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<v Speaker 1>We're classified as a C tier for now. But these

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<v Speaker 1>are the two things that came up. This person was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about something they had heard and were told to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this means they were told directly

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<v Speaker 1>by any Mushetti or they were just like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>game of telephone. So that's why we're setting this up right.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have heard some things about the merge and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>so this comes down to braving the Bull DC and Paramount.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a trending tweet, which again this was a

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<v Speaker 1>made up. If people see this account called Chaos Crave,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a fake account. It's not even happening because they

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<v Speaker 1>were spending a rumor that Michael Johnston, the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>was the main lead and obsession, that he was in

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<v Speaker 1>Negotians to play night Wing for Brave and Bold. That

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<v Speaker 1>that's not true. All this account just makes it up

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. But this person said, I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea if it's true or false. I'm assuming it's definitely false.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did hear from but this is what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>I did hear from Muschetti that all the work on

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<v Speaker 1>Braving the Bull is on her hold until after the

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<v Speaker 1>merger is settled. And then someone kind of asked for

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<v Speaker 1>more details, and then he said, I suspect what it's

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<v Speaker 1>likely is that Mushetti himself doesn't know if he's moving

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<v Speaker 1>don't Brain the Bowlt until after the mergers finalizes. But

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<v Speaker 1>he also doesn't also mention if it doesn't pan out

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<v Speaker 1>him directing the film, he'll just move on to another film.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't seem worried. So, Taylor, what do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about like, because we've kind of thought about this with

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<v Speaker 1>shows like Oustie last week we got Jimmy Olsen versus

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever the people versus Gorilla Grod that's announced, but

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't work. There seems to be we've heard some

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<v Speaker 1>scuttle but that some of these other projects might not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get green like we don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>full capability. It sounds like something with the merger is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe stopping DC from green lighting some projects right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now we have clay Face coming out, then we've

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<v Speaker 1>got Mannet tomorrow, and for films wise, we have The Batman,

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<v Speaker 1>which isn't the DC, but it's still like a DC

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<v Speaker 1>film right it's going on, and then for TV shows

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<v Speaker 1>we got Creature Commandos, Mister Miracle and something that the

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<v Speaker 1>animated stuff and the groad Show. I just I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I pose this question to you? Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you hmm? Do you think it's Do you think, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the best way the merger's happening. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>any shit if let's say this story is true, right

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<v Speaker 1>he told this guy who's like a reporter right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's say he told him. Do you think he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying that just because he they can't literally announce anything

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<v Speaker 1>like Hey, we want to get this merger settled and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna start going on one or on Batman,

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<v Speaker 1>these big projects. Or do you think it's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if All Mama's filmed, because after the merger things

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<v Speaker 1>could change. Do you think it's like we're just holding

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<v Speaker 1>stuff up for money wise, or it's a I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what direction paramount he's gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's absolutely direction. I really do. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think someone could have said something like if the

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<v Speaker 2>merger goes through. I think someone probably was loose about it, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>why are we doing another Batman movie with a whole

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<v Speaker 2>other story when we've already got a Batman already in play?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that could be one of the topics of conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's someone even from Paramount through into the into the

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<v Speaker 2>meeting room, right, And I get it. It makes it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. Why would you start up another Batman thing

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<v Speaker 2>when you've already got a Batman up and running, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean that you have to look they were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have done both at the same time, but

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<v Speaker 2>clearly one got put on hold. It's funny because before,

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<v Speaker 2>like before the merger, any of those discussions, James Gunn

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<v Speaker 2>was leading the charge and it was like, Okay, Batman

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<v Speaker 2>Part two is gonna come, but it's been delayed, delayed, delayed,

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<v Speaker 2>Da da da dad. But then the bowl is announced.

