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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and

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<v Speaker 2>Enough tonoon, everybody, Welcome to Eye on the Ball Hero

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera partner Jagan Zalez

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<v Speaker 2>with Bee and Henry today Wednesday. You know why we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know anything about football history because there's no practice,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no Yeah, they're back on the field today or

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<v Speaker 2>they were, yep, back at.

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<v Speaker 3>It, yep. Yeah. It was just reading some of the

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<v Speaker 3>notes from from some of the guys who you know,

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<v Speaker 3>are out there on our behalf right taking care of us,

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<v Speaker 3>making sure that they keep us informed us to what's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going on right anything that you tam.

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<v Speaker 3>Mac was back on the field, not not fully still

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<v Speaker 3>not doing like seven on seven drills or any of

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff, but he was out there doing more than

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<v Speaker 3>what he was doing before, you know, not just went

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<v Speaker 3>out on the which is thrills and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 3>which is always good.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, good, good for him, good for them. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see what happens it's kind of like right

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<v Speaker 2>now we're in like the not dog days of the summer,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Headed out of the dog getting kind of doggy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, the thing is, it's it's it's getting a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better. You know. July is kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>doggie where we don't know, it's muggy and awful, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's nothing going on. But now the guys are

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<v Speaker 2>back and then other sports are back too. I'm sure volleyball.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, they're all practicing soccer. Soccer opens like we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have next week. We're Gonnabody's Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>We think we're waiting here. We're gonna get the coach

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<v Speaker 3>Tomorrow's on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm Okay, today, what do we have today?

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a u fu Well, we got to we

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<v Speaker 3>got to talking about Texas Tech yesterday, right and the

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<v Speaker 3>hit the history like you know, a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got that. You know what, it's time to

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<v Speaker 3>get another another PAC twelve media member on. So we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have Nathan I think it's geys is how you

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<v Speaker 3>pronounced his name. But he's the beat writer for the

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<v Speaker 3>Lubbock Avalanche Journal. He covers Texas Tech he's a young guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So he said, I can't speak to the whack days, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're not hiring anybody anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>But so he will. He will be here to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Texas Tech and what he sees this year. And

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<v Speaker 3>so we'll get a little bit of information from him

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<v Speaker 3>about about you know, what we can expect from from

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<v Speaker 3>those guys. So we'll have a conversation about Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 3>coming up and then at uh and so he'll be

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<v Speaker 3>at about three fifteen, and then at four fifteen we're

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<v Speaker 3>to have doctor Kevin Lehman, our friend Arthur. He's an author,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a psychologist. You know, he'll get in and pick

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<v Speaker 3>our brains a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you weren't here last week before the psychologists

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<v Speaker 2>of the team psychologist, right, And I loved that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>because it gets into things that we don't know anything about. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, why not bring him back? Because who's

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<v Speaker 2>my guest stone was Lamont because Lehman was that guy

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<v Speaker 2>for them back in the day. Yes, so he mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the things he did. I'm gonna want to

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<v Speaker 2>ask him what was the thinking back then in the

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<v Speaker 2>processes he went through and to now if it still

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<v Speaker 2>applies or is it the new right?

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<v Speaker 3>The new stuff is the new issues that that athletes

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<v Speaker 3>are facing.

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<v Speaker 2>And how would he handle it today? You know, not

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<v Speaker 2>to not to criticize, but you know, no, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same, maybe it's different.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe yeah, maybe it is Yeah, maybe it is different.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, you know, look, certainly the attention to mental

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<v Speaker 3>health and all those issues is elevated because of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>various things that have happened, uh well you know players,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, committing suicide and you know or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>leaving you know, an Olympic competition like Simon Files or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that, because of the mental health issues.

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<v Speaker 2>And back in my day, your day, and probably way

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<v Speaker 2>before me and you what was the solution. Put a

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<v Speaker 2>little dirt on.

