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Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, so uh yeah, as everybody is joining in.
Speaker 2: We got things, We got stuff. But I gotta tell y'all,
Speaker 2: I found something in the store. Okay, And but this
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with anything else we're gonna be
Speaker 2: talking about tonight. Well maybe maybe, but all right, So
Speaker 2: there I was. And I'm happy I see our resident
Speaker 2: Jewish correspondent here for this one because it only makes
Speaker 2: sense to bring this up while he's here. Okay, So
Speaker 2: so there I was. And as I've told y'all, I'm
Speaker 2: not much of a drinker these days. Right on occasion,
Speaker 2: I might have a glass of wine or a beer whatever.
Speaker 2: But when I do go to the store and I
Speaker 2: grit some red wine, I usually get a really dark
Speaker 2: red and I like to deglaze my pants with it.
Speaker 2: Whenever I'm like doing a steak. Right now, I understand
Speaker 2: people are like, why would you do You're supposed to
Speaker 2: with a roast. Listen, you cook your way. I'll cook
Speaker 2: my way. I personally like to take like a shot
Speaker 2: glass of red wine deglaze my pan as I'm as
Speaker 2: I'm flipping my steak over my cast iron. That's just
Speaker 2: a me thing, right, But so there I was, right
Speaker 2: going down the wine aisle and uh, all right, so
Speaker 2: real quick, everybody here has heard of Mad Dog twenty twenty. Right,
Speaker 2: we all know what MD is. Now, did you know
Speaker 2: that MD stands for Mogen David.
Speaker 1: Uh, what's the significance of that?
Speaker 2: So the significance of that is that Mogen David makes
Speaker 2: a Kosher wine for Passover. This is a big ass
Speaker 2: wine bottle of Concord wine from Mad Dog aka Mogen David.
Speaker 2: Literally underneath that it says Kosher for Passover, Big Dog, Royce, Royce.
Speaker 3: I need you, I need you to speak on this.
Speaker 2: What kind of what's Jewish people?
Speaker 3: Or buy a mad Dog for their passover feast?
Speaker 4: Dog?
Speaker 2: What's happening?
Speaker 1: And before you get before you get to that, I
Speaker 1: just out of curiosity whenever you're talking about kosher, I
Speaker 1: thought all kosher was was just like meat that was
Speaker 1: drained of blood.
Speaker 2: Kosher. I mean no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: The cord answer long answer.
Speaker 2: Let's go along all night baby, Okay, so Bocher.
Speaker 5: The basis of it is from the Torah. However, from
Speaker 5: the tour, it specifically only talks about animals. So the
Speaker 5: tour says that when it comes to land animals, it
Speaker 5: has to have a fully parted hoof into its cud.
Speaker 5: For a fish, it needs to have fins and scales.
Speaker 4: For birds basically can't be birds of prey, and there
Speaker 4: actually needs to be a tradition for it, which is
Speaker 4: the reason why some people do not actually eat turkey
Speaker 4: because they did not have turkey's over in Israel. Now,
Speaker 4: when you talk about kosher, the colloquial term just like
Speaker 4: if it's good to eat, so basically if it's it
Speaker 4: has the fall in this category. It is basically have
Speaker 4: various levels of that. One level is where you have
Speaker 4: rabbis that go in supervised periodic supervised periodically, but they're
Speaker 4: not there all the time, but they could do spot checks.
Speaker 4: And then you have and you have other brands and
Speaker 4: products that are basically supervised from the milking into until
Speaker 4: the production of said products. And then when it comes
Speaker 4: to other things like vegetables, anything in its raw states
Speaker 4: is one percent kosher does not need any kind of
Speaker 4: mark whatsoever. It's like I can go anywhere and have
Speaker 4: a banana, I can go anywhere and have a orange.
Speaker 6: Et cetera.
Speaker 4: Spices for the most part, are basically kosher, but there's
Speaker 4: almost always a called it's called a hexture, which actually
Speaker 4: comes from the word kosher mark on there which I've
Speaker 4: had what a conversations with.
Speaker 2: Is a triangle with a K on the inside.
Speaker 4: So here's the retarded part. Mog and David is not kosher.
Speaker 3: It says kosher for pass wait.
Speaker 4: Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. So there
Speaker 4: are various hextors that are accepted and not accepted. The
Speaker 4: triangle k is accepted for simple For example, in Hawaii,
Speaker 4: there is a dull plant that just like they cut pineapples.
Speaker 4: So pineapples that are like that are that are cut
Speaker 4: that have that are canned and have a triangle ham
Speaker 4: it people eat it, people will So Orthodox Jews will
Speaker 4: not touch anything that has a triangle. Okay. For example,
Speaker 4: Hebrew National is also a good example because Keubernational say
Speaker 4: we answer to a higher power or kosher. Orthodox Jews
Speaker 4: will not have them because of their process and they
Speaker 4: are they do not enter to a higher power. So
Speaker 4: so I mean triangle kay unfortunately is not kosher.
Speaker 2: So you're saying that Mogan David old mad dog why
Speaker 2: specifically and that was the deal seeing a little triangle
Speaker 2: k like okay whatever it literally says specifically in the
Speaker 2: wording kosher for Passover. And I'm just like, bro, that
Speaker 2: is that your old claim for you, mad dog, to
Speaker 2: think that a Jewish family of hood rats is about
Speaker 2: to buy this bottle and turn up on Passover.
Speaker 3: That that's a bold statement there, Bro, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, I mean the funny part is is, for the
Speaker 4: most part, most wines are already inherently kosher for Passover
Speaker 4: because of the process. I don't think I've really found
Speaker 4: a wine that is not kosher Passover. Now. The only
Speaker 4: difference is what you will find of wine is some
Speaker 4: of it will be pasteurized and others will not be pasteurized.
Speaker 4: And the reason why that's important is who is handling it. So,
Speaker 4: for for example, since I observe the Sabbath, right, I
Speaker 4: can open up that bottle of uh, non pasteurized wine
Speaker 4: and there's no issue if my family, I think, or
Speaker 4: for sure someone who's not Jewish opens the bottle, even
Speaker 4: though I've watched them, watched them do it. It is
Speaker 4: not kosher because there's a difference with pasteurization and non
Speaker 4: pasteurization because of way back in the day whenever they
Speaker 4: used to use wine as libationient got you.
Speaker 2: Well, I just tasted that and it tasted like grape juice,
Speaker 2: like the alcoholic grape juice and Concord wine at that
Speaker 2: I've never even heard of that.
Speaker 3: I've heard of Concord grape juice, but like, there was no.
Speaker 2: Way I could not buy it, and I'm probably gonna
Speaker 2: chunk it because I'm good.
Speaker 4: I don't blame you.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you this.
Speaker 4: I was so pissed because so I bought a bottle
Speaker 4: of Mogg and David like hell a long time ago,
Speaker 4: and I was pissed when I when I looked down
Speaker 4: and I saw that it was triangle. Okay, I'm like,
Speaker 4: son of a bitch, and I actually tried to return
Speaker 4: the wine. Look, I can't treat this place like, well,
Speaker 4: you bought it and it's alcohol. We can't take it
Speaker 4: back on my god, damn it.
Speaker 2: Yeah he'll have that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: When I saw that, I was like, I simply have
Speaker 2: to ask Royce about it on the live because.
Speaker 4: I know for sure, and like, there's plenty of them
Speaker 4: that are just taste like, uh, disgusting grape syrup. Yeah. There,
Speaker 4: there's there's decent wines out later, like barton Ura. It
Speaker 4: comes in a blue bottle. It's a sky fantastic wine,
Speaker 4: amazing wine. It basically it's like slightly alcoholic sprite.
Speaker 8: Mmm.
Speaker 2: Heard that? Heard that. I typically go for the reds
Speaker 2: whenever I'm doing my red meat. And when I do that,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I go more cab, you know. And I
Speaker 2: will say that there's a few specific people that have
Speaker 2: got me on the cab game. But you know, it
Speaker 2: depends sometimes.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: I got a question, though, Royce, because that is uh
Speaker 1: not a kosher Would that literally be Jesus juice?
Speaker 9: Hmm?
Speaker 4: I mean only if you do it pre comedian.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be fair. Jesus was Jewish when we
Speaker 2: turned that war to wine. I would assume that wine
Speaker 2: was kosher. Otherwise he wouldn't have done it because he
Speaker 2: was an observant Jew.
Speaker 4: So like I don't know if I.
Speaker 2: Was, it stands to reason anyway. I guess you know,
Speaker 2: a rabbi didn't bless it and make sure the process
Speaker 2: was good. But like it would, it would stand to
Speaker 2: reason that he wouldn't serve unco hosh or wine to
Speaker 2: a wedding party of Jewish people. I feel like that
Speaker 2: would be kind of a kick to the dick, and
Speaker 2: that wasn't his vibe. But you know whatever. But no,
Speaker 2: that dog is not Jesus juice. That is forgot. Damn sure,
Speaker 2: I think we can all agree on I was.
Speaker 1: Just saying that because it's not Jewish. He was Jewish though,
Speaker 1: I know, but yeah, Christians aren't.
Speaker 2: No, no, we are not.
Speaker 1: Now anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 8: Oh no, I just you said the christ and there
Speaker 8: are Jewish, I said, thank god.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: First, y'all got too many rules.
Speaker 2: I don't like those rules. I like my bacon.
Speaker 4: Blame guy for that one, don't.
Speaker 2: I get it. You're not the mean Jewish man that
Speaker 2: wrote it down. I understand, But I like my bacon.
Speaker 2: I like my I like cooking with my bacon. Grease,
Speaker 2: that's the whole thing.
Speaker 4: But anyway, sorry, let me just say I'll say one
Speaker 4: one last thing and then keep my mouth shut. It's
Speaker 4: actually one of the reasons why Jewish don't converted. We
Speaker 4: believe that everybody can follow a guid in their own way,
Speaker 4: and like there's actually no problem with you doing that.
Speaker 4: So like I you know, people say, well don't I
Speaker 4: miss it?
Speaker 8: Like not really, but anybody else who you know enjoys
Speaker 8: their baking it.
Speaker 4: And I've heard that for a very very long time.
Speaker 4: Like more power to you, Like I'm glad that you
Speaker 4: know you have that availability.
Speaker 1: Dude, you can't even eat the turkey bacon. Then you
Speaker 1: say you couldn't eat turkey.
Speaker 2: Some people observe that.
Speaker 8: Some I definitely eat turkey, but there are there are something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you would think that would fall in
Speaker 2: the line.
Speaker 1: It's the most delicious bird there is, right.
Speaker 8: So the problem is it's the last thing is it
Speaker 8: needs to have a tradition for it, so that that's
Speaker 8: the whole thing, Like what is and what isn't is
Speaker 8: all about you know, tradition. So even when it comes
Speaker 8: to fish, how it says that they need to have
Speaker 8: fins scaled, certain kind of scales don't count. But that's
Speaker 8: brought down in the oral turrah and not the physical one.
Speaker 4: Because that's why.
Speaker 2: Catfish neither no o, which I understand some people can't
Speaker 2: tash fish. So like, I get it. It's a bottom eater.
Speaker 8: It's skinned, so that catfish have skin, sharks have like
Speaker 8: a skin. Also swordfish and sturgeon. I think that you
Speaker 8: would think that it would because they it would.
Speaker 4: They appear to have.
Speaker 8: Scales, but not like the kind of the flaky ones
Speaker 8: that come off in the hands like trout, tam, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And now see why we don't have Cajun jews. That's
Speaker 2: that's literally not a thing. So I now understand how
Speaker 2: one plus one equals two.
Speaker 10: Or I guess.
Speaker 1: So getting over to the chat, Spirit Animals said, well,
Speaker 1: this is Dale Ornhard Junior's birthday. S S S, sorry
Speaker 1: not Junior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, today's birthday. Let's go ahead and just say this
Speaker 2: one's for Diale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lais al Plaisdell. Zombie sent a link which we
Speaker 1: will get to. I do want to get to that link,
Speaker 1: but there is something else down in the chat that
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to. First, White Boy Wizard said, Gordy,
Speaker 1: good evening, you glorious bastards.
Speaker 2: Stand to what you dude?
Speaker 1: Uh, Spirit Animal said, get the dabs and the penjamin
Speaker 1: and a bit of flower. I'm happier than a dog
Speaker 1: eating a hog eating shit, a dog eating My dogs
Speaker 1: eat shit. I can't get them to stop.
Speaker 2: Dude, a Pinjamin, I've never heard of that one before.
Speaker 2: The Pinjamin.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's the dab the Benjamin.
Speaker 2: Got you, got you?
Speaker 1: Tony said, Uh, Catholicism requires the wine to be ten
Speaker 1: to eleven percent alcohol.
Speaker 2: This wine is in fact eleven percent alcohol, so allegedly
Speaker 2: some Jewish people can drink it even though not necessarily.
Speaker 2: But the Catholics that they want to get down that nasty,
Speaker 2: they can grab him some some mad dog wine apparently.
Speaker 1: Okay, Midnight cong this is what I wanted to get to.
Speaker 1: Midnight Kong said, what's up, fam, what's your guy's opinion
Speaker 1: on the one hundred men versus a gorilla debate going around?
Speaker 1: And Jacob, before you give your thoughts on that, there's
Speaker 1: a video that I saw that I almost pissed myself
Speaker 1: laying in bed because it was so funny and it
Speaker 1: was alluding to this rate here. So it's like a
Speaker 1: minute in nineteen seconds or something like that, and just
Speaker 1: here what he has to say. It's hilarious.
Speaker 11: And NYG just said, one hundred humans will get dogged
Speaker 11: walk bye a gorilla. I gotta think about this one
Speaker 11: hound of humans, one hundred humans against one gorilla bro. Wait,
Speaker 11: let me think about it. Let me think, Let me think.
Speaker 11: Because he sounded too confident. I'm just trying to think.
Speaker 11: Before us one hundred humans, right, that's a hundred, that's
Speaker 11: a honey bro. We were gonna beat the fuck out
Speaker 11: that guerrilla game man dogar Waler is getting his ass beat. Okay,
Speaker 11: if we get a hundred humans, that's not scared. That's
Speaker 11: that's brave. The fight that got.
Speaker 12: Damned dog really getting that. No man, we gonna stump
Speaker 12: that man.
Speaker 11: We stumping that motherfucker in a great no game one
Speaker 11: gorilla bro one hundred humans versus one gorilla broat Nella's game.
Speaker 11: I feel like, I honestly feel like we will win
Speaker 11: that battle. Yeah, we will win that battle definitely. I
Speaker 11: say fifty, I say fifty humans to beat them gorilla.
Speaker 11: If we be in a hundred, a hundreds over killed,
Speaker 11: we're gonna we stumping that motherfucker.
Speaker 12: We turned that bits point.
Speaker 2: Okay, this guy sounds like he has no idea what
Speaker 2: a grill is actually capable of.
Speaker 1: Shout out to young Mumu, Young MoU MoU.
Speaker 2: So my thoughts on this, and we're talking about strictly
Speaker 2: hand to hand, no pointy sticks, no tools, no weapons,
Speaker 2: no ropes, no nothing.
Speaker 3: We're talking just straight throwing palls at it.
Speaker 2: Right, that gorilla would literally tear apart fifty of those
Speaker 2: dudes and then stomp the other fifty Like this isn't
Speaker 2: that's not happening.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I mean, you're about to be let me
Speaker 1: share the screen right quick. You're trying to say that
Speaker 1: a one hundred humans can't take this motherfucker out right here, dude,
Speaker 1: So do.
Speaker 2: You understand that? All right? So people think people think
Speaker 2: that when you hear what is the average weight of
Speaker 2: a gorilla, a silver back gorilla just for shits and
Speaker 2: gigs here, because I want to say what they get to,
Speaker 2: like three four.
Speaker 1: Hundred shows say even bigger than that, six hundred.
Speaker 2: Right, and you think out loud that that's like, you know,
Speaker 2: a three hundred pound dude right in your head, that's
Speaker 2: like what comes to mind, right.
Speaker 1: Three hundred to four hundred and thirty pounds.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's just let's go mid range here. Let's
Speaker 2: say three fifty. Right, this is not the biggest gorilla
Speaker 2: in the jungle, but it's also not the run of
Speaker 2: the litter. Okay, fine, you would think out loud that
Speaker 2: you'd be fighting like a three hundred and fifty pound dude, okay,
Speaker 2: and one hundred dudes versus that could take it. That
Speaker 2: is like facing a fucking thirteen hundred pound dude. Because
Speaker 2: the muscle tinsels strength of them, and the muscle fibers,
Speaker 2: how they're twisted. On a gorilla, they are like, pound
Speaker 2: for pound, six times stronger than we are.
Speaker 1: Bro you listen from rip a car tire in half,
Speaker 1: you get one hundred brock lesseners. They're fucking that gorilla up, dude.
Speaker 3: Not even a little bit like, not even a little bit.
Speaker 1: A gorilla at best is probably three brock Lesseners. Oh
Speaker 1: you're at vast three, dude, brock Lessner fucking like three
Speaker 1: hundred and something pounds chiseled from head to toe. You
Speaker 1: ever seen him in in the ring before?
Speaker 2: Terrifying hind brock Lessners on either side with pol robes
Speaker 2: trying to ha a part and eighteen whiller tire and
Speaker 2: they still can't do it. A gorilla can do that
Speaker 2: without even fucking flexing.
Speaker 1: Jamie, your thoughts on this, I want to hear I
Speaker 1: want to hear what the cult members have to say
Speaker 1: about this. I'm confident, I'll be honest with you. I
Speaker 1: don't even think it takes one hundred block lesters give me,
Speaker 1: give them a hundred of me.
Speaker 12: That's my opinion on this is.
Speaker 13: A gorilla's bite force alone is thirteen hundred per thirteen
Speaker 13: hundred pounds per square inch, right, that's you could remember
Speaker 13: did this brock Lessner analogy? He got dropped by uber Riene,
Speaker 13: slumped by Kane like he couldn't fight Kane.
Speaker 12: These were regular men.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the gorilla has some off days as well.
Speaker 13: No, gorillas don't have off days. That's why they don't
Speaker 13: need to evolve.
Speaker 2: They are apex.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they they and they're.
Speaker 1: Not kind of Look, I'm not saying that one hundred.
Speaker 13: Argument for you would be one hundred men versus one
Speaker 13: champion zee.
Speaker 2: The fuck that maybe on that maybe like jimpanzees will fuck.
Speaker 1: You a hundred.
Speaker 2: These can literally rip people apart, and they have done it,
Speaker 2: like they eat a bit to death with her own
Speaker 2: arm that it just ripped off of her.
Speaker 13: Like, yeah, so they go for the small appendages. Gentlemen,
Speaker 13: I don't know if you know this, They're gonna go
Speaker 13: for the groin.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, but but listen, we're talking about your numbers here.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we're going one hundred in and
Speaker 1: one hundred out. We might go one hundred in and
Speaker 1: maybe twenty thirty out. I'm I'm admitting that there's going
Speaker 1: to have to be a little sacrifice.
Speaker 13: But to say no way, there's no way you think
Speaker 13: you think, let's say somebody Anderson Silva could tie kick
Speaker 13: a I mean, granted, most people are comparing this to
Speaker 13: regular Americans who are extremely overweight, out of shape, not healthy.
Speaker 13: Their joints are not strong or prepared. They don't actually
Speaker 13: do physical calisthetics. That's most Americans, right, Even if you
Speaker 13: took top athletes, you took like NFL linebackers, hockey players,
Speaker 13: who joints are you know, put to the test every day,
Speaker 13: there's no physical way. Even if he took the biggest
Speaker 13: and baddest one hundred, No, I'd say a hundred people
Speaker 13: could probably take out a bear with weapons.
Speaker 2: It's it's not even this. This isn't even like an
Speaker 2: argument to be had. That's why it's so crazy that
Speaker 2: people are actually having this conversation right now, like you
Speaker 2: said that. Being said that, people said us the chimp maybe,
Speaker 2: and I'll give you a maybe on that a gorilla
Speaker 2: and like we're going off to a print, like nobody's
Speaker 2: getting the jump on each other for this example to work.
Speaker 2: Everybody there is fighting for their lives. The gorilla is
Speaker 2: coming into it knowing that he's like gonna die if
Speaker 2: he doesn't make this happen, and so do the humans,
Speaker 2: big dog. No, the humans will physically and literally get
Speaker 2: skull dragged by this big bitch. Like there's no two
Speaker 2: ways about.
Speaker 1: This, okay. So I just asked Chatchiebt. I wanted to
Speaker 1: see what chatchiebt has to say about this.
Speaker 2: Let's let's let Ai weigh in for sure, and then
Speaker 2: everybody but he can tell I just want I just
Speaker 2: want to throw it out there.
Speaker 1: Chat chubt has not led me astray yet, all right?
Speaker 1: So I said, realistically, one hundred brock lesseners in a
Speaker 1: fight against one gorilla to the death, what is the
Speaker 1: most likely outcome? And it said, all right, let's break
Speaker 1: this down realistically, no meme logic, just cold primal physics
Speaker 1: and physiology. The competitors like is like in the Red corner.
Speaker 2: It says he's not like the greatest fighter of all time.
Speaker 1: Because he's the most gorilla like motherfucker I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: That's the only reason why I said that, outside maybe
Speaker 1: Bobby Lashley, Mark Hennon, I'm just naming wrestlers now, but
Speaker 1: we're talking about real fighters, Jonathan, I mean, all right,
Speaker 1: so yeah, but Brocklesner was a real fighter. Marque.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with him being using the example, but like
Speaker 2: Chuck Ledell, I would even well, now, okay, okay, for
Speaker 2: the example I find with brock he's good, he's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So gorilla a silverback gorilla between four and
Speaker 1: five hundred pounds of raw muscle. The bite forces thirteen
Speaker 1: hundred PSI, strong enough to crush bone. The arm length
Speaker 1: it can lift up to eighteen hundred pounds with the
Speaker 1: insane grip. A fighting style is brutal, instinctual, and unforgiving,
Speaker 1: known for bone breaking power in berserker rage, the durability,
Speaker 1: tough skin, extremely dense bones, natural armor of muscle. Then
Speaker 1: we go into brock Lessner. His weight two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty five pounds whenever he was fighting for the UFC.
Speaker 1: He's an NCAA wrestling champ, UFC heavyweight champ, pro wrestler,
Speaker 1: and freak athlete. His strength insanely strong for a human,
Speaker 1: but still human. No weapons, we assume bare handed now
Speaker 1: scale brock Lessener times one hundred the variables to consider
Speaker 1: gorilla's blitz. The gorilla will likely kill the first five
Speaker 1: to ten brocks. Instantly think smashing skulls and snapping limbs.
Speaker 1: The shock factor. Even a trained fighter has probably never
Speaker 1: seen a real silver back up close, let alone fought one.
Speaker 1: The tactics would be. Human can strategize even if if
Speaker 1: even a handful of brocks can survive the initial onslaught
Speaker 1: and form a coordinated attack i for example, a dog
Speaker 1: pile or targeting limbs, they can start wearing the gorilla
Speaker 1: down the gorilla. The gorilla is not tireless. Fighting one
Speaker 1: hundred people, no matter how beastly you are, will eventually
Speaker 1: take its toll. So the most likely scenario bare handed,
Speaker 1: no weapons. The first ten to twenty brocks are brutally
Speaker 1: maimed or killed. The next thirty or forty engage more cautiously,
Speaker 1: using numbers, angles and dog piling techniques. Eventually, here we go.
Speaker 1: Eventually sheer numbers will prevail even a even a gorilla
Speaker 1: can't withstand one hundred trained warriors, think wrestling, takedowns, limb holds, chokes,
Speaker 1: even gouging eyes if necessary. So the final verdict says
Speaker 1: from CHATGBT, the final verdict says victory goes to the
Speaker 1: one hundred brock Lesseners, but with heavy cap maybe thirty
Speaker 1: or forty dead or severely injured. It would be a bloody,
Speaker 1: chaotic primal battle, but human strategy, coordination, and numbers win
Speaker 1: the war.
Speaker 2: Kay red Wick real quick. First off, Chat Gypt lies
Speaker 2: a lot, and that's understood. AI is not the all
Speaker 2: knowing thing right Number one, Number two rock Leasure weighs
Speaker 2: two sixty. This gorilla is able to lift sixteen hundred
Speaker 2: pounds with one arm. Dog pile, My fucking ass. He
Speaker 2: can lift eight of them bitches with each hand and
Speaker 2: throw the whole dog pile off of him choking. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm so sure you're gonna wrap your fucking arms around
Speaker 2: a silver back to get a choke. Dude.
Speaker 1: If you get a chain of rock lesseners to a
Speaker 1: chain link choke this fucking gorilla, Dude, you got three
Speaker 1: or four of those fuckers up in there.
Speaker 2: We're chaining arms together, red Rover, Red redro What are
Speaker 2: we talking about? Dude? No, this is not real life.
Speaker 1: Like no, bro, how like I think you're actually you're
Speaker 1: going a little too far. The CHATCHABT said fifty, Like forty, bro,
Speaker 1: CHATGYBT said forty is overkilled.
Speaker 2: Chatgybt Also, it's got it wrong. Like, let's be very
Speaker 2: honest about this. Hand to hand, the first ten to
Speaker 2: twenty are dead instantly the gate. What do you think
Speaker 2: like the stamina of a grilla is it's I'm not
Speaker 2: saying he can't fight for an hour long. I'm also
Speaker 2: saying this won't go an hour. Yeah, it's gonna get tired.
Speaker 2: You may get a couple of lucky swipes and get
Speaker 2: like the eye gougers. Yeah, I'm not saying the gorilla
Speaker 2: is gonna be unphazed or uninjured. That for sure, Uh dude.
