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<v Speaker 1>Are they looking for specific qualities in a victim. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing previous trauma, Like you stated, it would be something

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<v Speaker 1>they would look for. But I know at first they

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<v Speaker 1>were using MK Ultra on impoverished communities, college students, prisoners.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they had an entire hospital wing that they were

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<v Speaker 1>using the Ultra Subproject thirty five, a grant was given

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<v Speaker 1>to Georgetown University Hospital in Washington, DC in nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five for three hundred and seventy five thousand dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>an MK Ultra wing of the hospital called the Gorman Building,

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<v Speaker 1>so that project could be carried out by the agency

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<v Speaker 1>without the awareness of the CIA interest. All this is documented.

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<v Speaker 1>I've read all of the one hundred and forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>subprojects of the MK Ultra declassified documents. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think impoverished people are targeted because they're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to have the finances and the ability to file

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<v Speaker 2>a lawsuit and to bring the information to life. It's very,

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult to have a voice when you have no money.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that for a fact. I've certainly been experiencing

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<v Speaker 2>it ever since I've been blowing the whistle on this

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<v Speaker 2>whole mk ULTRA projects. So people are targeting if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a voice or who are not considered to

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<v Speaker 2>be credible. And my family was very poor until my

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<v Speaker 2>father sold me into the project. Then he received lucrative

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<v Speaker 2>military contracts after that, because you know, that's the way

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<v Speaker 2>it works if you're complying with the programs.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so you were sold into the program at

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<v Speaker 1>a really young age. Is that how most people are

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<v Speaker 1>put into these programs? Are they sold? Are they found

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<v Speaker 1>on the street? Is it a bloodline thing? Like? How

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<v Speaker 1>do most people get put into this mk Ultra or

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<v Speaker 1>monarch or any of the sub program programs of mk Ultra.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's many different ways that it happens that

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<v Speaker 2>our children are definitely targeted in the school system, and

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<v Speaker 2>our children are the ones who are always being targeted

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<v Speaker 2>for mk ultra mind control because if their knowledge base

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<v Speaker 2>is altered through the so called education system and are

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<v Speaker 2>doctrinated with a basis of misinformation, like history has been

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<v Speaker 2>rewritten in the education system since global education was put

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the eighties. As soon as the states

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<v Speaker 2>became reliant on federal funding, that and this mk ULTRA

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<v Speaker 2>was brought into the school system and the knowledge base

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<v Speaker 2>was altered, and the federal government, this criminal faction behind

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government, operating under total secrecy, hiding under a

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<v Speaker 2>blanket of national security, was then using this within the

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<v Speaker 2>school system, and they were also being able to identified

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<v Speaker 2>children who were abused or highly suggestible. Trauma is a

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<v Speaker 2>basis of mind control, and any kind of abuse creates

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<v Speaker 2>a heightened suggestibility and an incess based family all those

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<v Speaker 2>generations down. The children after three generations are born more compliant,

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<v Speaker 2>easily led, and highly suggestible. That's why I was targeted.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're always looking for people who have a heightened

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<v Speaker 2>suggestability from either multi generational trauma, trauma of the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. But that's ultimately what they're looking for is

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<v Speaker 2>whoever will comply, not willingly. It's not necessary because it's

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<v Speaker 2>a subconscious mind that is being manipulated, and it's the

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge base that's being manipulated. When you consider that we

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<v Speaker 2>all formulate our thoughts, our opinions, and our actions based

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<v Speaker 2>on what we know, we need to know that knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>base has been deliberately altered, you know, like I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying at the beginning, pertinent information on mind brain function,

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<v Speaker 2>which is our defense against mind control, which is our

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<v Speaker 2>defense against any kind of trauma, and so that we

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<v Speaker 2>can heal from that instead of staining in this victim mentality,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we can rise above that. We have that capacity.

