Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to the Poker Go Podcast. My
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w s AP predictions, sir? Are you ready? Never never ready?
Never ready? But I will I will admit that I'm
fully unprepared for this as well. Okay, just because just
trying to set up all this sort of stuff. Get ready,
it's been a week whatever, but it is what it is.
I think the first question that we have to hit
on is something that we've already touched on once, but
it's worth touching on again. We're probably gonna touch on
it a few times throughout the summer. It's probably gonna
be one of those topics that not only us, but
several media outlets hit on multiple times. I'm sure the man,
mister Phil Helmeth's gonna be asked, I'll say, a dozen times,
maybe two dozen times over the summer. Is Phil Hellmuth
gonna play the twenty twenty five ws BE main event?
Of course, I mean, I'm right with you. I also
think yes, yeah, I mean I think it's too big
to miss, and he's got it. He's got an out
as far as I'm concerned, Meaning when it comes to
that time, he can be like, did you guys really
think I was gonna miss the exactly the biggest event
in the world, like YadA, YadA, YadA whatever, like you know,
I mean, and honestly he should just do a day
to entry and that's that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not going to turn down being in
the spotlight, doing his entrance like normal. But yeah, most
likely I would expect the day two and then yeah,
he does have those. He does have that backup plan
of saying I.
Speaker 1: Was just drugging with you guys. Come on, yeah, you
think you think you know? Mister miss you know is
gonna miss the biggest event in the world, the one
that I won way back when that I almost won
multiple times. No, it's no, he's not missing it. And
if he does miss it, I mean I'll be shocked,
but I don't. I don't think he's gonna miss it.
All right. Speaking of Phil Helmuth, let's stick on the
poker brad himself. How many gold bracelets is he gonna
win this summer? Is he gonna win any? In your
head you are mister phil hammis I am wearing a
Phil HOMEI shit, oh my god, I didn't even realize.
Just get that, Jesus Lord.
Speaker 2: The head says no, but the hat says yes, he's
gonna get one.
Speaker 1: I mean no zero. You say he's gonna get one. Yeah, okay,
he's not gonna guess he's not going to get in Roy.
I mean part of me says, now I know phil
Hammyth has obviously made a career of crushing the World
Series of Poker, and I know he's a very good player,
right at least when it comes to like basic B threshold. Now,
can he hang with some of the high rollers and whatnot? No,
but he also kind of like skips those fields, right,
Like he plays in the stuff that it certainly caters
to his strengths, which I think benefits him. But One,
it's very hard to win a bracelet, Okay. Two, I'm
just going with the fact that if he is ultimately
going to make a big stink about how long tournaments are,
how tiring they are, how he's getting older, all this
sort of stuff, then all right, maybe you're just mentally
not ready for the summer ahead. And I'm gonna say
that's gonna affect your game and you're not gonna win
any bracelets. Now. Of course, if he does win a bracelet, amazing, right,
But I'm gonna I'm gonna say no. I'm going to
say no, he's going to be stuck for another year
without winning one. So we'll see. But maybe we'll get
a blow over two not on the list. Speaking of that,
will we get a helmet blow up, and what I
mean by that is like one that kind of goes
viral within the space.
Speaker 2: I think you have to rework the question and say
what date will we have with the fail helm with
blow up?
Speaker 1: I think that's more important. We're definitely gonna have one on.
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be when some idiot beats him in
a hand with fourteen left in a.
Speaker 1: But I don't just I don't just want like a
guy to beat him in a hand and he says
a couple of things to him whatever I want, like
full blow up, like full like ranting. Maybe doesn't have
to be as crazy as that time in No Game
in the Future when he threw the mic pack, but
you know heih Sike spoke. We're kind of storming out
of the set, like you know, something like that, you know,
possibly like like one of those blow ups where people
start questioning if he should be penalized. Like that's kind
of a line, okay, you know, yeah, June twelfth day,
June twelfth, all right, yeah, no big deal. We're like
thirteen days into the wab boom. We're gonna be calling
for half if you get a penalty. I think we'll
have some verbal tie rades. I just don't think we'll
go as far anymore. Like I feel like in kind
of recent years he's kind of tiptotal a little bit
towards it, but he ultimately hasn't got to the point
where there's kind of that that outrage on social media
within the community when I'd be like, hey, how come
he doesn't get a penalty? What the heck is this?
All that sort of stuff. So we'll have, you know,
various tie raids. You know, he'll probably do some ranting,
some some calling of names under his breath, but I
don't think we're gonna get full Phil Helmuth blowout, So
I'll say no to that one. Phil Helmuth is a
former ws AP main event champion. Will we see a
former man ement champion reach the final table of the
WSP Man Event this year? Oh?
Speaker 2: I thought this was going to be of any pricelet event?
