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Speaker 4: Welcome to gun Talk. I'm talking.
Speaker 5: I'm glad you could be here. Happy birthday America two
hundred and fifty years on this Independence Day weekend. So
we're gonna have a special gun Talk today and invite
you to be part of it with your thoughts about
our country, about the anniversary, about how we came to be,
what we are, about where we are today. I have
a lot of things to talk about. I got some thoughts,
kind of some reminiscence that I want to do well.
Of course, we'll talk Independence Day a little bit later on,
we're gonna be talking about guns of the Revolution. And
there are some myths out there, a lot of them,
no surprise, perpetuated by movies about the American Revolution and
about the guns that they used and the capabilities of
those guns. And I have to admit I got a
lot of it wrong, because what do they say, A
lot of the stuff you learned is from the movies.
If you don't have any of the play us to
learn it, and if you learn it from the movies,
it's probably wrong, just a simple as that. So let's
see as I'm doing the show today. Just so you know,
and those of you who follow me on X you
may have already seen it. I posted I'm wearing for
the live show today. I am wearing America's gun. I
got a nineteen eleven and forty five on and I
also had a special hat made up a ball cap,
went on Amazon and created it just because I thought
of it and said, well, I can do this. And
it's a MAGA hat in the it's red and it's
got the white letters on it, but doesn't say what
you think. It says, make Americans gunfighters again.
Speaker 4: You can go over on x and take a look
at it. I like it. It was just wild hair.
The thought I've already had.
Speaker 5: People say as soon as I saw it this morning
when I posted and said we're going to get one
of those, I said, well, I had it made.
Speaker 4: You can have it made. Go on Amazon.
Speaker 5: Just get it done, you know, if you like the
idea of make Americans gun fighters again.
Speaker 4: So I was thinking about.
Speaker 5: Who in the world, who, who who would I have
to help me kick off the two hundred and fiftieth
Independence Day weekend celebration on gun Talk.
Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of obvious, isn't that. Who else would
you have? But Ted NuGen? So I grabbed Ted. Here's
that interview.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be the best year of my life and
the worst for my enemies. It's a great balance pression.
Speaker 5: All right, we're joining right now by Ted NuGen. Of course,
he is the motor City mad man. He has done
so many things, it's unbelievable. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 7: You know I'm doing so.
Speaker 4: Good at stupid.
Speaker 6: I improvise, adapt and overcome my family, my band. I
got my thirteenth grandchild, River Wolf NuGen. I got a
bunch of FRT triggers, so brass rainbows are us. My
hunting dogs are the best hunting dogs in the world.
Am I missing anything time?
Speaker 5: Well, no, let's say that you're inducted to the Legends
of Outdoor Hall of Fame. Being inducted into the Michigan
Outdoor Hall of Fame. This is just a way beyond
all of the MotorCity Madman, rock star, unbelievable guitar picker,
and all the other stuff you've done. You know, there
are people who know you from your music, but there
are people who know you from your outdoor activism too.
Speaker 6: You know, it's a great balance.
Speaker 4: Lucky me.
Speaker 6: I was born in Detroit nineteen forty eight, right along
the Rouge River, which was just a wildlife paradise winding
through the Motor City there, and my dad was already
a follower of Fred bhar He had such an influence
around the country, but particularly in Michigan where he started
bear archery. So like all kids back then, I was
addicted to projectile management. I made my own sling shots
and the Daisy Red Rider be Begun rules Supreme. But
I made my own bows and arrows down by the
Rouge River and we'd go north and hunt and actually
stop and visit Fred Behar and greatly Michigan's at the
time I was born. So that influence really guided me
on a powerful, inescapable, true North compass setting. So here
it is seven, it's seventy eight years later, and my
music is so wonderful, my band, my wife Shemane has
become such an advocate for constitutional Christianity conservation. Yeah, I
am Ted nugent, exactly what the Founding fathers wanted all
Americans to be. To have a big mouth and stand
up for God, family.
Speaker 4: And country.
Speaker 6: Call me an expree, call me a radical, but call
me often.
Speaker 5: How about two hundred and fifty years this weekend? What
a birthday?
Speaker 4: What you know?
Speaker 5: And we're still in this experiment, but it's going pretty
well right now.
Speaker 6: You know. It is if you improvise a death and overcome.
And actually, here's a concept. Think when people think they
can carve out an amazing day. Here it is in
a nutshell. And I do celebrate Independence Day every day,
but in two hundred and fifty years, I think I
can summarize it thusly, the whole world sucks, America sucks less.
