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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to the Poker Go Podcast. My

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name is Donnie Peters. It is Thursday, May twenty second,

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Tim and I are coming to you from the Poker

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Grot studio mister mulletman over here, as you guys can see,

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hopefully at least on our fresh new video. This is

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I should dress a little better. You look like a

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damn idiot for sure. So what we're gonna do today

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is we are going to run through some WSB predictions

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for the upcoming World Series of Poker that is now

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only a few days away. Starts on Tuesday, May twenty seven,

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so we are what five days away right now? You've

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been over there already. What's it look like? It? Does

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new house and stuff is like literally everywhere for a week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly as that is described. Ye? Okay, good, good, good,

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good as always.

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w s AP predictions, sir? Are you ready? Never never ready?

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Never ready? But I will I will admit that I'm

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fully unprepared for this as well. Okay, just because just

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trying to set up all this sort of stuff. Get ready,

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it's been a week whatever, but it is what it is.

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I think the first question that we have to hit

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on is something that we've already touched on once, but

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it's worth touching on again. We're probably gonna touch on

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it a few times throughout the summer. It's probably gonna

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be one of those topics that not only us, but

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several media outlets hit on multiple times. I'm sure the man,

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mister Phil Helmeth's gonna be asked, I'll say, a dozen times,

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maybe two dozen times over the summer. Is Phil Hellmuth

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gonna play the twenty twenty five ws BE main event?

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Of course, I mean, I'm right with you. I also

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think yes, yeah, I mean I think it's too big

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to miss, and he's got it. He's got an out

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as far as I'm concerned, Meaning when it comes to

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that time, he can be like, did you guys really

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think I was gonna miss the exactly the biggest event

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in the world, like YadA, YadA, YadA whatever, like you know,

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I mean, and honestly he should just do a day

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to entry and that's that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not going to turn down being in

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the spotlight, doing his entrance like normal. But yeah, most

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likely I would expect the day two and then yeah,

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he does have those. He does have that backup plan

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of saying I.

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Speaker 1: Was just drugging with you guys. Come on, yeah, you

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think you think you know? Mister miss you know is

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gonna miss the biggest event in the world, the one

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that I won way back when that I almost won

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multiple times. No, it's no, he's not missing it. And

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if he does miss it, I mean I'll be shocked,

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but I don't. I don't think he's gonna miss it.

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All right. Speaking of Phil Helmuth, let's stick on the

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poker brad himself. How many gold bracelets is he gonna

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win this summer? Is he gonna win any? In your

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head you are mister phil hammis I am wearing a

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Phil HOMEI shit, oh my god, I didn't even realize.

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Just get that, Jesus Lord.

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Speaker 2: The head says no, but the hat says yes, he's

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gonna get one.

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Speaker 1: I mean no zero. You say he's gonna get one. Yeah, okay,

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he's not gonna guess he's not going to get in Roy.

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I mean part of me says, now I know phil

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Hammyth has obviously made a career of crushing the World

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Series of Poker, and I know he's a very good player,

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right at least when it comes to like basic B threshold. Now,

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can he hang with some of the high rollers and whatnot? No,

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but he also kind of like skips those fields, right,

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to his strengths, which I think benefits him. But One,

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it's very hard to win a bracelet, Okay. Two, I'm

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just going with the fact that if he is ultimately

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going to make a big stink about how long tournaments are,

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how tiring they are, how he's getting older, all this

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sort of stuff, then all right, maybe you're just mentally

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not ready for the summer ahead. And I'm gonna say

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that's gonna affect your game and you're not gonna win

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any bracelets. Now. Of course, if he does win a bracelet, amazing, right,

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But I'm gonna I'm gonna say no. I'm going to

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say no, he's going to be stuck for another year

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without winning one. So we'll see. But maybe we'll get

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a blow over two not on the list. Speaking of that,

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will we get a helmet blow up, and what I

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mean by that is like one that kind of goes

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viral within the space.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to rework the question and say

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what date will we have with the fail helm with

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blow up?

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Speaker 1: I think that's more important. We're definitely gonna have one on.

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Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be when some idiot beats him in

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a hand with fourteen left in a.

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Speaker 1: But I don't just I don't just want like a

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guy to beat him in a hand and he says

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a couple of things to him whatever I want, like

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full blow up, like full like ranting. Maybe doesn't have

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to be as crazy as that time in No Game

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in the Future when he threw the mic pack, but

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you know heih Sike spoke. We're kind of storming out

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of the set, like you know, something like that, you know,

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possibly like like one of those blow ups where people

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start questioning if he should be penalized. Like that's kind

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of a line, okay, you know, yeah, June twelfth day,

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June twelfth, all right, yeah, no big deal. We're like

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thirteen days into the wab boom. We're gonna be calling

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for half if you get a penalty. I think we'll

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have some verbal tie rades. I just don't think we'll

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go as far anymore. Like I feel like in kind

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of recent years he's kind of tiptotal a little bit

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towards it, but he ultimately hasn't got to the point

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where there's kind of that that outrage on social media

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within the community when I'd be like, hey, how come

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he doesn't get a penalty? What the heck is this?

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various tie raids. You know, he'll probably do some ranting,

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some some calling of names under his breath, but I

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don't think we're gonna get full Phil Helmuth blowout, So

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I'll say no to that one. Phil Helmuth is a

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former ws AP main event champion. Will we see a

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former man ement champion reach the final table of the

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WSP Man Event this year? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I thought this was going to be of any pricelet event?

