Speaker 1: It's nice eyes.
Speaker 2: Undell Boston's News Radio. All Right, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: controversy surrounding President Trump and his deportations. Let me be
Speaker 2: very clear. I think that the deportations of criminal elements
Speaker 2: from this country not only are proper, but they are
Speaker 2: totally necessary. And I support what the President is doing,
Speaker 2: particularly in terms of the gang members that seem to
Speaker 2: be at the heart of a controversy with a judge
Speaker 2: in Washington, MS thirteen gang members and members of Trendaragua.
Speaker 2: These are you've seen the pictures. I think all of
Speaker 2: you know what's going on there. I think all of
Speaker 2: us know what's going on there. However, there's a case
Speaker 2: that has Perkle laid it up out of Texas, which
Speaker 2: troubles me, and it troubles me in two levels. It
Speaker 2: troubles me in that I don't think that is what
Speaker 2: people voted for when they voted for Donald Trump number
Speaker 2: one and number two. I think it is a mistake
Speaker 2: that as President Trump is trying to rid the country
Speaker 2: of the bad guys, as he says, that's what he
Speaker 2: says whenever he talks to the media. You may or
Speaker 2: may not have heard about this case. It was broken
Speaker 2: by NBC News a few days ago. And there's some
Speaker 2: complications in this case. And actually I was trying to
Speaker 2: do some research on it tonight. It's one of those
Speaker 2: cases that even Snopes with the fact checkers. And I
Speaker 2: want to be fair to the president and I want
Speaker 2: to be fear to the media and to all of you,
Speaker 2: my audience, But this is a case that troubles me.
Speaker 2: And let me explain it to you as simply as
Speaker 2: I can. I know that some of you will agree
Speaker 2: with me on this, and some of you will disagree
Speaker 2: with me on this, but I'm prepared to defend my position,
Speaker 2: and I hope you are prepared to either support me
Speaker 2: on it or disagree with me on it. Okay, So there,
Speaker 2: Our borders have been open for years. They were open
Speaker 2: going back twenty years. It was ironic. They were wide
Speaker 2: open under President Biden. They weren't patrolled necessarily all that
Speaker 2: effectively during the first Trump administration. I mean, we have
Speaker 2: at this point, there's some guestimates that we could have
Speaker 2: sixteen eighteen million people here in this country illegally. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the number is. I don't think anyone
Speaker 2: knows what the number is. But a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Most of those people have come here in search of
Speaker 2: a better life. But the problem is, as they have
Speaker 2: come here in search of a better life, they have
Speaker 2: disrespected our laws. And I think that it has become
Speaker 2: a political battle. And I think that President Trump and
Speaker 2: ICE Director Holman, they have legitimate concerns. And I know
Speaker 2: that there are many people on the other side of
Speaker 2: this argument from me and from you. And there are
Speaker 2: people who will call tonight and have called in the past,
Speaker 2: who will basically say, we don't have a right as
Speaker 2: a country to have borders, which I think is crazy
Speaker 2: because if a country doesn't have borders, why bother have
Speaker 2: a country. So but there's this case out of Texas
Speaker 2: which bothers me, and I'm going to hit it pretty
Speaker 2: quickly here, and after I hit it, we can amplify
Speaker 2: a little bit on the other side. But I want
Speaker 2: to hear from all of you, okay, And I want
Speaker 2: to hear particularly from Trump supporters. So there's a husband
Speaker 2: and wife who came here illegally. They've been here for
Speaker 2: the short version. They've been here for ten years living
Speaker 2: in Texas. They have several children, they have five children,
Speaker 2: most of them I think one of the children were
Speaker 2: brought here many years ago, so that child is not
Speaker 2: a resident, is not a citizen. But they do. And
Speaker 2: will put aside for a moment the whole argument about
Speaker 2: birthright citizenship. Even if birthright citizenship is overturned, the people
Speaker 2: who were born here they're citizens at this point, until
Speaker 2: birthright citizens is repealed, they're citizens. And you're not going
Speaker 2: to be able to go back expost factor and say
Speaker 2: if you were born here and your parents were in
Speaker 2: citizens you do not have rights to citizenship. So this
Speaker 2: is ten year old girl and she is dealing either
Speaker 2: with a brain tumor or with continuing brain cancer. I'm
Speaker 2: not a doctor, no will I play one on TV. However,
Speaker 2: she is a ten year old girl. She's a citizen
Speaker 2: of the United States of America. Her family was driving
Speaker 2: to a hospital in Houston. They live in Texas, or
Speaker 2: they lived in Texas, and in the past they have
Speaker 2: always been allowed through the various checkpoints, but apparently at
Speaker 2: some point in November they were on this drive. They
Speaker 2: lived somewhere in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas, near
Speaker 2: the border with Mexico. They had to clear a border
Speaker 2: patrol checkpoint. Internally, there are only checkpoints at the border
Speaker 2: in some cases, but they are checkpoints internally, so they
Speaker 2: were stopped and according to a video statement, the mother said,
Speaker 2: the trip was routine. I'm reading here from an article
Speaker 2: that is a CNN article. The trip was routine until
Speaker 2: February third. This time we were detained and confronted with
Speaker 2: the hardest decision to make, which was separated permanently from
Speaker 2: our children or be to board it together, the mother
Speaker 2: said in a statement as she struggled through tears. The
Speaker 2: mom said that her daughter, Sarah US citizen, ten years old,
Speaker 2: had begun experiencing headaches and dizziness in the morning of
Speaker 2: February third, prompting her parents to follows doctor's orders and
Speaker 2: immediately returned to the hospital in Houston with the physician's
Speaker 2: letter in hand explaining the girl's dire condition or condition.
