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Speaker 4: We spoke about it at the end of the first hour.
Speaker 4: But the Arizona women's basketball team defeated U n OV
Speaker 4: seventy five to sixty six yesterday to improve two four
Speaker 4: and oho on the season.
Speaker 2: So what they were down, I guess in the fourth
Speaker 2: quarter and they came back right and went at home.
Speaker 3: Was what was the reason? Did someone get hot?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know, somebody got hot.
Speaker 6: Some tough rebounding, They created turnovers Idea Burnes basketball in
Speaker 6: terms of getting out there and pressing and creating the turnovers.
Speaker 6: The leader of fastwak points.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2: The that star girl who was hurt last year you
Speaker 2: didn't play due Yeah, yeah, I wonder how she did.
Speaker 6: You know, she's been coming off the bench but playing well.
Speaker 6: Kind of getting back to for him.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Kansas defeated in Michigan State seventy seven to sixty nine,
Speaker 4: and Kentucky defeated Duke seventy seven to seventy two in
Speaker 4: the State Farm Champions Classic in Atlanta last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't see the first game. I saw
Speaker 2: the second game, a very good game. Ker obviously doing
Speaker 2: Kurr things in the flag. And the other kid's good too,
Speaker 2: the other freshman I can't remember his name from Duke,
Speaker 2: whatever his name is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they also had the transfer from Purdue that
Speaker 6: plays very well for them as well for Duke.
Speaker 2: Uh oh, sorry, that's for Kansas.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeahh okay, but yeah, you know Cooper Flag, that's
Speaker 6: you know, we all talk about it. He's everything we
Speaker 6: all and all. Yeah, dude, basketball right now, And did.
Speaker 2: You see that? I mean he's good obviously. Obviously I'm
Speaker 2: in my naked iceerre the first round draft pick, the
Speaker 2: top ten, big top five, maybe the first guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's very talented, but you know what, he's a freshman. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he had two flubs in the final minutes, final minute
Speaker 2: on twenty seconds. Yeah, that custom the game right away,
Speaker 2: you know, here on this show or in mini shows,
Speaker 2: like this, Troy, I say that we're all seismologists because
Speaker 2: we can talk about the earth Creek after it's happened,
Speaker 2: not before it's happened. Right, And what's not to expect
Speaker 2: the freshmen, no matter how good you are, to make
Speaker 2: some mistakes, and seniors to make some mistakes. They're asking
Speaker 2: him to do a lot. So if you carry the
Speaker 2: ball a lot, guess what could happen?
Speaker 6: You could fumble, especially at what six seven, six eight? Yeah,
Speaker 6: trying to go amongst the guards and not have the
Speaker 6: ball slip out. And you know what if you're due. Yes,
Speaker 6: they're very good, but you might be limited on how
Speaker 6: good you could be because of that.
Speaker 2: Well, and then again, what's today exactly? Third game?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 3: Third game?
Speaker 2: What does it matter?
Speaker 3: March?
Speaker 2: You can go twenty and ten, you can do whatever.
Speaker 2: And everybody knows that Arizona fans hold their hats on this.
Speaker 2: Finish fifth in the league and win the title. Do
Speaker 2: you remember you finished fifth in the league? Hey, I know,
Speaker 2: you just like to talk about it when you're fifth
Speaker 2: in the league and you're going to the tournament saying
Speaker 2: we did it in ninety seven, maybe we could do
Speaker 2: it again. Yeah, yeah, you know, am I you hear it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly doesn't matter if you're a one seed, No, two, three,
Speaker 6: four or five.
Speaker 2: There was one and you saw this and I'm not
Speaker 2: begging on them, but it's the fact there was Almos
Speaker 2: the team most to lose or that has lost the
Speaker 2: most as a higher seed ever.
Speaker 3: In the tournament.
Speaker 6: I think most losses as the number two seed as well.
Speaker 6: And you know what, but yeah, Arizona has the most
Speaker 6: in terms of upsetting number one seeds in the tournament,
Speaker 6: the most historic runs in that sure as a four seed.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: What does it matter to me? That'll that on a
Speaker 2: nickel gets you a nickel? But my point, it doesn't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it doesn't. None of it does until March. Yeah, okay, Henry, sorry,
Speaker 2: sort of slow you down.
Speaker 4: It came out today that Spurs coach Greg Polovitch suffered
Speaker 4: a mild stroke on November two and is expected to
Speaker 4: make a full recovery.
Speaker 2: There is no timeline for when he will return to coaching.
Speaker 2: Yeah did it say when? Was he yet on the
Speaker 2: court or was he at home or something? I didn't
Speaker 2: say where.
Speaker 3: He didn't say where.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my biggest fear, My biggest fear don't get old, Troy,
Speaker 2: don't get old guys. I'll just stay at twenty nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, hell I almost.
Speaker 2: It was so bad for me yesterday almost kissed in
Speaker 2: the area. Yes, I mean accidentally, but I didn't.
Speaker 4: The Colts announced today that they will go back to
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson as the starter over Joe Flaka.
Speaker 3: What do they have to lose exactly?
Speaker 2: Why Why wasn't he.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's going to quit on him? He said
Speaker 3: he was tired.
Speaker 6: No, I get it, I get it, And he shouldn't
Speaker 6: have said that. He should have He should have just say, hey,
Speaker 6: I had some treatment I needed to get. I wasn't
Speaker 6: one hundred per You make up something. But what does
Speaker 6: Flak get even if Flacco got them joy of playoffs?
Speaker 2: What does that get you long term? Well, and that's why, obviously,
Speaker 2: that's why they're doing it. They have to figure out
Speaker 2: what the young quarterback can do. If they can't do,
Speaker 2: if he can't do what they think he can do,
Speaker 2: guess well, he's he's gone and get somebody else. What's
Speaker 2: my saying from last week and my news saying, in fact,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy a hat with it. We live in
Speaker 2: a good or begune world, Yeah, be good or be gone.
Speaker 2: And that's my andy lopus that line.
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers came out today and said that he does
Speaker 4: plan on playing next year in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Everybody, I want to admit something, I am a jerk. No,
Speaker 2: that's too easy.
Speaker 3: No, but I think everybody knows that already.
Speaker 6: Yeah, is he the most unlikable Hall of Fame quarterbacking?
Speaker 7: Quite?
Speaker 2: Oh? I thought you were gonna say something else, unlike ok,
Speaker 2: so again your question.
Speaker 6: As a Hall of Fame he's going to be a
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame quarter one of the greatest quarterbacks of
Speaker 6: all time? Is he the most unlikable in terms of
Speaker 6: just personality where everybody's like, you know what, screw that guy?
