1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Welcome, all you chad Nerds, all you space boys on 2 00:00:10,839 --> 00:00:17,160 the Planet's sois what's up? A lot of SaaS talking 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,199 today on the internet, a lot of Sassin and as 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,920 you know, when we got SaaS talkers, I always open 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:30,000 it up to give the SaaS an opportunity to come 6 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:32,520 and make their case, to explain to us why we 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:41,200 should believe in whatever the position is, whether it's Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, Calvinism. 8 00:00:41,359 --> 00:00:43,960 Today is not about atheism. So we're not talking tag 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,240 and atheism. If you're calling about tag and atheism, I'm 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:53,159 immediately going to skip you. We're not talking about random 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,119 obscure topics. None of that is the topic today. The 12 00:00:56,159 --> 00:01:04,200 topics are actually communiately listed for you, Catholicism, Protestantism, libertarianism, 13 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:13,439 black hebil Israelites, arianism, Job's witnesses, Muslims, Unitarians, Mormons may 14 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:20,159 all call in gnostics. Those are all acceptable topics. Basically, 15 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:23,519 we're not talking tag and we're not talking atheism. We 16 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,799 want to see if we can focus on getting the Protestants, 17 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:32,000 the cults, the sex the groups, the Unitarians, and even 18 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,000 of course the Roman Catholics. Because I'm more and more 19 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,799 convinced that the best description for Roman Catholicism is actually 20 00:01:37,799 --> 00:01:42,959 a cult. It is an irrational cult that enslaves its 21 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,120 people to a religion of dead works, lacking the power thereof, 22 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:57,319 as Paul says, focusing their people on ridiculous superstitions, apparitions, 23 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:02,760 visions fatima when they evitably encounter the theological contradictions that 24 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,719 exist in the religion that are quite fundamental. For example, 25 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,039 the top Roman Catholic apologists and people were surprised that 26 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,120 I said the top. I said tap because as far 27 00:02:14,159 --> 00:02:20,319 as I'm aware, he has the large audience following namesake 28 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Catholic apologist. I mean, we could say Matt Frad has 29 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,719 a larger channel. But Matt Frad doesn't engage in a 30 00:02:26,759 --> 00:02:31,639 lot of apologetics. He basically sits back, interviews people, and 31 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:38,080 talks in his ridiculous Australian accent. Oh yee only freed 32 00:02:41,159 --> 00:02:46,800 unlocked kways, I'm an all Australian. I'm just being silly. 33 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:52,039 I do impressions of everybody. I know that Romancolics get 34 00:02:52,080 --> 00:03:01,680 their feelings hurt when I do that impression. But we 35 00:03:01,719 --> 00:03:08,240 had another doubling down. If you recall some months back, 36 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,840 I mentioned the word triad in passing, and Trent Horne 37 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:23,360 assumed as the original tweet shows that he thought this 38 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:28,599 meant something to do with arianism. I said that you know, 39 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,240 in our debate you were incorrect by misunderstanding the fact 40 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,520 that Abraham worshiped of the Trinity. Trent thought this was 41 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:39,960 mind blowing. How no natural theology teaches me that they 42 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,439 worshiped a Unitarian God in the Old Testament. And then 43 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:46,360 he says, I asked if they knew that God was 44 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,879 a trinity, Jewish multiplicity in the Godhead could be akin 45 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,479 to proto arianism. No. In fact, the very point of 46 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,400 why would argue that the Old Testament teaches the triad 47 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,560 is to prove that they were trinitarian Trent. So, as 48 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:04,599 you can see, his initial reply is quite literally a 49 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:08,919 fundamental misunderstanding of the basics that every orthodox Christian knows 50 00:04:08,919 --> 00:04:11,039 by looking at the ruble of Icon that the Old 51 00:04:11,039 --> 00:04:17,319 Testament saints worshiped the Triad. And Trent says, you even 52 00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:20,519 had to use the word triad to describe it, but 53 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:23,480 you would say that modern people that worship triad as 54 00:04:23,519 --> 00:04:26,399 in Jehovah's witnesses are not worshiping the once true God. 55 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,639 So notice that very clearly Trent didn't even understand the 56 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:36,240 very common terminology amongst the Greek fathers, the Byzantine theologians, 57 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:42,399 the very theologians who dogmatized and solidified and explicated the Trinity, Cappadocians, 58 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,040 Saint Maximus, et cetera. For Trent, he thinks this is 59 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:54,839 somehow bound up with Arianism, even though Trent attended, according 60 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,240 to his own description, for many years, or presumably for 61 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:03,319 many years, the Eastern Rite. The Eastern Right hails Palomas 62 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:06,160 as a saint, which actually makes no sense given the 63 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,720 fact that he was considered a damnable heretic for many centuries. 64 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,160 And to notice that the most famous work that he 65 00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:18,199 has is called the Triads. A simple search would tell 66 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,399 you that amongst the Orthodox world, Triad refers to Trinity. 