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Speaker 1: Hell, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the six one

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hundred and thirty first episode. Harder than I thought that

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was gonna be. I'm the clown Prince of Wolves. Trust

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now I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm mister juice stealing Less.

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Speaker 3: Hello, my name is tile Field.

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Speaker 1: There you go, lays showing well if you haven't guessed,

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which maybe haven't by the nicknames, but probably certainly by

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the title of this episode. Yes, we're here a review Beetlejuice,

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beal Juice, which I've still not got accustomed to calling

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it that. I just still say beal juice too. But

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Eve when the credits rolled up, like right, this movie

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is called beeld just beal Juice. But we are here

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if you're curious, because we're not gonna talk about in

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this episode what we thought about the original. We did

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do a retro last week, so it's all there breaking

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that down some triviu, so it was always fun to

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go back. It was dil Muss's first time watching that,

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so yeah, there's some good discussion there, lots of good

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stuff on the feed, which we'll talk about a little

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bit later. This isn't coming out that much earlier, but

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for some people we got in early screening, so it's

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coming out like a early so as usual, not anything's changed,

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but we will make sure that the first bit is

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completely spoiler free, no hint of a spoiler anywhere near

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our mouth, our crevices during the first fifteen to twenty minutes. Uh,

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And then we will give you a warning and then

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we'll get in this way. So if you've seen the

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movie or just listen to it, come back whenever you

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want and it will be there. So Dyl, I'm gonna

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start with you. You know, last week saw it for

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the first time, but now we've all seen be able

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to just be able to use the sequel together, same showing,

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same time, not same city, but close enough. What did

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you think of this as a fall up too? As

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we talked about a nearly forty year old movie, it's

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thirty something, so it's a I don't know what the distances,

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I can't even remember. It's forced awakens to a new

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so it's kind of iffy, but I feel it's definitely

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one of the sequels that has like the longest years

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in between. Maybe I'll do some trivia and find that tonight.

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Speaker 4: Do some trivia and find that. Yeah, it's it's it's

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funny coming into this. I feel like I'm in a

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very different headspace than a lot of people, even just

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at the theater. It's like my taking someone's seat who's

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been waiting for this for thirty years. Meanwhile I'm some

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guy who just saw it for the first time last week.

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I wasn't really thinking about that. Who cares, you know,

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get your tickets, you can get them once in are,

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this has not been a highly anticipated thing.

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Speaker 2: It's like I've been watching these trailers this year.

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Speaker 4: I've always wanted to watch the original, but I finally

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just did last week coming into this week, so it's

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all very fresh. But it is funny to have like

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a legacy sequel like this that I'm really just seeing

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like a week apart, and it is it is fun

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to see just like how some people of age and

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like Catherine O'Hara like doesn't seem like any older. But

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then obviously Winona Ryders was like a kid and now

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she's like a middle aged woman or whatever whatever age

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she is, So it is fun to come into that way.

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I had a great time with this movie. This movie

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is just so much fun from start to finish. It's

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so creative. The visuals are off the wall, highly random

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and crazy, but a lot of I don't know, just

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like good animatronics, like mixed in with CGI in there.

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the setting. I think it's like the first movie when

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we talked about in the retro, there's not a lot

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that happens like plot wise, like it's a pretty simple movie.

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like an A plot, B plot, C plot plot, There's

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still works like because it never really takes it too seriously.

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music is fantastic. There's a couple sequences in particular that

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really really stand out. But it's just such a creative movie.

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iconic look to it. Look and feel, and I just

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couple of characters that if I really break it down

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on paper, it's like, Okay, I feel like they didn't

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don't need some intricate plot with all sorts of like

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villains having their big monologue and stuff like I'm fine

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to just have someone who's there for the vibes, and

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I truly truly loved it.

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Speaker 1: What will you, mister Field? Oh and sorry, before you

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go to the ones I found was Mary Poppins had

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fifty four years between sequel and I don't necessarily count

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this one because it was straight to DVD, but or

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straight DV it's just whatever. But Bambi and Bambi two

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sixty three years apart, so again, like I said, that

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was a straight to DVD Disney one, but still it

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does count. So the Blade Runner was another one with

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a thirty five year gap, and then there was some

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people are making jokes at Avatar at the time when

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you know this threat was coming on, Tay, you may

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know this quickly. Death Race two thousand and Death Race

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twenty fifty are those in the same universe? I feel

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Speaker 3: Have no idea. I've only seen Death Race one with

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Jason Stayum, I don't know what happens.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, that's there. I think people are saying that's

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the sequel or remake. That's iffy because I think it's

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a remaker not But if not, that one has forty

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two years So there's a couple that have it beat better. Though.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine if for Tarantino's final film, he decided

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to do a Death Proof sequel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he has to wait. He has to wait

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sixty four years to beat Bambi.

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Speaker 1: M M, you know what, I'm not waiting for anymore, Taylor.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely love this movie. I think this was a

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super fun time. I was laughing and if I was

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concerned about the humor of this, it was the fact

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that Okay, you have a movie like Dip Maveren and

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that humor, and I feel like, is this gonna be

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kind of piggybacking off of that humored a little bit?

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quality with the humor and the jokes and everything. Michael Keaton, Uh,

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it's like years since the first one. You wouldn't even

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know it. He just slides back into this character so

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freaking well. I can't believe it. I just I think

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everyone did great. I didn't need a lot, Like Dylan

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you don't need all these like huge monologues or major backstories.

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because me going into this movie is so much more enjoyable, Like, oh,

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this kind of plot progression here with these characters. It's

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pretty awesome and fun and visually entertaining, and the practical

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fact that they looked so great in this movie. Just

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the fact, like everything that they introduced in that world

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of beal Juice in the first one and they brought

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it into this this film, and just with the technology. Yes,

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in this movie and just visually, it was just so

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nice to see it, just in that that higher quality upscaleness,

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and I really am happy that we got this movie.

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I feel like I already want to go see it

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again right away because I just had a good time.

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I had a really really good time with this. This

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is probably gonna be like a staple Halloween film for

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me now in the month of October, because this is

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just this is a good time and I'm just I

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walked out of that theater feeling, you know, good in

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my in my my stomach, like yeah, I had some

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Speaker 1: The second time, uh yeah, I think I'm the lowest

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on this out of you guys. I don't have major cons.

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I think I just I still enjoyed it. I still

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had fun, I still passing it. It's still not like

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a just a mediocre pass. It's still like a I

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you maybe guess where it is. But I had a

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fun time. Maybe not every joke hits for me. It's

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you have the intricate plots. I'm not looking for complete

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character develpment belges. I'm looking for a good time, and

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good job for the most part. There's maybe one sequence

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as the main character, even then she wasn't the main character, right.

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this one she is like the main character, and that's

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for an hour forty four and stuff. So I did

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enjoy it. I think, Yeah, Keaton slides right back. He's

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he's great. I all like I'm being selfish because you know,

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they'll be like, oh, this just blows up. But I'm

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gonna take it as okay. But I'm just happy with

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more what we got. Justin Throau is tons of fun

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in this movie. He I have loved them since two

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movies that happened at the same time when I saw

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Zoolander and Charlie's Angel Full Throttle. Very different, but I

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can know why. He's maybe not everyone's cup of tea,

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just he's great at his type of humor. Catherine Hare

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is great, Jenner Artaga is is good, but like they

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don't ask much of her to do. I can see

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why she gets the with credit. It's a very just

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kind of like we got Jenna Ortega Daffo though he's fantastic.

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Deaphoe being great, But that's hence the name. Loved that character,

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loved all of the aspects of the world that they

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try to be as practical as possible. Like Taylor said,

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because technology is caught up, you're like, oh, that actually

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but it looked really good. Score I don't think is

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but then he had a whole bunch of new stuff

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that really worked. We're here Elfman. To me, Elfman's not

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really been great for I don't know, a couple of decades. Now,

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it's kind of the same here. So yeah, I had

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a good time that I think it is a better

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legacy sequel. I think there's certain subplots and stuff you

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could just maybe cut and this could even flow even better,

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like with this one being our forty four the other

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one being our I think you actually could get this

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down to an hour and a half and it might

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make it a little better. So I had a good

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time that happy it exists. It probably will be in

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the room. It's good enough that I think it will

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justify the double watch. Now when I watch Beetlejuice, I

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think it will be a one too, So I think

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that's the highest compent I can give it. Because there's

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many legacy sequels that, oh yeah, they're good, they're fine,

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but I might disregard them or not watch them every

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you know, with the pairing might be every couple of years.

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This I think there's enough good carryover that I would

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watch combined with the first one. So yeah, enjoyed it.

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I didn't love it. I don't think it's gonna be

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in like my top ten or even twenty for the

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year maybe something like that. But still had a really

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good time and the girls had a good time too.

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Nothing too scary. You had a cool popcorn bucket. It's

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the sand worm and it goes into a bucket. I'll

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try to get at some point, but it was worth

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the thirty bucks.

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Speaker 4: So it's just like Dune, another sandworm type.

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Speaker 1: Of the sequence.

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Speaker 3: One's way better than the Dude, I'll get it hang

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the Dune one. I mean, that's this spark a whole

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what's sexual controversy? Right for you or for definitely not

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for me, not on a personal level. No, but this

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one's pretty hype.

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Speaker 1: Just terrible for the audio listeners. But that's why you

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turned the video the YouTube video.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, much different than I was expecting. Yeah, no

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sand involved in this one.

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Speaker 1: Well there is in the popcorn. They put like you

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get the butter and they just shuit so the whole

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time you're just like crunching away. But no, I saw

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it and I was like, okay, I already thought about

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getting a bucket because we didn't have a bucket usually

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like to bring one to space of the popcorn, and

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I just had a feeling like I bet the bele

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juice one might be cool. And it was I'm like, okay,

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they got the thirty bucks for me, and.

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Speaker 3: So you knew the theater had the beetlejuice one beforehand.

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Speaker 1: No, I just thought I saw a cool bucket, and

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I just thought people just got to have a cool bucket, right,

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even like the we were in hot topic this week,

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like the merch, there's a lot of fun things you

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can do with beetlejuice. So I was like, I bet

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they got a cool bucket. I'm ready to buy a bucket.

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They did also have like sweet corn. They called it.

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It was popcorn died green. But I did not get

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that because I thought that could be a risk for

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me and the girls, especially the girls, so.

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Speaker 3: Just puking on the way home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did not want to not like the popcorn there, so,

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but I think we'd all recommended Dylan. Our theater was like,

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say about like half full, but it's also a Wednesday screening.

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What was yours? Looking like over there it was jam packed.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there was nice.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean when I got my ticket, because I

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said I got it quite late, there was like three

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or four spots left and they were in like the

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very front row, so I didn't see if those ones

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got sold out, but yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was loaded.

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Speaker 4: People were excited to get their juice on.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they gotta get that juice and now they're

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going the GV juice. But yeah, I think that's one

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thing Too'm excited to see how it goes through the

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next few weeks. If I can hold on and keep

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being viewed into Halloween, I guess'd be in a spike

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because theater we are in loved it everything. Keyton said

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they were having a good time like it. It's definitely

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a crowd pleaser type of movie, so I think it's

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gonna have like a good word of mouth and it's

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a good like as someone that brought theirs to it.

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There's nothing that risk. There's like one like maybe sexual scene,

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but it's all like shadowed and stuff, but like it's

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there's nothing.

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Speaker 3: Few kids there too, actually.