Speaker 1: Well I was. I changed it on the fly, and
I was gonna then ask any final table after? So
I'll say first man event, No, yeah, obviously, no, okay,
now any final yes, Phil Hellmuth w eighteenth the price letter, Well, yeah,
that tracks obviously, I would say, funny, I was the
line's got to be like three and a half three
and a half under. Not a lot of them play
that much, but toking just Vegas main event. To clarify, Yeah,
knock are doing it like all this other stuff, but
like there's not I mean, they play, but like, okay,
let's take I would probably start with like Chris Moneymaker
because like pre Chris Moneymaker, they probably don't play a
whole ton if at all, you know, like like look
look pre Chris Moneymaker, Robert Varconi, huck Seed, like they
don't even play, you know, for one event. But Chris Moneymaker, right,
he plays a couple of events, but it's a couple
you know. He like he kind of comes out, maybe
does one kind of little stint, maybe goes back home,
comes out for the main like that sort of thing.
So it's not high volume. I think if someone like
Greg Merson right also only comes out for like various
stints at times, you know, a very good player, yes,
but but doesn't put the volume in, then you have
on the East Coast somewhere. So shed liquidity WSV dot com. Okay,
we're not counting that's as final title. Oh no, no,
these questions refer to only the live stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just easier that way. Come on, either way,
here's who I'm betting. I'm betting on Ryan Race, Joe mckaon.
Speaker 1: Is okay. Are they all going to be here playing
like a full volume? I think so.
Speaker 2: Joe Hashim's gonna come out of play a few events, obviously, a.
Speaker 1: Few events, A few events. He's good. He's gonna play
like three plow turns. He's good.
Speaker 2: He's not good that he'll find one of those. Obviously,
Phil Helm with uh, you know, Jim Besh will play
some of those mixed game ones that you know, and
they get one hundred and thirty players, so much easier
to make a fundampy that one. I like my three
and a half, but I was taking too account online.
Speaker 1: I think somebody will, but I'm taking under on your
three and a half. As it relates to the live realm,
I think somebody will again make a final table live
at the Way this year, but I think it's gonna
be hard for you know, several of them, just because
I don't think that the volume is there. You know,
you even have people like Daniel Wineman recently responding to
your tweet basically saying that like he's not playing the
main event. Does that mean he's not playing at all?
I mean he seems like a guy who was kind
of trying to get his way out of poker to
begin with. Yeah, and then he happens to rip off
the main for ten million, and now it's just like,
all right, get out of jail free cards. I got
ten million dollars.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna whatever I want for the rest of you
being a dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah for real, all right? What is the deepest a
former w S A p main event winner will go
in the main event this year? Is that final table?
Is that final three tables? Top one hundred? Just in
the money? What's it going to be?
Speaker 2: I'll take top hundred easily, top one easily easily.
Speaker 1: We should bet this stuff. I'm not taking top one hundred.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think top twenty seven is pretty hot.
But I'll take top one.
Speaker 1: Hundred, all right. I'm going top five hundred, okay, And
I just don't think, you know, hard to just get
the top one hundred of the made event. That is insane, insane?
How many former mainument champions are gonna play twelve Yeah,
it's a good. Yeah, Well, we think Helmut is gonna play,
You'll probably get money Maker, You're probably get Jacobson.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Tomayo. Yes, yes, we're gonna rule that Wineman, right,
that's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's what. That's what he responded. By
the way, everyone Tim has been putting out these like
stats and stuff on Twitter one a day as it
relates to the ever speak great stuff, absolutely great stuff.
But but you put one out there about former main
event champions like cashing the next year because and then
Dan Weinman said like, I won't be busting. He basically
was insinuating he's not playing the main event. He just
sound like he was gonna win at all.
Speaker 2: No, but like it's yeah, well, Tomayo, Espen Karai, Damien
Selas and Sound will play.
Speaker 1: Damon's loss might honestly be a lock for the top
one hundred. He always runs deep stuff.
Speaker 2: He'll play right six, Queen Win seven McKee and a
Jacobsen nine, Race Merson, that's up to eleven, Jaccatta twelve,
Yang and Gold probably God Goal as.
Speaker 1: That new sponsorship. Yeah, right, so that means he should
be in there. Money Maker fifty eight, it's more like
eighteen probably because then you're gonna get some randoms, like
you know, whoever that gets in money makers for sure
usually plays Johnny Chamberry Johnson. Yeah, he didn't even name Helmut.
We think he's gonna play, even though he said he
wasn't gonna play. Does he play? Excuse me? He plays
the main event at least? Yeah, I mean, I don't know,
it's probably closer to eighteen nineteen something like that. What
is the deepest a female player is going to go
in the main event this year? Of course, last year
we had Kristen fox and what was a twelfth, thirteenth
something like that, super super deep almost made the final table.
