Speaker 1: O friend of that are hello and welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 1: I'm Jacob and it is another Tuesday Night Live. Baby,
Speaker 1: we are ready for the mayhem, sir.
Speaker 2: I'm excited, bro, I this is It's been a wild
Speaker 2: week as far as the Truther community is concerned. Bro,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie like and I'm not even going
Speaker 2: off of the easy ones here, but straight off the top,
Speaker 2: we had an assassination of a fucking insurance CEO, which
Speaker 2: I mean, tell me that that's not just screaming conspiratorial
Speaker 2: right off the top. Right then I find out that
Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin has a secret daughter living as a DJ
Speaker 2: in Paris right now with his lady right who is
Speaker 2: now the richest woman in Russia. It's crazy. And I
Speaker 2: was like, all right, that could be a fun rabbit
Speaker 2: trail to go down, but maybe we will, maybe we won't.
Speaker 3: I just you know, tidbits here and there.
Speaker 2: Then on top of that, Billy Carson does some wild things,
Speaker 2: and then today has continued.
Speaker 3: To dig his hole deeper.
Speaker 2: Let's not even talk about economy things going on around
Speaker 2: the world. China's having a whole situation. A wild week,
Speaker 2: big dog, we all over the place. It's been fucking wild.
Speaker 1: It's sad to see Billy Carson go down in flames
Speaker 1: like this.
Speaker 3: How did you not see this happening? Like a year ago?
Speaker 2: Obviously this was gonna happen anytime he debated somebody who
Speaker 2: was like an expert in truth, of course he was
Speaker 2: gonna get dogged walked. But then he's trying to hit
Speaker 2: people with slap cases. Dude, have you seen what's happening
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 1: Take your victory lap sir. You were right all along.
Speaker 1: You've been calling him a scammer since the beginning.
Speaker 2: But only about the Bible. Like you know, I have
Speaker 2: no dog in the fight about what he's saying about
Speaker 2: Samerian tablets. I may disagree with him, but like my
Speaker 2: source is as equally up in the air as his is,
Speaker 2: So at that point it's just open conjecture, right the
Speaker 2: Christian side of things, That's where I've always just been, like, bro,
Speaker 2: stop talking about Jesus and christ consciousness. You don't know
Speaker 2: what you're talking about whatever. But then, all right, so
Speaker 2: the episode went down, not good for him. Cool goes
Speaker 2: a knock on the door at two thirty in the morning.
Speaker 3: Not a good look.
Speaker 2: Not a good look. I will say I misspoke. He
Speaker 2: didn't bang on the door and all that he knocked.
Speaker 1: He was a gentleman knocked.
Speaker 2: He was a gentleman. But he had legal papers in
Speaker 2: his hand, like he was trying to serve the guy
Speaker 2: cease and desist type papers. Now he's trying to slap
Speaker 2: all these people with slap cases. Do you know what
Speaker 2: a slap case is.
Speaker 1: Sir, I'd never heard of it.
Speaker 2: Actually, it's an acronym slapp And basically it got hot
Speaker 2: in the eighties, right the nineteen eighties when people were like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, well I'll take you to court, and people
Speaker 2: just started suing people just to fucking sue them, right
Speaker 2: and for nothing. That's what a slap case is. Billy
Speaker 2: went on today for three hours, released an episode of
Speaker 2: whatever he calls his program and goes on about how
Speaker 2: he was correct about everything that he was saying, even
Speaker 2: though like again, even the points that he's bringing up
Speaker 2: to justify himself actually disprove himself, and neither or no,
Speaker 2: not that.
Speaker 1: He's hoping that nobody goes back and watches that, because
Speaker 1: I sat it was all day yesterday or today. My
Speaker 1: days are all confused now. But sometime within the last
Speaker 1: twenty four hours I sat and watched the whole thing
Speaker 1: and me too. Yeah, well outside of the parts respectful,
Speaker 1: outside of the parts where like the main narrator, My god,
Speaker 1: was he fucking boring to listen to? He like, just
Speaker 1: leave it to Billy Carson and this biblical scholar.
Speaker 2: I don't need you energy.
Speaker 3: Let's get into the next talking.
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, I just want to tell you
Speaker 1: what my beliefs and what my thoughts are. Nobody gives
Speaker 1: a fuck. Yes, I mean, thank you asked you, bro? Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: let the adult speak, all right, That's all I wanted
Speaker 1: to say in that show.
Speaker 2: I like how the person that went up against Billy
Speaker 2: was very respectful. He he could have, like I said,
Speaker 2: been like a professor Dave type and been an asshole
Speaker 2: the whole time. He was very very nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a fan of how Billy was getting so
Speaker 1: defensive so early, and and that's what that's what really
Speaker 1: bothered me because what was the name of the scholar
Speaker 1: guy again?
Speaker 2: Do you remember? Was it Matt? I'm thinking Matt Walsh.
Speaker 2: But that was because of a something else I watched
Speaker 2: a little bit ago.
Speaker 1: It's like a two short names. But anyway, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: he I mean, he seemed very respectful, very informative, well
Speaker 1: a very fourth giving, very wanting to know where he
Speaker 1: found this, all this information and everything, which I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's easy to just call somebody like a whack job,
Speaker 1: but if you have what you what you claim that
Speaker 1: you have as some sort of evidence that you're pulling
Speaker 1: this from, then we can talk about it. And yeah,
Speaker 1: just Billy wasn't very very well prepared.
Speaker 2: But like, okay, if he could have just taken the L. Okay,
Speaker 2: you took an L. Fine, maybe maybe there's a chink
Speaker 2: in your armor and maybe just about this one subject matter,
Speaker 2: you're not as well versed as you have portrayed. Okay, fine, fine, Cool.
Speaker 2: You go to his house the next morning, hours after
Speaker 2: the interview, meaning like your boy didn't sleep, he was
Speaker 2: up all night scared that his house of cards is
Speaker 2: about to crumble. You go and slap him with papers
Speaker 2: at two thirty in the morning, saying you'll see him
Speaker 2: in court, cease and desist. You are not releasing this episode.
Speaker 2: And the guy's like, oh, yes, the fuck we are.
Speaker 2: He releases it. So Billy goes on a three hour
Speaker 2: rant today where he tries to justify the things he
Speaker 2: was saying did not do good looking at himself here
Speaker 2: he made himself look worse. But okay, fine, fine. Then
Speaker 2: he admits openly on this three hour rant that he
Speaker 2: knows that he's not gonna do anything and like it's
Speaker 2: not gonna go anywhere. He just hopes that they lose
Speaker 2: money in the court proceedings. He's hitting them with lawsuits
Speaker 2: just to where they have to spend money with lawyers
Speaker 2: to see him in court for nothing. Now, what Billy
Speaker 2: has forgot to realize as far as how this works
Speaker 2: with the American legal system, there's a thing called countersuing.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's aware of this or not,
Speaker 2: but he is about to get ass fucked ten ways
Speaker 2: from Sunday from people who didn't want to fight with him,
Speaker 2: but now he's hitting them with paperwork. So they could
Speaker 2: they could be good Christian folk and just be like, listen, listen,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna pursue countersuing. Let's just leave it alone
Speaker 2: and go away, right, Let's just be gentlemen. Or they
Speaker 2: could be assholes and be like Okay, like, let's lawyer up,
Speaker 2: I got that ass, Like, let's go. I don't know
Speaker 2: how it's gonna go.
Speaker 1: Bro, that was the Scholar's name is Wes Huff.
Speaker 2: By the way, that's it, I said, Matt Walsh.
Speaker 1: I mean very well put together, gentleman. I mean, I
Speaker 1: would love to be able to have him on this show.
Speaker 2: Not even and dude, just as a scholar tell me
Speaker 2: the things, the papyrus, the actual printouts, let's fucking talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just for his at least I know that you're
Speaker 1: basically like a walking library at this point. This is
Speaker 1: what you've studied your entire life, as far as at
Speaker 1: least Christianity goes. Was he a theologian or mainly Christian theologian?
Speaker 2: So I'll say he's a Christian theologian. But also when
Speaker 2: you go to theology school and when you get a
Speaker 2: doctorate in it, which he is a doctor also like
Speaker 2: a PhD or PhD in like Christian theology. So like
Speaker 2: your boy is not a half stepper, he is at
Speaker 2: least dedicated eight to ten years of his life to
Speaker 2: the study. You know what I mean. It's like all
Speaker 2: respects and props, but he actually works within the biblical sciences.
Speaker 2: But when you do that, you go and you learn
Speaker 2: about all different types of religions. I mean, hell, I've
Speaker 2: heard of anthropology classes for cultural reasons. You learn at
Speaker 2: least like the bread and butter of each type of
Speaker 2: religion or culture or whatever. So somebody going for theology, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's gonna know at least a little bit at least
Speaker 2: the main talking points of kind of everything. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he's like an expert in biblical for sure.
Speaker 1: O kind well, I mean, he was definitely very well prepared.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you have to get prepared,
Speaker 1: if you stay prepared like that guy, because that guy
Speaker 1: he knew like he just knew it, like it was
Speaker 1: the back of his hand. It's crazy the amount of
Speaker 1: like information can just withhold, like hold insight of that brain.
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, I'm just mesmerized by his ability to
Speaker 1: remember everything like that.
Speaker 2: The three ones that fucked me up. And again, like
Speaker 2: it's not like I was like, yeah, fuck Billy over
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, no, no, no, hatred. I actually was curious
Speaker 2: because Billy makes a lot of claims. I wanted to
Speaker 2: know if there was some conjecture, was it a mistranslation,
Speaker 2: what the case was, whatever, I didn't expect it to
Speaker 2: be completely baseless. And like when your boy was like
Speaker 2: the Sanatica Bible, which, like he there was a clip
Speaker 2: I saw of like fifty different times where Billy has
Speaker 2: quoted this Sanatica Bible quote unquote, never actually from the book,
Speaker 2: but he mentions it, right, and your boy just like
Speaker 2: pulls it off the shelf behind his head and it's like,
Speaker 2: I have it right here, like you mean this one.
Speaker 2: He's like oh oh, and it's like, okay, this is
Speaker 2: gonna be fun. The next woman ever, he brought up
Speaker 2: the uh, the Gospel of the Wife of Jesus or
Speaker 2: whatever whatever, He's like, okay, which one you mean?
Speaker 3: The Spanish or the Italian? And before he even went any.
Speaker 2: Further, I was like, wait a minute, they didn't speak
Speaker 2: Spanish or Italian anywhere on earth when the Bible was written, right,
Speaker 2: uh oh. And then he went on to the Gospel
Speaker 2: Thomas and he's like that's an understood forgery and bump
Speaker 2: up up and I was just like, dude, it wasn't
Speaker 2: a good look. But Billy's actions since then to now
Speaker 2: have only made it worse. And I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: make this, say, a bashed Billy Carson episode. There's tons
Speaker 2: of shit going on, but like that is rather topical
Speaker 2: as far as the truth or community is concerned.
Speaker 1: You're still welcome on the show, Billy.
Speaker 2: I really hope that he does come on and again,
Speaker 2: not so ar could have my turn. No, Like, he
Speaker 2: is well versed and a lot of shit I've never
Speaker 2: heard of. I would love to have him on the
Speaker 2: show to talk about those things, for sure.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, I think that why you had
Speaker 1: a problem with him for the longest time is kind
Speaker 1: of his main drawback, and that is like taking all
Speaker 1: these different religions and philosophies and everything and saying, see,
Speaker 1: this is the truth. Christianity's been lying to you or
Speaker 1: they just plagiarized everything, and like, uh, that's going to
Speaker 1: get clicks, no doubt it will get the most amount
Speaker 1: of clicks as humanly possible. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: why he actually did in the first place, at least
Speaker 1: as far as his you know, uh ideology around Christianity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get that there's tons of content creators
Speaker 2: that shit on the Bible and that's like their brand.
Speaker 2: And fine, I may disagree with them. I may not
Speaker 2: like them, but it's not Billy was different. And I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be honest, the only reason why I even know
Speaker 2: who this dude is is because of our Emerald Tablet episode.
Speaker 2: I had never heard I had seen clips of this
Speaker 2: guy talking about things from time to I've never known
Speaker 2: anything about him or like more in depth about it.
Speaker 2: He seemed like another fucking Woo woo content creator. I
Speaker 2: just kind of let it go as that, right, But
Speaker 2: the more I looked into it, It's like, Okay, he
Speaker 2: keeps talking about Toti Atlantian, he keeps talking about these
Speaker 2: Emerald tablets.
Speaker 3: And the more I looked into it and I learned.
Speaker 2: That he was quoting straight from Doctor doriol, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: so he's like completely retarded, Like this guy claims to
Speaker 2: be really smart, but he's quoting from books that are
Speaker 2: like written by cult leaders.
Speaker 3: And so the more I looked from.
Speaker 2: There, it was like, Okay, so this guy is like
Speaker 2: an interesting guy to talk to and he's got some
Speaker 2: interesting viewpoints, but like from the get go, I pretty
Speaker 2: much just like took it as he's clueless. Then I
Speaker 2: looked into the truth about Billy Carson and all these
Speaker 2: people claim, and he's a Charlottean and he's selling these
Speaker 2: products on his website. Look fine, he's making money.
Speaker 3: And it's like, look, I could take it as just
Speaker 3: he's a.
Speaker 2: Content creator who is doing these things and talking about
Speaker 2: interesting content. That's wonderful. Hell yeah, dude, that's freedom of
Speaker 2: speech to start coming after people's religion, not just Christianity.
Speaker 2: He's come after different religious ideologies, and to do it
Speaker 2: in a smug fashion, like you know so much whenever.
Speaker 2: It's really really easy to show that you don't like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it just kind of yeah, you're right about that
Speaker 2: smugness about him and I you know, at the end
Speaker 2: of the show, well, I didn't meet him, like, I
Speaker 2: didn't shake his hand or anything.
Speaker 1: I was just in the same theater as he was.
Speaker 3: Oh much, y'all pay for the meet and greet or whatever.
Speaker 1: No, dude, we were, we were going to. But it
Speaker 1: was supersp It was like four hundred dollars to do that.
Speaker 2: That dude's been making money hand over fist off of
Speaker 2: this shit.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah he has.
Speaker 2: People have been paying him money, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, and and that's not to ship all over
Speaker 1: all of his research it's it's I mean, look, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that much research and spend that much
Speaker 1: time in trying to decode a lot of the the
Speaker 1: ancient scriptures and all that kind of stuff, I mean,
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. I mean, that's that's no different
Speaker 1: than us doing research for a show and then putting
Speaker 1: it up for the podcast for everybody to listen. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing. And so I'm not gonna sit here
Speaker 1: and say that he was like like one hundred percent
Speaker 1: like an expert like he claims. I don't think that
Speaker 1: he's an expert. No, I think that he's He's a
Speaker 1: curious person who has drawn a couple lines together, and
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. But don't call yourself an expert.
Speaker 2: If he called himself an expert in this when it
Speaker 2: was clear that he hadn't even read the book that
Speaker 2: he was claiming to know so much about.
Speaker 3: I personally questioned his translation of like, you know.
Speaker 2: Hieroglyphs and shit, because if this is the level of
Speaker 2: intention he put behind the Bible, the book that like,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna stir a pot, you know you're stirring
Speaker 2: a pot. By questioning this one, I would really personally
Speaker 2: have a hard time with anything else. But maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was more of his forte. The Bible was
Speaker 2: more of like a back burner thing for him in
Speaker 2: his studies. I don't know very well.
Speaker 1: Very well could have been. Let's get over to the
Speaker 1: chat here and then say hi to everybody, all the
Speaker 1: good Gold members. Welcome back to the Tuesday Night Live show.
Speaker 1: Everyone's favorite Wasion Samuel said, Raise Hail, motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: Raise on Praisdale, Samuel, How are you, sir? How high
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 1: His eyes aren't squinty, squinty, it's high. How are you?
Speaker 2: I knew you were gonna take that, dude. Yes, indeed,
Speaker 2: you're right, though, Johnathy, he didn't have the full on
Speaker 2: Southeast Asian look to him just yet.
Speaker 1: Not yet, not yet. I'm sure he'll get there at
Speaker 1: some point.
Speaker 4: I just barked up the first one of the day, so.
Speaker 2: Damn getting a late start, Samuel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I've pretty much slept all day,
Speaker 4: so nice.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not really somebody that's typically big into
Speaker 1: like the weed gummies, but my sister gave me a
Speaker 1: pack because she tried it, and I guess she got
Speaker 1: way too high or whatever, so so she gave it
Speaker 1: to me, and uh, me and my wife have been like,
Speaker 1: they're just coming like these little squares, right.
Speaker 2: How strong are there? They're not those space gods ones
Speaker 2: on the ones you get the gas station.
Speaker 1: I don't, no, I don't. I don't know like measurements
Speaker 1: and milligrams and shit like that. I'm sure it says
Speaker 1: on the bag, but either way, they're pretty strong. And
Speaker 1: so what we've been doing is we've been cutting them
Speaker 1: into three and uh so we'll each take a third
Speaker 1: and uh lat And we've been doing that for like
Speaker 1: a week now, just getting really high and watching Rick
Speaker 1: and Morty right as.
Speaker 3: Is proper as its proper.
Speaker 2: But yo, good for you for like, that's called that's
Speaker 2: called responsibility.
Speaker 1: That's what I like to say.
Speaker 2: It's just one gummy. It might be ten milligrams. Look, bro,
Speaker 2: look bro, I'm not trying to get too crazy. Year
Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut that bitch in the thirds and have
Speaker 2: me a nice little evening. That's that's adult moves, Jonathan.
Speaker 1: Until I pulled a childish move last night and I said,
Speaker 1: I wonder what two thirds will do to me?
Speaker 2: And and it was great. I thought, you're gonna take
Speaker 2: two whole ones. I was say, fuck it, let's go there. No,
Speaker 2: I'm still on the I'm still on the baby steps.
Speaker 2: But I took two thirds of this and I'm a
Speaker 2: lightweight now. I have been ingesting THC every single night
Speaker 2: since I was seventeen years old. I've just never built
Speaker 2: up a tolerance to it, and I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Actually I'm jealous. But anyway, I took two thirds of it.
Speaker 2: Last night, I was trying to go to sleep. I
Speaker 2: was really tired. We're watching Rick and Morning. Ended up
Speaker 2: going to sleep afterward.
Speaker 1: And dude, I had a full lawn head trip last night.
Speaker 1: Like it was so much that I was tripping.
Speaker 2: Really from weed gummies, dude, dude.
Speaker 1: And that's what they say, like if you eat too
Speaker 1: much weed gummy, you can't like actually have something similar
Speaker 1: to a mushroom trip.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 1: I was like literally spinning my head in circles last night.
Speaker 1: It was too much, like I lost the grasp of
Speaker 1: reality there for a little bit, Like I went down
Speaker 1: into the rabbit hole and I forgot that I ever
Speaker 1: even went in. I just got lost in the void.
Speaker 1: It was it was a little too much.
Speaker 2: So a couple of thanksgivings ago me and somehow little padnas.
Speaker 2: We have friends giving right cool, and we have that
Speaker 2: one friend that's like the stoner of the group. Okay,
Speaker 2: and he came with some edibles and he didn't make them.
Speaker 2: These these are gummies that were in a sealed and
Speaker 2: all that. But he had a couple of these individual
Speaker 2: gummies and then he had a pack of like twenty
Speaker 2: of them in one bag or whatever the case was
Speaker 2: at the time. You know, I had a job where
Speaker 2: I was getting pissed tested. I wasn't partaking, but like cool,
Speaker 2: you know whatever. They didn't read the dosage on these packs.
Speaker 2: My buddy who brought them, he's a stoner. He didn't care.
Speaker 3: He was popping my candy as he saw a fit.
Speaker 2: You know. My other two buddies that were there, they
Speaker 2: didn't They didn't smoke weed a lot. They're not stoners.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say an amount out loud, and certain
Speaker 2: people who know about weed will be like what the fuck.
Speaker 2: The rest of them be like, uh, is that a lot? Okay?
Speaker 2: The gummy that was individually wrapped, each of these were
Speaker 2: seven hundred milligrams okay, one gummy and then they ate
Speaker 2: two one fifty gummies a piece, so like so a
Speaker 2: seven hundred and then three hundred behind that, all within
Speaker 2: the course of about twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: That's some Joey Diaz shit right there.
Speaker 2: That is. And they didn't know that. But when it
Speaker 2: hit one of them, who is not religious, doesn't believe
Speaker 2: in God or anything, went outside and had a full
Speaker 2: conversation with Jesus Christ himself, and I think may have
Speaker 2: given his heart to God that day. Not sure, not
Speaker 2: sure that he woke up with a different perspective, but
Speaker 2: definitely still an atheist. The other guy, who is a Christian,
Speaker 2: said that he was being chased around his house all
Speaker 2: night by a demon, and when I tried getting him
Speaker 2: to explain it to me, he grabbed a sticky note
Speaker 2: and a pin and etched out a figure. It looked
Speaker 2: like the Grinch, like how the Grinch stole Christmas. It
Speaker 2: looked like the old doctor SEUs One was like chasing
Speaker 2: him around the house. Apparently this was from weed gummies, sir,
Speaker 2: only they didn't even drink this night.
Speaker 1: You can, That's what I'm trying to say, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: you can absolutely have a full lawn hallucinogenic effect if
Speaker 1: you eat too much weed gummies. Matter of fact, read
Speaker 1: some of the some of the messages over here. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go grab that back and see how many it is.
Speaker 2: Okay, yoh yeah, yeay, go ahead and do that.
Speaker 3: I'm actually very pre very curious myself.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see here LFG cult fam Let's fucking go.
Speaker 2: Uh blue collar rockstar love the name. Uh see. Billy
Speaker 2: Carson always struck me as cocu bananas. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Same.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to believe it, but it kind of
Speaker 2: just got worse the more I looked into him, the
Speaker 2: more it just was like, Yeah, this guy's kind of
Speaker 2: either a either A he's a full fledged charlatan and
Speaker 2: knows that he is, which makes him a piece of shit,
Speaker 2: or B he is a content creator who has maybe
Speaker 2: gone a little too big for his breeches, but like
Speaker 2: has kind of just let it snowball into its own thing,
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, I get it, I get it. There's
Speaker 2: no hatred here, but yeah, I'm with you. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 2: Everybody's favorite Wasian. Hey, Jacob, I got a joke about
Speaker 2: surfer marines. Oh you mean California marines?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 7: What is hey?
Speaker 4: What is a Subfermine's favorite weapon.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's a sad dude.
Speaker 6: Nice.
Speaker 2: That's great, that's great. And yeah, I've heard that now
Speaker 2: the West Coast is taking female recruits. Oh I am,
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 3: And come to find out, just talked.
Speaker 2: To a active duty Air Force staff sergeant or whatever
Speaker 2: the rank about the gunny marine whatever East seven is
Speaker 2: for Air Force people. But yeah, so apparently if you
Speaker 2: want to do a sex change while in the military,
Speaker 2: I thought that they were talking about it. I know
Speaker 2: you have read articles about things being proposed. Oh no, no,
Speaker 2: real life, if you join as a dude, then decide
Speaker 2: you want to be a chick while in they will
Speaker 2: pay for the surgery and they'll pay for your hormone
Speaker 2: treatments afterward. Now, I was under the impression that if
Speaker 2: you joined as a whatever gender and you already had
Speaker 2: a surgery beforehand, they would take you as that gender.
Speaker 2: But like, they're not paying for your hormones, Like it'd
Speaker 2: be on you to maintain your shit. But like, sure,
Speaker 2: we'll play your game if you want. No, they could
Speaker 2: do that completely. The active duty and the taxpayers are
Speaker 2: absolutely funding the mutilation of these dudes genitals to become females.
Speaker 2: So they can get better times on their runs and
Speaker 2: pet scores and shit, it's insane.
Speaker 1: Here's the article right here. This is from twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one Army to provide gender transition care and surgeries for
Speaker 1: transgender soldiers.
Speaker 2: I thought that this was still like a idea, like
Speaker 2: something they were pushing for. I didn't realize that it
Speaker 2: was real life. As they keep going on about, we
Speaker 2: were on the precipice of World War III. Recruiting numbers
Speaker 2: are down thousands and thousands. We need to let them
Speaker 2: swap GENDERSNA. That's gonna make them flood to the recruiting office. Bro,
Speaker 2: are you out your fucking mind.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have a bullshit reason. I just don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. Let's read this article and see
Speaker 1: what it says.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: This is from military dot com.
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah yeah, And it.
Speaker 1: Says transgender soldiers can openly serve in the Army and
Speaker 1: the force will provide hormone therapy, mental health care and
Speaker 1: surgeries that they might require. To a force wide memo
Speaker 1: issued out last week, this directive supersedes all previous guidance.
Speaker 1: Major General Douglas Stitt, Director of the Army g one
Speaker 1: Military Personnel Management Office. He says the Army is open
Speaker 1: to all who It is open to all who can
Speaker 1: meet the standards. No otherwise qualified soldiers may be discharged
Speaker 1: or denied service solely on the basis of gender identity.
Speaker 1: They It says the soldiers gender identity will no longer
Speaker 1: be a cause for involuntary separation, denied reenlistment, or other
Speaker 1: adverse action. According to the memo, the Army's new policy
Speaker 1: follows President Joe Biden's executive order on his first week
Speaker 1: in office in January, repealing a Trump era ban on
Speaker 1: transgender troops. So this was one of the very first
Speaker 1: things that Biden did when he came into office under Obama.