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Speaker 1: Well I was. I changed it on the fly, and

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I was gonna then ask any final table after? So

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I'll say first man event, No, yeah, obviously, no, okay,

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now any final yes, Phil Hellmuth w eighteenth the price letter, Well, yeah,

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that tracks obviously, I would say, funny, I was the

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line's got to be like three and a half three

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and a half under. Not a lot of them play

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that much, but toking just Vegas main event. To clarify, Yeah,

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knock are doing it like all this other stuff, but

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like there's not I mean, they play, but like, okay,

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let's take I would probably start with like Chris Moneymaker

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because like pre Chris Moneymaker, they probably don't play a

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whole ton if at all, you know, like like look

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look pre Chris Moneymaker, Robert Varconi, huck Seed, like they

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don't even play, you know, for one event. But Chris Moneymaker, right,

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he plays a couple of events, but it's a couple

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you know. He like he kind of comes out, maybe

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does one kind of little stint, maybe goes back home,

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comes out for the main like that sort of thing.

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Greg Merson right also only comes out for like various

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stints at times, you know, a very good player, yes,

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but but doesn't put the volume in, then you have

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on the East Coast somewhere. So shed liquidity WSV dot com. Okay,

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we're not counting that's as final title. Oh no, no,

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these questions refer to only the live stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just easier that way. Come on, either way,

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here's who I'm betting. I'm betting on Ryan Race, Joe mckaon.

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Speaker 1: Is okay. Are they all going to be here playing

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like a full volume? I think so.

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Speaker 2: Joe Hashim's gonna come out of play a few events, obviously, a.

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Speaker 1: Few events, A few events. He's good. He's gonna play

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like three plow turns. He's good.

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Speaker 2: He's not good that he'll find one of those. Obviously,

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Phil Helm with uh, you know, Jim Besh will play

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some of those mixed game ones that you know, and

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they get one hundred and thirty players, so much easier

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to make a fundampy that one. I like my three

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and a half, but I was taking too account online.

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Speaker 1: I think somebody will, but I'm taking under on your

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three and a half. As it relates to the live realm,

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I think somebody will again make a final table live

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at the Way this year, but I think it's gonna

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be hard for you know, several of them, just because

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I don't think that the volume is there. You know,

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you even have people like Daniel Wineman recently responding to

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your tweet basically saying that like he's not playing the

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main event. Does that mean he's not playing at all?

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I mean he seems like a guy who was kind

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of trying to get his way out of poker to

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begin with. Yeah, and then he happens to rip off

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the main for ten million, and now it's just like,

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all right, get out of jail free cards. I got

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ten million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna whatever I want for the rest of you

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being a dad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for real, all right? What is the deepest a

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former w S A p main event winner will go

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in the main event this year? Is that final table?

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Is that final three tables? Top one hundred? Just in

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the money? What's it going to be?

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Speaker 2: I'll take top hundred easily, top one easily easily.

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Speaker 1: We should bet this stuff. I'm not taking top one hundred.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think top twenty seven is pretty hot.

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But I'll take top one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred, all right. I'm going top five hundred, okay, And

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I just don't think, you know, hard to just get

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the top one hundred of the made event. That is insane, insane?

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How many former mainument champions are gonna play twelve Yeah,

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it's a good. Yeah, Well, we think Helmut is gonna play,

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You'll probably get money Maker, You're probably get Jacobson.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Tomayo. Yes, yes, we're gonna rule that Wineman, right,

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that's what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's what. That's what he responded. By

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the way, everyone Tim has been putting out these like

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stats and stuff on Twitter one a day as it

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relates to the ever speak great stuff, absolutely great stuff.

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But but you put one out there about former main

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event champions like cashing the next year because and then

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Dan Weinman said like, I won't be busting. He basically

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was insinuating he's not playing the main event. He just

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sound like he was gonna win at all.

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Speaker 2: No, but like it's yeah, well, Tomayo, Espen Karai, Damien

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Selas and Sound will play.

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Speaker 1: Damon's loss might honestly be a lock for the top

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one hundred. He always runs deep stuff.

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Speaker 2: He'll play right six, Queen Win seven McKee and a

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Jacobsen nine, Race Merson, that's up to eleven, Jaccatta twelve,

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Yang and Gold probably God Goal as.

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Speaker 1: That new sponsorship. Yeah, right, so that means he should

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be in there. Money Maker fifty eight, it's more like

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eighteen probably because then you're gonna get some randoms, like

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you know, whoever that gets in money makers for sure

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usually plays Johnny Chamberry Johnson. Yeah, he didn't even name Helmut.

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We think he's gonna play, even though he said he

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wasn't gonna play. Does he play? Excuse me? He plays

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the main event at least? Yeah, I mean, I don't know,

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it's probably closer to eighteen nineteen something like that. What

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is the deepest a female player is going to go

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in the main event this year? Of course, last year

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we had Kristen fox and what was a twelfth, thirteenth

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something like that, super super deep almost made the final table.

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So how far is a female player going to run

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this year?

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Speaker 2: Further than a main event champion? But top one hundred still.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got final three table? Whoa Okay. I think

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there's just a lot of really really really solid women

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who play poker these days, A lot of them, like

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I think, forefront of everyone's mind, as we just mentioned

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Kristin Foxen. But there are a lot of really really

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really efing good female poker players, like even ones that

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you don't necessarily know, like they kind of they get

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their time in the spotlight during the Ladies Championship. You

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watch that stream, you follow the coverage, and you're like, Wow,

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holy hell, Like this person has played extremely well, you know.

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So there's a lot of just really really good female

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poker players, and you know, I think that they can

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do extremely well in the main events. So I'm gonna

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go final three tables. And I'm also going to say

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it's probably gonna be someone we don't necessarily know about.

