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Be 12 00:00:42,439 --> 00:03:03,639 part of it, Paul, Tom Talk Gun Now, here's Tom. 13 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: Welcome to gun Talk. I'm talking. 14 00:01:58,239 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 5: I'm glad you could be here. Happy birthday America two 15 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,840 hundred and fifty years on this Independence Day weekend. So 16 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:09,520 we're gonna have a special gun Talk today and invite 17 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,960 you to be part of it with your thoughts about 18 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,120 our country, about the anniversary, about how we came to be, 19 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:21,319 what we are, about where we are today. I have 20 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,080 a lot of things to talk about. I got some thoughts, 21 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:27,639 kind of some reminiscence that I want to do well. 22 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,319 Of course, we'll talk Independence Day a little bit later on, 23 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:33,879 we're gonna be talking about guns of the Revolution. And 24 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,560 there are some myths out there, a lot of them, 25 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,800 no surprise, perpetuated by movies about the American Revolution and 26 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:49,159 about the guns that they used and the capabilities of 27 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:53,120 those guns. And I have to admit I got a 28 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,240 lot of it wrong, because what do they say, A 29 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,560 lot of the stuff you learned is from the movies. 30 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:00,240 If you don't have any of the play us to 31 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,599 learn it, and if you learn it from the movies, 32 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,639 it's probably wrong, just a simple as that. So let's 33 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,520 see as I'm doing the show today. Just so you know, 34 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,439 and those of you who follow me on X you 35 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:11,599 may have already seen it. I posted I'm wearing for 36 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,120 the live show today. I am wearing America's gun. I 37 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,159 got a nineteen eleven and forty five on and I 38 00:03:18,159 --> 00:03:21,680 also had a special hat made up a ball cap, 39 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,240 went on Amazon and created it just because I thought 40 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,439 of it and said, well, I can do this. And 41 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:30,960 it's a MAGA hat in the it's red and it's 42 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,719 got the white letters on it, but doesn't say what 43 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:38,479 you think. It says, make Americans gunfighters again. 44 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: You can go over on x and take a look 45 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,599 at it. I like it. It was just wild hair. 46 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:44,719 The thought I've already had. 47 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 5: People say as soon as I saw it this morning 48 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,199 when I posted and said we're going to get one 49 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:50,000 of those, I said, well, I had it made. 50 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,879 Speaker 4: You can have it made. Go on Amazon. 51 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,719 Speaker 5: Just get it done, you know, if you like the 52 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:58,599 idea of make Americans gun fighters again. 53 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: So I was thinking about. 54 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 5: Who in the world, who, who who would I have 55 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:07,639 to help me kick off the two hundred and fiftieth 56 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:11,439 Independence Day weekend celebration on gun Talk. 57 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of obvious, isn't that. Who else would 58 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,480 you have? But Ted NuGen? So I grabbed Ted. Here's 59 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:19,079 that interview. 60 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 6: It's gonna be the best year of my life and 61 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:24,879 the worst for my enemies. It's a great balance pression. 62 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 5: All right, we're joining right now by Ted NuGen. Of course, 63 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,519 he is the motor City mad man. He has done 64 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,000 so many things, it's unbelievable. How are you, my friend? 65 00:04:34,759 --> 00:04:35,879 Speaker 7: You know I'm doing so. 66 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:36,639 Speaker 4: Good at stupid. 67 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 6: I improvise, adapt and overcome my family, my band. I 68 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:43,160 got my thirteenth grandchild, River Wolf NuGen. I got a 69 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,000 bunch of FRT triggers, so brass rainbows are us. My 70 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,240 hunting dogs are the best hunting dogs in the world. 71 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,519 Am I missing anything time? 72 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:54,399 Speaker 5: Well, no, let's say that you're inducted to the Legends 73 00:04:54,399 --> 00:04:57,399 of Outdoor Hall of Fame. Being inducted into the Michigan 74 00:04:57,519 --> 00:05:00,279 Outdoor Hall of Fame. This is just a way beyond 75 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:05,480 all of the MotorCity Madman, rock star, unbelievable guitar picker, 76 00:05:05,519 --> 00:05:07,759 and all the other stuff you've done. You know, there 77 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:10,160 are people who know you from your music, but there 78 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,560 are people who know you from your outdoor activism too. 79 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 6: You know, it's a great balance. 80 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 4: Lucky me. 81 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 6: I was born in Detroit nineteen forty eight, right along 82 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:22,480 the Rouge River, which was just a wildlife paradise winding 83 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:25,959 through the Motor City there, and my dad was already 84 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:28,439 a follower of Fred bhar He had such an influence 85 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,920 around the country, but particularly in Michigan where he started 86 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,639 bear archery. So like all kids back then, I was 87 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,399 addicted to projectile management. I made my own sling shots 88 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,560 and the Daisy Red Rider be Begun rules Supreme. But 89 00:05:41,639 --> 00:05:44,160 I made my own bows and arrows down by the 90 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,519 Rouge River and we'd go north and hunt and actually 91 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,839 stop and visit Fred Behar and greatly Michigan's at the 92 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:54,920 time I was born. So that influence really guided me 93 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,360 on a powerful, inescapable, true North compass setting. So here 94 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,040 it is seven, it's seventy eight years later, and my 95 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:06,040 music is so wonderful, my band, my wife Shemane has 96 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,040 become such an advocate for constitutional Christianity conservation. Yeah, I 97 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:16,199 am Ted nugent, exactly what the Founding fathers wanted all 98 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,839 Americans to be. To have a big mouth and stand 99 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,120 up for God, family. 100 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:20,319 Speaker 4: And country. 101 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 6: Call me an expree, call me a radical, but call 102 00:06:22,759 --> 00:06:23,399 me often. 103 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 5: How about two hundred and fifty years this weekend? What 104 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,120 a birthday? 