Speaker 2: Don't ask, don tel got repealed, right, and then it
Speaker 2: started the social experiments within the military. Biden gets into office,
Speaker 2: rule one first thing we gotta do. We gotta let
Speaker 2: them transition. Doug, all Right, Maybe maybe I'm a bigot,
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm a little bit prejudiced when it comes to
Speaker 2: this group, and I don't hate the transgender community. If
Speaker 2: you're a grown ass adult and you want to lop
Speaker 2: your dick off, by all means you're a free person,
Speaker 2: do it safely and don't don't hurt children. That's pretty
Speaker 2: much where I'm at right But as a veteran, I
Speaker 2: would feel weird because this person clearly has the history
Speaker 2: of swapping sides. I don't know if i'd want them
Speaker 2: to be on a garrison with me somewhere. What happens
Speaker 2: if they just wake up and decide they're Taliban now
Speaker 2: because it's a feeling deep within them. What am I
Speaker 2: supposed to do with that? Okay, maybe I'm just bigoted,
Speaker 2: and maybe trannies aren't actually that retarded. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I just there's obvious evidence to the contrary.
Speaker 3: That's just where I'm at.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Army of zero, what's up, my dude?
Speaker 5: Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 8: So I was actually in the military and I'm still
Speaker 8: in the military.
Speaker 5: I'm in the Army.
Speaker 8: During the Trump era. And it wasn't a ban that
Speaker 8: is a I don't even I can't even think of
Speaker 8: the word right now, but that's what it's been portrayed as.
Speaker 8: What it was was that if you were already gone
Speaker 8: through a full transition and joined the military, you would
Speaker 8: be allowed to, but the military wouldn't pay you for
Speaker 8: your transition, and it wouldn't pay for your hormone treatments,
Speaker 8: and you wouldn't be allowed to transition while on active service.
Speaker 8: If you had already transitioned, it was fine, there was
Speaker 8: no ban.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought it was. You could be that.
Speaker 2: But like, you're on your own to pay for your hormones.
Speaker 2: We're not paying for your testosterone because you have a vagina,
Speaker 2: and you're claiming you have low t like no fucking shit,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know gup. Well, so I gotta say,
Speaker 2: I don't know how many females transition to males in
Speaker 2: the military, because that means you're hailed to the male
Speaker 2: pt standard. So I want to know how many women
Speaker 2: are out there or alleged women. Hi, my name's Jeffrey,
Speaker 2: even though their names actually like Tiffany. I want to
Speaker 2: see that chick pull twenty pull ups at the next PFT.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. You know, if we're going to
Speaker 2: keep it fair and balanced, let's keep it super equal.
Speaker 2: But no, they lowered the male standards to match the
Speaker 2: tranny's abilities. It's fucking wild.
Speaker 3: I forgot warfare lowered the standards as well.
Speaker 2: I forgot I forgot zombie ye.
Speaker 9: Do they have to be full transition, like remove genitals
Speaker 9: to be able to be like in squad bays and
Speaker 9: stuff with females like I'm.
Speaker 2: Curious, well intact fully functional dick and balls, able to
Speaker 2: produce children and impregnate women and all that. But because
Speaker 2: of their feelings and because of the low amount of
Speaker 2: testosterone that they may or may not have, when a
Speaker 2: blood test that totally a female totally can put them
Speaker 2: in the squad bay, everything's fine.
Speaker 1: Well, it says right here, it says transgender candidates previously
Speaker 1: had to serve in their biological sex and prove that
Speaker 1: they had been mentally and physically stable for thirty six
Speaker 1: months before enlisting or commissioning in the army. Under the
Speaker 1: new police.
Speaker 2: Stop, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. That one sentence alone makes
Speaker 2: no fucking sense. A tranny had to make sure they
Speaker 2: were mentally competent to what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, they had to prove to the military that
Speaker 1: they were mentally and physically stable, probably some some kind
Speaker 1: of I'm gon'd.
Speaker 2: Be like saying, somebody who's illiterate had to prove that
Speaker 2: they couldn't read what do you mean?
Speaker 3: Obviously?
Speaker 2: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: Well, under the new policy, new recruits can serve in
Speaker 1: their self identified gender and only have to demonstrate eighteen
Speaker 1: prior months of stability. That timeline can also be waived
Speaker 1: in certain circumstances, according to the new policy. Check this
Speaker 1: shit out, though. It says applicants to join the Army
Speaker 1: must have a US passport or certified copy of a
Speaker 1: court order reflecting their self identified gender, and then it
Speaker 1: goes into it is unclear how many transgender troops there are.
Speaker 1: Defense Department data shows that there are seven hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty six soldiers serving in the Army who have been
Speaker 1: diagnosed with gender dysphoria, the most out of all the branches.
Speaker 1: The DoD shows five hundred and seventy six transgender service
Speaker 1: members in the Navy, four hundred and forty nine in
Speaker 1: the Air Force, and one hundred and forty one in
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps. But the data could skew See y'all
Speaker 1: got the least them out, there's no fucking shit, But
Speaker 1: the data could skew low given the likelihood of additional
Speaker 1: troops who never sought a formal diagnosis.
Speaker 2: So uh oh heay way baus, hold the fuck, Hold
Speaker 2: the fuck. I did some quick math on that I'm
Speaker 2: not doing the exact figuring because we're not that level
Speaker 2: of autism here now listen, So we're saying shit that
Speaker 2: we are talking sub fifteen hundred, not thousand, not thousands
Speaker 2: of members that are just like being oppressed.
Speaker 3: We are talking about under.
Speaker 2: Fifteen hundred human beings that can't figure out what their
Speaker 2: genitals mean, and we are passing new laws military wide
Speaker 2: to accommodate fifteen hundred fucking idiots. This is this is America, y'all.
Speaker 2: This is what the social experiments that's happening with our military.
Speaker 2: This is wonderful. Well and remember for the progress.
Speaker 1: This was back in twenty twenty one, but it says
Speaker 1: Earlier this month, Military dot Com reported that the Pentagon
Speaker 1: has spent fifteen million dollars in the past five years
Speaker 1: to treat one thousand, eight hundred and ninety two transgender troops,
Speaker 1: including eleven point five million for psychotherapy and three point
Speaker 1: one million for surgeries, a relative drop in the bucket
Speaker 1: compared to the mammoth thirty five point six billion or
Speaker 1: discretionary healthcare spending it in the proposed twenty twenty two budget.
Speaker 2: Okay, whooh ooh, this is gonna get me hot. I
Speaker 2: didn't even realize they're gonna take this fucking left tonight.
Speaker 2: But here we are.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, let me read this last part. I think
Speaker 1: you'll like go ahead please. According to the Defense Health Agency,
Speaker 1: the surgeries were performed in military health facilities and included
Speaker 1: removal of testicles or breasts, hysterectomies, and labiaplasty.
Speaker 2: Okay, fifteen million dollars were spent in five years to
Speaker 2: accommodate less than two thousand people. Keep in mind, when
Speaker 2: you join the military, you join a group, the individual
Speaker 2: aspect of things, like I'm a person, the fuck you are,
Speaker 2: You're a number in the group. That's how this goes.
Speaker 2: That's why we shave our heads at boot camp. That's
Speaker 2: why you're referred to as your last name and nothing else.
Speaker 2: You are that. It is not you and I, it
Speaker 2: is we, the team, how it's supposed to be. So
Speaker 2: eighteen hundred people spent fifteen million dollars, and they are
Speaker 2: now saying a drop in the bucket when you look
Speaker 2: at the entire medical budget of the military. Fucking what,
Speaker 2: that's fifteen million that didn't need to get spent when
Speaker 2: you could have just admin sept them like you used
Speaker 2: to do. The every gay person in Vietnam or anybody
Speaker 2: from the eighties that popped on a drug test that
Speaker 2: you didn't want to.
Speaker 3: Go for dishonorable, you'd admin scept them.
Speaker 2: That's how this works. That's what it's four. But no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we'll go ahead and spend fifteen million dollars to accommodate
Speaker 2: these fuckers. Yeah, that's wonderful, wonderful, and then eleven million
Speaker 2: of that was spent on mental health. Oh it doesn't.
Speaker 2: We need to kick them the fuck out.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't stop there, It says. The Army's policy
Speaker 1: follows the Department of Veterans Affairs announcement that they too,
Speaker 1: would provide gender confirmation surgery to transgender veterans. So Jacob,
Speaker 1: you're a chance. You're not too late, bro, you can
Speaker 1: still do it.
Speaker 2: No, that's not mad at that one. If somebody's that desperate, Like, okay, Jonathan,
Speaker 2: all cards on the table here, hold on now, if
Speaker 2: a dude or chick served in the military honorably and
Speaker 2: then they decided ten years after they get out that
Speaker 2: you know what. My name might be Steven, but I
Speaker 2: really feel like Natasha, Like okay, fine, fine, and you
Speaker 2: want to risk getting your dick and balls removed from
Speaker 2: a VA surgeon. You're willing to go to back to
Speaker 2: that level, you know what, you know what, get after it.
Speaker 2: I support it. You're willing to let the VA perform
Speaker 2: the gender reassignment surgery. All right, all right, you won't
Speaker 2: hear a peep out of me. You obviously really want
Speaker 2: this done, so like cool, you you deserve it. If
Speaker 2: you survive the encounter, then you get your fucking gender.
Speaker 7: Dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of like that's kind of like a
Speaker 1: good will of all hospitals.
Speaker 2: Like this is the wish dot com of the TEAMU,
Speaker 2: that's what this is. I'm sorry, Zombie had your hand
Speaker 2: raised for a minute. I didn't mean to bypass you there,
Speaker 2: but like it just kind of went too deep there, Zombie,
Speaker 2: you had your hand, Rais, go ahead.
Speaker 9: Bendy's curious about how much money they've like instead of
Speaker 9: spending that money on potential sexual assault victims male and
Speaker 9: female alike, Like they gave this money instead to this
Speaker 9: group of people, or about domestic of violence that happens
Speaker 9: in the military, or about our gear falling apart, because
Speaker 9: it's like fun, fucking Vietnam, but like we get handing downs.
Speaker 9: I'm just like, hmm, I'm trying to understand.
Speaker 10: So you didn't even say that they remove their penises,
Speaker 10: that they just remove their testicles, some of them. So
Speaker 10: you're saying like full in tact males. No, I would
Speaker 10: have a knife to that dude's throat in a heartbeat
Speaker 10: in a squad bay. I'm not sleeping next to no
Speaker 10: fucking man, if like it's just us and them now. Yes,
Speaker 10: I granted I sleppt next to them in twenty four
Speaker 10: to seven and I trust them, but like that's a
Speaker 10: different scenario putting him in a situation where like now
Speaker 10: we're consistently naked around each other and like you're fully intact.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I don't know, Maybe I'm crazy, but that
Speaker 2: screams recipe for disaster. I felt the same way about
Speaker 2: when they put females in infantry frontline units. I felt
Speaker 2: like that was a recipe for disaster. Is there a
Speaker 2: way to properly do that? Maybe is the way that
Speaker 2: it was done the right way? Fuck no, which is
Speaker 2: why that's gone so horribly sound. I don't think I've
Speaker 2: heard one positive story like one from at least Marine
Speaker 2: Corps Infantry. I can't speak to the the females that
Speaker 2: went through like ranger school and like it was a
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, same same shit, Samuel, Samuel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, going back to the I was on bet signing
Speaker 4: a couple of cycles after me, I watched the like
Speaker 4: the last three cycles I was on the p I four,
Speaker 4: I watched uh Alpha Company, Bravo Company, Charlie, then Dirty Delta,
Speaker 4: just fucking bitches. They all became co ed, and I
Speaker 4: was like, I legitimate when I heard that my senior
Speaker 4: d I was he became my d I and b BNP,
Speaker 4: which was a medical platoon. Anyway, when you.
Speaker 2: Say co ed, do you mean they were in the
Speaker 2: same squad bait or they just had a sister element
Speaker 2: attached to them for like ranges and shit.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, it's they were leading the same building
Speaker 4: across Shut up, I.
Speaker 2: Bullshit, same company, different squad bays, Like they had a
Speaker 2: female squad bay at least.
Speaker 4: Yes, but I believe that therefore intention was to completely integrate.
Speaker 4: They have female dis on male squads now, and they
Speaker 4: have male dyes on female squads, Like, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, it doesn't scream recipe for a disaster if I've
Speaker 2: ever fucking heard of one.
Speaker 4: I had a buddy of mine who got a chick
Speaker 4: pregnant going basic by going to the Mormon Church. Mormon Church.
Speaker 4: Sorry speech impediment, but no.
Speaker 2: Wait, you got a dude go to Mormon's service and
Speaker 2: get a chick pregnant?
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 4: What? Yeah? Yeah, no, nog Like, that's just a recipe
Speaker 4: for disaster. And but but no, dude, how you you
Speaker 4: talked about the people who got admin set for basic shit, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I got a in set for anxiety.
Speaker 2: So yeah, admincept used to be what they would give
Speaker 2: specifically to homosexuals that they were ever outed. Right, that
Speaker 2: was how it was, and I'm not saying that to
Speaker 2: shit on you. It changed in the post nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: right when they started doing the drawdown. They started finding
Speaker 2: ways to set great people that wouldn't be honorable, wouldn't
Speaker 2: be dishonorable. They didn't want to pay out VA claims,
Speaker 2: but they also didn't want to like stick you with
Speaker 2: something that would follow you and be like a felony charge.
Speaker 2: They would like it was like their polite way of
Speaker 2: showing you the door. And that's what it became towards
Speaker 2: the end of the post nine to eleven wars.
Speaker 4: No, No, I get all the benefits that set the
Speaker 4: GI bill. That's the only thing I don't get.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. Within admin separation, they could
Speaker 2: put stipulations in there like, uh, you know, you're still
Speaker 2: eligible for VA or you're non eligible or they I
Speaker 2: had one of my buddies who they admin stept him,
Speaker 2: but they did it in such a way to where
Speaker 2: he couldn't go to a different branch because initially he
Speaker 2: wanted he was like a staff sergeant. He wanted to
Speaker 2: go to the army.
Speaker 3: They put some sort of classification on his paperwork to.
Speaker 2: Where like you're out and you're honorably out, but you're
Speaker 2: also not joining anything else either, like you're done done.
Speaker 2: So they do all kinds of different stipulations, but the
Speaker 2: admin separation gives them that gray area to do that.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad you didn't get fucked out of that
Speaker 2: at least.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I got fucked out of my medical discharge though,
Speaker 4: But that's because I I did something that I did
Speaker 4: the right thing morally and ethically, but it bit me
Speaker 4: in my ass.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that morals l gets you every time he
Speaker 2: told the truth, didn't you.
Speaker 4: No, I got in a fistfight where they hire enlisted
Speaker 4: because he tried to force himself on one of my
Speaker 4: female marines.
Speaker 2: Oh word, okay, So you got Adam in Sept for that,
Speaker 2: and he probably got a promotion. It'd be like that.
Speaker 4: I got Adam and Sept for being undeployable due to anxiety.
Speaker 4: Oh buddy, I saw buddy mine get stabbed and it
Speaker 4: fucked me up.
Speaker 2: Wow, that'll do it, Samuel. I'm sorry to hear that, brother. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Brother, Well look in other words, there's another piece of
Speaker 1: not not to shift there from you, sam I love you, buddy.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we can shift. We've gone on the veteran
Speaker 2: in the in the talk of that we can we
Speaker 2: can shift conversations. Hell you?
Speaker 1: So have you heard of the New Jersey senator calling
Speaker 1: for a limited state of emergency here lately?
Speaker 2: Have I have?
Speaker 1: Indeed, I was helping the end. You had seen that
Speaker 1: before we got into it tonight.
Speaker 2: So, and I don't know if that's in regards to
Speaker 2: the assassination in New York City or if that's in
Speaker 2: regards to a whole other thing. Maybe he's using it
Speaker 2: to kind of fuel the fire of oh oh, things
Speaker 2: are getting serious. We need to be scared. I don't know,
Speaker 2: what have you heard, Jonathan.
Speaker 1: Oh this is on like UFOs?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're calling them drones, so it could be drones,
Speaker 1: but nobody's claiming them and what Yeah, dude, it's fucking insane.
Speaker 2: And this is different. I had the thing that pulled
Speaker 2: up that I want to talk about with the assassination,
Speaker 2: Like remember how they were saying it was a veterinary weapon. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: I have a video that I wanted to pull up,
Speaker 2: and we only need to play a few minutes of
Speaker 2: it'd be like a decent breakdown of from weapons experts
Speaker 2: of what they believe we're taking place and everything. And yeah,
Speaker 2: but okay, no, this is going first. What the fuck?
Speaker 1: All right? So this was this morning as of timer
Speaker 1: recording on Tuesday, it was literally this morning. And now
Speaker 1: they're putting out a possible limited state of emergency as
Speaker 1: a result of this in New Jersey. Because there's been
Speaker 1: thousands of people who have who have seen these wild
Speaker 1: like weird sightings, and I think that most people aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily calling them UFOs. They're mainly being understood as like
Speaker 1: just a wild grouping of drones, but nobody knows exactly
Speaker 1: where they're coming from it. But anyway, this is a
Speaker 1: Newsweek article that was written earlier today. I'll just read
Speaker 1: it briefly. It says the FBI has issued a statement
Speaker 1: addressing ongoing mystery drone sightings that have now spread from
Speaker 1: New Jersey to New York, urging public cooperation in their investigation.
Speaker 1: It comes as residents in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn reported drones
Speaker 1: on Sunday night, joining numerous sightings across New Jersey in
Speaker 1: recent weeks. The sightings, which began in November, have alarmed
Speaker 1: residents in neighboring New Jersey. Drones have been reported reportedly
Speaker 1: been spotted near the Picatinny Arsenal, a US military facility,
Speaker 1: and President elect Donald Trump's Beadminister golf course, and it
Speaker 1: says in response, the FAA temporary temporarily restricted drone flights
Speaker 1: over these locations. And their quote is it says, we
Speaker 1: understand the concern that we are doing all we can
Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on. That is a spokeswoman
Speaker 1: for the FBI. She goes, we truly don't have much
Speaker 1: information to provide at the moment, and so what people
Speaker 1: are seeing is essentially like this. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is a clear yeah, this is just a stock
Speaker 1: image of a drone. But what people have been recording
Speaker 1: is like these videos sounds like a drone like that
Speaker 1: that fucking humming. Yeah. And and they also have like
Speaker 1: these red and green like flashing lights on them like
Speaker 1: most drones would like this one does, and so many
Speaker 1: of them, but nobody knows exactly where the hell they're
Speaker 1: coming from. And it's gotten so crazy that literally ever
Speaker 1: since then, the New Jersey senator calls for a limited
Speaker 1: state of emergency as drone mystery deepens. So it says
Speaker 1: Senator John Bramnick said Tuesday that the band should last
Speaker 1: until the public receives an explanation regarding these multiple sightings
Speaker 1: thank you. Um and it says drones have been spotted
Speaker 1: flying overhead at night in eight New Jersey County so far,
Speaker 1: dating back to the week before Thanksgiving. Last week, Murphy
Speaker 1: posted on social media that he had met with Secretary
Speaker 1: Alejandro Majorca's, members of the Federal Department of Homeland Security,
Speaker 1: state police, and members of the Garden State's congressional delegation
Speaker 1: to quote unquote discuss reported drone activity over parts of
Speaker 1: north and central New Jersey. They said, we are actively
Speaker 1: monitoring the situation and in close coordination with our federal
Speaker 1: and law enforcement partners on this matter. So it's interesting
Speaker 1: the areas at which this is going down because they
Speaker 1: mentioned one of Trump's golf courses. And I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: a drone could literally be anybody. You can. You can
Speaker 1: control the drone literally from anywhere on the earth, like
Speaker 1: as long as you have it in the range, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean not if it's controlled over the Internet, that's fair.
Speaker 2: If it's like off of a satellite, you know, ping
Speaker 2: or something like that, I guess you could control it
Speaker 2: from anywhere. But so on, At first it was UFOs.
Speaker 2: Now we're here in mystery drone is it?
Speaker 6: One?
Speaker 2: Is it? The other? Is at both?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: No, the people that are just outside documenting it, they're
Speaker 1: thinking that it's a UFO because it's it's doing weird
Speaker 1: maneuvers like some of the UFOs have been doing. But
Speaker 1: drones they can stop on a dime and go ninety
Speaker 1: degrees the other way in an instant anyway for the
Speaker 1: most some of them, anyway, the more powered, like more
Speaker 1: expensive ones.
Speaker 2: But yeah, let me. Let me ask you this, do
Speaker 2: you remember a Chinese weather balloon.
Speaker 1: We just so happened to be on our way that way,
Speaker 1: whatever that was happening.
Speaker 2: Right into South Carolina, it was under it was over
Speaker 2: us technically speaking, at one point in time. I just
Speaker 2: have a hard time believing that even if it was
Speaker 2: a drone from a foreign country or whatever, that like
Speaker 2: America would do anything about it, at least right now.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he was a UFO, Maybe it
Speaker 2: was one hundred percent of drone. Maybe it was some
Speaker 2: kid playing with one and that's why it didn't show
Speaker 2: some sort of signature. Maybe it was absolutely Maybe it
Speaker 2: was our own government spying on us.
Speaker 1: Dude, Well, this says this is actually like a like
Speaker 1: a map that showing it's a legend, that showing all
Speaker 1: of the different drone sightings in just this one county.
Speaker 1: It looks like and it says the Monmouth Monmouth. Is
Speaker 1: it Monmouth or Monmouth?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's a myth anyway. The county, the sheriff Mommouth, Okay,
Speaker 1: the Mammouth County Sheriff's office published a map that shows
Speaker 1: where drones have been seen, along with how often they've
Speaker 1: been seen. Mani Planned Township, Marlboro Township, Freehold, Keyport, uh
Speaker 1: Union Beach, and Keensburg seemingly have the highest number of
Speaker 1: drones spotting based on the map. So you can see him.
Speaker 1: This is all over the place. This isn't This isn't.
Speaker 1: This ain't just like one little drone that's showing up.
Speaker 1: It's like they're all over the damn place.
Speaker 2: And you can tell how dim or bright they are.
Speaker 2: That's like the frequency of people calling in and reporting
Speaker 2: what they're seeing. This is. This is almost reminiscent of
Speaker 2: the glowing orbs that people saw and called in about
Speaker 2: years ago, the one in Russia or or was it
Speaker 2: China that started fires and shit, the one that flew
Speaker 2: over our nuclear base and kind of got the weapons
Speaker 2: ready to fire and things like that. Look, is it
Speaker 2: possible that this is like your boy bledsoe?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, because they're not saying that it's orb.
Speaker 1: They're they're calling drone.
Speaker 2: Okay. So even the people that are reporting here saying
Speaker 2: that it's a drone, okay.
Speaker 1: I believe. So it says this is from the Lieutenant
Speaker 1: Colonel Craig A.
Speaker 2: Bottom.
Speaker 1: The second he's the is it Picatinny Picatinny. I don't
Speaker 1: know Picatinny Arsenal Garrison commander anyway, he said, while the
Speaker 1: source and cause of these aircraft operating in our area
Speaker 1: remain unknown, we can confirm that they are not the
Speaker 1: result of any Picatinny arsenal related activity. So that's at
Speaker 1: a military base, right, And they're saying that.
Speaker 2: Ain't us right.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just weird timing how all this
Speaker 1: is happening right now. I told you it's only gonna
Speaker 1: get weirder until Trump actually takes a foot into that
Speaker 1: Oval office.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I just I didn't really expect drone
Speaker 2: sightings in New Jersey to be the thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's one of the things. At least
Speaker 1: that's fair.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, Bro, this is the first time here,
Speaker 2: and nobody, to be honest with you, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just want to throw it out there. I thought
Speaker 1: it was interesting how they had kind of like a like,
Speaker 1: you know, they made a big deal about it, putting
Speaker 1: out the emergency unit and shit.
Speaker 2: Bro, trying to was like calling martial law for the state.
Speaker 2: What is this or state of emergency? That's it?
Speaker 1: A limited state of emergency. So it's probably more so,
Speaker 1: like you know, they're they're probably saying that nobody's able
Speaker 1: or nobody's allowed to fly any kind of drones or
Speaker 1: any kind of private planes or anything in this airspace
Speaker 1: temporarily until they figure it out what it is. Because
Speaker 1: I think as long as they have that restriction, then
Speaker 1: it can be seen as like a defensive thing, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be potentially, so, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how it progresses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. But anyway, Yeah, let's let's look into
Speaker 1: what you were looking into.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, okay, Well it's up to you. Because the
Speaker 2: video I just I thought it was a clip. It's
Speaker 2: more like ten minutes. But it does a very good
Speaker 2: job of breaking down the footage from outside the hotel,
Speaker 2: the chain of events with the shooter, and the certain
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say myths, let's call them theories that
Speaker 2: are currently being proposed from different groups, and it's a
Speaker 2: good breakdown of which ones may hold water and which
Speaker 2: ones don't.
Speaker 3: I don't mind playing the whole ten minutes, but that's
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 2: Up to you.
