WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:03.879 Streaming live. 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:07.160 I mean, iHeartRadio Whip. This is I on the Ball 3 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:12.080 with Steve Roberta and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. 4 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:15.119 Hey, welcome back to win the ball here on Fox 5 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:18.440 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roberta. He's and the Lopez 6 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:22.600 with me today and Ryan's had some breaking news. This 7 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:23.679 is I on the. 8 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:27.559 Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 9 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:32.240 I start a little bit of news out of University 10 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:36.000 of Arizona. Former kicker Nick Folk set a record last night. 11 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:38.719 He became the oldest kicker in the NFL history to 12 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:41.960 make three field goals from fifty yards or plus. 13 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:43.880 He's with who he's with? 14 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:44.359 Titans? 15 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:46.719 Okay, okay, I don't even I probably knew that, but 16 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:50.079 yeah they won. They beat Miami, right, they beat Miami. 17 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:52.359 How old is he? Thirty nine? Thirty nine? 18 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:52.640 Yeah? 19 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:57.280 I remembers here. Yeah, I was coaching here. I remember 20 00:00:57.280 --> 00:00:59.280 well who the thought right too? He was pretty good here. 21 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:02.640 But you know, when you're that all, you're out. You're 22 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:05.760 out and joining your life. Yeah. I think I read 23 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:08.760 an article he's like seventeenth or sixteenth all time scoring 24 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:13.359 and uh the goals. Okay, yeah, good for him. Raiders 25 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:17.879 are open to trading Davonte Adams for a second round 26 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:19.640 draft pick and additional compensation. 27 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:23.640 Source. Oh yeah, and he's a good one obviously. Yeah, 28 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:26.920 they probably Miami could use him. They need receiver. They well, 29 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:27.560 they need a quarterback. 30 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:29.000 Ye I was going to say play quarterback. 31 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:31.719 Yeah, you need throw it to himself. I mistaken, right, 32 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:32.480 you're right. 33 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:36.319 Well, if he goes to the Dallas could use him Dallas, Yeah, 34 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.200 I mean Jets, Jets would be pretty good. 35 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:39.599 Oh yeah, but do. 36 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:40.159 You have a team. 37 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:44.920 No, No, I just like to look at abilities players. 38 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:47.280 Oh I was I'll ask you that later because I 39 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.560 asked the coaches. How do you watch a game? How 40 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:51.000 do you watch a game? Do you watch the game 41 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:52.239 or do you watch people? 42 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:53.959 I like watching players. 43 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:56.439 Just if they've done do things right, I would yeah. 44 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:59.359 I like watching that receiver for the for the Vikings. 45 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.239 Right now, thinking with Jefferson, I think yeah, oh man, 46 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:05.239 I love watching him right now. I like watching Sam Darnold. 47 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.159 I mean I just like watching like players play. 48 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:10.120 Well you know, and. 49 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:12.439 Yeah, yeah, okay. 50 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.800 Von Miller has been suspended in four games for violating 51 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:17.960 conduct policy. 52 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:20.719 Did they say what it is? Is it team policy? 53 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:24.800 Or I just said he's violating the NFL's personal contact policy. Okay, 54 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:32.719 he must must do something, Okay. MLB playoffs have begun today. 55 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.879 Tigers silence fi Astros today three to one. Derek Scooble's 56 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:41.520 six shut Because kid, it was from Kingman. 57 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:44.280 Okay, okay, I had no offers out of high school, 58 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.879 went to Seattle University, made himself a player. 59 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:48.879 You see in baseball. You see that a lot. 60 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:51.919 Oh yeah, yeah, that's why I said, tell players all 61 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.319 the time, Hey, phil is relaxed. If you're good, they'll 62 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:57.039 find you. I say that all the team in Arizona. 63 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.680 I say that all the time. There's a few that 64 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.199 don't make it. But you're there's no doubt in rhyme mind, 65 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:03.360 You're you're exactly right. 66 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:05.240 Think of his yeah, think of his path to the 67 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.039 big leagues and what he's gonna win the cy young 68 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:10.280 I think he's the top, right, and your score tells 69 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:11.919 me he probably went six or seven innes today. 70 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:13.319 There you go. 71 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:16.520 Okay, So King in Arizona's to Seattle University. 