WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:12.720 Welcome to the Cult of Cryptis. Strange encounters of frogs 2 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:17.280 and lizards, dumb my nick children, DoD Man, Bigfoot, Mockman 3 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:22.559 and all their victims. Murray pictures captured by shot witness, 4 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:27.559 ufoes breaking lats of physics, Pictures of aliens. 5 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:28.839 Carving the high rogue glyphics. 6 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.160 This is the bizarre world. 7 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:31.879 That we live in. 8 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:36.799 So sit back, relax, laugh and listen because we're here 9 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:44.119 to talk about some cryptics. This is Tom Thompson Casinos, 10 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:49.280 the Raptilian from Strange Group Podcast, and we're here I 11 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:54.000 called the Conspiracy to talk about some bizarre and strange things. 12 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:59.200 So strap in for this mild and hilarious ride. Now 13 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:04.040 to the show, everybody. The curtains are open. We're checking 14 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:09.519 tickets at the door. It's about to get strange. 15 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:23.799 Everybody. Welcome, Welcome, everybody to another classy Stranger episode. You 16 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:27.120 could say, I do like that name. I think it's uh, 17 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:30.599 it's it fits. I'm one of your hosts of this 18 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:35.719 Crazy Cookie podcast. Tom Kat aka Tom Thompson aka the 19 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:39.400 rap Tillian. Who else do I have in this bitch? 20 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:42.280 Reverend Kaiju aka the tap Brillian. 21 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:44.359 That's funny. 22 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:46.280 You know what the worst part about this is every 23 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.079 time I don't have any of these cool aliases, so 24 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:51.200 I'm like, and then I feel like if I come 25 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:54.599 up with something, it's like cringey because it's just like 26 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:57.680 trying to copy and be like, yeah, I have one too, 27 00:01:58.239 --> 00:01:59.959 I'm just playing. 28 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:05.920 Alder Aaron Aaron is in this bitch. I'll think of 29 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.400 an alias for you one day, ye if you. It 30 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:10.360 was funny for Antel one of those for a long 31 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:13.479 time on the podcast. I ran out of names eventually, 32 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.599 but we would put I would always call Billy something else. 33 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:20.840 It would be like Billy Zane fucking Billy Nelson, the 34 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:26.039 most ridiculous names. Eventually, like I called them billiards one episode, 35 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:29.000 like and eventually I just made brand esteem because I 36 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:33.439 couldn't think of any more. Like so funny though, but yeah, 37 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:36.000 we all have Billy. This is Billy. He's like, I'm Billy, 38 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.319 I'm here. So he's like, you're not the only one 39 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:39.400 that doesn't really have a nickname. 40 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:40.759 That doesn't make me feel as bad. 41 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:45.039 Then we called Billy old Old wide Eyes is his nickname. 42 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:48.719 Old. 43 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:52.319 So this is really interesting actually, and you know, for 44 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:54.960 our listeners this you'll be hearing this a little more often. 45 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.080 We've connected a lot with Aaron, and we all are 46 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.680 becoming a little family, So I want to do more 47 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:05.199 classy Stranger episodes. And this will probably lead into another 48 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:08.120 one after this, and we're not gonna mention it just yet, 49 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.840 but it'll be this will lead into other podcasts that 50 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:13.520 we'll be doing. It kind of is gonna gonna creep 51 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:18.879 up towards something even even creepier than this. But let's 52 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:31.400 go to Ireland. We're talking about the Irish Vanishing Triangle. 53 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:36.360 And I've never heard about this at all, and I 54 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.439 feel like I've heard about a lot of vanishing triangles. 55 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:42.680 Me and Anton just covered the Michigan fucking Triangle like 56 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:46.599 not that long ago, and people are were really digging 57 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:50.840 that episode because it is weird. How many weird At 58 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.960 least this one is is slightly different, though it's not 59 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:57.400 like we're majority of like vanishing triangles or like you know, 60 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.360 the Bermuda Triangle, or like the one in Japan and 61 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.360 how it's like boats and ships go missing. This is 62 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:05.400 just a bunch of women walking down a road and 63 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:06.280 then they disappear. 64 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:08.560 Well, the one in Japan we all know is because 65 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:11.560 of Godzilla, so that's that mystery solved immediately. 66 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:16.560 Do you know what I think? For years over here 67 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:20.920 it was always kind of out there, but only maybe 68 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:25.240 in more modern times, probably since like the invention of 69 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:27.959 things like these Netflix true crime things. Now all of 70 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:32.759 a sudden it's like mainstream. Yeah, there's been like two 71 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:37.040 or three books. There was a book recently written by 72 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:42.240 a guy called Barry Commons which was like. 73 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:41.439 When Come. 74 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:46.680 Went Straight to Number One, and it's like it says 75 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:50.639 it's about Ireland's vanished women and children, but it's basically 76 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:53.240 entirely about the Vanishing Triangle. 77 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:54.439 Have you finished it yet? 78 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:56.839 Yeah? I've actually read it like two or three times. 79 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:58.240 I was just skimming through it. Again. 80 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.079 You read a book two or three times, Jesus one 81 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:02.920 one round. 82 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:06.680 That's normally. Maybe. I don't know why I became fascinated 83 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:08.360 with this. Maybe because it's so close to home. 84 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:09.639 Where are you? 85 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:13.680 Because I did see the map of you know, it's right, 86 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:15.639 it's it's kind of on the fringes of like kill 87 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:19.800 Kenny and stuff like that, and where are you? 88 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:24.160 I'm in Wexford, so I'm down in like the southeast. 89 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:26.120 Okay, Yeah, Because I was looking at a map of it, 90 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:28.199 and it is weird. I was like, I, you know, 91 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:29.920 maybe one day I was tucking at my girlfriend. I 92 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:31.879 was like, you know, it'd be nice if, like, if 93 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:34.279 traveling was free, if we lived more of a utopia. 94 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:36.399 It's a fucking farce, but like the fact that it 95 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:37.920 would be cool if it was just super cheap to 96 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:39.399 travel and you could just be able to because I'd 97 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:42.000 love to go to Ireland and like just climb some 98 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:44.480 fucking mountains and ship and go drink at a pub 99 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:45.240 and get all funs. 100 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:46.879 I feel like they'd kick you out tom the moment 101 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:48.040 you set foot on Irish soil. 102 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:49.319 They just bee like, get let's get the fuck out 103 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:49.560 of here. 104 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:51.720 I have Irish blood in me, so I'd be like, 105 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:53.759 it's me and I'm coming back to my home. I 106 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:58.480 chuck it to my I gotta get. 107 00:05:59.360 --> 00:05:59.639 Oil. 108 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:02.720 He has Irish blood in him, but he's trying to 109 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:04.959 get something more than blood in him in Ireland. 110 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.920 So yeah, there are some good looking shurans. 111 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:10.639 That's yeah, that's that's what I said. 112 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:13.480 Yeah, if you're going to climb mountains, just make sure 113 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:16.000 you don't go anywhere near the Wicklow Mountains because that's 114 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:18.079 where a lot of these stories. 115 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:18.959 See lepra cons are from. 116 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.920 No, this is where all these stories kind of end up. 117 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.800 Yeah, but they're women. Men aren't scared. 118 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.720 Well do you know what? Right? And we'll get into 119 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:30.439 this a little bit later because I want to kind 120 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.560 of focus on this guy and he might actually come 121 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:36.319 up in that future episode you're talking about again. Yes, 122 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.240 there is a guy by the name of Larry Murphy. 123 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:44.120 And I will say that over here. The name Larry 124 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:48.560 Murphy has always been kind of like, I don't want 125 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.439 to say, used as a joke, but like I suppose 126 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:53.040 me and some of the people I hang out with 127 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:54.480 were a bit sick in the head, so it's like, 128 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:57.519 you know, somebody's leaving a party and they're like walking 129 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:01.040 home alone. We live in like a you know, a 130 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:04.959 pretty large town but not large enough to be like 131 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:09.199 a city, you know, and we would always be like, oh, 132 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:10.759 make sure Larry Murphy doesn't get you. 133 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:13.879 So you have like a lore to do with it, 134 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:16.800 almost like oh, Ted Bunny's gonna get you, or fucking 135 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:19.920 if you know Walkee, it's like Jeffrey where the chocolate factory, 136 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:22.000 Jeffrey Dahmer is gonna fucking. 137 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:26.800 And and then I suppose one of the women that 138 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:31.399 was potentially involved in this whole triangle actually went missing 139 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:35.519 in Wexford. So that's another part of this old story. Yeah, 140 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:37.759 and Larry Murphy has a lot of tides to Wexford. 141 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:40.759 And like we said, we'll get into it. Who knows, 142 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:43.560 it might be a serial killer, but it is strange. 143 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.079 Let's say that, like all these women did go missing. 144 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.319 It is it is a really weird case. A second, 145 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:51.959 how even to like my girlfriend about how how many 146 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:54.839 people do actually go missing and how just vanish without 147 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:57.879 a trace, nobody knows where they are. But in this 148 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:00.959 case it might have been the cops being lazy like 149 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:04.160 a lot of times, you know, se. 150 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:05.120 What do you mean in this case? 151 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.240 That's like the case more often than not when you 152 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:09.680 have missing people and the less dead as a copter. 153 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:11.439 Just like I don't really feel like ial with that. 154 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.240 And yeah, obviously there's a statistic, right you have, like 155 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:20.199 where you know, women are more likely to obviously disappear 156 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.720 and they're more scared to be walking on their own. 157 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:25.319 Men are not necessarily the same. I was watching a 158 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:27.560 little video and this woman talks about how this was 159 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:30.519 close to home and she walks everywhere with like fucking 160 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.120 hood overhead and her keys in her hand because this 161 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.399 shit like freaked throughout and she was around the area 162 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:37.360 of where this was at. 163 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:42.919 So rightly, yeah, and I suppose, you know it'd Being 164 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.799 in Ireland in the nineties, we were probably a little 165 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:49.879 bit more. I think sometimes when I see maybe like 166 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:54.519 the American, Canadian, even maybe UK perspective on some of 167 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:56.679 this stuff, it seems to be like, you know what, 168 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:58.559 white didn't to do this, White didn't to do that. 169 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.720 It was at a time in Ireland where you know, 170 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:06.840 if you didn't live with your family, not talking to 171 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:09.519 them for maybe a week two weeks wasn't really out 172 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.960 of the ordinary. There was no cell phones or very 173 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:14.360 very few in Ireland. You know, you had to walk 174 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:15.360 to a phone box. 175 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.360 Oh no, kidding in the nineties, yeah, no shit, wow. 176 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:23.960 So like it was, and I think that had a 177 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:26.440 pretty big part to play in a lot of this stuff. 178 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:29.879 It was a lot more common for you know, people 179 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:31.840 to go maybe a week or two without seeing each 180 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.320 other and you know you would be hit, you know, 181 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:38.039 hitching lifts and stuff like that. It just didn't really, 182 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:40.399 I don't think phase a lot of people now it's 183 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:42.519 a bit strange when like you know, every three months 184 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:45.879 somebody's gone missing in this small area. I mean, Ireland 185 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:47.960 is a pretty small country to start with. But then 186 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:51.600 when you actually candense it down into it, basically the 187 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:57.720 triangle is basically we have different we have like we 188 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:01.559 have different constituencies I you would call so Leinster is 189 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:06.080 basically what covers this entire triangle. So kind of said 190 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:09.559 from like Dublin down a fire is somewhere like Waterford 191 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:12.039 and then across to Wexford and then back up to Dublin. 192 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:15.120 So it kind of forms a triangle. It's a very 193 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:17.960 like it's strange. It's a very large area but also 194 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.519 an extremely small area I think for so many people 195 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:21.480 to go missing from. 196 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:24.320 Missing yeah, yeah, well let's get into it. The term 197 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:27.919 Ireland's Vanishing Triangle was coined by the Irish media in 198 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:32.559 relation to unexplained disappearances of six women throughout Eastern Ireland 199 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.799 during the mid nineteen nineties. The assumed first victim in 200 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:38.759 the Vanishing Triangle is one of Ireland's most famous missing 201 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:43.919 person cases, The American woman of Annie mccarmickmath against mccarnick, 202 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:46.919 who went missing in the spring of nineteen ninety three, 203 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.080 for whatever reason, some of the cases in this series 204 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.759 obviously garner more attention than others from law enforcement, the media, 205 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:57.320 in the public. By nineteen ninety eight, numerous women had 206 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:02.039 been portedly missing in the Eastern Ireland during the previous 207 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:05.840 five years. When nineteen year old is her name, Deirdre 208 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:12.039 Deirdre Deirdre Jacob, vanished just yards from her home in 209 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:15.039 the summer of nineteen ninety eight, the Irish Police Commissioner 210 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.519 Pat Bryan set up an operation to Trace in hope 211 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:22.960 of obviously determining if these six specific cases involving missing 212 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:26.919 women were linked or if say, maybe is serial killer 213 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:30.799 or killers were operating through the Eastern region of Ireland. 214 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.200 The number of cases in this series has been a 215 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:39.200 long obviously disputed, as there are possible links to cases 216 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.759 going far back as the nineteen eighties, so this is 217 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:47.039 quite prevalent. And they I think it just seemed like 218 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:48.960 a lot of the cases they were like, oh, you know, 219 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:52.080 people fucking people just you know, leave and they go 220 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:53.759 hang out with their friends and then they're gone for 221 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:56.480 two weeks. Okay, bud no. 222 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:59.120 But that makes sense if the communication is so scarce 223 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:02.279 that it's like okay, well you know, they just got 224 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:03.919 busy and didn't want to call somebody, So it's not 225 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:05.120 you can just shoot a text and be like, hey, 226 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:05.639 what are you up to? 227 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:08.639 Since I don't have to fucking read anything, I'm gonna 228 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:12.120 hit a bomb with them. I just bought this new one. 229 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:14.440 It's cool. It's like, look at it. It's got a 230 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:15.480 little weird fucking shit. 231 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:17.279 It's a nifty little bong. 232 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:22.240 Yeah, like you said you're in sorry, you said you're 233 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:25.240 from Wexford, right, yeah, Okay, I pulled up a map 234 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.600 of Ireland just to get a frame of reference to 235 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.080 what you're talking about, and you were saying it goes 236 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:33.120 from like Dublin to Arklow to Kilkenny. 237 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.159 That's what the triangle is. Or is it it's Dublin 238 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:35.679 to Wexford. 239 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.559 That kill Yeah, Well, you see, I suppose if you 240 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:42.279 add in, like a lot of these cases are disputed 241 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.799 and and over time now have kind of been disregarded 242 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:49.200 and people say that they aren't part of the Vanish 243 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:52.120 and triangle. But I think if you include like majority 244 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:54.200 of the cases, and there's even more than we'll probably 245 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:59.080 talk about today. Yeah, it goes from Dublin basically to Wexford. 246 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:02.000 Then kind of I would say across as far as 247 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:04.159 like the Waterford area, which would be just. 248 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.320 Like, oh no, shit, Yeah, that's that's pretty big. 249 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:08.639 That's like I take what like a third of the 250 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:10.879 country itself, not counting Northern Ireland. 