67 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:30,680 Now what does Trent simply say, Oh, I misunderstood, you're correct. No, 68 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:35,600 he doubles down, because it shows that he's not even 69 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:40,199 familiar with basic terminology in the very fathers that dogmatize 70 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:47,399 the Trinity. Doubles down and says, no, uh, this is 71 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:55,079 an Egyptian term. What the word can be synonymous with trinity. 72 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,279 But it's more common as a grouping of deities. Look 73 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:04,839 at the nineteen ninety six egypt Ptology book from John Griffith. Now, 74 00:06:04,879 --> 00:06:07,439 the more common use is not something that from an 75 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,600 obscure Egyptologist Trent. The more common use is what you 76 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:14,560 should know from the Uniate world in the Orthodox world 77 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:23,519 of triad meaning trinity. This is just silly. Now Trent 78 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:34,120 doubles down again and says that Old Testament Jews did 79 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:42,480 not worship the Trinity. He says it right here, did 80 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,560 the faithful Jews who live before christ incarnation worship God? 81 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,120 If they did, then they must have worshiped the same 82 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,040 God or the Trinity of the Christians. Even though they 83 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,680 didn't worship. Trent does not believe that the Old Testament 84 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,000 saints worship the triad, even though Jesus and John five 85 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:03,759 through nine says that they worshiped the Father, his Angel, 86 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,600 and his Spirit. So Trent doesn't even know that the 87 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:09,680 Old Testament teaches the triad. Now. I pointed this out 88 00:07:10,879 --> 00:07:13,040 in at the time of the debate, and after we 89 00:07:13,079 --> 00:07:18,879 had our debate, and Trent and other people tried to 90 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,720 save face and tried to do damage control. He didn't 91 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:27,759 mean that. He didn't mean that he says right here, 92 00:07:28,279 --> 00:07:33,519 literally a few seconds ago, that they didn't believe in 93 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:43,639 the Trinity. So do you understand that Roman Catholics do 94 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:46,800 not understand the Trinity? And I don't mean in terms 95 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:53,279 of an intellectual comprehension. I mean they fundamentally have ridiculous, 96 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:58,079 stupid theology. And in order to save face and defend 97 00:07:58,079 --> 00:08:02,439 his natural theology, all of vaticant use no stratat Trent 98 00:08:02,519 --> 00:08:06,240 is literally saying that they believed in a Unitarian God, 99 00:08:06,439 --> 00:08:10,720 the very thing that I said was the problem in 100 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:15,000 the debate. Trent still thinks that the Old Testament people 101 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:21,839 believed in a Unitarian God and not the Triad. So 102 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,240 this refutes all of the Roman Catholic liars that sat 103 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:30,360 here saying that that's not what true means. Why do 104 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:33,559 Roman Clics feel the need to lie? And how could 105 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,159 you be this silly in your theology to be so 106 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,240 ignorant of the Old Testament? Again proving my point in 107 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,639 the debate that how would you argue against a Muslim? 108 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:49,559 Do you not understand that to debate any Muslim requires 109 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,000 going to the Old Testament to prove the Trinity. I 110 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,159 even showed a video that was my opening statement in 111 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,440 the day on Hookikachu debate to Trent, which apparently he 112 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:09,279 hasn't watch because it refutes his stupid heresy in Acts seventeen, 113 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,360 in no way says that they worshiped a Unitarian god. 114 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:15,600 It's just like this guy is on another planet and 115 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,279 doesn't even understand what the debate is. And now the 116 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:24,840 libertarian says he can't hop on. Dude, I sent you 117 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:26,759 the link. There's no reason why you can't hop on 118 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,039 this debate. It's an open chat. You wanted to debate. 119 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:32,879 Now you're saying he can't get on here. Give me 120 00:09:32,879 --> 00:09:38,360 a break. Here you are you hopped on here? Now, 121 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:46,799 where's the actual video? I want you? I hope you 122 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:50,600 guys understand that this means that Roman Catholics don't have 123 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,720 the basics of the Trinity. I'm pretty sure that Trinity 124 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:58,840 is a pretty important doctrine. And you just saw Trent 125 00:09:58,919 --> 00:10:01,639 say that in the tw that he just put up 126 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,440 the very thing that all of his defenders were saying 127 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:10,759 he didn't mean. He says it again. Now, let's remind 128 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,240 ourselves of a few moments of the debate with Daniel Haikikachu, 129 00:10:16,759 --> 00:10:20,759 because it turns out Trent and Daniel have the same God, 130 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:26,360 the Unitarian generic God of natural theism. Now, I know 131 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,679 that Trent would confess to believe in the Trinity and 132 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,559 the deed of Christ, but he doesn't understand that he's 133 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,120 