Speaker 1: Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied to come
off the bitch. Hour two of Off the Bench Live
from downtown Baton Rouge starts an Now, all right.
Speaker 3: Welcome back in OTB.
Speaker 4: Here our number two. Obviously, we'll find our way back
to college football here coming up some big, big moments
in the Southeastern Conference. But now we go from college
football to the National Football League, where your New Orleans
Saints fall short yet again twenty six, twenty one. You
had some opportunities in the game. I think you had
some great individual performances. You had some moments to be
able to go out there and win the football game.
This is a team that's gonna fight hard, They're gonna
have some big plays, and they're also gonna fall short
a lot.
Speaker 5: There's just a deficiency out there. There's a deficiency and
like just overall top to bottom talent. I mean they're
playing hard though, I mean they are playing hard, but
in the Dome, it's a game that you had to
even with your deficiencies, that you have to expect you're
gonna win. You needed this one back, You needed this
one when they're playing a backup quarterback in there, and
it's more it's corcor who is McCorkle back.
Speaker 4: No, we're not we're not doing that here.
Speaker 3: He's not bad.
Speaker 5: Uh But yes, watched the game. I was cheering, but
they did, I mean to to the defense. Mac Jones
did make some actually really good throws, really timely throws,
some third down conversions, but no excuse for the loss.
Speaker 3: Chris A.
Speaker 5: Lava, I don't know what to think of him right now,
Like he's got so much hype around him coming into
the season. I know he had the injuries last year,
but there's times where I'm like, are you hurt right now?
Like is there something off? What is happening? Like your
body control doesn't seem to be there. I know, like
early in the game, so Spencer threw a post in
the end zone, should have been a touchdown. Yeah, do
it a little bit behind him? Yeah, but you see
that catch made all the time? Right it certainly you
want to want better, has to it needs to be better.
Quarterback coach right now watching the film with Spencer saying
you got to get it. You can't throw behind him,
but you see that catch made all the time. How
many times you see Justin Jefferson jump and catch one
back yup like it just like that is a routine
catch for number one wide receivers.
Speaker 3: I agree, it's a routine catch. I mean we're watching
here in studio.
Speaker 4: They're showing highlight of elite neighbors getting his head almost
like turned sideways, and he still comes up there.
Speaker 5: Is catching a past a billion yards down the field
with the guys with a guy's hands in his eyes.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because that's what like receiver want. It's what
you expect. Like it's not easy, but you make the
hard look easy to.
Speaker 5: In a in a team that has roster deficiencies from
top to bottom, a quarterback that's young and showing some
really good stuff like he's got it has to take
another step, but he's showing some really good stuff. You
would expect your number one receiver to make plays like that.
And then there's just other things where it's just hard
to read. I ita understand. Now, he did make a
couple of plays early in the game. You want Johnson
dropping passes. Now, he made up for it.
Speaker 3: He did. But don't get me wrong, he did.
Speaker 5: He made a lot of people that were cursing on
X he made him all say have to like, you know,
follow up on that tweet and say yuh yeah, well
he showed me up there. He proved me wrong. Good job,
but still don't drop easy passes. Sort to tell my
son all the time when we were thrown in the yard,
don't drop the easy ones. You don't have to catch
all the hard ones, but don't drop the easy ones.
But you know, I'm not We can't paint a picture
of like, hey, there's a lot of positives that take
away blah blah blah, because there's not. I think Kella
Moore is still settling into his role as a head coach,
head coach, slash play caller and played designer developing game
plans throughout the week.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they lost. I don't really have anything else.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was look I do. I thought Spencer
played great great. I don't know about great, but he
played well. He played very well, playing really good football.
If you're twenty five or thirty four, you're taking care
of the football, you throw three touchdowns, you only get
sacked three times.
Speaker 3: Behind that, that.
Speaker 4: Offensive line performance, certainly at the guard position, says plural
both of them. I must say your quarterback ratings one eighteen.
That's damn close to great. Like I'm not saying he
had the best performance of Week two in the NFL,
but I can't.
Speaker 5: I can't crow quarterback performance great when you lose to mccorkory.
You know, I'm not saying it's a one on one match.
If I get it, there's a lot of help that
needs to be done. I think Spencer's playing really solid
football and a lot of positive takeaways, but there has
to be another step.
Speaker 3: But with you're not losing because of Spencer, absolutely.
Speaker 5: But we said that before the season, Like the problem
is not going to be the quarterback this year. It's
kind of to the point where it's with the way
we're playing, he's got to pretty much try to win
games by himself. And we've seen quarterbacks do that and
that would be the next step. But man, what a
baptism by fire he's getting right now and really coming
out the other end positive. Like he's playing well and
we saw it at South Carolina he played under pressure,
got destroyed but still made played.
