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Speaker 1: And Jenny and I are joined via phone by Grizzy Hendrix.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Yo, Yo, what's the worry you are y'all doing?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Good? Good good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you couldn't be here with us live in studio,

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but it's good to talk to you via phone.

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Speaker 4: Work.

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Speaker 1: Are you in Boston right now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I'm in Boston right now.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: You have a whole show tonight the Lord You and

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friends part of Jim Jones's artist I went Brockton Loves

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in Boston and she I'll pull ups and be a vibe.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. Now, tell us about yourself because you are

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obviously you know you're a musician, but you also do

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you host a radio show and podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically my you know, for everybody. I don't

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know why you are in you know you favor Old

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g hounshow represent Talk of the Town. I am the

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CEO of Talking to Town six and seven podcast. I

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used to do music, but I stopped doing music and

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more so and you know, going showcases and you know,

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being the pop ups for local businesses, you know, and

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that's basically know basically mean now they see st showcases,

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let artists come on the stage. You know, you know,

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do what they do, showcase their craft, and you know

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that fun doing it.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm curious what is it that caused you to

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make that switch, because, like you said, you used to

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do music, but now you're you're instead of creating your

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own music, you're more interested. It sounds like you're just

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more interested in helping other artists. Was there something specific

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that precipitated you kind of shifting your focus over to

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helping others?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just felt like there was so many artists

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out here and not enough help. There was like, there's

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a lot of artists out here, but there's not enough

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people that's out here, don't showcases for these artists to

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come out right perform and you know, do what they

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love to do. So I just felt like I wanted

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to make that switch. Instead of being the artist, I'll

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be the person that you know, provide the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, excellent? And how long has Talk of the

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Town existed? How long have you been doing that show?

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Speaker 2: Three years? And now three years? We just celebrated our

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university with my god Charlie Clips, So it's been three

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years now.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations. Yeah, and now where can people hear that?

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Speaker 2: You could find us at on Instagram, I talked to

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Town six one seven or on YouTube. We just dropped

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our new episode with Charlie Clips. I talked to Town

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six one seven on YouTube as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh very cool. Yeah, Charlie Clips. His name came up

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on the show recently. I think it was when Jenny

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Who did we have on the show? Who was talking

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about Charlie Clips? You remember?

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Speaker 2: No? Was it? Oh?

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Speaker 1: It might have been mister Goodbars because we're talking about

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battle Rop.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's who was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was mentioning Charlie Clips. Yeah.

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So what do you do on Top of the Town?

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Is it an interview or do they perform or how

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does that work?

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Speaker 2: So on the podcast, we I basically interview everybody, interview artists,

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celebrity says, had stylists, whatever you do. Basically I done

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probably covered and interviewed. I also do like food reviews,

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restaurant reviews. I do a little you know, tricky trippy episodes.

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I then did a stream episode before, so you know,

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it's it's basically all content type. Think like we just

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shot the Poppya balloon, the fond Love episode, so that's

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dropping real soon. So it's basically like you know, everything

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that you could think of, but mainly podcasting. Yeah, there's

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different channels, but mainly podcasting.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And how often does it come out? Is it

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weekly or you've got a lot going on every week?

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kind of blown up where you just got a lot

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of traffic? Have you had anything that went viral, any

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particular interviews that people don't seem really interested in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we had a few. We had the episode

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with uh Charlie CLIs will close. You have the episode

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with Bobby Schmurder. We had one episode, the Shoom episode

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that went viral. We are I am. Yeah, we have

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one episode when a guy came on his eight strict

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marijuana like he just ate week like it was it

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it gets it gets crazy, like it gets real crazy.

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But my favorite episode, I tell everybody this had to

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be the part one with Missiana Bean from BT. She

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was the first one to show me nothing but the

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utmost love and she came on for part two and

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then he's just been walked in ever since. So that's

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, and where do you do it? Where do

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you do you have a do you record these in

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a podcast studio or are you out and about remotely

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or how does that work?

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Speaker 2: So I have my business partner, he shout out to

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my guy and anybody that needs a studio. When y'all

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come to mask and she's happening with Undeniable Sound, he

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literally does everything everything, okay, recording to you know, to editing,

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to videos to all of that. He actually shot. He

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shot all of my episodes for my podcast, so tapping

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with him Underniable Sound. He's in my bio, He's under

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every video in my YouTube. So Undeniable Sound, Undeniable stamd

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Speaker 1: Taking fly Oh that's cool. Does he work with other

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podcasters as well?

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Speaker 2: He can, but he mainly works with me because you know,

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we that's my business partner. So yeah, and he's he's

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also an artist as well, So any like any showed

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that I have, y'all probably haven't seen him on to

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Speaker 1: Flyers, so oh, very cool, very cool. And where are

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you from?

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Speaker 2: I'm from Dorchester, Boston, Mass Dorchester born and raised, grew

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was born in Boston. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Jenny was born in Boston too. Yeah, uh.

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Speaker 2: Had a connection.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. How is uh how's the hip

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hop scene changed there over the years. I'm a little

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you know, I I I talked to a lot of

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hip hop artists from from up here, but not really

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too many from Boston. I don't know what, at least

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not lately, has the scene changed. Is it more competitive

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than it used to be?

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say more competitive. I always there's more on

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the map. He got more people that's taken a craft

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series that's actually going and dropping not even weekly like

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they'll drop every two d's. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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So it's just like I wouldn't say it's more competition.

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they're hungry and just showing that they basically got that

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talent in the city.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I was curious because one of the things

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that we talked about a lot on this show, it's

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really a recurring subject, is how the Internet and how

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social media has changed everything and how it affects the

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music industry. And you know, hip hop artists tend to

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be very prolific. You know, there's a lot of you

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it out immediately. So and and to kind of to

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be able to promote something, well, let me ask you this,

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so podcast like Talk of the Town, how did you

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what was your strategy in terms of promoting that. You're

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obviously successful with it. You've had some some pretty big

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guests and and you're getting a lot of traffic with

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it and podcasting. You know, there's a lot of competition.

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What's been your strategy to really put that out there

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and to have the success that you've had.

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Speaker 2: Being outside, literally being outside at every event that you

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could think of, even if it's not my event. I

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make sure me and my brother the outside. We have

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the cameras you do interviews or artists, but we just

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do random interviews just you know, just to catch some content.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, this is.

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Speaker 2: Being outside showing support to others, you know, and hopefully

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getting the support back. You know what I'm saying, because

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that's one thing I will say out here there is

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a lack of support, but we're fixing that. We're getting

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we're getting better with that. So yeah, I was just

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say being outside and just being being present.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're out there putting the work in, that's for sure,

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and that's what it takes. Yeah, it's like you know,

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in the music industry, a lot of people get into it,

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whether it's as an artist or you know, or or

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doing something else, and they and they think it's going

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to be easy, and they think if they put something

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to them, and it's really you know, you have to

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put the work in, you have to build, and that's

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exactly what you're doing. So I commend you.