72 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:18.800 This is this is what peeps me coach, and I 73 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:20.199 see it all the time because I've done it for 74 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.280 a long time. Okay, So game happens. The guys come 75 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.080 in in the press room and the first thing they 76 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.800 do is read the stats. Read the stats. You know, 77 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.240 what did I get? What did I do that hasn't 78 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:34.719 been anything? If you're not if and there, you know, 79 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.400 with the objective of having great stats, right, with the 80 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.000 objective of going to the next level, because the NBA 81 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.960 people love stats. No, you don't, because if you're good enough, 82 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:44.680 guess what they'll find you. 83 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:46.479 Oh yeah, without a doubt. 84 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.280 I'm here with They're not gonna say, extend went zero 85 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:51.319 for three or zero for four in consecutive days and 86 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.800 you just can't hit. It's a it's a process. 87 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.159 So so they find this young guy King Mi in Arizona. 88 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:59.240 Well he goes to Seattle, so but still he's from 89 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.759 king in Arizona. And there's a guy named Johnny Bench 90 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:06.039 that I remember being a pretty good catcher from Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. 91 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:08.080 I remember his novel. I wrote it. I read about 92 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:09.280 it when I was like eight years old. 93 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:11.479 Yeah, so I used to tell my players off, Hey, guys, 94 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:13.319 don't work. If you're good, they'll find you. 95 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:13.639 Yeah. 96 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:18.680 The Royals beat the Orioles when nothing and the pictures doing. 97 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:20.879 Oh man, so's say that. 98 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:26.439 Again, the Royals Orioles one of them postseason, Man, that's it. 99 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:30.199 Yeah, but then you gotta get a offensive game. Right 100 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:31.959 now between the Mets and the Brewers. It's four to 101 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.199 four in the. 102 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.519 Okay, yeah, are you timing back? Guy? 103 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:37.920 I know Tory. 104 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:41.240 Oh, Tory's UCLA Tory Lavallo and so I know I'm 105 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:41.839 known to over. 106 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:45.040 There's a lot of heat on him. Well there's well, 107 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:48.639 because he's a decent job. He's yeah, you know, decent. 108 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:53.519 Get you fired, coaches, you can't be decent in this world. 109 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:54.319 I guess you're right. 110 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:57.040 I mean he's come on the nationallygue West is a 111 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:58.000 pretty vision. 112 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.519 Yeah, people, I mean people on the thing that I 113 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:02.800 have in front of me, this computer thing. You could 114 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.480 be very vicious being dearly, you know that. 115 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:08.560 Gosh, I feel man, I have to give Tori a call. Yeah. 116 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:11.720 Well one of my colleagues here in Phoenix said he 117 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:13.959 needs to go. Oh man, he just went to the 118 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:16.199 World Series. Yes, that's that's. 119 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:18.040 My point is I mean I texted him last year, Hey, 120 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.399 great job you got into the wild card. 121 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:22.519 Hey we're lucky we're not on TV because we're as 122 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.199 good as the last haircut. 123 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:27.160 I'm getting one to the morrow, so I'll come back 124 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:30.839 after I hope you do, come okay, right. 125 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.279 And then the Brazen Padres will start later tonight. Well, 126 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:36.959 they're really doing this, I guess. Uh. Detroit just kind 127 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:39.480 of sweaks squeaked in too, didn't they into the playoffs? 128 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:41.040 They got hot at the end, and now they have 129 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.319 the best record in the last part of the season. 130 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:45.959 Rights seven times. I saw that, right, right. I haven't 131 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:47.759 paid too much, but I heard that. The good young players, 132 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:50.199 a lot of good young players. I think the oldest 133 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:51.560 guy on there was like twenty eight. 134 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:53.560 No, they're and you know what they and if you 135 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.439 look at them, you can see they're really interchangeable because 136 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.959 they're not in other words, they're very happy to be 137 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.399 where they're at. They're in the big leagues down there postseason, 138 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:04.519 so it's like, hey, I gotta sit tomorrow. That's okay, 139 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.319 I'll be ready for the next day, you know. And 140 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:09.040 that's probably not the case in a lot of those 141 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:10.040 big league rosters. 142 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:13.920 Sovan, I guess I had a domestic incident, was it. Yeah? 143 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:18.639 I won't say what it was, but it's domestic basketball powerhouse. 