WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.039 We're Tarma Lorenzo and this is the Pop Style Opinion Fest. Hello, 2 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:29.359 Kitten's welcome back to another edition of the PSO. I 3 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:31.559 am the Tea and your tea low Tom Fitzgeryld and 4 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:33.039 I'm here with the loan and your tea. Let Lorenz 5 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:34.439 and my cousin, I love the husband. 6 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:36.719 And we're here. We're tab Hunter on the table, on 7 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:39.280 the table. It's always here. It's so cute. We set 8 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.119 up the equipment, we sit down, and then he jumps 9 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:43.240 on the tabe immediately. 10 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:47.759 Tab Hunter is our twenty two pound ginger boy cat. 11 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:49.240 He is the sweetest boy. 12 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:52.159 He loves us. I have to apologize. The air conditioning 13 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:54.159 has kicked in big time this week, and I have 14 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:56.799 air conditioning voice, which I get every summer in the beginning. 15 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:58.200 Right now, I can't stand it. 16 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.759 I apologize for my rast people, but I sound a 17 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:05.519 little bit like Dale Dickey on Widow's Bay So lesbian. 18 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:11.480 We'll get into that. In fact, let's map out this podcast. 19 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:15.680 We're gonna do a little bit of TV talking. Well, 20 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:17.760 I'm gonna do a little bit of TV talk because 21 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:20.840 there's Doctor Who News and I have opinions on it. 22 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:22.799 Lorenzo has no opinion. 23 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:24.760 On it, have no clue what so he will get. 24 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.239 To sip his tea while I speak. Then we're going 25 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:29.760 to jump in on some celebrity stuff, some of which 26 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:32.760 is TikTok fueled, some of which is just in the air. 27 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:34.439 It. 28 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:37.000 We're going to talk about the celebrities who are courtside 29 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.439 of the next games. We're going to talk about the 30 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:47.040 latest hated rivalry, freaking fan controversy, stupid shit, and what 31 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:51.480 else are we talking about? Drag Race Yes, Jenks monsoon 32 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:53.159 she's gonna be on the West End. Well, she is 33 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:56.280 on the West End, and just sort of the question 34 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:00.359 of whether or not drag Race is actually are good 35 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:05.560 at sussing out talented queens. And we'll end the podcast 36 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:08.840 with a little discussion on the latest episode of Widows Bay, 37 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:11.400 which we weren't planning on talking about, but there are 38 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:14.800 I need to unpack a theory, So in order to 39 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:16.240 do that, we'll do that at the end of the 40 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.680 episode because it'll be all spoiler of the latest episode. 41 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:23.759 My favorite uh yeah, absolutely my favorite show on my 42 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:25.960 show on right now that I'm like, oh my god, 43 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:28.199 there's a new episode today, and I just know. 44 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:30.159 That never happened. 45 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:34.960 Well, it does, but like with Widows Bay, I I 46 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.159 actually didn't wasn't a late adopter of Widow's Bay. I 47 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:41.240 think like the second week maybe I had heard about 48 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:45.000 it and I started watching it. But you know, these 49 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:48.360 these seasons are relatively long, and the show just when 50 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:50.479 you fall in love with the show, it's over. 51 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.039 I know. But anyway, we'll talk more about it. 52 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.280 But whatever, they are clearly setting up a season two, 53 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:56.039 so oh. 54 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:59.479 My god, they better and we are. 55 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:02.280 Happy planning our trip to Ireland. 56 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:05.879 In Scotland and Scotland we've been on. 57 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.080 A Belfast place. 58 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.400 Oh God, forgot to talk to you about that. But anyway, 59 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:11.879 I'm glad I'm not going there. 60 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:15.560 We have friends in North yeah though. 61 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:18.159 Anyway, it's we've been to Ireland before, it's our first 62 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:20.520 time in Scotland. I'm very excited about it, and I 63 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:22.879 want to thank every one of you who emailed me. 64 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.520 Us uh would suggest so. 65 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:29.080 You emailed him please. I barely looked at them. 66 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:31.159 I know they were like, this is a long random 67 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:34.159 it's so cute. Anyway, so thank you so much for 68 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.319 the emails and suggestions. I really appreciate it because you 69 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.919 guys live there you know it's it's it's better to 70 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:42.759 get suggested from local. You know, they know they know 71 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.520 the places. Anyway, Thank you so much. I can't wait 72 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:48.039 to go. It looks like paradise. It looks such like 73 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:49.120 such a beautiful place. 