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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to win the ball here on Fox
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Speaker 4: I start a little bit of news out of University
Speaker 4: of Arizona. Former kicker Nick Folk set a record last night.
Speaker 4: He became the oldest kicker in the NFL history to
Speaker 4: make three field goals from fifty yards or plus.
Speaker 3: He's with who he's with?
Speaker 4: Titans?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I don't even I probably knew that, but
Speaker 3: yeah they won. They beat Miami, right, they beat Miami.
Speaker 3: How old is he? Thirty nine? Thirty nine?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I remembers here. Yeah, I was coaching here. I remember
Speaker 6: well who the thought right too? He was pretty good here.
Speaker 6: But you know, when you're that all, you're out. You're
Speaker 6: out and joining your life. Yeah. I think I read
Speaker 6: an article he's like seventeenth or sixteenth all time scoring
Speaker 6: and uh the goals. Okay, yeah, good for him. Raiders
Speaker 6: are open to trading Davonte Adams for a second round
Speaker 6: draft pick and additional compensation.
Speaker 3: Source. Oh yeah, and he's a good one obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they probably Miami could use him. They need receiver. They well,
Speaker 3: they need a quarterback.
Speaker 7: Ye I was going to say play quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need throw it to himself. I mistaken, right,
Speaker 3: you're right.
Speaker 4: Well, if he goes to the Dallas could use him Dallas, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean Jets, Jets would be pretty good.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, but do.
Speaker 3: You have a team.
Speaker 6: No, No, I just like to look at abilities players.
Speaker 3: Oh I was I'll ask you that later because I
Speaker 3: asked the coaches. How do you watch a game? How
Speaker 3: do you watch a game? Do you watch the game
Speaker 3: or do you watch people?
Speaker 7: I like watching players.
Speaker 3: Just if they've done do things right, I would yeah.
Speaker 6: I like watching that receiver for the for the Vikings.
Speaker 6: Right now, thinking with Jefferson, I think yeah, oh man,
Speaker 6: I love watching him right now. I like watching Sam Darnold.
Speaker 6: I mean I just like watching like players play.
Speaker 7: Well you know, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: Von Miller has been suspended in four games for violating
Speaker 4: conduct policy.
Speaker 3: Did they say what it is? Is it team policy?
Speaker 4: Or I just said he's violating the NFL's personal contact policy. Okay,
Speaker 4: he must must do something, Okay. MLB playoffs have begun today.
Speaker 4: Tigers silence fi Astros today three to one. Derek Scooble's
Speaker 4: six shut Because kid, it was from Kingman.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I had no offers out of high school,
Speaker 6: went to Seattle University, made himself a player.
Speaker 3: You see in baseball. You see that a lot.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, that's why I said, tell players all
Speaker 6: the time, Hey, phil is relaxed. If you're good, they'll
Speaker 6: find you. I say that all the team in Arizona.
Speaker 3: I say that all the time. There's a few that
Speaker 3: don't make it. But you're there's no doubt in rhyme mind,
Speaker 3: You're you're exactly right.
Speaker 6: Think of his yeah, think of his path to the
Speaker 6: big leagues and what he's gonna win the cy young
Speaker 6: I think he's the top, right, and your score tells
Speaker 6: me he probably went six or seven innes today.
Speaker 7: There you go.
Speaker 6: Okay, So King in Arizona's to Seattle University.
Speaker 3: This is this is what peeps me coach, and I
Speaker 3: see it all the time because I've done it for
Speaker 3: a long time. Okay, So game happens. The guys come
Speaker 3: in in the press room and the first thing they
Speaker 3: do is read the stats. Read the stats. You know,
Speaker 3: what did I get? What did I do that hasn't
Speaker 3: been anything? If you're not if and there, you know,
Speaker 3: with the objective of having great stats, right, with the
Speaker 3: objective of going to the next level, because the NBA
Speaker 3: people love stats. No, you don't, because if you're good enough,
Speaker 3: guess what they'll find you.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 3: I'm here with They're not gonna say, extend went zero
Speaker 3: for three or zero for four in consecutive days and
Speaker 3: you just can't hit. It's a it's a process.
Speaker 6: So so they find this young guy King Mi in Arizona.
Speaker 6: Well he goes to Seattle, so but still he's from
Speaker 6: king in Arizona. And there's a guy named Johnny Bench
Speaker 6: that I remember being a pretty good catcher from Broken Arrow, Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: I remember his novel. I wrote it. I read about
Speaker 3: it when I was like eight years old.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I used to tell my players off, Hey, guys,
Speaker 6: don't work. If you're good, they'll find you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Royals beat the Orioles when nothing and the pictures doing.
Speaker 3: Oh man, so's say that.
Speaker 6: Again, the Royals Orioles one of them postseason, Man, that's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then you gotta get a offensive game. Right
Speaker 4: now between the Mets and the Brewers. It's four to
Speaker 4: four in the.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, are you timing back? Guy?
Speaker 7: I know Tory.
Speaker 6: Oh, Tory's UCLA Tory Lavallo and so I know I'm
Speaker 6: known to over.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of heat on him. Well there's well,
Speaker 3: because he's a decent job. He's yeah, you know, decent.
Speaker 3: Get you fired, coaches, you can't be decent in this world.
Speaker 7: I guess you're right.
Speaker 6: I mean he's come on the nationallygue West is a
Speaker 6: pretty vision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people, I mean people on the thing that I
Speaker 3: have in front of me, this computer thing. You could
Speaker 3: be very vicious being dearly, you know that.
Speaker 7: Gosh, I feel man, I have to give Tori a call. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well one of my colleagues here in Phoenix said he
Speaker 3: needs to go. Oh man, he just went to the
Speaker 3: World Series. Yes, that's that's.
Speaker 6: My point is I mean I texted him last year, Hey,
Speaker 6: great job you got into the wild card.
Speaker 3: Hey we're lucky we're not on TV because we're as
Speaker 3: good as the last haircut.
Speaker 6: I'm getting one to the morrow, so I'll come back
Speaker 6: after I hope you do, come okay, right.
Speaker 3: And then the Brazen Padres will start later tonight. Well,
Speaker 3: they're really doing this, I guess. Uh. Detroit just kind
Speaker 3: of sweaks squeaked in too, didn't they into the playoffs?
Speaker 6: They got hot at the end, and now they have
Speaker 6: the best record in the last part of the season.
Speaker 3: Rights seven times. I saw that, right, right. I haven't
Speaker 3: paid too much, but I heard that. The good young players,
Speaker 3: a lot of good young players. I think the oldest
Speaker 3: guy on there was like twenty eight.
