1 00:00:04,919 --> 00:00:07,639 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome back to the Surely You Can't 2 00:00:07,719 --> 00:00:12,320 Be Serious Podcast. We are here on our continuing series 3 00:00:12,359 --> 00:00:16,600 of the best video games of nineteen eighty one, and 4 00:00:16,679 --> 00:00:20,399 today we are going to be discussing Mis pac Man. 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,359 Speaker 2: That's miss not missus, not miss not pack Woman, not Crazyato, 6 00:00:27,839 --> 00:00:28,679 not Crazyato. 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: That's for daying. 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Sure not Crazyata. All right, let's get into it. This 9 00:00:32,359 --> 00:00:33,320 is an interesting one. 10 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: Yes, few video games in history reached the status that 11 00:00:38,399 --> 00:00:41,840 pac Man, the original pac Man achieved. Yes, because not 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,600 only was it a big hit in the video arcades, 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,920 but because of this character, the first hero in video games, 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,079 the marketing potential was out of this world. Yes, you 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,280 had pac Man shoes, you had pac Man lunchboxes, you 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,000 had pac Man watches, you had pac Man toilet seats, 17 00:01:02,759 --> 00:01:05,719 which was a perfect thing to have. I think, if 18 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:08,840 you know, look in that way the seat works with 19 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:09,879 its opening closed. 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,159 Speaker 3: Perfect to make that a pac Man. 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,879 Speaker 1: That's it, pac Man cereal, pac Man cartoons. 22 00:01:15,079 --> 00:01:16,359 Speaker 3: Did you watch the pack Man? Yes? 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: I did, and I ate the Cereal, and it spawned 24 00:01:19,159 --> 00:01:24,680 a multitude of sequels. But the first of those was 25 00:01:24,879 --> 00:01:28,439 Miss pac Man. And so the question is you've got 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,000 this thing that is the biggest hit in video game history. 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,280 How can number two beat it? 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: It's hard, yeah, but miss pac Man manages to pull 29 00:01:39,719 --> 00:01:40,040 it off. 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: Yes, And we will get into the differences and the 31 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:46,359 improvements on miss pac Man versus pac Man and why 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,400 she's better than he is in a little bit. But 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:56,319 first a little bit of history. So we talked about 34 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:58,959 Space Invaders being a huge deal. 35 00:01:59,159 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: Yes, Their big game. 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: At the time was this game called Missile Command. Do 37 00:02:04,439 --> 00:02:07,920 you remember Missleman. Missile Command had been developed by Atari, 38 00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:12,080 by this guy named Dave Thurer. He had also developed Tempest, 39 00:02:12,159 --> 00:02:16,080 which was a huge hit for nineteen eighty Slash nineteen 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:16,599 eighty one. 41 00:02:16,759 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: Right, little weirdness with. 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Tempests there and how exactly that falls, which is why 43 00:02:22,159 --> 00:02:25,319 we didn't include it on our list, right, But someday. 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: We will return to Tempest. 45 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: Yes, But anyway, he created this game called Missile Command, 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,800 and there were some MIT students who had had some 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:41,400 success with pinball machines in the dormous. Guy's name who 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,719 started this idea was Doug McCrae, and he put a 49 00:02:45,719 --> 00:02:48,319 pinball machine in the dorm and of course people loaded 50 00:02:48,319 --> 00:02:50,199 their quarters in and he got himself enough to buy 51 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,759 a second pinball machine. Huh, And within just a couple 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,199 of years he's got pinball machines. 53 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: He works with his buddies. 54 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: They put pinball machines in every every single dorm or 55 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,240 like twenty different places. 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: Yep. 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: They realize the potential that regular video games are having, 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,919 and so the first game that they buy is this 59 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,719 game called Missile Command because it's a big hit. So 60 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,919 they're enjoying the benefits of Missile Command. But then they 61 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,080 start to see that their money is slowly getting less 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,080 and less, which is a problem because that's how they're 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,599 paying for their tuition and their beer. And so they 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,159 realize that that guys are getting good enough at Missile 65 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,280 Command that they can play for a really long time 66 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,000 on just one quarter. And part of the fun of 67 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:39,840 playing a game is not being able to beat the game. 68 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:41,159 Speaker 3: You keep coming back for it. 69 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: So they have less interest and they have people spending 70 00:03:45,159 --> 00:03:49,039 more time on less money. That's a problem, right, right, 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,759 But what do MIT guys do in those situations. 