got two conflicting, contradictory positions in his worldview. And he 134 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,200 doubled and tripled down in the last hour on Twitter 135 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,519 on this. So I repeat again, did the Old Testament 136 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,320 saints worship a generic Unitarian deity, the very thing that 137 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,080 Trent and Romcathosis Nostra Tate and Trent just now within 138 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,320 the last five minutes reaffirmed, or do they worship the 139 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,000 triad as every Orthodox person knows. You're saying that this 140 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,960 is fundamental to us, and they're still wandering around, groping 141 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:03,120 in the dark like the Pagans of Act seventeen, not 142 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,159 understanding that it's a triad in the very beginning, because 143 00:11:07,159 --> 00:11:10,960 their theology is all jacked up and dumb. That's why. 144 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,840 Because they're in a giant machine that they have to 145 00:11:14,879 --> 00:11:18,799 make all of these pieces work and make this giant 146 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,120 algorithm that's a giant bunch of contradictions fit together, and 147 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:26,200 they don't. They don't even know what recapitulation is they 148 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:33,320 don't even know what monarchical trinitarianism is when it's fundamental orthodoxy. 149 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,879 So let's go back to how we would argue with 150 00:11:38,039 --> 00:11:44,000 a Muslim to refute to Trent where the Old Testament 151 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:52,120 Jews generic unitarians. Let's look at Jewish scholarship explaining to 152 00:11:52,240 --> 00:12:00,679 us what they believe. Surprise is that the Old Testament trinitarian, 153 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:06,200 They were not unitarian. Judaism specifically in the Second Temple 154 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,600 period was not a monolithic unitarian enterprise. The question becomes, 155 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,879 what are the teachings of the prophets in the Old Testament? 156 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,000 Did they actually teach as Islam says, a radical unitarianism 157 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,039 or is it something more fluid or is there differentiation 158 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:27,879 in Yahweh. In fact, modern Jewish scholarship unanimously is undecided 159 00:12:27,919 --> 00:12:30,480 on this question. There's a lot of Jewish scholarship that 160 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,519 is listed here. For example, Daniel boy Lauren later I 161 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,840 have Summer and I have a Siegel, and they admit 162 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:41,799 that in the Old Testament itself, not due to Christian deviation, 163 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,080 but in the Old Testament itself we find many, many 164 00:12:45,159 --> 00:12:51,200 passages that show differentiation in Yahueh that differentiation is not 165 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,240 just located in rabbinic debates. It also continues into later 166 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:57,279 medieval debates with Jewish cabbal law, and you could see there. 167 00:12:57,279 --> 00:13:00,279 For example, Gursham Scholam in his book on Kabala, he's 168 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,919 the respected cabalist theologian of the Middle Ages or a 169 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,559 scholar of medieval kabbala. He points out, for example, to 170 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:11,480 beat three beginningless lights that are mentioned. Now, I'm not 171 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:14,360 a cobbalist. I'm just pointing out that this shows that 172 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,200 the Jewish tradition is not monolithic in its presentation. So 173 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:21,759 I'd like to come back then to my screen to 174 00:13:21,879 --> 00:13:25,519 me here and point out that the first display of 175 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:28,759 Trinitarian theology in the law of the Prophets is for example, 176 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:31,840 here on this whiteboard. And I'm showing this whiteboard because 177 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,120 hopefully guys can see this. This is a tremendous amount 178 00:13:36,159 --> 00:13:39,240 of texts. Now, this list of texts that you see 179 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:43,399 me post. If you've read Justin Martyr against Trifle, the 180 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,639 jew is trent even aware that Justin martr argues from 181 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,879 the Old Testament Theophanes to prove the deity of Christ, 182 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,679 and his attempt at proving triad It's like Trent's never 183 00:13:56,759 --> 00:13:59,399 talked to a Muslim or never read these church fathers. 184 00:13:59,399 --> 00:14:01,639 Oh but wait a minute. Trent didn't know what the 185 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,559 word triad meant. He thought it was a pagan, anti 186 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:08,919 Trinitarian term when it's constantly used in the Eastern Church fathers. 187 00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:12,320 So now Trent is doubling down, as we said, tripling 188 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,200 down that the Old Testament saints did not worship the Trinity. 189 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:21,600 They worshiped a Unitarian God. Has he never read John 190 00:14:21,639 --> 00:14:25,279 five through nine? Has he not read Second Corinthians three, 191 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:29,039 where Paul says that Moses looked face to face with Jesus. 192 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,399 If no man sees the Father at any time, as 193 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Jesus argues in John to the Pharisees and John five, 194 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,200 then who was Moses talking to? This is the point 195 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,320 of Jesus' argument to the Pharisees. I don't think Trent 196 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,320 knows the Bible very well at all, and particularly not 197 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,559 the Old Testament at all. I think Trent knows a 198 00:14:49,559 --> 00:14:54,039 lot of pop apologetics, because remember Trent was not too 199 00:14:54,039 --> 00:14:59,279 long ago a Deist who converted to Roman Catholicism, And 200 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,639 so I don't think Trent knows the Trinity. I think 201 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:04,759 he just accepts that the papacy got all this right, 202 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,799 and that's why most of his debates are cultural issues 203 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,120 or the papacy. I mean, maybe he's debated other topics. 