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I mean, maybe we've heard the name here or there,

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but it's not going to be not that it can't

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be a Maria j or Kristin Foxen, you know, those

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sort of big names. I just I think it's going

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to be more of an unknown female player who kind

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of has her breakout moment on poker's biggest stage. So

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That's what I'm going with there, Will any woman win

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an open field bracelet event? Yes, and know the Ladies

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Championship does not count as an open field No, this

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is alive. I'm still gonna say yes. I feel like

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we'll get one. I also say yes again going back

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to what I said about the waspy main event. There

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are just too many very good, capable, successful female poker

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players who can do it. You know, so I think that, yeah,

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we're we're going to see it happen, all right? Moving on,

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will or sorry? Who will be the top performing high

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roller across the series? Now, you and I talked a

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little bit before we hopped on air here. Top performing

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is kind of open to interpretation, you know. The way

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that I kind of classify it is like if you

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were to say, let's say, five, ten, fifteen years from now, oh,

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twenty twenty five, doubasp which high roller was the best

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or had the best series? Boom, you just named the person.

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Like That's kind of of how it's you know, and

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it doesn't have to be exact, but it can kind

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of be like you can you can make the argument

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in a way, you know. So that's what I'm going

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with there. I go a bit on film.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I take my boy, a PGT boy Alex Foxen.

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Speaker 1: Same. I got Alex Foxen too. He's been doing extremely

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well both on the PGT this season also now currently

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over in Triton, he's doing very well. He won an

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event already, He's had some deep runs, so I like

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that form as well. For Alex Foxen, you obviously know

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he's gonna put in the volume at the dovasit B

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he's going to play all all sorts of buy ins.

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I actually think that, you know, just going off what

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we talked about last time in that article for Polker

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dot Org, I believe he mentioned kind of along the

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lines of like a Philhamuth, you know, just hinting at

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sort of the stamina aspect, the health aspect of things,

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where he might focus a little bit less this year

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on smaller buying events and really focus towards the higher

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buying events and like, you know, just make sure that

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he's one hundred percent every time he goes into one

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of those big buy in field. So so yeah, I

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think Alex Foxon is gonna have a very good summer.

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And you know, of course he's an incredible player. So

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that makes sense. Of the top ten ranked PGT players

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right now, which I'm gonna rely on you to list

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them in a second, So pull up that list, mister

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PGT commissioner, Who's gonna be the best performer this wsop?

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So who do we got? Well? Current top ten?

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Speaker 2: Eric Blair in order, Alex fox and China, Raim Kristen Foxen,

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Joey Weisman, Nick Schulman, Daniel Nogrando, Jesse Lernis, Shannon Shaw,

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and Jim Callapee. I'm gonna take Alex foxon again. You

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just gotta keep gonna keep betting on that man.

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Speaker 1: I'm also taking Alex foxon again. I mean, how can

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you not if you name him already for the previous question,

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I think you have to name him right now as well.

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So Alex take a second person.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a second person then, Okay, I'm gonna go

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with Jesse Linis, just because he's having a great just

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like Alex's great series of tried and doing really well.

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He's he's primed for another big world series. Shannon Shore

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good one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's, you know, talking about form like

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he's been just crushing this year. So I expect Channon

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Shore to have a really really big summer. Predict one

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player to win multiple bracelets in twenty twenty five. I'm

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going to take a guy live only, live only, Buddy

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live only, this is rigged.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take a guy that is going to

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play the most events with the smallest fields and has

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won multiple bracelets in the same year.

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Speaker 1: And you don't where I'm going. I think won a.

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Speaker 2: Pretty big event right here in the studio earlier this year,

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taking Chad eaves Sledge.

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Speaker 1: That's not where I thought you were going. But I

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thought you were going to go with Chris Brewer.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's rushed up. Chad eaves Sledge plays all

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the mix He plays the No Limit high Rollers, the

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p Loo high Rollers. Also does play online. But you know,

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obviously that's not going to count anymore. He's my pretty

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shouldn't win multiple bracelets just like he did a couple

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years ago.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. I'm going with kind of an

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off the radar pick, but it is in a similar

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vein of a mixed game player. But I believe he

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can also play the big beat games at least with

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enough competency to you know, probably be a favorite over

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the majority of the fields that you get out at

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the WSP. And that's David Funkhauser. Okay, so I like

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that one. Yeah, a little bit off the board there,

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but I got Funkhauser. Give us three picks for WSP

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Player of the Year. We're gonna pick a favorite, We're

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gonna pick a mid mid tier contender, and we're gonna

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pick one long shot.

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Speaker 2: My favorite is is Shuan dy and the main reason

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is I think the I think there's only a few

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favorites when it comes to WSP Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think some of the other ones. My how

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many do you think there are? Just give me like

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a number. Is it more like three year, is it

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more like fifteen?

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's three. I think it's the Grano.

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It could just to but Nograno and Deep, I really

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they're They're tier one of all WSP Player of the

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Year candidates, and then you have a kind of a

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bigger tier two, which is like I think the Shaman's,

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the osmas Is, Michael Manchek, all those kind of people

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that are going to play big schedules and play events

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where they can accue a lot of points, and then

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you have basically everyone else. So I think Nograno, after

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winning a bracelet last year, pressure might not be there.

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I could be wrong, but I think Deep always wants

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to win. This is always going to push to try

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and win one, two, three, four bracelets, win another Player

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of the Year title and really stamp his legacy. So,

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Sean Dee's my my favorite, pick about yours?

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking a favorite. What do you mean You're

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not take your favorite. I'm in charge of the podcast

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and we have twenty five K fantasy coming up, so

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I'm going to abstain right now. Oh my, but once

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you see who we select you, that will be my favorite.