72 00:03:51,919 --> 00:03:54,039 Speaker 3: They solve the problem. Hey, yeah, they do. They solve 73 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:54,599 the problem. 74 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,439 Speaker 1: And so what they did they looked at it and 75 00:03:56,439 --> 00:03:58,599 they're like, Okay, what are the problems that they have. 76 00:03:59,039 --> 00:03:59,719 Speaker 3: One of them is. 77 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: That there's pattern here that's too easy to figure out. 78 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:06,199 So what they do is they spend Spring Break nineteen 79 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:11,120 eighty one creating a little conversion kit that just plugs 80 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:14,919 into the circuit board that already exists in Missile Command 81 00:04:15,039 --> 00:04:20,079 and essentially create an entirely new type of game similar 82 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,360 to Missile Command, but it's got color, it's got better explosions, 83 00:04:23,399 --> 00:04:26,600 it's got more random stuff, it's got more speed, all 84 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,839 kinds of improvements that they figure out on the game, 85 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,439 and all of a sudden, the quarters start coming back in, 86 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,000 and I think, wow, this is actually making us a 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,160 lot more money. I bet all of the arcades out 88 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,800 there who have Missile Command would like our system, and 89 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,120 so they sold it to them for two hundred and 90 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,560 ninety five dollars a pop. 91 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: Nice. I mean, it's pretty easy. 92 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,079 Speaker 1: So when you go, hey, look the game that you've 93 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,920 got that's making ten bucks a day will make thirty 94 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,160 dollars a day if you put our little conversion kit 95 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:02,519 on there, and they'd re the game super Missile Attack. 96 00:05:02,879 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: They sell a thousand. 97 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: Wow, they sell a thousand within two months, so suddenly 98 00:05:10,079 --> 00:05:13,720 they've made over a quarter of a million dollars. And 99 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:17,439 these are just guys in college living in the dorms 100 00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:19,600 in nineteen eighty one money. 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,079 Speaker 3: That's fantastic. It's crazy, crazy money. 102 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: And so not surprisingly, they all drop out of college 103 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,120 and they start their own company called the General Computer Corporation. 104 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,160 When I hear that name, I just have to think 105 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,680 to myself. These guys were trying to avoid being noticed. Yes, right, 106 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:40,519 I mean, how mundane and boring a name is the 107 00:05:40,639 --> 00:05:42,519 General Computer Corporation. 108 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 3: But it didn't work. They got noticed by that. 109 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:49,639 Speaker 1: Little company I mentioned just a bit ago, named Atari, 110 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:53,839 who was none too happy that they had taken missile 111 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:59,079 command and changed it into super Missile Attack and not 112 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:01,959 given a any of the credit. 113 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: Or any of the money. I could see that, and. 114 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:09,639 Speaker 1: So big bad Atari decides to sue tiny little General 115 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:16,639 Computer Corporation for fifteen million dollars, also nineteen eighty one money, 116 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,079 by the way. So these three guys, these these three 117 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,160 college guys, get the lawsuit and they go this is 118 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:31,000 the coolest thing that has ever happened. It makes the papers, 119 00:06:31,079 --> 00:06:34,639 it makes the magazines. Doug McCrae's dad calls him up 120 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,240 and says, number one, are you going to win? This 121 00:06:37,319 --> 00:06:41,120 lawsuit and number two, if you don't do you have five. 122 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: Million dollars this guy and. 