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Dogmanencounters dot com, Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Sean. Sean.

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on the show. I'm really

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excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's great having you. Thanks for your time. Sean.

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Please give us a brief bio on yourself.

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Speaker 2: I'm a forty two year old kind of a what's

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i'd like to call myself. I'm from Vancouver Island, but

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I currently live in Alberta and yea, I grew up

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in the woods as much as I possibly could be,

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and the less and less over the years just because

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of work, but definitely I love the outdoors and love nature.

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Speaker 1: Well, nothing wrong with that. That's where all the fun

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stuff is out there in the woods. What's been the

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strangest thing that you've seen in the woods that didn't

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involve a sasquatch or a dog man.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, I guess it's kind of random, but one

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day we were in the woods on a big plateau

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overlooking the ocean, and a huge pod of oorc of whales.

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About twenty five of them started feeding on some school

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of fish. But it was pretty surreal to watch, for sure.

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Definitely once in a lifetime opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd say so. Yeah, very few people see that

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sort of thing. And if you grew up on Vancouver

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Island when you were a kid, did your parents let

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you just head out into the woods and explore and

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you had to be back by dinner time? Or did

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you grow up with parents that were more helicopter parents

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that wanted to keep you around all the time.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we were gone off on our pedal bikes

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from whenever we wanted to leave for most of the

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day un till it got dark half the time, so

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we might come back for some lunch when we wanted to.

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But yeah, we had free rain to go off into

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the woods, and we lived on acres that attached to

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more woods in a river and a mountain and everything.

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So pretty neat way to grow up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say so, That's what I was about to say, Wow,

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what a neat way to grow up. That would be great.

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I can only imagine the things I get into out there.

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I've always wanted to live on Vancouver Island. So I'm

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really jealous, I really am.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really neat. We used to do tons

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of mountain biking. We do ocean sports out on sailboats

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and speedboats, and yeah, tons of hiking, anything to do

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with rivers and fishing and always exploring in the woods.

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For sure.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a great time when you were spending all

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that time out there in the woods with your buddies.

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Did anything ever happen that you think might have been

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sasquatch related or dogman related but you just didn't realize

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what you were dealing with back then.

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Speaker 2: Possibly I didn't really know much about the idea of

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sasquatch and definitely not dogmen. When I was a kid,

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the biggest thing we had was black bears and cougars,

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so kind of I just would have assumed that if

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there was some commotion in the woods by something big

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when I was young, it would have assumed would have

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been a bear or a cougar. It usually would have

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just steered clear of the area, but didn't have any

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direct anything that I would now look back and say

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was probably a sasquatch. Do men as a child.

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Speaker 1: Well, well that's good then, now that you know, the

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sasquatch and dog men are definitely out there. Do you

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in a way wish that you knew about that back

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then so you wouldn't have had it into the woods?

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Or are you glad you didn't know so you were

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able to get all these great experiences?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I think I'm glad that I didn't know,

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although who knows if i'd had a decent experience like

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my sasquatch experience that I had before as an adult

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a young adult, and then also my dog man experience

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that I had relatively recently, neither of them really scared

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me that much, So I think it is either way,

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it's ever it was meant to be, is how it's

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meant to be. But now, knowing how prevalent they are,

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I wouldn't have been surprised at all that they've seen

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me or they've been around. They probably just never bothered us.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm pretty sure that's almost a given that they've

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seen you quite a few times, probably more times than

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you'd be comfortable with. Yeah, you're still here, no trouble,

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no problem, So yeah, that fits, that's how normally goes. Now,

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do you have any kids, Shine.

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Speaker 2: I do I have two little boys. They're eight and ten.

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Speaker 1: I see two boys eight and ten. What are your

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thoughts on allowing them to head into the forest the

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way you did when you're a kid and just explore

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and have fun. Do you let them do that unsupervised

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or do you allow them to head into the woods

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but only if you're there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're it's a lot different these days. Just my

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wife especially is a bit more strict, maybe a bit

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of a helicopter mom. I'm a bit more relaxed, but

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definitely they're city kids. They've been raised in town, so

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we have a small acres that we go to and

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we do activities, and they enjoy being outdoors, but they're not,

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you know, wood smart the way that we were. They

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didn't grow up exploring without their parents. Yeah, we definitely

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don't give them anywhere near the kind of freedom that

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we used to have.