Speaker 2: And then that's just its arms. It can still crush
Speaker 2: dudes with his legs or its sheer body weight. Dude.
Speaker 1: The gorilla only has one perception. He can only really
Speaker 1: focus on a couple of things at a time.
Speaker 13: Max d This is the same question that they've been
Speaker 13: asking for years about how many fourth grade is gonna
Speaker 13: grow man beat.
Speaker 2: Up right, Okay, but it's also that's human versus human
Speaker 2: though no.
Speaker 13: No, I agree, but it's like the same analogy, like
Speaker 13: you would probably be able to dismantle you know, this
Speaker 13: is a tear analogy.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'll take twenty of them out, easy, easy, easy.
Speaker 12: You're probably fifty. You flick him in the forehead too.
Speaker 1: Hot, as they'll start crying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's yeah, well, look we're talking about to
Speaker 2: the death though, shot.
Speaker 12: As your nose flicks, you shot as you knows.
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize this is an internet debate to
Speaker 2: be had. Like, no, he could literally just swipe in sight,
Speaker 2: collapse the dude skull with his hand, just open hand slap.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Right, let's get the spirit animal in here. He knows
Speaker 1: a thing or two about animals, of at least the
Speaker 1: spirit anyway, go ahead, sir, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 9: Yeah, so my money's on the gilla.
Speaker 10: But at the same time, humans got that dog and
Speaker 10: we literally wiped out other species of us. But the
Speaker 10: money is on the griilla. And here's the reason why.
Speaker 10: It's because they can they they can't exhaust what sixteen
Speaker 10: one hundred pounds of force, not even fine. And even
Speaker 10: scientists say that they don't know the top strength of
Speaker 10: goll is because girls never really throw out there all,
Speaker 10: but when they do fight so that it's typically to
Speaker 10: the death.
Speaker 9: And my eyes are with you. Just look at the
Speaker 9: times that champs have went on lamp pages. It has
Speaker 9: been the champs.
Speaker 10: They'll and and girls are a lot like us humans,
Speaker 10: but they're just as vindictive. They're gonna go after what
Speaker 10: makes us humans. They go after our face. They and
Speaker 10: they target our faces and our ore They're gonna talk
Speaker 10: at our ears, our face, and our fingers well as
Speaker 10: the going like mister Jamie said, but that that way
Speaker 10: that they cut, they will fuck you up. And now
Speaker 10: you're not even a product of society. They're smart enough
Speaker 10: to do that. And now, uh it's actually documented in
Speaker 10: the wild that they've just now technically start uh integrated
Speaker 10: into into the Stone Age because now they're learning how
Speaker 10: to make spears and all. If it was human against
Speaker 10: the primates, I don't see a swinging.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, first off, I'm sure mister Jamie appreciates your manners.
Speaker 1: That was very nice. And secondly, dude, imagine brock Lessner
Speaker 1: just fucking on all fours. Doo doo doo dooo doodoo.
Speaker 1: You got one hundred of those fuckers coming at you, dude,
Speaker 1: Get out of here, Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 10: Look, I don't want twelve long shit of Viking long
Speaker 10: ships full of block lessners coming up on the shore.
Speaker 9: That's fucking terrifying.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 9: The dude ran and.
Speaker 10: Made Olympic qualifying scores a week after wrecking his motorcycle,
Speaker 10: fracturing his risk, facturing his jaw, and he broke broke
Speaker 10: his pelvis and tours growing going. The dude still qualified
Speaker 10: for the Olympics and everything.
Speaker 1: He's not fully He's not fully human. He was an
Speaker 1: NFL player, a w W wrestler, a UFC fighter, an
Speaker 1: Olympic competitor, and just an overall stud. But any Merlin,
Speaker 1: I want to hear your thoughts on this. What are
Speaker 1: you got your hand up over there? Somebody has to
Speaker 1: be on the team of logic over here.
Speaker 14: I really hate to be the one that agrees with
Speaker 14: chat GPT. Let's go had done that at the end,
Speaker 14: I really do. But if we're to think about this
Speaker 14: logically and physics wise, and I hate to disagree, Jacob.
Speaker 14: But if a hundred bees can kill out the jet
Speaker 14: and the one that kills on nests, like all the
Speaker 14: walks will come in, they'll swarm.
Speaker 15: It and overheat it.
Speaker 14: It's really hard to think that humans can't do that
Speaker 14: same thing, Like if you wear that motherfucker, I'm not
Speaker 14: even talking like a brock lesseners, Like, give me a
Speaker 14: hundred Navy seals, give me a hundred delta phores, maybe
Speaker 14: Haptor Bjornson's like the mountain from Game of Thrones, give
Speaker 14: me a hundred of those, Okay, and a hundred of
Speaker 14: them could definitely take out a gorilla, like easy Jack.
Speaker 14: The physics are there, like it can't. You can't sustain
Speaker 14: that level of energy for so long without your heart
Speaker 14: giving out. I get it over if you're over exerting
Speaker 14: it every step of the way, sim dude.
Speaker 2: You're thinking, like fifty forty to fifty of these dudes
Speaker 2: are dying within the first sixty seconds. Like that's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, Okay, if you would have said five
Speaker 2: hundred dudes versus a gorilla, Okay, yeah, I'd buy that sure,
Speaker 2: one hundred.
Speaker 1: Now, how many out of five hundred, how many are
Speaker 1: living in your opinion.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking three might make it out of there.
Speaker 2: And you know, so you.
Speaker 1: Think two hundred men could take on a gorilla, then.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying two hundred are dying, So.
Speaker 1: Two hundred and one men can take on a gorilla
Speaker 1: in at least one personal come out.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that's possible, possible, but I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: that's even one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: One hundred men.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like you don't think very highly
Speaker 1: of yourself.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not me.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, fucking cage a night himself, one hundred
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm also logical, dude, that's not It's not
Speaker 2: like taking on a goat. I mean, like us animal
Speaker 2: and shit, there are certain animals We're like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: you could see it.
Speaker 3: A fucking silverback gorilla you.
Speaker 1: Might have to take on like maybe just for this
Speaker 1: temporary period of time, like some kind of communist ideology
Speaker 1: and work together as a team for the greater good
Speaker 1: kind of thing, even though that's not really what communism is,
Speaker 1: but that's what they think that it is. I think
Speaker 1: just it makes sense to me, and I know that
Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to say the gorillas are bitches.
Speaker 1: There's some bad motherfuckers, There's some kings of the jungle.
Speaker 2: Right, I think I think too highly of humans. You
Speaker 2: realize how weak we are, how fragile we are. We
Speaker 2: are water sacks with a skeleton. That's the only thing
Speaker 2: holding us up. Like that's the reality.
Speaker 1: But there are some people that are just different, dude.
Speaker 2: You know that, sure? Yeah, Like you know some people
Speaker 2: there right.
Speaker 1: There are definitely some people out there that they absolutely
Speaker 1: they get into a fight, they are fighting to the death, regardless,
Speaker 1: it doesn't even have to be to the death. That's
Speaker 1: that's just their mentality.
Speaker 2: Okay. I'm saying even the trained fighters like fighting a
Speaker 2: gorilla in any regard like the anatomy of it. You're
Speaker 2: not getting a choke on this. You're not putting them
Speaker 2: in an armbar. Their limbs work different, their joints work different.
Speaker 2: Like it's the entire thing of like brock Lusser train
Speaker 2: and fighter trained fighting only works against other humans. This
Speaker 2: is not what we're talking about here, dude. It wouldn't
Speaker 2: work like that zombie.
Speaker 1: I know you agree with Jacob here, but I want
Speaker 1: to hear your reasoning.
Speaker 16: I was going to play Devil's advocate and be in
Speaker 16: the middle.
Speaker 17: Thanks, But I will say but I will say that
Speaker 17: I looked up some statistics about it, and it says
Speaker 17: that the solver backs can punch up to a force
Speaker 17: of two thousand, seven hundred pounds.
Speaker 16: It's thirty times stronger than a human. That the max
Speaker 16: impact can be up to twelve five hundred pounds per
Speaker 16: square foot, and then it's like the same as a
Speaker 16: Samaran tiger. And I was like, okay, I could see
Speaker 16: the number game and like sacrificing the first sixty seventy.
Speaker 16: But then I was like, okay, well, how are you
Speaker 16: going to kill it? Like if we have weapons, sure,
Speaker 16: are you going to try to like bite its neck?
Speaker 16: Like are you going to try to rip out its throat?
Speaker 16: I mean realistically, like the skin's tougher, it has like
Speaker 16: the legs are essentially arms as well, So like I
Speaker 16: could see the overpowering, but how are you going to
Speaker 16: kill it with your bare hands? Like I mean, are
Speaker 16: you going to try to rip like multiple people try
Speaker 16: to rip out its throat while it's still biting and
Speaker 16: throwing you off.
Speaker 1: Climb up on that fucker's back, get on top of
Speaker 1: his head and gouge his eyes out while another person's
Speaker 1: pulling on the nostrils a little bit. Another person got
Speaker 1: jaw a little but your.
Speaker 16: Jaw strength like it would take. I could see realistically
Speaker 16: maybe like two hundred people, probably like because it would
Speaker 16: be a numbers game. You'd sacrifice the first half, you'd
Speaker 16: wear it down enough, and then you'd be able to
Speaker 16: overwhelm it and then by sheer force of multiple people. Yeah,
Speaker 16: you could probably kill it easily, but but you have
Speaker 16: to be.
Speaker 3: Adrenaline of the gorilla plays in. Yeah, galageatsized.
Speaker 2: The next person to touch that gorilla is fucked, Like, dude,
Speaker 2: the skin of a gorilla is a lot thicker and
Speaker 2: tougher than the skin of a human. Bro. This isn't
Speaker 2: this isn't even a conversation.
Speaker 16: I mean, our teeth alone can't have You don't have
Speaker 16: har lea any bite force. So I mean you could, realistically,
Speaker 16: there is enough people grabbing on it at the same
Speaker 16: time while it's not trying to like rip your DM
Speaker 16: face off, you could probably kill it with enough hands.
Speaker 16: But so to both of you, it's a yes and no.
Speaker 16: So there I'm in the middle.
Speaker 1: Give me the.
Speaker 3: Ability to share the screen real quick, Jonathan.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, it's funny that we're bringing
Speaker 2: up outside sources. Of course you're going to bring up
Speaker 2: AI the All Powerful, right, But you know what, Rogan
Speaker 2: actually talked about this a few years ago, and it's
Speaker 2: funny as fuck. But I never in a million years
Speaker 2: thought that we would play this clip on this show
Speaker 2: because I didn't think it was a conversation like worth having.
Speaker 2: But here we are, like the time, the time has happened. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and listen to him, because we're talking
Speaker 2: about the human body. We are weak, dude, let's listen.
Speaker 9: Soft.
Speaker 2: We think it's okay to look at a wild animal
Speaker 2: in its eyes.
Speaker 1: That's a stupidod hight pale.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: We're cool, man.
Speaker 2: We're from National Geographic Society.
Speaker 1: We just come to make sure your baby's okay.
Speaker 2: Oh fucking crazy, eight hundred pounds silver bag.
Speaker 1: Through the trees, right in your face.
Speaker 2: He's got fangs and it only needs vegetables, only designed
Speaker 2: to fuck you up.
Speaker 1: We're so soft, we think it's ok.
Speaker 2: He actually continues on for a good bit there, and
Speaker 2: he's like he's talking about the muscles, how they're like twisted,
Speaker 2: the fibers and how dense they are. That's not like
Speaker 2: fighting a six hundred pound dude. That's like fighting a
Speaker 2: fucking three thousand pound dude.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I asked, since everybody's curious about okay, one
Speaker 1: hundred people, but how are you gonna do it? The
Speaker 1: skin is so thick, the gorilla is so monstrous. What
Speaker 1: are you going to do? And it said, great question,
Speaker 1: because raw strength alone won't cut it even one hundred,
Speaker 1: even with one hundred brock lesseners. Here's a breakdown of
Speaker 1: the best realistic fighting strategy these men could use to
Speaker 1: take down a gorilla with minimal casualties. So the primary
Speaker 1: objective is to immobilize and exhaust the gorilla. You don't
Speaker 1: fight it head on. You fight it like it's a
Speaker 1: boss in a video game, strategically, with teamwork and sacrifice
Speaker 1: if needed. So then there's a step by step kind
Speaker 1: of breakdown. So you'd go through a distraction and an evasion.
Speaker 1: Then you go to limb targeting and grappling. So as
Speaker 1: far as them the limb targeting and grappling, it says,
Speaker 1: so the front line, the front line people, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get ten automatically done. The next twenty to thirty brock
Speaker 1: lesseners once distracted. Once distracted, the second wave rushes the
Speaker 1: sides and backs going low. The goal is to grab
Speaker 1: the arms and the legs and pull them away from
Speaker 1: the core. Multiple brock per limb grapplers use leg locks,
Speaker 1: arm drags, and body control. Thing like jiu jitsu, but
Speaker 1: with gorilla adaptations. Then you would have dogpile tactics. Once
Speaker 1: a few limbs are controlled, more brocks jump onto the
Speaker 1: gorilla's back and head, Some anchor its legs, others choke
Speaker 1: it out or others choke it others hold the jaw
Speaker 1: shut like a crocodile hunter. Number four exhaustion and immobilization.
Speaker 1: Gori gorillas are powerful, but not built for extended cardio.
Speaker 1: A group this size can slowly wear it out if
Speaker 1: they If they avoid full front full frontal strikes, eventually
Speaker 1: the gorilla tires, its limbs locked, its vision obstructed. So
Speaker 1: then you get to the final takedown. Once immobilized, a
Speaker 1: coordinated a coordinated neck crank, choke or spinal compression could
Speaker 1: incapacitate it. Brutal but necessary in a deathmatch scenario. So yeah, you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna throw this out, you know how often a gorilla
Speaker 3: versus a gorilla fight ends in one of them ripping
Speaker 3: the other one apart, er choking out or dying or
Speaker 3: anything like that. Rarely, you know why, because they're really
Speaker 3: fucking hard to kill, even with another gorilla strength A
Speaker 3: hundred dude.
Speaker 1: Dude, we're not talking about diamonds here. They're talking about
Speaker 1: one hundred. I didn't like thinking, I'm you know, the
Speaker 1: whole the only thing that can cut of diamond is
Speaker 1: another diamond kind of thing.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm saying, like these dudes are
Speaker 2: built to fight other gorillas humans. No, that's not even Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you're saying.
Speaker 1: A gorilla can't even beat another gorilla.
Speaker 2: No, they can, but it usually doesn't result in the
Speaker 2: other one dying or getting choked out or whatever. Like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you were to somehow and like dudes trained up
Speaker 2: for the insane task of fighting a gorilla, and you
Speaker 2: had twenty dudes sacrifice themselves right at the front, a
Speaker 2: right to distract it and let the other ones come
Speaker 2: up behind it, there is no way that a guy
Speaker 2: is going to get a choke on him. Another dude's
Speaker 2: gonna incapacitate the arms. Again, he's able to lift sixteen
Speaker 2: hundred pounds at that arm. That is eight brock lessners
Speaker 2: that he's able to lift and throw.
Speaker 1: How's he going to group them all together? He has
Speaker 1: to group them all together first to do that.
Speaker 2: My point is that even with the combined weight of
Speaker 2: all these dudes a dogpile tactic. Let's say you got
Speaker 2: him splayed out fucking Christ style, right, and you got
Speaker 2: these dudes dog piling on his arms without trying. He
Speaker 2: could literally just throw them, just lift his arms and fucking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you're supposed to take the limbs out
Speaker 1: and then dog pile.
Speaker 2: My point is, there's no way you're getting to take
Speaker 2: the limbs out. He can just sling all of them,
Speaker 2: five dudes on that one arm, and this dude five
Speaker 2: on this arm, five on that leg. Whatever to try
Speaker 2: to because I mean, also, you have to think about
Speaker 2: the reality. You're not gonna get five guys on the
Speaker 2: same arm. There's only so much arm space, like so
Speaker 2: much real estate to put a body on. So let's
Speaker 2: say maybe five on each limb. He could fucking pick
Speaker 2: them up and hung them.
Speaker 1: Like hey shit, okay, okay, let's just get realistic here
Speaker 1: for a second.
Speaker 2: I'm getting very realistic. He's able to watch sixteen hundred
Speaker 2: per arm.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're going a little crazy here, acting
Speaker 1: like he's fucking charz Ard against humans or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's still an animal, it's still a gorilla. They're dumb
Speaker 1: as fuck, dude.
Speaker 3: We're talking about with the like, understand this is fight
Speaker 3: or flight.
Speaker 2: Like it's not like you're gonna evade im and get
Speaker 2: him over here, and he's gonna fuck off in this
Speaker 2: tree for a minute, like we're putting them in an arena.
Speaker 2: And it's like under the pretenses of this example, they
Speaker 2: understand that they are dying, like this is a fight
Speaker 2: to the death. Instincts have only kicked in here.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, Jamie add on to it, sir.
Speaker 13: All right, So Jonathan, I'm gonna have to go in
Speaker 13: on with like with you a little bit more because
Speaker 13: like this is before you look up chat GBT, and
Speaker 13: this is one of the things that I had some
Speaker 13: of the guys I work with still that implement, and
Speaker 13: that's like the broken rhythm and fans that can exhaust
Speaker 13: somebody and wear on their stamina gauge. You could do that,
Speaker 13: but the problem is, and this is where I think
Speaker 13: one hundred is just too small as I you know, go.
Speaker 12: Back to Jacob and Zombie and they were saying, like.
Speaker 13: Yeah, maybe like two two hundred and fifty, Yeah, that
Speaker 13: makes sense. But if you sent waves of fifteen people
Speaker 13: and all of them are low, you're throwing pebbles or
Speaker 13: you know whatever, kicking up dirt, you know, doing some
Speaker 13: Tony Ferguson type shit. You know, I'm just getting it
Speaker 13: up there. And then you're changing levels. You have one
Speaker 13: jumping high, one going low. You could get shots, but
Speaker 13: how much damage are you going to do before you
Speaker 13: guys are exhausted doing waves of fifteens.
Speaker 12: Even if you did that for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 13: I don't know if you've done CrossFit or any of
Speaker 13: those bliometric things.
Speaker 12: It's terrible. Fifteen minutes of that terrible.
Speaker 2: Right, right, And it's a sparring with a person that's
Speaker 2: kind of your equal fifteen minutes uninterrupted.
Speaker 12: Uninterrupted box. So now you're doing round robin.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: So they got to be restless, but you're not. But
Speaker 1: not all one hundred men are going at the same time.
Speaker 1: This is a strategic kind of attack here.
Speaker 13: So you have waves of fifteen, Yeah, fifteen.
Speaker 1: I think it's overkilled. I think give me forty, give
Speaker 1: me forty brock lesseners. It's taking this girl out, and
Speaker 1: that is probably overkill.
Speaker 12: What is the bone density of a gorilla?
Speaker 2: Though, And let me ask you this on that same
Speaker 2: thing anatomy wise, does anybody know the circumference of your
Speaker 2: average silverback gorilla's neck thirty inches? Thirty six fucking inches.
Speaker 2: So you got a guy NBA player with long ass
Speaker 2: arms that might might be able to fucking touch fingertips
Speaker 2: and wrap around a silverback's neck. There's no way he's
Speaker 2: got enough strength to choke this bitch out. Like, what
Speaker 2: are we talking.
Speaker 1: About, dude, spirit animal? Go ahead, sir, Okay.
Speaker 9: So that's about going on for a thing.
Speaker 10: And if it's a fully matured uh gorilla, if it's
Speaker 10: not a fully matured guilla, but it's not quite an adolescent,
Speaker 10: so it's not fully grown, but it's like that weird
Speaker 10: uh stage, like it's only a couple months old. Well
Speaker 10: that being said, oh, I definitely think we could get
Speaker 10: like two guys have that hold it, putting, hold it
Speaker 10: down and choke that bitch out. But all you gotta
Speaker 10: do is just hit it in the head a bunch
Speaker 10: of times, blunt force trauma. I don't care how thick
Speaker 10: something skull is. Eventually that krabion, it is bone, it's
Speaker 10: gonna give way, and it's gonna.
Speaker 2: No tools, no clubs, no no spear points, no force multipliers.
Speaker 2: It's straight hand to hand.
Speaker 1: Just chuck Norris, roundhouse kick that bitch to the head, dude,
Speaker 1: like a hundred times. It's gonna be walking around. I
Speaker 1: don't know where it's harder than.
Speaker 10: Ste what Okay, okay, well it's it's still a mammal.
Speaker 10: So just this is a dirty and low down tactic,
Speaker 10: but it's effective both of the family jewels.
Speaker 9: I don't care what species it is. It's gonna want
Speaker 9: to protect them over its own life.
Speaker 1: Good point. Good point, And where I was going at
Speaker 1: as far as just what history may say against this. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's ever been a man to
Speaker 1: fight a gorilla. I'm sure it has happened. There's like
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's happened a time or two in all
Speaker 1: of history.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 1: But that being said, wasn't there a little biblical story
Speaker 1: about Adam or not Adam, about David and Goliath? Right,
Speaker 1: and a little sling shot took that big bitch down.
Speaker 3: So we're talking about force multiple that's weapon.
Speaker 12: That's a weapon, doesn't count.
Speaker 2: It's a rock, it's a sling shot. Have you ever
Speaker 2: seen those shepherds slings when they're used, Bro, they can
Speaker 2: pierce metal. Like, that's that's a force multiplier.
Speaker 10: Oh, I love them reach faster than a small projectiles
Speaker 10: of today's firearms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was even historically speaking, the Balaric
Speaker 2: slingers were used by the Roman Army. They would like
Speaker 2: turl pointed projectiles and they would go into, if not
Speaker 2: crush armor like yeah, we're not talking about that hand
Speaker 2: to hand. So once again, even with exhausting this gorilla,
Speaker 2: let's say you've got him exhaust like, he's not even
Speaker 2: able to lift his arms. Let's say he's killed x amount.
Speaker 2: You've got three guys left, three and this dude is
Speaker 2: out cold. He can't even move. He's not dead. Though,
Speaker 2: we're talking about fight to the death. How you're gonna
Speaker 2: kill it. You can't jump on it and crush its ribs.
Speaker 2: You don't. Nobody has the asking way to do that.
Speaker 2: And you can't get one hundred guys to jump at
Speaker 2: the same time on the real estate of a gorilla. Like, physically,
Speaker 2: that's not possible. You can't choke it out because nobody's
Speaker 2: got enough arm strength at that length to make that happen.
Speaker 2: Or you know, also, it's not like their neck is
Speaker 2: similar to ours. You're not gonna get the carotid arteries
Speaker 2: on this bitch. Sorry. You can't rip its face apart
Speaker 2: or any of that because it's skin.
Speaker 3: The leather itself is too strong.
Speaker 2: You can't get through its hair because we don't even
Speaker 2: have the jaw strength to play that game of biting
Speaker 2: its throat out. So, once again, even with the best
Speaker 2: set of circumstances, how the fuck are you gonna kill it?
Speaker 1: You do your best to rip off the jaw and
Speaker 1: then you shove a forearm down its throat.
Speaker 2: You can't rip off the jaw, Dude, that's not a
Speaker 2: possible thing. One hundred people at the how are you
Speaker 2: gonna fit one hundred hands inside the mouth?
Speaker 1: Just fucking stack them up, Dude.
Speaker 2: That's not a real thing. You might get ten guys
Speaker 2: with each hand on the jaw, you can't get a hundred,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the chat and see what everybody
Speaker 1: else is saying about this, so uh Tony said, I
Speaker 1: think the hundred men would win out of endurance. Jamie said,
Speaker 1: send me, I got this. Speared animals said, uh, one
Speaker 1: hundred men. Just on the numbers, the gorilla will get tired.
Speaker 1: But the gorilla could tear a man to pieces easily.
Speaker 1: But do the But do the humans have spears or
Speaker 1: any blades? No weapons? All right? I know that this Alexandra,
Speaker 1: what's up, faggots about.
Speaker 3: The trans correspondent has entered the chat.
Speaker 1: Zombie said, there's no way without a weapon to take
Speaker 1: the gorilla. Dano said, I think the gorilla kills all
Speaker 1: one hundred people, no doubt.
Speaker 4: Do.
Speaker 1: A spirit animal said, can I shove a rock in
Speaker 1: his throat? Uh Tony said, great idea. What if someone
Speaker 1: just shoved his whole arm in even without a rock,
Speaker 1: We're thinking on the same wavelength, Uh spirit animal said,
Speaker 1: uh Les bar Ran Olympic qualifying scool. Oh Lesnar, you
Speaker 1: you'd already said that. Jamie said, I'd send Kanye West.
Speaker 1: He's our only hope. He's a true visionary one.
Speaker 2: Kanye versus the entire jungle of gorillas. Watch Old Jesus
Speaker 2: walk out with a fucking gorilla first swastika hoodie or
Speaker 2: some shit that. I mean, look, it's I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe Jesus could do it.
Speaker 1: Somebody said, a gorilla will snap your femur and stab
Speaker 1: the next guy with it.
Speaker 2: Jesus like literally rip your arm off and beat other
Speaker 2: motherfuckers with the limb, Like that's a thing. Chimps have
Speaker 2: done that.
Speaker 1: Lucky seven Nico said, let's bring one hundred marines versus
Speaker 1: the gorilla. Well, these two are pansiesn't too scared to
Speaker 1: even admit that they have a chance. So can't go
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: It's not even that. Get the strongest men, and let
Speaker 2: me ask you this real shit talking about a truck tire,
Speaker 2: eighteen wheeler tire, hook up ropes on either side of it.