Speaker 2: The same thing is happening now.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: The only the only like watching it I can tell
I can feel Saints fans watching it like when it's
third and nine, third and ten, third, eleven and we
have to keep taking checkdowns and keep taking crossing routes
and throw the things behind the first down. I can
feel people saying push it, push it, push the ball.
It's just not there. It's not our guys aren't getting open.
Speaker 6: Heaking of pushing the ball downfield. It was third quarter maybe,
And like I've watched a lot of Spencer Rattler over
the years, I think the best throw of his career
he made yesterday forty yards down the left sideline over
to defense in the bucket to Rashid Jihad, Like Chiet
was covered and that pocket was collapsing. He dropped it
right in there. Just again he was covered. He just
made the pon.
Speaker 3: He plays well in chaos, like he really does.
Speaker 4: He really does. Which that's when we were talking about
who should win the quarterback battle. It wasn't anything against Schuck.
It was like, you're gonna need a quarterback that lives
in chaos and thrives in chaos, and he, Spencer Ratler,
does that. And that was kind of my deciding factor
when I was trying to figure out who I wanted
to be the Saints starting quarterback. Because let's play our
favorite game that we play every single week of what
did Caesar Ruiz great out at Let's go.
Speaker 6: Around them a couple of good plays though.
Speaker 4: Let's go around the room. Let's get Oh, I've got it.
I always have it. I always have it ready to
That's our favorite game that we play here on Monday. Matthew,
total grade.
Speaker 3: I've missed it every time. Let's go seven. Well, so
is he all right?
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with a realistic one sixty one?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, no, that's realistic.
Speaker 6: Last week, I'm gonna go thirty eight.
Speaker 4: That was worse, thirty eighth, forty point three.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say three point but I thought that
was too low last week.
Speaker 3: Last week he was lowering last week in the thirties
last week. Uh so, I guess maybe he did get better.
Speaker 4: There we go, uh past blocking thirty five, run blocking
forty six, solid numbers.
Speaker 3: And look, I don't know, I don't know this.
Speaker 4: This this man, and but like if you consistently have
failing grades from the interior of your offense front because
even Eric McCoy, who I I love, think he's a
really good football player.
Speaker 3: He struggled in this game.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was a fifty seven and your other guard,
your left guard, is fifty nine. So when you're a
quarterback and I can't speak on this like Flynn can.
I can't imagine the thought process because you want to
trust in your guys, You want to believe in your guys.
Speaker 3: You want to think they're going to get the job done.
But I would have soon. Man, You're like, look right
in front, right here, my right guard.
Speaker 4: He is getting not only a failing grade, but he's
getting like the dean is sending a.
Speaker 3: Letter to your parents.
Speaker 4: We can't allow him to come to class anymore type grades,
like he is holding everybody else in the classroom back
type grades like I have to imagine as a quarterback,
It's like that's in your thought process, right.
Speaker 5: Kind of like you've already been kicked out of school,
but you keep going to class. Touch situation, just keep
showing up. Yeah, we dropped you a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Get the grade here, bud.
Speaker 4: Right like that, even if you're trying to be a
good teammate and you're trying to have belief like and
this is this is you know, not a rhetorical question
like don't you think about that if your right guard
struggled every game you've played together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 5: A quarterback, if you're if you're under pressure a lot, Yeah,
you definitely think about it. At running back, you have
to think about it. I got the times that he
does show up is when he gets he's pretty good
when he gets to the second level. Yeah, when he
when he pulls around athletic. He's athletics. So he's pretty
good in open in space, just not in the trenches. Yeah,
it's just not great. We should we show this clip
all the time. Elne is gonna know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Like when the Phillies and they're calling somebody out of
the bullpen and the catcher sees who's coming out of
the bullpen and he's like, mother, oh yeah, all.
Speaker 3: Right, he gets that look on his face and he
starts shaking his head.
Speaker 7: Ye.
Speaker 3: Like as a running back, you get like that. You're
like they call power and you're like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the Ben Siller smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 7: Make sure an athletic.
Speaker 2: That's like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: What that same guy that's been. It's been the same actors.
Speaker 5: The clip of Brooks Koepka when Bryce and d Chambeau
walks behind him.
Speaker 3: Seen that clip.
Speaker 5: He's like, God, yeah, that's that's what the that's what
we feel like when Caesar misses another block, which is
apparently fifty seven percent of the plays. Yeah last week,
this week too, he's forty three this no, I'm sorry, Yeah,
fifty seven percent of the time missing a block.
Speaker 3: Last week it was over sixty percent. Give me an idea.
Speaker 4: The next closest gray to him, he was a forty three.
Point three was a fifty five. So, like he's in
his own category right now.
Speaker 3: Yep, he's almost to the point.
Speaker 5: Like so we talked about that, We talked about Burrow
and we'll talk about his foot a little bit later.
