WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:11.960 We should read our bibles as men dig you for 2 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:14.400 bury treasure, one of. 3 00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:16.800 The most high game of the nations their inheritance. When 4 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:19.920 He divided mankind, he fixed the borders of people's according 5 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:21.399 to the number of the sons of God. 6 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:25.280 In those days and for some time after, giant Nephilites 7 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:27.239 lived down to the earth. For whenever the sons of 8 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:30.199 God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children 9 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:33.600 who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient tides. 10 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:36.840 Take no part in the fruitless steeds of darkness, but 11 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:39.759 yet expose that though a. 12 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:43.079 Thousand fall at your side, though ten thousand are dying 13 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:46.359 around you these ears, we are not touching. 14 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:49.799 Lives of garden man. 15 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:50.880 You gotta dig it. 16 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:57.679 Hell, old fellow treasure hunters, welcome to the excavation side. 17 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:00.240 I'must in alongside and when we got Ben Steve even 18 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:03.560 in Chad will be your guides on this excursion. Hope 19 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:05.920 you brought your shovel in your compass, because we got 20 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:06.359 the map. 21 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:16.439 Let's do that book you brought and tell us about 22 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:19.319 it and some of the nuggets you got in there. 23 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:21.400 We brought it up a little bit earlier. But this 24 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:24.400 book and I think this is This is interesting because 25 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:28.640 it's a Maurice s Rawlings as an MD, who end 26 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:30.920 up writing this book. And I believe there's another one 27 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.519 after this. This is not a new book. It's been 28 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:34.000 around for. 29 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:36.079 A little while. It looks like it's been around. 30 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:37.799 It's been around for a little while. As a matter 31 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:41.000 of fact, I think my dad actually bought this from 32 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:45.200 a book sale at the Lano County Library in Lake 33 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:47.959 Shore Branch wherever that is. I have no. 34 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:49.439 Idea what's the print date? 35 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:51.519 I mean, look and see if I can do this. 36 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:56.439 Guess real quick, ben print date, That's what I was 37 00:01:56.480 --> 00:02:02.400 thinking mid the late eighties. The a historical document. 38 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:08.759 Original copyright hold on is nineteen ninety three. 39 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:11.159 Oh, it's just been left out in the sun. 40 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:13.400 It has been left out in the sun. It was 41 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.639 a library book at one time, so it's it's seen 42 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:19.479 better days. But this book is about this physician who 43 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:24.479 was an atheist who didn't believe in God and his 44 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:28.400 encounters with people who are you know, on the on 45 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:31.280 the operating table who die and have to be brought back, 46 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:36.759 I mean, or just near death experiences, stuff that people 47 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:39.599 see when they leave their body or something of that. Nature. 48 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:43.400 And I think that that's really powerful because if you 49 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:48.039 could have a glimpse into what it's like after you die, 50 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:51.439 I think, I mean, I think I feel like people 51 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.360 if they go and they had a bad glimpse. God 52 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:56.800 gave him a second chance, you know what I mean, 53 00:02:56.919 --> 00:03:01.159 he really did, because who knows. We can sit here 54 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:04.280 and tell you all these different things and all the scripture, 55 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.960 and we can go right through and there are some 56 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.159 atheists out there that will never believe that no matter 57 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:12.960 what we say. But if you can hear it from 58 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:17.319 another person what they saw, and this is coming from 59 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:21.120 another atheist, and you can hear what people have saw, 60 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.360 what they have seen. What this guy can tell you 61 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:28.080 that that he's seen firsthand, that he's seen firsthand, that 62 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:31.360 that will blow your mind. But let's start with a 63 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.680 couple of I have a couple that are more on 64 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:36.520 the negative side. 65 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:39.639 That lead with the negative, with the possible. 66 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:40.759 Well that's exactly it. 67 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:44.159 Bad news first, all right. 