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So stay tuned for a couple of days. I can

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give the opponents to any sort of edge. You know,

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there's supposedly a lot of new teams. I don't know

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any of who the heck these guys are listening, so

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I'm not I'm not giving my favorite. Did you only

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you only gave favorite? Okay, I'm gonna say my mid

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tier then, Okay, Bryce Jockey interests. That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: He's got a mid year right, No, No, it's good.

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I never really would have consider him. He plays a lot,

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plays a lot of plays all the games. He I

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think he cares a crap ton like he wants to win.

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He's super competitive, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think in some ways he's kind of got something

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to prove, kind of monkey off the back. Ish. You know,

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you had the whole bad beat several years ago versus

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josh Aria, you had finishing second last summer to Negron.

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You like, you know, it's kind of like at some

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point I feel like Bryce is gonna rip off, like

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he's gonna have like a Scott sever esque summer. Yeah,

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you know, so, I mean not that he's like any

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sort of guarantee to win. Of course, it's very hard

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to win over his Spy Player of the Year, Yes,

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but you know Bryce can get as hot as anyone,

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as you mention, and he plays all the games. He'll

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play big and especially like he's the type of guy

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who kind of similar to what we saw a couple

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of years ago with Dan Zach. If he has a

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big summer early, maybe he's like, oh, I gotta get

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in the two fifty k. You gotta get the hunter

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k like high role, Like I gotta start, you know,

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sell some pieces and play every big thing for sure,

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But you got mid tier mid tier.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ride my pick from earlier Chad Evesledge. I

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think that's I think he qualifies for mid tier. If

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I think he's gonna win a couple of bracelets, he's

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likely to play a little maybe play a little bit bigger.

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And when I say that, I'm talking about the hundred

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kplow one hundred k no limit. I don't see him

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getting into two fifty k. But We also said that

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about Dan Zach, So he's one that could definitely make

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a run at trying to win Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: We got long shot, got this one's he could anybody.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I no idea, but if I'm really thinking

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about it, I think he could consider this guy a

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long shot.

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Speaker 1: Another mixed guy.

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Speaker 2: Benny Glasser, No, no, you're not a long shot.

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Speaker 1: No, he's in he's he's a mid tia. You think

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he might be favorite? Get out of here? Okay, what

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are you talking about? Who's gonna play as much Volney

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and like all the big stuff as Benny.

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Speaker 2: I feel like everyone out of like a twelve people

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then all technically lung shots.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's kind of the point. You got,

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you pick one. Let me think David Fuonkauser okay, who

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already said. I mean it's part long shot in that

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I think it's hard to win Player of the Year,

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or at least be a true favorite if you're not

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gonna step up and like play the fifty k's, play

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the twenty five k's, like all that sort of stuff. Like, yeah,

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a phone causer might get into the fifty k PPC,

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but is he gonna play a fifty K PLO. I

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don't know he's gonna play a twenty five k like

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like that sort of stuff, which I think, you know,

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it obviously gives you a really good chance to contend

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for POI if you're in those tournaments, which I think

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the favorite guys are, Like the favorite guys are like

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a lock to play two fifty to five K, like

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four shore, like whatever's happening that day, and then maybe

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they splashed around in some of those smaller stuff depending

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on what it is. So so that's how I kind

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of attack it there. And then also it's part long

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shot because like I feel like if David Funk collser

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ultimately wins, like the common poker verse might be like

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who's that, Like we know who David Funk calls is.

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You know, he's obviously plays, but it's like who's that?

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You know, So it's kind of like long shot, slash

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like breakout type of person to fit this little criteria.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of someone that if it was

467
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,519
a betting board on DraftKings, they wouldn't be listed.

468
00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: Another one I thought of going back to something I

469
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,680
said someone I said earlier is Shannon Shure. I was

470
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,039
thinking he's like a long shot, like, you know, he

471
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,839
might step it step it up now with the run

472
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,599
he's on play a bunch of the twenty five k's,

473
00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:43,559
you know, but like I wouldn't say that he's like

474
00:23:43,599 --> 00:23:46,519
any sort of favorite to win a POI, Right.

475
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna follow him that kind of shout and

476
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,000
show group of players and take Steven song. Yeah over

477
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,799
in Asia right now?

478
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: I would what does that term with the Lord the Lords?

479
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,079
Speaker 2: It's like a feel like a try and off, like

480
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,119
a like a small Chatten series. But you know what

481
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,680
he could rip off, you know, the million maker. Then

482
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,920
he could final table the twenty five k no lemon

483
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,440
hold him. He could win an online bracer which counts

484
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000
for Player of the Year. So he has got a

485
00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:17,279
few different avenues to getting there, and I would definitely say.

486
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: He is a long shot to win Player of the Year.

487
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,920
Which mixed game specialist is going to have the biggest summer?

488
00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:25,880
I think I know who You're going to save a

489
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,519
good I got to continue chats and I'm also going

490
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:31,519
to continue David Funks. Okay, so there we go. Which

491
00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:34,599
poker vlogger or influencer will make the biggest noise on

492
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,599
the Felt this summer, and you cannot say Daniel Legrano

493
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,039
is noise on the Felt results or is that is

494
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:44,440
that breaking a selfie stick? Yes, I mean, I guess,

495
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:49,079
open to interpretation. I implied felt, but you can I go.

496
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: Ahead. I'm going to take Ryan to Paula. I know

497
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,599
he is having a baby. Congratulations isn't going to play?

498
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,960
I don't know, but we have to remember baby run good,

499
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:03,759
Baby Ron Good. He's also backed by Negrano, meaning he

500
00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:04,839
can probably play a.

501
00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:06,519
Speaker 1: Big Wait, when did he get back to byground? Is

502
00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:07,440
that like an open thing.

503
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: That's he talks about on his vog all the time?

504
00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:10,599
Speaker 1: No?