But if we don't get back on the constitution. Of
course we're gonna suck more. So, yes, I'm carving out
the best days of my life in twenty twenty six.
But there is a lot of treachery. There's a lot
of horrible corruption and abuse of power. The founding fathers,
they would run out a rope by Wednesday if they
went to Washington, DC. But my family, my band, hunt,
my guide, hunters all summer and all fall, and people
come from around the world to share a sunrise. So
far as campfire with me and Tom Gresham, your heart
and soul is represented around that campfire. Goodwill, decency, work, ethic, god, family, country, independence,
self sufficiency, always doing good over evil.
Speaker 4: So that's alive and well.
Speaker 6: Now we just got to make sure the government, the media,
and academia catch up.
Speaker 5: Right exactly, I got one for you here. We're gonna
switch just a little bit because it describes your life exactly,
and to some extent in my life. I hear people
all the time, you hear the same thing I say.
You know, well, I always wanted to whatever it is
to fill in the blank. I always wanted to do
to go hunting. I always wanted to hunt it out.
I always wanted to learn to fly on airplane. I
always and I say, look, you know what, what are
you doing? Just start start down the path. Just for
Heaven's sakes, just do it. I don't want to live
a life of I always wanted to.
Speaker 6: Boy, how lucky are we that we figure that out?
And I have to give a lot of the props
to your dad, Grit Gretscham. He raised you to pursue
life and happiness and most of it is accomplished in
the great outdoors. And that's how I was raised. And again,
I'm Tom. I'm seventy eight this year, and if the
twenty five year old Ted Nuger showed up, I'd kick
his ass because I've taken good care of myself. And again,
I'm surrounded just like you are a gun talk radio.
You're surrounded by great people, hardworking, positive, knowledgeable, smart, cocky,
funny people. And that describes my life. So it is available.
I live in Texas. In Texas, they have this problem.
It's called we're fixed to do something. Well, I'm not
fixing to do anything. I'm already doing it. So I
if I have a dream, and I do, and I
want to do something from the time I graduated from
high school in nineteen sixty seven, I wanted to go
to Alaska with my bow and arrow, so I did.
I wanted to go to Africa with my bow and arrow,
so I made it happen. I wanted to make my
music with the greatest musicians in the world, so I
pursued it with vim and vigor and pisson vinegar. And
that's the name of the game. The American dream is
based on God giving you another day of life. You
need to carp a DM, you need to pursue your
happiness because in America you can. Tom that's the great
two fifty celebration. I think all of our conditions, good, bad,
and ugly are the main source of that guy in
the mirror. Look in the mirror. If you got a problem,
that's the guy that caused it. If you have a happiness,
that's the guy that provided it. The guy in the
mid is responsible for every condition we have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a wonderful perspective because you get so many
people that are always looking for someone to blame, to
be mad at, to be outraged about, and of course
online particularly and even with the media. Now the business
model is to get people mad at somebody else and
blame them for whatever slight you're feeling, as you say,
instead of saying, what can I do to help myself?
What can I do to help my family? How do
I improve my situation? And people say, we know that's hard.
Speaker 4: Guess what. It is hard, and it's.
Speaker 6: Worthwhile improvise, adapt, and overcome. There's a lot of bad
and ugly, unlimited bad and ugly, but there's also unlimited good.
If we prioritize and we communicate with those who are
running for public office to represent we the people, hold
them to constitutional accountability, and this shining city on the
hill will shine once again.
Speaker 5: I got to tell you a quick story here. People
will ask me. People say, oh, you know Ted Newsy. Yeah,
we've been friends for god I don't know, thirty forty years.
And I said, well, you know what, what's the deal?
I said, Look, here's the deal about Ted. You need
to understand now what you hear out there. This is
not a stick he puts on for the media. What
you're getting is the real Ted. He wakes up like
that in the morning, he goes to bed like that.
That's the real Ted. There is no pretense and there's
no phoniness. You're the real deal.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, how dare anybody do otherwise? I mean, there's a
core belief system that the founding fathers met King George's
punks at the Concord Bridge, and that defiance, that rebelliousness
is the core DNA of the only experiment in self
government in the history of the world. We do not
bend over. We do not comply with authoritarian overreach.
Speaker 3: Tom.
