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Speaker 3: Wow. Welcome everybody. It is Thursday.
Speaker 4: What is this?
Speaker 3: Swear? This is this is November fourteenth? Man, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 5: Welcome to the Only show about Spartan Dogs hosted by
Speaker 5: Spartan Dogs.
Speaker 3: This is part of ms U. I'man host Jason S.
Speaker 5: Ray Horn, along with my co hosts The One the Only,
Speaker 5: Cedric Swerve and Irvin.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, you got a lot of a lot
Speaker 5: of arct in that. Come on, come on, come on,
Speaker 5: we need it. We need that interergy today.
Speaker 6: Baby, come on, I can not have any bug about
Speaker 6: my dogs right now.
Speaker 4: On the bog I got is about my girl.
Speaker 3: What's it?
Speaker 4: What's my baby name?
Speaker 3: Ayanna? I Ya? You are the girl for me?
Speaker 4: You are the girl I never had yahah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And I got your shirt on baby, Wow, that's the
Speaker 6: only ball I got right now?
Speaker 3: Straight I.
Speaker 4: Illinois. I know we're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 6: Even my my basketball team reminded me of my football
Speaker 6: team straight started off good first half. I think we
Speaker 6: was up the first half right close, close, yeah, at
Speaker 6: last five minutes, boy, I told you I won't glad
Speaker 6: I bet on another team. What you better get some
Speaker 6: sponge psycholigious word. I had to take the point my
Speaker 6: rent was due. Oh man, I still need that other
Speaker 6: win for the mortgage, but I had to pay the rent.
Speaker 6: It's all the world on work. Now you see him smiling.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to see the night game too. Let's do
Speaker 6: it all right.
Speaker 5: You know you talk about getting to that next win,
Speaker 5: missis say, since right now at four wins, three to
Speaker 5: go to get two, three games to get two, we
Speaker 5: win all three of them. That'd be good by me
Speaker 5: because I said seven to five in the beginning of
Speaker 5: the season.
Speaker 3: But we need to get two.
Speaker 5: More wins to get to Bowl eligibility. And it all
Speaker 5: starts on Saturday at two thirty Eastern times in Memorial Stadium, Illinis,
Speaker 5: the Aliini of Illinois. You know they're gonna face the
Speaker 5: sparks were going in there. We invading Champagne, Illinois. Well,
Speaker 5: we're gonna get into that game. To break down to
Speaker 5: that what happened during the Champions Classic. You know down
Speaker 5: there in the atl new venue for Michigan State basketball
Speaker 5: facing you know, I mean, listen, they face Kansas, Okay,
Speaker 5: number one rank Kansas.
Speaker 3: We're gonna break that game down.
Speaker 5: Also talk a lot about recruiting, nil and much much more,
Speaker 5: because that's what we do here on this is Spartan.
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Speaker 5: platf forms that this is sparta And as you got
Speaker 5: a lot of back behind the scenes footage going on,
Speaker 5: swerve smoking cigars in all sorts of locations across the country.
Speaker 5: You know, hey, hey, straight, you know we're gonna be
Speaker 5: on the road going into Champagne just in a few
Speaker 5: few short hours. Swerve, man, Like, let's let's get into
Speaker 5: it right now. Oh man, what he was there?
Speaker 3: What he was at seven o'clock?
Speaker 5: You know, no, noble, noble, uh you know what he
Speaker 5: being first? But I know, I since the fan base
Speaker 5: is a little melancholy, since they're kind of like you, swerve,
Speaker 5: a little down, a little ambigue. They don't know what
Speaker 5: to think where we are, how do we move forward?
Speaker 3: Is this good? Is this bad?
Speaker 5: What's up with this? Staff. What's up with this team?
Speaker 5: Are we any good? We don't talk about it. That's
Speaker 5: what this place is about. Look, Joe Waller, we can't
Speaker 5: put that up there like that. You know, we can't
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 6: Hold on straight, hold on one thing about this in
Speaker 6: Sparta M s U with with with yourself, with and
Speaker 6: me we get to you real and authentic. You know,
Speaker 6: Joe had a great point. He had a great point,
Speaker 6: and his point was something that I was thinking, Okay,
Speaker 6: we'll power five school right straight?
Speaker 3: Are we not? Yes? We power for now?
Speaker 6: Because all right, power for bring me back Sean because
Speaker 6: I got a haircut.
Speaker 3: Look cute listen.
Speaker 6: Uh, So we'll power for school right. And so what
Speaker 6: what people got to understand is not that we hateing
Speaker 6: or whatever it is. We we we know especially you've
Speaker 6: been in and I'm coming right behind you and I
Speaker 6: was just in it two years ago. Far as the
Speaker 6: recruiting is, we know what the other power for schools
Speaker 6: are doing.
Speaker 3: What are they offering?
Speaker 6: So when you sit back as a fan and you
Speaker 6: looking at the recruiting board and we send ourselves while
Speaker 6: were not going after the top dogs, even trying because
Speaker 6: the guy before you he had big enough.
Speaker 3: Nuts to do it. Yeah, huh, you're talking about mel Tucker.
Speaker 6: Tuck went at the big dogs. You know, he stuck
Speaker 6: his chest out there. He believed in hisself. He never
Speaker 6: said anything for it. Oh, we can't compete with the
Speaker 6: other schools or anything like that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So when you sit back as a fan and you say, okay,
Speaker 6: why we're not going after this quarterback?
Speaker 3: Now, look what Michigan done did? Oh man? He I mean,
Speaker 3: we don't need.
Speaker 4: No quarterback because I love our quarterback.
Speaker 7: Boy.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, whoa, it's red cup mama right there.
Speaker 3: Hey baby, you're right about that.
Speaker 5: So I mean, Cedric has decided to go right into
Speaker 5: this and circumvent the entire run down. And we're going
Speaker 5: right at Bryce Underwood right now talking about.
Speaker 3: The LM with one of the half billions.
Speaker 5: I was rumored to be offered to Bryce Underwood, a
Speaker 5: Bellville the number one high school player.
Speaker 3: In in high school in high school, number one.
Speaker 5: Player in high school is in Belleville, Michigan committed to
Speaker 5: LSU sword.
Speaker 6: Straight, let's let's go back to high school. You mean
Speaker 6: to tell me you're gonna give me ten point five?
Speaker 6: And I still gotta walk the hall. I make more
Speaker 6: than my principal.
Speaker 3: Principal. Matter of fact, I could probably buy the school
Speaker 3: from the friend the from.
Speaker 6: The county that ain't no high school casting no ten
Speaker 6: million dollars man, and you Benna tell I'm gonna get
Speaker 6: this on December ninth least, that's my contract, Donna say
Speaker 6: when I signed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how can I go to school? Come on? Man?
Speaker 4: First of all, come on, what can't you tell me?
Speaker 3: Right right? I woulda made two.
Speaker 6: Million out of the year even if throwing tuchdown and
Speaker 6: there they're gonna be guarantee.
Speaker 3: Man, y'all crazy? Come on, man, what.
Speaker 6: Get the security? God tell me at school? What's that side?
Speaker 6: And come on, I'll listen. I mean I see this
Speaker 6: in facts.
Speaker 5: Anybody says facts, uh marine, I mean that's way too
Speaker 5: records for me.