68 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.000 So this is once again, this is from the some 69 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:48.719 of the A couple of these are are from people 70 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:52.560 he was able to witness or to interview afterwards. But 71 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.400 this one's from his point of view as he was 72 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:59.560 going through it. However, this guy did live for a 73 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.960 while after this, so this is something that's been confirmed 74 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:06.240 obviously all the way through. But once again, this book 75 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:10.560 is called Helen Back by Maurice s. Rawlings, and he's 76 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.199 the author of another book called Beyond Death's Door, which 77 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.839 might be the other one that I'm talking about. But 78 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:20.680 here I'm gonna read a couple. We'll read the first one, 79 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:22.480 we'll have a cut, little bit of input from everybody, 80 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.600 and then we'll kind of jump to the next. Surprisingly, 81 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:28.439 Charlie continued to talk for a while, unaware that his 82 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:30.800 heart had stopped. Four or five seconds later, he looked 83 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.480 suddenly dumbfounded. It was as if he were about to 84 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:37.120 ask a question. Then his eyes rolled up in the 85 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:39.720 back of the head and he fell, the treadmill sweeping 86 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:43.120 his body away like so much trash. This reminded me 87 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:46.439 of similar problems occurring in the heart lab, where the 88 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.519 heartbeat stops for some reason, but amazingly, the patient continues 89 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:51.959 to talk for a while. Hitting them on the chest 90 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:54.680 or making them cough repeatedly usually starts him up again, 91 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:58.160 so the procedure can be completed as if nothing happened. 92 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.560 The CPR two technique that we used on Charlie has 93 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:07.079 been modified by using sequential chest abdominal compressions at a 94 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:10.879 rate of eighty per minute. The artificial breathing technique is 95 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:15.199 the same. Details are available at your local American Heart 96 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:18.240 Association or Red Cross, and the method is listed in 97 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:22.040 the appendix. With Charlie's head sharply extended to chin toward 98 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:24.639 the ceiling, one of the nurses breed the Kiss of life. 99 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:28.959 The other nerse started IVY or a IVY for medicines. 100 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:32.279 By then, an underlying block in the heartbeat had appeared 101 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:35.160 on the monitor. That means that the heart could not 102 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:39.480 conduct the beat properly and a temporary pacemaker would be 103 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:44.560 needed for the heart to respond to CPR. Using a 104 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:48.600 large bore needle, I entered the big vein under the collarbone, 105 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.480 then threaded the pacemaker wire into the right side of 106 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:54.240 the heart and attached the wire to a pulse generator 107 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:58.240 box to initiate every heartbeat, not missing a stroke, but 108 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.600 blood was spurting everywhere. Whenever I stopped pushing on his 109 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.480 chest in order to adjust the pacemaker, the heart would stop, 110 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.279 Charlie's eyes would roll up and he would sputter again. 111 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:12.519 Turn blue and begin to convulse with bare hands, just 112 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.000 like you can. I would reach over and start him 113 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:18.120 up again, but this time he was screaming the words 114 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:22.279 don't stop. I'm in hell, I'm in hell hallucinations. I 115 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:25.680 thought most victims say take your big hands off me, 116 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:29.000 or breaking my ribs, but he was saying the opposite. 117 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:32.639 For God's sake, don't stop. Don't you understand? Every time 118 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:36.360 you let go, I'm back in hell. When he asked 119 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:38.879 me to pray for him, I felt downright and salted. 120 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:40.800 In fact, I told him to shut up. I said, 121 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.600 I was a doctor, not a minister, and not a psychiatrist. 122 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:47.279 But the nurse gave me that expectant. Look, what would 123 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:51.279 you do? That's when I composed a make believe prayer. 124 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.439 I made him repeat the make believe prayer word for 125 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:57.439 word to keep him off my back. Meanwhile, I resuscitated 126 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:00.000 with one hand and adjusted the pacemaker with the other. 127 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:02.959 Say it, Jesus Christ is the son of God. Go 128 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:06.720 on and say it, I said, keep me out of hell, 129 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:09.279 and if I live, I'm on the hook, I'm yours. 130 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:12.040 Go on and say it. That A very strange thing 131 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:16.279 happened that changed our lives. A religious conversion experience took place. 