Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
Speaker 1: demand on the iHeartRadio app. Okay, it's time for swamp watch.
Speaker 2: Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 3: The government doesn't gonna make it like a reality TV show.
Speaker 4: A bad noose, always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington,
Speaker 4: d C.
Speaker 5: Hey, Joe.
Speaker 4: A town hall too clearly built on a swamp and
Speaker 4: in so many ways.
Speaker 2: Still a swamp. I have to watching Malarkey boy said,
Speaker 2: drained the swamp.
Speaker 6: I said, Oh, that's so he keepsh You.
Speaker 1: Know the thing, so the voters that this debate is
Speaker 1: trying to reach, uh, they say, is a small group
Speaker 1: of no more than ten percent of the electorate who
Speaker 1: are largely moderates, who are undecided, or they're soft Democrats
Speaker 1: or soft Republicans.
Speaker 7: This is research from MSNBC. Right exciting here I'm talking
Speaker 7: about the pre viewing tonight.
Speaker 1: This was written by a chief strategist for at the
Speaker 1: time the reelection campaign of George w in two thousand
Speaker 1: and four, and he says that he did a back
Speaker 1: of the envelope calculus of how much a debate could
Speaker 1: affect the race he says, in presidential races, in the
Speaker 1: final weeks, the goal is to win as many campaign
Speaker 1: days as possible. And you've heard that before, right, winning
Speaker 1: the news cycle, winning as many campaign days as possible,
Speaker 1: and then hopefully by election day, he writes, the campaign
Speaker 1: has won far more than the opposition, and by the calculus,
Speaker 1: this debate, he says, is worth around twenty campaign days,
Speaker 1: nearly a third of the day's remaining in the campaign,
Speaker 1: and he writes it's for.
Speaker 2: A couple of reasons.
Speaker 1: Number one, voters give far more credibility to what they
Speaker 1: see and hear in a debate than they do of
Speaker 1: campaign commercials scripted events. That the debates are seen as
Speaker 1: more genuine, authentic insight into the candidates.
Speaker 2: Also, number two, the reach of.
Speaker 1: The debate is far larger than any audience you're going
Speaker 1: to get from these rallies or the commercials, even the
Speaker 1: scripted events things like that.
Speaker 7: That makes sense, it sure to, especially the credibility factor,
Speaker 7: because when you watch the commercials, you know they're obviously
Speaker 7: coming from that person's point of view. When you hear
Speaker 7: them actually answer a question, say from a debate moderator,
Speaker 7: seems like it. There's more as he said, credibility. This
Speaker 7: is Matthew Dowd. By the way, if you follow politician,
Speaker 7: you might know that name.
Speaker 1: Thank you for finding that, because I did not. So
Speaker 1: the perception, he writes, of Trump is pretty set in
Speaker 1: stone among not only his base, but also this key
Speaker 1: debate voter group. The moderate voter group, he writes, does
Speaker 1: not like Trump. What they're looking for tonight is a
Speaker 1: reason to support Harris. They said that Harris needs to
Speaker 1: give it that comfort to lock in with her this
Speaker 1: voting block, and that it's not going to be a
Speaker 1: head level decision by the voters. But we like what
Speaker 1: we were talking about yesterday, a gut level connection that
Speaker 1: they get from her at the debate.
Speaker 7: Well, that's what we were talking about early. I mean,
Speaker 7: who has more to gain or lose? I mean, she
Speaker 7: has to convince people that she's up to the task
Speaker 7: of being president. He's already been president, so we kind
Speaker 7: of know what we're getting with him. So that's why,
Speaker 7: from my perspective, she has a lot more upside than
Speaker 7: he does.
Speaker 1: So Dowd wrote three things that she needs to do,
Speaker 1: things that are crucial for moderate voters to jump into
Speaker 1: her camp. Number one, he writes, her ability to talk
Speaker 1: intelligently and passionately about issues like the economy, democracy, freedom's, healthcare, guns,
Speaker 1: that it's not so much the details, but it's her command.
Speaker 2: It's does she have the gravitas.
Speaker 7: Because that's one of the criticisms with her is that
Speaker 7: she has to have a teleprompter, she has to have notes.