105 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: What you know? 106 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,319 Speaker 5: And we're still in this experiment, but it's going pretty 107 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,040 well right now. 108 00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: You know. It is if you improvise a death and overcome. 109 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,879 And actually, here's a concept. Think when people think they 110 00:06:41,959 --> 00:06:44,839 can carve out an amazing day. Here it is in 111 00:06:44,879 --> 00:06:48,839 a nutshell. And I do celebrate Independence Day every day, 112 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:51,600 but in two hundred and fifty years, I think I 113 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:57,120 can summarize it thusly, the whole world sucks, America sucks less. 114 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,199 But if we don't get back on the constitution. Of 115 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:03,639 course we're gonna suck more. So, yes, I'm carving out 116 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,319 the best days of my life in twenty twenty six. 117 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:11,040 But there is a lot of treachery. There's a lot 118 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,079 of horrible corruption and abuse of power. The founding fathers, 119 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,279 they would run out a rope by Wednesday if they 120 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:22,920 went to Washington, DC. But my family, my band, hunt, 121 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,800 my guide, hunters all summer and all fall, and people 122 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:29,000 come from around the world to share a sunrise. So 123 00:07:29,079 --> 00:07:32,439 far as campfire with me and Tom Gresham, your heart 124 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:40,560 and soul is represented around that campfire. Goodwill, decency, work, ethic, god, family, country, independence, 125 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,560 self sufficiency, always doing good over evil. 126 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:45,879 Speaker 4: So that's alive and well. 127 00:07:45,959 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 6: Now we just got to make sure the government, the media, 128 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,920 and academia catch up. 129 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 5: Right exactly, I got one for you here. We're gonna 130 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,560 switch just a little bit because it describes your life exactly, 131 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,240 and to some extent in my life. I hear people 132 00:07:58,279 --> 00:08:00,199 all the time, you hear the same thing I say. 133 00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:02,199 You know, well, I always wanted to whatever it is 134 00:08:02,199 --> 00:08:03,560 to fill in the blank. I always wanted to do 135 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:05,240 to go hunting. I always wanted to hunt it out. 136 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,720 I always wanted to learn to fly on airplane. I 137 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,959 always and I say, look, you know what, what are 138 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:11,959 you doing? Just start start down the path. Just for 139 00:08:12,079 --> 00:08:14,439 Heaven's sakes, just do it. I don't want to live 140 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,000 a life of I always wanted to. 141 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,959 Speaker 6: Boy, how lucky are we that we figure that out? 142 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,480 And I have to give a lot of the props 143 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,560 to your dad, Grit Gretscham. He raised you to pursue 144 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:27,279 life and happiness and most of it is accomplished in 145 00:08:27,319 --> 00:08:30,480 the great outdoors. And that's how I was raised. And again, 146 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,480 I'm Tom. I'm seventy eight this year, and if the 147 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:37,879 twenty five year old Ted Nuger showed up, I'd kick 148 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,919 his ass because I've taken good care of myself. And again, 149 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,440 I'm surrounded just like you are a gun talk radio. 150 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:51,440 You're surrounded by great people, hardworking, positive, knowledgeable, smart, cocky, 151 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:56,000 funny people. And that describes my life. So it is available. 152 00:08:56,039 --> 00:08:58,919 I live in Texas. In Texas, they have this problem. 153 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:01,600 It's called we're fixed to do something. Well, I'm not 154 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,120 fixing to do anything. I'm already doing it. So I 155 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,600 if I have a dream, and I do, and I 156 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,120 want to do something from the time I graduated from 157 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,080 high school in nineteen sixty seven, I wanted to go 158 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,919 to Alaska with my bow and arrow, so I did. 159 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,399 I wanted to go to Africa with my bow and arrow, 160 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,879 so I made it happen. I wanted to make my 161 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,879 music with the greatest musicians in the world, so I 162 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,559 pursued it with vim and vigor and pisson vinegar. And 163 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,399 that's the name of the game. The American dream is 164 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,840 based on God giving you another day of life. You 165 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,759 need to carp a DM, you need to pursue your 166 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,080 happiness because in America you can. Tom that's the great 167 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,759 two fifty celebration. I think all of our conditions, good, bad, 168 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:49,879 and ugly are the main source of that guy in 169 00:09:49,919 --> 00:09:53,000 the mirror. Look in the mirror. If you got a problem, 170 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,039 that's the guy that caused it. If you have a happiness, 171 00:09:57,399 --> 00:09:59,720 that's the guy that provided it. The guy in the 172 00:09:59,759 --> 00:10:02,960 mid is responsible for every condition we have. 173 00:10:03,879 --> 00:10:07,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a wonderful perspective because you get so many 174 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,360 people that are always looking for someone to blame, to 175 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,000 be mad at, to be outraged about, and of course 176 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,000 online particularly and even with the media. Now the business 177 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,519 model is to get people mad at somebody else and 178 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,639 blame them for whatever slight you're feeling, as you say, 179 00:10:24,799 --> 00:10:27,399 instead of saying, what can I do to help myself? 180 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,399 What can I do to help my family? How do 181 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:32,600 I improve my situation? And people say, we know that's hard. 182 00:10:32,879 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: Guess what. It is hard, and it's. 183 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,399 Speaker 6: Worthwhile improvise, adapt, and overcome. There's a lot of bad 184 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,919 and ugly, unlimited bad and ugly, but there's also unlimited good. 185 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,000 If we prioritize and we communicate with those who are 186 00:10:50,039 --> 00:10:53,919 running for public office to represent we the people, hold 187 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,399 them to constitutional accountability, and this shining city on the 188 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,919 hill will shine once again. 189 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 5: I got to tell you a quick story here. People 190 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,399 will ask me. People say, oh, you know Ted Newsy. Yeah, 191 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:08,039 we've been friends for god I don't know, thirty forty years. 