74 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:50.840 I know, I can't wait to go to. I'm getting 75 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.800 very excited. But we are flying out on July fourth, 76 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:58.479 which is saying of us, But I need to reiterate 77 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.039 that we live three blocks from the Liberty Bill and 78 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.680 Independence Hall and it's all ready. 79 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:04.599 To getting crazy. 80 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:09.080 I know it's not. I mean, Phillies July fourth celebrations 81 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:11.840 are always great, but they they they're never as big 82 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:14.319 as New York's and Washington d C's, which is kind 83 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:16.759 of unfair because we're the whole point. But what Ebbs. 84 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:21.120 But this year, this year, I can tell. I mean, 85 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:23.199 the crowds are already coming, and I just want to 86 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:24.959 be out of here. I do not want to be 87 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:27.560 in the neighborhood when all this sure. 88 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:33.759 Cleaning up everything, of fixing stuff, everything's new flowers and pots. 89 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.639 I mean, they're trying to spruce it up. Could be wrong. 90 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:38.240 I love now my neighborhood. 91 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:39.879 I love my neighborhood, yes, but. 92 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:46.199 Just as an aside. The shots of that fighting cage 93 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:50.160 on the White House lawn. It is actually breaking my 94 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:52.279 brain every time I look at it them I'm like that, 95 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:54.839 what that does not compute? 96 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.720 No, it's it's it's disgraceful. It's sad. That's the word 97 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:00.399 I'm going to use right now, it's said. 98 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:04.079 And I I really don't believe that the people who 99 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:08.680 support this thing actually support it. I don't think they 100 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:10.600 look at that and go, yeah, that's what America is 101 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:13.199 all about, that's what the White House should be. They 102 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:15.480 just want to piss off people like us. They want 103 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:16.079 to piss off. 104 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.600 Well, at this point, I don't give a ship what 105 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.360 they think anymore. It's great. 106 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:26.160 Did you see what the ringside? The ringside? Betsy Ross, 107 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:27.720 I don't. 108 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:32.120 I'm done trying to decipher these motherfuckers. So I'm done. 109 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:33.279 I'm done. I just don't want. 110 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:35.680 Don't say that. 111 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:38.759 I just want to fight them, that's all. I don't 112 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.920 care how they feel or think anymore, because it doesn't change, 113 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:44.000 doesn't matter anyway anyway. 114 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:50.959 All right, moving on to uh less contentious topics. I 115 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.600 did want to talk briefly about Doctor Who, which you 116 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.360 know I'm a fan of I have written extensively about 117 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:58.279 over the years. I have a lot of opinions on 118 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:02.879 it and this development. Russell T. Davies, who has been 119 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:06.240 the showrunner for the last couple of years, and who 120 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:12.399 returned to the show several years back after he relaunched 121 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:14.000 it in two thousand and five and made it an 122 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:17.279 international hit, brought success to the franchise that it had 123 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:21.560 never really had before, and re energized it for the 124 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:23.839 twenty first century. He brought it back after something like 125 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:27.279 a sixteen year hiatus or was it that long, Yeah, 126 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:32.879 it was sixteen years, nineteen eighty nine. So I think, 127 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:36.360 on one hand, Russell T. Davies deserves a lot of 128 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:39.639 consideration from the fandom of Doctor Who, like he has 129 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:42.079 really he brought that character, put him back on the 130 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:46.120 you know, set him on a road towards a level 131 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:50.839 of popularity that he had never had before. And then 132 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:55.120 he came back and then he he made a lot 133 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:57.600 of creative decisions that I simply I was like, what 134 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:01.560 are we doing here? Most of which is unpacked. I 135 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:05.439 did review most of the of his work the two seasons. 