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<v Speaker 3>It, little dirt on it and get up and get

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<v Speaker 3>back out of the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that was the solution, right, It wasn't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what can I do for you? When he thought what

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<v Speaker 2>can I do for you? It's more of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get out there, get out there and put thee up

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<v Speaker 2>and play and go play, right, Yeah, And then that's

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<v Speaker 2>not so much the case anymore, well at least publicly

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<v Speaker 2>it's not. No, because you know, well there's still a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who think that way. Those and they wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they say, you're a college athlete, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you have to worry about? You know, you get out

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<v Speaker 2>there and there's people like that who still still believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I mean the one that that will

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<v Speaker 2>always stick in my mind would be, you know that

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<v Speaker 2>Washington State quarterback that you know played here at Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>and against Arizona, played a tough game, lost, and then

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks later he had committed suicide. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember. I don't can't remember that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, his brother was his brother had been the

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback in Washington State before. I can't think of his name.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, and you think, okay, what what was

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<v Speaker 3>so tough in his life that led him.

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<v Speaker 2>To Yeah, no, do that. I've said this, I've said

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<v Speaker 2>this with the miss Kraska. Is that righta Kraska? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said the number one thing that I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>throughout these years is a depression is huge at the

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<v Speaker 2>college level, not just academically. And then when you're an athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a very good one, there's some pressure to perform,

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<v Speaker 2>and now that you're getting paid a lot of money, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's even more pressure, you know, self inflicted or self

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<v Speaker 2>self opposed.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, no doubt. I mean, you know, there's there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>things where you know, uh, certain individuals maybe just they're

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<v Speaker 3>not built to handle, you know, certain things, and and

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<v Speaker 3>they get.

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<v Speaker 2>Into these issues.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's just more it's I don't want to say prevalent,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's probably been out there, it's just more visible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, these days, what do they say about all the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff we see with with police getting police, getting fights

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<v Speaker 2>with with people, people getting fights with police, more things

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<v Speaker 2>happening socially. Well, they didn't have phones back in the day, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know Now they have phones everywhere, so we see

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<v Speaker 2>it more.

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<v Speaker 3>Often, Yes, we do, we do. So, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's I think it's it's telling that that this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff happened. So, you know, someone like Kevin Lehman is good,

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<v Speaker 3>just put some perspective on it.

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<v Speaker 2>For us.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not smart enough to figure you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of this stuff out, and some people nobody's smart enough

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<v Speaker 3>to figure certain things out. But they're happening out there,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, and and and what we're dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>here is that you've got you've got a whole group

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<v Speaker 3>of athletes, five hundred what five hundred plus athletes are

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<v Speaker 3>going to suddenly find themselves not going to familiar places? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>what does that do? Uh for them? You know, all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden instead of going to going to LA

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<v Speaker 3>and going to San Francisco, places that you're very familiar with,

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<v Speaker 3>now you're going to Point you know. Now you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to Waco, You're going to Lubbock, You're going to still Water,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all these places. It's like there's got to

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<v Speaker 3>be some stress to that. And then you know the

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<v Speaker 3>length of the travel as well. So yeah, and not

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<v Speaker 3>that I mean the length of the travel, but also

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<v Speaker 3>what that means in terms of how you keep up

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<v Speaker 3>with all the stuff that you're responsible for.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, But the thing I think we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this last week too, was that what's the one's the

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<v Speaker 2>last time you saw or read about a student not

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<v Speaker 2>being academically eligible been a long time actively ineligible? And right,

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<v Speaker 2>because they have everything made, they everything.

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<v Speaker 3>All the support that they get now is way beyond

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<v Speaker 3>what they you know, what they used to get, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it's it's it's certainly different.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a good thing. And and you know, still

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<v Speaker 2>a tough thing. Yeah, yeah, okay, so we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>that on the second hour. I'm looking forward to the

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Tech thing. When do they do they play them?

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<v Speaker 2>When when are they play They're.

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<v Speaker 3>They're the first pack Big twelve home game. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're after after Utah. Okay, So we'll probably talk

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<v Speaker 3>to him again later on as we get closer.

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<v Speaker 2>But and that was another reason.

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I looked at this guy and I thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk about you know, Arizona's first Big twelve home

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<v Speaker 3>games against against Texas tex.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm still curious too, Like I said yesterday to

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, you and who do we have Brett Farrell? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting into the Big twelve, and to me it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds more footballer, you know, and table rather than a

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<v Speaker 2>Pac twelve because it's more fanatics mean it but but

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<v Speaker 2>sec but but but you know what the Big ten,

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<v Speaker 2>Big twelve people think about the guys coming in right? Soft?

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<v Speaker 2>Not soft?