204 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,080 I don't know. I don't follow these paper Roman Catholic 205 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:26,279 apologists because they're typically pretty low tier. But I mean, 206 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,519 this is just sort of mind blowing to me. The 207 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,360 I mean, what do we just talk about? Last night? 208 00:15:32,559 --> 00:15:36,360 We spent how many we spent the first hour talking 209 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:42,039 about Old Testament predictions of the Messiah, and when the 210 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,759 Muslim called in, we started to go into various texts 211 00:15:44,759 --> 00:15:48,879 in Isaiah, and as I mentioned, there are more than 212 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:52,039 you would you could even imagine in Isaiah. If you 213 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,200 haven't read Isaiah in a long time. It's called the 214 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,440 Fifth Gospel for a reason, Trent. Why would it be 215 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,840 called the Fifth Gospel if the Old Testament teaches a 216 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:08,279 Unitarian God. Why is the Messiah said to be worshiped. 217 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:14,200 Why does it talk about Yahweh, his Son, his Angel, 218 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:21,720 his covenant messinger, and his spirit all the way back 219 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:24,600 in Genesis? Do you understand that Genesis teaches the triad? 220 00:16:24,679 --> 00:16:28,200 Do you understand that when Tripho is against Justin martyr. 221 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,799 Justin Marter keeps arguing from Genesis and other passages to 222 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,519 prove that who do you think Jacob was wrestling with. 223 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:41,200 It's like these people have never read the Bible or something. Bah. 224 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:43,559 But wait a minute, if we're talking about Roman Catholics, 225 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,120 that's actually fairly plausible. Outside of someone like Scott Hand, 226 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:50,519 I'm starting to think that maybe they don't actually read 227 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:53,720 the book. It's a closed book to them, as Paul says, 228 00:16:53,759 --> 00:16:55,559 it's a closed book to the Jews and Second Corintha. 229 00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:58,799 It's the very passage where it says Moses was talking 230 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,480 face to face with Christ, that the Jews have the 231 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:05,880 veil over their heart. It's almost like Roman Catholics and 232 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,720 Muslims have the veil over their heart. Yeah, because they're facts, 233 00:17:09,759 --> 00:17:13,960 similar fake religions. That's why they're religions of dead works 234 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:22,759 without the power thereof. And I'm just citing these because 235 00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:26,160 there's too many to fit on a single screen there 236 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,759 with typing it all out. You can screenshot this later 237 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:32,839 and go check the various textual references here for just 238 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:36,559 examples of Theophanes. And the reason I included that Theophanes 239 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,240 is that these are particularly useful for demonstrating the manifestation 240 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,319 of Yahweh in the Old Testament, proving differentiation. So not 241 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,599 just Yahweh, but also the angel Messenger that he sends, 242 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,599 who has the name of Yahweh as a root in Exodus, 243 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,559 the same angel that's present in the Burning Bush. That 244 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,680 angel is spoken of as the Messenger of the Covenant. 245 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,359 He's spoken of as and judges turning the face of 246 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:08,640 towards Gideon. Yahweh turns his face to Gideon. So are 247 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:14,599 you noticing a pattern that the refutation of Muslims is 248 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,640 becoming the refutation of the Roman Catholics Because Trent's actually, 249 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:25,400 in a backwards way, back doorway correct that actually you 250 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,680 and the Muslim and the Jew do worship the same God, 251 00:18:28,039 --> 00:18:34,160 because it's the wrong God. So Roman Catholics, Muslims, and 252 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:39,880 Jews actually do worship the same Unitarian God, and that's 253 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:45,720 the wrong one. So actually, Trent, in a roundabout way, 254 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:49,680 is actually correct. And why does he say that? Because 255 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,720 that's the basis of his church's dogmatic teaching and knows 256 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:58,000 Ratat And he doesn't even realize that sighting Acts seventeen 257 00:18:58,039 --> 00:19:02,079 doesn't prove this romas one doesn't prove this, he's just 258 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,440 assuming that Acts seventeen and Romans one teach natural theology 259 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,400 when Romans one doesn't say anything about syllogisms and a 260 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,960 ratiocination process about syllogisms and coming to some conclusion at 261 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,839 the end of a bunch of syllogisms about a generic 262 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,759 god existing Romans one says that it's on the heart 263 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:23,599 of every man. It doesn't say anything about intellectual syllogisms. 264 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,200 It's not talking about natural theology in your ridiculous churches. 