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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to that's that's Terence and Philip. That's everybody. Yeah,

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hey guy, he's flappy ahead.

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Speaker 2: Mike Maharty, Oh yes, you made him Canadian?

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Speaker 3: Hey guy, Hello everyone. My name is Dan Record. I

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am not Mike Mahardy.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Joining me is Mary kish Hi. And you may have

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heard a third voice there that Uh he's new to podcasting.

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I don't know if he's new to podcasting, but I've

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never podcasted with him before. Certainly one Jeffrey Grub, Hello,

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howdy Audy.

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Speaker 1: I don't wait to be introduced. I just talk on podcasts.

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I think that's a dumb rule. Everyone's going to hear

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you eventually. Who cares just talk?

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Speaker 3: Do you think in an average day, Jeff Grub, most

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of the if you took all the words that come

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out of your mouth, are more of them into a

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microphone or not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, more of them are into a microphone. I don't

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like talking, actually prefer not to in life. I'd just

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rather not use this. The whole thing I have here,

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my throat and voice and stuff that could just go

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quiet for hours at a time, and then I podcast.

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Speaker 4: I never shut up.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe you save all your juice. Yeah, you're like,

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you're holding it all in.

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Speaker 4: I save my essence for the people they demanded. Of course.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Grub came in on very short notice here today

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because our colleague Mike Maharty had a wine emergency.

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Speaker 4: Look, don't listen.

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Speaker 1: I know he's a big wine guy and you like

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to make jokes and stuff like that, but you don't

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have to like, of course he's not having a wine emergency.

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Speaker 3: No, his his sabon blanc was not the right degree

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of chilled. So he has been berating a somalier for

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going on two hours now.

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Speaker 4: So we reached out, not a smallier's fault.

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Speaker 3: Well, talk to Mike about it. He had some very

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specific and confusing things to say about it, but he's

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the expert. So we called upon Jeff Grubb to fill in. Uh,

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why did you talk about wine, Jeff Grub?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I had some wine at Disney World. At

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God was that at the Toy Story restaurant. I think

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Mike Maharty would have been very impressed by that. I

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don't remember which restaurant was, which restaurant it was, but

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it was good. I had a cab. It was the

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first one I had in quite some time. My opinion

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on wine is probably the exact opposite of Mike Maharty's,

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which is like, this is all the same. Everything they're

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doing here is just labeling in names and putting pretty

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pictures on the bottle, and in setting a certain price

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to make you think like this one's better than that one,

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because this one's fifty times as much, And.

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Speaker 4: It's all a trick.

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Speaker 1: And I love and respect that about like the wine industry,

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that they're able to do all those tricks.

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Speaker 4: I think that's fun tricks.

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Speaker 2: If Mike were dead, he'd be rolling in his grade

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ideas like I can't believe they've tricked people that they'll

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higher the price of wine nicer it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm shoot, I'm shooting there. But there's lots of research

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about like that. There is no difference. If you do

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a blind taste test with people who claim to be

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experts and you and you have them taste it, they

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don't know which one is better, which one's more expensive.

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Speaker 4: They always get it wrong. And then if you.

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Speaker 1: Tell them what's more expensive, they're like, oh, of course, no,

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that's the one I actually liked, so and again I

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like that.

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Speaker 4: I like that there's a whole industry. That's just like

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all about the bullshit that is awesome to me.

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Speaker 2: So you're just belittling, You're basically like, I love it

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that there's a bunch of idiots out clear two hundred

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dollars on a wine and can't tell the difference, Like.

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Speaker 4: I am belittally for that. Good for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we were out at a team dinner

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when everybody was here in Minneapolis a couple of weeks

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ago for a game of.

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Speaker 4: There or that. That was last week as of this recording,

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Speaker 3: And yeah, we went to this restaurant downtown and Mike's

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looking at the menu and talking to the waitress about

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the different wine pores and having her bring it out

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and do all of his sniffering or whatever you do.

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And he was telling us like, oh, this is usually

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two five on the East Coast, but this is ninety

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two here, this is sex one, this is a great year.

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He was talking about the year and the vintage or whatever.

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And then I tasted it and it was good. You know,

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I've come barn up with wine now where it's like

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I like drinking wine, but I swear to god, it

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tasted like every glass of red wine. It tasted like

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the wine I had in church and Catholic school. It

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all it seemed indiscernible to me.

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Speaker 1: It's like listening to a kid talk about Pokemon, where

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it's like they're like so into all the little details

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and they could tell you everything about all the power

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levels and stuff. But it's like, yeah, I'm glad that

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you have this, and I'm glad you're happy, and.

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Speaker 2: About all liquor or like what about like cheap vodka

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versus expensive vodka.

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Speaker 1: Well, vodka is a tough one, becuz. Okay, that's another

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one where there's not much of a difference. So vodkas vodka,

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but you like, if you get really bottom of the

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shelf vodka, of course there's gonna be bullshit in it.

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Speaker 4: But if you do vodka right, it's just vodka. But

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you know.

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Speaker 1: Like whiskeys and and that kind of thing, those there's

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a lot of difference there for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I drink a lot of Scotch and so I

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got right here.

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Speaker 3: I got to Johnny Walker gold and so like I

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could now gold versus red versus versus blue.

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Speaker 4: I could tell that.

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Speaker 2: You would if if you did a blind taste.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, bonk has.

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Speaker 3: Like when I was first starting to get these like

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nice bottles and stuff, I was like, all right, I

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want to make sure this is worth it.

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Speaker 4: Here's the you know this one.

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Speaker 3: Like we had just moved into our house and I

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got my first bottle of Johnny Walker Blue, which is

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supposed to be like the super nice one, and I

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was like, all right, I just want to double check here.

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And we tested it three times with like Johnny Walker red,

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Johnny Walker Black, and then the blue, and all three

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times I was like, Oh, definitely that one. That one's

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way smoother that one's got.

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Speaker 1: But you can't tell the difference between coke and diet coke.

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Speaker 4: That's correct, Hey you Dan.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so you know how you save all of your

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podcasting vocals he tastes, He saves all of his taste

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buds everything else. I'm actually not sure if this is

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an egg or a salad.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit resource. You have to it's like an RTS.

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Speaker 4: Mary.

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Speaker 3: You know, Mike does talk a lot about wine, and

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we're both good friends with him.

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Speaker 2: Do you let's talk shit about him?

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Speaker 4: He's gonna hear it.

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Speaker 3: Like, do you just do the like not blightly and

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because it means a lot to him, or are you like,

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are you like taking it in and thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to retain vintages and years

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of fancy wine. So usually when he's getting into the

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details of like this is a good year, I don't

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really know that, I will say, like, I've retained some knowledge,

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generally of wine. I remember someone telling me that twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Was a good year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but like, if it's a broad piece

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of knowledge like that, I can retain that. But if

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someone's like, oh, this is a twenty bardo, I'll be like,

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I don't know what the fuck that means, but I

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appreciate that he has that knowledge. I think I give

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it a bit more credibility than grub, Like I have

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recognized a cheap red from a nice red.

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Speaker 4: But there is a limit to me.

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Speaker 2: If I have a fifty dollars bottle of wine, which

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I consider an expensive bottle of wine, for sure, for sure,

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I could not tell the difference between that and a

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two hundred dollars bottle of wine. But I absolutely can tell,

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usually not always. I'm not even gonna say absolutely, I

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am I'm pushing it here. I believe that I could

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tell the difference between like Boda box wine and like

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a nicer bottle of wine.

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Speaker 4: Right, there's definitely that is true for sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about like if you go to Kroger and

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you get like the eight dollar bottle of wine from Australia,

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that's probably you would have a hard time telling difference

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between that and a fifty dollars bottle wine.

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Speaker 4: I think most people would. I think that's fair.

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Speaker 3: If we we've always talked about the idea of like

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where did a PAX panel or something like that, I

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think we have our PAX panel if we.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be really fun to do a

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blind wine tasting and actually put your money where your

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mouth is. You think you're so fucking good, Like, let's

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see it, Let's see if you can. And you know

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what else I'll do. I'll do a blind cheese test

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for Dan, and I'll have like six different types of

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cheeses and you'll have to tell me what vintage.

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Speaker 5: This Jed.

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Speaker 3: Be really impressed, pull out the skittles and have me

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identify the flavor.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I could do that.

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Speaker 2: We could do a whole tasting board. I wonder what

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I could taste the difference of if if you're doing

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if Mike is doing wine and you're doing cheese and skittle.

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I'm trying to think of like where I would feel

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confident that I could taste the difference between certain things.

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I'm not maybe Lacroix, Like I bet you I could

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taste the difference between all the la Croix.

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Speaker 1: Would you be able if we do like the different

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kinds of of like the canned waters with flavored waters,

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would you be able to know like which brand?

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Speaker 4: Do you think? I'm a Lacroix person?

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Speaker 2: Ok, I think that I've done the Kroger brand soda

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water and I didn't like it, which is shocking. You'd

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think you would it would be the same, but the

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carbonation style is totally different than Lacroix.

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Speaker 4: So I think I.

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Speaker 2: Would be at least be able to be like, this

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is not Lacroix standard and I don't like it, So yeah,

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I would do that grub What would you do? What

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would you taste tests? Will you feel like confidence?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I'm not like a like a

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super taster or anything like that. So when I'm uh,

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I'm eating something, I think I maybe it's the memory

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thing where it's like I eat it, I'm like, this

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is good, and that's as much as I need to

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think about it, because in five minutes, I'm not gonna

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remember what it tasted like.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, like, can you have memories of taste?

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Speaker 3: Like if I was like, Okay, what's your memory of

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the taste of a grape jolly rancher?

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Speaker 4: Can you taste it?

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Speaker 1: I'm very much just in the moment with that stuff

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where it's like I don't I'm eating it right now.

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I don't need to think about what it tastes like.

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I know what it tastes like. It's there, and so

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when it's gone, I have not like put that stuff

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into words, which again this goes back to like why

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I think having all that extra stuff about wine is

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still kind of cool because people that don't build this

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stuff just because you're you know, they build this vocabulary

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and that helps them like have like a like better

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memories about the things they're tasting. It helps them remember

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the which ones they like and stuff like that. I

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just don't have the habit of doing that with almost anything.

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I'm just in the moment I like this or I

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don't like it.

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Speaker 4: It's very Buddhist.

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Speaker 2: I mean, good for you for like living in the moment,

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's more like a mental defect where

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it's the ADHD, where I just.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, ahead, I'm not gonna remember it anyhow, yes, exactly.

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Then it's finally so much said it.

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Speaker 2: Finally of course, yeah, I know, remember good exactly.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I got bad brain, and I

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saw I'm just gonna be like, fucket whatever.

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Speaker 2: He's so ahead of his time.

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Speaker 4: We're just talking about food.

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Speaker 3: And it made me just realize that, uh, I am

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in a like Domino's death spiral right now where I

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can't you know, I'm now going.

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Speaker 4: To buffaloed me entirely.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll explain, and I don't know how to get

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out of this Dominoes. I get enough to where I

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got two enough things to redeem a free pizza, right,

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I got my Domino's points, and so I was like,

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oh sweet, I'll just you know, the Wrestling Paper view

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is coming up. I'll I'll just order a pizza for myself.

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I can get one of those little thin crust ones

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that's not too crazy to eat by yourself. Then you

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go to order it, but there's a delivery minimum of

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ten dollars, and so it's like, all right, well, I

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guess I gotta throw on like another.

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Speaker 4: Pizza sticks and then well, I don't know the mac

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and cheese. Well they got the new mac.

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Speaker 3: And cheese stuff, the five cheese mac and cheese would

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just do it, but that's like seven dollars. So I

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wound up getting to redeem my free pizza. I got

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two pizzas and a macaroni and cheese and the only

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thing I got free was the one pizza, So I

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get it. You have three pizzas well. This started like

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a couple of weeks ago, is when that first happened.

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And then they had the emergency pizza gimmick where if

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you buy a pizza.

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Speaker 4: There's a fun thing on the app.

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Speaker 3: They've gamified it where they have like an in case

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of emergency break glass thing on the app and it's

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super fun. And this is not a paid gig. I mean,

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this is a bad situation. This is not an endorsement

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for Dominoes. You get to press the thing and it

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says in case of emergency break for pizza, and you

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break it them like yay, pizza but ordered delivery minimum,

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so have to do it again and get extra pizzas

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against you.

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Speaker 4: On Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I did that Saturday, I only had McDonald's and Dominoes,

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and now I have another emergency pizza ready to redeem.

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Speaker 4: But I need to buy more pizzas to redeem that.

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I mean, yeah, this is how it works, right, This

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is just plausing you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it always reminds me of like one of

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my favorite marketing things, well not even market was like

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a legal thing. When Nintendo lost a lawsuit, they made

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a deal with the court and be like, what if

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we pay back the customers that we basically screwed over

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by doing out that we scammed, Right, what if we

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gave them all a five dollar coupon that will just

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put in the like we'll print it in a newspaper

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and they can go use it at any store to

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buy any Nintendo product they want with a five dollars

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off coupon. So basically to pay people back they had,

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they forced people to have to give Nintendo money, And

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it was like this incredible maneuvering of like they lost,

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and yet they still came out on top, and significantly

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so because people to spend like forty five to fifty

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five dollars to like use their five dollars coupon.

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Speaker 2: That's so smart actually for an advertising I'm amazed though

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that the judge was like I'll allow it, you know,

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like they should have put their foot down on there,

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like when it's a class action lossuit, Like the next

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time someone slips and falls, the doctor's like, good news,

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you get two thousand dollars off your next forty thousand

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dollars back surgery.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, I can't afford not to.

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Speaker 3: It's like you'll get those emails from time to time

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from I always get it from best Buy, and I

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rarely ever go to best Buy and it's be like, hey,

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so here's your five dollars reward thing for this month.

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And I'm like, oh, I guess I gotta go to

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best Buy. I gotta buy something now otherwise just throwing

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money in the garbage. But then it's like, there's nothing

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you're buying that just five hour we get a couple

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of packs of bubblegum here at the no like you

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have sing yeah yeah, yeah, so that shit actually works

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pretty well.

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Speaker 4: Or maybe I'm just stupid. No, you're just a mark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think they would do it if

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it wasn't effective, right, So I thank you. You are

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getting bamboozled, but you are one of many people who

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get bamboozled, and we are in the bamboozle season. It's

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it's uh Thanksgiving, it's Black Friday. This is the time

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where people are doing Christmas shopping. And it's kind of notorious.

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Like there's a lot of like YouTube videos that will

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show this. But you'll see a target video of someone

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walking around, it'll say Black Friday, sale price fourteen ninety nine,

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usually twenty dollars, and if they pull the thing back,

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it's just usually on sale for fourteen ninety nine, and

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so they've just put a sticker over it that says

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black Friday. But it's the same deals that they always have, right,

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And so like a lot of this is a part

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of the brain chemistry of it's on sale, this is

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the perfect time I should get it right now. It's

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on sale, and you impulse buy a new TV that

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you did not need.

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Speaker 4: And people really really love that shit.

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Speaker 1: Because I remember when jcpenny, the Apple store guy took

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over jcpenny for a while, and his first thing was,

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we're going to simplify the stores you're going to, Like,

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there's gonna be colored sections, and when you go in

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that section, when you see a color, you just know

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that thing's going to be that price. And it's not

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going to be eighteen ninety nine, it's going to be

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nineteen dollars nineteen zero zero. It's going to be so simple.

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And we're not gonna have cupe ons. We're gonna have gals.

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You gonna know what you're gonna pay when you walk

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in here.

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Speaker 4: And people hated it, hate where are my sales?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're They love sales because they think that the

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people want to think they're getting one over on the companies.

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If they think that they are taking advantage of the company,

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they'll spend so much more money and people and people

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like you could tell them that and they don't care. Like, no,

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I still want that feeling.

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Speaker 3: I'm with the people on this. Yeah sure, yeah, feeling

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like I'm getting one over. I mean, I miss I

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think I think we've lost something in recent years with

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Black Friday not being what it once was.

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Speaker 4: I remember I would always go back like Black Friday,

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yeah too.

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Speaker 3: My sisters and I would always have a dumb ass

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like gaming thing where it's like, all right, Mario three

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D World just came out, So we're just gonna like

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huddle around the WIU all night. And my mom made

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a bunch of this pineapple vodka shit, and uh, the

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last one on the flagpole at the end of every

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level has to take a shot.

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Speaker 4: And we would do this for like eight hours and

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just be tanked.

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Speaker 3: And then early in the morning, just like you know,

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wake mom up or whatever ever, take us the best

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Buy and she sleeps from the car and me, Katie

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and Kayla like running there and we try to get

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our savings and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I got Daniel Dwyer mixed up with this one year

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we played a fun time we played.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they don't have Thanksgiving in Ireland, and yes.

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Speaker 2: That's correct. It tends to be more of an American holiday.

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Speaker 4: They're just not very thankful people over there.

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Speaker 2: What it is, Yeah, they have no thanks at all.

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The Dictionary thank people over there.

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Speaker 1: It's all gray and rainy. They're just Yeah, So we

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had a cultural exchange. I guess it's not an exchange.

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I guess it's just me showing him stuff. But yeah,

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cultural cultural imperialism.

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Speaker 5: You just.

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Speaker 4: Yea.

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Speaker 3: I took Daniel Dowar to Kansas Is one Thanksgiving. He

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slept on Paul Rekerd's floor, which at the time I

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think had to treat dead wasps all over it, and

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then we'd get up in the morning and go. I

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took him to Walmart Black Friday morning. I've got a

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picture of Daniel Dwyer give him the double thumbs up

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in front of a Walmart while it's still dark outside,

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and I was like, this is here, Danny, this is America.

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Speaker 4: This is the most American thing you can do.

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Speaker 2: What did it die?

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Speaker 3: I think he bought like a novelty T shirt and like,

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I think we got something stupid on DVD or Blu

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ray that was on sale.

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Speaker 4: That was a real shopper. No, get a TV. Come on,

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I've done the TV thing. I'm sure get a TV.

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What a bitch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to fight someone and just bring out

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a trolley of crap you don't need.

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Speaker 4: That's the way. Uh Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So so he got to see that and like that

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was just like the thing. Me and my sisters it

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all the time. Now it's like all they start doing

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it two weeks early and I see all these things,

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like seeingn dot com being like, we checked all eight

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hundred deals on Amazon and here's the sixty that matter.

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And she's like, it's just a bunch of fucking robo

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vacuums and like Dyson's and it's like, We're good.

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Speaker 4: I'm exciting anymore. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: I definitely like we would find the right store and we,

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like me and Steph early when we were dating, we'd

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be like the Target on Ohio State campus. No one

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everyone goes home for Thanksgiving, no one's gonna be there.

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We went there and it was basically dead, and we

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got all these great deals and we felt like, oh,

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we got one over on them. We figured something out.

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So just like feeling like you cracked the code a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit was always exciting.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you always see the horror stories of like, oh,

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people getting trampled and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: It was never like that.

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Speaker 1: There was always like orderly lines for me and I

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would just like sort of a calmly, serenely walk through

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store and like look for stuff while you know, Steph

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went to go get the one specific thing she was

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at the store for. I have fond memories of Black Friday.

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Speaker 3: I worked at a game stop for a couple of

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Black Fridays, And I did work at the best Buy

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for one Black Friday. And I will say, on the

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working side of things, it is a I believe that, Yes,

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game Stop was never as bad. They didn't go as

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wild with it like best Buy. I feel like was

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ground zero for that type of stuff. So like if

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you were working register, which I wasn't Best Buy, it's

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like you're gonna I think they would do time and

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a half at least. But those were long fucking days

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for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what like like before these jobs, like an every

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man person kind of job, Like, what was the worst

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day or worst kind of event that would happen at

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your jobs?

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Speaker 4: My dad was Subway five dollars foot long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it wasn't did It used to be not

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when I was sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Really it was a specialty.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't five dollars. This was like Subway has been

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on a long trajectory of like, crap, we need to

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do some kind of gimmick, right, Yes, the foot long cookie.

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Speaker 4: Cookie is the number one gimmick in my heart.

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Speaker 2: One of them was five dollars foot longs all the time.

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But back in the day it was a specialty.

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Speaker 4: Promo.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, you don't remember those commercials five dollars, but

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I thought it was.

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Speaker 4: I used to go with the dollar five.

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Speaker 1: Dollars Marin arrows for five bucks, Like yeah, they did

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it all the time eventually, And that's actually one of

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the reasons they're in such a shitty position right now,

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because everyone got that song stuck in their head and

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they go there like you are, like fifteen dollars, what

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are you talking about? Until like everyone's like these things

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00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,680
should be five dollars. But yeah, when I used to

476
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,359
work at Subway, long before there was ever any five

477
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,680
dollars foot long thing, so I didn't know what that

478
00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:00,160
was like, was it like was it really actually you

479
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,839
get busy and like there are like long lines and stuff.

480
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 2: People just it was just busier than you had want.

481
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,400
I mean, I also have to express like I am

482
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,799
a that was my first job. I was fifteen when

483
00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:14,160
I worked at Subway. An ideal day at Subway was

484
00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:17,839
no one coming in on five dollars foot long week

485
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,200
or whatever. It's not like we had a line out

486
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,960
the door. It was just busier. And it's just like, well,

487
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,839
I don't want to serve any of these people because

488
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:24,960
I want to be high.

489
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,319
Speaker 4: I didn't want to.

490
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,319
Speaker 2: I was a bad person and I didn't want to do.

491
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,599
Speaker 1: All those feelings sound very familiar of working at Subway.

492
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to get you your seafood sub like

493
00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:41,319
I don't want to. So yeah, any person that went

494
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,319
in would piss me off, and it was a very

495
00:20:43,319 --> 00:20:46,480
popular time. Plus I just feel like sale people. I'm

496
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,200
gonna try to say this nicely, because I think there's

497
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,200
obviously nice sale people, but there's something about sales that

498
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,440
can bring out the absolute worst. And oh yeah when

499
00:20:56,519 --> 00:20:58,519
they're getting a deal, and all of a sudden, they're

500
00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:02,240
just like I want extra this, and I want extra that,

501
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,440
and I want you know, are you making it properly?

