Speaker 1: Music often comes from a very deep and personal place.
Speaker 1: People express emotions, dreams, and pain from their lives, frequently
Speaker 1: drawing upon experiences that bring their lyrics and performances to life.
Speaker 1: Robert Camu tried to do just that one evening when
Speaker 1: at an open mic, he freestyle wrapped something that would
Speaker 1: drop the jaws of those around him. His song wasn't
Speaker 1: about struggles, though, or life lessons. Robert instead chose to
Speaker 1: rap about killing and burying his girlfriend, Amanda Custer, who
Speaker 1: was a missing person. My name is Ben, I'm.
Speaker 2: Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked and.
Speaker 1: Grim, a true crime podcast.
Speaker 2: The following.
Speaker 1: Material intended for a mature audience. Listener discuss.
Speaker 2: That was like a little bit piercing into the ears.
Speaker 1: The smell just immediately hit my nose and oh my god,
Speaker 1: it smells good. Oh and it tastes good too. So good.
Speaker 1: How's it going everyone? Thank you for coming back once again.
Speaker 1: You guys are incredible as always. I didn't make any
Speaker 1: notes of anything we have to talk about prior to
Speaker 1: Do you have anything you want to discuss?
Speaker 2: Oh boy, we're waiting it.
Speaker 1: We're winging it today. Apparently I can start by thanking
Speaker 1: our patrons, because I mean, they're pretty awesome, So let's
Speaker 1: do that. We had a couple of amazing people sign
Speaker 1: up for a Patreon this week. If you want to
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Speaker 1: Link is down below. So those that did sign up
Speaker 1: this week, we have Alex Homie, Lucy Elliott, Marine, Curtin,
Speaker 1: Christy J. Lawson. You guys are incredible. Thanks so much
Speaker 1: for supporting us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's freaking awesome.
Speaker 1: It is means a lot. They get that extra content,
Speaker 1: the extra episode at the end of the month, and
Speaker 1: they even just recommended a case to us that I
Speaker 1: am doing a deep dive into here. Just ordered a
Speaker 1: book that I'm going to do a read on. So yes,
Speaker 1: that case is coming up in the in a few
Speaker 1: weeks when I get all that research done.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is awesome. I just I'm sitting right beside
Speaker 1: our stove here in the tiny home, and it is
Speaker 1: still really really warm because I just made a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of it's hard. You know when I say that it's
Speaker 2: fucking hot.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's like twenty five celsius in here
Speaker 1: right now, which is absurd. Ye, so we might be
Speaker 1: sweating through this podcast just saying that. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sitting right next to the stove. But yeah, bread, it'll
Speaker 1: be delicious. It's going to make for an awesome breakfast
Speaker 1: the night.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I actually think I want to learn. I'm
Speaker 2: ready to learn to make sour though, are you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I've taken up my sweet time,
Speaker 2: but I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I will take you on as my apprentice.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the dark side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm honestly most interested. I feel like in
Speaker 2: using the discard for other things.
Speaker 1: You can do a lot with discard. Yeah, so, which
Speaker 1: I never do, And once in a while I'll do
Speaker 1: like I call them discard pancakes.
Speaker 2: Pancakes for the chickens.
Speaker 1: Yes, I just fra up the discard in a pan
Speaker 1: and just give it to the chickens, which we you
Speaker 1: can add a little salt or cheese and scallions on top,
Speaker 1: and yeah, got yourself a little little breakfast thing going too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I like Pinterest, and I see
Speaker 2: a lot of shit you can do with discards.
Speaker 1: Well, let's uh discard all these pre topics and get
Speaker 1: to the case, shall we.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was smooth. Was it that was terrible?
Speaker 1: Okay? I thought it was pretty puney myself.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, it just gets worse.
Speaker 1: It always gets worse with this show. Let's let's just
Speaker 1: be honest, okay. So today we're doing a case one
Speaker 1: that's been on my list for a little while. It
Speaker 1: is a relatively more recent event. It has occurred in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. It involves a woman by the name of
Speaker 1: Amanda Kathleen Custer and her boyfriend, Robert.
Speaker 2: Camou right before the world changed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right on the cusp of that good old COVID. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, you ready for this one?
Speaker 2: I am. Let's do her.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, today we are covering the story of the
Speaker 1: missing woman, like I said, named Amanda Kathleen Custer. There
Speaker 1: isn't a whole lot of coverage out there on this case,
Speaker 1: which is a shame to say the least, and to
Speaker 1: make matters worse, when you do look up her story online,
Speaker 1: you'll find much more information regarding her boyfriend. Usually her
Speaker 1: is the one responsible for what happened to her. So
Speaker 1: that's unfortunate, some bullshit it is. And like, we are
Speaker 1: firm believers in trying to tell the victim story whenever
Speaker 1: we can more often than not. So that's exactly what
Speaker 1: I'm going to be trying to do here with the
Speaker 1: little information that I do have. So while we tell
Speaker 1: her story, we're going to be talking about the perpetrator
Speaker 1: as well. But keep that in mind. This is Amanda's story,
Speaker 1: and if you can help provide any information in recovering Amanda,
Speaker 1: please contact authorities. Okay, laying that out there right now,
Speaker 1: because she still is missing right now.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, Yes, that was like the way that you
Speaker 2: went to vote. That was kind of I don't know,
Speaker 2: fuck with me for some reason. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I just wasn't expecting that expecting it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I really wanted to lay this home. She
Speaker 1: is a current missing person.