265 00:19:28,279 --> 00:19:36,519 Since but Trent knows he has to defend no Strette 266 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,920 saying that he and the Hindu and all of them 267 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,720 are the same God. Isn't that interesting? The Hindu also 268 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,359 is part of this natural theology process, and he thinks 269 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,279 Acts seventeen backs this up. All Acts seventeen says is 270 00:19:54,319 --> 00:19:58,759 that God is the one giving these providential gifts to everyone, 271 00:19:58,839 --> 00:20:02,000 and yet he is unknown. The very point of the 272 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:06,519 passage is that the God that they're after is unknown 273 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:09,920 to them, and yet Trent is telling me no. Actually, 274 00:20:10,519 --> 00:20:13,279 at the end of a rational process, the pagan can 275 00:20:13,319 --> 00:20:15,440 reason out and come to at the end of a syllogism, 276 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,359 how many pagans are sitting there doing syllogisms outside of Aristotle. 277 00:20:19,599 --> 00:20:24,440 Let's be real here, Come on, this is this is preposterous. 278 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:37,039 And even his own people, his own cohorts, whom he's 279 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:41,680 had debates with, are falling out like tim and recognizing, Hey, 280 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,240 wait a minute. The Roman Catholic Church's post Vatican two 281 00:20:44,319 --> 00:20:47,119 teaching on the Jews is a direct contradiction to the 282 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,960 pre Vatican two teaching on the Jews. Yeah, exactly. But 283 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,240 it's also a contradiction when it comes to Muslims and 284 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:58,200 Hindus too. You don't see that the Catholic Church regards 285 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,640 with esteem the Muslims. Oh, you mean the ones that 286 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,160 you called crusades against in the Middle Ages. You esteem them. 287 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,480 They adore the one God. What is the one God 288 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,359 that shared between a Muslim and a Roman Catholic When 289 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,599 every Muslim will tell you that we don't worship the 290 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:23,160 same God as you. There is no generic unity that 291 00:21:23,279 --> 00:21:26,279 is shared amongst an anti Trinitarian group and a Satanic 292 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:32,559 group and a Monotheistic group. If I believe that Satan 293 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,160 is the creator of heaven and earth, and that he 294 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,319 lives in subsistem in himself, am I then also esteemed 295 00:21:39,319 --> 00:21:41,920 by the Catholic Church with the Muslims. Do you see 296 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:48,359 how stupid this is? And then it goes on to say, 297 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:51,920 although they don't revere Jesus as God, they revere him 298 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,640 as a prophet. Oh so anti Trinitarians. So now we 299 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:02,599 can substitute Younomians and Arians and Jehovah's witnesses the Church 300 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,839 regards with esteem. The Arians does it because I'm pretty 301 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:10,039 sure at Nicia it calls Arius the mouth of Satan. 302 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,400 So now we regard Arius as the mouth of Satan, 303 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:21,640 I mean, as a true worshiper of the One God. 304 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,000 Do you understand Muslims are more removed than Arians are 305 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:36,000 from Christianity. There are multiple attributes that Muslims don't believe in. 306 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,079 They do not believe that God is imminent in the world, 307 00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:40,480 and maybe even some Roman Calolicies don't believe that. Who knows. 308 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,960 I mean, this whole Roman Catholic system is a gigantic mess. 309 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,559 And you've noticed they won't come in debate anymore. All 310 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:50,599 they're left with is why I'm a bad person. That's 311 00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:52,640 all they've had for the last seven years is how 312 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:59,480 I'm a bad person. And yet they keep expanding in 313 00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:03,839 their carbohydrate intake. Have you noticed that Abara and Lafton 314 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,559 are looking even fluffier. Well, I guess when the religion 315 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:14,839 is no help, you take solace in the buffet and 316 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:27,400 then dainties and pastries. But it's not just Muslims. Oh. 317 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:33,160 Whereas the Roman Catholic Church formerly talked very negatively in 318 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,599 its liturgical practices about Jews, now they're the older brothers 319 00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:55,599 and they're part of the Covenant. That doesn't make any sense. 320 00:23:55,759 --> 00:24:04,319 That's a contradiction to previous traditional Romanians Catholic teaching. Now 321 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:09,759 where's the Hindu statement? Yeah? Now, remember this is not 322 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:15,400 saying that Hindus seek out and have a natural desire 323 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:17,200 for the One True God, because we could say that 324 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,279 all human beings have an innate desire for God, because 325 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:25,200 we all have a news. This says that in Hinduism, 326 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:30,160 in other words, in the false religious system, the demonic 327 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,160 system of Hinduism. And if you read Father Sir from 328 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,519 Ross Orthodox in the Religion in the Future, you can 329 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,720 see very clearly that from the Christian perspective, this is 330 00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:46,559 a horrendous, terrible, demonic