505
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does vlog every day, so that's he's making

506
00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:17,720
noise in that aspect. On the YouTube streets, he'll be

507
00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:21,119
playing a bunch of events. I would expect he's my pick.

508
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,319
I went down the list of vloggers, and it's hard

509
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:26,519
to know how much they're gonna play, how much they're

510
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,039
gonna how much content they're gonna make. It's actually kind

511
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:30,680
of a tough one to pick. I thought, But.

512
00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got brad On. If you watched his recent vlog,

513
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,079
he talked about how hard he's gonna be going this summer,

514
00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:41,519
he's also got some he oh, he already won one

515
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:46,599
of those golden tickets for Club WPT. How kind of sketchy,

516
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:50,279
but you know he already he already won one. So basically,

517
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,519
if he wins, then one of those tournaments, he wins

518
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:56,240
an additional million dollars. So there's that. But then I

519
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,720
think he also said, and I mean, you guys can

520
00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:01,440
check the vlog to make sure that I'm not speaking nonsense,

521
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,599
because I very well might be. But if he wins

522
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:06,279
like something else, like another bracelet event, he's gonna basically

523
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:09,200
give one hundred k away. Rampage is doing some of that. Yeah,

524
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,880
So I mean, like Brad has talked about, basically, he's

525
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,880
like all in on the summer. He's gonna be going hard.

526
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,640
So so yeah, I mean he fits. He fits, you

527
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,759
know obviously poker vlogger and influencer. So yeah, I'm going

528
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:22,559
with Brad Owen for that one. Now, this next one.

529
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:28,960
In my short pre episode prep, I wasn't able to

530
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,880
come up with a name, so I'll see if I

531
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,279
can think of one on the fly, but I'm gonna

532
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:34,559
throw it to you first. Predict one mainstream athlete or

533
00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:37,960
celebrity to make a splash in a gold bracelet event.

534
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,240
Doesn't have to win, but you know, go deep, generate

535
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:43,240
some good buzz. The thing that I think of is

536
00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:47,400
back at the rio ws BE main event, Richard Seymour

537
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,920
was running deep and it started to really get legs

538
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,519
with like outside poker media like that sort of stuff, like,

539
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,200
oh my god, like three time Super Bowl champ Richard Seymour.

540
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,799
He's like running deep in the biggest poker tournament in

541
00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:00,160
the world, so so that type of like but it's

542
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,759
maybe not that big, you know, because it's obviously hard

543
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:05,720
to achieve that, but you know, just starting to really really,

544
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,759
you know, pick up some buzz. Who's it going to be?

545
00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: I think Richard Simos easy to consensus pick.

546
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: It is he does he play that much anymore? That's

547
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,720
my like. Since he got like kind of looped into

548
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:19,920
this Raiders ownership group, he like it's been more out

549
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,480
of the spotlight.

550
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:23,559
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna pick him the I'm gonna take a

551
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:25,640
sucker legend.

552
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,799
Speaker 1: Neyma still dealing with some injuries, so every time to

553
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:30,680
play some poker.

554
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,279
Speaker 2: Perfect time to play some sold the buzz when he

555
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,839
was here and he.

556
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: Cashan what like the one, and you know, so he

557
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,240
was at my table, that's right.

558
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:44,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he'll likely play a few events, and

559
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,920
the name and the stardom that he that he brings

560
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:50,519
will will create some kind of buzz for the World

561
00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:51,240
Series of Poker.

562
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:57,559
Speaker 1: I'm going with your boy, Kalais Campbell. The reason I

563
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,039
say that is because I think I feel like he's

564
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:03,559
the He's the one person that's a mainstream athlete or

565
00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:07,000
celebrity that I feel like is there every.

566
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: Year trying to check if he's signed to an NFL team.

567
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:10,799
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, I feel like a

568
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:12,359
lot of these guys, like I have no idea they're

569
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,319
even going to show up. Yeah, I mean a bunch

570
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:16,200
of them will show up for the main events, right,

571
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,119
But like you know, I mean you did that interview

572
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,640
with Kalay a couple of years ago. He's like, I

573
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,039
want to win a race, like I want to I'm

574
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:25,039
super competitive, Like I want to do that sort of stuff.

575
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:28,119
So I feel like we see him out there. You know,

576
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,799
I was thinking about possibly naming our friend Nick Wright,

577
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,960
but I think he's only playing like three tournaments.

578
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: So Kalays Campbell just re signed with Arizona Codinals who

579
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:39,640
boom short drive away buddy, Okay, I just drived that

580
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,680
last week and it's not that short. It's not that fun.

581
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,079
Speaker 1: Oh he's got he's got the money to but he's first.

582
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,279
Speaker 2: En off where it's you know, whether he's got some

583
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,440
RTA's or some Sama camp obligations. He is a forty

584
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,839
five hour flight away or a five hour drive.

585
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: So, uh, that's a good pick by you. That's right,

586
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,599
all right? Name I added this one. I don't know

587
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,839
if you saw it, but name a first time WSP

588
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:07,319
Bracele winner. Easy Alan Kesla. Oh Jesus Christ, No, not happening.

589
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,319
I got sewn Winter good one. He's freaking dou Yeah.