But like we talked about him, how he pretty much
has to win games by himself, right, Like the Bengals
are trash organization, they don't do the right things, blah
blah blah. But he does win it. But he also
has two pretty badass receivers to help him, Like you
have to have that. Yeah, now, our guys are getting there,
but that's what you need, olave to be that type
of guy. Now, sha Heed's playing hard, Shaheed's doing his things,
but he's a little bit you know, he's still trying
to figure out how to play all positions at wide
receiver and play it well. A lave's got to be
the dude that steps out. And I'm not saying Beijamar Chase.
At least be t Higgins, be their number two. Be
as good as the Bengals number two.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean, look, they drafted you in the
first round. I mean they're expecting you to be upper
echelon type receiver like Joe.
Speaker 5: Burrow would not be able to do the things like
to win games in Cincinnati pretty much single handedly without
Jamar Chase, right, without somebody to receive that catch that
he's received the past.
Speaker 4: That he's thrown and unfortunately Joe gonna miss three months.
Speaker 3: God the old turf toe man. We talked about.
Speaker 4: Doctor Ethers talked about it a couple of Wednesdays ago, like,
you got a bad, severe case, you gotta have surgery.
And I was like, man, I never heard of anybody
having surgery. Of course, our guy Joey b is like
the first one, like, oh that's yeah.
Speaker 6: Again, guys, we gotta we gotta stop talking about players.
We like, it's not it's not just the Saints anymore.
It's everybody.
Speaker 3: It's everybody.
Speaker 2: We're jinxing everybody.
Speaker 3: I don't learn that power.
Speaker 5: I mean, how many how many shows out there in
the country have an in depth, detailed, whole segment with
a doctor talking about turf toe.
Speaker 2: Probably not a lot for no reason.
Speaker 4: He really funny enough because well Trevor Penning had it right,
but funny enough.
Speaker 3: So when Burrow went down, somebody.
Speaker 4: Hit us up on X and they were like, I
actually know exactly what the injury was because I listened
to y'all talked.
Speaker 3: To doctor Ridge educating in the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so unfortunately it's our guy, Joey b Uh like
they're back at A quarterback came in.
Speaker 3: He played well, but yeah, no one. Saints loose.
Speaker 5: So that was a long and they lost. They tried
really hard, A lot of good tries out there tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Davis continues to be like my spirit animal, Like I
love watching that guy.
Speaker 3: Man, he is awesome.
Speaker 4: I wish it could be that guy for a game
because he is so good at football.
Speaker 5: Like they What I do like to see from the
Saints is they care like I've never seen Kamara run
as hard as it like he's putting his nose in
there hard, like I've never seen him. Like he's a
power running back right down, like he's great, he's he's
always gives effor blah blah blah. But you can tell
he's just he is trying to put the team on
his back. Yeah, Davis, I'm telling you they are playing there.
There ain't Carl.
Speaker 7: Good yesterday. I thought he looked okay for and but
what was Chris Olave doing yesterday? He was playing like
he was concussed.
Speaker 3: I mean, unfortunately. He might just be.
Speaker 5: Speaking of to us like that sounds kind of comparison,
like wait, is not right, right, Like he's why he's
talking in the media where he's playing.
Speaker 3: I mean, huh No, I don't watch.
Speaker 6: A ton of Dolphins games. Hand up, I don't watch.
I don't think he was outstanding before all the injuries.
So whatever, oh man, I will say that you watch
those running backs, anybody that talks about the running backs
having a shelf life. You watch Kamara McCaffrey yesterday. Yeah,
pretty good, right, I mean both what Kamara is thirty,
right and the mcaverick's twenty nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think ak turned thirty like this
year and turned.
Speaker 6: Twenty nine with multiple injuries. But you look damn good
yesterday too. Watching that game, I'm like, anybody wants to
talk about the.
Speaker 3: Yep, the running back.
Speaker 5: So we got a resurgence in the NFL of thirty
plus running backs and then we got the return of
the full back to LSU football.
Speaker 2: Wow, what a big weekend.
Speaker 3: Great weekend weekend, winn. I tried.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I tried to get chat GPT my guy, Uh,
try to get chatby GBT to give me a little
music clip of do return of the mac but then
return to the full full back, copy right and copyright.
Speaker 3: Right, like you stink. Chat.
Speaker 5: Just one of the few times you've ever failed me.
Return of the full back.
Speaker 3: Maybe we can do it, return back, Maybe we do,
dear Delandra, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's just we can't do So it's back there there,
So it is back, and God, it was glorious. And
look at that's what you have to do to run
the football.
Speaker 3: By God, do it. Just do it.
Speaker 4: It's fine, it's okay. If it's not in vogue anymore,
be a trendsetter. I mean, maybe just go to the
center every now and then. Yeah that too, Hey, be
the number one offense in the whole White country. Toss
dive anybody, No, you can't address me in that No, okay,
all right, we'll take a break more OTB when we
come back here.
Speaker 3: One four five men betteries.
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their house for the trophies.
Speaker 3: They had to customize that bad boy. This year twenty
five best windows in the Advocate Tommy My goodness, go Tommy's. Yeah.