religion. Does Vatican two say that 331 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,319 it doesn't mention anything about it being demonic. It says 332 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:55,720 in Hinduism, men contemplate the divine mystery and express it 333 00:24:55,759 --> 00:25:00,559 through anexhaustible abundance of myths. They seek freedom from the 334 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:06,640 anguish of human condition through ascetical practices or a profound meditation, 335 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,920 or flight to God with love and trust, God with 336 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,680 a capital G. Did you read the first sentence in 337 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:20,319 Hinduism In a completely demonic religion, Paul says that the 338 00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:23,000 gods of the nations are devils. David says, the gods 339 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:25,920 of the nations are devils. There's no better example of 340 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:34,279 this than Hinduism. Vatican two says in Hinduism they seek 341 00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:40,119 a flight to capital G God with love and trust. 342 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,559 And then it says similar things about Buddhism. The deities 343 00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:56,200 of Hinduism and Buddhism are not the triad. They are 344 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:03,319 not secretly Jesus. If Jesus has a way to reach 345 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,839 those people, he can do that. But it is not 346 00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:10,880 the demonic system of Hinduism or of Buddhism. That is 347 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,000 the means by which they reach God. And that's the 348 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:21,119 bizarrow language of Vatican two. And it's not just no 349 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,680 sra tat the same stuff is said in lumin gentm. Sixteen, 350 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,319 because these liars will always sit here and say, well, 351 00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:32,200 we don't have to accept no state because it doesn't 352 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,920 have the same level of authority as the other documents. 353 00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:39,039 You got to accept them all. And what a ridiculous 354 00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:41,880 system anyway, because it doesn't even tell you which documents 355 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,519 are which Every individual Roman Catholic gts to figure out 356 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:55,880 which documents are in which authority been The Plan of 357 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,680 Salvation includes those who acknowledge the Creator. Okay, what does 358 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,000 that mean? Does that mean I only have to acknowledge 359 00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:05,240 a generic idea of a creator like a freemason does 360 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,839 or a theistic Satanist. The first amongst these is the 361 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,559 Muslims who hold the faith of Abraham. No, you don't 362 00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:16,200 hold the faith of Abraham if you're anti trinitarian, have 363 00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:19,039 you regulations? The only way to be the seed of 364 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:23,720 Abraham is in Christ because Abraham worshiped the triad. Did 365 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:31,960 you hear me, Trent? Muslims worship and adore the one God. No, 366 00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:36,279 Muslims do not adore God. You understand, adoration is worship. 367 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,079 So this implies that God accepts the worship of anti 368 00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:47,839 trinitarian groups like Muslims. Muslims hate the Triad. They hate 369 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,440 Christ because they don't believe that He is dead, divine, 370 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,920 and John says, if you don't believe that Christ is 371 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,119 God in the flesh, you are a spirit of Antichrist. 372 00:27:57,559 --> 00:27:59,359 So this is saying that people who have the spirit 373 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,400 of Antichrist motivating them to stamp out Christianity and the 374 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,599 Trinity and the deed of Christ are part of the 375 00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:09,920 plan of salvation also actually worship Christ. This is preposterous. 376 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:13,160 This alone is enough to tell you that this is 377 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,119 not the true religion. This is a departure from Christianity. 378 00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:20,000 And Trent and all the other frauds are defending this, 379 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:22,440 and they will keep doubling down and doubling down and 380 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,759 doubling down, because to admit that they're wrong on this 381 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,599 means this whole system collapses. And Roman Catholicism is a 382 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,680 giant cult and they cannot accept that it is this blatant, 383 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,839 this out in the open, and this fraudulent, and it 384 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,000 is because it's in everyone's face. This is why they 385 00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:43,880 act so they act out. So this is why they 386 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,240 spurg out. This is why they lose it. This is 387 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,400 why they're calling you names and everything in the book. 388 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,920 It's all a manifestation of the deep down insecurity and 389 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,200 fear that they know about out their papacy and what 390 00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:04,920 it does and how it acts and how deceptive it is. 391 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:24,799 Now on top of this, we had, we had Francis, 392 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,880 let's say, if there's anything else in this, uh yeah, 393 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,680 let's talk about Let's talk a little bit about this, 394 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:38,559 and then we'll go back to the point about Francis's 395 00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:43,599 skittles comment, which I'm sorry that people can't figure out 396 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,240 that Francis throws a bone to the traads about once 397 00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:49,640 every few years and then he immediately walks it back. 398 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,400 He's done this the entire time. By the way, all 399 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,880 the post Vatican two popes have done this same, very 400 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,440 this very same thing, where they charge forward with two 401 00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:05,079 or three years of absolutely scandalous rebellious behavior and then 402 00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:08,400 they walk it back two steps. You walk ten steps 403 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:14,599 and walk back two steps. It's a very common Overton window. 