132 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:19.279 I had never witnessed one before. He was no longer 133 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:23.160 wild eyed and screaming, combative, the combative lunatic who had 134 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:27.399 been fighting me for his life. He was relaxed, calm, 135 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:31.279 and cooperative. It frightened me. I was shaken by the events. 136 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:35.639 Not only had that make believe prayer blown out the 137 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:40.399 soul of Charlie mckaig, but had backfired and got me too. 138 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.480 It was a conviction I cannot express even to this day. 139 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:47.600 Since then, Charlie has outlived three permanent pacemakers, and it 140 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:50.759 has been difficult to believe that this miserable prayer of 141 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:53.160 mine would have opened the road to my own salvation. 142 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.240 I thought you were starting with a bad one. 143 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:59.519 That was a bad one. He was in hell. Well 144 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:06.800 he went to hell. Well it's not all sunshine and rainbows. 145 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:07.759 I take it to you. 146 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:10.000 That would be kind of crazy, though. 147 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:14.120 Yeah. Every time his heart stops when he comes back, 148 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:18.079 don't stop. I'm inhale. 149 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:19.439 That. 150 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:21.639 I mean, that is that not just I mean, it 151 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:23.720 gives me the chills. Really you think about it. I mean, 152 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:25.399 it's it's intense to think about. 153 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:30.319 He was there with la or the rich man in Abrahams. 154 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:34.399 Yeah, listen to this one because it gives you a 155 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:37.120 couple more visual details as we go through it. Right, 156 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.039 listen to this one. So this is the point. 157 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:42.720 Of view, different story. 158 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.919 It's a different story. And this is the patient recounting 159 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:48.360 it to the doctor. So this is from the patient's 160 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:53.960 point of view this time. Right, they said, you were 161 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:58.000 watching the television monitor to guide the pacemaker wire inside 162 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.799 my heart, and that's when it stopped. I was blacking out. 163 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:02.799 Then you hit me on the chest saying excuse me. 164 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:08.240 Then this is the same guy, totally different. 165 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:11.840 This is just a similar circumstance, similar circumstance. A lot 166 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:14.679 of this happens, like when you talk about from the 167 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.360 medical point of view, when someone while they have to 168 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:20.879 put a temporary pacemaker to get the heart kind of stabilized, 169 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:23.320 to kind of get it to keep the heart pumping 170 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:28.120 actionated blood through the body. It's you know, it's a 171 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:30.759 different type of CPR than you or me can give 172 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:33.240 because they're able to get the heart to beat as well. 173 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:35.679 But which I thought it was interesting they called it 174 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:37.879 the kiss of life because you know, you know, in 175 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:42.679 Genesis it says that Adam was a inanimate body until 176 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:47.159 God breathed the breath of life into his lungs. That's 177 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:54.679 pretty cool, all right, We're ready, Sorry, continue. 178 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.759 Sir, all right. Then your fist came down like a hammer. 179 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:01.799 I saw that skin, look in your eyes. Someone was yelling. 180 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:05.200 Something crashed over to my left, and everybody went crazy. 181 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:07.799 You started shoving me with both hands, and then I 182 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:11.759 was out of it. I was floating pitch black, moving fast. 183 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:14.960 The wind whistled by, and I rushed towards this beautiful 184 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:17.879 blazing light. As I moved past the walls of the 185 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:22.120 tunnel nearest to the light, caught fire. Beyond the blazing tunnel, 186 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:25.279 a huge lake of fire was burning like an oil spill. 187 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.639 A hill on the far side was covered with slabs 188 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:33.240 of rock. Elongated shadows showed that people were moving aimlessly 189 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:36.840 about like animals in a zoo enclosure. An old stone 190 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:39.840 building was on the right, mostly rubble with different levels 191 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.600 and openings, crammed with people trying to move about. Down 192 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:45.639 the hall, I saw an old friend who had died 193 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.279 the last time I recalled. They were dragging the river 194 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:53.360 for him. He had been involved with gambling. I yelled 195 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.960 to him. High there, Jim He just looked at me, 196 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:59.080 didn't smile. They were taking him around a corner where 197 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:03.279 he started screaming. I ran, but there was no way out. 198 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:06.120 I kept saying Jesus is God. Over and over I 199 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:10.200 would say Jesus is God. Some Way, somehow I got 200 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.279 back to you as you were putting in the stitches. 