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Speaker 1: How times have changed. I know when I grew up,

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and apparently when you grew up, that's all you wanted

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to do was just go out and explore and be

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away from home, spending time in the woods. That was priceless.

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But yeah, kids nowadays, all they want to do, it

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seems like, is just sit in the house and play

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video games. So, like I said, how times have definitely

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changed from what I understand. You build a tree cabin

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for your kids. Is it in the woods pretty close

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to your home or is it a fairly good distance away.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's actually at an acreage which is about forty

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minutes away from where we live. So we live in

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a small town and then we own an acreage about

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forty minutes away where we just do recreation things like ATVs.

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And I'm setting up a zip line in this cabin

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and stuff for them there.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that sounds like a great time. Have they

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spent the night in that cabin yet?

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Speaker 2: That tree cabmen, Yeah, we've done a few supers.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if my dad would have built

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a tree cabin for me, I wouldn't have known what

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to do. I would have been beside myself. I'd say,

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your kids haven't made They sure did hit the lottery

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when it came to passing out dads.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. Yeah. It was my little boy.

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It was his third birthday when we took him out

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and showed him the cabin that I already had basically

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ninety five percent built, and they just helped me put

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their last finishing touches on it.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, That really is considering the fact that

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you've had both a sasquatch encounter and a dog mean encounter,

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how would you compare and contrast the two, whether it's

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like to encounter a sasquatch compared to a dog man.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think just because of the situation of how

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started I was when I had the sasquatch encounter, just

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the fact that I was asleep and I didn't it

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was in the dark, and I couldn't see you at

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the start of the sighting, I was probably more scared

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by the south squash citing. And then the other factor

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is that I'd also since listened to so many podcasts

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of yours about dog men, So I think a lot

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of my fear factor was kind of lowered when I

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had my dogmen encounter. So, I mean, totally different animals

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are creatures, but different situations.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you didn't really freak out. I'm glad

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you weren't traumatized by the dog man experience. Thank goodness

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for that. But understand there are a lot of people

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who have dog me and encounters, who have listened to

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the show. That didn't stop them from being traumatized, very

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traumatized by their experiences. So I'm just glad that how

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your encounter played out, it didn't traumatize. Yeah. And speaking

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of which, let's get to that now. Please tell us

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about that encounter, given us every last detail that comes

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to mind.

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Speaker 2: All right. So I was on Vancouver Island and when

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it happened, and I have a car hobby. So a

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part of my car hobby is old bucks and vehicles,

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and so because of that, while I was walking in

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the woods one day, I found an old vehicle and

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I had already kind of scoped it out a previous time,

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so I knew that I could probably take a few

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parts off of it. And it's not like stealing. This

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is an abandoned vehicles that was, you know, in the

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bush for years and years, so it's not like anybody

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would mind. But anyways, what happened was I put a

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jack under the car and I jacked it up. And

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when I went to get the jack underneath the car,

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I saw a deer and the deer had been dismembered,

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so it kind of looked like it's arms and it's

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all four of its legs had been pulled out of

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the sockets and it was just neatly lined up so

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all four legs the torso. The head was kind of

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up near the top but still attached to the torso,

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the arms and legs out of this deer and stabbed

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it there for I don't know, for storage, almost so obviously,

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I got pretty spooked when I saw that, so I

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just I just wasn't thinking dogmen at the time. I

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was thinking maybe cougar or something, But even then, thinking back,

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I don't really think a cougar could really dismember a

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deer that particular way. But anyways, I just kind of

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figured i'd get out of the area some sort of

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predator was there, So I stood up and I started

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walking away, And as I was walking away, it felt

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like I was kind of being flanked by some sort

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of something in the woods. I didn't really know what

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it was, so this kind of went on for a

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little while. As I'm walking away from the situation, I

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could hear something kind of not too close but not