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<v Speaker 3>What's the reputation right?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you were and I can't ask some messing

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong guy, what's Arizona's reputation soft?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would agree, Arizona's reputation is a team that

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<v Speaker 3>never really was regularly competitive in the in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the Pac twelve, never won a championship.

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<v Speaker 2>So so here's Mike cool. With that said, I'm thinking, so,

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<v Speaker 2>what makes you think you guys gonna just come on

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<v Speaker 2>here and do really well?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's something I was thinking about today because and

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get to that something that I've been

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<v Speaker 3>doing over here that I want to get to a

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<v Speaker 3>discussion of later the College Football Playoff. But Arizona, we

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<v Speaker 3>all sit here think they're on the verge of having

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best seasons possibly they've ever had. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what we think because we saw this last.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, and you've thought this every timement, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, but we saw this in the expectation is like

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<v Speaker 3>the expectation after the other ten one season, there's another one,

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<v Speaker 3>another one coming up. So there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>here in town who think Arizona's gonna be really good

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<v Speaker 3>and gonna compete in the in the in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the in the Big twelve. But what, you know, what

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<v Speaker 3>they don't know Arizona, Right, Arizona. I feel like, who's

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<v Speaker 3>the fans outside outside of here? Outside of here? Uh

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<v Speaker 3>you know, or that's outside of the PAC twelve footprint

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<v Speaker 3>for you know, those matter like Utah probably you know

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<v Speaker 3>their fans when I think, okay, the A Zone is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be prett good because they beat the hell

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<v Speaker 3>out of its last year Colorado probably you know things

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<v Speaker 3>you know similarly, and then and then a su obviously

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<v Speaker 3>right so, but the other twelve teams in the league,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going, who the hell is Arizona? And then additionally,

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you're talking about Oklahoma State, you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>is Arizona really good? Nobody's really talking about plays into Arizona's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly where they like to be because before when

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona has always been better when they when they don't talk.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some here, it's they're lingering that bubbling over.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's a lot here. Steve the thing is inherent Tucson.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but not not out there, not

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<v Speaker 2>as they should because they're truthful. But there is a

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<v Speaker 2>this team is going to be pretty good. What I read,

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<v Speaker 2>they're pretty good. What I read, they're pretty good. It

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<v Speaker 2>reminds me of the summer that Marcus Williams played in

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<v Speaker 2>the Summer League with Corey and on them, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>you is scored a good you and me? Right, and

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, well, I hope he does that during

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season. He's not going to be playing against

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're thinking, oh, he's going to be great this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well not necessarily necessarily, right, But you're reading positive stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so what do you what? What? What else can you

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<v Speaker 2>expect positive stuff until until until it's not until it's

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<v Speaker 2>until they go up against Texas Tech and realize.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys are pretty good, right, right, because because look

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, no matter no matter how good you

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<v Speaker 3>they're coming. They're coming to town to be Arizona to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and have right and normally, I mean, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>we went to this is going back. We've been here

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<v Speaker 2>went to Texas Tech, I didn't think they'd lose their No,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think. If you remember, everyone was pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>And you're thinking, how did this happen? Yeah, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>I remember everyone was pretty good back then.

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<v Speaker 3>gun into the Copper Bowl. Won that. So that was

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<v Speaker 3>an eight wins, an eight wins team that got his

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<v Speaker 3>ass handed to them at Texas Tech. Right, And you

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<v Speaker 3>think and beat Oklahoma, beat Oklahoma and this is a win.

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<v Speaker 2>The next week, this is a win, You're thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what we do here, this will win, this is win

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<v Speaker 2>this What the hell do we know? We know some things, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>some things with not all things.

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<v Speaker 3>And actually sometimes not much right right?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we got about a minute left to.

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<v Speaker 3>Who I'm I'm you know, I'm looking forward to this

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with because someone asked this, you know this writer.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you guys know about a Yeah, right, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean you have me certain probably haven't been paying attention

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<v Speaker 3>to them up until now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious. Does he do basketball too?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>So so then we'll talk about a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bout and he's the beat writer for football and

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<v Speaker 3>basket Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>For for the love of Cavalanch.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll never have a day off until March.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, gotay? How heart is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Steve?