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Speaker 3: Has the has the.

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Speaker 1: Podcast changed over the three years? Has it kind of evolved?

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Is it or or or has it kind of stayed

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the same in terms of what the original concept was.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it definitely evolved. My very first episode, My

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Boston as well, so you know, it definitely evolved. Now

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you could tell the difference from there to now. You

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can see how like I wasn't as confident back then.

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I really want to do this, but now you can tell, like,

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this is what I want to do. So it definitely

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has evolved with me, evolved in my personality, evolved with

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the content and the way I create the content, you know,

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and my different idea is so at first there was

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I'm literally covering all types of content that will, you know,

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either make you laugh, you know, make you sit down

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and think, or whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 1: So right, right, No, that's excellent. Is everything available online?

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Is the entire three years? If people want to go

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back and kind of go through the archive, Is everything

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up and available?

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep. You can go right on top of the

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Town six one seven on YouTube there on ig So

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it was my very first post and just scroll up. Excellent,

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you'll see the evolution.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. And I think, did we meet you through

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our friend Hope the rapper? Is that how we met you?

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Speaker 2: Yes? No, yes, yes, that's my brother right there yet

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him performing August twenty third for my birthday bash with

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Charlie clips x case. He will be hitting the stage.

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He shall hold the rapper.

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Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very yeah, he's amazing. We love him.

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Has he been on I assume he's been on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Now he hasn't. He hasn't been an episode yet. Surprisingly,

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he's been on about about eighty of my showcases, but

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never on the podcast. That's kind of crazy. Oh no,

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you gotta make that happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm surprised. Something to look forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get you, got to get you

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we would love it. Definitely, count us in definitely.

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we know that we have a lot of people in

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the music industry who listen to our show. But but

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for people who don't know what exactly is a showcase

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and how is that different from a regular show.

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Speaker 2: So a showcase is basically you can get I like

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gathering artists. So I probably do about ten to fifteen

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houris on my lineups to get everybody the opportunity of

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whatever the case may be, so you know, they let

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them come up whether they want to perform seven minutes.

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the comfortability of whatever the case may be. And you know,

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they come up, they do they they do, they think.

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So if you're an artists out there, if you make music,

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you ever you've never been on the stage, you never performed,

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but you've always been looking to get on the stage.

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You're always looking at perform. Let us know we're actually

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about to start the tour on the day counted this

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out tour the start in September twenty seventh out in

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the bowl at Smokehouse. So make sure y'all tap in.

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You got a lot of opportunity for a lot of artists. Podcasts,

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you're trying to work. Let's work. Anybody's trying to work.

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Speaker 1: Let's just work and the tour. How many dates are

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Speaker 2: I believe ten for the first way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so we'll.

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Speaker 2: Basically we're book from September up until this no November,

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late November, then we'll take it December. You know, we're

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going to start the second leg of the tour in

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late January.

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Speaker 1: Oh outstanding? Yeah, very cool, very cool? Is that that

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must be challenging to manage, right, A showcase where you've

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got where you've got that many artists on it. I mean,

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is it difficult to kind of keep everybody organized and

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make sure they get enough time and all that? Is

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that a challenge to pull that off?

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Speaker 2: Definitely? Definitely, because people are showing up from black people,

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turn people are showing up link it by we we

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some people only got the venue from eight to te like,

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so many time we'd be having a venue till like

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one o'clock and people like showing up at tin. We

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got to crunch up seven minutes to ten minutes you have,

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you know what I'm saying, And I host the show.

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So it was just like you gotta over the time.

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first couple of times, you're going to be like geeesh, yeah,

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come on time a little barely R.

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Speaker 1: No, I can I can relate to that because so

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I don't do it currently. But I used to promote

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a lot of shows and sometimes we would have you know,

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we would have full bands, but we would have five,

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four or five bands in a night on a show

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and uh yeah, if somebody, if somebody was late, or

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if somebody, you know, they got to the venue, you know,

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of the band would be there on time, but not

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everybody could be there on time. Maybe somebody was getting

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out of work late or whatever. You know, which happen happens,

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and you just have to make the best of it.

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But it can be really stressful. So I can only

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imagine what it's like when you've got a showcase of

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that many different artists and trying to do you do

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you have like a list, like do you try to

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do you try to map it out ahead of time?

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Who's gonna go on when? Or does it kind of

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go by who shows up when, and then you just

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kind of slot them in in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Neither Actually, I go by off the vibe of the crowd.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, you know.

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Speaker 2: Some artists have, you know, upbeat music. Some artists have

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R and B music. You don't want to put on

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the artists with like drill music and then put on

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the artist that singing right after, you know what I mean.

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So it's like you just got to me personally, I

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just go with the vibe of the crowd. I go

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with the vibe of the art the vibe of the

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artists and who the type of music they make or whatever,

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because I know when it comes to my playlist, like

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when I'm like listening to music, if I'm listening to rap,

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I like slowly transition into R and B. Me if

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I'm listening to R and B, I'm slowly transitioned into rap.

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So that's how I try to keep it for.

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Speaker 1: The Well, oh that makes sense. That's interesting. I like

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that approach. That's uh, that's that's really cool. Now at

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these showcases, have you seen Are there specific artists who

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have participated in these showcases who then you've seen go

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on to uh to be really successful either locally or regionally,

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or or any any success stories that we should know about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, there's this Every artist that I would say

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have been on my lineups, been on my lineup consistently,

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that you would say been on my lineups more than like, hope,

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he've been on my line up probably one than twenty times.

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I haven't been over I think almost three hundred showcases now,

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I'm not like to eighty seven, I believe, So it's

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just like over the over the three years, so he

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been on a lot of them. So I think any

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any person that I consistently put on my lineup I

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know for sure is gonna take off. And I know

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for sure they mean business and they actually mean what

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they what they You know, they work ethic, right, they

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work crafts, so they mean you know, some people don't

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Somemorrros don't understand. You got to put money behind you yourself.

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You feel what I'm saying to Mars don't understand. So

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tomorrows think that you just can get everything handed to

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them or wherever the case may be, just because they

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know they're nice. No, don't go like that. It's like

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it's like a once in the blue moon that goes

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like that. You feel what I'm saying. So right, That's

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basically why I'm at with it. Many artists I put

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on my line up persistently. That shows me that they're

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here's about their work ethic and network in their craft.

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Then I know they're gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh excellent, excellent. All right, So tell us again,

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Well actually two things. Let me ask you this first,

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because I want to make sure our listeners know exactly

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where to find the podcast. And yeah, so just remind

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everybody is it is it YouTube?