192 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:09,759 And I said, well, you know what, what's the deal? 193 00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:11,240 I said, Look, here's the deal about Ted. You need 194 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:13,840 to understand now what you hear out there. This is 195 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:15,919 not a stick he puts on for the media. What 196 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,919 you're getting is the real Ted. He wakes up like 197 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,720 that in the morning, he goes to bed like that. 198 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,879 That's the real Ted. There is no pretense and there's 199 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,960 no phoniness. You're the real deal. 200 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: Well, thank you for that. 201 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, how dare anybody do otherwise? I mean, there's a 202 00:11:32,639 --> 00:11:38,679 core belief system that the founding fathers met King George's 203 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:45,919 punks at the Concord Bridge, and that defiance, that rebelliousness 204 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,440 is the core DNA of the only experiment in self 205 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,679 government in the history of the world. We do not 206 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:56,519 bend over. We do not comply with authoritarian overreach. 207 00:11:56,799 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: Tom. 208 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 6: It's my honor to share truth, logic and common sense 209 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,799 with you. Thank you for gun talk. I listen to 210 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,639 her religiously. I learn a lot and I have a 211 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:09,679 funny feeling that we are kin We are truth logic 212 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:10,919 and common sense brothers. 213 00:12:10,919 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: So thank you for that. 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This is gun Talk. 263 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,320 Actually if the gun talk radio show you're listening to 264 00:15:13,399 --> 00:15:16,200 now is the beginning of the whole gun talk media empire. 265 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,519 Started this thirty one years ago, kind of as a lark. 266 00:15:20,799 --> 00:15:23,600 Came about as a conversation with Alan got Leave from 267 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,279 the Second Amendment Foundation's talking to him at a cocktail 268 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,200 party at shot Show. 269 00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: He said. 270 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 5: I told him, I said, you know, hell, we ought 271 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,159 to do something together. We've known each other for a while. 272 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,480 I know you published books. And he said, well you 273 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,919 ever have you ever thought about doing radio? I said no, 274 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,200 I've done a fair amount of TV. I've never done 275 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,200 any radio. He said, well you got to do radio. 276 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,240 Well how's that work? And he explained it to me, 277 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,480 and about six seven weeks later, I'm on the radio. 278 00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:51,279 I thought, well, we'll try it for a few weeks. 279 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,120 We'll see if this works. I don't know what's going 280 00:15:53,159 --> 00:15:55,200 to happen here. Well, yeah, there you go thirty one 281 00:15:55,279 --> 00:15:57,679 years and from that we have radio show and TV 282 00:15:57,799 --> 00:16:02,879 shows and online digital little platforms and podcasts, and our 283 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:07,600 own studio complex, content creation center and shooting ranges and 284 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:10,480 everything else. Unbelievable what you could do when you just 285 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,159 you know what it is. And I'm thinking about this, 286 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,000 and look, I'm gonna tell stories. I'm going to go 287 00:16:17,159 --> 00:16:19,519 reminisce a little bit today. I hope that's okay. Well, 288 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:21,480 you know what, you don't have me saying I'm gonna 289 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,200 do it. Because I have the microphone, I can do that. 290 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:30,080 But I was thinking about the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, 291 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:36,399 our birthday of the country, and for whatever reason, it 292 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,759 kind of came together with this thing we do in 293 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:46,159 my family. And I don't remember my dad ever saying it, 294 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,600 but he lived it, and I picked it up from 295 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:53,120 there and I passed it on to my kids and grandkids. 296 00:16:53,360 --> 00:17:02,039 And my thing is now simply this, always say yes, well, 297 00:17:02,039 --> 00:17:02,639 what do I mean? 298 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:04,599 Speaker 4: Now? 299 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 5: Think about that? Because we formed the country because Thomas 300 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,480 Payne wrote common sense, and then the founding fathers of 301 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:19,519 America looked at that and went, huh. 302 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: I would be wacky idea. 303 00:17:19,519 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 5: I mean, we could, we could separate from the British, 304 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:27,359 we could try to pull these independent colonies together. Well 305 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:32,119 that would be hard, but yeah, but they said yes. 306 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:37,200 And when I talked to my family, I said, look, 307 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:39,720 just say yes. If somebody asked you if you can 308 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:43,200 do something, whether or not you can't, whether or not 309 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,559 you've ever done it, if it's something you would like 310 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,839 to do, the answer is yes, Well how can that be, Tom, 311 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:56,799 if you've never done it before, Because at least in 312 00:17:56,799 --> 00:17:59,599 my case, I'm confident I can do it. I'm smart 313 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,960 enough to learn how to do it. I can figure 314 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,759 it out, and in the process I figured it out. 315 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,720 It's amazing how much stuff you can learn. 316 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 4: Now. I fully understand that. 317 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 5: I am a I like to say confidence. Some would 318 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,319 say arrogant or cocky. Yeah, I got it. I got 319 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:20,960 all of that. Okay, I mean it started when I 320 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,119 was very young. I just yeah, I can do that, 321 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,160 whatever it is, I could do that. I watched my 322 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,839 dad work twelve hour days, seven days a week most 323 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,799 of us life, most of it as a freelance writer. 324 00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:36,519 You write articles, you send them off to magazines, and 325 00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:40,599 you hope that somebody accept it and send you a check. Absolutely, 326 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:48,319 no guarantees whatsoever, no steady paycheck, nobody's withholding any money. 327 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,519 You got to do it all yourself. And that's the model. 328 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:53,599 So I said, okay, you just you get it done. 329 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,440 You just work hard, you know. I always say that 330 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,000 the way you beat other people when you're competing with 331 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:05,039 them in business, it's just simply outwork. And it's not 332 00:19:05,599 --> 00:19:07,920 really that difficult because I find that most people are 333 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,039 not really willing to work that hard. When I was 334 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:18,480 starting doing the radio show, I would get up at five. Well, 335 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,319 what I'm talking about. I still get up at five. 336 00:19:20,839 --> 00:19:23,279 My coffee pot is set to go off and start 337 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:26,240 making coffee at five o'clock every morning, and I'm usually 338 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:28,599 up before it is it starts cranking up. And so 339 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,400 but that's just the way I work. And then you 340 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,960 work for ten or twelve hours every day, simple as that. 341 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:37,039 It's amazing what you can do by outworking other people. 