Speaker 2: The vehicle approached a border patrol agents at a checkpoint
Speaker 2: in Siriita, Texas, roughly ninety miles into the journey. The
Speaker 2: family had passed through this checkpoint several times for postop
Speaker 2: medical appointments using the letter, and for that reason they
Speaker 2: weren't concerned. But instead of the routine check Marie and
Speaker 2: one and I guess those are names that are not
Speaker 2: necessarily the actual names of the parents and the five
Speaker 2: children all question for hours. They were transported south to
Speaker 2: a federal processing facility where they spent the night. The
Speaker 2: next day they were taken on nearby port of entry
Speaker 2: and we walked across the US Mexican border by immigration authorities.
Speaker 2: CBP told CNN the agency does not deport US citizens
Speaker 2: who elect to a company removed family members. So what
Speaker 2: they're saying is the couple's oldest child, who is also
Speaker 2: a US citizen, was not traveling with the family at
Speaker 2: the time and remains in the US. The immigration attorney
Speaker 2: characterizes the couple's status in Texas as living clean, wholesome
Speaker 2: lives trying to raise their kids. They worked in the
Speaker 2: agricultural sector, doing things like packing fruits and vegetables that
Speaker 2: produce packing plants, and they had no criminal records or
Speaker 2: anything to speak of. To me, that's irrelevant. What is
Speaker 2: relevant is that their daughter is dealing with brain cancer.
Speaker 2: And it would seem to me that every law should
Speaker 2: have an exception. If a police officer pulls someone for
Speaker 2: going through a red light, and when the car stops,
Speaker 2: the driver explains that his wife is in labor and
Speaker 2: he's trying to rush into the hospital. Should the police
Speaker 2: officer run a check on the car and write its
Speaker 2: speeding or red light ticket. I don't think so. I
Speaker 2: think the police car should say follow me and give
Speaker 2: them a police escort to the hospital. Every law has
Speaker 2: an exception, and in this case, the Border patrol agents
Speaker 2: whoever was involved in this decision, they followed the letter
Speaker 2: of the law, but they made a mistake. Now this
Speaker 2: story has been around for a few days. NBC kind
Speaker 2: of broke the story, CNN has been on it. I
Speaker 2: would like to know what you think. Why not say
Speaker 2: to the parents, you can go to the hospital. You
Speaker 2: need to report back to us at some point and
Speaker 2: we will follow the progress of your daughter and we
Speaker 2: will make sure that she gets the medical care that
Speaker 2: she needs. This is a ten year old child who
Speaker 2: has dealt with brain cancer. I've seen differing reports that
Speaker 2: she currently has brain cancer, or she had a tumor
Speaker 2: removed and they were hopeful that they had removed the
Speaker 2: entirety of the tumor the brain cancer, but she was
Speaker 2: experiencing problems and she was going back for treatment. So
Speaker 2: my question is really simple, do you think I think
Speaker 2: that if Donald Trump knew about this, and I hope
Speaker 2: he does, or do you think someone in his administration
Speaker 2: who has his ear and I hope they do, would
Speaker 2: tell him that this is a huge mistake. It goes
Speaker 2: against the policy that he is articulated. They want to
Speaker 2: get the worst criminals out of the country as soon
Speaker 2: as possible. Now, I speak to someone who loves legal immigrants,
Speaker 2: feels people need to come here legally. They can't stop
Speaker 2: start off by coming in illegally. But in this situation,
Speaker 2: our government has in effect aided and embedded this family.
Speaker 2: They've been here for ten years. This couple been here
Speaker 2: for ten years, They've had children, So now they have
Speaker 2: some children who are citizens, some children who are not.
Speaker 2: I think you could argue, well, if they're going to
Speaker 2: be deported, what do you do with the children? And
Speaker 2: I think each case has to be dealt with individually.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they would remove themselves and the children could
Speaker 2: stay with relatives, or maybe they would take the children
Speaker 2: with them and they then would be able to go
Speaker 2: back and apply for citizenship based upon the fact that
Speaker 2: they have children of American citizens. There has to be
Speaker 2: a way to do this, But to take a couple
Speaker 2: of parents who are here illegally and say to them,
Speaker 2: you got to leave, and you got to make the choice.