251 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.000 Yeah, that's fucking nuts. 252 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:15.840 You think if I dressed up like a woman who 253 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:17.879 walked around this area that I would go missing, I 254 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:20.559 would go vanishing, you know, just cross dress a little bit. 255 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:21.759 Are you allowed to say that anymore? 256 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:25.960 So, Like in the first case, the most famous one, 257 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.200 and I would imagine it's because she's she was an 258 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:32.399 American living in Dublin, is probably why that was the 259 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:38.679 most like looked at. Yeah. The story goes that on 260 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:41.759 the days she was last seen, she she left her 261 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:44.159 apartment and she had I think she had rang somebody, 262 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:45.960 a friend or something like that, or someone she was 263 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:49.679 in college or studium, and she wanted to go and 264 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:53.559 visit the Wicklow Mountains. Now I actually made a note 265 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:56.399 of this for anybody who doesn't have any reference. So 266 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:59.799 the Wicklow Mountains are the largest continuous upland area in 267 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:03.679 the public of Ireland. It's spread across several counties from 268 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:08.000 Dublin wickl Carolina Wexford. The area consists of dense bogland 269 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:11.559 and grass, with only three major passes going through the 270 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.480 mountains that are less than two thousand feet So it's 271 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.879 it's a hugely popular tourist attraction. 272 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:19.720 Like it's gorgeous. I can see why. 273 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:22.960 Yeah, like and even with Irish people it's it's quite popular. 274 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:27.960 But the area is so dense with like overgrown forestry 275 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:32.000 and different things like that. I just found it really bizarre. 276 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:37.240 And maybe because she was, you know, not as I suppose, 277 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:41.360 maybe privy to that area, but it just it sounded 278 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:46.519 really bizarre to me that she she went to a 279 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:52.200 supermarket or a grocery store at like, I think three 280 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.600 forty pm that day and then after that got a 281 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:59.600 bus from where she was out towards the Wicklow Mountains. 282 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:03.600 Me at four pm heading for an area like that 283 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.600 seems really really bizarre. 284 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:08.759 Yeah, what are you doing there? 285 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:12.120 Like, like do people tent camp there and everything? 286 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:12.559 Or is it? 287 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:14.080 Yeah, mostly you can do. 288 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:17.440 But I don't think that was I didn't. I couldn't 289 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:20.759 find anywhere that was ever her intention. So when her 290 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:23.000 friend turned down the offer and said she couldn't make it, 291 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:26.480 she decided to get the bus and go anyway, and 292 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:29.600 she didn't bring she didn't bring anything that like indicated 293 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:33.159 that she was like, you know, staying anywhere. So it 294 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.120 was just it seems really weird to me that she 295 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:36.799 was making a journey out to someone like that. 296 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:40.440 This is not the one that the parents thought were suicidal, right, 297 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:43.120 or is it. 298 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:45.840 There's a couple of cases where that kind of comes up, 299 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:47.480 and I don't know if that's just something that people 300 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.039 used to like dismiss. 301 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:51.559 Or whatever, but yeah, because it's quite possible. Like in 302 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.279 one I don't know what woman it was, and they're 303 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.759 talking about how her parents thought she was kind of suicidal, 304 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:59.559 but they she gave no indications of like a letter 305 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.039 or anything like that. And I was like, sometimes people 306 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:04.960 just do it. They don't think about anything else, and 307 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:07.320 they just go when they get the deed done. 308 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:09.200 Well, there are yeah, there are a lot of people 309 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:13.279 that do com to commit suicide who everyone just says 310 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:15.600 that I had no idea. It's like because they've kept 311 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.720 it completely bottled up. So it's always possible, but. 312 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:21.480 It is weird, Like what drove he to this place? 313 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:25.080 Is there any do you know in this forestry? Is 314 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.639 there any other folklore? Like to do with is there 315 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:30.960 any like I don't know, fucking Irish bigfoot sightings or 316 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:34.240 entities or any weird folklore surrounding. 317 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.960 The forest And it's weird, not that I really know of, 318 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:39.399 to be honest, and like I'm always like, damn, I 319 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:41.200 wish it was we had like a big foot story 320 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.200 or something. But honestly, right, and this sounds a little bit, 321 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:49.200 but Larry Murphy is actually like I would consider him 322 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:52.679 like something like that. Yeah, he is like this strange 323 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:57.399 like myth of like you know, I think, after all 324 00:16:57.440 --> 00:16:59.759 this happened and we'll see a little bit later something 325 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:01.960 that he done in the Wicklow Mountains that kind of 326 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:06.960 made him infamous and since then, like he's over here 327 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.759 and even throughout Europe he's like considered, like you know, 328 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:15.119 an extremely extremely dangerous person, and so much so I 329 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:21.599 would say he's even considered the most dangerous person in Ireland. 330 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:27.119 Or he's alive and in jail or as he no, 331 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:31.240 he's walking around free. And he's lived in multiple areas 332 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:35.799 around Leinster, which would be around that you know area 333 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:38.359 that he grew up, in different places. He's been spotted 334 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:41.799 in Dublin, he's been spotted in Wexford. He's spotted in Waterford. 335 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:43.039 And he is said to be a serial killer. 336 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:47.960 Right, yeah, he's connected to at least four of these. Wow, 337 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:50.240 and you'll see a little bit later. I've done a 338 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:53.480 little bit more digging and there's way too many coincidences 339 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:56.400 and there's way too many strange like he shows up 340 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:59.640 in the background in like other cases somehow. 341 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.640 Yeah, that is weird. And considering me and Anton mentioned 342 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:05.839 it right where, it's just like, you know how you 343 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:08.119 don't like people like serial color stuff like that. It's 344 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:11.160 like if you're connected to like two people missing, all right, 345 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:14.240 that's suspicious. But when it's like you're connected to four people, 346 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:17.440 it's just like just gone vanished, missing, don't know where 347 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:21.279 they are. It's like, ah, you if any of us 348 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:23.480 had a connection to one, we would be called in 349 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:24.319 by the cops. 350 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:26.400 And oh yeah we're gonna be we're gonna be fucking interrogated, 351 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:27.240 like there's no tomorrow. 352 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:29.000 But yeah, fucking weird. 353 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:31.359 And like one person, you can almost kind of be like, Okay, 354 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:32.720 well they knew a lot of people or they knew 355 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:34.440 so and so it's not just this one person, but 356 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:36.960 two people. They're just like, hey, what's going on here? 357 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.240 Why are you, you know, connected to so many people 358 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:39.799 that are missing? 359 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:42.279 So what's the deal? There's just not enough evidence to. 360 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.519 Like yeah, and like you'll see now after we I'll 361 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:47.279 do a quick run through of some of the cases 362 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:49.920 first and then you'll kind of see after that, then 363 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.680 we'll tell you back into him. But like, look, Ireland 364 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.000 is a lot smaller obviously than the States, Canada, England, 365 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:59.119 different places like that. But I don't believe that it's 366 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:02.119 small enough for you him to coincidentally be in all 367 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:05.319 these different places and know all these different people and 368 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:07.559 it just happens to be like, oh, yeah, you know, 369 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:09.200 I'm just a guy who likes to kind of travel 370 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.400 around the country. It's like, how are you always around 371 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:12.240 like this? 372 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:15.519 How do you always hear when something bad happens? 373 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.559 Like you're either connected or you're a harbinger, in which case, 374 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:19.160 fuck off. 375 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:23.920 Y there With this case of Anie McCarrick as well, 376 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:27.559 there was a doorman for a pub in Glenn Collin 377 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:30.160 called Johnny Fox's, and he said that he had seen 378 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:34.880 her there that night with an unknown mail. Nobody ever 379 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:38.599 saw her or the male leave the pub, and nobody's 380 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.960 ever come forward. No one's ever identified him. A lot 381 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.960 of people think it's a mistaken identity. That night was 382 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:50.160 like wet, windy, like extremely dark, and the area that 383 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:52.960 she got off the bus would have been six kilometers away. 384 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:58.359 Now, yeah, and you never never rely on people's memories. Yeah, 385 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:01.599 it's been proven time and time again. People's memories suck, 386 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:04.559 especially when it comes to true crime events. 387 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:07.519 Well that's why eyewitness accounts are only, you know, half 388 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:10.079 taken into account on short case and stuff. You need 389 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:11.960 actual physical evidence to convict somebody. 390 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:14.640 Yeah, take a picture next time. Just take a picture 391 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:17.200 everywhere you go to take pictures of people. Okay, eventually 392 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.000 there'll be a murder around you and you'll be able 393 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:20.440 to be like, this is the guy, this is what 394 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:23.279 you look like. Just yeah, wait, the governments are you 395 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:25.160 doing that? They got cameras everywhere, so we're fine. 396 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:30.400 And in recent years, actually there was talk of an 397 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:35.200 IRA killer who apparently was a regular in that pub 398 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:37.119 and he was there that night and he got talking 399 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.319 with her. Apparently she was like quite an attractive girl. 400 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:42.720 So tell people what the IRA is if they don't know, 401 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.359 because there's some Canadians and Americans I wouldn't. 402 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:47.319 It's the Irish Republican Army. 403 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:50.880 There was beef going on in the nineties, wasn't there. 404 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:53.599 Yeah, like the eighties, nineties, wasn't it like a long 405 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:54.759 time because it's the whole. 406 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:58.559 Northern Ireland England connection, right. 407 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:02.599 And like and again this this will sound ridiculous, but 408 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:05.319 I suppose being in a country as small as Ireland, 409 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:08.599 like I will probably I would imagine when this comes out, 410 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:13.000 you're probably Vanish. Well, this will be around. So that's 411 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:15.440 why I had like, and this sounds this might sound 412 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:17.599 ridiculous some people, but I like to be a little 413 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:20.640 bit careful about some topics because the IRA. Some people 414 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:22.799 don't believe that that's the thing, or it's like stuff 415 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.359 on like movies whatever. It's really real and a lot 416 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:29.079 of people who were involved in the IRA are now 417 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:32.160 like retired or I want to call it. And they 418 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:36.720 scattered throughout the country. So but are you talking. 419 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:38.079 About this You're gonna get a fucking hip put on 420 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:38.480 your head. 421 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:42.519 Well, they were, they're essentially this is not my opinion, 422 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:47.400 but they were essentially a terrorist group and done a 423 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:49.920 lot of crazy things. And you know, for a long time, 424 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:51.799 I think it was pitched to the Irish people that 425 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:55.160 it was like they were defending the land and you know, 426 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:56.960 they were like sticking it to the English and they 427 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:59.039 were doing this and they were doing that. And then 428 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:00.920 over time it turned out that a lot of these 429 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.480 dudes were like child rapist martyrs, like would just like 430 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:07.440 do loads of crazy ship to people whoever they want 431 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:10.960 to and get away with it. Then over time I 432 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:13.440 think guys kind of like fizzled out of the IRA, 433 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:16.720 but kind of I suppose use their connections and stuff 434 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:17.880 to become like hitman. 435 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:21.240 And I know you like you like killing, you like 436 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:25.039 killing right, like you got it. There are certain people 437 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:28.200 right that even join like the army or the military 438 00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:30.240 or go to like be rushing to go to war 439 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:33.039 just because they want to get that thrill. And then 440 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:34.759 they start getting used to it was actually in a 441 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:36.880 war setting, and you start getting used to like killing 442 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:38.839 people or you know, then you're like I kind of 443 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:41.039 like this this is my purpose. I'm good at this, 444 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:41.720 and that's. 445 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:44.200 Those are the ones that usually go career and volunteer 446 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:46.319 for a bunch of crazy shit. Because those people, honestly, 447 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:48.400 at least in America, more often than not, those people 448 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:49.000 don't come back. 449 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:50.440 They end up getting killed in battle. 450 00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:55.079 Everyone praises the sniper what's his name, Chris whatever, Kyle. 451 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:59.279 Yeah, I'm not even gonna fucking go into that fucking Nazi. 452 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:00.759 I think he's a psycho. 453 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:04.359 Yes, he's absolutely. I don't. I just I don't know, man, 454 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:06.799 I'm not I'm not pro war so either. 455 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:14.119 So the yeah, apparently, now I don't know how true 456 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:16.079 this is, right, Kobe, just one of those like fucking 457 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:20.119 rumors that people make up. Apparently he had got talking 458 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:22.400 to her. Now, she had no knowledge that this dude 459 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:24.359 had ever been involved in hanging, and they got talking 460 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:27.960 about their lives, and as the drink was flown that 461 00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:31.480 there was a possibility that he had slipped something about 462 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:34.559 something he had done or been involved in, and then 463 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:39.160 as a result, somebody there with him had said, you know, no, 464 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.440 we need to she needs to go, Like asap. 465 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:45.400 I used to know this girl, like I used to 466 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:48.640 know this girl. She's she's she's vanished. But I have 467 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.880 nothing to do with it. Don't worry. He's like, you're 468 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:55.880 drunk and you end up like spilling some spilling some beans. 469 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:58.240 You ever see what blood looks like in the pale 470 00:23:58.279 --> 00:23:59.720 white moonlight, and it's just like, what. 471 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.400 Are you talking man now, I like, I don't know. 472 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.319 There there is a lot more. I didn't really dig 473 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.440 too much into it, but there is a whole backstory 474 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:14.599 about that particular theory. A New York based lawyer, Michael 475 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.279 Griffith and a team of private investigators said that they 476 00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:20.720 had credible information that led them to believe that Annie 477 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:23.279 was never at the pub and was apparently seen by 478 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:27.240 a woman, Margaret Wogan in Poppy's Cafe in Enna Scary. 479 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.319 She said that Annie was with a man with a 480 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:36.079 very square face, and this led authorities to believe, although 481 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:39.240 never having released the information, that this was a man 482 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.359 that she had an intimate relationship with while living in Ireland. 483 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:48.119 Okay, and there's just nothing else that's it strange. 484 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:51.079 It just sounds like someone strung together a theory really quick. 485 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:52.319 And they're like they was fucking. 486 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.319 Like very are they talking about that serial killer? When 487 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:00.640 they say very square face? Dude, so that's something? Does 488 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.079 he have a very square face? When I want what 489 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:05.319 is his name, I'm gonna fucking bring up an image. 490 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:08.000 Of Larry Murphy. I can't say his name to him. 491 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:11.720 If I might summon him, he comes up behind you. 492 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:18.559 He's a weird looking motherfucker. So I suppose that why 493 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:24.400 you dude looks like trouble. Yeah, he's a freaky dude. 494 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:26.680 That says he's a convicted rapist. 495 00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.240 Oh yeah, so and it's funny thing is what the 496 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:32.640 thing he was convicted of, which we'll get to in 497 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:36.920 a minute, actually has nothing to do with the vanishing triangle. 