Speaker 2: Dang Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So Amanda was born on April twenty eighth, nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 1: same month and year's my birthday. So she from Bakersfield
Speaker 1: but was living in Monrovia, California. Now, I don't know
Speaker 1: much about the kind of person that Amanda was, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to create false images while talking about
Speaker 1: her either, But what I do know is that she
Speaker 1: was a person who's trying to do her best and
Speaker 1: better herself now. The available public posts on her Facebook
Speaker 1: profile don't tell us very much, but there are two
Speaker 1: pictures in particular that do stand out to me, and
Speaker 1: they're ones of her standing next to a young boy
Speaker 1: who would presumes her son. They seem very very lovingly together,
Speaker 1: and in the comments on one of those photos, Amanda
Speaker 1: had written this as a comment quote, he is an
Speaker 1: Idaho with my parents now, but I'm not giving up.
Speaker 1: He is in good hands and I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get it right and be the best
Speaker 1: for him so I can give him the best life
Speaker 1: he deserves. That was my last visit with him before
Speaker 1: they left. Okay, so she is I mean, it seems
Speaker 1: to me a struggling mother who just wanted nothing more
Speaker 1: to better herself so she could provide better for her son. Yeah,
Speaker 1: assuming that is her son. I mean, it's pretty obvious
Speaker 1: it is, but it doesn't actually explicitly say so. I
Speaker 1: just don't want to say one hundred percent, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: So that makes this even harder though, the fact that
Speaker 2: she was a parent, you know, a mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I think again, judging by what
Speaker 1: little information we do have, she seems like she's being
Speaker 1: a single parent, so I don't think the father is
Speaker 1: in the picture. Otherwise, why wouldn't he have the child
Speaker 1: as well rather than like you know, right, So, her
Speaker 1: parents looking after her son, don't know where the dad is,
Speaker 1: and she is just looking forward to when she is
Speaker 1: capable of having him back with her. Yep. So now.
Speaker 1: Her Facebook page also shows that she was pursuing further
Speaker 1: education by studying at Lyle's College of Beauty. She also
Speaker 1: posted another picture that showed a book that was given
Speaker 1: to her by her parents, and the book was called
Speaker 1: The Rock, the Bible for Making Right Choices.
Speaker 2: Hmm. Wow, that's quite a title, right, I haven't heard
Speaker 2: of that book.
Speaker 1: It's one that I think I might want to look
Speaker 1: up and give it a read, if I'm.
Speaker 2: Being honest, I mean, I don't think it could hurt anyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but to Shae to sche we can all use
Speaker 1: little bit of guidance for making the right choices from
Speaker 1: time to time. And again, just hammering that home she
Speaker 1: was trying to better herself. I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: much more proof that would need to really prove that
Speaker 1: seeking further education. She's got a book on it, and
Speaker 1: she's made a post about what she wants to achieve
Speaker 1: goals for her son.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean also with that book. Decisions
Speaker 2: are hard.
Speaker 1: Oh, they definitely are hard.
Speaker 2: Making decisions sometimes, like being an adult kind of sucks.
Speaker 1: Sometimes, well, especially when those decisions are not just going
Speaker 1: to impact you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have someone who's.
Speaker 1: Relying on you, and your decisions are going to impact
Speaker 1: down that line. Right, So it's definitely a big part
Speaker 1: in everyone's life, and even more so potentially when you
Speaker 1: are a parent, especially to a young child. So apart
Speaker 1: from that, Amanda's personal life has been kept well just
Speaker 1: that personal right. She was, however, in a relationship dating
Speaker 1: an individual kind of on and off for at least
Speaker 1: about two years, and that's according to Lieutenant Scott Hogland
Speaker 1: of the La County Sheriff's Department, and according to him,
Speaker 1: their relationship wasn't exactly a good and healthy one. According
Speaker 1: to a press statement he made, he said, quote, there
Speaker 1: have been numerous domestic violence incidences between them, which is
Speaker 1: not good.
Speaker 2: No, I freaking hate that. That's terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the individual she was involved with was a
Speaker 1: man by the name of Robert Camu.
Speaker 2: Robert Camu Camu.
Speaker 1: Camo c Amou. I'm pretty sure it's Camu, But either way,
Speaker 1: I don't really care about Well, yeah, name correctly either
Speaker 1: so I think.
Speaker 2: He's he's not the fan or we're not a fan him.
Speaker 1: No, we definitely are not a fan of Robert now.
Speaker 1: According to Robert's Facebook page, Robert attended the State University
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, where he studied communications. His page seems
Speaker 1: to be a rather boastful one, where he posts often
Speaker 1: about his achievements or praises that he's gained, such as
Speaker 1: he worked as a quote wildland firefighter at the United
Speaker 1: States Forest Service. His LinkedIn page states that he is
Speaker 1: an quote aspiring project manager seeking employments to gain the
Speaker 1: hourly experience for the PMI PMP, which is a project
Speaker 1: professional test, and also reads quote, I have high standards
Speaker 1: of excellence and am a hard working, dedicated individual with
Speaker 1: a commitment to self improvement through using my skills to
Speaker 1: actualize my talents. I love life and I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to the future. In various locations, he has written that he.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: In various locations, he's written multiple different things. He's written
Speaker 1: that he was an intern for the campus newspaper, underwent
Speaker 1: police and fire agility training, made the Dean's List and
Speaker 1: was awarded into scholarship for teacher preparation and urban learning.