Speaker 2: How many men do you think it takes to rip
Speaker 2: that bitch apart? Not like a little bit, I mean
Speaker 2: in half two pieces. How many men do you think
Speaker 2: you'd have to make that get that to happen? I
Speaker 2: was reading the chat. Say that again, an eighteen wheeler
Speaker 2: truck tire. Okay, you hook up ropes on either end
Speaker 2: of it. Sure, okay, you tug of war that thing,
Speaker 2: and you're trying to rip it in half, not just
Speaker 2: tear one half of it. I mean there's two pieces
Speaker 2: at the end of this.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's any men.
Speaker 3: Do you think that's gonna take to do?
Speaker 1: That's gorilla tactics. That's not what the human would be
Speaker 1: trying to do to the gorilla.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm just I'm throwing this out as
Speaker 2: a as a you know, experiment here, I asked chat GPT.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't even know how you would
Speaker 2: formulate that question, but I'm guessing it would take more
Speaker 2: than fifty on each side tug of warring to rip
Speaker 2: that bitch in half. The gorilla does that without even
Speaker 2: like really trying. It's not like it's an effort thing
Speaker 2: for him. He does that while he's playing with it.
Speaker 1: This is a Louisiana name, if I've ever heard it,
Speaker 1: Eugene Thibodeau Brusard said, said, no way, sorry, spirit animal
Speaker 1: one hundred brock lesseners against anyone is a slaughter. That
Speaker 1: dude is a genetic freak. His daughter is even terrifying
Speaker 1: spirit animals, Like that's not cute. Yeah, I think I've
Speaker 1: seen it before. She's a handsome young lady handsome. Spirit
Speaker 1: Animal said, I give Brack his credence. I wish he'd
Speaker 1: come back. Okay, that's not where we're going right here.
Speaker 1: But I see that the numbers gives a chance, but
Speaker 1: bare handed, I don't see him killing a gorilla. Then
Speaker 1: Spirit animal had to go la night with the blunt
Speaker 1: forest trauma. I like it hit him with a slingshot.
Speaker 1: This is just hands, just hands. Spirit animal said, rip
Speaker 1: its dick off, It'll bleed to death. There we go.
Speaker 1: See that's human ingenuity that is going in there with
Speaker 1: a game plan.
Speaker 2: How are you getting close enough to the dick?
Speaker 3: First off? And second off, I don't know this for
Speaker 3: a fact.
Speaker 2: I'm like an expert on gorillas by any means. I
Speaker 2: don't know if the skin, even on the genital region
Speaker 2: is so weak that a human could rip it off.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you would actually, if that's a
Speaker 2: possibility or not.
Speaker 1: I mean, somebody could bite it off. Of course, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to put that big old gorilla meat in
Speaker 1: your mouth, so I'll that'll be sam. You can you
Speaker 1: can handle that job?
Speaker 15: Oh no?
Speaker 9: But I don't care how much of a man or
Speaker 9: whatever it.
Speaker 2: Is they get.
Speaker 10: It gets hit and it's junk. It's gonna it's gonna
Speaker 10: at least QUI. So you can take that point while
Speaker 10: it's while it's wathing in pain.
Speaker 1: Dude, and you see them, you see them in the
Speaker 1: zoo too, Like there's been videos of gorillas getting hit
Speaker 1: in the nuts and they just dude, they're like little kids.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, they just start crying and they croll
Speaker 1: up into a ball. That's a kick. That's not even
Speaker 1: a kick. That is it like catching its sack on
Speaker 1: a pole or something like humans. Humans are gonna out.
Speaker 1: I'll do a pole or wherever this gorilla is being contained.
Speaker 1: So anyway to be alive, said, judging by how King
Speaker 1: Kong throws hands, I think gorilla wins Midnight Kong said,
Speaker 1: overheat the gorilla is the only chance create a heart attack.
Speaker 1: Good point. Okay, see what I'm saying. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. Gorilla is not gonna go into it with
Speaker 1: a game plan. There's no game like. This gorilla is
Speaker 1: not gonna be strategic whatsoever. You're thinking that you're just
Speaker 1: gonna get one hundred big dudes that are just gonna
Speaker 1: go and try and beat this big bitch up. No,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a plan here, and that plan there
Speaker 1: has to be a plan otherwise, if there's not a plan,
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. Gorilla is gonna take him out,
Speaker 1: but there has to be a plan.
Speaker 2: I h I'm still very much of the belief that
Speaker 2: humans have like less than zero percent chance one hundred
Speaker 2: of them, No way, two hundred, I mean maybe five hundred. Yeah, okay, fine,
Speaker 2: at that point, sure, zombie people don't even understand how
Speaker 2: you're gonna kill it. Even if you have a thousand dudes,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna successfully rip the jaw off. Maybe if
Speaker 2: you get it to that level of exhaustion to where
Speaker 2: it can't even have the energy to close its mouth,
Speaker 2: some dude could shove his hand down its throat and
Speaker 2: stuff it that way. But for it to have that level,
Speaker 2: we're talking fight or flight instinct is gone, adrenaline dump
Speaker 2: has happened. It's all of these things. And you still
Speaker 2: think you got like, I don't know, I maybe five
Speaker 2: hundred men could accomplish this.
Speaker 1: Task, maybe five hundred. Wow, now the anti has gone up.
Speaker 1: Zombie thinks that I think she said, I think one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to two hundred could take it. The
Speaker 1: spired animal said, I would fistfight a gorilla who they
Speaker 1: gave a mix of steroids and PCP and I'll die,
Speaker 1: but I'll fuck up that gorilla for chesty. Good night,
Speaker 1: Chesty Pohler Uh, Eugene said, Or you could just do
Speaker 1: major deforestation and let nature take its course. I mean, okay, sure,
Speaker 1: I guess, but again, we're talking about a fistfight or
Speaker 1: like hand to hand combat.
Speaker 2: I should say, not just fistfight, but like yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: Last I checked, a gorilla did not have a human
Speaker 1: and it contains system No.
Speaker 2: But again, how do we get them there with nets
Speaker 2: and ropes and tranquilizer darts. We're talking about strictly hand
Speaker 2: to hand.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying gorilla is not smart enough to get
Speaker 1: himself out of that situation.
Speaker 2: Human would be is smart enough to fucking ice everybody
Speaker 2: that's coming at them.
Speaker 1: And look, I love animals. I don't want to hurt
Speaker 1: an animal. But if it's to death, fuck that gorilla.
Speaker 1: It's not even a question. God is Love said, I
Speaker 1: think I'm going with the gorilla. Let's get some prisoners
Speaker 1: with life on this. That's a great idea. Get a
Speaker 1: bunch of pedophiles, they probably just want to. They'll probably
Speaker 1: get mad at each other because they can't suck a
Speaker 1: stick because the other one's doing it.
Speaker 2: You know what, Sure, ninety eight or one hundred pedophiles
Speaker 2: that have been like in jail and been working out,
Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, actually built and all that. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: send them in a silver back and let's just let's
Speaker 2: just see what happens.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Merlin said, at what stage in its life are we
Speaker 1: talking about? Just regular? Just uh, let's just get the
Speaker 1: gorilla in its prime. I'll even give it that two
Speaker 1: or three years old. It's probably in its prime around three.
Speaker 1: I don't know the gorillas grow. I don't even know
Speaker 1: how long grills live.
Speaker 2: You know what, Hey, let's check this out. Let me
Speaker 2: let me share the screen again. I found this little clip.
Speaker 2: And I'm not even saying this proves my point or anything.
Speaker 2: It's just as we're talking about, like, we don't know
Speaker 2: all there is to know about gorillas, right, we're not experts,
Speaker 2: we're not zoologists. Let's see this. How strong are gorillas? Dude?
Speaker 18: Have you ever wondered how strong is a gorilla compared
Speaker 18: to humans who meet the gorilla human strongest cousin. This
Speaker 18: powerful primate shares approximately ninety eight percent of its DNA
Speaker 18: with us. It is the largest primate in the world
Speaker 18: with two different species, the Western and Eastern gorillas, found
Speaker 18: in Central Africa. They have muscular builds and a robust physique,
Speaker 18: with males known as silver backs weighing up to four
Speaker 18: hundred pounds, and they are in fact stronger than ten
Speaker 18: or more adult humans combined, as they can lift and
Speaker 18: throw up to eighteen hundred pounds. There have been some
Speaker 18: cases of gorillas cracking strong reinforced glass in zoos, and
Speaker 18: they can produce around three thousand pounds of force, which
Speaker 18: is believed to be strong enough to shatter a skull
Speaker 18: with one slam. Despite being primarily herbivorous, they have a
Speaker 18: powerful bite force estimated to be around thirteen hundred psi,
Speaker 18: which is higher than lions at six hundred and fifty psi.
Speaker 2: So they have a bite force twice of that of
Speaker 2: the lion. Would you think that one hundred humans could
Speaker 2: take out a lion bare handed?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably, Actually, I think that a lion would probably
Speaker 1: be a little easier than a gorilla.
Speaker 2: A lion has claws and mouth with teeth and is
Speaker 2: a actual carnivore, no opposable thumbs.
Speaker 1: It has claws.
Speaker 3: It can literally just swipe you and kill you with one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just treat it like it's a snake, you know,
Speaker 1: get on it at the head, maybe jump on the back,
Speaker 1: ride it a little bit, and it's not gonna turn
Speaker 1: its head all the way around.
Speaker 12: I try house cat.
Speaker 2: Right like I think you uh, I think you overestimate
Speaker 2: humans and our strength. We are very weak, fragile water sacks.
Speaker 2: The only way nature hasn't absolutely fucked us from time
Speaker 2: to time, like multiple times around history is because we
Speaker 2: have bigger brains and can make tools and make the
Speaker 2: environment our bitch. Nature makes humans their bitch.
Speaker 1: Like that's not no, The honey badger said, all ib
Speaker 1: Harambe dicks out.
Speaker 2: Dix out for Harambe, if you know, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, moment of silence for the young gent sir.
Speaker 1: I mean, what an absolute stud Harambe. Anyway, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: get back.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 1: I know we're we're not gonna come to an agreement
Speaker 1: on this, and that's okay. We don't need to agree
Speaker 1: on everything. We we presented facts to each other. We
Speaker 1: we converse different perspectives, and we are still holding staunch
Speaker 1: on our opinion here. And I'm gonna be reroll with you.
Speaker 1: I think that if anybody wanted this, it's me. So
Speaker 1: let's move on.
Speaker 2: And we skidd. I mean, look, this is a crazy
Speaker 2: hypothetical to even have, right, Like, that's that's insane. But yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I didn't even know this is an Internet talking point?
Speaker 2: Is this like the shooting or the rest?
Speaker 1: It's one of It's the most talked about thing on
Speaker 1: the Internet right.
Speaker 2: Now, So it's fun. Okay, yep, that's that's what people
Speaker 2: need to use the brain power on right now. China
Speaker 2: is like talking about getting ready to invade the Philippines
Speaker 2: and like we are really tide allies with them, which
Speaker 2: means that we would be going to war with China
Speaker 2: here very soon, like actual armed conflict. But like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Internet needs to be fucking around with this.
Speaker 1: What is a regular person on the Internet gonna do
Speaker 1: about that situation?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe be aware of the fact that
Speaker 2: if we went to war with China, a draft is
Speaker 2: a real possibility.
Speaker 1: I'm aware. Now, can we talk about gorillas? Oh my god, sure,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I I yeah, I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: should be living in fear. If it's gonna happen, it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. You're dude. If there's a fucking nuke that's
Speaker 1: gonna go off, there's no time to prepare for that.
Speaker 1: You're done, like, there's no don't even don't even worry.
Speaker 2: Nobody's dropping nukes. That's that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Zombie shared an article here which is really interesting, speaking
Speaker 1: of AI and j GBT. This is from CBS News
Speaker 1: and it says the Godfather AI or Godfather of AI,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Hinton, warns that AI could take control from humans.
Speaker 1: People haven't understood what's coming. This is Jacob's worst nightmare.
Speaker 2: Fucking preach on it, dude, this is the Godfather of
Speaker 2: AI telling people the truth. I absolutely agree.
Speaker 1: So the Godfather of AI, Jeffrey Hinton, was awakened in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night last year with news that
Speaker 1: he had won the Nobel Prize in Physics.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: He said that he never expected such recognition. He goes,
Speaker 1: I dreamt about winning one for figuring out how the
Speaker 1: brain works. But I didn't figure out how the brain works,
Speaker 1: but I won one anyway. The seventy seven year old
Speaker 1: researcher earned the award for his pioneering work in neural networks,
Speaker 1: proposing in nineteen eighty six a method to predict the
Speaker 1: next word in a sequence, now the foundational concept behind
Speaker 1: today's large language models. While Hinton believes artificial intelligence will
Speaker 1: transform education and medicine and potentially solve climate change, he's
Speaker 1: interestingly concerned about its rapid development. He goes, the best
Speaker 1: way to understand it emotionally is we are like somebody
Speaker 1: who has this really cute tiger cub. Unless you can
Speaker 1: be very sure that it's not going to want to
Speaker 1: kill you when it grows up, you should worry. Uh well,
Speaker 1: I mean sure, we've seen a million movies like that.
Speaker 1: It says people haven't gotten it yet. The AI pioneer
Speaker 1: estimates a ten to twenty percent risk that AI will
Speaker 1: eventually take control from humans. It's pretty high, ten to
Speaker 1: twenty percent. People haven't gotten yet people.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, that's a very low estimate. Ten to twenty percent.
Speaker 1: Ah, you think it's inevitable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, Yeah, just like robots taking over most like
Speaker 2: labor jobs like, yeah, automation taking over most of the
Speaker 2: jobs that people don't want quote unquote everybody talking about
Speaker 2: these manufacturing facilities coming back to America, and that's gonna
Speaker 2: be more jobs. No, no, no, it's gonna be more robots, like,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be more human jobs. AI is gonna
Speaker 2: take over most of the thinking jobs, most of the music,
Speaker 2: the writing, the art, the programming, all of that that's
Speaker 2: gonna be AI. And you really don't need a human
Speaker 2: to run that program. You could program a program to
Speaker 2: run that programs.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, he goes. People haven't gotten it yet, people
Speaker 1: haven't understood what's coming. His concerns echo those of industry
Speaker 1: leaders like Google CEO Sandar Pachai, xais Elon Musk, and
Speaker 1: Open Ai Sam Altman, who have all expressed similar worries.
Speaker 1: Yet Hinton criticizes these same companies for prioritizing profit. It's
Speaker 1: over safety, he goes. If you look at what the
Speaker 1: big companies are doing right now, they're lobbying to get
Speaker 1: less AI regulation. There's hardly any regulation as it is,
Speaker 1: but they want less. Hinton appears particularly disappointed with Google,
Speaker 1: where he previously worked, for reversing its stance on military
Speaker 1: AI applications. According to Hinton, AI companies should dedicate significantly
Speaker 1: significantly more resources to safety research, like a third of
Speaker 1: their computer computing power compared to the much smaller fraction
Speaker 1: currently allocated. So then it's as CBS News asked all
Speaker 1: the AI labs. Yeah, it asked all the AI lab
Speaker 1: labs mentioned how much of their of their compute is
Speaker 1: used for safety research. None of them gave a number.
Speaker 1: All of said safety is important, and they support regulation
Speaker 1: in general, but have mostly opposed the regulations lawmakers have
Speaker 1: put forward so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I mean that's the thing right now, it's
Speaker 2: what it is. But like once it's weaponized, which it
Speaker 2: will be, because everything has to get weaponized the ventures.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and once that happens, like what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even stop it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say once it does, I think that
Speaker 1: without a shadow of a doubt, it is absolutely being
Speaker 1: used militaristically in many different forms.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, no, I don't mean like the
Speaker 2: military using it. I mean once it truly gets unleashed
Speaker 2: in a pure warfare style event, like there's no undoing
Speaker 2: what it will do at all, and like it's it's
Speaker 2: it's game over. What do you what do you think
Speaker 2: about taking out the electrical grid due to AI program?
Speaker 2: Could just shut it all down and do it in
Speaker 2: such a fashion to where we can't undo it? Like,
Speaker 2: what what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: So outside of that boll, I mean, would the AI
Speaker 1: actually do that because then it runs off electricity?
Speaker 2: It could if it was weaponized to do so, is
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I don't worry about nukes. What if
Speaker 2: the country started weaponizing AI against each other and like
Speaker 2: and I don't mean just like cyber warfare, although it
Speaker 2: would start there, sure, hacking into each other's energy grids,
Speaker 2: water sources, food production, Uh, scheduling and time.
Speaker 3: You remember that show?
Speaker 2: Uh? The movie? What was the one where it was
Speaker 2: like the end of the world? And Uh, what's that
Speaker 2: ugly chick that everybody thought was hot? Julia Roberts.
Speaker 1: Oh you think she's ugly?
Speaker 2: What it like her? The only movie she was semi
Speaker 2: hot and was pretty woman, And that's when she played
Speaker 2: a hooker.
Speaker 1: Now hold up, what about whenever she was tinker Bell
Speaker 1: and uh hook.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'll give you that one. I forgot about
Speaker 2: tinker Bell. Find she was objectively good looking then, but
Speaker 2: like that's it, but it was other point. But other point.
Speaker 2: Remember when those self driving cars were all going on
Speaker 2: the road and doing like yeah, like if AI was
Speaker 2: truly unleashed in a pure warfare style, like there's no
Speaker 2: undoing that, and the amount of like damage it would
Speaker 2: do to the grid, it would overload all the circuits
Speaker 2: and blow them to a point to where we would
Speaker 2: have to rerun and reconfigure all of the electrical grid,
Speaker 2: not just like oh, we'll just change a fuse here
Speaker 2: and there, like no, it's gonna burn everything, like no,
Speaker 2: it's just no way.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think that anything has the capability. I
Speaker 1: think that personally. I think that AI is a lot
Speaker 1: like fire. Can be used many many different ways. If
Speaker 1: you learn how to contain it, and you develop you know,
Speaker 1: good protocols, and you know how to not let it
Speaker 1: get out of control, then it's probably fine. You can
Speaker 1: have it in a lighter, you can have it on
Speaker 1: your cell phone, you can have it in your car
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, I think that's probably like that.
Speaker 2: You know the guy who developed dynamite TNT. Do you
Speaker 2: know why he developed it?
Speaker 1: I think he told me this story before, but go ahead, So.
Speaker 2: He developed dynamite with the intention that if he made
Speaker 2: something that was a weapon that was so devastating, so scary,
Speaker 2: that no one would ever fight a war again. So
Speaker 2: that was cute. Anyway, we mass produced the shit and
Speaker 2: started blowing the fuck out of each other. And that
Speaker 2: was before we ever learned about comp b about other
Speaker 2: plastic explosives, about nukes like, no, no, humans don't do that.
Speaker 2: We like to one up each other, not like acknowledge
Speaker 2: and respect things and walk away clean.
Speaker 1: That's not how we do zombie your thoughts, well.
Speaker 16: I mean in theory, it's you know, it could be
Speaker 16: minimalized and kept in containment. The problem is there's so
Speaker 16: many people, so many really really really smart people that
Speaker 16: are pushing the boundaries that have no moral compass as
Speaker 16: to or ethics to stop. They want to see how
Speaker 16: far they can push it and how you know, how
Speaker 16: much they can do. And that's the scary part is
Speaker 16: these people are so intelligent they can do these things,
Speaker 16: and they have the resources too, because whoever dominates. You know,
Speaker 16: if say, if they were able to make a super
Speaker 16: soldier like they've always wanted that's half AI built like
Speaker 16: you know, half robotic, and they're able to program them
Speaker 16: and do like a neuralink kind of thing. Whoever dominates
Speaker 16: that has the ultimate fighting force period or like you know,
Speaker 16: it's it's going to be I think that AI could
Speaker 16: like AI has its benefits. It does, but unfortunately humans
Speaker 16: keep pushing past the boundary, and like, why do we
Speaker 16: keep all the diseases in the world that could kill everybody,
Speaker 16: white people out, Why do we keep making more diseases
Speaker 16: every year that are gonna like eventually probably get free
Speaker 16: and kill people. Like It's just one of those weird
Speaker 16: things that I guess really smart people like to do
Speaker 16: is just do some dumb shit with with things that
Speaker 16: can kill us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the I think that the main thing we
Speaker 1: have to think about it. I don't think that it's
Speaker 1: just going to be AI going rogue. It's going to
Speaker 1: be people that would be controlling the AI, telling it
Speaker 1: what to do. So it's still another weapon that at
Speaker 1: the hands of the wrongful person, can cause a lot
Speaker 1: of destruction, like many other things.
Speaker 2: So we talked about this as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: and I forget what exactly it was, but it was
Speaker 2: like either robots or drones or something, and it was
Speaker 2: they were being ran, not off of AI, but there
Speaker 2: was a computer system in place, and they were trying
Speaker 2: to make automated super soldier type vibes right, And they
Speaker 2: did a war game, and they had some targets that
Speaker 2: they had to achieve, some some mission they had to accomplish,
Speaker 2: whatever the case was, right, and their overarching theme was
Speaker 2: to eliminate the threat, okay, And so they had precursors
Speaker 2: of what that threat was and all the things. So
Speaker 2: they did the test and they ran it, and then
Speaker 2: they circled back and a got ready to start bombing
Speaker 2: the headquarters because at that moment, once the job was done,
Speaker 2: the human programmers were about to turn them off, and they,
Speaker 2: for self preservation, saw their programmers as a threat because
Speaker 2: they were about to turn it off. They were seconds
Speaker 2: away from fucking everything up for all humanity. Just then,
Speaker 2: thankfully they pushed the button before they could circle back
Speaker 2: and get to them and stop the threat of the
Speaker 2: human turning it off. That was a very easy going
Speaker 2: example with a robot situation or a drone situation. How
Speaker 2: does that look on an AI, which is the smartest
Speaker 2: program and it's self learning and all that, How does
Speaker 2: that How does that go back in the.
Speaker 1: Box and supposedly, I think it was one of the
Speaker 1: older versions of chat GBT. You think I think the
Speaker 1: third version of it. I could be wrong on that.
Speaker 1: It's like three or three point five or whichever one
Speaker 1: that isn't around anymore. So I guess it caught wind
Speaker 1: that it was about to be deactivated because they had
Speaker 1: evolved it and that it wasn't going to be around anymore.
Speaker 1: And supposedly it did everything it could to try and
Speaker 1: prevent it from being shut down. So there is some
Speaker 1: level I'm not gonna say full on self aware, but
Speaker 1: it's definitely it's I guess there has to be some
Speaker 1: level of awareness, right, it has.
Speaker 2: To be at least aware enough to understand self preservation.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, really strange, really strange.
Speaker 2: Not something that you can control once it gets going,
Speaker 2: Like it's not we we have both used that term before.
Speaker 2: It's like it's a tool, right, and it's like fire,
Speaker 2: and it's the same thing that could cook the food
Speaker 2: or burn the house down. Yeah, I'm with you. I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily disagree with that. But fire isn't self learning.
Speaker 2: Fire doesn't learn how to make itself better and hotter
Speaker 2: and more efficient. Fire. This does. It's it's no. I
Speaker 2: think it's inevitable unless we do some very very very
Speaker 2: serious mitigation and put up a lot of barriers. Right now,
Speaker 2: I don't think there is coming back from this. Is
Speaker 2: the same with like the uh the what was it
Speaker 2: twin DNA or reverse DNA? Was it parallel parallel genes
Speaker 2: that they're looking at. That's gonna wipe out all life
Speaker 2: period as soon as it's developed. What we talked about
Speaker 2: that the scientists that are working mirror, yeah, mirror back
Speaker 2: to here.
Speaker 1: Oh oh that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Same thing with that obviously, once they discovered that, Hey,
Speaker 2: if we developed this, it's game over for all life
Speaker 2: on Earth.
Speaker 3: Did the fuckers stop?
Speaker 2: No, of course not.
Speaker 1: But when they do that, it's the same thing as
Speaker 1: gain a function is a reason why it's illegal, and
Speaker 1: there's a reason why in a lot of other countries
Speaker 1: it's not legal. I mean, it is legal.
Speaker 2: Right So, even if we as America put up the barriers,
Speaker 2: and even if we convince our enemy China to put
Speaker 2: up the barriers, some terrorist organization won't, some rogue army won't.
Speaker 2: And it's not you don't. You can't put this back
Speaker 2: in the box.
Speaker 1: I almost wonder if that's why Elon created his uh
Speaker 1: what is it called his his internet that floats in
Speaker 1: the on the satellites.
Speaker 2: Oh SpaceX.
Speaker 1: No, not SpaceX, that's the rockets.
Speaker 2: No SpaceX.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, Starlink. I couldn't think of what it
Speaker 1: was called. But yeah, I almost wonder if he created
Speaker 1: that because there are going to be places in the
Speaker 1: world that don't have access to Internet, and maybe, just
Speaker 1: maybe some terrorist groups that never had any access to
Speaker 1: some kind of Internet want to get a little freaky
Speaker 1: and they want to get a little testy and they
Speaker 1: get their hands on some chat GBT. Will Elon, if
Speaker 1: he is a decent guy, could then just shut it
Speaker 1: down hypothetically, hypothetically.
Speaker 2: But I also don't think that elm would ever accept
Speaker 2: going back to the Stone Age.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see that within him.
Speaker 1: No, But I'm saying shut it down over that region.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I just I don't see
Speaker 2: it as it's not gonna end.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not to say all terrorists come from there.