Speaker 6: No, they're and you know what they and if you
Speaker 6: look at them, you can see they're really interchangeable because
Speaker 6: they're not in other words, they're very happy to be
Speaker 6: where they're at. They're in the big leagues down there postseason,
Speaker 6: so it's like, hey, I gotta sit tomorrow. That's okay,
Speaker 6: I'll be ready for the next day, you know. And
Speaker 6: that's probably not the case in a lot of those
Speaker 6: big league rosters.
Speaker 3: Sovan, I guess I had a domestic incident, was it. Yeah?
Speaker 4: I won't say what it was, but it's domestic basketball powerhouse.
Speaker 4: Gonzaga to join the PAC twelve for the twenty twenty
Speaker 4: sixth season.
Speaker 3: So you you brought that up earlier, coach, Uh, surprise,
Speaker 3: now a surprise and I'll say what I say that
Speaker 3: to you afterwards. Surprise surprise different.
Speaker 6: Hey, listen, I grew up as a I was in
Speaker 6: the six pack, you know. I played at UCLA in
Speaker 6: the seventies and there were six of us, and then
Speaker 6: to become the eight pack. Then it became this ten
Speaker 6: power of the pack Pack ten. When I came to
Speaker 6: Arizona's the pack ten then became the PAC twelve. You know,
Speaker 6: all due respect to those guys, you know, Freso State,
Speaker 6: Sannuel State, Boisse State, Gonzaga and Lors But I just can't.
Speaker 6: I don't feel good when somebody says PAC twelve and
Speaker 6: I I see, I see those schools in it. I go,
Speaker 6: it's not the packed one.
Speaker 3: It's not the PA. No, that's it. At the end
Speaker 3: of the day, it's not the Pack twelve. It's the
Speaker 3: Mount West with people. Come on, No, you know, my
Speaker 3: son's in New Mexico. He's a Mount West kid, so
Speaker 3: you know he's a coach there. So I'm all for it,
Speaker 3: even even if they if you actually went into back twelve.
Speaker 6: No, I tell my son, Hey, guess what, it's not
Speaker 6: the Pack.
Speaker 3: Exactly right.
Speaker 6: No, I'm you know, and I'm the same thing to
Speaker 6: someone this morning. I'm happy that they're I'm happy that
Speaker 6: they're existing because in this world of television controlling everything
Speaker 6: with money, you know, I'm glad you know it's sorting
Speaker 6: itself out.
Speaker 3: But this face fact, I've said, it's a lipstick on
Speaker 3: a pig. Come on, Yes, you got the title. That's
Speaker 3: how you got the pack. And it's not the PAC
Speaker 3: twelve anymore that we knew it or how we know it. Right, No,
Speaker 3: because they're somewhere else.
Speaker 7: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 6: You know, it's a college conference, and you know it's
Speaker 6: it's good for those young guys, the place for them
Speaker 6: to compete and play and move on if they get
Speaker 6: a chance to move on professionally.
Speaker 3: But that's not the Pack. No, I know, you're right.
Speaker 6: That's just my opinion, and no cares. It's just one
Speaker 6: man's opinion. But yeah, I understand what you say. So hey,
Speaker 6: good for Gonzaga.
Speaker 4: NHL is getting ready to open their CBA talks starting
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. One of the talking points is producing
Speaker 4: preseason games and expanding the regular season, kind of like
Speaker 4: the NFL is trying to do down the line. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't see if baseball ever does that with like
Speaker 4: spring training, because oh yeah, I got a whole month
Speaker 4: of spring training games and then what you.
Speaker 3: Play for six months?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah at hl.
Speaker 4: Odell Beckham is said to have his first practice with
Speaker 4: the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: But okay, that's yeah, welcome to the rescue. Right here
Speaker 3: comes the rescue. You can play quarterback? Yeah, quarterback again?
Speaker 3: Who is it? Hontley? Who's the Oh yeah he lost
Speaker 3: last star. Yeah, well he didn't do it well enough
Speaker 3: last night. It was a good game. The other game
Speaker 3: was pretty good this Seattle and uh Detroit. Yeah, crazy
Speaker 3: scoring game like those jerseys head Lions. Yeah, a new
Speaker 3: helmet through a perfect game? Right, didn't Golf throw a
Speaker 3: perfect game? Wasn't he like eighteen for eighteen? Oh he
Speaker 3: did something?
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I saw today he said he was eighteen
Speaker 6: for eighteen. I went, I threw a perfect game last night,
Speaker 6: my gosh.
Speaker 3: And he had too. They had to score a lot
Speaker 3: of points. Yeah, I look at it real quick, let
Speaker 3: me see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, he was Golf was eighteen for
Speaker 4: eighteen with two hundred nineteen yards.
Speaker 3: I think the record is like.
Speaker 6: Two touchdowns he had, so he had two more touchdowns
Speaker 6: and he had incompletions. Yeah, that's a pretty good night,
Speaker 6: right right, Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 3: Okay, So there's the news that came out today, Tyler
Speaker 3: Loop named Lou Groza Star of the Week. He's a
Speaker 3: fantastic kicker.
Speaker 7: Well he's good. Yeah, yeah, he's legit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's something the team needs to save. How can
Speaker 3: I say this, not say but to field positioned ball.
Speaker 6: You know, I played high school football and then I
Speaker 6: coached for five years in frost Off level at Meer
Speaker 6: Coast at my high school. When I first started coaching life,
Speaker 6: and I'll tell you what, man, I mean, the biggest
Speaker 6: night from me was like run the field goal team
Speaker 6: out there. It's like, oh God, why no, let's go
Speaker 6: for it. And I worked at Florida when Steve Spurry
Speaker 6: was there, and he he would refuse to punt and
Speaker 6: field goal.
Speaker 3: Like we're going for it, right you. No. I love
Speaker 3: those coaches.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but but if you've got a guy like our guys, yeah,
Speaker 6: hey yeah you can kick from sixty Yeah, let's move
Speaker 6: the ball, and so.
Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you a question I've never
Speaker 3: asked you, and I know my thoughts on this. What's
Speaker 3: the most important position on a baseball field?
Speaker 6: Well, I was a shortstop, so it has to be fantastically good.
Speaker 3: Okay for me, it's a catcher. I was just gonna
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to say it's a short out because
Speaker 6: I was a short stop. But because everybody on the
Speaker 6: defense sees him, so if he's sloppy and lazy and careless,
Speaker 6: it kind of rubs off on a couple of resals.
Speaker 7: I believe that.