So how far is a female player going to run
this year?
Speaker 2: Further than a main event champion? But top one hundred still.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got final three table? Whoa Okay. I think
there's just a lot of really really really solid women
who play poker these days, A lot of them, like
I think, forefront of everyone's mind, as we just mentioned
Kristin Foxen. But there are a lot of really really
really efing good female poker players, like even ones that
you don't necessarily know, like they kind of they get
their time in the spotlight during the Ladies Championship. You
watch that stream, you follow the coverage, and you're like, Wow,
holy hell, Like this person has played extremely well, you know.
So there's a lot of just really really good female
poker players, and you know, I think that they can
do extremely well in the main events. So I'm gonna
go final three tables. And I'm also going to say
it's probably gonna be someone we don't necessarily know about.
I mean, maybe we've heard the name here or there,
but it's not going to be not that it can't
be a Maria j or Kristin Foxen, you know, those
sort of big names. I just I think it's going
to be more of an unknown female player who kind
of has her breakout moment on poker's biggest stage. So
That's what I'm going with there, Will any woman win
an open field bracelet event? Yes, and know the Ladies
Championship does not count as an open field No, this
is alive. I'm still gonna say yes. I feel like
we'll get one. I also say yes again going back
to what I said about the waspy main event. There
are just too many very good, capable, successful female poker
players who can do it. You know, so I think that, yeah,
we're we're going to see it happen, all right? Moving on,
will or sorry? Who will be the top performing high
roller across the series? Now, you and I talked a
little bit before we hopped on air here. Top performing
is kind of open to interpretation, you know. The way
that I kind of classify it is like if you
were to say, let's say, five, ten, fifteen years from now, oh,
twenty twenty five, doubasp which high roller was the best
or had the best series? Boom, you just named the person.
Like That's kind of of how it's you know, and
it doesn't have to be exact, but it can kind
of be like you can you can make the argument
in a way, you know. So that's what I'm going
with there. I go a bit on film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I take my boy, a PGT boy Alex Foxen.
Speaker 1: Same. I got Alex Foxen too. He's been doing extremely
well both on the PGT this season also now currently
over in Triton, he's doing very well. He won an
event already, He's had some deep runs, so I like
that form as well. For Alex Foxen, you obviously know
he's gonna put in the volume at the dovasit B
he's going to play all all sorts of buy ins.
I actually think that, you know, just going off what
we talked about last time in that article for Polker
dot Org, I believe he mentioned kind of along the
lines of like a Philhamuth, you know, just hinting at
sort of the stamina aspect, the health aspect of things,
where he might focus a little bit less this year
on smaller buying events and really focus towards the higher
buying events and like, you know, just make sure that
he's one hundred percent every time he goes into one
of those big buy in field. So so yeah, I
think Alex Foxon is gonna have a very good summer.
And you know, of course he's an incredible player. So
that makes sense. Of the top ten ranked PGT players
right now, which I'm gonna rely on you to list
them in a second, So pull up that list, mister
PGT commissioner, Who's gonna be the best performer this wsop?
So who do we got? Well? Current top ten?
Speaker 2: Eric Blair in order, Alex fox and China, Raim Kristen Foxen,
Joey Weisman, Nick Schulman, Daniel Nogrando, Jesse Lernis, Shannon Shaw,
and Jim Callapee. I'm gonna take Alex foxon again. You
just gotta keep gonna keep betting on that man.
Speaker 1: I'm also taking Alex foxon again. I mean, how can
you not if you name him already for the previous question,
I think you have to name him right now as well.
So Alex take a second person.
Speaker 2: Let's take a second person then, Okay, I'm gonna go
with Jesse Linis, just because he's having a great just
like Alex's great series of tried and doing really well.
He's he's primed for another big world series. Shannon Shore
good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's, you know, talking about form like
he's been just crushing this year. So I expect Channon
Shore to have a really really big summer. Predict one
player to win multiple bracelets in twenty twenty five. I'm
going to take a guy live only, live only, Buddy
live only, this is rigged.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a guy that is going to
play the most events with the smallest fields and has
won multiple bracelets in the same year.
Speaker 1: And you don't where I'm going. I think won a.
Speaker 2: Pretty big event right here in the studio earlier this year,
taking Chad eaves Sledge.
Speaker 1: That's not where I thought you were going. But I
thought you were going to go with Chris Brewer.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's rushed up. Chad eaves Sledge plays all
the mix He plays the No Limit high Rollers, the
p Loo high Rollers. Also does play online. But you know,
obviously that's not going to count anymore. He's my pretty
shouldn't win multiple bracelets just like he did a couple
years ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. I'm going with kind of an
off the radar pick, but it is in a similar
vein of a mixed game player. But I believe he
can also play the big beat games at least with
enough competency to you know, probably be a favorite over
the majority of the fields that you get out at
the WSP. And that's David Funkhauser. Okay, so I like
that one. Yeah, a little bit off the board there,
but I got Funkhauser. Give us three picks for WSP
Player of the Year. We're gonna pick a favorite, We're
gonna pick a mid mid tier contender, and we're gonna
pick one long shot.