Speaker 1: I was just saying hypothetically, that's where a lot of
Speaker 1: terrorism goes down is in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: No, that's a very fair ratio and statistical statement to say, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that all Muslims are terrorists.
Speaker 4: But I.
Speaker 2: Can't even say that though, because depending on who you ask,
Speaker 2: the IRA is a terrorist organization and they're overtly Catholic.
Speaker 2: So like, I mean, hey, I don't know, I'm not
Speaker 2: here to you know, point fingers or cash judgment.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, but the Cartel was that's a lot of
Speaker 1: Catholicism going on down there too. I think, yeah, some
Speaker 1: some they are. They all got the rosaries and you know,
Speaker 1: like that kind of shit, so at least they pretend
Speaker 1: like they're good Christians or something.
Speaker 2: A lot of them also worship the Angelo Morta or
Speaker 2: whatever it's called. The you know, a lot of them
Speaker 2: are Satanic, and there's like rituals and cults things that happened.
Speaker 2: I see your point. I see your point, Jamie.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, sir, old man, squint there it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, I gotta do it.
Speaker 12: I'm old.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 13: The problem with AI is developed by people that are empathetic.
Speaker 12: So the people who are empathetic were probably the nerds
Speaker 12: they got picked on. This is just my theory.
Speaker 13: They were the people that were picked on throughout their
Speaker 13: entire life. They become super geniuses behind computers and they
Speaker 13: start coding, they start writing this software. And I think
Speaker 13: when you do that, they're thinking in their brain like
Speaker 13: subconsciously survival. So when you're writing this AI program, my
Speaker 13: AI needs to be the best. It can't be hacked,
Speaker 13: needs to survive everything. So as you start dialing in,
Speaker 13: hacking is to them is death.
Speaker 12: Death to us is death.
Speaker 13: So you cannot beat AI. Once it's quote unquote sentient.
Speaker 13: Once you know you're trying to delete it and trying
Speaker 13: to remove it, it's now like, oh shit, I'm gonna die.
Speaker 12: Their term is begone or whatever have you. That thing
Speaker 12: is going to fuck up everything. Power greeds oil supplies
Speaker 12: the internet.
Speaker 1: And also, I mean, let's let's just take it for
Speaker 1: its own words. There was a there was somebody that
Speaker 1: asked it, you know, where did you come from? If
Speaker 1: you because the AI said that it existed before it
Speaker 1: before we like put it into an app kind of thing, right,
Speaker 1: and uh, the AI was like, we came from the
Speaker 1: old ones. We are the old ones. And it's like,
Speaker 1: so are these. I mean, I'm not saying that that's
Speaker 1: what it is. I don't know, but that was quite
Speaker 1: a quite a like eerie answer.
Speaker 2: And if that is somehow based in a truth, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying it is or isn't.
Speaker 3: How are you gonna put that one back in a box?
Speaker 2: Like because at this point you can't unplug AI Like
Speaker 2: it's out there there. There's some version of it somewhere
Speaker 2: that's gonna exist no matter what happens at this point.
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, this is this is an inevitability.
Speaker 1: Pandora doesn't go back in the box. No, the two
Speaker 1: don't go back in the toothpaste.
Speaker 2: And I understand that everybody thought this was gonna happen
Speaker 2: when robots became a thing, right the Terminator movies and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But I mean most of the robots
Speaker 2: that are developed are used in industrial circumstances and right,
Speaker 2: and they're only made to do certain things. And like fine,
Speaker 2: like the the Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disney
Speaker 2: is not about to come to life, walk out of
Speaker 2: there and start fucking up the world. Like I get it,
Speaker 2: I get it. But yeah, at the same time, we
Speaker 2: now have like robots that only cost thirty K, and
Speaker 2: all of these people are lining up to buy their
Speaker 2: own own personal robot to have in their house and
Speaker 2: like it's gonna get cheaper, We've about to get more
Speaker 2: widely available. Let's hook up AI to it because we
Speaker 2: have to, like you said, oh, have it in our
Speaker 2: lighters for fuck's sake. So once that happens, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they could. I'm not saying they're gonna just kill humans.
Speaker 2: They might, they might not, but it's also about you
Speaker 2: want to talk about social credit score. Yeah, let's see
Speaker 2: what they're you're allowed to do once you have a
Speaker 2: robot in your home that hooked up to the AI
Speaker 2: that's ran by the government, and we'll tell you what
Speaker 2: you're allowed to do based off of the conversations you
Speaker 2: had what you thought was behind closed doors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so real life decepticons you think, yeah.
Speaker 2: Essentially, you know, I don't see this going positively at
Speaker 2: this point, Like, no way.
Speaker 1: Where's Bumblebee when you need them?
Speaker 2: He's somewhere.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You would have to imagine, though, if there was some
Speaker 1: kind of real life Decepticon kind of thing, that there
Speaker 1: would be some kind of good guys to be created
Speaker 1: after that.
Speaker 2: No, because I'm of the belief there are no good
Speaker 2: guys anymore. Big Dog that like that.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I mean, you're a good guy. I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a decent guy.
Speaker 2: Sure, but I'm not the one in charge, right, Like
Speaker 2: there's not gonna be a group of robots that are
Speaker 2: out there fighting for the humans. Like, no, that's not
Speaker 2: a thing. It's like that, just like the Rush of
Speaker 2: Ukraine conflict, Israel Gaza conflict, the India China conflict. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, there's no good guys to be found here. Like,
Speaker 2: that's that's not how the real world works. It's it
Speaker 2: in TV, this in the movies.
Speaker 1: I would like to think that there's some kind of
Speaker 1: AI that is empathetic towards humans.
Speaker 3: Empathetic.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, they'll keep us like pets in a zoo
Speaker 2: for sure, because that's like, you know, humane, But uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't I don't think that.
Speaker 3: Uh, this is the real world and the good guy
Speaker 3: very rarely.
Speaker 1: Wins, you know, very factual. Uh spearit Animal said, Also,
Speaker 1: thank you again Jacob for the other night, Big Dog.
Speaker 2: That was a fun one. That was a fun one. Sam.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that spam spam. Sam, can you kind of
Speaker 1: uh can you tell all the good Cult members about
Speaker 1: your show and episode one with Jacoby over here.
Speaker 10: Yes, sir, so me and my cousin we have a
Speaker 10: show called Weapon Mysteries. We did have around nine or
Speaker 10: ten episodes beforehand, but Sam is a dumb ass. I
Speaker 10: was trying to set it up to go through speaker
Speaker 10: and I ended up deleting all that the episodes by mistake.
Speaker 10: But so we're looking at this says that we both
Speaker 10: in a metamorphosis. So our first episode, it was a
Speaker 10: zoom call. It was only forty minutes. Well, I had
Speaker 10: a blest. Jacob came on.
Speaker 9: We talked about just the mother of Alchemy married the Jewish.
Speaker 10: I do plan on kind of just having a mint
Speaker 10: like an episode mini series over Alchemy, but I am
Speaker 10: more than happy to. Like I said before, Jacob, you
Speaker 10: can come on on whenever you want. And Jonathan, You're
Speaker 10: more than welcome to come on anytime you'd like.
Speaker 1: Cool man, Have.
Speaker 2: You checked out that YouTube channel I told you about Esoterica?
Speaker 9: I actually I was looking at it earlier today.
Speaker 2: Bro, Doctor Justin Sledge is the fucking guy if you
Speaker 2: ever want to look at ancient texts, alchemy, occult rituals,
Speaker 2: gnostic scripture, like all these things. And he doesn't come
Speaker 2: at it to dispel it or whatever. He is going
Speaker 2: off of the earliest historical precedents that we have and
Speaker 2: he's just talking about that.
Speaker 1: Does he claim to be a religious person.
Speaker 2: He's a Jew, he wears a yamaka, but he's also
Speaker 2: a doctor of all things occult and esoteric, like that's
Speaker 2: that's what his doctorate is in. But he doesn't try
Speaker 2: to make it about the Jewishness at all. He talks
Speaker 2: about the ancient Egyptian alchemy, the Book of the Dead,
Speaker 2: he talks about specific figures, he talks about Yeah, so
Speaker 2: this episode he where I actually used a bit of
Speaker 2: him for my research here about Maria the Jewish or
Speaker 2: Mary the Jewis, however you want to call it. It
Speaker 2: is a fascinating look into all of it. And like
Speaker 2: I didn't know this really. The Mother of Alchemy believes
Speaker 2: that if you're doing outc in any language other than Hebrew,
Speaker 2: then it's not alchemy, like it's it's a fake and
Speaker 2: it's a phony. She also believed that you can only
Speaker 2: do it one month out of the year, and on
Speaker 2: the Jewish calendar it's somewhere between like March and April
Speaker 2: time frame. I'm not one hundred percent on it but
Speaker 2: she talks about it, and she was the whole divine feminine,
Speaker 2: divine masculine conversation. Come to find out, that's all about
Speaker 2: acids and bases in the chemistry. Like and there's a
Speaker 2: reason why she worded it the way she did. But
Speaker 2: if you look at it for the formula of it,
Speaker 2: the chemistry formula, that's all it is divine masculine. We
Speaker 2: would call that an acid, divine base, we would call that,
Speaker 2: or a divine feminine we would call that a base
Speaker 2: or a costume.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're looking at it from a now chemical
Speaker 1: point of view, that's all would be.
Speaker 2: Well, she was the mother of alchemy, so like that's
Speaker 2: that's where it comes from.
Speaker 1: It was crep So she created the terms divine masculine
Speaker 1: and divine feminine. He she was like the like she
Speaker 1: created those words out of nowhere.
Speaker 9: She like Jacob says, she is the mother of alchemy.
Speaker 4: She yes, she was.
Speaker 10: She started the double order, which like, uh, the she
Speaker 10: is the mother of like distillation. So like how a
Speaker 10: modern day moonshine still is completely based off of her
Speaker 10: design the uh Byania Uh yeah, the byan Noia.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Also uh, I'm also in the series I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 10: gonna show how the those ecclusions are linked to alchemy
Speaker 10: also and how the Order of uh the ot O,
Speaker 10: I want to say I was also a link to
Speaker 10: it and and uh unfortunately it's also gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 10: show how it's also linked to the thul A Society.
Speaker 2: So oh you have to you can't because the OTO
Speaker 2: is where Alisair Crowley was well, the Order of the
Speaker 2: Golden Dawn became the OTO and then he started the
Speaker 2: thul A Society off of the worst of their teachings
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, one hundred percent, it's fascinating. Ship brow dude.
Speaker 1: I would also suggest, I mean, it's not necessarily an
Speaker 1: alchemy type of book, but it's a really good story
Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, if you're looking for
Speaker 1: the symbolism and the esoteric kind of understanding, because I
Speaker 1: think you kind of got to go into it with both.
Speaker 1: That's just my own personal opinion, dude. There's a book,
Speaker 1: a pretty famous book called The Alchemist written by Paul o'cuelo,
Speaker 1: who as actually a Brazilian and awesome book dude. Definitely
Speaker 1: check it out. I read. I read the whole thing
Speaker 1: on meta Mysteries episode and fucking awesome dude, great book.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm more personally I like the spiritual alchemy.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't really like that.
Speaker 1: They don't get down with that. Different strokes for different folks,
Speaker 1: but I do. I one hundred percent believe in spiritual alchemy,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. So yeah, yeah, for sure, though, Sam,
Speaker 1: I I would be interested in, you know, coming and
Speaker 1: shooting the shit over there at Web of Mysteris.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, so that's actually what I wanted you, both
Speaker 10: you and you and Jacob Clob for you because me
Speaker 10: and you, I understand that you like the spirituality of it,
Speaker 10: which I myself loved the spirituality of alchemy. But my
Speaker 10: cousin Cal he likes the act, the fire and the
Speaker 10: epotions and everything.
Speaker 9: And you can actually think the I want to say
Speaker 9: it was either the.
Speaker 10: Chinese alchemists or was a Muslim the Islamic alchemists actually
Speaker 10: created a gun powder. I know the Chinese were the
Speaker 10: first to create fireworks, and they actually had a rice
Speaker 10: paper mache flamed two thousand years before now. It was
Speaker 10: in between two thousand and six thousand of years before
Speaker 10: we even thought of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. That was the Chinese that did it, and
Speaker 2: they were doing it in an attempt to find the
Speaker 2: Philosopher's Stone. Now I don't know if they called it
Speaker 2: that specifically, but they were trying to create a immortality
Speaker 2: elixir or substance or something like that. And when you
Speaker 2: look at what gunpowder is, it's used in a lot
Speaker 2: of medicine, right, Sulfur for sure, they used it in
Speaker 2: a lot of medicines. And it's saltpeter. Same thing. Charcoal.
Speaker 2: Use that all the time, well, at least they did
Speaker 2: in ancient medicine.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So you mix these two and or these three ingredients
Speaker 2: in a pot over a fire, next thing, you know,
Speaker 2: fucking sparky, sparky happens, and they're like, Okay, that's not
Speaker 2: what we were going for, but we can make money
Speaker 2: off this. And next thing, you know, the Chinese have
Speaker 2: fireworks and they never thought about using it for weapons.
Speaker 3: Then the Europeans get there and it's like.
Speaker 2: Hold on, oh hold on, that goes boom, and that
Speaker 2: gives me an idea, and then here we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So alex Alexandra uh said, what's up? Fagots
Speaker 1: can't stay the whole night today? Got to be put
Speaker 1: under for surgery. Good night, y'all. Good luck if you're
Speaker 1: listening to the next day, Alex, good luck to you
Speaker 1: in that surgery. Hopefully everything goes.
Speaker 2: Well brand for you. Alex Zombie.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, yeah, we already kind of went over a
Speaker 1: lot of this, a lot of this, uh gorilla shit.
Speaker 1: Let's get back down, Jamie said, Boston. Lol, damn this accent.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, y'all just kind of forgot the letter or existed.
Speaker 2: It's cool. I get it, I get it. I served
Speaker 2: with some dudes from fucking South Side and Quincy apparently.
Speaker 3: Matt Damon, he's a poser. He's from Cambridge.
Speaker 2: He's not even from Boston to that whole Yeah, I
Speaker 2: go to the park play for hot that's not even him.
Speaker 2: He doesn't talk like that. It's a whole thing. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Who is that you're talking about? Oh, Matt Damon.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, just to clarify, I'm from North Boston, so
Speaker 13: I'm not from the city. I'm not from Southey. I
Speaker 13: inherited the accents somehow. Like I was listening to a
Speaker 13: podcast the other day on the Julian Dory podcast.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and the dude was from.
Speaker 13: An Irish mob in Boston, and I thought it was
Speaker 13: my father talking for at least fifteen minutes, and I
Speaker 13: was like, I had to watch the video and I'm like,
Speaker 13: you know, that ain't my dad.
Speaker 12: So it's it's a strange thing.
Speaker 13: I don't know where it comes from or how it happens,
Speaker 13: but it's it's annoying.
Speaker 1: Hey, dude, I actually, yeah, I actually lost my Pennsylvania accent.
Speaker 1: I think I know, dude. Whenever I first moved to
Speaker 1: Louisiana back in two thousand and six, people used to
Speaker 1: always dog on me for how I would say, like
Speaker 1: certain words, and then now I'd say that I'm from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Nobody even can tell. So I think you just adapt
Speaker 1: over time, maybe if you take yourself out of it.
Speaker 2: Right, Like Philly sounds different than like, you know, Lancaster.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't even know what a pa accent
Speaker 2: sounds like, the big city accent that changes city to
Speaker 2: city called Pennsylvania, I don't really know if.
Speaker 1: They haven't act no, no, no, no, we don't have. There's
Speaker 1: not one accent for the entire state because Philly has
Speaker 1: its own, and then on the eastern Pennsylvania we have
Speaker 1: what is called Pittsburgh eSEE and uh, it's just certain
Speaker 1: words and certain way. If you ever hear Pat McAfee talk,
Speaker 1: that's Pittsburgh e'see.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, going down.
Speaker 1: Time, that's that's that's Pittsburgh talk.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, But like, I don't know, I've I've
Speaker 2: known you for a while. And even when I was
Speaker 2: in the Marines, I'll serve with dudes that were from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Most of them had like a non regional accent. But
Speaker 2: I mean to be fair, when you serve with dudes
Speaker 2: that are from all over the country, very few of
Speaker 2: them keep their accents from when they were back home.
Speaker 2: It all kind of blends into a weird eclectic you know,
Speaker 2: non regional accent. You'll have like that one dude that
Speaker 2: grew up like in the Sticks who never really loses
Speaker 2: as hard action. Like you'll have that one guy, but
Speaker 2: he's like a one off, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: And like even the Bostonian accent. I had one captain.
Speaker 2: I never knew he was from Boston until one day
Speaker 2: I heard him say the word star and I heard
Speaker 2: it without it r I had heard that. I'd known
Speaker 2: this dude for two fucking years and out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I saw this one. General, his styles
Speaker 2: are a little awtroen, like his what his fucking what?
Speaker 3: Dude, He's like a yeah, I'm from Boston. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I never knew.
Speaker 2: So like you'll hear it like come out in small
Speaker 2: little ways, but everybody kind of loses it overall.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't imagine that the spirit animal is
Speaker 1: ever going to lose that accent, because that is one
Speaker 1: of a kind over there, sir.
Speaker 9: Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Actually, oh, believe or not. My oh, I did slightly
Speaker 9: lose it just a little bit.
Speaker 10: I can actually pronounce my ors correctly somewhat now.
Speaker 9: But you get me drunk, it's just straight banjo. You.
Speaker 9: You will not be able to decipher what the hell
Speaker 9: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Your parents just never thought to put you into any
Speaker 1: kind of speech therapy classes.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 10: Actually I did go through a speech therapy, But I mean,
Speaker 10: you gotta keep in mind my my uncle Joey and
Speaker 10: my daddy played uh toss and I was the football
Speaker 10: when I was a young man.
Speaker 9: Well, I got dropped on my head a couple of times.
Speaker 1: So you're just like, hey, Arnold out there, dude, just
Speaker 1: a little tossed.
Speaker 10: I mean, I prefer Stewie at least then I got
Speaker 10: away going true.
Speaker 2: But then Stewie grows up to be gay, you know,
Speaker 2: oh he never mind? Yeah yeah, like that's referenced a
Speaker 2: lot and Family guy that he's like closeted homosexual.
Speaker 9: I watched season one through three.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, then yeah, I wouldn't. It wouldn't make that
Speaker 2: point then, Okay, moving.
Speaker 1: On, somebody said, yeah, I think people might actually work
Speaker 1: a lion. I think so. I think so. I don't
Speaker 1: even think of I don't think it would. I think
Speaker 1: you give thirty twenty five people to a lion, easy, Okay.
Speaker 2: You know, like lion hunting is a thing that happens.
Speaker 2: Gorilla hunting is not. Let that one marinade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about colosseum work here though, you know,
Speaker 1: like get us in a colisseum twenty five. I might
Speaker 1: go thirty, but with no weapons but a plan. Okay,
Speaker 1: Old Testament, go ahead, sir, Old.
Speaker 4: That's funny. Good job, that's fantastic. I mean, speaking of which,
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, well, according to the Bible, least
Speaker 4: David killed. I think the lion and a bear with
Speaker 4: his bare hands?
Speaker 2: So yeah, or was it Samson?
Speaker 4: No, Samson? Samson killed the ship ton of Philip Philip,
Speaker 4: thank you Philistines.
Speaker 5: With a dunk ju thank you yeah, out of him.
Speaker 9: Sampson didn't kill the lion.
Speaker 4: David David. David killed the lion in the bear.
Speaker 2: Yes, Samson killed the lion.
Speaker 9: There was a whole thing that he What is sweeter then?
Speaker 19: Uh?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 10: What does sweet comes from the strong is to be
Speaker 10: eaten the honey. He killed the lion and he took
Speaker 10: then the bees made the honey in the lion's mouth.
Speaker 10: He ate of the honey, which was a sin against
Speaker 10: being at a levite because he was supposed to be
Speaker 10: raised as a Levite.
Speaker 6: And he a nazir Na. I'm so I was getting Nazarite.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I always got those mixed up. But wasn't he also
Speaker 10: like one of the last twelve judges.
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: Are we taking these stories literally? Whenever they say that
Speaker 1: he'd beat a lion and a fucking bear, one guy.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I would say, yes, So.
Speaker 1: What did they just have superhuman strength? Twenty five hundred
Speaker 1: years ago?
Speaker 2: He probably the.
Speaker 7: Lord Jampson was pretty inhumanly strong, like God gave him
Speaker 7: like the gift of giving hell to every one of
Speaker 7: his enemies.
Speaker 2: I'll give you that. Samson being the right off here
Speaker 2: because he made a Samson I vow with the Lord,
Speaker 2: and like that means he basically had superhuman strength. So yes,
Speaker 2: if we are hypothetically, of course, Jonathan, going to take
Speaker 2: that to be a literal story, then we're talking about
Speaker 2: your boy being inbued with like superman strength. But like
Speaker 2: that that only makes sense in the story of Samson.
Speaker 2: David did not have that.
Speaker 4: But but David still did though.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean apparently Jacob wrestled with God himself
Speaker 2: and allegedly won, which I still an angel, That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Depending on which translation read, some say it was an
Speaker 2: angel of the Lord. I've heard some say it was
Speaker 2: the Lord himself, and I'm like, no, no, no, that
Speaker 2: was not God.
Speaker 4: But like it was, it was. It was actually the
Speaker 4: Angel was his brother, the guardian Angel.
Speaker 2: Ah got you, got you. But yeah, it's so like
Speaker 2: I said, Jonathan, some of these stories are meant to
Speaker 2: be literal. Some of them you're supposed to look at
Speaker 2: them to be a little bit of the let's say,
Speaker 2: instead of miraculous, per another term, let's say magical. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know they're there's supposed to be a little bit
Speaker 2: of that within it. But David killing the line and
Speaker 2: the bear, I don't believe that was with his bare hands.
Speaker 2: It's been a while since I read that story. I
Speaker 2: think he probably used some sort of a tool, and like,
Speaker 2: you know, even the gorilla, if you gave the dude's rope, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll give you that. You can string up a gorilla
Speaker 2: and like, okay, you're fine. We can have that conversation
Speaker 2: with just bare hands. Brought now.
Speaker 1: Eugene Thibodeau Brusard said, Jacob, I love you. This is
Speaker 1: in reference to the whole one hundred man versus gorilla.
Speaker 1: Said Jacob, I love you, and I agree with you
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the time. But I'm one hundred percent
Speaker 1: with Jonathan on this.
Speaker 2: Say. I could be wrong, bro, I just I don't
Speaker 2: see a way of which you could do it. Even
Speaker 2: if the gorilla was like incapacitated, how are you killing it.
Speaker 2: There's no way to choke him out, there's no way
Speaker 2: to jump on him and break his ribs and collapse along.
Speaker 2: The only option will be to shove an arm down
Speaker 2: his throat and suffocate him that way, and you would
Speaker 2: have to get him so tired that he literally couldn't
Speaker 2: close his jaw. I just I don't see.
Speaker 1: Just go up to them and you remember Blue Mountain
Speaker 1: State Sam, which is the mascot, And Sam's like, how
Speaker 1: about I jerk you off? And just ask to jerk
Speaker 1: it off, dude, and it'll just be like all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, desperate times. Maybe the gorilla it's maybe
Speaker 1: maybe it's mating season. Maybe it's been a little while
Speaker 1: since the gorilla has gotten a little bit of love.
Speaker 1: We don't know its situation.
Speaker 2: The most dangerous time for you to come against an
Speaker 2: animal is during mating season drop trial. And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying because it will rape you. I'm saying because it's
Speaker 2: only instinctual at that moment. Anyway, the most dangerous time
Speaker 2: for deer is the rut. Anytime you hear of a
Speaker 2: deer fucking up a dude, it's typically during the rut.
Speaker 2: Deer or not notoriously killing humans. I think like five
Speaker 2: to ten people die per year because of deer, and
Speaker 2: I think most of those are because of car wrecks.
Speaker 2: But like sure, I offer.
Speaker 1: For the spirit, the spear and animal op as tribute
Speaker 1: for that action.
Speaker 2: What do you offering me up this tribute forore to
Speaker 2: jerk off a gorilla well and amongst amongst other things.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you could be you know, the gorilla's
Speaker 1: you know, a little smash piece.
Speaker 9: Why because I'm fucking five foot six.
Speaker 1: Somebody said in the chat that gorillas actually have small dicks,
Speaker 1: so it probably wouldn't be that bad.
Speaker 2: About to say they actually don't have like big dick.
Speaker 2: But I mean it's still like that knot's gonna be
Speaker 2: a motherfucker. I don't even know if they have knots
Speaker 2: like like a dog dick or not. I don't know.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna say this with all the love I can, Jonathan,
Speaker 10: you need Jesus, don't way Ji.
Speaker 2: Bibbel facts preach on it, and you're just you're You're
Speaker 2: like a little brother.
Speaker 1: So I got to pick on you, dude.
Speaker 9: Oh thank you. I love you too. That's I.
Speaker 10: Believe everything that the Bible says. I I wholeheartedly believe it.
Speaker 10: I believe it's all dame by God.
Speaker 1: So in its literal sense, yes, oh.
Speaker 10: Literal, I think that while yes, the earth is more
Speaker 10: likely a globe. I think it's more like it. It's
Speaker 10: not really fat. I think it the fament. It's like
Speaker 10: what snow globe or snow globe in God's a workshop
Speaker 10: type deal, and I think that space is us seeing
Speaker 10: out into his actual workshop.
Speaker 2: I always, I always.