590
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,279
We got so burned last year in that freaking two

591
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:17,839
hundred and fifty k high roller his kings Taylor Vron

592
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,400
Krigenberg's kings with like they really like nine or ten

593
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,119
or eleven left or something like that. It was a

594
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,160
massive pot. I mean it is burned into my brain

595
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,960
that if Winter just wins that pot, he wins the tournament. Yeah,

596
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,119
and it changes like everything for us in terms of

597
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,599
fantasy and and all that sort of stuff. So I

598
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,119
got Winter. I mean, it's time he's gonna He's not

599
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,000
gonna put in like the biggest volume, but I say

600
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,359
every ten K plus Nola ma Ath hold him and

601
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,480
PLO tournament, he's gonna be in there. We obviously know

602
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:46,759
how hard it is to kill Shawn Winter in a

603
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,559
poker tournament. Yeah, like and and you know he can

604
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:53,640
play extremely, extremely well. So I got Sean Winter is finally,

605
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:56,240
finally gonna do it. And when you have additions like

606
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,640
the hunter k PLO, that's right up Sewan Winter, you know.

607
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,839
So so there we go, Sean Winter. I'm looking at

608
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:04,400
you for first time. W sphegle brace winner. All right,

609
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:06,720
moving on to a batch of questions that have to

610
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,160
do with prize pools and field sizes at the twenty

611
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,240
twenty five WIP. First up, of course, we got to

612
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,599
look at the ws AP main event. Will it break

613
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:19,839
the field size record which was ten and twelve entries

614
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,839
from last year.

615
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,519
Speaker 2: I don't want to bet against this number, but I

616
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:26,240
feel like I have to with everything that's going on

617
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:29,319
in this country and some of the travel restrictions, So

618
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,960
I just I don't want to. My head says I

619
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,160
have to. My heart says, don't. Don't be an idiot,

620
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,400
you know, I always bet the overs here. So I'm

621
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,119
going to say that we, you know, we fall a

622
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:39,720
little short.

623
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm somewhat aligned with you until two days ago or yesterday,

624
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,559
when bitcoin is now at an all time high again,

625
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:54,720
so we know how invested the poker community is into cryptocurrency.

626
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:56,359
Speaker 2: I don't think that affects the main event as much

627
00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:58,160
as it affects like the two fifty k or something.

628
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that is true, because because the main event

629
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,880
is you know, it's it's one ten k bolton, that's it,

630
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,079
versus something with re entries. Yeah, yeah, I can.

631
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,759
Speaker 2: I didn't make that much money the last few days.

632
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:09,720
It doesn't really change how I play if I'm going to.

633
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,799
Speaker 1: I think I'm a no. It's just and it's not

634
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,799
like it's not like this is a no oh my god,

635
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:17,920
they're going to get six thousand, you know, like that

636
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,440
sort of thing. No, I mean, this is just a

637
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,680
I think it's just really hard to achieve that. I

638
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,720
agree with you on a lot of the stuff that's happening.

639
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,599
I think kind of generally speaking, poker feels slightly down

640
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:32,880
in terms of field sizes, not like anything big or

641
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,519
alarming or whatever. It's just kind of like just like

642
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,759
leveled off a little bit. So I think ten and

643
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:42,000
twelve is super super hard to achieve. I think it's great,

644
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,599
but I think they're going to fall slightly short, slightly short,

645
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,880
and then I would anticipate that things pick back up

646
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,519
next year, right, So that that's kind of how I'm

647
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,279
thinking thinking through this one. Do you have a prediction

648
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:57,799
for field size? Like me, give me a number.

649
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: I take like ten thousand and than seventeen.

650
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:07,079
Speaker 1: I got niney nine and ninety two. Okay, so I

651
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:10,640
mean we're pretty close in terms of, you know, slightly

652
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,319
below last year. Extremely good number, you know, is there

653
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:19,799
is there a number? So would you be like, right

654
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,920
on a scale of one to ten, how surprised would

655
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,799
you be if they broke the record? I wouldn't be

656
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:28,240
that surprised to be.

657
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:33,279
Speaker 2: One to ten, ah and being the most surprised.

658
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten being oh my god, what the hell this

659
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:38,400
is insane? Like a four? Yeah, I'm like a six.

660
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:43,279
Maybe what's the number where you're like, wow, that's bad

661
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:45,400
because I don't think you and I like you're at

662
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,480
tenenty seventeen. I'm at nine thousand, nine or ninety two.

663
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,519
I would never say that, we would say that's very good.

664
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: But from from my perspective is different to what WSP's perspective, right,

665
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,319
I think WSP's perspective would be anything sub ten thousand

666
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:58,720
is bad.

667
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: I think, come on, that's what you're playing with one

668
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,119
hundred and twelve entries. That's not even a lie. I'm saying.

669
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:05,519
That's how I think they may view it.

670
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: Personally, I think there's a world where we get eighty

671
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:14,200
eight hundred, eighty five hundred. Anything below that is like, oh,

672
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:17,039
this is this is not great. But we're going to

673
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:18,680
have a I think we'll have a pretty good idea

674
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,519
in the first few weeks as the World Series starts

675
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,759
and we start comparing field sizes to previous years.

676
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: We'll ook at.

677
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:27,839
Speaker 2: Different buyers, and we'll see whether where it's trending, if

678
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,880
it's trending the same or trending significantly under us or

679
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,680
hopefully just significantly over. We can readjust these lines.

680
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: I think the I think sub eight thousand is for

681
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,359
me personally as wow, that's bad. I think anything over

682
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,599
eight thousand for a ten K poker tournament is still

683
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,440
an insane accomplishment. Yeah, Like, I just don't care what

684
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,160
anyone says. I don't care if you got ten and

685
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,279
twelve last year. I still think that's a wild, wild

686
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:59,400
number to get, you know, especially when it's a freezer, Like,

687
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,240
it's just to me, that's incredible. Now, of course people

688
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:03,400
are gonna look at it and they're gonna be like,

689
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,839
oh my god, they're twenty percent down. Oh yeah, what's

690
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,679
going on whatever? Like you know, first year, Gigi owned

691
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:11,119
the thing. What the heck? You know? But no, so

692
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,800
while I do think it's going to be ever so

693
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,159
slightly down, like it's going to take a lot for

694
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,480
me to be like, wow, that's horribly bad. Yeah type

695
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,039
of thing. All right, how many million dollar first place

696
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,679
prizes are going to be awarded this summer? I'll let

697
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,719
you answer this. Okay, how about this. I'm gonna give

698
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,599
you what it was last year? There was sixteen. Do

699
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,280
you think it'll be more or less?