Speaker 1: He was on a forensics and debate team at a
Speaker 1: city college in Los Angeles, Los Angeles, Los Angeles. I've
Speaker 1: heard it pronounced like that before, Los Angeles. Some people
Speaker 1: do like that. It's okay, don't don't at me.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I heard that little huff under your breath. It was there.
Speaker 2: Is that what he did?
Speaker 1: He had listed five different colleges that he had claimed
Speaker 1: to have attended, studying everything from forestry to business administration.
Speaker 1: He claims to have competed, completed sorry high school early,
Speaker 1: and to top it all off with a nice little
Speaker 1: cherry to it, he also claimed to be a professional
Speaker 1: sponsored skateboarder.
Speaker 2: Holy shit. Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of accolades for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And now, to be fair, this might all be very true.
Speaker 1: It might be true. I do not know. There is
Speaker 1: no evidence out there to either support or refute these claims.
Speaker 1: They simply just come right off what he claims to
Speaker 1: be on social media. But I mean, after all, no
Speaker 1: one ever lies or embellishes things on social media, not
Speaker 1: at all, not like you can. If it's on the internet,
Speaker 1: you can believe it.
Speaker 2: It's a fact, definitely.
Speaker 1: So he is, without a doubt in my mind, a
Speaker 1: professional skateboarder for sure.
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting though, I've never really thought about this,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you could put whatever the shit you wanted
Speaker 2: on LinkedIn, couldn't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can, huh. But to be fair, if you
Speaker 1: get a job from LinkedIn, Like, if you get a
Speaker 1: job and they're like looking at your LinkedIn profile, that's
Speaker 1: no different than lying in a resume, Like you're gonna
Speaker 1: get screwed over. You're probably gonna lose the job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean also like, if you're relying on
Speaker 2: shit like that, I mean I think you could probably
Speaker 2: get away with it. But if there might be.
Speaker 1: Legal ramifications to that too.
Speaker 2: True, So yeah, true, don't line in your LinkedIn. Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't do it. Don't do it. I'm just like exploring
Speaker 2: the possibility.
Speaker 1: Nicole's out here just giving tips and tricks on how
Speaker 1: to get your next job.
Speaker 2: No, not at all, Okay, well for yourself, there don't Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: you work.
Speaker 1: A lot more trustless than that. But anyways, yeah, we
Speaker 1: don't know because that all that stuff might be true.
Speaker 1: But anyways, regardless the relationship between him and Amanda, it
Speaker 1: was a rough one. A neighbor, actually a neighbor by
Speaker 1: the name of Hosey Ellis, said he had seen them
Speaker 1: arguing before, but it was nothing they found particularly concerning,
Speaker 1: and then he never really had any indication that Robert
Speaker 1: was capable of assaulting or hurting Amanda. Right, there's no
Speaker 1: real reason to make a report be concerned for anyone's safety.
Speaker 1: But clearly there was a side to it that neither
Speaker 1: he or anyone was able to see, because something dark
Speaker 1: was looming ahead. Now, the first incident between the two
Speaker 1: that involved maybe we'll say physical harm, it was an
Speaker 1: incident that took place on April twenty second, in twenty
Speaker 1: and nineteen, which is yeah, that's COVID time, like right then.
Speaker 2: And there, Well, the next year more so, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's twenty nineteen. When I start twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: I thought it was spring of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: It started, well, I think it started in twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: for some people, but I think it was the twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: wasn't it.
Speaker 1: I'm almost certain it was April of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: I don't know I could be wrong, and it's the
Speaker 2: other the next year.
Speaker 1: Someone out there right now is yelling at us. Nineteen
Speaker 1: or twenty, it's one of those years. But regardless, both
Speaker 1: Amanda and Robert they were arguing between one another. It
Speaker 1: was a domestic dispute, and things began escalating more past
Speaker 1: beyond just a dispute. It began to get to the
Speaker 1: point where Robert allegedly tried to strangle Amanda in their home,
Speaker 1: and then he also began threatening to attack her with
Speaker 1: a taser.
Speaker 2: Oh that's fucking scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no shit, oh man. So Amanda was clearly afraid
Speaker 1: for her own safety and well being, so she managed
Speaker 1: to escape their home and ran. So she ran to
Speaker 1: the neighbor's house nearby to try and seek safety with
Speaker 1: someone else, someone who might be able to, you know, houser,
Speaker 1: call for help or even help defend her, whatever the case.
Speaker 1: So she ran to this neighbor and Robert he didn't
Speaker 1: like this. He didn't like her running away, whether it
Speaker 1: was leaving the house, leaving a getting away from him.
Speaker 1: He went after her, and he went right after into
Speaker 1: the neighbor's house as well.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, so.
Speaker 1: An elderly man led Amanda inside, and Robert chased right
Speaker 1: past him into his home to get to Amanda. Now,
Speaker 1: the man tried to intervene and help Amanda, but he
Speaker 1: himself ended up being battered by Robert in the process.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's brutal.
Speaker 1: Yes, So Robert ended up I don't know to what
Speaker 1: extent the terminology that was being used in articles and
Speaker 1: information that I was reading from was quote battered, so
Speaker 1: to the degree I do not know, But he beat
Speaker 1: up an old man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fucking brutal. Like this man was just trying
Speaker 2: to help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Robert just runs into his home and just
Speaker 1: doesn't care. Yeah, not a single fuck given.
Speaker 2: Like he was just in the way of what he
Speaker 2: was trying to do. Yeah, brutal.