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Speaker 1: Lya there was, yeah, and they didn't really have like

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a big jump scare in this, I feel like it's

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mine as it wasn't like a big like or anything

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like that. Like I thought, there'll be one that'll get

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the girls, but there wasn't anything this movie that was

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kind of going for that. So yeah, if you wanted

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to see with other kids, it's definitely think like if

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they like this type of stuff, like more like a

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PG whore, I think you are fine to take them.

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There's nothing crazy here, so I guess there's one F bomb,

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but the original has one F bomb, right, So all right?

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Anything else non spoilers, No, I think not. All right.

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We will take our first break and then we'll be

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right back and we're back. So let's get into some spoilers.

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Where do we want to go first? Got the juice,

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you got, the deeds? You got type?

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Speaker 3: I'd love to start at the storyline that was not

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advertised and unexpected or uh or his character meets this

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boy and right away I thought, okay, this has to

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be a ghost. This is how it's introduced, and I

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love that whole setup. I love that it was actually

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him just like being kind of a bad guy and

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the way they just ended his story kind of a

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bad guy too.

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Speaker 1: This man who murders his fit parents is kind of

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a bad guy.

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Speaker 3: The way they ended his story was fucking hilarious. It's

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gonna be my most favorite part of the movie. I

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was I was dying laughing at that. It was. It

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was great, But I just I love that they didn't

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put that into the marketing at all, and I thought

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it was a great introduction. Of course, when you see,

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like the book is there and you don't get to

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see the parents head on, you think, okay, maybe he's

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alive and maybe he can see ghosts too, or something

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like that. But as it unravels, I think it's it's

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pretty well done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like, thinking back on it now, I

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feel like the marketing was really trying to hit the

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nostalgic factor right, playing the music, showing off like similar

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set pieces reminding you of like the characters and actors

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that are in this, and then showing like a little

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bit of craziness but like really quick cuts. But even then,

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like I think it showed, wasn't there a sand warm

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like in the trailer as well?

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Speaker 1: Or might yeah one of those?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I feel like they're you know, tackling some

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of those same things again. But yeah, so I think

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it makes sense to not show that because I might

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that might be something that people don't want to see necessarily.

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I think it was like use just the right amount.

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I think if they dug down and that had like

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twice as much screen time as it did, I would

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have not been too into it because it was kind

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of like a pretty one dimensional thing. But yeah, I

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think it was a fun sequence. I think it made

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sense for the characters in the world. I feel like

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it was pretty obvious what was going on there, at

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least somewhat I didn't know. I didn't catch on immediately

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that he was a ghost, but definitely when his parents

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when you don't see their face when she's walking through

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the house, I'm like, Okay, something's going on here. Absolutely,

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And then it kind of obviously clicked in with some

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of those reveals there and his ulterior motive, you know,

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when when he's getting when he's having her say this

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line that is like incantation and other language, you know,

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it doesn't mean what she thinks it's gonna mean, but

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it all works out in the end, of course.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I like that sequence. I thought it was good.

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Speaker 4: I think they had good chemistry given that they didn't

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really have a ton of scenes together and kind of

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to what you were saying, Travis, like, I guess I

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was surprised at how, like general, she's in it a lot,

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but she doesn't feel like she's the star of the movie,

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which is what I know. I thought the angle we

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were going for, which you know, honestly makes a lot

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of sense, even even with Beatle just doing the retrospective

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last week being surprised that, like, oh, the movie's actually

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more about these characters than these other ones that I

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was expecting. So I think that kind of makes sense.

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And you know, folks on the characters from the original

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movie that that doesn't make a lot of sense. But

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I think even some of those scenes that they have together,

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her and that and that boy I forget his name,

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Like I feel like she's not really saying a lot.

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She's kind of just like walking around, she's looking at him.

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She has like a couple of quips here or there.

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But yeah, it's a pretty, uh, I don't know, subdued

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performance for the most part, and it's a lot of

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it's just like her being angsty teen, like scoffing in

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the corner and things like that, which of course she's

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she's good at.

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Speaker 1: M That's what was surprising. It's just so funny where

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I feel like Wednesday happens and everyone says, oh they

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do beatle Juice. I gotta get her, and like everything

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that people, you know, forecast happened, right. But then that's

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where I was kind of surprised that with why No

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Ryoder when she's in the first one, she has that

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gimmick of yeah, she's ansty team. It's also the like

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death becomes Me and all this type of stuff where

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she's just like a regular girl. Like they try to

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play with this like activist storyline, but that doesn't go

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too far. It's just like, hey, my dad was one

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and I want to make change too, and that's about it,

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and that's okay. Like I genuinely feel it's just.

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Speaker 2: Like weather, studying spiders in the Amazon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, studying fish in the Atlantic Ocean or whatnot.

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But like that before I forget why, I had this

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question a few times, why is his dad a worker there?

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Because I thought we had this, I felt we had

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a moment of realization of oh man, all these people

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that are workers in this underworld, they are people that

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have taken their own life, but it didn't seemed like

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that was the route this time, because they like there's

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multiple characters that were workers, but didn't seem like they

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had taken their own life. When we met Dany DeVito,

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they you know, show that, and they showed Okay, clearly

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some guy I guess for some reason drinking cleaner or whatever,

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maybe just to take his own life. But that that's

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what I was a little confused about.

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Speaker 3: But maybe I want to say, like it is convoluted,

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but I kind of took it as Okay, he's an activist,

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a protester, and you see earlier on like one of

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those like oil spill like activists. Yeah, so I kind

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of thought maybe he's in the Amazon, maybe the rainforest.

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Maybe he was doing something to stand up and it

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just ended in him like sacrificing himself in a poor

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decision and he got killed for it. So that's why

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I kind of took it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting, like they when they talk about the death,

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I wondered, if we were going down the route, that

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he is actually alive out there somewhere because they never

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found his body. Is like part of the thing that

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they say, or at least that's what uh Astroid believes,

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and so maybe maybe the maybe Lydia knew that his

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body was found and didn't want to like tell her

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because it'd be traumatic or something like that. But yeah,

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I definitely thought that was gonna go a different way

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at first, so I was a little surprised to see

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him there, but that, yeah, I guess we kind of

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have to headcanon that a bit because I didn't even

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think about that during the movie. I kind of forgot

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about that detail that they're supposed to be like specific

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people that are put in these roles.

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Speaker 1: But maybe it's just a different department too, because maybe

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that's that's the immigration and stuff. Maybe that is, you know,

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even the actors thing maybe is that that he also

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wants to help the dead people out, so he's there

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so I can make it work. I was just trying

473
00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:39,720
to think of my mind when we thought about that

474
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,640
all the jobs in the last one. But again, that

475
00:20:41,759 --> 00:20:45,880
is more like the dead afterlife waiting room or whatnot area, So.

476
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it was interesting to see a little

477
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,240
bit more of the afterlife area, but not a ton

478
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,160
more like we really just saw the immigration area and

479
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,160
then like the soul train like platform and those are

480
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,799
like the new spots that we get to. But I

481
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,920
think it was good that they just still still hug

482
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,480
like we're pretty refrained with that for the most part,

483
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,400
and they'll have some mystery there.

484
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, good, good point on that.

485
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think they like we got that same

486
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,799
corner like we did before. There's a little bit more.

487
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,440
I I got what they're going with for the Soul Train,

488
00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:20,880
I didn't exactly love it. I thought it was maybe

489
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,599
maybe I didn't need to return to it, but I

490
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,759
it was maybe just like a bit too on the

491
00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:27,599
nose to me to make it like literally literally a

492
00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:30,880
seventies Soule Train type of vibe. I get it, but

493
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,279
it just I don't know, didn't didn't work for me.

494
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,599
The thing that I was surprised with the data was

495
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,920
kind of hoping one I actually, uh, I guess the

496
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,400
fish were fine. I just felt like the fish maybe

497
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,240
took away when they're trying to do the dramatic scenes.

498
00:21:43,279 --> 00:21:45,920
But I was wanting a lot more from that scene

499
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,720
when they all three together, but it went by very fast.

500
00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:51,079
It was hey, like, I love you both and I

501
00:21:51,079 --> 00:21:53,160
don't want you to fight because of me. And then

502
00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:55,119
Jenna and I know, to look at each other, give

503
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,160
each other head none and they hug and that's it. Like,

504
00:21:57,319 --> 00:21:59,000
And I wasn't saying like I need the best writing.

505
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,160
It was just it fell. It was like you said,

506
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,359
the fact that they didn't show his body or didn't know.

507
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,119
I thought, Okay, there's gonna be a bigger thing with it,

508
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,000
and there wasn't. So it was like, Okay, it's just

509
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:09,519
gonna be the emotional string for these characters. And it

510
00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:11,680
still was. Don't get me wrong, they still check that box.

511
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,240
But I thought it was going to be more like

512
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,519
just even a bigger speech from him, but it just

513
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,440
it wasn't. And that gonna happen with everything where it

514
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,119
was him is when the grandfather died, when Catherine Harradai,

515
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,200
no one really cares when people die, and this be like,

516
00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:29,480
oh that sucks, like yeah, like all the snakes, Yeah,

517
00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:31,759
the snakes, Like they don't have this moment where it's like, oh,

518
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,079
now I'm not gonna see my grandma for like ever.

519
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,759
Now you know, there's there's a weird thing. And I

520
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:38,799
get that because now they can see ghosts. But I

521
00:22:38,839 --> 00:22:40,720
was waiting for a little more with the dad and

522
00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:43,240
even at the end when they were going to see

523
00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:45,079
which we'll talk about the ending. I was not a

524
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,519
fan of that scene when they're going to see Dracula's castle.

525
00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:49,640
I thought they're gonna do like a Star Wars Force

526
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,880
awakenst because he said, oh, I'm always watching you guys.

527
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,799
I thought you're gonna see him watching them go to

528
00:22:54,799 --> 00:22:56,920
the castle and his presence is kind of there. But

529
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,640
they didn't. They they did whatever they did at the

530
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,079
end there, which I was found a little questionable there.

531
00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it a fair point with with some

532
00:23:06,759 --> 00:23:10,720
of that, for sure. Man, I totally had a point,

533
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,359
and I just I just got lost on it.

534
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,759
Speaker 1: So I talked about the dad the fishes bigger scene.

535
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, that's that's what it was, is like

536
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,440
they I thought it was a weird choice. I guess

537
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,920
it makes sense. They like Lydia couldn't see him and

538
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,640
that's why she couldn't be like the communicator for him

539
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,599
in the afterlife. Yeah, with with Astra, and that's how

540
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,160
that's part of the reason Astra didn't believe in that,

541
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,799
because like, well, why can't you talk to the one

542
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:35,079
person that I actually want to talk to? So it

543
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,599
was a weird choice that like, okay, even in the

544
00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:41,279
afterlife area, she Lydia can still not see him, but

545
00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:43,359
she can hear him. Like I was a little unclear

546
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,960
on that, Like it sounds like she can't hear what

547
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,599
he's saying, but she can't see him. So it made

548
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,000
that connection like a little bit awkward. But yeah, I

549
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,200
guess the way I took it is like and Astra

550
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,880
even has that line where she's like, oh, I just

551
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,960
wanted to say goodbye to him, and it's like, okay,

552
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,759
well she got the chance to do that, but she

553
00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:03,200
didn't seem very like chill about the whole thing, like

554
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,799
she had a smile on her face when she was

555
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:06,559
saying goodbye, even though it should be like a way

556
00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:08,880
more dramatic thing. But I also just see it as

557
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,799
like he's gonna come find them, like where like he's

558
00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:13,920
gonna come find the house or whatever that they go

559
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:14,359
live in.

