fantastic at yesterday's hearing on the never
ending saga of Jeffrey Epstein. Were the one thing that
has been proven conclusively, But to the chagrin was the
President Donald J. Trump has been one hundred percent exonerated
of the ridiculous Russi Russia Russia type charges. Actually it
is the slamball democrats, many of them big donors and
politicians have been proven guilty, Republican losers, sanctimonius. Rhino Congressman
Thomas Massey made a total fool of himself yesterday fighting
aimlessly against a hopeless agenda of hate and stupidity, as
the most clearly stated by crashing his job approval numbers
and the great Commonwealth of stop Stop Stop Pam BONDI
embarrassed herself, and she embarrassed the office of the President.
She's embarrassed the Office of the President. Are refusing to
carry out anything. Even towards the end of this this
truth social post, President Trump goes back to this the
Republican successes. Maybe they should focus on their quest to
open our borders to the world's greatest criminals, have a
so called transgender for everybody, or get men no matter
their size or strength, to plain women's sports because you
stop that, Yes, you sign an executive order. Now what
it's still happening. So yes, I get Trump fatigue because
then I turn around and I see things like this.
It gives me this incredible hope. But it gets back
to this core question, the core question that's always plagued
me about President Trump. And right now, as I said,
I don't like the answer I'm getting as I'm trying
to be prayerful about that. I don't like it at all.
I'll continue to support the policies, but I'm really very
concerned about the President's soul. I'm very very concerned about
his governing principles. But then I see things like this
and they seem like great news. I just found this
this morning, sitting down to do this recording, and it's
about a guy that happens to be a black pastor,
and he had the President's team reach out. They didn't
want to do a pr thing, they didn't want to
make it public. They just wanted to come by.
Speaker 6: President Trump wants to come to your churchy.
Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, come on.
Speaker 6: So he sent over an agreement. I don't even read it.
I sign it because I think it is a joke.
Can't I sign a little veneo agreement? On a Monday,
he comes, his team comes. Half of the people look
like me. I'm thinking, these kids with Trump, what in
the hood?
Speaker 2: Hood?
Speaker 6: I mean you gotta think about I mean, you have
the hood and then you have the hood.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. In our community, like you.
Speaker 6: Gonna start for gas.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just terrible. And the Holy ghost right
in the middle of the.
Speaker 6: Right in the middle of it, in the midst of darkness. Yeah,
there shines a great light. I mean, I'm in Detroit.
It's a democratic straw call. We have had a Republican
mayor in sixty years. I don't think a Republican has
come to Detroit since President Trump. Friday, the campaign says,
by the way, pastor, we want you to be a
part of a round table. I don't even know what
they're doing. Nothing, nothing wants prey programmed, nothing was played.
He comes in the most authentic person because in my community,
when white, older white men get around black people from
my community, because it's so polarizing, not like the South.
To President Trump, he wanted to be around black people
and black people they could tapally know that, and he
wasn't socially awkward. Then he says, they pray for me.
People were yelling his name. They were this, so I'm,
you know, preacher, I'm in my church from sending there there.
Speaker 1: I mean Trump, I said, hold on for a second time.
We don't even chant Jesus like that. We are even
careful around here. They're chanting his name.
Speaker 6: They literally say happy birthday to him.
Speaker 1: It was un real. I thought maybe there would have
been a couple of.
Speaker 6: Black people there. The play. We have about four hundred
people there. Christ's about six hundred. We have four hundred
people there, seventy percent for black. The media, the lying media.
I never thought the media will lie. They said it
was nothing, but all white people there. They just lied.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. He's a pastor.
Speaker 6: Why don't you pray for me?
Speaker 1: And I just pray for pray for protection.
Speaker 6: He prayed for protection.
Speaker 1: I see this, and then where's my fatigue? Will the
President's pursue in Christ? He wants Jesus to be king
of his life. And then I get hopeful and we
all have this faith walk and we're all where we're at.
And I think the President, I've described this as baby
Christian and all that means if you're not evangelical, all
that means is that you are spiritually dead. You know,
Jesus is king. You are now spiritually awake, your little
baby in the faith. What can the faith do for me?
What will the church do for me? It's being me
and me, me, me, And that's sadly and we can
admit this right, that fits some of the way President
Trump thinks. So then I start to get this hope.
But there's still this core question, and it's really why
I'm feeling my Trump fatigue today. I had forgotten something
that me as a father, this would have floored me
in the worst way. I would have been driven into
depression and sadness. I certainly wouldn't have celebrated this, but
President Trump did. It drives my Trump fatigue, and this
core question, what is the governing principle of Donald John Trump?
Who is lord of his life? And if it's God?
And I hate to say this, which one I know
that is a provocative question. And I hope to show
you why I have this question in the midst of
my Trump fatigue, because I see the Day of Prayer announcement.