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Speaker 3: The best place to go for it?

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Speaker 2: Yep. YouTube is the best place to go for the podcast.

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I want to see some funny reels. Go to our ig.

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Both are talking at Talk of the Time six one.

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Speaker 1: Seven, Okay, okay, cool? And uh tell us again about

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the show tonight because we want to make sure for

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people who are listening live that they know about it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, so we got vamp Wife's own, Jim Jones own,

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Boston's very own. Lord you coming to Brockton for the

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Lord's You and French Part two. We have a bunch

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of artists from all over coming in performing. We actually

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have one arts that flew in this morning, so it's

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gonna be crazy. Makes she y'all pull up? It's twenty

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at the door. Lord, You've never disappointed. She's been going crazy.

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We just got off to a word not too long ago,

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and she always shuts the stage down. She always brings

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the vibe, so he's not gonna want to miss it.

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Lord You Want Friends? Part two at sound webs Doors Open.

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Speaker 1: That nine pretty excellent. Hey, By the way, are there

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a lot of venues to do what you do? Are

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there a lot of hip hop venues available these days?

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Or that has that changed? I know a lot of

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places have kind of come and gone. But what's the

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current state of that.

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Speaker 2: Nah, there is, there's a few, there's there's definitely a

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lot of venues. I'll let you come in and do

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what you gotta do. Good good, But there's also a

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lot of venues that you know, you just got to

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follow the guyne Yeah, you know me, Sona should be

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perfectly fine with people that I just want to come

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in and you know, built the establishment up and built

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the you know, the resume when it comes to the showcases.

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So definitely is a lot of venues and a lot

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of opportunities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. That's good to hear. Very good. All right,

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well listen, Grizzy Hendricks, thank you so much for joining us.

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I'm sorry we didn't get to talk in person, but

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I'm sure we'll be able to make that happen in

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the future. Good luck with the show tonight. I'm sure

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it's gonna go great and the tour and the showcases.

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Love what you're doing, and we will talk again soon,

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I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, y'all both are invited. August twenty third, I'm

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gonna send you you guys taking some yll pull up

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August third my birthday past which Hardy clips. Everybody that's

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listening to make sure y'll pull up is going to

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be a the outside once again. Thank y'all again.

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Speaker 1: All right, Grizzy Hendrix, thank you so much. Man. Take care.

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That's sir, all right, bye bye, all right, very nice.

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So sorry we didn't get to talk to him in person,

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but Grizzy Hendricks, he's doing great things in the hip

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hop scene down there, and I think what we'll do.

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I think we're gonna play Club Paradise. Yeah, I'm gonna

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play one more club Paradise song because I love these

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guys we talked to them earlier. I'm just I want

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to make sure I play the There's one particular one

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that really stood out to me. But now I'm it's

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like I lost it somehow. Trying to find it again here,

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I accidentally, uh closed I closed the tab that I

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did not want to close, and now I am regretting

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that I closed that particular tab. Yes, yes, and uh

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but that's okay. It's only live radio. Okay, I think

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I found it, oh neighborhood, Yes here it is. I

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found it. So we're gonna play. If you're just joining

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us Club Paradise was the band that skyped in from

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the UK in the first hour and really loved talking

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with them, and they did send us a couple of

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great tracks to play, but we're playing even more than

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what they sent us because we love this band that much.

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So we're gonna play another one of those. This is

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called Neighborhood from Club Paradise, and then we've got plenty

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more to come. Don't go away.

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Speaker 6: You know he made me feel light about there.

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Speaker 7: You can like when y'all stand.

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Speaker 8: The fount my fad cant my ice clos Hello, still

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Heaven sakes me home?

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Speaker 6: And I would sing no loader.

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Speaker 7: Out, sing the.

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Speaker 6: Song favorite songs to South seen fo out, singing.

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Speaker 9: My stiles coming ca the dusting that stand back, came back,

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stands coming home came harding, trusting, start back.

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Speaker 10: Looking aft the mountains, looking at the dirt track, the

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fine picking fist, see the strongest.

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Speaker 8: Spaceball, the wow those two strolling back football and down

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the streets.

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Speaker 7: An I want to be so and so la.

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Speaker 6: Scene lot in the going for and no scene. It

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is all the strung to soun fulling.

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Speaker 9: Home, I trusting and stop a deep back. I was

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trying home a tack deep Bunny jumps the bay stop

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deep bu.

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Speaker 7: Bu the.

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Speaker 9: Stop shout to its king by SAMs and the chair

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the space that was the cold level to not take

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it's more back skinned of the truth, gave the.

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Speaker 7: Time and the game resignable.

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Speaker 6: Game it up.

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Speaker 9: I was turning home by attack on the jus got

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to start back.

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Speaker 6: I was talking that stop, but.

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Speaker 9: I was talking about about.

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Speaker 7: Stop.

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Speaker 6: I was talking just stop, but came back.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 11: Want you say you're talking about your assic can men, you.

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Speaker 7: Made one mistake.

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Speaker 11: Listen of the constant confident you leave in.

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Speaker 7: Hal fall back with your help.

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Speaker 12: Fancy you phooting yourself to the grown.

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Speaker 7: Take your time.

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Speaker 4: When you jumping to the lance.

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Speaker 7: Side whisnal tide.

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Speaker 11: You fall your falling Wow, you not want to break

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until you get over your head.

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Speaker 1: You're trowing the came.

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Speaker 7: Not saying you.

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Speaker 12: Can't try talking univation gone where when your complex your

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bass are crashing to the ground.

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Speaker 7: Take your time.

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Speaker 12: When you jumping to the fire wisdom time the fall wake,

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Take your time to shie. That's a stamp across the

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land line.

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Speaker 6: Drifting in your world up sending your f.

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Speaker 9: Your far nowhere, Try to wait to away, make the

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best of every day, to waste the way.

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Speaker 7: Out of the day. Let's rise. Say take your time.

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Speaker 6: When you jumping to the.

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Speaker 7: Wisdom you fall, take your sun.

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Speaker 12: Lets you stand across stand mine, drifting in your world.

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Speaker 7: I send you fun no fun words words.

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Speaker 9: Following the word.

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Speaker 1: That is world of zen. That is from day to Attend.

477
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And if you happen to be watching live on on

478
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social media, I am wearing my day to Attend shirt.

479
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And we had those guys in our chat room. Hopefully

480
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they're still there. But I love that track. Of course

481
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we had them on the show. What was it two

482
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weeks ago? I lose track. I think I think it

483
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was two weeks ago. Yeah, great, great band. And and

484
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before that, we played a track called Neighborhood from Club

485
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Parent And if you're just joining us, Club Paradise was

486
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,880
with us via Skype from the UK during the first hour.