Speaker 7: She deteriorates into that term word salad, which I love
Speaker 7: that term true.
Speaker 2: It's a great term.
Speaker 1: Well, she projects strength. That's what people are looking for.
Speaker 1: I think that was Biden's problem as you got close
Speaker 1: to the end recently, right number two. They say she
Speaker 1: needs to hold him accountable for his words and actions,
Speaker 1: not only at the debate, but in years prior. That's
Speaker 1: going to be a problem in my opinion, because he
Speaker 1: is such a lie lie, lie, lie lie guy, like
Speaker 1: untruth on truth, on truth whatever. He fudges things, things
Speaker 1: that he says to believes to be true or not true.
Speaker 1: But he does it so often that if you turn
Speaker 1: into just a fact checker, that's not going to be
Speaker 1: good for you either. If you're spending all your time
Speaker 1: saying that guy's wrong, you're not really getting that grat.
Speaker 7: That's been one of the criticisms of the hosts and
Speaker 7: the moderators in the past of the Biden Trump debate
Speaker 7: and even of the Harris interview, that they don't spend
Speaker 7: enough time saying no, wait a minute, but go ahead.
Speaker 1: And then number thir three down writes is that if
Speaker 1: she is perceived as comfort in her own skin, not
Speaker 1: taking herself too seriously, that these voters will give that
Speaker 1: credit and they will see it as strength.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think that's an issue. I mean, she
Speaker 7: seems perfectly comfortable in her own skin, don't you.
Speaker 1: Think lately she has? Yeah, I don't know how it's
Speaker 1: going to be. Off the cuff. She has appeared to
Speaker 1: be uncomfortable in her own skin in some situations, but
Speaker 1: I think she's done very well at fixing that. All
Speaker 1: the optic whatever boot camp she was in as they
Speaker 1: were trying to make this Biden massage, this Biden thing,
Speaker 1: and Pelosi's working the phones and everything, whatever boot camp
Speaker 1: she was in with somebody who worked on elocution and
Speaker 1: body language and the way she comes off where she's
Speaker 1: smiling but not too big, so she's avoiding the Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton school marm type thing that person, and she's.
Speaker 7: Gotten better much better, which says that she's paying attention
Speaker 7: to her advisors right and learning right, improving and because
Speaker 7: remember in twenty nineteen, I mean, she got no traction
Speaker 7: and dropped out. Yeah, and then you know, has not
Speaker 7: gotten high marks for being vice president, though I'm not
Speaker 7: sure who ever gets high much from being vice president.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's why they had they brought in Tulci
Speaker 1: Gabbert to help Trump get rid of because she just
Speaker 1: eviscerated her from what I remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been reading about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, coming up next, have you we should probably
Speaker 1: spend a couple of minutes on this Haitian immigrants eating
Speaker 1: ducks in Ohio story, because it's one of those Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton is trafficking children out of the pizza Rhea stories
Speaker 1: that's getting.
Speaker 8: So much traction. Well, okay, you remember that, I remember
Speaker 8: that story. I don't know if I would equate the two.
Speaker 8: I mean that one was one hundred percent made up.
Speaker 8: This one at least has some origins in fact. Well,
Speaker 8: they're not eating no, not that out of the neighborhood,
Speaker 8: that pond, not that part. And we don't know that.
Speaker 2: I do know that, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I know that they're not eating ducks out of the
Speaker 1: neighborhood pond. Okay, are you buying into the conspiracy.
Speaker 9: I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's not impossible to imagine.
Speaker 1: Okay, So back to swamp Watch. There are some polls here,
Speaker 1: so take from them what you will. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical reading the polling for a couple of reasons.
Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, like you said Phil earlier,
Speaker 1: a lot of people were reluctant to say they were
Speaker 1: voting for Trump and then turn around and voted for Trump.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And plus, you know, every election is different. I mean
Speaker 7: we're in uncharted territory right now, and that we really
Speaker 7: never had anybody vote for Kamala Harris as the Democratic
Speaker 7: presidential candidate right after Biden dropped out. She got the
Speaker 7: nomination by acclamation essentially, So the questions and the answers
Speaker 7: that are based on the questions, it's all uncharted territory.