342 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:43,519 So back to the idea of always saying yes, it's 343 00:19:43,559 --> 00:19:49,160 an attitude of yeah, I can do that. Part of 344 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,039 that is also saying no one can stop me from 345 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:58,720 doing that. I'll tell a story on myself. When I 346 00:19:58,759 --> 00:20:03,359 was twenty five, I interviewed for my first real real job. 347 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,279 I'd been doing freelance writing and they were hiring to 348 00:20:09,319 --> 00:20:11,440 They needed somebody to be the new editor of Southern 349 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,920 Outdoors magazine in Montgomery, Alabama. I'm twenty five and I 350 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,799 go and interview, go down to Montgomery talking to Helen 351 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,920 Severe bast Anger Sportsman Society. They bought Swed Outdoors, and 352 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,480 I remember clearly talking about cocky young kid, telling her, Look, 353 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:33,480 I know that I'm not the first person you've interviewed, 354 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:37,319 and I know that there are people who are older 355 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,160 and have more experience. I said, but here's the thing, 356 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,400 in six months, it won't matter because I grew up 357 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,319 in this business. 358 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,279 Speaker 4: I know magazines, and in six. 359 00:20:50,079 --> 00:20:52,799 Speaker 5: Months I will know how to do this and I 360 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:57,640 will be doing a great job for you. You know, 361 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,720 whether or not they believe that, or it's just that 362 00:21:01,799 --> 00:21:04,640 I was the youngest, least experienced person and I would 363 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,200 take the money that they were offering, which wasn't very much. 364 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 4: I got the job. Oh bizarre it is. 365 00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:15,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, just tell me it doesn't matter that I'm the 366 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,279 youngest and the least experience because in six months I'm 367 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:19,359 gonna learn all this stuff. 368 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,279 Speaker 4: Always say yes. 369 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: I was having that conversation a few weeks ago at 370 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,480 the Nratio with a new executive at one of the 371 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,079 major firearms companies, and I was explaining that philosophy and 372 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,319 she came back in contacted relationships you know, I just 373 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,559 I loved what you said about that. The concept of 374 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,039 always say yes, because there are always and you know 375 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,400 what it is, there are always people around you who 376 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,680 are willing to say no, oh, we can't do that. 377 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,279 They're always thought when you bring up an idea, or 378 00:21:50,319 --> 00:21:52,119 we can't do that, because no, no, I don't want 379 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,079 to be around people to tell me I can't do it. 380 00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:57,160 What I want to hear is okay, okay, here are 381 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,640 the challenges we have to overcome. Fair enough, all right, 382 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,839 we got challenges, but don't tell me we can't do it, 383 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,920 because we most certainly can do it. And with that attitude, 384 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,920 you can form a company, you can get yourself a 385 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:10,319 new job. 386 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,839 Speaker 4: You else you can do. You can form a. 387 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 5: Brand new country, and you can basically engage in treason, 388 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:22,079 and you can have a revolution, and you can have 389 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,519 this grand experiment we call the United States of America 390 00:22:25,599 --> 00:22:27,160 two hundred and fifty years out. 391 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 4: A boy, what's your story? What did you do for 392 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:37,519 the four Give me a call. Now. 393 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 5: I'm sure that there are a few of you that 394 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,759 went out on Independence Day and fired a firearm, fired 395 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:46,799 a gun through some rounds down range. I would love 396 00:22:46,839 --> 00:22:49,839 to hear those stories. Let's get those range reports coming 397 00:22:49,839 --> 00:22:52,519 in our number. Here is tom Talk gun simple as that. 398 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,359 Oh quick question over on X where I am at 399 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,400 gun Talk. Did you see my new profile picture? What 400 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,960 do you think of the hat? All right, let's go 401 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,839 talk with Larry out of which stuff falls Texas? 402 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,759 Speaker 4: Larry, you got a problem there? What's going on? 403 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 7: Well, I've got a I've got an FN reflex pistol, 404 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,920 and the last few times I took it out shooting, 405 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,559 and I started getting a lot of misfires. You know, 406 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:23,960 a gun goes click instead of bang, and uh, you know, 407 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,640 I thought, okay, you know, sometimes i'ma ain't all that great, 408 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:30,880 but uh, it started happening a lot. And I got 409 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:36,039 to looking at the boat or breech face of the pistol, 410 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,839 and there's a small gouge at about the six o'clock 411 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,519 position on it, and it looks like it's a couple 412 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:45,200 of thousands deep actually, And then I got to looking 413 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,279 at some of the rounds that were misfiring, and the 414 00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:55,200 firing pin indentation is way off center. You know, I'm 415 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,160 homes to them not being perfect, but it's almost coming 416 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,160 to the edge of it. 417 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: And oh, well that would account for it. 418 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 7: Sure, Okay, okay, because I put those rounds in, some 419 00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:08,640 of those rounds in a different pistol, and they went 420 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,359 bang every time. So I've already emailed FN to say, 421 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,680 ask them what they think of the issue, right, I 422 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,599 wanted to kind of ask if you thought I was 423 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,480 on the right trail. 424 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,839 Speaker 5: I do any rough idea of how many rounds you 425 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:26,559 have to do that gun? 426 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 7: One thousand to fifteen hundred? 