Speaker 2: Probably? I thought you were gonna say, is he the
Speaker 2: most unlikable athlete? Right now, I'll give you that answer, yes,
Speaker 2: that question. No really, yeah, yeah, I'll give you one.
Speaker 3: Jack Paul.
Speaker 2: They want they yeah, yeah, because he's a boxer. They
Speaker 2: want they want Tyson to beat the crap out of
Speaker 2: Friday Night.
Speaker 3: They will, he will, he will.
Speaker 2: Well, we can only hope, but I mean it's it's
Speaker 2: an exhibition fight, but people are hoping that will happen.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like a politician. If you don't like them, whatever,
Speaker 2: they're not gonna vote for you. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: That's good. I'm just saying that the major, like the main.
Speaker 2: I get it, but I thought that's what you're gonna
Speaker 2: go with. Is he the most unlikeable? Well, no, Jake Paul.
Speaker 2: They want him to you want him to lose, to
Speaker 2: shut up. Is that because Tyson's so well liked.
Speaker 3: I don't know. No, probably probably because they don't like
Speaker 3: Jake Paul.
Speaker 4: It was revealed today that the homes of Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 4: and Travis Kelsey were burger last month, according to police reports.
Speaker 2: Right, that's okay.
Speaker 6: They have some reps throw some flags on those guys,
Speaker 6: so they'll be okay.
Speaker 2: Financially, did you say what the took I think it said.
Speaker 4: The loss was around twenty thousand dollars each cash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, only cash too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look you have two bucks in my house.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't got twenty thousand dollars just sitting around
Speaker 6: on the coffee table.
Speaker 2: I think I can change. I got about that. That's
Speaker 2: all I got. But they have to take the change
Speaker 2: to the to the Walmart to get in the machine,
Speaker 2: you know, to count it to count. But you know
Speaker 2: my car, my car might be worth that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not laying around. Well, it's got a lot of miles,
Speaker 2: I'm told, yeah it does. Yeah, so okay, it's good
Speaker 2: quality miles. Yeah, and I'm dripping with you. Where where
Speaker 2: are we gone? We've gone to La?
Speaker 3: Where do we go? Vegas?
Speaker 2: What did you drive Vegas?
Speaker 3: You're my uber? You and Brian Peterson Amoni in Vegas?
Speaker 2: Twice?
Speaker 3: Did we?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You drove?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How do I put my trust in you?
Speaker 2: Guys? I put my trust in you to drive my
Speaker 2: car to take a little lat you did. I don't
Speaker 2: even remember that. Yeah, it was scary, but you know
Speaker 2: you slept like a baby.
Speaker 3: Stuff like a baby.
Speaker 2: Henry, don't get old, man, don't get old, and don't
Speaker 2: become a journalist.
Speaker 3: Sorry it's too late.
Speaker 2: Device.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd be a business man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody else you can get time. We got about
Speaker 2: seven minutes. You guys want to call, please do five
Speaker 2: to two oh four one six seventy four forty uh
Speaker 2: Like I said to tea money, If you want to
Speaker 2: call in, please do. We didn't get your conversation on
Speaker 2: the air, but I listened to you and I told
Speaker 2: Troy what you were saying, and we both agree with
Speaker 2: you that this is not on not entirely. I think
Speaker 2: there's some there's some I Noah, and and well, you
Speaker 2: know the I would say, if it's a one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: I like percentages. Of course, everyone knows that coach seventy
Speaker 2: five percent, and the rest players and a little bit
Speaker 2: more to know because he's the quarterback.
Speaker 6: I'd go seventy five percent, coaches, ten percent injuries and
Speaker 6: the cats on the players.
Speaker 3: Fifteen percent of injury on the players. Yeah, okay, I don't.
Speaker 2: Blame the players as much. And you had all the
Speaker 2: right pieces, yet you have the same pieces last year.
Speaker 3: Really, if you okay again.
Speaker 6: Except for Jacob calling okay and and Jordan Morgan on
Speaker 6: the offensive line, you returned most of your starting line.
Speaker 6: You returned a better backfield than last year on paper
Speaker 6: at least. And then yeah, tetro omen, I know if
Speaker 6: you got everything set on offense, and yet that's been
Speaker 6: the biggest detriment where defensively you were replacing pieces and
Speaker 6: they look better at times and last years defense before
Speaker 6: they got.
Speaker 2: The offense is just kind of just bland. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's like a bit like a Brendan Press covers.
Speaker 6: It's very vanilla. Yeah, they could put a cup of
Speaker 6: coffee to sleep. Oh wow, I've never heard that one before.
Speaker 6: And see how that happens. Just don't put it in
Speaker 6: the percolator. Yeah, okay, luckily you don't write that way.
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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I'm you want to read me?
Speaker 2: I'm tired of writing. Uh okay, so it's a four nine.
Speaker 2: We got about five minutes. What do you want to
Speaker 2: do here? We talked more about anything else, anything else
Speaker 2: on the periphery with the Arizona sports or anything going on.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I know that National Signing Day today? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they they signed somebody.
Speaker 6: Yeah, baseball had theirs softball basketball? Uh you know Arizona base,
Speaker 6: Arizona basketball. Uh, you know, kind of a boring national
Speaker 6: signing dude. This one dude, five star recruit, he talked
Speaker 6: about him, tell me, yeah, you know. Uh, he's the
Speaker 6: guy that Arizona is really fond of and looks to
Speaker 6: be a key piece moving forward. But he is very young,
Speaker 6: very raw, five star kid and Dwayne our Stead our
Speaker 6: Instead where's he from?
Speaker 3: He is?
Speaker 2: He is from New Hampshire, New Hampshire. Is not an
Speaker 2: international guy.
Speaker 6: No, and you know, six foot seven and eighty pounds
Speaker 6: for slash guard. Could add a little weight there, but
Speaker 6: probably not gonna play right away.
Speaker 3: And that's that's that's what I'm sure that's okay.
Speaker 6: But they like his tools, they like his what he
Speaker 6: mentioned and he mentions with a lot of his records
Speaker 6: high basketball IQ, right, I think that's one of the
Speaker 6: main things they look for.
Speaker 2: I love that too, because that goes on unappreciated. Oh,
Speaker 2: I appreciated because some of Arizona's best basketball teams had
Speaker 2: a lot of IQ because they do have to play together.
Speaker 6: And this isn't a knock on the Sean Miller era
Speaker 6: in general, but how many of those five star recruits
Speaker 6: like your Alonzo Triers and stuff like that. Did you say, oh,
Speaker 6: that guy's got a high bass like you're Stanley Johnson's.
Speaker 6: Not very many, not very many.
Speaker 2: The one who who was very high IQ was a
Speaker 2: no star or two star or one star. TJ McConn, Yeah,
Speaker 2: TJ McConnell, Yeah, yeah, Solomon Hill, although he was probably
Speaker 2: a loot recruit.
