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<v Speaker 1>And helping men overcome the perils of addiction in a

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<v Speaker 1>fashion that I enthusiastically support. I've had the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>go and tour the facility, and if you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>if you take the tour and you go and find

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<v Speaker 1>out how the program works, you will be blown away

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<v Speaker 1>as I was at everything required and joining me in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio. Now the executive director. Are you is that

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<v Speaker 1>your official title? Megan? Yes, Megan Shay. She's new to

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<v Speaker 1>that role, but not new to denver So. And we

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<v Speaker 1>also have Derek who has now are you where are

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<v Speaker 1>you in the program?

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<v Speaker 2>Derek, I'm a recovery support manager.

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<v Speaker 1>Recovery support manager? Are you a former addict or recovering addict? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in recovery myself, and that is very common. It's

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<v Speaker 1>step Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>It is twenty of our twenty five staff members have

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<v Speaker 2>been through the program themselves or are actively in recovery.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the point of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's part of the peer to peer model

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<v Speaker 2>where we're not just people that got a degree in

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<v Speaker 2>something and have that on the wall and say hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I read this in a book, right, it might help you.

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<v Speaker 2>We get to with the residents that we work with

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<v Speaker 2>on a daily basis. We get to tell them, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been where you're at. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in this program myself. I'm not asking you

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything that I haven't done, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to give you suggestions and experience through my lived experience

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<v Speaker 2>to help you get out of this cycle of addiction.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you end up in STEP in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>I was homeless before I got to STEP, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went to a detox and the counselor that was there

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<v Speaker 2>when I was seeking treatment said you might want to

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<v Speaker 2>try this place called Step Denver, And I was out

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<v Speaker 2>of options, and so I was willing to do anything

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<v Speaker 2>at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>So you really were at rock bottom definitely when you

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<v Speaker 1>first came into the program. And when you enter the

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<v Speaker 1>program it's called STEP because there are steps that you

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<v Speaker 1>go through and they are physically manifested in where you sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you first come into the program, you have

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<v Speaker 1>these barracks. You know, you're out with all the other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that like for you when you got there

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<v Speaker 1>and you realize like, okay, I'm going to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me what that part was like, Like, how you

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<v Speaker 1>made that first step.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So my experience with STEP, like I should mention that,

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<v Speaker 2>like I chose to sleep on the street instead of

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<v Speaker 2>the shelters because it was safer and cleaner on the

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<v Speaker 2>street than in the shelters. And so I went into

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<v Speaker 2>STEP with the expectation with if it looks, smells, or

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<v Speaker 2>feels like a shelter, I'm not going to stay. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when I walked in and I saw how immaculately

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<v Speaker 2>clean it was twenty four to seven, and how kind

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<v Speaker 2>and comforting the staff members were. And then like I

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<v Speaker 2>get a bed to sleep on instead of like a bunk,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like a really nice bed, and I get

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<v Speaker 2>a closet, and the living space was like beyond what

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<v Speaker 2>I was expecting, and it made me like immediately when

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<v Speaker 2>I walked in, it felt like home. It felt like

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<v Speaker 2>a brotherhood, and it felt comfortable and I felt welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you fall into addiction in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>I got introduced to drugs and alcohol at a very

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<v Speaker 2>young age, just being exposed to in the environment that

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me about what has happened for you just

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<v Speaker 1>as a human since you became You got sober, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you committed to the program, and now you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>working for the program. How has that evolution been for Derek.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's been life saving and life changing. To

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, I'm a completely different person to the selfish,

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<v Speaker 2>self centered, egotistical full of pride and guilt and shame

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<v Speaker 2>and fear before recovery, and now I'm the exact opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of all those things. I have a purpose in my

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<v Speaker 2>life to be of service to other people and to

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<v Speaker 2>help people, and to be a messenger of truth and

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<v Speaker 2>love and an advocate for recovery. And I'm very much

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very much a fan of recovering out loud. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not shy about my recovery and I don't shout it

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<v Speaker 2>from the rooftops like a preacher. But I'm definitely willing

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<v Speaker 2>to have the conversation and have the vulnerable conversations, and

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<v Speaker 2>I lean into discomforts and I lean into fear, and

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<v Speaker 2>I only know how to do these things and just

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<v Speaker 2>be a regular citizen in our community, like tax paying

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<v Speaker 2>member of our community, like a good member. I only

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<v Speaker 2>know how to do those things because Step and the

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<v Speaker 2>twelve Step fellowships that I got involved in.