560
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I was.

561
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 3: Gonna happen to end.

562
00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna find them, and then they didn't.

563
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,319
They did this weird this like a dream sequenced then

564
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,519
the movie, which I found like it worked. It was

565
00:24:24,599 --> 00:24:28,119
fun comedically, I liked, Okay, it was odd little turn

566
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:30,559
we go to Dracula's castle like that, and then we

567
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:33,359
you know, Jennerticus, he's a good looking dude. They get married,

568
00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:36,000
we jump to the berth and I liked the beatlejuice

569
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,039
gimmick and everything like that, but it felt, like I

570
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:39,319
said this Tam, when we got out of there, it

571
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,079
felt like an almost end credit scene of like, oh,

572
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,440
let's do something fun here because it's weird to it

573
00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:47,160
wakes up and then oh, she's you know, it's crazy

574
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,799
dream and looks overveal juices and bed and then wakes

575
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,200
up again and then it rolls to credit. So I

576
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,079
wasn't sure if that was then also trying to be like, well,

577
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,880
you know, we could always do a little bit more.

578
00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:00,480
I don't know, but I was. I didn't. I didn't

579
00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:02,519
love it as the ending of the movie. It was

580
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,880
just an odd ending for me. The actual whole double

581
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,720
dream sequence.

582
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

583
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,079
Speaker 4: It almost like I feel like a lot of people

584
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,599
don't like I don't know if any spost movie, but

585
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,559
like that it kind of has anything like that in Parasite,

586
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,359
and some people don't like that where there's like, oh, yeah,

587
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,079
you know what could be in the future, and like

588
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,720
maybe that is what happens, but maybe not.

589
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:23,799
Speaker 2: I agree.

590
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 4: That was maybe my one thing that I didn't like

591
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,920
about this movie was that ending.

592
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:28,079
Speaker 3: It.

593
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,079
Speaker 4: I just didn't feel like I needed it. I don't,

594
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:32,599
I don't know, I kind of I guess I maybe

595
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,839
wanted a happier ending. I suppose, so maybe that's too

596
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:39,000
simple minded of me, you know, I gotta have something

597
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:40,839
little more dramatic. But like, I don't know, I didn't

598
00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:43,519
really need this ambiguous ending of like, Ohizy truly gone

599
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,000
or not, assuming that he's definitely not gone, because when

600
00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:50,279
she started seeing visions of him again, it meant that

601
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,319
he was out there trying to connect with her now and.

602
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: What changed because yeah, she just said his name three times,

603
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:57,720
which has happened in every movie he disappears, But it's

604
00:25:57,759 --> 00:25:59,880
not like, I know, for some reason this time he

605
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,680
blew up into a big bubble and pop. But I

606
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,559
would assume he's just still kicking it somewhere, you know. Yeah, Yeah,

607
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,759
Do there have any thoughts on the dad and the ending?

608
00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:09,640
You didn't chime in there.

609
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his appearance is very brief, but I'm

610
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,799
I'm happy that we got to see him. The fish definitely,

611
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:17,400
it was like kind of like a gimmick that pulls

612
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,319
you out because you chuckle because they keep making these

613
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,799
like yes noises as they're like gnawing on him for

614
00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:26,920
all eternity. Ah, but I mean it's fine, it's something

615
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,920
I can overlook. It's just it felt tim Burtony. The

616
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,279
the ending, it definitely pulls you out. I was not

617
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,799
expecting to see that baby again.

618
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: They love that baby, me that baby, and they're like, Oh,

619
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,480
we're gonna put this as much as we can because

620
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,440
I guarantee this a grogu and I can't wait. After

621
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,880
this movie, there's gonna be a bunch of fucking little

622
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,680
baby baby beetlejuice merch. I can see it already.

623
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, just a really weird Did it highlight the chucky

624
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:56,319
part of your brain?

625
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: Taylor, No, it didn't. This is just felt like it

626
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:01,920
was his own thing.

627
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: Really I thought I thought it did because he had

628
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:06,640
like the just similar.

629
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 4: Like I'm just like with with Ortiga's character.

630
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: That's that's one thing. But when we were looking at

631
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,519
Wona Rider's character, I just felt like, like you just

632
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:20,599
can manipulate the real world. So when he like burst

633
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,039
her stomach out and this baby came out, I thought like,

634
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:26,359
didn't you just not just kill her? But no, she

635
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:29,119
was curly fine. It was just she's okay, Yeah, she

636
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,000
was okay. So uh, but yeah, this is the the ending.

637
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:34,640
It felt like, as you said, Travis, it could have

638
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,119
been a post credit scene. It did not have to

639
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,000
be the actual ending of the movie. Having a little

640
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:39,960
bit of something extra with the dat appear would have

641
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,920
been nice. But I my con lies in another part

642
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,720
of this movie, and it's really the only con I

643
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,960
have that I'm going to dock it on, like my

644
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,240
score in reference to other than that, though, it's just

645
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,319
everything is mine so minor that I can overlook at.

646
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,319
Speaker 2: And I, well, what is that gotta spill the beans?

647
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,319
Speaker 3: Here is full of guys. That con is the in

648
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,119
the church, the wedding song that beel Juice was doing

649
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,839
for a writer's character. It was just too long.

650
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, just too cut a minute from that, it was. Yes,

651
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,000
it felt like it's I feel like they were trying

652
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:21,359
to recapture the Deo scene, which is fine. I'm happy

653
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,519
they didn't do Deo again because some movies would have

654
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:25,519
done that. Right, I'm like, oh, that's just everyone loves this.

655
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:27,880
But there was a moment when they all surrounded the

656
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,599
cake and justin throw came back. I'm like, okay, this

657
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,960
is this has been on a minute too long. I

658
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:34,880
was with Tea in that one where it felt like

659
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,039
the joke had gone a little too far, even though

660
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:39,519
I did like it because it's a weird touch. I

661
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:42,400
love Michael Keaton lip singing anytime. I can't remember what

662
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,960
song they had him sing in the middle when he

663
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:47,920
was on the when he was on the structure and

664
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,000
he's playing guitar Olydian stuff, So I didn't mind it,

665
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,359
but yeah, just just tighten it up a little bit,

666
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,599
you know, tighten.

667
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: Big big disagree.

668
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: I think that sequence is fantastic, and I think it's

669
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:03,480
like it's it's it's like a big Broadway ending final sequence.

670
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,599
To me, it totally worked, and I think the biggest

671
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,400
part is just like I love the music in that sequence,

672
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,160
the song that he's singing. Sure, but then when we

673
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,359
also cut to like the little action sequences when Defoe

674
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:17,319
and his crew come through the same tomb, so we

675
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,519
cut to like this action tense music and then it

676
00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:21,680
cuts back to them back and forth. I thought that

677
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,319
was just really really well done, and like the whole

678
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:26,400
time I feel like the movie like all the threads

679
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,960
are being tied up at that point where all the

680
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,680
characters are kind of meeting in one place. That's when

681
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:35,640
the soul soccer lady shows up again. Justin Throw's character Rory,

682
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,079
he shows up again at the end too. But I

683
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,400
also I felt like that dynamic and one like, you know,

684
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,440
that Wednesday dance was like a big thing, and so

685
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,039
I feel like they were trying to replicate it fit

686
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:48,799
of where I having jenneral Ritega do like a little

687
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,759
dance sequence there with Catherin O'Hare, which I thought was

688
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:53,720
a really fun little duo kind of rated the end there,

689
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:55,680
So it makes sense that they would go for that.

690
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,839
But I think the really interesting part of that for

691
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,759
me is I just thought like Wanona's acting choices, like

692
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:06,119
her reactions to that were really interesting, where she of

693
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,400
course is like freaked out and this whole thing's going on,

694
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,119
But I feel like there was also a side of

695
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,799
it of like, man, this guy really does love me,

696
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:16,119
and he's putting on like the most epic show of

697
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,480
his love, and of course it's weird and beatle juicy,

698
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:21,400
but it's also like magnificent and beautiful at the same time,

699
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:23,759
and of course through that whole sequence, he's like forcing

700
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:26,000
people to talk and not talk. So it's not like

701
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,839
she's explaining any of this. But I just thought that's

702
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,440
at least what I saw in that scene, and I

703
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,240
think that added a really good dynamic. And of course

704
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:33,839
at the end, she still kicks him to the curb

705
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,799
and doesn't want to be with him because he is beetlejuice.

706
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:39,400
In fact, he just killed like thirty influencers and those

707
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,880
people ain't coming back. I think they're forever stuck in

708
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,839
those phones and just like maybe they all showed up

709
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,240
in the afterlife. I'm not sure, but they're absolutely gone.

710
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:49,079
Speaker 2: We talked about that.

711
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:51,559
Speaker 4: I forget if it was on like a news newscast

712
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,319
or on the retrospective last week, but those influencers. He

713
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:57,799
did kill those people, in my mind.

714
00:30:57,359 --> 00:30:59,039
Speaker 1: You think so, I think he felt. I think they're

715
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:00,519
just trapped and the spell.

716
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,119
Speaker 2: But who's gonna bring them out?

717
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: I say it's something like, but we don't see on

718
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,839
screen they pop out of the phone, and I think

719
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:09,559
they'll be okay, you know, that's what I'll tell myself,

720
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:10,200
that they're there.

721
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:11,119
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the thing.

722
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: Like these people would presumably we're live streaming on you know, Instagram,

723
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:17,119
TikTok whatever to and at least ever, there's like thirty people.

724
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,319
All of them have at least more than five million followers.

725
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,000
So now the whole world is gonna know about ghosts

726
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,359
and ghoules and uh, Beetlejuice and all these things. And

727
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:28,640
maybe they can't see all these things that are happening,

728
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:34,039
like they can't see Beetlejuice potentially, but they can see.

729
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:36,279
They can see like the faces getting sucked off and

730
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:37,960
all this stuff. And I don't know, I feel like

731
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,160
the whole world's gonna know about this so pretty I

732
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,640
feel locations there if they ever do a third movie, Yeah.

733
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, which I do not. I can see

734
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,400
the picture already of Beelejuice like in New York, Like

735
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,759
it's him in a big city doing some sort of

736
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:55,160
pos I don't want that. But I feel like if

737
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,640
a bunch of people heard about this Beetlejuice character, knowing

738
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,359
our world, I think they're gonna say that name, you know,

739
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,640
like a lot of people, and there's tons of ladies

740
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,920
out there, the.

741
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,079
Speaker 4: Beatle Juice Challenge. It's gonna be like the next tide

742
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:06,799
Pod challenge.

743
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think there's tons of lady influencers that

744
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,799
would marry Beatle Juice. One hundred percent that like that

745
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,200
he's getting hit to people.

746
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,559
Speaker 2: Who like marry his serial killers.

747
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent they will find Beal juice to

748
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,119
social media. And no, I agree with you that I

749
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:21,000
thought they were giving some services that I thought they

750
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:23,640
were going to get married at the end, because he

751
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,240
was kind of doing like a he influencers, you know

752
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,240
TVD but like he has called I think we kind

753
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:32,119
of called this and talked to us from the trailers

754
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,200
they are keeping hidden. But it's a guy. It kind

755
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,680
of seems like he might be on the good side

756
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,599
this go around, and he kind of was, so he's

757
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,960
still doing a selfish thing of like this time, he

758
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,720
wasn't even forcing Lydia to marry him. It was they

759
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,720
made a deal to get married, right, they.