502
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,759
And it's just like it's five dollars, it's not worth

503
00:21:09,799 --> 00:21:13,960
you crawling up my ass about how much food is

504
00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:16,079
on this fight And it's obviously it's a foot long

505
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,079
sub it's a lot of shit in your body you

506
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,319
don't need any more. And so like they would constantly,

507
00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:22,640
like I got, I would get in fights with people

508
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,000
about it. Again, I was a bad fifteen year old child,

509
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,079
but like I have like vivid memories of a person

510
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,440
being like I want extra parmesan cheese, and so I

511
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,599
would sprinkle the stupid parmesan cheese. It came out of

512
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,720
the cup with the holes punched in it. Yeah, And

513
00:21:36,759 --> 00:21:38,359
then he was like, he said I would like this.

514
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,799
I said extra cheese. Can you put extra on there?

515
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,319
Speaker 4: And so I was like, Jesus, chut chut chut chut chut.

516
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,039
Speaker 2: Chut against the whole thing, and he said it again,

517
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,599
I really mean it when I say I want extra

518
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,400
And so I said, can you hit the extra cheese button?

519
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,000
And he was like, you can't make me pay for

520
00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:56,480
extra cheese. It's parmesan cheese.

521
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,039
Speaker 4: That's cheese.

522
00:21:57,039 --> 00:21:59,759
Speaker 2: That's that one's free. It's extra cheese if it's like

523
00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:02,920
one the squares. And I said, it's cheese, parmesan cheese,

524
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,079
and you ask for extra cheese, so you're getting the

525
00:22:05,079 --> 00:22:07,359
extra cheese button. And he was just like, you could

526
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,160
take that sub and shove it up your ass and

527
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,759
I was like, and then manager pulled me in the

528
00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:14,359
back and said I wasn't allowed to do that.

529
00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 1: I would kill for the CCTV footage of security footage

530
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,000
of the Ohio subway, Mary screaming and some just roundhouse

531
00:22:24,079 --> 00:22:26,880
kicking a middle aged man asking for parmesan cheese.

532
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, three times, Mary? How pist would you be if?

533
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 3: Have you seen the like the the Chipotle hack people

534
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,880
were doing sometimes this year where it's like they're filming

535
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,680
grab Have you heard of this?

536
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, they're filming so they would get extra. Yeah,

537
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000
wouldn't you be furious?

538
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,599
Speaker 1: I'm just oh, fuck, you just order your food like absolutely, yeah,

539
00:22:43,599 --> 00:22:45,039
it would be you don't.

540
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,079
Speaker 4: Make enough money. Uh, That's how I feel every time

541
00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:49,400
these places.

542
00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 2: Industry job to deal with money? No, absolutely not. And

543
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,480
I think a service industry job is very valuable. I

544
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,519
think every person, of course, should work a service industry job.

545
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,960
There's lots of different you can have as your first

546
00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:04,440
job that our shit, that would give you character. But

547
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,759
there's nothing like doing a service industry job, and I've

548
00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:09,599
done a lot of them. I also worked at Texas

549
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,920
Roadhouse and I'm at a lot of dickheads there as well.

550
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,599
And it will change your mind tremendously when your food

551
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,279
is overcooked or whatever, how you treat the server who

552
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,119
is doing their best and does not make a lot

553
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,680
of money to hear you complain that your broccoli is

554
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,759
over steamed. That did happen? And I remember like just

555
00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:36,359
being like my dude, we put it in a microwave.

556
00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: That's how it's made.

557
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: There are plastic baggies filled with broccoli and we put

558
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,960
them in a microwave for forty five seconds. That's how

559
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,359
your vegetables are made. At Texas Roadhouse, I will give

560
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,559
away that industry secret.

561
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 4: And I think it's.

562
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: Ridiculous that, like I was getting the brunt of that

563
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,920
you're at a Texas Roadhouse. That's what you're getting. You're

564
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,599
getting bagged broccoli.

565
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 4: Don't be a dick to me.

566
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: And I just I that forward for everyone, not just

567
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:05,039
the stupid Chipotle people with their phone, but also someone

568
00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:08,039
who goes to a Starbucks and orders a very specifically

569
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,200
unique drink that probably takes five to ten minutes when

570
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,160
there's a long line, Like, be reasonable with these poor people.

571
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 4: They're doing their best.

572
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: They like there's drinks that have like twenty.

573
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 3: Steps that would kill me because like there were, Because

574
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,599
I have so much empathy for anyone in like the

575
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,880
service industry, because like my mom was a waitress. Grown up,

576
00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:30,519
I worked at call centers and retail jobs. My whole

577
00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:33,240
dad's side was all grocery store employees and stuff. So like,

578
00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:36,640
I'm very, very empathetic with all that. But I found

579
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,799
out like the early twenty tens that if you go

580
00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:41,799
to Chipotle there's a secret menu thing you can order.

581
00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:44,359
And it was before Taco Bell called the thing a

582
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,519
case arito. This was a revelation at the time where

583
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:51,240
if you're asking, they could open up a tortilla, put

584
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,119
a shitload of cheese in it first, and then make

585
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,119
the real burrito inside of that. So there's a layer,

586
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,839
it's like a double decker, like cheese in it. Good

587
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:02,160
as hell. And so I tried it when I heard

588
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,079
about that on Facebook or whatever back in the day,

589
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,720
and it was delicious. But it was such a thing

590
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,599
where every time I'd go in, I'd just be like, oh,

591
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,519
is there anyone behind me?

592
00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:09,599
Speaker 4: Is?

593
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: Do they seem stressed? There's a seam are they trying

594
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,039
to clean out? Conditions would have to be perfect to

595
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:17,720
be like, everyone's smiling, there's nobody else in this place.

596
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,160
I would like this case a rito, please, and I'd

597
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,279
be like apologetic order like, Hey, no big deal.

598
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:23,799
Speaker 4: If you can't, I'll pay extra if you need to

599
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,400
or whatever. But he ordered the case, so rita out

600
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:28,680
of them.

601
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: You do want to do it right. I will remember

602
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,720
like vividly, when I was in school and we went

603
00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:36,960
to Chipotle, one of the coolest It wasn't really a hack,

604
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:40,200
but just ordering double protein.

605
00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 4: Back in the day.

606
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's changed that much, but back

607
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,200
in the day, there was like three people. Right there

608
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,160
was the person who put the meat and yeah beans

609
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,759
on it, and then it went to the vegetable person,

610
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,200
and then it went to the cashier person. And sometimes

611
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:58,000
in that transfer they didn't know you got double meat.

612
00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: Yes.

613
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: To me, that's a victimless crime. I am not hurting anyone.

614
00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:07,079
Nobody has been impacted or offended, and the company lost

615
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,000
a little bit of double meat, Like fuck you that.

616
00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:09,960
I think that's a great one.

617
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: So fantastic.

618
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:13,279
Speaker 3: Double cheese at Subway is the same way I would

619
00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,319
always get double cheese like ge pepper Jack and Monzirella.

620
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:20,839
Speaker 2: I know you would never get by me.

621
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,799
Speaker 4: It's a real sandwich artists you're dealing with here. No

622
00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:25,559
way I took it.

623
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,759
Speaker 2: I didn't tate it seriously at all. I was such

624
00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:32,240
a bad employee in every every conceivable way. But it

625
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:36,000
wasn't because like it wasn't because of anything outside of

626
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:39,079
just general teenage apathy, like I just didn't want to

627
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,960
be good at a job.

628
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:42,599
Speaker 3: See, I was like aggressively shitty, So I think I

629
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,400
might have been worse than you. I used to do

630
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,200
this thing when I worked at the concession stand at

631
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,000
AMC where I would like to.

632
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:52,759
Speaker 4: Entertain myself. I guess I would do this little test.

633
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 3: With my friends where it's like there's the nuclear like

634
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:58,200
orange like dust that you put in the popcorn. Right,

635
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,839
so for every like load of hoopcorn in the popper,

636
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,359
you put one level scoop in there, and that's already

637
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:06,160
very salty seasony.

638
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 4: You know it, you taste, it burns your tongue. You

639
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,359
know when you say nuclear dust, it's just salt.

640
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:14,759
Speaker 3: It's just like that orange magic popworn dust or whatever

641
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,160
it is called. Yeah, hang on, I'll look it up here.

642
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,880
I'm sure it's like largely salt.

643
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: But it was like, yeah, there's a kind of just

644
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,599
a special kind of on the It was yeah, bright orange,

645
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,039
and so I would like, you know, okay, so this

646
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,240
one showing this movie, we got a rush here, Let's

647
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,599
try it with one and a half scoops and see

648
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:31,400
if anyone comes back.

649
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,279
Speaker 3: No one came back all right next, rush do two scoops.

650
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,799
By the time I'm getting to like four scoops of

651
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:40,720
this ship, that like one is overkill. Then it's like

652
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:43,000
all right. That always like try to find the line

653
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,759
where people would come back and be like, my mouth

654
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:45,359
is on fire.

655
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 4: This is awful. What do you do? What do you do?

656
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: So flavor It's called flavor call and it's this, Yeah,

657
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:58,680
the extra extra extra salty salt. It's crazy. You should

658
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,200
actually order some right on your popcorn at home. It

659
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,119
really does make it different.

660
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: I have not thought of that word in yeah, twenty

661
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,119
five years. Yep, he's.

662
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: We have we have Australian household. So we have a

663
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,599
lot of chicken salt in this house, which is basically salt,

664
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,960
but it's flavored like chicken bouyon.

665
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,839
Speaker 4: Okay, and it's pretty good on popcorn, soaked in like

666
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,400
chicken bouyon before they put it in a bottle or whatever.

667
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how they make it over there. It's

668
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,599
a bunch of crazy people on that side of the.

669
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 4: Art, mostly spiders.

670
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: I don't ask how they make it. I'm just saying

671
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:32,559
it's got a chicken on the content.

672
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:36,599
Speaker 4: Understanding when they're talking anyhow, who knows what they're up to.

673
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,119
Speaker 2: A whole chicken in every can.

674
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,759
Speaker 4: Have you guys ever walked out on a job? Uh?

675
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:46,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, we walked out of I think I might have

676
00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:48,119
walked out of one of the subways I worked at.

677
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,319
I walked out of Burger King. I walked out of

678
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:56,000
Papa John's after two days. I'm trying to think that

679
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,960
might that might be it. There's probably another in there somewhere.

680
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: I got two, although I don't know if accounts about

681
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,039
walking off.

682
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:05,119
Speaker 1: If you didn't show up for your first day, that counts.

683
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,519
It was supposed to be the bigs Barbecue Chicken walked on.

684
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

685
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,559
Speaker 3: In Lawrence, Kansas, there was a big barbecue and they

686
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:13,319
had a chicken mascot that would dance on the side

687
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:14,960
of it was either iOS three or twenty three, one

688
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,440
of the main drags of town. You just dance and

689
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,200
have a sign that says big Barbecue. And I thought

690
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,599
that'd be a funny job to have. And the first

691
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,000
day I was supposed to work, yeah, yeah, but I

692
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,279
got to wear a chicken suit. That seemed great. But

693
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:26,599
the first day I was supposed to work was like

694
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,000
a weekend day in July, and it was like one

695
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,319
hundred degrees and humid, and I was hungover and I

696
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:33,519
woke up and I was like, I'm not fucking doing this.

697
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: I'm not chick.

698
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,559
Speaker 3: And I'd already gotten the job filled out all my

699
00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:38,279
paperwork and everything and just didn't show up. The other

700
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,359
one was also college. I got hired as a painter

701
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,440
with all of my painting experience to paint. There was

702
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:47,960
a girl's dorm that was getting renovated and they were

703
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,599
just hiring college kids to paint it. And so I'd

704
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,839
never used a roller before, I'd never painted a room.

705
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,640
I haven't since, and so I'm just learning how to

706
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,559
paint on the job And at the lunch break I

707
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:00,759
think I might have made it two days, and the

708
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,640
half day on the third one, I was like fuck

709
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,839
this and I just walked off. It was painting was

710
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,960
not for me, So yeah, yeah, never like straight out

711
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,200
of a place of business, though, like never like fuck this,

712
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:12,759
I'm out you.

713
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

714
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,799
Speaker 1: The other the burg king there was, It's always it

715
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,640
was never a customer issue. Was always like if a

716
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,440
manager was kind of like just a little shitty and

717
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,240
I'd be like I don't want you don't pay me.

718
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: Enough to deal with this so people don't quit jobs.

719
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,839
Speaker 4: I quit managers for sure. Yeah.

720
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I walked out on the burger king the

721
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:33,680
Papa John's was like, I think there was like Red

722
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,519
Wings playoff game on. I just wanted to go home

723
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:37,200
and watch that, so I just didn't. I just think

724
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,559
I just left. I was like I was trying to

725
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:41,720
like remind myself of like the power I have in

726
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,960
situations of like I still have a choice. I could

727
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,079
just leave at any time. And if occasionally that like

728
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,640
voice gets really loud in my head, especially as a kid,

729
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,759
and I'd be like, let's just do it, let's just

730
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:54,000
do it, and I would, I would leave it, and

731
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,400
I to feel very empowered.

732
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I would skip school and like high school,

733
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,519
I would do that because I would just be's sitting

734
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:01,200
there and I'd have my bag all packed up and

735
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,400
stuff and be like wrestlingy A two thousand. My pre

736
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:05,200
order just came in at Funkle Land. I gotta go

737
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,279
play it right now. And I'm in math class and

738
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:08,880
fifth hour or whatever, and it's like, Oh, he's gonna

739
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,640
see me, He's gonna see me.

740
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: Get up.

741
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no way to escape his line of sight,

742
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,839
and then I would just have to tell my brain,

743
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,119
like hey, brain, shut up, stop thinking, your legs work,

744
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,599
get up, and I just get up.

745
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: And like sometimes I would hear like, hey Dan, where

746
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:20,319
you go?

747
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: Nope, just keep walking, Just keep walking funkle land are good.

748
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:25,680
Hell yeah, that's empowering.

749
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: Don't do that with a police. I just like, I

750
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,000
feel like you've learned a weird lesson. Yeah where your

751
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:36,440
bought your Your legs are apparently allowed to overpower your brain,

752
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,119
but that can probably put you in danger.

753
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: I really like it got you, but it also gets

754
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,440
you cool things. That's like I did, like jump over

755
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,240
the fence. Well it was a three eleven concerts and

756
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,319
not that cool, but I jumped over the fence to

757
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:51,160
get back into a three eleven concert after getting kicked

758
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,240
out for underage drinking.

759
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:54,599
Speaker 3: You ran from the cops to get into a three

760
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,880
eleven concert.

761
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: Well, security guards like mostly.

762
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: That was also I was also as high as a

763
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:03,759
human could be because I like they like they left

764
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:05,680
all the weed out in the van, my mini van,

765
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,640
and so I got kicked out went the van. I

766
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,440
smoked all that and then the funniest part about this

767
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:14,359
is I thought I was being so sneaky up by

768
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,039
the train tracks, I was gonna sneak back in and

769
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,400
from like so far away, so far away. My brother

770
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,000
and my friend who had just gotten kicked out as well,

771
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:24,880
was like.

772
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: Jeff, what are you doing. I was like, oh, you

773
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,160
guys can see me.

774
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: Interesting, And so then I will all three of us

775
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,279
decide all right, we'll just go see what we can

776
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:33,680
get back in.

777
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,559
Speaker 4: We y out of the guys like.

778
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,279
Speaker 1: Like a you know, a roady or whatever, and he says,

779
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:39,599
just jump the fence, guys, just go, and I'm like,

780
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,920
all right, And we jumped the fence and then security

781
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,640
guards did seeus, and then we just jumped another and

782
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,400
these are like twelve feet fences, and jumped that, got

783
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,279
back in and we mixed in with the crowd. And

784
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,680
then when I left, we saw the security guards and

785
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:52,200
kind of waved at him, and they didn't care. At

786
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,319
that point it was already over.

787
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, I get the sense of, despite knowing you

788
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,880
for years now and podcasting with you a lot, that

789
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:02,559
I feel like there's a treasure trove of like teenage

790
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:06,039
slash college dirtbag age, the.

791
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,799
Speaker 4: Bad boy years.

792
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

793
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, have long hair too, just stoned and long hair and.

794
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah, all through the twenties especially, Yeah,

795
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:15,240
I grew I started growing my hair in like late

796
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:16,960
high school and then yeah, that was definitely when the

797
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,279
dirt bagnets started for sure.

798
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: What's some like, uh, you know Mountain Rushmore dirt bag

799
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,759
moments for you in the TV steal on the TV

800
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,680
of course, that's number one. That's George Washington of dirtbag things.

801
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,279
Speaker 4: I don't know.

802
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,359
Speaker 1: It was like, I did I tell you about getting tased?

803
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: About getting tasered?

804
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: I think I know that you got tased, but I

805
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,200
don't know the context.

806
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: I was like again like reminding myself of the power

807
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:42,359
I have in situations. So when like cops come to

808
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,839
the door to party and it's not my house, I'm like, listen,

809
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,920
I can't tell you to come in, So so I'm

810
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,000
gonna go get the person that lives here and they

811
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,240
could tell you whether or not you come in, but

812
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,240
it's not my place. This is I'm so I'll go

813
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,079
do that. And they're like, fuck, you were not waiting

814
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:57,759
and they just tasered me. And I'm like, as they're

815
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:00,680
tasering me, I'm like, can't believe you guys are taste

816
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,720
or that's what I'm literally saying that. It kind of

817
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:08,159
like like more stunned than being like actually stunned. Yeah,

818
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,920
literally stunned. And so and eventually I'm like, okay, wait,

819
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,679
there's like now there are eight cops on me, and

820
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,960
I'm like I just need to go down. I need

821
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,400
to just go down and sit here and just like,

822
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,840
let let what happens happens. And that was it was

823
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,679
very interesting.

824
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,159
Speaker 4: So we did. I got to court because I was

825
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,280
obstructing official business.

826
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: I think, is what I got. And I was like,

827
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,800
I want to fight this, uh twenty twoish because I

828
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,039
was I was of legal age. That's one I answered

829
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:37,400
the door. So I yeah, twenty two ish, twenty one

830
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,920
or twenty two uh. And I went to court and

831
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,079
I was gonna be like, hey, public defender, let's fight

832
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:43,400
this right because this is bullshit.

833
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:44,519
Speaker 4: And then and then.

834
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,519
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, but you have like a previous noise

835
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:51,039
complaint warrant that you never answered, And I'm like, what

836
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:54,280
the fuck is that noise complaint? It was my again,

837
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,199
I was of age, so I answered the door. My

838
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,239
friend was playing the guitar too loud and we got

839
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,360
a noise complaint. I went to go talk to the cops.

840
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:02,480
So my name was on the ticket. I gave it

841
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,760
to him to pay. He never paid it, and so

842
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,119
there was a warm for my arres. So she's like, listen,

843
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,079
we can get that taken care of. We'll get that

844
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:12,000
wiped away in exchange for you doing one hundred hours

845
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,039
of community service for this. I'm like, okay, fine, And

846
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,079
for one hundred hours of community service, I went to

847
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,679
the local animal shelter and played with kittens the entire time.

848
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 4: It must have been really tough.

849
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,199
Speaker 2: It ruled the pitbulls, and it was it was yes, exactly, yes.

850
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 4: So the moral of the story is get yourself tased

851
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:34,000
by cops.

852
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: It was like I even at the time. At the time,

853
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:39,960
I'm like I don't think I feel anything. I mean,

854
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,280
this is weird. This is really weird because I think

855
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,800
it really works way better if you are resisting because

856
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,880
your body's all tensed up. And I was like pretty

857
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,440
relaxed and they just taste This is very weird.

858
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:52,119
Speaker 4: You didn't like you're super high.

859
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: And they taste you, and you're just like, yeah, that's

860
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,559
what you want to do.

861
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,079
Speaker 4: Come on.

862
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: I shoot, did not do a single thing I just

863
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,039
had I gonna get the person who lives here. The

864
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:05,519
thing is that there were people who were outside breaking

865
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:08,480
wind shields of cars coming down the street. They knew

866
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,440
they were getting chased by cops. They came into this

867
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,639
party with us, so we didn't know them. They came

868
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:15,360
in the party, went out the back door. So I

869
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,239
answered the door and like, this is a fucker that's

870
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,159
been breaking windshields And I'm like no, I've been in

871
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:20,960
this party the whole time. So the cops probably thought

872
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,679
it's like, oh, we gotta these guys are gonna get

873
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:24,519
away if we don't like move now on it. And

874
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:26,719
I guess, taste the guy and get in there.

875
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,199
Speaker 4: Let's just taste the guy. Yeah, wow, okay, so not uh,

876
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,119
it's not too bad.

877
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:34,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would like do it again,

878
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:36,760
I think, but actually the anticipation of like knowing it

879
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,199
was coming would probably be way worse.

880
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,599
Speaker 4: Actually, because I.

881
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,679
Speaker 1: I is it the thing that shot out like little

882
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:44,159
things they shot out though there was like the little

883
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:45,079
clips in my body. O.

884
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,039
Speaker 3: Mine was for the one I did on myself. A

885
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,840
lot was probably a stunt stunt gun. Yeah, yeah, I've

886
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,960
always said taser, but I guess it's probably more accurate.

887
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: It tastes like a brand name. I guess, Yeah, I don't.

888
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:54,320
I don't.

889
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: I didn't like look into it and see it. I

890
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,840
didn't like read the side of the gun or anything.

891
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you ask like, oh, yeah.

892
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:03,079
Speaker 4: What voltage? You said too? Yeah, no, it's not.

893
00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: Very strong at all. Can you turn it up a

894
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:05,360
little bit?

895
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,599
Speaker 1: I was just like on the ground at a cert point.

896
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,559
I can't believe guys taste me. All my friends like Jeff,

897
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:10,800
just shut the fuck up.