498 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:38.599 Wow. 499 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:42.000 So yeah, that's really weird. So three months after this, 500 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:48.160 I suppose, in the in you know, the aftermath of 501 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:53.119 this whole whirlwind case of Anni McCarrick, a woman called 502 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:56.480 Eva Brennan went missing. Authorities didn't seem to care as 503 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:59.559 much about this case. Eva was said to be very 504 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.039 much a creature of habit and walked from church to 505 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:05.359 her parents' house every Sunday to have dinner. She arrived 506 00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.160 at her parents' house at around one pm with the 507 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:10.480 intention to have dinner, as they did every single weekend. Apparently, 508 00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:13.799 a small argument broke out over something as insignificant and 509 00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:15.599 trivial as what they were going to have for dinner 510 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:19.400 that evening between Eva and her siblings. This caused her 511 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:23.079 to leave her parents' house. That following Tuesday, Nobody had 512 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.599 seen her, and her parents decided to visit the flat 513 00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:28.880 or apartment. The place seemed to be spotless and untouched, 514 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:31.279 while some of her items were missing from the apartment. 515 00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:34.400 Her father noted that the jacket that she was wearing 516 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.039 in the house in their house on that Sunday was 517 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.839 in the apartment, which may indicate that she had returned 518 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:40.920 her before she went missing. 519 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:42.640 Yeah, didn't they have to break in? They had to 520 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.839 break her window to get in, They asked, some dude, OK, here, 521 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.000 how many fucking break this window. 522 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:50.599 The road that she had to travel to get home 523 00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:52.839 from her parents house was extremely busy road, and the 524 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.000 family were all very well known in the area, which 525 00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.240 is unusual that nobody's seen her from the time she 526 00:26:57.319 --> 00:26:59.759 left to head home. Her family later revealed that she 527 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:02.119 saw with bouts of depression from time to time, and 528 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:06.039 this furthered the guardies dismissal of her disappearance and the 529 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.519 case in general. There was no DNA or any real 530 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.920 investigation for nerdie Mont, and this may have hindered the case. 531 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.359 No investigation for anything. 532 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.440 Said, she probably like she was an adult, right, so 533 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.279 they didn't like. They just said she just probably left. 534 00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:22.720 They always do this. We're like, I know my daughter. 535 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:24.880 It wouldn't leave and do this, and then it's just 536 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.920 like the cops, like adults do weird things. It's not 537 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:31.759 a kid. So and this is uh this creepy fun Yeah. 538 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:35.839 So I know there's like, you know, the stereotype of 539 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.640 the smaller community being the safer community and everything like that. 540 00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:42.480 But like, is there like a lot of violent crime 541 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:43.440 in Ireland? Is it? 542 00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:46.759 Is it a thing other than like the politically motivated 543 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:48.319 air quotes on that they. 544 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.839 Stab each other with potatoes, they use potato guns, they 545 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:52.839 throw potatoes. 546 00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:57.440 Christ we both reached through the screen and just slappy 547 00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:57.839 right now. 548 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:01.200 I just want to mention that his eyes, this Larry 549 00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:05.839 Murphy character's eyes are very like he's possessed by some sort. 550 00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.240 Of quick He kind of looks like Jigsaw to me, 551 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.319 it looks like Jigsavi again before he started losing weight 552 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:11.920 from the cancer. 553 00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:16.920 He looks like Jigsaw mixed with fucking Palpatine from Star Wars. 554 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:18.720 Yeah. 555 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.759 Yeah, so yeah, so what's what's the violent crime situation 556 00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:22.279 like in Ireland? 557 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:24.279 So I would have probably said for a long time 558 00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:29.759 that Ireland is quite a safe and easy going country. 559 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.039 But the more I think you dig into these cases, 560 00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.160 the more you realize that that may not be the case. 561 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.640 A lot of older generations now figured that, like, you know, 562 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:42.839 it's finally gotten here. I suppose a lot of times 563 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:44.519 we would look on the news and see like you know, 564 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:47.440 the States and places like that, and they go, all 565 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.880 this crazy stuff happens in other countries and not here. 566 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:51.440 You know, you see the Middle East, all this shit 567 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.279 going on. Yeah, And I don't think that's the case. 568 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.519 I think it's just we were really good at hiding 569 00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.599 it here, and there was a lot of and I 570 00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:01.359 think for the reason of what I just said a 571 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:05.720 second ago about it's quite a small country. It feels 572 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.200 a lot of times like everyone's only maybe one or 573 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.880 two people away from somebody who's a person away from 574 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:16.839 that person. So I think it's like a lot of 575 00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.799 people feel like, well, you know that guy apparently her 576 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.319 boyfriend was the one who don't say anything. We don't 577 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:24.200 want to be involved. It's another business. We don't want 578 00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:27.119 it at our door. That's just yeah, that makes sense. 579 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:30.480 It at arm's length, just like I don't want anything 580 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:31.160 to do with this. 581 00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.240 It's way more drama and like you know, I mean, 582 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:38.599 even like the the whole thing with the chart here 583 00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.680 you know, all the priests abuse and the fucking kids 584 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.039 three years and what when Yeah, when it seems like it's. 585 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.200 Almost worse where you guys are than anywhere else. Like 586 00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:48.559 you guys kind of got the brunt of it. 587 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:53.519 And that's because even when my grandparents were young, you know, 588 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:55.480 something as simple as if you were walking up the 589 00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:58.720 sidewalk and it was a priest or remember a clergy 590 00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.400 walking towards you, didn't matter if there was no it 591 00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.440 didn't matter if there was like twenty people in a 592 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.319 group walking towards them and they were on their own. 593 00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:07.839 You would all have to step off onto the road. 594 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:09.160 And like Genifflect and. 595 00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.880 Like bow, I wouldn't be doing that ship what. 596 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.799 Yeah, No, they like they had control of And apparently 597 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:16.440 if you had went home and said, like, you know, 598 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.359 fucking fat or whatever, you know, grabbed my buttle, like 599 00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:23.279 grab my dick or he hit me or something like that, 600 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:25.319 if you went home and told your parents that, they'd 601 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:30.039 beat the shit out of you for yeah, because they 602 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:31.960 thought like that the church can do no wrong. So 603 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:32.799 that's right. 604 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.359 Father McMurray just didn't my my my pea stick and 605 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:38.000 he did not do that. 606 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:44.000 I think that's why maybe only now it's actually common 607 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.079 to fruition of how much crime and how many fucking 608 00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:48.920 sick motherfuckers are here? 609 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.240 Yeah. Yeah, Well wasn't the Irish constitution. 610 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.039 It was written up by a bunch of a politician 611 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.759 and a priest, right or something like that. Yeah, so 612 00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.680 the church had direct control over it ton of stuff. 613 00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.000 Okay, Yeah, and no wonder. 614 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.839 You guys like, yeah, because a lot of times, obviously 615 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.240 in churchy religious type settings, they're always like, you know, 616 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.200 we don't talk about that, keep that quiet, like just 617 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:13.839 they they don't want to see that there's a massive 618 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.799 issue withinside this faith, in this thing that they worship, 619 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:20.319 in this place that they go, where these men that 620 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:24.640 specifically maybe chose this job strictly to actually blest kids. 621 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.720 So okay, here's here's my other question. Was it because 622 00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:29.759 I know there was the stereotype here as well, like 623 00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:31.480 from when my grandparents were around, which was like, oh, 624 00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:33.720 if you don't stop fucking misbehaving, I'm gonna send you 625 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:35.960 to the convent or I'm gonna send you to whatever. 626 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:38.279 Was that like something that you guys had as well, 627 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:43.240 where it was like wayward kids were sent to a 628 00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.519 reformatory and then became priests or became nuns and stuff, 629 00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.319 just because I know that the the washing thing is 630 00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:51.359 something that you guys had, right, the washrooms or whatever 631 00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:53.240 that they would just take in unwed mothers. 632 00:31:54.079 --> 00:32:01.319 Oh. The the the laundries, the laundries, yes, yeah, Magdalen laundries. 633 00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.119 That that shit is like that's just real fucked up. 634 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.039 What I want to hear about this. I've never heard 635 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.279 about this. Give me a brief. 636 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:15.839 So there is there's these things called like I suppose 637 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.759 mother and baby homes from years ago, so it would 638 00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:22.359 be like see here as well. Like that it was 639 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.920 and probably ontil like maybe in the last you know, 640 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.359 forty fifty years, it was very like you know, if 641 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.759 a young girl got pregnant or anything like that, there 642 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.960 was a lot of like shame and like we don't 643 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.960 want people to think our family is like lesser than 644 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:41.440 anybody else. So a lot of young girls and newborn 645 00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.200 babies were sent away to these like I suppose like 646 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.319 similar to a convent or a boarding school or something 647 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.839 like that. Over the last you know, maybe ten years, 648 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.200 they've discovered like there's one in a place called Cheum, 649 00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:59.119 which is kind of in the middle of Ireland. And 650 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:03.519 they discover the remains of seven hundred and ninety six 651 00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:04.480 dead children. 652 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.200 Oh the fucked It sounds like Canada with their fucking 653 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.960 indigenous schools, the residential schools. That's fucking nuts. 654 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:14.000 And I'm sure that place and this is not the 655 00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.480 only like there's there's like apparently mass graves like all 656 00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:19.599 over Ireland and all these fucked up places. And that 657 00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:21.920 was one of those things where it was like the 658 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:25.279 idea of being sent there was basically like it wasn't 659 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.640 kind of like go somewhere and just kind of start 660 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.680 your life over. It was basically like if I'm going there, 661 00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.920 I'm fucked. Yeah, because we're gonna get Yeah, we're probably 662 00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.359 gonna be like grape and like beaten and fucking martyred 663 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:35.799 or whatever. 664 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.000 The priests were that bad, Oh dude, I thought it. 665 00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:41.559 Was the nuns that were doing most of that ship. 666 00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:43.680 But I would assume that, yeah, for the priests, they're 667 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.559 gonna just let them come in and yeah, yeah. 668 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.759 There's a lot of Gerbils around there. I make light 669 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.960 of dark situations. I was like laughing about like I'm like, yeah, 670 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.000 they fucking diddle kids. But a guy who laugh because 671 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.039 I'm uncomfortable and the fact that this does happened. 672 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.279 So where is this place near? 673 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:09.519 So chum is? I can't remember exactly. Let me see. 674 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:12.440 So it's in County Galway. 675 00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:17.079 Okay, I see goal Away. Oh t u a m Yeah, okay, 676 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:17.599 I see it. 677 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:22.119 Yeah. So yeah, Like, like like you said earlier, Tom, 678 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:26.400 this Eva Brendan girl that went missing in Waterford. The 679 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.360 police basically just went, yeah, look, you did say she 680 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.000 was like depressed from time to time. So I think 681 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.360 she probably threw herself in the river and. 682 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.920 Throw yourself in there, You're just like, go for a swim. 683 00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:38.960 I's like, I'm just gonna get lost within the rapids. 684 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:40.880 Now I love that. That's just the fucking like this 685 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:42.440 should probably just the result on the river. It's fine, 686 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:42.880 it's whatever. 687 00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.239 We're not like the family were like, well, there's no note, 688 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.599 there was no like anything to suggest that the suicide 689 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.280 was even a thing, and they went, yeah, no, we 690 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:57.440 think so and her family are still adamant that she 691 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.719 potentially let someone into her apartment and and that's where 692 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.239 it happened because when they got to the apartment and 693 00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:06.679 the place was like incredibly spotless and tidy. Some of 694 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.960 her stuff was missing, but the jacket that she had 695 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:10.280 been last seen and was there. 696 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:11.599 Hmmm. 697 00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:12.079 I don't know. 698 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.239 If chloroform just like and then just fucking take him 699 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:18.480 into a van, It's it would be very quick. I've 700 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.719 heard stories in Romania about fucking cars pulling up and 701 00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:25.000 like gutting someone for their fucking their their organs for 702 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:27.199 the black market, and it happens within seconds. 703 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.639 Like that seems like an urban legend or an exaggeration. 704 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.880 I'm sure that organ harvesting does happen, but I think 705 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.599 the whole in a matter of seconds outside of a 706 00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:34.440 van seems a little bit. 707 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.559 Do you know I've mentioned that guy on the Reptilian episode. 708 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.119 You know how I talked to that reptile expert when 709 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.519 I worked in restaurants. He was the pest control guy. Okay, 710 00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:44.480 he heard me talking about the Illuminati, and then we 711 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.119 started getting talks. He's the one that told me that 712 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.000 he's a rep He was a reptile expert in that 713 00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:50.039 it would be if your body were to inhabit a soul, 714 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.159 or like a body, your soul would in habit of body, 715 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.840 it would the best would be a reptile because you'd 716 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:56.880 be able to regrow limbs and all the shit that 717 00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.719 reptiles were able to do. This same guy said that 718 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.639 his wife was on a phone with her friend in 719 00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.880 I think Romania, and she was working there and she 720 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.079 was on the phone with him. She's they're married, and 721 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.599 she's at her friend's house or she's having a call 722 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.920 with her friend that is in Romania. And she said 723 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.639 she was on the phone while this her kid was 724 00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.920 playing outside, and this van pulled up and they just 725 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.119 gutted the boy right in the middle and out in 726 00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:26.599 the open, took his and she saw the big bucket. 727 00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:28.880 And this guy told me this story, and I don't 728 00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.719 know if it holds any truth, but and they said 729 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:32.599 the body just dropped and then they got the fuck 730 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.599 out of there, and the woman was screaming on the 731 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:35.960 phone to this guy's wife. 732 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.039 That's pretty fantastic. That's that's horrifying. 733 00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.800 Would this pest control guy lie to me that fucking 734 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:44.079 probably believes in reptilities. 735 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.000 He's got Dale Gribble syndrome and he was huffing too 736 00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:47.880 many fucking lethal chemicals. 737 00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:48.639 Uh. 738 00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:51.960 I love that story all right? Back to back, did 739 00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:53.519 so again. 