Speaker 1: So Now, as a result of this incident, Robert was
Speaker 1: thankfully arrested and charged with four felony counts, including burglary
Speaker 1: and assault and battery. And this was on May twenty ninth. Now,
Speaker 1: Amanda had filed a restraining order against Robert. She feared
Speaker 1: for her safety. She didn't want anything else to happen,
Speaker 1: so the restraining order. The document contained some writings directly
Speaker 1: from her, Some quotes said I'm going to read, and
Speaker 1: she had written on this document, quote he has made
Speaker 1: over one hundred phone numbers to verbally bash me. It
Speaker 1: went on to describe another time when Robert had once
Speaker 1: quote turned around, came running at my window and broke
Speaker 1: my double pane window with the hatchet.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh.
Speaker 1: He also quote took the hatchet and smashed the side
Speaker 1: mirrors off my grandmother's car. Yeah, so where he was
Speaker 1: already finding him because of this, He was already finding
Speaker 1: himself facing misdemeanor charges foresaid incident, which of course he
Speaker 1: was pleading not guilty for. So that had occurred, he
Speaker 1: was finding himself facing these charges. Now this incident where
Speaker 1: he's trying to strangle her, threatening to tase her, running
Speaker 1: into this old man's home after her, he's now also
Speaker 1: facing the charges from that on top.
Speaker 2: That's so scary, I know.
Speaker 1: Now as a whole Robert had filed a counter restraining order.
Speaker 2: And oh my gosh, and.
Speaker 1: Amanda's grandmother had also filed a.
Speaker 2: Restraining order against who Robert against Robert, yes, because he
Speaker 2: had like smashed her h shit, and she was fearing
Speaker 2: for her safety and her granddaughter's safety like lots.
Speaker 1: So it was this triangle of restraining orders. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not too certain exactly which way this played. I read
Speaker 1: two different ways that Amanda did get her restraining order
Speaker 1: and the other two did not get theirs. And I
Speaker 1: also read that no restraining orders went through. Okay, so
Speaker 1: either no one got them or Amanda did.
Speaker 2: Well, what the hell is Robert putting in a restraining order?
Speaker 2: I don't know, just to be a dick probably Okay, Well.
Speaker 1: If she's doing it, I'm doing I'm gonna claim she's
Speaker 1: the fucking crazy one, like you know, like that sort
Speaker 1: of shit. But I mean they already have the incident
Speaker 1: where he's already facing charges like, and now here's a
Speaker 1: second one. And I'm assuming she's got some sort of
Speaker 1: proof to back some of the shit up. I mean,
Speaker 1: she has a witness, she has her.
Speaker 2: Grandma, well, and she has that older man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the older man now too, So there's witnesses. But
Speaker 1: there's always another side that people might not see.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Just devil's advocate here, I'm saying right now, I believe Manda,
Speaker 1: not Robert, But just say, what about what happened in
Speaker 1: their home before Amanda ran to the neighbors? That could
Speaker 1: be where Robert's being like, yeah, but she did some
Speaker 1: shit then, probably making it up. But anyways, now it
Speaker 1: would only be a couple months later, on on July
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, when Robert was led out of
Speaker 1: prison on bail. You're shaking your head.
Speaker 2: Well, that is no time. No, it's not that is
Speaker 2: no time whatsoever.
Speaker 1: But since he was led out on bail, he was
Speaker 1: required to wear an ankle monitor.
Speaker 2: Though, Okay, cool, what the hell is that going to do.
Speaker 1: So they know where he is and stuff? Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: Now it would be that very same day, the same
Speaker 1: day that Robert was led out of jail, on July
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, that Amanda Custer would last be
Speaker 1: seen alive.
Speaker 2: Oh god, wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that whole time that he was in jail,
Speaker 2: the two months or whatever the hell it was, he
Speaker 2: was probably just you know, plotting some serious avenge or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he was sitting on it. He was thinking
Speaker 1: the whole time, and the moment he had the opportunity
Speaker 1: he struck.
Speaker 2: Gosh, I'm surprised that it was such a little amount
Speaker 2: of time.
Speaker 1: Well, like I think like he hadn't gone to court
Speaker 1: for the charges. Yet he had only been held he
Speaker 1: was being charged, and he hadn't been tried, so he
Speaker 1: has not, you know, being charged with it. It's just
Speaker 1: you know, he's out on bail in the meantime. So yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: Amanda was last seen at around eight fifteen AM at
Speaker 1: her home in the six hundred block of Vaquero Road.
Speaker 1: I believe that's how you pronounce it in Marnovia, California.
Speaker 1: What happened again isn't clear, but a neighbor reported seeing
Speaker 1: her boyfriend Robert at the home and he was seen
Speaker 1: dragging something out of the home and placing it into
Speaker 1: the trunk of his gray twenty seventeen Toyota Prius.
Speaker 2: Holy shit.
Speaker 1: The person made a report. They called the police, and
Speaker 1: they reported for potential domestic violence, and they said it
Speaker 1: looked like it could have been a body that Robert
Speaker 1: was stuffing into the trunk of his car.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Ay, Okay, I feel you said boyfriend,
Speaker 2: But I'm assuming at that time was probably ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I assume, I assume, but I also
Speaker 1: am like, have they a fish? Like I don't. It's
Speaker 1: been so long since I've dated.
Speaker 2: We've been married for like how long, like a million years?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't like when do you, like, do
Speaker 1: you can have to have a consensual breakup to be
Speaker 1: x or is it just like, oh he's in jail,
Speaker 1: he's my ex and like I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know semantics.