So President Trump wants to do a national Day of Prayer. Okay,
we do that. He wants to make it special, does
a very Trumpian announcement, because he has to build it
up into this thing where it's an insert no one
it's very hard. No one thought, Oh that's tough, that
can't get done. It's a very Trumpian announcements, he putting
himself at the center of discussion about God Almighty.
Speaker 8: Support this exciting renewal. This morning, I'm pleased to announce
that on May seventeenth, twenty twenty twenty six, that we're
inviting Americans from all across the country to come together
on our national mold.
Speaker 1: Now you can see he's reading at this point, right,
hasn't that cleared? Everybody see he's looking at the teleprompter.
He's reading, and he does what President Trump does. He
throws in a little ad lib, as if to make
it seem he's not reading.
Speaker 8: Ray to give thanks and to rid we are going
to do something that everyone said, like, that's.
Speaker 1: Tough ad lib.
Speaker 8: We're going to rededicate America as one nation under God.
You know a lot of people, Yeah, thank you very much.
It's good. That's what I mean by that's what I
mean by the spirit.
Speaker 2: It's so incredible to see it.
Speaker 8: I see it so much. You've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 1: I don't hear a lot of conviction. I never seen
anything like it. Now, I don't want to bear false witness.
I don't know that the president is a non Christian.
I don't know that I've described him as a baby Christian.
But I'll tell you why I have Trump fatigued today.
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twenty six Dash zero five. This is the one that
gave me real pause. It escaped my notice. I can't
believe I didn't see this, But this is the core
of why I redeveloped an acute case of Trump fatigue
this weekend. If your son or daughter came to you,
if you're a Christian, and they said something that was say,
you know what, I reject Jesus Christ. If you are
in a Christian family and your daughter said, hey, can
we sit down we have a discussion. Mom, Dad, I
reject Jesus. He's not my Lord, he's not my savior.
He's a false Messiah. I don't believe in him. What
would your response be. Mine would be sadness, maybe some anger.
I might feel a little desperate. I know i'd be praying,
and Christians hold their kids up in prayer anyway, so
I know i'd be praying constantly. What I wouldn't do
is what President Trump did.
Speaker 8: And let me also give a very special thanks to
someone who truly loves Israel, in fact, loves it so
much that my daughter converted.
Speaker 4: My daughter.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this was going to happen.
Speaker 8: And Evoka is here.
Speaker 1: Those are people applauding in the Israeli Kinessant chamber as
President Trump was addressing the Kanesseant, applauding that she has
disowned Jesus Christ. I have Trump fatigue. A Christian man
cannot applaud his child's denying Christ. So what is the
governing principle of President Trump? And why do I get fatigued?
Because I think the governing principle is what moves President
Trump to the center of all conversations. How is he
the one everyone's talking about. Those of us who are
ambassadors for Christ should want that to be the very
last thing. Now, it's hard to be president and not
be at the center of the conversation. To be fair
to President Trump and the alternative to Donald John Trump,
the alternative Cammi Harris, I fully believe that would have
been the last step in the unbelievable and fast destruction
of America.
Speaker 2: Totally.
Speaker 1: I don't regret my vote at all. I simply regret
wondering is President Trump truly Christian? Is the true motivating
factor in his life? How does he move himself to
the center of something? So I guess I have Trump fatigue,
and I'm curious do you have it too? Story number three,
the Body of Christ versus fallen church bosses. There's a
fight going on and it doesn't get enough attention, and
it is a fight between members of churches and denominations
in church bosses. In the Bible, we're told that the churches,
the churches that intend to be adherent to the Word
of Christ, that they'll be bodied, they'll be governed by elders,
that there's a leadership committee. And the Bible describes elders
as men above repute. They have great reputations. There's some specifics.
They're not drunkards, they're good with finances, their kids follow them,
respect them, They've got their respect to their wives. They
have well structured households. So they're evidently men who have
done a good job of abiding with God. And then
in the Church of Jesus, the church that Jesus built,
then being able to lead other people to follow Christ,
to abide and to struert resources and to lead and
to lead others to not stray from the path. So
there is a governing system that Jesus laid out. We
know this because the apostles when they founded the first church,
created a group of elders, and that was initially the apostles,
but they seeded churches around the world. I mean they
seated them around the world. They went back through the
same program. Who are going to be the elders? What
are the qualifications of elders? Paul wrote about this in
Timothy and Eltchi. Where as he was lecturing Timothy on
how he was to direct church plans and well run
Christian churches, this is still the way. So you have leadership,
then that's held accountable to who, well, the Body of Christ,
because the elders must come before the body and must
be reviewed by the body. We do this at our church,
and the way it works is, Hey, if anyone here
has reason why this man should not be an elder,
get with us and tell us, and we have I
think sixty ninety days in order to make these claims.