740 00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:57.800 This is another really short, I guess synopsis of another case. 741 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.920 Some of these cases were kind of really extensive, and 742 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.480 then other ones are just kind of thrown in there 743 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:04.079 in the scene to be like, yeah, we don't give 744 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.159 a shit. So we're moving on to Amelda Keenan, who 745 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.400 went missing on January third, nineteen ninety four. She was 746 00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:13.599 supposedly seen walking by the Tower Hotel in Waterford City 747 00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.960 willout to collect her dole payment, which would be like 748 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.480 a social welfare payment. Waterford is actually probably about forty 749 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:25.119 minutes from where I'm at, so she went to the 750 00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:27.679 post office to collect this, but it was closed due 751 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.199 to being a bank holiday. There are disputes about whether 752 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.760 it was actually closed on the day in question, did 753 00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.239 she even attempt to go and collect the payment as 754 00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.480 the only person to say this was her fiance, who 755 00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:44.320 didn't report her missing as keilty considering that she went 756 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.960 out to run some errands and didn't come home. The 757 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.440 witness who saw Melda by the Tower Hotel has been 758 00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.559 called into question also regarding her memory of the entire thing. 759 00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:56.159 There's very little information about this case, and it falls 760 00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:58.480 in the middle of somewhere between people feeling that it 761 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.440 is part of the vanishing trying, while many others don't. 762 00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:04.280 The only suspicious person in the case is her partner, 763 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.760 Mark Wall. The red flags include him not reporting her missing. 764 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.559 Story about the post office may have been made up 765 00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.039 and he didn't realize that they weren't open that day 766 00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.440 due to the bank all day. And he is also 767 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:18.679 the only person to report that Amelda had told him 768 00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.800 not long ago or not long before she disappeared, that 769 00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.079 she was down and out, which seemed like he was 770 00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.519 pushing all the time for a suicide story. 771 00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.320 That is weird. He seems super sketchy. 772 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:31.079 Again. 773 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.559 I just don't know how you just kind of go, yeah, no, 774 00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:35.039 I guess it has nothing to do with him. 775 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.159 Yeah, I know, I don't get that or like or 776 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:38.639 at least look for more evidence. But I guess if 777 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.199 you really don't have evidence, guy, then his story. 778 00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.000 And shit, yeah, like there's there's I need to be 779 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:49.199 very careful about one of the cases in particular, because 780 00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:51.880 it's probably like ten minutes away from her. Oh shit, 781 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:52.559 do you. 782 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.920 Think that people are gonna fight, like listen to this 783 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.079 and then find you. 784 00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.679 You know what? Right? That was a genuine concern because 785 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.360 I've been fascinated by this case and I really want 786 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:06.480 to dig into it, and I like for obviously, you know, 787 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:08.360 for entered him and purposes or whatever, but I was 788 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:11.079 actually genuinely fascinated of, like I really want to take 789 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.280 a look at this and have a conversation about like 790 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.639 what the fuck is the story with this? But then obviously, 791 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.199 you know, we have some lighthearted fun and I often worry, 792 00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:22.800 like you know, how obviously there's real people involved that 793 00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.360 are like actually affected, like somebody belonged to them has 794 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:25.920 gotten missing. 795 00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:27.280 Yeah, and. 796 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.920 So for anybody who does this to I'm not trying 797 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.239 to make you know, light of the situation any think, 798 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.559 it's just I think it's, like Tom said earlier, sometimes 799 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:38.519 it's easier to maybe process some of this stuff when 800 00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:41.400 you're uncomfortable by just kind of being like, yeah. 801 00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:42.159 Because how crazy. 802 00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:44.400 Oh No, Humor's a great coping method. I just wish 803 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:45.960 half of Tom's jokes were actually funny. 804 00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:50.400 Well, it's just it's my weird brain, and I just 805 00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.400 it's just I'm honest, I tell I know. 806 00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:55.599 But it's just like every word that pops into that 807 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.519 head maybe maybe formulated into a joke before you send 808 00:39:58.519 --> 00:39:58.840 it out. 809 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:02.920 Maybe this was about yeah, fucking you know, but it is. 810 00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:04.880 It is weird too, Rite and the fact that like 811 00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.800 I never get paranoid like that. It is weird because, 812 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.719 like we've said a lot of shit making fun of 813 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:12.719 like we tried to never make fun of the victims, 814 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.079 but it's happened, like especially with episodes me and Billy 815 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.760 have done just maybe their names or you know. There 816 00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:22.320 it's and you gotta tread carefully because we're a dark 817 00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.159 comedy podcast. We want to try and make light of 818 00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:26.440 these situations. But like I've said, when we talked about 819 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.960 Chris Watts, that was really recent and it was just 820 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.920 it was more disturbing, like where you couldn't really make 821 00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.199 jokes because how recent it was, and it's like you 822 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.559 can make jokes about him and how crazy he was 823 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:39.840 maybe the power of the pussy type of thing. But 824 00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:43.000 the thing is it that case strictly like it was 825 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.840 like it's too close to home, like new like it 826 00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:48.599 just happened, Doc just came out about it. So there 827 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.400 is It gets like that when you think about cases 828 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.320 that relate to where you're from or around you. 829 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.159 So I think I think the instance of this is 830 00:40:56.159 --> 00:41:00.320 like imagine if the Carlamoka, the Barbie and Ken cases, 831 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:02.880 We're still going on because that's the closest to you 832 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.159 what those were still going on, right, But imagine if 833 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.519 you were doing this while that was happening, and it's 834 00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.760 like eventually someone's gonna know somebody who's gonna send them 835 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:15.000 and then it's gonna get back to you. 836 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:16.360 I think that's that's what. 837 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:20.880 You mean, right, Like, yeah, yeah, it is is. I 838 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:22.760 was gonna say, I know it was was scary, but 839 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.199 I did, uh when all him. I did grow up 840 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:27.360 around Calamoka and Papinard, like I was in that same 841 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:29.840 city when I was a kid, So it is it 842 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.639 was creepy to talk about it considered. 843 00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:35.400 But Aaron, like you're saying, you know, you're only two 844 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.840 or three people away from everybody knowing everybody, so it's 845 00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:39.760 possible that somebody hears this and it gets back to 846 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:41.039 one of them and then it comes. 847 00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:41.280 Back to you. 848 00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.719 Yeah, Like I think maybe maybe in the case of 849 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.400 Ireland in general, I don't want to say I don't care, 850 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.239 but like I don't feel as concerned. But you know, 851 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.039 locally here there's a lot of stuff that's been said 852 00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.280 or has gone around about the case of filing the 853 00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:02.199 Sinus that I don't know some of those people are 854 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.079 still around here or I don't know how they feel 855 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:06.559 about it. 856 00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.199 Okay, they're gonna run to their friend, but like, all right, 857 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.000 there's this podcast, okay, and he said some shit, and 858 00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.599 then there's like people knocking at your door screaming in. 859 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.440 They're just gonna they're just gonna be saying, give us 860 00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:20.760 the address of that Tom person. 861 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.599 We're gonna go kick his ass. Come fine, you better 862 00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.079 you beoutter had a spare room if I have to 863 00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:26.559 leave the. 864 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:30.320 Okay. 865 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.719 So in November nineteen ninety five, another woman went missing, 866 00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:37.360 Jojo Dullard. I've heard this pronounced so many different ways, 867 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.000 Jojo Dollard, and no. 868 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:41.599 One wants to call her a Dullard, because you know 869 00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:42.159 what that is. 870 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.719 She She had traveled from kill Kenny to Dublin to 871 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.119 visit friends, and after missing her bus home, she decided 872 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.840 to get a different bus to gil dare Nace to 873 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.559 be specific at around ten to fifty pm and hitch 874 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:01.000 the ride to Moon. Once she arrived, this place is 875 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.559 still around seventy kilometers from her home, she called her friend. 876 00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.719 Here we go again now. She called her friend from 877 00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.800 a payphone in Moon and told her the situation, but 878 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:13.000 then she put down the phone and seemed to walk 879 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.920 away from it, only to return moments later and tell 880 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:21.320 her that someone had stopped and she had a lift home. However, however, 881 00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:24.199 she never arrived home and has never been seen or 882 00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.679 heard from since. Did this mystery person cause her harm? 883 00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:29.840 Who was the person and what was her intentions? A 884 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.960 short time later, a woman similar to JoJo's description was 885 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.440 seen leaning into the back door of a dark colored 886 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.719 Tiola type car. There were further sightings of a woman 887 00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:43.480 similar to her in Castle Darmouth, County kill There, which 888 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.800 is five miles from Moon, at around midnight on the 889 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.440 same evening. The driver or occupants of this Tyola have 890 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.639 never been traced. In twenty twenty one, it was announced 891 00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:56.320 that the truck driver had come forward that said he 892 00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.199 had saw a woman. Now, this is just bizarre to me. 893 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:03.079 He had saw a woman running naked and screaming on 894 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:05.360 the night of the disappearance. He was driving with his 895 00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.119 boss at the time. So apparently he was only young 896 00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.960 and he was like not an intern, but he was 897 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:14.360 like the new guy or whatever, and he was driving 898 00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:15.679 with his boss in the lorry. 899 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:17.440 So his boss saw it too. 900 00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:21.079 Yeah, So apparently his boss got out and attempted to 901 00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.280 run after, like to see what was up, and she 902 00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:28.440 just like bolted. He couldn't catch her, so he got 903 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.159 back in and they called the police and they were told, 904 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:34.360 don't worry about it, we'll send a carrot, which is 905 00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:35.960 like the Irish thing I think at the time is 906 00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.239 very casual, like, ah, look whatever, yeah, don't be worrying 907 00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:38.559 about it. 908 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:43.360 That sounds like a horror movie, Like see a woman 909 00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.679 running through the forest across the street like naked. 910 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.199 It gives me Devil's rejects vibes or stuff like that. 911 00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:52.800 So this is probably the first time now we're going 912 00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.440 to see from this point on where a lot of 913 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.480 this stuff kind of crosses over. So the area that 914 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:02.000 this site apparently took was less than nine kilometers from 915 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:04.599 a site that was searched in the disappearance of Dear 916 00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.559 Joe Jacob, who went missing a couple of years after this. 917 00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:11.719 After this, when they found out about the missing women, 918 00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:13.960 they went to make a statement and it was said 919 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.960 that the woman they saw couldn't have been Jojo as 920 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:20.639 she was seen in Castle Darmott Afterwards, in twenty twenty, 921 00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.639 the case was updated from missing persons to a murder investigation. 922 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:25.559 There have been a number of suspects in the case 923 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:28.920 since it happened. Her family felt a man who gave 924 00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.320 contradicting statements that owned an abandoned farm was the key 925 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.079 to finding her. However, as the land was private, a 926 00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.920 search warrant was never obtained. Fifteen months after the disappearance, 927 00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.880 a taxi driver came forward with information about something he 928 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.119 saw on the night three miles north of Waterford, which 929 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:48.440 was about fifty miles south of where she was last seen. 930 00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.079 He saw a red car with British number plates and 931 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.960 a man urinating beside the car. Suddenly he saw a distressed, 932 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:59.159 barefoot woman run from the rear left hand door. A 933 00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:01.679 second man appear and grabbed her by the hair, bear, 934 00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:03.559 hugged her and dragged her back to the car. 935 00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:06.159 That is like some fucking you're right, like Texas chance 936 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:08.719 and mask your style, like just like fucking leather face 937 00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:11.159 grabbing the chicken, dragging her into the bad Like that's 938 00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:12.000 fucking scared. 939 00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:15.360 I mean that, but that's also kind of hostily. Human trafficking, yes. 940 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:16.400 Very much. 941 00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:22.920 And the thing is we have it here. But human trafficking, 942 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:27.880 especially child trafficking, shit is is very prevalent in Europe. 943 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.079 That's where it takes place because everything is connected. 944 00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:33.239 So you think about it too that way, you're not. 945 00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:35.239 It's not as though it's Canada where it's like, oh, 946 00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:37.199 we're getting the you know, the RCMP on it, or 947 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.280 the States where it's like we're getting jets on it. Man, 948 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:43.119 it's it's like you're talking about a series of countries. 949 00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:45.239 You have to get Interpol involved, right if you're gonna 950 00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:47.559 try and like prosecute stuff. And I would imagine it's probably 951 00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:48.960 the same thing as it is here. If you're not 952 00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:51.840 if you don't come from a place of affluence, they're 953 00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:53.360 not gonna have the money or the influence to make 954 00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:53.760 it happen. 955 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:56.639 You're gonna bring it up and someone's gonna be like, well, sorry. 956 00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.000 Yeah, New York c MP is hiding Robert Picton's rear. 957 00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:01.760 That is crazy. 958 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.320 The RCMP Robert Picton connection, that's pretty fucking that's pretty 959 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:06.000 fucking interesting. 960 00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:07.519 Yeah, we'll have to talk about that. We're gonna do 961 00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:09.679 an episode about that. But Aaron, it's fucking weird, you know, 962 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:12.159 Rob picked it is right, the pig farmer, there's a 963 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:17.039 connection to fucking even Trudeau and politicians with in that 964 00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:20.440 they could been making people go missing and stuff like that. 965 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.880 And it's really strange and the RCNP is trying to 966 00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:25.639 cover it up and get rid of all the files 967 00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.199 right now. So it's fucking weird, strange stuff going on. 968 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:32.360 That might just be the connection with a one mister 969 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:33.480 Trudeau y. 970 00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:41.599 So a criminal gang apparently from the from the traveling community. 971 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:47.159 Oh sure, fucking gypsy caravans were suspected, and one man 972 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:49.920 in his twenties would become a suspect after being convicted 973 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.800 of raping a thirteen year old girl in nineteen ninety seven. 974 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:55.000 He would then go on to be known as one 975 00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:57.039 of the most evil and violent men in Ireland, having 976 00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.360 committed crimes against both traveling and settled people, and was 977 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:03.239 also believed to be living in Dundalk around the time 978 00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:06.320 Kira Breen went missing in nineteen ninety seven. 979 00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.199 So this guy was going around like he was going 980 00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.559 around killing travelers. 981 00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.239 Well, he was going around committing crimes like I don't. 982 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:15.760 Know, like are they trying to fight him every time 983 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:18.559 he tried to fucking pull up here? 984 00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:23.280 And it's funny. I couldn't find this guy's name, but 985 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:26.360 apparently he was living in Dundalk around the time that 986 00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:28.840 a girl who goes missing. A little bit later, Kira 987 00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:32.519 Breen went missing, and at the minute he's serving a 988 00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:35.559 twenty one year sentence for raping a woman in her eighties. 989 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:37.840 Hold fuck fuck, that's. 990 00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:41.639 Like Ramirez, yeah, Ramirez, how old years were? 991 00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.000 Just like all right, today it's a twenty year old. 992 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.199 Tomorrow it's an eighty five year old. It's all good. 993 00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.360 I like whatever, Just insert the insert the Rick James 994 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:50.480 cocaine is a hell of a drug. 995 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.760 Yeah, it's true. I gotta get that out. It's fucking weird. 