Speaker 3: And then he came here, I.
Speaker 6: Would say, Aaron Gordon and yeah, what's his name, Ronde
Speaker 6: Hollis Jefferson, very high defensive i Q.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stud to basketball stud. Yeah, yeah, no question.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: I thought the kid that was here and he went
Speaker 2: to buy U was Barcelo was one of those guys
Speaker 2: similar to TJ a little bit. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 2: he And I even mentioned this with Sean that I
Speaker 2: thought that I saw a little Sean and him when
Speaker 2: Shawn was playing to a very gritty, gutty guy and
Speaker 2: and and and my and and and Sean looked at
Speaker 2: me like, shut up, you know, shut up, what are
Speaker 2: you talking about? But I saw that in him and
Speaker 2: I covered Sean way back in the late eighties nineties. Uh,
Speaker 2: just you know, because he had those eyes and those
Speaker 2: intimidating eyes and and TJ.
Speaker 6: McConnell was a little bit like Sean Gretty. You're an
Speaker 6: extension of the coach on the floor, right, Yeah, no question.
Speaker 6: But getting back to that, I mean, you look at
Speaker 6: Arizona's roster right now, Jen and Bradley for the most
Speaker 6: part a high i Q player.
Speaker 2: Maybe it doesn't make the right PA.
Speaker 3: I'll take it. Take that. I'll take that.
Speaker 6: Carter Bryant high i Q player. I know he's very
Speaker 6: young but always learning. I think Henry Henry K. J.
Speaker 6: Lewis hi j i Q player, I think very much
Speaker 6: so Trade in Townsend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I asked you know you you especially see those
Speaker 2: in guys who don't have all the skills, all the
Speaker 2: physical skills, because you have to over encompensate.
Speaker 6: Like a waka every time he gets the ball or
Speaker 6: is playing defense, he's in the right position. Doesn't matter
Speaker 6: where they are on the floor, He's in the right position.
Speaker 6: And you can't you can teach it, but it's it
Speaker 6: just comes dow.
Speaker 2: Who would you say in the in the people you've covered,
Speaker 2: people you would think is the highest i Q of them.
Speaker 2: And I asked for I asked for a reason because
Speaker 2: I just came up with my man.
Speaker 6: I mean I haven't covered Arizona basketball for a long
Speaker 6: long time, but yeah, I would say Daleen Terry.
Speaker 2: And he had fun doing it to his athletic he
Speaker 2: was and he was a good player too and he
Speaker 2: gott and he got yeah, and he has my guy
Speaker 2: would I'm gonna tell you and I don't think you're
Speaker 2: gonna be shocked by this. Uh Luke won Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know plays at the top. He very astute, obviously studied
Speaker 2: the game because his dad, uh not very talented, but
Speaker 2: one a lot and knew how to play the game. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love those dudes. I love those dudes, just just
Speaker 2: different greedy. He was a different greedy. He'd beat you,
Speaker 2: he would. You know, another guy too, and this has
Speaker 2: probably been said a few times Miles Simon. You know,
Speaker 2: not very physically gifted, but a heck of a leader
Speaker 2: and a heck of a guy who knew how to
Speaker 2: play the game well.
Speaker 6: And I think that goes to what people say about
Speaker 6: him in terms of he's this great score.
Speaker 2: He's not a great show about miss. Yeah, he knew
Speaker 2: how to score, but he wasn't a great scorer either.
Speaker 2: He just had he just could score.
Speaker 6: And knowing how to get to your spots and the
Speaker 6: correct way of doing it and knowing your limitations.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The next guy I would have number two would be
Speaker 2: Mike Bibby, if not first to to to Luke, but
Speaker 2: Biby too. I mean very could see the court, could
Speaker 2: see things before it happened.
Speaker 3: But I remember they.
Speaker 2: Did a did a documentary on Luke.
Speaker 3: I never saw it, but is in it. And I said,
Speaker 3: what kind of a player is he?
Speaker 2: He says, he's like the sixth Stents, you know, the
Speaker 2: kid who saw a thing. You could see open people
Speaker 2: before open people were open people. I don't know if you,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you play pool. Do you play pool?
Speaker 2: Not very well?
Speaker 3: So what's the purpose of pool? When you play?
Speaker 2: Trying to find out where the ball is going to
Speaker 2: go after you did?
Speaker 3: So you kind of do playpool. I pull. I play
Speaker 3: pool a lot. My dad was very good.
Speaker 2: So you're not shooting for the shot you have, You're
Speaker 2: shooting for the shot you're going to get. So he
Speaker 2: was always thinking that, always thinking ahead of the past.
Speaker 2: Where should I be before I take this pass? Where
Speaker 2: should people be before?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: Again, how am I going to draw in a defender?
Speaker 6: How am I going to get not this guy open
Speaker 6: even though I'm passing them, But how is it going
Speaker 6: to get this guy open? When when you rotate the basketball,
Speaker 6: it's all, it's all that, it's all looking forward another guy,
Speaker 6: Jason Gardner.
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Speaker 2: Jason Gardner, Jason Terry, Yeah, Jason Terry was a little
Speaker 2: like that too, not as much as Luke to me
Speaker 2: and Mike, but Jason Gardner, Yeah, he was. He was.
Speaker 2: He was the floridleader and gu just what the Florid
Speaker 2: leader has to be that dude. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 2: that Jayden we didn't talk about this yesterday with Jayden Bradley.
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that's going to make
Speaker 2: this team is he's going to have the ball more
Speaker 2: in his head. Even though that you and I and
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna maybe well too, how many games
Speaker 2: we've seen two two two games, so unless true. When
Speaker 2: we sat together, we looked at each other and said,
Speaker 2: h yeah, yeah, he's gonna get the ball and take
Speaker 2: it in. You kind have given them ball because he's
Speaker 2: going to go in and shoot it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I think it's more, it's more reliable, not like that
Speaker 2: as much. Although two games is not a good sample size,
Speaker 2: but I think he's going to be.
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Speaker 1: Steve Rivera, He's got his eye on the ball on
Speaker 1: Tucson's sports stationed Fox Sports fourteen fifth day.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my in the ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: I'm Steve Rivera.
Speaker 2: In today's Troy Hutchison Joysycats dot Com. We got Henry.
Speaker 2: Now we have Bruce Pasco of the Arizona Daily Star. Bruce,
Speaker 2: are you busy?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well, the travel week, so yeah, I mean, and.
Speaker 10: Obviously a big game, so I'm working on the advanced stuff,
Speaker 10: the daily stuff. Today was signing day, even though that
Speaker 10: doesn't mean much anymore, and then trying to get ready
Speaker 10: to go to Wisconsin. Teams already left in fact, but
Speaker 10: oh did they not go until toing Wrong?