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,519 Speaker 1: He says, I do not have five million dollars, but 124 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,639 it is okay because we are going to win. And 125 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,279 so they fight the big fight, except that Atari is 126 00:06:55,319 --> 00:06:58,279 smart enough to realize that they don't have a sure win. 127 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,279 And what happens if they don't have a sure win. 128 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,160 If they lose, it sets a precedent, which most Americans 129 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:09,079 probably know. We have this thing called precedent in the law, 130 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,920 which says, if it's been decided before, you have to 131 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:15,920 follow what the old decision was. So if some court says, hey, 132 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:18,519 it's okay for these guys to come in and modify your. 133 00:07:18,519 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: Video games, that means blood the market. 134 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: It's going to happen to all of the video games. 135 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,040 So Atari decides to settle. Part of the settlement is 136 00:07:28,079 --> 00:07:31,399 that the college guys agree that they will not do 137 00:07:31,639 --> 00:07:36,800 any more conversions on video games without the manufacturer's consent. Well, 138 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,800 during this litigation, all of which is happening again in 139 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:42,720 nineteen eighty one, they were still doing conversions. They were 140 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:46,240 still making conversions sure, and what, of course, was the 141 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:49,680 most famous video game that they decided to do a conversion. 142 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,399 Speaker 3: For pac Man. Exactly. Wow. 143 00:07:51,439 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: So they make a conversion kit for pac Man, which 144 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,639 they call Craziato. 145 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: Yes, have you seen Craziato? I have pac Man with legs. 146 00:08:01,959 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: It literally is the same game as Miss pac Man, 147 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:08,600 except to have pac Man with legs and instead of 148 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:13,399 ghosts you have bubble creatures, gremlin type of things. 149 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: It was a very very paltry conversion as far as 150 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:24,279 the graphics go, but as far as the gameplay goes next. 151 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: Level yeah, yeah, fantastic. The legs are weird, but other 152 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,360 than that, it's miss pack awesome. 153 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:41,279 Speaker 3: Yes, it is. 154 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:45,639 Speaker 1: So at that point, have already they've got this conversion 155 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:49,320 for pac Man. Yes, but they've settled the case swearing 156 00:08:49,399 --> 00:08:52,360 that they will not do any conversions without the approval 157 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:54,320 of the developer of the game. 158 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:54,879 Speaker 3: Yes. 159 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,879 Speaker 1: Well, Atari didn't develop pac Man, right. Pac Man was 160 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:02,399 a Midway game. And so they call Midway and they say, listen, 161 00:09:02,519 --> 00:09:04,080 we have this lawsuit with Atari. 162 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,159 Speaker 2: We kicked there butt, We're gonna kick here. 163 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,039 Speaker 1: But it's it's a secret settlement. It's a confidential settlement, 164 00:09:10,159 --> 00:09:11,679 a confidential agement. 165 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: So there's no way for Midway to know what happened. 166 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: They just bluff their way through and they say, listen, 167 00:09:17,799 --> 00:09:20,440 we've got this conversion. We think it'd be great, but 168 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,000 we need your permission or you know, we can just 169 00:09:23,039 --> 00:09:24,679 go through the lawsuit process and we're going to go 170 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,480 ahead and beat you two. 171 00:09:25,759 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: Right. 172 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:30,519 Speaker 1: Well, as it turns out, Midway was actually looking for 173 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:33,240 pac Man two. They were looking for it. They had 174 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:36,480 been waiting on Namco, and Namco was dragging their feet, 175 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,720 and Midway got impatient. And so when these guys come 176 00:09:40,759 --> 00:09:44,799 to them with this new game, they're like, you got it, 177 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,039 love it, And Midway and General Computer Corporation form an 178 00:09:49,039 --> 00:09:53,080 alliance and together they create Miss pac Man. 179 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,919 Speaker 2: Now, technically the pac Man name is owned by Namco. Yeah, 180 00:09:56,919 --> 00:10:00,240 Midway is just the distributor in America. Yes, in America, 181 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,360 and GCC makes the agreement with Midway. Right, that comes 182 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,559 into play a little bit later, Yeah, because Namco sues 183 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,480 the pants off of it. Now, Doug McCrae says, I 184 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,480 don't understand how Namco suit us, because they were involved 185 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:19,120 in the process. They got together, they took the legs off, 186 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,399 they decided to make it a woman. There was a 187 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,240 lot going on that, he says. The president of Namco 188 00:10:25,759 --> 00:10:28,960 was writing us back and forth and giving us ideas. 