Speaker 2: My favorite is is Shuan dy and the main reason
is I think the I think there's only a few
favorites when it comes to WSP Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think some of the other ones. My how
many do you think there are? Just give me like
a number. Is it more like three year, is it
more like fifteen?
Speaker 2: I feel like it's three. I think it's the Grano.
It could just to but Nograno and Deep, I really
they're They're tier one of all WSP Player of the
Year candidates, and then you have a kind of a
bigger tier two, which is like I think the Shaman's,
the osmas Is, Michael Manchek, all those kind of people
that are going to play big schedules and play events
where they can accue a lot of points, and then
you have basically everyone else. So I think Nograno, after
winning a bracelet last year, pressure might not be there.
I could be wrong, but I think Deep always wants
to win. This is always going to push to try
and win one, two, three, four bracelets, win another Player
of the Year title and really stamp his legacy. So,
Sean Dee's my my favorite, pick about yours?
Speaker 1: I'm not taking a favorite. What do you mean You're
not take your favorite. I'm in charge of the podcast
and we have twenty five K fantasy coming up, so
I'm going to abstain right now. Oh my, but once
you see who we select you, that will be my favorite.
So stay tuned for a couple of days. I can
give the opponents to any sort of edge. You know,
there's supposedly a lot of new teams. I don't know
any of who the heck these guys are listening, so
I'm not I'm not giving my favorite. Did you only
you only gave favorite? Okay, I'm gonna say my mid
tier then, Okay, Bryce Jockey interests. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: He's got a mid year right, No, No, it's good.
I never really would have consider him. He plays a lot,
plays a lot of plays all the games. He I
think he cares a crap ton like he wants to win.
He's super competitive, you know.
Speaker 1: I think in some ways he's kind of got something
to prove, kind of monkey off the back. Ish. You know,
you had the whole bad beat several years ago versus
josh Aria, you had finishing second last summer to Negron.
You like, you know, it's kind of like at some
point I feel like Bryce is gonna rip off, like
he's gonna have like a Scott sever esque summer. Yeah,
you know, so, I mean not that he's like any
sort of guarantee to win. Of course, it's very hard
to win over his Spy Player of the Year, Yes,
but you know Bryce can get as hot as anyone,
as you mention, and he plays all the games. He'll
play big and especially like he's the type of guy
who kind of similar to what we saw a couple
of years ago with Dan Zach. If he has a
big summer early, maybe he's like, oh, I gotta get
in the two fifty k. You gotta get the hunter
k like high role, Like I gotta start, you know,
sell some pieces and play every big thing for sure,
But you got mid tier mid tier.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ride my pick from earlier Chad Evesledge. I
think that's I think he qualifies for mid tier. If
I think he's gonna win a couple of bracelets, he's
likely to play a little maybe play a little bit bigger.
And when I say that, I'm talking about the hundred
kplow one hundred k no limit. I don't see him
getting into two fifty k. But We also said that
about Dan Zach, So he's one that could definitely make
a run at trying to win Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: We got long shot, got this one's he could anybody.
Speaker 2: I don't, I no idea, but if I'm really thinking
about it, I think he could consider this guy a
long shot.
Speaker 1: Another mixed guy.
Speaker 2: Benny Glasser, No, no, you're not a long shot.
Speaker 1: No, he's in he's he's a mid tia. You think
he might be favorite? Get out of here? Okay, what
are you talking about? Who's gonna play as much Volney
and like all the big stuff as Benny.
Speaker 2: I feel like everyone out of like a twelve people
then all technically lung shots.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's kind of the point. You got,
you pick one. Let me think David Fuonkauser okay, who
already said. I mean it's part long shot in that
I think it's hard to win Player of the Year,
or at least be a true favorite if you're not
gonna step up and like play the fifty k's, play
the twenty five k's, like all that sort of stuff. Like, yeah,
a phone causer might get into the fifty k PPC,
but is he gonna play a fifty K PLO. I
don't know he's gonna play a twenty five k like
like that sort of stuff, which I think, you know,
it obviously gives you a really good chance to contend
for POI if you're in those tournaments, which I think
the favorite guys are, Like the favorite guys are like
a lock to play two fifty to five K, like
four shore, like whatever's happening that day, and then maybe
they splashed around in some of those smaller stuff depending
on what it is. So so that's how I kind
of attack it there. And then also it's part long
shot because like I feel like if David Funk collser
ultimately wins, like the common poker verse might be like
who's that, Like we know who David Funk calls is.