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<v Speaker 2>You know this we're gonna be working on. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>our Batman. Da da da da da. And now okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's been put on hold, and Pattison's Batman is in

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<v Speaker 2>the works, it's running, it's being made right now. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that's kind of funny. And if if

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't the case, then yeah, you'd have both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I really strongly do think it comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>someone preferring just we've already got established Batman, let's stick

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<v Speaker 2>with it. It's already this is how much money you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's making, Like, let's just stick with this one, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But then what do you do with the So in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation, what do you do if Man Timore's a

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<v Speaker 1>hit and the DCUs still go on? Because right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Lantern's fifth biggest HBO was show and the numbers are good,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd say most reviews like, obviously some fans of problem,

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<v Speaker 1>let's well.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the thing turn into a TV show then, But no.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, you can't put Batman on TV after Supergirl.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I feel like someone's looking at that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's people in suits. They You can say

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<v Speaker 2>the popularity of Batman versus Supergirl that you can make

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<v Speaker 2>a case for it, sure, but the people in suits

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<v Speaker 2>don't see that. They see money. And when you have

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<v Speaker 2>a DC hero on the big screen it making very

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<v Speaker 2>bad money, then I think that's gonna set the tone

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<v Speaker 2>for Okay, this is what we can expect, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>unless we're kind of look at it like, hey, this

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<v Speaker 2>is our spider Man. This is gonna be a two

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollar movie. But I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens if for the budget Clay faces a hit

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<v Speaker 1>and then One Man of Tomorrow's hit. What if? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it set this up for you because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've kept up on this. What happens was they

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to trial. I can't remember what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like, oh, they could get approved not

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, well, we got to do a trial

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<v Speaker 1>to figure it out. That doesn't happen till March twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, so like, and that's where the trial starts.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think it's going to be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>second week of March they got control of WB But

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's say, for just to make it easy for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, the tro Go is great for Paramount and

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<v Speaker 1>like March twenty twenty seven, it's it's confirmed, locked and loaded,

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<v Speaker 1>you're good to go there. So that would mean March,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what April, May, June, July Manitomorro is only

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<v Speaker 1>four months away, so you're not really gonna do anything then.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's say you get to Mana Tomorrow and let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you have Superman, Clay Face and Man Tomorrow are hits.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're talking about the suits. But what if three

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<v Speaker 1>out of the four movies they've done our hits? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you do then? With like cause like you're saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like you gotta keep you maybe don't do the Batman.

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<v Speaker 1>But at that point, sure, but Batman two is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a hit. But if Paramunt gets it and the like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, keep the DCU going, We're actually happy

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<v Speaker 1>with this. That's fine. If they do that, then what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do with Batman? Because you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>have a Batman eventually, right with Justice League and all

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<v Speaker 1>the team ups and everything, So you can't and if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not passing, you have to do that at some point, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then I would say twenty eight remember yet, think

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe they just have Braving the Bold on hold

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<v Speaker 2>until after that because they see how much a Batman

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<v Speaker 2>movie makes in theaters post COVID and everything. Right, I

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<v Speaker 2>think and see use this as a template and if

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<v Speaker 2>this character makes a lot of money, then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and do Braving the Bold.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yeah, I get I get. So you say,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Batman makes a lot of money, they're just like,

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<v Speaker 1>we can have you another Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's that's there, that's kind of their feeler,

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<v Speaker 2>that's their their test.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you because I saw this going around when

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<v Speaker 1>the story was going, and I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel about this. How would you feel if Passed and

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<v Speaker 1>did both?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that would mean that it is part of the DCU, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, you know, not necessarily, not necessarily right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what like they're I'm trying to think of. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like in the remember when they started Daredevil and at

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<v Speaker 1>first it was gonna be like, oh, Charlie Cox is

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<v Speaker 1>playing a new version of Daredevil, but then they put

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<v Speaker 1>the Netflix on nudi in some people have said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what if you do that where this is like the

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<v Speaker 1>early years of Batman. I don't like it at all,

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<v Speaker 1>really because I don't want like that Joker and that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff going on there, But like, would you be fine

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<v Speaker 1>of Passing played like a completely different Batman but he's

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<v Speaker 1>still playing like he's playing two different versions of Batman

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<v Speaker 1>and different movies. I think there's no way that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he does.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless Reeves is really cool with it for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, sure that sounds good. But here's the

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<v Speaker 1>before I give my thoughts, Cloud says a full reboot.