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too too far away, maybe twenty yards away, but I

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couldn't really see what it was. Once in a while,

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I could see a flash of a bit of brown,

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a bit of color, but I definitely couldn't make out

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what it was. And that continued for quite a while

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as I as I walked out and you could hear

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it crunching branches. Definitely something had to have been something

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fairly large, but I still didn't know what it was

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until eventually it basically came out from behind a tree

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and showed itself to me, and it was like your

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textbook kind of dog man up on hind legs and

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showing me its teeth and kind of snarling at me

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a bit. But for some reason, it just didn't didn't

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seem as scary as maybe I was just more prepared

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for it than most people, being that I knew they existed.

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Still a bit scary, but not He was far fairly

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far away, and it just didn't seem really quite as

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mean as he was trying to make himself look.

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Speaker 1: Was my thought, Well, that's still close enough. That's still

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pretty close. Twenty yards when comes to these guys, feels

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like two feet in most cases, So I think we

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would describe that situation differently. Apparently, please describe him for us.

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I know you say he was a textbook dog man.

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But please take your time now, from top to bottom,

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Please tell us about his appearance as accurately as you can.

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Speaker 2: Sure, so, kind of almost like a German shepherd kind

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of face, head, nose pronounced nose, long pointy ears, obviously big,

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big snarly teeth, very jacked like, very muscular, big shoulders,

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very strong, very strong defined arms, nasty claws, a big lung.

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Not fingernails, but real claws. I'm pretty sure it had

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five I believe it was like a I believe it

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had five fingers. It appeared to have claws on them.

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it had a tail or not because it was spacing

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on to me. But yeah, definitely very muscular, a little

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bit of a thin waist, muscular legs. The legs sort

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of had those well it's a canine type leg looks

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like it's spent backwards sort of thing. And yeah, he

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was kind of snarling at me, just kind of showing

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as scared as I probably should have been.

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Speaker 1: That's really hard for me to understand here. He had

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this dog man about twenty yards away from you, snarling

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at you, and he looked the way he did, but

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you weren't that frightened. What do you attribute that to?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I think it was just I'd listened to almost

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all the all of your Dogmen podcasts over the years,

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and I mean, except for the there's odd ones where

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someone shoots one or something and then they have an altercation,

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but most of the time, it just seems like they

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just really enjoy scaring the crap out of people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, normally they do, but that doesn't preclude the chance

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that you might get hurt. I mean, there are deviant

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dogmen out there that will kill you if you get

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the opportunity. That's obviously once in a blue moon. It's

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not the norm, but they are out there. So yeah,

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the fact that you were able to deal with that

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so well without moving the needle all that much, that

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really does come as a surprise. But that definitely beats

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you being traumatized by the experience. So thank goodness for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of I feel like I knew that

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at that point when it was kind of snartling at

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me a bit, I felt like, if if it was

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gonna get me already would have. I just kind of

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felt like, Okay, it's just going to show me, you

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know it just it just wants to scare me. At

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that point, I didn't feel like it was more scary

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when he was kind of flanking me and I couldn't

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see him very well, you know, you kind of see

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the outline of something. I think that was more scary

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because I wasn't sure, you know, when or if he

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was gonna come after me or anything. I mean, I'd

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had I'd had bear bears charged me before in the woods.

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I used to do forestry surveying and stuff, and could

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be very scary. When you don't know, maybe don't know

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where they're you know, whether they're actually going to attack

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you or if they're just trying to scare you. It

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can be unnerving for sure.

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Speaker 1: Oh I sure can. Yeah, definitely when you've been charged

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by the bears like that. Like you said, how did

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you compare the fear that you felt in those cases

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compared to when you were face to face with that

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dog man.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess just different differently. Maybe maybe

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my experiences over the years have sort of hardened being

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up just you know, between bears and people in life,

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and just you know, I'm not a young, scared youngster anymore.

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I guess definitely just a whole different situation. Same with

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the comparing the siting to the dog man encounter. They're

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just totally different categories. And same with the bears.