898
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: Please stop stop talking.

899
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,559
Speaker 2: How you got yourself into that situation.

900
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just just shut the fuck up when you're

901
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:22,199
doing with cops. Yeah, yeah, to your legs.

902
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: I think I did get put in the back of

903
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,079
the cop car. Whether they're like they'd like bring a

904
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:27,719
sergeant app to be like, we got to figure out

905
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,760
what happened because we totally violated this person's like rights

906
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,400
here and this is not like we got to like

907
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,800
bring someone here. News news actually what they're doing. And

908
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,440
so they brought out some uh, I don't know, some

909
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,519
big guest, hotshot cop or whatever, and I'm like telling

910
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:42,239
the story and I'm.

911
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:45,119
Speaker 4: Still like some mustache motherfucker tastes me or whatever, and

912
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:47,519
he's like, okay, okay, just cool it. I'm like, I

913
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,480
can't help it.

914
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,559
Speaker 3: I always did the same thing with cops that I

915
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:52,639
do with like call center people.

916
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 4: Is just like super duper nice.

917
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:57,559
Speaker 3: And I was bigger like if you're angry, if them

918
00:37:57,559 --> 00:37:59,280
are combative, that's when they like come after you.

919
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, right when I get pulled over. When I get

920
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,400
pulled over, I'm like, I'm super nice. I'm like, you're

921
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,880
just doing your job. I'm just trying to get somewhere.

922
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,320
Let's figure this out. That's completely fine. Yeah, I thought

923
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,679
I was fucked once. Where was July fourth?

924
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,199
Speaker 3: And me and my buddy all all withhold his name here,

925
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,559
But my buddy gets a thing of satellite missiles and

926
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:16,400
we're all just like we went drove out to a

927
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,639
dark road in Lawrence, Kansas, and we just wanted to

928
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:20,480
shoot off fireworks. But we were doing it like right

929
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:23,519
by the road, super not busy road. But also my

930
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:26,599
friend was a guy that caused trouble and you know,

931
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:29,199
would I should have known would do something stupid. One

932
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,800
car is driving by in the middle of my buddy

933
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,639
with a things like twenty five satellite missiles.

934
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:34,199
Speaker 4: The little one.

935
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 3: Boer beer like shoot out, and he fucking aimed it

936
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,119
at the car and I have I have a fucking

937
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:41,760
picture of like as I don't know how I had

938
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,800
time to As the car is passing, the window is

939
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,239
down on the passenger side and it goes in and

940
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,320
you hear the pop car pulls over. Guy comes out

941
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,800
off duty cop. The funny thing exploded in front of

942
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,000
his fiance's face.

943
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:03,159
Speaker 4: Oh fuck, this guy was how are you alive? It

944
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:03,880
wasn't me. I wouldn't.

945
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: I got the picture of my buddy holding it. I

946
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,480
took I was talking about journalist.

947
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:13,159
Speaker 2: You fucking were the witness and put him in jail.

948
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,599
Speaker 3: They had him get on the ground because I saw

949
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:18,639
him holding the things. It's like, get the fuck down.

950
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,880
You almost fucking blinded my fiance and flew in there,

951
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,960
you fucking like, and he showed his badge and stuff,

952
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,920
and he starts talking to me, and I don't know how.

953
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:27,920
I was drunk as ship and I just did the

954
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,480
I I, oh my god, I feel terrible, Like, yeah,

955
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,239
we're just we had a little too much to drink.

956
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,960
We didn't drive, We like you know, we got dropped

957
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,920
off out here and he just like I I watched him.

958
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 4: He didn't mean to do it.

959
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: I just I just was very just apologetic and nice,

960
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,280
and he was like, all right, just fucking go home

961
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,840
or something, okay, jeep.

962
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 4: Thank God Like.

963
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: That that that definitely had worked for me, Like when

964
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,880
I was like on the I haven't like tripped a lot,

965
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,119
but I did ask it a couple of times. And

966
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:53,400
one of the times, I was just like, I'm gonna

967
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,599
go for a walk and I was to play like

968
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:57,800
walk in someplace where I shouldn't be, and I just

969
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,719
basically told the cops, hey, I'm on ASCID right now

970
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:00,760
and just walk home.

971
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to cause any trouble.

972
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,679
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to where I'm going and

973
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,119
I don't want to be a hassle and cause you

974
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:07,920
guys need any problems to like, I want to avoid

975
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,800
problems if I can. It was very nice and it

976
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,119
worked that time, and it was fine. So I tried

977
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:14,320
that again of like being nice in a situation where

978
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,440
we were at like a house party and I don't know,

979
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,119
maybe I have a thing for talking to the cops.

980
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:20,559
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh no, I will go be nice to them.

981
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:21,000
It'll work.

982
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,519
Speaker 1: So I went to go talk to them, and they're like, look,

983
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:25,599
we're just looking for for like, we just want to

984
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:27,679
make sure everyone's okay, make sure everything's all right, So

985
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:31,480
can we come in? And I'm like yeah, we'll everyone. Hey,

986
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:33,480
listen everyone. They just want to make sure everything's cool.

987
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:35,440
They want to come in. And what they were really

988
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,280
trying to do is they saw someone with a bong

989
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,360
in the garage and they were trying to get legal

990
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,159
permission to come inside.

991
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: So they came in.

992
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: As soon as I gave them permission, they came right inside,

993
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,159
went right for that, like all right, now everyone's under arrest,

994
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:48,159
and I'm like, fucking cops.

995
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 3: It's like Dracula, Like as soon as you invite them in,

996
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,119
they can just do whatever.

997
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 4: Well, if you invite them in, then they don't need

998
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,880
a warrant. They don't need a warrant.

999
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: They can just come in and they look like Dracula,

1000
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,960
Like Dracula just like yeah, yeah, want to drink your blood.

1001
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true, you have to let them in.

1002
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: I think I have a dual system of opposing brain thought,

1003
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,119
where at first I am a great negotiator, and then

1004
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:15,400
when I have lost the battle, I.

1005
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,159
Speaker 4: Freak out.

1006
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: And I don't think that's when it just I've crashed

1007
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,239
and burned and this kind of comes out in all

1008
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,400
sorts of parts of my life. Right We're like all

1009
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,360
negotiate for our game of the year, and if I lose,

1010
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,079
or if I feel like I'm losing, I'll be like, well,

1011
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:34,440
I'll ruin all of your games.

1012
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 4: I will.

1013
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: You know, like you don't want to play board games?

1014
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:46,519
Sounds like yeah, I remember, like, uh, one time, me

1015
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:49,559
and a bunch of girls wanted to get really drunk

1016
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:51,440
and do a haunted house and we wanted to do

1017
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,840
like do it in style, and we got this big

1018
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,679
event planned even with like a limo or like getting

1019
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:58,480
really drunk and the limo on the way to the

1020
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:01,480
haunted house. And this was way back in the day

1021
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:04,719
when we would have those one time use cameras Like

1022
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,760
that's how like long ago this was, and we were

1023
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,079
all joking about like how much fun this was going

1024
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:13,559
to be. We were really hyping it up because it

1025
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,039
was like a forty five minute limo drive to get there,

1026
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,119
so we were chugging lots of drinks. By the time

1027
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:20,280
we got there, we were all really drunk and they

1028
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,840
were letting us in. Now the golden rule of haunted

1029
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,880
houses is you're not allowed to touch the performers, and

1030
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,239
the other one is no photography because they don't want

1031
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,079
you stealing the ideas and taking them to a rival

1032
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:37,159
haunted house oh wow, or giving away the surprise, right,

1033
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,760
because that's half the scare for these places. And my

1034
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,920
girlfriend was so drunk and she was so excited that

1035
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,920
we were there. In the very first room, she took

1036
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,280
a photo and they straight up were like turn the

1037
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,519
lights on. And they turned the light in the room

1038
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:53,320
and they were like you gotta go, and we were like,

1039
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:57,960
we just got here. It's five minutes. These tickets were like,

1040
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:01,440
you know, fifty bucks to get in. Let us go through.

1041
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,159
It was a mistake.

1042
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: She fucked up.

1043
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,119
Speaker 2: She's like look at her.

1044
00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 4: Look at her.

1045
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: And she's sitting in the back like half like not

1046
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,719
even standing. We're like, look at her, she's an idiot.

1047
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,199
Like let's just go. And the guy is like just

1048
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,519
so uncool about the whole thing, and it's just like,

1049
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,760
you broke the rules. You're fucking out. And I just

1050
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,480
snapped and was like, oh eat a dick man, like stupid,

1051
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,679
who is this? It's not even scary?

1052
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 6: And he called the police all the police to come in,

1053
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,599
and I stepped back in and was like, officer, these

1054
00:43:33,639 --> 00:43:36,840
girls have traveled a really long way to see this place.

1055
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: And the officer looked at me and was like, you

1056
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,880
have two options. You can get back in your limo

1057
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,519
and you can fuck off, or you guys can get

1058
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,199
arrested right now. And I went, oh, is that my

1059
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,599
only option? I can't even go see the stupid an

1060
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,119
app and my girlfriend's just dragged me back into the limo.

1061
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:55,199
You can like see me in the limo being like

1062
00:43:55,559 --> 00:44:00,039
fuck both of you, honestly assuming me away before I

1063
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,400
I arrested, got arrested, or got all those girls into trouble.

1064
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:06,800
But like, ultimately I thought that maybe I could weasel

1065
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,159
my way through going to that house.

1066
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: And I do like that when they were like the

1067
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,199
cops came here like all right, round.

1068
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:18,119
Speaker 2: Two, and I immediately like an officer, there has to

1069
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:21,400
be away. You must understand, and he's like, well, I

1070
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,159
did hear that you called all of these people motherfuckers?

1071
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 4: Does not sound like please.

1072
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,639
Speaker 2: Where I come from, we can all agree to disagree here.

1073
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,519
As soon as he told me that it was over,

1074
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,039
I snapped again and that.

1075
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 4: Was that you've had these two modes.

1076
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: But is it like like the crusty doll with the

1077
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:43,079
good and evil switch or is there like a.

1078
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:50,159
Speaker 2: Negotiator and burn it down. I think it is a

1079
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,159
switch in my brain. I've had that happen multiple times

1080
00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:57,199
with police officers. I've also been pulled over the standard thing,

1081
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,360
like Greb was saying like, You're like, officer, how can

1082
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,880
we work this out? Like you're trying to give tickets

1083
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,840
to bad people. I'm a good girl trying to go

1084
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,320
to college. How do we work this out? And he

1085
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:12,360
was like, yeah, what I said, I'm just a good

1086
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,400
girl trying to go to school. Can't we figure this out?

1087
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,440
And I'm being so sweet and he goes yeah. So

1088
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,559
we had a helicopter clock you going ninety five and

1089
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:27,519
I was like what did you And he's just like, yeah,

1090
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,079
we have you clocked. It's in the sky. And I

1091
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,119
was like, well, that doesn't seem like a good use

1092
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:39,840
of my tax dollars. Quit and he's like, well you're

1093
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,599
getting a ticket and I was like, well, fuck me,

1094
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,840
then see you later. It's like you're.

1095
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, talk about that. I don't.

1096
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't usually go to that place, so I'm always

1097
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,719
like all right, Like if I get resigned, it's very

1098
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,599
much still.

1099
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,119
Speaker 4: All right. Like okay.

1100
00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: So I was working as a delivery driver at GYM Johnson,

1101
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,239
Ohio State Campus, and you know, you got to get

1102
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,840
these sandwiches to these assholes in these buildings, and there's

1103
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,679
no place to park. It's a college campus and everywhere

1104
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,159
it's a toezone. So I'm like always trying to find like, okay,

1105
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:13,719
this is a little corner where I can if I

1106
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,920
were to park it here and I were to get

1107
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,039
up there in like thirty seconds and get back, the

1108
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:22,239
car should still be okay. Not always there were like

1109
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,519
they were there their sharks. There's sharks in Ohio State

1110
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:27,599
Campus to the tow truck drivers, and but there was.

1111
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:29,519
Speaker 4: One where I'm like, this is a game night. It's

1112
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:30,039
game night.

1113
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: The cops are gonna be busy that you know, so

1114
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,559
there or not, the tow truck driver's gonna be busy,

1115
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:34,880
I mean, and that's all. I'm like, I'm gonna go

1116
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,760
in here and I'm gonna park this place. I know

1117
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,119
I can't park here, but they'll see the Jimmy Johns

1118
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:40,840
logo on top.

1119
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,519
Speaker 4: They'll know I'm just delivering a sandwich. I'll just come

1120
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:43,159
right back down.

1121
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: Thirty seconds I come back down, the truck is already

1122
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,280
getting ready to pull me away. So I hop in

1123
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,400
the car real quick because he can't. He can't toe

1124
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,840
the truck if I'm in there, toe of the car

1125
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,320
if I'm in there. So I'm I'm sitting in there,

1126
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,320
and he's like, I'm gonna have to call the cops

1127
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,679
on you. And I'm like, all right, fine, call the cops, man,

1128
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,760
I just want to drive my you know, Jimmy Johns

1129
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,280
is right there.

1130
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 4: They called it.

1131
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,199
Speaker 1: First of all, these people should just fucking walk to

1132
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:03,920
get their stand, which was literally across the street from

1133
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,639
like it's right there.

1134
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 4: Just let me go and we're fine.

1135
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,039
Speaker 1: They called the cops, and I'm like talking the cops,

1136
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:11,320
and they're like kind of like building, it's gonna get

1137
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:11,960
worse and worse for you.

1138
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,119
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, look what if I don't get out

1139
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:16,440
of the car. What happens? And and and.

1140
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,599
Speaker 1: They look at me like we're kind of this this

1141
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,280
motherfucker like they're just like like, what kind of asshole

1142
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,639
even asked to ask a cop like what are the

1143
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:28,440
consequences of my next action? But they were just like

1144
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,199
we're going to like force this door open and we're

1145
00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:33,000
going to arrest you and you're gonna go to jail

1146
00:47:33,039 --> 00:47:35,199
and and all this stuff. I'm like and I'm like,

1147
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,559
but but why, like what am I doing wrong? And

1148
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:39,440
they're like, you're blocking the sidewalk. They had to like

1149
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,440
come up with something, and I'm like, I'm barely blocking

1150
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,400
this sod, but so is he. He's like the one

1151
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,159
holding on to me. If he moves, I can move

1152
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:47,119
the sidewalk. And at that point they were they were

1153
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:49,079
just stung with me. I'm like, okay, I'm resigned.

1154
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 4: Give me. I'll pay this guy the eighty five.

1155
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: Dollars he wanted, so that he was just like he

1156
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,679
wasn't gonna tell me at that point. He's like, I'll

1157
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,280
just just pay me eighty five dollars and I'll let

1158
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,559
you go, which of course is just extortion. But uh,

1159
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,079
I'm like, okay, cool. So that was just a night

1160
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:02,880
where I didn't make any money because it's about as much.

1161
00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:06,079
Speaker 2: It really sucks the tips at Simmy Johnson and yeah,

1162
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:10,159
that sucks to pay money when you're working, and just

1163
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,440
know that that's right.

1164
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: That's where like in my brand, like I got to

1165
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,239
do everything I can to avoid just paying eighty five dollars.

1166
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,599
Speaker 4: But like, again, that's how much you make it at night.

1167
00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, at that time in your life, eighty five dollars

1168
00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:26,199
was everything. Like I'll never forget my first waitressing job

1169
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,719
because that tips were cash, right, and you could walk

1170
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,159
out of there with Walking out with eighty dollars cash

1171
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,360
was god like, it was god tear. It was like,

1172
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,920
no one can touch me. I have eighty dollars, get

1173
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,559
out of my way. I can see any movie in

1174
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:42,400
the world.

1175
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 4: Advanced game right now.

1176
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: I could buy three DVDs right now, three DVDs.

1177
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: Virgin megastore at Easton Mall. Watch out.

1178
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: They only increase in value. They are investment pieces.

1179
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:01,599
Speaker 1: It's Criterion collection. It'll be worth billions.

1180
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,599
Speaker 2: I love every time you, uh you bring up like

1181
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,960
a real place. I know where it is because I

1182
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:08,920
am from there too.

1183
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 4: Yes.

1184
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: I also remember trying to park in the OSU area

1185
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,159
and how insane it is. I have like, uh, this

1186
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,000
isn't a parking story, but I have like a vivid

1187
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:25,679
memory of driving Saturday night, game night, and just it

1188
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,960
was crowded and kind of stressful, and the car in

1189
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,159
front of me was swerving, and I remember being like,

1190
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,920
I said to myself, that guy's drunk.

1191
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to pass him.

1192
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: And so I passed him, and then I went to

1193
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:44,800
a stop flight and I stopped and then he hit me. Yeah,

1194
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:49,679
and I remember like, uh, he gets out and we're

1195
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,320
both like what do we do here? And he was

1196
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,519
like you could buff that out, just like you would

1197
00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:57,400
in like a cartoon or something like, I'm not dealing

1198
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:02,159
with your stupid ass. Let's all go home immediately. But

1199
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,440
now when I see someone swerving, I don't pass them.

1200
00:50:05,559 --> 00:50:07,599
That's a lesson that I learned. I keep them.

1201
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 4: I want them where I couldn't see them.

1202
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:12,119
Speaker 3: Though, because then it's like, at any point, what if

1203
00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:13,880
they just see I hit the brakes or swerve or something.

1204
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 4: I'd rather just like real quick get pass them.

1205
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: And the situation if there's a stop sign coming up

1206
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,760
or a light, yeah, I'm I'm with you now, Mary.

1207
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,559
But if it's on a freeway and I and I

1208
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:25,840
know I can put significant distance, I will pass.

1209
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:27,519
Speaker 4: Them and I'll get put them high way.

1210
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: I passed them in a stopping situation, I'm like afraid

1211
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,960
of them. And that was where you can see him here, Yeah,

1212
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:37,159
I said, I think I said it out loud. I'm

1213
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:38,920
gonna pass this guy. I do not think he's a

1214
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,400
good driver.

1215
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 4: Immediately hit me. I think.

1216
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: I think later on that night, when I was tripping,

1217
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,920
I realized the next day was Easter, and I was say, all,

1218
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,320
I have to go have brunch with my parents, and

1219
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,360
then I so I drove to their house like very

1220
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:55,880
very much out of my mind and like just kind

1221
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,760
of like like like crawled into their family room and

1222
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,039
fell asleep on the floor, and they're like.

1223
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 4: Oh, you're here already, let's go. None the Wiser never knew.

1224
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,199
Does it not occurred to you when you took the acid?

1225
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: No?

1226
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 4: No, No, that's the future, Jeff. That's come on.

1227
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: Don't you have that with the like any of the

1228
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,679
stuff like ADHD where it's like a day from now

1229
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:16,280
might not exist at all.

1230
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,519
Speaker 4: Like that's like I think I have some of that.

1231
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: But if I were to ever try something like acid,

1232
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,639
I think I would spend six months.

1233
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 4: Researching and feel like I was about to raid.

1234
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: Like ben Laden's compound, I would have those like planned

1235
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,079
out multiple different like AI scenarios showing what would happen.

1236
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't this the first time I ever did.

1237
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: It was my friend got it for my birthday and

1238
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,000
I was like, I'm you know, when am I going

1239
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:41,920
to do this? And he's like, if you don't take

1240
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,360
it now, and it was this is like a couple

1241
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,760
of weeks later, he's like, I have it.

1242
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,199
Speaker 4: You still haven't taken it. I'm like, okay, yeah, I

1243
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:50,199
have to go to work at j C. Penny.

1244
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: Actually I worked at the overnight shift, and he's like,

1245
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,360
if you don't take it now, I'm going to take it.

1246
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,159
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, whatever.

1247
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: So I took it and I went over my overnight

1248
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,599
from eleven PM to eight am shift to j C

1249
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,519
Penny and it was that was. I think by the

1250
00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:04,000
time I got there, I had kicked in and I

1251
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:06,960
knew because the lady that worked there with me, the

1252
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:09,400
nice lady, was like surprised that I was there early

1253
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,119
because my brother dropped me off because I was always

1254
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:12,920
like showing up right when the clock started. And she

1255
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:15,559
was like so happy that I was there early, like, oh,

1256
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:17,159
he's going to finally be a good employee.

1257
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 4: It's a good employ She's smiling.

1258
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, she says, hi, Jeff, are you doing And I

1259
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:29,440
must have just gone trying to talk, and I had

1260
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,679
not tried to talk, and my tongue wasn't working anymore,

1261
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,360
and I could just see her face like, oh, no,

1262
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,719
you were I worked the whole yeah, but I hid,

1263
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,280
like for significant amounts of time in the bathroom and

1264
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,079
watched the bathroom like the stall wall like breathe at

1265
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:46,000
me and stuff like that.

1266
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: Well, that's hell. I cannot I couldn't imagine.

1267
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 4: I would never do my phone.

1268
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: My phone broke and I think that was just like

1269
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,199
a coincidence. But it felt like the universe was not

1270
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,760
letting it work. Like it felt like it felt like

1271
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,239
I must be doing something wrong. And so I like

1272
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:04,840
couldn't call my brother to come pick me up. And

1273
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,679
the shift had ended, and like things were starting to

1274
00:53:06,679 --> 00:53:08,760
like calm down in my brain, and so I had

1275
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,599
to like walk over to a like retail story that

1276
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:13,880
would actually have a payphone. And I walked over to

1277
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:17,039
Meyer and just like I called him and it's like

1278
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,039
very early, so he's not up because it's like a

1279
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:21,400
weekend and we're all a bunch of dirtbags, and so

1280
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,039
I'd like keep calling him. Eventually he answers he's I'll

1281
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:25,280
be out there. And it took him a long time.

1282
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,239
So I'm like sleeping on the bench in the myre

1283
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,039
like vestibule with my using my shoe as a pillow.

1284
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,159
He just walked like, come on, let's go, and it

1285
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,840
was fine. Af through my phone. I think I think

1286
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,280
I threw my phone into like a ditch on the

1287
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,599
walk over there. I was so pissed.