Speaker 1: According to the latest New York Times Siena College poll,
Speaker 1: which is the best funded poll out of all of them,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is up forty eight percent to forty seven
Speaker 1: percent over Kamala Harris. So that is within the margin
Speaker 1: of error. The margin of error for that one is
Speaker 1: plus or minus two point eight percentage points, much larger,
Speaker 1: three times as large as that is.
Speaker 7: That divide, But nobody pays attention to the fine print
Speaker 7: of these polls a lot of times true. So if
Speaker 7: it's forty eight to forty seven and the margin of
Speaker 7: errors plus or minus five percent, then essentially it's you
Speaker 7: could it could go either way way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The New York Times poll notes that voters believe they
Speaker 1: need to learn more about Harris while their opinions on
Speaker 1: Trump are set. And that's what that strategist that talked
Speaker 1: to MSNBC said as well.
Speaker 2: Right, everyone has their mind made up about Trump.
Speaker 1: They're just kind of waiting for Harris to woo them
Speaker 1: so that they'll turn out the vote.
Speaker 7: That's why I think it's going to be so fascinating.
Speaker 7: So there's so many different aspects to it. You know,
Speaker 7: it's not two seasoned veterans who know each other who've
Speaker 7: sparred before going at it. It's I think it's first
Speaker 7: of all, I'm going to make a prediction, okay, and
Speaker 7: you can hold me through this tomorrow.
Speaker 2: You can chastise me or congratulate me. I would never.
Speaker 7: I say, I believe that Harris is going to score
Speaker 7: a decisive victory because I don't think that Trump is
Speaker 7: going to be able to control himself as his handlers
Speaker 7: want him to and avoid degenerating into name calling.
Speaker 2: And I think that's going to be held against him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't, he can't. There's nobody's gonna win over
Speaker 1: with name calling tonight.
Speaker 2: But does he realize that right or does he even care? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But enough about the things that matter. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Haitian immigrants eating the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Ducks, shall we.
Speaker 1: There is a far right theory that is being floated
Speaker 1: and has weighted pretty heavily on social media among the
Speaker 1: echo chamber that there are Haitian immigrants in Ohio that
Speaker 1: are stealing people's pets and animals and eating them cats,
Speaker 1: ducks from the local pond, and it is catching a
Speaker 1: lot of traction among the far right conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 7: Well, there are apparently a large number of Haitian immigrants
Speaker 7: in Springfield, Ohio, right in the where they're legally with
Speaker 7: the GPS Temporary Protective status there for jobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Biden program, and that's something that you
Speaker 1: can fight over right. If they're taking up jobs that
Speaker 1: people could be using in that community, that's one thing.
Speaker 1: But to go so far as to say they're eating kids,
Speaker 1: cats and dogs and ducks is too far. You know,
Speaker 1: repeated it jd Vance of course, Ohio's jd Vance. And
Speaker 1: so there's an interesting a quote from a Springfield police officer.
Speaker 1: We said, people are using this as an opportunity to
Speaker 1: spread hate or spread fear. We get reports that quote,
Speaker 1: the Haitians are killing ducks and a lot of our parks,
Speaker 1: I'll get this one are eating vegetables right out of
Speaker 1: the aisle in the grocery store.
Speaker 7: And then he goes but then he goes on to say,
Speaker 7: but we really haven't seen any of that. It's really
Speaker 7: frustrating as a community. It's not helpful as we try
Speaker 7: to move forward. Did you see this AI picture of Trump.
Speaker 1: He's got a cat under each arm and he's running
Speaker 1: away from what appeared to be Haitian immigrants.
Speaker 2: I mean, is that funny?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think Ai. It's what we're dealing with.
Speaker 7: It just this is like how we sort of this
Speaker 7: is what we've come to, you know, criticizing people for
Speaker 7: something that doesn't even happen, and using it to fuel divisiveness, hatred, discrimination,
Speaker 7: pick your favorite word.
Speaker 1: I mean, I liken it to the Hillary Clinton trafficking
Speaker 1: children and the pizzeria story from twenty sixteen, But it's
Speaker 1: up there.
Speaker 10: I mean.