Speaker 1: Is that a mainstream media thing? Is it like a
Speaker 1: no news thing?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no. This is a weapons expert who
Speaker 2: does content creation. His name's grand Thumb on YouTube. He
Speaker 2: just today released a thing because everybody was talking about it.
Speaker 2: It might be a veterinary weapon, right, and that's why
Speaker 2: I was suppressed, And that's why I was a single
Speaker 2: shot because the way it's slid and this and this.
Speaker 2: The cops released a statement saying that if it was
Speaker 2: a single shot weapon, they believed that it was this type.
Speaker 2: And he talks by it. I had never actually even
Speaker 2: heard of a weapon like this before. But it is
Speaker 2: a single shot and it's also a slide action. It's
Speaker 2: fucking ridiculous. But it's a thing, So I mean it's
Speaker 2: a we.
Speaker 3: Could watch it. I wouldn't mind watching it.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I mean it is. It is pretty sad because
Speaker 1: the gentleman who was shot man, he just kept such
Speaker 1: a low profile and family man, just low profile, just
Speaker 1: a low profile, and now everybody's talking about him. It's
Speaker 1: like the opposite of what he really wanted. If that's
Speaker 1: really the case.
Speaker 2: Never mind the fact that he was about to go
Speaker 2: and testify against Pelosi, which I looked into that more. Yo,
Speaker 2: that is one hundred percent factual information. Never mind the
Speaker 2: fact that he himself was indicted for one hundred million
Speaker 2: that just came up missing. But whatever, whatever, So all right,
Speaker 2: this is a grand thumb again. I love giving the
Speaker 2: dude a shout out. He's a veteran content creator. He
Speaker 2: did special forces things in the Air Force, if not mistake,
Speaker 2: and so he has actually seen and regarded as a
Speaker 2: weapons expert, not just because this time with the military,
Speaker 2: but even within the gun tube and weapon sphere.
Speaker 3: He's seen as a source.
Speaker 2: Right, So this is his little breakdown of the debunking
Speaker 2: of the United Healthcare assassin myth.
Speaker 11: Let's go, So, there is a lot of conjecture going
Speaker 11: around over precisely what happened, over what weapon you use.
Speaker 11: We know that the NYPD is saying it was a
Speaker 11: B and T Station six, which is a nine to
Speaker 11: milometer well rowed copy, which is a single shot suppressor
Speaker 11: that uses wipes, and we'll talk more about that later.
Speaker 12: But there's a lot that we're.
Speaker 11: Seeing from the video that might disprove a lot of
Speaker 11: what's being said online or even from what the NYPD
Speaker 11: is saying. So we're gonna be going over four different
Speaker 11: theories over what we believe is probably most likely. We're
Speaker 11: gonna be picking our favorite ones that we think are
Speaker 11: most likely, and we're gonna be showing, based off of
Speaker 11: our firearm knowledge, which is at this point fairly extensive,
Speaker 11: what is most likely, and try to show you guys
Speaker 11: the truth here.
Speaker 12: A lot of non truths, wouldn't you say, Jeremy.
Speaker 1: I'd say so.
Speaker 11: A lot of guesswork at this point, a lot of guesswork.
Speaker 11: We do a lot of shooting a suppressor, so it's
Speaker 11: good let's talk about it. So right here we have
Speaker 11: kind of three main examples of pistols and suppressors that.
Speaker 12: You would see. But before we get into it, let's
Speaker 12: take a look at the shooting itself.
Speaker 7: I'm saving up.
Speaker 2: That ad was going to come up. I felt it
Speaker 2: in my bones that it was just about to happen.
Speaker 11: But whatever, No, the United Healthcare CEO was walking by.
Speaker 11: Are you know if there's anything that America loves, it's
Speaker 11: an outlaw, Isn't that right? It's for this reason that
Speaker 11: we're seeing a lot of praise for this man. We're
Speaker 11: not con donating anything here in Grantham, but we are
Speaker 11: saying that America has a love affair with people who
Speaker 11: are Robinhood like in many ways, stealing from the rich
Speaker 11: and giving to the poor. Not saying that's what happened,
Speaker 11: but that's life. So, first thing it happened, CEO walks bire,
Speaker 11: a man walks out, He brings a wapping off.
Speaker 12: He fires.
Speaker 11: The weapon does not cycle, which is what leads many
Speaker 11: people to believe that it is a single shot weapon.
Speaker 11: Despite that, we do see a lot of gas ejecting
Speaker 11: from the gas port at that point. He cycles a
Speaker 11: up and he kind of writes it for it a
Speaker 11: little bit. This man seems to have i would say
Speaker 11: killed before, but probably not as well practiced on a firearm.
Speaker 11: He cycles it, he brings it up, He has a
Speaker 11: misfire some type. He then fully cycles it, fires again.
Speaker 11: He then steps up while cycling the weapon, and if
Speaker 11: you notice, he then taps the back, which could be
Speaker 11: both weapons. We'll talk about that. And then he seems
Speaker 11: a deliverate killing blow at which point he leaves. So
Speaker 11: there's a lot that goes on in that assassination. And
Speaker 11: let's talk about how these different theories could fit into that. Now,
Speaker 11: the first one we're going to talk about it is
Speaker 11: going to be theory one with the official theories, which
Speaker 11: is that a B and T Station six nine millimeter
Speaker 11: was used.
Speaker 2: Now, now I had never heard of this weapon before
Speaker 2: in my life, so like, I understand why the cops
Speaker 2: would assume this, but again, kind of a weird weapon
Speaker 2: to just naturally assume clearly this is the thing. But
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 11: The B and T Station six is a fairly I
Speaker 11: think unique weapon. I don't think many people are going
Speaker 11: to be buying this weapon, and for there as several
Speaker 11: reasons for this. It is a copy of the well Rod,
Speaker 11: which is a World War two design.
Speaker 12: It is very quiet.
Speaker 11: However, it is a it'd be a very curious weapon
Speaker 11: to use as a professional hit weapon or do you
Speaker 11: just use as as a hit weapon. One it falls
Speaker 11: under the NFA, which means if you bought it, it's
Speaker 11: going to be easily trackable, which means it's likely not
Speaker 11: going to be used.
Speaker 12: And it's very unique.
Speaker 11: So this single shot, so if I want to load
Speaker 11: it once I have the magazine in. This is probably
Speaker 11: why many people believe that this is what he used.
Speaker 11: You have to twist the back, pull it back, push
Speaker 11: it forward, and then lock into place.
Speaker 12: Now here's what's very interesting about the weapon.
Speaker 11: Rather than using traditional baffles, which are essentially going to
Speaker 11: catch the gases are going through, but those are straight holes.
Speaker 12: The B and T Station six uses wipes.
Speaker 11: These are essentially rubber caps that the bullet passes through,
Speaker 11: and those wipes actually slow down the round and take
Speaker 11: it from super sonic to subsonic, which.
Speaker 12: Makes it very quiet. That you can hear right here.
Speaker 12: That is a ridiculously quiet gun.
Speaker 11: After you fired it, you then need to rotate, pull
Speaker 11: it out, and then you can load it again. So
Speaker 11: very quiet. But it seems unlikely to be used for
Speaker 11: several reasons one NFA two. If you notice in the
Speaker 11: videos when he's actually cycling the weapon, he does not
Speaker 11: appear to be twisting and pulling and then recycling it.
Speaker 11: He appears to just be cycling the slide itself. So
Speaker 11: I think it's somewhat unlikely it is going to be
Speaker 11: using this. Now, if we take a look at the
Speaker 11: front right here, these wipes, as you can see right there,
Speaker 11: it's a very unique design. It costs a lot because
Speaker 11: wipes only last.
Speaker 12: A certain number of rounds.
Speaker 11: After that they're done, and they don't really last that
Speaker 11: many rounds, So this is very unlikely that he used
Speaker 11: the B and T Station six. With that being said,
Speaker 11: we will try to recreate the scene to show you
Speaker 11: what it would have looked like how to use the
Speaker 11: B and T Station six. So it doesn't make sense
Speaker 11: to me because on that one shot, if you remember,
Speaker 11: he loads and then he taps the back, this is
Speaker 11: something that you typically do to a semi automatic to
Speaker 11: seat the slide all the way forward. With this design,
Speaker 11: how it locks into place, it has to be fully
Speaker 11: rotated to lock forward. That wouldn't be something that you'd
Speaker 11: do to it. So I find it unlikely, but it's
Speaker 11: a possibility. So I would say theory number one that
Speaker 11: he uses B and T Station six I see probably
Speaker 11: the least likely of any theory that we have so far.
Speaker 11: And being this NYPD that suggested this, I think that
Speaker 11: makes sense.
Speaker 2: Thees okay thoughts on that one real quick.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems no matter what, it seems like
Speaker 1: the gun that he ultimately did use is kind of
Speaker 1: out of the ordinary, right, Like it's not like a
Speaker 1: typical gun that you would you would just have laying
Speaker 1: around your house. Or maybe maybe he took it from
Speaker 1: somewhere in hopes that it would be traced back to
Speaker 1: a veterinarian hospital. If that's what the case was.
Speaker 2: Well, not necessarily, all right, So remember how I told you,
Speaker 2: I think yesterday and we were talking about it the
Speaker 2: way it went, I was like, yeah, because he's using
Speaker 2: a shit suppressor and it's not letting the gas cycle
Speaker 2: the correct way unless it was like a direct blowback
Speaker 2: or something like that, and that is why it is
Speaker 2: doing this. It's like you're taking what I thought was
Speaker 2: probably a subsonic round anyway, and you're putting it through
Speaker 2: a dog shit suppressor, meaning that the weapon won't be
Speaker 2: able to cycle properly and you would have to do
Speaker 2: that for each round. And I said that then, So
Speaker 2: then watching the video again and having a weapons X
Speaker 2: kind of break down the working theories. At this time,
Speaker 2: I fucking loved it. But then NYPD, the professionals, the
Speaker 2: cops on the case are saying that this was the
Speaker 2: weapon that was used, this crazy specific gun that like
Speaker 2: most gun nerds have never even fucking heard of, that's
Speaker 2: got this wild suppression system that I'll be honest, I
Speaker 2: had never heard of a suppressor that used wipes before.
Speaker 2: That's that's a new one for me. So it's like
Speaker 2: super super rare on top of super rare. And by
Speaker 2: the way, if it was this gun, he would be
Speaker 2: registered on top of being registered, on top of being registered.
Speaker 2: So like it just then, NYPD's story doesn't even make
Speaker 2: sense at this time.
Speaker 1: You know, weren't they suggesting that it could have been
Speaker 1: a three D printed gun at his house?
Speaker 3: They said a ghost gun. They didn't say three D printed.
Speaker 2: All they said was that it was a ghost gun
Speaker 2: and they believed it was something homemade. Now I even
Speaker 2: said it would make since if it was a homemade suppressor,
Speaker 2: and maybe that's what they were saying with this, and
Speaker 2: if it was a homemade supressor, that would explain why
Speaker 2: the gas couldn't go through the right way. But we're
Speaker 2: gonna get to that one in a second. Samuel, your
Speaker 2: hand has raised your thoughts.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, so the rail rod is actually an assassin
Speaker 4: into the OSS. I was famous for deploying them. They
Speaker 4: were meant to get two or three shots because the
Speaker 4: single shot you have to put in locket. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's doable, but I.
Speaker 1: Don't see somebody not.
Speaker 4: Fort to be completely effectively utilized perfectly. Like he got
Speaker 4: the job done, but he would have had to get
Speaker 4: because it's more of like what you would you would
Speaker 4: walk up give give the kiss of death. You'd kiss
Speaker 4: him on the ticket like the Italians and shooting back
Speaker 4: the dome.
Speaker 2: I could see. I'm with you. This is more like
Speaker 2: if you were to use it for the same principle
Speaker 2: as like a thirty eight special, Like all right, this snubnose,
Speaker 2: for instance, I wouldn't shoot this at fifteen yards at somebody.
Speaker 3: I would use this six inches for their head.
Speaker 2: This type of gun that you're talking about, the one
Speaker 2: he's got in his hand at that moment, was I
Speaker 2: see it. It's a one shot, one kill type weapon.
Speaker 2: If you have to go for a second round, this
Speaker 2: is not the weapon you're using. And if your goal
Speaker 2: is to drop three rounds on the ground with words
Speaker 2: written on them, this is not the gun you're using
Speaker 2: for this purpose.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you would want to use like a nine mil
Speaker 4: or person, well, that.
Speaker 2: Is a nine mil. Well that was that gun that
Speaker 2: he was dabout was nine mili. But it's well even
Speaker 2: still for the action of it. If it was just
Speaker 2: you're gonna walk up, here's his head, pop pop run, Okay,
Speaker 2: that would be the gun of choice. If you're doing
Speaker 2: it to leave a statement, and you like needed those
Speaker 2: three rounds to be left. You're not using that, you know.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Is it possible that he used this specific gun
Speaker 1: because remember there were engravings on the shells, right, Is
Speaker 1: it possible that he wanted a shell that was like
Speaker 1: easier do engrave on it, And that's why he chose
Speaker 1: was this gun in the first place.
Speaker 2: They were written in sharpie. It wasn't like etched in
Speaker 2: with like an engraving tool. He wrote him in sharpie
Speaker 2: on the on the round, so like, no, it was
Speaker 2: a regular And that's my point. Even watching the video,
Speaker 2: you see him slide it back. There's no twist in
Speaker 2: rotation actions. So the NYPD is already giving a false narrative,
Speaker 2: and anybody looking at it that knows anything about weapons,
Speaker 2: which the NYPD should have a weapons expert or whatever
Speaker 2: would know that.
Speaker 1: But well, a lot of them, a lot of them
Speaker 1: either quit or got fired because they didn't want to
Speaker 1: take the jabs. So we're probably dealing with a whole
Speaker 1: like special unit.
Speaker 2: But think about it, dude, we're talking to Fortune five
Speaker 2: hundred CEO just got assassinated. Somebody knew something. This wasn't
Speaker 2: a random act of something.
Speaker 3: This is a planned hit.
Speaker 2: Is it possible that the NYPD was paid off and
Speaker 2: are giving a false narrative on purpose?
Speaker 1: Look, I mean not to hate on any kind of
Speaker 1: you know, military or police force or anything like, but
Speaker 1: there were a lot of policemen that were there on
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. Right, there was a lot of firemen,
Speaker 1: a lot of policemen, and a lot of them got silenced.
Speaker 1: They weren't allowed to talk about exactly what they've seen either.
Speaker 1: So I'm not comparing this to that. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the first time that a law enforcement
Speaker 1: official possibly would have looked the other way, so that,
Speaker 1: you know, the mainstream media's narrative could make way to
Speaker 1: be the main thing.
Speaker 2: Right, he was about to testify against the former Speaker
Speaker 2: of the House for the cops to get told to
Speaker 2: stand down, and here's the story. We're gonna stick to it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound crazy to me, dude, that's just me.
Speaker 2: We know that the Secretary of State has already told
Speaker 2: military members to stand down when ben Ghazi was happening,
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like telling some cops to
Speaker 2: stand down for a rich fuck that doesn't sound that
Speaker 2: crazy to me. That sounds like a Tuesday for the CIA.
Speaker 1: I'm that's just me though, Stephanie.
Speaker 13: Hello, I just wanted to add by two cents. I
Speaker 13: thought you guys were gonna touch on this with script Keeper, which,
Speaker 13: by the way, he is one of my all time favorites.
Speaker 13: I would love like weekly or monthly with him. He's uh,
Speaker 13: he's the best.
Speaker 14: But so with the with the words that you guys
Speaker 14: kept saying, with the low profile, I think that there's
Speaker 14: somewhat of like a obviously there's this whole story is
Speaker 14: like multi multifaceted, but I do think that those words
Speaker 14: the reason why they have those words. I haven't done
Speaker 14: the jamatri or anything on it, but one thing I
Speaker 14: think about is that there is like a community that
Speaker 14: is very anti you know, Facebook, anti social media, tries
Speaker 14: to keep a quote unquote low profile, and yet this guy,
Speaker 14: although he kept a quote unquote low profile, and he
Speaker 14: still was found, he still was tracked, he still was killed.
Speaker 14: And so there's some sort of like subconscious embedding that
Speaker 14: even if you try to keep a low profile, no
Speaker 14: matter who you are, you can get got. But yeah,
Speaker 14: I think that that.
Speaker 13: Is somewhat of the programming of the words of the
Speaker 13: low profile, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: No, I agree, Yeah, well there's Look, they were slowly
Speaker 1: over time just trying to decipher exactly what they mean
Speaker 1: whenever they use these key words. I mean, all these
Speaker 1: are our mere suggestions in like a hypnotic sense. So
Speaker 1: like to say, like somebody was there to keep a
Speaker 1: low profile. I mean, wouldn't you think that they all
Speaker 1: kind of keep a low profile. If you're some kind
Speaker 1: of insurance guy, it's not like necessarily in your best
Speaker 1: interest to be saying I'm an insurance adjuster and I
Speaker 1: also happen to be working on behalf of Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 1: And but don't let me shout that from the mountaintop.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep that to myself. Let me keep
Speaker 1: a low profile, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Below profile as opposed to what, like what do you
Speaker 2: expect billionaires to do, like be hanging with rap artists
Speaker 2: with girls twerking around like, no, he's doing him he's
Speaker 2: doing billionaire shit, Like that's actually probably some low profile shit,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, he's probably been seen at an
Speaker 2: art exhibit or two, you know, I don't know, like
Speaker 2: billionaires don't.
Speaker 3: Do Tony Stark.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's weird how they all used that same,
Speaker 1: that same notion that it was that he kept a
Speaker 1: low profile. I get what you're saying. I just I
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell it means just yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, I agree, I'm saying that. Like as far
Speaker 2: as towards the mainstream media that kept saying it, like
Speaker 2: bro a low profile or what like, he was a
Speaker 2: fucking forty eight year old. He had no social media, Like,
Speaker 2: cuz a forty eight year old, what do you I mean?
Speaker 2: He was doing his thing. He's got kids, he's running
Speaker 2: a business. He maybe he's not on the socials. He
Speaker 2: didn't do much because he's busy, he's going, he's doing business. Shit.
Speaker 2: I don't know. He didn't strike me as weird, but
Speaker 2: they they kept running it. They all mentioned that he
Speaker 2: kept a low profile. That was very strange.
Speaker 1: It kind of sounds like a situation what was the
Speaker 1: name of that show with Jason Bateman and he was
Speaker 1: like an insurance adjuster or some shit or a tax guy,
Speaker 1: oh Zark, Oh yeah, maybe if we kind of got
Speaker 1: one of those situations on our hands, who knows, who knows?
Speaker 2: Anyway, all right, So I wanted to play a little
Speaker 2: bit more because he broke down a couple other things
Speaker 2: I thought were really cool.
Speaker 11: Number two, three, and four revolve around a functioning or
Speaker 11: semifunctioning semi automatic weapon. In this case, we have a glock,
Speaker 11: one of the most ubiquitous semi automatic handguns out there.
Speaker 11: And when it comes to suppressors, any of your normal
Speaker 11: suppressors are going to run pretty well. This one is
Speaker 11: some CGS and it's going to run on pretty much
Speaker 11: any pistol put you put it on. Now, suppressors on
Speaker 11: pistols are a little bit temperamental, and there's a reason
Speaker 11: for that. With a suppressor on any type of tilt
Speaker 11: lock gun or any type of browning action, you have
Speaker 11: to unlock the barrel, so because you have so much
Speaker 11: weight on the barrel. These have what's called a booster
Speaker 11: or a Nielsen device on the suppressor. It's essentially a
Speaker 11: spring that's compressed and runs in the opposite direction. So
Speaker 11: you can see it right here. See I can pull
Speaker 11: that out. You have a big old spring right there.
Speaker 11: So when I'm firing this weapon, that's going to cycle.
Speaker 11: But if you don't have a Nielsen device, that pistol
Speaker 11: is not going to cycle, and you'll need to manually
Speaker 11: cycle the weapon each shot, which brings us to some
Speaker 11: of our first points that we're going to be making.
Speaker 11: So right here, we've taken apart one of our suppressors
Speaker 11: and you can see the Nielsen device right here. It's
Speaker 11: essentially just a piston that's going to counteroperate and make
Speaker 11: sure that the barrel can run. Without this Nielsen device,
Speaker 11: this will not function. So the second theory is going
Speaker 11: to be that he used some type of home built
Speaker 11: suppressor that did not have a Nielsen device.
Speaker 12: That way, he had to cycle the weapon manually between shots.
Speaker 12: Let's take a look at what that would have looked like.
Speaker 11: Now, all of our suppressors, even without Nielsen devices, are
Speaker 11: running fine. They shouldn't, but they're just lightweight and they're
Speaker 11: made well. This is not typical what you see, so
Speaker 11: we'll have to kind of manually do this will be
Speaker 11: shucking out some live rounds. Let's see if that would
Speaker 11: look like. So, as you can see there, he would
Speaker 11: have had to manually cycle between rounds and the rounds
Speaker 11: wouldn't have ebjected. I think this makes the most sense
Speaker 11: in terms of what is capable any type of suppressor
Speaker 11: that you're going to be buying requires it that to
Speaker 11: go through NFA with National Firearms Act, which means it
Speaker 11: has to be center of the ATF. There's a lot
Speaker 11: of paperwork when it comes to the suppressor. I think
Speaker 11: it's unlikely he would have used a registered suppressor. Handbuilding
Speaker 11: your own suppressor. You can't stop people from having power tools.
Speaker 11: Seems a lot more likely. He likely wouldn't have had
Speaker 11: a booster, which means he would have had to have
Speaker 11: manually cycled it when he fired the weapon. The thing
Speaker 11: that I find interesting is that looks like he did
Speaker 11: kind of expect it to malfunction in some way or
Speaker 11: to not cycle, because he did go up to cycle.
Speaker 11: But if you notice when he fired and it didn't cycle,
Speaker 11: he kind of rode the slide forward. What that means
Speaker 11: is that when he was loading it, he didn't let
Speaker 11: it just go back on its own power. When you
Speaker 11: want to load around in you're also to just pull
Speaker 11: it all the way to the rear release it. He
Speaker 11: kind of rides it, which the thing causes that malfunction.
Speaker 12: So then he.
Speaker 11: Cycles again and he gets it to run, and after
Speaker 11: he cycles that one, you notice he taps the back
Speaker 11: of the slide. This is likely because the weapon wasn't
Speaker 11: going fully into battery. If you notice, kind of be
Speaker 11: at that back position. So you get a seat fully forward,
Speaker 11: you can tap the back to make sure it's fully
Speaker 11: in that it will fire. So I say, TMU suppressor
Speaker 11: pretty high on the list of theories.
Speaker 12: That actually makes sense. Jeremy, what do you think?
Speaker 2: I think that's the most probable. The odds that he
Speaker 2: was registered with an NFA item and murdered somebody with
Speaker 2: it is basically non existent.
Speaker 11: The amount of crimes committed to the NFA items are
Speaker 11: so low, and honestly, even if they were more than
Speaker 11: zero or at this point one, to be honest, don't
Speaker 11: fringe upon it.
Speaker 15: Right.
Speaker 11: The next thing that I think makes a lot of
Speaker 11: sense would be subsonic rounds. So your typical nine to
Speaker 11: milometer is going above the speed of sound, and the
Speaker 11: speed of sound being eleven hundred feet per second. Do
Speaker 11: you say a subsonic round that's going below eleven hundred
Speaker 11: feet per second, which varies depending on your heighten atmospherics
Speaker 11: and stuff. I think makes sense. Now here's the thing
Speaker 11: I doubt this man would have gone and bought special
Speaker 11: that's easily trackable, unless he maybe is not that good
Speaker 11: of an assassin. But what's actually quite easy to do
Speaker 11: is if you remove the slug he bought some of
Speaker 11: the grainage.
Speaker 12: If you're able to weigh that, it's fairly.
Speaker 11: Easy to reduce the amount of power coming out of
Speaker 11: the round, which could also not cycle the weapon if
Speaker 11: you didn't have enough powder with the subsonic ammus that
Speaker 11: he is running to show you the difference. When you're firing,
Speaker 11: a surpressor does a really good job of keeping sound down,
Speaker 11: but when a ground breaks a sound barrier, it breaks
Speaker 11: a sound barrier, and that is very loud. So we
Speaker 11: have a supersonic round that will be followed by a
Speaker 11: subsonic ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this part's actually really cool, the supersonic versus the
Speaker 2: subsonic back to back. It's night and day, brow Brown.
Speaker 11: That was our super here's our sub You could see
Speaker 11: it's a lot quieter. This does make some sense to
Speaker 11: me that perhaps he had subsonic rounds. Let's go ahead
Speaker 11: and take a look at what that.
Speaker 2: We really have to watch the rest of it. He
Speaker 2: breaks down and does the shooting portion again. But again
Speaker 2: I could see that being a very likely chain of
Speaker 2: events as to what happened, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We have a guy who is using a homemade suppressor
Speaker 2: or a dog shit suppressor with subsonic dog shit ammo,
Speaker 2: which he probably didn't have to pour any grains out
Speaker 2: of himself. He probably just bought some sub sonic nine
Speaker 2: mil which you can buy, and that made the gun malfunction.
Speaker 2: And the fact that he shot and like didn't go
Speaker 2: for a second one and like have a hole.