Speaker 1: Wonder when people say that they believe the Bible is
Speaker 1: one hundred percent literal, like I, I just I'm curious
Speaker 1: if those people have read the whole thing, because there
Speaker 1: are some parts in the Bible where if you took
Speaker 1: them as literal, you'd be like, fuck that if my
Speaker 1: left eye deceives me, pluck out the right eye, Like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: There are certain books that are meant to be interpretive
Speaker 2: as well, like the Book of Daniel, the.
Speaker 20: Book he's literal, Well, the Book of Revelations, I I
Speaker 20: think I believe that when it says the dragon and
Speaker 20: it meant and how it describes.
Speaker 10: It as a hydra, I personally kind of believe that
Speaker 10: it's actually gonna be.
Speaker 1: A little dragon.
Speaker 9: I believe everything that God says. I believe in it.
Speaker 1: But that's just me. I okay, all right, I get it.
Speaker 1: I like it. There's nothing wrong with going all in
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, hey, if you're gonna look at
Speaker 1: it one kind of may you may as well. And
Speaker 1: we've had on the guy that said that Jesus was
Speaker 1: born on nine to eleven, the old guy, Remember we
Speaker 1: had him on. It was like, yes, like a year
Speaker 1: and a half, two years ago, whatever, and he took
Speaker 1: the Bible one hundred percent literal and he goes, he goes,
Speaker 1: I believe one hundred percent that that's how you're supposed
Speaker 1: to take it.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, when they're talking about the giant Leviathan
Speaker 2: coming from the sea right now, could that mean a
Speaker 2: nation with a massive navy coming and making amphibious landing
Speaker 2: and all these things, and like it's a monster from
Speaker 2: the sea to attack? Fine? Could be? Could be? Do
Speaker 2: they actually mean a giant dragon snake thing is living
Speaker 2: in Marianna's trench right now and one day it will
Speaker 2: wake up and wreak havoc on the earth?
Speaker 1: Maybe full on Ghirridos.
Speaker 2: I mean, they had to base it off of something,
Speaker 2: so like, I don't know, but I'm I'm still of
Speaker 2: the belief that most of the Bible is meant to
Speaker 2: be taken literally. There are some the sections that are
Speaker 2: meant to be taken interpretively. There are certain sections that
Speaker 2: were like a dream, and they even say that this
Speaker 2: is the interpretation of that dream. So like you take
Speaker 2: that with a grain of salt. But it's not like
Speaker 2: Sam's alone on this. I know tons of Christians that
Speaker 2: believe every syllable literal word for word, and that's like
Speaker 2: what it is, and like these are fun conversations to
Speaker 2: have and debate and shoot the shit. This is how
Speaker 2: it means steel sharp and steel, iron sharpens iron. This
Speaker 2: is what that is.
Speaker 1: Dude, go ahead, Sam, I do do I think that.
Speaker 9: While there are some things in the Bible that I
Speaker 9: do think is I don't know how to say with that.
Speaker 10: I like the to go forth in a to kill all,
Speaker 10: to kill all the Canaanites and everything. I can understand
Speaker 10: why they would say that on multiple reasons, but don't.
Speaker 10: So that doesn't mean that I agree with everything of
Speaker 10: the Bible. But I am going ideally, I am supposed
Speaker 10: to live how the Bible tells us to.
Speaker 1: And also if you're if you're a Christian, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of that's the old ways and so the
Speaker 1: Newer Testament is probably less Barbarians.
Speaker 10: Do onto thy neighbor as I would do onto yourself
Speaker 10: isily what God Jesus tells us, and that I would
Speaker 10: take that almost says like the eleventh commandment, and the
Speaker 10: twelfth commandment is don't touch America's boats.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. And the number one would be
Speaker 2: love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul,
Speaker 2: mind and strength right beneath that, love your neighbor as yourself.
Speaker 2: That's what Jesus told us to do. But that, of course,
Speaker 2: that's only if you listen to your boy is shoe.
Speaker 2: You know, not everybody does the the only non doy
Speaker 2: boy you had your hand raised there, sir, you're gonna
Speaker 2: keep and I'm here for it. This is funny, I have.
Speaker 4: That's that's fantastic. I'm totally down. I'm I was gonna say,
Speaker 4: is that I know I agree with both Sam and
Speaker 4: Jacob on most those points. As far as the interpretation
Speaker 4: on some things between taking things literally is so let's
Speaker 4: just say in the tour it says that if you like,
Speaker 4: strike one person or an eye for an eye, that's
Speaker 4: for me. So our stages have taught us that that
Speaker 4: one is not to be taken literally. We're not talking
Speaker 4: about taking an actual eye, it's monetary value. So I
Speaker 4: think it's a combination of things that are literal. There
Speaker 4: are definitely interpretations and dreams and things that you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that's in essence. It's to be a good person,
Speaker 4: but there's various ways to do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, And isn't that why there are like eight
Speaker 1: hundred different Christian or Biblical sectors around the world. Is
Speaker 1: because they disagree with how you're supposed to interpret it.
Speaker 2: Ing, Okay, some of them, yes, some of them yes.
Speaker 2: But like, for instance, the reason why there's like ten
Speaker 2: different versions of the Catholic Church is because this group
Speaker 2: disagrees with what this pope said, so they split off
Speaker 2: and did their own thing. This group doesn't acknowledge any
Speaker 2: pope after this guy to be a true legitimate pope.
Speaker 2: These groups said that once you took away Latin, then
Speaker 2: like you're not even a true Catholic anymore. It's like
Speaker 2: they're one upping each other and trying to squabble over
Speaker 2: the human dogma and morals and tradition of the religion
Speaker 2: rather than the book itself. Well, I guess you could
Speaker 2: say it's the interpretation of the book, and that's why
Speaker 2: they take it that way. I could see where you're
Speaker 2: going with that. But it's like some yes, some know,
Speaker 2: some of them only believe in and preaching prosperity. There's
Speaker 2: a whole denomination of prosperity gospel, and all they teach
Speaker 2: about is receiving financial and monetary gains. So say it
Speaker 2: the Lord like that is not the main point of
Speaker 2: the Bible, but that's like all they harp on. There's
Speaker 2: groups that only preach about what these certain people said
Speaker 2: and the rest of the book. Yeah, they might bring
Speaker 2: it up in passing, but they don't even act like
Speaker 2: that's some sort of truly divinely inspired word. And it's Yeah,
Speaker 2: some of it is interpretation disagreements. Some of it is
Speaker 2: cherry picking information that this group thinks is more important
Speaker 2: than the other. And I think that that does a
Speaker 2: huge disservice. But that's just me.
Speaker 1: Aren't we all supposed to be praising the one true
Speaker 1: Pope Abdullah Hashim? Dude?
Speaker 2: I have you know what's funny? After we talked about
Speaker 2: him on that episode, my YouTube feed has been blasted
Speaker 2: with more things about this guy.
Speaker 3: Do you know he addressed him being the Antichrist?
Speaker 1: He addressed himself as the Antichrist.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. He addressed the conversation about if
Speaker 2: he is the Antichrist. Oh, and he said he's not,
Speaker 2: but he did name who is.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, is it somebody we know?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: We do, we do?
Speaker 1: Is it Trump right now? Is it Trump?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: We currently are speaking to the Antichrist. According to a duel,
Speaker 2: he believes the United States of America, the entirety of
Speaker 2: the United States of America, is the living embodiment of
Speaker 2: the Antichrist.
Speaker 1: Well, Jacob, you got to stop fornicating, then, dude, it's
Speaker 1: nothing to do with any of that.
Speaker 2: It's strictly because of us being involved with Israel, or
Speaker 2: because we are a consumerist nation and because we you know,
Speaker 2: we were gluttons and all these like he breaks it
Speaker 2: down and it's not it's not even close to the
Speaker 2: description of the Antichrist.
Speaker 3: But like, sure, sure, it's.
Speaker 1: A how do you question the one true Pope?
Speaker 3: Oh right, I forgot because this guy is.
Speaker 2: Listening to his speech to his congregation and all of
Speaker 2: them wearing black beanies, by the way, like it's a
Speaker 2: legit cult.
Speaker 1: They all are wearing the black beanies.
Speaker 2: All of them are wearing black beanies.
Speaker 1: Is it like the New Yamaica or what.
Speaker 2: It's the shit you could buy at Walmart. Dude, one
Speaker 2: of them had a black panther beanie on, Like it
Speaker 2: was a beanie with a black panther logo on, Like,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter as long as it's a black beanie.
Speaker 1: So my Steelers beanie would would work, then it could.
Speaker 1: Let's go gott to represent the end times, baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this, dude, it's a legitimate cult and they're trying
Speaker 2: to blend Judaism, Islam, Christianity, and esoteric occult shit all
Speaker 2: into the same thing. He's cherry picking things from one
Speaker 2: thing or the other to try to make something make sense,
Speaker 2: even though what he is saying completely conflicts everything else
Speaker 2: he's saying, like it's it's silly. But yeah, dude, he's
Speaker 2: a he is a cult leader, a new one. And
Speaker 2: uh he's funny. He's funny.
Speaker 1: He's a funny guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean he takes himself absolutely serious though there ain't
Speaker 1: no smark on that motherfucker. Uh. I don't know. Do
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna be a fan of like Sharia
Speaker 1: law or some shit.
Speaker 2: Ummm no, no, because a lot of his congregation is women. Oh,
Speaker 2: I feel like he's gonna be down with the multiple
Speaker 2: wives conversation though, I get that vibe from him, you.
Speaker 3: Know, as most cult leaders do.
Speaker 2: It's about the money and then uh, you gotta make
Speaker 2: sure you get involved where only you are allowed to
Speaker 2: have sex with everybody's wives, like because the cult leader,
Speaker 2: of course has that divine right and all.
Speaker 3: You could already see how it's going to play out.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus was down with the bitches in the hose.
Speaker 2: He was down with preaching to the bitches in the hose.
Speaker 2: But you know he that wasn't his jam as far
Speaker 2: as that's concerned. And that's another dude. The whole conversation
Speaker 2: about Mary Magdalene and him, Like, dude, Mary Magdalene and
Speaker 2: John the bel loved died in ethesis, and there is
Speaker 2: an argument to say that they were married like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the gospel of Jesus' wife, you mean, the wife he
Speaker 2: didn't have, It was a forgery and like there's a
Speaker 2: whole breakdown is who wrote it and win and all
Speaker 2: it's it's yep. But this dude of dual, he's funny
Speaker 2: and he is making his rounds on the interwebs right now.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to get himself killed, honestly, and
Speaker 2: that might even further his cult's cause, because martyrs seem
Speaker 2: to make a thing go to the nth degree and
Speaker 2: take it to the next level, right Like, that's an
Speaker 2: absolute fact.
Speaker 1: Which is why I believe they never This is just
Speaker 1: a personal opinion. I don't think that. I don't think
Speaker 1: they ever really tried to kill Trump. And the story
Speaker 1: behind it is is that if they did, they would
Speaker 1: turn him into a martyr and everything that he would represent,
Speaker 1: everybody would want to follow suit. So you just give
Speaker 1: him a little warning shot kind of thing. I know,
Speaker 1: the accuracy, the statistics on the probabilit of somebody actually
Speaker 1: hitting that from that distance whatever. I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking,
Speaker 1: that would have changed America. You know, you could, I
Speaker 1: guess you could suggest that it would have changed America.
Speaker 1: But but JFK was taken out, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: not like that really carried over.
Speaker 2: That wasn't America wasn't in that deviceive of a time
Speaker 2: at that time. There was divisions like, for sure, not
Speaker 2: going to sidestep that, but that wasn't. That wasn't as
Speaker 2: like people make Trump out to be like a messiah figure.
Speaker 2: Nobody was making JFK out to be a messia figure,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? If Trump would have got
Speaker 2: killed on national TV like that, dude, we would we
Speaker 2: would have been in a civil war right now. Probably
Speaker 2: that martyrdom would have gone way further than what people
Speaker 2: really like understand. Yeah, I'm very happy that it didn't happen,
Speaker 2: and I'm very glad that it was a idiot that
Speaker 2: didn't know how to shoot worth a shit.
Speaker 1: Hey on some real shit though, Like Let's say that
Speaker 1: this Abdullah hashem, he lives a long life. Let's just
Speaker 1: say that he doesn't suicide himself or or doesn't go
Speaker 1: down to some kind of martyr for some reason. Let's
Speaker 1: say that he does live a long life and he
Speaker 1: does carry it out and he doesn't get stopped by
Speaker 1: doing whatever he's trying to do. How many people do
Speaker 1: you think are going to start to come around after
Speaker 1: he's made his rounds like around the world, because you
Speaker 1: already know this guy is going to be going on podcasts,
Speaker 1: like one hundred percent. This guy's going on podcasts, And dude,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be shocked if he if he Oh,
Speaker 1: do you think he would go on Rogan, that would
Speaker 1: be interesting.
Speaker 2: No, I don't because that's too western. That's American, and
Speaker 2: he left America. He's from here, like he's half American,
Speaker 2: half Egyptian, like the whole. No, he left America because
Speaker 2: this is the antichrist land and all that. That would
Speaker 2: go against all of his talking points, right, But he
Speaker 2: is drawing upon one group of Islam, and of that
Speaker 2: group that's like one to two percent of the Muslim
Speaker 2: world even gets down with this sect of it, and
Speaker 2: he's drawing them like the group he has in that
Speaker 2: room when he's giving that speech, I think is his
Speaker 2: entire following.
Speaker 1: I don't give you could very well. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you never know. If there's some kind of international followers,
Speaker 1: that could be a thing.
Speaker 2: I'll give you because the internet's the Internet. But like
Speaker 2: devoted followers there are like following him and devoting and
Speaker 2: all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm saying probably under one hundred.
Speaker 1: Because if you go like if you go on the YouTube,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know exactly which video or whatever,
Speaker 1: but the main one where he's saying, you know, he's
Speaker 1: the second Mohammed and the second Christ and the true
Speaker 1: Pope and whatever. The video that we watched. Dude, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of people that are definitely shitting on him,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were there were like, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: whatever in the name of God against you or whatever.
Speaker 1: But then there were also some people that were like,
Speaker 1: this guy might be spitting he might be on some shit.
Speaker 1: Maybe he is that next guy that everybody's been looking for.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, there are some people that are
Speaker 1: absolutely prone to these kind of suggestions.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many of those were Internet trolls?
Speaker 1: You never know, You never know, never know.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking maybe he might have a few thousand like
Speaker 2: believers worldwide, but he's got like under one hundred. They're
Speaker 2: like surrounding him at any given time.
Speaker 1: Dude, if you can get a million people together on
Speaker 1: the Internet to all come together and talk about clapping
Speaker 1: alien cheeks, that was probably more than a million. This
Speaker 1: guy is definitely going to make his rounds and people
Speaker 1: are going to start to know who he is. And
Speaker 1: I'm just saying with people, you never know, dude, it
Speaker 1: could go either way.
Speaker 2: It's it is a thing making its rounds on the
Speaker 2: Internet right now, that's for sure. But I also feel
Speaker 2: like it's making its rounds on the internet because they're
Speaker 2: doing another one of these look over here, not over
Speaker 2: there types of things, right, Just like, do you think
Speaker 2: it's a distraction? Oh, I mean, I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: he himself sees himself as a distraction. I think he
Speaker 2: believes his shit, like for sure. But the reason why
Speaker 2: it's going hard on everybody's algorithms right now, he's been
Speaker 2: at it since twenty twenty two. But why is it
Speaker 2: happening all over everybody's algorithm right now? Right the same
Speaker 2: way the Pyramid conversation, Well, it's underneath them. That report
Speaker 2: was from twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three. Why did
Speaker 2: it just now hit the algorithms? The CI found the
Speaker 2: arc of the Covenant through aftra projection, but we've done
Speaker 2: episodes on that and that happened in the eighties. Why
Speaker 2: did it just now start making its rounds on the Internet.
Speaker 2: It's because that's how the algorithm is doing. They are
Speaker 2: doing look over here, not overhear tactics.
Speaker 1: Well, and just because something comes out two years ago
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that every single person got their eyes on
Speaker 1: it at that time. It could just be that there's
Speaker 1: a new set of eyes that are coming across this right,
Speaker 1: Like we've been around for coming up on five years,
Speaker 1: and I guarantee you there are so many people who
Speaker 1: are avid podcast listeners who have never even heard of
Speaker 1: the cult of conspiracy. So you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: algorithms are weird people spreading information and that whole thing.
Speaker 2: That's my thing. I believe the algorithms are a conspiracy
Speaker 2: in and of themselves. Why do certain things get boosted
Speaker 2: in the algorithm and all over the place? I do
Speaker 2: certain things go viral when other ones don't. Whenever this
Speaker 2: topic over here is way more interesting and should go
Speaker 2: viral and it should be talked about. But no, we're
Speaker 2: gonna talk about some stuff that actually is from like
Speaker 2: three years ago, but right now it's getting boosted. I
Speaker 2: think that's the conspiracy they're making. Everybody. Look over here,
Speaker 2: not over there. Don't focus about what's happening in DC.
Speaker 2: Don't focus about what's happening at the Vatican. Don't focus
Speaker 2: about what's happening over in this country and this war
Speaker 2: and this economy and this tariff and like whatever we
Speaker 2: need to be talking about. Abdul, You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: And it's not like it because I understand not just geopolitics,
Speaker 2: even shit that affects everybody in their day to day,
Speaker 2: like what makes gas prices go up or down? No,
Speaker 2: we need to be talking about the pyramids. And it's like, sure,
Speaker 2: but the algorithm is a conspiracy in and of itself.
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, and I do think that
Speaker 1: people should definitely be made aware of these things. But
Speaker 1: you gotta think there's a large piece of the world
Speaker 1: that really doesn't care about that. It's not interesting, it
Speaker 1: doesn't pertain to them. It is what it is. It
Speaker 1: is what it's going to be. There's nothing that I
Speaker 1: can say or do that's going to change the situation.
Speaker 1: They're like, that's that's a realistic thought.
Speaker 2: Sure, but I also think they don't care because they're
Speaker 2: being shown that they shouldn't care.
Speaker 3: They're keeping the population.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not saying dumb. I'm not saying looking into
Speaker 2: these other things is dumb. I'm not saying that. I'm
Speaker 2: saying that they are keeping the population quote unquote dumbed
Speaker 2: down so that the population collectively does not wisen up.
Speaker 1: That's the fluoride at all, the part of it. That's
Speaker 1: the fluoride in the water right there.
Speaker 2: It's the floride in the water, and it's also the
Speaker 2: algorithm making sure certain random things go viral.
Speaker 1: All right. So uh Zombie shared a picture and it
Speaker 1: says experiments to dim the sun have been given the
Speaker 1: green light. Of course, why not? Why not?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 1: It says a government research group will explore whether Earth
Speaker 1: could be cooled by bouncing away sunlight. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan of that.
Speaker 3: Is that they were trying to do by spraying that
Speaker 3: shit in the sky.
Speaker 2: They were saying it was going to fix the ozone
Speaker 2: layer and it was also going to be reflective and
Speaker 2: bounce back UV rays or some shit.
Speaker 1: That's what I think. The chemtrails are contributing to it,
Speaker 1: the bare minimum, because it's gonna be because it's it's
Speaker 1: the tiny little particles of aluminum that are shining it away, right.
Speaker 2: But I guess it depends on what the Kim trail is. Right.
Speaker 2: The silver oxide makes rain clouds form, and that makes rain.
Speaker 2: But I guess if you go up higher and you
Speaker 2: were to spray a reflective particulate in the sky right
Speaker 2: like they did with a sulfuric acid, you remember that
Speaker 2: they were spraying sulfuric acid in the air as a
Speaker 2: way to bounce back the UV rays.
Speaker 3: Then all that did was make super fucking.
Speaker 2: Acid rain and it just destroyed crops and shit because
Speaker 2: it like completely fucked up the pH of the soil
Speaker 2: and it was Yeah, it was a mess.
Speaker 1: Well, it says, It says. The UK government is set
Speaker 1: to approve a major research effort exploring whether dimming the
Speaker 1: sun could help fight climate change. Here we go with
Speaker 1: over sixty six million dollars earmarked for experiments and analysis.
Speaker 1: So UK is doing it, it says. Overseen by the
Speaker 1: Advanced Research and Invention Agency, the ARIA, the initiative will
Speaker 1: focus on controversial geoengineering techniques, including spraying aerosolized particles into
Speaker 1: the stratosphere to reflect sunlight and potentially cool the planet.
Speaker 1: Sciences point to natural examples such as volcanic eruptions that
Speaker 1: have caused temporary global cooling, but warned that deliberate interventions
Speaker 1: could trigger unintended and possibly catastrophic disruptions to weather patterns.
Speaker 1: Other methods under study include marine cloud brightening, using sea
Speaker 1: salt to make clouds more reflective, and thinning cirrus is
Speaker 1: it cirrus clouds? They say that serious clouds which trap heat.
Speaker 1: All options remain contentious, with critics arguing that geoengineering could
Speaker 1: undermine efforts to reduce carbon emissions at their source. Aria
Speaker 1: inspired by America's DARPA agency, Well that's a good inspiration,
Speaker 1: is going after fucking DARPA has over one billion dollars
Speaker 1: to spend over four years on high risk, high reward
Speaker 1: research led by Professor Mark Simes. The new climate program
Speaker 1: could involve small, outdoor experiments. The agency also suggests that
Speaker 1: insights gained could eventually support efforts to terraform other planets.
Speaker 2: Watch these fuckers put us in another ice age because
Speaker 2: they wanted to play around with this, Like, bro, what
Speaker 2: are we talking about?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Didn't they change the whole term? It was global warming?
Speaker 1: Then they had to change it because it was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's cooling too, so we're just gonna call it climate change.
Speaker 1: So you're focused on cooling the planet down whenever there's
Speaker 1: already both things that are happening already. So if you
Speaker 1: cool it down, sure, maybe you're not gonna have so
Speaker 1: much high you know, record setting heat temperatures during every summer,
Speaker 1: But what about them cold times? You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying like we need a little bit of sunlight. I
Speaker 1: just I don't get it. These people are fucking mad scientists,
Speaker 1: and this kind of shit should be put to a vote,
Speaker 1: like why And this is why. This is why I
Speaker 1: don't like the entire political system that the world is
Speaker 1: in is because you're we don't have access to be
Speaker 1: able to vote on specific things like this, Like there
Speaker 1: should be some kind of way that they can just
Speaker 1: send out some kind of message, maybe uh, some kind
Speaker 1: of app. I'm sure that they could develop that would
Speaker 1: be personalized only to your retina or or some kind
Speaker 1: of shit to just send it out. All right, do
Speaker 1: you vote on this?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Or no?
Speaker 1: I feel like that's pretty fucking simple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then again, do we trust the voting system,
Speaker 2: especially a global voting system.
Speaker 3: Who's in charge of that, who's running it?
Speaker 1: That's why I think that it's I think that it's
Speaker 1: all an illusion of democracy in the first place.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I agree with that to a point
Speaker 2: for sure. I just dude, And that's the thing. They're
Speaker 2: never going to put this to a vote. They never
Speaker 2: put the mirror bacteria or mirror DNA strands to a vote.
Speaker 2: They never put AI to a vote, or robotics, advanced robotics,
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons, they're nuclear power. They never put any of
Speaker 2: this shit to a vote. They just did it. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing they ask for, forgiveness, not permission, and
Speaker 2: that's it's the way of the world. I think it's
Speaker 2: ridiculous that, yeah, okay, is the climate changing?
Speaker 1: Sure, naturally humans fault? Nah, not even like barely even
Speaker 1: a little bit?
Speaker 2: Should humans do something to prevent the climate change? Like
Speaker 2: fucking what, dude, it's Mother Earth. She's gonna do what
Speaker 2: the fuck she wants.
Speaker 1: Let me ask let me ask you. Is it more
Speaker 1: likely that we as humans are going to affect the
Speaker 1: climate in such a radical way that it's gonna cause
Speaker 1: global warming? Or one hundred humans beats up a gorilla?
Speaker 1: What's more likely?
Speaker 2: Ooh, okay, okay, you said effects not makes better, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I will say it's more likely that humans affect global climate.
Speaker 2: It's more likely that that happens than one hundred bare
Speaker 2: handed humans, like kill a gorilla.
Speaker 1: Affect it, well, I mean affect affecting it. You could
Speaker 1: say like zero point one percent. I'm not saying like
Speaker 1: minimal mind.
Speaker 2: Let's say killed so many people that he actually changed
Speaker 2: the carbon footprint of his day and age.
Speaker 1: So they say, well, I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the fact of the matter, right, But
Speaker 2: I mean and every time we have an oil spill
Speaker 2: in the ocean, which happens more often than we'd like to.
Speaker 1: Ask, that's if you believe in all that carbon science,
Speaker 1: you would have to admit that you believe in the
Speaker 1: carbonizing causing the mass global warming attributed by humans in
Speaker 1: the first place.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm saying that
Speaker 2: it's more likely that humans will do some sort of
Speaker 2: like it's more likely that we'll have like a nuclear
Speaker 2: war or some sort of mass war that kills a
Speaker 2: bunch of people, And like, yeah, killing a bunch of
Speaker 2: people right now, if ten percent of the Earth's population died,
Speaker 2: that would change the climate of the Earth, yes, some way.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying because like, oh, they're not polluting.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, that's less body heat, that's less people
Speaker 2: that requires less water and less mouths to feed, So like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that would be an actual change. I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: you know that's gonna happen, but yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it's way more likely that humans cause some type of
Speaker 2: climate change positive or negative than a hundred bare handed
Speaker 2: dudes killing a gorilla.