Speaker 1: And the fact that people believe this, that's the really
Speaker 1: sad part. That's like the mentally ill sad part of
Speaker 1: fake news. That people the number of people that actually
Speaker 1: believe that Haitians are going to the neighborhood pull ponds
Speaker 1: and taking ducks out and then just eating them right
Speaker 1: in front of the children is insane.
Speaker 2: First they cut their heads off, right, Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: hold on, I got to pull up a food joke
Speaker 2: here as.
Speaker 7: I have a really good one, but given out earlier discussions,
Speaker 7: I can't say it.
Speaker 2: Oh really, why not? Is it dirty?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 2: It has some mature elements to it. Oh, let's let's
Speaker 2: do it. Can we do it on the food?
Speaker 11: On?
Speaker 12: The food joke has some mature elements? Does it involve
Speaker 12: a hot dog or a donut?
Speaker 1: Hey, Richie, what where did the spaghetti go to dance?
Speaker 1: I don't know where the meatball? Oh my god, let's
Speaker 1: hear the dirty one.
Speaker 6: Is with us?
Speaker 1: Our fork reporter extraordinary and we're talking about funguses today,
Speaker 1: we're talking about hot dogs, cinnamon to's.
Speaker 2: Where do you want to start, Neil.
Speaker 12: You can't go wrong on this list. It's about eight
Speaker 12: stories deep and they're all a little bit twisted. I
Speaker 12: like to do you want to start with the fungus
Speaker 12: because you mentioned that. Sure, so this is interesting. As
Speaker 12: you both know, the number comes up a lot with waste,
Speaker 12: food waste, and food waste is between thirty and forty percent.
Speaker 12: Now that those can be things that maybe we don't
Speaker 12: use as much, tops of carrots, banana peels, but also
Speaker 12: actual byproducts or things that are going that go into
Speaker 12: making other foods. Right, And this is a fascinating story
Speaker 12: of science that what they've done is they've taken what
Speaker 12: we refer to as waste, some of these food wastes,
Speaker 12: and they've introduced them to a fungus. The fungus grows
Speaker 12: and ferments and creates a a new byproduct that is
Speaker 12: actually edible, which is great. Nutritional, which is great, but
Speaker 12: also it's it renews. It's flavorful and people tend to
Speaker 12: like it, but it renews that so called waste into
Speaker 12: a new food product. And the closest I can describe
Speaker 12: this too from everything I've read about it is that
Speaker 12: it is like an ingredient that is already used in
Speaker 12: vegan vegan cheeses called nutritional yeast, which tends to make
Speaker 12: things taste like cheddar, like cheese. This particular process has
Speaker 12: been around for thousands of years, I believe in Indonesia,
Speaker 12: and it's been used to It's used to make soy
Speaker 12: sauce and things like that. So this could be a
Speaker 12: new way to squeeze more nutritional value out of things
Speaker 12: that we would consider waste.
Speaker 2: It's sustainable. There's the big it's green. They love green too,
Speaker 2: green sustainable.
Speaker 12: So it's pretty fast, fascinating tech. It's already used by
Speaker 12: sub Michelin starred chefs as it creates this new flavor
Speaker 12: and texture, and so it's not you know, it's not
Speaker 12: cheap to produce at this point in this particular way.
Speaker 12: But this new aspora neurosporo rather is pretty fascinating. They're
Speaker 12: saying that they're they're messing around with making these sauteed
Speaker 12: patties that are it doesn't sound sexy, I'm sorry, composed
Speaker 12: of soy pulp that.
Speaker 1: Has this soy Pulp that's got nothing but sex involved.
Speaker 12: Yeah, Soy Pulp is opening on the Sahara stage at
Speaker 12: Coachella this year. So it's just it's kind of it's bizarre,
Speaker 12: but it makes sense. That's how we kind of find
Speaker 12: new products is sometimes you know that the first person
Speaker 12: that found booze was by accident. Hey, how can the
Speaker 12: guy drinking the grapes.
Speaker 2: Is all weird right out?
Speaker 12: And it's funny, you know, because these things just happen
Speaker 12: it and that's how we've learned about how to preserve
Speaker 12: and new things.