Speaker 3: But it's generating a huge bud.
Speaker 5: This is I can't tell you the amount of d
Speaker 5: ms we've been receiving. You and I both text messages
Speaker 5: calls people saying what the hell's going on?
Speaker 3: And I think this is triggering that. I think that
Speaker 3: all what's going on down the road with.
Speaker 5: All the the the you know, flipping and throwing money
Speaker 5: and all these You know, every time we turn on
Speaker 5: the open the phone up, it's another UH alumni from
Speaker 5: over there down the road, throwing money in trying to
Speaker 5: get more players because they feel like, you know, they
Speaker 5: just had success in one national championship with an asterisk,
Speaker 5: but now they feel like they wanted again, and.
Speaker 3: What are we doing?
Speaker 5: I think that forces us to do an introspective look
Speaker 5: in the mirror.
Speaker 3: Swear. I know you're gonna ask that.
Speaker 5: It forces us to look in the mirror and say,
Speaker 5: what the hell are we doing to compete with that?
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying, is that what's going on?
Speaker 4: The perfect example the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, they going out to getting different pieces, right,
Speaker 6: getting different people, getting the running back, or they get
Speaker 6: another DV and receiver, then go out they go out
Speaker 6: there and make a trade, get another DN. So what
Speaker 6: I'm saying is they going out, the Detroit Lions, going
Speaker 6: out after the best talent for their team right to
Speaker 6: put to compete. All I'm saying is are we even
Speaker 6: trying as an organization to compete? Did we even make
Speaker 6: a call to that court or did we sit back
Speaker 6: and say, oh, you know what, he already committed there
Speaker 6: as you. I mean not, we don't need a quarterback.
Speaker 6: I take my quarterback over a high school quarterback. But
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, just for example. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. You know, I doubt that we even pursued him.
Speaker 6: I know that's my thing, and I want this is
Speaker 6: what I want the fans to know because they get
Speaker 6: on Twitter though. Oh you guys will behave no, no, no,
Speaker 6: I just want to know because guess what, Like I
Speaker 6: told you guys, the guy before, this guy, he had
Speaker 6: big nuts. He didn't care about of Georgia. He didn't
Speaker 6: care if you had a a Notre dame off for
Speaker 6: whatever it is.
Speaker 3: He went in.
Speaker 4: Thinking he can get the best of the beast.
Speaker 3: But he had the backing though right back then, you.
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Speaker 5: Done, you have to have the backing to be able
Speaker 5: to do that, though, right swerve now is it? There
Speaker 5: is the nil infrastructure? Truly there? I'm talking from the
Speaker 5: top down. Now, you know Alan Hallen Athletic, the director.
Speaker 5: You know, is the system set up to where there
Speaker 5: is people that are able to invest in the NIL name,
Speaker 5: image likeness for the football team, basketball team. You know,
Speaker 5: everybody talks about what's going on with the house settlement
Speaker 5: and what's going to happen with revenue share. That's a
Speaker 5: piece of it. That's a fact that it's a piece
Speaker 5: that is not the only thing. There is no cap.
Speaker 5: Get that out of your heads, ladies and gentlemen. There
Speaker 5: is no cap coming. That's not happening. They don't cap.
Speaker 5: So the NFL has a cap as far as the
Speaker 5: salary is concerned, uh, you know, salary pool for each team,
Speaker 5: but they also you also have the ability to go
Speaker 5: out and get your own marketing deals as well, and
Speaker 5: there is no cap on marketing deals.
Speaker 3: NIL is kind of a combination of both of those states.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: So every you know, university, every conference has the ability
Speaker 5: to put together some parameters for their in house version
Speaker 5: or the house settlement slash revenue sharing. But collectives are
Speaker 5: free to do with the whatever they want to do.
Speaker 5: And this is what you're seeing with that ten and
Speaker 5: a half million dollar offer. Someone asked, what's that over
Speaker 5: four or five years? A four year it's rumored to
Speaker 5: be a four year offer for Bryce Underwood out of
Speaker 5: Belleville High School. Ten and a half million dollars four years.
Speaker 6: So you know what, when we get off this show,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get on my knees and I'm a preak
Speaker 6: because I got one more left. Lord, they ain't gotta
Speaker 6: be ten five. Just give us half of ten five.
Speaker 6: We'll go to North Dakota.
Speaker 3: We we we.
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, I moved. Once I move again, I'm going
Speaker 6: in the dorms with my baby. Yeah, we'll go to
Speaker 6: North Dakota.
Speaker 5: Look, look when you see this, so, I mean, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of questions out here. A kid going to
Speaker 5: MSU is gonna be way better off. Can't replace lifetime family.
Speaker 5: These U of M and as you guys rarely see
Speaker 5: each other after college. This is Trevor talking again. So
Speaker 5: will tell you.
Speaker 3: That no, no, no, Treuvor. We'll tell you this is the
Speaker 3: perfect exapple.
Speaker 6: This dude that I'm on this show with barely even
Speaker 6: talked to me when we was on the team for
Speaker 6: two years. Right, So fifty fifty on now with t
Speaker 6: t I'm fifty fifty on that. You know, you can
Speaker 6: go either way, you know, but you ain't got to
Speaker 6: talk to me if I had, you know, make it
Speaker 6: two million a year to walk to campus and looking
Speaker 6: at everybody else who's not making too many. But now
Speaker 6: we talk every day, so you know, I love him
Speaker 6: for it. But he didn't even He wouldn't even give
Speaker 6: me a ride.
Speaker 5: So you were too busy, do you know, not going
Speaker 5: to class, hanging out with Plexico, chasing the wrong people.
Speaker 3: You know, I said, watching.
Speaker 5: And you know exactly what I'm talking about too, But
Speaker 5: what he car They're gonna end up like Jerry Jones
Speaker 5: and Dallas number one and throwing money away, good money
Speaker 5: after bad.
Speaker 3: So to that point, Woody, are you saying that who wins? There?
Speaker 5: Are you saying to not throw the money, not get
Speaker 5: the players and just have different Like like, what what's
Speaker 5: the strategy there? I get that, I understand, like let's hate,
Speaker 5: let's hate them. I hate him, but what is that?
Speaker 5: What does that get you or what does that get us?
Speaker 3: Swerve? Can you help me with this?
Speaker 4: I don't know what that job?
Speaker 6: Rashard, You're right, I mean either he was a hell
Speaker 6: of a player, He did a hell of a job
Speaker 6: playing center, being bow legged and pigeon toe with that
Speaker 6: big ass head boy.
Speaker 4: He was strongest one on the team. He did a
Speaker 4: hell of a job.
Speaker 6: I'm not knocking that he didn't even have to give
Speaker 6: me a ride because the way he blocked made me
Speaker 6: able to buy my own ride, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: But what you were saying straight, it's all about the
Speaker 6: rat now.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's all about the rat.
Speaker 6: Now if you think about that, you know what Michigan
Speaker 6: is doing is making noise because they gotta make noise,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, They gotta They gotta have somebody,
Speaker 6: somebody had to go in there and say, hell, hey
Speaker 6: go this and this.
Speaker 4: We gotta do whatever we gotta do to get that quarterback.
Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And if that's the number, but just know, if LS
Speaker 4: you really want them LS, you can go ten point six.
Speaker 3: That they got. So is that gonna tip the scales?