427 00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:31,039 Speaker 4: Okay, so it's broken in. 428 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 5: We got that one taken care of, but it shouldn't 429 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,480 be broken down at this point either you've done a 430 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:40,839 thousand rounds. No, I don't know what your impression is. 431 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,359 I like that pistol. I just think they did a 432 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,359 really nice job. I think that's a fine carry pistol. 433 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,759 Or what's your impression, Oh. 434 00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 7: It's awesome. It's an awesome pistol. 435 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:50,599 Speaker 4: You know. 436 00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 7: I love the trigger on it. I'm not a I'm 437 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,640 not an expert on any of that. 438 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,319 Speaker 3: But. 439 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 7: The trigger is wonderful on it. The sites are really good. 440 00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:03,880 I just put a I just put an optic on it, 441 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,240 and I'm learning how to use that. 442 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 4: Oh well, that's what. 443 00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,759 Speaker 5: That's the problem. We already all right, you didn't tell 444 00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:16,519 me that. Look, an optic almost always starts to cause misfires. Okay, listen, 445 00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,000 listening to that pause, he's going, all right, Tom's lost it. 446 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 7: Now, what do you know? 447 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:22,559 Speaker 4: I'm just pulling your leg here, a guy. 448 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 7: Okay, Well, I have heard that the extra weight on 449 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,880 the slide might cause the slide to move slower so 450 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,720 you'd get sole piced. But I didn't think that. 451 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, no, no no. It sounds like something 452 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:38,640 weird has worn on it. 453 00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna guess FN's going to say, hey, guys, 454 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,680 we'll send you a label. Throw at the box, send 455 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,920 it back to us. Let's take a look at it and 456 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,799 find out what's going on. 457 00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:47,799 Speaker 7: Uh. 458 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,519 Speaker 5: You know, it's a good company. They're going to stand 459 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,240 behind it. It's you know, the only pain in the 460 00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:53,759 rear is that you got to be without your gun 461 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:55,240 for a little while while you send it in. 462 00:25:56,079 --> 00:25:59,519 Speaker 7: Yeah, fair enough. Do you have a time for a 463 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,160 couple of quick range approach? If I'm making absolutely, let's 464 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,440 go for it. Yeah okay, Well I took your advice 465 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,759 and finally got got some training and I went to 466 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,279 this place range ready. I'm sure you've heard of it. 467 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 4: Okay, By the way, this is not a setup. I 468 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,880 did not know you were going to say that. Okay, 469 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:19,799 I was. 470 00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 7: I was going to you know, they put the show 471 00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:25,559 on while I'm waiting on hold, and I was listening 472 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:28,319 to the commercials you had for range Ready, and I 473 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,279 was going to start off with In no way did 474 00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:30,920 we plan this. 475 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,039 Speaker 14: We did not know. 476 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: We did not know. But I tell you what. 477 00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:39,839 Speaker 7: It was my first formal training outside of the military. 478 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,720 It confirmed that military training is not that great. And 479 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:50,319 my my overall impression is I quickly found out that 480 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,160 I'm not as good as I thought I was, and 481 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,799 I also found out that I can get better than 482 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:02,480 I thought I could. The training was I got. We 483 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,559 Our class was a little light. They didn't have all 484 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,119 the all the students that they normally have, so we 485 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,680 got a lot of extra extra personal attention and everything. 486 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,079 And you know it, it has put me on the 487 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,480 road to correcting forty years of bad habits. 488 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 5: So let me ask you, because it is hard for anybody, 489 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,880 but especially as we get older, for us to say, Okay, 490 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,079 there's stuff I don't know, because we like to think, oh, yeah, 491 00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:32,799 I've lived long enough, I've got this. You know what 492 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,279 do we all heard over and over again. I've been 493 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:38,279 shooting all my life. I was in the military, I 494 00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:41,640 got training there. Why would I ever go take that class? 495 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 4: So what was it that made you go do this? 496 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 7: Well? I I guess I got to give you some 497 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,039 more credit because I got a good laugh out of 498 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:53,880 the Low and Left Society commercials. 499 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 500 00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 7: Oh, when the when the NRA was going through their issues, 501 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,480 I was going to call you up, lunt here to 502 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:02,839 be the president of that because you know you're you're 503 00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:04,799 you're busy, and I would do it for cheaper and 504 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,319 flight commercial. But I can still be president of Low 505 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,200 and Left Foundation or society I got. I got tired 506 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,079 of being crappy, you know, and I shoot pretty yeah, 507 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,039 I shoot pretty good. Minute of bad guy at twenty 508 00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:24,079 five yards. By watching What's happened in the world and 509 00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:27,400 everything like that, and seeing what like Eli Dicken and 510 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,799 a gentleman in Texas at the. 511 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:32,319 Speaker 4: Church ja ja. 512 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, and then the other church in Texas, uh 513 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:45,720 in Sutherland Springs that you know, anything can happen at 514 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,319 any time, and I needed I took a good look 515 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:52,000 at my shooting skills and needed to I felt I 516 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:56,720 needed to get him better, which he's ready. Seemed like 517 00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:57,400 a good idea. 518 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,039 Speaker 4: Which class did you take? 519 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 7: I U, Samiano pistol operator. 