Speaker 3: Oh what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Maybe he knew that that was gonna happen because he
Speaker 2: was quick reaction on that shit. Maybe he already knew
Speaker 2: that it was gonna run that way. Maybe that was
Speaker 2: like a part of the test fire and he didn't
Speaker 2: have time to find another weapon. Who fucking knows, But
Speaker 2: we do know that the story that the NYPD is
Speaker 2: giving us on it is incorrect. Now, all of a
Speaker 2: sudden they found the guy with his manifesto on him,
Speaker 2: which never fucking happens h in his days later, by
Speaker 2: the way, right, you know, at a McDonald's and all this,
Speaker 2: And now we find out he was the valedictorian of
Speaker 2: his ow Boys prep school just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: He was just such a good kid, staple of the community,
Speaker 2: and bup, buh bup, out of nowhere, he just started
Speaker 2: posting some political rhetoric on some social media and.
Speaker 3: Then decided to full on assassinated.
Speaker 2: Dude, Bro, what.
Speaker 15: This is?
Speaker 1: This isn't out of the ordinary kind of story in
Speaker 1: my opinion, because typically whenever you hear people dying of gunshots,
Speaker 1: they trounce on the opportunity to try and say, this
Speaker 1: is why we don't need guns, this is why I
Speaker 1: don't feel safe, and this is why you should homeschool
Speaker 1: you kids and all that fun jazz, because normally they're
Speaker 1: going after the ars. And this is a pistol.
Speaker 2: So and it's in a city where you can't have
Speaker 2: guns or suppressors or ammunition.
Speaker 1: How did he get it in there?
Speaker 3: Jacobose laws?
Speaker 2: I don't fucking know, Jonathan.
Speaker 3: It's a gun free city. How did this assassination happen?
Speaker 1: I thought laws prevented even guns from crossing over Styton
Speaker 1: County lines.
Speaker 3: Even nothing makes sense anymore.
Speaker 2: It's insane.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: But again, the dude had all of the forethought to
Speaker 2: know exactly where this guy was gonna be at the time.
Speaker 2: He was gonna be there got up and left the
Speaker 2: hostel early enough to go to Starbucks and get him
Speaker 2: a cup of coffee. Okay, got a little Starby's before
Speaker 2: his hit successfully and efficiently well aside from the weapon
Speaker 2: malfunction pulled off. His assassination, made it to a bus,
Speaker 2: escaped the area, and somehow didn't ditch the weapon or
Speaker 2: the manifesto or the fake ID, and just was found.
Speaker 1: Sure, it sounds like a hit job. Is really what
Speaker 1: it sounds like?
Speaker 2: Sounds like a setup and or little uh Lee Harvey
Speaker 2: Oswald a little oh, this is the fall guy.
Speaker 1: I think Pelosi Pelosi been hanging out with Hillary a
Speaker 1: little too long, I think is what's going on.
Speaker 3: Pelosi's been in DC for far too long, dude, this
Speaker 3: is what happens. And again, bro sixty five percent return
Speaker 3: on investment for her last year, absurd money that regular
Speaker 3: human beings can't even fathom. That she is buying and
Speaker 3: selling and trading with illegal insider trading deals like.
Speaker 2: That's and again, okay, the rich do it. Martha Stewart
Speaker 2: got caught sheet at her time. She moves on. She
Speaker 2: had a whole comeback. She's friends with Snoop now like
Speaker 2: it's like Pelosi could just do her time and be fine,
Speaker 2: Like it's gonna be okay, it's gonna be a hotel stay.
Speaker 1: For I don't know, man, those heavies in a prison, yo.
Speaker 3: She do got them heavies, and but they're old lady heavies.
Speaker 2: And I don't think that heavi are heavy a federal
Speaker 2: but a federally max prison. Because she's going to like
Speaker 2: Bernie Madoff prison, She's not going to like a rough prison.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything's going to happen to her at all,
Speaker 1: just like nothing happened to Hillary, just like nothing happens
Speaker 1: to any of these kind of politicians. Because you know why,
Speaker 1: because that guy was worching, that was working for that
Speaker 1: insurance company or insurance advisor or whatever he was, that
Speaker 1: guy probably wasn't stealing money from the people that matter.
Speaker 1: And that's the difference. If you steal it from regular
Speaker 1: people like me and you and all the good cult
Speaker 1: members around the world, nobody bats an eye. But you
Speaker 1: start to you start to take a little bit of
Speaker 1: cheese out of the big rats behind like in the
Speaker 1: back pocket, bro, you start to nibble at that cheese,
Speaker 1: that's where they come after you. And that's what makes me,
Speaker 1: that's what makes me believe that this was some kind
Speaker 1: of setup, that this was a sort of laundering scheme,
Speaker 1: even of a guy that was working on behalf of
Speaker 1: some somebody higher up.
Speaker 2: I don't even believe that the hundred million that he
Speaker 2: was being indicted for is even the point. I think
Speaker 2: that your boy probably he's the CEO of a insurance company,
Speaker 2: and we know insurance companies is evil. That's a confirmed fact.
Speaker 2: So he was, I'm sure embezzling billions. I'm sure of this.
Speaker 1: And what was it two weeks after the uh what
Speaker 1: they just they just failed their seventh audit the Pentagon, right.
Speaker 2: Oh, the Pentagon. Excuse me, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it could all be interlinking, and if
Speaker 1: you look down a certain rabbit hole, you might find
Speaker 1: certain things that you weren't expecting. And that's probably what
Speaker 1: was going on with that dude.
Speaker 2: Dude whenever I didn't know Pelosi was involved with him.
Speaker 2: That was the thing. At first, knee jerk, Okay, him
Speaker 2: getting assassinated wasn't a random act of violence, that was
Speaker 2: a planned hit, got it? Why though, I started looking,
Speaker 2: first thing I found was his one hundred million dollar
Speaker 2: embezzlement trial, and this, this and this, and it's him
Speaker 2: and a couple of friends in some sort of a
Speaker 2: Ponzi scheme thing. It's really dirty, super white collar, shitty
Speaker 2: businessman things that you hear about on the news. Okay.
Speaker 3: So to say that he got killed so that.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't turn on his people in this one case
Speaker 2: or something like that, Okay, it makes sense. I didn't
Speaker 2: realize that Pelosi was about to he was about to
Speaker 2: go and testify against her when I I found that out.
Speaker 2: The more I looked into that whole embezzlement case that
Speaker 2: he's being brought up for, it seems like that was
Speaker 2: just drummed up bullshit to throw the blame off of
Speaker 2: her to where no one's even questioning Pelosi. While everybody's
Speaker 2: looking at this indictment that he was facing. They don't
Speaker 2: even realize that he was about to go and testify
Speaker 2: in court.
Speaker 1: Dude, bro, this is wild. So I went over to
Speaker 1: Scriptkeeper's Instagram and he was doing a little bit more
Speaker 1: research on Nancy Pelosi. Do you know that she has
Speaker 1: made She is now worth two hundred and seventy two
Speaker 1: million dollars. There you go as a result of like
Speaker 1: her coming together with her husband and feeding him a
Speaker 1: bunch of things, which that iss just.
Speaker 2: Her, dude, the husband's got his own investment portfolio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, as scripkeeper was saying, uh, she has made
Speaker 1: one point six million dollars in the stock market so
Speaker 1: far today, as per our estimates, it's probably not got
Speaker 1: that far off.
Speaker 2: To be real with you, I'm the fucking truth is
Speaker 2: it's not, dude. I believe that's probably a real number.
Speaker 1: Quaisian Quaisian persuasion. What do you got, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 4: So when we're talking about politicians and these business executives,
Speaker 4: they they come from like a lot of times, they
Speaker 4: come from like blue blood. So they their philosophy is
Speaker 4: for as common folk to mine our manners and mine
Speaker 4: our betters, which is fucked up. But that's okay. They
Speaker 4: can have their time now. But come is a bitch
Speaker 4: and it's gonna bite him in their ass.
Speaker 2: I agree, I hope. So anyway, I've seen the movie
Speaker 2: play out too many times where the bad guy ends
Speaker 2: up winning. I would like for the good guy to
Speaker 2: win for a change. But you know, we got to
Speaker 2: keep that help alive.
Speaker 13: Hey, did you say it was two hundred and seventy
Speaker 13: two million her network.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what that's what script reported anyway, Is that.
Speaker 14: Per titty or with them both?
Speaker 2: Steph solid Burn? That was great.
Speaker 1: Well, two hundred and seventy two million divided by two
Speaker 1: titties would leave you with, uh, what is that? One
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six million dollars per titty? At that point?
Speaker 2: Those are some extra heavy heavies.
Speaker 1: Dog, that's as heavy as they get.
Speaker 2: And I, you know, curiosity is a bitch. I am
Speaker 2: curious if those are fake or real. I don't know,
Speaker 2: nor do I like care. It's not something that keeps
Speaker 2: me up at night, but like it's just not something
Speaker 2: you see. You know, I don't think anybody warhol are useless,
Speaker 2: but like they're there, and like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if anybody expected them to
Speaker 1: keep you up at night. So that was kind of
Speaker 1: weird to throw that in there. Uh, Samuel, don't.
Speaker 2: But it's like, now that we're on the topic, it's like, huh,
Speaker 2: I wonder if those are store bought or god given
Speaker 2: who knows, who knows.
Speaker 1: Could be a little mix of both, you never know,
Speaker 1: could be.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Well, I got Coe's on.
Speaker 3: Who talking about Nancy Pelosi?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, nope, never mind. I would track to well
Speaker 4: pop in my mind, Nope, never mine. Like Dolly Parton,
Speaker 4: I'll just say, well, anything bigger than a mouthfuls of waste, but.
Speaker 2: No, Dolly, very very store bought. But Dolly is Dolly
Speaker 2: and she is wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yes, anything bigger than a mouthful. You can't really fit
Speaker 1: a whole lot in your mouth, though, So that's pretty
Speaker 1: low bar to be talking about there, Sam, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, Lexflie, I disagree. I'm a bit of a I'm
Speaker 2: as far as that goes the debate between uh, you know,
Speaker 2: guys prefer one versus the other. As far as top
Speaker 2: heavy or bottom heavy, I'm definitely more of a top
Speaker 2: heavy guy myself. That's just me.
Speaker 1: I thank we all got our favorite kind of sensation.
Speaker 1: But anyway, let's get back to the chat. There was
Speaker 1: a Matthew Lane. Matthew is still here? Cool? He said, Uh,
Speaker 1: just found you Fellows a few weeks ago. Loving your work, gents,
Speaker 1: I got some new information on old events. When you're curious, Matthew,
Speaker 1: if you're around at this moment, we would love to
Speaker 1: hear a little bit of the information that you were
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 2: Or just you know, I mean, he is here, but
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have the ability to mic
Speaker 2: in or whatever. But if you can, Matthew, please do.
Speaker 1: We probably caught him when he was on the shit
Speaker 1: or something. He's like, fuck, now is my time? And
Speaker 1: I blew it, budd he said money, Yeah, yeah, what
Speaker 1: about not much?
Speaker 7: Fellas.
Speaker 15: Actually I hit you up on Instagram a few days ago.
Speaker 15: I'm awakened lying about the Kent State stuff. Okay, I
Speaker 15: was hoping that chime in with that at some appropriate point.
Speaker 15: Doesn't really fit in with you guys are talking about
Speaker 15: right now, though, Hey, were you.
Speaker 2: Hearing about Nitsy Pelosi's tits? We can absolutely take a
Speaker 2: side Tangent.
Speaker 1: Let's go all right.
Speaker 7: So I live in Ohio.
Speaker 15: I grew up in Kent learning about the Kent State
Speaker 15: shootings and everything, you know, the mainstream narrative. Yeah, and
Speaker 15: even as a young kid like I didn't quite understand it,
Speaker 15: but like they shoved it down our throats recently, Like
Speaker 15: it wasn't something I was thinking about ever, you know,
Speaker 15: But I was just randomly on a Facebook Kent, Ohio
Speaker 15: page where this interesting character younger fella was trying to
Speaker 15: find this art installation memorial in the middle of the woods.
Speaker 15: So I clicked on, and I'm like, what is he
Speaker 15: talking about? Memorial in the middle of these woods. I've
Speaker 15: been in these woods a million times. I didn't know
Speaker 15: there was anything like this. So I check out his
Speaker 15: posts and he at the time was looking for help
Speaker 15: finding it because all passed to it have kind of deceased,
Speaker 15: Like it's just out there now, but nobody goes to
Speaker 15: see it. So a couple of days go by, he
Speaker 15: finds it, takes pictures of it, and he posts it.
Speaker 15: And my mind's kind of blown by what I'm looking at.
Speaker 15: So if nobody is familiar with Kent State May four shootings,
Speaker 15: four people were shot, thirteen total, I'll drop this on you.
Speaker 15: It was thirteen seconds of fire, sixty seven shots, thirteen
Speaker 15: people totally hit, six plus seven thirteen the Jamatri And
Speaker 15: it's ridiculous. All four of the people who died were
Speaker 15: of Jewish descent.
Speaker 7: All four.
Speaker 15: Let's see, two of them both attended JFK High School
Speaker 15: in completely different states. What else did I got a
Speaker 15: bunch written down, but I don't even have it in
Speaker 15: front of me right now.
Speaker 2: So that's fucking wild. I have never heard any of
Speaker 2: this about the can stay we're talking about when the
Speaker 2: National Guard they were protesters war that whole thing.
Speaker 15: Yeah, so I'm big into jamatria and numerology and stuff
Speaker 15: like that. The synchronicity and number thing really follows me
Speaker 15: fucking everywhere, and the past year and a half now
Speaker 15: maybe yeah, a little over a year now, the number two,
Speaker 15: twenty two, twelve, twenty two, and twenty four have just
Speaker 15: been following me everywhere.
Speaker 7: So sidebar.
Speaker 15: At twelve twenty four, the National Guards started approaching Blanket
Speaker 15: Hill where they fired their shots down on the students
Speaker 15: below them. So these guys had the high ground too.
Speaker 15: Sixty seven shots in thirteen seconds and they only hit
Speaker 15: thirteen people in like a huge crowd, and all four
Speaker 15: of the people were Jewish.
Speaker 7: So yeah, dude, crazy stuff.
Speaker 3: But you said, how many rounds did they fire?
Speaker 7: Sixty seven six to seven thirteen?
Speaker 3: Do we know, like from what type of weapon? Off top?
Speaker 2: I off the top, I couldn't tell you. If it
Speaker 2: was like a Thompson, Was it like M sixteen? I
Speaker 2: don't know, because I'm curious that like the caliber of
Speaker 2: the round might also play in in some way, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, like it'd be wild
Speaker 2: if they were twenty twos.
Speaker 15: I'm just saying right now, they were definitely some kind
Speaker 15: of rifle, but I can't remember what is an M
Speaker 15: twenty two rifle.
Speaker 7: I'm not familiar with guns, wasn't in the army everything.
Speaker 1: So anybody that is not familiar with this story, it
Speaker 1: says the Kent State shootings were the killing of four
Speaker 1: and wounding of nine unarmed college students by the from
Speaker 1: the Ohio National Guard on the Kent State University campus.
Speaker 1: The shootings took place on May fourth, nineteen seventy, during
Speaker 1: a rally opposing the expanding involvement of the Vietnam War
Speaker 1: into Cambodia by United States military forces, as well as
Speaker 1: protesting the National Guard presence on campus and the draft.
Speaker 1: Twenty eight National Guard soldiers fired about sixty seven rounds
Speaker 1: over thirteen seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others,
Speaker 1: one of whom suffered permanent paralysis. Students Alison Krause, Jeffrey Miller,
Speaker 1: Sondra sure Uh They all died on the scene, while
Speaker 1: William Schroeder was pronounced dead at the hospital. In a
Speaker 1: nearby UH Revenna, shortly after.
Speaker 15: Hey Sidebar, Revenn, Ohio was a hideout spot for al Capone.
Speaker 7: Revenna is an Italian word.
Speaker 2: Oh how about that? I always wondering.
Speaker 15: I love, dude, I love my local history. Like I'm
Speaker 15: from Kent, I live an acron acrons wild all the
Speaker 15: random people who are from there, like the Bob guy
Speaker 15: who started AA, hanging out with all the rubber factory
Speaker 15: owners of all like Goodyear Firestone. Uh, Thomas Edison got
Speaker 15: married in our in our city.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's small, but it's important.
Speaker 15: So going back to some of this with the this
Speaker 15: art installation this kid found in the woods, he took
Speaker 15: pictures of it, posted it.
Speaker 7: And I was just kind of gassed when I saw
Speaker 7: what it was.
Speaker 15: It was three stone pillars and one pretty decently like sized.
Speaker 15: I haven't seen it in person, but it looked about
Speaker 15: six feet maybe a little bit taller. It's a round
Speaker 15: metal disc with this weird rip through it, kind of
Speaker 15: like you would see in TV shows and cartoons and
Speaker 15: movies of a portal opening, and it's big enough.
Speaker 7: For you to walk through it so randomly.
Speaker 15: I see another post about this artist from Hudson, Ohio,
Speaker 15: who was getting it put into the Hudson High School
Speaker 15: Hall of Fame. He was an artist from Kent State.
Speaker 15: He was attending Kent State when the shootings happened. After
Speaker 15: he graduated, he moved to New York City, came back
Speaker 15: to and installed this memorial in the wood Counters Woods
Speaker 15: for the May four shootings.
Speaker 7: The other thing that makes.
Speaker 15: Me raise my eyebrow, other than that thing looks like
Speaker 15: a portal and those are three stone pillars, was It's
Speaker 15: right next to an ancient Indian burial mound and is
Speaker 15: in a small spring lake called Lake Pippin.
Speaker 3: Okay, So what's the significance of Lake Pippin?
Speaker 7: Let me see.
Speaker 15: I looked it up and didn't save the page, and
Speaker 15: it was m ones they used, not M twenty two's.
Speaker 2: Okay, m hmm okay. So they were thirty on six
Speaker 2: is that were being fired, okay? Interesting three o six.
Speaker 7: One person was shot in the mouth, one was shot
Speaker 7: in the neck, one was shot in the back through
Speaker 7: the chest and blew out through the top.
Speaker 15: Of his shoulder, and another girl was shot in the chest.
Speaker 15: Another random thirteen number for you. When I was researching
Speaker 15: the four People who died, Wikipedia has the distance that
Speaker 15: each person.
Speaker 7: Was shot from.
Speaker 15: Yeah, three out of the flour it listed it as
Speaker 15: feet one it listened in yards, and it was one
Speaker 15: hundred and thirty yards, giving me another thirteen for anybody
Speaker 15: in the chat or if you guys know, I know,
Speaker 15: seven and eleven.
Speaker 7: And nine obviously on nine to eleven.
Speaker 15: Was pretty big number used. But I'm pretty sure thirteen
Speaker 15: was one of those numbers too. I can't remember, all right,
Speaker 15: So I was I look at Pippin meaning a Pippin.
Speaker 15: There's quite a few different meetings. None of them are
Speaker 15: overly significant to the event, but you see.
Speaker 2: I mean either way, the Indian burial ground right there
Speaker 2: is significant enough to me. But you know, just curious
Speaker 2: that the lake has some stuff with it too.
Speaker 7: No, but you know water right.
Speaker 15: That lake is actually owned by the city of Akron.
Speaker 15: They use it for their drinking law. I don't know
Speaker 15: if that has any significance.
Speaker 1: Maybe well, I think that there's probably a lot of
Speaker 1: different aspects that we could, you know, really take a
Speaker 1: deeper look. So maybe maybe one of these days we'll
Speaker 1: do a full show on it and be able to
Speaker 1: see if there are any kind of like weird synchronicities,
Speaker 1: weird things that don't seem to match up, because I
Speaker 1: do remember hearing about that, and I'm not necessarily that
Speaker 1: somebody that is, you know, that remembers certain specific dates
Speaker 1: and everything, But I know May fourth was something that
Speaker 1: was attached to that, and it being nineteen seventy and
Speaker 1: protesting the Vietnam War and all that kind of shit.
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude. It could have been some kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know, military stance in a sense of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're going to sit here and protest the war, We're
Speaker 1: going to make an example out of you, kind of situation.
Speaker 3: Which is still crazy, dude. It was a peaceful college
Speaker 3: campus protest the National Guard. It's not like they were
Speaker 3: firing rubber bullets and some of them went a little
Speaker 3: high and they had some accident.
Speaker 2: This was the weapon that was used to in World
Speaker 2: War two, bro, Like this. These were weapons of war
Speaker 2: that were fired into a crowd of unarmed college kids.
Speaker 15: Like right, they burned down the ROTC building the night before,
Speaker 15: supposedly students.
Speaker 7: There's a very good book.
Speaker 15: I heard a podcast years ago on it by the
Speaker 15: author of a book I believe I can't find it now.
Speaker 15: I could have swore it was great Carlwood who interviewed
Speaker 15: the guy. But I can't find it for the life
Speaker 15: of me. I done spent the past two hours before
Speaker 15: you guys posted Your life looking for it. Gordon William A.
Speaker 15: Gordon was the authors called a fourth the Fourth of
Speaker 15: May killings and cover ups. Okay, he surmises, and you know,
Speaker 15: looked up he was. He's an editor on a newspaper
Speaker 15: at the time when you wrote this.
Speaker 7: But he thinks and knows for the fact that the
Speaker 7: CIA was involved with the whole fucking thing.
Speaker 2: Oh I believe so sure, But I mean, okay, if
Speaker 2: they burned down the r O. T C Building as
Speaker 2: a way to protest the war, and like, okay, now
Speaker 2: this is making sense why people were high.
Speaker 15: CIA burned down the ROTC building though, that's the point
Speaker 15: the guy got. Yeah, oh shit, it's a hot Gaelian dialect, bro,
Speaker 15: there's problem reaction solution. They did that shit on purpose
Speaker 15: because there was also another shooting.
Speaker 7: Out of college that's less famous.
Speaker 15: I got so much shit on this, I don't want
Speaker 15: to take up the whole show.
Speaker 7: Jackson State University.
Speaker 15: Two people were killed, nine people injured, giving you eleven
Speaker 15: I eleven. The whole significance to the art installation wasn't
Speaker 15: just the whole It looks like a portal and it's
Speaker 15: next to an Indian burial mound and a lake. I
Speaker 15: looked up this artist. His name's Christopher Cosmo. Went to
Speaker 15: Hudson High School right around the corner from us. It's
Speaker 15: a very affluent city. They're called the Hudson Explorers because
Speaker 15: all of this has relevance in my opinion. He moved
Speaker 15: to New York City became a sculpture artist, amongst other
Speaker 15: things out in New York City. Eventually he would go
Speaker 15: on to put an art installation in thirty Rockefeller Center
Speaker 15: on the main floor.
Speaker 7: So if you've ever been in that building, you've seen this,
Speaker 7: and it's a tribute to light.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 15: He also has an art installation on the grounds of
Speaker 15: Ground Zero. I can't find a picture of it to
Speaker 15: save my life. But that was in the whole page
Speaker 15: online that said he was.
Speaker 7: Getting inducted into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Y gotch.
Speaker 15: I think small. I think small events like can State
Speaker 15: and all these little shootings happened not just to push
Speaker 15: their agenda. I honestly think on a spiritual level that
Speaker 15: they do smaller events to stir up the energy to
Speaker 15: power bigger events to nine to eleven.
Speaker 7: Let me drop another one on you.
Speaker 15: Kent State, the memorial sign for the Kent State shootings
Speaker 15: is directly across from the memorial for Crown zero on
Speaker 15: the map by Google Map.
Speaker 7: This shit, it's directly across from each other.
Speaker 15: So then there's a guy on Instagram I follow who
Speaker 15: connects all these important sites and buildings to the tip of.
Speaker 7: The Pyramid of Giza.
Speaker 15: Kent State sign lines up with the top the northwest
Speaker 15: corner perfectly, and then when you do the line from
Speaker 15: Kent State to New York to the pyramid, it lines
Speaker 15: up dead center wall.
Speaker 7: I thought that was extremely interesting.
Speaker 1: So you're leaning more towards it being almost ritualistic as
Speaker 1: opposed to coincidental. Not saying that I believe. I don't
Speaker 1: believe in shit for coincidences, but like there, it does
Speaker 1: seem like there is way too many connections that are
Speaker 1: being involved there, and it would make you think that
Speaker 1: it might be some sort of ritualistic thing.
Speaker 15: Right absolutely, especially when you kill four Jewish people.
Speaker 2: Matthew, I feel like we need to have you on
Speaker 2: the show as a guest to talk about the kin
Speaker 2: State shooting because you seem to have a wealth of
Speaker 2: knowledge on it, and like, I feel like this in
Speaker 2: and of itself and everything you're talking about could be
Speaker 2: a whole episode, Jonathan.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, dude, get all your shit together and
Speaker 1: let's fucking let's put a whole show.
Speaker 7: I just ordered the book. I'm looking for the podcast.
Speaker 15: To go back and listen to it a little, and
Speaker 15: just doing as much sticking as I can.
Speaker 7: Dude, I got I got way more than this.
Speaker 15: I got a bigger story I've been working on that's
Speaker 15: currently happening right now with primary water down in Florida.
Speaker 3: You know what we're doing, Guys that.
Speaker 7: Over the place.
Speaker 2: Hit us in the messenger, either on Patriot or no,
Speaker 2: you're already only Instagram messaging.