Speaker 4: I wish I was I wish I was a stepdaddy
Speaker 4: of his uncle.
Speaker 5: We might have talked to those people. So, I mean,
Speaker 5: these rumors are are are absolutely true. You know, Just
Speaker 5: just for the record, I know this is stuff. This
Speaker 5: stuff is going on. I don't even know if those
Speaker 5: numbers are accurate. Those numbers might be a little light.
Speaker 5: It's based on the stuff that I'm hearing out here
Speaker 5: with Bryce Underwood.
Speaker 3: And you know, look, man, I.
Speaker 5: Don't see the Pandora is out the box, the Genie's
Speaker 5: out the bottle, and I don't see it getting any
Speaker 5: better anytime soon.
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Speaker 5: So when you see a scenario like that, when in
Speaker 5: regards to nil is it, do you would you rather
Speaker 5: And I'm asking the people in to chat to comment,
Speaker 5: would you rather sit back and say, look, let's not
Speaker 5: let's not get in that game because it's bad. We
Speaker 5: don't want to we don't want to be involved in that.
Speaker 5: We want to take the high row or do you
Speaker 5: want do you want to win? Do you want to
Speaker 5: get involved in this? Because I'm gonna tell you Michigan
Speaker 5: is not the only one that's gonna be doing this.
Speaker 5: I mean, we know Miami is doing, we know Texas doing,
Speaker 5: we know Oregon, Ohio State. I mean, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 5: The list goes on and on and on with schools
Speaker 5: who are competing to be in one of those twelve spots.
Speaker 5: You know, we can do a whole We're gonna do
Speaker 5: a whole show on the college fotball playoffs right now
Speaker 5: it's not pertinent. This is not where we are right now.
Speaker 5: We are very Michigan State focused. So what we're gonna
Speaker 5: talk about the college football playoffs scenario for but to
Speaker 5: piss everybody off, I don't know, Swerve what you think, man.
Speaker 4: So let me ask you this. What about the players
Speaker 4: that we have now on the team.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because these guys right now not playing for free.
Speaker 6: Because at the end of the day, this is what
Speaker 6: college football is right now, right everybody going to they
Speaker 6: you South hayzus guy out there because they just lost,
Speaker 6: and the kids saying, coach, I need I just saw
Speaker 6: the story he need eight hundred thousand by Friday.
Speaker 3: Who's this?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a story that Warren Sapp said that
Speaker 6: a kid told him that you know they Nick, They
Speaker 6: went to Nick Saban and said, hey, we need such
Speaker 6: and such.
Speaker 4: You know eight hundred nine hundred thousand by Friday. If
Speaker 4: not we in the portal. That was one of those
Speaker 4: the cases. I never knew the number, but I heard
Speaker 4: the story.
Speaker 6: So what I'm saying is we got guys that that's
Speaker 6: getting money a money right monthly. So all twenty two
Speaker 6: starters getting money right now, straight right.
Speaker 3: They're getting money, but not monthly.
Speaker 6: Ye yes, yes, Oh so now you as a fan, lumni, whatever,
Speaker 6: I'm all for it. Man get every I'm telling you,
Speaker 6: I'm telling you what I'm telling my bub We're gonna
Speaker 6: get everything. But what I'm saying is if if, if
Speaker 6: you're getting money. Now you see here as a fan
Speaker 6: and you're looking like a certain player, you say, Okay,
Speaker 6: what is this guy make?
Speaker 3: Is he worth it? You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And then you got to think, also, what do we
Speaker 6: need to do to make our team better? But like
Speaker 6: you say, do he have the backing? That what Joe
Speaker 6: was saying, what's what's up with the collective?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 6: What's going on? That's why I say I should run
Speaker 6: for a d because I'm I'm I'm I'm asking everybody.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm getting every dime, every pen, I'm kissing
Speaker 6: every baby. Whatever I gotta do to compete with the
Speaker 6: people down the street, the people over Yonder, the people
Speaker 6: down in Miami, and the people out there in Oregon.
Speaker 3: I gotta do whatever I gotta do.
Speaker 4: To have a chance.
Speaker 6: That's right, Because if you go away to Oregon and
Speaker 6: you you living way down Yonder, come come, come, to
Speaker 6: East Lansing. It had to be talk mindset, cause he
Speaker 6: had people coming on campus and you'll think, like, damn,
Speaker 6: I was I was sitting back, like how that guy
Speaker 6: going to Michigan State.
Speaker 3: At least on a visit?
Speaker 6: Mm hm, okay, tup with down in Georgia. Tug had
Speaker 6: a chance. You know, you know, he's doing his thing.
Speaker 6: He's throwing it out there. That's the problem. That's a
Speaker 6: question right there now with it. So so there's a
Speaker 6: philosophical difference. You talk about Mel Tucker.
Speaker 5: He was in the Saving Tree, came out of obviously Cleveland, Ohio,
Speaker 5: was it Michigan State as a grad assistant when we
Speaker 5: played here at Michigan State.
Speaker 3: He goes down to LSU with Nick Saban, was at
Speaker 3: minam of Ohio, Ohio State, NFL for a long time,
Speaker 3: ten years in NFL, then Georgia obviously Bamma as well
Speaker 3: with Nick, but Georgia. Then he gets a head coach
Speaker 3: a job in Colorado, then eventually back to Michigan State.
Speaker 5: Do you think that that mindset and like what he
Speaker 5: saw in the SEC the NFL groomed him to be
Speaker 5: a little bit more aggressive versus where we are now
Speaker 5: and we have Jonathan Smith who Pasadena, California. He walked
Speaker 5: on to Oregon State. He's been around, you know, Washington,
Speaker 5: Boysey State, never really east of the Rockies, you know,
Speaker 5: not as aggressive of a of an environment of recruiting
Speaker 5: as the SEC Okay and Nick Saban. Now he's here
Speaker 5: in the Big ten at Michigan State. And what do
Speaker 5: the fans want? What do they expect out of a
Speaker 5: Jonathan Smith?
Speaker 6: I mean, for one, you got to understand, like you said,
Speaker 6: the key word is do he have the back end?
Speaker 3: You know? Is he is?
Speaker 8: He?
Speaker 6: Is he having that close meeting with the ad and
Speaker 6: say who can I go to? Because I'm not a
Speaker 6: Michigan State guy. I'm not a Big ten guy. I
Speaker 6: don't know the area, I don't know the history, I
Speaker 6: don't know the money guys. You know, how can I
Speaker 6: have a dinner with these guys?
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 6: Action?
Speaker 3: Coaches? Though? Who's your who's your money? People?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: What that that's the key behind it because it's not
Speaker 6: like it's coming out of his pocket, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And like I said, and for all the fans out
Speaker 6: that we have nothing against the coaches that I love.
Speaker 6: What they're doing. You know, we just got to finish
Speaker 6: game and it happened. I'm a realist, you know, I
Speaker 6: would love to win every game. But did I really
Speaker 6: think we was gonna ren win every game?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: But the end of the day, I want to know
Speaker 4: what's the what's our mindset?
Speaker 6: Because to be honest, I'm calling and I'm saying, hey, man,
Speaker 6: I got this kid. You know, at least take a
Speaker 6: look at him. Why because I can get in this ear.