201 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:17.080 I loved every one of those stitches. Only God could 202 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:18.919 have gotten me out a mess like that. I'll never 203 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:19.519 forget it. 204 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:26.159 I mean, wow, that's pretty rough. 205 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:28.600 To see that. 206 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.559 But I mean it's like like you know, I've seen 207 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:34.440 the light, but then the walls turned the fire. 208 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:37.279 Yes, it's like you think it's gonna be positive. 209 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:38.759 I see the light. I see the light. 210 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:45.799 Oh no, it's gone the wrong way. I mean you 211 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.320 just think about that, the fact. 212 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:54.600 Yeah, the wrong light. Fire has light to the wrong light. 213 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:59.320 It literally just reading that gives me chills. I mean, 214 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.519 when you really think about these people, can you imagine 215 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:06.519 having that experience and say you're an atheist and you 216 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:09.840 go through and you see you get a chance to see, 217 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:14.399 oh there is something after death and it's not but 218 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:17.360 it's horrifying. Oh, I guarantee it, and you get that 219 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:20.919 second chance. Not everybody gets that second chance. Not everybody's 220 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:22.240 there to get that second chance. 221 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:25.360 So which I had something like that, But it was 222 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:29.039 a dream. You remember when we did our testimonies. Oh yeah, yeah, 223 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:32.480 I had a dream. I mean I was a believer saved. 224 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:36.279 It's just I was just not living right, you know 225 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:38.960 what I mean. So I don't know. I mean i'd 226 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:40.360 like to think I wasn't going to go to hell. 227 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:45.000 Maybe it was just a scared straight wake up Kyle 228 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:46.919 from God. But I mean it was just as real 229 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:50.919 as you know, like we're sitting here talking. Yeah, I mean, 230 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:54.919 this portal or whatever just opened up at the foot 231 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:56.840 of my bed and all these hands just come up 232 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.600 and just start grabbing me, pulling me, lywing and just screaming. 233 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:03.559 And then I woke up. 234 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:08.039 Do you remember what Doug said in church, right our pastor. 235 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.720 He said, some people, he goes, if you, if you 236 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.840 have committed yourself to Jesus, if you believe that He 237 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:19.039 has has died for you, he says, you're going to 238 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:21.399 get to heaven. I mean you can stop there, and 239 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:23.559 he goes, some people will get into heaven with their 240 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:28.679 tails on fire, skin of your teeth, Your tail will 241 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:33.039 be on fire, you'll get in, but but just barely, 242 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:35.440 because it can a. 243 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:38.039 Bunch of crowns or would your tail on fire? 244 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:43.600 You met the bare minimum requirements. I mean, that's exactly it. 245 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.120 As Phil Robinson said, you were a C plus man. 246 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:51.559 See he's good degrees. But that's I mean, that's about it. 247 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:55.960 But let's let's jump into a little more positive light 248 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.039 to kind of see maybe the other side of what 249 00:13:58.080 --> 00:13:58.840 people see. 250 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:02.519 Okay, the good light, the good light, the good light, 251 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:07.639 the bright light, not the orange doom of fire light. 252 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:11.879 Not the s'mores light. Thoseores are good, you think there, 253 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:22.279 and I highly doubt it. I burned another one. 254 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:25.879 Hey, that would be hell for a fat man. Think 255 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:28.080 you think you're going to eat one? And no, oh, 256 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:33.919 I'm getting no again. 257 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:36.039 Belt again. 