760
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:48,759
Speaker 2: Made them like he did. Multiple problems that they had

761
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:49,519
when they were there.

762
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,519
Speaker 1: He exposed to just Throw, who was like which I

763
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,960
like because I feel like Throw's character. I wasn't sure

764
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,799
which way they were gonna go because there were times

765
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:58,680
he was being selfish, but there were times that it

766
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,720
seemed like he might be caring, so just wasn't sure

767
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,359
was he a caring idiot or was he a selfish idiot?

768
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,720
And it sounds ended up being he's a selfish idiot

769
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,319
for wanting and I could tell. But even the pills

770
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:11,799
at first he was trying to take them away and everything,

771
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:14,039
but then it was probably just like you know, because

772
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:15,559
her ghost powers everything. But when.

773
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: When he gives them to her, that's so good.

774
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like there was a line there about

775
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,799
the truth serve. That was a good moment. Uh. And

776
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:26,839
then he did send that serial the boys serial killer

777
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,680
to hell, which I didn't even talk about. That was

778
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,759
probably my favorite part of the movie because the same

779
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,599
thing as you guys. Once they didn't show the face,

780
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,720
it's like, okay, something's up here. I know the tam

781
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,839
like these people are dead, right, like like I'm, I'm

782
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,559
we're all picking up on this, right. But I liked

783
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,559
the twist of it was that he killed them and

784
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,119
not the original story of right he died and the

785
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,880
parents when he died of old age, it was okay,

786
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,599
he's like a little Ted Bundy type of character, and

787
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,319
I think that was good and I was happy that

788
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,480
was the case. Because when they met him or we

789
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:58,079
met him, I was like, uh, do I really want

790
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,759
or take his character have a love interest for like

791
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:02,720
the rest of the movie and like him be at

792
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,759
the wed Like there's a version of this movie where

793
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,519
everything goes and he's the same guy and the high jinks,

794
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:09,360
he's like, oh, look at this family I'm in now,

795
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,760
Like I didn't want that. I was so happy it

796
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,280
was okay, just this kind of asshole guy that's taking

797
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,519
advantage of her. I think the reveal is good when

798
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:19,159
they kissed and they float and little things like okay,

799
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,719
he's still in the nineties and he has the book,

800
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,199
but he just says he got out a yard sale,

801
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,599
but clearly as the book because he's dead. So I

802
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,119
thought that was a very fun, very you know, Disney

803
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,840
channeled horror movie type of twist, but like I think

804
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,800
beal Juice works and that kind of goosebumps, Disney channeled

805
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,800
kids for movie horror ones and it works as far

806
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,760
as like a I imagine younger people watching this, so

807
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,280
and yeah, that guy was good enough. That stuff where

808
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,920
I tried not to think about because it'd be like

809
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,719
beal Juice and Lydia are trying to find the daughter

810
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,119
and the killer, and then Beale just oh, I gotta

811
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,800
go wash them. And then after that he like bumps

812
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,559
into Katherine my hair and he's like, well, where are they?

813
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,199
Can you help me find them? And then he's back

814
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,360
in the line he sends the guy to hell. It

815
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,920
was very like odd pacing for me where fiel juice

816
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,840
was popping up, because sometimes he would just know exactly

817
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,159
where they are. And then in one scene he's asking,

818
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,480
you know, missus deed, It's like, hey, I have no

819
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,960
idea where they are. Can he help me? Even then

820
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,199
like why did he even go the I know why

821
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,599
he did story wise, but why did you go to

822
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,719
the washroom at that exact moment. Well, it's because he

823
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,039
would just be op and own everybody, right. So there's

824
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,280
a few things where it feels like there's like scenes

825
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,239
that are kind of missing and whatnot. But I like,

826
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,400
we got the one F bomb. I hate hate any

827
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,039
movie that bleeps the F bomb. I hated that they

828
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,519
bleeped it at the end that you already used your

829
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:37,599
one F bomb. So it just feels weird for him

830
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,599
to say like, see you later, fucker, and he hits

831
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:42,920
the thing and then when the soul Sucker comes back,

832
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,159
He's like, oh fuck, and they bleep it. Hate that.

833
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,400
I just don't like. I think then Mario do that too.

834
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,400
I can't remember recently another movie that they didn't say

835
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,400
the f W but they said something, and I just

836
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,960
that's not a gimmick you'll ever see me. Use I

837
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,320
don't like beeps in a movie.

838
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,559
Speaker 2: It takes me right out of Taylor It on the

839
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:01,480
ones he's directing.

840
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,159
Speaker 1: Yes, of course he can put as many beeps as

841
00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:04,599
he likes them.

842
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,039
Speaker 3: You mean in the animated Mario movie, they did a

843
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:08,559
bleep of fuck you in there.

844
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: Oh maybe it wasn't.

845
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: That wasn't.

846
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it was that. No is was

847
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,119
it fro? It was a fro. It's some very popular

848
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:19,800
movie and they did it. And I was like, ah,

849
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,119
I don't like always put some boots. That's what they did.

850
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:25,039
And that was a weird one because it's just like

851
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,480
Shrek's already done that. I digress. Just don't like that.

852
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:31,159
But good to know.

853
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah another uh yeah, I think I you know, I

854
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,639
think there are definitely criticism criticisms like we made about

855
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:40,320
the story details and like there's a lot of convenience.

856
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,480
There's a lot of coincidences in this and for whatever reason,

857
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:45,800
like they just don't bother me in this movie, Like

858
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:49,280
the fact that, uh the fact that Astroid I keep

859
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,960
forgetting her name for some reason. The fact that she

860
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,880
can't see any ghosts until this family, Like that's very,

861
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,039
very convenient. The fact that uh Lydia can see presumably

862
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:05,719
every single ghost in the world except for except for

863
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,239
the husband character kind of weird and convenient. The fact

864
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,760
that it seems like everyone can see the shrunken head

865
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,800
ghost people, Like, I don't know, did they come to

866
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,880
reality or are they there as ghosts. I was a

867
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,800
little confused about that when they went through Beetlejuice's bomb

868
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,440
door there, Like are they just back in the real

869
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:25,599
world or are they to.

870
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: The world like everybody can see them, because they don't

871
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:29,320
they like.

872
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 4: Do some like they can't just you can't just re

873
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:32,039
enter life.

874
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: I think it's because it was just a back door,

875
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,360
right that it kind of fudged around with it a bit.

876
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,559
Speaker 4: I guess had hair, Like she just kind of comes

877
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:43,199
back to the church scene and then like heads back

878
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,800
out again. There's definitely some confusing things for me in

879
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,199
terms if I really think about it, which I wasn't

880
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:51,039
when I was watching the.

881
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: Movie, which is the same thing as like, I think

882
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,320
we had that with the first one, right, and that's

883
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,960
even you know me like to question myself, I say,

884
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:01,679
and I gave that movie a ten, but I think

885
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,679
there's multip times to talk or like, if you pick

886
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,920
this apart, this doesn't really make sense, and like.

887
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,639
Speaker 2: What is simpler?

888
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:12,559
Speaker 4: So yes, where as this there's so much more going

889
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:15,719
on and different characters doing different stuff that it maybe

890
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,000
stands out a bit more.

891
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: Which I think they're kind of lamp shading in a bit.

892
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,199
But I still appreciate when they go through the door,

893
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,519
the emergency exit and they land on the sand planet,

894
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:27,199
which looked very the way the sand warm was moving,

895
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,559
very dune like like the things were, you know, the

896
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:33,639
sand was moving up and down definitely, so that happens.

897
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,280
But then I like when over take was like, oh,

898
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,239
this must be like the sand she's breaking all the

899
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,239
time to say, oh, it's a moon of Saturn. She's like, oh,

900
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,320
the rule like she says, like the rules or locations

901
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,480
something about like the world of the Dead doesn't really

902
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:49,039
make much sense, And that to me was kind of like, oh,

903
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,440
that's just kind of like Beetlejuice in general, right, And

904
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,320
that might be a bad reason for it, right, but

905
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,920
it's like we're just doing this because we like it

906
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,599
and whatever, because it's like, okay, you know what, when

907
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:01,920
are these cops, these dead cops really busted out? Like

908
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,119
why were they not after Beetlejuice at all in the

909
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:06,519
first one? Right, But it just we're just having fun

910
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:08,400
with it, right, And same thing like d Fae's character,

911
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,840
that character, even the Bride character that I don't think

912
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,280
they really need to be in this movie, but the

913
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,679
Defaux character. I just love this idea of this actor

914
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,840
who was using a hand grenade that I guess he

915
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,280
didn't know it was a real one, so it took

916
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,360
his life in part of his face. And I like

917
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,079
that he is I think because he wanted to continue

918
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,400
that role of the action hero. He went to them

919
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,480
and like I'll be a cop, I'll be a detective.

920
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,480
And I think Defo who can always like cheese it up,

921
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,960
he cheeses it up to like the really right amount

922
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,920
of he just looks like having such a good time

923
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,800
here when he's given his speech and he has the

924
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,639
cute cards I love the little back and forth he

925
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,840
had with like whoever his help or was. It was

926
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,119
very like a Them Fatals or like Blade Runner Detective Moor,

927
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,239
where there's always like some pretty blonde girl or brunette

928
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,159
and that's you know, giving him stuff.

929
00:39:57,159 --> 00:40:01,199
Speaker 4: And I thought, like like always giving him coffee so

930
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,360
that he can dramatically throw her on the ground, which

931
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,119
I think is just the best detail when they cut

932
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:07,920
to like these garbage can and there's just thirty cups

933
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,800
of coffee right there.

934
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's something where it's just like there's really

935
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:14,920
it doesn't add really much things to the plot, but

936
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,400
it adds just such a fun elment and I really

937
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,639
enjoyed that. And same thing I could take like a

938
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,440
little bit more of him, I would maybe cut the

939
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,960
soul sucker because I was kind of That's the thing

940
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,360
I was probably disappointed with the most is her character

941
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,960
thought it was the coolest sign. I liked it, but

942
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,960
I didn't think her scene they didn't really matter much,

943
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,679
especially because she just got taken up by that Sam

944
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,119
Warm the same time as the role, right, so it

945
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:37,840
didn't feel like this big moment just feels like maybe

946
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,920
because she's day Tim Burden it's like, well, you know,

947
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,760
I got this cool role for you, and let's put

948
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,639
you in here. So really that's like an edit I

949
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:45,800
would make, Like I think you'd literally just take her

950
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,199
of the movie and it changes nothing because him getting

951
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,840
back to Lydia has nothing to do with this wife.

952
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,719
It's with the dad dying, it's with Jenner Tega finding out,

953
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,239
it's with them going back for the funeral, has nothing

954
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,199
to do with hey, I'm about to die, could you

955
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,159
marry me? And if he just like break the curse

956
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,480
or something like that, it's literally she just comes to

957
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:05,000
the end like all right, you have to kill her.

958
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:08,599
But it gives Michael Keaton some great one liners and

959
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:11,039
somehow I didn't mind, like the mini origin they gave

960
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:12,599
him sometimes, like oh do you want to do that

961
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,239
by scene? That was fun?

962
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: Good, yeah, black and white, like the whatever Spanish voiceover.

963
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: That we put into it. Yeah, it was a good time. Yeah.