Speaker 5: When if you got a project happening, we know that,
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those sightings, those doors. But at Tommy's one of those
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that team is. They work with integrity, they're dependable, they're
professional and most importantly, when you have a project at
a house, we want them to be efficient.
Speaker 3: Go Tommy's doc.
Speaker 1: Um two thousand and seven, Champs Purple and Gold to
the core. This is off the bench with Hester and Flynn, Baton,
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Speaker 3: It is off the bench here on this Monday morning again.
Speaker 4: Saints fall twenty six to twenty one to the San
Francisco forty nine Ers. They bring back some like flashbacks
of being a young Saints fan when the forty nine
Ers and the Saints used to be in the same division.
Seeing that uniform matchup. I know the uniforms are different,
but you know what I'm saying. Saint Brands there in
the Superdome. Kind of brought back some.
Speaker 3: Old school memories there and now the foreigners used to
win those games too, So get it done. We had
a couple of years though. They get it done.
Speaker 2: Said, hey, I'm phoning that we around there. Pretty pretty.
Speaker 3: I mean, you did get paid by the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 4: Like of the people in this room, you're the most
qualified to say we Yeah, it was the last time
I ever put on so last paycheck I ever got
was from them for my five hundred dollars for camp.
Speaker 2: I do still get like the nice.
Speaker 5: I still get the emails from the like every team
has like an alumni director. I still get the emails
like better than others come back from come back for
alumni weekend, and I'm like, nah, I still get them
from like the Raiders and the Jets, And I'm like, nah,
I don't think.
Speaker 4: What if you showed up to Jets Alumni week So boys,
remember those three games?
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, bruh, Yeah, dude, I remember them. Three
weeks of training. I started week four pre season. They
got cut the next day. I get. I get like
I was in I was in Denver for a year
and a half and I get their alumni stuff.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yep, nah, it feels weird, like I legit
get alumni stuff from Oakland or the Raiders, and like
those dudes did.
Speaker 1: Not like me.
Speaker 7: I am.
Speaker 4: I am shocked that they I'm dead serious. I'm shocked
that they have an alumni situation because I'm like, like,
Denver's is actually really good. Like I get a lot
of stuff from them. I don't get as much from
the Chargers just because they don't have Like the Broncos
are like one of those organizations they do everything like
top notch.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: The Raider shocks me that they actually have a shirt
that sends that email out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they actually have some They actually kind of do
some things right from their upper office. I don't get
any emails from the Patriots or the Bills. It's like
I never even existed to them. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Do they not remember seventeen before they're seventeen now? Yeah?
Speaker 5: They must not remember I backed up for one game
in Buffalo. It's like I wasn't even ever there. Don't
even get any invites their alumni weekends. Sorry, man, do
the Patriots and not remember me pulling a hamstring before
training camp and not being able to practice once. Do
they not remember that? I had that one practice of
mini camp though one eight for nine?
Speaker 3: You do not remember camp.
Speaker 2: I was dicing it up. I was like Garoppolo was like, yeah,
tell me how you do that?
Speaker 3: Play quarterback? So well, Brady was like, what is that?
What's that footwork thing? He did? Well?
Speaker 5: Watch him learn, Brady. Watch this just Tom. It's called
a five step drop with a hitch. Teach you something here, Tom,
call me Tom. Quit throwing hitches in the cover to Tom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet he did that a lot.
Speaker 2: They did so embarrassing. He's kind of overrated.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm not gonna even go down that rabbit hole
of your conversation, all right. So, typically, like on Mondays,
we used to do something and I kind of want
to start to ring it back here a little right,
wrong and indifferent. And I want to do this because
I feel like, I think it's very important to be
able to celebrate the wins and you know what you
talked about and what you know ended up happening. I
also think it's very important in our business to talk
about where did you miss and be transparent and say
I thought it was going to go this way, and
it went that way, all right, So and I don't want, like,
don't put a lot of thought into it. Just the
first one. It kind of comes to your brain. I'll
start off with my wrong. I want to raise my
hand high because I got this one wrong. Now, I
went back and forth. I think, I think you'll have
to fact check me. I think on this week on
the station picks, I think I went four and one,
but the one that I missed, I was kind of
going back and forth. I'm like, Vanderbilt South Carolina, Vanderbilt
South Carolina, and okay, well, Williams Bryce at night, they're
gonna win a close game. I thought Diego Pavia like
would actually thrive in that situation because he's one of
those guys that wants everybody hating him and like he
likes that, right.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, it's South Carolina at night.
Speaker 4: Like it's gonna be tough, Like Vanderbilt's gonna put up
a good fight, but South Carolina's talent is probably gonna
pull away. So I was like, you know, let's go
South Carolina. WHOA got that bad boy wrong? The whole
game flow wrong, Vanderbilt won. They're good like They're really
good in a lot of areas. It ain't just Diego Pavia.