404 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,440 You know, it's a methodology, it's a technique of bureaucracy 405 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,640 and control, and then you throw a bone to the 406 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,960 trads to keep them on the leash, and they all 407 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,799 fall for it. All these people fall for it because 408 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:35,359 they're naive and their dupes, and so Francis says skittle stuff, 409 00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:43,119 promotes skittles civil unions openly everywhere, and then says, supposedly, oh, 410 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,759 but we don't want f in the seminaries. Oh, by 411 00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:48,319 the way, did he do anything about it? Or do 412 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:53,440 you just say something? Because the entire trad Catholic Twitter 413 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:57,319 world is championing this like this is some great achievement. 414 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,279 All your showing is your own a foolish because he 415 00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:06,359 can talk all day long and throw you a bone 416 00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:09,839 all day long, nothing changes. He's not doing anything. He 417 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,880 could reform these seminaries. He has the total plenary authority 418 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,920 of the Roman bishop, universal authority. He could actually communicate 419 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,759 all of these airing bishops in one stroke of a pen. 420 00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:26,759 He doesn't do any of that. He throws you dummies 421 00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:29,599 a bone and you eat it up, and then tomorrow 422 00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:31,960 he'd be back to the revolution. And it wasn't even 423 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,319 twenty four hours before he walked it back and cucked 424 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:39,359 his comments, as Luigi showed on his Twitter. So, by 425 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,160 the way, as soon as I put up my tweet, 426 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,640 I said, how long cow down to Francis apologizing for 427 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,880 his comment. It wasn't even twenty four hours. I didn't 428 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,319 even get to put my tweet up it our he 429 00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:55,400 was already apologizing for I could even make a joke later, 430 00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:57,119 or we can go back to any of those and 431 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,079 so let me go back to my screen share here 432 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,680 and points out that the triad there. I don't mean 433 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,680 to argue either, that the Old Testament explicitly uses the 434 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,960 word the words triad. Know all this necessary, as the 435 00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:16,279 Jewish ost scholars are admitting, is that the Old Testament 436 00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:19,319 believers spoke of Father. Yeah, I have to address this 437 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,519 because this is such a basic argument. That's so dumb. Okay, 438 00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:27,319 it doesn't matter if the Old Testament saints use the 439 00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:30,480 word triad or not. It does they don't have to 440 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:33,839 use the word trinity. Okay, you understand whether it's the 441 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,960 Aphilis or whether it's Tertullian using the word trinity in 442 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,799 one Okay, we wouldn't be so stupid as to say 443 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:45,920 that nobody believed in the Trinity until Theophilis or Tertullian 444 00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:49,559 uses the word trinity. Okay, do you understand how dumb 445 00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:54,880 that is? When Justin Marter argues for the Trinity, he 446 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,240 uses the Old Testament text that means he's arguing that 447 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,240 the Old Testament he's the Trinity. They don't have to 448 00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:02,920 use the word t just like when you translate the 449 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,000 Gospel into into it, you don't have to use the 450 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,200 word trinity, use whatever the Inuit word is for that. 451 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,000 This is so dumb, and I can't believe somebody as 452 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:14,359 intelligent as Trent, who is intelligent, is that he can't 453 00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:17,920 get this, or that he doubles down on these foolish 454 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,559 mistakes is bizarre to me, which tells me this is 455 00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:24,640 a cult. Tell me what the difference is between Roman 456 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,400 Catholicism and a giant cult. I don't see it. And 457 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,200 once Father Moses said that the other day, I'm like, 458 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,640 you know what, this is a giant cult. And they 459 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,680 all act like total cult leaders, I mean cult believers, 460 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,079 I should say, because they freak out and foam at 461 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:43,599 the mouth and lose it when you start bringing this 462 00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:48,319 stuff up Angel of the Lord or Son of Man 463 00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:51,480 and the Spirit in a real distinctive way. And they 464 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,279 do although I mean imagine using the New Testament to 465 00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:58,440 prove the Trinity and then trying to say that nobody 466 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,920 knows the Trinity until the word is used, or until nicea. 