964
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

965
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 4: I think that it's definitely fair to criticize that character

966
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,880
because most movies would have that character capture Lydia, right,

967
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,159
because then that can be like able juice, but like,

968
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,280
how would she know about Lydia? Like that wouldn't really

969
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,119
make sense. So instead she just walks around hallways soul

970
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:39,280
sucks people, and then like moves on to the next one.

971
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: Well I thought they were doing that when she found

972
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,199
his desk, because remember she finds the picture and stomps

973
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,440
on it of Lydia, so that oh, this is how

974
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,400
we're gonna get the you know connection, but didn't happen.

975
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's kind of strange, like it doesn't really

976
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,360
go anywhere. But I don't I like the characters for

977
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,199
the the like, I think she was a fun villain,

978
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,920
even though she doesn't really like align much of the

979
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,119
actual characters in this movie. She's more just on the

980
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:06,800
side killing random side characters unfortunately. But I think for

981
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,880
me it's like, well, first I was like, man, is

982
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,880
this like canonizing this with like the Adams Family, because

983
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,039
she just looks exactly like the mom from Mortia Adams Family. Yeah,

984
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:19,400
but clearly it's just you know, Burton's aesthetic and all that.

985
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, definitely clean it up.

986
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: But I gotta say that character introduction, it's got to

987
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,039
be like one of the best, like character introductions of

988
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:32,119
all time. Breaks out of this box, these body parts

989
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:35,079
just coming together, stapling herself up and then picking up

990
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:37,679
Danny Defio and sucking the soul out of them, turning

991
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:43,679
into like a little fucking Valleyville Jalloween costume thing raggedy

992
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,840
on the ground there. So yeah, I think, I think

993
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,239
to me, she added to the movie even I think

994
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:51,679
partially what adds to it is that she had like

995
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,920
very little screen time, so it didn't feel like it

996
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,760
made the movie Dragon. It was just like every once

997
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,199
in all we yea quick cut toal quick shot and

998
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,880
she's taking out some random lackies. I don't know, I

999
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,119
think it was fun. It didn't really detract from the

1000
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:03,960
movie at all for me.

1001
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,119
Speaker 2: I also love it.

1002
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: I think it's the second guy that she kills, the

1003
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,800
the guy who is like the dry cleaner, uh, and

1004
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,719
the cops have that set up there and they have

1005
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,320
like the chalk outline of his body. It's just like

1006
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,239
this mini little chalk out lighting around his like shrunken body.

1007
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,840
I just every little I feel like there's so many

1008
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,119
little details that I'm just gonna forget in this review

1009
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,519
because just I feel like so many shots in this

1010
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:29,559
you just pause and really admire the artistry, like the

1011
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:32,480
little jokes on the side, or like the little detail

1012
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:35,000
they went to make this scene feel more fun and

1013
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:37,159
energetic than needs to be. There's just so many little

1014
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:39,199
details in this movie that made me so happy.

1015
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,159
Speaker 3: The newspapers I want to pause on and just like

1016
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,000
read all the articles and the headlines.

1017
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:46,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good stuff.

1018
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,039
Speaker 1: Tim. What do you think about the bride and Dafoe?

1019
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:50,639
There you and talk about him?

1020
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:53,599
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, to the Foe was great. He was cracking

1021
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,559
me up. He was just such a such a funny character,

1022
00:43:56,679 --> 00:43:59,719
being the actor who wants to be a real detective

1023
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,079
here and yeah, just he really really was having fun

1024
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:10,199
with it. I think the uh, the bride, the ex wife, Yeah,

1025
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,159
she's she wasn't anything like I was thinking, Okay, we're

1026
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:17,960
gonna have like this super crazy evil villain. This is

1027
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,840
what she's she's gonna be. But she wasn't that. She

1028
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,960
was more low key, and I'm actually kind of happy

1029
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,960
about that. Uh. There were so many different storylines that

1030
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,400
were kind of over branching with each other and intertwining,

1031
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,280
and so her just kind of like saundering around trying

1032
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,719
to catch up the beetlejuice. I enjoyed it. I thought

1033
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,679
it was fun. And I know this was obviously in

1034
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,440
the trailer, but just seeing it on the big screen

1035
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,360
and seeing how it was just it was sized up.

1036
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,039
When Willem Dafoe is like, have you seen this woman?

1037
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,159
Beetlejuice's eyes and tongue pop out of his head and

1038
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,599
then it goes back and he's like, no, I've never seen.

1039
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: Her, Like no, my life, in my afterlife, I've never

1040
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,000
seen her at all.

1041
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, that really really cracked me up.

1042
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, she was very cool.

1043
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: He was introduced and like the what was it called

1044
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:10,920
in the shelf, the unclaim unclaim Parts.

1045
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: Something like that.

1046
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:14,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was just clever because

1047
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,960
you see that written on the shelf and then all

1048
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,039
the boxes open up and it's actually just parts. It's like, oh,

1049
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:20,960
that's clever.

1050
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: Very clever, very clever. Yeah, I got a place. If

1051
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,559
no one has a place, place us play fit. I

1052
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:33,559
was surprised how much screen time and obviously it's not

1053
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:35,840
the actor, but how much screen time the character of

1054
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,400
the dad caught in this movie. I thought we saw, okay,

1055
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,800
we saw the grave and the trailer that makes sense.

1056
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,840
Kill him off, you know, for whatever reason, he can't

1057
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,440
be a ghost. And they even said this one. But

1058
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,280
you get a clay mation sequence which you know they show,

1059
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,800
but yeah, that was really cool of how all this

1060
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,079
is how he died. He drowned. No, they plane crash, No,

1061
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,840
the shark got him, Okay. Uh. Then later on you

1062
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,599
see him going in to the lobby. He is a

1063
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:05,039
half eaten his all his shoulders and head completely gone.

1064
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,519
He can still talk. When he talks, he sprits out

1065
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:08,280
and everything like that.

1066
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,079
Speaker 3: Uh.

1067
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: Catherine Eric's character is like very sad about his death

1068
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,480
because it is a partner. She's no how she's gonna

1069
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,920
go on without him, does a whole seance which leads

1070
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,320
to her death. Classic fashion of buyas these you know

1071
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,119
venom unvenomous snakes, like the venom has been taken out

1072
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,280
or they've been defanged, but they haven't so bad deal,

1073
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:28,000
and then at the end they get reunited to go

1074
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,920
in the soul Train forever. So I was surprised how

1075
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,079
much of an aspect that was in the movie. And

1076
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:35,559
that's fine because that's a character that's in there. Obviously

1077
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,800
there's different stuff with the actor nowadays it's aren't good,

1078
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,559
but it's like it's still the character for the movie.

1079
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,760
I still don't know if they had to do that,

1080
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,960
but I was surprised they did, and uh yeah, and

1081
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,199
it gave us some fun stuff of like to throw,

1082
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,679
Like I think they he got a lot of fun

1083
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,119
one liners about pretending he knew the grandfather and saying, oh,

1084
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:57,159
he'd want this, he wants this propose and everything. Kathery

1085
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,880
her like he hated big speeches, like there was a

1086
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:02,400
good comedic gems in there. But yeah, that threw me

1087
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,239
off guard there.

1088
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was my biggest surprise, especially hot

1089
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:11,159
off our retrospective last week and then our conversation about

1090
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:14,159
that after and what's happened with him, which is not

1091
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,719
good stuff in recent times. I love that his grave

1092
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:21,480
was a like shark fin. It was shaped like a

1093
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:24,000
shark fin. That was a really great detail. I love

1094
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:26,920
when he's in the lobby waiting room and he sits

1095
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,519
down on the bench and he's next to a surfer

1096
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:31,159
who clearly also got bit in half, and they just

1097
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,800
throw that hang. But I love that he's just like

1098
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,960
a bumbling fool, like he's just walking around the afterlife. Yeah,

1099
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,000
people don't really care about him, People don't really know

1100
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,119
who he is. Always the blood spurty out. He just

1101
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,000
kind of doesn't really seem to understand what's going on,

1102
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,360
which makes sense if he lost all of his organs

1103
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,039
that provide him any sort of hearing and vision.

1104
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was very.

1105
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 4: Surprised about how much he was in it and how

1106
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,639
much the movie really revolved around the death of his

1107
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,840
character and how big of a deal it was. But yeah,

1108
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,159
I think it really worked and it was It's kind

1109
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:06,039
of an impressive thing to do. Like I feel like

1110
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:08,920
something like the like I don't know what.

1111
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if Tim.

1112
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,599
Speaker 4: Burton considered having Alec Baldmin in this movie considering the

1113
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:16,239
controversy around him, which is like very different than the

1114
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,320
controversy around this actor that I already.

1115
00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:18,599
Speaker 2: Forget his name.

1116
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,119
Speaker 4: But it's like they really just brush what happened to

1117
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:27,400
that couple was the whylands right or the like the Mayfairs.

1118
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,760
They really brushed that aside the line it's like, oh,

1119
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,639
that's that's convenient, and they just.

1120
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: Kind of found a loop to get them to the

1121
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,760
ad for like done.

1122
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,679
Speaker 3: Did you see them actually in the miniature during the intro?

1123
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: I didn't see them. I saw their car in the.

1124
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,679
Speaker 3: Car in the intro it shows, uh, like you see

1125
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:47,679
the miniature and everything like that. But as they're getting

1126
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,079
to the main house. You actually see the Maitland's climbing

1127
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:52,159
up the side of this hill.

1128
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,159
Speaker 1: Okay, I saw that. Okay, so I didn't know that

1129
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,760
was them, but okay, so, but yeah, and I feel

1130
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,960
like we called that in the maybe not as quick,

1131
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,519
but I think we called the how would they be

1132
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:04,559
in this movie? And oh, they're probably just gonna find

1133
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,199
their way to the afterlife. And that's exactly what happened, right,

1134
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,199
But it was still good. I thought it was a

1135
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:11,159
good transition to they do that, and then right away

1136
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:12,480
they go up to the attic and that's when you

1137
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:15,159
get to pull the sheets and you see everything again.

1138
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,039
And we didn't mention the opening credits. This movie is

1139
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:20,239
almost identical the first one, but this time they're using

1140
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,559
a real city instead of the model this time, which

1141
00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:26,199
is funny because the beginning couldn't tell, like it was

1142
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,920
very far out shots and they're showing things move and everything, so,

1143
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:32,039
you know, a nice, nice little tribute. It's still better

1144
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:35,760
with the models because it's just real world houses and buildings, but.

1145
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 3: Well, it transitioned very seamlessly because there were some parts

1146
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,079
were definitely true the real world. You could see the vehicles,

1147
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:43,519
the lights, and then all of a sudden you're looking

1148
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:45,440
at like it's a barn and there's like there's a

1149
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,599
toy horse miniature in the bar, and it's like, Okay,

1150
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:50,519
when did this transition here? It was really really well done.

1151
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and speak of that too, because they go across

1152
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,400
the bridge. I realized I thought this might be an aspect.

1153
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,920
It wasn't. But there's a segment where it looks like

1154
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,199
Ortea is gonna be die like three to four different times,

1155
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,360
and I thought there was gonna be something there that

1156
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,559
maybe she does die, but Lydia works with Beale Juice

1157
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:09,760
to maybe, you know, get a mulligan and get her

1158
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,920
to come back to the real world, or maybe she

1159
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,000
would have swapped places. But I genuinely thought there was

1160
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:17,239
a chance she was gonna die in that segment because

1161
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,599
I just thought they were doing a bunch of like

1162
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,280
joke deaths. But then she was gonna really die at

1163
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,400
the end. But she didn't. She just met a guy

1164
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,679
who did happen.