996 00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.400 Man. So four years later, now this is the part 997 00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.719 where he enters the picture. Four years later, a thirty 998 00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:04.800 five year old father of two, Larry Murphy, was arrested 999 00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:08.880 after he kidnapped a woman in Carlo and repeatedly raped 1000 00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:11.360 and attempted to kill her in the Wicklow Mountains before 1001 00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:14.400 being spotted by two hunters. Larry Murphy would go on 1002 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.800 to be a huge suspect and a part in many 1003 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:23.320 of these cases. Another thing I found out that so 1004 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:29.679 this woman had also frequented a pub very very often, 1005 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:36.760 apparently where convicted murder David Lawler also drank. He was 1006 00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.239 convicted in nineteen ninety five of raping and murdering a 1007 00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:45.199 woman by the name of Marilyn Rinn who right David Lawler, 1008 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:49.679 who was also a convicted rapist and murder who drank 1009 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:53.599 in the same pub all the time as Larry. This woman, 1010 00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:58.559 oh right, as this woman also happened to be a 1011 00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:03.039 close friend and distant cousin of none other than Larry Murphy. 1012 00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:05.320 Do you think it's like a team effert thing, like 1013 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:11.000 a what's this fuck? And Henry Henry Lee Lucas noticed tool. 1014 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:14.320 And this was something that in the last like maybe 1015 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.840 six or eight years, has been looked at more and 1016 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.960 more that maybe it wasn't just a serial killer. Maybe 1017 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:25.599 there was multiple people involved. So there's another guy by 1018 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:29.280 the name of Thomas Dalton, who is another cousin of 1019 00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:34.400 Larry Murphy, who was also arrested and charged for face 1020 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.440 fucking a woman outside of a kill Kenny nightclub in 1021 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:38.280 twenty ten. 1022 00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:42.320 So what so was it assault or was she a 1023 00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:43.440 willing participant in that? 1024 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:46.760 She was like apparently she was like out of her 1025 00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:49.800 mind drunk, and he was like, yeah, I'm gonna fight, 1026 00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.280 so fuck you and you're just gonna Wow. 1027 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:57.960 That's fucking crazy sounds like all right, that's fun. 1028 00:50:58.559 --> 00:50:59.920 Wow, that is fun. 1029 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.480 That's it's just like all right, and everyone's watching and 1030 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.000 fucking guys are clapping because guys are assholes, and well, 1031 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.320 I just reminds me of that eighties like whole like 1032 00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:12.199 animal house, like we're gonna go steal the girl's panties. 1033 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:14.360 That wasn't the eighties, that was meant to be the fifties. 1034 00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:18.440 But yes, like either way, we're gonna go fucking steal 1035 00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:20.440 their panties and sniff them. We're gonna watch them naggy. 1036 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.039 It's like, all right, that's maybe a bad idea. 1037 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:23.719 Oh no, you're talking about Revenge of the Nerds, where 1038 00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:26.039 it's like, yeah, so much everything in this film is 1039 00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:28.039 you getting away with a sexual assault like that? 1040 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.840 It's fucked up? No, but yeah, I mean you're not wrong. 1041 00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:33.920 That whole meathead thing of dudes drunkides walking out of 1042 00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:35.480 the bar and they see somebody getting them, you know, 1043 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.960 a blowjob. They don't know that it's a forceful one, 1044 00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.280 and they're just like, we get him. 1045 00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:42.840 Yeah, that's true. True, Yeah, it's true. 1046 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:46.400 And he I think there was like multiple charges against 1047 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:48.280 him for that and he only got convicted on like 1048 00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:50.840 the final account and he only got twelve months. 1049 00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.159 What the It's just crazy people can get away with that. 1050 00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:56.119 Ship then you have people that just protest and now 1051 00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:58.280 they're trying to fil him for ten years. 1052 00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:00.079 I mean, you got you got the you know, the 1053 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:01.920 justice system that works like that where it's like, yeah, 1054 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:03.920 twelve months and then over here somebody gets caught with 1055 00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:05.440 a bag of weed in the wrong state and they're 1056 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:06.440 doing fucking life. 1057 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.000 It's fucking weird, fucking bizarre. 1058 00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:13.199 Yeah, the states are really fucking bad. We have no 1059 00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:14.519 we have I take that back. 1060 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.079 In the United States, we have the best justice system that. 1061 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:22.800 Money can buy. Yeah, if you got the money, you're 1062 00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:24.840 getting away with it. That's basically what it comes down to. 1063 00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:26.119 It's fun. 1064 00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.280 It's true. It's true. It's very true. 1065 00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:30.320 So she wasn't. 1066 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:33.679 August twenty third, nineteen ninety six, a twenty five year 1067 00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:36.159 old woman by the name of Fiona Pender goes missing 1068 00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:40.039 from her Church Street apartment in Tullamoro, County Athlete. At 1069 00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:42.159 the time she went missing, she was seven months pregnant. 1070 00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:44.639 She lived with her boyfriend at the time, John Thompson, 1071 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.159 having recently moved back from London. At the end of 1072 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:50.400 the previous year. Some say that he was reluctant to 1073 00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:52.400 this plan to move and felt like he let his 1074 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:54.800 family down as he helped to keep their vast farmland. 1075 00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:57.760 John came from lots of money, while Fiona came from 1076 00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:01.039 a more humble background. Her being out shopping with her 1077 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:03.559 mother all day and then getting back to the family 1078 00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:05.400 home to chat with her parents, She got a taxi 1079 00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.119 home with her mother at around seven pm, who made 1080 00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.079 sure that she got inside safe. The following day, her 1081 00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.360 mother called, but the blinds were down and she assumed 1082 00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.199 that she was just resting. Later that evening, her dad 1083 00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:18.360 walked past and the blinds were still down and no 1084 00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:20.519 lights on inside, but he assumed that she was either 1085 00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:24.519 still tired or maybe out with friends. The last person 1086 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:26.639 to have any account of seeing her was her boyfriend 1087 00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:29.639 John at six am on that Friday morning, when he 1088 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.960 was leaving to work on the family farm about eight 1089 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.199 miles away. He told Fiona's parents that he stayed on 1090 00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:39.079 the farm that night and assumed Fiona was in their house. Now, 1091 00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:42.360 this is the part I don't understand. So her partner, 1092 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.400 who she lives with, hadn't heard from her all day, 1093 00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:51.159 she's heavily pregnant. He miraced like for some reason, conveniently 1094 00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.199 decides that every other night he stays at home, he's 1095 00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:59.519 going to stay on the family farm that night. But again, 1096 00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.719 cell phone weren't readily available, so it's not like you 1097 00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:06.599 could just check up on her. However, there were were 1098 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:09.440 reports that there was a huge strain on the relationship, 1099 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.760 from the pregnancy to differing opinions about the farm and 1100 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.639 living situations. There were reports that have been hard shouting 1101 00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.119 at each other on multiple occasions, but this was never 1102 00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:19.719 one hundred percent. 1103 00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:23.639 So you know, was pregnant, Yeah, seven months pregnant when 1104 00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:24.400 she disappeared. 1105 00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:26.400 Yeah, that's fucked up. 1106 00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.639 Man, almost ready to pop too, Like seven months, you 1107 00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:30.400 got two more to go. 1108 00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:35.760 And crazy witnesses came forward with two different sightings. One 1109 00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.519 man said he was leaving again. Now this is fucking like, 1110 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:41.400 I don't understand this. One man said he was leaving 1111 00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:43.920 a pub at two am that night and saw two 1112 00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:48.000 men bundling a bulky item wrapped in carpet into the 1113 00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:49.840 back of a large four x four vehicles. 1114 00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:52.760 Much you were found say, there's not much you wrap 1115 00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.760 in carpet other than a body, so that's true, and 1116 00:54:56.119 --> 00:55:01.119 this kind of ties in with another completely statement that said. 1117 00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:05.480 They saw a four x four driving erradically on a 1118 00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:09.239 back road near the Sleeve Blue Mountains, which is where 1119 00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.159 Larry Murphy committed that crime, which is about twenty miles 1120 00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:16.320 from Tullamore. He saw one person inside the car and 1121 00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:18.079 the only other thing he can remember was there was 1122 00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:21.679 a sticker on the windscreen saying keep her lit. This 1123 00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:25.960 person was never found. In April ninety seven, John Thompson, 1124 00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:29.039 his father, and three sisters were arrested on suspicion of 1125 00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:32.000 her disappearance, but were released after twelve hours of questioning. 1126 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:34.920 They were critical of the GUARDA about this and field 1127 00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:38.039 they were painted as the culprits without any evidence. The 1128 00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:41.039 case spanned as far as America, when a woman accused 1129 00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:44.559 her husband of physical and sexual attacks against her, and 1130 00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:47.480 apparently one night in a rage, she said I killed 1131 00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:49.480 that bitch, Fiona Pender, and you'll be. 1132 00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:52.079 Next, and he was in the States. 1133 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:57.559 She offered the exact locations that he detailed, but it 1134 00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:03.239 yielded little results. Apparently this man's name was John Thompson. 1135 00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:09.760 That's he had moved to the States. That's really weird. 1136 00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:13.840 So this guy in an Irishman moved to the States 1137 00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.360 and then he's dating a chick and he's beating her 1138 00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:18.159 up and being like, you know, I killed that shiit 1139 00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:21.280 in Ireland and it's just like, you know, that's fucked up. Yep, 1140 00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:22.719 and that's crazy. 1141 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:26.360 Never they've done like extensive searches in recent years and 1142 00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:29.679 and didn't find anything. There was also in the Sleeve 1143 00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:33.000 Blue Mountains a couple of years back, there was a 1144 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:37.599 crucifix found. Right that, This is fucking weird. A crucifix 1145 00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:43.559 found and honest, someone had carved Fiona Pender buried here 1146 00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:45.760 and then the a date. 1147 00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:49.280 That's fucking weird. 1148 00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:50.599 What the actual fuck? 1149 00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:55.199 That is creepy? Respect it's a creepy hontage show. 1150 00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:58.480 I'm sure they you know, checked the area and didn't 1151 00:56:58.480 --> 00:56:59.079 find anything. 1152 00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:01.199 Did they did they dig? 1153 00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:06.639 Yeah, like those mountains and a majority of that area 1154 00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.760 has like literally been torn apart time and time again 1155 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:10.400 and just. 1156 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.719 Looking for Do they ever use like sonic technology or 1157 00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:16.159 anything like that, you know, like the things that like 1158 00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:17.920 shoot read the ground. 1159 00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:22.559 Yeah, a lot of what they've done in rac years 1160 00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:26.960 hasn't really been released now that could I feel that 1161 00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:31.000 that means that they're like, yeah, let's just say, you know, 1162 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:33.800 we can't release the information because we didn't do fucking anything. 1163 00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:37.320 That's true. I was gonna I was more on the 1164 00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.440 on the idea that it was an Irish illuminati, that 1165 00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:44.000 it was kidnapping these women for rituals. 1166 00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.400 Of course, that's where your fucking bout mine goes. 1167 00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:51.760 So is it on the still on the conspiracy side 1168 00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:54.000 of it, But unless on the batshit crazy conspiracy side 1169 00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:56.960 of it, is Larry like connected to anyone, Does he 1170 00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:01.199 like have like a distant relative that'sition of power anywhere? 1171 00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:04.280 No, So this is the thing. Before he was caught 1172 00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:09.119 for that rape and attempted murder, he had no previous convictions. 1173 00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:12.760 He wasn't known at all to the police, like he 1174 00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:15.639 was never he wasn't on any file for not even 1175 00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:19.440 a parking ticket. Crazy, and apparently when they when they 1176 00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:21.320 came into his house, like he was married with two 1177 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:25.320 kids when he done that, when they came to his 1178 00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:30.360 house the following day, he opened the front door and 1179 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.519 like they were like, are you Larry Murphy or whatever? 1180 00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:34.960 And he was like yep, And then he just went 1181 00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:37.639 apparently went I don't know why, I don't know and 1182 00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:40.239 then he put his his head in his hands and 1183 00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:43.360 he was like, I don't know why, I just I 1184 00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:46.800 he went to go rob her money first, and he 1185 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.960 was like it just spiraled. One thing led to another 1186 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:51.960 and then I don't know. And then he actually said 1187 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.039 to them, he said, can we go inside and can 1188 00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:56.559 I get my wife and can we tell her? That's 1189 00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:59.880 what They went in with him, and he woke his 1190 00:58:59.880 --> 00:59:01.679 wife up and he was like, yeah, this is I 1191 00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:04.679 raped the girl last night, blah blah blah, and it 1192 00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:08.920 seemed like he was going to kind of like, I 1193 00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:11.639 suppose cooperate with them, And as soon as they got 1194 00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:17.440 to the police station, he's like, yeah, no, I robbed her, 1195 00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:20.239 and yeah, okay, I did rape her the first time, 1196 00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:23.840 but then after that she wanted to make love to me. 1197 00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:29.960 So we got back into the car and she made 1198 00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.360 love to me. And there was actually fear at one 1199 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:38.079 point that a jury might think that it was consensual. 1200 00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:41.880 And now he had apparently her injuries were absolutely horrific, 1201 00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:46.840 like he had orally raped her, vaginally raped her, ainly 1202 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:47.639 raped her. 1203 00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:51.239 It's vaginally a word here is. 1204 00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:54.719 That's our pronunciation? Vaginally is the Oh yeah. 1205 00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:55.920 It's true. I didn't even think about that. 1206 00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:01.360 On this part for example. More like I would say 1207 01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:03.599 to Lamore, right, and any any time I ever listened 1208 01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:06.079 to anyone covered this case, because majority of people who 1209 01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:10.000 covered this aren't from Ireland, they pronounced it to Lamore, 1210 01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:12.000 what happened. 1211 01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:14.840 There's literally there's literally a fucking whiskey that's in every 1212 01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:16.719 bar in the States that's called Dullamore. 1213 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:21.159 Yeah to la More. Yeah, there's there's a lot of 1214 01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:23.480 like pronunciations that I heard of some of this stuff, 1215 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:24.599 And I'm like, Jesus. 1216 01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:27.360 Christ, oh, you should just cheer me butcher everything. I 1217 01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:31.239 bet there's some people in some countries just screaming at me. 1218 01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:33.719 It's the number one negative review that we have besides 1219 01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:41.000 tom as an Ablest. 1220 01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:41.480 I think. Not long after this, another girl went missing. 1221 01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.639 She had went to bed that night, Her mother checked 1222 01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:46.800 on her at two am, and she was missing from 1223 01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:49.400 her room. She was seventeen at the time. It was 1224 01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:52.480 soon discovered that the window opposite the roadway was left 1225 01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.199 open on the latch, which indicated that she snuck out, 1226 01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.400 something her friends would later say that she don't quite 1227 01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.280 often the reason for sneaking out as unknown or who 1228 01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:04.119 she was meeting. Until news came that the local older 1229 01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:06.880 man had been seen talking to Kira on several occasions 1230 01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.360 and even hard asking if he could see her later, 1231 01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:12.880 to which she apparently replied, I'll sneak out when my 1232 01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:17.920 mom goes to bed. Had also said yeah. Apparently he 1233 01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:19.360 was like a groovy creep. 1234 01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:20.960 Creep. 1235 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.559 Kira's mother had also said that she had on several 1236 01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:29.599 occasions gotten rid of him from the front garden trying 1237 01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.079 to chat with her young daughter. The man's name was 1238 01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:32.840 Leam Muddeling. 