Speaker 2: How did we find hot dogs? How did we find
Speaker 2: hot dogs? Let's put this lips and ask to get well, technically, well,
Speaker 2: they don't the way that sounds as, isn't that what
Speaker 2: it's made out of? That's a check that fetish page.
Speaker 12: There's a whole dedicated.
Speaker 7: But in the beginning of this piece, it talks about
Speaker 7: the estimate of the food supply that's wasted in this
Speaker 7: country and says, thirty to forty Is that a realistic number?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Actually it's closer. It seems so high. It is
Speaker 2: incredibly high.
Speaker 12: And I don't think we understand how much food waste
Speaker 12: and how byproducts, whether it's coffee grounds, whether any of
Speaker 12: these things they do have further uses. Coffee grounds could
Speaker 12: be used in the garden. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 12: there's many countries that use banana peels for tea, and
Speaker 12: we'll use them for other things as well. There we
Speaker 12: have to get better at using those things because.
Speaker 2: The food supply.
Speaker 7: You don't think of coffee grounds and banana peels, I
Speaker 7: mean you think of the food.
Speaker 12: Well, there's that as well.
Speaker 1: Hot Dogs are made with the muscles of animal meat.
Speaker 1: Other parts of the animals, such as the liver and
Speaker 1: the hearts, may also be used.
Speaker 12: But here's the thing they're not. I've been to plants.
Speaker 12: I've been to where they manufacture hot dogs. I've been
Speaker 12: to the coffee plant. First of all, it is the
Speaker 12: cleanest place you've ever been to in your entire life.
Speaker 12: You could literally eat off that floor, no joke.
Speaker 2: I would absolutely eat off the floor. Ye are you kidding?
Speaker 2: I don't care if the floor is dirty.
Speaker 12: Excuse me, where's the bacon red.
Speaker 10: We're in?
Speaker 12: But I will tell you it is. It is clean
Speaker 12: as you could possibly imagine, and they're using you'd be
Speaker 12: surprised the high end cuts that are going into those
Speaker 12: things as well.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: Hot Dogs are increasingly expensive stadiums. They say it'll cost
Speaker 1: you twenty bucks for a beer and a hot dog.
Speaker 1: It's Seattle Rams Chargers beer and a hot dog twenty bucks.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, it's not the hot dog that's
Speaker 1: putting that price all the way up. It's the it's
Speaker 1: the having people pay for the news nose for beer
Speaker 1: because they're going to buy a beer, and why not
Speaker 1: price gouge.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and then you give them the salty dog to
Speaker 12: make sure they come back for another.
Speaker 6: But the the.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah to hands slower, that's salty dog. Hot Dogs
Speaker 2: are great hot dogs at a game. It's just it
Speaker 2: doesn't get back.
Speaker 12: You were the first person I thought of when I
Speaker 12: read this story, because I'm like you not only with
Speaker 12: your job, but you're you love sports, so you're constantly
Speaker 12: going to see them live.
Speaker 1: Yet your brought So what I did the first and
Speaker 1: first couple seasons that I had this job fill for
Speaker 1: the Chargers is every stadium I tried out the brought worst. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we had a four hour pregame, so I had
Speaker 1: extra time, and so I would make my way into
Speaker 1: the concourse from the field, get myself abroad, and then
Speaker 1: I kind of judged the stadium broughts and found the
Speaker 1: best one. My favorite brought was actually at the Oakland Stadium,
Speaker 1: which is now not in use, one of the oldest
Speaker 1: stadiums in the league.
Speaker 2: Had the best brought.
Speaker 1: I mean they had the peppers and the onions and
Speaker 1: the spicy mustard and a bun that held up.
Speaker 2: It was just it was perfect. But that was my thing.
Speaker 2: Every stadium I'd get the brought worst.
Speaker 1: And then I realized that that was probably really bad
Speaker 1: for me, Like I was really overdoing it on the
Speaker 1: night rates.
Speaker 12: Oh that with your daily bacon, your walking bacon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you just had one a week maybe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well that's turned out to be a little bit too
Speaker 1: much for it.
Speaker 2: No fun. Yeah that phil one brought a week.