Speaker 6: I mean not everybody's intrinsically motivated. So if you've got
Speaker 6: a left fielder that really likes to hit but doesn't
Speaker 6: like to play the defense right, and he sees the
Speaker 6: catcher on his knees all the time and flipping the
Speaker 6: ball back and throwing it at the catchers at the
Speaker 6: pitcher's feet, and it just sloppy, and you know, he
Speaker 6: just sloppy. You know. I used to joke with some
Speaker 6: of the guys that, well, I guess it wasn't a joke, Steve.
Speaker 6: But when I had catchers, Ryan, when I had catchers
Speaker 6: that wouldn't catch the ball on a consistent basis. I said,
Speaker 6: you're no longer a catcher. You're a chaser. You know,
Speaker 6: You're just all you do is chase. You chase the
Speaker 6: ball behind you.
Speaker 3: You need a catcher for kids.
Speaker 6: But anyway, but everybody sees him and he can really
Speaker 6: save you bound visits. In other words, you only have
Speaker 6: a certain amount of mound visits. So if I've got
Speaker 6: to go out in the first inning, I've already used them.
Speaker 6: I don't want to use them in that. I don't
Speaker 6: use that. I want to use that mountin visit in
Speaker 6: the fifth and the Seventh's got to be smart, So
Speaker 6: he's got to go out and he's got to know
Speaker 6: what we've been talking about in the bullpen, about release point,
Speaker 6: about making sure his arm is in the right slot,
Speaker 6: making sure his grip isn't the right you know, he's
Speaker 6: got to coach a little bit in terms of getting
Speaker 6: these guys on track. So yeah, I always felt that
Speaker 6: if we had a good catcher, we had a pretty
Speaker 6: good chance of being successful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have said, that's a key position, your
Speaker 3: shortstop position. So what position makes better coaches? I think
Speaker 3: catchers really, yeah, really say shortstop? Well, I think the
Speaker 3: smartest dudes on the field or second basement.
Speaker 6: Now, I say this, I always said this that if
Speaker 6: we don't have a good second basement, we don't have
Speaker 6: a chance to win a national championship because because they
Speaker 6: got to turn a big pivot in a big game,
Speaker 6: in a big situation, they've got to turn a pivot
Speaker 6: where a good second basement turns that pivot and gets
Speaker 6: you out of the seventh inning a really close game,
Speaker 6: and an average second baseman turns it and guess what,
Speaker 6: the guy at first is safe. A good one turns
Speaker 6: it and the guy first is out and you're off
Speaker 6: the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense, I think too. There's a lot
Speaker 3: going up that going on up the middle. Yes, and
Speaker 3: you have your shortstop who's kind of assumed he's the
Speaker 3: good player, he's athletic, all that, but the second basement
Speaker 3: is kind of underrated and he has to do almost
Speaker 3: the same amount of things as the shortstop thing in
Speaker 3: terms of okay, this situation, but baseball's.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you the value of shortstop though, quite honestly,
Speaker 6: if you look at for example, if you look at
Speaker 6: the twenty twelve national championship team in Arizona, ready Seth
Speaker 6: Maheus Breen was our third basement good player short stop
Speaker 6: in high school. Alex Mheil was our shortstop shortstop in
Speaker 6: high school. Trent Gilbert was our second basement short stop
Speaker 6: in high school. Brandon Dixon was our first basement shortstop
Speaker 6: in high school. Robert Restneider was our right fielder shorttop
Speaker 6: in high school, and Johnny phil was our second, our
Speaker 6: left fielder.
Speaker 7: Shortstop in high school.
Speaker 3: And you and you made the switch.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, let you tell them, come here and compete
Speaker 6: for the shortstop position. Come here and compete. So tell
Speaker 6: me if you're gonna be if you're best shortstop, and
Speaker 6: you'll make it. But if you can't, we're gonna fit.
Speaker 3: You in another sh And then how receptive were they? U?
Speaker 3: Has this story been told? Are you sure not?
Speaker 7: No? I was a big person.
Speaker 6: Get as many shortstops as you can, really, yeah, because
Speaker 6: they run the show defensively, and they're athletic and they
Speaker 6: got arm strength and if they can swing it.
Speaker 3: Robert Refsneyer, come on, yeah right.
Speaker 6: Many people don't know this, but Robert Refsnuder was rafted
Speaker 6: by the Yankees and they trying to make up second baseman.
Speaker 6: I just talked to Robert two weeks ago, and and
Speaker 6: he stopped. He stopped hitting because he was so mentally
Speaker 6: screwed up trying to play second base. And when the
Speaker 6: Boston got him and stuck him in the outfield, boom
Speaker 6: he took off. They love him, They just love the guy.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I used to tell guys, listen, I don't
Speaker 6: I don't know if you can play shortstop, but if
Speaker 6: you want to come here and compete to play shortstop,
Speaker 6: we've always recruited this kid me here, we've already recued.
Speaker 7: But here's me. But and they're gonna compete for that spot.
Speaker 6: Sure, but if you want to come and compete, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna let you compete, because you know what. All I
Speaker 6: know is what I'm gonna see, And the game is
Speaker 6: gonna tell me. And if you're honest, the game's gonna
Speaker 6: tell you. Steve, if you say to me, coach, I'm
Speaker 6: your best shore up, you know what, the game's gonna
Speaker 6: tell us that. The game's gonna tell that. I don't
Speaker 6: need somebody tell The game is gonna tell.
Speaker 3: Did you have I'm sure you have guys leave because
Speaker 3: of what Yeah, he's talking about.
Speaker 7: All the time.
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Speaker 3: the days and the Lopez. You have a national title
Speaker 3: guy one year there and one year in Florida when
Speaker 3: a Pepperdine and now we have Brian. We're waiting for
Speaker 3: Donnie Salem to Polis. He didn't answer on our try,
Speaker 3: So let's go to Let's go to it, and I
Speaker 3: just because we'll talk about it anyway. Uh, waiting waiting
Speaker 3: for Donnie, uh your eight year nine years removed now right, Yes,
Speaker 3: And I'm sure nine years ago you were talking about
Speaker 3: being flipped. The guy's flipping, right, that was a big concern,
Speaker 3: that was deconcerned back there. Yeah, that was that was
Speaker 3: nothing compared to now. Holy folks. Yeah, it's a different animal.
Speaker 6: I mean, the landscape is just the landscape of college athletics.
Speaker 7: Just it's like it is.
Speaker 6: There are days when I feel like I didn't do it,
Speaker 6: Like I wasn't a part of it. Yeah, like I
Speaker 6: wasn't a part of this. Yea, you know. I mean,
Speaker 6: aren't you lucky? No, I wasn't a part of it.
Speaker 7: I was in a hold. I did.