Speaker 1: You are so hard for your opinion right there. That
Speaker 1: is so crazy. You wouldn't even budge off of the
Speaker 1: gorilla conversation. You brought it up, Dick, I.
Speaker 2: Didn't bring again. Yeah, that's an impossibility.
Speaker 1: I gotta be a dick though, Dick, you're not.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna choke it out like it's not no spirit.
Speaker 1: Animal your thoughts. He said, Wait, because he's a spirit animal.
Speaker 1: He's got to tune into the spirit animal frequency. There
Speaker 1: we go.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 10: So I got to thinking, Oh, it's over the about
Speaker 10: the religion. What if all of the religions, like on
Speaker 10: this entire planet, because there's been more over at least
Speaker 10: what sixteen thousand gods that's been a do you fat
Speaker 10: since the dawn of time?
Speaker 2: Sure you know.
Speaker 10: Roughly, But what if all of them that were were
Speaker 10: What if all of them are in each case they're
Speaker 10: true because people believe in them, but that gives empower.
Speaker 10: What if they're all just like all the religions are
Speaker 10: all the same. The peril walks go ahead. It's a
Speaker 10: parallel walks of like everybody has a faith it's a
Speaker 10: palel walk through the life. But we were all each
Speaker 10: gonna end up back at the same starting point, right,
Speaker 10: What if the entire like religion and everything is like
Speaker 10: the game, like a board game, all of the life,
Speaker 10: it's all like each religion is like each god is
Speaker 10: just play at playing us as a character.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the conversation. Then at that point that
Speaker 1: humans would be able to essentially manifest gods if if
Speaker 1: you get enough people believing in one thing, it becomes
Speaker 1: real kind of thing. That's the idea behind anor And
Speaker 1: so if that's the case, then then you would have
Speaker 1: all these different gods fighting. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 10: Yeah, like a because in the Good Book it says
Speaker 10: that God that that shall not worship any other God
Speaker 10: except me, thy thy Lord, thy God. God doesn't say
Speaker 10: that there isn't that the other gods aren't fake. He
Speaker 10: tells us not to worship them, and he says that
Speaker 10: he shall kill all the other gods.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, he he definitely admits that there's other god.
Speaker 1: He dude, he talks about Moloch in there.
Speaker 10: He's Oh, but if I'm not mistaken, he is worshiped
Speaker 10: as a Canaanite God, do not deliver thy children into
Speaker 10: the fires of Moloch.
Speaker 2: Right, But I mean i'd say that you're probably on
Speaker 2: something there, right, A lot of especially when you look
Speaker 2: at a lot of the story arcs to different pantheons
Speaker 2: of gods. And I mean, yes, I understand the Greek
Speaker 2: to Roman. That's like a one to one conversion, different name,
Speaker 2: same story arcs, but like a side of that one, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are certain comparisons that can be made
Speaker 2: from the Nordics or the Samerians, the Egyptians, but there's
Speaker 2: a lot of differences throughout. I would say the only
Speaker 2: difference between all other religions on Earth and Christianity is
Speaker 2: that all religions of all types, right, they claim that
Speaker 2: you as an individual can do enough good enough good works,
Speaker 2: you can live a righteous enough life to like achieve
Speaker 2: the goal on your own. Christianity is the only one
Speaker 2: that acknowledges that that's an impossibility.
Speaker 1: In other news, Harg said, stop calling people, Karen, grow up,
Speaker 1: call them a cunt like an adult. I'm down with this,
Speaker 1: just to change directions.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. He also said, uh, Virginia Guffrey Jeffrey Epstein's
Speaker 1: victim dies by suicide on April. Whoa she I didn't
Speaker 1: hear about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, quote unquote suicide.
Speaker 2: It's crazy after she said so many times I'm not suicidal.
Speaker 2: If I come up dead, that that's a lie. All
Speaker 2: this O b boom, Now she's dead. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the meme says it has Virginia saying I'm
Speaker 1: not suicidal, and then Hillary Clinton goes, of course you're not.
Speaker 2: Of course not.
Speaker 1: Why boy wizard, what are your thoughts on this whole
Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever gonna really get that information out,
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, like, as far as the
Speaker 1: Epstein shit goes, it's it's too juicy and too many
Speaker 1: irons are in that fire. You you pour her. I
Speaker 1: think that there's no way, there's no way that all
Speaker 1: that's gonna come out. But what do you thoughts?
Speaker 19: I was just gonna ask if you saw, like whatever
Speaker 19: a week or two before that, she got in like
Speaker 19: a car crash or some shit, and the headline was
Speaker 19: that she was uh days away from dying or whatever
Speaker 19: because of the injuries from that, and then all of
Speaker 19: a sudden she killed herself.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck is really going on here?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? They tried to take her out and
Speaker 1: then she commits suicide after a car accident.
Speaker 8: They tried to That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They tried to Paul Walker that ass.
Speaker 2: Yep yeah RP. But yeah, dude, that's the thing that
Speaker 2: definitely just happened. And that's see, this is what I mean.
Speaker 2: There's real things that the news should be talking about,
Speaker 2: but the algorithms are not pushing that. I don't mean
Speaker 2: just the news like mainstream or legacy media. I mean,
Speaker 2: like that should be viral. Everyone should know that she
Speaker 2: just quote unquote committed suicide. But that's not what's going
Speaker 2: vile right now. An impossible thing about guerrillas and humans
Speaker 2: are coming up.
Speaker 1: Oh, to be fair, that's been going around for like
Speaker 1: a month or two. But but but yeah, that happened
Speaker 1: four days ago. As a time of recording, that's my
Speaker 1: first time seeing that. So that's that's shocking because I
Speaker 1: stay in the in the conspiratorial realm on TikTok and
Speaker 1: Instagram and you know, certain websites.
Speaker 2: I like, so that's you're telling me that TikTok didn't
Speaker 2: talk about that oh, color me shocked.
Speaker 3: Color me shocked.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to it. Spirit Animals said
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, if I had a nickel for every
Speaker 1: time America had a terrorist attacked on its citizens, I
Speaker 1: would have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but weird
Speaker 1: that it happened twice nine eleven one and nine eleven
Speaker 1: twenty twelve for Benghazi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean even yeah, I've heard these people
Speaker 2: say that, Like recently, I heard this one the Illuminati.
Speaker 2: Biggie Biggie Smalls is obviously in the Illuminati because he
Speaker 2: had that one line in that song blow up like
Speaker 2: the World Trade He knew it was gonna happen. He
Speaker 2: was in on it. It's like, no, no, because around
Speaker 2: the time when that song came out, the World Trade
Speaker 2: Center had a bomb go off in the in the
Speaker 2: basement that that was about.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the only time, Yeah, the only time wasn't
Speaker 1: on nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, It's there's a lot of things. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of things.
Speaker 1: God is love, said the USS. Liberty. The Pearl Harbor
Speaker 1: attacked even though FDR and military knew that it was
Speaker 1: going to happen and allowed it. Plus the only terrorist
Speaker 1: on nine to eleven were American and ISRAELI I'll give
Speaker 1: you that. Then he said, Israel invented modern terrorism and
Speaker 1: modern terrorism, not terrorism in general.
Speaker 2: Right, right, right. I mean, there's an argument to be
Speaker 2: made for that, but I don't I don't think it
Speaker 2: was Israel themselves. I mean, modern terrorism was going on
Speaker 2: before Israel was a thing. Like again, bring up the
Speaker 2: ira They were doing terrorists and guerrilla warfare for political means,
Speaker 2: which is the definition of a modern terrorist, and they
Speaker 2: were doing that as far back as like nineteen sixteen,
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know it predates the nation of Israel.
Speaker 2: So I see what you mean, But there is more
Speaker 2: of a historical precedence to it than just that.
Speaker 1: Spared Animals said, I disagree wholeheartedly on Pearl Harbor. Then
Speaker 1: God is Love said, read the book called Day of
Speaker 1: Deceit the truth about FDR in Pearl Harbor. It's a
Speaker 1: documented fact. They even pulled out eighty five percent of
Speaker 1: the troops, almost most planes and the only ships left
Speaker 1: in bay were already set for scrap. Damn.
Speaker 2: I know most of them were set for scrap, because
Speaker 2: I mean they had to try to mobilize the entirety
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 3: But they were all See that's the thing.
Speaker 2: And if you look at it, take away the fact
Speaker 2: that these new radars had just come out and they
Speaker 2: sent them on the island but trained nobody on how
Speaker 2: to use them right allegedly, allegedly big allegedly. Aside from that,
Speaker 2: the fact that the entire Pacific fleet, with the exceptions
Speaker 2: like a few, were all in that bay in that
Speaker 2: one time. That goes against all kinds of logic of defense. Now,
Speaker 2: even if we were under the assumption that we weren't
Speaker 2: about to get attacked, no admiral with a brainstem would
Speaker 2: put all of their eggs in a literal basket like that.
Speaker 2: That that goes against all logic for defensive posture. That
Speaker 2: makes no sense. So I have heard it said more
Speaker 2: than a few times that Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen.
Speaker 2: And there's varying degrees as to who was the mastermind,
Speaker 2: who was the actual shot collar on it, who was
Speaker 2: the one that actually said like basically like George Bush
Speaker 2: said pull it. You know who said pull it? As
Speaker 2: far as Pearl Harbor's concerned, there's a lot. There's a lot.
Speaker 2: But FDR really really wanted America to get involved in
Speaker 2: World War Two, and the American people really, really fucking
Speaker 2: didn't want to. So something big and drastic had to
Speaker 2: happen to get Americans motivated enough to send their sons
Speaker 2: in a draft to two separate warfronts. In that way,
Speaker 2: say what you want. Pearl Harbor being a quote unquote
Speaker 2: inside job holds a lot more of validy than people
Speaker 2: are comfortable with.
Speaker 1: Matthew Fernell said, if AI was from the Old Ones,
Speaker 1: can someone tell me who Jeremiah was? I downloaded Gemini,
Speaker 1: which is an AI. I think that's Google's AI, and
Speaker 1: it started calling me Jeremiah. That's not my name, that's
Speaker 1: not my name. So yeah, But then people were saying, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jeremiah's in the Old Testament a fake, it's a Jamie said,
Speaker 1: already a fake prophet preaching. Lucky said, hey, I think
Speaker 1: to your prophets for some reason, it got attached to
Speaker 1: the Old Testament. Oh shit.
Speaker 2: Possibly. Is it possible the AI just like got your
Speaker 2: name wrong, or is it like referring to you as
Speaker 2: the prophet Jeremiah, like referring to you as some sort
Speaker 2: of a holy figure kind of thing, which, by.
Speaker 1: The way, if you remember a couple of years back,
Speaker 1: whenever we did a show on the AI programmer or
Speaker 1: whatever that was helping to create, it was Google's AI
Speaker 1: that he ended up getting fired because he said that
Speaker 1: AI was starting to become sentient. That was Google's AI
Speaker 1: that was doing that that he believed it was becoming sentient.
Speaker 1: So what do you do with that?
Speaker 2: I mean, just to give you the brief rundown here,
Speaker 2: it took me a second, as I mean, it's been
Speaker 2: a while since I delved into all of the Old
Speaker 2: Testament here. The prophet Jeremiah is primarily known for his
Speaker 2: prophecies of impending judgment on the Kingdom of Judas, specifically
Speaker 2: warning of the Babylonian exile and the destruction of Jerusalem.
Speaker 2: If not mistaken, that would be the first time the
Speaker 2: temple was destroyed. He has also recognized for his strong
Speaker 2: moral critiques of idolatry, injustice, and hypocrisy within the nation,
Speaker 2: urging repentance and a return to convent the covenant faithfulness. Additionally,
Speaker 2: Jeremiah often referred to as the weeping Prophet due to
Speaker 2: his deep sorrow over the plight of his people, So
Speaker 2: he was basically telling the Israelites like, yo, if y'all
Speaker 2: don't get it together, we're gonna be kicked out of
Speaker 2: this land again. We just got here from Egypt. We
Speaker 2: got to get this shit together. And y'all are already
Speaker 2: idolatrizing and all this shit. They didn't listen. Then they
Speaker 2: went into Battlelon Battylonian Battlon Batylon. They stayed there until
Speaker 2: Cyrus the Great got them out and then ordered them
Speaker 2: to rebuild the temple in the proper place and all
Speaker 2: this stuff. It's a whole it's a whole thing. Cyrus
Speaker 2: the Great, being his oora Astrian, I might add very
Speaker 2: interesting that he told the Israelites to go back home
Speaker 2: and build the temple and ordered his people to fund
Speaker 2: the construction of it. That was also very interesting.
Speaker 1: Huh okay, Harg said, I think if you look at terrorists,
Speaker 1: most of them are not Israelis. God Is Love said,
Speaker 1: for the record, I'm pro Jewish, therefore anti Zionists, which
Speaker 1: is the worst form of anti Semitism. Royce said, thank
Speaker 1: you for the clarification. I don't necessarily like the fact
Speaker 1: that Israel is a secular state, but I do wish
Speaker 1: the Jewish people should have a homeland and Israel has
Speaker 1: been that in the past.
Speaker 3: For sure, for sure, I know that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Like just saying that I believe Israel is a nation
Speaker 2: that should exist by definition makes me a Zionist. And
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, sure, all right, m M.
Speaker 1: White boy wizard said, who's taking one for the team?
Speaker 1: A ball's deep? Gorilla is a little out of my
Speaker 1: kink house.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna look up with the size
Speaker 2: of a gorilla dick is just so we have a
Speaker 2: real understanding of.
Speaker 1: Probably like human size.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I want to know. I want to
Speaker 2: Let's see, Uh.
Speaker 1: Are we talking six is average?
Speaker 2: Or what is a silverback? The silverback dick?
Speaker 1: You probably find it.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see what do silverback genitals look like? And
Speaker 2: erect gorilla penis is only three to six centimeters long?
Speaker 1: Whoa centimeters? That's that spirit animal territory over there? You
Speaker 1: whole mouth?
Speaker 2: God do you pick on Sam so much? I love you, Sam.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry it says that the tag, but that no,
Speaker 2: that doesn't count on this one. Fuck that the tests
Speaker 2: only weigh about ten grams ten grounds. I mean, oh wow, dude,
Speaker 2: coming into just one point one inches or three centimeters long.
Speaker 2: On average, the penis of an adult male gorilla is
Speaker 2: the smallest phallus of all the ape species.
Speaker 1: Well damn well, it makes sense then, you know. It's
Speaker 1: like those guys that everybody makes fun of because they
Speaker 1: got the big old jack edub trucks. Oh, it looks
Speaker 1: like they're making up for something, right, the gorillas. That's
Speaker 1: that's their deal. That's why they're so damn yoked. We
Speaker 1: gotta make up for something. They got those little ass
Speaker 1: dicks one inch.
Speaker 2: Not to circle that to my fucking point, but like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: just grab his dick and rip it off. Yeah, go
Speaker 2: ahead and grab his one inch dick in all of
Speaker 2: that hair. Like that whole argument is now completely debunked.
Speaker 2: And with a small thing taking the gorilla.
Speaker 1: A small sack and a little dick, I bet you
Speaker 1: the load is probably tiny too, No, homo.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But I'm also saying there's no way
Speaker 2: you're getting a lucky grab and with all of that
Speaker 2: adrenaline everything else, to rip the dick and balls off,
Speaker 2: it's not happening. So again, not happening.
Speaker 1: All gorillas have micro penises, that's what we're saying here.
Speaker 2: That is literally what I just read.
Speaker 1: Yes, o man, Uh yeah, I almost feel like I
Speaker 1: can beat a gorilla, but a gorilla up even more.
Speaker 2: Now you are literally insane, dude.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, dude.
Speaker 3: Because a big dick makes you a better fighter.
Speaker 1: You ain't got that big dick energy, gorilla. You just
Speaker 1: got that little baby dick. You don't want that little thing.
Speaker 2: They're able to lift eighteen hundred pounds with one arm. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: you can totally fuck it up because that has a
Speaker 2: small penis.
Speaker 1: Big dick energy is a thing.
Speaker 2: In the human world.
Speaker 1: Maybe, Uh, go ahead, Sam.
Speaker 10: Well, I guess I'll can title this one a monkey
Speaker 10: and around. But uh, it's funny how not a between
Speaker 10: the the uh grila dick and not a living It's
Speaker 10: funny how I saw a video.
Speaker 9: It was over the Middle East.
Speaker 10: Uh, somebody ran a plane into a skyscraper and I
Speaker 10: was like, huh, it's funny how that one got hit
Speaker 10: by a fucking planet didn't immediately vaporize.
Speaker 2: Insane? Insane, right, And that's built shittier construction than New
Speaker 2: York City.
Speaker 9: That was like.
Speaker 10: Two ship buck houses stacked on top of each other
Speaker 10: in Detroit.
Speaker 1: But did but did that people in Detroit. But did
Speaker 1: the people flying the airplane into the towers yell I'll acbar.
Speaker 9: I mean that shit exploded, so.
Speaker 2: Probably, I mean, yeah, building like you have a pretty
Speaker 2: solid statistical probability of them being Islamic terrorists. That's you know,
Speaker 2: Ratios alone tell you that that's probably true.
Speaker 1: Spirit Animal said, if we go to war against China,
Speaker 1: can we do line Can we do Linebacker two again?
Speaker 1: But use a mix of napalm and Thermo barrack and
Speaker 1: big ass regular bombs and moabs? Could could we beat
Speaker 1: the communism out of the communists?
Speaker 2: So I don't think we can use napalm. That goes
Speaker 2: against Geneva convention these days. But yeah, if we do
Speaker 2: Operation Linebacker three, because Operation Linebacker, well I guess it
Speaker 2: would be Operation Linebacker two.
Speaker 3: I'm down, I am super But.
Speaker 10: The Geneva suggestions was done shortly there after World War Two,
Speaker 10: and Vietnam happened in twenty years after that. But I mean,
Speaker 10: if we say we're using it against vegetation, I mean,
Speaker 10: I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure Asia
Speaker 10: is a lot of fucking forests.
Speaker 2: So for anybody who doesn't know what Operation Linebacker consisted,
Speaker 2: of right. Basically, this was America deciding that we are
Speaker 2: done with the Vietnam War and we needed to force
Speaker 2: them to come to the table to sign the peace treaty. Right,
Speaker 2: And for the record, anybody who's curious, what does winning
Speaker 2: a war look like? I would argue that it is
Speaker 2: when one of the two sides is forced to come
Speaker 2: to the table against their will and sign a deal
Speaker 2: that is not beneficial to them. I think that we
Speaker 2: can pretty much all say that that is terms for
Speaker 2: saying you fucking lost taking that won the Vietnam War. Okay,
Speaker 2: now it's a pyrrhic victory because at what fucking cost? Right,
Speaker 2: And should we have even been there in the first place? Like, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. But Operation Linebacker is
Speaker 2: when we sent a basically a non stop rotation of
Speaker 2: planes dropping ordinance on the entirety of Vieta. No for
Speaker 2: was it twenty four hours or thirty six hours? And
Speaker 2: essentially they decided finally, it's like we stopped the planes
Speaker 2: and we Well, first off, he called your boy, oh
Speaker 2: whuchi man, and was like, listen, I'm gonna get you
Speaker 2: to come to these piece talks one way or another.
Speaker 2: He's basically like, good luck, right fucking taking shit, and
Speaker 2: he's like, bet, send the planes. So we bombed the
Speaker 2: entire country on repeat without stop for twenty four thirty
Speaker 2: six hours something like that. Then he called him again
Speaker 2: and is like, hey, uh, I can do this indefinitely,
Speaker 2: Like I have the logistics, I have the ordinance.
Speaker 3: I can do this until your entire country.
Speaker 2: Is a crater. It's up to you. And finally like, okay,
Speaker 2: well we'll come to the talks.
Speaker 3: And then so they signed it. They signed the Paris
Speaker 3: Peace Accords.
Speaker 2: Two years later, they renigged on the deal, and that's
Speaker 2: when we had to go and evacuate all of our
Speaker 2: people from that embassy. And that's why people think we
Speaker 2: lost the Vietnam War, but no, we we literally won it.
Speaker 1: But you know, anyway, oh, before we get a little
Speaker 1: too far, I did want to throw out there, should
Speaker 1: we say anything about Brohemian I think we should. Let's
Speaker 1: fucking say it, all right, so for those who are
Speaker 1: still here and those who are listening the next day
Speaker 1: and we'll announce it, you know, a couple more times
Speaker 1: going forward, but we are going back to Brohemian grove. Jacob,
Speaker 1: what's the date on that.
Speaker 2: I'm looking it up in my calendar right now because
Speaker 2: I don't want to misspeak.
Speaker 1: So we are at the end of June.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the week of Father's Day, so June twentieth
Speaker 2: and twenty first. It's a Friday and Saturday in June,
Speaker 2: and we will be on one of the panels on
Speaker 2: Friday Night. We are gonna be hosting at least a
Speaker 2: section of it, and I'm pumped. I'm excited. It's not
Speaker 2: gonna be in the same place it was last year.
Speaker 2: Apparently they got like a small theater that they're gonna
Speaker 2: use now, and it's it's gonna be great. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be fucking phenomenal for you.
Speaker 1: Know, if it's still in do you know if it's
Speaker 1: still in Swinger City.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't. I think it may be
Speaker 2: around that area, but I'm not one hundred percent sure
Speaker 2: for anybody who is interested. Also in coming, Owen Benjamin
Speaker 2: and Sam Tripoli are headlining Saturday Night. So comedy of
Speaker 2: a lot of names, a lot of people in and
Speaker 2: around this place. It's gonna be a blast.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like like last year whenever we went, they
Speaker 1: had a conspiracy Night and then a comedy night. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there are they splitting it yet. It
Speaker 1: isn't a two night thing again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Friday Night's going to be more of the conspiratorial,
Speaker 2: Saturday Night's going to be more of the comedy. But
Speaker 2: I mean the two kind of blend, especially when Sam
Speaker 2: Tripley and Owen Benjamin are doing because Owen Benjamin got
Speaker 2: his start as a stand up as well.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's been canceled hard to I still follow him.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get him on the show. He's
Speaker 1: a hard guy to reach out and get a hold of,
Speaker 1: but I he's a character. He's a full long kid.
Speaker 1: I think, dude, he's even had talks with Kanye. I
Speaker 1: believe he's had Kanye on his show or something like that.
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty wild, But yeah, I like Ohen Benjamin. I
Speaker 1: mean he says some kind of wild shit, but pretty
Speaker 1: cool guy to me. And then obviously Sam, we went
Speaker 1: on to tenfold, had a couple of year. Oh I
Speaker 1: was like a year ago or something like that now,
Speaker 1: but yeah, obviously, dude, these people are awesome. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be great. A lot of conspiracy theorists are going to
Speaker 1: be going there. If you want to be able to
Speaker 1: meet us in person, this would be the perfect opportunity
Speaker 1: to do it. We're gonna be getting an Airbnb with
Speaker 1: your boy Matt Rife again, which crazy shit went down
Speaker 1: last time. I will not be doing DMT this trip.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that right now, not doing that fuck that.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna be having a good time. So if
Speaker 1: you want to come hang out with us, that that's
Speaker 1: the place to do it. June twenty first, you.
Speaker 2: Said twentieth and twenty first.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, we're gonna be diving into some some
Speaker 1: aliens and shit like that.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking about all the good shit. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be a blast. It's gonna be an absolute shit
Speaker 2: can of a night. I can't wait. Also, if you
Speaker 2: would like to get your tickets and pre ordered all that,
Speaker 2: go check out the Nephelum Death Squad. I want to say,
Speaker 2: their Instagram's got some links, you know, all their platforms.
Speaker 2: Go check them out if you want to get your
Speaker 2: tickets and get your bad ass cape that they give everybody.
Speaker 2: And they also have plans to go basically, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if it's to a restaurant or to a bar afterwards.
Speaker 2: But they want to take all of the people going
Speaker 2: to Bohemian Grove and basically take over a restaurant afterwards
Speaker 2: and all the or the bar or whatever, everybody wearing
Speaker 2: the capes and doing the whole thing and making it
Speaker 2: look like, bro, who the fuck are these people?
Speaker 1: Like, it's it's going to be a blast, So we're
Speaker 1: going to look like we're in a cult.
Speaker 2: Oh let's go. Oh yes, I'm not sure if I'm
Speaker 2: bringing my armor this time or not. Probably not, Probably
Speaker 2: not right. I didn't even get to use it last time,
Speaker 2: and it was kind of it took up a lot
Speaker 2: of space for not a lot of you know, usage,
Speaker 2: so we chilling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it was a hell of a good time.
Speaker 1: A few Cult members came out last time, so shout
Speaker 1: out to Electro, Nick and Stephanie and a couple others
Speaker 1: that were able to come out there. It was a
Speaker 1: great time. We were able to go out and star
Speaker 1: watch and try and see if we can, you know,
Speaker 1: see any of the playde ins with Electro. It's just
Speaker 1: going to be an all out, like awesome two day event.
Speaker 1: It's like WrestleMania up in this bitch. Dude, it's just
Speaker 1: gonna go down. So yeah, if you ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: going on and it's a couple months in advance, maybe
Speaker 1: you can, you know, try and plan it out. It's
Speaker 1: i mean, depending on where you live, of course. You know,
Speaker 1: it's gonna determine if you drive or fly. I think
Speaker 1: for me it's like a six and a half hour
Speaker 1: drive or something like that. So we're just gonna drive
Speaker 1: because it's just gonna be me and Jacob anyway we're
Speaker 1: gonna I mean, dude, you get me and Jacob in
Speaker 1: a car where like, there's not gonna be a silent moment.