Speaker 2: Do you want to take your ten year old with
Speaker 2: brain cancer with you or do you want to do
Speaker 2: you have someone to leave her with. This is just
Speaker 2: the sort of mistake the administration makes there. They're they're
Speaker 2: fighting a judge, and I think the judge is wrong
Speaker 2: in terms of the transportation of the criminals. Get those
Speaker 2: guys out, get them out, and keep them out. We
Speaker 2: have enough criminals of our own in this country. You
Speaker 2: may not have heard about this story. That is the
Speaker 2: story as I understand it. I think you know me
Speaker 2: pretty well. I'm interested in what would you think six seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four thirty six one, seven, nine, three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: I know that some of you, who are full blown
Speaker 2: supporters of Donald Trump might disagree with me. I'm hoping
Speaker 2: some of you will agree with me, even though you
Speaker 2: are full blown supporters. I support his policy to get
Speaker 2: the criminals out of this country, and I commend him
Speaker 2: for what he's doing with the TDA, the trend de grauer,
Speaker 2: which is very difficult to pronounce. I certainly commend him
Speaker 2: on what he's doing with m MS thirteen. Uh, and
Speaker 2: it was brilliant to send them to a Salvador. I mean,
Speaker 2: what a stroke of genius. Congratulations to Marco Rubio, the
Speaker 2: Secretary of State. But on this one, this policy needs
Speaker 2: to be reversed. These people need to be brought back.
Speaker 2: Get this girl who her treatment, get her well, and
Speaker 2: work with these parents and figure out they have five
Speaker 2: kids for them are US citizens? Back on nights Side
Speaker 2: right after this, agree to disagree, let me have it now.
Speaker 3: Back to Dan ray Line from the Window World.
Speaker 2: Night Side Studios on w b Z, the news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the phones. I've I want
Speaker 2: to hear from you six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty
Speaker 2: and I want to hear from moms on this one particularly.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine being put in that position by our government. Uh,
Speaker 2: assuming that the documents that they had are legitimate, and
Speaker 2: assuming that that someone in a position of intelligence and
Speaker 2: authority looked at those documents. I just think it is unacceptable, unacceptable.
Speaker 2: If there was ever a situation where there should be
Speaker 2: an exception made, this is it, Vinnie in New Hampshire. Vini,
Speaker 2: youre going to start us off. Go right ahead, Vinnie.
Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred percent. You spent seventeen
Speaker 4: years in law enforcement, and one of the things I
Speaker 4: remember clearly one of my instructors beat it into us.
Speaker 4: You enforced the law on two precedences, the common sense
Speaker 4: to know when and the logic to know why.
Speaker 5: And I'm sorry there was in a case like this, No, it.
Speaker 4: Should have been done totally different.
Speaker 5: You know, this wasn't.
Speaker 4: You're not dealing with a speed area or anything. You're
Speaker 4: dealing with a child's life, Okay, And as an interest
Speaker 4: of public safety, every law enforcement officer is job is
Speaker 4: public safety, and that child's safety should have been as
Speaker 4: made or that agent's main priority. And it just, in
Speaker 4: my opinion, it wasn't. And I think they were one
Speaker 4: hundred wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I got to tell you if I
Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin's grandson or granddaughter who was ten years old
Speaker 2: and had a brain tumor, and he asked to bring
Speaker 2: that child to Boston or to the Cleveland clinic or
Speaker 2: to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and Rochester, Minnesota, I
Speaker 2: would say, hey, look, you know you don't visit the
Speaker 2: sins of the father or the grandfather on a child.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, and and if the if the
Speaker 2: parents made this mistake of coming across the border illegally, fine,
Speaker 2: they can pay for that mistake. But right now the
Speaker 2: priority needs to be the health of this child and
Speaker 2: keeping that family. I agree with that, Benny. I appreciate you, Carl,
Speaker 2: and are you so you were? Are you still in
Speaker 2: law enforcement or no?
Speaker 4: Seventeen years and I got out.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you for your service, and thank you
Speaker 2: for being It's a very strong supportive call, and I
Speaker 2: appreciate it. I know that someone will disagree with me
Speaker 2: and say, hey, you know, you've got to be consistent
Speaker 2: if they broke the law. But I learned a long
Speaker 2: time ago consistency can be on occasion the hobgoblin of
Speaker 2: small minds.
Speaker 6: Thank you friends.
Speaker 4: This country great, the ability to disagree and have a conversation.
Speaker 2: You got it, Vinnie, I don't know, go off and
Speaker 2: you call the show, but I hope you become much
Speaker 2: more of a regular caller. I love your your approach.
Speaker 2: Thank you much, Thank you, talk to you soon. Let's
Speaker 2: keep rolling here. We're going to go next to the
Speaker 2: only line open, right Well, there's two lines at six, one,
Speaker 2: seven nine. I want to hear what you're thinking. I
Speaker 2: want to hear from Trump supporters. That was I should
Speaker 2: have asked Vinnie if he's a Trump supporter. But that's
Speaker 2: you can declare it or not. It's your choice. John
Speaker 2: and Foxborough, Hey John, you're next on Nightsacer right ahead.