520 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:10,039 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, now no people hear me say this, but 521 00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:13,640 I would love to get your take. I think that 522 00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:17,119 Chris Serno is just a gifted instructor. 523 00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:23,559 Speaker 7: He is he is, and you know, the staff members, 524 00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:26,240 the guys that helped him out were awesome, you know, 525 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:29,960 going out there shooting that day. You know, the one 526 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,200 of the fun things is is down there he's got 527 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,359 people that come and help him instruct and stuff. And 528 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,799 some of them are people that have been through classes 529 00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:42,799 before and just want to come in and get some reps. 530 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:46,720 And even those people help instruct and it just it 531 00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,279 makes it for a It makes for a really really 532 00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:53,960 good class because you get you know, you get other 533 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,640 people looking at you saying, hey, Chris, this is happening 534 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,039 over here. What should I tell this guy? Or Chris 535 00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:06,839 g's on it, you know, and uh, yeah, I go 536 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,680 shooting now, and my shooting's improved. And if I start 537 00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:11,720 going off, I start thinking about what I'm doing. I 538 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:13,440 can hear Chris in the back of my head yelling 539 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,079 at me to get on the trip you take about 540 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,119 the trigger, stay on the site, you know, quit looking 541 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,640 at your target after you shoot all the good stuff. 542 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I was going to ask you if 543 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,440 there was one thing, but yeah, you just described it. 544 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,079 It's like, Okay, stay on the sites, but mostly let's 545 00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:30,720 focus on the trigger and stop looking at the stupid target. 546 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Get back, get your eyes hard focused on the sites 547 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,519 or the read not whatever it is. Concentrate on that 548 00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:38,960 and then put ninety percent of your effort on the trigger. 549 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,759 Speaker 4: And then when you finally shift your. 550 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 5: Focus back to the target, then you're going to start 551 00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:43,960 liking what you're seeing. 552 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:49,519 Speaker 7: That is absolutely correct. That is absolutely correct. And I 553 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:51,920 have one more training class I'd like to talk to 554 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,640 you about. If you have a second, sure, go for it. Okay. 555 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,519 So this came through, this came about. It was they 556 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,880 call the class Defend and Save and it's run by 557 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:11,119 two guys, Zero Hour med Solutions and then Lobo Training 558 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,160 Group and they're near Tulsa, Oklahoma. And what they've done 559 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,519 is they put together a stop the bleed type class 560 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:28,400 with shooting involved. It is excellent training. It's a it 561 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,680 was a great booster shot with what I learned at 562 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,440 Range Ready as far as the shooting goes and they 563 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,559 did a little bit more dynamic stuff. It was still 564 00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:39,240 a flat square range, but we got to move laterally 565 00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:41,359 and forward and back and stuff, and that was fun. 566 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,079 But what they also did was basically a stop the 567 00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:51,640 bleed type class, learning tourniquits, wound packing, chess seals, a 568 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,400 little bit on airway and stuff like that. And then 569 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,759 they mixed it up so we'd be shooting and all 570 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:02,079 of a sudden, the instructor would, I'll tournique left arm. 571 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,240 And the process was stop shooting, holster and tournique your 572 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,359 own left arm, one handed, you know, doing it as 573 00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:15,799 if you were shot in the left arm. And that 574 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,279 was exciting, I tell you what. You know, you add 575 00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:20,119 a little stress into it and everything like that, you 576 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,079 learn a lot about yourself and a lot about what 577 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:22,799 you need to work on. 578 00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:24,079 Speaker 4: Well. 579 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 5: It also is eye opening because you realize how much 580 00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:29,359 number one you don't know, and then how much of 581 00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:31,599 what you know is actually incorrect. 582 00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:38,839 Speaker 7: Yep, yep, and you know. And so the sort of 583 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,720 final test, final final fun phase, if you want to 584 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,519 call it, that was they would set up a mannequin 585 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,119 with various injuries and you would have to eliminate targets 586 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,000 and then transition into life saving mode and check check 587 00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:56,039 a person for uh, you know, different wounds and stuff. 588 00:32:56,039 --> 00:33:00,279 And they had they had a way to kind make 589 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:04,319 them bleed. Oh yeah, simulated with water and everything like that. 590 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,039 So you you had to assess, assess the situation. 591 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,039 Speaker 14: Uh uh. 592 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,359 Speaker 7: In my case, it was turning kitting an arm and 593 00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:13,960 then providing a chess seal. 594 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 4: That's that's amazing. 595 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and look good on you for being 596 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,799 willing to go learn new stuff because you know, a 597 00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:22,480 lot of times we get to a certain age, a 598 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,880 lot of people just say I'm I'm done. I'm not 599 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,240 doing that anymore. It takes ever, time, money, all the 600 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,000 rest of it. Let me do one other thing I'm 601 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,319 going to tell you before we go is that you 602 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,599 should take a look at going back to Range ready 603 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,160 when they have the Diagnostic Pistol Instructor class. You are 604 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,519 primed and ready for that one. 605 00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 7: Okay, I will take that under consideration. I'm looking at 606 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,240 going out to Arizona, a little place called Gunsight or 607 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:54,559 something like that I've heard of that can help me out. Yeah, basically, 608 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,960 like you