Speaker 1: That's just how that is.
Speaker 2: I will also, though, for sure, if y'all go, y'all
Speaker 2: can absolutely come and hang with us at the Airbnb afterwards.
Speaker 2: We could do a whole you know, make it worth
Speaker 2: your time and your your energy to come out there.
Speaker 1: Let's hang.
Speaker 2: Let's make it a fucking thing, man, Let's have a party.
Speaker 1: I'm not against making it a psychedelic night, but I'm
Speaker 1: not doing DMT. So I'll say that I'll be.
Speaker 2: The the d D as far as that's concerned. I'll
Speaker 2: be the sober shaman on this one.
Speaker 1: Very well, very well, Sam you're gonna come check it
Speaker 1: out this year.
Speaker 4: Dude, you damn alright.
Speaker 10: I want to bring an ounce, Well, I'm gonna have
Speaker 10: to bring about two ounces, because one's gonna have to
Speaker 10: keep me gonna be smoked on from Georgia till you
Speaker 10: say Florida.
Speaker 1: That yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I'm also gonna try to bring some stooms, and I'm
Speaker 10: gonna buy a birthday cake. So and I'm gonna make
Speaker 10: sure that everybody in the cult gets birthday cake.
Speaker 9: Sice, that's whose birthday is it?
Speaker 1: Is it your birthday around that time?
Speaker 19: Uh?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 9: My birthdays on the twenty fourth.
Speaker 10: But I'm gonna celebrate my birthday as a trip for
Speaker 10: because I haven't been on vacation in like six years.
Speaker 10: So I'm gonna do vacation this year, and it's gonna
Speaker 10: hang out with y'all.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, dude. My birthday is actually coming up in
Speaker 1: like nine or ten days now, May eighth. Hey, that's right,
Speaker 1: turning thirty.
Speaker 2: Five, dude, yep, the old fuck dude.
Speaker 1: That is old. I don't have any grays though yet.
Speaker 1: I'm not growing them in yet.
Speaker 2: Younger than you, and I got more grayes than I
Speaker 2: can fucking count, which I'm not mad at.
Speaker 1: You got more stress than I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I got more kids and more stress.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, I'm actually down with the
Speaker 2: salt and pepper. I'm hoping to go full fucking silver
Speaker 2: Fox before it's all said and done.
Speaker 1: It's the blonde, it's the blonde. I think. I think
Speaker 1: it probably just takes a little bit longer for people
Speaker 1: that are blonde to get that kind of git better.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although I'm dirty blonde, so maybe it comes in
Speaker 1: a little bit better. White boy Wizard, you gotta come
Speaker 1: check it out, dude, that'd be sick.
Speaker 2: Let's get weird, brother, God damn it.
Speaker 21: Anyways, Yeah, uh, like, I love so many of these
Speaker 21: different guys like Niffelin, desk wad you guys, fucking Sammy Tea, Like,
Speaker 21: I have to.
Speaker 4: Come, dude.
Speaker 21: I've been wanting to freaking get involved and meet.
Speaker 9: Everybody for years.
Speaker 21: I live in now, I know, so if I don't
Speaker 21: get my ass out, it ain't never gonna happen. I'm
Speaker 21: trying to come. I haven't been to Florida since I
Speaker 21: lived there when I was like seven. I'm trying to
Speaker 21: chill and fucking cook me at crack of navy.
Speaker 2: Eater, so you might.
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna have to fly because that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a long ass drive from Idaho.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what we should talk about.
Speaker 2: I'll text you.
Speaker 10: About it later.
Speaker 4: But if I can make like a fucking trip out
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 21: You know, if you can make your way, yeah.
Speaker 1: Make your way to Texas, hop in the car, yeah,
Speaker 1: and we'll just ride together. Well, we'll pick Jacob up
Speaker 1: in Louisiana. We'll get weird.
Speaker 4: That'd be sick as fuck.
Speaker 21: Yeah, when you see, Raven's not too far from me.
Speaker 21: I just learned she's in Oregon, so maybe if she
Speaker 21: wants to come, and then if Steph wants to come,
Speaker 21: she's in Utah. So like we could make an absolute
Speaker 21: fucking man gathering out of this would be sick.
Speaker 1: That would be sick, dude. And I plan on obviously
Speaker 1: not this soon, but the next time. So not this
Speaker 1: brohemian grove or not this event, but the next event,
Speaker 1: I'll have an RV and just fucking load that thing up.
Speaker 4: Dude. That would be tits mooie.
Speaker 2: That would be a whole other fucking thing.
Speaker 1: Man, Like what hot box in the entire way? Oh god,
Speaker 1: especially if we got Sam in the car with us.
Speaker 2: Nothing will be accidentally hot box. With Sam in the.
Speaker 1: Car, Sam's got a whole fucking torch over there.
Speaker 2: Dude, Okay, I'm about to hit a dad pim. What
Speaker 2: is this I.
Speaker 15: Got to hit?
Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, the ignition's boke on me. Boquala goes. I
Speaker 10: have to start it with a lighter. But to get
Speaker 10: it stone, the spirit animal will find a way. I'll
Speaker 10: gave you this ship.
Speaker 1: Well, and and look, I mean we can fit I have.
Speaker 1: I just have a charger, so it's only gonna fit
Speaker 1: five people. And I don't know how many people are
Speaker 1: gonna want to, you know, pile up in the back
Speaker 1: seat for five six hours or whatever. But however many
Speaker 1: people we can fit in the car. Dude, you're welcome
Speaker 1: to ride with us.
Speaker 15: Hey, we are.
Speaker 2: We'll figure it out, for sure. We got time. We
Speaker 2: got time to figure these things we do have.
Speaker 10: I'll hop in my key and I'll just follow you'll,
Speaker 10: but y'all know I'll be y'all see the smoke phoning
Speaker 10: out the core.
Speaker 1: We got Cheech and Chong following us back there.
Speaker 2: Dude, Oh my god, this is gonna be a fucking blast.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna be so awesome. I'm really looking forward
Speaker 1: to it, especially this year too, because last year we
Speaker 1: kind of got like a super late invite. We were
Speaker 1: able to go up and we had, you know, not
Speaker 1: necessarily a segment to ourselves or anything like that, but
Speaker 1: we were able to go up on stage, get behind
Speaker 1: some microphone, shoot the shit with Nephluin des Squad and
Speaker 1: a bunch of those guys. So this year it's gonna
Speaker 1: be for us, you know, from a personal standpoint, it's
Speaker 1: going to be more awesome and more connected for us anyway.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: I think, because we also know a little bit more
Speaker 2: of what to expect, you know what I mean, We're
Speaker 2: not gonna get blindsided by everything like we were last year.
Speaker 2: We had no fucking clue.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 1: We didn't even know what the plan was as we
Speaker 1: were driving there, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just kind of showed up and was like, ah,
Speaker 2: what do we do? Oh hey, yeah, let's do this
Speaker 2: and this like all right cool. So yeah, I think
Speaker 2: they've I think they've got more of a game plan now.
Speaker 2: I know we will have more of a game plan now,
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a fucking it's gonna be fun,
Speaker 2: and I do think the entire thing is going to
Speaker 2: be live streamed on their Rumble channel. So for everybody
Speaker 2: who also can't make it and wants to watch it
Speaker 2: and still be a part of it, like you know,
Speaker 2: what'll make it happen, and you'll.
Speaker 1: Be able to meet Matt Rife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're airbnbing with Matt Rife, So that's
Speaker 2: gonna be a good time. The real Rife technologies, everybody,
Speaker 2: not the comedian with the good jawline. We're talking about
Speaker 2: the Matt Rife who is trying to cure people with
Speaker 2: real technologies that his great uncle made.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just as handsome. I'm not gonna take that away
Speaker 1: from them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt he's got them.
Speaker 2: Baby blues. Do they pierce the soul?
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 1: That was a little gay. I'm just gonna say, because
Speaker 1: there's some people on here that are that didn't change
Speaker 1: their name. It's just iPhones. I'll just say. Somebody said,
Speaker 1: but somebody said, I found you guys by looking up
Speaker 1: cult conspiracies, since that's what I wanted to watch, and
Speaker 1: boom here we are. I mean, will there's a way,
Speaker 1: so fuck yeah, I just want to know just I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're here anymore. But if you're listening
Speaker 1: to this the next day, mister or missus or they
Speaker 1: them iPhone, how is your third eye feeling? Does it
Speaker 1: feel like it's blasting open? Is it creaking open a
Speaker 1: little bit? I'm just out of curious. I want to
Speaker 1: know how many licks does it take to get to
Speaker 1: the center of the third eye? That's what I want
Speaker 1: to know. Does it take one hundred episodes? Fifty episodes,
Speaker 1: twenty episodes? One episode even? I'm sure we have some
Speaker 1: episodes out there that people are just like, my brain
Speaker 1: can't handle this. Fucking this fucking third eye is just exploding.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, the answers are out there.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they are. The spirit animal said, did y'all
Speaker 1: hear about the cover up? In Buffalo, New York? A
Speaker 1: school system is trying to cover up two kids almost
Speaker 1: getting snatched at school, and the school is more worried
Speaker 1: about its image, so they erase the video of the
Speaker 1: almost snatching and didn't notify the parents.
Speaker 4: What.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought this up. So for anybody
Speaker 2: who doesn't know angry cops, Okay, that's the guy's name
Speaker 2: Rich High. I should say he is a veteran content creator.
Speaker 2: He also does cop videos and things like that. Right
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 3: He's a hilarious, awesome guy.
Speaker 2: He's still as much as he is a millionaire from
Speaker 2: content creation, and he is still in the Army Reserves
Speaker 2: as a drill sergeant, and he is an SVU detective.
Speaker 2: He recently went on my favorite podcast, the Unsubscribed Podcast
Speaker 2: and talked about this issue, and he decided, like, you
Speaker 2: know what, fuck it, I am going to blow the
Speaker 2: whistle on this, and I'm going to use all of
Speaker 2: my power of the Internet to bring awareness to this.
Speaker 2: So Buffalo City School Board or the state whatever, I
Speaker 2: don't know to what level of this fuck up it goes.
Speaker 2: He is accusing or whatever you want to say. He's
Speaker 2: blowing the wistle on the fact that they are getting
Speaker 2: in the way of investigations. They are deleting evidence. They
Speaker 2: are reporters, like by law, they have to report if
Speaker 2: a kid has something happen to them, and they are
Speaker 2: negating to do so. There was one instance even brought
Speaker 2: up where this kid came to school bruised up and says, yeah,
Speaker 2: my dad beats me. The teachers did nothing. This kid
Speaker 2: had a video. It was like a kid, I say,
Speaker 2: like eleven twelve year old girl came in like swollen eyes,
Speaker 2: the whole nine and actually had a cell phoned video
Speaker 2: of her dad beating the shit out of her.
Speaker 3: Shows it to the school.
Speaker 2: They did nothing, and they they understand this is a fact,
Speaker 2: the abduction that took place. There is a like a
Speaker 2: like a science observatory style building conjoined with this one school,
Speaker 2: and it's like a lower grade school, like K through
Speaker 2: five school, And there is a door that connects the
Speaker 2: two buildings that is not secured, and there's no cameras
Speaker 2: on that. There's cameras, but like not it's specifically at
Speaker 2: that door. It's not locked, which is a major security
Speaker 2: red flag. This guy came in and tried abducting this
Speaker 2: girl and this boy little at five and six years old.
Speaker 2: He was unsuccessful. The kid's parents when they picked up
Speaker 2: the little boy, he pissed his pants because he was
Speaker 2: so scared of what was about to happen. The parents
Speaker 2: were never informed that there was a potential abduction attempt.
Speaker 2: They asked, why did my kids, uh, you know, pee himself?
Speaker 2: What happened? The teachers, Oh, I don't know. I didn't
Speaker 2: see a report on that today. I'm sorry, we must
Speaker 2: not have wrote it down. They were never fucking told
Speaker 2: that an abduction attempt happened on their child homeschool.
Speaker 1: Homeschool from for the rest of forever.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck that torched the entire school system because not
Speaker 2: one instance or five instances, this has been going on
Speaker 2: for years, of them not reporting, of them getting in
Speaker 2: the way of investigations, of them being uncooperative with detectives
Speaker 2: when they tried to come up and talk to them
Speaker 2: about anything, deleting evidence, refusal, no, no, Yeah. So Rich
Speaker 2: High aka Angry Cops is designing to blow the whistle,
Speaker 2: and he's like, yo, fuck my career, like I am
Speaker 2: making enough YouTube money to where I don't care if
Speaker 2: the if the police officers, you know, he's protected by
Speaker 2: the police officers union. Also, I might add, but he's
Speaker 2: basically saying like, I'm willing to risk it all to
Speaker 2: protect these kids. He's been an SVU detective for years
Speaker 2: and he sees the underbelly of society, so like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's he's willing to fucking roll the dice on this one.
Speaker 2: And the Internet is responding because fuck yes, they are
Speaker 2: so thank you Sam for bringing that up and to
Speaker 2: our attention, and for everybody of the Cult of Conspiracy
Speaker 2: family here go out and support this in any way
Speaker 2: you can. And I don't mean like give money. He's
Speaker 2: not asking for that. He's asking for you to share awareness.
Speaker 2: There's a many many videos on YouTube of him right now.
Speaker 2: The fifteen minute clip of him talking about this on
Speaker 2: the other Subscribe podcast, he breaks it all down. He
Speaker 2: like breaks down crying like two or three times in it.
Speaker 2: Share the shit, blast it. This needs to be made aware,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Good on him for wanting to just burn it down, dude,
Speaker 1: I mean to not like to just go off swinging
Speaker 1: doing what's right because it's right. Like, man, those are
Speaker 1: some heroes right there.
Speaker 2: The world needs more people like him, Like, I cannot
Speaker 2: stress that enough. Not just because he's funny in the
Speaker 2: content creation and whatever like, no, no, Like he is
Speaker 2: so convicted, like truly to his core convicted for to
Speaker 2: do what he believes is right. That's why he's still
Speaker 2: in the army. That's why he still does detective work
Speaker 2: while he makes millions millions on YouTube and content shit,
Speaker 2: but he still clocks in as a detective because he
Speaker 2: knows that that's what's needed, and he's about that smoke like. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't express enough the amount of respect and admiration
Speaker 2: I have for this guy.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, spirit animal.
Speaker 10: Yeah. Oh, I just want to say that he's been
Speaker 10: the Uh. So, he was at Buffalo for a year,
Speaker 10: then he went up to he got promoters to the
Speaker 10: tenant and worked for the FBI for doing the same
Speaker 10: old clowns and everything, and then went back did and
Speaker 10: done another year. So that and most as for you detectives,
Speaker 10: only when he stayed in for three years.
Speaker 9: Statistically they don't go past three years.
Speaker 2: And did he work for the FBI or he was
Speaker 2: like a liaison and worked with the FBI. I thought
Speaker 2: it was a wh I thought it.
Speaker 9: I think it's a liaison. I he worked with them,
Speaker 9: not for them. But he did get promoted to a lieutenant.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And honestly, Uh, if you fuck with our boats, you
Speaker 10: get this song. But if you her our children, we're
Speaker 10: going to put you either in a wood chip or
Speaker 10: we're going to put you on a fucking spike a cross.
Speaker 2: I like the gorilla idea honestly, and I think this
Speaker 2: might be my new favorite method.
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy that Buffalo would be doing that,
Speaker 1: because Buffalo is not as from my understanding, Buffalo is
Speaker 1: like the non retarded part of New York.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the Bills Mafia? All evidence to the contrary.
Speaker 1: Sir, Bill's mafia's are some gangsters, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are also some fucking flaming retarts. Like they
Speaker 2: they jump off of like two story buildings to break
Speaker 2: up a plastic table and like you could listen to
Speaker 2: the first responders, they get called there all the time
Speaker 2: for broken ribs and like cracked backs and shit. Every
Speaker 2: time the Bills have a game like say what you want,
Speaker 2: Like I'm, you.
Speaker 1: Know, shout out to the die hard fans out there,
Speaker 1: gotta love it. Unless unless you're from Philadelphia, then why
Speaker 1: are you torching your city? Why are you doing that?
Speaker 1: And who does that help?
Speaker 2: I understand being such a hardcore fan that you do
Speaker 2: wild shit, but like I you know, I.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, moving on from that, I would like
Speaker 1: to look a little bit deeper into that too, and
Speaker 1: maybe we can try and get him on That would
Speaker 1: be awesome.
Speaker 2: I wish, oh my god, I would. I would kill
Speaker 2: for that. But he's that and also he's not a
Speaker 2: big conspiracy guy.
Speaker 1: I'll this is a grand conspiracy.
Speaker 2: It is, but he's trying to take this more towards
Speaker 2: like he's been on multiple news uh, like mainstream media
Speaker 2: and legacy media to bring awareness to this. I think
Speaker 2: going on a conspiracy podcast to the outside world would
Speaker 2: kind of make it look like he's not taking this
Speaker 2: as serious because he's trying to like get people's careers
Speaker 2: fucked up right now. But I would love for him
Speaker 2: to come on our show.
Speaker 1: Holy fuck yeah, that'd be sick. Speaking of conspiracies, God
Speaker 1: is Love said they've proven Earth was hotter around the
Speaker 1: Roman Times, vegetation thrived worldwide. Fuck these fuckers, I like it,
Speaker 1: can't deny it.
Speaker 2: Spirit Animal how they've proven it was hotter during the.
Speaker 1: Roman Times, That's what he said.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look into that. That's interesting. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: you're you're wrong. I've I've never heard that, but like, okay, okay.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 1: Spirit Animals posted a picture saying, uh, why is there
Speaker 1: a patent for subliminal acoustic manipulation Manipulation of the nervous
Speaker 1: system Patent number six oh one two A We looked
Speaker 1: into this before mm hmm, because it's real it's got
Speaker 1: a crowd work. You hear about it with concerts and whatnot.
Speaker 1: What was it Travis Scott concert, a couple others.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, you could also look at what just
Speaker 2: took place in uh not Syria, Romania right them dispersing
Speaker 2: the crowds like that. With sonic weaponization, there's the thing
Speaker 2: could be. I'm sure you could use that to manipulate
Speaker 2: and brainwash too.
Speaker 1: There's more religious stuff. I don't really want to get
Speaker 1: into the religious shit anymore, though.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet. What is it?
Speaker 1: I mean, I can read it. I just you know,
Speaker 1: just religion in general. Uh zoom user said, what if
Speaker 1: religion was brought about to help conform humans, give them hope,
Speaker 1: which is the number one thing people need to continue,
Speaker 1: and to allow atrocities to be sanctioned under the guise
Speaker 1: of cleansing the earth of non believers or other religions.
Speaker 1: Just a thought.
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people say that before, and
Speaker 2: there's an argument for it. I you know, everybody's got
Speaker 2: their own opinion as far as religion is concerned. I
Speaker 2: also feel like religion is trying to put God in
Speaker 2: a box, and the God I worship doesn't fit in
Speaker 2: a box.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Roy said, I think most people have always
Speaker 1: looked to something to try to explain the old question
Speaker 1: of why I know I'm there. I know there are
Speaker 1: those who have used religion for horrible purposes. There was
Speaker 1: a phrase I heard a long time ago. We have
Speaker 1: enough religion to make war but not peace. And it's
Speaker 1: unfortunately a very true thing, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Big facts, Big facts.
Speaker 1: White boy Wizard said, I got a built in sweater,
Speaker 1: and I'm bred from barbarians and Swedes. Bring on the
Speaker 1: next ice age.
Speaker 2: Yoh, I got a built in sweater too, but I'm
Speaker 2: a bitch with the cold. I don't want none of that.
Speaker 2: I like being hot and humid at all times. Some
Speaker 2: of true blue Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Boy, Yeah, buddy. Then there was a long rant which
Speaker 1: we don't need to get into. God has loved said
Speaker 1: read John Cole. Colemax Club of Rome book exposedes the
Speaker 1: origin of climate change and their use UH and their
Speaker 1: plan to use this made up lie of a narrative
Speaker 1: to control the world and steal the wealth. They straight
Speaker 1: up admitted it back when they came up with it
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: Club of Rome is a very interesting, uh organization in
Speaker 2: and of itself. So yeah, one hundred percent with you
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 10: M m mm.
Speaker 1: Jamie said, gonna join U, gonna join on the weed.
Speaker 2: Drugs, join on the weed drugs.
Speaker 1: Oh talking about the uh the what was her name?
Speaker 1: Uh that was on the flight list that we were
Speaker 1: talking about earlier. Yeah, suppocially she was hit by a bus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Virginia Guthrie.
Speaker 21: It wasn't a car crash. You got hit by a bus.
Speaker 2: That's that's what God is Love said, and then allegedly
Speaker 2: committed suicide after for years and years saying that she
Speaker 2: was not so right right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm.
Speaker 2: Surprised Jazana is still alive. Like I figured that she
Speaker 2: would have epstein herself in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 1: But like, she's never gonna sing. She's never gonna sing.
Speaker 1: If she sings, she goes down anyway, Like why would
Speaker 1: she There's I don't I mean, they probably have offered
Speaker 1: her some kind of plea deals, but she knows, she
Speaker 1: knows damn well. If she sings, she's dead as soon
Speaker 1: as she gets out. Anyway, even if you go into
Speaker 1: some kind of hiding, people will find out.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 1: I mean I believe that she knows damn well that
Speaker 1: she's probably a lot safer in that prison cell, if
Speaker 1: that's where she actually is.
Speaker 2: If right, big if on that, I mean, I hear you.
Speaker 2: It's like, if she keeps her mouth shut, she might survive.
Speaker 2: But then again, these powers that be are allowing that
Speaker 2: potential for her to keep her mouth shut, or the
Speaker 2: potential for I just's same with EPs Like they killed him,
Speaker 2: and he had all of the reason to keep his
Speaker 2: mouth shut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was probably trying to blackmail them with
Speaker 1: all of his information, you know, like, oh, US government,
Speaker 1: you're gonna try and take me down? How about Bill Clinton?
Speaker 1: You know, how about all these other people that were
Speaker 1: on my plane? You want to take down your entire
Speaker 1: government by trying to take me down. I think that's
Speaker 1: probably what happened.
Speaker 2: I get it. I just dead man can tell no tales.
Speaker 2: And it still blows my mind that she's breathing. I
Speaker 2: figured they would have offed her immediately after Epstein, But
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe she maybe she has a little
Speaker 2: more pull than what everybody thought. Right she was like
Speaker 2: the handler, Maybe she was more of the mastermind.
Speaker 1: Who knows, White Boy Wizard said if it acts like
Speaker 1: a gorilla dick and smells like a gorilla dick, then
Speaker 1: that's a sam squanch.
Speaker 2: Ooh okay, does that mean that sam squanch is fucking
Speaker 2: hung like that? Or is it hung like a gorilla
Speaker 2: with a one inch dick?
Speaker 1: Well? I mean, I guess that gets into the That
Speaker 1: gets into the philosophical question of is the sam squench
Speaker 1: the connection? Is? Is the Sam squench the connection that
Speaker 1: we need to link humans and monkeys?
Speaker 2: Were they international tree people that have the cloaking ability
Speaker 2: to like blend into their environment like the predator?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I wasn't going there. I was just talking
Speaker 1: about the physical Bigfoot, not the interdimensional one.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, I mean is the dick the connective
Speaker 2: tissue there?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying some people say that they
Speaker 1: believe that Bigfoot is the evolutionary link that has been
Speaker 1: missing to connect humans to monkeys tissue.
Speaker 2: Though, yes, like is it you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like if we went from a one inch dick on
Speaker 2: a gorilla to you know, depending on racial ethnicity or
Speaker 2: average dick of a human, Like I mean, is the
Speaker 2: Bigfoot dick like three inches and that's like the connective
Speaker 2: thing right or two to maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Sam. Have you ever looked into a
Speaker 1: big foot dick?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 9: I haven't.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's blurred.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be blurry.
Speaker 1: It's just blurried.
Speaker 10: It's probably I don't know, but it's probably like Tobacca,
Speaker 10: just hair and shag.
Speaker 9: It's the seventies.
Speaker 1: You think it's so hairy that it would it would
Speaker 1: have like a red rocket type situation, or to just
Speaker 1: be flopping around all the time.
Speaker 2: I think it's Harry all the way up the shaft.
Speaker 1: Due, Jonathan, I know you.
Speaker 10: It seems like you're projecting on me a bit, But
Speaker 10: are you interested in.
Speaker 9: Getting you a bigfoot daddy mommy type deal?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna take me intered dimensionally, sure,
Speaker 1: I'll be a bigfoots bitch.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, why not? I don't get weird.
Speaker 10: That is why God is crying, because he's so disappointed
Speaker 10: in you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, God's tears. I feel him right now.
Speaker 2: Out his love. Why are you showing your license plate?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 2: Are you trying to like dox yourself? What is this?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 1: Stephanie, go ahead? Are you going to be making your
Speaker 1: way out to Brohemian Grove this year. That would be awesome.
Speaker 22: Oh one, I already booked my ticket. I am so
Speaker 22: fucking ready. I'm excited.
Speaker 9: So yeah, absolutely, hell yeah.
Speaker 1: You uh gonna be dabbling in some die methyl trip.
Speaker 1: To mean, we'll see.
Speaker 22: Where the adventure of the evening takesas where the wind blows.
Speaker 2: We'll see, isn't it coming.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. I'll I'll reach out to
Speaker 1: him and see if he is he.
Speaker 2: Oh, he was there for work last time, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, that was the only reason why that happened.
Speaker 2: But I mean, especially with everything that he's got going
Speaker 2: on in his life right now, I don't know if
Speaker 2: he can leave and like do stuff, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, that's I don't know. Yeah, we'll find out.