144 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:21.720 Gonzaga to join the PAC twelve for the twenty twenty 145 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:22.319 sixth season. 146 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:26.519 So you you brought that up earlier, coach, Uh, surprise, 147 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:28.720 now a surprise and I'll say what I say that 148 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:32.000 to you afterwards. Surprise surprise different. 149 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.680 Hey, listen, I grew up as a I was in 150 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:37.160 the six pack, you know. I played at UCLA in 151 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:40.240 the seventies and there were six of us, and then 152 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.160 to become the eight pack. Then it became this ten 153 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.040 power of the pack Pack ten. When I came to 154 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.959 Arizona's the pack ten then became the PAC twelve. You know, 155 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:50.959 all due respect to those guys, you know, Freso State, 156 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:55.680 Sannuel State, Boisse State, Gonzaga and Lors But I just can't. 157 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.040 I don't feel good when somebody says PAC twelve and 158 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:03.079 I I see, I see those schools in it. I go, 159 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:04.360 it's not the packed one. 160 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:06.279 It's not the PA. No, that's it. At the end 161 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.639 of the day, it's not the Pack twelve. It's the 162 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:12.319 Mount West with people. Come on, No, you know, my 163 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:14.560 son's in New Mexico. He's a Mount West kid, so 164 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:16.839 you know he's a coach there. So I'm all for it, 165 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:19.319 even even if they if you actually went into back twelve. 166 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:22.680 No, I tell my son, Hey, guess what, it's not 167 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:23.360 the Pack. 168 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:25.519 Exactly right. 169 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.319 No, I'm you know, and I'm the same thing to 170 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:31.120 someone this morning. I'm happy that they're I'm happy that 171 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:35.000 they're existing because in this world of television controlling everything 172 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:38.000 with money, you know, I'm glad you know it's sorting 173 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:38.600 itself out. 174 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:42.800 But this face fact, I've said, it's a lipstick on 175 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:46.680 a pig. Come on, Yes, you got the title. That's 176 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.439 how you got the pack. And it's not the PAC 177 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.160 twelve anymore that we knew it or how we know it. Right, No, 178 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:54.480 because they're somewhere else. 179 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:55.480 I don't know what it is. 180 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:59.560 You know, it's a college conference, and you know it's 181 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:01.439 it's good for those young guys, the place for them 182 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:03.560 to compete and play and move on if they get 183 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:04.839 a chance to move on professionally. 184 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:07.959 But that's not the Pack. No, I know, you're right. 185 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:10.759 That's just my opinion, and no cares. It's just one 186 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:14.079 man's opinion. But yeah, I understand what you say. So hey, 187 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:15.759 good for Gonzaga. 188 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:21.439 NHL is getting ready to open their CBA talks starting 189 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:26.199 twenty twenty five. One of the talking points is producing 190 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:29.959 preseason games and expanding the regular season, kind of like 191 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:34.559 the NFL is trying to do down the line. Yeah yeah, 192 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:36.679 I don't see if baseball ever does that with like 193 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.159 spring training, because oh yeah, I got a whole month 194 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:41.080 of spring training games and then what you. 195 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:41.879 Play for six months? 196 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:45.200 Yeah? Yeah at hl. 197 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.759 Odell Beckham is said to have his first practice with 198 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:50.480 the Dolphins. 199 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:55.159 But okay, that's yeah, welcome to the rescue. Right here 200 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.720 comes the rescue. You can play quarterback? Yeah, quarterback again? 201 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.360 Who is it? Hontley? Who's the Oh yeah he lost 202 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:05.039 last star. Yeah, well he didn't do it well enough 203 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:07.799 last night. It was a good game. The other game 204 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:12.000 was pretty good this Seattle and uh Detroit. Yeah, crazy 205 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:15.919 scoring game like those jerseys head Lions. Yeah, a new 206 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:19.240 helmet through a perfect game? Right, didn't Golf throw a 207 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.440 perfect game? Wasn't he like eighteen for eighteen? Oh he 208 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:22.399 did something? 209 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:25.600 Yeah, but I saw today he said he was eighteen 210 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.159 for eighteen. I went, I threw a perfect game last night, 211 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:28.879 my gosh. 212 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:30.240 And he had too. They had to score a lot 213 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.200 of points. Yeah, I look at it real quick, let 214 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:33.679 me see. 215 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:36.759 Yeah, but yeah, yeah, he was Golf was eighteen for 216 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:38.399 eighteen with two hundred nineteen yards. 