You know, he's obviously plays, but it's like who's that?
You know, So it's kind of like long shot, slash
like breakout type of person to fit this little criteria.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of someone that if it was
a betting board on DraftKings, they wouldn't be listed.
Speaker 1: Another one I thought of going back to something I
said someone I said earlier is Shannon Shure. I was
thinking he's like a long shot, like, you know, he
might step it step it up now with the run
he's on play a bunch of the twenty five k's,
you know, but like I wouldn't say that he's like
any sort of favorite to win a POI, Right.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna follow him that kind of shout and
show group of players and take Steven song. Yeah over
in Asia right now?
Speaker 1: I would what does that term with the Lord the Lords?
Speaker 2: It's like a feel like a try and off, like
a like a small Chatten series. But you know what
he could rip off, you know, the million maker. Then
he could final table the twenty five k no lemon
hold him. He could win an online bracer which counts
for Player of the Year. So he has got a
few different avenues to getting there, and I would definitely say.
Speaker 1: He is a long shot to win Player of the Year.
Which mixed game specialist is going to have the biggest summer?
I think I know who You're going to save a
good I got to continue chats and I'm also going
to continue David Funks. Okay, so there we go. Which
poker vlogger or influencer will make the biggest noise on
the Felt this summer, and you cannot say Daniel Legrano
is noise on the Felt results or is that is
that breaking a selfie stick? Yes, I mean, I guess,
open to interpretation. I implied felt, but you can I go.
Speaker 2: Ahead. I'm going to take Ryan to Paula. I know
he is having a baby. Congratulations isn't going to play?
I don't know, but we have to remember baby run good,
Baby Ron Good. He's also backed by Negrano, meaning he
can probably play a.
Speaker 1: Big Wait, when did he get back to byground? Is
that like an open thing.
Speaker 2: That's he talks about on his vog all the time?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does vlog every day, so that's he's making
noise in that aspect. On the YouTube streets, he'll be
playing a bunch of events. I would expect he's my pick.
I went down the list of vloggers, and it's hard
to know how much they're gonna play, how much they're
gonna how much content they're gonna make. It's actually kind
of a tough one to pick. I thought, But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got brad On. If you watched his recent vlog,
he talked about how hard he's gonna be going this summer,
he's also got some he oh, he already won one
of those golden tickets for Club WPT. How kind of sketchy,
but you know he already he already won one. So basically,
if he wins, then one of those tournaments, he wins
an additional million dollars. So there's that. But then I
think he also said, and I mean, you guys can
check the vlog to make sure that I'm not speaking nonsense,
because I very well might be. But if he wins
like something else, like another bracelet event, he's gonna basically
give one hundred k away. Rampage is doing some of that. Yeah,
So I mean, like Brad has talked about, basically, he's
like all in on the summer. He's gonna be going hard.
So so yeah, I mean he fits. He fits, you
know obviously poker vlogger and influencer. So yeah, I'm going
with Brad Owen for that one. Now, this next one.
In my short pre episode prep, I wasn't able to
come up with a name, so I'll see if I
can think of one on the fly, but I'm gonna
throw it to you first. Predict one mainstream athlete or
celebrity to make a splash in a gold bracelet event.
Doesn't have to win, but you know, go deep, generate
some good buzz. The thing that I think of is
back at the rio ws BE main event, Richard Seymour
was running deep and it started to really get legs
with like outside poker media like that sort of stuff, like,
oh my god, like three time Super Bowl champ Richard Seymour.
He's like running deep in the biggest poker tournament in
the world, so so that type of like but it's
maybe not that big, you know, because it's obviously hard
to achieve that, but you know, just starting to really really,
you know, pick up some buzz. Who's it going to be?
Speaker 2: I think Richard Simos easy to consensus pick.
Speaker 1: It is he does he play that much anymore? That's
my like. Since he got like kind of looped into
this Raiders ownership group, he like it's been more out
of the spotlight.
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna pick him the I'm gonna take a
sucker legend.
Speaker 1: Neyma still dealing with some injuries, so every time to
play some poker.
Speaker 2: Perfect time to play some sold the buzz when he
was here and he.
Speaker 1: Cashan what like the one, and you know, so he
was at my table, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he'll likely play a few events, and
the name and the stardom that he that he brings
will will create some kind of buzz for the World
Series of Poker.
Speaker 1: I'm going with your boy, Kalais Campbell. The reason I
say that is because I think I feel like he's
the He's the one person that's a mainstream athlete or
celebrity that I feel like is there every.