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<v Speaker 1>Megan, You guys how many people do you think you've

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<v Speaker 1>actually helped over the years. I mean, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>sud asked me thousands. When did Bob Kote start this?

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<v Speaker 1>What year?

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<v Speaker 3>So we were founded in nineteen eighty three. We have

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<v Speaker 3>served thousands of men over the years, but last year

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<v Speaker 3>we served almost four hundred men. So we're now serving

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<v Speaker 3>about four hundred men per year. So, and the key

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<v Speaker 3>is it's not just servings, right, So we consider a

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<v Speaker 3>man served when they've been in our program five plus days.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't consider them served because they had a place

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<v Speaker 3>to stay for one night or we provided them with food.

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<v Speaker 3>To us, true service is they learned something they can

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<v Speaker 3>put into action in their life that is going to

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<v Speaker 3>have an impact in their quality of life, their ability

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<v Speaker 3>to recover, their ability.

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<v Speaker 1>To be self sufficient.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we consider men served after they actually received

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<v Speaker 3>career coaching and peer coaching from men like Derek and

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<v Speaker 3>gone through you know, some of our curriculum and meetings

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<v Speaker 3>and received things that they can actually apply. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the difference too. When you look at shelters,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like heads and beds, right, how many nights did

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<v Speaker 3>they stay for us? It's about them actually receiving the

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<v Speaker 3>tools that they need to become the people that they're

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<v Speaker 3>capable of being. You see what Derek is doing every

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<v Speaker 3>day in his life, the impact he's having on these men.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't want lives to be wasted.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want people on the street living in misery

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<v Speaker 3>and despair. We want them to have purpose and that's

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<v Speaker 3>our main goal, is that they can sustain where I

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<v Speaker 3>learn it step after they leave, not just oh great,

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<v Speaker 3>we served four hundred men.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a challenging population. Addiction is a real tough

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<v Speaker 1>thing and there's a lot of relapse and things of

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<v Speaker 1>that nature. Do you feel like because of the program?

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<v Speaker 1>And either of you can answer this, because this program

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<v Speaker 1>is and I never want to knock any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rehab like there's a there's a form of rehab that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to help people. It may not help all people,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am all in favor of any program that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be clear about that. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>I like about STEP is that it does require that

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<v Speaker 1>accountability portion. It requires self sufficient It requires you to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and get a job, It requires you to

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<v Speaker 1>do these things that bring you back into society. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that do you think that's why it's so successful. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask Derek that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do believe that's why it's so successful. That I was

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<v Speaker 2>telling Megan the other day and spoke about it this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as like we recover in real time. Life

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<v Speaker 2>isn't on pause. We're able to go do those life

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<v Speaker 2>things instead of just focusing just on one thing for

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<v Speaker 2>eight hours a day, which is my addiction and the

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<v Speaker 2>recovery from it. But like I actually get to save

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<v Speaker 2>my money, I get to be accountable for my actions

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<v Speaker 2>within this community. I get to go to the store

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<v Speaker 2>and cook my food. I need to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to make my bed in the right way

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<v Speaker 2>and be accountable for all those things.

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<v Speaker 1>But also like.

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<v Speaker 2>Really just build habits that are going to carry me

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<v Speaker 2>once I get out of said program, because it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to end eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the way you just said I get to

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<v Speaker 1>do these things. I get to have a job, I

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<v Speaker 1>get to do these instead of I have to. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty significant mindset situation there, you know. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>I get to do these things, not I have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Megan, how much does it cost to per man Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's five It's just over five thousand, fifty two. Hundred

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<v Speaker 3>dollars per man, and that's for the entire stay. So

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<v Speaker 3>most men are staying with us for four to six months,

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<v Speaker 3>some up to two years. But if we look at

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<v Speaker 3>how many men we serve in a year in our

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<v Speaker 3>total expenses, it's about fifty two hundred dollars per man,

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<v Speaker 3>which by the way, is one sixth of the cost

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<v Speaker 3>I did the math on one of these hotels, one

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<v Speaker 3>sixth of the cost of just putting someone in a

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<v Speaker 3>hotel room. And so for a fraction we are able

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<v Speaker 3>to help men become self sufficient, get out of that

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<v Speaker 3>cycle of dependency, and be able to contribute because they

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot to contribute, by the way, to their

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<v Speaker 3>community and to their families.