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Speaker 1: I think, Well, like I said, thank goodness, it didn't

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traumatize yet. We'll take that all day long. How far

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was it from where you encountered that dog man back

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to your truck or your car?

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Speaker 2: How far back was it? Probably about a mile a mile?

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Speaker 1: Did you get the impression that it followed you all

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the way back just part of the way. What impression

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did you get on that?

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Speaker 2: As soon as he showed his teeth and kind of

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snarled at me, I just kind of didn't really give

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it to you know. I looked at it for a

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second or two, and then I just continued walking, and

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then I didn't really hear it after that. I think

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it just left me alone.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank goodness for that. Was that bick actually in

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the woods or just on the edge of the woods.

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Speaker 2: It was in the woods. There'd been some overgrown roads.

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It was old logging roads that used to be opened

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up so people you know, it could have been a

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stolen vehicle or a broken vehicle. Hard to say, but

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people would have probably drove it over the logging roads

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maybe thirty forty years ago, and then it got overgrown

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ever since.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would explain how it got there. It doesn't

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sound like you got the parts. You went there, Well,

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you didn't go there looking for the parts, but it

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sounds like you didn't get the parts that you wanted

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to get off of it. Is that accurate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely never went back to that vehicle.

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Speaker 1: I can understand. Why did you ever have any thoughts

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about trying to go back to get those parts?

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Speaker 2: Not particularly, It wasn't It was much more appetizing to

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order something on the computer in order to go to

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a junk yard in town.

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Speaker 1: I understand. I don't blame you at all. You also

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told us about that mangled deer that you found. Do

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you think the dog may made its presence known to

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you because you focused your attention on that deer the

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way you did, or for some other reason?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was one of those. I think

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that the dog men realized that I had basically found

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the deer, and they were just kind of being protective

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over their hunt or their kill. I think I've heard

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a few similar situations of people people that were hunting themselves,

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and you know, a dog man kind of like claims

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their deer or dogma has their own deer and kind

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of gets a bit defensive over it. So I think

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that's all it is.

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Speaker 1: And just might be right about that. Did the deer

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look fed upon?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. Yeah, I wanted to talk a

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bit about more about that. So it appeared like the

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arms and legs, or I say arms and legs, they're

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all four legs had been just pulled out of the sockets.

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They didn't look like they were chewed in, you know,

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nibbled off or nothing. It just looked that they were

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yanked out, which most animals, most other animals couldn't really do.

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I can't picture a deer. I can't picture a bear

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doing that. I can't even picture a cougar doing that.

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You'd almost need to have liked like hands like a

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dogment or obviously a person wouldn't be strong enough to

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do it. But I believe these dog men are strong

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enough to pull the legs off of a deer.

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Speaker 1: Well, they sure are. It's hard to imagine the strength

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they have, they can definitely do that. Do you know

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if that area is known for any sasquatch encounters happening.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's hard to say because there's so many there's

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so much folklore about sasquatch on Big Island, so there's

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a mix between the legend and reality that I'm not

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sure how much people even talk about it in the

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you know, people there's mountains called Sasquatch Mountain and things

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like that, but it's just not it's hard to say

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where reality starts and where the legend starts. I guess

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where legend ends and the reality starts. So I don't

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know how much activity or settings has been have been

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identified in that area, but it's definitely prime habitat.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I believe it all dead. It is. Well,

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now that we're talking about sasquatch, let's talk about your

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sasquatching counter. Now, please give us all the details about that.

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Speaker 2: Sure, So that one was it was in a place

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called Hinton, Alberta and Hinton is It's kind of a mountain,

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mountainous area and very touristy, tons of beautiful rivers and stuff.

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It's very very similar to Vancouver Island, kind of area

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as opposed to like the prairie areas of alberta very lush,

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green mountain side. So anyways, I was doing solo camping.

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So I had a pickup truck with a canopy topper

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on the back, and I had a bed set up

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in the back of the truck, and I'd had a

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campfire and drank some beers and stuff, and then I

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was sleeping in the back of this truck. But I

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didn't have any I didn't have any flashlight or anything

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handy because I had no real I planned on sleeping

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until the sun came up, and so I had no

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need for having a flashlight beside me. I didn't think.