487
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That's not one of the songs. That's the one I

488
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was trying to. I was getting them all mixed up

489
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in my head. That's not one of the two tracks

490
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they sent us to play, But I listened to that

491
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one and I don't even have the words for how

492
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,759
much I love that song. That is so catchy that

493
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:24,799
that should be. That should be an international hit song.

494
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If there were any justice in the world, it would

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be I Love That. I'm gonna listen to that again

496
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and again and again. Not right now, obviously we have

497
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a show to do. But yes, if you are just

498
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joining us, of course, this is Matt Connorton Unleashed and

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we are live from the studios of w m NH

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ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire.

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As we cruise into our final segment today on the program,

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I want to remind you all of something. Of course,

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one week from today, August seventeen, I will be at

504
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the Sister Witch Company for an event. The event starts

505
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at noon. I won't be there at noon, be getting

506
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there till two pm of course because of the radio show.

507
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But but you should show up at noon because they

508
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have great stuff going on, a gritting class, a healing

509
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circle and hypnotherapy which I will be providing when I

510
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arrive there. But the event is from noon to five

511
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pm and that is going to be at the Sister

512
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Witch Company one week from today, so you can check

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that out. And Jenny has something that is ongoing with

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your art at.

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Speaker 4: The Nashua Creatives Collective. I have twelve of my pieces

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on display Midnight Creatives collect Midnight Creatives Collective. What did

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I say, Nashua. Yes, it's in that Nashua Midnight Yes, yes,

518
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forgive me, please forgive me. Yes, I have twelve of

519
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my darkest paintings actually, yes, up there, and they're up

520
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for the entire month. Yes, which is amazing. Absolutely yep

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in nerve wrecking. Yes, you wonder like people are looking

522
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at them.

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Speaker 6: They like it.

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Speaker 1: You've had not like it. You've had your art shown before,

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like at the Mosaic, Yes, Creative Collective. Hopefully I'll be

526
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back there again too. Yes, yes, right here in Manchester

527
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Mosaic is. They're amazing, But this is the first time having.

528
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Speaker 4: Like twelve painting well painting. Yes, I've had a painting

529
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up on a wall, but no, not twelve paintings up

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on wall.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty intense to have so many pieces, yeh,

533
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at once, and it's interesting to looking at them. Never

534
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put all of these pieces together like that before. They're

535
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the darkest paintings I've done thus far that are that

536
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are what I consider presentable. But it was weird to

537
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see them all together and just actually looked really amazing. Yeah,

538
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and then having Dead Harrison playing in the background is

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like bonus.

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Speaker 6: That's so cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, in the video, there's a video.

542
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Speaker 4: Of this if you want to check it out on

543
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my socials. There's a video of all the twelve pieces

544
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that are up and it's Dead Harris and you can

545
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hear playing in the background, which is really really cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And if you missed it last week, we

547
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did have We had Eleanor and Spelfie and of course

548
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Andre who was also in debt Harrison. They were here

549
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with us last week in the third hour talking about

550
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all things Midnight Creatives, Collective and Terminus Underground And definitely

551
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should definitely check that out if you haven't done so already.

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I'll go ahead and give the studio line if anyone

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wants to get in with a call on our next subject.

554
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As we are in our final segment this week six

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oh three two five six seven, six oh three two

556
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five six seven. We did hear from John Hopwit earlier,

557
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which was that that was a nice surprise. Haven't heard

558
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from haven't heard from John and quite some time I

559
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miss but uh, there's another our article here from billboard

560
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dot Com. A new Senate bill could protect artists from

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AI deep fakes. And this is of course part of

562
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our ongoing discussions about AI. We discussed it a lot

563
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,279
on the show, but also the music industry and is

564
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:56,119
having an ongoing discussion about it.

565
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Speaker 5: And uh.

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Speaker 1: This is called the No Fakes Act first intro use

567
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as a draft bill last October. Aims to provide federal

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protection on one's voice and likeness for the first time.

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And this is something you know something about from your

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own experience as a state legislator.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I've worked on this issue specifically.

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Speaker 1: It says here. A bipartisan group of US senators introduced

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the highly anticipated No Fakes Act on July thirty one,

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which aims to protect artists and others from AI deep

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fakes and other non consensual replicas of their voices, images,

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and likeness. If passed, the legislation would create federal intellectual

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property protections for the so called right of publicity for

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the first time, which restricts how someone's name, image, likeness,

579
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and voice can be used without consent. Currently, such rights

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are only protected at the state level, leading to a

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patchwork of different rules across the country. Unlike many existing

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state loss systems. The federal right, Yes, the federal right

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that the No Fail Act would create would not expire

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at death and could be controlled by a person's heirrs

585
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for seventy years after their passing. The balance personal publicity rights,

586
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I'm sorry, to balance personal publicity rights and the First

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Amendment right to free speech. You No Fakes Act also

588
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includes specific carve outs for replicas used in news coverage, parody,

589
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historical works, or criticism. Now, yes, yeah, tell us about

590
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the uh your experience with the bill about r JD. Salinger?

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Speaker 4: Right, So this in the article one hundred percent correct.

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The laws are patchwork across the nation. Here in New Hampshire,

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as an artist, you have the right to protect your

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image and your likeness until you die. The moment that

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you did, you have no protections anymore, nor does your family.

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Nobody can control that or take ownership over your likeness.

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It becomes fair game. So what happened in New Hampshire

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is JD. Salinger's family has tried to protect his image.

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You know, Catcher in the Rye, famous American author. And

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there's a place, it's like a store or something that's

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near where the Salinger family it has been in New

602
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Hampshire and they put JD. Salinger's face on toilet paper

603
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something wasn't too happy about that. I don't blame him,

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but they were putting dad's face on things that weren't

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very respectable and they weren't happy about it, and they

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wanted to have control over their dad's image. But New

607
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Hampshire law didn't allow it. So the effort was to

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change the law to allow that to happen, because it

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does exist in many, many, many other states. California, it's

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one hundred years, so it's that patchwork. So when I

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say years, I'm talking about when you die. So you

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are a you are a public persona you Matt Connerton

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on this show. In theory, you would have the ability

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to control your image up until the point that you die.

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In some states, when you die, whoever is your bequeathed

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or you're next to kin has the right to continue

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that control over your image, your likeness, your voice for

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a certain amount of time. In legislature, it's usually been

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around lifetime, thinking basically like we want your kids and

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your grandkids to be able to control your image. But

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after that it's been enough, but still allowing for people

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to be criticized or be satired, so narrowing the intent

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of the bill of that control like it is in

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other states. We got a lot of pushback trying to

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do this like this was a huge fight, a bigger

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fight than I ever thought it would be. And I

627
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did manage to get it out of committee and I

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almost got it passed into the law, but the Republicans

629
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on the House side would not have it and trashed

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it because I was in a supermajority at the time

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as a Republican. Mind you, they wanted industries to be

632
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able to utilize people however they wanted to. My argument was,

633
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if you look at the New Hampshire State House, it's

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across the street from an adult store. So I would

635
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give the example of you know, you die and the

636
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next day your kids see your face on an adult

637
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toy in the adult store being advertised in the window.