1165
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 2: To die, you know, so mm hmm, yeah, definitely.

1166
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:30,119
Speaker 1: Let's tick our final ad break. We'll be back with

1167
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:32,480
final thoughts and probably rains all like a jazz we'll

1168
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:36,719
be right back, and we're back, Dylan, I heard some breath.

1169
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: We're you gonna Yeah, the brepeaketh the breath is loose. Yeah.

1170
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,639
Speaker 4: I wanted to highlight that, you know, we're on a

1171
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:47,239
writer as Lydia really gets promoted to the main star

1172
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,400
of this movie, which I think is great. It like,

1173
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:53,679
that's definitely obviously Beatlejuice in Michael Keaton, that's iconic, but

1174
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,119
I feel like that was definitely the takeaway from that

1175
00:50:56,159 --> 00:50:59,400
original movie is is her and playing that character and

1176
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,199
it's become very iconic, and I think it's I think

1177
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,679
it's very fitting that she gets to be kind of

1178
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,920
the star of this movie really revolves around her. She

1179
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,840
definitely has the most screen time. She gets to do

1180
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,119
a bunch of different acting, like she gets to show

1181
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:13,880
off all sorts of different chops, which I was really

1182
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,280
happy with. I think it was a really really smart

1183
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,800
setup that they had for the character. Where obviously it's

1184
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,280
been whatever, I forget. I think it's like fifteen years

1185
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,119
is what they say, is how long it's been in

1186
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:25,320
this even though in real life it's been longer than that.

1187
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,800
It doesn't really matter how many years it's been exactly,

1188
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,320
but I like that she has taken on this role

1189
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,079
and turned it into the ghost House this TV show.

1190
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:37,559
She has her friend, her fans the ghosties. I think

1191
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:41,000
she calls them, yeah, whatever it was. Yeah, I just

1192
00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:44,760
I think that was a really fun setup for the character.

1193
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,239
It makes a lot of sense. It's kind of just fun,

1194
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,880
like to see what she's been doing in the meantime.

1195
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:51,159
And then I think it kind of leads nicely into

1196
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,880
the situation where she has with her daughter where they're

1197
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,599
very distant because of what happened with the dad and

1198
00:51:56,639 --> 00:51:58,280
how much she doesn't want to talk about it, how

1199
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,760
much she kind of keeps a lot of that stuff inside,

1200
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:03,960
and then she's obviously being just kind of manipulated.

1201
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,079
Speaker 2: By Rory and all that.

1202
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think the whole set up around that

1203
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,199
character was really well done and all that there was

1204
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:11,719
no debate as soon as her daughter was in trouble,

1205
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,760
even if they've had this rocky past. Immediately she was like, Okay,

1206
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,519
I did know one possible way I could solve this,

1207
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:19,800
and even though it's my worst nightmare, I'm gonna do

1208
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,000
it immediately, no hesitation whatsoever. So I just think she

1209
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:25,000
got to really shine in this movie. I'm a big

1210
00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:26,599
one on a fan, so I think it was great

1211
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:29,199
to see her on the big screen popping off again. Yeah,

1212
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:31,559
Stranger Things kind of put her back in the public

1213
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:33,400
eye in a big way. People are a big fan

1214
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,280
of her again. But I think it was really cool

1215
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,280
to see So I was really happy to see.

1216
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:40,559
Speaker 1: That that alien alien next, you know, lots of alien

1217
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:43,000
stuff popping off, you never know, get that cyborg back

1218
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:46,519
in there, the synthetic. But before we continue, and I

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agree with a lot of Dylan slowt and can expand

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that uses is lose. But yes, I liked the GV

1246
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:58,079
juice is flowing. Yeah, I like that setup with their character.

1247
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,880
I actually really liked how they incorporate rated beal Juice

1248
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,559
coming back, where it was a very Disorrington like in

1249
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:08,760
my opinion, poorly edited but on purpose, poorly like it

1250
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,000
was a flashback, but it wasn't like an obvious like

1251
00:54:11,039 --> 00:54:13,280
she sees a guy with striped shirt and it's a

1252
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,800
very quick shot of bealu justice in some the popcorn

1253
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,519
and then it's like gone. But it's like I feel like,

1254
00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:19,559
usually other movies that might happen, and that Beal Juice

1255
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:22,000
and Popcorn might be like a lot longer, a lot

1256
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:25,199
more specific, but it feels like it's just like a

1257
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,960
frameer two is put in there quickly and then you

1258
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,039
take it out. And I really like that. And then

1259
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:31,719
we got that again later on. But when she was

1260
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,639
talking to General Tega's character Astrid, we saw it from

1261
00:54:34,679 --> 00:54:37,559
her perspective where she saw another guy with a striped

1262
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:40,400
outfit and she freaked down saw beal Juice again, but

1263
00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:42,760
we didn't see beale Juice. We just saw what would

1264
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,440
be like if you were talking to you know, uh

1265
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:47,800
Lydia while she saw beal Juice, but you couldn't. So

1266
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,280
I thought I liked that little thing. Where again I

1267
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,320
can't how did he actually get back. I was just

1268
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,039
hit them saying beale juice. But I don't know why

1269
00:54:56,039 --> 00:54:59,119
he like because I thought even the dad dying, he's like, oh,

1270
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:01,639
now's my time. But that did that again. I didn't

1271
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:03,639
really have anything to do there. It was Rory saying, oh,

1272
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,760
let's get let's power you through this bill. So again

1273
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:09,960
some strange like lines drawn of trying to get beal

1274
00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:12,599
Juice back there. But I did like the idea of Okay,

1275
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:15,679
he's his presence again, the idea. I like the idea

1276
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,400
of him creeping in, even though the more I think

1277
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,239
about it, that wasn't really an aspect. He wasn't trying

1278
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,679
to get back to her. He thought about her. He

1279
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,000
apparently thinks that she's the love of his life, but

1280
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,679
he wasn't actively like working to get to her. He

1281
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,639
still needed one of them to say beal juice. And

1282
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:31,679
even how he got back to her was of someone

1283
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,159
else's doing. It wasn't even oh he put up that

1284
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:36,519
young serial killer kid to kidnap her and stuff. So

1285
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,719
like the concept. Maybe now where I think about there's

1286
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,400
some issues, but I still like how it was done

1287
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,960
in the film with those quick flashes and he's kind

1288
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,159
of just around, And I like when she tried to

1289
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:47,559
explain it to Rory and he didn't buy a single

1290
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:50,400
second of a second of it. And that therapist scene

1291
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,159
was fun enough with lots of visual gags going on,

1292
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,760
Like I've seen the behind the scenes where that thing

1293
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,000
of the guts that's all practical, where they have like

1294
00:55:57,039 --> 00:55:59,480
a built in dummy legs and they pull and I'm

1295
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,239
sure there's some cgi for the guts, like glistening and everything,

1296
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,039
but there is a scene of them just pulling out

1297
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:06,360
a bunch of guts out of Keaton. So very fun.

1298
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,599
Speaker 3: The scene when they're in the church and they're dancing,

1299
00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:13,480
and you get like the brief little like flashbacks like

1300
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,199
overlays of them when they were younger from the first movie.

1301
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,320
They quickly panned to the shot of the dog. Now,

1302
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,960
that tells me that the haunting at the beginning when

1303
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:26,920
she was on like the ghost House show and she's

1304
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,679
like showing how the dog was being terrified and haunted.

1305
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:32,119
So is that beal juice from inssing that he was

1306
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:34,119
doing the haunting in that house. That's how I took it.

1307
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: Hmmm. Possibly it could be, Yeah, because there's.

1308
00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 3: No other dog featured anywhere else.

1309
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:41,119
Speaker 1: In the movie. I didn't understand it.

1310
00:56:41,199 --> 00:56:43,599
Speaker 3: The dog at the beginning, so to me is like, Okay,

1311
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:45,360
he was reminiscing about that haunting.

1312
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:47,679
Speaker 1: Isn't the same dog though, that's the question.

1313
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,199
Speaker 3: Sure it was the exact same dog?

1314
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, damn, Taylor, that's a freaking deep poll dude.

1315
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 3: Nice fine, well, if it's true.

1316
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Which was funny because they were doing that the

1317
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,280
you know, the l ron montage of all the people

1318
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,679
he had loved, but they only had like Lydia, the

1319
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,719
dog and her. So it was I was hoping they

1320
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,840
were actually gonna throw some different, like ghastly characters that

1321
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,920
we maybe never met in there, like other people he

1322
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,400
had loved, if their ghost characters, But that didn't happen.

1323
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: Travis, you mentioned him earlier, but Rory played by Justin Throw.

1324
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,880
I don't know if I've really seen this guy. Maybe

1325
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,599
I've seen him in something, but yeah, I think like

1326
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,119
ninety nine percent of the humor around his character worked

1327
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:29,519
for me. Which that's a character that I mean, he's,

1328
00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:33,639
you know, intentionally giant douchebag, could be very annoying and

1329
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:35,679
annoying to the point where it's not funny annoying but

1330
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,840
just actually annoying. But I think he pulled it off perfectly.

1331
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,440
I don't even know what I can say about a mother.

1332
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,760
I would just be repeating funny lines or sequence that

1333
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,719
he had. But I really I really enjoy that character

1334
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,400
and the humor around him, and I like that he

1335
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,000
got what was coming to him at the end.

1336
00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: Did you I thought you watch him? Did you watch

1337
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,320
the show Maniac with Justin Jonah Hill and Emmastona.

1338
00:57:56,719 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: I've never seen that movie or that.

1339
00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:00,519
Speaker 1: Oh okay, maybe it's just your interesting. Yeah, he's in that.

1340
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:04,639
He's in Charles Angels, He's in Yeah, he's in Zulander.

1341
00:58:04,639 --> 00:58:08,159
He plays the evil Breakdance DJ. But he does a

1342
00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:12,039
lot of these type of assholey kind of arrogant type

1343
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:14,039
of roles, and he's pretty good. He's he plays the

1344
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,760
some Spice I can't remember the name of it, but

1345
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,960
he's in the Last Jedi, remember, Taylor, he's the actual

1346
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,800
Spicer they want to get like the Master Slice or

1347
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,400
Master code Breaker or whatever.

1348
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the Red.

1349
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in that. So he pops up in a

1350
00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:30,880
lot of stuff and he's very good. He's not everyone's

1351
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,039
cup of tea, but he's definitely my cup of tea.

1352
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:35,440
I enjoy just and throw a lot. He's uh, he's

1353
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,480
always makes things better good. Taylor was laughing like pretty

1354
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:40,239
much everything that happened with them the whole time.

1355
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: So, yeah, just the way he was. He was talking

1356
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:48,840
about like good vibes and energies and he's just such

1357
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:50,199
a do so.

1358
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,559
Speaker 1: Him and Mark ruffling poor things. You just have a

1359
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:56,079
knack for like the loser ex boyfriend type of character.

1360
00:58:56,119 --> 00:58:57,320
We got to get you to play on those in

1361
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,360
a movie. You just do you like that aesthetic of

1362
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,480
the very comedic loser boyfriend?

1363
00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:05,599
Speaker 3: I do. I'd yeah, sign me up. I'd love to

1364
00:59:05,639 --> 00:59:09,000
get my poor things. Mark Ruffalo like the fuck away,

1365
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:10,679
like talking to a dog or.