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<v Speaker 1>So Terry, let's say again that situe situation right where

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<v Speaker 1>you said Okay, they get it. They're a little iffy.

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<v Speaker 1>Superman's a hit, but let's say super Bowl as he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do well, clay Face is fine man and Timorrow

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<v Speaker 1>does like fine to me. And let's say Gun's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they do a full reboot again where

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna go, we're gonna start over and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get a new Superman, green lantern everything like that, or

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<v Speaker 1>even without James gunn do they just push forward with

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<v Speaker 1>what would you that situation?

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<v Speaker 2>And don't then vision thing. I think they'll look at

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<v Speaker 2>James gun and think, okay, we got to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>move this guy off, you know, the table a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>He's coming to these meetings. You know, she's she can't

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<v Speaker 2>take any constructive criticism, keeps wanting to have all these

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<v Speaker 2>sex scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the first one they bring out. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a dashboard and they're like the sex scene with wives

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<v Speaker 1>and talking animals, jokes, and he's in the meeting like

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<v Speaker 1>one at a time. Please. It was so great. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta share to you guys, but Pansy could. She became

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<v Speaker 1>a patron producer, which I didn't plug. Everyone go join

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<v Speaker 1>early episodes. You can vote on all the polls we do,

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<v Speaker 1>content polls for suffered next year, for this year, like

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<v Speaker 1>it lots of suff flowing. But she was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>our original episode from January before Lestatt came out, and

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<v Speaker 1>I say one at a time, in like in a

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<v Speaker 1>loud way. It's in the first five minutes. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>shry guy that thread later. But for me, it is

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<v Speaker 1>the gun vision, Like there's only like if they get

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<v Speaker 1>To me, there's only two things you do. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a football thing where we like the players, but

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<v Speaker 1>we want a new coach. Gun you're out, someone's in. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You could argue though they kind of did that after

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<v Speaker 1>and it didn't really an aquaman. It didn't really work

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<v Speaker 1>out for them the whole, like just carrying on the

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<v Speaker 1>same universe with a new coach that didn't work. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, you do that or what I've said before,

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<v Speaker 1>you just go back to now. And I know DC

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<v Speaker 1>fans might hate this. From now on, every movie's like

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<v Speaker 1>The Batman, where it's a one off. It's like the Batman,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Joker. There's no more connected universe. Because I do

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<v Speaker 1>think if they were to let's say, let's say Man

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<v Speaker 1>Dark Night Rise is like, Okay, we're gonna start a

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<v Speaker 1>new universe. I don't think the audience would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong. I guess Matt Reeves like sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>get made. But I'll say this within the next within

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<v Speaker 1>the ten years here, I don't know if the audience

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't think you can like for a universe.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you can get New Superman, sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>is they're one shot for now. You can always do

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<v Speaker 1>even saying Gun should lose his position yet. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's some questionable things going on now. But I've always said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta wait till manatonmore. You gotta see that, because

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<v Speaker 1>if that does hit, you can't take them out of

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<v Speaker 1>the chair because then it's like, okay, well the main

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<v Speaker 1>piece of the universe is working right. And for the

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<v Speaker 1>end of Muschetti thing, I think it's a bit of both.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet it is like, hey, we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go like anything a big budget because we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a universe where and paramount with the else

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the richest people. Maybe when they make

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<v Speaker 1>that Batman movie, they make it for a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>money with the with the merged right where if it's

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<v Speaker 1>just WB maybe they're like, well, we've got to really

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<v Speaker 1>Like maybe at Paramount they could say, hey, you could

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<v Speaker 1>make Batman and two other DC movies, where if it's

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<v Speaker 1>just Warner Bros. They say, hey, you can only make

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<v Speaker 1>Brain and Bowl this year, like you only go like

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<v Speaker 1>Latin next year is only we've only had one DC. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we've got clay Face, right, but with Superman