189 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,000 I don't know how in the world they got to 190 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,399 They weren't a part of this agreement. So unlike pac Man, yep, 191 00:10:34,639 --> 00:10:38,440 this character has lipstick and a bow and a bow yes, 192 00:10:38,759 --> 00:10:41,600 and a mole. Yeah, and an eye. 193 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: A mole like Marilyn Monroe. Yep. 194 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: Well that mole makes her super sexy. 195 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, miss pac Man, it's hot. Other differences. You 196 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,679 have four mazes instead of just one. Yes, You've got 197 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,000 the pink Maze, the Blue Maize, the light blue Maze, 198 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,759 the brown maze, and the dark blue. 199 00:10:59,799 --> 00:11:04,279 Speaker 2: Made you chase fruit rather than fruit being stationary, it 200 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,799 hops along. You got to chase it. 201 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: You've got multiple warp tunnels yep, instead of just wasph 202 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,360 one right, You're going. 203 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: After cherry, strawberries, oranges, pretzels, apples, pears, bananas. 204 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeap. The ghost and this is a huge deal. 205 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: The ghosts, at least a couple of them. 206 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 3: Have random movements, which means you can't do some sort 207 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,960 of pattern. Can you just do the original pac Man? 208 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: That's right, which was a big deal because it meant 209 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,000 more people were shoving their money in and not playing 210 00:11:34,039 --> 00:11:36,759 as long which is exactly what Midway was looking for. 211 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: Also, the Orange Ghost is no longer Clyde. 212 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: But Sue right when she dies ms pac Man does 213 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,399 not like circumference out and. 214 00:11:48,799 --> 00:11:52,159 Speaker 3: Explode go into infinity. She just does a little spin 215 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:52,639 and fall. 216 00:11:52,919 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: She swoons. Yeah, yep, Yes, they have new music and 217 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:03,360 new cut scenes. 218 00:12:03,759 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 3: A new series were a lot of fun. Absolutely at 219 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,000 the time. 220 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: Is like I'm watching a movie inside my game, right 221 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:12,919 I got to this point. 222 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:15,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the new music had a lot to do 223 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,360 with how fun those scenes were. 224 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 225 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: So here's something interesting on the music. It's iconic, right, 226 00:12:21,159 --> 00:12:45,240 we can play it for you now. So the composer 227 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,320 of this music is a guy named Naoki Haigashio. Okay supposedly. Yeah, 228 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:53,679 his name appears on a credit, but other than that, 229 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,679 I can't find him anywhere. Interesting, So we've had this 230 00:12:57,879 --> 00:13:00,879 fantastic music. It's kind of like the poster for Fright Night. 231 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,320 The guy's name is there, but nobody can confirm that 232 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,000 he was actually involved in the process. It's just like 233 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,759 this random credit of a guy that nobody seems to 234 00:13:10,759 --> 00:13:11,360 be able to find. 235 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:12,039 Speaker 3: Now. Wow. 236 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting and such a huge part of the game. 237 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:15,799 Speaker 3: Wow. 238 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: I remember when I saw him as pac Man for 239 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,919 the first time. Yeah, so this is the honest truth. 240 00:13:21,039 --> 00:13:26,559 I went to an arcade called Wizards Untils, Oklahoma. There 241 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,519 were so many people around the game. I could see 242 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,000 the cabinet, but I could not get close to the screen. 243 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:35,840 And I finally somebody came out of the crowd. I'm like, 244 00:13:36,519 --> 00:13:39,600 what did you see and he's like, well, it's like 245 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,720 pac Man except better. 246 00:13:40,759 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, tell me, you know. 247 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: He's like, well, she has a bow and lipstick and 248 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,120 an eye, and I was like, You've got to be 249 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,960 kidding me. It was next level excitement. 