Speaker 5: Hey Dan, I'm a Trump supporter, but uh, you know,
Speaker 5: last administration caused such a disaster with millions of people,
Speaker 5: uh you know, coming into this country. And and not
Speaker 5: to correct you, but as far as what the administration,
Speaker 5: this administration, Trump administration said was they were gonna start
Speaker 5: with all the bad guys, how the murders, all the
Speaker 5: rapists of the sex Factor, because the drug dealers first,
Speaker 5: and then you know, work their way down priority. But
Speaker 5: I would imagine your heart as a human has to
Speaker 5: go out for that family. I'm sure if Trump knew
Speaker 5: about it and send Trump Trump forced one down there,
Speaker 5: probably take the family and take care of them. That
Speaker 5: this administration is really over burden right now. And you
Speaker 5: know you have ice agents, you know, trying to do
Speaker 5: the right thing. And I was on the show last week.
Speaker 5: We were talking about and I mentioned a real life
Speaker 5: scenario where a friend of mine was telling me who's
Speaker 5: in law enforcement, that you know when they're locking up
Speaker 5: these legals that uh, you know, the near none of
Speaker 5: the detainers are being abided by. In other words, so
Speaker 5: they could have an illegal locked up for murder and
Speaker 5: he has an ICE detainer. They're gonna let him out
Speaker 5: what we pay for it, by the way, you know
Speaker 5: with the bonds bill's bondsman's which they used to pay with,
Speaker 5: but the tax papers for that now and then and
Speaker 5: then the unintended consequences is when they go after them
Speaker 5: like in these neighborhoods, these drug dealers in in these
Speaker 5: murders are staying with relatives that are probably really nice people.
Speaker 5: They probably the right thing. Some might be they have
Speaker 5: paying taxes, whatever. But when they go raid these houses,
Speaker 5: like to Tom Holman said, look, leave them in the
Speaker 5: jail so we can go right in there. It's easier,
Speaker 5: it's less dangerous for the ICE agents and lartal agents.
Speaker 2: You and I have no beef on this. I totally
Speaker 2: agree with you. I disagree with the lun case here
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, which.
Speaker 5: And I do too. Is a Trump supporter. If a
Speaker 5: if a humans right, if if a human thing, it's
Speaker 5: just like that poor little thirteen year old boy. Uh
Speaker 5: as when the Democrats would wouldn't stand up for that
Speaker 5: poor little short battent brand if they're right, I mean,
Speaker 5: you have all.
Speaker 2: The more reason, Yeah, all the more reason that I
Speaker 2: would hope that President Trump or someone is an administration
Speaker 2: would be smart enough to say a mistake has been made.
Speaker 2: Let's get that child with her family back here and
Speaker 2: make sure she gets the medical treatment, the best medical
Speaker 2: treatment that that she can that we can provide to
Speaker 2: do whatever we can to to to cure her if
Speaker 2: possible a brain cancer again, uh, if there's nothing's guaranteed,
Speaker 2: but but we we gotta make the effort. And to
Speaker 2: just ship her away that is a huge it's a
Speaker 2: it's a it's a human humanitarian mistake, and it's it's
Speaker 2: compounded as a political mistake.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 5: And as a Trump supporter, I would be on the
Speaker 5: side of getting that family and that poor little girl
Speaker 5: back And I think, you know, people take Trump with
Speaker 5: a bad rush, but you know I followed Trump for
Speaker 5: years and years. I'm a real estate development myself, but
Speaker 5: like you know, redoing walden Rink areno during the Mayre
Speaker 5: Cotch days when no one did it, and he did
Speaker 5: it on his own dime and all that stuff, So
Speaker 5: he's a real caring person. Again, human errors or whatever,
Speaker 5: but I would imagine and I would hope that if
Speaker 5: he heard about that story, you know, either him or
Speaker 5: kids would go down there and try to take care
Speaker 5: of that on a human level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the way to do it is not to
Speaker 2: say we'll get you the best doctor in Mexico, because
Speaker 2: if it was one of your children, I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to send your child to Mexico. I want your child
Speaker 2: or any child at the best facility. Well we can't.
Speaker 2: We can't call Mexico and say send us every child
Speaker 2: with brain cancer. I mean, that would be a nice
Speaker 2: thing to do. But for us to have deported a
Speaker 2: family with the child is a huge mistake. And I
Speaker 2: think that the Trump administration, and there have to be
Speaker 2: people who are listening tonight who have access to this administration,
Speaker 2: get this child and that family back here, deal with
Speaker 2: her medical problems first, then deal somewhere down the line
Speaker 2: with the parents as as illegal or illegal or illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2: Simple as that.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, just just day. It's just like that sad story
Speaker 5: where that poor little girl was up here with the
Speaker 5: kidney transplant that that crash in that uh jet going
Speaker 5: back to it with it Mexico whatever.