They got a Sunday running back, they got a Sunday receiver,
and they got Sunday players on the defense. That's a
team that LSU plays later on down the year. And
now that that game looks completely different now it's on
the road. Doesn't necessarily mean as much obviously there as
it does most places, but still you gotta travel. Vanderbilt's
got some dudes. Did we ever think that we would
say that I completely missed on that game, Clark Lee.
I should have known fullback at Vanderbilt, should have just
gone with my fullback brethren there. But I certainly missed
that one. I thought it would be a close game.
I thought it would be just like you. I thought
it'd be high scoring both teams. Nope, Vanderbilt said we
are going to be the Alpha here today on the road,
and they certainly were.
Speaker 5: That was you know, it was kind of hard to
watch that game because we're still locked into it is
at the same time, which is unfortunate because I really
wanted I did want to see Sellers and Pavia go
back and forth. My wrong, It's going to stick with
the same theme there in the same game as preseason
wrong on Sellers in South Carolina up to this point. Yeah,
it's just not happening right now. When I thought that
this could be a year where Sellers could kind of
take over the SEC. He's got that kind of skill
set and the talent. Maybe it's just too much of
a talent deficiency on that team. I don't know, but
it's just what for whatever reason, it's not hidden. And
we kind of talked about it before the show. The
top quarterback leaning into this season, the thought of Heisman contenders,
that list has been shaken up. A lot of the
top what three four quarterbacks are all not living up
to that. We got Sellers, we got DJ Lagway, we
got club Neck. Even Neus Smyer could fall into that
category from a statistical standpoint, thought to be fighting for
that New York spot. I have not started real well
for any of them. And you know, a lot has
to do with with LSU's defense. With with two of
those quarterbacks and club Nick and and Lagway, and it
will be Sellers in a couple of weeks. He's gonna
he's gonna he'll see the same fate. So the Heisman Watch,
is heman's up for grabs right now? And a couple
of quarterbacks I saw this past weekend that might be
putting there throwing their name in the half of that
cat from Tennessee. He looked great, he looked really good,
specially that athlete really well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a tier, I.
Speaker 5: Mean a tier from Oklahoma that I would say that
he's probably towards the top of the list right now.
Speaker 3: Leader in the clubhouse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, uh, Alandra, what did you feel
like you got wrong this weekend?
Speaker 7: So for sure, South Florida, Ah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Miami looked. Miami looks good.
Speaker 7: I thought they were going to be able to roll
with the big dogs. Turns out they cannot. Got fraud checked.
But it is also so I was between two. I
was kind of leaning toward Tennessee winning that Georgia Tennessee game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that was tough. I would not hold
that one against you.
Speaker 4: Became I typed out Tennessee erase, tied out Georgia erased,
and I kept before I sent in the picks.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know what, you haven't beaten him
since I think twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: I was like that that's tough. That's a mental thing.
That's a mental hurdle you got to get over. So yeah,
you're that one for sure. I'd say South Florida, we
all probably yeah. Yeah, And I thought, I thought and
a half is a lot of points.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Good Miami news slash Miami good at football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mimi's good. Mimi is good in the trenches.
Speaker 2: It's just upsetting for us because the mouth rather quarterback.
Speaker 6: I know you're talking about John Mattier. Dude, Carson Beck
looks good. Not gonna get us flowers, not gonna do it.
He was, he was actually good.
Speaker 3: I know, Uh, where do you get wrong this week?
Speaker 6: I'll go ahead and say I'm wrong on this until
further notice. Michael Penick Jr. Is the guy for the
Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3: Hand up.
Speaker 6: I'll even admit this. I don't even think I ever
said this on air. I did not think Michael Penick Jr.
Was going to be a good NFL quarterback.
Speaker 4: Wow, I had him. I had him ahead of Caleb
I wanted. I wanted Jade Pinnicks Caleb, and I remember
the rest.
Speaker 6: Of the hand up. I did not think he was
going to be a good NFL quarterback. He is, So
that was I'm wrong about. To further notice, I'll tell
you what. The two people that I have the most
sports cards of Jade Daniels and Michael Pennock seldom now
Spencer Spencer Rattler probably close third.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm starting to get some Spencer stuff myself. Go
ahead and get that God and hold that one. Yeah
that was a that was a defensive battle. But yeah,
Pennix can make every single throw in football field. Even
though he's left in it looks a little weird.
Speaker 3: He still yeah, defend JJ McCarthy got a little humble
like he did.
Speaker 5: Like a lot of hype was coming from JJ McCarthy
and from the Week one victory versus the Bears, Caleb
believes outplayed him for three quarters of that game. Now,
he JJ played great at the last two drives of
the game and the Chicago kind of disappeared, but he
he didn't play well the entire game leading up to
that fourth quarter.
Speaker 6: Speaking of JJ, Bilbo makes this coming in the chat.