Speaker 2: Did they did they leave right after the press converas
Speaker 2: right after they did.
Speaker 10: Yeah, they get on that charter and they go out,
Speaker 10: And I think that's their strategy when they can pull
Speaker 10: it off. Now when they're going to the Eastern time zones,
Speaker 10: they're having you know, an extra day to get settled in.
Speaker 10: So it'll be interesting to see if they continue that
Speaker 10: during the it's durned the Big twelve games. That's a
Speaker 10: big twelve tournament.
Speaker 3: That's what I said.
Speaker 2: You and I spent I spent till twenty some years
Speaker 2: with Luke doing that. You were with me for the
Speaker 2: next twelve or ten twelve, whatever it was, and he
Speaker 2: was opposite. He'd get in late late night before, get
Speaker 2: up at the water, you know, go shoot around and
Speaker 2: play the game.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, if I remember, right in those days,
Speaker 10: Attack ten and TAC twelve had a rule I believe
Speaker 10: that you couldn't even practice on campus like on a
Speaker 10: Wednesday before a Thursday game or during the week. You
Speaker 10: could between games, and the reason for that was that
Speaker 10: they had voted that, you know, they didn't want to
Speaker 10: encourage people to miss class by coming out early. And
Speaker 10: you know, that's all gone away. I don't think there's
Speaker 10: anything like that, and I don't know if any of
Speaker 10: the conference has a rule like that now. So teams
Speaker 10: are free to in and most of the guys take
Speaker 10: classes online. I don't think it really matters where they
Speaker 10: are as long as they can send the money to
Speaker 10: have that extra hotel line or whatever. But you're right, No,
Speaker 10: Luke Steel was if I remember with him, it was
Speaker 10: they practiced a McHale leave at four o'clock or so
Speaker 10: and get on a commercial flight usually and then usually
Speaker 10: in the Pact ten, with the time change, you could
Speaker 10: still get somewhere by six or seven, and then they
Speaker 10: would go out to dinner, usually some kind of you know,
Speaker 10: he'd take them out somewhere, you know, in Seattle or
Speaker 10: for fish or whatever. And and now it's like you
Speaker 10: go out early and you eating the hotel ballrooms. This
Speaker 10: is a whole different thing, much more, much more about
Speaker 10: business days.
Speaker 2: Right, So let me ask you, we already kind of
Speaker 2: went through this last year with this Wisconsin rivalry, not
Speaker 2: that there was a rivalry, you know, just Wisconsin had
Speaker 2: them for a while in big games, and then they
Speaker 2: went last last year.
Speaker 3: So what's the storyline now.
Speaker 10: Well, you know what I'm looking at is that it
Speaker 10: is Wisconsin is actually going to honor bo Ryan and
Speaker 10: put I think he's going to go in their Hall
Speaker 10: of Fame on Friday, and they're going to bring back
Speaker 10: players who are available to come back from their twenty
Speaker 10: and fourteen twenty fifteen teams which made two final fours
Speaker 10: in a row, and I think we all know how
Speaker 10: they got to that line of those final fours. They
Speaker 10: beat Arizona and they we did. So Arizona's like the
Speaker 10: perfect opponent to be on hand when they do something
Speaker 10: like that. And so I was watching Greg Guard's interview,
Speaker 10: he the coach there. He was talking about how they were,
Speaker 10: you know, they were looking for having all the guys
Speaker 10: back and you know, many of the ones that aren't
Speaker 10: playing the league. And it's just, you know, even though
Speaker 10: it's sort of been a maybe a nauseating part of
Speaker 10: Arizona history, Wisconsin lists at Arizona like it's just like
Speaker 10: it brings a smile to their faith. And I think
Speaker 10: that's what they're gonna That's what they're gonna have in
Speaker 10: the stands on Friday, and we'll see how the teams
Speaker 10: react to it on both sides.
Speaker 6: You know, that's kind of like the reversal of what
Speaker 6: there's an ansome North Carolina Dean Smiths the Wilson for
Speaker 6: to go to his first Final four and then beating
Speaker 6: Den Smith in his final game in the Final four.
Speaker 6: I mean, without Arizona basketball, Wisconsin basketball, would I've gotten
Speaker 6: to those final fours.
Speaker 2: So thank you.
Speaker 3: Right, that's that's the way to look at it.
Speaker 2: Troy.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I guess, well, I mean, you know, Troy has
Speaker 10: a point. I mean, I was just reading that Wisconsin story,
Speaker 10: just huge story about just recounting all that history and
Speaker 10: the chemistry on those teams, and Frank Comisky's talking about
Speaker 10: how nobody cared about who scored. They were all about teamwork,
Speaker 10: and you know there was something to that that was
Speaker 10: a pretty connected team because especially that first year twenty fourteen,
Speaker 10: you could argue that Arizona had a better roster and
Speaker 10: you know, should have won that game. And and and
Speaker 10: then with Conta had a lot of guys back in
Speaker 10: fifteen and uh and you know the both games were close,
Speaker 10: but they pulled it out. But I mean with CONTINENTCT going,
Speaker 10: I don't know, I think I think it's interesting. It
Speaker 10: seems like almost throughout their history Wisconsin and granted not,
Speaker 10: they haven't had you know, you know a lot of
Speaker 10: great I mean, it's been a you know, mixed bag
Speaker 10: in history. But they they're always they always seem to
Speaker 10: be a little underrated, you know, even when they're when
Speaker 10: they're really good, they're just kind of thought of us good,
Speaker 10: and when they're just good, they thought of was average.
Speaker 10: And you know, I think there's a note in there
Speaker 10: about I read a note in there saying about in
Speaker 10: the past six years they didn't get in the preseason
Speaker 10: AP top twenty five at all. And yet every one
Speaker 10: of those years, I think, except one, they got into
Speaker 10: the poll, you know, and then some caids all the
Speaker 10: end of the top ten during the season. So they're
Speaker 10: just sort of and this year is another another example.
Speaker 10: They're not ranked. They may get ranked if they be Arizona,
Speaker 10: they probably will, but you know, they they're nobody's you know,
Speaker 10: they lost some key guys to the portal, and you know,
Speaker 10: I think the kind of jury's been out on them.
Speaker 10: But they do seem to be a little just a
Speaker 10: little bit underrated as a team, I think, and maybe
Speaker 10: that is also because they historically are better as a team.
Speaker 10: They're you know, they're slow you down. They got connected
Speaker 10: guys who just kind of eke out of victory or whatever.
Speaker 10: So you look at their roster and they're not always
Speaker 10: going to have that you know, NBA talent drip them
Speaker 10: and down left and right, and and maybe that's that's
Speaker 10: part of it. But they can be they can be
Speaker 10: scary good.