Speaker 6: I did something and a whole another world. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: really did.
Speaker 3: And that was just a few years ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, nine twenty fifteen was my last year. And yeah,
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm telling you my son, I mentioned
Speaker 6: a couple of times here. He's an assistant coach at
Speaker 6: the University of Mexico and he's a mid major excuse me,
Speaker 6: and he's up there with Todd Brown, another Arizona Wildcat,
Speaker 6: and Sabine a Wire. Yeah exactly, and he'll tell me
Speaker 6: stories and I just I can't believe it, you know.
Speaker 6: And I talked to him three four times a week.
Speaker 6: My son will call me three four times a week
Speaker 6: just to check in and say how things are going on,
Speaker 6: what have you. But yes, the landscape is completely different.
Speaker 7: It's just for me personally.
Speaker 6: It's something they better control of.
Speaker 3: It and got to do it soon. I'm sure it's
Speaker 3: not gonna happen soon. But Andy, this is the thing
Speaker 3: that concerns me. And not that I'm going to lose
Speaker 3: sleep over it, because I don't. But places like New Mexico,
Speaker 3: where your sons are or your son is, where they're
Speaker 3: not with the Joneses. They're not a Jones and Arizona's
Speaker 3: not a Jones You know what I'm saying. They're on
Speaker 3: agree with you, and at some point the Jones run
Speaker 3: out of money.
Speaker 6: That to me is you know, I took a job
Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty nine and when I when they called
Speaker 6: me for the interview.
Speaker 7: It's called Pepperdine University.
Speaker 6: They called me for the interview, and they you know,
Speaker 6: and I sit in there and there was about four
Speaker 6: There was athletic director Wayne Wright and three other people.
Speaker 6: And this is a true story. And so I go
Speaker 6: in and I'm I'm thirty four years old. I'm thirty three.
Speaker 6: Here at thirty three years old. Yeah, come on, I'm
Speaker 6: a crazy Mexican from Sam Peter at thirty three years old.
Speaker 6: And they said, well, coach, if we give you this job,
Speaker 6: what do you think you can do here? And I said, well,
Speaker 6: if we work real hard and we recruit the right guys,
Speaker 6: we'll play for a national championship. And there was a
Speaker 6: guy on a committee left that snicker and I caught
Speaker 6: him out of the corner of my eye and I went, huh, okay,
Speaker 6: So I found out later who he was.
Speaker 7: He wasn't there.
Speaker 6: My fourth year, four years later, we win the national
Speaker 6: title and I drove us literally. I played the Omaha
Speaker 6: video that the ABS that the ANC double they would
Speaker 6: send out from the previous College World stays. I played
Speaker 6: it every day in the clubhouse. They had to watch
Speaker 6: it every day in the clubhouse, and I know they didn't,
Speaker 6: but I just shared it every day every day, every day,
Speaker 6: and we talked about home, We talked about it, and
Speaker 6: we go to Omar.
Speaker 7: We win the dang thing, right, Okay?
Speaker 3: Is a d there at the time?
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, And that was my goal.
Speaker 3: That was our goal, sure as it should be.
Speaker 6: I talked to my son today this morning about something
Speaker 6: about pitching, because he's a pitching coach up there, and
Speaker 6: and I said, Michael, what you know what I always
Speaker 6: did is I worked backwards. I wanted, what do we do?
Speaker 6: What do we want to look like in the College
Speaker 6: World Series? And now let's start working back and how
Speaker 6: what do we look like today? I always worked backwards.
Speaker 6: That was my hopefuls backwards, I said, Michael, I don't
Speaker 6: want to break your heart, but the way the landscape
Speaker 6: is in college baseball right now, in college athletics, you're
Speaker 6: crazy to think about Omaha. New Mexico's crazy thing about Oma.
Speaker 6: You ought to think about getting to a super regional.
Speaker 7: That could be your Omaha.
Speaker 6: That could be your Omaha because money's directing everything. Even
Speaker 6: if you win a regional, Michael, they're going to send
Speaker 6: you to Clemson, or they're going to send you to LSU,
Speaker 6: or they gonna say they're gonna send your place where
Speaker 6: it's fifteen thousand people and they got a two million dollars, Well,
Speaker 6: they got a million dollar salary over there.
Speaker 3: They got thirty five guys over there.
Speaker 6: In between them all there's a million dollars invested in them, right,
Speaker 6: And what do you got right?
Speaker 3: Somebody is yeah, they'll taco, they'll taco sponsorship, someone's got
Speaker 3: a deal at uh yeah, yeah, yeah, Riley or somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, no, no, I hear you.
Speaker 6: So it's just not realistic. And that's sad to me.
Speaker 6: That's sad, right, because the Yeah, it's sad.
Speaker 7: It's sad. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 6: In twenty twenty two, by the grace of God, I
Speaker 6: was inducted at the National College Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6: And in my induction speech, I said this. In twenty
Speaker 6: twenty two, I said, you know, I know I'm being
Speaker 6: brought up here because of the success I had as
Speaker 6: a coach, and I'm really thankful for that. But I
Speaker 6: want to talk about something other than my successes. I
Speaker 6: want to talk about something that I think that really
Speaker 6: made me. If I'm a good man in any way,
Speaker 6: it's not the successes. It's what I overcame. Like I
Speaker 6: over that's why you have a good book in there.
Speaker 6: I know you have a good book in there. No,
Speaker 6: but I want to tell it. I said, I overcame
Speaker 6: some things that I thought I couldn't when it happened.
Speaker 6: I can't do it, and then guess what I did it?
Speaker 6: And I got more confident, and then another I can't
Speaker 6: do this, and I got on. Hey, when I was
Speaker 6: at Pepperdine, my first month at Pepperine, Steve, I will
Speaker 6: tell you I was the most intimidated human being on
Speaker 6: the campus. Yeah, I felt like I didn't belong here.
Speaker 6: Why your mom and dad are from Mexicello. I didn't
Speaker 6: read this language. You got no come on, what are
Speaker 6: you doing it?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 6: These kids are pulling apologetic, These kids are pulling up
Speaker 6: in BMW's. I got a Volkswagen Jeda. You know, I mean,
Speaker 6: what am I doing here? And I said, you know what,
Speaker 6: this is wrong. I belong here. I belong here. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna do a good job here.
Speaker 3: You let me tell you you you screw up your story.