467 00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,519 Do you understand how stupid that is. If we're using 468 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:10,079 the New Testament to prove the doctrine of the Trinity, 469 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,800 then it means the New Testament teaches the Trinity and 470 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,000 the Old Testament. This is so dumb. I can't believe 471 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,559 anybody would make this dumb of an argument. And by 472 00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,880 the way, it's actually the argument that Muslims make. 473 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:29,079 Speaker 2: Muslims say trinity, not use to Totrian Totoian use word trinity, invented, 474 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:35,280 invented trinity, invented, Niceah, trinity. You're using the Muslim argument, Trent? 475 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,519 Why are you people following these people? What is wrong 476 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,320 with you people? How are you so deluded? How are 477 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,880 you so confused. 478 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: To follow? You have no discernment at all. You don't 479 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,719 have a discernment to figure out the people pushing stabby 480 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,960 for years. Why would you trust their discernment on this stuff? 481 00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:03,960 I just I'm mouthful. I can't understand what it is 482 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000 about you people that you find attractive about this stuff. 483 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:14,480 Are you that low tier in your argumentation? What do 484 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,920 you mean you people? I mean you people in the 485 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,800 audience that follow Trent and Matt Frad and carbohydrate Lofton like, 486 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,360 how are you that loads? Heer? I just I can't understand. 487 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,320 Help me understand. Come on the chat, please, please come 488 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,840 on and help me understand. What is so convincing in 489 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,519 these uber load tier Muslim level arguments from people like 490 00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:39,000 Trent Horn. I can't understand it. Help me understand. Please, 491 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,239 you don't see how low tier this is. I mean, 492 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,960 I know a bunch of you have watched Sam Schimun debate. 493 00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:57,159 And when Sam Chimun debates, where does he prove the 494 00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,280 Trinity from? When he's debating the Muslims and the Jews 495 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:07,360 and the Unitarians the Old Testament? And here's Trent telling 496 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,960 you that, no, Jews didn't worship the Trinity in the 497 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:22,719 Old Testament, the Old Testament, Saints worshiped a generic deity. 498 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,599 Here's another Roman Catholic at least admitting that Trent is 499 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,280 way off base. I'm Roman Catholic, and Jay is right. 500 00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:32,039 I don't understand what Trent is doing. Trent can't admit 501 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,880 he's wrong, And because admit that he's wrong on something 502 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:43,320 so fundamental exposes that Trent basically doesn't know fundamental theology. 503 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,079 This is embarrassing for a Roman Catholic theologian, an apologist. 504 00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:53,840 Do you see what he says right here? Faithful Jews? 505 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,280 Did they worship God before Christ? He says they did, 506 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,840 but not the Trinity. There is no God but Trinity. 507 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,440 So Trent triples down on the very mistake that I 508 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:14,440 called out in the debate. Trent is a Muslim. He's 509 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,199 making all the arguments Muslims make. Do you know how 510 00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:20,280 many times I've had Muslims? Last night, the Muslim they 511 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,960 called in. What did he say? 512 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:26,559 Speaker 2: Oh? The Jews not worship Trinity, don't believe in Trinity, 513 00:37:26,599 --> 00:37:28,679 and book don't see Trinity. 514 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: Oh well, okay, I guess that settles it. Trent Al Horn, 515 00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:43,840 Shake trent Al Horn, follow the great son of Thomas 516 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:51,559 al Suma al Abu Aquinas just I mean, I'm just 517 00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:58,440 going I'm gonna start calling him shake Trent Horn, what 518 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:09,199 tree shaik Trent. That's when they start singing the Koran. 519 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,880 You know they're gonna have They're gonna like the like 520 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,159 the she has they sing the songs to Ali Ali 521 00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:22,679 and they're gonna start singing to Trent, to Abu trent 522 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:39,480 a Bu anyway, I don't know. So we're gonna open 523 00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:50,000 it up. Somebody said pearl Is in Trent's harum. That's funny. 524 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,159 Ali and trent O