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<v Speaker 1>and then Superman two next year, that's two DC films

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<v Speaker 1>or two years we're just one DC movie. That's it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just one live action one. So it could I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's that where it is money, where it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we do gotta wait. But I do think it is

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<v Speaker 1>and not even Mouchete. I think just in general I've

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<v Speaker 1>said that. I even think there's a chance Gun could

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<v Speaker 1>people we don't. We have no idea how meetings are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go. They can meet He can meet with these

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<v Speaker 1>els and people and be like fuck man, like we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really job at all, Like this is not gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go and make gardens for I'm gonna do whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like and same thing with them. They could be like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, even with Manatmore being a hit. They

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<v Speaker 1>could be like, we don't like these movies, or we

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<v Speaker 1>don't like how Gun's working, you know. At the end,

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<v Speaker 1>they too could also be like we don't like each other,

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<v Speaker 1>but if hey, you're gonna pay me and I'm making

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<v Speaker 1>you money, that's cool. We really don't know, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is more the direction as far as they

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know, Like again, people like we've talked about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but like we should talk about this more. James Gunns

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<v Speaker 1>contracts up next year, it's not been renewed, so even

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<v Speaker 1>to me, if like we don't know if James Gun's

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<v Speaker 1>going past twenty twenty seven, no wonder why Andy would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I don't fucking know if I'm freckding Batman,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he'd like if if the guy that hired you

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<v Speaker 1>to get the job, and I think we've all had this,

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<v Speaker 1>if you work at a job and you got hired

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<v Speaker 1>by somebody, but that person either leaves and gets fired,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they if you like them in your go

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<v Speaker 1>to person, it's like, Okay, I'm dealing with a new boss,

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<v Speaker 1>which sometimes can go good, but then sometimes like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that back and forth, you don't have the history,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like, okay, same thing. Let's say Gun gets

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<v Speaker 1>gone and Andy's still there and they bring in some

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<v Speaker 1>other guy right offusly Big Dan Linz at Netflix. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's say they bring him back and now Andy has

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<v Speaker 1>to go to him, and that doesn't work. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's that because Gun, we don't even know about Gun,

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<v Speaker 1>so why would we know about Andy. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>means what brain The Bowl probably wouldn't even be till

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty nine the earliest. Now they're Batman, because it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be let's say the Court if it goes well, the merger,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to go well, but for them

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<v Speaker 1>it goes well, merger settles in March, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>make a movie, so it's gonna take a whole year.

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<v Speaker 1>They're never gonna put the two Batman movies out in

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<v Speaker 1>the same year, right because now The Batman's out in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty eight, So yeah, we're looking at at least

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<v Speaker 1>three years till we get the Batman movie. I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that does heighten the chance so that Batman could

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<v Speaker 1>be in the DCU, just not the movie. I do

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<v Speaker 1>think he could be in Man of Tomorrow or something else,

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<v Speaker 1>because if gun looks at us, say, hey, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>make a Batman movie till three years, let's at least

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<v Speaker 1>introduce him somewhere, you know, so we'll see. It sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not that Actually, I won't even say it sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine it sucks for people excited we got the

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<v Speaker 1>Batman too. I'm seeing these set photos. That's all I need.

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<v Speaker 1>that going on? So anything else to add on this?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I got nothing to add Yeah, so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a long time again March. So what's that now?

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<v Speaker 1>We're in August, so September, October, November, December, January, February, March.

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<v Speaker 1>We still got seven months before this is all gonna

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<v Speaker 1>could be even more. That trial could go on for

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<v Speaker 1>months too, but like seven months up in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what's going on. So we will see.

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<v Speaker 1>So we will be back next week for episode three.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out the feeds. We've got tons of good stuff

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<v Speaker 1>going on this week. The Golden Geys episode, a Weekly

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<v Speaker 1>Geek episode, great Patreon content. I mean, Dylan gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>talking some GTA this week, Big Juicy GIV week. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end episode, got the fucking hiccups. I promise you

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<v Speaker 1>it'll not be boring by