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<v Speaker 2>That information was suppressed for over three generations very deliberately,

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<v Speaker 2>so we start to see how information control takes its

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<v Speaker 2>toll on the human mind. And then we get the

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<v Speaker 2>heightened suggestibility, and you have the compliance society that is

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<v Speaker 2>necessary for this globalist agenda that we're all experiencing today

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<v Speaker 2>under the guise of a you know, great reset or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they want to call it, the New World Order,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever global thing they want to call it. The point

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<v Speaker 2>is it's a slave society agenda, and I think people

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<v Speaker 2>are really really catching on to that ever since the

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<v Speaker 2>trauma was was imposed on humanity a couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>ago where everyone started to have I believe it was

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<v Speaker 2>called mass formation psychosis, which is another term for brainwashing

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<v Speaker 2>or mind control. You know, I call it mind control

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<v Speaker 2>because that's that was just the level that I was

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<v Speaker 2>used on. That was the level that I was exposed to,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what is strateigue magically and scientific scientifically implemented

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<v Speaker 2>on NASA and military installations.

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<v Speaker 1>Now from my understanding Kathy. Not very many people survived

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<v Speaker 1>the mk ultra process, and the ones that did were

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<v Speaker 1>eventually killed when they ran out of usefulness or became

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<v Speaker 1>too big a problem, because why would you let anyone

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<v Speaker 1>survive because they're just going to you know, talk about it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that blows the whistle on the whole operation. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're a special case because you were saved by a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the intelligence community. But what happens to the

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<v Speaker 1>people that aren't saved by a person in the intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>community or the intelligence community in a whole, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>how expendable are the assets in these programs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, usually any kind of trauma, any kind of childhood abuse,

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<v Speaker 2>starts to surface around a thirty because we get electrochemical

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<v Speaker 2>changes in our brain about that time, and the neuron

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<v Speaker 2>pathways in our brain are opening up and so repress memory,

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<v Speaker 2>which trauma causes, can surface around age thirty. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you see certain entertainers who are definitely under MK ultra

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<v Speaker 2>mind control turning around age thirty, that's when their programming

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<v Speaker 2>starts to break up and they look like they've gone berserk.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they'll shave their head or you know, or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And at a time like that, they're usually sent to

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<v Speaker 2>mind control programming epicenter like the underworld of Disney World

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<v Speaker 2>is a very common one. Disney's been heavily involved, and

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<v Speaker 2>we see, we especially hear Disney associated with that entertainment industry.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's a good public one to point out.

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<v Speaker 2>But others are killed, and many who worked on a

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<v Speaker 2>White House Pentagon level like I did during the Reagan

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<v Speaker 2>Bush administration were killed at places like Bohemian Grove or

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<v Speaker 2>or sacrificed when they turn age thirty. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>was turning age thirty, that is exactly when intelligence insider

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Phillips, you know, rescued my daughter me right out

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<v Speaker 2>of the Washington d C. Swamp and handed me keys

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<v Speaker 2>to my own mind so that I could heal from within.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, we have this ability within us. We

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<v Speaker 2>all forgot and it's easy to remember. And he showed

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<v Speaker 2>me how to heal and from from that trauma, to

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<v Speaker 2>reclaim and retain my free thought. So I was very

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<v Speaker 2>very fortunate in that regard and was able to heal

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<v Speaker 2>from within myself.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's what I'm so excited about today, is

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<v Speaker 3>to remind everybody, hey, we are blessed with this amazing

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<v Speaker 3>capability within us to heal from from any kind of trauma,

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<v Speaker 3>from any kind of mind manipulation.

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<v Speaker 2>To reclaim and retain our free thought forever. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's amazing that we have this potential within us, and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody really just needs to be reminded the same way

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<v Speaker 2>that Mark reminded me, so that you know, we could

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<v Speaker 2>all safeguard this going forward and and evolve back with

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<v Speaker 2>the knowledge that is our birthright and that we should

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<v Speaker 2>have had to begin with.