250 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: You were excited about that. 251 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,279 Speaker 2: I couldn't wait to play this game. 252 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,799 Speaker 1: I saw it and I'm like, I'm a little kid. 253 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:02,679 I'm there with my older brother, right, and I'm looking 254 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,480 at it him like this is the same as pac 255 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,639 Man and he says, no, there are no patterns in 256 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,320 this one. I was like, ah, oh wow. And then 257 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,879 I'm watching and the maze changes on level three, right, 258 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:18,360 and I was. 259 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,879 Speaker 3: Like, oh, oh wow, different level. Yeah. 260 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:26,399 Speaker 2: That night, literally I had no prayer of playing that yame. 261 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,559 Like I saw the crowd and thought, I don't care 262 00:14:29,559 --> 00:14:31,559 about playing it. I just want to see it and 263 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,279 I didn't even see it. This game sold over one 264 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,919 hundred and fifteen thousand cabinets in the nineteen eighties. Did 265 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,600 you ever see the one that had the speed button? 266 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: No, like you could speed up and slow down? 267 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: There was a Yeah. So there are some versions where 268 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,080 you played normal speed. There are some versions that are 269 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,919 high speed, and then there's one that you can regulate 270 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:51,919 your speed with a button. 271 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: Oh no, I haven't seen that one. 272 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: I think, if I remember right, the original that I 273 00:14:57,039 --> 00:15:00,840 saw back in eighty one, it was regular sh speed. Yeah, 274 00:15:00,919 --> 00:15:04,399 I think I think the high speed didn't come until 275 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,720 later on. But to me, that's the only way to 276 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,159 play high speed is the Island like you? 277 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? All righty? 278 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:17,039 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the Friends episode where Phoebe gets 279 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,840 Monica and Chandler as their wedding gift a stand up 280 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:22,120 misspac Man arcade game? 281 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: Yes, Chandler has the claw. He plays eight hours and 282 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,320 he can move his hand and. 283 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: He uses the high score to put dirty words in there. 284 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,879 Speaker 3: That sounds something that I would do. 285 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: And so they have to spend all this time trying 286 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,480 to erase all of the dirty words because unplugging won't work. 287 00:15:40,759 --> 00:15:40,919 Speaker 3: Right. 288 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, the game back then actually had a kind of 289 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,519 rom chip in them that would even if it went unplugged, 290 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:47,720 you didn't lose your I scores. 291 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: And so an attempt to erase the dirty scores, Phoebe 292 00:15:51,639 --> 00:15:56,480 spends a lot of time and fails, fails, and so 293 00:15:56,679 --> 00:16:01,440 right as Ross's son Ben walks, she Unleasha is a 294 00:16:02,559 --> 00:16:07,279 just a torrent of proof, a flood of curse words, 295 00:16:06,879 --> 00:16:08,840 a storm of cussing. 296 00:16:10,799 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: Oh that that episode is really funny. It is you. 297 00:16:16,919 --> 00:16:22,039 Speaker 1: We used to have a free video game arcade thing 298 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,919 here in Norman, Oklahoma called top Dog. Sadly, it did 299 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,120 not It did not make it because. 300 00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: A hot dog plays and they had games. 301 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: They had games that you could play for free. 302 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: They had Gallagha, they had misspac Man, they had Donkey Kong, 303 00:16:35,639 --> 00:16:38,200 Zaxon Zaxon, And what was the one that you sat 304 00:16:38,279 --> 00:16:38,799 down to play? 305 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: Moon Patrol? Moon Patrol? 306 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,799 Speaker 1: That's right, Ye, sorry to see you go, top Dog. 307 00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: We we miss you. Yeah. This was one of my 308 00:16:46,759 --> 00:16:47,919 favorite games of all time. 309 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,519 Speaker 2: It is listed as one of the greatest games and 310 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:52,960 one of the most successful video games of all time. 311 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Empire strikes back to Star Wars. 312 00:16:55,919 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: It is it is, It really is all right, So 313 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:00,440 that does it for this episode. 314 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: We've got more in the series coming up, so be 315 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:02,960 sure to join 316 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: Us In the meantime, d I'm gonna go play some 317 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,240 crazyato and we'll be here next week to talk to 318 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,920 you about another game, The Defender.