136 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:07.639 I didn't do every episode because it got really repetitive 137 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:09.639 and as I said near the end of the I 138 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:13.560 think in the last recap we did, I said, we 139 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:17.120 didn't do every episode because we just didn't want to 140 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:19.560 complain all the time. It would have been nothing but complaints. 141 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:23.639 So he. 142 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:29.360 I want to commend him for bringing Judy got One 143 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:32.920 in as the lead character. He was the he brought 144 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:35.160 him in, and he was the first black man to 145 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:36.839 play the character. He was the first gay man to 146 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:40.759 play the character. And these were good and necessary things 147 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:45.160 to push the franchise forward. And Judy was wonderful in 148 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:48.680 the role. Honestly, he was so, so, so good in 149 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.519 the role. As much as I love Jody Whittaker, who 150 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.160 came in before him, and I really did she struggled 151 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:55.959 in that role. And part of the reason she struggled 152 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:59.360 in it, I think was because a she was a 153 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:03.040 woman playing character exclusively played by men, and I don't 154 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.199 think the writing ever gave her a way in on that. 155 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:09.680 They tended to wave it away, and they really should 156 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:12.480 have explored, Okay, your gender has changed, shouldn't you have 157 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:14.480 some thoughts about it? And they just kind of waved 158 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:16.839 all that away as if it didn't matter. And I 159 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:19.079 think that doesn't give an actor something to work with. 160 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:22.879 Right with Chudy, they actually did address the fact that 161 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:25.079 he was gay for the first time, or that we 162 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:27.879 knew of the character and black for the first time 163 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:29.800 that we knew of and that we had so we 164 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:33.159 had him dealing with, you know, racism in a way 165 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.200 that the character had never dealt with it before or 166 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:41.720 rarely dealt with it before. And I had mixed feelings 167 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.879 about giving the character a sexual attraction, which they did 168 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:49.879 in Jonathan Coffin. People loved that episode, but I kept saying, well, 169 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:52.120 you know, there's like sixty years of material saying that 170 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:55.519 this character doesn't fall in love that much, doesn't have 171 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:59.360 an attraction to human beings. So when you make him gay, 172 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.480 suddenly he can't control himself. There's something a little off 173 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:02.720 of it. 174 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:04.480 I have a question for you. I don't watch the show. 175 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:05.840 I don't know much about it, but I read a 176 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:08.679 lot of stuff about it, some of the backlash, of course, 177 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.399 And my point is, do you think it was too 178 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.399 much black and gay and too much gayness going on? 179 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:16.759 I don't think there's such a thing as I know 180 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:20.000 that I agree, but I do think Russell, who is 181 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:23.639 a gay man himself, I think he made a point 182 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:26.200 of tweaking the nose of the haters. He talked about 183 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.399 it all the time. He talked about deliberately trying to 184 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:35.960 piss them off. Remember, and uh, you know, I don't 185 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:39.799 think that's the issue here. He did introduce concepts and 186 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:42.879 character types. He introduced a trans character into the you 187 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:48.000 know storyline, But I don't think that's the issue. First off, 188 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:51.600 Doctor Who, much like the closest analog to it in 189 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:54.559 America is probably Star Trek because it's a long running 190 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:59.799 science fiction program, which much like Star Trek, Doctor Who 191 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.480 has especially modern Who has always had a progressive bent 192 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:04.399 right from the beginning. 193 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:05.679 It was gay. 194 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.840 You know, it wasn't so much in the twentieth century, 195 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.799 but in this century, yes it was pro gay. 196 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:13.559 It was. 197 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:17.080 It did a lot of color blind casting, it. It 198 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:19.360 pushed the envelope a lot in the last twenty years 199 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:22.399 on what kind of characters can I mean, it was 200 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:25.039 a big deal the first time he got a black companion. 201 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:29.759 That seems silly now, but it was a big deal anyway. 