1366
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:14,119
Speaker 1: Suck you up dog like him and Mark like these

1367
00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:16,239
two characters. They'd be best friends because they just would

1368
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,559
be complaining about the women in life and think they

1369
00:59:18,599 --> 00:59:20,760
did no wrong, you know, and they're both egotistical.

1370
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: So man, when, oh my god, when when the ex

1371
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:27,519
bride showed up and Beal Juice is like, you know,

1372
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:29,679
you need to find someone that really, you know, kill

1373
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:33,440
cares for you. And he snaps his fingers and his

1374
00:59:33,519 --> 00:59:36,039
clothes come off and it says I love Dolores, that

1375
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,159
fucking killed me on his shirt. I was dying laughing

1376
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:42,079
at that because she looked like she was semi interested

1377
00:59:42,159 --> 00:59:44,880
for a second and then it phased out.

1378
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:51,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else that we have not touched upon any characters.

1379
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:54,199
It's nice da Beato. The second he started talking, knew

1380
00:59:54,679 --> 00:59:57,199
knew he's there. Very kind of fun. I can't remember

1381
00:59:57,199 --> 00:59:59,719
if he was in double but fun for me. Years later,

1382
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,639
get like a Batman returns because he obviously played Penguin

1383
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:05,039
and Keaton played Batman, so fun have them in a

1384
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:07,599
Tim Burdon film again, it's like a timber and likes

1385
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:09,320
to see that bag because I can't remember the last

1386
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,440
time I have you seen Dumbo? Were they both in that?

1387
01:00:12,519 --> 01:00:13,599
I know Keid wasn't Dumbo.

1388
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,679
Speaker 3: I didn't see them.

1389
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe they were in there, But for me,

1390
01:00:17,079 --> 01:00:20,079
I was happy to see. And uh, I liked the

1391
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:22,280
look of Divido's character too. I don't know what happened.

1392
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,039
I guess the original gender must have found his way

1393
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:27,360
to the afterlife. Now maybe he's in a better place,

1394
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,960
but uh yeah, now he's And I did actually like

1395
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:32,920
the effect of when their souls got sucked. I liked

1396
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,360
them just being like these skin bags, very wrinkly, like

1397
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,599
that poor that character Bob. He went through the fucking

1398
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,400
ringer in this movie. I actually was mad that he died,

1399
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,480
not like a oh I give the movie negative, just

1400
01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:47,519
that like Dafoe was intimidating him, Beale just intimidating him.

1401
01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:49,960
He was hiding under the desk like all like shiveling

1402
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,079
and scared and then the soul sucker found him and

1403
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,519
he's just scared of his mine. Poor Bob. I was

1404
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:57,480
root formed to make it out and he didn't.

1405
01:00:57,639 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: So man, random thought.

1406
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:03,159
Speaker 4: But I was at a museum when I was in

1407
01:01:03,199 --> 01:01:05,679
Europe lust year and saw like an actual shrunken head.

1408
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 3: Oh.

1409
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,719
Speaker 4: It's a really trippy thing to see. It's like, man,

1410
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:11,960
this is just someone's like actual head from one hundreds

1411
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,800
of years ago. It's like a very weird.

1412
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:14,639
Speaker 1: Oh.

1413
01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: It gives me the.

1414
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,079
Speaker 1: H that's hard for the mind of process, like a yeah,

1415
01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:21,079
human head that's been taken down to that size. I

1416
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:22,280
feel like it'd be the same way if I were

1417
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,239
to see like an actual mummified person, like if they

1418
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,079
were break open a tomb and it's like there's just

1419
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:27,840
a person.

1420
01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:30,719
Speaker 4: That's it's pretty much rad but just distilled into one head.

1421
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of that. I never saw a

1422
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,559
full shrunken head. But if you ever go in to

1423
01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:36,559
New Orleans, I recommend you go to like the the

1424
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:38,920
Voodoo Areas and that has like a lot of weird

1425
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,519
stuff there. That's another story for another time. Like I

1426
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:45,039
got some stuff there, but I I left it. I

1427
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:48,079
was like a same thing. He gv's of like bad

1428
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,119
bad juju, you know, so, but all those guys are

1429
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:52,039
great again because I think the muscles were practical. But

1430
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:55,000
that's that's where I like that really there was there

1431
01:01:55,079 --> 01:01:56,679
was CG like I think like when they had the

1432
01:01:56,719 --> 01:01:59,400
cake and it's like raining something, but all the CGI

1433
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,239
and then that could have been what is it they

1434
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,199
claim as like they could have done some sort of

1435
01:02:05,239 --> 01:02:07,960
animation stuff like that, There was no because I literally

1436
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,480
just watched the movie today, which is like a smaller

1437
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:14,039
it's Deliverance on Netflix where there's multiple CGI scenes. It's

1438
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:16,119
just a small exorcism film. But they took me out

1439
01:02:16,199 --> 01:02:18,639
every single time. I was like, I really wish they

1440
01:02:18,679 --> 01:02:20,199
just found a way to do a practical not do

1441
01:02:20,239 --> 01:02:23,639
it all. There was no to my knowledge maybe when

1442
01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:25,400
I watch again, but there was no big scene. It

1443
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,159
was like even if you could tell it with CGI,

1444
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,360
it was like, oh, this looks really batter all. It

1445
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,079
took me right out, Like I thought they had a

1446
01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:33,760
very good mix of the two with this one.

1447
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,159
Speaker 2: So M yeah, I think.

1448
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:40,559
Speaker 4: My last note might be just once again highlighting all

1449
01:02:40,599 --> 01:02:46,320
the fun character designs in the Afterlife, like man that

1450
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:49,280
like saw trap dude who's like in a in like

1451
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,400
a water cage, but he's been like crushed down. I

1452
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,639
don't know what was going on there, but that was

1453
01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:58,760
that was pretty terrifying. And like the Santa Claus was

1454
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,960
like burnt to a crisp. Must have gone through a chimney.

1455
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,400
That was you know, had the fire on something like that.

1456
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: That's great. I was really worried what was that going

1457
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:10,039
happened there with the kids with me, like, oh, don't

1458
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:13,880
make no Sanna joke about certain existing or not. I

1459
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,840
was really worried. Luckily they didn't, and I thought those

1460
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,559
other kids, but you never know. In some media, it's like, uh, oh,

1461
01:03:18,679 --> 01:03:20,800
I could see Beal Juice saying something, but I like,

1462
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,960
there's just merry Christmas, Like he was still jollying up

1463
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,039
some very Christmas. You had the guy that died from

1464
01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:31,960
a hot dog eating outfit contests that looked like Colin Yeah,

1465
01:03:32,039 --> 01:03:33,519
yeah sucks.

1466
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I guess just also, uh, Katherine Mahair

1467
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,639
I mentioned in a retrospective, I was hoping that she

1468
01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:40,159
would be a bigger part of this movie and she

1469
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,039
definitely felt like it. And I feel like with the

1470
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,199
what they're doing with her characters, especially this being in

1471
01:03:45,239 --> 01:03:47,440
a post Shit's Creek world, it would have been really

1472
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:50,079
easy for her to fall into, like, Okay, the characters

1473
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:50,880
are very similar.

1474
01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:52,679
Speaker 2: People love that character, people.

1475
01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 4: Love Shits're gonna like go into that dip into that

1476
01:03:56,079 --> 01:03:57,920
acting bag. But I feel like she didn't. I feel

1477
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,239
like she kept onto some of those elements that are crossovers.

1478
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: Between the character.

1479
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 4: But I feel like the performance was still something very

1480
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,719
different and definitely a continuation of that character. So I

1481
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,519
was really happy to see that. And she's just she's

1482
01:04:09,639 --> 01:04:12,719
just such a joy. She's always so fun. That she

1483
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,679
has this new job too, where she's like turning her

1484
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,559
trauma into like art exhibits, and there's this weird exhibit

1485
01:04:18,639 --> 01:04:22,960
of her just reacting to things in terrifying ways. It's

1486
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:27,639
so just weird and silly and stupid and decorating the

1487
01:04:27,679 --> 01:04:30,400
house in like black clothing as well. It's just such

1488
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,960
an over the top thing that she would do.

1489
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, whatever terms she had for like some

1490
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:36,719
sort of it's like it's not this, but it's like

1491
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,159
a sheet of passing. But it's just like it's like

1492
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,639
keep the house. And I forgot such a random pull

1493
01:04:41,679 --> 01:04:45,039
they have like the daughter of the real estate agent

1494
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:45,840
and who Now.

1495
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,039
Speaker 4: I hadn't seen them the first one enough to like

1496
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:50,159
be like, okay, who is this the same character a

1497
01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:50,840
different characters?

1498
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then even this like oh this is mini

1499
01:04:53,559 --> 01:04:56,480
whatever like they already say it like that that character

1500
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:57,119
has a daughter of.

1501
01:04:57,119 --> 01:04:59,679
Speaker 4: Oversell too, even with the post credit or the you know,

1502
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,199
not actual post credit thing, but you know, obviously it's

1503
01:05:02,199 --> 01:05:04,079
a dream sequence but kind of like trying to set

1504
01:05:04,159 --> 01:05:05,440
up the future potentially.

1505
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, so no, I like that. I like that to me,

1506
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,960
like the art evolution they gave that character it all Finn.

1507
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:15,119
They even had this video for tomb like, oh yeah,

1508
01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:17,880
the the you know, the sculptures were past me, so

1509
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,079
onto evolve and it's just like quick little stuff where

1510
01:05:20,119 --> 01:05:22,039
you don't even have to have exposition. It's just on

1511
01:05:22,119 --> 01:05:23,559
the side in the video and a museum and you

1512
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:25,679
get a little stuff of okay, she's doing this type.

1513
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,039
Oh I had a thought, Oh what I did like

1514
01:05:29,159 --> 01:05:31,400
and this is one where a good thing, a legacy sequel,

1515
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,360
and do it improved on the original because they were

1516
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,400
at one point talking. It was when they're on the

1517
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,360
porch and why not this is like you really didn't

1518
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,000
want anything to do with me? Like we didn't even

1519
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:42,360
talk that much, and we talked about them in the

1520
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,280
original hell like they're a mother and daughter, stepmother and daughter,

1521
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,239
but still they're in the same household, but they don't

1522
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,320
they don't really interact that much. It doesn't even feel

1523
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,000
like they are in the same family. So I like

1524
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:55,000
that they brought that up and kind of chucked up

1525
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:58,320
to like, well, you were annoying and then you resented me,

1526
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,320
So it's like that's kind of a combo of I

1527
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,119
disliked you, you disliked me, and then eventually we found

1528
01:06:03,159 --> 01:06:05,039
our way and that was just like it's an easy

1529
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:07,719
script writing, but it's to be like, yeah, Jenner Tello

1530
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,360
is a pain because you were a pain and it's

1531
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,440
your turn to get that right. So I kind of

1532
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,199
liked them calling that. I was like a fourth wall breakup.

1533
01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:16,719
When you watch the original does not feel like they

1534
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,199
are a family whatsoever. But they use that as a

1535
01:06:19,199 --> 01:06:21,480
plot device to be like, ah, that was just part

1536
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:23,320
of growing up and everything that and I like to

1537
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,480
and they say something about oh, because they're talking about

1538
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,519
ashrad Is, you know, oh, you know, her father's dead,

1539
01:06:29,519 --> 01:06:31,199
and she puts that on me and she doesn't forgive

1540
01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:33,760
me get da and Catherine goes, oh, yeah, you did

1541
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,800
the same thing to me, and Lenny's like, my mom's

1542
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,480
still alive. It's like a fun little piece. Like I

1543
01:06:39,159 --> 01:06:41,840
literally anytime I watch people juice, I thought her mom

1544
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,239
had passed on and this was a remarriage, so it's

1545
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,639
like nice, like just a nice little colonel that, No,

1546
01:06:46,719 --> 01:06:49,000
it's just a divorce and her birth mom is alive.