Speaker 7: By the way, where can you get a beer and
Speaker 7: a hot dog for twenty bucks anymore? Well, that's the
Speaker 7: point with beer close to twenty bucks? Sure, sure, yeah,
Speaker 7: but that's the way. Yeah anywhere, that's that's basically a
Speaker 7: happy meal.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 12: Anyways, everything's so expensive, but keep in mind that you
Speaker 12: are going to be paying out the the nose for
Speaker 12: getting a beer with a hot dogs now at any
Speaker 12: any game.
Speaker 1: All right, Korean cheese, powder fried chicken, all the rage.
Speaker 1: We'll find out where you can get it. Coming up next,
Speaker 1: Neil Sevadra is with us for Tasty Tuesday. I noticed
Speaker 1: that everybody calls it tasty Tuesday right or handles his
Speaker 1: foody Friday. But I was looking at the television today
Speaker 1: and I think it was Fox eleven calls it tasty Tuesday.
Speaker 2: A list. Should we change the name of this? Just
Speaker 2: something to think about.
Speaker 12: Tots Tuesday change potatoes will be like hyper focus. Then
Speaker 12: we'll know if they steal it.
Speaker 2: But he wants something potato so bad.
Speaker 12: I was going over recipes today and one of them
Speaker 12: was a hash with potatoes, and I was like, I'm in.
Speaker 2: All right, potatoes and cheese, power fried chicken. When we
Speaker 2: come back. Deborah Mark has the noose.
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Speaker 2: And yes, we do have a verdict and it is guilty.
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Speaker 7: Wouldn't you expect that to be done before the trial. Yes,
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Speaker 7: justice system, I.
Speaker 1: Would think so. But I don't know enough. I know
Speaker 1: enough to know I don't know everything. Nil Sevedra is
Speaker 1: with us and we are talking food. And what is
Speaker 1: this cheese, powder, fried chicken you speak of.
Speaker 12: It sounds magical, It does, doesn't.
Speaker 1: It looks light and fluffy and fun and I just
Speaker 1: you know, I look at this, I say, I taste
Speaker 1: sodium when I look at this picture.
Speaker 12: And you want to respond to it like a like
Speaker 12: a good person, and you want to go, oh, I
Speaker 12: would never, But then you think about it.
Speaker 2: And you go, I would I wouldn't murder that, right,
Speaker 2: I would just eat it. Yeah, eat it? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: actually direct you to look away. Yeah, you go into
Speaker 2: your shame closet.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you got a shame closet there, Phil where you
Speaker 12: go and you eat the food.
Speaker 2: Nobody should watch you eat. Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah,
Speaker 2: sometimes Gary and I will do this.
Speaker 1: We'll be like at an event or something and we'll
Speaker 1: have like a commercial break to eat something, and we'll
Speaker 1: just say to each other, okay, look away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not going to be something anyone.
Speaker 12: This may be that just for cleanliness. Now, this is
Speaker 12: Korean cheese powder fried chicken. So imagine this break it
Speaker 12: down like a fried chicken, wonderfully done, perfectly crunchy fried chicken, but.
Speaker 2: Tossed in.
Speaker 12: The cheese powder that you you would get like with
Speaker 12: Matt Kraft macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2: Right, So that's basically what it is. That I just
Speaker 2: made a box of Kraft mac and cheese.
Speaker 12: Doesn't crack you up That it says feeds a family
Speaker 12: of four. Yes, and you're like, Hi, I'm a.
Speaker 2: Family of four. It's nice to meet you. I'm chinning.
Speaker 12: Apparently a family of four right here.
Speaker 11: It is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it always gets me.
Speaker 12: So these more and more shops here in the Southland
Speaker 12: are taking to this and some of the combinations are
Speaker 12: they're very wonderful. So imagine not only the powdered cheddar
Speaker 12: or things like that, but they're taking other types of
Speaker 12: powdered cheese. Maybe it's a blue cheese or mars Capone
Speaker 12: or these types of things, and they combine them with
Speaker 12: a cheddar and you get this buttery richness the sharpness
Speaker 12: of some of the other cheeses cheeses and then depending
Speaker 12: on when you eat it, like coming out hot, it's
Speaker 12: going to have one experience. Then if maybe you take
Speaker 12: it home.