Speaker 3: Yeah they are.
Speaker 6: I'm not calling out Bilbo because about three four people
have said this today about JJ McCarthy is ass Okay,
he's played two games. They're not playing for almost two years.
Pump the brakes on that a little bit. He hadn't
looked great, but like, let's let's give this dude a
little bit of time.
Speaker 4: He was confused yesterday, but it could be. To your point,
he hadn't played in two years. You could tell Kevin
O'Connell his head coaches like you. You could read his lips.
He said you can't do that, ye to him twice
when he came back to this sideline. You can't do that,
and you can't like, you can't throw those Hey, you
know the guy's cover, but it's you know, college football.
Let me throw it to my guy, who'll go make
a play. Yeah, the NFL. The other guy's gonna make
that play.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: You can't all shocks it forever too, Like, you gotta
grow up. You gotta grow fast if you're starting quarterback
for a contender which is supposed to be a contender.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I'm laughing at Bilba. You kay Taylor Sonic in
two hours.
Speaker 7: Else?
Speaker 2: Yeah, call him out anyway. I feel like, yeah, Pinix, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, yeah he is. I don't know how many.
Speaker 8: Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 3: Contract here. It's amazing that happens Florida front Runner did yeah,
Florida front Runner contract here, Well we got right.
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of us in this room
probably say Georgia Tech Clemson. Oh yeah, I think we
were pretty heavy on Georgia Tech in this room.
Speaker 6: I don't know if we made a pick man. I
took them on the under because I thought they chilled
Clemson's off.
Speaker 3: I think we talked about it.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if we talked about it, but
I know for sure, all of us in the room together,
we're like, yeah, George Tech.
Speaker 7: So I had some side bets going, and I had
Vandy money line, so also had Crawford.
Speaker 3: We own decision. You went against your guy, you had,
you had your feelings.
Speaker 7: I had to Yeah, that was like a bad matchup.
As soon as they announced it.
Speaker 3: We over and off campus.
Speaker 4: I told you, we do like the meathead moneyline parlay
where it's just like you got to pick an underdog.
It's got to be at least three points and you
take the money line and we parlay them all together. Oh,
we almost hit and it was mine the miss Georgia Tech,
Vandy Delaware, Old Dominion, West Virginia. And then I picked
Jacksonville State against Georgia Southern.
Speaker 3: They were up all game long and lost in the
fourth quarter. That's a that's a sick right there. That's
the second that's the second week in a row that
five of six if hit. Dang, we went to for two,
were still got to win record it went one for three.
Speaker 6: Wait what yeah, because you picked over, you picked the
you picked the over. It did not It was thirty
one seven. I think the over n there was forty
eight and a half.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oregon was up like that was the worst one,
thirty four points in the fourth quarter and then here
comes Northwestern.
Speaker 3: They score two touchdowns in the fourth quarter and the.
Speaker 6: Spread was twenty one and a half. Oregon won by twenty.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, Wow. We were close, guys. We
fought really almost got a lot of good tries out there,
like the Saints.
Speaker 2: We almost got. I do have a thing that a
mom that I was definitely.
Speaker 3: Right on DJ Lagway.
Speaker 5: I think I give a little quarterback break on Friday,
and I said I probably should have set out with
my chest a little bit more excited. But I don't
like to piopo on people. I was like watching films
like I don't think he's very good, like I don't.
I mean he does some good things. Yeah, Mechanically he's a.
Speaker 3: Little bit off.
Speaker 2: His foot works a little bit slow.
Speaker 5: And before Team O TV in our preseason SEC quarterback ranks,
we had him at mid r I.
Speaker 6: Wanted to put him in unproven, and everybody in the
chat freaked out.
Speaker 7: Yet we put on unproven.
Speaker 6: I think should have been there as well. The guy
had twelve touchdowns nine picks in like eight games year. Well,
I understand the flashes, right, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 4: A true freshman. He played really well against LSU. So
I look, I had so far, I've had that wrong.
I thought DJ was going to be great. I think
that's why we're a team here.
Speaker 6: That was That was a good be my right, And
I think I'm right about another one because they've never
been a believer in Lenora's Sellers. Never seen it. As
far as throwing the football, I don't think Lenora Sellers
can throw the football.
Speaker 2: Well, at least you can throw it physically.
Speaker 3: I don't know he's got there.
Speaker 2: But well, it's the real key statement when you're playing
college football.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of indifferent in college football, a lot
a lot of indifferent and which I kind of love,
like normally, even even like after three weeks, were like, oh, well,
here's the first five teams. Let's talk about everybody else.
I don't we don't have those teams. I think there's
good teams all across. I don't think there's any great
dominant team anywhere right now, anywhere, because the teams that are,
you know, at the top, Like I think Oregon Oregon
is like going to maybe be that, but like I
don't think you've played any for us to be able
to tell you that Ohio State beats Texas. But it's like,
I think there's still some deficiencies with Ohio State. Now
I think they can be that, but right now I
don't have them as like a untouchable elite. Penn State
hadn't played anybody, I mean literally nobody, Like I mean Miami, Miami.