700
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,199
Speaker 2: Well, it's fifteen the year before sixteen last year, but

701
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,800
you already you know, of course you do. Just forging

702
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,280
stack guy, I'm gonna go it's going to be more.

703
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,119
Take at least seventy eight, mainly because more events. We're

704
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:48,079
adding one hundred k plot that's going to be a

705
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:51,360
million dollar first prize. If we predict some of these

706
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,239
events to go down, Okay, maybe we we chrop onnder that.

707
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:57,320
We did have one event last year that had nine

708
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,039
hundred and seventy five K for first I believe I

709
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,760
was the one Michael Rucker one, so that could easily

710
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,440
go out. We could have eighteen. But yeah, I think

711
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:08,039
we get more than last.

712
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: Yea, I'm going less, I'm going fifteen. Okay, I just think,

713
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,480
you know, some of these events might be cutting it

714
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:18,480
a little bit close. Like I kind of wonder about

715
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:21,519
the PPC, to be honest, I mean that's kind of close.

716
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:25,599
You have the Monster Stack was one million, ninety eight thousand,

717
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,679
you got the well they don't have and I know

718
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,400
you said the Hunter k Poo, which I also thought of,

719
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:33,760
but they don't have that three thousand dollars mid Stakes Championship, yeah,

720
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:37,159
which was over. It was slightly over a million, one thousand,

721
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:39,400
one million and forty one thousand, so like, you know,

722
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,360
that's a wash there. I kind of wonder about this

723
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,280
ten thousand dollars Mystery Bounty, the one that Matthew Lambreck

724
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,400
won that was slightly over. You know, you have you're

725
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,119
going to get the main event. Of course, right, you're

726
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,000
gonna have the Millionaire Maker. That's a lock because it's guaranteed.

727
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:57,559
You're also going to have a guarantee with the mystery million.

728
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,119
Speaker 2: So add the twenty five k half and half. I

729
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:02,840
feel like that could easily you know, we've seyen the

730
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,480
popularity of plo and rollers, that could easily be a

731
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,559
seven figa first prize right there.

732
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I just think we're going to see

733
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,800
kind of some hits here there, So that's that's where

734
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,880
I'm at. But it'll probably be right around the same

735
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,599
number overall, so I don't think it's too crazy. Now.

736
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:24,400
One thing that is that is working against this prediction

737
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,440
here for me is I think that the organizers will

738
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,480
push to get a million, like where they can. Yeah,

739
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:32,639
Like if let's say the Monster Stack is like nine

740
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,119
hundred and ninety three thousand, maybe they just push it

741
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:35,719
to a million.

742
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: Depends on the event, But I think there is one

743
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,800
pay out there, Like check which one Michael Ruco won.

744
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: He won those six max.

745
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: Right how much though? Wasn't like nine to seventy five,

746
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,320
nine to twenty four? Yeah, Like when do they start?

747
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,199
That was the closest to a million without Yeah, when

748
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,840
do they start trying to get that one up? But

749
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,360
like is that event worthy of a fiddling with the payouts?

750
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. So what's interesting about that event? That

751
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,760
event always takes place like during the masbe main event,

752
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,679
but like deep into it. Yeah, like that's the one

753
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,159
I think Sean Dee won a couple of years ago. Obviously,

754
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Michael Rocco won it last year. But what's interesting this

755
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:15,440
year is you have that WPT Venetian event. Sure five K,

756
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:19,719
four million dollar guaranteed. So is it kind of like

757
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,719
people are picking and choosing a little bit more. I

758
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,679
mean we'll see obviously, but you know, just kind of

759
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,400
worth worth throwing out there in that regard. But I

760
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,159
mean it's probably gonna be race writer on the same

761
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,079
number as last year. Which event is going to have

762
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,840
the largest prize pool outside of the waspre main event?

763
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: You kind of touched on the price of bitcoin, So

764
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,239
I am going to bed on LOSSI as big as

765
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,079
prize pool.

766
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,639
Speaker 1: Which was the two fifty k. There's only one answer,

767
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:44,719
and it's super Hirola.

768
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 2: Nothing beatsa well, mister millions is pretty close, lossie. But

769
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,480
I think there'll be some issues this year and we're

770
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,119
going to get onto that soon. But yeah, two fifty

771
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:54,679
k Superhirola.

772
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,159
Speaker 1: Will the Mystery Millions once again? He clip eighteen thousand entries. Oh,

773
00:37:58,159 --> 00:37:59,280
by the way, I think it's gonna be the two

774
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,559
fifty k. Well that's not clear. So in terms of

775
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:06,840
the Mystery Millions eclipsing eighteen thousand entries, it had eighteen thousand,

776
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,480
one hundred and eighty eight in twenty twenty three and

777
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:12,159
then last year at eighteen thousand, four hundred and nine.

778
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,800
So is it going to They did add a flight, correct,

779
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,519
I believe I believe all those like millionaire maker Monster Stack.

780
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:25,639
I believe they all added a flight. Maybe I'm wrong there,

781
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:25,800
but I.

782
00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: Think they did. I'm honestly gonna take I'm going to

783
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:35,679
take on this, and the main reason it being was,

784
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:38,920
you know, we have issues with people traveling, so maybe

785
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:41,039
they only want to come for a limited amount of time.