Speaker 7: John that I just joined the Patreon too. I had
Speaker 7: to throw you guys ten bucks and join.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it you, sir, We love you. But yo,
Speaker 2: hit him up on Instagram whatever. We're going to schedule
Speaker 2: a time we're making this happen. This is this clearly.
Speaker 1: Must let's do it.
Speaker 7: Appreciate that, fellas, all.
Speaker 1: Right, brother, Yeah, we'll stay in touch. All right, Let's
Speaker 1: get back to the messages. Over here. Tony always make
Speaker 1: a big shout out to Tony. I love whenever Tony
Speaker 1: comes on here too. He says, I meant to join earlier,
Speaker 1: but somehow Patreon wasn't refreshing. Probably my fault, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to see if grew would come up. I believe
Speaker 1: that they are responsible for some things like Scripel, but
Speaker 1: the Russian bounty story has pretty much no evidence behind it,
Speaker 1: and it to me and it is.
Speaker 2: A little heated off of that episode. I saw the
Speaker 2: comments big dog, let's talk about the uh, the Russian
Speaker 2: paid hit situation. What is going on? Big dog?
Speaker 16: Tony sources well, any war dot com for example, ris
Speaker 16: Erlik and Scott Horton. And I did rewatch that video
Speaker 16: you posted from or you included in the episode from
Speaker 16: now This Politics from twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dude kind of went on a Trump hating
Speaker 2: tangent for a second. I was like, all right, let
Speaker 2: me take that with a grain of salt. But task
Speaker 2: and purpose is actually where it led me to talk
Speaker 2: about that one on this one and that that episode
Speaker 2: just got released.
Speaker 16: But go ahead, Oh okay, Yeah, I did not go
Speaker 16: all the way there, but I found lots of links
Speaker 16: to New York Times and other places, and I basically
Speaker 16: just found the same story over and over again. Some
Speaker 16: prisoners confess to these bounties. And there was one guy
Speaker 16: named Ramatulla Azizi who allegedly was the facilitator, and he fled,
Speaker 16: probably to Russia. But you know, nobody knows for sure.
Speaker 2: We know, I don't know where I'm with you.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I looked into that guy a little more. It
Speaker 16: seems like he was a drug dealer, like a lot
Speaker 16: of muckety MUCKs in Afghanistan, and he had been a
Speaker 16: US road construction contractor before that. But yeah, nobody knows
Speaker 16: where he is. And apparently he had some money. He
Speaker 16: had some cash, and it's really unknown where it came from.
Speaker 16: So what we have are a few stories from some
Speaker 16: prisoners who were they Have you heard of the expression
Speaker 16: of green lut and blue attacks. Basically, they joined the
Speaker 16: Afghan army, but then for some reason they stabbed their
Speaker 16: fellow soldiers in the back and would drag them or right.
Speaker 2: It was like a suicide bombing. It's the same concept,
Speaker 2: a little more of the long con approach. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's guy being a drug dealer. Most of the Taliban
Speaker 2: was Their main source of income has always been the
Speaker 2: poppy trade, like they are opium dealers. So to say
Speaker 2: that this guy was a shithead in more than one way,
Speaker 2: that makes sense to me.
Speaker 16: Yes, I can't prove I can't prove absolutely that there
Speaker 16: were no bounties. That's like trying to ask me to
Speaker 16: prove a negative. But what I can say is that
Speaker 16: there were also accusations that Iranians were paying them bounties
Speaker 16: to kill American soldiers, and there were even accusations that Chinese,
Speaker 16: that the Chinese government or intelligence were paying them bounties.
Speaker 16: And at some point I just personally I come to
Speaker 16: the conclusion that these are all just kind of random
Speaker 16: accusations to drag other enemies into the fight that aren't
Speaker 16: really involved. And in my opinion, Russia would have no
Speaker 16: reason to do that. None of these countries would have
Speaker 16: a reason to do that. That's not how proxy wars
Speaker 16: are fought, the way proxy wars are fought. Yeah, do
Speaker 16: you think we're.
Speaker 2: Paying Wagner, Dude, Wagner is not Russian forces, right, They
Speaker 2: are a private military contractor, the same way that like
Speaker 2: Blackwater is not military forces from the United States. They're
Speaker 2: a private military contractor. But when Blackwater is in a
Speaker 2: certain area, it can be reasonably assumed that United States
Speaker 2: dollars are at the paying them at the end of
Speaker 2: the day. Wagner fighters, it can be reasonably assumed that
Speaker 2: Rubles will be paying them at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying directly from a three letter agency,
Speaker 2: but kind of from an offshore approach to it. So
Speaker 2: to say that Russia didn't exactly mercenaries one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: but the government is the one paying these mercenaries. So
Speaker 2: in so fact though it's like a paramilitary army the
Speaker 2: way you slice it. So America had forces in areas
Speaker 2: that we shouldn't one hundred percent. Russia had forces in
Speaker 2: this area of conflict. And that's not like a crazy
Speaker 2: thing and what in Russian regular military of course, but yes,
Speaker 2: I believe that that was would be also a pretty
Speaker 2: reasonable assumption.
Speaker 16: Well, Russia's had friends in Afghanistan for a while, but
Speaker 16: they tend to be the Tajiks and the haizar as
Speaker 16: in the Northern Alliance, not the Passion It's not the Taliban, right,
Speaker 16: So this goes back the way that their war in
Speaker 16: Afghanistan in the nineteen, late seventies and eighties. Iran is
Speaker 16: also more aligned with the Huzzaras in Afghanistan than the
Speaker 16: pash Tunes because the Hizzars are she Heites and the
Speaker 16: pash Tunes or Sunies. So right, Yeah, the idea that
Speaker 16: they would be, you know, getting together, you know, to
Speaker 16: fight the Americans. I can imagine what if you said, hey,
Speaker 16: the Nazis and the Kammedis are getting together to fight
Speaker 16: the Americans. They just thought, in your mind, should be
Speaker 16: those those groups kind of don't like each other.
Speaker 2: This seems implausible, But to your point, Tony, they literally did.
Speaker 2: Stalin and Hitler were aligned to invade poland Russia went
Speaker 2: back on their word. That's the only reason, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: the Nazis actually went back on their word. That's the
Speaker 2: only reason that Stalin joined the alliance. So to your point, yes,
Speaker 2: unlikely enemies, unlikely friends will become you know, they'll team
Speaker 2: up to fuck up the enemy, the enemy of my
Speaker 2: enemy kind of thing.
Speaker 16: Okay, I guess that wasn't that wasn't the best example.
Speaker 16: But in today's context, yeah, they're understood to the enemies
Speaker 16: and just the whole the way what proxy wars are fought.
Speaker 16: Do you think we're paying bounties to Ukrainians to kill
Speaker 16: Russians right now?
Speaker 15: No?
Speaker 16: Oh, they don't need to pay bounties. They're plenty motivated already.
Speaker 16: That's how proxy wars work.
Speaker 2: Oh, America is absolutely paying bounties to other fighters and
Speaker 2: other forces like the CIA is absolutely doing some dark,
Speaker 2: underhanded shit. That whole thing wasn't just about Russia's evil,
Speaker 2: but it kind of got me because I got into
Speaker 2: a conversation with somebody about how like Russia's clearly the
Speaker 2: golden child and the good guy here Putin is amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, pause, if you say you like him
Speaker 2: because of X, Y or Z thing. At least I
Speaker 2: could have that conversation. But this person was just kind
Speaker 2: of going off like they just hadn't come up from
Speaker 2: a telegram rabbit hole in six months. And I was like, okay, dude,
Speaker 2: we at least got to take you with a grain
Speaker 2: of reality here, you know what I mean?
Speaker 16: Right? Yeah, And I think there's a tendency to see
Speaker 16: him as something like a savior figure because right now
Speaker 16: our country is not growing anymore like it used to,
Speaker 16: you know, when things seem bad here, I was listening
Speaker 16: to do another podcast earlier today about something called the
Speaker 16: business plot. You may have heard of it. In the
Speaker 16: nineteen thirties, some prominent businessmen were trying to overthrow Roosevelt
Speaker 16: and Smedley Butler major general.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 16: Yeah, But one of the guys was pointing out that
Speaker 16: the people, you know, older people in the nineteen twenties
Speaker 16: and thirties can remember the eighteen hundreds when American GDP
Speaker 16: growth was like double digits every year and the amount
Speaker 16: of progress was astonishing, and the and in the Great
Speaker 16: Depression it seemed to grind to a halt. But a
Speaker 16: lot of these guys were looking oversees a Hitler of
Speaker 16: all people, and said, well, you know, how can we
Speaker 16: make something like that happen here? And when you when
Speaker 16: you think about it that way, you can see how
Speaker 16: that idea would click in their head that we should
Speaker 16: we should overthrow our government. So, you know, I think
Speaker 16: people look at Putin the same way right now. They think,
Speaker 16: you know, Biden has taken us in a bad direction,
Speaker 16: and we can't make America great again, and you know
Speaker 16: even Trump can't seem to do it. But you know,
Speaker 16: maybe Putin's got the secret sauce, and you know, I
Speaker 16: tried to go that far with it. I'm I'm only
Speaker 16: so pro Russian, you know, Blache.
Speaker 2: No, no, I get it. But I mean to the
Speaker 2: people to your point, the people in the turn of
Speaker 2: the century of America. You're right, they grew up in
Speaker 2: a time when America was just boom, boom, boom, Grow grow, grow.
Speaker 2: But that's also because it was right after the Civil War.
Speaker 2: The reconstruction was on and manifest Destiny was on. So
Speaker 2: it was the big push to the West, and it
Speaker 2: was just go, go, go, influx, influx. We have immigrants
Speaker 2: coming in. We're pushing out west or making it. It
Speaker 2: was a big booming time. Then cut to the World
Speaker 2: War One happens, and the United States military promised these
Speaker 2: guys that they drafted into service in some cases that
Speaker 2: they would hold up their end of the bargain and
Speaker 2: give them benefits when they got out.
Speaker 3: They said, fuck you. So the veterans camped out.
Speaker 2: On the capital lawn for a couple weeks and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe I think maybe months, and they were just trying
Speaker 2: to protest to get the benefits that they were promised
Speaker 2: upon service. They approached Smedley Butler to lead this group.
Speaker 2: They called it the Bonus Army as a revolt to
Speaker 2: the American government, and they were actually fired upon by
Speaker 2: another soon to be famous general, General Patton, who was
Speaker 2: a captain at the time, firebombed their tent city. There
Speaker 2: was a couple of children murdered because again they brought
Speaker 2: their whole families there. They were homeless at that point,
Speaker 2: these veterans who came back from the trenches with mustard
Speaker 2: gas burns and all that shit. And yeah, the United
Speaker 2: States government absolutely murdered their own veterans that they sent
Speaker 2: to a war that they didn't want to be in.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's absolutely a thing. But yeah, then
Speaker 2: the Great Depression happens. I just watched this thing about
Speaker 2: the public works programs right that Eisenhower made where it
Speaker 2: was like, we hear about these these crazy projects that
Speaker 2: they built, like was the Hoover Dam and all all
Speaker 2: this shit, and how like the American infrastructure was pretty
Speaker 2: much built during that time. But because it was built
Speaker 2: during that time off of like promises and borrowed money
Speaker 2: and shit like that, that that's why American infrastructure is
Speaker 2: starting to crumble right now. We have all these bridges
Speaker 2: that are going into disrepair. It's like because time's up
Speaker 2: and all of this needs maintenance, and we no longer
Speaker 2: have the workless community that are just begging for jobs
Speaker 2: to go and do all this shit anymore, and or
Speaker 2: we don't have the men willing to get out there
Speaker 2: and bust their ass to earn it.
Speaker 16: Uh huh.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 16: And I lived in California in two thousand and eight
Speaker 16: when they passed the bond measure to build a high
Speaker 16: speed rail link from the Bay Area to la and
Speaker 16: it's still practically nothing's been built, and it's gone four
Speaker 16: times over the cost projection to one hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 16: And in the meantime, China has built like fifty thousand
Speaker 16: miles of high speed rail. So there's definitely a feeling
Speaker 16: and a justified feeling that we've lost something and how
Speaker 16: to recapture it. And I don't think there's a savior.
Speaker 16: Civilizations just kind of go through this. But yeah, there's
Speaker 16: one other thing I just wanted to add real quick,
Speaker 16: just a sum up. You know, I agree with your
Speaker 16: assessment that g r U exists. They probably killed scree Paul.
Speaker 16: I'm not sure about NAVALNI or litt Vignanko, but some
Speaker 16: of those, yeah, I was pretty well persuaded by that.
Speaker 16: But the Russian bounty thing, in my opinion, is maloney.
Speaker 16: So yeah, that's how I would sum.
Speaker 2: Up fairpoint, fair point, And again that bounty situation, like
Speaker 2: we are at that time going off of the word
Speaker 2: of the CIA. Okay, and yes you could look at
Speaker 2: the reports from the guys that found the money, but
Speaker 2: like five hundred thousand dollars US, Yes, that's a large
Speaker 2: sum for a random Afghany shithead to just have in
Speaker 2: his hovel. I agree, But if you were paying one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars per contract, you're telling me your boy
Speaker 2: only had enough to pay for five hits. And like,
Speaker 2: we also don't know what classified as a successful hit.
Speaker 2: Was a ied was that considered a good kill and
Speaker 2: like they would get paid for that or was that
Speaker 2: like a luck of the draw thing. Was it a
Speaker 2: suicide bomber and his family would get the moil. I
Speaker 2: we don't know, And at that point it's completely conjecturing
Speaker 2: up to like which report we're believing. But to say
Speaker 2: that hits were carried out like in that manner, especially,
Speaker 2: I could see it, especially if it was for like
Speaker 2: high ranking, like a specific kernel, specific general or something
Speaker 2: like this that like I could understand like a price
Speaker 2: being on those heads for sure.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I still I highly doubt it. I can't prove negative.
Speaker 16: But there's one last thought. Those will be my one
Speaker 16: last one. But in eighteen ninety eight, when the US's
Speaker 16: main exploded, there's a big temptation for people to believe
Speaker 16: Spain did it. We need to get revenge, and in
Speaker 16: reality it was probably just the boiler explosion in an accident, right,
Speaker 16: And we're never gonna know one hundred percent for sure,
Speaker 16: but you know, IIH lean toward the boiler explodes, and
Speaker 16: it's just that's not as sexy, and that doesn't that
Speaker 16: doesn't motivate people. But you know a lot of people
Speaker 16: wanted to believe this. You know, we needed to go
Speaker 16: to word with Spain and then it happened that way.
Speaker 2: Got to remember the other dude, that's more of a
Speaker 2: that's more of a slogan people can get behind.
Speaker 16: Yeah, and there's so many Democrats even before the Ukraine
Speaker 16: War popped off in twenty twenty two, they believe sincerely
Speaker 16: that Russia installed Trump as president in twenty sixteen. It's
Speaker 16: not true. But they believe it and they hate Russia.
Speaker 16: They hate puting for that reason, and you know this
Speaker 16: fits into that worldview and they can't dislodge it easily.
Speaker 16: I think most of the mainstream media has kind of
Speaker 16: walked away from this story.
Speaker 2: I could.
Speaker 16: I had a hard time finding results about it newer
Speaker 16: than it's twenty twenty, So they mostly walked away from it.
Speaker 16: And I figured they would have clung onto it if
Speaker 16: it were at least plausible. And I think you touched
Speaker 16: on this, but like, why do you think mainstream media
Speaker 16: has walked away from this even if it's plausibly true,
Speaker 16: the whole bounty.
Speaker 2: Situation, Because I think that they can't. That's a Pandora's
Speaker 2: box that you can't close. And I think they realized
Speaker 2: it and took a hard left. And it's not just
Speaker 2: towards Russia. Let's say that let's say Russia wasn't even connected.
Speaker 2: Let's say that that was just the boogeyman title associated
Speaker 2: with the bounties. Cool, Let's say it was India for
Speaker 2: shits and gigs here, Okay. The thing is, it's like,
Speaker 2: once you release whoever was really like doing this? If
Speaker 2: that story is true, and people are saying it's plausibly
Speaker 2: true in all this, there's no way that you can't
Speaker 2: declare war on that country at that point. And nobody
Speaker 2: wants America to actually declare war on Russia. No, Like
Speaker 2: that's bad for business on all sides. That would be horrible,
Speaker 2: you know. And I think that they realized it so
Speaker 2: they couldn't scrub the story because it had already been released,
Speaker 2: but they were able to tell everybody, hey, stop talking
Speaker 2: about it now.
Speaker 16: I don't know, yeah, maybe, Well, anyway, thank you for
Speaker 16: entertaining my thoughts on this and a great show everybody.
Speaker 16: So I'm gonna mute myself.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Brother, I'm glad you're here because I was hoping you
Speaker 2: would be. I saw your comments on the group episode
Speaker 2: and I was like, Bro, Tony's gonna need to talk
Speaker 2: to me about some of these things for show. And
Speaker 2: I'm glad you were here, bro, because this is the
Speaker 2: time and place to have that forum, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 12: Fuck yeah, yeah, fuck yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Tony. Love that guy. I just I can
Speaker 1: hear you guys ramble on back and forth, and I
Speaker 1: may not have any remnant of a clue as to
Speaker 1: what the fuck it is you're talking about, but still
Speaker 1: very entertaining. Nonetheless, while you guys homies dud. While you
Speaker 1: guys were doing that, I was looking up a little
Speaker 1: bit on your boy, General Patton. You know, we've talked
Speaker 1: about him as to could that be what was it like,
Speaker 1: could you have possibly been like Trump's dad or grandfather
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, And so I just typed in General
Speaker 1: Patten and Donald Trump, and I came up with the
Speaker 1: first link that came on here was a Politico article
Speaker 1: from twenty sixteen, because allegedly Trump had like a crazy
Speaker 1: amount of respect and admiration for General Patten, and they
Speaker 1: were going into all the things that Patten stood for, obviously,
Speaker 1: like all the bad things that have ever he's ever
Speaker 1: attached himself to. And look like they do that because
Speaker 1: they're trying to say, see, this is why Trump like Patten,
Speaker 1: because he was a Nazi sympathizer and all this kind
Speaker 1: of other crazy shit. And I'm reading it, bro, and
Speaker 1: I actually had no idea that Patten was like this.
Speaker 2: But like what, well, he did believe in reincarnation for instance.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not even talking about that. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about like what was going on in World War two.
Speaker 1: Whenever he was over there in Germany, he was like
Speaker 1: one of the people that were like there to kind
Speaker 1: of keep the keep the Jews like fed and safe
Speaker 1: and shit like that. But it says he said, it
Speaker 1: was hard enough to get the streets cleared and keep
Speaker 1: Germans from starving to death. Patten wasn't interested in denotification
Speaker 1: or creating a lesson for future tyrants. He thought that
Speaker 1: it was madness to imprison Nazis, good soldiers who were
Speaker 1: much more valuable as future allies against the Soviets than
Speaker 1: the Jewish survivors he was charged with protecting and feeding.
Speaker 1: It says, disturbingly, Patten had zero sympathy for the Holocaust
Speaker 1: victims living in the wretched, overcrowded collection camps under his command.
Speaker 1: He was unable to imagine that living people in such
Speaker 1: misery were not there because of their own flaws. The
Speaker 1: displaced Jews, he called them locusts, lower than animals, lost
Speaker 1: to all decency. He said that they were a sub
Speaker 1: human species without any of the cultural or social refinements
Speaker 1: of our time. Holy shit, he really had something to
Speaker 1: say about that.
Speaker 2: Uhs. Just so we're clear, like having antisemitic viewpoints at
Speaker 2: that day and age wasn't crazy.
Speaker 3: Like it's not like the Nazis were the.
Speaker 2: Only people screaming fucked Jews, Like that was a pretty
Speaker 2: common consensus. Like the racism was a thing. It was
Speaker 2: They're very race against black people, against Jewish people. They
Speaker 2: had at this point, they still had racism against the Irish, dude,
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, Like they had racism
Speaker 2: against the Italians.
Speaker 1: Well, it says a United Nations aid worker tried to
Speaker 1: explain that they were traumatized, but in quotes from Patin, personally,
Speaker 1: I doubt it. I have never looked at a group
Speaker 1: of people who seemed to be lack who seemed to
Speaker 1: be more lacking in intelligence and spirit. And then he
Speaker 1: went on to say that it says Patten was also
Speaker 1: no friend to Arabs either. In a nineteen forty three
Speaker 1: letter he was in reference to the Arabs, he called
Speaker 1: them the mixture of all the bad races on earth,
Speaker 1: were the bitper racist.
Speaker 2: And to your point, yeah, he actually just kind of
Speaker 2: wanted to use the prisoner Nazis as frontline soldiers to
Speaker 2: attack the Kamis because his thought was like, Okay, the
Speaker 2: war's not over, we need to take all of our tanks,
Speaker 2: all of our manpower that's here.
Speaker 3: Right now, and attack Russia right now. And everybody's like, wait.
Speaker 2: No, dude, they were our allies. They helped us fight
Speaker 2: the Nazis. He's like, yeah, cool, fuck them, we need
Speaker 2: to go attack s Dolin.
Speaker 3: Now he wanted to use the Nazis.
Speaker 2: As cannon fodder.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I guess that he would be pretty
Speaker 1: much on board with Zelensky using the Nazis over in
Speaker 1: Ukraine to fight Russia then, right.
Speaker 2: He wasn't a politician. Patten was a one hundred percent
Speaker 2: through and through military tactician. He didn't care about human
Speaker 2: emotions or feelings or empathy. That's these are not words
Speaker 2: that he was very familiar with. He he actually had
Speaker 2: political cartoons made of him for slapping the shit out
Speaker 2: of one of his soldiers who was scared. Like this
Speaker 2: one kid, this private who it was a draftee, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, he didn't want to be there.
Speaker 2: Some kid graduated high school just finds himself fighting Nazis
Speaker 2: and he's like got shell shock. At that time, they
Speaker 2: didn't call it PTSD. Patten like knocks the dog shit
Speaker 2: out of this guy and it becomes so popular and
Speaker 2: so fantasized that it becomes a political cartoon where they
Speaker 2: have a swastika on Patent's boot stomping on this kid.
Speaker 2: He has to go and have a whole battalion formation
Speaker 2: and formally apologize to this little fucker for being a
Speaker 2: cry baby, like he didn't care. That's not Patent dude.
Speaker 2: So yeah, when it came time to oh you need
Speaker 2: to torch these guys, Oh were they veterans, Well, they
Speaker 2: should know who's in charge if they served, And yeah,
Speaker 2: he fucking he was a part of it.
Speaker 1: So supposedly the reason why Trump he brought on mad
Speaker 1: Dog at first was because he was the most like Patent.
Speaker 1: That was his quote as as far as saying that, like,
Speaker 1: we don't have any general like this anymore, and we
Speaker 1: don't have people who are just about that shit kicking
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, and that mad Dog
Speaker 1: madness was the closest thing that there was to that
Speaker 1: in this current age.
Speaker 2: I will say mad Dog was not racist. I can
Speaker 2: confirm with absolute certainty that I know that he is
Speaker 2: at least slightly into African American women. So I can
Speaker 2: promise you there's no racism in our boy mad dog.
Speaker 2: But as far as being a hardline in general that
Speaker 2: doesn't care for your excuses, there should be a more
Speaker 2: efficient way of killing the bad guys somewhere in there.
Speaker 2: Like that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Everyone's favorite wasion.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, sir, yes, Going back to Patton anyway, Sorry,
Speaker 6: there's the thing that he got shot in the neck
Speaker 6: with a rubber bullet on on Eisenhower's orders, that he
Speaker 6: and Eisenhower rivals and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, you get.
Speaker 1: So that.
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I've watched the documentary, I read the
Speaker 4: book and everything over it, but it's been a couple
Speaker 4: of years. But anyway, Patten, he he beat one of
Speaker 4: his own soldiers, one of his own soldiers on another time,
Speaker 4: and like Leary told his men, if they were sick
Speaker 4: and dying, to get up, walk it off. You'll get better,
Speaker 4: which is true. But all you need is change the
Speaker 4: socks motion and push water you'll be all right. But
Speaker 4: but anyway, Patten, he he wanted to try to get
Speaker 4: Eisene a kid but pretty much booted. He wanted to
Speaker 4: become the general of the army. He had political ambient ambitions,
Speaker 4: but so did Eisenhowers. But it was more of a
Speaker 4: power play, like how Hitler killed Rammel. It was because
Speaker 4: Patton came across some intel on this oss on. I'll
Speaker 4: just try to find the foul and send it back
Speaker 4: to yall. I'm stamming, sorry, but going back to it,
Speaker 4: he also too when they were at the college, shooting
Speaker 4: them at the with the thirty out sixes them on grens.
Speaker 4: It kind of took me back to the Teneman Square
Speaker 4: and China how they took how they attacked their college students.
Speaker 4: And one of the famous things from that time was,
Speaker 4: excuse me, was when that they when the uh, the
Speaker 4: guy got run over by the tank and China said
Speaker 4: they didn't know that never happened. But I've seen the footage.
Speaker 4: I remember watching it in elementary school, learning about it.
Speaker 4: So I don't know have do you'all ever heard about
Speaker 4: the Tenaham Square.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, tam and Square was a big deal, dude.