258 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:44.519 Anyhow, all right, we're back into a moving into a 259 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:48.399 different direction here once again, this is from the patient's 260 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:49.000 point of view. 261 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:53.840 Okay, my temperature was almost one hundred and six and 262 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:57.440 I was having cardiac arrhythmias. I felt an incredible pain. 263 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:00.399 The wall of my uterus was ripping apart. I was 264 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:03.960 in septic shock going into labor. As I lost consciousness, 265 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:06.639 I heard a voice shouting, I can't get her blood pressure, 266 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:10.600 and then within the tiniest fraction of an instant, I 267 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.039 was out of my body and out of pain. I 268 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:15.000 was on the ceiling in the corner of the room, 269 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:18.600 looking down, watching the doctors and nurses rush around frantically 270 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:21.960 as they worked to save my life. Then one of 271 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:26.159 the doctors, really upset, yelled obscenities, and somehow turned me over. 272 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:30.639 Now I was in a sort of a tunnel, a 273 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.759 cloud like enclosure. I felt wind brushing against my ears, 274 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:36.039 except I didn't have ears. I was there, but my 275 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:41.320 body wasn't. I began to feel the most incredible, warm, golden, 276 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:46.360 loving feeling, and that feeling was also a wonderful, warm 277 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.240 golden light. I was in this light a wisdom, and 278 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:53.799 that wisdom was the final word. The wisdom loved me, 279 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:57.440 and at the same time, it knew everything about me. 280 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:00.559 Everything I had ever done and felt, was there for 281 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.320 me to see. I wanted to proceed into the light 282 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:05.960 and stay there forever, but I was shown that I 283 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:08.240 had to go back and take care of my two children, 284 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.399 and in that same second, I was back in my body. 285 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:16.000 I mean to see that, to be in God's presence, 286 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.000 you know, we talk about that a lot, and like, 287 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:20.039 what would that be like to be around God? I mean, 288 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:22.559 think about even the disciples being around Jesus, to know 289 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.879 you could just I know, you could feel, you could 290 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:30.159 just feel everybody's drawn to him. And that's the same. 291 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:32.440 I mean, I can't even imagine you talk about was 292 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:40.720 it was it Abraham that that wanted to see God 293 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.320 and wouldn't let him see his face was and then 294 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:45.440 and he could only see his backside right as he 295 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:49.519 went by, And first a great wind came and all 296 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:51.840 this and and and they said when he came back, 297 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.039 he said, his face is glowing so much. And then 298 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:57.240 I think that happened to Moses. It was the burning bush, right, 299 00:16:57.600 --> 00:16:59.879 his face was so bright. Yet Moses had to wear 300 00:16:59.879 --> 00:17:02.559 a veil because his face was so bright. 301 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:05.720 In the transfiguration, Jesus glowed. 302 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:07.960 After exactly, So you get in the presence of God, 303 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:12.680 it's like it's like, my gosh, it's like, I don't know. 304 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:14.680 I always think about we we used to use these 305 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.039 little is cheesy at Sary, but we used to use 306 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:19.799 these phosphorescent spoons that you had to use a flashlight 307 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:21.440 to light up, and then they'd glow in the dark 308 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:23.559 all the time. And you'd use those at night fishing 309 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:25.559 for salmon off the pier. We used to do it 310 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.680 all the time. But it's the same thing, like that 311 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.039 light of God. It sits on you, it's there, His 312 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.599 his presence was on you. You could feel it. You'd 313 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:36.880 absorb it. Oh, you absorb it to some degree. But 314 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.440 at some point, you know, when you're separated from God, 315 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:42.000 it would slowly, that would slowly dissipate. You'd lose that, 316 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:44.559 you know what I mean. So I think I can't 317 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:46.440 even It's something we talk about it, it's something, but 318 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:47.960 something I can't even imagine. 319 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:53.519 And what's crazy is I think people honestly have like 320 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:59.160 encounters and stuff like that and you can't explain it 321 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:01.519 like they tried to. 322 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:04.200 People think they're crazy or you're full of it. 323 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.680 Oh yeah. Love my aunt she passed away with cancer 324 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:13.440 and she stayed with my grandmother, and my grandmother and 325 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:18.119 my mom took care of her around the clock, and 326 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.720 you know, with the morphine and the you know, the 327 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:24.039 cancer eating her, you know, alive. She was talking crazy, 328 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:27.279 especially like at nighttime it would get really bad. I 329 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.880 mean she would talk about army people being on the 330 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:31.960 roof and they're after you know what I mean, it 331 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:36.559 was pretty bad. But the night that she passed away, 332 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:44.839 she had like fifteen to twenty minutes of just clarity. 