Speaker 6: It's my honor to share truth, logic and common sense
with you. Thank you for gun talk. I listen to
her religiously. I learn a lot and I have a
funny feeling that we are kin We are truth logic
and common sense brothers.
Speaker 4: So thank you for that. Man, all right, do you
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So I got a few my own. I'll be telling
them today.
Speaker 4: You want to join me?
Speaker 5: Eight six six talk gun or give me a call
it Tom Talk Gun. I'm Tom Gresham. This is gun Talk.
Actually if the gun talk radio show you're listening to
now is the beginning of the whole gun talk media empire.
Started this thirty one years ago, kind of as a lark.
Came about as a conversation with Alan got Leave from
the Second Amendment Foundation's talking to him at a cocktail
party at shot Show.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 5: I told him, I said, you know, hell, we ought
to do something together. We've known each other for a while.
I know you published books. And he said, well you
ever have you ever thought about doing radio? I said no,
I've done a fair amount of TV. I've never done
any radio. He said, well you got to do radio.
Well how's that work? And he explained it to me,
and about six seven weeks later, I'm on the radio.
I thought, well, we'll try it for a few weeks.
We'll see if this works. I don't know what's going
to happen here. Well, yeah, there you go thirty one
years and from that we have radio show and TV
shows and online digital little platforms and podcasts, and our
own studio complex, content creation center and shooting ranges and
everything else. Unbelievable what you could do when you just
you know what it is. And I'm thinking about this,
and look, I'm gonna tell stories. I'm going to go
reminisce a little bit today. I hope that's okay. Well,
you know what, you don't have me saying I'm gonna
do it. Because I have the microphone, I can do that.
But I was thinking about the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
our birthday of the country, and for whatever reason, it
kind of came together with this thing we do in
my family. And I don't remember my dad ever saying it,
but he lived it, and I picked it up from
there and I passed it on to my kids and grandkids.
And my thing is now simply this, always say yes, well,
what do I mean?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 5: Think about that? Because we formed the country because Thomas
Payne wrote common sense, and then the founding fathers of
America looked at that and went, huh.
Speaker 4: I would be wacky idea.
Speaker 5: I mean, we could, we could separate from the British,
we could try to pull these independent colonies together. Well
that would be hard, but yeah, but they said yes.
And when I talked to my family, I said, look,
just say yes. If somebody asked you if you can
do something, whether or not you can't, whether or not
you've ever done it, if it's something you would like
to do, the answer is yes, Well how can that be, Tom,
if you've never done it before, Because at least in
my case, I'm confident I can do it. I'm smart
enough to learn how to do it. I can figure
it out, and in the process I figured it out.
It's amazing how much stuff you can learn.
Speaker 4: Now. I fully understand that.
Speaker 5: I am a I like to say confidence. Some would
say arrogant or cocky. Yeah, I got it. I got
all of that. Okay, I mean it started when I
was very young. I just yeah, I can do that,
whatever it is, I could do that. I watched my
dad work twelve hour days, seven days a week most
of us life, most of it as a freelance writer.
You write articles, you send them off to magazines, and
you hope that somebody accept it and send you a check. Absolutely,
no guarantees whatsoever, no steady paycheck, nobody's withholding any money.
You got to do it all yourself. And that's the model.
So I said, okay, you just you get it done.
You just work hard, you know. I always say that
the way you beat other people when you're competing with
them in business, it's just simply outwork. And it's not
really that difficult because I find that most people are
not really willing to work that hard. When I was
starting doing the radio show, I would get up at five. Well,
what I'm talking about. I still get up at five.
My coffee pot is set to go off and start
making coffee at five o'clock every morning, and I'm usually
up before it is it starts cranking up. And so
but that's just the way I work. And then you
work for ten or twelve hours every day, simple as that.
It's amazing what you can do by outworking other people.
So back to the idea of always saying yes, it's
an attitude of yeah, I can do that. Part of
that is also saying no one can stop me from
doing that. I'll tell a story on myself. When I
was twenty five, I interviewed for my first real real job.
I'd been doing freelance writing and they were hiring to
They needed somebody to be the new editor of Southern
Outdoors magazine in Montgomery, Alabama. I'm twenty five and I
go and interview, go down to Montgomery talking to Helen
Severe bast Anger Sportsman Society. They bought Swed Outdoors, and
I remember clearly talking about cocky young kid, telling her, Look,
I know that I'm not the first person you've interviewed,
and I know that there are people who are older
and have more experience. I said, but here's the thing,
in six months, it won't matter because I grew up
in this business.