1288
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:42,119
Speaker 3: If we ever invent a time machine, let's all summon

1289
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,679
our like twenty one year old Selve a podcast.

1290
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:51,559
Speaker 4: Together and see what she would demolish us like she

1291
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:53,239
would bully us so hard.

1292
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:56,199
Speaker 2: Football team couldn't pull her off of you if you

1293
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:56,800
put her.

1294
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: You guys want to talk video games?

1295
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 5: Sure, all right, Fire Escape listeners. It is almost winter

1296
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Speaker 3: All right, we are back with video games now, Greb.

1325
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,280
You alluded to being in Disney in the last week, right,

1326
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,280
I'm sure were gonna hear about that on Giant bomba

1327
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:31,920
The Air Future.

1328
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:32,119
Speaker 1: Here.

1329
00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 4: I was at Disney, had.

1330
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 6: A real job.

1331
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,639
Speaker 4: You had a red wine. I did have a red wine.

1332
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:40,039
That's right. We were at the Disney dining plan.

1333
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:42,199
Speaker 1: Actually, so what me and stuff are like, we don't

1334
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,880
usually get alcoholic drinks at dinner, especially when we have

1335
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,960
the kids with us. But it was like we'd be

1336
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:49,639
wasting money if we didn't get an alcoholic drink.

1337
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:51,679
Speaker 4: So we got whiskey and all kinds stuff with every.

1338
00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:54,639
Speaker 2: Wait, why would you be wasting money? Because all inclusive.

1339
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:57,519
It was all inclusive for this dining plan. And it's

1340
00:55:57,559 --> 00:55:59,519
like you can get the entree and then you get

1341
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:01,760
a drink and get a diet coke, or you can

1342
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,320
get this fifteen dollars cocktail, Like what oh fuck? I

1343
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,239
totally respect that though, because like when if I'm doing

1344
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,920
a first class flight, which is never but like every

1345
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,199
once a while you get upgraded or something lucky happens

1346
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,760
to you, and your alcohol is like free, and they're

1347
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,920
constantly like, do you want anything like a mimosa?

1348
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, this nine.

1349
00:56:19,159 --> 00:56:23,559
Speaker 1: Am there being like you want something like I better. Yeah,

1350
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:24,960
and then they're like, you want this hot towel. I'm like,

1351
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,239
do I, but you definitely want like meet.

1352
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: And plates and you're like, I'm not even hungry.

1353
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: But yes, the Delta is doing Shake Shack Burgers now

1354
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,519
in first class.

1355
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 4: Jesus y yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

1356
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 3: All right, So grab I bring up Disney because you

1357
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,480
said you had not heard our Game of the Year.

1358
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 4: As a result of.

1359
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: That, that is right, I have not heard your game

1360
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,239
Game of the Year, and I don't know anything about it.

1361
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,159
Speaker 3: Okay, perfect, Well you know all three of us. You

1362
00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:53,199
know you've heard the podcast, you know our thoughts on games.

1363
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,320
I want to do a little test here. Okay, I've

1364
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,519
got a time in about three minutes on my phone

1365
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,280
and I'm looking at our final top ten list. I

1366
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,719
want to see if you have three strikes, meaning you

1367
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,559
can say three games that are not on our top

1368
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:08,760
ten before you're disqualified. Do you think you could hit

1369
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:09,360
our top ten?

1370
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 4: Wait?

1371
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: So okay, so okay, So I say three games that

1372
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,320
are not on your top ten.

1373
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 4: That'll be three strike, three strikes.

1374
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: You're done, but you have three minutes to just try

1375
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,280
to name the ten and I think passing grade is

1376
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,599
seven or above.

1377
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, let me can I look at a list

1378
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,400
of games that just came out this year so I

1379
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,000
can have the full from because otherwise I just will

1380
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:29,920
have a hard time remembering.

1381
00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 4: Yeah that bad brand.

1382
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,239
Speaker 3: Okay, well, if you're doing that, then you have to

1383
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:35,519
get eight. So just say what the passing grade is?

1384
00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 4: Now? Eight?

1385
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,199
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, okay, and

1386
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:39,920
it's still three strikes, all right, you righty?

1387
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, hang on.

1388
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: I need to get this of us games of the

1389
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,920
year just in general. Okay, yeah, this this list will

1390
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:48,199
help me out here. Okay, all right, three minute timer

1391
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:53,920
starting now. Okay, let's go with some easy ones. Bilatro yep,

1392
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,440
astrobot yep. Let's see animal.

1393
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 4: Well, no, that is one strike. Okay's counting on you

1394
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:04,159
for that moment.

1395
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:06,559
Speaker 2: I thought I fought for it, dude, But like, Dan

1396
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:07,480
is such a loser.

1397
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta. I devoted it more than mine. I gotta.

1398
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:13,000
I gotta keep that in mind, that Dan is such

1399
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:13,559
a loser.

1400
00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:16,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep that in mind with all of your picks,

1401
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:19,280
because there's a couple of real stinkers on there that Dans.

1402
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,199
Speaker 1: Uh God, would you guys have put shadowed the tree

1403
00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:26,840
on there. I don't know. Let me hold onto that

1404
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,199
one for a second. Would you guys have done that early?

1405
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:33,960
I know you would not have played that Laura Lion

1406
00:58:34,039 --> 00:58:37,159
the laser eyes that's on there. Yep, that's number seven okay,

1407
00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:42,239
Oh okay, I'm thinking of Dan. I gotta think of

1408
00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:44,880
you tube a metaphor refuntasio yep.

1409
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,599
Speaker 4: Okay, number ten, good job. Number that's irrelevant.

1410
00:58:48,639 --> 00:58:50,079
Speaker 2: It is irrelevant what number it is.

1411
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 4: Okay. I need a listen to this Prince of Persia,

1412
00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:55,360
the Lost Crown. Huh.

1413
00:58:55,679 --> 00:58:57,559
Speaker 3: Okay, I won't even tell you the numbers, just in

1414
00:58:57,559 --> 00:58:59,480
case you want to listen to it and not spoil

1415
00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:00,000
it for you.

1416
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,199
Speaker 4: Uh. The Rise of the Golden Idol.

1417
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,079
Speaker 3: No, that should have been above metaphor. Okay, anyway, go ahead.

1418
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:08,679
That's two to two yeah.

1419
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, I'm kind of getting too guessing. Territory now

1420
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,559
a silent hill too.

1421
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,679
Speaker 4: No, you're out, sir, is a failing grade for sure. Yea.

1422
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,719
That leads us to games.

1423
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't think we need to do it, because

1424
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,119
if anyone who hasn't watched the podcast would want to

1425
00:59:26,199 --> 00:59:28,840
listen to it, So I'm gonna stop you, right, there

1426
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,679
and just say good try. I believe genuinely that if

1427
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:35,960
I would have finished Silent Hill two, which I am

1428
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,119
currently playing, it would have been in that top ten.

1429
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:39,320
And that is on me.

1430
00:59:39,639 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 4: Let's remember another games. Shit, Okay, it's phenomenal. It is

1431
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:44,079
so good.

1432
00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:49,039
Speaker 2: It is an absolute, die hard perfect remake of the

1433
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:52,599
original Silent Hill two, which I must admit I did

1434
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:53,280
not play as a kid.

1435
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,079
Speaker 4: I actually played it for the.

1436
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,119
Speaker 2: First time with Nina Marie on a live stream and

1437
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:01,199
we played it. It was It's called Not So Silent Hills,

1438
01:00:01,199 --> 01:00:03,320
and we played through every Silent Hill on the original

1439
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,199
console and I played through every of the Silent Hills

1440
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:09,719
with her, and I loved Silent Hill too. Like many people,

1441
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,559
I fell in love with this when the remake came out.

1442
01:00:11,559 --> 01:00:14,480
I'd like to see how true of a remake it is,

1443
01:00:14,519 --> 01:00:18,039
and it is. It is genuinely such a perfect remake.

1444
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:22,880
They have done so many nice upgrades. It's really lovely

1445
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,239
that when you go to a door and it's locked,

1446
01:00:25,519 --> 01:00:27,639
he just very quickly like opens up a little piece

1447
01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:29,760
of paper and writes, and then when you check your map,

1448
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,599
it says you can't go in that door, or like

1449
01:00:31,639 --> 01:00:35,159
you need a special key, very clean, how it makes

1450
01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:37,360
you feel like you really are there with these little

1451
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,599
extra details. The map is so easy to follow. I

1452
01:00:41,679 --> 01:00:43,599
lost a lot in that game. But with this map,

1453
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,239
it draws a circle when there's a puzzle and then

1454
01:00:46,239 --> 01:00:48,599
at check mark when you've solved it, so you know

1455
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,880
when you're done with an area. It's so clean you

1456
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,519
don't get stuck anymore.

1457
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,719
Speaker 3: That's why I fell off the original one. Back in

1458
01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:57,559
the days. I remember renting with my friends, like we're

1459
01:00:57,559 --> 01:00:59,000
going to play this all weekend until we beat it.

1460
01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:01,280
And we see that with Resident and it was like

1461
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,760
we just fiddle parted around an apartment complex for hours

1462
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,920
and just locked doors and like, I don't know if

1463
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,079
it didn't have any version of that on the map

1464
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:11,920
where fill in x's or you know, red lines or whatever.

1465
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 4: Like the rooms turned green or something like that when

1466
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,639
you're done with them or whatever.

1467
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:18,199
Speaker 2: You yeah, andy, thing like that, But there's no hints, right,

1468
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:21,960
And in this one he literally writes clock, you know,

1469
01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:26,840
question interesting, and so it's being way more clear what

1470
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,039
it is you're looking for and why I think that

1471
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:32,679
they have found a way to connect the dots. It's

1472
01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:35,960
still puzzly and you absolutely can still get lost.

1473
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,679
Speaker 4: But the game is giving you so many.

1474
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: More hints to just ease your way into saying, right,

1475
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,239
I'm looking for the big hand of the clock, and

1476
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,159
if I put it on the right time, it should

1477
01:01:46,159 --> 01:01:48,880
open up a door. Like it's it's giving you enough

1478
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,960
guidance that you will figure it out if you're reading

1479
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:54,360
the notes and like looking around, and so I just

1480
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,199
really appreciate the quality of life here. I also think

1481
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:04,039
that it is encouraging combat and interacting with the enemies

1482
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:06,800
more than the original. The original, I don't think they

1483
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,440
gave you very much AMMO at all, Like you were

1484
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:12,199
lucky to have five bullets in that game, and in

1485
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,280
this one, I'm constantly finding between two and five bullets

1486
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,280
in every room, which is fantastic. It is encouraging me

1487
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,760
to actually fight the bad guys as opposed to just

1488
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,960
running away. This might be debatable among players who would

1489
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,280
also say, like, it's scarier to run away from enemies

1490
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,159
because you have no way to fight them.

1491
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:33,719
Speaker 4: I think it's terrifying to.

1492
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: Put me in a situation where you've given me what

1493
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,880
I need to kill an enemy and now I'm like, well,

1494
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,400
I got I have to find it and I'm just

1495
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,039
like throwing it, running around with a board with a

1496
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:46,000
nail in it, like praying that I can take out

1497
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,840
these legs. The enemies are just as vile and disgusting.

1498
01:02:51,159 --> 01:02:53,199
The visual.

1499
01:02:54,519 --> 01:02:55,599
Speaker 4: Changes that they've made.

1500
01:02:55,719 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you can really see the poop in the toilet.

1501
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: A lot of gross holes in that game. I've I've

1502
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,000
been watching Kale and yeah, there's just holes everywhere you look.

1503
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 4: And it they love holes.

1504
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 3: Is it not quite like resid Evil four? Like, I

1505
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,199
know it's over the shoulder now, but it doesn't seem

1506
01:03:14,239 --> 01:03:16,719
like it's suddenly like an action game the way like

1507
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:17,280
you know from.

1508
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 4: The first three are you used to aready four? Right?

1509
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,159
Speaker 1: It's still very much survival horror from what it looks like,

1510
01:03:21,519 --> 01:03:22,599
it's survival horror.

1511
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: But I do think that it is increased the amount

1512
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,719
that it is encouraging you to combat. And I even

1513
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,119
think that there's small changes to the animation of the

1514
01:03:31,199 --> 01:03:34,440
character that is encouraging you to engage in combat. And

1515
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,199
I'll give you an example. You get a radio and

1516
01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:39,840
when an enemy is near, it makes like a cock noise.

1517
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,239
That's how you know you're fucked, right, because the radio

1518
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,760
is telling you that something gross is nearby. But in

1519
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,000
the new remake, not only does the radio do that,

1520
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,719
you pull out your wood with a nail in it.

1521
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,719
Speaker 4: Like he automatically does it.

1522
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: He pulls it out.

1523
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:55,199
Speaker 4: You don't.

1524
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: You don't click a button if you're near an enemy

1525
01:03:57,519 --> 01:04:01,280
and you can hear it like mouth breathing, he pulls

1526
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,639
out the board in preparation. And I think that that

1527
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,000
alone mentally makes me be like, oh, I'm a fucking

1528
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:11,639
swing this board. If anything comes near me, I'm like

1529
01:04:11,719 --> 01:04:14,320
ready to go. And so I think it's it's mentally

1530
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,519
kind of encouraging the character to fight, but one hundred

1531
01:04:17,559 --> 01:04:20,360
percent unlike a Resident Evil, which I think is you're

1532
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:24,480
pumping bullets into things, at least in the remakes. I

1533
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,280
think in the original Resident Evils you also had to

1534
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,320
be very careful with your bullets, like super careful. This

1535
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,199
one is also just you have to be cautious. You

1536
01:04:34,239 --> 01:04:36,079
don't have that many bullets. But I think I had

1537
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:39,280
twenty bullets in the last playthrough of Silent Hell. I'm

1538
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,440
not through it, but I couldn't believe I had gotten

1539
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,760
up to twenty bullets. So like they want you to

1540
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,639
shoot shit in the butt. I say that because a

1541
01:04:47,679 --> 01:04:49,840
lot of that characters do not have faces, And I

1542
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,320
don't know if a character doesn't have a head, if

1543
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,719
it's two legs on top of two legs, where is

1544
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,800
the head shot?

1545
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:04,639
Speaker 3: He dinitailia area, Crosby too to crouch crotch area, Yeah,

1546
01:05:05,199 --> 01:05:07,000
in between the legs and both of them right.

1547
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

1548
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:12,599
Speaker 2: So I've just been shooting everywhere, just shooting them all

1549
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:14,840
over anywhere I can shoot.

1550
01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:17,719
Speaker 3: Them now, I know, like super fans of Silent Hill have,

1551
01:05:18,159 --> 01:05:21,119
I guess there's a lot of themes and metaphors and

1552
01:05:21,159 --> 01:05:23,559
so forth, and is it to just I.

1553
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 4: Have like do you do you?

1554
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:27,559
Speaker 3: I just saw it as a game about a spooky town.

1555
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,480
I didn't realize what it was about or the psychology

1556
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:33,679
or metaphors. Do you playing through to have a read

1557
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,599
on what it's trying to say?

1558
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: It's very obtuse, and I think that I didn't fully

1559
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:43,760
understand it. Except for Nina, my friend who was playing

1560
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,000
the original with me, was explaining some of the characters okay,

1561
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:49,280
and they all have fairly sad story.

1562
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,599
Speaker 4: You come across characters and.

1563
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:52,519
Speaker 2: They'll be like, I'm looking for my mom, and then

1564
01:05:52,599 --> 01:05:55,920
you'll be like, oh, that's a sad story. But I

1565
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,760
don't think they're ever really explicit about anything because they

1566
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,719
want you to feel like you're in this foggy dream town,

1567
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,559
so it's hard to really understand a lot of it.

1568
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:09,199
And also like, why are you like constantly descending into hell?

1569
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,920
And who is pyramid Head representing? I don't think they've

1570
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,760
thought all that throughout.

1571
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:15,119
Speaker 4: That's the thing.

1572
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 3: I was watching Kayla stream and I've seen the chat

1573
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,679
and it's like, well, okay, well pyramid Head is obviously

1574
01:06:19,679 --> 01:06:22,320
a penis, and this boss that is a door with

1575
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,480
arms and legs is actually about traumatic sexual memories because

1576
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:27,480
it's not a door, it's a bed, and I'm looking

1577
01:06:27,519 --> 01:06:29,199
at it. I'm just like, I know, I don't pick

1578
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,960
up on stuff very often, but it's like, I don't

1579
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,960
know if these are actually intended messages or what that.

1580
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, but you say, you say it is

1581
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,239
pretty obtuse, I.

1582
01:06:38,159 --> 01:06:40,719
Speaker 2: Think, so, I don't think it's literally telling you much

1583
01:06:40,719 --> 01:06:43,239
of anything at all. And most of the notes, like

1584
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,480
I have a note in the game that's like, there's holes.

1585
01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:49,360
I don't know what to do with all these holes.

1586
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:51,679
I guess I gotta keep digging. And it's like is

1587
01:06:51,719 --> 01:06:54,440
that sex shit. I don't know, Like, I don't know.

1588
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: What you want all holes are sex shit.

1589
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:01,199
Speaker 2: It doesn't like some of it is just very obtuse

1590
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,320
and obscure, and I think that that's scary in itself,

1591
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:08,360
and maybe much like a painting. To an expert, they

1592
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,880
would be like, you see, the flowers are all tiny vaginas,

1593
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:13,480
and you're.

1594
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: Like, oh, they're always tiny vagina.

1595
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:23,079
Speaker 2: But for the people who aren't super understanding of descriptive art,

1596
01:07:23,079 --> 01:07:26,000
we're just like, it looks good, spooky town.

1597
01:07:26,679 --> 01:07:29,639
Speaker 4: It's a it's a scary town. It works, it works.

1598
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: It works on both levels though, right Like, I think

1599
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,320
that's where like the best stuff it can be interpreted anyway,

1600
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,320
where it's like if someone wants to dive in deep

1601
01:07:37,639 --> 01:07:40,079
and they want to connect the dots, if they want

1602
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:42,599
to dive into the holes deep, they can enjoy themselves.

1603
01:07:42,639 --> 01:07:44,039
And if they want to just be like, this is

1604
01:07:44,039 --> 01:07:47,159
a foggy, spooky town, if it's fun that way as well,

1605
01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:47,840
that's a good game.

1606
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 4: I'm trying to.

1607
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,159
Speaker 3: Think that there's ever been anything in art or otherwise

1608
01:07:51,159 --> 01:07:52,960
that I've interpreted in two different ways.

1609
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think probably not.

1610
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 3: If you look at it weirdos. There's got to be

1611
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,320
like a movie I love. That's like so clearly a

1612
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,280
metaphor fors like, is the Shining about something beyond me?

1613
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,880
Guy going crazy and wanting to kill his family?

1614
01:08:10,639 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: Uh, I haven't seen the Shining, which I know you

1615
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:15,679
just see, but but I know I know I'm meant

1616
01:08:15,679 --> 01:08:17,840
to fix that during the Halloween, but I got too busy.

1617
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 4: The Matrix if you don't see that.

1618
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 1: The matrix is a metaphor for like capitalism and people

1619
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,720
being in a system. It's a control. A matrix is

1620
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,319
about control. Yeah, yeah, but like the systems that control.

1621
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,840
It's like for like, like you are just a battery

1622
01:08:31,119 --> 01:08:33,920
charging this other system that's above you. You're just a

1623
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,239
person working in the capitalist system making sure that that

1624
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,479
the system above you could continues to run. But you

1625
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,359
are just replaceable and you don't really matter to it.

1626
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 4: It's yeah, like I did not think about it on

1627
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:45,000
that level.

1628
01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: I just thought, right, that's that's the most like in

1629
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,119
your face metaphor movie that you might like.

1630
01:08:50,199 --> 01:08:52,520
Speaker 3: I've always seen twenty twenty five times. It's only one

1631
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,159
of my favorite mayvies. You've given it another twenty or

1632
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:55,840
twenty five, We'll see we thought.

1633
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,159
Speaker 2: About that about it with that as a battery.

1634
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:01,239
Speaker 3: I've thought a lot about how cool it was when

1635
01:09:01,239 --> 01:09:04,640
he dodged those bullets, and I don't think deeply about it.

1636
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think the Matrix is a good example

1637
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,239
of like that shiit just rules.

1638
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just a good action movie. Who cares? But

1639
01:09:11,119 --> 01:09:13,439
also then I do care and I can enjoy both ways.

1640
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,079
That's all is face off a metaphor for something.

1641
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,039
Speaker 1: Uh, I mean yeah, because like like what really makes

1642
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:21,439
a person a criminal versus a cop? And if you

1643
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,199
were to swap bodies, like, like do you do you

1644
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:26,079
take on some of the characteristics of the criminal that

1645
01:09:26,079 --> 01:09:28,399
you've been chasing? Like what really separates these two men

1646
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,960
if you put him in his body? Like what remains

1647
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,560
that is good and what remained what becomes evil in him?

1648
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:35,159
Speaker 4: And stuff like that.

1649
01:09:35,239 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a classic trope in a cop versus robber

1650
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:39,800
fiction sort of stuff.

1651
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, record, how about any zombie movie about how the

1652
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,000
real enemies are the people?

1653
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:46,359
Speaker 4: Yes, they're faster.

1654
01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1655
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why I don't think I like metaphors most

1656
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,880
of the time, because I remember, like Walking Dead, I

1657
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,880
hated that game so much when everybody was given a

1658
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,000
game of the year and it's.

1659
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: Like, oh, it's so deep though, because it's like Whe're

1660
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,279
the you know, wh're the Walking Dead. It's like I

1661
01:09:58,279 --> 01:10:00,199
was shut up, like I think I just love that,

1662
01:10:00,359 --> 01:10:01,680
you know, yeah shut up?

1663
01:10:02,079 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, huh okay, Well SHO got a certain

1664
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:06,640
thing about that with the matrix.

1665
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,399
Speaker 4: I bet there's like papers written about it or something.