Speaker 2: So have you have you seen them play? Have you
Speaker 2: seen their style? Because you mentioned slow it down? Is
Speaker 2: that still true? And if that's it's that's the case.
Speaker 2: And I heard that they didn't store down that maybe
Speaker 2: they do. That's been and you know this, that's been
Speaker 2: the kryptonite for Arizona throughout the years.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I asked kJ Lewis about that today a little bit,
Speaker 10: just how they dealt with that last year. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 10: defense and rebounding, can you know, can mitigate that. But
Speaker 10: I think to your question, Steve, yeah, they're historically slow down.
Speaker 10: The interesting thing is I looked at they're averaging I
Speaker 10: think eighty three points a game in their first three games,
Speaker 10: and yet they're adjusted tempo on kempom rates like three
Speaker 10: hundred and thirtieth so and adjusted is adjusting for the opponent,
Speaker 10: and so that's you know, I think. And I talked
Speaker 10: to Jack Murphy scouting them about it. He said that
Speaker 10: he thought it was because they they were getting a
Speaker 10: lot of steels, uh, you know, really aggressive defensively against
Speaker 10: those first three teams and then quickly scored. So they
Speaker 10: ended up scoring a lot of points, but their actual
Speaker 10: tempo when they had the ball in the set offense
Speaker 10: was the same old Wisconson and tempo. But you know,
Speaker 10: but that's they do. They are a little more aggressive
Speaker 10: and they're other maybe a little more perimeter perimeter oriented
Speaker 10: than they have been. So therefore maybe a little bit
Speaker 10: more you know, a little bit better, more up tempo
Speaker 10: look this year. But I think against Arizona, I think they'll,
Speaker 10: you know, they'll they'll they'll try and slow him down
Speaker 10: except for when they do pull off the s field
Speaker 10: and then they've got some pretty aggressive guards, you know,
Speaker 10: so it might be a little different, but but kind
Speaker 10: of the same thing, you know.
Speaker 2: Uh, Bruce.
Speaker 6: I think Tommy kind of brought it up today in
Speaker 6: his press conference. But they do have a six year
Speaker 6: transfer guard. There's been an average leave around six eighteen
Speaker 6: sixteen points a game somewhere around that. I don't know
Speaker 6: how much seventeen points a game. I don't know how
Speaker 6: much you've seen that, but I mean he seems like
Speaker 6: a very efficient guy out there on the.
Speaker 2: Court for them.
Speaker 10: Tonji, Yeah, yeah, John Tanja, I think you're talking about.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I just thought a little bit of their Appalachians Bigue
Speaker 10: game the other night, and I've most have been this
Speaker 10: reading about them and looking at their numbers and yeah,
Speaker 10: he is in side outside guys scoring, you know, a
Speaker 10: wing player, big wing player really efficient in the sixth year.
Speaker 10: I mean, that's the thing we've we've noticed in college
Speaker 10: basketball in general, you know, gosh, the last five ten
Speaker 10: years particularly, it's like, you know, it seems to come
Speaker 10: and go. But now it's all about getting old. And
Speaker 10: in Wisconsin's case, it's about getting old with guys from
Speaker 10: other places. They've they've got guys that there have been
Speaker 10: in their program, but they brought in a couple of
Speaker 10: key transfers and Tanja, you know, he's one of those
Speaker 10: COVID era you know, anomalies that are going to go
Speaker 10: away after this year he got hurt and they had.
Speaker 3: The COVID here.
Speaker 10: He's he's a six year guy, and you know, that
Speaker 10: makes a huge difference in big games, I think, especially
Speaker 10: early in the season, they're just not you know, there's
Speaker 10: just like another you know, another game for for for
Speaker 10: a guy like him. So I think the different for
Speaker 10: him as he's having to just a new team and
Speaker 10: you know, new teammates and all that. But you know,
Speaker 10: he's been pretty darn good so far, so that of
Speaker 10: course it'll be interesting to see, you know, now that
Speaker 10: you know this first, I think Arizona will be the
Speaker 10: first really really tough game.
Speaker 2: Of course, So so you you've covered Tommy in his
Speaker 2: time here, we all covered him, you know him a
Speaker 2: little bit better. Uh take a guess on the number
Speaker 2: of people who he'll play Friday night and if you have,
Speaker 2: if you have eight, who are the two that won't play?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 10: I mean, I got it. I mean he keeps saying
Speaker 10: he trusts Conrad Martinez, and you know it's going to
Speaker 10: be really interesting to see if if Jayden Bradley doesn't
Speaker 10: get it, doesn't have any foul trouble or you know,
Speaker 10: real problems. I think they just play him a lot
Speaker 10: and maybe shift kJ Lewis over because overall kJ Lewis
Speaker 10: is you know, going to give them more than Conrad Martinez. Right,
Speaker 10: So you know, if I had the guess that maybe
Speaker 10: Goes maybe would be one and then the the other
Speaker 10: thing is really interesting with previous backs. But also Henry
Speaker 10: Vassar might be the guy. You know, if we're going
Speaker 10: into season, I would say Bassar would probably be on
Speaker 10: outside of that, but you know, he's like six or
Speaker 10: seven man right now, you know, so it's really it's
Speaker 10: really hard to say. I think I think he's probably
Speaker 10: gonna you know, I think he's probably gonna go with
Speaker 10: nine maybe maybe you know, Anthony Dolls. You know, he'll
Speaker 10: he'll get minutes. But if it's not working for him,
Speaker 10: he's the guy they could also, you know, kind of
Speaker 10: maybe maybe minimize in the game like this that they
Speaker 10: need to, you know, especially if they're getting shooting from
Speaker 10: the rest of the perimeter. It's just that Doll also
Speaker 10: could potentially bring that permanent shooting and that could open
Speaker 10: things up a little bit. He's just been a little
Speaker 10: bit hit, you know, hitting this lately. It'll be interesting.
Speaker 2: And in my opinion, which means nothing. And I think
Speaker 2: you might agree with me and both of you guys,
Speaker 2: he's the team's best shooter. Yeah, I do. And and
Speaker 2: and if you need a dude and he's coming off
Speaker 2: the bench to shoot, good luck with that. And if
Speaker 2: he's not shooting right, you know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, yeah, I think
Speaker 10: they're you know, Caleb Belove should be. He has has
Speaker 10: that potentially he got a little better percentage by his
Speaker 10: last year and you know, so far this year he
Speaker 10: hasn't been bad looking here five for thirteen for three,
Speaker 10: you know, and he's just always going to attract, you know, defenses.