1547
01:06:49,159 --> 01:06:51,480
They're out there somewhere, but it's just so that maybe

1548
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,559
would make the divorce even more messy. So yeah, I

1549
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:57,239
liked it. They had a lot more scenes together where

1550
01:06:57,239 --> 01:07:00,760
in the original when they do it's very like quippy

1551
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,079
stuff of O'Hara just being evil stepmother and that's about it.

1552
01:07:04,119 --> 01:07:06,480
You don't feel connection, where now it feels like overtime

1553
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,480
they have bonded. And then she says like, yeah, because

1554
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,199
I sold out and made a lot of money. She's like, no,

1555
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,800
like I liked to before that, But I still like

1556
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,719
because of that, so little little good character stuff they

1557
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,239
included with one another.

1558
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Taylor, I think I'm noteless, especially I'm noteless noteless.

1559
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,559
Speaker 1: Okay, I will go first, and I'm probably lows. I

1560
01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:29,199
will give this a seven out of ten. For now,

1561
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,239
I don't think it would drop. I think it could

1562
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,480
go I think the only most could go higher is

1563
01:07:33,519 --> 01:07:36,400
like in the seven point five. And these are movies that, Okay, now,

1564
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,239
actually I'll go seven point five because I have a

1565
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,199
new barometer, because I give you two minute no no

1566
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,159
no no no no, Maybe get to a seven point five.

1567
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,239
But no, because I found there's too many movies. I

1568
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,000
said this before that I was giving sevens used to

1569
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:52,320
be my Oh, I'll watch this many times in the future.

1570
01:07:52,599 --> 01:07:54,519
But then there are some movies that I didn't love,

1571
01:07:54,639 --> 01:07:57,639
but because they're still made so well, giving them anything

1572
01:07:57,719 --> 01:08:00,760
under seven felt bad, like it felt yucky, and be like, oh, yeah,

1573
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,000
this great movie that's visually scored, but it's like a six. No,

1574
01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:06,800
so a seven point five is now what I leave for.

1575
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,440
These is a movie. These is something like fucking Luigi

1576
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,519
over here. This is a movie that I will watch

1577
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:15,079
many times. I think they were smart, especially even if

1578
01:08:15,079 --> 01:08:17,279
it's for the theatrical but smart to have a segment

1579
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:19,960
of this film happening on Halloween night, like that will

1580
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,399
get in that Beatle Juice is already in the Halloween rotation.

1581
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,840
But I think this is it eggs it on even

1582
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,039
more Halloween re releases all that stuff. So No, I

1583
01:08:28,079 --> 01:08:29,960
had a good time with fit the girls. They both

1584
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,079
really liked it as well too. They they said they

1585
01:08:32,079 --> 01:08:34,079
weren't scared. The only time scared Gwen was when they

1586
01:08:34,079 --> 01:08:36,119
pulled out a needle and she covered her eyes. It's

1587
01:08:36,199 --> 01:08:38,399
just a needle thing, nothing more than that. Logan was

1588
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:40,760
fine and chilled the whole time. But yeah, they liked it.

1589
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,720
No I enjoyed it, Like I said, maybe it's not

1590
01:08:44,039 --> 01:08:46,000
like I know, absolutely love it, but I think Dylan

1591
01:08:46,079 --> 01:08:47,640
kind of asked me that, like, why wasn't more exciting

1592
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,399
for a sequel, just because I thought, like, for me

1593
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,199
as a big fan, it's hard for me to match

1594
01:08:51,239 --> 01:08:54,319
those expectations or match like that first one. So for me,

1595
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:56,319
it's like, if this is what we got, I'm happy

1596
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:58,640
with it. It's I take this much more of a

1597
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,920
oh yeah, that's a good time for me, versus man

1598
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,560
that really stunk and or this person doesn't or like

1599
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,760
if Keen would have came in there, I didn't think so,

1600
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,640
but if he didn't have it, I would be like, oh,

1601
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:11,479
like you should have never greenlit a like many times,

1602
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,600
like we'll get this one that we knew Pirates Retro,

1603
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,479
that last Pirates movie, Jack Sparrow and Giant dep like

1604
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,960
Giant Epps, not Jack Sparrow in that movie. He's just

1605
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:21,319
lost it, right. So it's like with this if you

1606
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:23,880
were to get Keen in the room and so he's

1607
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,520
just not feel juicing when he can't do it. That's

1608
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,479
why it's like, you don't do this movie. But uh,

1609
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,039
like I said, the audience he fucking killed my our

1610
01:09:30,039 --> 01:09:32,279
audiences was dying and everything that guy said, And I

1611
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,760
thought I did great jobs. Yeah, seven point five for me.

1612
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: Very nice.

1613
01:09:37,119 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 4: I h I'll go in here next. I on paper.

1614
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:44,359
There are issues that I have with this movie for sure,

1615
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,880
breaking down some story stuff, some character stuff. We discussed

1616
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,079
it all at the end of the day, though, I

1617
01:09:49,159 --> 01:09:51,439
just had such a great time with the movie start

1618
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,079
to finish. This The movie is amazing, pacing, I was laughing.

1619
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: I thought it was a great sequel as well.

1620
01:09:59,039 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna give it a good old ten

1621
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:02,399
out of ten.

1622
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: I really loved it.

1623
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:04,399
Speaker 2: I loved it.

1624
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,159
Speaker 1: I'm surprised because we just had this conversation with Dipple

1625
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:09,520
Ring and You're like, oh, I don't know if I

1626
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,640
would have give it a ten. Now, now this is

1627
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,239
a ten. I was surprised. I thought, like a nine.

1628
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1629
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 4: I yes, even though there are some like story shortcomings,

1630
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,560
perhaps I just don't feel like this is the kind

1631
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,520
of movie where I really care about that, because it's

1632
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,760
more about like the style and just the vibe of it.

1633
01:10:27,039 --> 01:10:29,520
So yeah, but you know what, also, I'll discuss an

1634
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episode was like, yeah, it doesn't these numbers don't really matter.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I love this movie. I'm very happy.

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So I'm just gonna give it a ten, and I'm

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happy to do.

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Speaker 1: So there you go, tear Field.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like I said, I only have one con really,

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and it's just how long that musical number went in

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the church. And for that reason, I'm going nine point

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01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,399
five out of ten. I can't give it a perfect

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,840
ten just because of that, just the just the one.

1644
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It was just too long, Like I was laughing at

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01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,000
the surface. Yeah, it was just pulled me out when

1646
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it got to be just a little too long. But

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that being said, I had a fantastic time watching this movie.

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I loved it a lot. I can't wait to rewatch it.

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I'm stoked to add this to my haling rotation list.

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It's just, yeah, I'm so happy that Michael Keaton was

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able to just get back into this, like I said

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at the start of this episode, and it feels like

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there's been no time that has actually passed between him

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playing his character, and I think that just goes to

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01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:29,600
show there's a true testament how great of an actor

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he is being able to get back into this role

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after doing a bunch of other movies in between. But yeah,

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just absolutely fantastic. He was hilarious and it was a

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01:11:38,279 --> 01:11:40,720
great time that being said, just to get into see

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01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,880
these new characters jump into this kind of world as well.

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They all did a great job. Really really happy with

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them or Taga and Defoe, and just having Winona Ryder

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01:11:51,079 --> 01:11:55,520
back was great too, and having Yeah, these characters that

1664
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we're familiar with get more of the spotlight. All in all,

1665
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it's just such a great movie. I'm gonna be recommending

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it to everyone that I see, Like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Go see Beetle Juice, go see Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 3: I want to take her actually to the theater to

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see this one, so we'll see you see, even get

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to sit her.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't like that first one though, so you gotta

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get her. You gotta get her.

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01:12:12,399 --> 01:12:14,039
Speaker 2: Well, I asked her when I got home.

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Speaker 3: I said, you know, I think you would have really

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01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,960
enjoyed this, and she's like, you know, I didn't like

1676
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the first one. I was a different person back then

1677
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and I'm a different person now.

1678
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Speaker 1: Like, okay, okay, when did she see that first one? Oh?

1679
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,159
Speaker 3: When she was a church goer.

1680
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Speaker 1: You didn't even watch you with her for the retro.

1681
01:12:32,119 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: No, we did, but she saw it for the first

1682
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,680
time she was a churchgoer, and that's when she said, like,

1683
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:37,880
I don't like this movie.

1684
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Speaker 1: Okay, But then when she watched the retro, what was

1685
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:40,560
her thoughts?

1686
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:47,039
Speaker 3: She wasn't she didn't. She was kind of I'm not unbeknownst,

1687
01:12:47,119 --> 01:12:47,920
like unknown with it.

1688
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 2: She was kind of coy, like where am I.

1689
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: She wasn't really kind of shedding a lot of light

1690
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,479
on it. And as we got closer to going to

1691
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,079
see it today, uh, then she was kind of I

1692
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:01,399
was telling her like, oh, I think you like it.

1693
01:13:01,399 --> 01:13:03,279
Then she's kind of alluding to like, you know, maybe yeah,

1694
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:05,119
like maybe I was a little bit too harsh on

1695
01:13:05,159 --> 01:13:08,000
it because she, as I said to you in the theater,

1696
01:13:08,279 --> 01:13:11,079
she didn't realize that Baldwin's character is like, they were

1697
01:13:11,119 --> 01:13:13,840
dead in the first movie until we rewatched it, and

1698
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,279
she's like, oh yeah, I didn't realize that they were

1699
01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:17,640
ghosts the first time I watched it.

1700
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: Okay, the next time because I just think that's wild

1701
01:13:21,039 --> 01:13:23,760
watch that movie and thinking they're alive, because like, what

1702
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,680
do you think when its like half the characters can't

1703
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,319
see following Geena Davis, like when they're doing a whole

1704
01:13:28,359 --> 01:13:30,680
like ripping in the face and everything. So that's a

1705
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,000
that's a fun fact, so.

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Speaker 3: A whole new dynamic.

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01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there you go, lays Jell and we have

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01:13:36,319 --> 01:13:39,159
review beal juice. If you have any thoughts or questions,

1709
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:41,680
because we always answer our newscast or something in the future,

1710
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,920
put them in the discord, the Patreon, the Twitter, the Facebook,

1711
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,439
wherever you get hold from us. We don't have a

1712
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,000
phone number, but you know, send us something.

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01:13:49,079 --> 01:13:50,520
Speaker 2: Do personally have a phone number?

1714
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: Drop it here, okay, don't.

1715
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 4: I don't really associate it with podcast inquiries.

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01:13:56,159 --> 01:13:58,119
Speaker 1: I'll put in the title of the episode. Yea, I'll

1717
01:13:58,119 --> 01:14:01,279
put in the title episode. But yes, ladies man, thank

1718
01:14:01,279 --> 01:14:03,279
you very much for tuning into this. I hope you

1719
01:14:03,319 --> 01:14:05,520
have a good day. Weekend night. Whenever you listen to this,

1720
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:06,960
and I promised you thankst to me here from us,

1721
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,159
it'll not be boring.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Hell,