1239 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:34.440 Did you run out with the room? 1240 01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:36.760 Yeahay? 1241 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:41.760 Or she threw potatoes at him, gone right again? 1242 01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:45.639 Right? This? So this dude Leam Muddlin. They say that 1243 01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:48.119 he was known as the local creep and this was 1244 01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:49.800 just kind of a thing like a lot of the teeners, like, 1245 01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:51.639 you know, he's like the creepy older guy who wants 1246 01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:52.800 to hang out with young people. 1247 01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:54.480 That's how it was back in the day here too. 1248 01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:58.079 It was like molestation and like that was so common 1249 01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:01.000 that it was like, oh, don't stay with Uncle Steve 1250 01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:03.079 for too long by yourself. 1251 01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:08.480 Because this dude was arrested in nineteen ninety nine and 1252 01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:11.360 then again in twenty fifteen, and he died in police 1253 01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:14.800 custody in twenty seventeen, and many believed that he was 1254 01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:18.760 responsible for the murder of Kira breen Strange. 1255 01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:19.599 That is weird. 1256 01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:22.920 So then we'll go really quickly through these one. So 1257 01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:27.880 next is the is the Wexford case. Fiona Sinnot Sunday, 1258 01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:30.920 February eighth, nineteen ninety eight, Fiona was enjoying a drink 1259 01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:34.639 in her local pub, Butlers in Broadway. She called home 1260 01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.039 and asked her brother to join her, which he declined. 1261 01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:40.000 She seemed adamant that he joined her, but after he 1262 01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:42.519 mentioned working early the next morning, she didn't put up 1263 01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:46.280 an argument. Sean Carol, her ex boyfriend and father to 1264 01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:50.119 her eleven month old daughter, was also drinking and smoking 1265 01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.559 in the pub, but he was alone that night. When 1266 01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:56.199 she left, she did so with him, and they walked 1267 01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:58.159 back to her house together, and he says that he 1268 01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:01.079 slept on the couch and she slept in her room upstairs. 1269 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:04.519 The following morning, Fiona told him that she would attend 1270 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.000 the doctor for a pain in her arm, and he 1271 01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.519 gave her five pounds to get a tax either. He 1272 01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:11.639 was then collected by his mother and went back to 1273 01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:14.159 the family home, where their daughter had stayed. The night before. 1274 01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:17.960 The police noted that the house she rented was spotlessly 1275 01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:20.559 clean and missing some key items that she would have had. 1276 01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:23.800 Sometime after this, a local farmer noted that he found 1277 01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:26.639 some black bags of rubbish on his land that indeed 1278 01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:30.159 contained items with Fiona's name on them. Thinking this was 1279 01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:32.800 a case of illegal dumping, he burned the items and 1280 01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:35.119 only came forward when he heard the news of the 1281 01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:36.119 missing person's case. 1282 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:39.159 Didn't mean to do with this, I'm just gonna fucking 1283 01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:39.639 burn it. 1284 01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:43.800 This led Guardy to believe that someone was attempting to 1285 01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:45.800 throw him off the trail and make it seem that 1286 01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:49.039 if she had maybe ran away. There have been several 1287 01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:51.599 arrest made in the years following her disappearance, and there 1288 01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:54.599 are many theories about people close to her that may 1289 01:03:54.679 --> 01:04:00.159 know what happened that night. Jesus again, it's a it's 1290 01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:02.000 another one of those cases. I think she's kind of 1291 01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:05.079 been excluded from the triangle they reckon. I think that 1292 01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:08.400 her ex boyfriend was probably the one to fucking kill 1293 01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:09.639 her and then his family. 1294 01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:12.679 It is weird, this is all around the same place, 1295 01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:18.039 but like realistically it could be a couple of different people, 1296 01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:21.360 boyfriends or something like that. But maybe you know, Larry 1297 01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:25.239 Murphy or one of these other dudes like the Thompson 1298 01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.239 guy whatever, maybe they killed like two or three of them, 1299 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.079 and then maybe two or three that we think is 1300 01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:34.599 part of the same umbrella of killings or well vanishings 1301 01:04:34.639 --> 01:04:35.119 at least. 1302 01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:38.239 Well, there's always the possibility that while things like that 1303 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:41.239 are going on, someone's gonna take advantage of the chaos 1304 01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:43.320 and be like, well, I'm gonna settle a score, I'm 1305 01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.119 gonna do something, and it's gonna get lumped in with this, 1306 01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:45.639 and then. 1307 01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:48.480 You know, look what's happening in the Ukraine right now. 1308 01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:50.639 They gave them guns and guys went down the street 1309 01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:54.599 and started shooting their fucking neighbor. Like this guy he 1310 01:04:55.440 --> 01:04:57.039 fucked my wife one time, so I went over I 1311 01:04:57.159 --> 01:04:57.679 shot up. 1312 01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:00.000 Because he is a less contemporar. 1313 01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.679 Example, a lot of scores were settled on nine to 1314 01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:05.760 eleven because all of the emergency services were occupied, so 1315 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:09.920 the documented like a bunch of gang violence during September eleven. 1316 01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:12.000 I never thought about that, but that'd be true, like 1317 01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:13.960 the purge, Like I was just like, all right, I'm 1318 01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.039 gonna go get my fucking shotgun, and this guy down 1319 01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:18.960 the block that pissed on my lawn One time he 1320 01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:20.800 made his dog shit on my lawn and I shot him, 1321 01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:22.840 So it's like, shit, that's fucking nuts. I didn't think 1322 01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:23.159 about that. 1323 01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:30.239 The final disappearance then in this and this is another 1324 01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:34.320 one that Larry Murphy is apparently connected to. So July 1325 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:37.880 twenty eighth, nineteen ninety eight, dear jo Jacob went missing. 1326 01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:41.280 Josh yards from her front door. She had been spotted 1327 01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:43.719 by over six different people on the streets she lived on, 1328 01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:46.840 and one even saw her in her driveway. However, she 1329 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.480 never made it home. What happened? Where did she go? 1330 01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:53.280 Why she followed? A prisoner who was housed with Larry 1331 01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:56.679 Murphy came forward and said that Larry confessed to killing her, 1332 01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:00.199 and searches were conducted, but with no progress. It is 1333 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:03.000 also believed that maybe he had work in the area 1334 01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.039 around the time that she went missing. He was a 1335 01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:10.000 qualified carpenter, so apparently he traveled around a lot. Another man, 1336 01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:15.280 Rory O'Connor, a convicted double rapist and murder, was interviewed 1337 01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:19.960 about his friendship was interviewed about his friendship with Larry Murphy, 1338 01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:23.039 refused to give much away. They had been living together 1339 01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:25.199 in Amsterdam for some time and were said to keep 1340 01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:28.920 to themselves, owning a motorbike together that they used to 1341 01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:35.320 disappear for transport from time to time. So this thing 1342 01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:40.920 she spotted like walking in her front door, apparently near 1343 01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:41.679 her front. 1344 01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.719 Door fote the black and white edmage of her. 1345 01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:50.559 So there's another little bit here that connects Larry Murphy 1346 01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:54.239 to us as well. Her grandmother, I think it was, 1347 01:06:54.360 --> 01:07:00.599 had a shop somewhere and when she died and they 1348 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:04.840 went through her stuff, they found paperwork with Larry Murphy's 1349 01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:06.440 name and phone number on us. 1350 01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:07.039 Oh shit. 1351 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:10.519 So apparently it turns out that he had done some 1352 01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:14.000 carpentry work for her at one point. But again it 1353 01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:17.199 just seems like awful. Coincidentally, he seems to appear in 1354 01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:18.280 a lot of these things. 1355 01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:20.920 Yeah, he really does seem to just pop up whenever 1356 01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:22.920 something crazy is going on. And like you were saying, 1357 01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:24.679 it is a small area, but it's probably not that 1358 01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:25.800 small that you know. 1359 01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:28.039 He just happened to connect all of these. 1360 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:35.119 In twenty eighteen, a woman by the name of Justine 1361 01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:40.840 Valdez was kidnapped by forty year old Mark Hennessy. He's 1362 01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:43.480 now being investigated to see if he had any involvement 1363 01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:46.760 with the Triangle disappearances. He was shot dead by police 1364 01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:49.920 and Valdez's body was found dumped in an old mine. 1365 01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:53.760 So he's only in the last like three or four 1366 01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:55.639 years he's going to of been pulled into it the 1367 01:07:55.719 --> 01:07:59.559 sea does he have any connection? Because again, another guy 1368 01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:03.559 who had no previous convictions, no parking tickets, no speeding tickets, nothing, 1369 01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:07.679 and then all of a sudden just decides to abduct 1370 01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:10.800 and murder somebody, trod them in an abandoned mine and 1371 01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:12.320 then getting a shootout with police. 1372 01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:14.840 You're got a shootout with the police too. 1373 01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:17.079 Yeah, they shot him dead, So. 1374 01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:19.600 Why the fuck? It's just like if you have no 1375 01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:22.119 prior well at least they don't know at least that 1376 01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.760 you have no prior convictions, and you don't seem to 1377 01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:27.279 have a life of crime or stuff like that, and 1378 01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:31.319 then all of a sudden you mostly maybe killed this chick. 1379 01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:33.239 But the thing is, why did he shoot at Like 1380 01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:35.720 why was her a shootout? If he was innocent? 1381 01:08:37.159 --> 01:08:41.199 And I think the FBI in the last couple of 1382 01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:43.399 years had been kind of pulled in to look at this, 1383 01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.079 and they were the ones that suggested maybe you should 1384 01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:50.760 actually start to entertain the idea that maybe these guys 1385 01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:53.920 weren't completely innocent and all of a sudden just decided 1386 01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:58.079 randomly to go on like brutally rape and abduct and 1387 01:08:58.159 --> 01:08:58.760 murder women. 1388 01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:01.760 Like has that happened? This guy's all possessed. Maybe there's 1389 01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:05.119 a fucking demon in the in the triangle, because like, 1390 01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:07.039 how like why are all these if it is say 1391 01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:11.319 different people, and you know, I not a small area, 1392 01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:13.840 but not a large area. And then this and then 1393 01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:16.319 you know, this guy fucking murders a woman. Those are 1394 01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:18.439 in a fucking mind and then shoots out the police, 1395 01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:21.119 and then you got Larry Murphy's weird ass, the Boogeyman 1396 01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:23.560 of Ireland. And then uh, you know, it's just it 1397 01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:27.399 is weird. If it is different people, it is strange. 1398 01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:32.359 You're the one that was found in the field. Was 1399 01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:34.439 it didn't one of the bodies they said was found 1400 01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:36.199 in the field. Wasn't that the one who the farmer 1401 01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:43.840 found her her clothes or whatever? I had the tab 1402 01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:44.880 pulled up and it's gone now. 1403 01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:49.479 And I know there's another guy in recent years as well, 1404 01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:52.399 has been pulled into this whole thing. Guy been Namma 1405 01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:57.079 John Creer. He was suspected as being involved, potentially after 1406 01:09:57.159 --> 01:09:59.319 he murdered or after it was found out that he 1407 01:09:59.399 --> 01:10:03.199 murdered a woman called Phyllis Murphy. He murdered her in 1408 01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:07.239 nineteen seventy nine and after he'd given an alibi, he 1409 01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:09.520 was given an alibi by a work friend. He was 1410 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:13.960 cleared for nearly twenty years before information was given anonymously 1411 01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.439 and DNA testing proved that he was the killer. He 1412 01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:20.319 denied even knowing her, even though she had baby sat 1413 01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:22.039 his children on many occasions. 1414 01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:22.560 Wow. 1415 01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:26.520 The Wicklow area where she was found was also close 1416 01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:29.079 to the Sleeve Boom Mountains, which Larry Murphy was known 1417 01:10:29.119 --> 01:10:29.960 to have prowled. 1418 01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:33.479 This guy almost sounds like there's a roving gang of 1419 01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.520 rapists that are working like together or something like that. 1420 01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:39.159 I'll get off in the same fashion. That's fucking dear. 1421 01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:42.359 I think the reason as well, and I do believe 1422 01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:45.760 that Larry Murphy is probably connected to probably four of 1423 01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:50.000 those cases. The reason being is he I mean, he 1424 01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:53.920 has what two cousins that have also been convicted of 1425 01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:57.279 like similar things. He has a best friend who he 1426 01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:01.399 moved to Amsterdam with, who's a convicted able rapist and murderer. 1427 01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:05.279 He seems to always like kind of he was living 1428 01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:07.399 in Spain for a time and I think he was 1429 01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:11.399 living with some other like ship bag rapist dude, and 1430 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:14.520 apparently right now he's working as a carpenter in London. 1431 01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.680 That's fucking weird. And it's just like they like it 1432 01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:19.960 was before really the internet was popping off and shit, 1433 01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:22.600 like is there like a meeting place. It's just they 1434 01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:25.359 meet beside a playground and they're like, all right, this 1435 01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.560 is and they give each other looks like they have 1436 01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:30.600 like a sign, like a fucking hand sign or a 1437 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:33.600 face look, and then they're all hanging out and it's weird. 1438 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:36.720 That's what I don't understand. How to fuck Like, how 1439 01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:39.760 was he organizing? Like he so he was in prison 1440 01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:40.119 with this. 1441 01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:42.239 Dude, Well that's how because that's it's in the States 1442 01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:45.720 is prison. People meet in prison and then they're like just. 1443 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:46.000 Go for there. 1444 01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:50.800 The guy gets out and moves town stream and then 1445 01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:53.479 two and a half years later, Larry Murphy gets out 1446 01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:55.920 in the first place, he goes as Amstram And I'm 1447 01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:58.800 trying to think of like how to fuck right, say it? 1448 01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:01.800 He walks out of prison, what's your first move to 1449 01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:04.960 even get in contact with like yeah, I know, well, like. 1450 01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:06.840 They were probably sending letters back and forth. 1451 01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:09.000 They were probably still they stayed in touch when he 1452 01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:11.479 was out, and it very well might have been like, hey, 1453 01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:12.640 I got this spot I'm setting up. 1454 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:14.199 You're gonna need somewhere to go, just come here. 1455 01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:17.279 Yeah, it's fucking it is weird. And the fact that 1456 01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:22.800 his family that he had family that like also had 1457 01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:26.359 obviously sick tendencies, you know what I mean, and like 1458 01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:29.800 it's fucking really weird. Like the fact that you know, 1459 01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:31.920 it's it's pretty rare of a family. It's not that 1460 01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:34.119 rare to have a crazy family member, but then to 1461 01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:37.560 have like two or three people that are like in 1462 01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:39.520 your family that are connected to some weird shit or 1463 01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:42.479 rape or something that it's fucking weird. It's like we're 1464 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:44.399 all of them raped and then it's just like, well, 1465 01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:45.960 now we got to take it out on somebody else, 1466 01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:48.760 or they were touched or molested or that does happen. 1467 01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:52.359 And again, like where Deirja Jacob, who was like the 1468 01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:56.439 last woman who disappeared, who's like seriously considered as being 1469 01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:58.920 involved in this Spanish and triangle, because there is there 1470 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:02.079 is actually a lot more just appearances that are may 1471 01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:03.239 have loose links. 1472 01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:04.840 That I heard about one in twenty twelve. 1473 01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:09.520 Yeah, and there's ones even more recent than that. That's crazy. 