Speaker 2: That was when China pretty much just mowed down was
Speaker 2: like hundreds of college kids, wasn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah? And they they the footage got leaked and everything,
Speaker 4: but China throws up and down that it did really happened.
Speaker 4: That was Western propaganda.
Speaker 2: Of course, according to China, these crazy mass attacks that
Speaker 2: are happening in their country right now aren't real, even
Speaker 2: though the news reports it and then has to report
Speaker 2: that that was fake or whatever. Their economic system is
Speaker 2: not crashing. They are like, super have you seen that
Speaker 2: new jet that they released? Have we shown that on
Speaker 2: the show yet?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Oh, dude, the White Emperor Jet. Oh, I'm gonna look
Speaker 2: this up, Jonathan. Let's go to the chat for a second.
Speaker 2: But like, dude, this new jet that they have released
Speaker 2: that they are claiming is like some sort of seventh
Speaker 2: gen stealth whatever the fuck. It looks like an anime
Speaker 2: character fucked a jet and this is what came out.
Speaker 2: I swear to god.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, so uh, dougie, badass blunkin' welcome back to
Speaker 1: the show, dude, Happy to have you. But he says
Speaker 1: that there are they say that some of these drones
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, some of the drones are the size
Speaker 1: of a small car, and some theorize that they are
Speaker 1: reaper drones. That's pretty fucking terrifying.
Speaker 2: It could be.
Speaker 1: All right, what are we looking at, Jacob unknown aircraft?
Speaker 2: All right, so this is the new jet the White
Speaker 2: Emperor that the Chinese military has put forward and.
Speaker 3: Apparently this isn't even a functioning jet.
Speaker 2: This is just a concept that they are releasing, and
Speaker 2: they're saying that this is gonna be like the jet
Speaker 2: to pretty much shut down the American air superiority conversation.
Speaker 2: It's this thing doesn't fly.
Speaker 3: It, this is this is ridiculous shit.
Speaker 1: Oh it kind of looks like a moth.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It looks like a cartoon figure.
Speaker 2: It doesn't.
Speaker 3: This looks like it was three D printed.
Speaker 2: And they yeah, so talking about the wild shit of
Speaker 2: China like they're acting like this is real life, and
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, China, bed maybe doing China things, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's us your ping.
Speaker 1: So as far as going back to that whole drone
Speaker 1: situation of her in Jersey, Zombie said, Jersey will be
Speaker 1: okay and saved. Dougie said, I live in Jersey. Hopefully
Speaker 1: I don't get alien abducted. Your favorite Ways said they
Speaker 1: just want that man milk to take it back to
Speaker 1: a prior conversation we had, and Dougie said, I will
Speaker 1: just have to teach them how to blumkin properly.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, if you were to successfully get a
Speaker 2: blumkin from an alien, I think that the level of
Speaker 2: legendary that you would have achieved would be I would
Speaker 2: say unmatched, sir. I hope for the best, and I
Speaker 2: hope that you get the nastiest blunkin' from some sort
Speaker 2: of alien.
Speaker 3: That sounds magical, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would say so. I mean, just imagine.
Speaker 2: Maybe the alien can't smell, dude, Maybe they don't have
Speaker 2: a nose, so like it doesn't matter to them. It's
Speaker 2: just whatever.
Speaker 1: Could be could be. Yeah, I'm just looking through some
Speaker 1: of the messages here. H Dougie said, uh friggin turning
Speaker 1: uh turning into no country for old men with his
Speaker 1: bolt gun?
Speaker 2: Uh two for real? Fucking what intarnation is happening here?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: What in tarnation?
Speaker 2: Fucking somebody grabbed the flint lock out here?
Speaker 1: Yeah the way Jon said, my go to gun, I
Speaker 1: have a grip on and a red dot on is
Speaker 1: my twenty two win mag.
Speaker 3: Your e DC is a twenty two win mag.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, it's my celt Tech, so look up and
Speaker 4: see him of thirty helt tech.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would you you would rock a Keltech for
Speaker 2: EDC For those that aren't very well versed in the
Speaker 2: gun word. Kel Tech makes functional weapons, they do, but
Speaker 2: it is the weirdest alien looking plastic They an alien
Speaker 2: that jizz is plastic jizzed all over a rifle barrel
Speaker 2: that works, and like they stamped it and said, fuck yeah,
Speaker 2: send it. It's wild. It's it works. I've never heard
Speaker 2: of a Celtech having like a function error. It's just
Speaker 2: the weirdest looking shit I'm to see. But the pistols
Speaker 2: I've seen they don't seem weird. It's the rifles that
Speaker 2: mostly look like a weird alien gun to me.
Speaker 1: Hmm, Tony said. Patten has also been portrayed as a
Speaker 1: savior figure on the far right due to his quotes
Speaker 1: on the Jews.
Speaker 2: He didn't like them, Yeah, so did a by the way,
Speaker 2: Ulysses As Grant. Yeah, people don't want to talk about that,
Speaker 2: but he really hated the Jews, like, really hated them.
Speaker 3: And blacks.
Speaker 2: Ulysses As Grant did not care for the Blacks whatsoever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was the whole thing.
Speaker 1: There's not enough Ulysses is out there in the world
Speaker 1: these days.
Speaker 2: I think it's a solid name. Personally, I tend to
Speaker 2: like the the ancient or the traditional, even traditional to
Speaker 2: the traditional names, you know, like good Greek names like that,
Speaker 2: like when I see a Pontius, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like yes, and there's biblical reasons for that, but like
Speaker 2: on some other levels, like, bro, your first name is Pawntius.
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of dope, you know what I mean, Pawntius.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Constantine' or Justinian. Your first name is Justinian, Like
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of pimp.
Speaker 1: It is pretty bad.
Speaker 2: You will go by Justin, but like, you know, like
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we had talked about forming another baby here soon,
Speaker 1: and if it's a girl, dude, we're gonna go with
Speaker 1: Claire because I'm thinking, and she's gonna disagree with this,
Speaker 1: but I would love to call her like Claire Sentient,
Speaker 1: maybe Claire audience maybe, uh, you know, was just one
Speaker 1: of the magical Claire's out there. It's just gotta be thought.
Speaker 2: It was gonna have some sort of family meaning you
Speaker 2: took it to do woo woo things.
Speaker 1: Why not Claire Crystal, Claire cognizant.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you don't name a girl Crystal.
Speaker 1: Oh I dated a Crystal. I would never do that
Speaker 1: to a daughter of mine. Good call bro, there, let
Speaker 1: me just tell you a fun little story about Crystal. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, Bro. I dated her for two months,
Speaker 1: and uh, like we were on and off again because
Speaker 1: we always got into fights. I was like twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Actually I think I was like eighteen or nineteen, but
Speaker 1: we were really young. We're always going out and getting
Speaker 1: shit faced at the bars and all that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff always. I mean, it was fun temporarily, but at
Speaker 1: the time, I was working at a gas station over nights.
Speaker 1: I was working over at Tiger Mart Office seventy three.
Speaker 2: And by the Gypsies, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And she would always ask if she could like take
Speaker 1: my car out to go to one of her friend's house.
Speaker 1: And at the time I had it was like a
Speaker 1: like a two thousand and two. It was a convertible Firebird,
Speaker 1: and dude, this car was sick for the time, right,
Speaker 1: And so I was like, yeah, yeah, that's fine. You know,
Speaker 1: I was working overnight. I felt bad that she didn't
Speaker 1: have nothing to do while I was working or whatever,
Speaker 1: so she would take my car. She said, she was
Speaker 1: just gonna go down the road to her friend's house. Bro,
Speaker 1: and then we ended up breaking up like a couple
Speaker 1: of months later, and the I was I was like
Speaker 1: pretty good friends with her cousin also, it was like
Speaker 1: a part of the whole friend group we were in.
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get back together with Crystal. I you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: I just made a mistake whatever. And she was like, dude,
Speaker 1: don't fucking do it. And I was like what why?
Speaker 1: And she was like, I'm just telling you, just don't
Speaker 1: do it. And I said, well, I'm gonna do it
Speaker 1: unless you give me a reason why, Like what is it?
Speaker 1: And she goes, you know what, I'm not gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get you on a three way call
Speaker 1: and you just pretend like you're not here, and I'll
Speaker 1: have her singing like a bird. Bro We dated for
Speaker 1: two months. She openly admitted to cheating on me with
Speaker 1: fifty different guys in two months. Fifty five. Oh keep
Speaker 1: in mind, it's not like we weren't having sex or anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 2: Not a big town, fifty fucking dudes.
Speaker 1: Bro out in Biara. That's how they be over there, dude.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, So she caught the aids.
Speaker 1: I hope not well at least she didn't give it
Speaker 1: to me anyway, But she's.
Speaker 2: Dirty dicking it like that then in br at least
Speaker 2: if she didn't end, then she's probably caught fucking extra
Speaker 2: squirrel aids at this time. Dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so needless to say, my kid will not be
Speaker 1: getting named Crystal. Okay, that's that's the story behind that. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: my bed Uh everybody's favorite wasion. Go ahead and show us, sir.
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is my eighties c if sorry, I
Speaker 4: have some bullshit in the background. It's a thirty fourth suppressor.
Speaker 4: I have a full grip that turns into bip. I
Speaker 4: got a red dot old study one rounds.
Speaker 2: It means every day carry you carry that every day?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wait, wait Sam, Sam, Sam, hold on you like sling.
Speaker 2: That and carry it on your back every day?
Speaker 4: I carry it in my car.
Speaker 2: But okay, don't I keep my nine mil on me?
Speaker 4: But that, okay, has one in it. And I have
Speaker 4: a buddy of mine who's who can make me round.
Speaker 4: He's about to make twenty two twenty two in mag obviously,
Speaker 4: but instead of being flat nosed or hall of point,
Speaker 4: is gonna have a sharp tip.
Speaker 2: Sam I one day I simply must traverse to your
Speaker 2: neck of the woods.
Speaker 5: Don't that.
Speaker 3: Don't come to hood, He'll don't do it.
Speaker 5: I want to get the hell out of here. Don't
Speaker 5: do it?
Speaker 2: Oh why not?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 4: So no, I'm just crazy as fuck.
Speaker 2: That was kind of guaranteed.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have guessed that at all.
Speaker 5: This is where people are.
Speaker 4: So there's only three things guaranteed in this town. That's
Speaker 4: the prison system, drugs, the graveyard. And I want to
Speaker 4: live a lot longer.
Speaker 5: But people come here to die.
Speaker 4: My town in the fifties was supposed to be, was
Speaker 4: projected to get bigger than Atlanta. We were the state
Speaker 4: capitol for a single night in the Civil War. We
Speaker 4: didn't get torched. We cand my town fault. We have
Speaker 4: a tight and one missile like beside the crystals, like
Speaker 4: on our main road that so allegedly still has attached
Speaker 4: nuclear warhead too.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, I'm gonna need you to just back
Speaker 2: on up. You just said you have a potential nuclear
Speaker 2: warhead next to the crystals, Samuel. What crystals are we
Speaker 2: referring to at this time, sir? Uh not?
Speaker 4: No, the little fucking sliders uh not not crystal methaphetaminet
Speaker 4: that that's what my dad told when I was younger.
Speaker 3: Wait, you have like giant crystals surrounding a nuke.
Speaker 4: No, it's the crystal sandwiches.
Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah, bro, we're talking about crystals and woo
Speaker 2: wu shit. I'm like, I'm sorry, what's happening in your
Speaker 2: town with a nuke and crystals? Big dog? No you
Speaker 2: mean the burgers? All right? Dope? Dope? Okay, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 4: I love my town, but I just want to get
Speaker 4: the hell out of it. I want to go someplace
Speaker 4: where I don't have to worry about.
Speaker 17: Oh.
Speaker 4: I just don't want to have to be here.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 7: I've lived here my whole life.
Speaker 2: I left, I came back.
Speaker 7: I just want to get to tell it out.
Speaker 4: I actually want to come to Louisiana, but my NGOs
Speaker 4: would be out west somewhere with a homestead, and my
Speaker 4: house be bathed ten feet deep, but it more of
Speaker 4: a bunker.
Speaker 2: So I suggest the desert.
Speaker 1: As we're heads, as Matthew Lane, and as Matthew Lane
Speaker 1: just said, you're never going to be a prophet in
Speaker 1: your own hometown. This is true, Kevin Gates. I said,
Speaker 1: I believe as well to hit the road. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: for sure. Oh uh, Sam, if you wouldn't mind showing
Speaker 1: that beautiful piece one more again, so uh we can
Speaker 1: see it a little bit bad?
Speaker 4: Uh? And would you say it was By the way,
Speaker 4: it is a Celtech CMR thirty it's a twenty two
Speaker 4: in mac. It is a thirty four suppressor. I have
Speaker 4: a bipod that drops down, and it's a full grid
Speaker 4: that drops down into a bipod. I have my red
Speaker 4: dot in in case my red dot dies, I still
Speaker 4: have my iron sight right there, just a point and shoot.
Speaker 4: This collapse and it holds thirty one rounds.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I don't hate it. It's a Celtech,
Speaker 2: but that doesn't look ridiculous by any means.
Speaker 3: It looks like a pretty decent.
Speaker 2: Little twenty two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but see it collapses down and it's not I
Speaker 4: bought it legally, obviously, but it does not register as
Speaker 4: a rifle and it's not registered as a pistol. It
Speaker 4: is registered as a callbine.
Speaker 2: I like it. You have a bipod and collapsible stock
Speaker 2: on the same weapon. I find that to be a
Speaker 2: fun choice. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, you're ready for
Speaker 2: CQB and you're ready for a little reach out and
Speaker 2: touch somebody. It's kind of whatever, float your boat.
Speaker 4: I like it that that's in case shit hits fan,
Speaker 4: I can drop down and I can do support and
Speaker 4: fire because I'm a plate carrier, my plate care. I
Speaker 4: have it where I can hold like twelve more clips,
Speaker 4: well magazines or whatever you want to call them. I
Speaker 4: don't give a shit. It's all about paxicality.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I like it. Not gonna lie. I just
Speaker 2: came back from a weekend of shooting twenty two with
Speaker 2: my Sonny does competition shooting, and so yeah, it's funnel round.
Speaker 4: Funnel shit is a preferred round of hitman. By the way,
Speaker 4: a lot of mafia they would do it for well
Speaker 4: obviously hits on the own guys. The c I used
Speaker 4: it and it's its agency. Was built originally for females
Speaker 4: to have a self detective gun.
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, uh, Matthew, your hand was raised a moment
Speaker 2: ago you dropped it. I didn't know if that was
Speaker 2: intentional or not, sir.
Speaker 15: Yeah, then I second guessed myself. Bro, I'll hop on
Speaker 15: where did Sam say where he's from? Cause where I'm at.
Speaker 15: I think I need those guns a little more.
Speaker 1: Joja Georgia.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, peak, Yeah, where are you at again, Matthew?
Speaker 15: I'm in Akron, Ohio. But like i'm your Section eight housing.
Speaker 15: It's got awful here, Like so teenagers are killing white
Speaker 15: thirty year old males constantly around here. It's just like
Speaker 15: gets disgusting. And we just had our second team killing
Speaker 15: by the cops in like two three year Shit's about
Speaker 15: to hit the fan out here.
Speaker 2: What's the gun laws in Ohio? Like we got open kerry, Okay, I.
Speaker 15: Just I've never been a gun guy. I never grow
Speaker 15: up around. Got plenty of gun friends who have. I
Speaker 15: got a lot, and I recommagine killed their own.
Speaker 7: But I've never all right, I had a.
Speaker 15: Gun once, all right, when I was a young man,
Speaker 15: and I shouldn't have had it, and I.
Speaker 7: Had to move back home for like two months. My
Speaker 7: stepdad found it and buried it in the backyard. I
Speaker 7: haven't had a gun since.
Speaker 3: See, your stepdad's a cook, I get it.
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, that's a long story too, but yeah, I've
Speaker 15: definitely been considering it for a long time. But then
Speaker 15: there was just an eight year old literally yesterday an
Speaker 15: eight year old who killed himself an acron shot himself
Speaker 15: in the gut.
Speaker 7: So a shit like that I got.
Speaker 15: I got a lot of kids, man, I'm terrified to
Speaker 15: have guns around them, but I'm terrified.
Speaker 7: Not to have one on me.
Speaker 15: I've been robbed by gun point and there was a
Speaker 15: murder right across the street from me. Kid just ran
Speaker 15: in the house, shot a girl and killed her right
Speaker 15: in front of her kids.
Speaker 7: That was a big story here.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Lebron James being from Akron, Ohio.
Speaker 15: Lebron James's mother was like fourteen fifteen, maybe sixteen when
Speaker 15: she had him.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure his father.
Speaker 15: Was a player on the Cavs back in the day
Speaker 15: when they played in Richfield, Ohio, which is very close
Speaker 15: to Akron, much closer. It's like in between Akron and Cleveland.
Speaker 15: I saw something probably fifteen years ago about it. I
Speaker 15: can't remember the player's name, but he was built just
Speaker 15: like Lebron his. Have you guys seen his I promise school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 15: Have you seen what the ends like? This front entrance
Speaker 15: looks like sin as you walk in. It's got dual
Speaker 15: stairs and it's brought checkered floors. Bro It's like a
Speaker 15: firm freemason jerk off fest in there.
Speaker 2: I will say this, dude, as a as a father
Speaker 2: and as a gun guy, the best way to do
Speaker 2: both is to teach your children firearm safety. Okay. And
Speaker 2: it's not like there's a lot of levels to this.
Speaker 2: There's four basic rules. Treat never, keep, keep, Treat every
Speaker 2: weapon as if it is loaded. Never point a weapon
Speaker 2: anything you don't intend to shoot, keep your finger straighten
Speaker 2: off the trigger until your aaid to fire, and keep
Speaker 2: the weapon on safe until your ready to fire. You
Speaker 2: drill that into their head like etch it in Stone, right.
Speaker 2: But I also as a gun owner, we'll tell you this.
Speaker 2: Keeping them locked up is good.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: That's for most of them.
Speaker 2: For a pistol that you would carry, or something that
Speaker 2: you would need if you heard something in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night or something like that, you would want
Speaker 2: that readily accessible. Here's the deal. A found gun is
Speaker 2: a dangerous gun. Okay.
Speaker 3: If your kid.
Speaker 2: Doesn't know that you have a twelve gage in the
Speaker 2: closet and is fucking around in your closet because kids
Speaker 2: just do that, and finds it, now it's a problem.
Speaker 2: If you tell your children that you have a gun
Speaker 2: and it's right here, and they know that is where
Speaker 2: the gun goes. That is where that thing is located,
Speaker 2: and they know not to touch it. And you bring
Speaker 2: them to a firing range and you show them, you
Speaker 2: let them hear with no earplugs, what that sounds like,
Speaker 2: what it does to a target. Like, you teach them correctly,
Speaker 2: and then when you tell them that this is where
Speaker 2: this goes, they know not to touch it. Childlike curiosity
Speaker 2: is not gonna tell them, Hey, the big loud thing
Speaker 2: that sounds like God's roaring at you that could kill you, Like, hey,
Speaker 2: don't fuck with it, you know what I mean. As
Speaker 2: far as a pistol for you to carry, I highly
Speaker 2: recommend you do it, especially if the area you're living
Speaker 2: in is that dangerous. Bro, A cheap, decent nine millimeter
Speaker 2: for two hundred and fifty dollars and a holster for
Speaker 2: fifty could be the matter of life and death. And
Speaker 2: if it's really a prevalent threat like you're talking about,
Speaker 2: I would carry openly every day. Bro. I carry every day,
Speaker 2: but that's because I'm me. But for especially somebody who's
Speaker 2: in a spot like you are, big.
Speaker 15: Dog, Yeah, it's bad. Like I said, I grew up
Speaker 15: in Kent. It's much tamer there. And that's Monny's Akronyan
Speaker 15: can't both have Matt colleges too, so they're very well connected.
Speaker 7: But it's night and day.
Speaker 15: It's like a beautiful getaway oasis that Kent almost compared
Speaker 15: to Akronsing.
Speaker 7: What the fuck did I just walk in into over here?
Speaker 7: But I've been living out here past.
Speaker 15: Well, I lived on a farce further like more rural
Speaker 15: area backround for a while, so I was like in
Speaker 15: and out of the city here and there.
Speaker 7: But now I live like right outside of it. It's terrifying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: it's crazy.
Speaker 15: I do there was all right, So I got twelve
Speaker 15: year olds who's big into football and.
Speaker 1: I.
Speaker 15: We don't like the We didn't like the team they
Speaker 15: have set up in his town, like right around the
Speaker 15: corner for his school and everything. That's terrible coaching favoritism.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: My kids too talented. I didn't want them to play there.
Speaker 15: We ended up playing for pretty much an inner city
Speaker 15: team this year. We were the only white people. He
Speaker 15: was the only white player, one of two in the
Speaker 15: whole league. Was a shooting for the second.
Speaker 7: Year in a row at one of our games. Teenagers
Speaker 7: shooting guns. That's how bad this shit is.
Speaker 1: Oh, bro, trust me, Like I you know, I played
Speaker 1: football my whole life, but then I went on and
Speaker 1: I played like it was like ten years of semi
Speaker 1: pro ball, and we were playing like twice a year.
Speaker 1: We'd do springball and fall ball. And during that there
Speaker 1: was a game where we had to go like we
Speaker 1: were from Baton Rouge, but we traveled really all over
Speaker 1: the state and sometimes we would go into Texas and
Speaker 1: some Mississippi games and stuff like that. Well there was
Speaker 1: one time, dude, we had a game down in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and they take shit personal down there. So there
Speaker 1: was a game where I'm not normally somebody who likes
Speaker 1: to be on like I always told my coach, like,
Speaker 1: please do not put me on fucking kickoff or kick
Speaker 1: return team. I hate it. That's too much running. And
Speaker 1: then I got to go out there and play defense,
Speaker 1: and I'm all winded. It's good for nobody. But anyway,
Speaker 1: this particular time, I was on the kickoff team and
Speaker 1: I was running down and I was trying to uh,
Speaker 1: oh no, I'm sorry. I was on the kick return team,
Speaker 1: and so everybody's coming towards us, and my goal is
Speaker 1: to just try and basically blow up whoever's coming my
Speaker 1: way so the kick return it can run it back
Speaker 1: as far as they can. Well, there was this one guy. Dude,
Speaker 1: I blindsided the fuck out of this guy right, like
Speaker 1: blew his shit up, like lifting him up off his feet.
Speaker 1: It was it was glorious actually, and and everybody in
Speaker 1: the whole stadium there were all you heard was oh,
Speaker 1: And it was like kind of embarrassing for homie, I guess, dude.
Speaker 1: After the game, everybody there was only me and one
Speaker 1: other white kid on the team, and he went over
Speaker 1: to his car after the game, went to go get
Speaker 1: his gun and was going up getting ready like to
Speaker 1: approach the other white guy on on my team, right
Speaker 1: he thought it was him or whatever, fifty fifty chance,
Speaker 1: I guess, but and he was getting dude, he was gunning,
Speaker 1: getting ready to come and gu me down because I
Speaker 1: blew his shit up and embarrassed him. It's like I
Speaker 1: was like at that point, I was like, I ain't
Speaker 1: playing in fucking New Orleans anymore, dude, Like so like
Speaker 1: to die over a over a hit like that, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hit sticked you into the fucking stands. But like,
Speaker 1: there's no reason to like just come out and shoot.
Speaker 1: Somebody was a child, dude.
Speaker 2: They don't give a fucking New Orleans.
Speaker 7: No, they don't.
Speaker 15: Now, I'll be honest, coaching these kids like that. I've
Speaker 15: been coaching my son's football team past like four years now,
Speaker 15: and the team we were on last year compared to
Speaker 15: this one. At night and day, these kids, you couldn't
Speaker 15: coach them. You can't tell them, hey, you did this wrong,
Speaker 15: let's do it better. They would literally start shaking their
Speaker 15: head and literally looking upset and making fists like they're
Speaker 15: about to swing on me.
Speaker 7: I had to sit back.
Speaker 15: I picked the kids who would listen to me, and
Speaker 15: I coached them as best as I could. But everybody
Speaker 15: cried for the ball.
Speaker 7: Hey man.
Speaker 15: We had parents screaming at us, give my kids the ball,
Speaker 15: give my kids the and man, I I took them
Speaker 15: my kid there because I wanted.
Speaker 7: You need to play with better talent. Let me tell
Speaker 7: you this. We had the smallest team in the league.
Speaker 15: We played against kids where like if I showed you
Speaker 15: pictures of them, and I showed some of my buddies
Speaker 15: at work, their first question.
Speaker 7: Was how many kids does he have?
Speaker 15: And how large is this four O one K that's
Speaker 15: a man your child is playing.
Speaker 7: They were huge. They beat us in.
Speaker 15: The championship by a touchdown. But you know, story for
Speaker 15: another day, big goat. These kids are enormous. They were
Speaker 15: twelve years ten to twelve years old and the kids
Speaker 15: were bigger than the rest.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, that's some real shit. Like parents will literally
Speaker 1: they will raise their kid to try and make them
Speaker 1: as huge and as meaty and just massive as humanly possible,
Speaker 1: especially if like for the low income people like they
Speaker 1: they see their kids as a ticket out of poverty,
Speaker 1: and so they'll just grow them and grow them and
Speaker 1: grow them and just feed them fuckings and pasta and
Speaker 1: pasta and like just try and get him as big
Speaker 1: as humanly possible so that way they have a better
Speaker 1: chance of going to the NFL in that whole route.