Speaker 6: I know it's daddy. I can at least get him
Speaker 6: on campus. Now, y'all got to finish the deal.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You got to offer my
Speaker 3: son because we got forty one.
Speaker 4: We're good. You know, we don't need forty two.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Even though I know my son, Daddy. You know, I
Speaker 6: know I'm real good. You ain't got to even though
Speaker 6: I brought.
Speaker 3: Him to you. You know your son, Daddy, everybody too.
Speaker 6: But the end of the day, what I'm saying is
Speaker 6: you got people that's trying to help you know or something.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just confusing, man.
Speaker 6: And it's only confusing because you know, we take pride
Speaker 6: and what we did at the school and how much
Speaker 6: we loved the school, so it ain't so much criticism.
Speaker 6: We just want to know, Hey, are we out there
Speaker 6: trying to compete with everybody else with the top dogs,
Speaker 6: or we just sell for who's selling for us?
Speaker 3: That's the question that I got. Yeah, hanging with plex,
Speaker 3: that's that's that's that's a good question.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a better guy. Now.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't I want you to know I was. You know,
Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about what he says that.
Speaker 5: No, man, show me something that is worth the cash.
Speaker 5: I don't know who he's saying. Who he needs somebody
Speaker 5: that's worth money, wins and talent. All right, So then look, Marlin,
Speaker 5: he says we got to get involved. We need to
Speaker 5: drop five mili on some linemen. Great point on both sides. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the offense and defense. You know, there's the strategy. I
Speaker 5: think I've heard this before. People ask questions about what
Speaker 5: is the strategy for the offensive line and defensive line,
Speaker 5: because that's an area of expertise. You just talked about
Speaker 5: the Detroit Lions. Swere you brought the Detroit Lions up?
Speaker 5: They got one. When you look at their line, the trenches,
Speaker 5: the way that they're built. Man, Hey, they built from
Speaker 5: the inside out. You know, they have great interior linemen
Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball. How do you do
Speaker 5: that right now? In Michigan State Finn on the offensive
Speaker 5: and defensive lines. Defensive lines did start off really good,
Speaker 5: was in the top ten and sacks produced through three
Speaker 5: four games and haven't produced any sacks since.
Speaker 3: You know, what is that from? Is it a talent thing?
Speaker 3: Is it a scheme thing? You know?
Speaker 5: Joe Rossi, I think is a phenomenal defensive coordinator, but
Speaker 5: have not got to the quarterback in about five weeks.
Speaker 3: That's too much.
Speaker 5: Offensive line had a ton of injuries, especially at the
Speaker 5: especially at the right guard position. And how do you
Speaker 5: build an offensive line going into next season when you
Speaker 5: look at is it through the recruiting trying to get
Speaker 5: five stars?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know as well I do. A
Speaker 3: five star high.
Speaker 5: School kid is still gonna take some time, most of
Speaker 5: the time to develop.
Speaker 3: You know, there's only so many Jordan Seatings of the
Speaker 3: world that's out there.
Speaker 5: In Colorado. He went to a softer conference. To be
Speaker 5: real here, the big twelve great player was at IMG
Speaker 5: and now one of like a freshman All American because
Speaker 5: he's got the opportunity.
Speaker 3: He's playing against the big twelve talent.
Speaker 5: He didn't go to Alabama, you know, jumping right into
Speaker 5: the the fire in the SEC or other big ten.
Speaker 5: He's at the Big twelve. I think Michigan State is
Speaker 5: going to target players in the portal. But in order
Speaker 5: to get players out of the portal, you still, what
Speaker 5: do you needsworth, I ain't got I ain't gotta ask you,
Speaker 5: but you just tell telling people what you need when
Speaker 5: you're going into the portal.
Speaker 4: So now of me asks you this straight. Why did
Speaker 4: we lose the d lines that we lost?
Speaker 3: You already know why. It's the same.
Speaker 5: It's the same. It's we're going back. We're going round
Speaker 5: and round here. We lost harming to organ money.
Speaker 3: We lost my man, Baryl Simeon sim down in Miami.
Speaker 4: So now my question is how lost.
Speaker 3: Ryan Young missoo money.
Speaker 6: So the point is I'm saying is to replace that
Speaker 6: type of talent or that body size or that figure
Speaker 6: right now, it's gonna cost you some money to be
Speaker 6: to compete, right think about it. That's that's all of
Speaker 6: That's what the game. And then a lot of us
Speaker 6: hate it. You know, a lot of people don't like it.
Speaker 6: But guess what, Like I tell people, I'm seventy thirty
Speaker 6: on it because at the same time, you know, these
Speaker 6: coaches can do what they want to do and there's
Speaker 6: no penalty for it, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 6: then when you have some kids struggling to you know,
Speaker 6: you know, everybody want to say, you know, you get
Speaker 6: so much money with a scholarship.
Speaker 3: This and this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but you don't know my situation, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: when you got a chance right now to get it
Speaker 6: right now, why not get it when they're giving it.
Speaker 6: That's what That's the only thing I was saying before
Speaker 6: when we had some guys on Twitter action ou no, no, no,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. All I want to know,
Speaker 6: as an alumni, as a Spartan dog, as a fan,
Speaker 6: as somebody who loved Michigan State, what is our plan
Speaker 6: and who.
Speaker 3: Were going out there?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And are we using all our sources or even that
Speaker 6: what is our sources? You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's all. That's all we want to know.
Speaker 6: And if you can answer those questions, you can tell
Speaker 6: us I got nothing with the guys you recruiting. But
Speaker 6: now are we going for the top? Do we got
Speaker 6: that much confidence? Or we just gonna get you know,
Speaker 6: need to get that whatever suit the program?
Speaker 3: Well guess what. That ain't gonna work in the power for.
Speaker 4: Hell no, you better look at the team that's gonna
Speaker 4: be in the top twelve.
Speaker 6: Yeah, watch every let's that's.
Speaker 5: Not what we want though, you know, because there are
Speaker 5: people on campus in high decision making positions that don't
Speaker 5: necessarily think that we need to be there.
Speaker 3: Now that's a fact.
Speaker 6: Well, but let the fans know we're not trying to
Speaker 6: go to the Rose Bowl, the twelve, the playoff and
Speaker 6: all that. We just want to be six and five
Speaker 6: or six and four and go to a whatever old
Speaker 6: game before December thirty first. And then that's the case,
Speaker 6: then okay, then I can be a fan somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Then No, don't see there thinking that I want to
Speaker 3: compete against the I don't know. Maybe the fans are okay,
Speaker 3: six and man, fans don't get that. Okay with that,
Speaker 3: get that ass out of here from being a fan then.
Speaker 5: No, man, listen, I don't do you know that? Yeah,
Speaker 5: maybe everybody's not as competitive as you are. I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't know if the fans really dode Michigan State
Speaker 5: fans really want to win championships? Are we okay beating
Speaker 5: Michigan every now and then and making it to a
Speaker 5: Bowl game like That's that's really the question. That's what
Speaker 5: you got to take inventory of as a fan base.
Speaker 5: What do we want? Because as former players, we know
Speaker 5: what we would like to see, we know what it
Speaker 5: what we want to cheer for. We understand that it's
Speaker 5: different something it may be different for others. And that's
Speaker 5: the question. That's what we're here to talk about. Do
Speaker 5: you want to win it all? Or do you just
Speaker 5: want to win some of it?