Speaker 2: Yes, she was young, was sending back to Mexico.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, and it was because they don't have the
Speaker 5: same uh procedures as far as like in the United States,
Speaker 5: as far as the maintenance on those planes and stuff.
Speaker 5: For that poor little girl. I can't even watch that.
Speaker 5: It's so hot breaking her and the mother here. They
Speaker 5: get the girl the transplant and she's so happy, and
Speaker 5: now she's off to Mexico in the plane crashes because
Speaker 5: of you know, just uh, I.
Speaker 2: Mean unfortunately, yeah, unfortunately, we don't have control over that
Speaker 2: meaning whatever was probably just as we didn't have control
Speaker 2: over the plane with all the US Skaters familys tragedy.
Speaker 2: We can do something about this kid. And unless there's
Speaker 2: overriding information that that I had not seen, and I
Speaker 2: don't think there is, let's get that child back here. John,
Speaker 2: Thank you much. I gotta Runick, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Have a great night. One line at six one seven
Speaker 2: two flat four ten thirty easier to get through with
Speaker 2: six one seven ninety. If you're a Trump supporter, I
Speaker 2: particularly want to hear from you. If you're a Trump critic,
Speaker 2: this is an opportunity as well. We will take more
Speaker 2: phone calls right after we come back from the news
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour. We're a couple of
Speaker 2: minutes late. I think this is an important story. I
Speaker 2: don't know Donald Trump. I've never met Donald Trump. I've
Speaker 2: never talked to Donald Trump. He's the president of the
Speaker 2: United States. Okay, just as Joe Biden was the President
Speaker 2: of the United States. He has, I think, an obligation
Speaker 2: and his staff has an obligation. This has to be rectified.
Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. We'll be back on Nightside
Speaker 2: right after this.
Speaker 6: It's Night Side with.
Speaker 3: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Keep Rowland here, Come on, Trump supporters, let's hear you.
Speaker 2: Come on. Let me go next to Rick and Bill Rica. Rick,
Speaker 2: you are next on Nightside. Appreciate you taking the time
Speaker 2: to call in. What's your thought on this one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure, and I vote it for But I'm
Speaker 1: not happy to see that they're focusing on a situation
Speaker 1: like this. This is foolish. They ought to be focusing
Speaker 1: on getting the MS thirteen and other terrorist groups, you know,
Speaker 1: gangs out of this country. And yeah, this is foolish
Speaker 1: and you know, I like your last caller. He said
Speaker 1: a lot of good things. And you know, maybe these
Speaker 1: people think they're doing the right thing, but they need
Speaker 1: to be corrected and need to say good job. But
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you've got to make the exceptions.
Speaker 1: And it's okay to make the exceptions. They should make
Speaker 1: an exception, and you're you know what, we're going to
Speaker 1: lose them in terms to the Democrats if if they
Speaker 1: just decide to go with this one one rule, it's
Speaker 1: all type of situation. Well, and it's going to really
Speaker 1: upset people and then you know who else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well, the deal here is interesting in that
Speaker 2: if I don't know, assuming that everything that I've read,
Speaker 2: and I've tried to read as much about it today
Speaker 2: as I could, Okay, and it's been on NB see,
Speaker 2: it's been on seeing at least written stories, And it
Speaker 2: seems to me that that assuming that this is all accurate,
Speaker 2: and the little girl, she's ten years old, she is
Speaker 2: a US citizen. She has brain cancer. Whether she it's
Speaker 2: active now or she had a tumor removed, that's one
Speaker 2: of the issues that seems to be a little in question,
Speaker 2: or whether or not this is coming back or she
Speaker 2: had to get back there. She was feeling ill. There
Speaker 2: had to be some person in that situation and said,
Speaker 2: wait a second. These parents are illegal, but this is
Speaker 2: their child and she's a US citizen. This is this
Speaker 2: is a case that defies easy categorization, and we have
Speaker 2: to focus on the child. And we don't want to
Speaker 2: separate this family. Let's find out who they are, where
Speaker 2: they're going to be, let's follow them and all of that,
Speaker 2: but let's get him to the hospital. That's that's what
Speaker 2: abnormal person would do. Why that wasn't done in this case.
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just maybe Tom Holman. Tom Holman is a
Speaker 1: hot headed guy. I mean, I know he wants to
Speaker 1: do the right thing. But well, if we all tell you.
Speaker 2: If I were the president of the United States and
Speaker 2: I called home and I said, look, I just heard
Speaker 2: about this story on this radio show out at Boston.
Speaker 2: What's the deal with this ten year old girl that
Speaker 2: is an American citizen was deported along with her family.
Speaker 2: And if Homan said to me something like, well.
Speaker 7: We didn't deport her. That was the family's decision. We
Speaker 7: deported the parents. Therefore, technically we didn't deport her. Which
Speaker 7: I think is what the border patrol people are saying.