217 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:39.360 I think the record is like. 218 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.200 Two touchdowns he had, so he had two more touchdowns 219 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.600 and he had incompletions. Yeah, that's a pretty good night, 220 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:49.960 right right, Yeah, that's all I got. 221 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.240 Okay, So there's the news that came out today, Tyler 222 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.559 Loop named Lou Groza Star of the Week. He's a 223 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:56.399 fantastic kicker. 224 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:58.240 Well he's good. Yeah, yeah, he's legit. 225 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:03.480 Yeah, he's something the team needs to save. How can 226 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:08.000 I say this, not say but to field positioned ball. 227 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:11.120 You know, I played high school football and then I 228 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:13.559 coached for five years in frost Off level at Meer 229 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:16.279 Coast at my high school. When I first started coaching life, 230 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:19.840 and I'll tell you what, man, I mean, the biggest 231 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:22.279 night from me was like run the field goal team 232 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:25.519 out there. It's like, oh God, why no, let's go 233 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:28.480 for it. And I worked at Florida when Steve Spurry 234 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.159 was there, and he he would refuse to punt and 235 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:31.720 field goal. 236 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:33.679 Like we're going for it, right you. No. I love 237 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:34.279 those coaches. 238 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:37.120 Yeah, but but if you've got a guy like our guys, yeah, 239 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:40.159 hey yeah you can kick from sixty Yeah, let's move 240 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:41.000 the ball, and so. 241 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.240 Let me let me ask you a question I've never 242 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.279 asked you, and I know my thoughts on this. What's 243 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.879 the most important position on a baseball field? 244 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:54.879 Well, I was a shortstop, so it has to be fantastically good. 245 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:57.960 Okay for me, it's a catcher. I was just gonna 246 00:10:58.039 --> 00:10:58.480 say that. 247 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:00.480 Yeah, I want to say it's a short out because 248 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:06.159 I was a short stop. But because everybody on the 249 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:11.200 defense sees him, so if he's sloppy and lazy and careless, 250 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:14.519 it kind of rubs off on a couple of resals. 251 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:15.399 I believe that. 252 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:19.600 I mean not everybody's intrinsically motivated. So if you've got 253 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:21.639 a left fielder that really likes to hit but doesn't 254 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.240 like to play the defense right, and he sees the 255 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.639 catcher on his knees all the time and flipping the 256 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:29.120 ball back and throwing it at the catchers at the 257 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:32.399 pitcher's feet, and it just sloppy, and you know, he 258 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:34.639 just sloppy. You know. I used to joke with some 259 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:36.960 of the guys that, well, I guess it wasn't a joke, Steve. 260 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:40.759 But when I had catchers, Ryan, when I had catchers 261 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:43.639 that wouldn't catch the ball on a consistent basis. I said, 262 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.519 you're no longer a catcher. You're a chaser. You know, 263 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:48.759 You're just all you do is chase. You chase the 264 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:49.519 ball behind you. 265 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:51.200 You need a catcher for kids. 266 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:56.000 But anyway, but everybody sees him and he can really 267 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:59.879 save you bound visits. In other words, you only have 268 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.000 a certain amount of mound visits. So if I've got 269 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:04.759 to go out in the first inning, I've already used them. 270 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:05.879 I don't want to use them in that. I don't 271 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:07.559 use that. I want to use that mountin visit in 272 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.519 the fifth and the Seventh's got to be smart, So 273 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:11.480 he's got to go out and he's got to know 274 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.759 what we've been talking about in the bullpen, about release point, 275 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.159 about making sure his arm is in the right slot, 276 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:19.600 making sure his grip isn't the right you know, he's 277 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:21.399 got to coach a little bit in terms of getting 278 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:23.759 these guys on track. So yeah, I always felt that 279 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:25.720 if we had a good catcher, we had a pretty 280 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:27.360 good chance of being successful. 281 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:30.000 Yeah, I would have said, that's a key position, your 282 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:36.159 shortstop position. So what position makes better coaches? I think 283 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:40.399 catchers really, yeah, really say shortstop? Well, I think the 284 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.360 smartest dudes on the field or second basement. 