Speaker 2: On dating, I don't know. But also a fucking Prius
Speaker 2: like that is the most shocking a vehicle, Like I
Speaker 2: just I just have was just say something about that.
Speaker 2: A Prius, A Prius.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's nothing wrong with a Prius, but I get you.
Speaker 1: It's just like this like murderer shoving a body into
Speaker 1: a Prius. It's like that's an odd picture because usually
Speaker 1: people drive a Prius for like you know, environmental benefits
Speaker 1: or like the gas mileage. Yeah yeah, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to bury a body, so I need a Prius. It's
Speaker 1: got a good trunk space.
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting it to be a Prius.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough anyways, So this I really get
Speaker 1: over that. The neighbor made the report for the site
Speaker 1: that they just saw, and the police quickly arrived at
Speaker 1: the home. However, by this time Robert had already left.
Speaker 1: The next step was, of course, though, to do a
Speaker 1: welfare check. So they entered the home to see if
Speaker 1: Amanda was okay. They knocked, no answer. They entered and
Speaker 1: they called her name again, no answer. As they made
Speaker 1: the way through the home, it became clear to authorities
Speaker 1: that this welfare was turning into something much more. Amanda
Speaker 1: was nowhere in sight, but it was very clear some
Speaker 1: sort of struggle had occurred inside and there was evidence
Speaker 1: of blood as well. They speculated that Robert had taken
Speaker 1: Amanda away unconscious and against her will. So the reason
Speaker 1: why I think they speculated that they took her, that
Speaker 1: he took her away unconscious, was because of the amount
Speaker 1: of blood found inside. There wasn't a whole lot. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like there's like pools of blood streaks on the
Speaker 1: wall like that sort of stuff. I think they had
Speaker 1: found like a few drops of blood here and there,
Speaker 1: sort of thing. Okay, like maybe someone was struck over
Speaker 1: the head and knocked out and yeah, drug outside.
Speaker 2: You can like kill someone without a lot of being present.
Speaker 1: You definitely can.
Speaker 2: You like strangled her or something.
Speaker 1: You definitely can. But I think the lack of blood,
Speaker 1: I'm presuming is why they assume she was unconscious.
Speaker 2: Okay, I wonder if she knew that he was getting
Speaker 2: out on that day.
Speaker 1: I honestly doubt it. I really do. Potentially, if she
Speaker 1: did actually have a restraining order put in place, there
Speaker 1: could be a potential that she might have been contacted
Speaker 1: by authorities, maybe his parole officer or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: or I don't know if it's parole if you're on bail,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, she might have been
Speaker 1: contacted by someone. But I think it would probably have
Speaker 1: been only if that restraining order was something that went through.
Speaker 2: Well then either way too, like she probably wouldn't have
Speaker 2: expected that he would just you know, get out and
Speaker 2: instantly be at her house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, kid, Which like this was, like I said,
Speaker 1: eight fifteen in the morning when she was last seen,
Speaker 1: oh man.
Speaker 2: Like getting ready for work kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm going to be talking about some time
Speaker 1: here again a little bit like we're we're not too
Speaker 1: far away from fifteen right now, Like it's very early
Speaker 1: still that he was there and this all went down.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that other time I was
Speaker 1: talking about, there's another piece of information I do want
Speaker 1: to discuss.
Speaker 2: Robert was wearing an monitor, right, okay, right.
Speaker 1: So he still had this on, and authorities were able
Speaker 1: to go ahead and start quickly tracking him down. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the readings were not the most accurate of readings, and
Speaker 1: I mean he was He ended up being outside of
Speaker 1: the city a bit. He was sixteen miles outside of
Speaker 1: the city into an area in between Mount Baldy and
Speaker 1: Little Creek. So he's kind of out in this remote area.
Speaker 1: They don't really have the best signal and the reading
Speaker 1: oh but did.
Speaker 2: They also were able to tell that he was at
Speaker 2: the house too.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean someone reported and saw him. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think like they were like trying to track where
Speaker 1: is he right now? Yeah, and they were able to
Speaker 1: determine that, yes, he was out in this area somewhere.
Speaker 2: But a large area kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Very large area.
Speaker 2: But also he just doesn't give a shit. Then I
Speaker 2: forgot that he had this frickin' break this ankle thing on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a single fuck is given here clearly.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So shortly thereafter, when he was done in this area,
Speaker 1: they were able to find that he had then driven
Speaker 1: to town. They found footage on security cameras where they
Speaker 1: knew he had gone through and had been He had
Speaker 1: stopped at a Del Taco at a shell gas station
Speaker 1: where he bought cigarettes. There were a few other camera
Speaker 1: locations that he was captured on as well, all of
Speaker 1: which showed him and no sign of Amanda anywhere. And
Speaker 1: not long after that, at around nine thirty am, so
Speaker 1: he had already gone out of town into this remote location,
Speaker 1: come back, and around nine thirty am he removed the
Speaker 1: ankle bracelet and dumped it.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Okay, what the fuck's the point of an
Speaker 2: ankle bracelet? It's clearly not working on him whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it's like we need to track
Speaker 1: him down where he is, like immediately right now. I
Speaker 1: think it's more so like, let's look back and where
Speaker 1: have you been? Like I think I'm assuming, I.