Speaker 2: Year trying to check if he's signed to an NFL team.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, I feel like a
lot of these guys, like I have no idea they're
even going to show up. Yeah, I mean a bunch
of them will show up for the main events, right,
But like you know, I mean you did that interview
with Kalay a couple of years ago. He's like, I
want to win a race, like I want to I'm
super competitive, Like I want to do that sort of stuff.
So I feel like we see him out there. You know,
I was thinking about possibly naming our friend Nick Wright,
but I think he's only playing like three tournaments.
Speaker 2: So Kalays Campbell just re signed with Arizona Codinals who
boom short drive away buddy, Okay, I just drived that
last week and it's not that short. It's not that fun.
Speaker 1: Oh he's got he's got the money to but he's first.
Speaker 2: En off where it's you know, whether he's got some
RTA's or some Sama camp obligations. He is a forty
five hour flight away or a five hour drive.
Speaker 1: So, uh, that's a good pick by you. That's right,
all right? Name I added this one. I don't know
if you saw it, but name a first time WSP
Bracele winner. Easy Alan Kesla. Oh Jesus Christ, No, not happening.
I got sewn Winter good one. He's freaking dou Yeah.
We got so burned last year in that freaking two
hundred and fifty k high roller his kings Taylor Vron
Krigenberg's kings with like they really like nine or ten
or eleven left or something like that. It was a
massive pot. I mean it is burned into my brain
that if Winter just wins that pot, he wins the tournament. Yeah,
and it changes like everything for us in terms of
fantasy and and all that sort of stuff. So I
got Winter. I mean, it's time he's gonna He's not
gonna put in like the biggest volume, but I say
every ten K plus Nola ma Ath hold him and
PLO tournament, he's gonna be in there. We obviously know
how hard it is to kill Shawn Winter in a
poker tournament. Yeah, like and and you know he can
play extremely, extremely well. So I got Sean Winter is finally,
finally gonna do it. And when you have additions like
the hunter k PLO, that's right up Sewan Winter, you know.
So so there we go, Sean Winter. I'm looking at
you for first time. W sphegle brace winner. All right,
moving on to a batch of questions that have to
do with prize pools and field sizes at the twenty
twenty five WIP. First up, of course, we got to
look at the ws AP main event. Will it break
the field size record which was ten and twelve entries
from last year.
Speaker 2: I don't want to bet against this number, but I
feel like I have to with everything that's going on
in this country and some of the travel restrictions, So
I just I don't want to. My head says I
have to. My heart says, don't. Don't be an idiot,
you know, I always bet the overs here. So I'm
going to say that we, you know, we fall a
little short.
Speaker 1: I'm somewhat aligned with you until two days ago or yesterday,
when bitcoin is now at an all time high again,
so we know how invested the poker community is into cryptocurrency.
Speaker 2: I don't think that affects the main event as much
as it affects like the two fifty k or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that is true, because because the main event
is you know, it's it's one ten k bolton, that's it,
versus something with re entries. Yeah, yeah, I can.
Speaker 2: I didn't make that much money the last few days.
It doesn't really change how I play if I'm going to.
Speaker 1: I think I'm a no. It's just and it's not
like it's not like this is a no oh my god,
they're going to get six thousand, you know, like that
sort of thing. No, I mean, this is just a
I think it's just really hard to achieve that. I
agree with you on a lot of the stuff that's happening.
I think kind of generally speaking, poker feels slightly down
in terms of field sizes, not like anything big or
alarming or whatever. It's just kind of like just like
leveled off a little bit. So I think ten and
twelve is super super hard to achieve. I think it's great,
but I think they're going to fall slightly short, slightly short,
and then I would anticipate that things pick back up
next year, right, So that that's kind of how I'm
thinking thinking through this one. Do you have a prediction
for field size? Like me, give me a number.
Speaker 2: I take like ten thousand and than seventeen.
Speaker 1: I got niney nine and ninety two. Okay, so I
mean we're pretty close in terms of, you know, slightly
below last year. Extremely good number, you know, is there
is there a number? So would you be like, right
on a scale of one to ten, how surprised would
you be if they broke the record? I wouldn't be
that surprised to be.
Speaker 2: One to ten, ah and being the most surprised.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten being oh my god, what the hell this
is insane? Like a four? Yeah, I'm like a six.
Maybe what's the number where you're like, wow, that's bad
because I don't think you and I like you're at
tenenty seventeen. I'm at nine thousand, nine or ninety two.
I would never say that, we would say that's very good.
Speaker 2: But from from my perspective is different to what WSP's perspective, right,
I think WSP's perspective would be anything sub ten thousand
is bad.
Speaker 1: I think, come on, that's what you're playing with one
hundred and twelve entries. That's not even a lie. I'm saying.
That's how I think they may view it.