Speaker 4: I know magazines, and in six.
Speaker 5: Months I will know how to do this and I
will be doing a great job for you. You know,
whether or not they believe that, or it's just that
I was the youngest, least experienced person and I would
take the money that they were offering, which wasn't very much.
Speaker 4: I got the job. Oh bizarre it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just tell me it doesn't matter that I'm the
youngest and the least experience because in six months I'm
gonna learn all this stuff.
Speaker 4: Always say yes.
Speaker 5: I was having that conversation a few weeks ago at
the Nratio with a new executive at one of the
major firearms companies, and I was explaining that philosophy and
she came back in contacted relationships you know, I just
I loved what you said about that. The concept of
always say yes, because there are always and you know
what it is, there are always people around you who
are willing to say no, oh, we can't do that.
They're always thought when you bring up an idea, or
we can't do that, because no, no, I don't want
to be around people to tell me I can't do it.
What I want to hear is okay, okay, here are
the challenges we have to overcome. Fair enough, all right,
we got challenges, but don't tell me we can't do it,
because we most certainly can do it. And with that attitude,
you can form a company, you can get yourself a
new job.
Speaker 4: You else you can do. You can form a.
Speaker 5: Brand new country, and you can basically engage in treason,
and you can have a revolution, and you can have
this grand experiment we call the United States of America
two hundred and fifty years out.
Speaker 4: A boy, what's your story? What did you do for
the four Give me a call. Now.
Speaker 5: I'm sure that there are a few of you that
went out on Independence Day and fired a firearm, fired
a gun through some rounds down range. I would love
to hear those stories. Let's get those range reports coming
in our number. Here is tom Talk gun simple as that.
Oh quick question over on X where I am at
gun Talk. Did you see my new profile picture? What
do you think of the hat? All right, let's go
talk with Larry out of which stuff falls Texas?
Speaker 4: Larry, you got a problem there? What's going on?
Speaker 7: Well, I've got a I've got an FN reflex pistol,
and the last few times I took it out shooting,
and I started getting a lot of misfires. You know,
a gun goes click instead of bang, and uh, you know,
I thought, okay, you know, sometimes i'ma ain't all that great,
but uh, it started happening a lot. And I got
to looking at the boat or breech face of the pistol,
and there's a small gouge at about the six o'clock
position on it, and it looks like it's a couple
of thousands deep actually, And then I got to looking
at some of the rounds that were misfiring, and the
firing pin indentation is way off center. You know, I'm
homes to them not being perfect, but it's almost coming
to the edge of it.
Speaker 4: And oh, well that would account for it.
Speaker 7: Sure, Okay, okay, because I put those rounds in, some
of those rounds in a different pistol, and they went
bang every time. So I've already emailed FN to say,
ask them what they think of the issue, right, I
wanted to kind of ask if you thought I was
on the right trail.
Speaker 5: I do any rough idea of how many rounds you
have to do that gun?
Speaker 7: One thousand to fifteen hundred?
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's broken in.
Speaker 5: We got that one taken care of, but it shouldn't
be broken down at this point either you've done a
thousand rounds. No, I don't know what your impression is.
I like that pistol. I just think they did a
really nice job. I think that's a fine carry pistol.
Or what's your impression, Oh.
Speaker 7: It's awesome. It's an awesome pistol.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: I love the trigger on it. I'm not a I'm
not an expert on any of that.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 7: The trigger is wonderful on it. The sites are really good.
I just put a I just put an optic on it,
and I'm learning how to use that.
Speaker 4: Oh well, that's what.
Speaker 5: That's the problem. We already all right, you didn't tell
me that. Look, an optic almost always starts to cause misfires. Okay, listen,
listening to that pause, he's going, all right, Tom's lost it.
Speaker 7: Now, what do you know?
Speaker 4: I'm just pulling your leg here, a guy.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, I have heard that the extra weight on
the slide might cause the slide to move slower so
you'd get sole piced. But I didn't think that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, no, no no. It sounds like something
weird has worn on it.
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna guess FN's going to say, hey, guys,
we'll send you a label. Throw at the box, send
it back to us. Let's take a look at it and
find out what's going on.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, it's a good company. They're going to stand
behind it. It's you know, the only pain in the
rear is that you got to be without your gun
for a little while while you send it in.