Speaker 7: I would say, you get her back. And if Homan
Speaker 7: says you get them all, I would say get them
Speaker 7: all back.
Speaker 2: And if Holman said to me, no, mister President, we
Speaker 2: got a you got to get them all out, I
Speaker 2: would have said you're fired.
Speaker 1: No. Definitely, I hope Trump does, because he seems to
Speaker 1: have a heart. He's a hardheaded guy. He's he's he's
Speaker 1: very decisive and what he wants to will seemingly in
Speaker 1: other words, he's not so much a flip floppers, say
Speaker 1: John Terry was once once upon a time. Oh yeah right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but but but he should I would it would be nice,
Speaker 1: just like we talked about pardoning Hunter. Will Hunter got
Speaker 1: pardoned by his father. But the whole thing of just
Speaker 1: starting a new and saying we're not going to go
Speaker 1: after trying to get rid of all the Democrats and
Speaker 1: this and that, we're just going to show that our
Speaker 1: ways are better. And I think in this case, I
Speaker 1: just hope he corrects it quickly. Well, you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad to bringing it up because I'm just hearing
Speaker 1: it from you.
Speaker 2: Well, I am happy to bring it up. Rick and
Speaker 2: again I support what he's doing, getting bad people out
Speaker 2: of the country and getting also people here. After we
Speaker 2: get all the bad people out, we got to say
Speaker 2: to some of these other people. And one of the
Speaker 2: things they're doing, which is brilliant, is encouraging people to
Speaker 2: self deport, leave on their own. You've seen probably that
Speaker 2: that spot that christynomans that if you leave on your own,
Speaker 2: you have a chance to come back. If we deport you,
Speaker 2: you'll never be So that's you know, that's a little
Speaker 2: carrot and stick. But yeah, get this girl back. Thank you. Rick,
Speaker 2: appreciate it so much. I appreciate it all right. Let
Speaker 2: me go next to Alison in Portland, Maine. Allison, you
Speaker 2: were next on night Side.
Speaker 3: Hi boy, I tend to disagree with a lot of
Speaker 3: things you say to the Aniston. Don't listen to that
Speaker 3: much anymore because of that. But oh gee, I don't
Speaker 3: always want to go back to this. You're going on
Speaker 3: about this and you don't care about thousands and thousands
Speaker 3: of Palestinian children have been killed in the past fifteen months,
Speaker 3: you know, or seventeen months. You don't care about them,
Speaker 3: But do you care about this one particular case. I
Speaker 3: think that's very hypocritical.
Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised you would say that. But I
Speaker 2: can draw a distinction for you between the Palestinian children
Speaker 2: just like they were German chillildren killed during World War Two?
Speaker 2: Should have we allowed the Nazi death camps to continue
Speaker 2: and say we can't go fight Germany because because we
Speaker 2: may kill some German, we should not bomb dressed. It
Speaker 2: is that what you're saying, Allison.
Speaker 3: Really well, they shouldn't should have bomb dressed and that
Speaker 3: was this, that was ridiculous. It was almost the Ether War,
Speaker 3: and it was No, they shouldn't.
Speaker 5: Have, but that should have.
Speaker 2: We should have. We should have we said, look, let Hitler.
Speaker 3: Alone, because if we have death camps, if anybody has
Speaker 3: death camps, it's you know, it's the it's the Israeli's
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, because the way they treat the Palestinians.
Speaker 3: But I just wanted to try to talk about this. No,
Speaker 3: what word what what part of the word illegal? Do
Speaker 3: you not understand? I mean, they've come here, they've been
Speaker 3: here for a long time, they've had four more kids
Speaker 3: since they've been here, apparently, and and they're supposed to
Speaker 3: get everything handed to them. Okay, you know, right, I
Speaker 3: think that should.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not suggesting that. So, so you're in
Speaker 2: favor of deporting the ten year old American kid, the
Speaker 2: American citizen child who has brain cancer, you're.
Speaker 3: In favor, yes, exactly, Yeah, all right, I'm amazed. I oh,
Speaker 3: because it's ridiculous birthright citizenship, which was never intended as
Speaker 3: you will know, it was intended about sell your plays
Speaker 3: after the Civil War.
Speaker 2: That's what the law is, right now. So you're you're
Speaker 2: with Trump, baby, So just so I understand this, you're
Speaker 2: with Trump or you're with Trump on eliminating birthright citizenship
Speaker 2: because they just want to keep this in mind the
Speaker 2: next time you call okay, fair enough. So, so you
Speaker 2: want to deport all the illegals, even the ten year
Speaker 2: old kid with brain cancer. What you're concerned about the
Speaker 2: Palestinian kids and gods?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there are thousands of mean killed, thousands of
Speaker 3: thousands almost for you know, between forty five and fifty
Speaker 3: thousand Palestinians, and you.