1666
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, there definitely are. Yeah, the whole bocks in fact, Yeah.

1667
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:14,199
Speaker 3: Huh I already yeah, like that movie love maybe they'd

1668
01:10:14,199 --> 01:10:16,079
be a fun when to look at you again.

1669
01:10:16,119 --> 01:10:18,520
Speaker 1: The point is, if you don't find that stuff enjoyable,

1670
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:19,159
don't do it.

1671
01:10:19,239 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 4: Don't force it interesting.

1672
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 3: Like I'm not considered that there was that much more

1673
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:24,840
to it than cool action.

1674
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,199
Speaker 1: I find it very entertaining to like because it feels

1675
01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:30,159
like I'm like almost playing a game with the movie

1676
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,880
or the book or whatever, where it's like, uh, I

1677
01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:35,359
get to engage with their throwing out there. I could

1678
01:10:35,359 --> 01:10:37,880
see how I feel about it and and try to think,

1679
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:39,399
are there deeper connections here?

1680
01:10:39,399 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 4: And I'm like exploring the space.

1681
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,199
Speaker 1: But also if it's a good action movie on top

1682
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:46,720
of that or whatever, if it's doing good genre stuff,

1683
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,079
then I'll just enjoy that as well.

1684
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 4: Do you think if I went to class in film

1685
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,359
school I would know this stuff? I don't know. I

1686
01:10:52,399 --> 01:10:53,600
do have I did go to film school.

1687
01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did go and you got it. Well, no,

1688
01:10:55,359 --> 01:10:56,680
you didn't just go to film school. You have a

1689
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,960
film I agree you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I don't know. Again,

1690
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,720
I think a lot of stuff comes down to just

1691
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,560
how like when you hand something to somebody, Uh, they're

1692
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:07,319
going to.

1693
01:11:07,039 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 4: React the way they react because of who they are.

1694
01:11:09,039 --> 01:11:10,079
And I don't know if you're.

1695
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: Meaning so nice about this fucking film degree and you

1696
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,920
don't know what a metaphor is.

1697
01:11:16,079 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 4: I don't know them when I see them. I don't

1698
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:19,279
think you do.

1699
01:11:19,359 --> 01:11:21,319
Speaker 2: Then I don't know if you've really.

1700
01:11:21,039 --> 01:11:22,039
Speaker 4: Played another thing.

1701
01:11:22,039 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 3: It is a thing, but it's representing another thing sneaky style.

1702
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 4: But I believe I did read that in some of

1703
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,119
the theory that I read. Yeah, if that.

1704
01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: Was a paper, I would have given you a D minus.

1705
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 3: I fleshed it out and pat it out and take

1706
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,319
line spacing to make it a paper.

1707
01:11:39,359 --> 01:11:42,159
Speaker 2: You know, In this paper, I am going to show

1708
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:45,039
you how the thing and a thing disguised as another

1709
01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:46,800
thing is what.

1710
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 3: We should maybe try to do I think I have

1711
01:11:49,079 --> 01:11:52,000
a folder in my drive of all my old papers

1712
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,119
that I did actually do, and I think I wrote

1713
01:11:54,119 --> 01:11:56,000
a paper about fight Club and how deep it was.

1714
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:01,239
Speaker 1: I might be setting it almost as good as Ernest

1715
01:12:01,319 --> 01:12:02,279
Klein's poetry.

1716
01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: I bet yeah, I might be setting myself up for

1717
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,399
a Mike Mahardy style embarrassing old.

1718
01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 4: Piece of writing here. But let me see.

1719
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:13,279
Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, let me tess, Well, I'm looking for this.

1720
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,880
I will be able to find it. Let's toss over

1721
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,920
to grub. You've been playing Rise of the Golden Idol.

1722
01:12:18,399 --> 01:12:19,159
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

1723
01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 1: I started before my vacation, and I am any time

1724
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,560
for games. I'm a vacation. Came back and was like, okay,

1725
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,479
I gotta like. I was in the middle of this

1726
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,640
auction scene. Let me see if I get piece things.

1727
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 4: Together that kind of had. It's really good. They gotta

1728
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,439
they do a cool thing with like, hey, the time

1729
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,039
is different.

1730
01:12:35,079 --> 01:12:38,319
Speaker 1: And then I started realizing the whole chapter had some

1731
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,439
like time markers and dates, so that I had to

1732
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:41,640
start piecing that stuff together.

1733
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:42,560
Speaker 4: That was really fun.

1734
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,319
Speaker 1: The game is incredible still, I really like it, but

1735
01:12:47,399 --> 01:12:49,439
it is maybe a little bit more difficult to play

1736
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,600
when I'm like I do have the kids around, and

1737
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,640
it's like, oh, they need something. I got to put

1738
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,399
this down and come back to it. And so I'm

1739
01:12:55,399 --> 01:12:57,800
playing in like twenty minute chunks a lot of times,

1740
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,239
and I I'm not a note taker, and a lot

1741
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:01,800
of stuff I don't take notes. I try to like

1742
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,600
keep it all in my head, which I'm i am

1743
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,840
admittedly also bad at, but like I try to, and

1744
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,279
so when they come, it's like that all comes tumbling

1745
01:13:10,359 --> 01:13:12,600
down and just seeps out my ears. And I have

1746
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,520
to like start from scratch a lot of times when

1747
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,640
I come back. But that could be helpful because now

1748
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,760
I'm like looking at stuff from a new direction, and

1749
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,319
that has occasionally caused me.

1750
01:13:20,279 --> 01:13:22,239
Speaker 4: To have some insights I did not have before.

1751
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would find like I wouldn't start a new

1752
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,680
one unless it's like, all right, I have at least

1753
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,560
an hour here to really spend some time with this,

1754
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,399
because like if I leave for a couple days and

1755
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,640
come back, I'm gonna forget everything, and like I wish

1756
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,680
it would just organized a little bit better, where it's

1757
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,640
like you know, you saw something on one index card

1758
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,880
or piece of paper or something forever go and then

1759
01:13:40,039 --> 01:13:42,359
you you lose track, and it's just like, how do

1760
01:13:42,399 --> 01:13:44,159
I like It's not there's not like a filing system

1761
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:45,199
that works really well, you know.

1762
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so it's like I have to like, I know,

1763
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,439
I saw that somewhere, so let's go see where I

1764
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,960
can find it. And that could be a little frustrating

1765
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:53,640
at times, but mostly I'm just like, no, I think

1766
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,880
it's here, and if it's not there, it's like, okay,

1767
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,680
then it's probably there and so I'll find it. But

1768
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,479
I just I mean, I really appreciate the way the

1769
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,800
game makes you feel like a detective because like there

1770
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,720
are this is like you know, just the oh, this

1771
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,039
neighbor lists next to this person, his house is white,

1772
01:14:08,079 --> 01:14:09,880
and all this stuff. It's one of those logic games,

1773
01:14:10,279 --> 01:14:12,760
but by making it a video game, even a static

1774
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,720
scene video game, it could do so much visually and

1775
01:14:17,079 --> 01:14:19,760
just make you feel like when you notice something that matters,

1776
01:14:20,079 --> 01:14:22,720
that you are someone that's paying attention and you are

1777
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,520
in that detective mindset. And every time one of those

1778
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,760
revelations hits, it never gets old for me. So yeah,

1779
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,279
I continue to be like, yeah, these are my kinds

1780
01:14:31,279 --> 01:14:34,880
of games, very much into it, really enjoying it. Still,

1781
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:38,680
what chapter you on I just got I'm like a

1782
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,920
little bit into chapter three now, because again I put

1783
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,439
it down a week and a half ago and haven't

1784
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:43,880
been able to touch it, and so I'm like, I

1785
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,800
just got into chapter three earlier today.

1786
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 4: Have you played much on the steam deck or you

1787
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,479
mainly like on a computer? Almost all on the steam Deck?

1788
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,199
Speaker 1: Actually I play you know, I did play some of

1789
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:53,920
the computer today, but mostly all on the steam Deck.

1790
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,239
I just switched over to the touch Bad turned it

1791
01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:57,479
into a mouse and it works.

1792
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 5: Well.

1793
01:14:58,279 --> 01:15:00,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're doing touch Bad Okay. Yeah, I was

1794
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:01,560
going back and forth and trying to get like the

1795
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,600
stick working well. And then also the track pad seem

1796
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,000
the track pad was the best bet with like R

1797
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:07,479
two as the clicking drag basically.

1798
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if I want to just click quick, I'll

1799
01:15:09,239 --> 01:15:10,880
just click in the track bab. But if I need

1800
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,439
to drag something, I'm using the R two. Yeah sure,

1801
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,640
And it's it's worth great. You know, It's not as

1802
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,279
intuitive as using a mouse, but for having it on

1803
01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:20,399
the go and be able to keep it with me

1804
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,680
and treating it like a little novel or whatever, it's

1805
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,159
been good for that. But yeah, I just I hope

1806
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:27,479
they make a ton of these. They're apparently are going

1807
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,720
to put a ton of DLC for this game next year,

1808
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,319
so I'll be there for all of it.

1809
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 3: I never did the DLC for the last one, and like,

1810
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,239
I do feel like by the end of this one,

1811
01:15:35,279 --> 01:15:37,319
it was so kind of difficult, and I kind of

1812
01:15:37,359 --> 01:15:39,000
just looked up a couple of the like last ones

1813
01:15:39,279 --> 01:15:40,720
that I would love to go back to the first

1814
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,119
game's DLC and just be like, Okay, let's I'd like

1815
01:15:43,159 --> 01:15:44,520
to go back to like a simpler one, you know.

1816
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:45,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1817
01:15:45,319 --> 01:15:48,239
Speaker 1: I also like, I'm like, I'm into the lore of

1818
01:15:48,359 --> 01:15:50,199
the games in a way that I don't usually get

1819
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:52,439
into with these kinds of things. But I'm like, I

1820
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,920
recognize this guy from the last game, and I wonder,

1821
01:15:55,039 --> 01:15:56,680
like what happened here? I wonder if some of that

1822
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,760
stuff is covered in the DLC. So I'm going to

1823
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,760
go back and play that too. I played something. I

1824
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,039
started it, but I didn't finish it.

1825
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 4: Nice.

1826
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 3: All right, Mary, you you're still working specifically on Mortal

1827
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:08,760
in UFO fifty.

1828
01:16:09,359 --> 01:16:13,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you done one yet?

1829
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,079
Speaker 7: I do?

1830
01:16:16,119 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 4: Let's do uh? I only have a couple. I got

1831
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:19,399
a couple.

1832
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot more to say about call

1833
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,520
of Duty other than what I've said before is that

1834
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,279
it's just absolutely fantastic.

1835
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: Did I hear you or see you say that you

1836
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,439
got the shark skin? Maybe it was in chat this morning.

1837
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 4: Skin.

1838
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 3: I'm a big shark man with a suit now and

1839
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,039
I've got guns that have water on him. It's very stupid,

1840
01:16:34,039 --> 01:16:35,960
and I love it very much. So my two guys

1841
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,399
are I'm Peter storm Mayer on the left faction and

1842
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,399
I'm a sharkman on the right, and it's the right level.

1843
01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 4: Of stupid for me. I think it's fantastic. I like

1844
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:43,920
that a lot.

1845
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: And then we streamed a little bit of Zombies on

1846
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,600
Giant Bomb, and that seemed very fun in a way

1847
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,119
that like I didn't really ever gravitate towards zombies, but

1848
01:16:51,399 --> 01:16:54,119
this felt really fleshed out and solid, so I kind

1849
01:16:54,119 --> 01:16:56,399
of want to do more of it. But yeah, that's

1850
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:57,880
just update that like that is one of the main

1851
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,600
games I'm playing right now. But the main game I've

1852
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,039
been playing the last three days is I am fully

1853
01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:06,960
back into the Vampire Survivor's hole to the point where

1854
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,640
it's like, this is now the fourth time I've restarted

1855
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,479
this game, and I had gone through all of this

1856
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,319
and all the DLC on Xbox, on one Steam account

1857
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,399
and on switch. I believe I probably put over thirty

1858
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,319
hours maybe upwards of fifty sixty on the PC before.

1859
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,960
But I have a different Steam account now with all

1860
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,920
the DLC on it. So I had to restart, and

1861
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:29,000
I was like, well, I got to get all the

1862
01:17:29,039 --> 01:17:30,760
other the old stuff before I go to Castlelvania. I

1863
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,279
don't want to go in there, you know, like ncapped here.

1864
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,479
So I've been going through all the old stuff. There's

1865
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,239
like three hundred fucking challenges I'm doing like one by

1866
01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:40,479
one by one by one, and also like dipping out

1867
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,760
of the Castlevania stage every once in a while. The

1868
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,439
Castlevania stuff is so cool. It is this giant map

1869
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,119
that's designed after it's all like the classically here's the

1870
01:17:48,119 --> 01:17:51,640
clock tower, here's you know, all these outside the castle,

1871
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,439
inside the castle, going up the stairs to where Dracula is.

1872
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,520
It's very like Symphony seems to be the one that

1873
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,720
draws most you know, inspiration from which makes sense. And

1874
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,600
there's so many characters unlock all the weapons, the evolutions.

1875
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,359
It's like more than the base game had, so it's

1876
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,880
it is just one map, but it's huge and has

1877
01:18:08,119 --> 01:18:10,600
numerous like almost stages to it where it's like you

1878
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,399
beat this boss fight and then you get this item

1879
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,319
that'll unlock this door, and then you can move past

1880
01:18:14,359 --> 01:18:16,640
and unlocks like a warp zone, like an actual Castlevania

1881
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,880
where it's unlocking the different warp zones. So now I

1882
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,159
can just warp and go straight to the clock tower

1883
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:24,279
instead of having to fight my way there. So it's

1884
01:18:24,399 --> 01:18:26,640
just I'm fully on board again, planning on the Steam

1885
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,760
deck a lot. I'm gonna be on a flight tomorrow

1886
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,399
and I just can't wait to like have it melt

1887
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,039
away in no time with the Vampire Survivors. So I

1888
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,439
really think this is one of my favorite games in

1889
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,159
the last ten years at this point that I can

1890
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:41,359
keep picking it up and starting it brand new and

1891
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,520
having just so much fun with it. But it's so

1892
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,159
finally tuned to like being the most dewey, dopamine bullshit

1893
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:48,720
game in the world, and I love.

1894
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 4: It for it.

1895
01:18:49,399 --> 01:18:54,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think the metaphor is of Vampire Survivors, Like,

1896
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:55,000
what's it saying.

1897
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 3: I think the game is saying that video games are fun, huh,

1898
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,720
And I don't think there are any metaphors with vampire fiction.

1899
01:19:07,039 --> 01:19:08,159
Speaker 4: No, never haspend.

1900
01:19:08,319 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: No, that's the crazy thing about vampires. There's no metaphor.

1901
01:19:13,159 --> 01:19:17,279
Speaker 4: They just are sarcasm. So I'm gonna guess it's a

1902
01:19:17,319 --> 01:19:23,359
sex thing. mPire is a sex thing occasionally.

1903
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 3: Look maybe just like one let me dial it back.

1904
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,279
I've read bram Stoker's Dracula. I love that book. Do

1905
01:19:29,319 --> 01:19:31,560
you think bram Stoker in his mind when he was

1906
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,279
thinking about this Dracula ords like, I'm gonna it's about sex?

1907
01:19:34,319 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: Really, I think that it doesn't matter in that case

1908
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,840
because because humans are so like saturated in sexual desire

1909
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,319
that almost anything they create, that stuff comes through. And

1910
01:19:45,319 --> 01:19:48,439
when you deal with characters that are like taking fluids

1911
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,439
from another human being and that's like their main way

1912
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,479
of doing things, like there is a inherent sexual sexuality

1913
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,159
to that stuff, fluid.

1914
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:56,359
Speaker 2: From each other.

1915
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,359
Speaker 3: Dan, But not if bram Stoker didn't mean that, now

1916
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,199
that doesn't someone just being filthy?

1917
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,039
Speaker 1: No, that doesn't matter, especially in that case that do

1918
01:20:06,039 --> 01:20:08,199
you want to hear if I could always come up

1919
01:20:08,199 --> 01:20:10,760
I feel like with a bullshit metaphor for anything, right.

1920
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 4: So it's like, tell me why the rock is about

1921
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:14,279
blow jobs?

1922
01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:18,319
Speaker 1: Well, Okay, that's that's not exactly what I meant for.

1923
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,319
Speaker 4: I was pretty cocky. I could do anything with a metaphor.

1924
01:20:22,399 --> 01:20:24,039
Speaker 1: I was saying, I could come up with a metaphor

1925
01:20:24,079 --> 01:20:27,239
for Vampire Survivors right where it's like, it's not not

1926
01:20:27,279 --> 01:20:30,199
about like the set dressing. It's about like, okay, a

1927
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:32,680
game where you you move around like like in the

1928
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,039
same way that jazz Can doesn't have like lyrics, right,

1929
01:20:36,039 --> 01:20:37,600
but you it still makes you feel stuff and like

1930
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,399
it begin makes your brain feel things when you're playing

1931
01:20:40,399 --> 01:20:42,560
this game. It's like, Okay, it's my relationship to moving

1932
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:47,039
through space and trying to manage the onslought of just

1933
01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:50,720
never ending stress. And that's very much like life and

1934
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,159
and and like your ability to be able to take

1935
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:55,199
all that information at one time and move around it

1936
01:20:55,239 --> 01:20:57,800
and become like move with the flow of that energy

1937
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,000
and move around things. You get to the get into

1938
01:21:00,119 --> 01:21:02,600
that feeling. And that could be very similar to like, Okay,

1939
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,439
if I just sort of let things go in life

1940
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,279
and I try to move with the flow. This is

1941
01:21:06,359 --> 01:21:09,119
replicating that to a certain degree. And I definitely feel

1942
01:21:09,119 --> 01:21:11,039
that way with games like that or Tetris.

1943
01:21:11,239 --> 01:21:11,520
Speaker 4: Uh.

1944
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's the kind of thing where I would

1945
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,039
beg I like to think about that sort of.

1946
01:21:15,039 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 4: Thing with games like this. But did poncol plan On

1947
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:23,800
that guy mean that one? Actually yes, really, yeah, I.

1948
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 3: Didn't feel that the creator didn't intend it. It's just

1949
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:26,840
people saying a bunch of words.

1950
01:21:27,079 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is we're talking about the art

1951
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,680
and the artist and then the interpretation of the art.

1952
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,159
Speaker 4: So then wrong if it wasn't intended.

1953
01:21:35,039 --> 01:21:37,520
Speaker 2: It's not that's actually not accurate because once the art

1954
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,039
is in the world, the interpretation can take on a

1955
01:21:40,079 --> 01:21:40,800
life of its own.

1956
01:21:41,079 --> 01:21:43,079
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, all that matters to me is how I

1957
01:21:43,079 --> 01:21:45,439
feel like. I don't care what he made it.

1958
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what the art. It does matter what

1959
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,680
the artist intended. But at some point how you interpret

1960
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,479
the art wins because it's in.

1961
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,560
Speaker 3: A way that I interpret the matrix without understanding any

1962
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,960
of what it's trying to sell. Yes, I'm interpreting it

1963
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,279
in my own reality.

1964
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:06,079
Speaker 2: All writers are crying when they realized that they cannot

1965
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:08,319
get the message through to you.

1966
01:22:08,399 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, all writers, huh, I know what it's like to

1967
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:13,880
be a writer. I held up two of my books that.

1968
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,359
Speaker 4: I put out. Those are c minus.

1969
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 3: Someone who's put out books and has maybe the authority

1970
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:26,079
on this podcast about this author, we'll.

1971
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,319
Speaker 2: See after we read that review on what the theme

1972
01:22:29,359 --> 01:22:30,279
of fight Club was.

1973
01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 4: I got a point. I can't find them on this computer.

1974
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,079
Speaker 3: I think it's not a hard drive right here, But okay,

1975
01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:36,079
maybe the break, I'll plug it in because I bet

1976
01:22:36,119 --> 01:22:37,079
it's real bad.

1977
01:22:39,239 --> 01:22:43,159
Speaker 4: During the break, I'll grab it real quick. All right, cool?

1978
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 3: That was me talking about Castle Vania, and then real

1979
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,279
quick before we go to you up at fifty, I'll

1980
01:22:48,279 --> 01:22:52,840
just mentioned like a post mortem here Astrobot, because you know,

1981
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,000
we talked since we found out this game existed, specifically

1982
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,439
like grab an Eye, Manati and then others that wanted

1983
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:02,399
to speed run it. What are your thoughts now that

1984
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,520
it's all said and done, grubcause I know you kind

1985
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,640
of fell off. I don't know if you intend I'm

1986
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:07,159
going back in.

1987
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 4: I do.

1988
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just got super busy, yeah, because it was

1989
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,199
like when I was playing, it was like all my

1990
01:23:12,319 --> 01:23:15,000
time was going towards that, and I couldn't like maintain.

1991
01:23:15,039 --> 01:23:17,920
Next I went to your house, we did the fundraiser,

1992
01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:21,359
and since then it's been hard to make it make

1993
01:23:21,399 --> 01:23:22,720
sense because I'm like I knew I had the Disney

1994
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:24,680
trip coming up, and there were other stuff happening with

1995
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,560
work that we have, all these meetings and stuff like that.

1996
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,199
So it got to a point where it was like, Okay,

1997
01:23:30,319 --> 01:23:32,359
I need to like wait until we get on the

1998
01:23:32,359 --> 01:23:34,119
other side of this. And in my mind it was

1999
01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:35,840
like when I get back from Disney's, now I'm here

2000
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,279
and I'm like, Okay, I have three levels that I

2001
01:23:38,319 --> 01:23:39,840
need to spend a lot of time with. I'll just

2002
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,520
go in there, I'll play them, I'll try to set

2003
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,319
a good time and all those see where I land

2004
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:48,319
on the global leader board, and then start looking for

2005
01:23:48,359 --> 01:23:50,159
places where I can draw time and try to get

2006
01:23:50,199 --> 01:23:51,880
down as much as possible.