Speaker 2: Or it doesn't seem like it would travel well.
Speaker 12: Well fried chicken to me, I like cold fried chicken,
Speaker 12: the next stage's would be exactly it might be. It
Speaker 12: might it might be a different, slightly different texture, but
Speaker 12: they see the flavors.
Speaker 2: Merry well.
Speaker 12: So BHC restaurant in Korea Town's got this there, there's
Speaker 12: bb Q Chicken. It's a chain of Korean fried chicken
Speaker 12: restaurants out of Korea and now have moved here to
Speaker 12: the United States. So this is becoming a very popular thing.
Speaker 12: Of course it has you know, internet appeal as well.
Speaker 12: It is instagram worthy and it looks cool and it's
Speaker 12: got this Some of them had these bright yellow tones
Speaker 12: to them.
Speaker 2: But really, when you think about it, we've you've had
Speaker 2: like cheese popcorn like that.
Speaker 12: So imagine those that crunch that cheese that you know,
Speaker 12: that together in that chicken, but with chicken. So I'm
Speaker 12: by the looking Shannon's eyes. She's gonna run by the Vons,
Speaker 12: grab herself the Kraft Macaroni and cheese, take that little,
Speaker 12: you know, foil packet out of there, then run by,
Speaker 12: Oh we got canes down the street and just get
Speaker 12: a brown paper bag, shake that up, make some magic.
Speaker 2: No, that sounds like too much work. I'll just go
Speaker 2: to one of these Korean places.
Speaker 12: Too much work. You have never called me with a
Speaker 12: question about a food item that was simple. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's something dirty about.
Speaker 12: Raising lamb right now it's a weeesday.
Speaker 1: There's something dirty about, you know, getting into a Kraft
Speaker 1: mac and cheese box and then going to another place
Speaker 1: and getting some fried chicken.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm doing something like doing drugs or
Speaker 1: something you've done like in an alley sold you call
Speaker 1: him to consult when you're cooking. Sometimes, yeah, like for
Speaker 1: such a grocery store.
Speaker 2: Like she'll go, hey, I want to I can't find this.
Speaker 2: What would I do?
Speaker 12: But it's never something normal. It's always like something exotic. Yeah,
Speaker 12: like ten tiers up for midday. It just is not
Speaker 12: something I'm like, really, well, I can google the easy stuff.
Speaker 12: I need to go to you for the more esoteric questions.
Speaker 12: And then sometimes you'll get me on like, uh, I
Speaker 12: would say this, but let me double check it because
Speaker 12: this is my gut and then go, okay, that was all.
Speaker 2: The self taught knowledge of yours. Oh yeah, for the
Speaker 2: most part.
Speaker 12: I mean I've been talking to chefs and stuff like
Speaker 12: that for the last decade and a half. Do you
Speaker 12: watch like the chef shows on Tip? You used to
Speaker 12: quite a bit. I don't watch a whole whole lot
Speaker 12: of TV. But what about the bear? Oh it's fantastic,
Speaker 12: isn't that great? Chef's friends have told me, and from
Speaker 12: what I've seen, it's the most accurate. And one of
Speaker 12: the funny scenes that they say is most accurate is
Speaker 12: they make these little containers, food containers that they use
Speaker 12: for storing and the refrigerators, sauces and things like that.
Speaker 12: And at one point he's sitting I think he's sitting
Speaker 12: in the back and Carmie is drinking something out of one.
Speaker 2: That is so damn chefy. You have no idea.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 12: And the other thing about chefs, and I was joking
Speaker 12: with this with a chef the other day, is chefs
Speaker 12: will go work in a one hundred and ten degree
Speaker 12: in normal weather line in the kitchen in the back
Speaker 12: of the house. They're busting their hump. They will make
Speaker 12: the most beautiful food you've ever seen. They will go
Speaker 12: home later than anybody else on a workday and get crackers, cheese.
Speaker 12: They will wrap a hot dog in a paper towel,
Speaker 12: wet it and then put it in the microwave for
Speaker 12: your twenty six seconds. Totally that will be their dinner.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's so true, and it's insane, and you're like,
Speaker 2: holy hell, Wow. You've been listening to The Gary and
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