Speaker 3: You're the best story teller I know. Let me tell
Speaker 3: you why you didn't tell me what happened to do
Speaker 3: to Stickard. You know what I would have done. I
Speaker 3: would have sent the national title something to wherever he was,
Speaker 3: because I know you Protty followed him wherever he went,
Speaker 3: and you said there I got what I said. I
Speaker 3: would get you didn't do. I know you wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: You took it a guy for that, but you obviously
Speaker 3: notice him snickered. I would have said he got fired. Well,
Speaker 3: you know there, you gonna have fired. Timer's a bitch.
Speaker 7: You got fired at the beginning of that school year.
Speaker 3: The same year after being on that early wonted, okay,
Speaker 3: he got fired. You know.
Speaker 6: I walked in the office with Dare. I said, hey, word,
Speaker 6: I won't say his name out of respect. Hey where's Jim?
Speaker 6: I asked our secretary, Hey, worre's Jim?
Speaker 1: And she was.
Speaker 6: She was the secretary for the all of the for
Speaker 6: all the coaches. You know, it's Pepperdine rights, three thousand students.
Speaker 6: There's no football team. And I said her name was Roxanne. Roxanne,
Speaker 6: where's gym? I said, oh, you didn't hear coach? And
Speaker 6: I went, no god, I thought, oh my god. To
Speaker 6: get an accent. She goes, they let him go last week.
Speaker 6: And I went they let him go. She goes, yeah,
Speaker 6: his workload, his work was not.
Speaker 3: Then I went, is that right? Well, that's what I
Speaker 3: would have done. More power to you, you know, because
Speaker 3: you knew what you needed to do or wanted to do,
Speaker 3: but at a place that you know.
Speaker 6: And see the nil now is again if if my
Speaker 6: son's got a real good picture at New Mexico.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's New.
Speaker 6: Mexico next air Force. Look at the kids all schemes.
Speaker 6: I saw him, Steve. I saw him in person his
Speaker 6: last year at air Force. I went to Albuquerque to
Speaker 6: watch a series Air Force New Mexico.
Speaker 7: Friday night. There's a guy pitching. I move on.
Speaker 6: I'm always off to the side. I can get far away.
Speaker 6: I just like to watch my you know whatever. But
Speaker 6: I'm going, whoa, This guy's pretty specially about the fourth things.
Speaker 6: So now I sit up in the stands man home plane.
Speaker 6: There's not a big crowd there, and there's three or
Speaker 6: four scouts to that. Hey, loaves, what's going on? I said, Oh,
Speaker 6: my son's a pitching coach here. Oh okay, I say,
Speaker 6: can I just sit here with you guys?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on? Tell me what you're doing? Da
Speaker 3: da da da dah.
Speaker 6: As I'm doing that, I'm seeing their radar goings go up,
Speaker 6: and I glance over ninety eight, ninety seven, ninety eight,
Speaker 6: I'm going, holy smokes, well they win. Air Force wins.
Speaker 6: I go back to my son's apartment. I stay with
Speaker 6: my son and I go, Mike, that guy's pretty good.
Speaker 6: He goes, yeah, Dad, he'll catch on Sunday. I said
Speaker 6: what he said, Yeah, he'll dch tomorrow and then he'll
Speaker 6: catch on. He DHD the next day hitting in the
Speaker 6: three hole, and then he caught. He was the catcher
Speaker 6: on Sunday. Right next year, he's at LSU. David Asker,
Speaker 6: coach of Stanford baseball coach, he and our dear friends.
Speaker 6: And I told David, because they were going home all
Speaker 6: that year, I said, David, anybody that has Paul schemes
Speaker 6: is going to win the national title this year.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 6: And you were right, anybody right? And they were LOADEDO man.
Speaker 6: But that's a good example, you know. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 6: if you've got a good player, if you're a mid
Speaker 6: major and you worked hard to get this guy and
Speaker 6: you got them right. And I did that at Pepperdine. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you work hard to find these guys under the rocks
Speaker 6: and you get them.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 6: Mark Wazikowski my assistant coach, ex player. He was our
Speaker 6: third basement of the ninety two national championship team. He's
Speaker 6: the head coach base of baseball at Oregon. We talk
Speaker 6: all the time, all the time, and I said, I said,
Speaker 6: waas think of your teammates in nineteen ninety two, the
Speaker 6: national championship team. Right there are five juniors. I said,
Speaker 6: would they have been at Pepperdine their junior year if
Speaker 6: we had nil at that time? He goes, I love
Speaker 6: your lopes And guess what, No, they would have been gone.
Speaker 3: So there it is. We don't win a national championship
Speaker 3: pe in NLI world.
Speaker 6: No, Man Rodriguez is going somewhere, a chef is going somewhere,
Speaker 6: Melinda's going somewhere, Montgomery's going somewhere. And Wallet, there's five
Speaker 6: guys right there. They're not at Pepperdine.
Speaker 3: All these places now are dressers for the next year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it is sad to see. I get it. It is
Speaker 3: what it is. People here. Look a singer went to
Speaker 3: La Tour the USC that was at Utah and people,
Speaker 3: he said, you say that, you say, and you know
Speaker 3: the Peter principal. You all level up to the to
Speaker 3: the level and you're good enough. So some people do
Speaker 3: make it, some people don't. But you know, it's a
Speaker 3: tough job.
Speaker 6: And I'm all for people getting money I wish I
Speaker 6: could have got money at U C l A. You know,
Speaker 6: but but I think we're missing out on again letting
Speaker 6: them fail and overcome so that they get some confidence,
Speaker 6: because you know what, there's still a very small percentage
Speaker 6: they're gonna have careers in the big leagues at any level, NFL, NBA,
Speaker 6: there's it's a small percentage they're all going to be
Speaker 6: like you and I, Steve, going out and working.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it ain't easy working right, this is easy,
Speaker 3: but it's uh, let me ask you. We have a call? No,
Speaker 3: maybe not maybe? Yes, Okay, we'll wait for this. He's
Speaker 3: young or whoever? Can I can you what was your
Speaker 3: relationship with the previous baseball coach? Can you say? Hold
Speaker 3: that thought? Sure? Okay, you're in the air and eye
Speaker 3: on the ball, Donnie Salem. Holy crap, we've been trying
Speaker 3: to track you down. Man, How are you I apology? No,
Speaker 3: that's fine. Did we catch you napping?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: Do you? Let me let me ask you this Ken.
Speaker 3: We're finishing up this segment. It would have been your segment, Donnie.
Speaker 3: But I won't yell at you. Uh can you can
Speaker 3: we call you back in like in five minutes? So
Speaker 3: we can use some of the more time with you. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: we'll go, we'll take him off and then we'll come
Speaker 3: back with him after the break. Is that cool?
Speaker 13: Right?
Speaker 3: Okay? So great coach, great coach, one who went to
Speaker 3: l s U oh J Johnson. J Johnson, a fantastic coach.