285 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.159 Now, I say this, I always said this that if 286 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:47.720 we don't have a good second basement, we don't have 287 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.039 a chance to win a national championship because because they 288 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.279 got to turn a big pivot in a big game, 289 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:55.639 in a big situation, they've got to turn a pivot 290 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.919 where a good second basement turns that pivot and gets 291 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:01.279 you out of the seventh inning a really close game, 292 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:05.720 and an average second baseman turns it and guess what, 293 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.600 the guy at first is safe. A good one turns 294 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.360 it and the guy first is out and you're off 295 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:11.720 the field. 296 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:14.960 Yeah, that makes sense, I think too. There's a lot 297 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.159 going up that going on up the middle. Yes, and 298 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.080 you have your shortstop who's kind of assumed he's the 299 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.519 good player, he's athletic, all that, but the second basement 300 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:25.720 is kind of underrated and he has to do almost 301 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:27.840 the same amount of things as the shortstop thing in 302 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:31.000 terms of okay, this situation, but baseball's. 303 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:32.960 I'll tell you the value of shortstop though, quite honestly, 304 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:34.519 if you look at for example, if you look at 305 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:38.639 the twenty twelve national championship team in Arizona, ready Seth 306 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:42.080 Maheus Breen was our third basement good player short stop 307 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:45.279 in high school. Alex Mheil was our shortstop shortstop in 308 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:48.440 high school. Trent Gilbert was our second basement short stop 309 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:53.399 in high school. Brandon Dixon was our first basement shortstop 310 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:56.919 in high school. Robert Restneider was our right fielder shorttop 311 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.279 in high school, and Johnny phil was our second, our 312 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:00.240 left fielder. 313 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:01.200 Shortstop in high school. 314 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:02.559 And you and you made the switch. 315 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:06.559 Oh yeah, let you tell them, come here and compete 316 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:10.080 for the shortstop position. Come here and compete. So tell 317 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:12.000 me if you're gonna be if you're best shortstop, and 318 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:15.559 you'll make it. But if you can't, we're gonna fit. 319 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:18.240 You in another sh And then how receptive were they? U? 320 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:20.840 Has this story been told? Are you sure not? 321 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:22.639 No? I was a big person. 322 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.480 Get as many shortstops as you can, really, yeah, because 323 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:28.240 they run the show defensively, and they're athletic and they 324 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:30.480 got arm strength and if they can swing it. 325 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:33.120 Robert Refsneyer, come on, yeah right. 326 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.440 Many people don't know this, but Robert Refsnuder was rafted 327 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.399 by the Yankees and they trying to make up second baseman. 328 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:40.559 I just talked to Robert two weeks ago, and and 329 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:44.240 he stopped. He stopped hitting because he was so mentally 330 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:47.519 screwed up trying to play second base. And when the 331 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:50.200 Boston got him and stuck him in the outfield, boom 332 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.320 he took off. They love him, They just love the guy. 333 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.399 But yeah, I used to tell guys, listen, I don't 334 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:57.759 I don't know if you can play shortstop, but if 335 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:00.159 you want to come here and compete to play shortstop, 336 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:02.720 we've always recruited this kid me here, we've already recued. 337 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.320 But here's me. But and they're gonna compete for that spot. 338 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:07.399 Sure, but if you want to come and compete, I'm 339 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:10.080 gonna let you compete, because you know what. All I 340 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:12.399 know is what I'm gonna see, And the game is 341 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:15.879 gonna tell me. And if you're honest, the game's gonna 342 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.879 tell you. Steve, if you say to me, coach, I'm 343 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:20.879 your best shore up, you know what, the game's gonna 344 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:23.360 tell us that. The game's gonna tell that. I don't 345 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:24.840 need somebody tell The game is gonna tell. 346 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:27.279 Did you have I'm sure you have guys leave because 347 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:31.200 of what Yeah, he's talking about. 348 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:30.919 All the time. 349 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:33.399 Yeah, yeah, that's but that's that's part of our life. 350 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:34.360 That's part of the fallout. 351 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:36.639 Yeah, we got about a minute. 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