Speaker 10: That the good The good thing is he has a
Speaker 10: balanced game, more balanced game, or he can you know,
Speaker 10: he can do things and maybe create for himself. And
Speaker 10: and he's there's just a lot of possibilities with him,
Speaker 10: but with Feller, so you're right, he's that one guy
Speaker 10: who could really be a specialist to really you know,
Speaker 10: add something, add something different to this offense. It's just
Speaker 10: and he showed it in the preseason, but this first
Speaker 10: two games he's been a little bit off, so you know,
Speaker 10: it'll be it'll be interesting to see if he if
Speaker 10: he creates a regular bottom the rotation, or is he
Speaker 10: going to be like a spot minutes guy and play
Speaker 10: in certain games and almost not at all others.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't think this is maybe the best
Speaker 6: offensive team Arizona'll face all year long, even though Wisconsin's
Speaker 6: playing very well on a high level defensively. But I
Speaker 6: think this is a good test for Arizona fans in
Speaker 6: the media and everybody's see how much improved defensively Arizona
Speaker 6: has gotten from last year to this year. Because I
Speaker 6: think and I want to hear your guys thoughts. This
Speaker 6: could be Tommy Lloyd's best defensive team top to bottom
Speaker 6: that he's had at Arizona.
Speaker 10: Defensive toy.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, one of his best.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know that's what they've been talking. Mean,
Speaker 10: I think I don't know about you see, but I
Speaker 10: think therefore, you know, they've they've they're a little more
Speaker 10: versatile on both sides. But they you know, the thing
Speaker 10: is that they may and I think that you know,
Speaker 10: players that they have, you know, a little bit coming
Speaker 10: in and then they again a guy like Lewis coming
Speaker 10: in and uh, you know, they they do have a
Speaker 10: lot of potential, but also that they lost some really
Speaker 10: good defensive players last year. I mean, I think and
Speaker 10: Tisaw Johnson and Tela Larson were both terrific defensive players
Speaker 10: in their own ways. And you know, Ballow was really
Speaker 10: selected around the basket. He doesn't didn't have as much
Speaker 10: defensive range as I think Basar or previous or you know,
Speaker 10: and that that that could be why they can live
Speaker 10: without that. But so I don't know, I think they'll
Speaker 10: be a little different. I'm not totally convinced they'll be better,
Speaker 10: but they they certainly have that potential to be so.
Speaker 2: You're you're there more than anybody around the kids. Uh,
Speaker 2: let me ask you a weird question because this is
Speaker 2: partly by last one. Uh So, did you see Kurt
Speaker 2: last night on the Big Game?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 3: A little?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I watched. I watched, I watched it on
Speaker 10: and off. Yeah, I saw him miss the twenty five.
Speaker 10: Somebody said he took a half a half.
Speaker 2: Of course he's got he got one, three blocks, he
Speaker 2: picked up the ball and shoot out of again.
Speaker 3: But my questions are weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've covered You've covered him, You've covered h Ballow.
Speaker 3: Who do you miss more?
Speaker 10: Oh? Who do I miss?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Oh, you know that's a great question. See actually because
Speaker 10: both of those guys in totally different ways. Because it
Speaker 10: sounds like a whatever, But I mean Ball was just
Speaker 10: a great guy, and he's cancere and you just I
Speaker 10: mean he you know, he's just he tells you what's
Speaker 10: on his mind. I mean, he was frank when he
Speaker 10: broke his hand in the Pack twelve tournament a couple
Speaker 10: of years ago, and you know, went on and on,
Speaker 10: and I just I really appreciate his honesty and verity
Speaker 10: and the kind of person he is, and I think, uh,
Speaker 10: chrisa I missed because he was so open, and yeah,
Speaker 10: he was cocky, and yeah, I mean you see what
Speaker 10: you guys see what he said about before the Kentucky game.
Speaker 10: He said, you know, something about Cooper flagging in the
Speaker 10: number one pick and then he says congratulations for getting
Speaker 10: that even though already or something like that, making fun
Speaker 10: of him getting all the type. And you know, but
Speaker 10: he I believe he's already He's said things like that
Speaker 10: about NBA guys before. He's he's just like that. And
Speaker 10: and that's fun. I mean, he's he was a fun
Speaker 10: guy to cover, right even, you know, and and I
Speaker 10: think his uh, his spirit showed on the court for
Speaker 10: better or worse sometimes but a lot of times for better.
Speaker 10: I mean they you know, he he kind of was,
Speaker 10: you know, a swagger guy that I think, you know,
Speaker 10: even kind of helped that first Tommy Lloyd Tommy Lloyd's
Speaker 10: first team. He helped on Miller's team. In fact, you know,
Speaker 10: he played during that COVID year. He came in late
Speaker 10: after he was suspended by the inn CITABLEA for that
Speaker 10: whole deal. When he find a pro contract in in Lithuania,
Speaker 10: and came in. Remember the first game he played at Colorado.
Speaker 10: Granted wasn't fans there really, but but he was really aggressive.
Speaker 10: He jumped in front of uh one of their key
Speaker 10: guys that you know, to pick up a charge, and
Speaker 10: I just thought, Wow, this guy is really something and
Speaker 10: then just really being outspoken, you know, and telling you
Speaker 10: what was on his mind. I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 10: But I know, and I know he's been a mixed
Speaker 10: bag with U of a fans and certainly opposing fans
Speaker 10: do not like him, you know, But but again makes
Speaker 10: it interesting, right, right.
Speaker 2: I asked Troy if he he hasn't covered enough to
Speaker 2: ask to answer this question, but the last because I
Speaker 2: have my guy too.
Speaker 3: I think that he was the most.
Speaker 2: Outspoken guy, confident, cocky, yet wasn't as good as he
Speaker 2: thought he was, if that makes any sense. And you
Speaker 2: just kind of said that, you know who kind of
Speaker 2: reminded me of that because we both covered him. Now
Speaker 2: that I look back, I think Gilbert was a lot
Speaker 2: like that, But Gilbert was was good.
Speaker 3: Gilbert would just was way better though, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: The thing he was right.
Speaker 2: The thing with Gilbert he would just say some crazy
Speaker 2: and he does it now, in his podcast to say
Speaker 2: he hasn't chamed, he isn't Jags.
Speaker 10: He's a lot the same guy. I was laughing about
Speaker 10: that the other day about I mean, it's just like
Speaker 10: he left and I remember the knock on him was
Speaker 10: like he was too immature, right, no questions more or whatever.
Speaker 10: And granted he wasn't draft in the first round like
Speaker 10: he had hoped.