Speaker 7: Yeah, fair enough. Do you have a time for a
couple of quick range approach? If I'm making absolutely, let's
go for it. Yeah okay, Well I took your advice
and finally got got some training and I went to
this place range ready. I'm sure you've heard of it.
Speaker 4: Okay, By the way, this is not a setup. I
did not know you were going to say that. Okay,
I was.
Speaker 7: I was going to you know, they put the show
on while I'm waiting on hold, and I was listening
to the commercials you had for range Ready, and I
was going to start off with In no way did
we plan this.
Speaker 14: We did not know.
Speaker 4: We did not know. But I tell you what.
Speaker 7: It was my first formal training outside of the military.
It confirmed that military training is not that great. And
my my overall impression is I quickly found out that
I'm not as good as I thought I was, and
I also found out that I can get better than
I thought I could. The training was I got. We
Our class was a little light. They didn't have all
the all the students that they normally have, so we
got a lot of extra extra personal attention and everything.
And you know it, it has put me on the
road to correcting forty years of bad habits.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you, because it is hard for anybody,
but especially as we get older, for us to say, Okay,
there's stuff I don't know, because we like to think, oh, yeah,
I've lived long enough, I've got this. You know what
do we all heard over and over again. I've been
shooting all my life. I was in the military, I
got training there. Why would I ever go take that class?
Speaker 4: So what was it that made you go do this?
Speaker 7: Well? I I guess I got to give you some
more credit because I got a good laugh out of
the Low and Left Society commercials.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh, when the when the NRA was going through their issues,
I was going to call you up, lunt here to
be the president of that because you know you're you're
you're busy, and I would do it for cheaper and
flight commercial. But I can still be president of Low
and Left Foundation or society I got. I got tired
of being crappy, you know, and I shoot pretty yeah,
I shoot pretty good. Minute of bad guy at twenty
five yards. By watching What's happened in the world and
everything like that, and seeing what like Eli Dicken and
a gentleman in Texas at the.
Speaker 4: Church ja ja.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, and then the other church in Texas, uh
in Sutherland Springs that you know, anything can happen at
any time, and I needed I took a good look
at my shooting skills and needed to I felt I
needed to get him better, which he's ready. Seemed like
a good idea.
Speaker 4: Which class did you take?
Speaker 7: I U, Samiano pistol operator.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, now no people hear me say this, but
I would love to get your take. I think that
Chris Serno is just a gifted instructor.
Speaker 7: He is he is, and you know, the staff members,
the guys that helped him out were awesome, you know,
going out there shooting that day. You know, the one
of the fun things is is down there he's got
people that come and help him instruct and stuff. And
some of them are people that have been through classes
before and just want to come in and get some reps.
And even those people help instruct and it just it
makes it for a It makes for a really really
good class because you get you know, you get other
people looking at you saying, hey, Chris, this is happening
over here. What should I tell this guy? Or Chris
g's on it, you know, and uh, yeah, I go
shooting now, and my shooting's improved. And if I start
going off, I start thinking about what I'm doing. I
can hear Chris in the back of my head yelling
at me to get on the trip you take about
the trigger, stay on the site, you know, quit looking
at your target after you shoot all the good stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I was going to ask you if
there was one thing, but yeah, you just described it.
It's like, Okay, stay on the sites, but mostly let's
focus on the trigger and stop looking at the stupid target.
Get back, get your eyes hard focused on the sites
or the read not whatever it is. Concentrate on that
and then put ninety percent of your effort on the trigger.
Speaker 4: And then when you finally shift your.
Speaker 5: Focus back to the target, then you're going to start
liking what you're seeing.
Speaker 7: That is absolutely correct. That is absolutely correct. And I
have one more training class I'd like to talk to
you about. If you have a second, sure, go for it. Okay.
So this came through, this came about. It was they
call the class Defend and Save and it's run by
two guys, Zero Hour med Solutions and then Lobo Training
Group and they're near Tulsa, Oklahoma. And what they've done
is they put together a stop the bleed type class
with shooting involved. It is excellent training. It's a it
was a great booster shot with what I learned at
Range Ready as far as the shooting goes and they
did a little bit more dynamic stuff. It was still
a flat square range, but we got to move laterally
and forward and back and stuff, and that was fun.
But what they also did was basically a stop the
bleed type class, learning tourniquits, wound packing, chess seals, a
little bit on airway and stuff like that. And then
they mixed it up so we'd be shooting and all
of a sudden, the instructor would, I'll tournique left arm.