Speaker 3: Obviously had a baseball has a baseball mind. Uh. A
Speaker 3: lot of people don't like him because of what happened. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's a business. I'm not gonna alibi him. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna but this is what happens these days. You're good,
Speaker 3: People want you, you go. Did you know him?
Speaker 1: Did you like that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 7: I didn't.
Speaker 6: I met Jay for forty five minutes when Greg Burn
Speaker 6: asked me to meet with him. Greg Burn asked me
Speaker 6: to meet with him? Uh, which which you which? You
Speaker 6: know you always do that? I did it every I
Speaker 6: did it everywhere I went to And you go over
Speaker 6: the roster, and you go over scholarship allotments and who's leaving,
Speaker 6: who might not leaving, and incoming recruiter and you know, hey, Jay,
Speaker 6: you need to really make sure this guy doesn't leave
Speaker 6: on you. This guy's this guy's a real deal, and
Speaker 6: this and that. So I had never met him, and
Speaker 6: he was a baseball guy. Yeah, I never met him.
Speaker 6: I never met him.
Speaker 7: He was at Reno, he's at San Diego, and I
Speaker 7: never met him.
Speaker 6: I had heard through through through my assistants and things,
Speaker 6: you know, fanatic, recruiter, fanatic, obviously fanatic, just.
Speaker 3: Off the charts.
Speaker 7: And and I've heard that.
Speaker 6: I've heard that part of him. And and then I
Speaker 6: was doing PAC twelve network at the time, baseball on lists.
Speaker 6: So when I do games at Tucson, or you hear
Speaker 6: at Tucson, I go before the game and talk.
Speaker 7: To them a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But you know, we now we've all we you know,
Speaker 6: we were always very cordial and all the rest. You know,
Speaker 6: I heard I heard some things, and you know, to
Speaker 6: this day, I hear things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and hey, I won't ask you what
Speaker 3: you've heard.
Speaker 6: Everybody does it differently, differently, Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me
Speaker 6: ask you.
Speaker 3: I also use this as we talked about a chain.
Speaker 3: I did, Uh, you have a good coach, mediocre coach, whatever.
Speaker 3: You have a coach, uh, And you have talent, mediocre
Speaker 3: talent or whatever. What's more important when you want to win?
Speaker 3: You have a good coach. But if you have good coach,
Speaker 3: mediocre talent, or a mediocre coach super talent. I've seen
Speaker 3: it all, played for it too. Okay, what's what's the
Speaker 3: key element? I think?
Speaker 6: Okay, I used to say this to my teams constantly.
Speaker 6: A good team that plays hard is really hard to beat. Okay,
Speaker 6: a good team by a good time. I mean they
Speaker 6: are talented. A good talented team that plays hard is
Speaker 6: really hard to beat. A good team, talented, good team
Speaker 6: that doesn't play hard, We'll find ways to beat them. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we'll find ways to beat them. I put that responsibility
Speaker 6: on the head coach to play hard. Yeah, to play hard. Yeah, No,
Speaker 6: I totally agree with you. There's something I know. You
Speaker 6: were an intense dude.
Speaker 3: And if the if the players don't respect you in
Speaker 3: some form some form, uh you you, you aren't going
Speaker 3: to have a good team, no matter how.
Speaker 6: My last year here, my last year and a half,
Speaker 6: I had that you know, bypass surgery. This that I
Speaker 6: was horrible, horrible as a what sense? Well, I I
Speaker 6: the surgery. They they pop to hernias and I still
Speaker 6: have them. I't fix but I they hurt like crazy.
Speaker 6: I never had a herney my life. They hurt like crazy,
Speaker 6: and prior to my heart surgery or my bypass surgery,
Speaker 6: if anybody went out there, I threw batting practice every
Speaker 6: day for an hour and twenty minutes, and I mean
Speaker 6: I got after it. I mean I challenged them and
Speaker 6: I would say things like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Somewhere in America?
Speaker 6: I'm fifty three years old and I got a bad back,
Speaker 6: and you're not getting You're not hitting line drives off
Speaker 6: of me. What are you going to do on Friday
Speaker 6: now against Smith who's supposed to be a first round
Speaker 6: draft pick?
Speaker 7: Are you kidding me? Get out of the cage. And
Speaker 7: then the next guy.
Speaker 6: This is after after the surgery, this is before, and
Speaker 6: then if I want, I would demonstrate based running. I
Speaker 6: would demonstrate that I would. I wasn't a CEO type
Speaker 6: of guy. It was very intense and very animated and
Speaker 6: hands on. I have the surgery, I go back and
Speaker 6: I'm not scared of the bypass thing, but the armis
Speaker 6: were killing me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Man, I couldn't throw VP anymore. I couldn't demonstrate anything,
Speaker 6: and it was very confusing for me. And it was
Speaker 6: really confusing. Yeah, I had a next player tell me
Speaker 6: that when you came back. We would leave practice everything
Speaker 6: and go like who is this guy? So it was
Speaker 6: my wife told me don't go back. I'm the one
Speaker 6: that said I'm going back, and.
Speaker 3: I show show you you changed. Uh did you lose
Speaker 3: their respect or is.
Speaker 10: That what it was.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I lost the respect, but I
Speaker 6: know I confused them because you were not to Yes,
Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing, say, I was really intense,
Speaker 6: but my guys knew this guy's going to get after today,
Speaker 6: like Coach Lopez gonna be like you better be ready
Speaker 6: to go.
Speaker 7: Because he's coming after it. And that last year or so,
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, who is it?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Was it a case too we gotta go? Yeah,
Speaker 3: we gotta go. Was there a case now where the
Speaker 3: players when they when you were intense and toime, didn't
Speaker 3: want to disappoint you, so they played their ass off
Speaker 3: and then when you came back, well that kind of shifted.
Speaker 6: Just a real quick answer, Yeah, I think, yeah, I
Speaker 6: know you heard it right on the money. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: things were different and and and so it was time.
Speaker 7: For me to leave.
Speaker 3: Well you knew when I mean, it was more than
Speaker 3: just the flipping and the floppy and all that Yeah, Okay,
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Speaker 2: the Ball on Tucson sports station Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here in
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me
Speaker 3: today's former UA baseball coach Andy Lopez. Now on the phone,
Speaker 3: we have Donnie Salem, former football player in the late eighties. Donnie,
Speaker 3: how are you hey?
Speaker 1: Doing great?
Speaker 3: We're doing We're doing fine.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Tell me what are your thoughts? On this football team
Speaker 3: that you've seen now four games.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean it was pretty uh you know, obviously
Speaker 16: the offense played great the first game defense didn't, but
Speaker 16: I think they caught us off guard a little bit.