said before, you know, you take you take 609 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,640 a good training class, and you want to take and 610 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:01,680 I can vouch for that. 611 00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:04,319 Speaker 5: You do great, great range of poor It said, Look, 612 00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:05,599 I know Fen's gonna take care of you. 613 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,599 Speaker 4: I appreciate the call, sir, thank you. 614 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,559 Speaker 5: While Larry was talking, he's look at my notes of 615 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,079 one of the things I got to want to talk 616 00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:14,719 about today. I'm going to go ahead and jump down 617 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,599 to this because he said he got tired of being 618 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:24,199 a crummy shooter. One of the questions is, how do 619 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,199 you know if you're any good? How do you know 620 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:27,480 if you're a rummy shooter? How do you know if 621 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,719 you're a good shooter. Well, if you shoot competition, you'll 622 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,079 know real fast. But most of us don't, frankly, and 623 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,599 most of us go out and shoot and do the 624 00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:36,400 same thing over and over again, year after year, and 625 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,199 we think we're okay, and we are okay compared to nothing, 626 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:45,400 because we don't compare ourselves to anything. I hear a 627 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,920 phrase occasionally, the phrase is am I as good as 628 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,400 I can be? And I really don't like that phrase. 629 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,119 And a lot of this stuff is mental. It's programming. 630 00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:06,920 You program yourself in such a way that you are 631 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,559 then motivated to do something or not do something. And 632 00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:13,480 I think the language you use when you think about 633 00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:16,079 stuff like this, is makes a big difference on how 634 00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:22,280 you move forward or not. And saying am I as 635 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,840 good as I can be? To me, that implies that 636 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,559 there is a limit to how good you can be. 637 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,039 I much prefer what can I do to be better? 638 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,320 Because there's always something you can do to be better. 639 00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:43,519 I mean, I can sit here and say, look, I'm 640 00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,440 not going to be as good as Max Michelle or 641 00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:49,280 Jerry Mitchellick or Doug Canning because I'm not okay realistically, 642 00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:53,599 but I don't know how good I can be. But 643 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,559 I guarantee you I can be better than I am now. 644 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,519 And is there a big difference between those two. Maybe 645 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,639 not to some people, but to me it's a big 646 00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,239 difference because to say am I as good as I 647 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,760 can be? Means I'm going to hit a certain point 648 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,320 and then I'm going to stop. And I don't want 649 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,480 to stop. I want to keep trying to be better. 650 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:18,280 I want to you know, I may never at gun 651 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,320 site get what they call the E ticket where you 652 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,079 get the expert rating in a class and it's very 653 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:27,960 subjective and the instructors get together and they decide what 654 00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:31,880 rating each student gets. When you get your certificate. There's 655 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,960 no appeal, there's no argument, there's no whining. You just 656 00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,159 get what you get. And you can get marksmen. You 657 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,079 can get Marksman one, and or you could get expert. 658 00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:42,760 They rarely hand out experts. I've never gotten one. I 659 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,719 may never get one, but that doesn't mean I'm not 660 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,079 going to keep trying. You know, I got up to 661 00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:52,400 Marksman one, which is the next the one right below expert. 662 00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:57,360 But to a certain extent, I really think we need 663 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,639 to work on programming ourselves. You know, am I as 664 00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:04,519 good as I can be? How do I get better? 665 00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:08,199 There's a difference. I want to be getting better every day. 666 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,679 Better every day, get up at five, start working on stuff, 667 00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:14,360 do that thing. 668 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 4: And if. 669 00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 5: I'm going to all this relates back to this two 670 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,360 hundred and fiftyth that version. 671 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:21,679 Speaker 4: Of the country. 672 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,119 Speaker 5: To look at that as an amazing that you have 673 00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:28,679 this group of people. These men had got together and said, Okay, 674 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:31,880 we're going to commit treason together, and they did. That's 675 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:37,119 where it was, we're going to rebel against the government. 676 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,159 Speaker 4: We're going to start a war, and we understand. 677 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 5: We actually put it in this document, this Declaration of 678 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,960 Independence that we came up with that we know that 679 00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:52,920 if they catch us, they will kill us for this, 680 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,280 they will hang us, and we're still going to sign 681 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,440 our names to this. They did that then, so we 682 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,360 can have this country now. And yet there are people 683 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:10,920 now who one of my pet peeves insist I'm posting 684 00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:18,719 anonymously online using made up names, made up handles. Well, 685 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,280 I don't want people to know who I am. You 686 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,800 don't really want to hear my response to that, I 687 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,400 use my real name and always have online for the 688 00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:35,239 very first time, I started posting online in nineteen eighty three, 689 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,639 eighty four, something like that, using an old k pro 690 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:45,360 to a computer. No hard drive, just floppy drives, floppy disk. Well, 691 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,320 it's just my thing. If you say it, you should 692 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,119 own it. You uhould be proud to put your name 693 00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:54,199 on it. If you have to use a fake name 694 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,360 to post, or you're afraid of what people are going 695 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,280 to say, I just would prefer you back to the 696 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480 founder of this. They said, we're going to commit treason. 