Speaker 2: Personally, I think there's a world where we get eighty
eight hundred, eighty five hundred. Anything below that is like, oh,
this is this is not great. But we're going to
have a I think we'll have a pretty good idea
in the first few weeks as the World Series starts
and we start comparing field sizes to previous years.
Speaker 1: We'll ook at.
Speaker 2: Different buyers, and we'll see whether where it's trending, if
it's trending the same or trending significantly under us or
hopefully just significantly over. We can readjust these lines.
Speaker 1: I think the I think sub eight thousand is for
me personally as wow, that's bad. I think anything over
eight thousand for a ten K poker tournament is still
an insane accomplishment. Yeah, Like, I just don't care what
anyone says. I don't care if you got ten and
twelve last year. I still think that's a wild, wild
number to get, you know, especially when it's a freezer, Like,
it's just to me, that's incredible. Now, of course people
are gonna look at it and they're gonna be like,
oh my god, they're twenty percent down. Oh yeah, what's
going on whatever? Like you know, first year, Gigi owned
the thing. What the heck? You know? But no, so
while I do think it's going to be ever so
slightly down, like it's going to take a lot for
me to be like, wow, that's horribly bad. Yeah type
of thing. All right, how many million dollar first place
prizes are going to be awarded this summer? I'll let
you answer this. Okay, how about this. I'm gonna give
you what it was last year? There was sixteen. Do
you think it'll be more or less?
Speaker 2: Well, it's fifteen the year before sixteen last year, but
you already you know, of course you do. Just forging
stack guy, I'm gonna go it's going to be more.
Take at least seventy eight, mainly because more events. We're
adding one hundred k plot that's going to be a
million dollar first prize. If we predict some of these
events to go down, Okay, maybe we we chrop onnder that.
We did have one event last year that had nine
hundred and seventy five K for first I believe I
was the one Michael Rucker one, so that could easily
go out. We could have eighteen. But yeah, I think
we get more than last.
Speaker 1: Yea, I'm going less, I'm going fifteen. Okay, I just think,
you know, some of these events might be cutting it
a little bit close. Like I kind of wonder about
the PPC, to be honest, I mean that's kind of close.
You have the Monster Stack was one million, ninety eight thousand,
you got the well they don't have and I know
you said the Hunter k Poo, which I also thought of,
but they don't have that three thousand dollars mid Stakes Championship, yeah,
which was over. It was slightly over a million, one thousand,
one million and forty one thousand, so like, you know,
that's a wash there. I kind of wonder about this
ten thousand dollars Mystery Bounty, the one that Matthew Lambreck
won that was slightly over. You know, you have you're
going to get the main event. Of course, right, you're
gonna have the Millionaire Maker. That's a lock because it's guaranteed.
You're also going to have a guarantee with the mystery million.
Speaker 2: So add the twenty five k half and half. I
feel like that could easily you know, we've seyen the
popularity of plo and rollers, that could easily be a
seven figa first prize right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I just think we're going to see
kind of some hits here there, So that's that's where
I'm at. But it'll probably be right around the same
number overall, so I don't think it's too crazy. Now.
One thing that is that is working against this prediction
here for me is I think that the organizers will
push to get a million, like where they can. Yeah,
Like if let's say the Monster Stack is like nine
hundred and ninety three thousand, maybe they just push it
to a million.
Speaker 2: Depends on the event, But I think there is one
pay out there, Like check which one Michael Ruco won.
Speaker 1: He won those six max.
Speaker 2: Right how much though? Wasn't like nine to seventy five,
nine to twenty four? Yeah, Like when do they start?
That was the closest to a million without Yeah, when
do they start trying to get that one up? But
like is that event worthy of a fiddling with the payouts?
Speaker 1: I don't know. So what's interesting about that event? That
event always takes place like during the masbe main event,
but like deep into it. Yeah, like that's the one
I think Sean Dee won a couple of years ago. Obviously,
Michael Rocco won it last year. But what's interesting this
year is you have that WPT Venetian event. Sure five K,
four million dollar guaranteed. So is it kind of like
people are picking and choosing a little bit more. I
mean we'll see obviously, but you know, just kind of
worth worth throwing out there in that regard. But I
mean it's probably gonna be race writer on the same
number as last year. Which event is going to have
the largest prize pool outside of the waspre main event?
Speaker 2: You kind of touched on the price of bitcoin, So
I am going to bed on LOSSI as big as
prize pool.
Speaker 1: Which was the two fifty k. There's only one answer,
and it's super Hirola.
Speaker 2: Nothing beatsa well, mister millions is pretty close, lossie. But
I think there'll be some issues this year and we're
going to get onto that soon. But yeah, two fifty
k Superhirola.