Miami might be the one with the you know, the
best eye test.
Speaker 7: Right now, they look really good.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm saying that Notre Dame game. They look
good too.
Speaker 7: Yea's a little closer than the Miami game was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Marcel Reese se make a little Hesman push too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we'll give you the updated ap top twenty
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Speaker 1: For today, from players to Legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown
LSU football like only champions can What this?
Speaker 3: Rex walm Steve.
Speaker 8: Living on the house.
Speaker 6: Up Mouse, All's up?
Speaker 5: God time got me? All right, welcome back here off
the bench. We just got presented with an amazing quarterback
stat from this past weekend.
Speaker 3: We're talking.
Speaker 5: We left last segment talking about the Vikings versus the Falcons.
Speaker 3: How good? Pannis like?
Speaker 5: How not great? JJ McCarthy. Well, he's still trying to
figure things out, but we had a quarterback ranking here
a passer rating JJ McCarthy. This is per bettm GM
on Twitter. JJ McCarthy's passer rating versus the Falcons thirty
seven point five, which is not great. JJ McCarthy's passer
rating if he just spiked the ball on every single
pass attempt thirty nine point six. So if he just
spiked it in the ground, he would have had a
higher passer rating than if he was just played the
game like you did, pretty brutal.
Speaker 3: Not good. That ain't good. It's kind of like when
you take that.
Speaker 5: I know, we take Louisianas, you'll take the ACT, but
in Texas we took the SAT and you got like
four hundred points just for like spelling your name correctly. Yeah,
pretty much like the baseline there. Did you get those points?
I got a few of them. I didn't know they
wanted the full name of Matthew. Ah, that's and I
just put See I put my initial middle name instead
of the whole thing.
Speaker 3: That's all me.
Speaker 5: Would have been a perfect score if I would have
done that. Yeah, So what do you think about that?
If jj MC, For one, the QBR passer rating system
is pretty flawed. If you can just spike it the
ground to have a zero.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess because you didn't turn it over.
But still, yeah, how is it not of a zero?
It's just got to be a zero.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's bring it back to something that's relevant to
our listeners here. Spencer Ratler's played much better than a
lot of these high profile quarterbacks that we talk about
a lot. Yeah, and again, I know he's not the
best in the league. I'm not saying he is, but
he is playing well enough for you to win football
games and you like that. That's a good defense you
played against yesterday too, So look, I don't know what
you want to do for the future. We were talking
about during the break, and I think it was the
Launder and Tat that brought it up, Like tank for what, quarterback,
tank for who? And if you do it again, you
want to draft a young quarterback and kind of start
over again. If you want to bring in a vetter,
if there's a there's a veteran, if there's a veteran
out there, Okay, Like I don't know who's who's up
and who's a free agent right now. You have those conversations,
but like, the quarterback is not the reason you're not
winning games, and you're oh and two right now, mm hmm.
There's some other deficiencies on this team that outweigh the
quarterback play.
Speaker 7: Let's go yea, they should have got roma donsay.
Speaker 3: Your where go?
Speaker 8: Yeah they they.
Speaker 3: I guess, And so we said, like the quarterback was
not going to be the issue.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you are taking for anything, which taking to
me is still not real, you have to get a
number one receiver. Now, maybe you get that in free agency,
but you got to put pieces in place together to
make New Orleans Saints a desirable destination for free agents. Like,
nobody wants to come to the Saints right now. You're
starting over. You got young quarterbacks, you don't have the
offensive line, you got like all these deficiencies you got,
you got veterans playing their ass off. You have that,
so you have some sort of culture from that. You
got veteran culture there. I think you have a really
good head coach and a good offensive mind. But if
you are a top number one receiver right now, like
the top at any position, it's not a desirable destination
to have to start over.
Speaker 3: So you do kind of have to build through the draft.
Speaker 5: So like you got to get a receiver, Well, I
put three quarterbacks, young quarterbacks on a roster. No, it
doesn't make any sense, Like you have to put pieces
in place, Like if you want to go and get
a top quarterback again, all right, let's let's just kick
another three four years down the road.
Speaker 7: I'm absolutely not interested at all in drafting another quarterback,
even though if it's nuts and Doug nux Smeyer's the
quarterback coach and everything, and I just like I'm I
have zero interest in that there's actual pieces on that
roster that you need.
Speaker 5: Now, if Rattler was playing like trash right maybe and
then he's already bench and Shuck's playing like trash like that,
that's another conversation.
Speaker 3: That's not the issue.
Speaker 5: Even known Rattler hater Nick Underhill contribute this show has
even been forced to say he's playing good. I think
I'm trying to find it on Twitter. I can't find it.