1474 01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:13.479 But this, dear Ja Jacob one was one of the last, 1475 01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:17.800 like serious serious ones that were considered. I mean. The 1476 01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:22.800 the area that they believe Hard to have went missing 1477 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:27.279 or potentially been killed in is fifteen kilometers away from 1478 01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:29.880 a place called Baldon Glass, which is where Larry Murphy 1479 01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:30.439 grew up. 1480 01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:35.319 It does sound like this guy is the corporate like 1481 01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:38.399 it does very much sound like this is the it's 1482 01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:41.000 like the serial killer that they like never caught, you. 1483 01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:41.319 Know what I mean. 1484 01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:45.479 Which is also not far from Moon which is where 1485 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:49.520 Jojo Dullard was last seen at that phone box. Oh okay, 1486 01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:54.560 which is strange. And they have information apparently that leads 1487 01:13:54.560 --> 01:14:00.600 them to believe that Larry Murphy was traveling through that 1488 01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:04.039 area on that night. He apparently was working on some 1489 01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:08.000 building site that was like very close to that area. Again, 1490 01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:12.279 just all seems a little bit too coincidental that he 1491 01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:13.920 seems to be around a memory Anton. 1492 01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:16.439 Coincidences don't exist, Okay. 1493 01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:18.399 No, Tom, coincidences very much do exist. 1494 01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:23.720 You everything happens, you're fucking raising. Okay, Yes, everything happens 1495 01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:28.319 for a reason. Everything is connected, everything, everything is connected. Okay, okay, 1496 01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:33.600 get it, Okay, probably murdered, fucking because he could have 1497 01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:37.039 maybe murdered and killed like it. If you're good, you're good, 1498 01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:39.119 like if you're like maybe he's just like in the 1499 01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:42.159 he knows that the cops are useless. But the thing 1500 01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:46.119 is that he just has a method that not many 1501 01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:48.800 serial killers have is perfected where he can kind of go. 1502 01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:51.199 But who I who knows though, because how is he 1503 01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:53.439 not in jail? Like it's just like he seems like 1504 01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:55.239 the prime suspect. 1505 01:14:55.399 --> 01:14:57.720 I know, right and like he's in London, I mean, 1506 01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:02.720 and right now. They started think a while back called 1507 01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:05.760 Operation Trace, which was they've pulled like six of I 1508 01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:09.880 suppose the best detectives and different things from around the 1509 01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:14.680 country together to look at these cases collectively. And as 1510 01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:19.720 a result of that then they really consider him probably 1511 01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:24.000 the number one suspect in Annie McCarrick's disappearance, Jojo Dollard 1512 01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:28.000 and Deardred Jacob and at the minute, I think the 1513 01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:31.239 Director of Public Prosecutions, which would be like for you 1514 01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:35.039 guys to be like the DA or whatever they're preparing 1515 01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:38.880 a file right now to potentially put a case against 1516 01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:41.960 him for Dear Jacob's murder and have him extradited from 1517 01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:45.239 the UK. Oh nohit okay, and he's gonna go somewhere else. 1518 01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:47.800 No, if they have the extra item and they get 1519 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:49.880 them pulled back, I mean I would imagine what is 1520 01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:51.880 like bounty hunting out where you guys are? 1521 01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:52.479 Is that a thing? 1522 01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:54.279 Yeah? 1523 01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:56.760 It is, but like we don't really ever hear about it. 1524 01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:00.359 I could see the Irish what's the bad hunter in 1525 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:01.640 the States? 1526 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:03.239 Stupid fuck the bounty hunter. 1527 01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:05.520 Dog Dog's a fucking piece of ship. 1528 01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:08.000 Like that guy is such a calm show man. 1529 01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:10.920 It's so stupid. But that's he's not even he is. 1530 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:11.720 He's a character. 1531 01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:14.119 He's not like a big, big bounty hunter like I 1532 01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:15.520 guess he is, but who cares. 1533 01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:19.199 He's actually like do you remember that Gabby petito O 1534 01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:19.960 case and stuff. 1535 01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:21.760 Yeah, when he said he was gonna go look for 1536 01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:22.680 or whatever like. 1537 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:25.199 And and he went out there and like you know, 1538 01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:28.720 whatever they found and then he turns and goes, no, no, no, 1539 01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:31.640 that's not the case. We have this other suspect and 1540 01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:33.840 they're completely wrong, and we're going to give her information 1541 01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:35.680 to the FBI and this and that, and it's like 1542 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:38.600 you fucking go back. You've become irrelevant now and you 1543 01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:41.800 have no TV so you've literally just decided to get 1544 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:44.319 in the middle of this case to be like, hey, 1545 01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:46.279 anyone want to give me a TV show? 1546 01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:48.239 That's exactly what it was. Yeah, it was him grasping 1547 01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:49.920 at straw. It's been like, please look at me again. 1548 01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:52.680 It's like everyone's tired of you. You're you were an 1549 01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:53.880 early two thousands thing. 1550 01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:56.960 Just go away, and like, do you remember he was 1551 01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:00.720 with that uh, that wife he had, oh god, that 1552 01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:04.039 like huge, big titted blonde woman. Yes, and she ended 1553 01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:07.000 up unfortunately she got cancer or whatever and died and 1554 01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:08.760 he was like all distraught and he done like these 1555 01:17:08.760 --> 01:17:11.199 interviews with like I don't know, fucking Oprah, doctor Filler 1556 01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:12.399 or some shit, and he was like, oh, I'm never 1557 01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:15.319 gonna get over this. And literally, like six months later 1558 01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:18.319 he was marrying one of her best friends, who literally 1559 01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:20.359 looks exactly like her. 1560 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:23.920 The dude is not exactly the picture of mental stability. 1561 01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:27.680 So no, like fucking scumbags as well. 1562 01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:30.520 Everybody in his family looks like they're on meth, like 1563 01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:32.159 and I know that was Dog's thing before is that 1564 01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:34.720 he was a meth head, but like they really do 1565 01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:38.720 all look like a bunch of squeakers because he he 1566 01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:40.439 had that whole big thing where he went down to 1567 01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:43.640 Mexico and like pulled back some rapists or something for Mexico, 1568 01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:47.279 which actually almost caused an international affair with Mexico. Like 1569 01:17:47.319 --> 01:17:50.600 it was like the Mexican government like contacted the US 1570 01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:53.159 government was like, what the fuck do you think you're doing, 1571 01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:56.239 Like because the person he went after like apparently had 1572 01:17:56.279 --> 01:17:59.760 really heavy cartel ties and stuff too, So it's like Dog. 1573 01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:01.840 Probably should have ended up in a barrel on fire. 1574 01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:06.119 I read his I read his autobiography, and apparently after 1575 01:18:06.199 --> 01:18:08.960 that they like had this whole big core case that 1576 01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:10.720 they tried to keep on the quiet. Apparently he nearly 1577 01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:13.079 went to jail forever because of that. 1578 01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:15.119 Yeah, I think he went to prison in Mexico. 1579 01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:16.760 At one point in time, Mexico was like, you're sending 1580 01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:19.199 him down here for extradition because we want his ass. 1581 01:18:20.279 --> 01:18:23.359 Yeah, so Ireland doesn't have Bog the bounty hunter, and 1582 01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:24.479 he's a short. 1583 01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:28.800 Bogun that fucking pun hang your head in shame. 1584 01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:32.840 I'm here to fucking fight our where these circles are. 1585 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:36.560 He wasn't there for any of that conversation. He was 1586 01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:37.840 just trying to think of something fun. 1587 01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:41.279 I had it at the very beginning, and I was like, 1588 01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:43.000 I'm gonna let them talk about dog for a. 1589 01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:47.680 Bit before this episode. Tom, I didn't. I didn't, I know, 1590 01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:48.880 so I said, at least you didn't. 1591 01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:52.600 Yeah, I've been doing. 1592 01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:53.680 The last three episodes we recorded together. Tom's like, so 1593 01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:56.079 I took like a point five of mushrooms. I was like, 1594 01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:57.119 fucking asshole. 1595 01:18:58.439 --> 01:18:59.119 It's fun, though. 1596 01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:03.520 So what do we think then, just from here and 1597 01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:05.880 what we've heard today, what would you say is the 1598 01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:07.319 most valuable. 1599 01:19:07.159 --> 01:19:11.119 Serial killer which brings us in the next episode. I 1600 01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:14.439 say a serial killer because there's nothing too mysterious where 1601 01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:18.399 it's like it's it's a mystery, yes, but it's most 1602 01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:19.520 likely a physical person. 1603 01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:22.760 Well, I don't think it's a fucking you know, it's 1604 01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:25.520 a trickster god going around snatching up people. 1605 01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:28.760 I honestly think that. I mean, obviously, Larry Bishop is 1606 01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:30.800 is most likely Larry Murphy. 1607 01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:35.439 Larry Murphy is is most likely number one suspect, obviously, 1608 01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:37.760 but I think there might be something to the whole 1609 01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:42.199 like group effort going on here, like a loose connection 1610 01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:45.199 of convicted rapist who met each other through prison or 1611 01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:46.560 through other means or whatever. 1612 01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:49.239 And maybe if they're not. 1613 01:19:49.199 --> 01:19:51.880 All connected, maybe they're helping to cover up for each 1614 01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:53.600 other or something like that. 1615 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:56.760 Like you said about like you know, maybe there was 1616 01:19:56.880 --> 01:19:59.479 two people that took advantage of the situation. Larry Murphy 1617 01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:03.279 was maybe like four of the victims, and then you know, 1618 01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:06.600 two other guys were like taking advantage of it. Or 1619 01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:09.479 it's just like there is a lot of times where 1620 01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:12.840 other victims will be blamed on a serial killer that 1621 01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.920 got caught that's like I killed like forty people and yeah, 1622 01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:18.479 it's maybe like ten, like and then they're like, oh, 1623 01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:20.359 well he probably killed her and he's like, yeah, yeah, 1624 01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:21.640 I killed her, And then you know. 1625 01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:23.119 Yeah, people will cop the bodies. 1626 01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:25.079 I mean, if if you've reached a point where you're like, oh, 1627 01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:27.359 there's no way that I'm gonna you know, either knock 1628 01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:30.439 at the death penalty where I'm not gonna ever see 1629 01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:37.760 you know, a fucking see the later day. 1630 01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:40.399 Again, I had to think for a second. 1631 01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:42.079 Then they're gonna be like, yeah, I killed them, I 1632 01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:44.079 killed fourteen more people, I killed this, I killed that 1633 01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:46.439 and you know, for for strawberry milkshakes, I'll show you 1634 01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:48.000 where the bodies are and then they just take them 1635 01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:49.880 on wild goose chases, like. 1636 01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:51.960 Like Clifford Olson. Man. Clifford Olsen did that. He's like, 1637 01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:55.319 here if you the cops in Canada paid Clifford Olson. 1638 01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:57.439 Yeah, that was crazy. 1639 01:20:57.800 --> 01:20:59.479 He would just be like, this is where the body is, 1640 01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:00.960 and they would take him out and he'd have a 1641 01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:02.720 grand old time and I was able to give money 1642 01:21:02.720 --> 01:21:03.239 to his family. 1643 01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:05.760 It's fun. 1644 01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:10.199 And with Larry as well. He when he got convicted 1645 01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:13.439 of that fucking rape and attempted murder, he was sentenced 1646 01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:16.199 to fifteen years. I think no, sorry, he was sentenced. 1647 01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:18.119 I want to say he was sentenced to twenty three years, 1648 01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:22.399 and then that was reduced to fifteen for some bullshit reason, 1649 01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:25.399 and then he got out after ten for good behavior. 1650 01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:29.199 And that was in the year two thousand, right that 1651 01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:33.760 he was convicted and whatever, And that was before there 1652 01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:36.000 was something passed in two thousand and one in Ireland. 1653 01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:41.760 I can't remember exactly what the law itself was, but 1654 01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:44.760 basically he didn't when he got out of prison, he 1655 01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:47.640 didn't need to be like registered anywhere or like followed 1656 01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:49.520 or they didn't need to see where he was going 1657 01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:50.479 or anything like that. 1658 01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:50.960 That's weird. 1659 01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:52.680 So that's why he's been allut because a lot of 1660 01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:54.960 people wonder, like, how does his motherfucker travel all over 1661 01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:59.600 Europe and just do whatever? Because legally speaking, they don't 1662 01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:03.560 have need grounds to like stop him once. Yeah, he 1663 01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:04.439 could just do whatever. 1664 01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:07.800 It's weird. Your justice system sounds just as bad as ours. 1665 01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:12.800 It's fucking it's fucking bizarre. I actually seen him. You 1666 01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:16.000 guys mentioned about, like, you know, people claiming things just 1667 01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:18.479 to get stuff or whatever. I can't remember the name 1668 01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:20.079 of the case, but I was watching something only like 1669 01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:22.760 a week ago where they had this guy pulled in 1670 01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:25.960 for some some sort of disappearance and he he basically 1671 01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:29.359 just kept them giving them like drip feeding them, like 1672 01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:31.800 false information. He would be like, right, where's my coke, 1673 01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:35.920 where's my McDonald's. Yeah, they would like bring him ship, 1674 01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:37.600 and he'd be like, I need a cigarette so I 1675 01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:40.039 can think. And like he'd done this for like hours 1676 01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:42.520 on end, and it turns out that he literally had 1677 01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:43.439 not to do it whatever. 1678 01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:45.760 He just wanted to get free ship from the cops. 1679 01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:48.600 Yeah, he was just as smart. He was in there 1680 01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:50.000 like he was in there for something else and he 1681 01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:52.119 I think he told somebody in the jay like, oh, 1682 01:22:52.119 --> 01:22:52.800 I know what happened. 1683 01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:56.399 That's how it's been. It's being sneaky. 1684 01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:56.880 Wow. 1685 01:22:56.920 --> 01:22:59.960 So it's a strange case, that's for sure. Like it's 1686 01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:03.720 it's it will be you know, good as I have 1687 01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:06.279 a little serious to do because next I, like I said, 1688 01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:09.520 I want to getting into the vanishing triangle. It's people missing, 1689 01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:11.359 it might be kenexed to a serial killer. I would 1690 01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:13.840 love to, you know, talk about maybe a bunch of 1691 01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:17.199 different Irish serial killers and see like because you don't 1692 01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:19.760 really hear about it too often. Obviously, you have more 1693 01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:22.560 or less the States with the you know it just 1694 01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:25.319 you know, the the cases that they have and how 1695 01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:28.760 glorified a lot of serial killers can be in the States. 1696 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:31.720 It happens slightly in Canada, but it's nothing like the 1697 01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:34.920 United States when it comes to the sensationalism of serial killers. 1698 01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:36.800 And I don't hear I hear some about you know, 1699 01:23:37.039 --> 01:23:39.720 fucking British people killing fucking people, but I don't hear 1700 01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:41.439 much about the Irish. 1701 01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:45.359 Yeah, we should probably maybe broadened that a little bit 1702 01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:47.840 and not just serial killers and maybe just martyrs in 1703 01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:50.920 Ireland because there's there is some cases of serial killers, 1704 01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:53.680 but there's a lot of like crazy one off martyrs 1705 01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:54.239 as well. 1706 01:23:54.119 --> 01:23:55.399 That or just yeah we can do that. 1707 01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:59.439 There's there's a there's a pair of sisters called Linda 1708 01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:04.479 and Shy Mohall that were branded as the Scissor Sisters. 1709 01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:07.000 I feel like I remember that. Did they did they 1710 01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:08.640 bounce their legs together? Like? Did they? 1711 01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:09.279 Like? 1712 01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:14.239 They did not? They killed and dismembered their mother's boyfriends. 1713 01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:15.960 With scissors. 1714 01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:21.000 He was killed with a Stanley blade. He was smashed 1715 01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:24.079 in pieces of a hammer, His head and penis were 1716 01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:26.840 sliced off and the rest of his corpse was dismembered 1717 01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:30.960 and dumped in the Royal Canal in Dublin. Spoiled pieces 1718 01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:34.920 of his legs were spotted floating past the biggest stadium 1719 01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:39.199 in Ireland, crow Park, and came out afterwards. They were 1720 01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:41.119 like chopping them up in the bats. 1721 01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:41.079 Of And. 1722 01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:45.159 How old are these these chicks? 1723 01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:49.760 I'm not sure? But if you look up Scissors Sister 1724 01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:54.720 a case on Google for anybody who's listening, and just 1725 01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:59.039 click on the images, you'll see these ugly motherfuckers. They 1726 01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:00.680 look like they're going through sex change. 1727 01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:02.000 Okay, I'll bring it up. 1728 01:25:02.760 --> 01:25:04.720 I'm gonna look up Scissor Sisters and it's just gonna 1729 01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:05.720 take me straight to porn. 1730 01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:09.680 That is weird, and like I want to get into 1731 01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:12.399 a bunch of this band got pulled up. 1732 01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:19.439 Yeah sisters, Yeah, of course, holy shit. 1733 01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:24.680 You know if if if nobody looks irish, these people 1734 01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:28.159 definitely look irish. These chicks look like they're irish. 