Speaker 16: That quarterback and that receiver were really good. And then
Speaker 16: the second game, defense played well even though it was
Speaker 16: just an AU and the offense looked a little shaky.
Speaker 16: The third game on either side looked that great. But
Speaker 16: I was really upset with the refs in that game.
Speaker 16: But you can't can't always blame it on them. Sometimes
Speaker 16: you've got to be good enough to beat the other
Speaker 16: team and the refs. We've we've had our share of
Speaker 16: moments with the refs. I just didn't didn't like all
Speaker 16: the calls that were going only one way to start
Speaker 16: that game. And they've had a few make up calls
Speaker 16: late in the game, but it was it was out
Speaker 16: of hand at that point. So but then, you know,
Speaker 16: Utah game, We're good enough to beat any team in
Speaker 16: this conference. If we play like that every week, then
Speaker 16: we got a chance to, uh to beat everybody you
Speaker 16: know that's left on our schedule.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I I just I don't know
Speaker 1: what changed so much.
Speaker 16: I know, some of the play calling changed, and that
Speaker 16: the whole team seemed to really be hyped up and
Speaker 16: uh ready to prove everybody wrong. That was jumping off
Speaker 16: the bandwagon. That's what it felt like to me and
Speaker 16: sometimes felt it feels like we've always kind of played
Speaker 16: that underdog role a little better than the uh than
Speaker 16: the ones who are supposed to win and be great.
Speaker 16: We've we've seen that over the years, time after time,
Speaker 16: and and I like being the underdog. You know, that's uh,
Speaker 16: you know, playing like that with your hair on fire,
Speaker 16: and those that defense and and Fefeita seemed to be
Speaker 16: really in sync with a lot of the guys. It
Speaker 16: leads to a lot of that game I think, you know,
Speaker 16: like I said, I, if we can play like that,
Speaker 16: we can beat anybody in this conference, and that would
Speaker 16: put us into the end of the playoffs if we
Speaker 16: play like that every every week. And it seemed like
Speaker 16: this last game we picked up where we were at
Speaker 16: last year, and we're really playing hard, nos tough football
Speaker 16: and flying to the ball and everybody excited. You could
Speaker 16: just you could feel the energy on the sidelines just
Speaker 16: even watching it on TV.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, hey, DONI, this is Andy Lopeauz I baseball
Speaker 6: coach here for fourteen years with you of A and
Speaker 6: so I had a chance to watch the program and
Speaker 6: I got along with Mike Stookes extremely well and what
Speaker 6: have you. But you know, the one thing that I
Speaker 6: really I've told, you know, neighbors and things about because again,
Speaker 6: after the first three games, You're right, people were going,
Speaker 6: oh my gosh, what's going on and this and that
Speaker 6: with the football from I said, you know, it's hard
Speaker 6: to do the expected, right. I mean, I was a
Speaker 6: head coach for thirty eight years at the college level,
Speaker 6: and you know, when you've got a good team and
Speaker 6: that team comes back, I mean, you don't sneak up
Speaker 6: on anybody anymore. Like you you are a real target
Speaker 6: now on someone's schedule. And uh and so they're not.
Speaker 6: You know, they've they've you know, for the to their
Speaker 6: to their credit. I mean, I agree with you. I've
Speaker 6: watched the games too, and and uh, hey they played
Speaker 6: well this weekend. But you know, they they you know,
Speaker 6: that's probably the realization they have to come to, is
Speaker 6: they Hey, we're not sneaking up on anybody. I mean
Speaker 6: we we're legit, and we need to go out and
Speaker 6: play legit type of football every single weekend.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, but they're good this weekend. Yeah, coach,
Speaker 1: and yeah, nice to me.
Speaker 16: I've met you a couple of times in person, just briefly,
Speaker 16: but uh, I agree one hundred percent, you know, and
Speaker 16: I've I've always said it. You know, with football, if
Speaker 16: you've got an average team that's really really ready to play,
Speaker 16: and a and a better team that's that's flat or
Speaker 16: thinking they're just gonna win the game, you've got a game.
Speaker 16: You know, that's it's not not uh, we can't be
Speaker 16: asleep or or thinking we're in a position where we're
Speaker 16: just gonna mow anybody down. And you see it even
Speaker 16: at the highest levels in the SEC. If you've got
Speaker 16: a team that's uh, it's one team's ready to oh
Speaker 16: and the other team is flat or just thinking they're
Speaker 16: going to walk in and get it handed to them.
Speaker 16: You got a game, and a lot of times those
Speaker 16: are big upsets past weekend, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, yeah, well you talked about that, you donnie.
Speaker 3: I'm sure and I covered you guys back in the day.
Speaker 3: You guys went through this too. You get to Oregon State,
Speaker 3: I think maybe an Oregon where you just okay, we
Speaker 3: just got to show up and play and you and
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen. It just can't happen.
Speaker 16: Yeah, Cal, I mean, Cal, you know we jump on
Speaker 16: them twenty one zip and think the game's over and.
Speaker 1: Then you know, these guys got pride and they're they're great, great,
Speaker 1: great players as well.
Speaker 16: And if you do that and you don't keep your
Speaker 16: foot on the gas and keep that excitement way up, then,
Speaker 16: uh then things turn turn south on you real quick.
Speaker 16: And so I think you know, hopefully this staff, you know,
Speaker 16: and the team knows it. Uh, that exactly what we're
Speaker 16: talking about. We've got to come out with our hair
Speaker 16: on fire every single game, every play until that last whistles,
Speaker 16: you know, until the game's over. It could go to
Speaker 16: z Zuro, you know, I mean, you know, the coach
Speaker 16: told me. You just talk about it all the time
Speaker 16: that you know, that's one of the reasons you love
Speaker 16: baseball is it wasn't over till that till that twenty
Speaker 16: is the twenty seven outs, right, you know, and and
Speaker 16: that's that's you know, with football, you've got to show up,
Speaker 16: you know, and NAU is going to be super excited.
Speaker 16: They're going to be ready and you're looking ahead to
Speaker 16: Kansas State or what have you. And I'm not saying
Speaker 16: that's exactly what happened, but it felt like it because
Speaker 16: even you know, we all expected it and uh and
Speaker 16: you know, then you're in a battle and you you know,
Speaker 16: we come out on top. But uh, you know, the
Speaker 16: the the mindset, especially at college level and high school
Speaker 16: and younger whoever's ready and got their you know, I
Speaker 16: call it hair on fire, you know, running down, you
Speaker 16: know and ready to absolutely be in a fist fight.