Speaker 2: Guess, but I mean, it's not working on this dude
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: Touche. But by the time I'm pretty sure by the
Speaker 1: time he had already dumped it is when authorities were
Speaker 1: already tracking like where he had been too, right so,
Speaker 1: because it's going to take some time to look up
Speaker 1: and process and everything. So now Robert was officially by
Speaker 1: this time a wanted man, and police were making statements
Speaker 1: to the public asking for help and his whereabouts. If
Speaker 1: you see him. Give us a call. Here's what he
Speaker 1: looks like. He's twenty seven years old. He looks like
Speaker 1: a complete douchebag. Call us if you see that he's
Speaker 1: driving a Prius. He looks like a born.
Speaker 2: Gosh, that is like probably one of the worst descriptions ever,
Speaker 2: because I feel like I see numerous people like that daily.
Speaker 2: Am I allowed to say that?
Speaker 1: No, it's fair, it's fair?
Speaker 2: Oh man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So thankfully, it wouldn't be too long before
Speaker 1: police were actually able to find Robert. They would only
Speaker 1: be about well, there would be about a small window
Speaker 1: from where where he actually removed the ankle monitor to
Speaker 1: where he would actually be seen. Next this time, not
Speaker 1: only was he reported to be seen, but he was
Speaker 1: actually recorded on video. So the very same day that
Speaker 1: Amanda went missing, very same day where he was out
Speaker 1: on bail, the very same day where police are trying
Speaker 1: to track him down, he's a wanted man. Robert made
Speaker 1: his way to a bar called King Eddie Saloon. He
Speaker 1: was there for the evening. I'm just trying to have
Speaker 1: a good time here. He was enjoying his night and
Speaker 1: having you know, just fun, enjoying what was an open
Speaker 1: mic event with some local rappers performing, so it was
Speaker 1: like an open mic freestyle event, right, Okay, everyone's having
Speaker 1: a good time. The rappers are up there on the mics,
Speaker 1: you know, taking their turn, and there is this video
Speaker 1: that is being taken and is currently available online. You
Speaker 1: can go watch it if you'd like, where two rappers
Speaker 1: appear to be kind of like facing off each other
Speaker 1: a bit, going back and forth. A few people are
Speaker 1: standing around, and Robert is one of those people. At
Speaker 1: one point in the video, the mic seems to be
Speaker 1: getting passed back and forth between more than just the
Speaker 1: two people. You know, it's like whoever kind of wants
Speaker 1: to take it, whoever's gonna grab it, And Robert decides
Speaker 1: he wants to take a try at the mic, wants
Speaker 1: to throw something down. First off, it's horrible, his rhyme,
Speaker 1: his flow, all of it fucking terrible. He should never
Speaker 1: have ever had a mic in his hand, and it's
Speaker 1: just the worst. But worst of all are the lyrics
Speaker 1: that he came up with on the fly. His short
Speaker 1: rap verse went I'm not gonna wrap it, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say it, but it went as such, right here,
Speaker 1: I'm gangster in this house. I fucking cut the EMP
Speaker 1: off my fucking leg and then I'm out, motherfucker, you
Speaker 1: don't even know I'm on the fucking news. I killed
Speaker 1: my bitch and buried that bitch in the fucking dirt.
Speaker 2: Holy shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's about the same face that everyone else in
Speaker 1: the room had when he fucking started saying that. Now
Speaker 1: he had one more line that he did say. It's
Speaker 1: a little bit harder to discern something about the police
Speaker 1: are after him and he needs to like not talk
Speaker 1: or something like that. I know, as he just fucking
Speaker 1: says everything, wow, but like someone's like kind of like
Speaker 1: trying to take the microme like casually, and so it's
Speaker 1: like kind of hard to discern what he's really saying.
Speaker 1: But I was just like, this is this guy's a
Speaker 1: fucking idiot?
Speaker 2: Is he drunk out of his mind?
Speaker 1: He might be drunk then, I'm not certain. But like
Speaker 1: I said, you can see everyone just same shock that
Speaker 1: you just had in your face. Everyone's just like what
Speaker 1: the fuck did he just say? Like what? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: trying to like process this.
Speaker 2: So shocking, so awkward, so fucked up. Yeah, So like
Speaker 2: what do I do now?
Speaker 1: Yep? So the man who shot the video, Michael Moore
Speaker 1: later did an interview and said quote. At first, I
Speaker 1: was like, did he say that? He said that? And
Speaker 1: he said it was he said it with such force.
Speaker 1: I think that everyone in the bar that hurt him
Speaker 1: kind of stopped. Time just stopped, and there were some
Speaker 1: hardcore wrappers in there and they stopped.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one really knew what to do, how to
Speaker 1: take it in And the video was quickly posted on
Speaker 1: social media, where authorities were notified and soon came asking
Speaker 1: questions with Michael at the bar who recorded it, and
Speaker 1: all this sort of stuff. But even before they were
Speaker 1: able to talk with anyone, because I mean, hey, this
Speaker 1: is late at night, gets posted by the time they
Speaker 1: got there, bar is probably closed down, right, So before
Speaker 1: they were able to talk with anyone in the morning,
Speaker 1: police just so happened to cross paths with Robert.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this guy, I mean, he's getting what's
Speaker 2: coming to him?
Speaker 1: Oh is he?