Speaker 6: So let me ask you this great, So when you
Speaker 6: pay a coach over five million dollars, because that's that's
Speaker 6: the that's seven million, it's none of what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Why when you're paying over five million, because I'm guessing
Speaker 6: five is like, you know, above average or whatever the
Speaker 6: you know, the the rate man be.
Speaker 3: He aren't making five.
Speaker 6: So if you paid a coach seven we just said, okay,
Speaker 6: I get a coach you know, three years. But a
Speaker 6: good point last time where you say okay, the Indiana
Speaker 6: coach year. And then I also was bored having a
Speaker 6: good cigar, and I saw that Oregon State is like
Speaker 6: five and three or six and something like sixty and
Speaker 6: three or something like that, with a new coach too.
Speaker 6: So it kind of puzzled me because when my CTE
Speaker 6: kicked in, I was like, why the hell? First of all,
Speaker 6: I'm watching Oregon State, and then I look at the record,
Speaker 6: the record better than ours. And we took their coach
Speaker 6: and their quarterback and they center and they tight end
Speaker 6: and the decoordinated. Oh, they got a new staff. So
Speaker 6: I was kind of you know, I think, I hope
Speaker 6: they ain't putting nothing in my cigars straight, but it
Speaker 6: kind of.
Speaker 3: Like puzzling me.
Speaker 6: Now we're paying a guy seven, which I ain't got. No,
Speaker 6: it ain't my pocket. But when you come with seven,
Speaker 6: don't expectation, come with it. That's all imagazin. If not
Speaker 6: paying fold, I'll go get caught, go get there to
Speaker 6: do it. I do it for three.
Speaker 3: We ain't expected nothing, but I'm gonna win. Though.
Speaker 5: I think some of the ansis that we've been getting
Speaker 5: because you know, we talked. I've gotten this comment a
Speaker 5: few more than a few times on my social media
Speaker 5: and in my DMS, and on my text message and
Speaker 5: phone calls. We want to give you feedback based off
Speaker 5: of what people are asking.
Speaker 3: I'm hearing over and over again that.
Speaker 5: We faced three first year head coaches in Boston College
Speaker 5: with Bill O'Brien and down the road with Sharon Moore,
Speaker 5: and also Indiana with Kirk Signetti.
Speaker 3: Lost all three.
Speaker 5: Okay, none of them are making the same amount as
Speaker 5: the staff in Michigan State.
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Speaker 5: And arguably, when you look at those games, I just
Speaker 5: want Trevor, you know the encyclededa, how did you think
Speaker 5: those games went? How did you think they win? Were
Speaker 5: we out talented? Were we out classed? That's I think.
Speaker 5: What's what that's the question? Were we out classed? Was
Speaker 5: it Alabama two thousand and twelve, whatever that was when
Speaker 5: they can't undefeated, you know, twenty first rounders and all that?
Speaker 5: Or what did you feel? Because that's this is we're
Speaker 5: getting real here now, this is family. This is family talk.
Speaker 5: We're getting real, all right, swear you know it's okay.
Speaker 5: I know, I know you might get nervous.
Speaker 6: Were you know, I get pissed out. So when you
Speaker 6: say outclass that mean out coached?
Speaker 3: Well I'm asking.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, were we out classed as far as talent
Speaker 5: or out coached.
Speaker 6: And you know the sad part about it, we had
Speaker 6: a chance in all three, at least Indiana.
Speaker 4: We started off tough like we was.
Speaker 6: You know, we made them uncomfortable, which I told you,
Speaker 6: you know, with my my I still got my on
Speaker 6: and that's what I came up where we got to
Speaker 6: make them uncomfortable, you know, because we're saying some shits
Speaker 6: straight at mark Ingram and all them doing on NBC
Speaker 6: whatever they do, they not getting the info like we getting.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, People ain't breaking it down,
Speaker 6: don't want to give us credit like that, But shit,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give us our credit myself. We're doing a
Speaker 6: hell of a job straight. But listen, that's a great
Speaker 6: question at the end of the day, it's all about
Speaker 6: how you how you look at it, because in all
Speaker 6: three of those games we had a shot. It wasn't
Speaker 6: like you know, like I don't know if you saw
Speaker 6: the game against uh old Miss and Georgia. Old Miss
Speaker 6: beat Georgia ass physically, mentally, whatever. None of those three
Speaker 6: teams just came in and punched us in the mouth.
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, we started off punching them in the mouth,
Speaker 6: all all Trion, all Trion. We were punching the ass
Speaker 6: in the mouth, physical coming our boom boom bone.
Speaker 3: We just didn't finish.
Speaker 6: So now when you say that, are we missing a
Speaker 6: couple of dolls that we played a couple more dollars we.
Speaker 3: Could finish, you know what I mean? So it can go?
Speaker 6: Or did we get did we make the right adjustments
Speaker 6: that have to come out against the Indiana to take
Speaker 6: how we started at the beginning?
Speaker 3: What's the adjustments? That's a good question. What were the adjustments?
Speaker 5: I mean ten to nothing, first time Indiana ever trailed
Speaker 5: all season long, ten to nothing and they scored forty
Speaker 5: seven unanswered ports. I think you know, I've gotten that
Speaker 5: from a lot of people that aren't feeling very positive
Speaker 5: right now, that hearing the Less go Hoosiers or that
Speaker 5: whatever that was in Spartan Stadium drove them off a head.
Speaker 5: They are in a position it's worse than the election.
Speaker 5: When you talk about what's going on with people's emotions
Speaker 5: right now, it's bad, you know.
Speaker 3: The Less.
Speaker 6: I'm glad I wanted to hear Mullys saying let's go Hue.
Speaker 6: I would have been like the police cop at the
Speaker 6: Florida game.
Speaker 3: That's what's that. Oh, you didn't see the police guy
Speaker 3: at the Florida game.
Speaker 6: When when he oh beating somebody, he woke up that
Speaker 6: morning saying, somebody gonna catch the hand. So if I
Speaker 6: would have been in that stadium and I would have
Speaker 6: heard let's go Hoosia.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, I'd have been yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: Let's so, Trevor.
Speaker 5: Let's let's remember last year's MSU players were angry because
Speaker 5: money was unequally divided.
Speaker 3: This year better distributed.
Speaker 5: Uf N paid three and a half million for natty
Speaker 5: last year and sixteen point six for a six and
Speaker 5: six record this year. Where did you get three and
Speaker 5: four for a natty last year? The Trevor Trevor's usually
Speaker 5: spot on, You're dead wrong on that one. They paid
Speaker 5: more than three point four million. Brother, that one player
Speaker 5: got about that. I know that to be fact, Trevor.
Speaker 5: So that's that's one of the first times I can
Speaker 5: tell Trevor. I can call bullshit on Trevor. That is hard.
Speaker 5: It's hard to do that with Trevor because he is
Speaker 5: a damn encyclopedia. But that that, my friend, is bullshit.
Speaker 5: Maureen is there a way to get Darien Harris or
Speaker 5: Otis Wiley on the show that you had some light
Speaker 5: on our efforts. Yes, you know, we'll invite him. We'll
Speaker 5: definitely invite him. I'll see those guys tomorrow. I'll say,
Speaker 5: you know what, more Old Maureen say, come on the show.