333 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:46.759 But I mean, she knew what was going on around 334 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:48.640 her stuff. But she did have some I guess what 335 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:53.640 we would call kind of crazy talk hallucinations, I guess. 336 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:53.599 You know. 337 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:56.920 But it was weird because like my sister, she had 338 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:04.200 just recently had to meet carriage, and nobody knew just 339 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:06.519 I mean, like my mom and me and my other sister, 340 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:10.519 that's it's all it knew, you know. My aunt Sharon 341 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:15.440 didn't know. And my sister come to visit her because 342 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.839 we knew it was getting close. And she was my 343 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.960 aunt was sitting on the couch like cradling a baby. 344 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:24.880 I was sitting there looking at it, you know, and 345 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.480 talking to it, you know. And of course, you know, 346 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:32.519 I mean, anybody that has you know, these problems or hallucinations, 347 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:34.599 you know, you don't confront them, You go along with 348 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:39.599 it does not upset them. And my sister was like, Sharon, 349 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:44.599 whose baby you got? And she said that she just 350 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:48.519 looked right at her like disgusted and said, what kind 351 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:53.799 of mother does know her own baby? And she didn't 352 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:56.240 think nothing about it, you know, but she kept going on, 353 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:59.039 you know, talking about you know, this your baby duh, 354 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:04.920 you know, and then it kind of hit her. She's like, yeah, 355 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:07.519 you know, was it? Did she see my baby that 356 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:13.000 I lost? And then that same night, my mom went 357 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:16.039 to sit down on the couch beside of her and she's. 358 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:17.480 Like what are you doing on? Get up? 359 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:20.599 Get up, and freaking out. And mom stood up and 360 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:22.200 was like, what is it? And you know, she said, 361 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:27.880 you sit on daddy. And her dad was dead too, 362 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:32.759 so she was talking about seeing her dad and this baby. 363 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:35.279 And I think they said she even saw somebody that 364 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:40.079 said she saw her brother, my uncle Paul that night, 365 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:45.119 just you know, you know, supposedly saw all these dead 366 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.680 people and she passed that night. I mean, it was 367 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:50.839 kind of wild. 368 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:56.119 I wonder if God does that. And there's I got 369 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:57.240 some more stories. 370 00:20:56.920 --> 00:20:58.960 Like the comfort on them or something before they. 371 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:02.480 Got more stories like that he could be comfort them. 372 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:07.319 But also look what it did to you. Oh yeah, 373 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:09.039 you know, that's like. 374 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:14.279 Whoa There is some you know, even if you add 375 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:19.400 a little doubt, well, there's something to this reassurance or yeah, 376 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:20.359 or reassurance. 377 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.880 Sorry, no, you're good now. I'm just saying I got 378 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:26.960 more stories like that for the future that we'll we'll 379 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:30.039 go into in the future, but that are things that 380 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:35.640 are pretty heavy in that regard. But I do believe that. 381 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:38.119 I believe exactly what you're saying. I think that that 382 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:42.359 God not only gives them peace before they pass, but 383 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:45.880 he also lets us have a glimpse to know that 384 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.160 they're going to be okay, to know that they're going 385 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:55.200 to a place where they're loved. I firmly believe that. 386 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:58.759 But I think that there's different ways that God will 387 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:03.279 comfort us in those kind of times. Way, Wall, I 388 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:05.480 got one more of these. Let's get through this line. 389 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.720 And enjoy this. This is like story time that you're 390 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:12.480 older and you enjoy it. Now we get a nap after. 391 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:17.440 Oh wit, a fruit snack, all right? Last one. 392 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:19.799 I don't know about the fruit snack. 393 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:24.640 But I love fruit snacks. Gushers. They're delicious. 394 00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:28.599 Beef jerky and that's a beef jerky. 395 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:31.279 Is an adult fruit snack. Let's just be honest. That's 396 00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:32.440 a man's fruit snack. 397 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:34.759 I'll agree with that, all right. 398 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:41.039 Kimberly Clark Sharp, aged twenty two, collapsed on the sidewalk 399 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:44.920 outside a motor Vehicle Bureau in Kansas. And then this 400 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.279 is her quote going into what she said, Suddenly there 401 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:50.799