Speaker 16: And you know that team's going to have an advantage
Speaker 16: if the other team's flat. And you know there's there's
Speaker 16: times when you, uh, when you can be really good
Speaker 16: if if your if your mindset's right.
Speaker 1: I felt that way last year.
Speaker 16: I think, you know, our team kind of lost a
Speaker 16: few games we shouldn't of That SC game turned the
Speaker 16: whole season around, you know, and then obviously Fafita getting
Speaker 16: in there.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, next thing, you know, you're rolling and
Speaker 1: and and you're ready.
Speaker 16: Every single game you're going out for you know, ready
Speaker 16: for a fight, and especially in football, and it's just
Speaker 16: a mindset.
Speaker 1: I imagine even in baseball, you felt that coach that.
Speaker 16: You know, sometimes you guys, you know, just kind of
Speaker 16: lacka days ago, not totally dialed in, and a couple
Speaker 16: of breaks go the wrong way, and the momentum is
Speaker 16: is everything and football, you.
Speaker 1: Know, you got to keep that that, you know, what
Speaker 1: is it? Uncle Moe?
Speaker 16: He needs to be on your side because if the
Speaker 16: other team gets it here, you're fighting to.
Speaker 1: Get it back, you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 6: Now there were many days I'd be sitting around in
Speaker 6: the fifth inning looking at my team, thinking, are you
Speaker 6: guys going to play here soon? Because we've been walking
Speaker 6: through this thing for the first five innings and now
Speaker 6: we got our hands full of fellas.
Speaker 3: And then by the ninth you're saying, what the hell
Speaker 3: just happened?
Speaker 7: Oh, I'd say it fellas.
Speaker 6: You know what, we've allowed these guys to be confident.
Speaker 6: Now they did not show up confidently, but now they've
Speaker 6: got some confidence.
Speaker 7: And guess what, you got your hands.
Speaker 3: And Donny, you brought up a point. And I've said
Speaker 3: this earlier this week and maybe all the time because
Speaker 3: I've covered basketball too, where Arizona loves to play as
Speaker 3: an underdog. I think they lead the nation in beating
Speaker 3: teams ranked when they're not ranked, but when you become ranked,
Speaker 3: it's because you know, whatever reason you get.
Speaker 16: Beat Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know I heard that
Speaker 16: at the end of the game, where we've beaten more
Speaker 16: top ten teams unranked than anybody else in the country,
Speaker 16: And oh my god. You know, we've always had a
Speaker 16: way of you know, we fight, and you know, like
Speaker 16: when we played Steep I think until last year, we
Speaker 16: beat five ranked teams when I was a senior in
Speaker 16: eighty nine, and you know, we'd show up for that games.
Speaker 16: But we laid an egg against cal And in Oregon,
Speaker 16: and you know, and you know that you got to
Speaker 16: show up for every game and you got to have
Speaker 16: that that mentality and hopefully has a good lesson learned
Speaker 16: those first three games, and we pulled it all together,
Speaker 16: you know. I mean, I was just hoping to be
Speaker 16: real competitive and have a great game and of course
Speaker 16: wanting to win, and then we should.
Speaker 1: Playing like we were. I didn't sit down the entire game.
Speaker 1: I stood right in front of.
Speaker 16: My TV just going crazy because it was it was
Speaker 16: Arizona football that you know then and as you know, Steve,
Speaker 16: in the eighties and nineties, we didn't win.
Speaker 1: Every game, but you were in You were in a
Speaker 1: fist fight. You were in a fight.
Speaker 3: Right, That's that's what I call it, Donnie Salem game.
Speaker 3: One of those SIFs. Hey Donny, we got to go. Man,
Speaker 3: thank you for joining us real quick and last minute.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Guys, he was talking. He's one of those guys, the
Speaker 3: tough dudes. And I'm sure you had guys like willed
Speaker 3: your team not to win or not to lose. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh, you could just tell by his language.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he was hair on fire four or
Speaker 6: five times and fist fight two or three times, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: this guy was not a church mouse.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you get linebacker. Oh yeah, he was
Speaker 3: kind of Scooby before Scooby was Scooby.
Speaker 7: He sounded like a linebacker.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, how you doing? Kick your ass? This sound
Speaker 3: like a punter. You know. But you I'm sure you
Speaker 3: went through this too. Good teams get beat by so
Speaker 3: show teams. Getting the guys to get up for a
Speaker 3: games is very difficult.
Speaker 6: I said it forever, I said it for thirty eight years.
Speaker 6: It's a game played by young people and you don't know, man,
Speaker 6: you just don't know what happened last night. You don't
Speaker 6: know what happened last week? You know, it's a game
Speaker 6: played by young people. Yeah, and you just don't know well.
Speaker 6: And I've said this a number of times on the show.
Speaker 6: Emotions play a huge factor in college sports. Could have
Speaker 6: lost a girlfriend, could have found a girlfriend, could have
Speaker 6: a class was bad, whatever, could be anything. The triggers
Speaker 6: game played by young peop people. They're not professionals. A
Speaker 6: lot going on, No wonder you had heard issues? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 6: Like I said, I can almost name the four arders
Speaker 6: that got plugged up.
Speaker 7: Why what?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 3: Whats the Minga's Hills? Yeah I can. I can go
Speaker 3: through it for you right right. No, But you know,
Speaker 3: thanks for joining. What a great life. I hope you
Speaker 3: come back. I hope you. I wish you know you
Speaker 3: can come back and be a regular guest for me
Speaker 3: every now and again.
Speaker 7: I really had a good time doing it.
Speaker 3: You get a hold of your wife. I have to
Speaker 3: talk to her.
Speaker 7: I had a good time.
Speaker 3: She runs the show at your place.
Speaker 6: I can see why they get you, like you get
Speaker 6: paid six figures for this, and now that I've been
Speaker 6: here with you, it's easy to see why you're.
Speaker 3: A six figure. Are you adding the point zero zero figures?
Speaker 6: I now understand why you have like three or four
Speaker 6: people handing your finances. From what I after being here
Speaker 6: with you for two hours, you need that. You need
Speaker 6: to here a little bit of that. Sally with Ryan show,
Speaker 6: he's running the show.
Speaker 3: Don't say that he's going to talk to his attorney
Speaker 3: in fact, to have borrow tabox. I'm going to via
Speaker 3: Mora to have me some some spaghetti or something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: thanks for joining moping. I'm sure you don't know.
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about it. We'll talk about a great time. Guys,
Speaker 3: you can jog over here. Jo back. Yeah, thanks so much.
Speaker 3: It were good to go, Okay, great, Thanks everybody,