Speaker 5: Let's see what they say. I don't know what they
Speaker 5: know about this though, This is this is beyond Darien
Speaker 5: Harris and and ODIs. Wow, what they what do they
Speaker 5: have to do with this? Honestly, they don't really have
Speaker 5: a lot to do with this. You know, they they
Speaker 5: are taking they they have to work within the confines.
Speaker 5: They're great young men, you know, doing what they need
Speaker 5: to do at Michigan State University, play fly Athletics, Playfi
Speaker 5: sports properties.
Speaker 3: They don't make the decisions of who gets like. They don't.
Speaker 3: That's not their job at all.
Speaker 5: So this is that we're not trying to lay the
Speaker 5: blame on somebody, especially any former players.
Speaker 3: You know. It's it's it's who controls this.
Speaker 5: The fans, fans control more than you think you control.
Speaker 5: It's not the administra it ain't the coach, it ain't.
Speaker 3: Players can only play is as good as they are right, list,
Speaker 3: work straight. What's the.
Speaker 6: Thing that Western Michigan doing. I just I can't read
Speaker 6: like you, but I can read a little bit. What's
Speaker 6: the thing that Western Michigan doing? And I want to know?
Speaker 4: I was going to ask you and I get a
Speaker 4: chance that jerdy and well.
Speaker 5: We don't read this. We don't read this. We're gonna
Speaker 5: read this statement because I gotta take a breath here,
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Speaker 3: There you go, agree, man, Come, I ain't gonna do
Speaker 3: it like that. Masters what this is saying, you can
Speaker 3: take this down.
Speaker 5: We're not gonna read everything and test our cognitive skills
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not Joe Biden. Listen.
Speaker 5: We are looking at a partnership between a collective and
Speaker 5: the the fundraising arm of a university within the state
Speaker 5: of Michigan. Okay, that's not the Big Boys, right, It's
Speaker 5: not Michigan, Michigan State. So that's equivalent to a collective
Speaker 5: being partners with the Spartan Fund. Listen, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 5: you the truth. All I've ever heard from our administration
Speaker 5: is that that right there is illegal. Now, all I
Speaker 5: do is read, and when I go around the country
Speaker 5: and I see a Maria Irving, I see Caden straight,
Speaker 5: Colden straight, I see them going to camps. Okay, and
Speaker 5: I talked to the coaches all over the country. That's
Speaker 5: bullshit too. Yes, Okay, they do it everywhere else, but here.
Speaker 5: They say it's illegal. It's illegal. It's illegal. Now we
Speaker 5: got Western Michigan, Okay doing it and they and they
Speaker 5: neither one of our sons go. We have no affiliation
Speaker 5: with them. That's a fact that right there is a
Speaker 5: fact that's going on in Calamba Zoo.
Speaker 3: I can have some affiliation.
Speaker 6: I just need to know what the number is, Astraight,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna call think, gotta know the coach over there.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it that the coach from Louisville.
Speaker 3: I don't believe it. I don't know even the old.
Speaker 4: C and he came.
Speaker 6: He was at Stanford. I gotta think of his name.
Speaker 6: But if that's him, he gave me the number of
Speaker 6: me and my baby. We coming, you know, Idaana say,
Speaker 6: we coming? We cover what's what's the number between you
Speaker 6: and the collective?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 6: What what's the number of y'all going on? Hey, they're
Speaker 6: trying to get the numbers out because we all right,
Speaker 6: we ain't got to get ten point five, but you know,
Speaker 6: give us some point five, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, listen, Astral Morgan, not just lining.
Speaker 3: We also need to drop some money on dB as
Speaker 3: real Astray.
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, we should be going after Elijah Johnson in
Speaker 5: state target and Elijah Burr's plexical son.
Speaker 3: Listen, listen, hey, hey, check the mail.
Speaker 5: Is but we gotta put the check in the mail
Speaker 5: because you couldn't have teaved.
Speaker 3: This up better.
Speaker 4: I don't know Elijah Donson, gonna talk to him.
Speaker 6: Elijah Dotson, I don't know, and Elijah Birds. All I'm
Speaker 6: saying is either one of them that if one of
Speaker 6: them a d B, he's gonna have to wake the
Speaker 6: zero honey badger lead and Bird is gonna have.
Speaker 3: To wake the six lead. You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Because boy, bad boy, you know, talking talking, but you
Speaker 6: know the thing about it. When I I did talk
Speaker 6: to place Ago, he felt that, you know, and he
Speaker 6: sat back and he said the same thing. You know,
Speaker 6: those guys didn't recruit like the other guys, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean? And he and he all four, I mean,
Speaker 6: he wanted the one one his son, He want his
Speaker 6: nomber retired. He wanted with son what for into green
Speaker 6: and white because he even said, we ain't wearing rebuts
Speaker 6: now my son like NIKEA. I said, we got all that,
Speaker 6: we got all that. But he's like he had a
Speaker 6: better relationship with other people, which is cool. You know
Speaker 6: whatever the staff like, they like. You know, we gotta
Speaker 6: we're gonna we're gonna support it. We're gonna cheer four.
Speaker 6: We gotta do what we gotta do because what we
Speaker 6: like straight, they don't have to like. Right, Yeah, of
Speaker 6: course because he gets seven? Why somebody gets seven? Men
Speaker 6: gonna listen to me because I ain't give you your
Speaker 6: dying matter of fact, I'm trying to get a free
Speaker 6: teacher's free sweatsuit. Right well, coach, keep doing what you're doing, man,
Speaker 6: I mean, what can we say?
Speaker 5: Hey, Trevor said, the problem with ms U MSU admin
Speaker 5: versus him as you football your point, Astreel says she
Speaker 5: wants to I would just want to get back to
Speaker 5: winning championships.
Speaker 6: Okay, win.
Speaker 5: Every loss cuts me to the thick. Would I have
Speaker 5: you come to a d Hey, I appreciate that, Woody
Speaker 5: nostraight of course. Everybody wants to win. That's g l Okay,
Speaker 5: spin the bag, Okay, Well, I don't want to fan
Speaker 5: out there cheering for my son. Just wants a bowl game.
Speaker 5: That's ridiculous, okay, right, Mama home, We.
Speaker 3: Got that picture of Mama home when she was a
Speaker 3: redskin thing. You don't expect to play these are okay?
Speaker 5: So so when there's there's a lot of these, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of statements here, a lot of comments, man,
Speaker 5: a lot.
Speaker 4: I love it, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, was listening to your miss Combo a couple
Speaker 3: weeks ago.
Speaker 5: The reason we didn't throw deep to marsh was because
Speaker 5: the coaching staff doesn't trust our ooh wow, okay, Travis.
Speaker 3: Then what's the quarterbacks?
Speaker 6: Listen, Travis, I said, when I was at Alabama and
Speaker 6: I was an assistant to the running back coach and
Speaker 6: we won a national championship. I was in the coaching
Speaker 6: every meeting, and I remember when the coach said, we
Speaker 6: gotta get Julio the ball. He got to touch the
Speaker 6: ball eight to eleven times. And I sat and I said,
Speaker 6: why you come up with a number like eleven? He said, Coach,
Speaker 6: we just threw it out there, but we know if
Speaker 6: we can get it, if we can throw it to
Speaker 6: them eleven, he gonna least catch ten. And with him,
Speaker 6: we gonna they're gonna put us least up fourteen to
Speaker 6: seventeen points.