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How do you feel about that? Should that be allowed?

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Should a pub person's image belong ownership of that image

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belong to the next of kin. I think it should.

641
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I believe it should. You're a public figure, you're making

642
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money off of your image, you have created a brand

643
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of you, and you should be able to becreath that

644
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brand to your next to kin. In my opinion, this

645
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,480
law gets into that because now it has to. Now

646
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we're adding this whole new animal into the mixture of

647
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AI and the ability to mimic people, to pretend to

648
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be people, to convince people that that really is that person.

649
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These deep fakes are pretty bad, Like you really can't

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necessarily tell the difference between one person or another. Take

651
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somebody's image that you love and means the world to

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you and have them say the most horrific things and

653
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have no control over that, or we allow that to

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be controlled. I think you should be able to do that,

655
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and that's what I advocated for, and that's what I

656
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,599
fought for. Unfortunately, the bill died thanks to House Republicans

657
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because the Senate was ready to pass it. The Salinger

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family is very respected in New Hampshire and we usually

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take pride in our in our in our in the

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successes that come out of our state. J. D. Salandra

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is one of the most amazing American writers that is

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known throughout our country and around the world for for

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for his for Catcher and the Rye and his works.

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So you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: About but it gets so these things do get complicated though,

666
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because they do. Because so this happened a few months

667
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ago and we never got to it on the show.

668
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But do you remember the Scarlett Johansson thing. Yes, it

669
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was in the news. Yes, I found an article from

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the Hollywood Reporter. Again, this is from a few months ago.

671
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But Scarlett Johansson's AI legal threat sets stage for actors

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battle with tech giants. So here's what this was about. Artists.

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This is a little bit of a side street, but

674
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it's relevant. So artists were first to sue. Then authors

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hit generative artificial intelligence companies with a value of lawsuits,

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followed by publications. As battle lines over the use of

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AI tools in Hollywood are being drawn, actors maybe the

678
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next group of creators to open another front in what

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would be an industry defining legal battle against AI firms

680
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over the use of copyrighted works and personal data to

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power their human mimicking chat bots. On Monday, and again

682
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this is from the end of May, Scarlett Johansson threatened

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legal action against open ai, which is who created chat GPT,

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for allegedly copying and limiting I'm sorry imitating her voice

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after she refused to license it to the company. According

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to the actress, Open Ai asked her to be one

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of the voices called Sky for its newest AI system.

688
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She declined, though she said that didn't stop chief executive

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Sam Altman.

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Speaker 4: And that's part of it right there, like for example,

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sports heroes in games and making sure that they have

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control over that imaging and that money in a game. Yeah,

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so that's where this legislation.

694
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Speaker 1: But here's here's the problem though. Well, okay, so this

695
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is what she said in her statement, and then I'm

696
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gonna play Devil's advocate as I.

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Speaker 2: Like to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna because this because I when

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I first heard this, I was very skeptical that she

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had a case. Okay, so she wrote in a statement, quote,

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when I heard the released demo, I was shocked, angered,

702
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and in disbelief that mister Altman would pursue a voice

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that sounded so eerily similar to mine that my closest

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friends and news outlets could not tell the difference. Unquote. Okay,

705
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:10,920
here's the problem. So from her perspective, so she feels

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they asked her, she said no, So they just generated

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a voice that sounds.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll go to court and deal with it in court.

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But we got it.

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Speaker 1: But here's the problem. What did they? Does Scarlet Johanson

711
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have such a distinct voice? Is there no one else

712
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who sounds like her? I?

713
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 4: Ah, yeah, come on, now, come on, we want you

714
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,880
to be our voice. We want you to be a voice.

715
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,119
No no, no no no, So we make one up

716
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:36,920
that sounds just like you.

717
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: Come on? If I so? If so, if I go

718
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:45,199
and hear this, am I going to say? Oh, that's

719
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:46,719
Scarlet Johansson?

720
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 4: I mean according to her, she's saying. Yes, she's saying

721
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,920
that news outlet to her. According to her, So who

722
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,599
are these news outlets and did they really feel that

723
00:39:56,679 --> 00:39:59,880
way and contact her? If that is true, then she

724
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:01,480
absolutely has a case.

725
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm very skeptical.

726
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: The thing is even even the Motion Picture Association is

727
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:07,800
getting in behind this bill. And I do want to

728
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,000
say one thing about the bill. Senator Blackburn is on it,

729
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:15,960
who's a Republican, and Senator Clovishar and Senator they so

730
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:22,039
this bill is bipartisan in effort to try and protect artists, athletes,

731
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,280
people who have a public persona from being turned into

732
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,440
some kind of an AI.

733
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:33,679
Speaker 1: Now, and you know I'll always advocate on the side

734
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,719
of artists at the end of the day. But I'm

735
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,920
just saying though from a again, from a practical and

736
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:44,159
pragmatic standpoint. So if somebody sounds like you, now you

737
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,480
can go and suit film.

738
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:49,199
Speaker 4: If this suit if this actually sounds a lot like her,

739
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,519
or sounds like her period after them turn after she

740
00:40:53,880 --> 00:41:01,360
turned them down, that's that's not coincidental, that's not that's intention.

741
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:04,280
But they're gonna get what they wanted because they figure

742
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,159
tied up in court, they get away with it.

743
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: But who they get away with it?

744
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: But who's to say.

745
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:15,039
Speaker 4: Unless she gets a stay of some kind and some

746
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,840
kind of emergency injunction to stop them from using it.

747
00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:21,079
They're getting to utilize it while you're going through court.

748
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,519
Speaker 1: But so this company though, so because that conversation was

749
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:31,880
had with Scarlet Johansson, now, this company can never ever

750
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,000
use any voice that might.

751
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,199
Speaker 4: Sound much like yeah, I'm gonna say yes, see that

752
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,880
to me sounds if it sounds just like her, like

753
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:44,960
you can't tell the difference. No, they shouldn't be able to.

754
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: There's not another actor somewhere who has a voice like her.

755
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,400
What what is so distinct about her?

756
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:55,519
Speaker 4: Voice if it sounds just like her and you can't

757
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:58,760
tell the difference. After they went to her trying to

758
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,119
get usage and she's said, no, I don't know. We

759
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,559
have to put some kind of limitations on a I

760
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,920
or it will run rampant. Where is your line, Where

761
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:10,400
is your line in the stand that you're protecting the artist?

762
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think there's I do think there's

763
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,239
the uh and and this is why I bring this up.