Speaker 2: Welly well, actually no, he should never even been out
Speaker 2: of jail. Like this is one of those things where
Speaker 2: you gotta serious regret or like, look at some shit
Speaker 2: for someone like this to be out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, seriously, but that's not how it played
Speaker 1: out unfortunately. No, we're gonna talk about how it played
Speaker 1: out though, okay with going forward in this case. So
Speaker 1: here we go. So police early in the hours on
Speaker 1: July thirtieth, which is the very next day after Manda
Speaker 1: went missing, at approximately two forty five am, so real
Speaker 1: early in the morning. Yeah, LA police officers on patrol
Speaker 1: located Robert's twenty seventeen gray Toyota.
Speaker 2: Prius, his fucking prius, his.
Speaker 1: Fucking prius, parked on Hill and Second Street in downtown LA.
Speaker 1: The police approached the car and lo and behold inside
Speaker 1: was Robert sleeping?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he probably doesn't have anywhere to.
Speaker 1: Go, probably not, so his Prius is now his home
Speaker 1: on the street here. They woke him up and they
Speaker 1: tried to talk to him, but rather than a conversation
Speaker 1: or anything of the like, what happened instead was a
Speaker 1: five hour long standoff with Robert inside of the vehicle.
Speaker 1: He was not compliant, He refused to exit, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure they feared that he could drive away in a
Speaker 1: chase that could pose danger to the public, so they
Speaker 1: quickly did their best to ensure that he couldn't do
Speaker 1: that by bringing in the SWAT team to barricade him in.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, this is like this guy is causing some
Speaker 2: serious freaking commotion.
Speaker 1: Oh is he? Ever? So still, though they got the
Speaker 1: swat team, he's barricaded. He can't go anywhere. Still, As
Speaker 1: the hours ticked by, they could not get him to cooperate.
Speaker 1: So finally, at around seven to forty five am, authorities
Speaker 1: decided they were going to make him leave the vehicle,
Speaker 1: not by force though. They didn't want to open the
Speaker 1: door go in, like what if he has a knife
Speaker 1: or something he could shift someone. That's not the way
Speaker 1: they wanted to play this. What they ended up doing
Speaker 1: is they pumped a chemical agent into his I'm assuming
Speaker 1: something along the lines of like tear gas to force
Speaker 1: him out. And that's exactly what happened. He quickly came
Speaker 1: out of that car real fast once that was being
Speaker 1: pumped inside, and he was quickly apprehended, seeked. They sought
Speaker 1: him medical tension for the chemicals. Now, so after a
Speaker 1: little bit of medical attention, then boom, he is in
Speaker 1: jail with this time no possibility of bail.
Speaker 2: Okay, but like, what do they even have on him? Really?
Speaker 1: Well, his vehicle was searched and inside detectives found blood
Speaker 1: that was a match to Amanda in the trunk. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: they also found reportedly a tarp and what was described
Speaker 1: as only a quote digging tool, which I presume is
Speaker 1: a shovel. But again, one of those terms that I
Speaker 1: could not find of complete definition, digging tool is the
Speaker 1: same term that was used over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Robert refused to say anything to investigators in regards to
Speaker 1: Amanda's whereaboats, and he just continued to maintain his innocence
Speaker 1: even in the face of the overwhelming evidence that they had, like,
Speaker 1: for example, a wrapping video where he describes killing and
Speaker 1: burying the missing woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is quite a bit, but I
Speaker 2: guess it's always harder if they didn't find like if
Speaker 2: they don't find the body, right, touche.
Speaker 1: So. In the following September, Robert was officially charged with
Speaker 1: capital murder, which means, if convicted, he could face up
Speaker 1: to life in prison or even the death penalty. From here, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the information on the case is very few and far between.
Speaker 1: I presume that much of the evidence against Robert is
Speaker 1: being held for his trial, which means they're not really
Speaker 1: making it public. Hence things like quote digging tool are
Speaker 1: the tombs that are being used. So I do think
Speaker 1: that they are hiding as much evidence as they can
Speaker 1: in preparation. Yeah, in preparation for court. Most of the
Speaker 1: articles and updates I could find were from twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: the year that this actually occurred. But I did find
Speaker 1: one document from February of twenty twenty three, a document
Speaker 1: directly from the Court of California where a request for
Speaker 1: review of Robert was denied by the court. So it
Speaker 1: is still an ongoing case. He is indeed currently behind
Speaker 1: bars awaiting trial. Good Unfortunately, as we discussed before in
Speaker 1: other cases on the show, and as you just mentioned
Speaker 1: a moment ago, it is very hard to convict someone
Speaker 1: of murder without a body to prove said person is
Speaker 1: indeed murdered.
Speaker 2: So, and I'm imagining too that I mean, they had
Speaker 2: a general I don't know exactly like how big of
Speaker 2: the scope of the area, but idea of where he went,
Speaker 2: and I'm assuming they probably searched the shit out of it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they've been searching the shit out of it,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But the thing is, I can't imagine how
Speaker 1: many hectares it would be that this is because he
Speaker 1: drove off sixteen miles. I'm not sure which direction it
Speaker 1: was from the city specifically, but he drove off towards
Speaker 1: where there's like a couple of different mountain ranges with
Speaker 1: like he's over here somewhere, So I'm pretty sure like
Speaker 1: the radius you're probably looking at, like at least a
Speaker 1: ten mile radius or something like that.
Speaker 2: How at least probably Yeah, how do you.
Speaker 1: Find a fucking grave in a remote ten mile radius
Speaker 1: of the wilderness? You can't luck that night.