Speaker 3: I say, damn.
Speaker 4: Then I thought about I saw six.
Speaker 6: I said, ooh, we gotta get six the ball eight
Speaker 6: to eleven time at least attempts and see where that
Speaker 6: get us. Right.
Speaker 5: Listen, man, I got that from the Asian attorney Stein
Speaker 5: on your show on hundred percent Truth. So you're the
Speaker 5: bullshit this t No, Trevor, that is bullshit again. Three
Speaker 5: point foward for the whole team. No way, you had
Speaker 5: Will Johnson, you had Listen.
Speaker 6: The unback was getting straight. He had to get he
Speaker 6: was getting three himself. He got three. Come on, man,
Speaker 6: Blake Corp. And uh Edward's got a little over one
Speaker 6: last year. That's just the backfield. Come on, Trevor, Man.
Speaker 5: Come on, Trevor, what are you talking about? You miss hurt.
Speaker 5: I don't know what Stein was talking about. I have
Speaker 5: no idea. I believe you have a photographic memory and
Speaker 5: all that, but that ain't right. I'm just telling you
Speaker 5: it's not right. That's less than what Michigan State had
Speaker 5: in his worst day. Okay, man, Man, it just it
Speaker 5: just keeps going on and off. We're like at the
Speaker 5: end of the day, Nick marsh is gonna be game
Speaker 5: playing this week. Illinois has one of his former high
Speaker 5: school coaches coaching the secondary.
Speaker 3: This is true. His high school head coach is coaching
Speaker 3: at Illinois. Now. Who guess where he's going next year?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: I bet you thirteen push ups.
Speaker 3: I bet you twenty.
Speaker 6: I didn't even know that, but I'm gonna bet you
Speaker 6: he'll gonna be okay. So let's do this. Let's check
Speaker 6: what is Mama tron. Yeah, let's check Mama tron phone
Speaker 6: and the Sun. No, he ain't gonna call it. He
Speaker 6: ain't that stupid to call the Sun phone. But let's
Speaker 6: check Mama tron phone from No. Meet three into the
Speaker 6: until January first, and let's see, dammit, said.
Speaker 5: Old Push of eighty eight, said happy meal, Old thirty three.
Speaker 5: They tracking y'all ass.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I bout I bout eleven Happy Meal,
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Speaker 5: Come on, you can't do this too this man. Listen, man,
Speaker 5: we we beating this up. You know, I don't wanna.
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 5: I don't want to go down this dark road because
Speaker 5: some people may think it's dark. I'm getting it in
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Speaker 5: I We all of us are just responding and reacting
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Speaker 4: Hey straight, I want to give a shot to Steve Man.
Speaker 4: Tight tight shirt wins Steve Man.
Speaker 6: Steve got a big heart, always giving Steve when it
Speaker 6: got this shirt for me? My my, my new girlfriend.
Speaker 6: What's her name again? You out the girl for?
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the pay.
Speaker 4: Oh it's cold, it's Colon Michigan.
Speaker 3: Man, come on, man, it's oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I wanted to bet you that that jacket is a medium.
Speaker 3: Oh it's the twins right there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, I appreciate you, Steve Man, appreciate your baby.
Speaker 3: It really look Steve, I look like you. No, man,
Speaker 3: you need it two sizes of smaller for Steve.
Speaker 5: But look, mister into Illinois said Michigan State four and five,
Speaker 5: two and four in the Big Ten, going against Illinois,
Speaker 5: who is six and three overall.
Speaker 3: They're already Bowl eligible, three and three in the Big Ten.
Speaker 5: We're ranked a week ago before they lost a tough
Speaker 5: game to Minnesota.
Speaker 3: How do you think this game goes for the Spartans
Speaker 3: after a bye week?
Speaker 6: You know, I think I think with the head coach
Speaker 6: and office of coordinator, they're very creative. So we're gonna
Speaker 6: come out with some new wrinkles and I think we're
Speaker 6: gonna our m O Ben right now. We start fast,
Speaker 6: But what we learned in life, it ain't how you start,
Speaker 6: is how you finish. So I'm hoping that we we
Speaker 6: came up with a plan to finish strong in all
Speaker 6: three phases of the game. You know, I even want
Speaker 6: to see some trick plays in the in the special
Speaker 6: team game. I mean, hell, what we got to lose.
Speaker 6: Now we gotta try to finish. We got to try
Speaker 6: to find out a way to get two wins, and
Speaker 6: these last three so you gotta throw the kitchen stink
Speaker 6: sink at everything. We got a fourth and one fourth
Speaker 6: and three, fourth and five. Hey, we got to go
Speaker 6: for it. You know, I want to see what you're
Speaker 6: made of. So that's that's the thing I think we
Speaker 6: had to focus on. You know, how can we get
Speaker 6: more more explosive plays? You know, how can we finish?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 6: And it's the same thing with defense. I can't see
Speaker 6: here and say let's start the run or let's stop
Speaker 6: him from passing the ball. We kind of above average
Speaker 6: on both. It just how can we finish? And on offense,
Speaker 6: how can we be grip better in the red area,
Speaker 6: red red zone? And then on special team. Let's come
Speaker 6: up with some wrinkle. Let's do something fake peel gold,
Speaker 6: fake pun. I mean that was that was the guy
Speaker 6: who we retired. He gonna throw you something in the right.
Speaker 6: He gonna give you a fake pund or fake field
Speaker 6: goal to throw it over the top.
Speaker 3: I mean, coach d did it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So I just think I know, if I'm willing to
Speaker 6: bet you offensive, we're gonna come out more creative. And
Speaker 6: I couldn't get my drone in because they was inside.
Speaker 6: I guess it's getting cold up there, and and my
Speaker 6: drone don't work too good in the cold.
Speaker 5: Stret you gotta talk to somebody over in Champagne. Next week,
Speaker 5: you know, we got Purdue. We gotta figure it out.
Speaker 5: We get the West Life yet get that drone footage?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, we kicking Purdue as they they Sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 6: we beating Purdue.
Speaker 7: I ain't.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm wearing my mortgage back. Yeah easily.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's next week.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I know we're beating them.
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think this game is very evenly matched.
Speaker 5: I mean when you look at the two teams and
Speaker 5: the history so far this year. Uh, yeah, there there's
Speaker 5: you know, offensively, defensively is very even. But you just
Speaker 5: you mentioned it. You said it, you said red zone,
Speaker 5: the red area. Michigan State offensively not so good in
Speaker 5: the red zone.
Speaker 3: Illinois is.
Speaker 5: Defensively, Michigan State is very good in the red zone,
Speaker 5: mission Illinois is not. So that that's the area right there,
Speaker 5: that's the matchup. Who's gonna show up in the red
Speaker 5: zone to be able to get those seven points? And
Speaker 5: then the turnovers. I mean, if if we are honest
Speaker 5: outside of the two games of Oregon and in Ohio State,
Speaker 5: and even in those games, turnovers were paramount the losses
Speaker 5: that Michigan State has has mounted up, has has has
Speaker 5: ah gotten We're direct result of the turnovers.