202 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:35.600 So creatively, I think the problem with Russell T. Davies 203 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:37.399 coming back into the fold is that he is an 204 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.919 old school, old, old old timey fan, and when he 205 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:44.240 brought the show back in two thousand and five after 206 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.679 sixteen years away, he was updating all of these old 207 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:49.799 concepts like the Daleks and all this, you know, the 208 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:53.399 Sea Devils, whatever, and it was fun and exciting to 209 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:56.279 see these things. But now we are twenty years into 210 00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:00.840 this reboot and he came back and start doing the same. 211 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:04.120 The last thing Doctor Who needed in the twenty twenties 212 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:08.200 was more looking backwards, was more, Oh, we're bringing the 213 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:10.919 c Devils back, We're bringing Sue Tech back, We're you 214 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:14.159 know whatever. The one thing Doctor Who needs more than 215 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:19.559 anything else going forward, if it does go forward, is 216 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.120 a complete overhaul, the same to the same extent that 217 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:26.519 was done in two thousand and five. So I haven't 218 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:29.919 even gotten to the announcement. Davies and the BBC were 219 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:34.320 teasing some Doctor Who announcement all week long. The last 220 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:36.799 time we had heard anything about Doctor Who. It was 221 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:40.519 not going to continue on Disney Plus in the United States, 222 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.240 but there was going to be a Christmas special and 223 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.279 then they were going to figure it out going forward. 224 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:49.279 So the announcement comes out this week. Surprise, there's no 225 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.519 Christmas special. It was never scripted. Russell T. Davies came 226 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:54.320 right out and said, I lied, we didn't have anything. 227 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:57.879 We were trying to draw up the interest and he's off. 228 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:02.679 He's they're not continuing with his production company. They are 229 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:07.879 sending the franchise to tender, which is in the basically 230 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.039 means they're looking at offers at any other production company 231 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:14.200 who wants to come in and overhauld the character. Bottom 232 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:15.799 line is we're not going to see new Who for 233 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:16.919 probably five years. 234 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:19.720 Oh my god. Yeah, I mean it'll be that long. 235 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:20.639 They have to, and. 236 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:25.720 I just think it would be a huge mistake to 237 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:28.879 bring somebody in and well, well, let's do a story 238 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.320 about the Dolleks, let's do a story about the cyberment. No, 239 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.200 how about you do with you just wipe the slate clean. 240 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:35.960 I mean the one that one of the great things 241 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:39.320 about the two thousand and five reboot was that they 242 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.600 they didn't fuss with anything. They didn't even explain who 243 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:47.279 they There was a regeneration, but we never really saw it. 244 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:49.399 They just brought in a new guy and said this 245 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:53.000 is the new guy, and they just kind of glossed 246 00:12:53.039 --> 00:12:55.759 over the less whatever had happened in the previous several 247 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:58.360 years and I honestly think that's what they need to 248 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:00.519 do with this is let let this go fallow for 249 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:04.879 a few years and then bring do some exciting casting announcement. 250 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:08.799 And if they really wanted to revitalize this franchise, they 251 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:13.200 should probably go against the grain and cast an actual star, 252 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:15.279 do a stunt casting. 253 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:16.159 Do you know? 254 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.480 I don't care fucking till this Swinton, I don't care. 255 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:19.440 Put somebody out. 256 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:22.279 People have talked about her, Oh, she would never do it, 257 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:24.759 but Billy, why not? I don't think she does TV 258 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:26.519 or I mean, I don't think she does TV at all. 259 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.480 Do the stars anyway, but something like that, Do some 260 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:34.519 stunt casting for a season, bring somebody in to really 261 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:39.120 lend it some star power, redesign the tartists don't do. 262 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:43.279 Don't explain any of it, just go full bore straight 263 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.240 into the adventures. I don't care about the timeless child stuff, 264 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:52.000 don't I really don't care about whoever Judy gotwer regenerated 265 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.000 into at the end of that last episode. I know 266 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:57.559 it's Billy Piper, but please can we forget that that 267 00:13:57.639 --> 00:14:01.519 ever happened? It was a terrible, terrible idea. So that's 268 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:07.480 my thing on Doctor Who Is I did not greet 269 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:10.080 this announcement with