1735 01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:31.279 Like, I'm almost gonna click images, but then I'm worried 1736 01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:32.880 that when I do that, I'm gonna get all bunch 1737 01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:34.159 of crime scene photos be. 1738 01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:40.319 Like, oh God, Yeah, that's fucking crazy. They look I'm 1739 01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:43.119 not gonna say it, but yeah, weird, Go for it, 1740 01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:46.359 Go for it. Anton's not gonna like this. They kind 1741 01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:50.199 of look like trands. She looks a little manly, a 1742 01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:51.640 little butch, both of them a little. 1743 01:25:53.319 --> 01:25:55.319 And I don't even mean that as like a jokey slight, 1744 01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:59.119 but I'm like, yeah, they look. 1745 01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:02.039 Scary looking though, like they look like they killed somebody, 1746 01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:03.760 like the gaunt eyes, Like. 1747 01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:07.399 Do you know what's what's mad about that? I would 1748 01:26:07.399 --> 01:26:10.039 have said at one point in the country here like 1749 01:26:10.119 --> 01:26:13.840 that would have been considered like you're you're kind of 1750 01:26:13.880 --> 01:26:18.039 like typical. I don't want to say a woman, but 1751 01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:22.239 like I suppose like you're common, like kind of trailer trashy. 1752 01:26:22.439 --> 01:26:23.359 That's what I was gonna say. 1753 01:26:23.479 --> 01:26:26.079 It looks like, you know, I feel like the especially 1754 01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:29.720 the blonder one, she looks kind of like an Irish 1755 01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:32.560 gypsy that you could see her like with her caravan 1756 01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:36.119 and hanging out and sucking Brad Pitt's dick. 1757 01:26:37.960 --> 01:26:39.720 Yeah, but there's a there's a like, there's a shit 1758 01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:42.039 a lit of crazy cases like that here. 1759 01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:47.600 Yeah. I think Charlie is freaking out. Uh, it's fucking 1760 01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:49.039 weird and I want to get We'll get into that 1761 01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:51.840 next time. We'll talk about different serial killers, like I'll 1762 01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:54.479 maybe get some serial killers and you can get some murders. 1763 01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:56.600 We'll kind of mash it up a little bit, and 1764 01:26:57.319 --> 01:27:00.439 you know, because of how close it is to you, obviously, 1765 01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:02.279 I try to hold back a little bit, a little 1766 01:27:02.279 --> 01:27:04.840 bit of the jokes, but I think it's gonna be 1767 01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:08.760 I'm gonna find it interesting to dive into some of 1768 01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:12.119 the true crime, especially crazy murder cases of Ireland. 1769 01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:14.239 Do you know what I was saying? If I do 1770 01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:16.920 die as a result of this, are gonna miss him? 1771 01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:18.399 At least you'll have a cool shel. 1772 01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:20.319 You'll be fine. 1773 01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:22.640 You'll be fine, and then somehow we're both gonna end 1774 01:27:22.680 --> 01:27:25.319 up murdered because they're gonna, you know, tap people that 1775 01:27:25.359 --> 01:27:26.159 they have over here. 1776 01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:29.439 Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna get murdered by a short ginger 1777 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:31.079 man in a couple of months. 1778 01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:36.279 Oh my god, Potato, that's. 1779 01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:37.520 A fucking antist joke question. 1780 01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:40.159 Right, because every murder that happens in Canada only happens 1781 01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:41.640 with a maple leaf or a hockey stick. 1782 01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:42.399 So it's fine, I. 1783 01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:45.319 Get drowned in maple syrup. You get the people used 1784 01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:48.359 to think Jeffrey Dahmer got a stick up broom shoved 1785 01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:50.159 up his ass. You're over here, you get a hockey 1786 01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:51.880 stick just deep inside your ainus. 1787 01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:54.079 No, they just they just stuff a whole thing of 1788 01:27:54.119 --> 01:27:56.479 maple leaves down your throat and then pour molson down 1789 01:27:56.479 --> 01:27:58.359 it until you eventually die. 1790 01:27:59.560 --> 01:28:02.439 Very very quickly. Before we wrap this end of the show, 1791 01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:05.279 I just want to ask about you guys. Obviously don't 1792 01:28:05.319 --> 01:28:07.960 have to get like super into a pot. From both 1793 01:28:08.039 --> 01:28:12.560 your opinions, what's like the I suppose missing person or 1794 01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:15.640 disappearance or vanishing case that like really really sticks every 1795 01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:18.159 time someone mentioned something like that, is there one that 1796 01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:20.279 like sticks in your mind? You're like, fuck, I that 1797 01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:22.279 just seems so bizarre and crazy, and I would love 1798 01:28:22.359 --> 01:28:22.680 to know. 1799 01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:27.359 Oh I got Alisa Lamb is fucking weird that it'd 1800 01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:32.399 be like that elevator found in the Yes, the Siso Hotel, Yeah, 1801 01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:36.119 the Cecil Hotel and me and Billy. That's a fucking 1802 01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:38.920 throwback to a way older episode. But that shit is weird, 1803 01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:40.479 and I just like debate if I ever want to 1804 01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:43.680 do it an episode again, like covering that, but I 1805 01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:45.319 think we did enough justice. But the at least the 1806 01:28:45.359 --> 01:28:49.479 Lamb thing is fucking weird. Okay, because Anton got me 1807 01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:53.359 into Discovery. Plus, I watched the fucking Ghost Adventures where 1808 01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:56.439 they go to the CISA Hotel and like the footage 1809 01:28:56.479 --> 01:28:58.239 of it because it brought me back to it recently. 1810 01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:01.119 Is creepy. She's like looking out the elevator and then 1811 01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:03.760 how she got into the tank and it closed. That 1812 01:29:03.840 --> 01:29:07.600 whole entire case sent shivers down my spine, especially when 1813 01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:10.439 you see the footage and you envision her and how 1814 01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:14.960 this dead, creepy hotel that Richard Ramirez and Jacket Uniwagger 1815 01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:18.560 stayed at. And then two serial killers stayed there, and 1816 01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:20.960 then you have this chicken. Then how haunted and how 1817 01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:24.680 many people commit suicide there? Like literally somebody jumped from 1818 01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:27.039 the CISA hotel and then landed on somebody else that 1819 01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:32.119 killed them. That's how fuck hotel or cecil cecil cecil whatever, 1820 01:29:33.399 --> 01:29:34.880 what about you, Antonio band? 1821 01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:36.399 Honestly probably the same that one. 1822 01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:38.760 That one's really the one that it's very I mean, 1823 01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:40.239 there was the case to be made for it just 1824 01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:43.560 being unchecked severe mental illness and then she just in 1825 01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:46.000 a paranoid frenzy crawled into a thing and died because 1826 01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:46.720 there was no way for her. 1827 01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:47.079 To get out. 1828 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:50.239 But obviously you have the black Dlia too, because yes, 1829 01:29:50.279 --> 01:29:52.239 she she disappeared, but they found her body. 1830 01:29:52.239 --> 01:29:54.720 But I liked that it's not really a disappearance. But 1831 01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:56.720 I mean, I guess neither is Lisa lamb By that 1832 01:29:56.720 --> 01:29:59.000 that's that's category. But I would say the missing four 1833 01:29:59.039 --> 01:30:00.680 one one shit in the case, yes, And that's the 1834 01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:03.720 thing that really comes to mind whenever anyone mentions missing people. 1835 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:05.720 Which we wanted to cover that and go in deeper 1836 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:08.239 me and just talking about strange disappearance is way back 1837 01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:09.439 in the day of the show. But I would like 1838 01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:13.079 to do more of extensive episode about it, because man, 1839 01:30:13.119 --> 01:30:17.039 there's the cave system. Shit's weird and it is you know, no, 1840 01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:22.199 we always say do it not that. 1841 01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:26.840 Well wins, reptile wins. 1842 01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:28.680 It's reptilians. Man, they're fucking episode. 1843 01:30:29.039 --> 01:30:31.079 We can't go through one episode without you mentioning the 1844 01:30:31.359 --> 01:30:38.199 reptilians coming mercy. 1845 01:30:39.079 --> 01:30:41.439 That was pretty good. I enjoyed this a lot, and 1846 01:30:41.640 --> 01:30:44.319 it was creepy because it's something I never knew about and. 1847 01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:46.279 Saying like, this is my first time hearing all this 1848 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:47.680 stuff because we've talked. 1849 01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:49.720 We know we it's finist too, but we didn't know 1850 01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:50.960 you because it would have been pretty good to have 1851 01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:53.279 all four of us on when we did the Irish 1852 01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:56.600 Mythical Monsters episode for Saint Patti's Day, or when I 1853 01:30:56.640 --> 01:31:01.680 got horribly drunk watching drunken videos for the Patreon and 1854 01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:04.199 and there's for the same Fire's Day live show. But 1855 01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:08.000 like there is, I've always liked, you know, getting in 1856 01:31:08.079 --> 01:31:11.479 learning about different style cases, especially in countries which maybe 1857 01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:14.199 I haven't looked into as deeply in Now there's I 1858 01:31:14.199 --> 01:31:16.560 want it. I'm excited to talk about some some Irish 1859 01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:18.640 show killers and murders. 1860 01:31:19.479 --> 01:31:21.720 Yeah, I would say that the one thing that still 1861 01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:25.359 even after doing this and you know, rereading books and 1862 01:31:26.439 --> 01:31:29.199 listening to podcasts and watching documentaries and doing as much 1863 01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:32.479 digging as I could, I still feel like a lot 1864 01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:34.760 of these cases are still like even this book here, 1865 01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:38.039 it's it's you know, it's quite a stick and it's yeah, 1866 01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:40.520 it's a three hundred page book, but I don't know, 1867 01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:46.359 it still feels very just barely on the surface. A 1868 01:31:46.359 --> 01:31:48.560 lot of the details I don't think, in my opinion, 1869 01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:49.399 are really details. 1870 01:31:49.520 --> 01:31:51.119 I agree, it's very vague. 1871 01:31:52.119 --> 01:31:54.760 Yeah, like all these cases seem to be very vague 1872 01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:57.039 and just kind of like, yeah, that's not really yeah. 1873 01:31:57.039 --> 01:31:59.199 And then even when you go online, there's not really 1874 01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:03.600 that many COMversations happening or rumors or theories. It's just 1875 01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:06.000 kind of like, yeah, it's probably Larry Murphy. 1876 01:32:06.159 --> 01:32:08.399 They're either keeping at the information close to the chest 1877 01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:10.039 or they're just not investigating a lot. 1878 01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:11.720 It seems like, yeah, yeah. 1879 01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:13.560 They don't seem or they don't give a fucking ship, 1880 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:16.920 which which happens in every country. Canada has that same 1881 01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:18.760 thing when it comes to cops. They're lazy and they 1882 01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:20.600 don't want to or they have ties to it. Who 1883 01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:25.319 fucking knows. It's a it's a strange, strange case. And uh, 1884 01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:28.079 it will be exciting to come back to the uh 1885 01:32:28.159 --> 01:32:31.479 your country, the old Ireland. 1886 01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:34.239 Absolutely, oh god, you have to work on. 1887 01:32:34.199 --> 01:32:37.479 That Ireland going to Ireland. 1888 01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:40.720 Can you give me. 1889 01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:42.159 Your best Cadian. 1890 01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:46.760 Canadian accent? Even like me, like just it. 1891 01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:50.680 Sounds like this very urgo Canadian bird. 1892 01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:52.960 You can. 1893 01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:57.079 I guess you could go new Fee anybody go down 1894 01:32:57.079 --> 01:32:58.600 to the potato farm. 1895 01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:00.920 Anybody, I forget you're go new for you just gotta 1896 01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:01.840 go trailer park boys. 1897 01:33:01.880 --> 01:33:03.239 That's that's the Newfoundland accent. 1898 01:33:04.439 --> 01:33:06.760 This is probably gonna be like it's gonna sound really bad. 1899 01:33:06.800 --> 01:33:09.239 But a lot of times I can't tell the difference 1900 01:33:09.239 --> 01:33:11.079 between an American accent and Canadian. 1901 01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:14.159 No, because there's not much. Especially Minnesota and Canada pretty. 1902 01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:18.399 Much the same Minnesota, Minnesota, eh, but you have different 1903 01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:21.000 places like Texas and stuff and stuff like that where 1904 01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:23.039 Brooklyn and stuff like that. But if you have like 1905 01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:26.359 people like Joe Rogan always talks about here's that joke 1906 01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:28.239 where he's like, uh, He's like, what do you know, 1907 01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:30.399 everyone's got different accents and stuff like that. You know, 1908 01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:32.560 he's making fun of a bunch of accents, and he 1909 01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:34.399 was like, what are you gonna say about fucking co 1910 01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:37.439 California that we speak clear and concise. 1911 01:33:37.119 --> 01:33:42.399 Like don't They're like, uh, it is y'all fucking California, Like, uh, 1912 01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:46.279 it's it's the uh the the fucking Californians on Saturday 1913 01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:46.680 Night Live. 1914 01:33:47.279 --> 01:33:49.000 We here. 1915 01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:52.760 All right, I'm still waiting on your your attempt at 1916 01:33:52.760 --> 01:33:54.479 a fucking American Canadian accent. 1917 01:33:56.359 --> 01:33:59.199 Yeah, I know he's not talking about my attempt at 1918 01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:03.239 an American accent, because uh, what what I'll do actually 1919 01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:06.680 is for the next for the next episode we do, 1920 01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:09.960 I'm gonna have an attempt for both separately. 1921 01:34:10.079 --> 01:34:12.359 Okay, yeah you should, yeah, definitely do that. And you 1922 01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:14.800 even uh yeah, that'd be that'd be a good idea. 1923 01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:17.319 I'll work on my I have to I have. 1924 01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:19.640 To go and actually listen to a Canadian as you can. 1925 01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:20.920 I even notice the difference. 1926 01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:23.960 That's sure, there's not there is really not much unless 1927 01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:27.239 you go certain places of Canada, like uh BC, they 1928 01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:29.960 have a lot more twang kind of in their voice. 1929 01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:32.800 It's there is accents around Caada, but unless you go 1930 01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:34.960 to Quebec, and then we just want to cut them 1931 01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:36.880 off with a saw they can get their fucking crazy 1932 01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:41.800 accents out of here. I list all our French listeners 1933 01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:44.239 all right. That was that was a good show. I 1934 01:34:44.319 --> 01:34:46.920 enjoyed that. You know, everybody show up there. Ship Obviously 1935 01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:48.359 you know where to find us w w dot Strange 1936 01:34:48.399 --> 01:34:51.800 roopodcast dot com, or you know, follow the Instagram at 1937 01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:54.840 Strange wop Podcast. We have the host heads page on Facebook, 1938 01:34:54.960 --> 01:34:57.159 but yeah, the website will direct you towards all of 1939 01:34:57.199 --> 01:34:57.760 that stuff. 1940 01:34:58.119 --> 01:35:01.159 Patreon, shelf Craft on Instagram, Invader digg It, underscore t 1941 01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:01.920 tv on Twitch. 1942 01:35:02.640 --> 01:35:06.239 In the time that the time this comes out, me 1943 01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:09.880 and Aaron's episode on the Irish Travelers should be out 1944 01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:11.760 where you actually can sit with us and you can 1945 01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:14.800 watch the doc the documentary that we talked about that 1946 01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:17.359 was a very fucking interesting episode. So shout that that. 1947 01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:18.439 I'll be on the Patreon soon. 1948 01:35:20.199 --> 01:35:26.279 Another strange folklore myth from Ireland to Travelers Strange yeah 1949 01:35:26.479 --> 01:35:29.680 www dot class, hardcast dot com for me that that 1950 01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:32.600 has everything basically to do with the podcast, social media 1951 01:35:32.640 --> 01:35:35.840 and whatever. And as regards social media, I'm only really 1952 01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:39.680 active on Instagram and even now I'm like terrible at 1953 01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:44.479 that sometimes as well, Yes you are. I don't know 1954 01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:46.840 what what's wrong with my account? I tried to like 1955 01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:49.319 switch it to a business account and back and like 1956 01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:53.079 my messages like go into like requests and like disappearance, 1957 01:35:53.239 --> 01:35:56.560 like the archive filer that's older and stuff, and I'm like, 1958 01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:00.760 I don't yeah, but yeah www dot class hardcast dot 1959 01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:03.800 com and on Instagram it's first class horror. 1960 01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:07.680 Yeah enough for everybody out there, stay stick classy stranger. 1961 01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:14.239 Oh my god, all right, I guess be so watch 1962 01:36:14.279 --> 01:36:15.760 the skies and watch your butthole. 1963 01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:18.319 Tom's stealing my line just because I want on to 1964 01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:19.640 shove a potato in his ass? 1965 01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:21.479 Got a potato? 1966 01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:35.479 Mom? 1967 01:36:36.039 --> 01:36:37.000 What's happened here? 1968 01:36:37.359 --> 01:36:37.600 Cast? 1969 01:36:37.640 --> 01:36:40.600 You at the strata sphere, all these back casts trying 1970 01:36:40.600 --> 01:36:43.079 to make raft book career. I had the laugh, that's 1971 01:36:43.119 --> 01:36:45.600 the fast you had the scales that's a hare stabbing 1972 01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:48.840 kill you let their passion, got breath and pails standing 1973 01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:52.640 next rapping panic attacks where you'd let the scales camera actions. 1974 01:36:52.920 --> 01:36:54.439 That's a pail and not gonna. 1975 01:36:54.199 --> 01:36:57.079 Say you're masking how you feel, acting like you're real. 1976 01:36:57.560 --> 01:36:59.520 You want to jump to me naturally. 1977 01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:03.439 I have to be the grops NATTYMC that knows that 1978 01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:06.640 the ghost of Anthony Ordaine is in me. The chef 1979 01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:09.760 mentingly depressed goes being on his way to fame. No 1980 01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:14.720 shame in me because the truth, so fucking live freak th. 1981 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:17.920 Chain is they have been in me a gluttony. You 1982 01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:19.439 are so fucking chee. 1983 01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:23.520 There's nothing to me to say. Fucking po police, you 1984 01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:24.760 are nothing but shame. 1985 01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:26.479 Go to sleep. 1986 01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:28.479 Trust me you are nine MC. 1987 01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:30.640 I guarantee you sell your soul. 1988 01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:34.239 Were shot at MTV the bell told on the cluck 1989 01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:37.760 of destiny, and I've su spent energy from balloon in 1990 01:37:37.880 --> 01:37:40.439 my thoughts chemically unbellanced. 1991 01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:42.960 If you mentioned me, you don't better be saying not. 1992 01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:47.199 The FMC talent is what I have talents in my back. 1993 01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:51.199 Fine with the birds off the ground, the lion church 1994 01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:52.840 God is not around. 1995 01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:56.439 The saying is go back to the faces pitch and 1996 01:37:56.560 --> 01:37:58.159 I know what the matrix is. 1997 01:37:58.359 --> 01:38:03.079 And I knows to escape, and you place your faith 1998 01:38:03.159 --> 01:38:08.359 in nothing but hatred. So step back and to realize 1999 01:38:08.399 --> 01:38:10.880 that this says nothing but big ship