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But what happened was at about two in the morning,

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I was deep asleep and I was awoken by basically stomping.

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Something was stomping so loud, so hard on the ground

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that it was shaking the whole truck. So as I

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was sleeping, I woke up to this thump, thump, and

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it was kind of a bipedal thumping that was getting

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closer and closer to my truck. And so, I mean,

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I had heard of saskquatch, but I didn't necessarily not

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believe in them, but I definitely they never seen one,

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so I thought was maybe like I thought, a moose

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stomping on the ground or a bear, but I didn't

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really know why they would be stomping. And so anyways,

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once whatever it was got close to the vehicle, it

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was sniffing at the vehicle, and I did have some

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food in the vehicle in the back of the truck

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with me, and so long story short, eventually I could

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hear the animal breathing or the creature breathing, and it's

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lung inhalation and exhalations were took so long that I

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figured the lungs have to be huge on whatever this

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thing is. So anyways, it then carefully just walked away.

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No more stomping, no more shaking. It just walked away.

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I could barely I couldn't even really hear it leave,

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but you couldn't hear the breathing anymore. So once as

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soon as I I could hear that it wasn't or

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I couldn't hear it breathing anymore, I jumped out of

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my sleeping bag, jumped out to the back of the truck,

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hopped into the cab of the truck, turned it on,

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and turned the truck around one hundred and eighty degrees

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to leave the area, And what happened was when I

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turned the truck around in the headlights, I could see

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the sasquatch going into the woods, but he was still

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pretty clear to see, and he kind of looked back

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at me like an old paddy, like an old patty

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over the shoulder look, and then went off into the

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into the bushes. So I was safe in my truck

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and the sasquatch was gone into the woods. But it

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was definitely pretty scary.

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Speaker 1: Oh I bet it was. Can you describe that sasquatch

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for us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, So I went back the next day to

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try to get a benchmark of the height based on

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the trees and stuff, and I estimated it to be

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somewhere around nine nine to eleven feet tall, So definitely

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a big boy. And he would be kind of like

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your cone head style sasasquatch, because I know there's a

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few different variants. And he was not overly muscular, but

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definitely very big and yeah, like long fur or not

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enough sorry not fur hair, hands down close to the knees,

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swinging its arms while he walked. Definitely huge, but not

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jacked up like the way the dog man was.

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Speaker 1: I'll bet that was the site you're never going to

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forget and understandably so, do you think all that stopping

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was just an attempt on the Sasquatch's part to get

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you to leave? Or do you think it was done

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for some other reason?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it was probably just to scare me off.

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I think I can't think of any other reason why

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you would do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably what it was done for. You're probably

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right he said. You went back the next day to

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look for evidence and just have a general look around.

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Did you go alone or with someone?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I went alone, but I felt comfortable just because

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I was in daylight and close to my truck, and

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I wasn't too scared to go back to the area.

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But it was very hard ground, so there was no

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tracks or evidence, but I was able to kind of

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park the truck where it had been located, and then

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that way I could just kind of look off to

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the same distance to kind of compare the heights of

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the trees, just to get an idea of where I

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thought that where it must have been for height wise,

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and it probably was at least ten feet, but I

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can't you know. Obviously I can't prove that, but I

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would definitely say, you know, nine to eleven feet tall

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and it was a male. I did when it kind

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of turned, I could see some male parts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was definitely a big boy. Well it's

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about time for us to get out of here, Sean,

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But before we do, do you have any clothes and

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comments you want to put out there for us?

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Speaker 2: No, I just wanted to encourage people to keep going

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up in the woods and documenting their stories and raising

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awareness to this because there's still so many people that

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have no idea that it's a real thing. They just

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think it's a folklore. And just wanted to thank you

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very much for your time and your efforts, and you're

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doing an amazing job documenting and supporting the people who

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do have traumatic experiences.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for the good words. I wouldn't have it

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any other way, but have said that, thanks again so

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much for coming on sharing the details of those experiences

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with us. I really appreciate it, and I hope you

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have a great night.