They can't be anonymous, because why you can lie anonymously.
If you have a reason a man should not be
an elder, you go and you say, here's why this
person should not be an elder. And by the way
that's happened, people have had to withdraw from processes because
people came up within the congregation and said that person
should not be an elder and here's why. And at
least one of the cases, the elder came back and said,
you know what, they're right. I hadn't even thought about that.
I can't be an elder. I haven't dealt with that spiritually.
I can't possibly lead this church. So well run church
has these leadership qualifications. Then you have the pastor, usually
a member of the leadership team. He is beholden to
the elders. In our case at our church, our pastor
can't fire anybody on his own. He can't hire anybody
in his own. This all has to go through this process.
This is to make sure that this restraint, that the
flesh doesn't come into play, that the pastor doesn't get
up say you're fired. Nope, you can't do that. That
has to go to be a forid elders work. You
know what, I love this guy he's hired. Nope, that
has to go before an elders board in this case.
Then you have then the Body of Christ and any
time can go and challenge leadership, and you do this
in the Bible first, one on one. If that doesn't work,
then you bring people as witnesses. If that doesn't work,
you take it in front of the elder board. Anybody
on the elder board could be challenged as being an elder.
I know this person's an elder right now, but they
shouldn't be. It's ultimate transparency. What we're seeing in the
Body of Christ, though, is a war between the people
who make up the body and false bosses. And in
this case there's actually some good news. The Church of
England voted and this is the Church universal. I'm not
just talking about American churches. Jesus is not the Lord
and Savior of America. He's not the God of America.
He's the Lord of the universe. The Church of England
voted two hundred and fifty two to one thirty two
with twenty one abstentions to cease efforts advancing LGBQ and
so called T acceptance in the church. So this goes
along with blessings and same sex marriages. And this was
between africansensus between what they like to call conservatives and
liberals have been reached. Conservatives and liberals. What does that
mean in a church environment? What is a liberal in
a church environment or a conservative? I went through the
Bible and looked at this. It doesn't exist. What are
there teachers and false teachers? How do you tell the difference?
False teachers deny the word of God. They model the
word of God. The Bible says multiple times do not
add or subtract from this. In the Book of Revelation,
it's made pretty clear, woe to those who add or
subtract from this. It's a grave sin to change the
word of God. False teachers are warn what will happen
to false teachers? So what does liberal mean? It simply
means this, they don't care about what's in the word,
because if the word hurts them or denies them their flesh,
in many cases they're going to deny that word, or
twist that word, or end up saying that the word
doesn't say what the word so clearly says. And the
word is meant as a way to relate to God.
We call this the vertical relationship. This is us relating
to God. And then the horizontal relationship, this is us
relating with one another. The Bible has some i think
three hundred mentions of one another how we deal with
one another. And of course the Bible also shows us
how God intends to be worshiped, how he wants to
be worshiped, and that he wants a relationship with us.
Jesus when he walked the earth, it wasn't just him
teaching and curing people and performing miracles, et cetera. What
was he doing. He was creating relationship. He said at
one point, I no longer just think of you as followers.
I think of you as friends. They created relationships with him.
Christ wants to walk with us. Go back to church leadership.
In a well run church, in a Christian church, there
shouldn't be this fancy dividing line between members and bosses.
You know, at our church, we call our pastors my
first name. In fact, my friend Jim, who is the
senior pastor where I go to church. For a while,
I couldn't get used to calling him Jim, and I'd
slip on a com pastor. And he said to me
one day, he goes, don't do that, please, He goes,
do I call you talk show host Todd or podcaster Todd?
I don't. I just call you Todd. Just call me Jim.
I'm just Jim. This pastor is my job. I'm Jim.
It's not who I am. It's what I do. So
there shouldn't be these big dividing lines, but there are. Now.
I know that the Catholic face has different views of this,
that people are priests are treated like fathers, and there's
the Confession of Booth, and I respect that aspect of
the faith. It's not something I can do because I
don't like that dividing line. I think it seems all
very fair sequel. But that's me been the churches that
are fighting against keeping the church attached to the Bible.
You have these leaders, they stand against the church body
in most ways. This was a consensus two fifty two
to one thirty two to stop this advancement because the
advancement goes against the Word of God. And just consider
this is the Church of England, and the Church of
England has been fallen for a very very long time.
This is a bit of a comeback. It's like a revival.
Claire Robinson is a priest in the Church of England.
And incidentally, the Bible makes clear that women are not
to be teaching men. They don't have to have pastoral roles.
And I know that young women, in particular below the
age of fifty look at this and go that's why
I can't And I well, okay, this is what this means.