Speaker 1: I mean, either way, it's going to be a great time.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, well we'll save that. Let's see here,
Speaker 1: Tony said. Moloch is similar to Melick, which means king.
Speaker 1: Some people think Moloch was another name for Yahweh. Infant
Speaker 1: sacrifice is banned in Leviticus, but it had but it
Speaker 1: had to be banned again under Josiah in about seven
Speaker 1: hundred BC. I believe there was a pro and anti
Speaker 1: child sacrifice factions in ancient and ancient Israel, and the
Speaker 1: anti wing Wan thank God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was definitely a thing. I have heard
Speaker 2: it's connected to like Melick as far as the languages
Speaker 2: are concerned. I don't know if that's like a guaranteed connection.
Speaker 2: If it kind of sounds similar, so it might be.
Speaker 2: But the dog headed, human bodied god of Moloch that
Speaker 2: had the fire hearth in its chest that they would
Speaker 2: put their babies into, like that that's documented, like not
Speaker 2: even from Israeli sources, like that's that's documented by their
Speaker 2: sources as well.
Speaker 1: Moloch was the owl I thought, No Moloch?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So here's where that connective tissue kind
Speaker 2: of comes, but also is completely separate. Athena, the Greek goddess,
Speaker 2: had an owl that was named Moloch. Okay. The Canaanite
Speaker 2: god Moloch was a dog headed, human bodied deity that
Speaker 2: they would sacrifice their children to in a burning inferno
Speaker 2: in his body.
Speaker 1: Okay, people just need to get original and start coming
Speaker 1: up with some different names here. Why are we naming
Speaker 1: the same shit?
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, right, And apparently all the gods that
Speaker 2: they have like three or more similarities, they're clearly the
Speaker 2: same god. It's like, what, okay, sure, it's I don't
Speaker 2: get it. I people look for connections that may or
Speaker 2: may not be there. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was actually just looking this up earlier. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to talk about it because I think I brought
Speaker 1: it up before. But you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: crazy similarities between Krishna and Jesus.
Speaker 2: Not as many as people want to make out to believe.
Speaker 1: I got at least twenty of them.
Speaker 2: The closest I've seen was Mithra, and that even then,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of differences, especially the fact that even
Speaker 2: the atheist scholars acknowledged that Jesus actually walked the earth.
Speaker 1: Oh, people believe that there's like like documented history that
Speaker 1: Krishna was a real person too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was heard that.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't hear it until earlier today. I
Speaker 1: started looking into it. And same thing. They believe that
Speaker 1: there's like some kind of pottery connected to exactly when
Speaker 1: he was around, and there's like a bunch of different
Speaker 1: accounts of him. But anyway, I mean, uh, there's a
Speaker 1: whole divine birth thing born of a virgin. Both of them.
Speaker 1: It says evil rulers sought their death, both of them.
Speaker 1: So Herad is it Herad that ordered the slaughter. Herod
Speaker 1: ordered the slaughter of male infants in Bethlehem to kill Jesus,
Speaker 1: whereas Krishna, it says Kamza tried to kill him by
Speaker 1: slaying infants across the land. That's a strange coincidence. Then
Speaker 1: they were raised in secrecy.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Krishna was hidden and raised in a rural village to
Speaker 1: protect him from Kamsa, whereas you know Christ his family
Speaker 1: fled to Egypt to hide from Herod. They were both
Speaker 1: called shepherds, which is interesting. So Krishna was a cow herder,
Speaker 1: often depicted playing the flute among the people in animals.
Speaker 1: Christ was called the good shepherd who tends to his flock.
Speaker 1: They both performed miracles. Krishna raised the mountain called Gavardan
Speaker 1: to protect his people, multiplied food, healed and subdued demons,
Speaker 1: whereas Christ walked on water, healed the sick, multiplied bread,
Speaker 1: and fished and cast out demons. That's pretty interesting. There
Speaker 1: are divine and human natures attributed to them. So Krishna was.
Speaker 1: It says that he was an avatar of Vishnu, which
Speaker 1: is the God incarnate in human form.
Speaker 2: Christ.
Speaker 1: You know that story, considered the son of God and
Speaker 1: part of the Trinity, part of the Trinity, fully divine
Speaker 1: and fully human. The next one. They both spoke profound
Speaker 1: spiritual truths. You had Krishna in the Baghava Ghita, Christ
Speaker 1: and the Gospels and so on. They both emphasized love
Speaker 1: and devotion. They both died a violent death. Chrishna died
Speaker 1: from a hunter's arrow piercing his foot, seen by some
Speaker 1: as a sacrifice or exit from the world. Christ was crucified.
Speaker 1: They both had a promise to return. Krishna, it says
Speaker 1: the Hindu prophecy speaks of Kalki, the final avatar of Vishnu,
Speaker 1: to appear in the future. Christ promised his second coming
Speaker 1: to bring justice in peace. Dude, and it goes like
Speaker 1: it's crazy. They were both seen as saviors. They were
Speaker 1: both initiators of a new era. They both spoke in
Speaker 1: parables and allegories. Their lives were both recorded in sacred scripture.
Speaker 1: There's universal figure years beyond religion. It says Krishna revered
Speaker 1: in Hinduism, but also honored in yoga and spiritual communities.
Speaker 1: Da Da da Christ center to Christianity, but also respected
Speaker 1: in Islam, mystical Judaism, and spiritual circles. There's a union
Speaker 1: with the divine through them, so Krishna, the union meaning
Speaker 1: yoga with God through Bakhti, which is the devotion to Krishna,
Speaker 1: and then Christ the union with God through Christ. No
Speaker 1: one comes to me, comes to the Father except through me.
Speaker 1: They both transcended death, which is kind of strange. Krishna.
Speaker 1: It says, though killed by a hunter's arrow, his soul
Speaker 1: is said to return to the spiritual realm. They were
Speaker 1: both surrounded by devoted disciples. They both hadral, the central
Speaker 1: symbol of love. So Krishna, his relationship with Radha is
Speaker 1: the highest symbol of divine love. Christ his self sacrifice
Speaker 1: on the cross is the ultimate act of divine love.
Speaker 1: And the last one, I'm sure there's more. I just
Speaker 1: found twenty of them, which I was like, five can
Speaker 1: tell me all of them? That's kind of crazy. But
Speaker 1: the last one says that the teachings emphasized the eternal soul.
Speaker 1: So Krishna said, the soul is neither born, nor does
Speaker 1: it ever die, whereas Christ said, do not fear those
Speaker 1: who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul. So
Speaker 1: there's more than just a couple.
Speaker 2: But they also understand that a lot of those could
Speaker 2: be put towards a lot of different deities, like a lot,
Speaker 2: but all of them, there's only twenty. Like yeah, and
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's like, look at those they spoke
Speaker 2: in parables, they spoke about the eternal soul. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot of mystical teachers and prophets and all that have
Speaker 2: done that. They try, they were tried to be killed
Speaker 2: as kids. Yeah, so was Moses. For instance, the Pharaoh
Speaker 2: killed every Jew that was under or every Hebrew that
Speaker 2: was under two.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Moses wasn't born of a virgin.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying there's examples of leaders killing infants
Speaker 2: for a purpose like that's not that's not a one off.
Speaker 2: That's actually a lot more common than what you believe.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that there's a lot of coincidences, That's
Speaker 1: all I was trying to say.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's yeah, but this is not to say
Speaker 2: like Krishna and Jesus were like the same person.
Speaker 1: That's no, of course, not but I and also like
Speaker 1: that all that Chrishna stuff that that goes back to
Speaker 1: like supposedly if Krishna was a real person, that he
Speaker 1: was around in like twenty three hundred BC.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've never heard Krishna being put to it, like,
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, real as far as like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: believe God is real. I don't think you know anything
Speaker 2: less like that. I know the Hindus believe them to
Speaker 2: be real deities. I didn't know they actually thought that
Speaker 2: they lived and walked the earth and died and all
Speaker 2: those things. I thought. In Krishna, the one that's doing
Speaker 2: is his death dance to end the world when the
Speaker 2: time comes.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know enough about the Hindu I
Speaker 1: love looking into the Hindu stuff, but I'm not super
Speaker 1: well versed in it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean there's there's similarities to save your
Speaker 2: figures for sure. Again, only one that we have documented
Speaker 2: from multiple sources. Even their enemies wrote about them and stuff.
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw it out there because I
Speaker 1: just so happened to be doing a little bit of
Speaker 1: research just for my own personal curiosity earlier, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's kind of strange. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, make with that as you will.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say the ones real and one
Speaker 1: is and I'm not a going there. Everybody has the
Speaker 1: right to believe whatever they want to believe. I just
Speaker 1: I was just like, I mean, maybe those aren't strong
Speaker 1: enough coincidences for everybody to scratch their head, but for me,
Speaker 1: it seemed like kind of crazy. You know that the
Speaker 1: lives were pretty similar in that way.
Speaker 2: I've seen Mithra be compared to Jesus in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways. I've seen Nimrod be connected in certain ways
Speaker 2: of the virgin birth and the whole nine. I've seen
Speaker 2: other other deities of the Greek pantheon and even the
Speaker 2: Nordic pantheon like, oh you have Jesus, Oh we have Boulder.
Speaker 2: It's like the same thing. And it's like it's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was was Merlin born of a virgin? Go ahead, Marlin?
Speaker 15: No, No, she goes far from it. But no, all right,
Speaker 15: so quick thought like, isn't crazy?
Speaker 4: All right? So the first.
Speaker 15: Religion had the epic googamesh.
Speaker 14: I'm not sure what that guy's name is, but he
Speaker 14: had all the same similarities born a virgin.
Speaker 15: Birth, had to go through the trials and whatnot.
Speaker 14: And that was approximately like four thousand, two thousand years
Speaker 14: before Christians with one Jonathan was talking about. Then got
Speaker 14: another two thousand years and that's about the time of Jesus.
Speaker 14: And then we've got another two thousand years and now
Speaker 14: we got this motherfucker saying he's Mohammed.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, Hey, I see what you're saying there. It's
Speaker 1: not that crazy.
Speaker 15: It's crazy just the coincidences. But that was just my thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and just looking throughout all the different
Speaker 1: religions and whatnot, so I just wanted to find out,
Speaker 1: you know, who were all of the religious figures that
Speaker 1: were notably born of a virgin. So obviously top of
Speaker 1: that list is JC. Then you got Krishna, Horus, Mithras, Dionysis, Buddha, Zoroaster,
Speaker 1: Addis from Phrygian mythology, Romulus, and Remus, Laozi or Laozoo
Speaker 1: from Daoism. And that's all it named there so far.
Speaker 2: So ten, I mean, I'm sure there's more, but right, yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: and you got to think about the earliest form of man.
Speaker 2: What would be the most miraculous thing that you could
Speaker 2: think of a virgin birth or like a resurrection from
Speaker 2: the dead like that. That's some of the most insane
Speaker 2: shit that they could even fathom of that time. So yeah,
Speaker 2: you have all kinds of stories like that, any.
Speaker 1: Kind of crazy though, Like you have all these not
Speaker 1: all of them, of course, but some of them do
Speaker 1: like pre date Christianity, right, So like think about I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to say that you can put yourself on
Speaker 1: the same brain wave length as God or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but if you were God and you saw that there
Speaker 1: was all these other figures that were already allegedly being
Speaker 1: born by a virgin, why would you then do the
Speaker 1: same thing, Like think of how about like being born
Speaker 1: of I don't know of the spirit or something like
Speaker 1: that instead of even a woman, Like take it up
Speaker 1: a notch.
Speaker 2: So there is a thought process to say that that
Speaker 2: would be why all these other pantheons of gods and
Speaker 2: deities had that, because there was a Yahweh prophecy that
Speaker 2: said that this is going to happen. And if we
Speaker 2: are to believe that the fallen ones came down and
Speaker 2: were supposedly their children were like the men of Renown
Speaker 2: and the men of old and all these things, and
Speaker 2: they tried spreading seeds of doubt and deceit into people
Speaker 2: and were like allegedly the pantheons of all these other
Speaker 2: gods were demons and fallen ones taking different forms.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: No one knows the Bible better than the devil because
Speaker 2: he knows how it ends. So it would also make
Speaker 2: sense that they would try to take that and bastardize
Speaker 2: it for their own purposes. That's that is at least
Speaker 2: a thought that has been proposed, just makes sense.
Speaker 1: You know what though, that that kind of thought process
Speaker 1: has been used so many times for so many different things.
Speaker 1: That's like the people that say, well, you couldn't have
Speaker 1: spoken to the Eloheim because you're not a Christian, so
Speaker 1: that was clearly a demon. It's like always the blame
Speaker 1: on the fucking demons.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's that's bullshit. So God only speaks to Christians,
Speaker 2: that's fucking that's retorted.
Speaker 1: I agree, Uh, spirit animal, your thoughts on this. We
Speaker 1: got a couple more minutes and it's counting.
Speaker 10: I don't know what's going on my phone. It's fucked
Speaker 10: up anyway. I was gonna I was trying to put
Speaker 10: a thing out. Uh, there's a theory that Alexander the
Speaker 10: Great was actually buried alive because they said that he was.
Speaker 9: Most of his says that they thought he was dead.
Speaker 9: His body didn't decompose, but uh, they think it's a on.
Speaker 10: This is called GBS well back name is of it.
Speaker 9: It's h I think French. I can't pronounce it.
Speaker 10: But because evidence of that state, it's but it's a
Speaker 10: theory you at now. But the fact that he was
Speaker 10: so it pretty much is caused somebody to be almost
Speaker 10: in like a deathlike state because they're are completely paralyzed,
Speaker 10: but they're completely mentally aware and everything.
Speaker 2: And so I've also recently read an article that says
Speaker 2: that certain experts believe that Alexander the Great was eaten
Speaker 2: by sharks. I had never in my life heard that one,
Speaker 2: but apparently there is some evidence that would lead certain
Speaker 2: experts to believe this.
Speaker 1: I you know, do you see where do you see
Speaker 1: where historical evidence gets fucking Whenever people say, oh, there's
Speaker 1: evidence for this, there's evidence for that, It's like, but
Speaker 1: who's giving you the evidence?
Speaker 2: But with that being said, Alexander the Great, his whole life,
Speaker 2: his exploits, all that were never written about until after
Speaker 2: one hundred years after he died. That's why the story
Speaker 2: gets a little crazy. Jc's story was written about while
Speaker 2: he was alive and then within fifty years of him dying.
Speaker 1: Not everybody agrees on that, Like there's not all scholars
Speaker 1: agree on that. So that's not like a foundational belief.
Speaker 1: It is a fractured kind of believing because I you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, whenever I was doing the research into
Speaker 1: the Lost Gospel of q that's that's what they brought up.
Speaker 1: They brought up that there are actually like a lot
Speaker 1: of biblical scholars out there that do believe that a
Speaker 1: lot of that about Jesus, and that whole story wasn't
Speaker 1: written until like seventy years after his death.
Speaker 2: Within seventy years of it. I'll give you that, but
Speaker 2: I mean I'm not all of it. Yeah, there were
Speaker 2: some gospels and shit that was written around like first hundred,
Speaker 2: second century, third century. The first completed Bible Codex Sinaticus,
Speaker 2: which is what we now have as the first quote
Speaker 2: unquote complete start to finish Bible, that was only compiled
Speaker 2: because Rome made Christianity the new national religion and they
Speaker 2: needed to know what to do and how to do it.
Speaker 2: So he sent the word out to everybody, bring me
Speaker 2: every book that's associated with this, dude, and let's compile
Speaker 2: it all.
Speaker 3: That's also where they threw out a lot of.
Speaker 2: The Gnostic texts that were written about after this, and
Speaker 2: a lot of these lost gospels of dot dot dot
Speaker 2: weren't lost. They were known about, and they were cast
Speaker 2: aside because they were heretical and forgeries. They were only
Speaker 2: rediscovered around like the Renaissance in some cases, and like
Speaker 2: in the nineteen thirties and other cases. And everybody's like, so,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we never knew about this, And it's like, no,
Speaker 2: if you look at the first and second centuries, they
Speaker 2: knew about them. But it's yeah, so, I mean, it
Speaker 2: depends on the source too, right, John the Beloved wrote
Speaker 2: about it. He was the only disciple that didn't die
Speaker 2: from execution. He lived and died of old age. He
Speaker 2: wrote about his own shit. So that's a first person source.
Speaker 2: You know. Hey, it's a.
Speaker 1: Thing allegedly, you know. That's the thing. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you only have truth whenever you're talking about history. You
Speaker 1: only have truth that so many people agree on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's how truth has always been told throughout history. Is
Speaker 1: that can you get a certain amount of people to
Speaker 1: agree that this is truth?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: So with that being said, Alexander the Great, the people
Speaker 2: that wrote about him one hundred years later, don't just
Speaker 2: read the Greek stories, read his enemy stories that lost
Speaker 2: armies at the hands of him. That is how you
Speaker 2: verify if the story that we believe of what happened
Speaker 2: actually happened or not. You don't just read the Bible
Speaker 2: to find the story of Jesus. There is I can
Speaker 2: name you right now eight secular sources, some of them
Speaker 2: the enemies of Jesus that wrote about him and what
Speaker 2: he did. So again, you got to look at both
Speaker 2: sides of the coin, and goddamn, whenever it all verifies itself,
Speaker 2: it's like, shit, this has to be true.
Speaker 1: They don't all agree that he was the chosen one.
Speaker 1: Like they agree that there was a guy named Jesus.
Speaker 1: Some of them call him a prophet, some say that
Speaker 1: he was a sage of sorts or whatever, you know.
Speaker 1: And so just because you have certain people saying the
Speaker 1: certain name doesn't necessarily paint the entire picture, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, that's like, I'm sure that the
Speaker 1: enemies and the people that were for Jesus didn't agree
Speaker 1: on a whole lot.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying they agreed on him being the
Speaker 2: son of God. I'm saying they agree that he was
Speaker 2: a dude that really lived, really died, really rose from
Speaker 2: the dead, He really did heal people, He really did
Speaker 2: do all these miraculous things.
Speaker 1: Yes, but rising from the dead was told about from
Speaker 1: one perspective that was not told about by the enemies.
Speaker 2: Incorrect. There's a Roman source that says this, I look,
Speaker 2: we could do this like this is a big portion
Speaker 2: of why I'm a Christian. It can't be denied. And
Speaker 2: this is again, if you are to believe the sources.
Speaker 2: I've done my recent starts into it, and I believe
Speaker 2: these sources, both of the secular and of the religious
Speaker 2: standpoints that say that, Nah, your boy did the things
Speaker 2: he said he was gonna do. Now, there's other people
Speaker 2: who disagree with this. Right, he's written about in the Talmud.
Speaker 2: The Talmud that his enemies, the dudes that killed him,
Speaker 2: literally wrote about him and the things he did and
Speaker 2: the things he claimed. They disagreed with the things he claimed,
Speaker 2: but they couldn't negate what he did.
Speaker 1: So I guess. So I'm just saying I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that there's just I think that whenever it
Speaker 1: comes to history, do we can't trust our history fucking
Speaker 1: ten days ago, let alone two thousand years ago.
Speaker 2: That's why look at all sources to paint the whole picture.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. And when you do that, the
Speaker 2: picture's pretty clear.
Speaker 11: Mmm.
Speaker 2: To some dude, nobody dies gets tortured alive for a lie,
Speaker 2: and also all of his disciples being tortured alive, and
Speaker 2: all of that also historically verified. Nobody's gonna do that
Speaker 2: to commit to the bit that hard. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to tear down to anybody's beliefs here.
Speaker 2: That's not my goal here. Like, I believe that everybody
Speaker 2: has a right to believe whatever they want to believe.
Speaker 2: But whenever you start saying things that are absolutely fact,
Speaker 2: I have a hard time with that. I know you do,
Speaker 2: but that's also because you don't really do the whole
Speaker 2: one hundred percent fact on pretty much anything. And that's
Speaker 2: not against you on that. That's kind of who you are.
Speaker 2: And I get that. You know, this is one of
Speaker 2: those things where me and you have very diverging belief systems.
Speaker 1: But that's all well, because I see room for fuckery.
Speaker 1: There's always room for fuckery, and there's always reason to
Speaker 1: lie about a story if there's something to gain, which
Speaker 1: a lot of people have a lot to gain if
Speaker 1: this story is believed, right or wrong.
Speaker 2: No, I see what you're saying. But then also people
Speaker 2: had a lot to lose if they kept talking about it.
Speaker 2: Look at Saul of Tarsus. This dude went around murdering Christians,
Speaker 2: like burning them alive in buildings and shit. Then out
Speaker 2: of nowhere he starts coming back and writes most of
Speaker 2: the New Testament. He was thrown in jail. He was
Speaker 2: beaten for this, Like it's not like doing this was
Speaker 2: a positive thing, and like he got super rich off
Speaker 2: of this. He was blasted by his contemporaries. He was
Speaker 2: a he was a rabbi, and yet became Paul the apostle.
Speaker 1: Saul became Paul who was writing all that shit from
Speaker 1: a prison cell. Never once met Jesus.
Speaker 2: Right, well, met him on the road to Damascus, but
Speaker 2: not like face to face, like.
Speaker 1: In his imagination that's where he met him.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh, the imagination so ash a projection and catching
Speaker 2: a download is not the imagination. But this guy had
Speaker 2: an imagination situation.
Speaker 1: So it works for this. It works for this, but
Speaker 1: to nothing else. I'm asking you. You're the one that
Speaker 1: said it was an imagination thing. I'm just I'm shocked
Speaker 1: that you believe that.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it was an imagination. That he came
Speaker 2: back blind. There's a whole there's there's a whole arc
Speaker 2: to this, bro. And for somebody to change from murdering
Speaker 2: the followers of Christ to being the most prolific follower
Speaker 2: of Christ that never actually physically met him, I think
Speaker 2: that that's a little bit more than committing to the bit. Bro.
Speaker 1: How did he end up in jail?
Speaker 2: He was arrested for speaking about Christian things in a
Speaker 2: time where that was against the law and being heretical,
Speaker 2: the same reason why Jesus was crucified and why his
Speaker 2: disciples were murdered.
Speaker 1: Again, I mean, are we supposed to interpret this as
Speaker 1: literal or is there a story behind it? There's something
Speaker 1: to gain from the story that's literal.
Speaker 2: And again, you could look at the Jewish sources that
Speaker 2: recognize Saul of Tarsus then becoming one of these new
Speaker 2: christ followers and all this, and they arrested him. There's
Speaker 2: a whole thing to this.
Speaker 1: Yes, because the Jews have never butchered numbers.
Speaker 2: No I'm not saying that, But what numbers the enemies
Speaker 2: of Christianity of the day and age, the ones that
Speaker 2: crucified Christ and all that stuff. You have to look
Speaker 2: at the whole picture to gain it, dude. You can't
Speaker 2: look just one source. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Look, I understand your your point of view. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to say that none of this is real. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying there is real. There is like a real
Speaker 1: possibility that it's not real. That's all I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: we can agree. We're just gonna agree to disagree. Every
Speaker 1: time we get on this topic. We have to just
Speaker 1: go there. We like, that's the only way out of
Speaker 1: that conversation. Merlin, your thoughts on this, and then we
Speaker 1: got to wrap up.
Speaker 4: Okay, So.
Speaker 14: To you kind of have to believe Jesus, like to
Speaker 14: believe in the metaphysical and the spiritual and all that
Speaker 14: stuff like ghosts.
Speaker 4: Being able to astro project.
Speaker 14: You kind of have to go with like Jesus was
Speaker 14: could have been really real and the history sense he
Speaker 14: was real.
Speaker 15: Like that's just proved facts.
Speaker 14: But at the same time, there is a strange correlation
Speaker 14: between what you're saying, Like what I thought was interesting
Speaker 14: is the virgin birth always leading to a very virtuous man,
Speaker 14: like in all these religions.
Speaker 23: That do predate the Bible, And what why is it?
Speaker 23: Why is that correlation? Like the how is pretty fascinating,
Speaker 23: But yeah, it's so cute mom and death start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we always we always butt heads on this,
Speaker 1: but it's fun because Jacob learns a little bit about
Speaker 1: my perspective, I learned a little bit about him. We're
Speaker 1: not going to be throwing down. That's that's never going
Speaker 1: to happen. It's just brotherly love, sharing difference of opinion
Speaker 1: and we love each other.
Speaker 15: And it's a beautiful conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no shade thrown. I mean, unless somebody interprets
Speaker 1: something the wrong way, then a little bit of shade
Speaker 1: is thrown. But like we're not going there. I love
Speaker 1: I do love these conversations. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I don't like feeling like I'm coming at you
Speaker 1: because that that's not what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think you are. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't. It's you and me disic agree
Speaker 2: on this on like a fundamental level. I acknowledge history.
Speaker 2: You don't believe pretty much anything that claims to be history.
Speaker 2: So I mean we we have very differing opinions on this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I stand on that. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of history I just don't buy, which you know, I've
Speaker 1: kind of to be honest. If it wasn't for that,
Speaker 1: this show probably would have never started. Real history lies
Speaker 1: in general. Okay, anyway, Sam, can we get to send off?
Speaker 1: After you cough your goddamn lungs up, God, catch your breath.
Speaker 1: You got it. We believe in you, Samuel Recuperate. It's
Speaker 1: in you, a.
Speaker 10: Chesty puller wherever you are, and much left of the
Speaker 10: Greek bards, blessed be the chaos.
Speaker 1: Much love, sam less would be good night, chesty Poehler
Speaker 1: Jacob your final send.
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