Speaker 2: Know why they were you know how their lives could
Speaker 2: have been spared if the crazy people had not gone
Speaker 2: in and slaughtered Israeli men, women, children, and babies. On
Speaker 2: October seventh, that's how they live.
Speaker 3: Tens of thousands of civilians because certain because a certain
Speaker 3: number of hundreds of extremist terrorists did something, they'refore killed
Speaker 3: tens of.
Speaker 2: That's okay, yep, it's okay with me, It's okay with you.
Speaker 2: Because Israel, Israel has a right to defend itself. Israel
Speaker 2: has a right. Israel has a right to defend itself,
Speaker 2: and they are trying to get rid of Hamas. Hamas,
Speaker 2: by the way, which was elected by the Palestinians in Gaza,
Speaker 2: and they made this horrific mistake because once the Hamas
Speaker 2: was in control where they were elected in two thousand
Speaker 2: and six, there's never been another election in Gaza. So
Speaker 2: you know, I think the people in Gaza also have
Speaker 2: a little bit of responsibility for what they've allowed Hamas
Speaker 2: to fester into. Alison, I got a scoot. As always,
Speaker 2: it's great to hear your voice. I enjoy our conversations
Speaker 2: even though we disagree, and I appreciate you calling. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much. Have a great night. I love it
Speaker 2: when they hang out, I really do. That's that's that's
Speaker 2: what we're dealing with in America. Folks. Back on Nightside,
Speaker 2: right after this. Now back to Dan Ray live from
Speaker 2: the Window World.
Speaker 3: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Folks, I want to run the table here. The lines
Speaker 2: are full. I want everybody to give me a quick response.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a couple of minutes. I'd like to
Speaker 2: get five callers in. Let's see what we can do.
Speaker 2: Tony and Natick. Tony, you're next on Nightside. Appreciate your calling.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Tony, Thank you.
Speaker 8: Dandre Alison is a tough act to follow.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, yes, there's no question about go ahead,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 8: I know you want to get into birthright citizenship, but
Speaker 8: I just want you're trained as a lawyer. I just
Speaker 8: want to use the doctrine of sending everybody back under
Speaker 8: the uh fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine. And uh,
Speaker 8: I'll let you explain that to everybody else.
Speaker 2: How was that, well, I'm not sure how you would
Speaker 2: apply it to birthright citizenship. Obviously, the fruit of the
Speaker 2: poisonous tree argument legally refers to evidence in a criminal
Speaker 2: case which is obtained illegally, which may lead you to
Speaker 2: other evidence which inculpates a defendant if the original evidence
Speaker 2: was obtained illegally. Any evidence that follows from that illegally
Speaker 2: obtained evidence is considered fruit of a poisonous tree and
Speaker 2: cannot be used against the defendant.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I analogize that with the tree being the
Speaker 8: womb of the illegal alien, and an any of the
Speaker 8: fruit that he gets from the womb is the illegal fruit.
Speaker 2: Well again, well, we have birthright citizenship that says if
Speaker 2: you are born here, you're an American. Now, I might
Speaker 2: say to you, hey, there can be an argument. I
Speaker 2: don't think that when day fourteenth Amendment was passed in
Speaker 2: eighteen sixty seven that people were thinking about a birthright
Speaker 2: citizen and ship mills in China which fly people over
Speaker 2: here in supersonic jets, which were never even anticipated by
Speaker 2: the Senators in eighteen sixty seven or by the justices
Speaker 2: in eighteen ninety six, when I think the case was last,
Speaker 2: whether the issue was last looked at. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean my question is I want to focus. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're a Trump supporter or not, but irrespective,
Speaker 2: they should bring this girl back and get her whatever
Speaker 2: treatment she needs. She's an American citizen under the law.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, absolutely, and I hope within seventy two hours it'll
Speaker 8: be resolved.
Speaker 2: Well, let us cry. Definitely, Thanks Tony. I appreciate it
Speaker 2: very much. We'll talk soon. Have a great night. Let
Speaker 2: me keep rolling. You're going to go to Lee and
Speaker 2: Needham Lee you in next on Nightsig go right ahead, they.
Speaker 9: Have to go on again. I see here from you.
Speaker 9: I did a couple of quick things. I just wanted
Speaker 9: to say.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 9: Does that just come out today or tomorrow on the news.
Speaker 2: No, it came out a few days ago. I think
Speaker 2: NBC or the local NBC of affiliate broke the case.
Speaker 9: And yeah, that's okay. It was just yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 9: it's not something today.
Speaker 2: It's been around for a few days. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 9: So I was just wondering why it's taken so long
Speaker 9: to come out if it happened, you know a while back.
Speaker 2: Well, it came out of my show because I just
Speaker 2: heard about it, but earlier, actually late last night, I
Speaker 2: heard about it, and I felt.