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<v Speaker 1>And just for the person on the text line who

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<v Speaker 1>asked if Mayor Mike had done the tour of step

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<v Speaker 1>Denver yet, that is a big fat no. I asked

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<v Speaker 1>Megan that when he came in, if you would like

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<v Speaker 1>to help out step Denver, and if you're like me,

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<v Speaker 1>I love a hand up program. They could use your donation.

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<v Speaker 1>Today I put a link on the blog today where

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<v Speaker 1>you can go straight to the Colorado Gives page. What

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<v Speaker 1>is the benefit of working through Colorado gives instead of

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<v Speaker 1>a direct donation. Well, there are a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>One is the Colorado Gives Foundation does an incentive fund match,

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<v Speaker 3>so we will have a larger percentage of that incentive

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<v Speaker 3>fund at the end of the day based on how

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<v Speaker 3>many people are supporting step Denver among all of the

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<v Speaker 3>other charities that they're supporting today. We also have a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five thousand dollars match. We have an individual who

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<v Speaker 3>has stepped up and said I will match dollar for

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<v Speaker 3>dollar up to twenty five thousand dollars gifts that are

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<v Speaker 3>received on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>If you just need to hit twenty five thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>then you hit another twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>I about five thousand dollars from that last I was

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<v Speaker 3>going to look on.

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<v Speaker 1>This right now. It doesn't have the thing on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting updates from our director of development. And right before

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<v Speaker 3>we left Step to come here, we were about five

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<v Speaker 3>thousand away from lat so here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>It is yeah, well, no, it's that's a different match. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>There's another cool thing that's happening is Colorado Gives Foundation.

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<v Speaker 3>Any new monthly donation that's made today through Colorado gives

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<v Speaker 3>dot org slash step Denver. People who sign up for

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<v Speaker 3>a monthly gift Colorado Gives Foundation will match their first

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<v Speaker 3>donation okay, dollar for dollars, so there are a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of different matches. There's one other benefit which is new,

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<v Speaker 3>the Homeless Contribution tax credit, So people who give one

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars or more to STEP Denver are eligible for

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty five percent tax credit on that gift, So

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five percent of their gift they'll get back in

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<v Speaker 3>a tax credit on their federal or state TAXI state

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<v Speaker 3>state of Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, my friends, there you go. How long is

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<v Speaker 1>the waitlist for STEP Denver. We never have a waitlist, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>We were actually an overflow two weeks ago for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time, so I've been there six years and I've

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<v Speaker 3>never seen us full. And a couple weeks ago we

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<v Speaker 3>hit sixty one or sixty two and the sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Three bed capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually say we're a sixty bed facility, but we

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<v Speaker 3>have three overflow beds, okay, and we had one overflow

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<v Speaker 3>bed open. So we're very grateful that right now the

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<v Speaker 3>demand is actually leading men to our doors. Men are

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<v Speaker 3>making that choice. But the fact of the matter is,

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<v Speaker 3>at any given time, there are over one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty beds open in this community. We do not have

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<v Speaker 3>a shortage of beds for people to have.

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<v Speaker 1>A shortage of people taking them. Correct. I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to say you do have to go to the program sober, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning if you are intoxicated on anything, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>sober up before you can come through the door, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is reasonable because all of the other men

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<v Speaker 1>there are trying to maintain their sobriety and they don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be around someone who is not sober. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to detox and then go straight to

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<v Speaker 1>step Denver and that is something that's what you did. Derek. Absolutely, Yeah, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you coming in. I love the program.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited you're expanding into Colorado Springs. When is

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<v Speaker 1>that open?

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<v Speaker 3>We are this time next year we hope to have

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<v Speaker 3>our doors open fifty bed facility in Colorado Springs. It'll

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<v Speaker 3>be called STEP Springs. It is our first replication of

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<v Speaker 3>this program. We've now got a forty plus year history,

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<v Speaker 3>we have proof ten years of data proving this works,

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<v Speaker 3>and so now our mission is to take this model

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<v Speaker 3>into communities and reach more men in need of this

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<v Speaker 3>program men like Derek give them that opportunity. So Derek

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<v Speaker 3>will be moving to Colorado Springs to help us launch

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<v Speaker 3>that and give other men the same opportunity he was given.

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<v Speaker 1>They're lucky to have you, Derek.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm blessed to be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Megan shay From an executive director of step Denver and Derek,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much.