Speaker 3: If we could hold on to the football, not turn
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 5: Over, not have those moments you know in the game,
Speaker 5: everybody knows what's going on here, no interception of fumbles,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard to beat. I think this is
Speaker 5: a game that's very winnable. Memorial Stadium in Champagne is
Speaker 5: not an intimidating place to play. This ain't going to
Speaker 5: Outson Stadium over in Oregon. This is not the horseshoe
Speaker 5: in Columbus is not the big house.
Speaker 3: This ain't none of that. So they should be able
Speaker 3: to go in there and.
Speaker 5: Inflict pain on the aln n if they do it
Speaker 5: the right ways. I think that they after a break
Speaker 5: like this, you know, it reminds me of how it
Speaker 5: was going into homecoming against Iowa. Physical team, very disciplined.
Speaker 5: You know, Brett Belama, lead team, Brett Beilama. You know
Speaker 5: you want to get into a chess match with Brett.
Speaker 5: That's what I think. I think this is where Jonathan
Speaker 5: Smith can show his shops right here, can earn his
Speaker 5: chops and show that he's a better chess player than
Speaker 5: Brett Belerman. At the end of the day, hit him
Speaker 5: in the mouth, don't turn the damn ball over. Good
Speaker 5: things will happen, especially on the road against Illinois in Champagne.
Speaker 3: Swerve straight.
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this so so because you know,
Speaker 6: we get these people and I love it. I love
Speaker 6: to coments on Twitter. I love everybody's opinion. Trusting man,
Speaker 6: I strive off of it. But I was just sitting
Speaker 6: there listening, and I know you're.
Speaker 3: A wise guy.
Speaker 4: When we get turnover, when we turn the ball over,
Speaker 4: and that affect the game. Do you blame the coach.
Speaker 3: For that we turn the ball over? Right?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: So I'm just saying, so let's play what if Okay, right,
Speaker 6: the Michigan game we turned the ball over?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Who was the other loss we had?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: I think we had some Indiana.
Speaker 6: So if you say, like you said those games that
Speaker 6: we lost that it was real close, not like you know,
Speaker 6: besides out of those two losses, those other losses even
Speaker 6: even Ohio State game, I mean, yeah, we had some turnover.
Speaker 4: And we were you know, we was going back and
Speaker 4: forth with those guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Ear yeah, at the end of the day, this is
Speaker 6: why I wanted just for the fans, the fans on
Speaker 6: Twitter and those who think, you know, we hated this.
Speaker 6: The coach is not playing. You know, we're not against
Speaker 6: the coaching staff, you know what I mean. Just understand
Speaker 6: that we're not. We're supporting it with Cheerdren, I'm fatten.
Speaker 6: But what we're saying is even now, I'm asking you
Speaker 6: when the guys turn the ball over, do you blame
Speaker 6: the coaches or do we make excuses for the guys
Speaker 6: that's turning the ball over? Do we say they're young
Speaker 6: or do we say they need more carries or you know,
Speaker 6: if guys up in the ball or you know, whatever
Speaker 6: it is. So at the end of the day, all
Speaker 6: this thing got to come together. That's all it is.
Speaker 6: That Indiana and Oregon. You know, it's just everybody's on
Speaker 6: the same page and it's coming together and they find
Speaker 6: a way to play sixty minutes and finish the game.
Speaker 6: So just understand this. We just want the best. So
Speaker 6: when you're not giving us the best and we think
Speaker 6: we want more, you gonna take criticism.
Speaker 3: Right Oh man, It's happening all across the country.
Speaker 5: So you know that everywhere everywhere is that criticism.
Speaker 3: In Tuscaloosa, you've been.
Speaker 6: Down there, There's no way I would have took that
Speaker 6: job coming out the Haesus.
Speaker 5: It's criticism everywhere when people are passing it and they
Speaker 5: want to win, and there's nothing wrong with that. And
Speaker 5: we're trying to, you know, bring light to situations like
Speaker 5: put the focal point in the right areas.
Speaker 3: We say guys aren't able to you know, recruit.
Speaker 5: Is it the coach's fault or the support behind him,
Speaker 5: or the people like said said, you know, hey, I
Speaker 5: need I I'll be out here raising the money in
Speaker 5: order to support the coaches so that they can recruit.
Speaker 3: That's straight.
Speaker 4: When I become a D, I would get a bucket
Speaker 4: and I would.
Speaker 6: Go around and have my A D shirt on and
Speaker 6: asking for donation because every little that's red cup around.
Speaker 6: I would with people. I would go to Harry Musk
Speaker 6: and Harry, are you back? I didn't see Harry. She
Speaker 6: said she was coming back. But listen, this is a
Speaker 6: great question. We can edit on this and this is
Speaker 6: my man. Steve Mann and I ain't talking about Dave
Speaker 6: damn man, it neither. What would it take to flip
Speaker 6: a little straight to him? As you our success is
Speaker 6: based on the O and D line. You answered that sword.
Speaker 6: I can't answer that. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: You know what. That's ridiculous, Werve.
Speaker 6: We want to matter of fact, you win and picked
Speaker 6: my nephews up. Bring him on the show cause we live.
Speaker 6: I want to ask you what is gonna?
Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? Man? What is wrong with you?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 3: That's the best question of the night. Can we get answer?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 3: Suddenly clearly amused.
Speaker 5: It's pissing me off because you know, hey, it is
Speaker 5: what of it? I don't get I'm out of my feelings.
Speaker 5: I'm out of my I'm out of my feelings. Final
Speaker 5: thoughts before we get out of here, swerve, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: let you get You ain't gonna let me roll out
Speaker 5: of here unless you get the final go ahead.
Speaker 6: Hey, I just thought that was a great question. But
Speaker 6: listen once again, I ain't you out the girl for me?
Speaker 6: Shout out to the foundation, my man Steve for the shirt.
Speaker 6: But you know the thing I want to say, man,
Speaker 6: you know, to the basketball team. We know it's early.
Speaker 6: You know, those those guys you know, play the tough games.
Speaker 6: Just like my football team. We got to finish. Uh,
Speaker 6: look for more better games coming up with the basketball team.
Speaker 3: But rat now it's about the football. You know.
Speaker 6: We all want to see, like you said, what we're
Speaker 6: gonna do after this break in. And one thing about
Speaker 6: the Michigan State football team right now, I got the
Speaker 6: attention of the fans of the alumnis, and we just
Speaker 6: want more. We want more, and I don't think it's
Speaker 6: bad to want more. You know, you want more. Challenge everyone,
Speaker 6: Challenge the coaches, challenge, the ad challenge everybody.
Speaker 4: Because when I become a d I'm gonna be for
Speaker 4: the people.
Speaker 5: I love it. I love it. It's worth great show tonight.
Speaker 5: Way to keep it real and wrong and appreciate everybody
Speaker 5: forgetting being in the chat and ask the questions. I
Speaker 5: hope we answer some of them. When there's a lot more,
Speaker 5: We'll be back on Tuesday to discuss what happened in
Speaker 5: Champagne and celebrate the victory and smoke with cigar here on.
Speaker 5: This is part of the ms U for Cedric Girvan.
Speaker 5: I'm Jason Strayhorn. This is part of a mess you everybody,
Speaker 5: have a good night. God bless you.
Speaker 6: Go great ke On, get healthy, boy, go white.