697 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,760 We're going to come up with a document. We're gonna 698 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,239 actually sign our names on it, knowing that if the 699 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,360 British catch us, they will kill us. 700 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 4: That's betting at all. 701 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 5: We'd not just can we just put our names on stuff? 702 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,360 Eight six six talk Gun. We'll get you in here. 703 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 4: I'm Tom Gresham and this is gun Talk. All right. 704 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 5: I have a question to throw out on the floor 705 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,599 and you can weigh in on this one two hundred 706 00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:38,360 and fifty years of America this weekend. If you had 707 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,079 to name one model that you say this is America's gun, 708 00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:45,920 what would that be? 709 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,159 Speaker 4: Our number? 710 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,599 Speaker 5: Year is Tom Talk Gun. John called in out of Billings, Montana. 711 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,719 Hey John here on what's on your mind? 712 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 14: All right? Tom, nice to talk to you. Yes, sir, 713 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:04,840 I have a question about f RT triggers, specifically the 714 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,760 Franklin f RT. Uh do you recommend putting that in 715 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,960 n AAR fifteen pistol? 716 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,639 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's one of those deals. The answer is 717 00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:18,360 always it depends what do you want to do? I mean, 718 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,239 what's the plan? 719 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,039 Speaker 4: You know? 720 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 5: I mean I think most people know an f part 721 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,239 you force reset trigger. It basically makes a shoots faster. 722 00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:32,039 It starts to approach fil audo speed, but it's not 723 00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:34,760 fill auto. So what do you think and why would 724 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,320 you want with that? 725 00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 14: Just to play with it, just to go out on 726 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:45,840 the range and experiment and play. Yeah, Okay, typical done, nut. 727 00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 4: All right, got it? 728 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,599 Speaker 5: I understand, Okay, I was kind of hoping that's where 729 00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:54,280 you're going to go. Then the answer is an unequivocal yes, 730 00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:56,039 of course, get it. 731 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:56,679 Speaker 4: Try it. 732 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,079 Speaker 5: You know, you can put it in and then you 733 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:00,880 can always take it out if you don't like it. 734 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,239 But I would say put it in there, go to 735 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,639 the range, shoot it. 736 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 4: See if you like it. 737 00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 5: You may decide it's simply a novelty and it's a 738 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,960 fun thing to go to the range and run through 739 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,719 a bunch of AMMO in a hurry, because that's probably 740 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,079 what nine to nine percent of the application is for people. 741 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,119 As for it being effective on, for instance, of self 742 00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:24,719 defense gun, I don't know. I'd have to give that 743 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,719 a little bit more thought. Maybe not so much on 744 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,159 a pistol. Maybe it'd be a little bit easier to 745 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,280 control in a rifle, But I don't know. You know, 746 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,519 I think you got to go to the range and 747 00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:35,320 try it yourself. 748 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 4: What do you think? 749 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 14: That's kind of where I'm at right now. Yeah, yeah, 750 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:42,800 I just. 751 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,199 Speaker 4: Like, just do it. See what you think. 752 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,159 Speaker 5: Oh, you know what, you can be our our crash dummy. 753 00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:49,440 You can try it and then call us back and 754 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,400 let us know what you think. 755 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,159 Speaker 4: Okay, right. 756 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 14: I mean the thing is I already bought on and 757 00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:02,360 I'm hesitating because I don't know that much about I'm 758 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:10,840 not a gunsmith. The instructions seem simple, but I understand 759 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:17,559 that once you put it in sometimes there's a problem 760 00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:22,199 with the tuning and the function and that kind of thing. 761 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 5: Well, I'm just going to tell you YouTube has all 762 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,719 the answers, and you can go on to YouTube and 763 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,679 look for instructions on installing and tuning and FRT trigger 764 00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:34,800 and it'll all be there before. 765 00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 4: You know it. You'll know exactly what you're doing. 766 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 5: And then if you run into problems, you can always 767 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,599 find a gunsmith or somebody at a shooting range who 768 00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,519 knows their stuff. But I would say just go look 769 00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:48,920 on YouTube. There'll be information there, and probably the company 770 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,840 that made the trigger will also help you out. I 771 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,480 got it scowed. I wish you luck with it, and 772 00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:54,119 be sure to let us know how that works out 773 00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:58,840 for you. So the question on the floor is if 774 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,239 you had to name America is gun We're two hundred 775 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,519 and fifty years into this experiment and I don't care 776 00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:13,239 if it's currently made not made ancient antique, whatever, military 777 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:20,840 not military, you get to pick what would it be. Also, 778 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,000 when we come back where we talk about the guns 779 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,960 of the American Revolution, and then I want to talk 780 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,719 a little bit about kind of where we are today 781 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,559 looking back on fifty years of me being active and 782 00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,880 the Second Amendment gun rights movement. Where we were then, 783 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:41,000 where we are now, huge difference, great improvement, and where 784 00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:45,480 I think we're going. And right now the future looks 785 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,519 very bright. And I'm not sure I could have said that. Well, 786 00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:52,639 I know I could have said that fifty years ago. 787 00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:56,239 Our number here is eighty six six talk gun. I'm 788 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:56,960 comgression