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Speaker 10: He's you know, he became a terrific player. And you know,
Speaker 10: I don't know whether he was immaturits the way he
Speaker 10: is different guy and you got to you know, you
Speaker 10: just got to roll with that and makes it interesting
Speaker 10: to cover, and especially in this day and age when
Speaker 10: we don't get a lot of right, we don't get
Speaker 10: a whole lot of access to the guys, and a
Speaker 10: lot of times the guys are careful with what they
Speaker 10: say and their coach with the day and you know,
Speaker 10: and that's understandable. But it's nice when you can see
Speaker 10: people's you know, personalities and kind of right right about that,
Speaker 10: you know, show it or whatever.
Speaker 2: So well, one last question, like so one last question,
Speaker 2: because we and I talked about destroying let's the super
Speaker 2: sickond that you had better access to the guys, whether
Speaker 2: it's Tommy Lloyd not allowing it, or the SIDS or
Speaker 2: the world that we live in, right, Now, don't you
Speaker 2: think that if if we had more access and you
Speaker 2: specifically because you're there every day. Uh And I used
Speaker 2: to be uh that if we had more access and
Speaker 2: you could tell their stories, that more NIL would come in.
Speaker 10: Well, I you know, I think maybe, yes, I think
Speaker 10: more of that like what they call what they call
Speaker 10: it traditional NIL. I guess you'd call it. That would
Speaker 10: be true because you're talking about like sponsors and stuff
Speaker 10: like that. I think, you know what's happened now is
Speaker 10: NIL is like eighty percent about these collectives and it's
Speaker 10: basically just paying guys through the collectives, and fans are
Speaker 10: getting money to collectives and the paying players, and maybe
Speaker 10: those fans will get more motivated to put more money
Speaker 10: into the collectives if they really heard more about the guys.
Speaker 10: But but you know, yeah, a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 10: I will say the program, the cells are doing a
Speaker 10: pretty good job of you know, promoting their guys. And
Speaker 10: you know, they'll they'll put out videos about you know,
Speaker 10: get to know you know whoever, and frankly they can
Speaker 10: you know that's them.
Speaker 2: They yeah, and you know, we.
Speaker 10: Can't go spend the day with them and do videos
Speaker 10: like that. Usually it's pretty unusual, but I mean, I
Speaker 10: will say it's not terrible at least with with you know,
Speaker 10: Tommy White's pretty open and pretty genuine guy. It's pretty
Speaker 10: obvious to everybody and that that that makes up for
Speaker 10: a lot of it. But as far as players, yeah,
Speaker 10: you know a little bit. And the thing is too
Speaker 10: that this particular group and I think, you know, buying
Speaker 10: large everybody that that boys brought in, they're generally, you know,
Speaker 10: they're generally good guys and usually there's some pretty interesting
Speaker 10: about them one way or another. And as you recall,
Speaker 10: even back in the day, sometimes you end up writing
Speaker 10: those interesting stories about them as the recruits because you
Speaker 10: can get on the phone and talk to them in
Speaker 10: depth or talk to their parents or whatever and tell
Speaker 10: that story. And then when they then when they go
Speaker 10: off for thirty five, you know, it's hard to get
Speaker 10: that kind of kind of depth with them. But that's
Speaker 10: just the way it is. We'll safe different than pro sports.
Speaker 3: Bruce safe, travels, Stay warm, Talk to you soon.
Speaker 10: Yeah, all right, Yeah, I won't been there too long time,
Speaker 10: You'll be back.
Speaker 3: Thanks, man appreciated on Bruce.
Speaker 10: All right, thanks having guys take care of it.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was long.
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Speaker 1: Streamy live on the iHeartRadio WIF. This is I on
Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Ravera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: And welcome Buck to I in the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Young Steve, your.
Speaker 2: Troy, you're Henry be able Buck. I don't know minutes,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I means good done, Okay, I'm second minutes.
Speaker 3: Hey you have to break the news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: Arizona football, there's this three star receiver Trenton Shell Trey Sheldon,
Speaker 6: three star, three stars. But he's the he's one of
Speaker 6: the better receivers in the Rue or Arizona in terms
Speaker 6: of who they had out of Texas. Took photos with
Speaker 6: Tetro McMillan when he was on campus taking his visit.
Speaker 2: But that's a big loss, similar similar size.
Speaker 3: It looks like sixty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, six ' four good body about one ninety eight.
Speaker 3: You know, is he the prime? Is he the best
Speaker 3: recruit they have right now?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 6: No, he was not.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 6: They have a four star receiver out of Florida and
Speaker 6: a four star running.
Speaker 2: Back out of Texas.
Speaker 3: Do you see more coming?
Speaker 2: I think there's got to be.
Speaker 6: I mean, when you have a season like this and
Speaker 6: uh coaching staff that comes from San Jose State, one
Speaker 6: of those mid major programs, and recruits are committing to
Speaker 6: you but wanting to see what you can do out
Speaker 6: on the football field, and these are the results, there's.
Speaker 2: Got to be questions. So let me ask you this
Speaker 2: so I'll get you back to March our numbers. January
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, Fish leaves the name Brennan. Are
Speaker 2: you thinking, okay, good hire, I will see what he does.
Speaker 2: Did you think anything about San Jose State the quality
Speaker 2: and him moving up.
Speaker 3: What'd you think.
Speaker 6: I thought good Hire was underrated at San Jose State
Speaker 6: for given the quality of facilities that San Jose State
Speaker 6: has and what he was able to do there. Good coach,
Speaker 6: But my question was the recruiting end and if they
Speaker 6: were going to recruit guys that were San Jose State
Speaker 6: level or if they were going to recruit guys that
Speaker 6: were Arizona level.
Speaker 2: Now, this is a mixed bag of both, of a
Speaker 2: little bit of both, a little bit of both. Class
Speaker 2: I was hoping that one of the things that Dick
Speaker 2: Tomy did pretty well, maybe not all the time, but
Speaker 2: pretty well was development. Right, So I'm not sure this
Speaker 2: guy has it right right now? You kind of think
Speaker 2: he doesn't have it. Who knows, you know, sample size
Speaker 2: is not good. Yeah, no, I mean, and that's the
Speaker 2: biggest thing when it comes there is on a football.
Speaker 2: Is Jetfish had the development? Mike Stoops had the development?
Speaker 2: Uh did tell me, Larry Smith? They all were developmental
Speaker 2: head coaches, Jim Young going back in the day. And
Speaker 2: that takes time. I mean, you know, Tommy doesn't here.
Speaker 2: He's confident in how he teaches him or how he
Speaker 2: lets him play. You know, he lets him play, He
Speaker 2: lets him play to their strengths and it works out well.
Speaker 6: But I mean basketball, I think it's it's easier to
Speaker 6: see the development on the basketball court sure quicker than
Speaker 6: it is on the football field. Because football, you're talking
Speaker 6: about developing a high school kid in terms of fundamental footwork,
Speaker 6: fundamental where you need to be a special in lineman,
Speaker 6: d lineman and stuff like that. And that's where he
Speaker 6: went as in the trenches, and freshmen don't play early.