764
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,400
I do think there's the risk of abuse in the

765
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,320
other direction, man, there is, which.

766
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,159
Speaker 4: Is why this, This is why this Yeah, and it's

767
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,639
why these kind of laws are difficult to pass because

768
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:26,280
you do have to narrow the scope because you still

769
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,280
have to allow for perspective, sorry for protected speech. You've

770
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,960
got to allow for there's got to be you know,

771
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,280
we have to be able to have satire of people.

772
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: We have to be able to So that's the right

773
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,639
thing about That's a big thing I'm worried about.

774
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 4: Is that part of But that's been done. It's done

775
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,960
in many places.

776
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:49,039
Speaker 1: Because satirical works are generally protected. And that's already and

777
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:50,480
I'm worried about that no longer.

778
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 4: A lot, but it's already been on the books for

779
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:56,280
for forever, especially in California, there's laws on the books

780
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,480
that protect artists but allow for satire. California, you protect

781
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:03,079
your image for one hundred years after your death. Some

782
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,719
states are seventy five. New Hampshire is no time. New

783
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,400
Hampshire is you're dead, You're done. Your family doesn't get

784
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,000
to control it. You show up in the middle of

785
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,039
some adult stores window too bad, too sad, don't show

786
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:18,760
your kids. I don't like that. I think people should

787
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,679
be able to control their image, their persona, and when

788
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,039
they die that shouldn't just die with them. If they

789
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,440
know you're you are a commodity of your own and

790
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:32,519
you've established this commodity, you get to bequeath that to

791
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,519
whoever you wish and they get to contain that ownership

792
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:38,760
for however many years the law allows. But like our

793
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,519
state doesn't. Our state gives no protection at all when

794
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:48,480
death happens. This law is going waif this law has

795
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:53,159
to happen, this stuff has to happen. AI is exponentially

796
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,320
growing on a daily basis. Let's face it, technology is amazing.

797
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,639
It grows every day. There's good and bad about it.

798
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,480
The ability to mimic someone's image, likeness, voice. There's a

799
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:07,119
lot of danger involved in that. There's a lot of nasty, underground,

800
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:10,119
criminal things that can be done with that, you know.

801
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,599
I mean, I worry about that somebody puts a video

802
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,039
of somebody making it look like they've committed a crime,

803
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:21,159
that person goes to jail. This kind of technology can

804
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:26,440
be so horrifically abused that if we don't put safeguards now,

805
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:28,880
it's going to be too late when it's out of

806
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,280
the box.

807
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:32,599
Speaker 1: For all you know, I might not really be here.

808
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:33,559
I could be a deep fake.

809
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 4: Well I know, because I'm here.

810
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,639
Speaker 1: Oh that's true.

811
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,559
Speaker 4: But the listeners could be listening to too deep fakes.

812
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: They could be listening to an AI generated version of

813
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:42,760
the show.

814
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 4: Maybe we're not here, maybe we're in Aruba.

815
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: I do want to do that sometime. I think it'd

816
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,519
be fun make an AI generated version of the show,

817
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:51,039
just to see what it comes up with. They did

818
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,159
that once on The Howard Stern Show. It's pretty well

819
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,559
the conversation between Howard and Robin and the AI version

820
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:58,800
that they did. It was funny because it was so

821
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,360
it was so it was like, you know, Howard's like

822
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,880
asking Robin, Robin, how was your weekend and Robin's like

823
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,039
mine was good? Howard, how was you know, It's just

824
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:09,519
like a conversation they would never have, but it was

825
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:12,280
like it was the best that the AI could come

826
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:12,559
up with.

827
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 4: There is an organization called their Human Artistry Campaign that's

828
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,760
out there that's actually trying to work on these issues

829
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,280
to protect artists. We're talking about. When you talk about artists,

830
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,440
you talk about everybody. We're talking about music, actors, painters, everyone.

831
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,079
Huh if we I'm serious, Like, so, I want to

832
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:34,840
know from you, Devil's Advocate, where's your line? Where is

833
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,320
it that we are protecting? Where do you put that

834
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,760
line to protect the artists?

835
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I mean that's that's the thing

836
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,760
we're kind of That's what's so fascinating about the subject

837
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,800
to me is it's it's complicated. It's it's complex, and

838
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,679
we're kind of trying to find our way through it. Now.

839
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,719
I do tend to be I might be lenient on

840
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,199
a lot of this, though I might an internal bias

841
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,760
because so you know, I'm a co host on Retrospection

842
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,199
Radio with pol C on Friday nights, and one of

843
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,760
the things that one of the uh if you've never

844
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,159
heard the show. Every week Paul picks a different subject,

845
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:15,519
and one of the subjects that we've done a few

846
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:19,679
times that Paul has shows in his plagiarism where he'll

847
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,800
play a song and then yeah, and then it's a

848
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,960
song where there was some sort of perhaps someone said, hey,

849
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:29,280
they you stole my song. I'm going to sue you,

850
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,400
and there was litigation or the threat of litigation or

851
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,119
just accusations of plagiarism and so forth. Led Zeppelin, by

852
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:39,480
the way, the most plagiaristic band ever. But but when

853
00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:44,000
we're when Paul plays these examples for us, I'm usually

854
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,920
the one in the room who says not guilty. I'm like,

855
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:51,119
I'm the most lenient when it comes to these accusations

856
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:54,039
of plagiarism, because I'm the guy who says, yeah, I

857
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:57,480
know that song sounds like this other song, but that's

858
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:00,719
because it's using a chord progression that is very common

859
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,960
in rock music and shows up in a lot of songs.

860
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,199
I'm the most lenient one. So maybe maybe because I

861
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,280
tend to maybe maybe I have an internal bias that's

862
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,679
making me say, hey, let's be a little bit careful

863
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:15,719
about what we assume but that's different. Is copying something else.

864
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 4: I want to challenge you on that. That's different because

865
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,840
you're comparing what's coming out of a human mind to

866
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,159
a computer pretending to be somebody else.

867
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:28,159
Speaker 1: But what is the same is this is this notion

868
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,639
of copying, this notion of hearing something or reading the

869
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,519
data of something. However you want to think about it

870
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,880
the way a large learning model works machine learning. The

871
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,880
part that's similar is taking something and replicating it in

872
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,400
some way.

873
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 4: True, but without the human element. And that's that's a

874
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,719
big difference. There's the difference between the human being and

875
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:50,599
the computer.

876
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,159
Speaker 1: Well, but it depends on the situation, right, I mean,

877
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:56,000
if I take a if I take somebody else's song

878
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:58,199
and I just basically copy it and I barely change it,

879
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,760
and I've plagiarized it, that's actually worse.

880
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,079
Speaker 4: Than that plagiarism not a deep fake, right No, But.