2007
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 4: Where are you at, like globally for that overarching leaderboard?

2008
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,039
Do you now last I played?

2009
01:23:57,079 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 3: It was like a day or two after that last

2010
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,600
level came out and I did break into the top

2011
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,239
hundred of the overall and then I think pretty quickly,

2012
01:24:05,239 --> 01:24:05,800
I think within a.

2013
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,359
Speaker 4: Few hours that first day I fell out.

2014
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,359
Speaker 3: So if I were to guess, I'm probably between like

2015
01:24:09,399 --> 01:24:12,880
three hundred and five hundred right now TOTA. But yeah,

2016
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,319
I'm so glad that they added that cumulative thing, because

2017
01:24:15,319 --> 01:24:17,079
that is something where it's like huge, Oh for now

2018
01:24:17,079 --> 01:24:18,359
I can hang my hat on it. We're like, oh

2019
01:24:18,399 --> 01:24:19,880
you might, you know, Betelly, you might have me beat

2020
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,359
on this one, but cumulatively, you know, like I'm the

2021
01:24:22,399 --> 01:24:23,079
real winner here.

2022
01:24:23,119 --> 01:24:25,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly, Yeah, And it's true because I like

2023
01:24:25,399 --> 01:24:27,479
that's a big part of It's like having the ability

2024
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,279
to like perform in all the levels is something that

2025
01:24:29,319 --> 01:24:32,000
I think I treasure as well. So I'm gonna I'm

2026
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,760
going back into it. I want to play a lot

2027
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,800
of it. It might play a lot over Thanksgiving break here,

2028
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,680
we got some days off. I might try to, like, yeah,

2029
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,000
get something done there. That's one where it's like now

2030
01:24:41,359 --> 01:24:43,039
and then it's all out. I could just stream that

2031
01:24:43,119 --> 01:24:45,600
and play those levels over and over again. So might

2032
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,720
try to make that happen. But I like how I

2033
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,600
feel about it overall is like I think they did

2034
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,960
a pretty good job. I like all the levels they had.

2035
01:24:53,039 --> 01:24:55,119
I think that they played around with the gimmicks in

2036
01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:57,640
the right way. They used the nice spread of different

2037
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,319
kinds of tricks, and then they had like tricks within

2038
01:25:00,399 --> 01:25:04,279
those levels of like okay, think about using the ice

2039
01:25:04,319 --> 01:25:06,359
skating stuff in a way that you didn't before.

2040
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 3: It's like yeah, okay, fantastic elements in the environment. This

2041
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,720
whale will bop your head up, you know, yeah.

2042
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,199
Speaker 1: Yep, and having them like clearly like, oh they thought

2043
01:25:14,199 --> 01:25:16,239
about all this stuff and they built a really cool

2044
01:25:16,319 --> 01:25:18,920
speed running level. It's uh, you don't get that from

2045
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,560
a lot of big developers where they take their games.

2046
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 4: They're made one way and like, let's think about it.

2047
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,359
Speaker 1: If you're trying to do this as fast as possible,

2048
01:25:26,399 --> 01:25:28,960
like really as fast as possible, what could we do here?

2049
01:25:29,239 --> 01:25:31,399
And they did and they do what they did with

2050
01:25:31,399 --> 01:25:34,319
the entire game. They made an amazing experience that you

2051
01:25:34,399 --> 01:25:35,640
just kind of can't get anywhere else.

2052
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I think we're of the same mind

2053
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,079
about it, and I would love to if you get

2054
01:25:39,079 --> 01:25:41,399
into those later levels, I'd love to get back.

2055
01:25:41,239 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 4: Down there and go against you. Yeah, it's happened. I

2056
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,600
think let's let's start it back up again.

2057
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one more speed challenges between the two

2058
01:25:48,319 --> 01:25:50,399
of you, Like who who's who.

2059
01:25:50,199 --> 01:25:51,199
Speaker 4: Has more number ones.

2060
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,279
Speaker 3: Now I'll break k fave a little bit here and

2061
01:25:54,279 --> 01:25:56,600
say that I have bullshitted and acted like I've beaten

2062
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,560
grub at elements of the first Asterbot.

2063
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,520
Speaker 2: Nobody can be grub I brought this up just to

2064
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:01,039
hurt you.

2065
01:26:01,119 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 3: Well, no, that was just a preference. I was going

2066
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,600
to give him that one because it is true. He

2067
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,279
was much better than me at the first level of

2068
01:26:09,319 --> 01:26:11,279
this current game and kind of all the old ones

2069
01:26:11,319 --> 01:26:14,760
at this point. But right now, as of this recording,

2070
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:19,199
I do believe I have the best cumulative time, probably

2071
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:21,079
because the other guys haven't played the other levels.

2072
01:26:21,119 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, and was he not on the leaderboard because

2073
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,520
that doesn't not true.

2074
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: I think that you still have to beat on the

2075
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,119
third one, which I was having trouble with. So I'm

2076
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:34,199
like that. I think that's one of the things where

2077
01:26:34,239 --> 01:26:36,439
it's like, this is going to take time to like

2078
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,640
really learn this, and I don't have that right now.

2079
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,199
And that was like, oh God, so I need to

2080
01:26:40,199 --> 01:26:41,680
just put this aside because it's going to stress me

2081
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:42,760
out if I start thinking about it.

2082
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,560
Speaker 3: I love how Kayla approached that, where it's like she

2083
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,680
did that first level and recognize quickly like, oh, I'm

2084
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,159
good at this, but this is going to be so

2085
01:26:50,239 --> 01:26:53,399
frustrating and takes so much fucking time that like she

2086
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,239
just bowed out after that first one.

2087
01:26:55,279 --> 01:26:57,399
Speaker 1: Well, I mean to be let's be clear what happened there.

2088
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,960
I broke her all right, like you did.

2089
01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2090
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:05,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's seeing like an eight hour stream trying to

2091
01:27:05,039 --> 01:27:06,960
beat my time the last time I said on that

2092
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,359
and she couldn't do it and then she was done. True.

2093
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,319
I do, I feel bad, but I don't. Actually, so

2094
01:27:12,359 --> 01:27:14,720
she didn't cut your hair, Yeah she did. She got

2095
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,840
her revenge, that's true. Yeah, cut my hair in a

2096
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:19,920
gingerbread man suit.

2097
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2098
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 1: It's a good streak both place for long streams. Recently

2099
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,680
were the kids? Yes, all right, Mary, So UFO fifty,

2100
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,520
we talked about the bit of a game of the year,

2101
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,119
But have you just like fully honed in on one game.

2102
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm just playing a little bit more of it. This

2103
01:27:37,039 --> 01:27:38,319
was like a thinner week for all of us. So

2104
01:27:38,359 --> 01:27:40,520
it's like I'm bringing it up because I did put

2105
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,159
probably four more hours into Mortal, which is a very

2106
01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:47,479
specific game. I think it's the best game in UFO fifty.

2107
01:27:48,399 --> 01:27:52,880
There's a lot that I don't like. There's maybe less

2108
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,880
than ten that I'm like, hey, I could play these,

2109
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,640
and Mortal is like the one where I'm like they

2110
01:27:58,720 --> 01:27:59,640
had something here.

2111
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,119
Speaker 4: This is a cool concept.

2112
01:28:01,159 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 2: It's a fun gimmick where you like your men coming

2113
01:28:05,039 --> 01:28:07,960
down from a plane, and you have to either you

2114
01:28:08,039 --> 01:28:10,079
have to die to get through these levels, and you

2115
01:28:10,079 --> 01:28:13,319
either have to explode turn into a rock, and there's

2116
01:28:13,359 --> 01:28:16,039
lots of different ways you can die, and it's educating

2117
01:28:16,079 --> 01:28:18,439
you each level. I don't know how far you both

2118
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:24,000
have gotten, but in the later levels it's getting psychotic.

2119
01:28:24,199 --> 01:28:27,520
I'm I've made it to the final level and it

2120
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:32,359
is very difficult. You have to save your men, So

2121
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,840
I've replayed levels one through six, like right.

2122
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: Because you're the number of men that the number of

2123
01:28:38,039 --> 01:28:41,079
lives you have carries over it returns you. So if

2124
01:28:41,079 --> 01:28:44,000
you play better, you'll have more men to move for

2125
01:28:44,039 --> 01:28:44,840
the next round.

2126
01:28:45,079 --> 01:28:49,520
Speaker 2: Correct, And to the game's credit, let's say I I've

2127
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,199
played it really well and I play level three again

2128
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:56,000
and I do worse. It takes my best score, Okay,

2129
01:28:56,119 --> 01:28:58,359
so I don't ruin anything by.

2130
01:28:58,239 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 4: Trying it again.

2131
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,319
Speaker 1: So if you like played through, like you know, level five,

2132
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,119
and you will and back to level two and replay that,

2133
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,119
would that get added on top or would you have

2134
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:11,760
to then go play three, four, five again?

2135
01:29:12,119 --> 01:29:12,319
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2136
01:29:12,359 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 2: I think it's cumulative, where at the end of a

2137
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,760
level it says whether you added men or lost men, okay,

2138
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,359
And so like every time you play, there's a certain

2139
01:29:22,399 --> 01:29:24,960
amount of men you can gain, and then you have

2140
01:29:25,039 --> 01:29:27,640
to get rid of some of them, of course, but

2141
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,399
towards the end at the if you go to the

2142
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:33,079
level on the right, it'll say plus seven plus eight

2143
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:37,039
minus twenty, and so you want those to all be

2144
01:29:37,119 --> 01:29:40,119
in the plus and so the game knows if you

2145
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:42,920
go back and play two and now you're plus twelve,

2146
01:29:43,199 --> 01:29:44,880
it knows to just add those cumulatively.

2147
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,399
Speaker 4: Okay. I like that a lot. It's really nice.

2148
01:29:47,399 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 2: So it's clean because you you do get a little

2149
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,479
tired playing the same goddamn level. But I've gotten really

2150
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:56,279
good at certain levels where I've uncovered the mechanic of

2151
01:29:56,319 --> 01:29:58,760
what they wanted me to do. And that's really neat

2152
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,399
when you like see the level design and you're like

2153
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,880
why why is that there? And it's like, oh my god,

2154
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:08,600
if I clog this drain, it drains the lake, which

2155
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,159
kills the fish, and when you kill enemies you get

2156
01:30:12,199 --> 01:30:17,000
men back. Baby the hell, yeah, I'm gonna teach you. So, like,

2157
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,560
there's other ways you can manipulate the space as well.

2158
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,960
There's platforms. When you stand on them, they fall, and

2159
01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:28,479
if you turn into a rock and then you stand

2160
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,600
on your man and an enemy is coming. You can

2161
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,159
just hit it on the top of its head and

2162
01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:36,399
you kill it and you get a man back, and.

2163
01:30:36,319 --> 01:30:37,239
Speaker 4: It's shooting men.

2164
01:30:37,399 --> 01:30:40,119
Speaker 2: It's shooting enemies at you, so you can just constantly

2165
01:30:40,199 --> 01:30:42,600
kill them. And at some point the game's like, oh,

2166
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,039
you've you've figured this out, and it stops sending enemies

2167
01:30:46,079 --> 01:30:49,079
at you because you've accumulated three men out of it,

2168
01:30:49,159 --> 01:30:49,680
instead of.

2169
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 4: Oh, it's interesting.

2170
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:54,039
Speaker 2: It's got a lot of layers to it, and so

2171
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,319
there's some really interesting mechanics later on. So, like I said,

2172
01:30:58,319 --> 01:31:00,640
they get this like really fun. I don't think you've

2173
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,479
gotten to the fish. Then the fissure no freaking crazy

2174
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:08,000
because they eat you and they digest you. There's no body,

2175
01:31:08,279 --> 01:31:11,039
so you don't get to utilize your deadness, like you

2176
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,560
half have to avoid getting eaten or it's a waste

2177
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:18,079
of a body. And then there's areas in the in

2178
01:31:18,119 --> 01:31:20,760
the game where the only way to get out of

2179
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,760
the water because it's maybe like two steps high, you

2180
01:31:25,079 --> 01:31:28,319
have to drown, which is really interesting, and then you

2181
01:31:28,359 --> 01:31:30,159
can stand on your dead drought.

2182
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:35,079
Speaker 4: Oh you play the swaps floats. I don't think I

2183
01:31:35,079 --> 01:31:35,640
played Swapper.

2184
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 3: That was a thing where it's like very similar early

2185
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,119
twenty tens, but you you were basically it was a

2186
01:31:41,199 --> 01:31:43,159
sci fi type thing where you would die, but then

2187
01:31:43,199 --> 01:31:45,079
you could like use the stuff you did before and

2188
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:47,119
you know, jump on your corpse and stuff like that.

2189
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:55,199
Speaker 2: See that's the mecan't they steal these mechanics.

2190
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 4: Like you know, Ratchet and Clank.

2191
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,319
Speaker 3: One of them on PS three had this thing where

2192
01:31:57,319 --> 01:31:59,359
it's like the Clank levels where you would like record

2193
01:31:59,399 --> 01:32:01,640
Clank doing something and then you'd start as another clank

2194
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,399
and then like you know, do the things concurrently. It's

2195
01:32:04,399 --> 01:32:07,119
hard to explain, but uh yeah, yeah, this felt like

2196
01:32:07,159 --> 01:32:09,359
a weird, like almost Lemmings type take on it, like

2197
01:32:09,359 --> 01:32:11,479
a retro take on this concept.

2198
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 2: And it's getting smart. Yeah, it's getting really interesting. Now.

2199
01:32:15,319 --> 01:32:17,119
Speaker 3: I checked to see if there's speed run later boards

2200
01:32:17,119 --> 01:32:19,279
for this, and yes, the number one has beaten this

2201
01:32:19,319 --> 01:32:21,600
game in sixteen minutes and forty one seconds.

2202
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 4: Wow, I kind of Mary. Have you played Mortal too

2203
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:33,680
at all? Okay, there's a second one hul to Mortal?

2204
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,600
What how is that possible?

2205
01:32:37,039 --> 01:32:41,159
Speaker 1: It's I was like, I guess, like, are you worried

2206
01:32:41,159 --> 01:32:43,800
about like spoilers of like the lineage of games inside

2207
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:44,439
UFO fifty.

2208
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 4: I don't know how, I don't, Oh.

2209
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,359
Speaker 1: Prescireus you okay, So yeah, there's yeah, there's a lot

2210
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,840
of a sequels to the games earlier in the UFO,

2211
01:32:52,199 --> 01:32:55,079
like a library that show up later in UFO fifty.

2212
01:32:55,239 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, that's cool. I'd like to. I'd like to.

2213
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,199
Speaker 2: This is like the one that hooked me. I haven't

2214
01:33:01,239 --> 01:33:03,640
gotten hooked by any of these games that much. I've

2215
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,439
I've enjoyed some. I played Party House or Party whatever,

2216
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:07,960
the one that.

2217
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 4: You liked it, like, I have not touched that one.

2218
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,279
It's okay. I think it's fine.

2219
01:33:11,319 --> 01:33:13,319
Speaker 2: I don't think it's bad. I think it's fine. I've

2220
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,920
played it and was like interested in trying to beat it,

2221
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:20,880
but nothing's gripped me, Like Mortal has very good.

2222
01:33:21,279 --> 01:33:25,560
Speaker 1: You use the clicker game, the Alien clicker one's fun.

2223
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:28,279
Speaker 4: Yes, I've played all fifty.

2224
01:33:28,319 --> 01:33:30,119
Speaker 2: I've been through all fifty, but I think some of

2225
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:32,880
them I was like whatever and like like quit within

2226
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:33,680
like two minutes.

2227
01:33:34,239 --> 01:33:36,159
Speaker 4: I have a low tolerance.

2228
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 2: When I was just like I'm not learning all this shit,

2229
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:39,600
Like that's not happening.

2230
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,079
Speaker 3: The second I like had to go to a town

2231
01:33:41,119 --> 01:33:42,840
and talk to someone who was like, this feels like

2232
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:43,479
a JRPG.

2233
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:48,239
Speaker 4: I need to get out of herey.

2234
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 2: How does one feel intertwined with another reality and dance?

2235
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,560
Speaker 4: I see what you're doing it. I'm not gonna fall

2236
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,640
for it. No metaphors for this guy.

2237
01:34:02,079 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 1: One of the things I like about UFO fifty with

2238
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,479
the sequel stuff is like a lot of them are like, oh,

2239
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,039
this is made by the same team. They'll have like

2240
01:34:07,079 --> 01:34:09,640
either the real team or the fictional teams, like listing

2241
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,000
on the copyright. And there's a couple where it's like,

2242
01:34:12,039 --> 01:34:14,319
this is the sequel, but it's made by a different team.

2243
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,560
So I'm like, is this gonna be a very different game?

2244
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,000
And I think, yeah, sometimes that's the way they'll do it.

2245
01:34:19,079 --> 01:34:21,319
Speaker 3: So some Snakes Revenge stuff where it's like here's Metal Hero,

2246
01:34:21,399 --> 01:34:23,399
but then Snake's Revenge wasn't Kajima, you know, like I

2247
01:34:23,399 --> 01:34:24,600
think it right almost.

2248
01:34:24,319 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Exactly like that, yeah, exactly, And it's like there's said

2249
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,520
like there's a lot of like cool attention to detail

2250
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:30,960
on that side of things that I really.

2251
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,640
Speaker 4: Appreciate about UFO fifty. That's another one that I just got.

2252
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,520
Speaker 1: I need so much more time to explore all that

2253
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,039
stuff that I haven't been able to appreciate it fully.

2254
01:34:38,359 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 2: It's crazy that with the amount of not that I

2255
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:45,399
put that many hours, but for like putting eight to

2256
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:50,560
ten hours into into Mortal, I still can't beat it.

2257
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,159
I have to put more time into I need to

2258
01:34:53,239 --> 01:34:56,279
save more men in levels five through eight, because the

2259
01:34:56,319 --> 01:35:01,560
final two are motherfuckers. There's no longer a plane. That's

2260
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:02,359
the crazy one.

2261
01:35:02,399 --> 01:35:02,560
Speaker 5: Now.

2262
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 4: You know how like when you die, you.

2263
01:35:04,359 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 2: Just drop right out of the plane, right, okay, In

2264
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,479
the last two levels you come out of like a

2265
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,560
little hole, and if you die, it goes all the

2266
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:16,119
way back to the hole. You gotta go through a

2267
01:35:16,119 --> 01:35:19,079
lot of places, and there are checks brutal, there's checkpoints,

2268
01:35:19,079 --> 01:35:22,039
but it's fewer and further between, so it's a lot

2269
01:35:22,119 --> 01:35:26,119
easier for you to just burn through. Good men and

2270
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,840
just with waves and waves of good men have.

2271
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:33,199
Speaker 4: Lost their metaphor for war. You know, I think the.

2272
01:35:33,119 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 2: Real yeah, the real loss is that we were the

2273
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:37,840
men the whole time.

2274
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 4: Oh wow, problem man, you think they intended that? Damn

2275
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:50,039
it must have. It's about sex, blow jumps holes.

2276
01:35:50,279 --> 01:35:56,039
Speaker 2: Those guys are all fucking we know, going nuts.

2277
01:35:56,039 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 4: Clearly a penis just look at it.

2278
01:35:58,840 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 2: I'm going hard.

2279
01:36:00,119 --> 01:36:05,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay, absolutely, all right, I'm educated.

2280
01:36:05,119 --> 01:36:09,199
Speaker 4: Now. All right, that is it for our games this week.

2281
01:36:09,279 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 3: We do have some emails coming up, and I will

2282
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:13,319
grab this hard drive here and see if I can

2283
01:36:13,319 --> 01:36:17,399
embarrass myself. We will be back very soon. All right,

2284
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,880
We're back, and I have found my paper from Theater

2285
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,520
and Film two eighty three, my class at the University

2286
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,840
of Kansas. Uh So this is let's see if I

2287
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:30,359
understood film and metaphor in two thousand and two. This

2288
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:34,159
is my paper, Jack's Smirking Revenge, an analysis of fight Club.

2289
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,439
All Right, fight Club is a film that speaks directly

2290
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:38,239
to its generation.

2291
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 4: Shit, oh doesn't it?

2292
01:36:41,039 --> 01:36:45,359
Speaker 3: Oh No, Millions of skeptical, pessimistic young men and women

2293
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,159
cite Fight Club is their favorite movie of all time. Okay,

2294
01:36:48,199 --> 01:36:57,520
there's no source on this fight Club because it seems

2295
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:01,359
to transcend what movies generally contribute contribute to the mindset

2296
01:37:01,399 --> 01:37:03,960
of the viewer. It is a film that has changed

2297
01:37:04,039 --> 01:37:08,399
countless outlooks on life and contributed to many personal philosophies.

2298
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,680
On this paper. There's no bibliography or anything. One of

2299
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:19,079
the most brutally honest movies ever made. Fight Club spoke

2300
01:37:19,159 --> 01:37:22,920
to our generation bitter about countless promises of a successful

2301
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,439
life contrasted with the truth of reality. It spreads its

2302
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:30,880
message through a complex maze of unique editing techniques, wonderful acting,

2303
01:37:31,239 --> 01:37:34,159
perfect lighting, and one of the most effective and memorable

2304
01:37:34,199 --> 01:37:38,840
twists in movie history. Okay, I'll just give this up

2305
01:37:39,079 --> 01:37:40,119
just for the sake of brevity.

2306
01:37:40,199 --> 01:37:41,359
Speaker 4: This is a called thing.

2307
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:44,199
Speaker 1: It does sound like you're bullshit. It does sound like

2308
01:37:44,199 --> 01:37:47,840
you complete bullshit. You are just like you're like, what

2309
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:48,680
are some things it does?

2310
01:37:49,319 --> 01:37:55,319
Speaker 2: I need a third thing. It's really good act it's

2311
01:37:55,359 --> 01:37:56,600
got hot sex.