Speaker 6: On basketball court, you know, you're developing the defensive and
Speaker 6: a lot of the kids coming in aren't sound defensively,
Speaker 6: so you're developing that. But if you could get me
Speaker 6: a bucket, you can, If you can get me twelve
Speaker 6: fifteen points a game, you're probably going to play in
Speaker 6: college basketball.
Speaker 2: Right, we'll see, we'll see what happens. Then I'm pulling
Speaker 2: for the dude, But to me, I have no horse
Speaker 2: in the race. So we'll see what happens. You know,
Speaker 2: a very likable guy. But yeahah, but the thing doesn't
Speaker 2: get Troy. So you know what, you had no with
Speaker 2: him already He's got ten games, nine games under your belt.
Speaker 2: This is this is how it's going to be if
Speaker 2: he does succeed or whatever, this is how it's going
Speaker 2: to be for three, four or five.
Speaker 16: It is what this is.
Speaker 2: Every every spring, every fall, every game.
Speaker 3: Is going to be this.
Speaker 2: You asked him a question, He's going to give you
Speaker 2: an answer. It's not going to be a great answer,
Speaker 2: but it's going to give an answer, not petty or
Speaker 2: not spiteful or whatever.
Speaker 3: Are you okay? Are you ready for this?
Speaker 2: I gotta be right.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: I'm working.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 6: But in terms of a fan base, I tell you,
Speaker 6: if they have another down year, you're going to lose
Speaker 6: the fan base.
Speaker 2: But that type of personality in today's and this is
Speaker 2: a I hate hypotheticals, but I have to go here.
Speaker 3: Had Jed not one? Had Jed not one?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 2: Last year, his second year he was mediocre, He was
Speaker 2: five and seven mediocre, But he had done the next job?
Speaker 2: Would he have survived the fan base that.
Speaker 3: Had he not one?
Speaker 2: In terms not winning in terms of you because he
Speaker 2: was not exciting. He's not exciting, but in terms of
Speaker 2: being the excitement guy, if he was the go if
Speaker 2: they were five and seven or six and seven, right,
Speaker 2: and in the third year. Yeah, and their devo. I
Speaker 2: think he would have been fine. He was not. He
Speaker 2: was not a great He was not a great quote,
Speaker 2: he was not a enough an exciting guy. He was
Speaker 2: not a you know, it's funny because we criticized Stoops
Speaker 2: and we criticized a Rich Rod for being exciting maybe
Speaker 2: too exciting.
Speaker 3: Now we got this, but you know, an exciting guy.
Speaker 6: You know what the differences between him and Brennan is
Speaker 6: there is a clear jet and Brennan is there is
Speaker 6: a clear cut. This is the plan, this is our model,
Speaker 6: this is how we're gonna do it. And he was
Speaker 6: expressive of that. Brennan again week five, six into the season,
Speaker 6: didn't even know what's your identity?
Speaker 2: I don't know. We're figuring that out. It's funny that
Speaker 2: he his honesty has bitten him in the ass. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it really as Yeah, because he was he because he
Speaker 2: didn't know. He probably still doesn't know.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And it's been you know, you ask a question, and
Speaker 2: what are you hoping for from a journalist? Sign for
Speaker 2: him to tell you the truth, tell me the truth,
Speaker 2: or tell them make up something. Yeah, but that's the
Speaker 2: whole thing, you know, when he's making something up, it's
Speaker 2: that it's made up. You know, what's he gonna say.
Speaker 2: What's he gonna say about the team that's made up?
Speaker 2: And then you say that's not true because you see it.
Speaker 2: You know, listen, what's that what's that phrase? Believe me
Speaker 2: or believe me or or then don't trust your lion eyes.
Speaker 6: Well, and again Jed had that Sam Miller's situation last
Speaker 6: year of Jenny and Dolora. Everybody's like, oh, it's no
Speaker 6: other pub right, well, we gotta see, we gotta It's like,
Speaker 6: come on, dude, you see what's out on the football field.
Speaker 2: And that's even when that's even when no one was
Speaker 2: taking over. Yeah, yeah, that wasn't until the last half
Speaker 2: of the year. It's like, okay, he's our guy. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the reason was that for that, maybe
Speaker 2: just to deceive the other team, but the other team knows,
Speaker 2: what the hell. Yeah, you see the results. They're not
Speaker 2: taking out a quarterback that It was like Williams. Williams
Speaker 2: back in the day undershawn when he broke his arm.
Speaker 2: Oh he didn't break his arm.
Speaker 3: We know he broke his arm.
Speaker 2: He's weren't a cast and we well, we don't want
Speaker 2: anybody messing with its Yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 3: Of course they're going to try to do something.
Speaker 6: You're wearing a cast, and I remember on the block
Speaker 6: shot they quickly covered it up after the block, you know,
Speaker 6: get him off the court down here in Washington against Washington.
Speaker 2: No, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: I mean, if he continues to win, you're gonna get
Speaker 2: the same guy every time.
Speaker 6: That you had the deck of cards stacked in your favor,
Speaker 6: if you were a Branian coming in. Now it's fully
Speaker 6: against you. Yeah, sure, moving forward. Yeah, and the hand
Speaker 6: is not good.
Speaker 2: No, No, you're you're looking at it. If this is
Speaker 2: twenty one, he's looking at his seventeen, trying to beat
Speaker 2: a twenty h Your analogies, I'm not sure they're good enough,
Speaker 2: but that was okay, good enough for radio?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, because you have a face for radio, and
Speaker 3: so do I.
Speaker 6: Hey, i've had what was the father John from South Point?
Speaker 6: Tell me that one time? You have a face for Yeah,
Speaker 6: you have the face made for radio. Oh yeah, what
Speaker 6: do you try to get in the show here? Your
Speaker 6: father John must have been well, he's too honest too,
Speaker 6: but he was right. Okay, Henry, what have we got
Speaker 6: here two minutes or soth thirty seconds, so perfect, perfect.
Speaker 6: Thanks Troy for coming in today. Remember tomorrow we're at
Speaker 6: the Casino Del Soul. Come and see us and Jay.
Speaker 6: We'll be on tomorrow with probably an in house guest
Speaker 6: or two. Henry, thanks a bunch. Are you twenty one yet?
Speaker 3: Two weeks?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Two weeks so you can't come and visit us, sorry
Speaker 2: to tell you that, but you can come and visit. No,
Speaker 2: I don't think you can. I'll go next one.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, okay, So in two weeks we got your
Speaker 6: Draft Kings sign ups, your Fanduels sign ups.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can have your first beer. Thank you, Henry,