And the process was stop shooting, holster and tournique your
own left arm, one handed, you know, doing it as
if you were shot in the left arm. And that
was exciting, I tell you what. You know, you add
a little stress into it and everything like that, you
learn a lot about yourself and a lot about what
you need to work on.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: It also is eye opening because you realize how much
number one you don't know, and then how much of
what you know is actually incorrect.
Speaker 7: Yep, yep, and you know. And so the sort of
final test, final final fun phase, if you want to
call it, that was they would set up a mannequin
with various injuries and you would have to eliminate targets
and then transition into life saving mode and check check
a person for uh, you know, different wounds and stuff.
And they had they had a way to kind make
them bleed. Oh yeah, simulated with water and everything like that.
So you you had to assess, assess the situation.
Speaker 14: Uh uh.
Speaker 7: In my case, it was turning kitting an arm and
then providing a chess seal.
Speaker 4: That's that's amazing.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and look good on you for being
willing to go learn new stuff because you know, a
lot of times we get to a certain age, a
lot of people just say I'm I'm done. I'm not
doing that anymore. It takes ever, time, money, all the
rest of it. Let me do one other thing I'm
going to tell you before we go is that you
should take a look at going back to Range ready
when they have the Diagnostic Pistol Instructor class. You are
primed and ready for that one.
Speaker 7: Okay, I will take that under consideration. I'm looking at
going out to Arizona, a little place called Gunsight or
something like that I've heard of that can help me out. Yeah, basically,
like you said before, you know, you take you take
a good training class, and you want to take and
I can vouch for that.
Speaker 5: You do great, great range of poor It said, Look,
I know Fen's gonna take care of you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate the call, sir, thank you.
Speaker 5: While Larry was talking, he's look at my notes of
one of the things I got to want to talk
about today. I'm going to go ahead and jump down
to this because he said he got tired of being
a crummy shooter. One of the questions is, how do
you know if you're any good? How do you know
if you're a rummy shooter? How do you know if
you're a good shooter. Well, if you shoot competition, you'll
know real fast. But most of us don't, frankly, and
most of us go out and shoot and do the
same thing over and over again, year after year, and
we think we're okay, and we are okay compared to nothing,
because we don't compare ourselves to anything. I hear a
phrase occasionally, the phrase is am I as good as
I can be? And I really don't like that phrase.
And a lot of this stuff is mental. It's programming.
You program yourself in such a way that you are
then motivated to do something or not do something. And
I think the language you use when you think about
stuff like this, is makes a big difference on how
you move forward or not. And saying am I as
good as I can be? To me, that implies that
there is a limit to how good you can be.
I much prefer what can I do to be better?
Because there's always something you can do to be better.
I mean, I can sit here and say, look, I'm
not going to be as good as Max Michelle or
Jerry Mitchellick or Doug Canning because I'm not okay realistically,
but I don't know how good I can be. But
I guarantee you I can be better than I am now.
And is there a big difference between those two. Maybe
not to some people, but to me it's a big
difference because to say am I as good as I
can be? Means I'm going to hit a certain point
and then I'm going to stop. And I don't want
to stop. I want to keep trying to be better.
I want to you know, I may never at gun
site get what they call the E ticket where you
get the expert rating in a class and it's very
subjective and the instructors get together and they decide what
rating each student gets. When you get your certificate. There's
no appeal, there's no argument, there's no whining. You just
get what you get. And you can get marksmen. You
can get Marksman one, and or you could get expert.
They rarely hand out experts. I've never gotten one. I
may never get one, but that doesn't mean I'm not
going to keep trying. You know, I got up to
Marksman one, which is the next the one right below expert.
But to a certain extent, I really think we need
to work on programming ourselves. You know, am I as
good as I can be? How do I get better?
There's a difference. I want to be getting better every day.
Better every day, get up at five, start working on stuff,
do that thing.
Speaker 4: And if.
Speaker 5: I'm going to all this relates back to this two
hundred and fiftyth that version.
Speaker 4: Of the country.
Speaker 5: To look at that as an amazing that you have
this group of people. These men had got together and said, Okay,
we're going to commit treason together, and they did. That's
where it was, we're going to rebel against the government.
Speaker 4: We're going to start a war, and we understand.