Speaker 1: Will the Mystery Millions once again? He clip eighteen thousand entries. Oh,
by the way, I think it's gonna be the two
fifty k. Well that's not clear. So in terms of
the Mystery Millions eclipsing eighteen thousand entries, it had eighteen thousand,
one hundred and eighty eight in twenty twenty three and
then last year at eighteen thousand, four hundred and nine.
So is it going to They did add a flight, correct,
I believe I believe all those like millionaire maker Monster Stack.
I believe they all added a flight. Maybe I'm wrong there,
but I.
Speaker 2: Think they did. I'm honestly gonna take I'm going to
take on this, and the main reason it being was,
you know, we have issues with people traveling, so maybe
they only want to come for a limited amount of time.
They might they might save that for the main event time.
I also think there's gonna be a lot of issues
with WSP plus for that first couple of days where
you're gonna lose, You're gonna lose entries for people they're
gonna be they won't be able to get in on time,
they'll get in on light, they won't be able to
fire as many bullets as they want. So I feel
like we even with the additional flight, we may fall
slightly short.
Speaker 1: I think it gets over eighteen thousand. Again, I think
it's gonna be under last year, but it'll get over
eighteen thousand. I feel like that's just kind of the
benchmark for this tournament now, you know. I just think
that ultimately it's that extra flight is just going to
do wonders for this thing. So I mean, that's that's
where I'm at with that, and it might even set
a record, to be honest, with the extra flight turnout wise,
what's going to be the biggest surprise bracelet event. You
can take that however you want. You can spin it positive,
you can spin it negative. You know, when we come
out of this w SUP or when we hop on
a podcast that night or whatever it is, which event
are we going to be like kind of talking about
as it relates to the turnout the most.
Speaker 2: I think it's that new event. I think it's the
one hundred k PLO. It's going to have a massive field,
and I mean that's what I also have Yeah, I
think it's gonna be a top of the town that
where did these three hundred and sixty players find one
hundred K from?
Speaker 1: Something? I mean, I feel like every year for the
twenty five, at least in previous years, for the twenty
five KPLO, for the fifty k PLO, you and I
are walking through the field, where'd all these people come from? Yeah?
You know, like I feel like that's only going to
be the same sort of thing when it comes to
the Hunter K And like I think the hundre k
PLO is going to be bigger than the Hunter K
Nolanmit hold Them, which I think had one hundred and
twelve entries last year. You know, like I think this
Hunter k PLO is going to be banana. Yeah, I like,
I think the lines one fifty yeah take it over.
So so that's where I'm at with that. I don't
have anything else written down, so do you No, you
don't have any any other predictions. Overall, I think it's
going to be a really good summer. I can't remember
did we talk about this on the podcast. I think
we might have before, But I think w SP does
very well. You know, I think it's obviously the biggest
and the best in terms of in this industry. It
is the NFL, right, the main event is the Super
Bowl all that sort of stuff. I think there's a
greater potential that we're talking about other venues getting hurt
by various things, just most specifically that these other venues
have guarantees on every single tournament. Yeah, you know, like
the WSP has like they have like one tournament guarantee
that's the Gladiators of Poker with a three million dollar guarantee,
and then everything else is like, oh, we're guaranteeing first place.
So like the Millionaire Makers guarantee is really only a
million dollars, right, So you know stuff like that. So
I don't think the SPY is going to get hurt
in terms of like, oh my god, they misguarantees, Oh
my god, Overlailer all that sort of stuff. Thinksp is
going to be just plenty plenty fine. Of course, that's
where the common folk go. That's where the big fields are,
the recreationals, the shot takers, all that sort of stuff,
the dreamers, and then you know, we could just be
hearing things outside of that. I used to be like, oh,
like this venue has missed a whole bunch of guarantees,
or this might be just missed a whole bunch of guarantees.
And with the way that these venues now promote the overlays,
like you know, overlay Alert, would probably see a fair
bit of that, or at least we could see a
fair bit of that. I think there's there's potential for
it this year. So overall that's kind of where my
head is at. But well, yeah, I mean I think
it's going to be a really really good summer or
really really big summer, and I'm excited. I mean, we're
less than a week away. As we said, are we
doing a code word?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do one. Okay, what do you want it
to pay?
Speaker 1: You choose it. I'll say the code word will be
let's just use prediction. It's a long one. I know.
It's also one of those ones that I think some
people might misspell it, which is I think is good,
Like you gotta spell it right now, So prediction, google
it or chat GBT or do whatever you got to
do out there to get the spelling right for a
prediction that is the code word, and uh yeah, let's
rock and roll. I'm ready to go for Tim Duckworth,
the mullet no no sleeve wearing guy. I hope you
shoveled to the device to be like that. Please, for
the love of God, for be incredible for him, Tim Duckworth,
for me, Johnny Peters, We're out of here. We will
talk to you guys next time.
Speaker 2: Express