2312
01:37:56,399 --> 01:38:03,520
Speaker 1: Scenes, it's got editing lights and actors come on movies.

2313
01:38:03,359 --> 01:38:04,039
Speaker 4: Until Fight Club.

2314
01:38:04,079 --> 01:38:06,600
Speaker 3: I think I'm getting deeping in here and another break

2315
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,079
from the norm. The protagonist of the film is a

2316
01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:10,439
very flawed human being.

2317
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,119
Speaker 1: It was the first movie to have a flawed protagonist,

2318
01:38:16,159 --> 01:38:18,239
flawed character in a movie.

2319
01:38:19,079 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 2: I might even say he's almost some kind of anti hero.

2320
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 4: Why I sit here?

2321
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 3: It's similar to a clockwork orange because Edward is a

2322
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:29,960
man who is so depressed about his own life. He

2323
01:38:30,039 --> 01:38:32,560
frequents self help seminars for people with terminal cancer so

2324
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,319
we can feel better about his own. There are no

2325
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:38,359
heroes or villains in fight Club, only individuality versus conformity.

2326
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 1: Oh my, it just it does sound a lot like

2327
01:38:46,279 --> 01:38:48,760
any conversation you would have had with someone about fight

2328
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:49,600
Club in college.

2329
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,239
Speaker 4: I was that.

2330
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 3: I was that kid who watched a bunch of Tarantino

2331
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:54,439
movies in high school.

2332
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 4: Thought I undersaid movies.

2333
01:38:56,039 --> 01:38:59,359
Speaker 3: I saw some Kuber stuff and then yeah, okay, and

2334
01:38:59,359 --> 01:39:02,920
I'm just saying, like, the lighting's good, the soundtrack's good.

2335
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 4: I say it was good. You said the lighting was perfect. Mean, yeah.

2336
01:39:06,039 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 3: I literally all of my short films and shows, and

2337
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,720
so I did in college, I did not want I

2338
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:12,560
didn't use lights because they seemed.

2339
01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 4: Like too much of a hassle. It all looks like shit.

2340
01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:19,039
Speaker 3: Okay because of this reason, okay, rare occurrence of a

2341
01:39:19,039 --> 01:39:21,399
film that's noticeably better upon his second viewing. Blah blah

2342
01:39:21,399 --> 01:39:22,680
blah blah bah. Let me see I get deep in

2343
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:24,720
the final paragraph. Okay, final paragraph.

2344
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:25,560
Speaker 2: In conclusion.

2345
01:39:26,079 --> 01:39:29,279
Speaker 3: In conclusion, this film could have easily been just another

2346
01:39:29,399 --> 01:39:33,159
that simply tries to add to an individual's personal philosophy,

2347
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,239
but it is proposed and produced in such a way

2348
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:40,000
that makes it stand far out from the thematically similar films.

2349
01:39:40,359 --> 01:39:43,359
It avoided this by using big name stars, intriguing marketing,

2350
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,079
and an entirely unique package of filmmaking.

2351
01:39:46,119 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 4: What does that mean?

2352
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 3: It is a film that doesn't seem to borrow from

2353
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:52,039
any others. Rather, it invents its own in an effort

2354
01:39:52,039 --> 01:39:57,239
to spread its ideals. Every detail of the film's production

2355
01:39:57,399 --> 01:40:00,199
is unique to Fight Club and Fight Club alone. It

2356
01:40:00,279 --> 01:40:02,920
is through these measures that the message of this movie

2357
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:06,239
has reached so many people. No, I'd never what is

2358
01:40:06,279 --> 01:40:07,239
the message.

2359
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:11,119
Speaker 4: That I'm talking about. It sounds like you've never mentioned it,

2360
01:40:11,279 --> 01:40:13,319
which I don't think you did. I don't think I

2361
01:40:13,359 --> 01:40:19,439
did either. Wow. That sucks shit D minus Yeah.

2362
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:21,319
Speaker 1: I mean I think at a certain point it's like,

2363
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,640
you know, you're a professor, You get a paper like that,

2364
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:26,399
you see a million like that, What.

2365
01:40:26,359 --> 01:40:31,359
Speaker 4: Do you do club? Whatever exactly you fucking did like that.

2366
01:40:31,399 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 2: Poor professor probably had to read so many Wi Fi

2367
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,640
Club is really fucking cool.

2368
01:40:37,199 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 3: Dot doc from a bunch of kids who did not

2369
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,039
understand that it was supposed to be supposed to suck.

2370
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,079
Speaker 1: Oh. I definitely, I definitely had a community college professor

2371
01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:49,039
that was like, you could write about any movie except

2372
01:40:49,039 --> 01:40:50,199
flight Club that.

2373
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's exhausting and people are wrong.

2374
01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 1: I don't understand jezus I bet I was insufferable.

2375
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 4: Talking about movies.

2376
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean it just sounds like you're you're you wrote

2377
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,560
a paper to get a grade. Like that's what that

2378
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:09,600
paper sounds, Yes.

2379
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 4: What it was.

2380
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: And so to me, it's like this is like a

2381
01:41:13,079 --> 01:41:15,840
minor speeding ticket in douchebaggery.

2382
01:41:16,039 --> 01:41:18,239
Speaker 4: Like that's it. Like this is not that bad compared

2383
01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:20,960
to my heart is about the author. I'm looking better here.

2384
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Listen, I don't have to throw Maharty under the bus.

2385
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,359
This is your show. That's where you do that. You

2386
01:41:25,399 --> 01:41:28,960
can do that, Okay, I'm about the wine, all right,

2387
01:41:29,079 --> 01:41:30,760
that's right, Okay, Fuja dot Org.

2388
01:41:33,239 --> 01:41:36,039
Speaker 2: We'll add it to it. We'll let the audience decide.

2389
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 4: God. All right, onto the emails.

2390
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,359
Speaker 1: Uh, first one here, wait real quick, what do you

2391
01:41:42,399 --> 01:41:45,119
think so if you had to say something that Fight

2392
01:41:45,159 --> 01:41:48,800
Club is about now other than like the satire, Yeah.

2393
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 3: About just angry, toxic masculinity and trying to find meaning

2394
01:41:54,039 --> 01:41:56,520
in lives that they just didn't have anything else going on.

2395
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that was the only thing I knew.

2396
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: Try to find human connection and not knowing how to

2397
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,359
do that and so it has to come through it

2398
01:42:03,359 --> 01:42:06,439
through Yeah. Yeah, that's completely fair, completely good rating.

2399
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 5: Yep.

2400
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go back to college and get a

2401
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:12,399
new degree. I'm gonna double it. Yeah, film degree too. Yeah,

2402
01:42:13,039 --> 01:42:17,439
plus a search for Curly's gold. I wouldn't be because

2403
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,199
I wouldn't get to keep the things that I left

2404
01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:20,640
college with because I've gotten stupider.

2405
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:28,319
Speaker 2: You're just watching dumber movies. Why face off is actually

2406
01:42:28,399 --> 01:42:29,720
a cry for help?

2407
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:33,399
Speaker 4: Okay?

2408
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 5: Uh?

2409
01:42:34,199 --> 01:42:38,239
Speaker 3: First email is from Eric from Saskatchewan. If all Earthlate

2410
01:42:38,319 --> 01:42:40,479
knowledge was wiped from Earth and we had to start

2411
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:45,039
from square one, science textbooks would eventually come back unchanged

2412
01:42:45,079 --> 01:42:49,000
because science is experimentation and observation. If all games were

2413
01:42:49,039 --> 01:42:51,039
wiped out and we had to start from square one,

2414
01:42:51,319 --> 01:42:53,039
which ones do you all think would come back just

2415
01:42:53,079 --> 01:42:55,600
the same. That's Eric from Saskatchewan. That's a great email.

2416
01:42:58,239 --> 01:43:00,439
Brothers just like it, Like you know.

2417
01:43:00,399 --> 01:43:03,119
Speaker 4: It's somebody just like it, because like, isn't that the game?

2418
01:43:03,239 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: Like this is like what I was kind of getting

2419
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,079
too early about, like the the like Vampire Survivors and Tetrists,

2420
01:43:07,079 --> 01:43:08,479
like there are some things that like kind of get

2421
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:12,159
to a truth of the medium of of Like when

2422
01:43:12,159 --> 01:43:14,640
you played Super Mario Brothers, the physics felt right.

2423
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:17,159
Speaker 4: It's not, they just felt good. It feels right.

2424
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,159
Speaker 1: This is like exploring something that feels truthful about momentum

2425
01:43:21,159 --> 01:43:24,439
and physics and our interaction with those things. So I

2426
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,079
think at a certain point someone would stumble up upon

2427
01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:28,680
that because it feels right.

2428
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:33,640
Speaker 4: I agree. Like the lighting in Fight Club, it's perfect,

2429
01:43:34,039 --> 01:43:47,840
it's perfect.

2430
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 7: Battlefield Earth, perfect lighting, sick marketing.

2431
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 4: Perfect lighting, says man who doesn't know anything about lighting,

2432
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,520
who thought lights were quote as.

2433
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:02,359
Speaker 1: Unnecessary for film production, your to one hundred, God damn it.

2434
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2435
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,600
Speaker 3: I think Tetris or like you know, or even like Tetris,

2436
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:12,039
like down to the shapes almost would be like pretty similar.

2437
01:44:12,199 --> 01:44:13,359
Speaker 4: Shapes would be constructed.

2438
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 2: That's crazy, it's possibly yeah.

2439
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: Right, and like falling down a well, right because again

2440
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,199
that's like clearing lines, right, because that feels like right,

2441
01:44:20,199 --> 01:44:23,960
because it's like gravity and and it's incessant. Yeah, clearing

2442
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,359
lines because it's like, yeah, I deal with a problem

2443
01:44:26,399 --> 01:44:27,640
and now I have a new problem to deal with

2444
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:28,479
and it never stops.

2445
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2446
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 1: That's that's another like truthful thing that a video game explored.

2447
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:32,239
Speaker 4: For sure.

2448
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:34,359
Speaker 3: What about like the Battle Royale genre, like a pubg.

2449
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,000
I bet there would be another Like okay, like action

2450
01:44:37,079 --> 01:44:39,800
games will happen because they would emulate war, and then

2451
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:41,279
it's like, oh, but what if there's like a bunch

2452
01:44:41,319 --> 01:44:43,079
of them and then you had to like survival style

2453
01:44:43,159 --> 01:44:43,359
you know.

2454
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's always the instinct that a shooter would

2455
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:50,279
exist because what it what an exciting thing to be

2456
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:52,319
Like if I were to play a video game, the

2457
01:44:52,359 --> 01:44:53,840
first thing you do is be like, well, I'd want

2458
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,199
to like run around and shoot people because I can't

2459
01:44:56,239 --> 01:44:58,079
do that, you know, in real life, and this is

2460
01:44:58,079 --> 01:45:00,239
something where I get to like get those jollys out,

2461
01:45:00,319 --> 01:45:01,439
So I think that would occur.

2462
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 1: And like Battle Royal was like this idea of like

2463
01:45:04,399 --> 01:45:07,439
the Last Man standing that there's just something appealing about that.

2464
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,640
There's just like that, I just understand the the impulse there.

2465
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,520
So yeah, and like that that's what it felt like

2466
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,560
at the time. When the first like battery really clicked,

2467
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,239
Everyone's like, Yep, this is it. This is what we're

2468
01:45:17,279 --> 01:45:19,680
doing now for the next several years. Because it's just

2469
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:25,960
so easy to understand minecraft, building, yeah, building games, crand games, yes, yeah,

2470
01:45:26,159 --> 01:45:28,079
Digging like just digging down. Yeah.

2471
01:45:28,119 --> 01:45:30,399
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that sort of stuff would be a big part.

2472
01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:34,079
Speaker 3: Of its stranding one one to one and the game

2473
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:35,439
Shot for shot remake.

2474
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:39,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody's gonna make that. It's too obvious. Yeah, it's too.

2475
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,359
Speaker 1: Well, like you wipe out every Kojo would still I

2476
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:51,199
just come back because he's God's most perfect creation. Yeah,

2477
01:45:57,279 --> 01:46:02,239
Brian and Jeff Keeley. I want to see that on

2478
01:46:02,359 --> 01:46:03,560
a bootleg T shirt.

2479
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:08,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's incredible. All right. Next up, Hello, fire Escape.

2480
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:11,640
Speaker 3: Last episode or a couple ago, Dan made the comment

2481
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,920
that doctor Fernando was the official doctor a fire Escape

2482
01:46:15,279 --> 01:46:18,520
quick question for Dan, Hey, what the fuck from your

2483
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:19,720
friend doctor Ryan?

2484
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:25,640
Speaker 4: Now listen, listen doctor Ryan. When I think of.

2485
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:29,159
Speaker 3: Doctor Ryan, I think of Giant Bomb and my personal

2486
01:46:29,159 --> 01:46:31,680
stream first and foremost. That's where most of my interaction

2487
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,079
with Doctor Ryan. Almost all of my interaction, if not all,

2488
01:46:34,399 --> 01:46:38,079
has been through Personal Stream and Giant Bomb. So I

2489
01:46:38,119 --> 01:46:41,399
don't think it's a slight to doctor Ryan to have

2490
01:46:41,399 --> 01:46:44,119
have met a doctor in the flesh and talked about

2491
01:46:44,159 --> 01:46:45,720
fire Escape and it's like, all right, you're the doctor

2492
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:49,720
of fire Escape, You're not the doctor my whole life,

2493
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:50,319
Doctor Ryan.

2494
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:52,079
Speaker 4: Give this one to Fernando.

2495
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 1: Uh, you're your giant bomb twitch break right.

2496
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,079
Speaker 3: You just have to work constant, doctor Ryan. I just

2497
01:46:59,079 --> 01:47:00,680
don't want you to have to work. We do late

2498
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:02,720
nights here on fire Escape. I just want to give

2499
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,479
you a few hours off every couple of weeks.

2500
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:06,560
Speaker 4: Your fingers still hurt.

2501
01:47:07,239 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, it still doesn't spend all the way down.

2502
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:15,399
It's much better now. But yeah, it's been over here, Mary,

2503
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:17,720
I mean it's this is forever now.

2504
01:47:18,359 --> 01:47:24,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't involved. There was a self fall. I

2505
01:47:24,359 --> 01:47:27,560
can't be I can't be held liable for such or.

2506
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:31,119
Speaker 1: Karma's instrument, right, he should not have said what he

2507
01:47:31,279 --> 01:47:34,279
said about being able to eat that much mac and cheese.

2508
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,439
This is and and Karma worked through you. This is

2509
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:38,319
not your fault, Mary.

2510
01:47:39,279 --> 01:47:42,159
Speaker 4: Not legally liable, but emotionally.

2511
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 2: Yes, liable. In America, I'm always like, I wasn't even there.

2512
01:47:49,239 --> 01:47:50,520
I wasn't in the room.

2513
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 4: I saw these assholes.

2514
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:54,319
Speaker 2: Before I know what you're talking about.

2515
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 3: Tomorrow I am walking into the police station and describing

2516
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,159
this and seeing what they can do about it.

2517
01:48:00,039 --> 01:48:04,279
Speaker 2: Officer ire I don't even know who they are.

2518
01:48:05,239 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 4: How long before she can give them the double middle finger?

2519
01:48:08,399 --> 01:48:14,079
Oh you ll fuck yourself. I didn't record fucking dies break.

2520
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,079
Speaker 2: All of the bones in your body, officer.

2521
01:48:17,399 --> 01:48:20,399
Speaker 1: Damn, what would that conversation go like? Uh so on

2522
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:21,520
a podcast? Officer?

2523
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 4: I said, I could eat how much mac and cheese?

2524
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 5: Was it?

2525
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 4: I could eat a bathtub full of it? Eat a

2526
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:27,399
bat literally a bathtub full of it?

2527
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:31,159
Speaker 1: And then someone called my bluff and then I slipped

2528
01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:32,399
and fell and hurt my fingy?

2529
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,359
Speaker 4: Can we put this woman in jail? Okay? Who made

2530
01:48:36,359 --> 01:48:38,199
me a bathtub of mac and cheese? I think would

2531
01:48:38,199 --> 01:48:38,359
I have?

2532
01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:41,520
Speaker 3: Would I get laughed out quicker by the police or

2533
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,800
lawyers if I wanted to file a civics so.

2534
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:48,239
Speaker 1: Definitely, Police lawyers might talk talk me through this. Lawyers

2535
01:48:48,279 --> 01:48:49,479
might think there's some money there.

2536
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2537
01:48:50,279 --> 01:48:52,039
Speaker 4: Then I'm going to my lawyer tomorrow.

2538
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll put you in touch with Misney, which is

2539
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,279
a shout out to everyone from Cleveland. That's all ambulance chaser.

2540
01:48:58,319 --> 01:49:01,560
Speaker 4: Okay, excellent, all right, great, go after it.

2541
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 2: As I've stated my entire life.

2542
01:49:06,399 --> 01:49:07,600
Speaker 4: I don't know this man.

2543
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 3: Then there's no evidence to the contrary. Next up we

2544
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:16,239
got years ago. I asked the three of you how

2545
01:49:16,239 --> 01:49:18,279
many clones of yourself it would take to fight and

2546
01:49:18,319 --> 01:49:20,000
defeat a Mike to a Mike Tyson.

2547
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2548
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:24,239
Speaker 3: My new question to you if you could add or

2549
01:49:24,279 --> 01:49:28,039
subtract years from Mike Tyson before fighting him, at what

2550
01:49:28,159 --> 01:49:30,119
age do you think you could actually beat him at?

2551
01:49:30,359 --> 01:49:32,439
Could you beat up a fifteen year old Mike Tyson?

2552
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:36,159
What about a seventy five year old Tyson? Superno on both,

2553
01:49:36,279 --> 01:49:38,920
especially fifteen because that early put it to him. He's

2554
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:41,119
not that much older in fifteen people.

2555
01:49:41,159 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 4: Did you did you see the jack Ball fight? I

2556
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:46,439
watched it with Mary. Yeah. Yeah, we watched it right

2557
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:47,960
before we did our.

2558
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 2: Big podcast event, and we kind of there's a footage

2559
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:54,079
of us running to make sure we saw it.

2560
01:49:54,399 --> 01:49:58,119
Speaker 7: Yes, I didn't show the footage because there's like this

2561
01:49:58,279 --> 01:50:01,079
clear like us being like it's star and then there's

2562
01:50:01,119 --> 01:50:03,279
like footage of us halfway through the fight and we're like,

2563
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:05,479
oh god, damn it.

2564
01:50:07,079 --> 01:50:09,640
Speaker 2: You can tell within five minutes, not even you tell

2565
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:13,199
within like a few seconds of the first round, You're like, oh,

2566
01:50:13,359 --> 01:50:16,199
this isn't this isn't happening.

2567
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 4: This isn't it. He's not throwing any punches. I mean, like, I.

2568
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 2: Think it's a sad fight and a reflection of sad thing. Yeah,

2569
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:27,199
it's just like to me, it's it was a waste

2570
01:50:27,279 --> 01:50:28,479
of everybody's time.

2571
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:30,680
Speaker 4: Well I sent for balls.

2572
01:50:31,159 --> 01:50:33,279
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean they got a ship ton of money

2573
01:50:33,319 --> 01:50:36,119
out of it. But I think to me, we all

2574
01:50:36,199 --> 01:50:38,640
kind of got bamboozled a little bit. And do assuming

2575
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:40,680
there's going to be some kind of interesting.

2576
01:50:40,319 --> 01:50:46,239
Speaker 1: Fight, every one of these spectacle fights is always so disappointing.

2577
01:50:46,279 --> 01:50:48,640
You know, I feel like fool me. This is like

2578
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:52,399
several times now where it's like I should have known better. Yeah,

2579
01:50:53,079 --> 01:50:55,600
that's an old man. That's an old man who's been

2580
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:57,319
through it. Well, it's been a really.

2581
01:50:57,079 --> 01:51:00,119
Speaker 2: Tough year and we've been beaten down a lot, and

2582
01:51:00,159 --> 01:51:02,720
as Jake said getting off the plane, I can't take

2583
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,800
another l and I really need that guy to murder

2584
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:06,600
that YouTuber.

2585
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't want to go to YouTuber get beaten

2586
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:11,439
to a pulp. That's all we wanted to hope.

2587
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, that didn't that did not occur. I mean,

2588
01:51:15,039 --> 01:51:17,159
do you think you guys could take down Tyson in

2589
01:51:17,199 --> 01:51:17,960
his current state?

2590
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 4: No, I think if I had time to train, yes.

2591
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 3: Makes zero percent chance for me. And I also highly

2592
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:27,479
doubt Grub.

2593
01:51:28,119 --> 01:51:30,119
Speaker 1: I think that there's a strong chance still that he

2594
01:51:30,199 --> 01:51:31,239
knocks me out in one punch.

2595
01:51:31,359 --> 01:51:33,279
Speaker 4: Let's be clear. Sure, but I think if I had

2596
01:51:33,319 --> 01:51:37,920
time to train, I would have a chance. I feel drunk.

2597
01:51:38,319 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 3: Twenty two year old Mary Kish could beat a four

2598
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:43,840
year old Mike Tyson.

2599
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:45,159
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2600
01:51:45,159 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 2: Four, absolutely, Yeah, I'd kill him.

2601
01:51:48,159 --> 01:51:50,159
Speaker 4: I'd put my money on you. Yeah, what ages I

2602
01:51:50,239 --> 01:51:55,319
become picks him up and punts him? Yeah? Yeah, kurrent age? Mary?

2603
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 3: How young or how old would Mike Tyson have to

2604
01:51:57,800 --> 01:51:58,760
be for you to beat him?

2605
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,600
Speaker 2: I mean I would say tween tween Tyson. I could

2606
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:03,439
take him out at twelve?

2607
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 4: You think you could?

2608
01:52:05,119 --> 01:52:09,159
Speaker 1: I don't know as a teenager's twelve?

2609
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:10,079
Speaker 2: Twelve?

2610
01:52:10,279 --> 01:52:14,079
Speaker 4: Okay, still I don't know twelve.