Speaker 5: We actually put it in this document, this Declaration of
Independence that we came up with that we know that
if they catch us, they will kill us for this,
they will hang us, and we're still going to sign
our names to this. They did that then, so we
can have this country now. And yet there are people
now who one of my pet peeves insist I'm posting
anonymously online using made up names, made up handles. Well,
I don't want people to know who I am. You
don't really want to hear my response to that, I
use my real name and always have online for the
very first time, I started posting online in nineteen eighty three,
eighty four, something like that, using an old k pro
to a computer. No hard drive, just floppy drives, floppy disk. Well,
it's just my thing. If you say it, you should
own it. You uhould be proud to put your name
on it. If you have to use a fake name
to post, or you're afraid of what people are going
to say, I just would prefer you back to the
founder of this. They said, we're going to commit treason.
We're going to come up with a document. We're gonna
actually sign our names on it, knowing that if the
British catch us, they will kill us.
Speaker 4: That's betting at all.
Speaker 5: We'd not just can we just put our names on stuff?
Eight six six talk Gun. We'll get you in here.
Speaker 4: I'm Tom Gresham and this is gun Talk. All right.
Speaker 5: I have a question to throw out on the floor
and you can weigh in on this one two hundred
and fifty years of America this weekend. If you had
to name one model that you say this is America's gun,
what would that be?
Speaker 4: Our number?
Speaker 5: Year is Tom Talk Gun. John called in out of Billings, Montana.
Hey John here on what's on your mind?
Speaker 14: All right? Tom, nice to talk to you. Yes, sir,
I have a question about f RT triggers, specifically the
Franklin f RT. Uh do you recommend putting that in
n AAR fifteen pistol?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's one of those deals. The answer is
always it depends what do you want to do? I mean,
what's the plan?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: I mean I think most people know an f part
you force reset trigger. It basically makes a shoots faster.
It starts to approach fil audo speed, but it's not
fill auto. So what do you think and why would
you want with that?
Speaker 14: Just to play with it, just to go out on
the range and experiment and play. Yeah, Okay, typical done, nut.
Speaker 4: All right, got it?
Speaker 5: I understand, Okay, I was kind of hoping that's where
you're going to go. Then the answer is an unequivocal yes,
of course, get it.
Speaker 4: Try it.
Speaker 5: You know, you can put it in and then you
can always take it out if you don't like it.
But I would say put it in there, go to
the range, shoot it.
Speaker 4: See if you like it.
Speaker 5: You may decide it's simply a novelty and it's a
fun thing to go to the range and run through
a bunch of AMMO in a hurry, because that's probably
what nine to nine percent of the application is for people.
As for it being effective on, for instance, of self
defense gun, I don't know. I'd have to give that
a little bit more thought. Maybe not so much on
a pistol. Maybe it'd be a little bit easier to
control in a rifle, But I don't know. You know,
I think you got to go to the range and
try it yourself.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 14: That's kind of where I'm at right now. Yeah, yeah,
I just.
Speaker 4: Like, just do it. See what you think.
Speaker 5: Oh, you know what, you can be our our crash dummy.
You can try it and then call us back and
let us know what you think.
Speaker 4: Okay, right.
Speaker 14: I mean the thing is I already bought on and
I'm hesitating because I don't know that much about I'm
not a gunsmith. The instructions seem simple, but I understand
that once you put it in sometimes there's a problem
with the tuning and the function and that kind of thing.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm just going to tell you YouTube has all
the answers, and you can go on to YouTube and
look for instructions on installing and tuning and FRT trigger
and it'll all be there before.
Speaker 4: You know it. You'll know exactly what you're doing.
Speaker 5: And then if you run into problems, you can always
find a gunsmith or somebody at a shooting range who
knows their stuff. But I would say just go look
on YouTube. There'll be information there, and probably the company
that made the trigger will also help you out. I
got it scowed. I wish you luck with it, and
be sure to let us know how that works out
for you. So the question on the floor is if
you had to name America is gun We're two hundred
and fifty years into this experiment and I don't care
if it's currently made not made ancient antique, whatever, military
not military, you get to pick what would it be. Also,
when we come back where we talk about the guns
of the American Revolution, and then I want to talk
a little bit about kind of where we are today
looking back on fifty years of me being active and
the Second Amendment gun rights movement. Where we were then,
where we are now, huge difference, great improvement, and where
I think we're going. And right now the future looks
very bright. And I'm not sure I could have said that. Well,
I know I could have said that fifty years ago.
Our number here is eighty six six talk gun. I'm
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