881
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, that's actually worse than if I

882
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,360
type an AI prompt and I say make a song

883
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,440
that kind of sounds like this.

884
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that is worth because that's a direct right copyright.

885
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,000
Who's the who's the rapper that did that? With David

886
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:24,000
Bowie's song Queen under pressure, who's stole from under pressure

887
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,480
Vanilla Vanilla Ice, that's what it was. Yeah, yep, but

888
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:31,719
see that's that's plagiarism. That's stealing somebody's work.

889
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:36,159
Speaker 1: Well, that's not technically, it's not plagiarism. It's it's a

890
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:39,480
it's ample. It's an uncleared sample. Yeah, because he didn't

891
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,719
ask permission and then he got held over a balcony

892
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,039
by Sugar Knight. It's a whole thing. Geez, we can

893
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:46,719
do a whole show about Vanilla Ice. What a fascinating man.

894
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,159
Speaker 4: This is true. Yes, but you don't want to anger anyone.

895
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: No, that's true. We don't want Sugar Knight to come

896
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,079
and hurt me.

897
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 4: Hang you over or we do have a balcony. Yes,

898
00:48:56,159 --> 00:48:58,320
you could hang you over a balcony by your ankles.

899
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:01,559
Speaker 1: That would be terrible. It's it's a very good I mean.

900
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,519
Speaker 4: I support the effort. I think this bill should pass.

901
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,920
I think it should be law. I think there should

902
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,920
be protections against We have to start. If we don't,

903
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,079
we're already kind of late to the late to the Gamia.

904
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,079
We need these laws on the books like yesterday. Because

905
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:23,760
technology grows and leaps and bounds by the day AI especially,

906
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:27,800
we don't we need we need this stuff now right,

907
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,119
not before before it gets too far out of the bag.

908
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,199
But you know, I'm sorry, but I still I have

909
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,719
to disagree with you on Johanson issue. She was approached,

910
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,039
she was asked, they wanted her, they courted her, she

911
00:49:41,159 --> 00:49:45,599
said no. Then they created something that sounded just like her. Yeah,

912
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,599
I don't, I don't see.

913
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:51,559
Speaker 1: I don't even know, though I would have to hear

914
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:54,800
it and make my own determination to really have an

915
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,440
opinion a hundred, which I have not. It's like with

916
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:02,000
the George Carlin thing. Remember all these guys who made

917
00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:04,400
an AI version of a George Carlin album, a new

918
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,480
George Carlin album. Yeah, And I remember I played a

919
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:12,519
little bit of it on the show, and well, I

920
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:15,400
ended up listening to the entire hour, and I thought

921
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,280
it was good. I actually thought it was funny. And

922
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,760
George Carland's one of my all time favorite Duck comedians,

923
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,280
of course, But but I remember saying to you, Jesse

924
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,639
was with us on the show that day, and I

925
00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:28,880
remember saying, my observation was, you know, yeah, it sounds

926
00:50:29,039 --> 00:50:32,119
a lot like him, but not exactly. And if you

927
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:34,199
were to play this for me, and I'm sure it's

928
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:36,320
still on YouTube. If you don't know what we're talking about,

929
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,920
just look up George Carlin AI. You'll find it and

930
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,360
it's actually funny, like the jokes are good. But I'm

931
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,639
skeptical that it's all AI generated because some of those

932
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,760
jokes don't sound like they could have been generated by AI.

933
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,280
They're actually too clever. But I remember saying to you

934
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,639
and Jesse that if you, if you just played this

935
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,639
for me and said to me, didn't tell me anything

936
00:50:56,639 --> 00:50:58,199
about it, and just said, Matt, who is this comedian?

937
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,400
Do you recognize this? I'm might say it reminds me

938
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,960
of George Carlin, or it kind of sounds like George Carlin.

939
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:07,280
I would not say, oh, that's George Carlin.

940
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 4: Well you guess, because you know he's dead.

941
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: No, no, no, But I'm just saying. I'm saying if

942
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,039
if you, if you just.

943
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:14,079
Speaker 4: Played that for me, you would have pined it out

944
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:14,599
right away and.

945
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: Tell me anything about it. I probably would have said

946
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,599
it reminds me of George Carlin, But I would not

947
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,639
have said that's George Carlin because it didn't sound enough

948
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,639
like him to me. The AI version that's one example.

949
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,360
It is It's just one example. It's anecdotal. But I'm

950
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,440
just saying I would have to hear the the Scarlett

951
00:51:33,519 --> 00:51:37,559
Johanson which is not which is not available. They they

952
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:40,280
took it down, avoided a lawsuit, and all of that.

953
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,320
That's all been saying you.

954
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,599
Speaker 4: In favor or opposed to the legislation.

955
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm generally in favor of protecting artists. I don't know

956
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:52,039
enough about exactly what the legislation is to really have

957
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,599
a firm opinion, but I'm generally in favor of protecting artists.

958
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:57,119
At the end of the day, I will always advocate

959
00:51:57,159 --> 00:51:59,800
on behalf of artists. Having said that, I'm also always

960
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,119
worried about abuse, I will say, and frivolous lawsuits and

961
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:04,440
all of that.

962
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 4: There are a whole host of organizations that agree with you,

963
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,079
that are representing artists. Organizations like the Nashville Songwriters Association

964
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or the Production Music Association, the Recording Academy are all

965
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:21,599
joining together in support of this bipartisan legislation, which is

966
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,039
nice to see. I just hope that the sun doesn't

967
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:26,119
sit on it forever and that they actually do get

968
00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:29,760
it passed into law sooner rather than later. To protect

969
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,119
artists is not artists, culture, art everything needs to be

970
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:40,719
protected from AI, it really does. If we don't get

971
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,679
these laws in place now, it's just going to be

972
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,800
too late. And I really do think there needs to

973
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,679
be laws, and especially in regards to deep fakes.

974
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: Perhaps well I think on that note, well, we'll begin

975
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,960
to wrap up. I'm going to play the new Hope

976
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,880
the Rapper single one more time on My Way Week nine,

977
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,800
no right of our ten weeks of Hope the Rapper

978
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singles world radio premieres, and next week is is week ten.

979
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,599
It will be our last one, although I mean we'll

980
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:12,079
always going forward, you know, anytime he has something new.

981
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:14,159
I mean, we love Hope the Rapper. We'll certainly play

982
00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:14,679
it on the show.

983
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 4: But I've been exciting ten weeks, a lot of great music.

984
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,320
I've enjoyed every.

985
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:21,039
Speaker 1: One of them. Absolutely have to say, yeah, you said

986
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:23,239
last week that track snapchat, you said that was your

987
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:23,679
favorite one.

988
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,679
Speaker 4: I really like that one a lot, I do. It's

989
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:27,119
still my favorite, still my favorite.