God values men and women equally and he has given
them different gifts. There is no being a pastor is
not more important than leading a women's Bible study. Being
a pastor is not more important than being a janitor.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I look at the janitor at our church, the guy
who runs the janitorial services. He shows up at baptisms
for kids. He was at this Lake Baptist and we
did this Sunday. The kids love him and it doesn't
occur to them. Oh, he's just the janitor. Why is
he here? No, he's Tim, Now, Tim, I sweet, Tim's here.
People love Tim. Maybe because we're taught and reminded that
everybody's gifted differently. Some people are gifted to lead and teach.
Other people are gifted to make sure that our church.
I dare you to come to our church and find
that dirty. I dare you to come and find something
broken because of how he runs his crew. A great
respect for this. So when people take the Bible and
they twist it and you end up with a female
priest in the Church of England, they're still not going
to address that. She's upset with these changes that the
Church of England has come about with in regard to
the part of the Word of God in relation to
sexual morality.
Speaker 7: Twenty twenty three, the bishops apologized to the LGBTQI plus
community for the way in which the Church has rejected
or excluded you and those you love. We are deeply
sorry we have not loved you as God loves you,
and that is profoundly wrong. We affirm publicly and unequivocally
that you are welcomed and valued.
Speaker 1: They haven't changed any of this. When they voted to
not advance same sex marriage, when they voted to not
advance blessing the same sex marriages, they didn't say stop
coming to church. They didn't say you're not welcome here.
They said we cannot bless your sin. We're not going
to come and have an adulterous couple step before the
church and say, you know what, we're each cheating on
our spouses, but we really like each other and we
really like having sex. Bless this. The church has to
say no, we can't do this, but Claire Robinson is
going to continue here.
Speaker 7: I wept when I read those words. I believed that
they were heartfelt and true. I thought they would change
my life. I was wrong. My beloved partner is eighty eight.
The grindingly slow left process now means that we are
very unlikely to be permitted to marry. Yet still we
live as visible signs of the love of God in
our community. For God is love, and those who live
in love live in God, and God lives in them.
Speaker 1: My intention now, God lives in people who have given
themselves back to Jesus, accepted him as Lord and savior,
first mentally and then through their mouths confessed them confessed
Jesus's savior with their mouths. Who's agreed to allow Jesus
to change them. Those are the people who have the
Holy Spirit, not people who love as she defines love,
because the Bible defines love in a very very different way.
Speaker 7: Pritty remains intact. I have upheld my ordination vows in
obedience to my bishop. I know that ordination is a
privilege beyond telling, even if I have not lived my
life in the fullness which Christ promises to all who
believe in his name.
Speaker 1: No, Jesus did not promise marriage to all who believe
in his name. Maybe she means that she's no longer
remember the body of Christ. If you continue to sin
and practice sin as if to get good at the sin,
you're probably not in the body of Christ. You probably
excommunicate yourself from it. And maybe God can't be around
you because He can love you and not be around
your sin. Now I can look at her and the
sad look on her face, and my frush comes up.
I feel sad for her. I don't know why God
made these rules. I just know he's God and he
always acts on our behalf. There was a poll about this,
and it was talking about would you perform the weddings
of a same sex couple if your religious group allowed it.
This is based on religion, a religious tradition of clergy,
and this was polls given the clergy Catholic forty six
percent absolutely not or definitely not, Evangelical eighty percent definitely not,
Black Protestants seventy percent definitely not, and yet their course
attached to the Democrat party mainline. There is no such
thing as mainline anymore. Such a funny phrase. Twenty three
percent Non Christians twenty three percent, so mainline. You know,
Episcopal churches like that. That are falling churches. The ELKA
Lutheran Church is mainline. They match non Christians twenty three
percent definitely not yes, non Christians seventy two percent quote
only forty nine percent of mainline Christians. The loss definitely
not or definitely as the lowest is Black, Protestants and
Evangelical by far. So I talked about this war between
the Body of Christ, the members of the Body Christ
and church bosses. Notice I didn't say elders, because it's
not elders, it's people acting like church bosses. This is
Rachel Man, a prominent so called transgender priest in the
Church of England.
Speaker 3: It is my heart is so bruthed I still wonder
if I might ultimately simply abstain. I speak of someone
who's been involved in work for greater lgbtqia plus inclusion
and celebration in the church for long enough that LLF
still feels almost new. The ongoing meanness and exclusions towards
same sex married couples in ministry is not worthy of
a national church in a modern liberal democracy. I find
the claim that LLF has achieved the end of issues
as execrable. The clutching at the thinnest of Is it
right to lament? Yes, and yes, but also no. I
don't want lament, not after the bruising decades. I want action.
I'm tired then for good reason. But I'm also really
tired because of our failings as a church.
Speaker 1: He is or she so called transgender person said, not
befitting a national church. Well, I don't care about national churches.
I care about one church, the one Jesus created on
his plan, because it's only that church which will stand
against the gates of Hades. This is the todd hermanshell.
Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and please
make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.