786
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:43,280
They might they might save that for the main event time.

787
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,320
I also think there's gonna be a lot of issues

788
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,920
with WSP plus for that first couple of days where

789
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,719
you're gonna lose, You're gonna lose entries for people they're

790
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,519
gonna be they won't be able to get in on time,

791
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:55,159
they'll get in on light, they won't be able to

792
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:57,880
fire as many bullets as they want. So I feel

793
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,760
like we even with the additional flight, we may fall

794
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,679
slightly short.

795
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: I think it gets over eighteen thousand. Again, I think

796
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,360
it's gonna be under last year, but it'll get over

797
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,760
eighteen thousand. I feel like that's just kind of the

798
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,000
benchmark for this tournament now, you know. I just think

799
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:19,280
that ultimately it's that extra flight is just going to

800
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,280
do wonders for this thing. So I mean, that's that's

801
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,039
where I'm at with that, and it might even set

802
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:28,199
a record, to be honest, with the extra flight turnout wise,

803
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,360
what's going to be the biggest surprise bracelet event. You

804
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,679
can take that however you want. You can spin it positive,

805
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,320
you can spin it negative. You know, when we come

806
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,639
out of this w SUP or when we hop on

807
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:41,480
a podcast that night or whatever it is, which event

808
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:43,079
are we going to be like kind of talking about

809
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:46,360
as it relates to the turnout the most.

810
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: I think it's that new event. I think it's the

811
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,880
one hundred k PLO. It's going to have a massive field,

812
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:56,079
and I mean that's what I also have Yeah, I

813
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:57,440
think it's gonna be a top of the town that

814
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,639
where did these three hundred and sixty players find one

815
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:01,280
hundred K from?

816
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,639
Speaker 1: Something? I mean, I feel like every year for the

817
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,159
twenty five, at least in previous years, for the twenty

818
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:09,480
five KPLO, for the fifty k PLO, you and I

819
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:12,119
are walking through the field, where'd all these people come from? Yeah?

820
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:13,760
You know, like I feel like that's only going to

821
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,639
be the same sort of thing when it comes to

822
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:18,119
the Hunter K And like I think the hundre k

823
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:19,480
PLO is going to be bigger than the Hunter K

824
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:22,639
Nolanmit hold Them, which I think had one hundred and

825
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,119
twelve entries last year. You know, like I think this

826
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:29,079
Hunter k PLO is going to be banana. Yeah, I like,

827
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:34,159
I think the lines one fifty yeah take it over.

828
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,760
So so that's where I'm at with that. I don't

829
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,320
have anything else written down, so do you No, you

830
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,840
don't have any any other predictions. Overall, I think it's

831
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,920
going to be a really good summer. I can't remember

832
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,960
did we talk about this on the podcast. I think

833
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,519
we might have before, But I think w SP does

834
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,320
very well. You know, I think it's obviously the biggest

835
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,119
and the best in terms of in this industry. It

836
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,760
is the NFL, right, the main event is the Super

837
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,199
Bowl all that sort of stuff. I think there's a

838
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,519
greater potential that we're talking about other venues getting hurt

839
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:18,679
by various things, just most specifically that these other venues

840
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,719
have guarantees on every single tournament. Yeah, you know, like

841
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,639
the WSP has like they have like one tournament guarantee

842
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:28,360
that's the Gladiators of Poker with a three million dollar guarantee,

843
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:31,360
and then everything else is like, oh, we're guaranteeing first place.

844
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:35,079
So like the Millionaire Makers guarantee is really only a

845
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,679
million dollars, right, So you know stuff like that. So

846
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,320
I don't think the SPY is going to get hurt

847
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,519
in terms of like, oh my god, they misguarantees, Oh

848
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:46,159
my god, Overlailer all that sort of stuff. Thinksp is

849
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:48,320
going to be just plenty plenty fine. Of course, that's

850
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,360
where the common folk go. That's where the big fields are,

851
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:55,280
the recreationals, the shot takers, all that sort of stuff,

852
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:58,239
the dreamers, and then you know, we could just be

853
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,119
hearing things outside of that. I used to be like, oh,

854
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:03,400
like this venue has missed a whole bunch of guarantees,

855
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,360
or this might be just missed a whole bunch of guarantees.

856
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,679
And with the way that these venues now promote the overlays,

857
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,840
like you know, overlay Alert, would probably see a fair

858
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,159
bit of that, or at least we could see a

859
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:14,400
fair bit of that. I think there's there's potential for

860
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,400
it this year. So overall that's kind of where my

861
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:19,440
head is at. But well, yeah, I mean I think

862
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,920
it's going to be a really really good summer or

863
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,239
really really big summer, and I'm excited. I mean, we're

864
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,880
less than a week away. As we said, are we

865
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,599
doing a code word?

866
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:37,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do one. Okay, what do you want it

867
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:37,760
to pay?

868
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: You choose it. I'll say the code word will be

869
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,960
let's just use prediction. It's a long one. I know.

870
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,239
It's also one of those ones that I think some

871
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,360
people might misspell it, which is I think is good,

872
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:53,960
Like you gotta spell it right now, So prediction, google

873
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,960
it or chat GBT or do whatever you got to

874
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,679
do out there to get the spelling right for a

875
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,159
prediction that is the code word, and uh yeah, let's

876
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:09,360
rock and roll. I'm ready to go for Tim Duckworth,

877
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:12,719
the mullet no no sleeve wearing guy. I hope you

878
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,280
shoveled to the device to be like that. Please, for

879
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,800
the love of God, for be incredible for him, Tim Duckworth,

880
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,880
for me, Johnny Peters, We're out of here. We will

881
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,559
talk to you guys next time.

882
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:29,159
Speaker 2: Express