despair. I was like, no, this is 270 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:14.120 actually what needs to happen, and I hope if they do, 271 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:16.799 when and if they do come back, I hope it's 272 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:21.360 it's a clean I this is sacrilege, but get rid 273 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:23.720 of the police box. I'm not joking. Get rid of 274 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:24.559 the police box. 275 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:25.039 It is. 276 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.919 They don't even have them in Great Britain anymore. And 277 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:30.039 for the last ten years of the show, the joke 278 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:32.519 was always characters in Britain were like, what is that 279 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:35.360 blue box? Because they don't have them anymore, you have 280 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.759 an opportunity there. That ship can look like anything, anything 281 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.440 at all. Imagine what you could do if you weren't 282 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:45.799 locked into this sixty year old continuity. The other thing 283 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.559 I want to suggest is I really think the show 284 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:52.200 should get away from the big cosmic space stuff and 285 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:55.240 get back to being a time travel show based in England. 286 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.159 That to me was always when it was its most entertaining. 287 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:02.000 They're kind of the easiest ones to shoot because you 288 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:04.200 don't have to do these massive specially. You can just 289 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:06.080 find some castle somewhere and shoot it there. 290 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:07.360 That would be I would watch that. 291 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:09.879 It used to be that that used to be the show. 292 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:13.080 It was about this this goofy alien who time traveled 293 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:16.080 all around England. And I really think it needs to 294 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:17.679 get back to that. You need to put a star 295 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.279 in there. You need to get rid of the tartis 296 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:24.159 or the blue box, and you need to here's the thing. 297 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:26.639 And again, people are gonna get mad at me, old 298 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.120 school hoofans are gonna get mad at me. But when 299 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:31.159 you look at something like Star Wars or Star Trek, 300 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:35.799 the ships, the ships become iconic, they become toys, they 301 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:38.360 become things that you want to be in. And he 302 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.399 flies around in a blue box and I get it. 303 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:44.279 It's cute, it's charming, it's twee tradition, but it's it's 304 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:48.039 been sixty plus years. Like, maybe give him a cool ship, 305 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:51.519 or maybe just give him something that goofully changes every 306 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:55.039 week into something else. You have that it's written in. 307 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:58.039 He has that perception filter thing. Anyway, I'm rambling in 308 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:02.080 a very nerdy way. But my take is, as much 309 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:04.759 as I appreciate Russell T. Davies as a gay creator 310 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:07.039 and as the guy who brought and he did, he 311 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.840 gave us queer as folk the original version, I like 312 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:13.759 the guy. But he never should have come back to 313 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:15.879 to uh doctor. I mean the first thing he did 314 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:17.759 was bring back to David Tennant and it was a 315 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:21.240 fun thing, but it was kind of a fan thing 316 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.679 to do. Yeah, it was a precursor to it. Just 317 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:27.159 sort of in retrospect, it indicated that he really didn't 318 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:29.559 have new ideas, and the new ideas that he did have, 319 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:34.080 like talking babies in space, were just all right. So 320 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:36.519 we're going to take a short break, and when we 321 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:39.679 get back, Lorenzo has much in the way of celebrity 322 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:44.480 stuff to talk about. We'll be right back. We're back, 323 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:46.360 and now we're going to talk about the Knicks, even 324 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:49.559 though we are not sports fans, not basketball fans, and 325 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:51.720 not Knicks fans, but that has never stopped us from 326 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:54.519 having an opinion. Actually, obviously we're not going to have 327 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:59.840 an opinion on the actual games themselves. Except listen, I'm 328 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.399 happy for New Yorkers. They are that city is thrilled 329 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:05.960 in a and they deserve it. They you know, I'm 330 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.279 just happy for them. It's great when a city has 331 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:12.440 got that kind of fever going. And you know, New 332 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.839 York has waited a long time for an NBA championship 333 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:16.759 to come their way again. 