Speaker 1: But it's like, dude, some some parents literally look at
Speaker 1: their kids. It's almost like a whole Michael Orr situation
Speaker 1: to the Ball family, same thing, right, It's literally he
Speaker 1: forced them into this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys do sports spiracies. Man.
Speaker 15: I am on top of that with the Jamaturias ship too.
Speaker 15: I just all right, Detroit Pittsburgh super Bowl. Eminem's mom died.
Speaker 15: Those are sacrifice.
Speaker 7: Detroit loses Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl. That's my guess,
Speaker 7: and I swear to it's Kansas City, all.
Speaker 1: Right, mom.
Speaker 2: Mainly have to have you on for more than one episode. Now.
Speaker 2: It sounds like we're just gonna have to have a
Speaker 2: reoccurring thing here.
Speaker 15: You're clearly you're.
Speaker 1: Clearly somebody who thinks with a logical brain in assuming
Speaker 1: that the Steelers are going to win their seven Super
Speaker 1: Bowl championship.
Speaker 7: Of course, yeah, I have not done the numbers behind it.
Speaker 7: That's just a lucky guests right there.
Speaker 15: I just I honestly, I have a whole lay. I
Speaker 15: wrote down a bunch of shit for the Chinese astrology
Speaker 15: of them all. My first guess was kind of off,
Speaker 15: but I think I'm on top of it now that
Speaker 15: if you look at the years all the teams came
Speaker 15: in the league, and then you actually look up Chinese
Speaker 15: astrology behind of them, I'll give you this real quick.
Speaker 7: I'm a Cleveland Browns fan.
Speaker 15: They came, yeah, I know, they came in forty six
Speaker 15: along with the San Francisco forty nine Ers.
Speaker 7: The year the dog.
Speaker 15: It's a dragon year going into a snake year for
Speaker 15: the super Bowl.
Speaker 7: Dog and dragon do not get along.
Speaker 15: That's why your San Francisco forty nine ers star player
Speaker 15: blew out his fucking leg again. And the Cleveland Browns are,
Speaker 15: you know, back to being the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: So shout out to famous Jamis though he's resurrecting that franchise, yeah, the.
Speaker 7: Same way Blacko did. Who be gone next year. But
Speaker 7: it's been fun watching him.
Speaker 15: It's definitely entertaining. I just wish we had the Baker
Speaker 15: and entertaining us. Still it was much better.
Speaker 1: I still will never be able to understand why the
Speaker 1: Browns let Baker Mayfield go. Oh yes, did he start
Speaker 1: to decline and he'd go through a sophomore slump and
Speaker 1: all that, sure, but he was way better of a
Speaker 1: quarterback than you've had over the last forty fucking years.
Speaker 7: All part of the plan. Yeah, they're a Tiger team
Speaker 7: and they're not winning it this year either, along with Seattle.
Speaker 7: Count them out.
Speaker 1: Damn. I love looking into that, Jamontra. I was just
Speaker 1: because you know how every year they usually Jacob, We've
Speaker 1: covered this about how the Super Bowl logo it usually
Speaker 1: has like the colors of the teams that are probably
Speaker 1: going to be in it. Well, I guess they caught
Speaker 1: on this year because the super Bowl logo this year, well.
Speaker 2: Let me guess a rainbow.
Speaker 1: It's red, lime, green, and purple.
Speaker 7: It's not gonna be Seattle, I promise. Tiger year, Tiger
Speaker 7: Dragon enemies. Let's where that at.
Speaker 15: That goes?
Speaker 1: Well, let's look at this logo ray quick, and let's
Speaker 1: see right here. All right, So well this is from
Speaker 1: the Espionation one, so it must be closer to this one.
Speaker 1: But all right, well it is in New Orleans, so
Speaker 1: that's probably like the Marty Gras kind of theme. Looking here, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then down here you got the same thing.
Speaker 2: Oh here we go purple green.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that just Marti Gral colors, though.
Speaker 1: Could be, yeah, that's it very well, could be. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I really the green is what's going off.
Speaker 1: I would look at this if I'm to assume what
Speaker 1: colors we're talking about here whenever you know, kind of uh,
Speaker 1: the perspective on who's going to be playing in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, just by looking at these colors, I would
Speaker 1: assume if it's not the the Seahawks with that color.
Speaker 1: Then it would either be that the Eagles or the
Speaker 1: Packers as the green, and then the purple, which is
Speaker 1: only Baltimore. I think. No, the Vikings are also Vikings too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're playing good, damn not. There's no way by kingso
Speaker 1: anywhere with Sam Darnold, I.
Speaker 7: It's lime green. But I case see Green Bay rematch
Speaker 7: in the first Super Bowl.
Speaker 15: I thought that was actually going to happen the first
Speaker 15: year Kansas City played San Francisco, but it slipped by.
Speaker 15: But I told you guys about the two to two
Speaker 15: two that I always see all the time. It started
Speaker 15: when Kansas City made the Super Bowl and I wanted
Speaker 15: to make a bet on my buddy, who constantly nags
Speaker 15: at me about all the things I look into, especially
Speaker 15: Jimatrio sports.
Speaker 7: He talked shit, So I had to prove them wrong.
Speaker 7: So I went out to make my.
Speaker 15: Pick based on Jamatria. The very first thing I looked
Speaker 15: at was how many wins Andy re haad all time.
Speaker 15: The game was being played on two two, twenty twenty.
Speaker 15: He was that two hundred and twenty.
Speaker 7: One wins all time. If he won that Super Bowl,
Speaker 7: he would have two hundred and twenty two in.
Speaker 15: His second Super Bowl. So I'm oh fucking one hundred
Speaker 15: bucks on the Chiefs. Buddy, he was taking San Francisco.
Speaker 15: He's talking shit the whole night. I won that fat,
Speaker 15: fair and square, and I've been paying Pty two and
Speaker 15: twelve twenty two episodes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick, real quick, I do want to get
Speaker 2: Syntex had his hand raised for a good minute there,
Speaker 2: and I did want to get to but real quick,
Speaker 2: I did want to ask, Okay, real quick, I don't
Speaker 2: know NFL. I don't watch it right. How are the
Speaker 2: uh it used to be the red Skins, but that's
Speaker 2: a horrible thing.
Speaker 7: Is killing it this year? Command Well, they're actually talking
Speaker 7: about they're one of my favorites to make it pretty far.
Speaker 1: They're actually talking about bringing back the Redskins name. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact.
Speaker 2: Well, as I see the golden red on that logo there,
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like, especially because that's such a controversial
Speaker 2: hot topic and we know how the NFL will do this.
Speaker 2: Of course, we know it's scripted, we know that it's entertainment.
Speaker 2: We've done a whole episode about this. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, wouldn't it just be crazy the same way
Speaker 2: that like when we was being legalized in two states.
Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy that those two states were going to
Speaker 2: the super Bowl that year? How interesting? Isn't it crazy
Speaker 2: that New Orleans right around Katriname, we got super.
Speaker 3: Bowl right there?
Speaker 2: And it wouldn't it just be wild that some controversy
Speaker 2: within the NFL, this name fiasco. Would it be crazy
Speaker 2: if that team with this new name was to win
Speaker 2: it all? Is that crazy? I mean playing this year?
Speaker 2: Are they like dog ship? Could they do it? What's up?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 7: The point this year? Yeah, they're really good.
Speaker 1: They've been pretty good. And also they have the quarter
Speaker 1: They have ls u's old quarterback, Jaden Daniels, so he's
Speaker 1: been playing really well here lately. I mean he had
Speaker 1: a phenomenal year at LSU last year too.
Speaker 2: But could that be the Purple.
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 1: Couldn't be going back to the college teams?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, yeah, it's always deeper.
Speaker 15: They always layer this ship and they always want you
Speaker 15: to dig for the information, man.
Speaker 7: I tell you, Like last year they started to change
Speaker 7: the whole logo.
Speaker 15: Everybody was catching on to it, so they took they
Speaker 15: brought out a logo and then later on they switched
Speaker 15: it to just red and blue logo and then they
Speaker 15: brought the old one backs.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're they're fucking.
Speaker 2: I see your hands.
Speaker 7: Washington's a good pick. I think it's gonna it's.
Speaker 13: Got to be the Chiefs because they want that three
Speaker 13: in a row that's never happened, and it's gonna be.
Speaker 7: The Chiefs easy.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I would love to say that my
Speaker 1: Steelers are going, and I do think that they have
Speaker 1: a pretty good shot. But if if we're falling in
Speaker 1: line with sports are absolutely rigged and they're trying to make,
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest splash to get as many eyes
Speaker 1: on it as humanly possible, and also looking at those
Speaker 1: those colors there, I would say that it's probably most
Speaker 1: likely if I had to guess the Chiefs versus the
Speaker 1: Eagles in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Damn.
Speaker 1: Personally, I think that makes a lot of sense. But anyway, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Sam's hand is raised, but Sinex had it
Speaker 2: raised earlier and they both put it down. But Sentex,
Speaker 2: what was your hand raised about earlier, sir.
Speaker 17: F I was just gonna say that I lived for
Speaker 17: hood and I believe everyone needs to carry all the
Speaker 17: time because you can't go a day without gunhot around here,
Speaker 17: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick, you're Fort Hood currently? You know, are
Speaker 2: they still finding women's bodies all over the place?
Speaker 5: No, but dude, it's sketchy out here for sure.
Speaker 3: And knowing what ship anymore?
Speaker 17: No, like the whole Yeah no, I mean it just
Speaker 17: gets swept under the rug all the time. They just
Speaker 17: changed the name of the base. Now it's just forts Now.
Speaker 17: It's no longer fort Hood.
Speaker 2: It's for Cabazos. Yeah, like, okay, well, is the guy
Speaker 2: it's named after like actually a gangster or some shit.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I can't say nothing about that.
Speaker 17: But they say that, you know, general Hood was racist,
Speaker 17: so they changed the name.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, just like Fort Bragg. Now it's Fort Liberty,
Speaker 2: which is the most basic ass name. Like there's so
Speaker 2: many cool dudes to name shit after, but like sure,
Speaker 2: Fort Liberty but whatever. Anyway, so all right fort Hood there.
Speaker 2: I remember for a while it was like not just women,
Speaker 2: actually they were they were.
Speaker 17: Finding people, dude, I mean, you had like a dude
Speaker 17: dudes end up dead, like you know, sometimes it's private.
Speaker 17: Sometimes it's corporals, you know, random ass dudes just dead
Speaker 17: in their front yard. Sometimes it's their wives, random ship.
Speaker 17: But it's always the weirdest circumstances, you know.
Speaker 2: And there was like you.
Speaker 17: And then nothing, and then like four years ago, like
Speaker 17: something like seven million dollars with the RPG's got confiscated
Speaker 17: from a whole bunch of dudes that were some of
Speaker 17: them to gangsters around here and ship like that.
Speaker 5: You know. So it's like that.
Speaker 17: You know, it's a town of eighty thousand people, you know,
Speaker 17: and it's it's pretty rough here, you know. You know,
Speaker 17: like kids, my kids. I have three kids, you know,
Speaker 17: the oldest fourteen. You know, he constantly and fights in school.
Speaker 17: His friends are constantly and fights in school.
Speaker 5: You know, it's tough.
Speaker 2: You know he was he in the local school or
Speaker 2: is he in the military like on base school?
Speaker 5: You know, we're in the local schools. We're not on base.
Speaker 5: I'm not military. I'm just live here.
Speaker 2: Oh I got you, okay, okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah damn dude. Yeah yeah. It's pretty rough though, dude.
Speaker 17: Like, and you know, being on base, they got access
Speaker 17: to some crazy shit that they might not ad access to.
Speaker 17: I you know, I've seen night vision goggles and dudes
Speaker 17: houses and some crazy stuff and you're like, who, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: To be fair, I want for myself.
Speaker 17: Hey, hey, I got a night vision scope on a
Speaker 17: rifle sitting right in front of me right now. You know,
Speaker 17: you know, like you know, that's you know, that's not
Speaker 17: even the thing. It's just the type of individual that
Speaker 17: has it is then what it sketches me out about it.
Speaker 17: You know, that's not necessarily the the having of the
Speaker 17: night vision you know. Yeah, but I was going to
Speaker 17: say earlier. It's like I I daily alot forty eight x.
Speaker 5: And you know, I every day. I don't go anywhere
Speaker 5: with that rde my motorcycle with it everything.
Speaker 2: You know, my ec is this little stumbnosed thirty eight.
Speaker 2: But there's a reason for that. A It's called my
Speaker 2: pimp cannon. The little black pearl handle, gold engraved, and shit,
Speaker 2: it's so stupid, it's so stupid. There's no reason for
Speaker 2: me to ever use this. And that's kind of the point,
Speaker 2: right I am the type of person that wants to
Speaker 2: de escalate it to every every extent. And I'm also
Speaker 2: the guy that is going to use my hands long
Speaker 2: But like, I forget that that's on me ninety percent
Speaker 2: of the time and I do wear it at all times.
Speaker 2: But like, if I have to use that. That means
Speaker 2: that my actual life is in jeopardy and this person
Speaker 2: is close enough for me to put hands on because
Speaker 2: it's a snubnose thirty eight. You're not going for any
Speaker 2: distance shot whatsoever with this With.
Speaker 17: Me, you know, I work in Austin and I drive
Speaker 17: all the way back and forth between the two all
Speaker 17: the time. So with me, it's more like I'm not
Speaker 17: really worried about that so much as it's like, we
Speaker 17: just if it's me or my kids, you know, if
Speaker 17: it comes down to my kids, that's when it really
Speaker 17: comes out. I'm not really worried about myself so much.
Speaker 17: Everything I have is replaceable within reason. I'm replaceable, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 17: I break an arm, I get dad, hopefully I survive it.
Speaker 17: You know, I'm not trying to kill somebody over that.
Speaker 17: You know, when it comes to my wife and kid,
Speaker 17: that's when it comes.
Speaker 5: Down, it's like, yeah, that's what it's gonna happen, you know.
Speaker 2: No, no, one hundred percent agree. I don't believe that
Speaker 2: pulling a weapon should even a knife, Like, if you're
Speaker 2: doing that, it should be because your actual life is
Speaker 2: in jeopardy. And if that is in fact, the case,
Speaker 2: that means that all other manners of de escalating the
Speaker 2: situation have gone out the window. Words are out the window.
Speaker 2: It is now a matter of one of us is
Speaker 2: not walking away from this, and at that point there
Speaker 2: is no rules, they're nothing whatsoever. I don't speak that
Speaker 2: language until one of us stops moving. But that's just me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I understand, I understand.
Speaker 2: My man, Samuel, your hand was raised, Yes, sir, I.
Speaker 4: Was gonna say, if you go back to the you know,
Speaker 4: Super Bowl colors, account of is reminiscent of Vice City,
Speaker 4: and that's gonna be the new setting of the new
Speaker 4: GCA six that they just dropped the trailers for. So
Speaker 4: that's that could also be a connection. Uh, but that's
Speaker 4: why I.
Speaker 15: Go with it.
Speaker 4: But then again, I'm a gamer.
Speaker 2: But I added that to be honest, I'm going back to.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I have my great grandfather's uh, and it
Speaker 4: was his that's been passed down through the family. I
Speaker 4: have eighteen ninety eight Alabama Damascus Snowbell shotgunner likes.
Speaker 2: That's been dope.
Speaker 4: It survived three house fires and the flood of ninety four.
Speaker 2: Damn, but alone it sounds legendary as fuck. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: it's kind.
Speaker 4: Of broked because my uh, my dumbass uncle, uh put
Speaker 4: modern shells in it and fired it.
Speaker 2: Oh fun, Yeah, so that's great. But the the.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so it's over two hundred years old, I
Speaker 4: want to say, because eighteen ninety no to.
Speaker 2: Oba one hundred.
Speaker 4: But yeah no, So if shit ever hits fan, I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna take the bail. I'll be like nigging, I'm
Speaker 4: swinging that to take zombie's heads off.
Speaker 2: I like where your head's at, Samuel, I do, And
Speaker 2: I am sorry that that weapon doesn't fire anymore. Your
Speaker 2: uncle fired over pressured rounds into metal that wasn't rated
Speaker 2: for that type of pressure, and that really sucks. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The mask up thing is, I know, I know how
Speaker 4: to make the ammunition that it's would have been able
Speaker 4: to fire, but it split all the way down through
Speaker 4: the actual bail itself and it puts.
Speaker 2: So now it's an antique and a conversation piece, but damn,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: To hear it.
Speaker 4: Jill has weight to it, so it could be a
Speaker 4: melee weapon.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 15: Yo.
Speaker 2: You could like fill the barrel full of cement and
Speaker 2: like just make it look like obviously d milled and
Speaker 2: use like a shell a lee, just like use like
Speaker 2: a walking stick.
Speaker 4: I'm just sat my cousins of Blacksmith. I thought about
Speaker 4: getting it melt getting it melted down, but keep it
Speaker 4: about the width of it and have it made into
Speaker 4: a mace.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, since it's a Damascus shotgun, might
Speaker 2: I suggest that he does some sort of Damascus pattern.
Speaker 3: With whatever you do with it? Just a friendly thought.
Speaker 4: I'm I want mace because I want to use it
Speaker 4: for when I get into the combat. Deal on the combat.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, oh shit, are you talking about actually getting
Speaker 2: into booheard dude?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Okay, well, look at that's the case.
Speaker 2: The mace you're talking about. It looks like a metal
Speaker 2: hockey puck. It's actually not difficult and that might be
Speaker 2: enough steal to make it happen, So that could be cool. Secondly, Samuel,
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk offline about things and stuff. I will
Speaker 2: warn you now it's an expensive sport to jump into,
Speaker 2: so like, slowly build your kit, big dog, don't just
Speaker 2: buy shit.
Speaker 4: That's the plan. Actually, I'm storty. I just got all
Speaker 4: the supplies. I'm gonna make me another chain mail. I
Speaker 4: did have an actual, inclusating a helm at one point
Speaker 4: while I got in the Marine corps. Well, I sent
Speaker 4: it home and my dad's house gap bokt too.
Speaker 2: So so wait, wait, So don't use much chain mail
Speaker 2: because we're not allowed to use it in the sport.
Speaker 2: The only place where it's allowed is the neck connecting
Speaker 2: the helmet to the down to the neck piece. Other
Speaker 2: than that, you can't use it anywhere else on the kit.
Speaker 2: Reason being, once you hit chain mail enough times with
Speaker 2: a sword, it will actually develop an edge. It will
Speaker 2: like actually develop some jagged edge to it, so we
Speaker 2: can't use it.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna do it underneath the actual still plating.
Speaker 2: You can't, but I would highly recommend you don't because
Speaker 2: that adds weight and you're gonna learn if you get
Speaker 2: into Boo hurt. My kit weighs eighty pounds a male
Speaker 2: shirt underneath that would be an additional thirty and fuck
Speaker 2: that with the worst dick, big dog. I'm telling you
Speaker 2: this out of love. But then the helmet also, it
Speaker 2: has to be a certain thickness and a certain hardness.
Speaker 2: It has to be tempered. So okay, me and you
Speaker 2: will talk offline about all the things and the stuff
Speaker 2: I'm fucking stoked. Army of Zeno. You you anime we've
Speaker 2: I didn't realize what your background was, but what's happening
Speaker 2: with your big dog?
Speaker 8: I'm not actually not really a wea, but my son
Speaker 8: got me into watching some stuff, so hell yeah, I
Speaker 8: watched suff occasionally. Actually, I wanted to go back to
Speaker 8: the fur Hood conversation, the fact that something did actually
Speaker 8: come out of that. If you remember the story of
Speaker 8: Vanessa Giah, Yeah, yeah, So her family went all the
Speaker 8: way to Congress and pushed and pushed and pushed, and
Speaker 8: it took them like two or three visits to Congress
Speaker 8: and just campaigning, and eventually that's all I heard. Yeah, no,
Speaker 8: they there were some rules changed in the middle in
Speaker 8: the army specifically. I can't speak across the whole military,
Speaker 8: but in the army specifically, there was some rules that
Speaker 8: were changed that came from her case.
Speaker 2: Like what kind of rules though? Do we know? Like
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 8: So basically, when it came to investigations into like EO
Speaker 8: and rate and things like that, uh it oh, I
Speaker 8: said to our word, I hope that's okay, but we.
Speaker 2: Are right podcast, we're not on YouTube.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so.
Speaker 8: Investigations were at the at the commander's discretion. Yeah, so basically,
Speaker 8: and in her case specifically, she had actually gone to
Speaker 8: her commander saying, hey, this guy is bothering me saying
Speaker 8: and nothing was ever done of it. So basically one
Speaker 8: of the rules is now for those situations, it is
Speaker 8: no longer in the direct commander's hands. It is now
Speaker 8: put to an investigator from outside of the unit.
Speaker 2: Oh that's fucking excellent, now, I mean that still doesn't
Speaker 2: fix the problem one hundred percent, because the investigative community
Speaker 2: is a small community as even within the military branches.
Speaker 2: And I mean, hell, you could even say like in uh,
Speaker 2: you know, co op jag type situations, like everybody knows
Speaker 2: everybody in that field. But at least that's a start
Speaker 2: in the right direction. That's good shit to where it's
Speaker 2: not like in house sweeping shit under the rug, buddy,
Speaker 2: buddy shit, right.
Speaker 8: And that was exactly the reason why is because over
Speaker 8: the history it's crew out the entire military. Too many
Speaker 8: times it's been swept under the rug.
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, one hundred percent is the old boys club.
Speaker 2: And like, especially when you get to the upper echelon
Speaker 2: of like legal matters, we're talking like full on law
Speaker 2: firms that are totally integral to the UCUMJ and they
Speaker 2: are like a mafia in and of themselves, and like
Speaker 2: how that could all work out? So oh one hundred percent, bro,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that anything came of that. All I
Speaker 2: heard was that her family was pushing for more answers
Speaker 2: and more to be done, and then the media just
Speaker 2: stopped talking about it, and like all the even the
Speaker 2: military content creators didn't say anything else about it. It
Speaker 2: just kind of fizzled. I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 8: I did just look at an article briefly that the girl,
Speaker 8: the other girl that was stating the guy that killed her,
Speaker 8: she was sentenced to thirty years really yeah, wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so shit is moving at least in some direction.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, Syntex, are you what's your take on this?
Speaker 17: It was just shocking to me that he managed to
Speaker 17: get her out in like an oversized Pelican case into
Speaker 17: his trunk when they worked in the armory, you know,
Speaker 17: like being in the military. I was never in the military,
Speaker 17: so I don't know this. Maybe you can say something
Speaker 17: different about this, but it seems like the armory would
Speaker 17: be one of the higher security places that you couldn't
Speaker 17: get anything out of without anybody raising an eyebrow, you
Speaker 17: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yes and no, uh so, yes, there are cameras at
Speaker 2: like all points on.
Speaker 3: Yeah we saw that, we saw that, you know, right,
Speaker 3: But to say that.
Speaker 2: An armorer was taking a thing out in a case
Speaker 2: and like that wouldn't raise suspicion on camera, that doesn't
Speaker 2: sound crazy to me, especially if like you could see
Speaker 2: the number of the crate and he like had a
Speaker 2: shipping log to move this crate from Bapa Bah, but
Speaker 2: like it didn't actually hold what it said. It hit
Speaker 2: like I could see that being plausible, but also yeah,
Speaker 2: like there's there would be suspicion of like, okay, we're
Speaker 2: trying to be doing this thing that wasn't on the
Speaker 2: schedule with a like what the fuck, and like yeah,
Speaker 2: all the red flags would be raised. But then then
Speaker 2: we get into that other side of thing of the
Speaker 2: old boys club, where not only is it covering for
Speaker 2: shitheads when they do shithead things, but it's covering for
Speaker 2: incompetence where you realize that this could be a career
Speaker 2: in being incompetent thing where it's like, oh shit, you
Speaker 2: knew that this was happening and you did nothing to
Speaker 2: stop it. You you know, you let it go. Oh
Speaker 2: wait a minute, there are cameras, but they're not working.
Speaker 2: And you knew this for two years and you say
Speaker 2: you put in a request to have it fixed. But
Speaker 2: you know how it is blah blah blah, like, Yo,
Speaker 2: this that's not good. Holy fuck, a girl's dead and
Speaker 2: that like there could be multiple angles to how there's
Speaker 2: more to the story on how the cameras could have
Speaker 2: been altered.
Speaker 3: This could have been that could have been there too.
Speaker 8: Oh, I'd like to add to this real quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
Speaker 8: You might already know this, Jacob and Euaisian as well,
Speaker 8: since you all were both in the military. If you
Speaker 8: live in the barracks and you own private weapons, you
Speaker 8: have to store them in your unit's arms room, which
Speaker 8: means that he could have easily wrote it off as
Speaker 8: him picking out his private weapon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well said.
Speaker 17: And another thing, especially on this base, it's like the
Speaker 17: lack of security and it's only if you're trying to
Speaker 17: get on the inside of Fort Hood Bozos.
Speaker 5: Now that is it really stringent.
Speaker 17: I can get anywhere on my dirtbike. I hunt on
Speaker 17: base legally. You know, I've gone through all the steps
Speaker 17: to be able to hunt on base. And I can
Speaker 17: get anywhere on base without even the eyebrow rais.