Speaker 2: I mean, I also feel like this guy doesn't seem
Speaker 2: like he's the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: So, like, I don't know, I can't envision him walking
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: Too far, but touche well, especially considering his time frame,
Speaker 1: because he was back right the town already ditched his
Speaker 1: ankle monitor by ninety thirty, so he didn't spend too
Speaker 1: long out there burying her, which also speaks to me
Speaker 1: that her grave is probably pretty shallow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean I could see it getting found
Speaker 2: one day.
Speaker 1: Hey, I am on that same page. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: maybe all we really need is a really good fucking
Speaker 1: like monsoon downpour rain on top of where he potentially
Speaker 1: buried her to uncover her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which would be I mean, just devastating. But it's
Speaker 2: also nice for families and stuff to get closure, right then, Yes.
Speaker 1: Like closure is unknown, Closure isn't everything, but closure is
Speaker 1: something for.
Speaker 2: Sure because it very much so sounds like she is
Speaker 2: no longer alive, you know, most probably, which is awful.
Speaker 1: So Robert is currently planning on entering a plea deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah sorry, not not a plea deal, entering a plea
Speaker 1: of not guilty, my apologies. So he is planning on
Speaker 1: going into court saying he is not guilty, which means
Speaker 1: he claims he did not kill Amanda and is not
Speaker 1: providing any information on where he may have buried her remains.
Speaker 1: As of right now, Amanda Kathleen Custer is currently still
Speaker 1: missing and unless Robert comes clean, as we just talked about,
Speaker 1: she may never be found.
Speaker 2: Wow. Fucking Robert, fucking.
Speaker 1: Robert and his fucking prius.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no shit. The visual I was like having trouble
Speaker 2: sometimes focusing because all I could see was this prius
Speaker 2: and all this shit going down around it and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: very interesting.
Speaker 1: So that is the current story of Amanda Custer. I
Speaker 1: could not find a date on when his trial is set.
Speaker 1: To me, it does not sound like there is a
Speaker 1: date set, but with the review request denied by the
Speaker 1: Court of California, I would presume that we are looking
Speaker 1: at within a year or two. I'm hoping it sounds
Speaker 1: like it's like, no, they're wanting to get this moving on.
Speaker 1: So hopefully that is the case, and hopefully the evidence
Speaker 1: that is being collected, that is being withheld is enough
Speaker 1: to prove what really happened, and then if Robert did
Speaker 1: in fact do this, that he pays the fucking price.
Speaker 2: M yeah, it's too bad. I mean, gosh, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: I don't envision him saying anything so.
Speaker 1: Well, he already said it all though that well no.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like where the body is or anything, right,
Speaker 2: Like he's just keeping his mouth shut now at this point.
Speaker 1: Well, who knows, because with something like that, maybe there
Speaker 1: will be a plea deal offered, because they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you show us where she's buried, we can enter
Speaker 1: a plea deal of like you know, a half sentence
Speaker 1: or it was an act, Like we'll pretend like it
Speaker 1: was an accident sort of thing and you won't have
Speaker 1: like be charged with capital murder or something. Maybe it'll be,
Speaker 1: like hate to say it, something low is like manslaughter
Speaker 1: or something like that. But yeah, depending what's offered, it's
Speaker 1: a possibility. We've seen stuff a little like before.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, poor Amanda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel for her. Yeah. Like I said, at
Speaker 1: the very beginning, she was only wanting to do better
Speaker 1: for herself. Yeah, and then this asshole drug her down.
Speaker 2: Robert's another name, like Carl, A that just seems like shitty.
Speaker 1: I have no problem with anyone named Robert, with anyone
Speaker 1: named Carl, but it just seems like there's there's there's
Speaker 1: a pattern, there's certain names.
Speaker 2: I feel like that if you're you're having a baby
Speaker 2: and you're thinking about naming your kid, just like, don't
Speaker 2: name them that douche, just because I feel like there's
Speaker 2: names on here that come up more often than not.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I like bad people, but not saying if your
Speaker 2: name is that that you'll be a bad person. No.
Speaker 1: I think if anyone out they're listening right now, if
Speaker 1: your name is Robert, just be one of the good Roberts.
Speaker 1: Please just do it.
Speaker 2: There's going to be more good Roberts than that.
Speaker 1: Oh, there definitely will be. But you need to overshadow
Speaker 1: this asshole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy's nasty.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I fully believe that Roberts can can out
Speaker 1: what's the word outdo his negativity with positivity.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also feel like we were a tape terrible
Speaker 2: advertisement for Prius.
Speaker 1: I fully said, there's nothing wrong with the fucking Prius,
Speaker 1: it's just the situation that's painted here. Yeah, because like
Speaker 1: Priuses are also known for the trunk space and it's
Speaker 1: all like, hey, oh man, you can fit fit a
Speaker 1: lot in there.
Speaker 2: It looks like the camera just turned off. It's done
Speaker 2: with us.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't replace the battery, okay, forgot to do that.
Speaker 1: So anyways, this is the end of the episode. Thank
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Speaker 1: of stuff coming down the pipe here soon. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing deep dive on a good old
Speaker 1: Patreon case here that well a Patreon requested case.
Speaker 2: Okay. I was like, that's gonna be on Patriot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Patreon requested case. So it will be
Speaker 1: a public case for here. It'll be a good deep dive.
Speaker 1: And I'm excited for doing that one. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well well done on this. This is this is something
Speaker 2: I need to get out there.
Speaker 1: It's one. It was a case that I came across
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago and I'm like, I really
Speaker 1: want to cover it. So and I'm glad I did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Amanda's name needs to get out there.
Speaker 2: It does.
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