334 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:19.400 It almost didn't happen, you know. Yeah, and just see 335 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:21.119 so the you know. 336 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.839 The the block party, viewing parties, people putting their TVs 337 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:27.880 out in the street and everything. I just love that 338 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:33.160 it is so quintessentially New York. Also quintessentially New York 339 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:36.880 is the heavy, heavy, heavy celebrity presence at the Games, 340 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:38.680 and that is what we're going to talk about today. 341 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:43.039 I just I just thought it was interesting because I've 342 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:46.119 always seen them, you know, attending games front row. You know, 343 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:49.759 that's nothing new, But I don't remember that much attention 344 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:52.319 twidst them like there is now. 345 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:54.400 That's because they're a champion. 346 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:56.319 I mean the feel I feel there's a lot more 347 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:58.119 now attention to them, and I think it has to 348 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:01.000 do with maybe Tim all May and. 349 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.279 Of course you do and tell her swift right, they're 350 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:03.799 the reason. 351 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:06.720 No, they're not the reasons, but they're they're big names. 352 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:09.279 I mean wherever she goes, you know, and and him 353 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:12.920 and and Kyla Kylie Jenner. You know, I feel like 354 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:17.200 because they're young and they're very popular because usually we're 355 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:20.400 people I don't know, famous stars, but not I don't know, 356 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:23.079 not on this same level. That's how I feel. But 357 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.759 my so, I noticed a lot more attention, a lot 358 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.480 more videos, a lot more pictures. It's because because. 359 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:31.839 Part of that is because they're in the championships, and 360 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:35.160 part of that is because they're in the championships, more 361 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:37.599 stars are showing up, right, But there have always been 362 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:40.440 stars court sided. I mean, Spike Lee and Ben Stiller 363 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:43.400 have been court sided next games for years. They're known 364 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:47.240 for that. Even Timothy shallow May, long before this season, 365 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.799 was actually known for being a Knicks fan for showing 366 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:53.440 up having court side seats. There was a social media 367 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.920 post that went out earlier this week which he was 368 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:58.720 apparently featured on the NIXT social media like when he 369 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.480 was fifteen years old, right because he was some super 370 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:02.119 fan at the time. 371 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:05.279 I feel that the pr machine is in full force 372 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:08.680 now when it comes to those front row seats. Uh, 373 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:11.319 you see a lot more And he has designed and 374 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.519 he has chrumb rit chrumb Heart's designing clothes for him, 375 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:17.839 especially to attend the show. That kind of stuff. I 376 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:21.079 think it's just a lot more. Uh. It feels more 377 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:24.119 like a red carpet than anything else. So anyway, on 378 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:27.559 TikTok and everywhere. People were kind of like complaining a 379 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:29.960 little bit about that, because I understand if you were 380 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:31.920 a fan, if you were if you you know, a 381 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:34.359 fan of sports or whatever, and you can't afford tickets, 382 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:37.359 there's always that take that you know, these people get 383 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:39.440 tickets for free, and you know they get to be 384 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:41.920 there and and you know they have bodyguards in front 385 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:44.720 of them, disrupting the whole thing. Blah blah blah. 386 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:48.480 But I just want to say it. Last night Ben 387 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:50.960 Stellar was being interviewed post game, but I think by 388 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.720 Charles Barklay, and he was asked, you know, how long 389 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:56.160 have you been a season ticket holder? And he rather 390 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:59.960 sheepishly but honestly replied, I'm not They just give select 391 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.599 liberties tickets. They just give us free tickets. 392 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:03.359 He said, I don't have them. 393 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:05.640 There was a little bit of a backlashing or probably 394 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:09.359 I don't know, I haven't checked. At the time. When 395 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:10.880 I saw that, I was like, well, at least he's 396 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:12.400 being honest. I don't have a problem with it, And 397 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:16.640 I mean to be honest this whole conversation. I'm just like, 398 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:19.920 all right, I as someone who writes about celebrities and 399 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:22.720 their apparent public appearances all the time. Sure, all weigh 400 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:25.680 in on this, but I'm not a Knicks fan, I'm 401 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:28.920