Speaker 5: And I'm a civilian, you know.
Speaker 2: I gotta say it was people like you that we
Speaker 2: fucking hated when we would go on ranges and like
Speaker 2: land nav courses and then out of nowhere, Hey, y'all wait, stop, halt,
Speaker 2: Like what's up? Hunters are in the woods in the area.
Speaker 2: We gotta change course, uh for this training purpose. Uh
Speaker 2: the outpost we were going to has been overraned. We
Speaker 2: have to shift course to this uh land nav spot
Speaker 2: or be like these fucking hunters cannot stay off of
Speaker 2: the base. And it was it was like not often,
Speaker 2: but when it fucking happened.
Speaker 5: I swear to good dude, it's like me and like
Speaker 5: maybe tend dudes they hunt on base, but like we
Speaker 5: know each other pretty well. But like, yeah, no, trust me.
Speaker 5: I know I have families that's based here and everything. Dude,
Speaker 5: they all laugh at us.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what it is, all right, you
Speaker 2: know what the fuck it is. It's like those old
Speaker 2: cats that retire that decide to still get up at
Speaker 2: three point thirty in the morning and drive their old
Speaker 2: route to work. But now they're going ten under the
Speaker 2: goddamn speed limit, and they're doing it because fuck you,
Speaker 2: that's why. And they make a whole sport of it.
Speaker 2: And then they go meet up at the gas station
Speaker 2: for biscuits and coffee afterwards, when everybody's already cocked in.
Speaker 2: But they made every fucking body late.
Speaker 3: It's those people, right.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I apologize.
Speaker 2: No, I'm mad at you though, because in all honesty,
Speaker 2: if I live by a base, yo, the best hunting
Speaker 2: would be at the giant wilderness, place that can't be
Speaker 2: touched by anybody. I can't get mad at you too deep.
Speaker 5: Forty four thousand and eight for me to hunt on.
Speaker 17: I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm an hunt it dude. Seventy dollars
Speaker 17: a year, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you'd be a fool not to so, in
Speaker 2: all honesty, it's out of fun that I go on
Speaker 2: the ramts.
Speaker 5: I promise, No, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 17: I laugh at myself with my buddies that are on base.
Speaker 17: Oh that's all I had to say, though, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, Samuel, Samuel or hands raising.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, going back to the base. I've walked for
Speaker 4: a walking party. I've been to the general's base. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've been to the general's house. I've worked in the
Speaker 4: arme a couple of times.
Speaker 7: To get into the.
Speaker 4: Armory, they do a man to take a metal detecting
Speaker 4: one thing. They scan your body, they do a pat
Speaker 4: down everything. I cannot tell you how many times they
Speaker 4: I had had my fajon's first going into that armory.
Speaker 5: I just don't.
Speaker 4: I guess it's just because the Marions are meticulous like that.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 4: I just don't see how the he's gonna forget where
Speaker 4: the fuck the rifles are and how a woman dies
Speaker 4: on base calling me shocked.
Speaker 2: But what the hell? Sam, I love you, but real quick, dog,
Speaker 2: I've been padded down many a times while wearing camis
Speaker 2: that had the pockets and all this stuff. I have
Speaker 2: never had my balls fondled while getting padded down going
Speaker 2: into out of an armory. Samuel, I'm just I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that you were molested, but I'm saying that it's
Speaker 2: very possible that the guy in charge of you got
Speaker 2: a little extra handsy just because that was his way
Speaker 2: of like asserting dominance. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And that being said, we want you to know that
Speaker 1: we're here for you. If you ever really need to
Speaker 1: talk about it. This is a therapy session. Please get
Speaker 1: it off your chest.
Speaker 4: Uh No, that didn't happen that time. But they got
Speaker 4: up into the creaset. But I don't want to talk
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 3: They're not supposed to do that either.
Speaker 2: Holy oh my god, Sam, I love you, Sam.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, it was not there at that day.
Speaker 2: I can't tell how much of your stories are bullshit
Speaker 2: and how much of them are true. Sam, And I
Speaker 2: kind of like the fact that there's a weird sideways
Speaker 2: question mark at the end of it.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't if I bullshit, it's you'll be
Speaker 4: able to tell. But no, like I legitimate, they got
Speaker 4: fondled and I felt very It made my skin claw.
Speaker 4: I never I told them I'm never stepping footing in
Speaker 4: that that place again.
Speaker 1: I told my.
Speaker 2: All jokes aside, this was the real thing that happened
Speaker 2: to you. To go into the armory. Yeah, we where basic.
Speaker 4: Uh No, I was already graduated, but it was on
Speaker 4: p I. I had to give out rifles, clean rifles,
Speaker 4: do fucking inventory, and the dumbasses at random fucking the
Speaker 4: arm way. They they couldn't fucking tell blinker fluid from
Speaker 4: fucking cooking oil.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hold on, wait, wait, wait wait, I'm with
Speaker 2: you here, But was there a string of suicides that
Speaker 2: had happened recently in the in the area or on
Speaker 2: the local base or anything like that. And I'm not
Speaker 2: this is the joke's over, honestly, I'm just asking.
Speaker 4: Two days about two days before that happened a kid,
Speaker 4: I say kid, but obviously it's an eighteen year old
Speaker 4: or whatever. They were in STC so they were in
Speaker 4: an mr PFRB. They took a head off of the balcony.
Speaker 3: And okay, that might be the reason.
Speaker 2: Whenever a suicide happens on base, they will up certain
Speaker 2: security measures, especially for like AMMO and shit, so to
Speaker 2: make sure that you're not like sneaking out around or something,
Speaker 2: to check everywhere.
Speaker 3: I could understand. But even that's that's a bit far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, it's funny you said that sneaking around.
Speaker 4: Uh in my actual squad bay in the boot there
Speaker 4: was a straight round found in the squad bay.
Speaker 2: Right, And that's a real thing that happens, and that
Speaker 2: kid could have taken that one straight round to the
Speaker 2: bathroom in the middle of the night, and that would
Speaker 2: like so if that was a thing, I could understand
Speaker 2: the extra level of security. But like, and I mean
Speaker 2: at boot camp. I was gonna say, if you get
Speaker 2: fondled like that, like on the range, like on shooting
Speaker 2: week or whatever, like before you go back to the
Speaker 2: squad bay, they patch you the actual fuck down because
Speaker 2: you know, I get it, But like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't go back. I said, fuck that. I'll
Speaker 4: just stay back at the squad bay. I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: cut grass all day.
Speaker 2: Do you get a disability rating from the VA?
Speaker 17: I get all.
Speaker 7: I'm seventy percent yo.
Speaker 2: I would actually highly recommend you look at going to
Speaker 2: a CST therapy and possibly see about getting a rating
Speaker 2: for this as well.
Speaker 4: I'd rather not.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be with that. No, I get it.
Speaker 2: Once again, Sam, you and I will talk offline. Love
Speaker 2: you with all my heart brother you now? Okay? Wow?
Speaker 1: Damn all right? Well, in other news, there is an
Speaker 1: article that I recently found, or it's actually a video.
Speaker 1: Did you hear about the the new police robot that
Speaker 1: is over in China?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm?
Speaker 1: Dare I show you a video of it?
Speaker 2: Sir, please do, please do, sir, Here you go, it.
Speaker 1: Says, China has revealed a spherical police robot designed to
Speaker 1: autonomously pursue and immobilize criminals by shooting nets and rolling
Speaker 1: at speeds of up to thirty five kilometers per hour.
Speaker 2: Inspector, gadget. No, No, it's also attack Wally, and it's
Speaker 2: also amphibious as well.
Speaker 3: An amphibious attack.
Speaker 2: Wally, dude.
Speaker 1: Look how I mean it's pretty sick looking actually, but
Speaker 1: imagine getting taken down while one of these fucking things.
Speaker 2: Bro, and you know that thing can take the fuck off.
Speaker 2: That's a little electric engine. That torque has got nothing
Speaker 2: holding it back because it's a little ball. So it's
Speaker 2: gonna come at you at mock fuck and it's gonna
Speaker 2: just shoot a net at your feet or a fucking
Speaker 2: like a bowlander or whatever it's called, like the fucking
Speaker 2: Aussies do, and it's just gonna like wrap you up
Speaker 2: for like, you know, let's say, because they do social
Speaker 2: credit score in China. So like let's say you're trying
Speaker 2: to make a purchase and you get denied and you
Speaker 2: like get a little frustrated, have altercation, and this little
Speaker 2: robot comes and just attacks your ankles. This shit here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is crazy looking, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm wondering how much AI is just thrown into
Speaker 2: that thing too.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's fun. It has to be full on AI.
Speaker 2: Bro like.
Speaker 1: Of course they're gonna be. Yeah, of course they're going
Speaker 1: to be like bringing AI into their governance because they're
Speaker 1: they're really is the main like person that we're worried about,
Speaker 1: especially over the United States, as as far as the
Speaker 1: fear of them creating the most powerful AI out there,
Speaker 1: because then what would happen is is that China then
Speaker 1: would be able to sell their system to all the
Speaker 1: other countries around the world, which would of course include communism.
Speaker 1: And and that's really the scare behind it is that,
Speaker 1: you know, communism could become a global thing if China
Speaker 1: creates the most powerful AI. And whenever I heard that,
Speaker 1: I thought that it seemed a little bit far fetched.
Speaker 1: But to be honest, I mean, you're talking about China
Speaker 1: creating an AI. Obviously they're going to write in code
Speaker 1: that best benefits them and their country and what they're
Speaker 1: trying to create, right, and so what.
Speaker 2: Their TikTok looks like as opposed to our TikTok.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I find a lot of value in our TikTok personally,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you can go down some Really, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that over in China you're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to search for I don't know, some weird TikTok shit
Speaker 1: or some weird Reddit shit that you'd find on TikTok.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's probably limitations on that.
Speaker 2: No, they only allow uplifting pro China shit. And I
Speaker 2: don't mean just like political propaganda, but like stuff with
Speaker 2: educational background or like somebody excelling in rockets heering or
Speaker 2: excelling in math, or this good project happening. It's only
Speaker 2: like good, positive motivating shit that's allowed on Chinese TikTok.
Speaker 2: Like I wish American TikTok was geared towards pro America
Speaker 2: or just pro human things instead of whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: this thing is. But yeah, China builds the algorithm to
Speaker 2: make American TikTok make American brains do certain things, and
Speaker 2: it makes the Chinese brains more, uh, you know, active
Speaker 2: and quick witted and wanting to do pro China shit.
Speaker 1: Well you know Google's AI. I asked, is China's TikTok
Speaker 1: different than the US's which we already knew, but I
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to see what they said. It says yes.
Speaker 1: China's version of TikTok is called do You in d
Speaker 1: O U y i n. It's different from the TikTok
Speaker 1: used in the US, primarily due to significantly stricter content
Speaker 1: moderation in China, including automatic beauty filters that are are
Speaker 1: that are applied to users, and a more heavily censored
Speaker 1: selection of videos allowed on the platform. Essentially, the Chinese
Speaker 1: version is more heavily regulated to align with the country's standards,
Speaker 1: while the international version has less stringent content controls, which
Speaker 1: is kind of what I suspected. It's not necessarily that
Speaker 1: it's always going to be uplifting. It's just that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of shit that we watch over here that
Speaker 1: would be prohibited over there.
Speaker 3: Google Ai is not the answer to all things.
Speaker 2: I highly recommend you go and check out what Chinese
Speaker 2: TikTok looks like, scroll through it and like look at
Speaker 2: translations and shit. It's and I'm not anti Chinese TikTok again,
Speaker 2: it's it's good shit. It's making the kids that are
Speaker 2: getting on the Chinese TikTok want to do good shit
Speaker 2: and want to do better in school and want to acce,
Speaker 2: so like it's great. I want America to have a
Speaker 2: social media that's like thriving with cool content creators doing
Speaker 2: cool shit that like uplifts American kids and the American people.
Speaker 2: I genuinely want this.
Speaker 1: Bro, When the hell did you have access to China's TikTok?
Speaker 2: I didn't like make an account there. How do you
Speaker 2: know of it?
Speaker 8: Then?
Speaker 2: Fine, you could find all kinds of things out there, Bro,
Speaker 2: how do we find any of our information? You and I?
Speaker 3: There are sources.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying once again, who knows what those sources
Speaker 2: were finding from? And all these things? Yeah, But like
Speaker 2: the same way that Google AI believes that Brandon Herrera
Speaker 2: a content career that I.
Speaker 3: Like, Google AI believes that he is a two time.
Speaker 2: Medal of Honor recipient, was a Marine Force recon guy,
Speaker 2: all these things. Because they have said it so many
Speaker 2: times in their podcast as a joke that Google AI
Speaker 2: has now accepted it to be fact.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. It's not it's Ai. You just
Speaker 3: asked AI.
Speaker 1: About Well, let's check out a reddit. Somebody said, I
Speaker 1: decided to check out the Chinese version of TikTok. It's
Speaker 1: not what I expected, it says. I had the idea
Speaker 1: to check out Duian, which is China TikTok, to see
Speaker 1: how it differed from American TikTok I heard. I had
Speaker 1: heard China cracks down on its version of the app,
Speaker 1: making educational videos appear in suppressing subversive content. That really
Speaker 1: was not the case from what I saw, though. While
Speaker 1: I saw some cool stuff like cooking and video game content,
Speaker 1: I was quickly served up some creepy videos, including animal
Speaker 1: abuse and some sexual content. So what's the deal? Is
Speaker 1: the American notion that Duian is engineered to make Chinese
Speaker 1: people great citizens totally false? What reputation does Duian have?
Speaker 1: I'm curious about the perspective of an American who knows
Speaker 1: little about what's going on in Chinese social media, So
Speaker 1: I guess that was taken out of context.
Speaker 2: Even hold on by the animal abuse, do they mean
Speaker 2: the Festival of the Dogs where they like rip the
Speaker 2: skin off of still living dogs and then cook them
Speaker 2: and eat them or like what. I don't know what
Speaker 2: the context of what this person saw was. And also
Speaker 2: some sexual references like We do know that the Chinese
Speaker 2: government is pumping out propaganda to try to make people
Speaker 2: have more babies because they understand what they're what kind
Speaker 2: of numbers game they're facing in the next twenty years.
Speaker 2: So is it crazy that they would be pumping out
Speaker 2: sexual things to get people horny, to get them to
Speaker 2: try to make more kids. I think that's kind of
Speaker 2: in line. But again, that's a redditor, and I don't
Speaker 2: know how credible that redditor is. We have no clue.
Speaker 1: Well, let's check out ABC News then, and they this
Speaker 1: was actually an article that was published published back in
Speaker 1: March of this year, and it says, is TikTok different
Speaker 1: in China? Here's what to know. The push in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C For a potential TikTok ban has drawn mounting
Speaker 1: scrutiny toward the app over data privacy risk tied to
Speaker 1: Chinese own parent company Byte Dance, and making their case.
Speaker 1: Some critics point to an allegedly tamer version of the
Speaker 1: app in China, suggesting that byte Dance unleashed a more
Speaker 1: potent product in the US to hook consumers and vacuum
Speaker 1: up their data. Experts who spoke to ABC News, however,
Speaker 1: downplayed the content related differences between TikTok and its Chinese counterpart,
Speaker 1: do Youan, saying the distinctions largely owe to stiff regulations
Speaker 1: in China centered on youth social media use and political dissent.
Speaker 1: The difference is between the two apps highlight a comparatively
Speaker 1: permissive legal environment for social media in the US, protecting
Speaker 1: free expression but also leaving some users, especially young ones,
Speaker 1: vulnerable to addictive behavior, The experts said. TikTok did not
Speaker 1: immediately respond to ABC News's request for comment. In response
Speaker 1: to a previous request, TikTok condemned the push for a
Speaker 1: possible US ban as an infringement on the right to
Speaker 1: express oneself freely.
Speaker 2: So, yes, I guess it would be against the TikTok
Speaker 2: ban in America. Shocker.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing that I'm trying to say here is
Speaker 1: that typically, you know, you're going to have two extremes
Speaker 1: of the same exact story. The one extreme from China
Speaker 1: is like, look, we're just trying to, you know, give
Speaker 1: you guys a social media platform in which you can
Speaker 1: take up whatever kind of content do you want. You
Speaker 1: have America, that is against a Chinese social media app.
Speaker 1: That would be that is now saying, well, we don't
Speaker 1: want that because we know that you got you you
Speaker 1: give your country a lot better content, and over here
Speaker 1: you're just giving us the bullshit to get us more
Speaker 1: hooked and everything. And so those are the two arguments,
Speaker 1: but the idea, but as far as like extremism goes,
Speaker 1: like those are extremist views whenever you're trying to battle
Speaker 1: up against each other. There I'm not saying extremists like
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and AOC. I mean like the extremes of
Speaker 1: the conversation. And that's typically how these battles are really fought.
Speaker 1: But most of the time there isn't one you know,
Speaker 1: how it is, dude, Like, there's always three sides of
Speaker 1: a story. His story, his story, your story, and the
Speaker 1: truth right, and and it's not always is and it's
Speaker 1: not always one of the extreme cases is the answer.
Speaker 1: And so that was really my point in saying that,
Speaker 1: just because you have people on the American side that
Speaker 1: want to ban TikTok because of Chinese you know, infiltration
Speaker 1: or whatever, they're going.
Speaker 2: To say, the fact that we know it's owned by
Speaker 2: the CCP and people not you. I'm talking about like
Speaker 2: a lot of people like defend it this hard tells
Speaker 2: me that the conspiracy is correct. The American people are hooked.
Speaker 2: They're not like, they don't just like it, They're addicted
Speaker 2: to it so much so that they know who it's
Speaker 2: owned by, and they're still fighting for it.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a successful.
Speaker 2: Campaign to me.
Speaker 1: My point, as far as TikTok has always been, that's
Speaker 1: where I find a lot of what we talk about
Speaker 1: on here because because typically compared to American social media's
Speaker 1: it is less stringent on what can be least, and
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be less governed. And so if you
Speaker 1: think about it, yes, China is doing to their country
Speaker 1: country with their app, what our country, who owns Facebook
Speaker 1: and Instagram and all that shit, is doing to us.
Speaker 1: There's limited content. China is limiting their content on their app.
Speaker 1: But whenever they are trying to give an app over here,
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows what they're doing with the data.
Speaker 1: I don't trust anybody that collects data personally, But whenever
Speaker 1: they're trying to bring it over here, they're just like, well, look,
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't give a fuck what's monitored over there, right,
Speaker 1: And so it's a battle. It's a battle. It's a
Speaker 1: battle for like who can who can restrict who? It's
Speaker 1: all about restrictions and America can't tell China what they
Speaker 1: can restrict on their app and that's really what it's about.
Speaker 2: I respectfully disagree, and I I also don't go to
Speaker 2: social media for my for my research. Typically I go
Speaker 2: to other sources. Sometimes YouTube is where I get like
Speaker 2: the spark of the kernel of truth. I get that,
Speaker 2: but I mean I don't see that would be like
Speaker 2: saying I go to Instagram for my sources, Like no,
Speaker 2: absolutely not. Now is there cool shit that's posted on
Speaker 2: Instagram that bring up things and like people are talking
Speaker 2: like fuck, yeah, absolutely there's cool tiktoks. I've brought up that,
Speaker 2: like talk about stuff that we are bringing up in
Speaker 2: conversation and it's cool.
Speaker 1: But like, no, no, I'm not saying that I go
Speaker 1: to TikTok for source. I'm just saying I go there
Speaker 1: mainly for inspiration or ideas.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no doubt, no doubt, I feel this.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's that's my whole point. But I
Speaker 1: did just want to give a little shout out completely
Speaker 1: opposite of what we're talking about here.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: I just well, me and Luisa, we just made one
Speaker 1: hundred and two hours completely vague free, sir, Damn. Now
Speaker 1: at it doesn't necessarily mean nicotine free because I'm chewing
Speaker 1: nicotine gum and I have a nicotine patch. I'm doubled
Speaker 1: up all day over here.
Speaker 3: But how many patches you got on right now?
Speaker 1: Just one? I took off one from earlier. I'm on
Speaker 1: my like ninth piece of nicotine gum right now, But
Speaker 1: I haven't taken a hit of vape, and I actually
Speaker 1: haven't taken a hit of anything because we've been eating
Speaker 1: the weed gummies.
Speaker 2: There you go. Eat is a decent supplement for most
Speaker 2: things you're trying to get rid of.
Speaker 1: Do I tell you what, Like trying to quit vaping?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it sucks way worse than it was
Speaker 1: trying to quit smoking.
Speaker 2: That's very true. I get that real quick. While you're
Speaker 2: doing patches and things, got a weird scientific experiment that
Speaker 2: I think you could probably lay the rest, And you're
Speaker 2: in a very interesting position in order to do so.
Speaker 2: There is a theory about where a patch placement does
Speaker 2: the best. Right now, most people stake it on their
Speaker 2: arm or you know, I've seen some like on their
Speaker 2: hip for some reason. It's whatever. There is a thread
Speaker 2: on the internet to say that putting it on the
Speaker 2: gooch is like the most effect, not on the sack,
Speaker 2: not on the butt hoole, of course, because that would
Speaker 2: be wild. But putting it on the gooch is the
Speaker 2: best way to get like direct hit contact. It's right
Speaker 2: by the forhmoral arteries, it's right by all like you
Speaker 2: prostate all these things all the I don't know, but
Speaker 2: you are in a weird position where you could potentially
Speaker 2: test this theory out. Would you be gained to do so, sir?
Speaker 1: Absolutely the fuck not, because let me tell you, the
Speaker 1: patches themselves, dude, they leave a little red mark and
Speaker 1: I feel like it's almost like burning a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I'm not putting that underneath my balls. No, thank you.
Speaker 2: You feel the burn. That's how you know it's working.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I mean they do say that like the
Speaker 1: taint area would be a good spot for that. I
Speaker 1: think it's because of like the blood brain barrier, and
Speaker 1: maybe it's a little bit kind of like the mouth.
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, it's right there by your sack.
Speaker 2: If you're what if the coum that you produce would
Speaker 2: start having a okay, Samuel, Samuel hands right, it.
Speaker 1: Just comes out with a nicotine addiction. You know, she
Speaker 1: gets pregnant.
Speaker 2: There's smokes.
Speaker 1: Say it against Sam.
Speaker 4: I volunteers tribute.
Speaker 2: Would you conduct the experiment? I don't know why I
Speaker 2: didn't think about asking you. I okay, you bottled whiskey.
Speaker 1: In yes, but you can only boof it.
Speaker 16: Do you do.
Speaker 2: You vape currently? I know you smoke weed, but do
Speaker 2: you vape?
Speaker 4: No? I like smoking a pipe tobacco, So do you
Speaker 4: do that daily? Only every time I get drunk?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well you know then, okay, you'd be a
Speaker 2: decent control test because you're not a smoker, so like
Speaker 2: you don't have a nicotine addiction at this time, so
Speaker 2: you doing this would kind of be a very uh
Speaker 2: a good litmus test of sorts anyway, Seeing if.
Speaker 4: I use raps when I smoke, and then when I'll
Speaker 4: smoke by eight or nine blunts when I have vaps
Speaker 4: by most youth papers.
Speaker 1: Eight or nine blunts? Is that in a day?
Speaker 4: That's in a set?
Speaker 1: And my guys, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank yeah, never mind, you're equally addicted to nicotine,
Speaker 2: whether you realize it or not. I didn't realize you
Speaker 2: were ingesting that much tobacco as well.
Speaker 4: But I don't crave tobacco. I can put it down.
Speaker 4: I could pick it up, just like the only thing
Speaker 4: I do not I won't put down is my weed.
Speaker 4: But I I can do a hardcore metha vetamine. I've
Speaker 4: done that had all the written in all. When I
Speaker 4: was a kid, they were prescribing that shit. To me,
Speaker 4: it's lee myth. I could to put that shit down.
Speaker 4: I stopped that Kolentucky after doing it for six years,
Speaker 4: the add all and all, because it was prescribed. I
Speaker 4: went from two hundred and fifty milligrams a day to zero.
Speaker 2: Damn, that's kind of a hard drop.
Speaker 1: Well, uh, speaking of putting it down, let's let's give
Speaker 1: the the a the Waysian send off, or at least
Speaker 1: the Waysian prayer. And so shall it be thine third
Speaker 1: eye shall be opened by dawn light, and by his
Speaker 1: holy smoke, shall you see the truth of the one
Speaker 1: within herbology one four Ramen Ramen, Samuel, go ahead and
Speaker 1: give your send off, sir.
Speaker 2: Good night, chesty pool wherever you are, a pleasant bear
Speaker 2: to carry us. Much love from the Creek boys, Much
Speaker 2: love much love, buddy.
Speaker 1: Anyhow, look we uh we we're gonna book it out
Speaker 1: of here. We are right past our mark. We appreciate
Speaker 1: everybody coming to hang out with us tonight. Definitely join
Speaker 1: us next Tuesday. I'm sure it will be not less chaotic.
Speaker 1: I can't promise you that it's always going to be
Speaker 1: craziness up in here, but that's what we look forward to,
Speaker 1: and that's why we try and invite as many good
Speaker 1: cult members to the live shows as humanly possible to
Speaker 1: just get so many different perspectives, bring up so many
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