990
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: So we're gonna end with this one on My Way.

991
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,800
It's called but thank you everybody, and if you miss

992
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,280
any part of today's show, and we'll be up in

993
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,719
just a little bit at wmnhradio dot organ on my

994
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,159
website Matt Connorton dot com, and we will leave you

995
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,639
with this on my way, Hope the Rapper, and we

996
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:42,840
will talk to you a little bit later.

997
00:53:42,920 --> 00:54:01,039
Speaker 3: By everybody, I'm on my way now.

998
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 6: Why would I wait? Now?

999
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 4: I'm on my way now?

1000
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 6: Why would I wait now?

1001
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:07,199
Speaker 7: Now?

1002
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,639
Speaker 13: I'm on my way now?

1003
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,679
Speaker 4: Why would I wait?

1004
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:10,079
Speaker 6: Now?

1005
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,039
Speaker 2: On my way?

1006
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 4: Like things like eat a sports is.

1007
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 13: Touchdown we're getting when I'm on that fill, how don't.

1008
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: Give a shout?

1009
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,559
Speaker 4: What's because I'm working on mine?

1010
00:54:20,599 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 6: No, it need a good deal.

1011
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,119
Speaker 13: Tell me what's real. I need a bill twenty nine,

1012
00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:25,840
trying to get all of my bills. They trying to

1013
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,239
destroy me like Capitol Hill. I'm coming right back and

1014
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,159
I'm numbing the thrill, but ain't capping.

1015
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 6: They making this fall.

1016
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:33,679
Speaker 4: For the impact.

1017
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 6: Woooo get the quick dash soon.

1018
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 13: There's somebody called me right back, do it all when

1019
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,320
my heart can't fight that funny find me with a

1020
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,480
barn that's like rat And I'm telling me it's wrong

1021
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:44,599
that I'm like that hip jack the mics with the

1022
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:46,519
flight pack hunt a mic and and no, I'm to

1023
00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:48,760
tell him holy fighting with the man in the barrel

1024
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:51,199
from the aerow step back's a good pass. If we

1025
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,000
talk about impact, we did that. Oh no, heads to

1026
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:56,920
the front door. I know Stan's gonna come. So got

1027
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,079
one boy, the end and the one more. I swear

1028
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:01,599
for my animal ghost. We're gonna put the cheese like

1029
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:04,599
it's kasau tayte soaps Letta be kicking heavy Kaus wake

1030
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,480
up in the morning with a day go trying to

1031
00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:08,719
tour the states to win a big goat, say Sauce.

1032
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,679
I just want to make Poe put a hole in

1033
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,880
his head like a bag. Go nay lo and wait

1034
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,119
for the safe coast pays go. I don't want to

1035
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,960
stay pope these diggings this talking, but I see the opposite.

1036
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,719
I think I'm taking it next, losing that hope. We

1037
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,079
nowhere that goal. But I got this as on my chest.

1038
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:26,800
Push me, don't break down, put us, don't break down,

1039
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,840
prod like eight miles.

1040
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 6: I'm on my weight now, I'm on my way now.

1041
00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:36,239
Why would I wait now? I'm on my way now?

1042
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,079
Why would I wear now? I'm want my way now?

1043
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,800
Why would I wear now? I want my way? When

1044
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:46,760
hold on?

1045
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,679
Speaker 14: Wait local WABBII and fuck up. Pay the biggest man

1046
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,960
than me. I make okay, pen went up with it

1047
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:56,599
in the pain of ramber bitcher with the biggest bit your.

1048
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:59,159
Speaker 6: Don't fuck a gun. They're trying to figure me up, chick.

1049
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:02,079
Speaker 14: Did you hear me when I say I come from

1050
00:56:02,119 --> 00:56:04,400
that error like your marriage pop up with the stupid

1051
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,199
throe down on the terraces were coup and the tooth.

1052
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,199
Speaker 6: We pretend we're no area. I'm cutting the boot and

1053
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,159
they drop door area.

1054
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:11,639
Speaker 14: Your gentrification was patiently waiting in fact the way you

1055
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,559
picking and so the in case they fighting for a

1056
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:15,960
placement on corners and rags while others are plaguing. So

1057
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:19,159
love to word Trapah wait, now that was my trailer

1058
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,320
like eight miles I know down not play round came

1059
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,039
from numboos and to pay pound did you do currency?

1060
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:27,880
Come in and currently keeping good company being your somebody,

1061
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,039
all of my bending and stuffings like children rim raised

1062
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:32,239
where no man's like in the general these rappers or

1063
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,679
so oh pick them apart while hitting them draws might

1064
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,199
be your wife, it might be your mob.

1065
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,039
Speaker 6: No discrimination. I'm blazing them off. They just talking like laughter.

1066
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:42,199
They see their black candiac.

1067
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,039
Speaker 14: You walk like a government. Come from the muddy. It's

1068
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,239
rotures and sofas and employees don't where you had to

1069
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,079
go get it? The packs in the digital and s

1070
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:51,159
and I'm giving you VEX them a criminal packed up,

1071
00:56:51,639 --> 00:56:52,440
get packed in the cloth.

1072
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 6: If you dumped in the lake and you don't, we're okay. Pounded.

1073
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,199
The flavor would break down. I was like the state,

1074
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,639
like a break hound. Just say the stage up in eighth.

1075
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,159
They said, I'm on my way. No, I'm on my

1076
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,719
way now. Why would I wait? Now? Wait now I'm

1077
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,679
on my way now. Why would I wait? No, wait

1078
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,559
now I'm on my way now. Why would I wait?

1079
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:13,519
Speaker 2: Now? Wait?

1080
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 6: Now I'm on my way now? Why would I wait?

1081
00:57:17,039 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 5: When my name is Shenry A way the fan. It's

1082
00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:03,320
the greatest stamp of.

1083
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:09,599
Speaker 6: Rock roop all across the land. Were a bunch of jumpbacks.

1084
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:14,159
Speaker 15: And we don't get a damn human fish.

1085
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:19,559
Speaker 7: Honey. See it's what we are to damn wall.

1086
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,559
Speaker 15: You've gotten to say is show me, don't rock and roll.

1087
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:27,519
Take it from me. You will see how Jerry and

1088
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,320
sell last row.

1089
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 6: Scoll dear the worst kind.

1090
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:47,199
Speaker 15: Of meatball run noorld scoull no big gives one of

1091
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,159
more ons the you will land bo do't heed your

1092
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:06,880
Let me introduce you to the members of my bands,

1093
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:09,760
the Hardness Walking Tests.

1094
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,199
Speaker 7: From here I do, You'll fan.

1095
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 6: We are the coolest, that we are the best.

1096
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,599
Speaker 1: We don't act like a losers, like man like see

1097
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,599
Speaker 6: Stop Indors turn out the Powers