2611
01:52:14,159 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 2: He hasn't developed yet cognitively, not cogetatively.

2612
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 4: I don't know what ever happened.

2613
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that he's developed his muscles at twelve.

2614
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:29,319
Speaker 3: No, but he was probably training to box, I think.

2615
01:52:29,359 --> 01:52:31,159
Let me, I want to see when he started training.

2616
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 2: What about old year old Tyson? Well, let's figure out

2617
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:37,439
the first one. He looks pretty strong.

2618
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to be I don't think there's any

2619
01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:42,520
chance you take out a twelve year old Mike Tyson.

2620
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:44,119
Speaker 4: No, I really don't think.

2621
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,600
Speaker 1: So, oh my god, he looks so I don't chance

2622
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:49,520
I could take out twelve years His first fight was

2623
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,720
with a bigger you who pulled the head off of

2624
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:53,399
one of Tyson's pigeons.

2625
01:52:53,399 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 4: Holy shit.

2626
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:57,680
Speaker 1: By okay, by the age of thirteen, So at the

2627
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,359
age of twelve or younger, he had been a rested

2628
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:01,319
thirty eight times.

2629
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,079
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, I gotta go. I gotta go younger,

2630
01:53:04,239 --> 01:53:08,399
all right, hold on, hold on, Yeah I was young,

2631
01:53:09,279 --> 01:53:11,720
let's go. Let's go with five. I think.

2632
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,119
Speaker 3: Okay, so five on the young end, I'll take that

2633
01:53:18,199 --> 01:53:21,199
as well, and then on the old end, what do

2634
01:53:21,279 --> 01:53:21,720
you now?

2635
01:53:22,199 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 4: He's fifty eight?

2636
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 2: Now fifty eight, I would say seventy.

2637
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 4: I would feel confident. At seventy, I'll say ninety and dead.

2638
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,359
Speaker 2: Would do I get like a board with a nail

2639
01:53:34,399 --> 01:53:34,720
in it.

2640
01:53:35,239 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 4: Just missing?

2641
01:53:36,119 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean I think seventy. My hope is

2642
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,039
that his heart would give out.

2643
01:53:42,239 --> 01:53:50,359
Speaker 4: Oh god, this year training videos, he looks pretty good. Yeah,

2644
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,600
he threw like two punches and got tired. I don't know.

2645
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm going five and dead and five a dead five

2646
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:58,239
year old? Yeah, you could beat up a dead five

2647
01:53:58,279 --> 01:53:58,560
year old.

2648
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 4: You're saying five dead Okay.

2649
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 2: Living five Dead Old.

2650
01:54:06,159 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 4: That's my favorite justin Timberlake album.

2651
01:54:08,039 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 3: By the way, Uh, finally here we got When was

2652
01:54:14,039 --> 01:54:16,800
the last time any of you watched Team America World Police?

2653
01:54:17,159 --> 01:54:19,279
That movie kind of holds up in some weird ways,

2654
01:54:19,319 --> 01:54:23,279
and super doesn't, and others like mcgroober that's joke from

2655
01:54:23,279 --> 01:54:26,720
New York. Now, I do take serious umbrage with the mcgroovers.

2656
01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:30,199
I do too, because mcgruber's knows what it's doing.

2657
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 1: Every joke, every joke, it knows what it's doing, and

2658
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:36,279
it's deliberately delivering them in the way it does because

2659
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,960
it like, that's the joke. Uh, World Police was like,

2660
01:54:40,439 --> 01:54:43,680
wouldn't be funny if it was the Film Actors Guild

2661
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:45,439
instead of the Screen Actors Guild.

2662
01:54:45,479 --> 01:54:47,159
Speaker 4: And then we use that word a bunch of times.

2663
01:54:47,159 --> 01:54:48,520
It's like I forgot that bit.

2664
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:51,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's a bunch of the accents and stuff

2665
01:54:51,239 --> 01:54:53,600
that probably like a lot of the accents that can.

2666
01:54:53,479 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: Be heavily like relies on racist tropes, but in.

2667
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,079
Speaker 3: A way that like I think South Park typically tried

2668
01:55:02,119 --> 01:55:04,199
to do by being like, oh, we're being so over

2669
01:55:04,239 --> 01:55:06,039
the top with it that it's like we're making fun

2670
01:55:06,079 --> 01:55:07,720
of the racism. But I think even that now is

2671
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:09,840
just kind of like seeing this lazy And I don't think.

2672
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 2: They were making fun of the racism. I think they

2673
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:15,279
were relishing in the racism.

2674
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:17,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, the song is.

2675
01:55:17,279 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: Not like, oh, we're being tongue in cheek about this.

2676
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:25,039
You're just making a joke about how people are, you know,

2677
01:55:25,279 --> 01:55:27,760
how people can communicate and say there're r's and l's.

2678
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:32,000
Like that's not that. Yeah, it's the whole fucking song. Yeah,

2679
01:55:32,079 --> 01:55:32,920
it does not hold up.

2680
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 4: There's no way.

2681
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:36,359
Speaker 2: There's no way that movie holds up. But as far

2682
01:55:36,439 --> 01:55:38,640
as to say, I I don't know. I mean, I

2683
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,359
think like they go so far with it, the thing

2684
01:55:41,479 --> 01:55:44,680
like that makes I also disagree with this, Like I

2685
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:48,000
think mcgruber does hold up because there's an element to

2686
01:55:48,079 --> 01:55:52,760
how you can use cursing that accentuates a sentence and

2687
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:56,359
makes it funny. I'll give you an example, like in mcgroober,

2688
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:59,439
they ask like about the team, and he's like, it's

2689
01:55:59,479 --> 01:56:02,000
a bunch of fucking good guys, and like the way

2690
01:56:02,079 --> 01:56:06,199
he adds fucking adds to that sentence. It adds to

2691
01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:09,239
the comedic value. It also tells you about something about

2692
01:56:09,279 --> 01:56:14,680
who he is as a character. Whereas in uh, Team America,

2693
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:19,359
they use fucking almost every sentence all the time, and

2694
01:56:19,439 --> 01:56:23,439
I think it just exhausts itself to the where it

2695
01:56:23,479 --> 01:56:25,479
has it has lost on me, right right.

2696
01:56:25,479 --> 01:56:28,079
Speaker 1: They're like, it's it's funny if these puppets are swearing. Sure,

2697
01:56:28,159 --> 01:56:29,560
this is like based on the Kids Show. And then

2698
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:31,199
they just kind of went that that that was the

2699
01:56:31,199 --> 01:56:31,640
whole movie.

2700
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you believe these puppet these puppets, These puppets

2701
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:41,319
are saying fuck every sentence, Whereas mcgruber is a real

2702
01:56:41,359 --> 01:56:45,119
piece of ship and so he's around regular people and

2703
01:56:45,159 --> 01:56:46,279
he just can't help himself.

2704
01:56:46,439 --> 01:56:48,199
Speaker 4: He's aggressive, asshole and.

2705
01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:50,319
Speaker 2: Yes, there are a bunch of fucking really great guys.

2706
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:53,319
Speaker 3: The second the second part of that line is it's

2707
01:56:53,359 --> 01:56:55,399
after the funerals and he's looking out the window of

2708
01:56:55,399 --> 01:56:58,199
the sunglasses and he's like, there were fucking great guys

2709
01:56:58,279 --> 01:57:01,680
and this is a fucking asshole a day.

2710
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:07,239
Speaker 2: There's something about it that I think does work that

2711
01:57:07,439 --> 01:57:10,319
I just don't think Team America had. And I think

2712
01:57:10,359 --> 01:57:13,279
in retrospect because I used to be a real big

2713
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:18,239
advocate of that group and South Park, and I still

2714
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:21,159
look at some of the old episodes with nostalgia because

2715
01:57:21,199 --> 01:57:23,000
it was powerful to me, and we used to not

2716
01:57:23,079 --> 01:57:24,960
miss an episode of South Park when it came on,

2717
01:57:25,039 --> 01:57:27,720
like you had to see it when it was like

2718
01:57:28,239 --> 01:57:31,359
launching on Comedy Central. And I look back on a

2719
01:57:31,359 --> 01:57:33,319
lot of it and it's just like, it just doesn't

2720
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:35,680
It's not as smart as I thought it was. It's

2721
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:42,479
not as thoughtful. But these joke films like hot Shots,

2722
01:57:43,159 --> 01:57:47,600
hot Shots Part do this film, they do hold up

2723
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:50,399
because there are moments in time that are very thoughtful.

2724
01:57:50,399 --> 01:57:52,279
I think they're actually very smart in the way they're

2725
01:57:52,319 --> 01:57:55,439
written to play with these characters and these tropes. They're

2726
01:57:55,479 --> 01:57:59,600
not just edgy catchphrases to shock you.

2727
01:58:00,039 --> 01:58:02,079
Speaker 3: That's the thing, and the one thing that I'll even

2728
01:58:02,119 --> 01:58:04,359
like other mcgrooover fans sometimes a point is like the

2729
01:58:04,359 --> 01:58:06,800
one joke that doesn't hold up is the one where

2730
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:07,840
he's putting the team.

2731
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 4: Together and he's like, okay, I got anyp I got

2732
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:10,239
a mark.

2733
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 3: It's all the wrestlers, and he gets the Big Show

2734
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:14,560
and he's like, oh, the Big Show, Hell yeah, and

2735
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:16,960
then Big Show makes out with the guy and then

2736
01:58:17,079 --> 01:58:19,640
mcgroober freaks out and crosses his name out. I will

2737
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:23,000
say the joke there is that mcgrooper fucking sucks and

2738
01:58:23,039 --> 01:58:26,640
of course he's homophobic, like you know, yes he is.

2739
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,600
Speaker 1: He is the one asshole in a world of like

2740
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:31,680
regular people that are just doing their thing and just

2741
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:34,359
like are actually competent and doing their jobs. And so

2742
01:58:34,479 --> 01:58:38,239
him being the worst in every situation, including like morally,

2743
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:42,239
is the joke and rules it's funny. Yeah, it's not haha,

2744
01:58:42,279 --> 01:58:44,239
Big Show's gay. The joke is like, oh, of course

2745
01:58:44,279 --> 01:58:45,119
he's a homophobe too.

2746
01:58:45,199 --> 01:58:47,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, of course he'd be afraid to work with

2747
01:58:47,359 --> 01:58:50,399
a gay man. Yes, yes, exactly. So now i've i've

2748
01:58:50,399 --> 01:58:50,800
hauled up.

2749
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:54,159
Speaker 3: I mean mcgroover is twenty ten, it's fifteen years old almost,

2750
01:58:54,239 --> 01:58:57,479
and we just watch half of it a week ago, Mary.

2751
01:58:57,319 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, or we did watch half of it before.

2752
01:59:00,039 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 4: Can Jake fell asleep because it was four in the

2753
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:02,880
morning or something.

2754
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 2: Aggressively picked Mike's nose.

2755
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,920
Speaker 4: That was decker, That was decker. Yeah, Jake went nuts.

2756
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:12,199
Speaker 2: Your finger was in there and he rubbed it in

2757
01:59:12,279 --> 01:59:13,119
his mouth.

2758
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 3: So grubbed myself. I thought he would do. He was

2759
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:23,640
playing a little game of chicken with me. I thought

2760
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:25,800
he was because like he was asleep and I was like,

2761
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:27,279
who's gonna put my binger in your.

2762
01:59:27,199 --> 01:59:31,920
Speaker 1: Nose the way most people like chicken asleep and without consent.

2763
01:59:32,079 --> 01:59:35,119
Speaker 4: Go on, Yeah, I got to put I'm gonna put

2764
01:59:35,159 --> 01:59:35,640
in his nose.

2765
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 3: And he wasn't moving, and I like just barely, like

2766
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:40,720
kind of touched here. And he's like, Oh, he's fucking

2767
01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:40,960
with me.

2768
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,079
Speaker 1: He's gonna see if I if I got the guts

2769
01:59:43,079 --> 01:59:43,840
to keep going.

2770
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:46,199
Speaker 3: And I just kept moving, and I instantly was like,

2771
01:59:46,319 --> 01:59:47,840
I don't want to keep going. I hope he gives

2772
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:50,520
up on this. I don't want to keep putting. And

2773
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:53,279
I got my finger pretty far up his nose and

2774
01:59:53,319 --> 01:59:54,640
he didn't sell it at all.

2775
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 4: Oh, because he was actually asleep. I think he was working.

2776
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:06,039
Speaker 2: Sleep and then you take it out, laugh, put it

2777
02:00:06,039 --> 02:00:07,880
in his mouth, and then you do it again.

2778
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 3: So what's the defense For the second time? I thought

2779
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:17,279
he was playing double Chicken.

2780
02:00:17,479 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 1: Double Chicken car, double Chickens, the classic double Chicken.

2781
02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:23,720
Speaker 2: Classic, double Sleepy Chicken.

2782
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:28,159
Speaker 4: That's a trademark. Yeah, of course he loves that shit. Yeah.

2783
02:00:28,239 --> 02:00:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Joe, you're wrong.

2784
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:33,359
Speaker 4: But I do think that.

2785
02:00:35,319 --> 02:00:37,680
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Team America in years. Actually don't have

2786
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:38,359
a desire to.

2787
02:00:39,279 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, I meanbe I saw a YouTube

2788
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:45,840
video that was like talking about it, and so I

2789
02:00:46,359 --> 02:00:49,039
started watching again and I'm like, Okay, Nope, this really

2790
02:00:49,079 --> 02:00:50,239
really really doesn't hold up.

2791
02:00:50,279 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 4: Yep.

2792
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:52,479
Speaker 3: Last I probably saw it was in like two thousand

2793
02:00:52,479 --> 02:00:54,880
and six with Kayla. I remember like, oh, she should

2794
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:55,199
see this.

2795
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Speaker 4: I agree with you, Joe, there are parts of it

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02:00:57,359 --> 02:00:58,000
that do hold up.

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Speaker 1: I think the first parts of the first half of

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02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:02,079
the movie is like pretty good, and then it just

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02:01:02,119 --> 02:01:05,039
like all the jokes run their course and everything just

2800
02:01:05,039 --> 02:01:06,720
gets run on the ground, and then they do the

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02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:09,159
thing they always do where it's just like, now, let's

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tell you why we really need America to protect us

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from these savages.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh my god.

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02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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02:01:15,399 --> 02:01:18,359
Speaker 3: Maybe at its best when it's like mocking that post

2807
02:01:18,439 --> 02:01:21,640
nine to eleven ultra nationalism stuff, where's the freedom Isn't Free?

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02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 4: Song and all that exactly, that stuff does hold up. Yeah.

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02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the America fuck yeah. I think some of

2810
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:30,680
those songs probably still have some value in the sense of,

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02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:35,239
like you're making fun of america imperialism and our war system.

2812
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:38,800
There's there's jokes to be had about how right.

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02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:41,039
Speaker 1: Team America shows up to like save the day from

2814
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the terrorists, and in doing so, they're destroying the countries

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02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:45,479
that they're in and stuff like that, and they don't

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02:01:45,479 --> 02:01:48,000
even notice it, and they're like just fuck yeah, It's

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02:01:48,039 --> 02:01:50,399
like all that stuff does work, and then it just

2818
02:01:50,479 --> 02:01:50,920
keeps going.

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02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:52,880
Speaker 3: I just remember the joke though, that holds up pretty

2820
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,600
well where the guy wants to sleep with the lady

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02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:57,920
puppet and she's like, no, I can't, you know, you'll

2822
02:01:58,079 --> 02:02:00,680
you'll die, just like you know, my or whatever, and

2823
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,399
he's like, I can only sleep with you if you

2824
02:02:02,399 --> 02:02:04,600
can promise me you'll never die, and he just straight

2825
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:12,720
face turns there's like, I promise I will never die.

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02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:18,359
Speaker 2: Now, there's a really interesting metaphor in that film, Oh

2827
02:02:19,359 --> 02:02:22,399
about dick's fucking pussies.

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02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:24,720
Speaker 4: Oh god, that's the whole speech, isn't it.

2829
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 1: America long You need a dick because an asshole can't

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02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:31,680
fuck a pussy?

2831
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:32,880
Speaker 4: Right, Let's say, oh my god?

2832
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, you are really really impressed by your metaphor here.

2833
02:02:38,279 --> 02:02:41,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have a college essay about dick's fucking

2834
02:02:41,279 --> 02:02:43,600
pussies because assholes can't fuck pussies.

2835
02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:46,399
Speaker 4: I don't know if newspaper here.

2836
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 2: In this essay, I will explain I'm looking at your

2837
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:53,119
camera right now.

2838
02:02:53,119 --> 02:02:54,439
Speaker 4: Did you steal that book from my house or did

2839
02:02:54,439 --> 02:02:55,119
you buy that?

2840
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:58,920
Speaker 1: I bought it while sitting in that chair at your

2841
02:02:59,199 --> 02:03:01,079
You don't care, yep, I remember you look at it.

2842
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:03,119
Speaker 4: Take that from me? Yep.

2843
02:03:03,479 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 1: I literally was just like, I'm gonna stand up, but

2844
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:06,960
I really want to keep reading this book, but I'm

2845
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:08,840
just gonna buy it right now and then downstairs.

2846
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, books and sixty four companion.

2847
02:03:11,159 --> 02:03:11,439
Speaker 5: Uh huh.

2848
02:03:11,439 --> 02:03:13,159
Speaker 4: It's a fun one day. That make them joined quite

2849
02:03:13,159 --> 02:03:14,239
a bit. Yeah, a lot of good a lot of

2850
02:03:14,239 --> 02:03:15,079
good stories in there.

2851
02:03:15,199 --> 02:03:18,680
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, grub, thank you so much for short

2852
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:20,720
notice joining us here, you know.

2853
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem. Love love to be on the show. Yeah, oh,

2854
02:03:24,079 --> 02:03:24,680
I don't know.

2855
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:28,600
Speaker 1: We'll be doing some Uh we got the BombCast tomorrow.

2856
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:30,520
Speaker 4: Tune in for that game this morning.

2857
02:03:31,319 --> 02:03:34,720
Speaker 3: Six days in the past or seven days.

2858
02:03:35,319 --> 02:03:37,399
Speaker 1: I have nothing going on that I get. I'm gonna

2859
02:03:37,439 --> 02:03:39,720
be deeply unemployed, so yeah, don't worry about it.

2860
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:42,560
Speaker 3: We have to do our countdown to the Game Awards first,

2861
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:43,600
So that's right.

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02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:46,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, people that we could talk about that now, countdown

2863
02:03:46,199 --> 02:03:49,800
to the Game Awards, which apparently I'm involved in somehow.

2864
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:51,680
So yeah, Greb, we should have a meeting or six

2865
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:54,760
hundred about that, you know what, I say, six hundred

2866
02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:56,520
and one just to be sure.

2867
02:03:57,239 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a month. Yes, it's been NonStop, but

2868
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:03,880
yeah it seems like a big deal. We're ready to help.

2869
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:08,079
We'll do on part for God in Country. Yeah, absolutely.

2870
02:04:08,119 --> 02:04:09,359
All right, Mary, what do you got?

2871
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:13,960
Speaker 2: I am still streaming every Monday and right now I'm

2872
02:04:14,039 --> 02:04:16,319
trying to get through Silent Hill too, and I'm having

2873
02:04:16,359 --> 02:04:20,119
a great time. So if you like spoopy scary games,

2874
02:04:20,159 --> 02:04:22,159
this is the time to get on the Silent Hill

2875
02:04:22,159 --> 02:04:24,760
to train. It's a blast. I'm I'm really having a

2876
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:25,560
lot of fun with it.

2877
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 4: So every month glad to hear that. Yeah, what about it.

2878
02:04:29,359 --> 02:04:31,439
Speaker 3: I'm doing same stuff as Grob with the giant bomb

2879
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:34,800
stuff and then Instagram and I'm on Blue Sky now.

2880
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,600
I'm a Dan Record dot Com on Blue Sky, so

2881
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:39,439
you can find me there. I'm actually kind of liking it,

2882
02:04:39,479 --> 02:04:41,000
so maybe I'll be over there a little more than

2883
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:42,800
I was on Twitter for the last few years. But

2884
02:04:43,319 --> 02:04:45,560
that's all I got for now, and that is it

2885
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:47,399
for this episode of The Fire's Good Cast.

2886
02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 1: Real quick, I did see you got Dan Record dot

2887
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:51,560
Com on there, and so that inspired me to go

2888
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:52,680
get grub dot.

2889
02:04:52,479 --> 02:04:57,720
Speaker 4: WTF on blue Sky, so the registered domain.

2890
02:04:57,920 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 1: While while waiting for my kids to get done sho

2891
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,720
opping a Disney World, I was like, I'll just get

2892
02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:02,960
this right now and go for it.

2893
02:05:03,039 --> 02:05:08,039
Speaker 4: So coming to DNS settings and yeah, exactly, and it

2894
02:05:08,119 --> 02:05:08,960
didn't work. For a minute.

2895
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, gosh, I can't figure this whatever, And then

2896
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:12,439
eventually the next day I think it just clicked in

2897
02:05:12,479 --> 02:05:13,119
place and worked.

2898
02:05:13,279 --> 02:05:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, grub dot w t F on Blue Sky. Oh

2899
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:17,000
hell yeah, all.

2900
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:19,840
Speaker 3: Right, we're out of here. Thanks so much, Mary and Jeff.

2901
02:05:20,079 --> 02:05:20,960
Goodbye everyone.

2902
02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:25,920
Speaker 4: Bye. I forgot flip Patreon. If this is still in

2903
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:27,319
the episode, go to our patron. We put up an

2904
02:05:27,319 --> 02:05:28,159
neckleplin in a web video.

2905
02:05:28,479 --> 02:05:32,600
Speaker 2: But also we have merch and uh our social channels

2906
02:05:32,600 --> 02:05:33,720
and don't forget to rate us stars.

2907
02:05:33,800 --> 02:06:03,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, just all s in the last episode, step stop