Speaker 4: Why you're looking it up right now? Currently QBR, who's
Spencer Ratler? Have a better QBR then Caller Murray, Joe Burrow,
Russell Wilson, Sam Darnold, C J. Stroud, Trevor Lawrence, Aaron Rodgers,
Bo Nicks, Justin Fields, Jaydon Daniels, Joe Flacco, Bryce Young,
Tua tongue about low with JJ McCarthy and cam Ward.
Speaker 6: So I mean that pretty much put out of the league.
Speaker 3: He's right now, He's he's eighteenth.
Speaker 6: Okay, so almost middle of the room.
Speaker 4: So again, like we're not saying that like Spencer Rattler
is like top five in the NFL right now. We're saying,
like he is playing well enough for you to win
football games. You got some veteran players that are out
there playing their butts off. You've got some winning pieces
in a winning formula, but you do need some guys.
Speaker 3: Got to have help.
Speaker 4: Sheiver interior offensive line, like, you gotta have some guys
step up, Like Jawn Johnson.
Speaker 3: Played great at the end, but guess what, we play
four quarters in this league. Great for four quarters.
Speaker 6: I think it was out to the second preseason game.
Matt got in here early. I was setting up the studio.
He was like, Hey, good news is both quarterbacks looked
really good. It was like, bad news is it doesn't
matter which one of them plays. They're gonna suck either
way because they have so many deficiencies on this team.
Speaker 5: Chowing up just gotta he's gotta have some help. Jawan
Johnson helped him on that. He got a great catch,
but he heard it, but he heard him as well,
a lot of it. You gotta help him on that
poster on the end zone. It's behind him his back, shoulders,
back hip. Catch the ball just like, yeah, no one's
even thinking about the accuracy of Pence Rallery. If you
just catch the ball that every single number one wide
receiver in the NFL catches nobody control.
Speaker 4: And again like when you're a pass catching tight end
Juwan Johnson, we expect you to catch the pass, right because, like,
run blocking is not what where you thrive. Like we
could bring up the grades, but y'all already know his
run blocking grades with watching the tape with your own
two eyes. I don't have to give it to you.
You know what it is when I throw you a
dime in the end zone to tie up the game potentially,
like yeah, got it, Like you gotta come up with
that catch. So like again, like I'm not saying Spencer's
been perfect by any means, but he's playing winning football.
But you got to make winning plays for him. The
plays that those two plays that we're talking about, like
those are winning plays.
Speaker 3: You don't make them, you lose games.
Speaker 4: You make them with your quarterback kind of set you
up for certainly the Juwan Johnson one, that's a winning throw.
Speaker 5: If Juwan Johnson catches that pass last week, we can
play this some butts and whatever.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 5: If Johanka Johnson catches that pass and a Love catches
that passes, we're talking we're talking about a top ten
QBR in the league right now with those two catches.
True again, like a top ten QBR Now I get it. Yeah,
we want to push the ball down the field. Be
more aggressive. That's all it comes to play. Calm, But
guy's gotta get open too, and you got a block
long enough for them to run down there to.
Speaker 4: Get You've got so much draft capital in this offensive front,
like so much, all all of it.
Speaker 3: All right, we gotta take a break. We're long for
a break. We'll do it now, TV off the bench, Cutch.
What does that sound, Matt.
Speaker 5: It's a sound of a popping the top on the
dough sequis one dose equis are two at the same time,
just because you're going for dose and then you're passing
out the other one.
Speaker 3: You either do the double stack in one hand or
just double fested.
Speaker 4: Hopefully you enjoyed the tailgate this weekend. Look at the weather.
It's warm, pretty warm out there.
Speaker 3: What cools you off? A little ice cold dough Sechie.
Speaker 4: So walking around campus, it was so good to see
the tens up, see the generators out, see the TV's going,
and seeing the ice cold dose sequis in hand. We
were walking right down the street, right kind of across
from Tiger Park, and we had a tailgate and the
guy's a hesta.
Speaker 3: I look over there. He just holds up a dose second.
Yeah he does, just holds it up, and uh you
should as well go for dose.
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, if it's a football season, when it's beer thirty,
what better beer to grab than a dose second? Is
that ice cold, delicious Mexican longer with a cold slice line?
Come on, somebody, go for dose dose seqis.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in two B. No, honestly yesterday
and I know we're look yeah on us. That's on me?
Uh what say it?
Speaker 4: I never thought that, you know, a Mac Jones Spencer
Rattler game would be as good of quarterback play.
Speaker 3: As we saw yesterday. Though, must admit that I'll sing
I sink the game. I was singing that game is
gonna be twelve to nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah you were thinking like Mahomes Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4: Nope, Nope, Mac Jones Spencer Ratler was the better quarterback game.
Speaker 2: What how fun is that? NFL? Crazy man? Crazy?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: So when we come back in our number three, but
you're crazy weekend winners here on No.
Speaker 2: Two B.
Speaker 3: Off the bench,