Speaker 9: My thoughts are and I'm a Trump person, very glad
Speaker 9: that he's in. You know, he's doing a lot, he's
Speaker 9: got his lot on his plate. Through are going to
Speaker 9: be mistakes that are going to happen. You keep going
Speaker 9: Trump Trump, Trump, Trump, But isn't this the agent and
Speaker 9: his superior. Yes, keep working that out. But you're you're
Speaker 9: not saying that you're going Trump Trump Trump, Trump, Trump,
Speaker 9: Trump's talking.
Speaker 2: Well, what I'm saying, sure, NodD. What I will say
Speaker 2: to you is this, excuse me?
Speaker 9: Can I just you know, put footing on on hold
Speaker 9: for a minute and I'll discuss this with you. That's
Speaker 9: why he has people work looking for him. And if
Speaker 9: he knew, if he heard about it, there's no way
Speaker 9: that he wouldn't take care of it.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm doing this.
Speaker 9: What these two news stations that you were listening to,
Speaker 9: they must be quiet on this station. They just wanted
Speaker 9: to dump on Trump again. And I really believe that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So my question to you is if he called
Speaker 2: you tonight, If the President called you and said, Lee,
Speaker 2: I heard you on the radio with Dan Ray last
Speaker 2: last night. He called you tomorrow, what should I do
Speaker 2: about this kid? Should I bring this kid back from
Speaker 2: Mexico or leaver there? What should What would you tell him?
Speaker 9: Well, he wouldn't ask me, and two he would do.
Speaker 2: It good enough. Okay, Thanks, Lee, appreciate your call. Next
Speaker 2: up is Bill and Easton. Bill, You're next the nights
Speaker 2: I go right ahead.
Speaker 6: Tough case. You know, so the parents are all illegal
Speaker 6: being deported, Yes, sir, they weren't. They're trying to keep
Speaker 6: the family, Sam was trying to be kept together.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
Speaker 3: Hmm.
Speaker 6: Tough, tough decision.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's an easy decision. I think you
Speaker 2: say to them, we're going to give you an exception
Speaker 2: for a period of time until your daughter against your
Speaker 2: medical treatment. Maybe we can turn around, since they have
Speaker 2: four kids, young kids who are American citizens, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe we can come up with some way in which
Speaker 2: they can have a specific this. This should always be
Speaker 2: an exception to any rule. And if this becomes widely known,
Speaker 2: I think that Donald Trump's effort to do the right
Speaker 2: thing is going to be undermined because this is going
Speaker 2: to be used by.
Speaker 7: The radicals who are going to say, well, see, first
Speaker 7: you get rid of the tread to Daragua at MS thirteen,
Speaker 7: and now we're getting rid of kids with brain cancer
Speaker 7: who are American.
Speaker 2: Citizens at are ten years old. This is going to
Speaker 2: undercut him politically, don't you see that.
Speaker 6: No, No, just a cold fair enough okay, and the
Speaker 6: good people all the time.
Speaker 2: Good enough, okay, thank you very much for your for
Speaker 2: your compassion. I appreciate it. Thanks Bill, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2: Let me go next real quickly, Bill rather, Matt and brighton. Matt,
Speaker 2: you gotta be quick for me. Go ahead.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 10: I'm right there with you. Dan, have the girl come
Speaker 10: over there. I understand the element of the parents being illegal. Uh.
Speaker 10: Trump is a compassionate person, even go down to the
Speaker 10: point of having a surrogate go with the child if
Speaker 10: it can be the parents can't be there. If who
Speaker 10: want to be back cold hearted.
Speaker 6: Let the citizen.
Speaker 10: Get that help, get that thing out of her brain,
Speaker 10: and let her live a healthy wife.
Speaker 2: And that's absolutely yeah. Again, she's an American citizen. Matt.
Speaker 2: Great job, Thank you much. You save me some time.
Speaker 2: I have to persons a nut job, no problem. We
Speaker 2: don't attack other callers on night side. You know that,
Speaker 2: Matt that I owe you a call. I want to
Speaker 2: do what we talked about earlier this week. I will,
Speaker 2: I will. It's been a really crazy week. Okay, Christine,
Speaker 2: you got final word tonight, Christine, go right ahead.
Speaker 11: I think they should keep them together. It's not right,
Speaker 11: it's not fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we can we can we can be
Speaker 2: we can be tough, but at the same time, we
Speaker 2: can we can be they can be exceptions.
Speaker 11: So am I feelings just right that those the better
Speaker 11: spoiler better spoiler gangs that they put are they if
Speaker 11: they can't go book can't set them all back. They're
Speaker 11: going to be kept in the American jail. That is
Speaker 11: that what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: No, no, they're They're in the custody of Al Salvador.
Speaker 2: At this point. The judge can rule whatever he wants,
Speaker 2: the that his ruling is not going to be recognized
Speaker 2: by the President of Al Salvador. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no. In my opinion, I think the judges out
Speaker 2: over here skis on this one, and we'll see how
Speaker 2: it plays out at the Supreme Court.
Speaker 11: Okay, Christine, thanks to be kept together. That should be done.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. Thanks Christine, talking.
Speaker 11: Son, Okay, all right.
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