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<v Speaker 2>Very okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Just take to break, all right, let's go ahead, take

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<v Speaker 3>our break. When to come back, Nathan, I believe it's

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<v Speaker 3>geys from the Lubbo Ca Avalanche Journal will be talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the Texas Tech Redreators both football and basketball. Just again,

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<v Speaker 3>perspective on this, on this new new league that's getting

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Rivera and Jagen Salez. They have their eye on

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Rivera. He's Jackensauce. Down the phone. We have Nathan

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<v Speaker 2>Geese from the Lubbock Avalanche Journal. Nathan Hill, are you

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<v Speaker 2>I'm well?

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<v Speaker 11>How are you fell?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing well. I saw that to Jay check you down.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you as excited as we are to join the

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we're excited.

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<v Speaker 11>It's an exciting time. I mean, I like the newness

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<v Speaker 3>know this, it is an old rivalry they've played. I'm

421
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<v Speaker 3>looking at the record twenty seven games. Texas Tech has

422
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<v Speaker 3>won twenty five of those. Most of those were back

423
00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:44.039
<v Speaker 3>in the you know, seventies and before. But they did

424
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<v Speaker 3>play back in twenty nineteen. I think they were supposed

425
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<v Speaker 3>to play again in twenty The return game was in

426
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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty that got canceled because of COVID. But here's

427
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<v Speaker 3>here's our question. This is kind of who we're asking

428
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<v Speaker 3>everybody that we're talking to in the Big Twelve, from

429
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<v Speaker 3>around the Big Twelve, what is, for lack of a bedword,

430
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<v Speaker 3>image not only of Arizona but of the Pac twelve

431
00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:09.119
<v Speaker 3>teams that are coming into the league. What do folks

432
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<v Speaker 3>around the Big twelve know or think about these teams

433
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<v Speaker 3>that are joining the league.

434
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<v Speaker 11>I think that kind of depends on which schools we're

435
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<v Speaker 11>talking about, because I think for Utah, I think they're

436
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<v Speaker 11>the one that everybody kind of looks at. Is that's

437
00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:28.400
<v Speaker 11>kind of like the big get for football, and it

438
00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:32.599
<v Speaker 11>very much differs from sport to sport. Arizona's obviously the

439
00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.599
<v Speaker 11>big one for basketball, and coming in here you get

440
00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:39.200
<v Speaker 11>the Dionne Sanders effect in Colorado. But for football wise,

441
00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:41.559
<v Speaker 11>Arizona's especially up there this year because of what they

442
00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:46.440
<v Speaker 11>accomplished last year. And I don't think you guys will

443
00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:48.240
<v Speaker 11>hate this too much. With Arizona State, it's kind of

444
00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.799
<v Speaker 11>the oh, okay, they're here now. So they don't have

445
00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:55.200
<v Speaker 11>the best image right now. I mean, obviously they've had

446
00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:57.160
<v Speaker 11>success in the past. It's they're kind of on hard

447
00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.839
<v Speaker 11>times for a few different sports. But overall, it's kind

448
00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:04.119
<v Speaker 11>of a good mix of we like this, we like

449
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<v Speaker 11>where this can kind of go in the future.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So I understand you do football and basketball, right.

451
00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:13.079
<v Speaker 11>Yep, Yeah, I do football, basketball, and then kind of

452
00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:15.319
<v Speaker 11>hitting on some of the other sports we got going

453
00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:15.960
<v Speaker 11>on around here.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Good. Look, you're not going to have a day off

455
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<v Speaker 2>until June.

456
00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.759
<v Speaker 11>But I am well aware of that. My month of

457
00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:25.359
<v Speaker 11>July was dead and I was very much okay with it.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I get that. I get that. So, so,

459
00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:31.559
<v Speaker 2>how good is Texas Tech going to be? Because you know,

460
00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:33.839
<v Speaker 2>they're kind of kind of unknown.

461
00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:36.680
<v Speaker 3>I feel like they're sort of an Arizona you know

462
00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:38.720
<v Speaker 3>what Arizona's been in the PAC twelve sort of a

463
00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:41.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of a middle of the road program. Uh, you know,

464
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<v Speaker 3>has some has had some good years, yeah, but has

465
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<v Speaker 3>had more so so years than really good years. I

466
00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:50.799
<v Speaker 3>know you had the Cliff Kingsbury period and the Pat

467
00:21:50.839 --> 00:21:53.559
<v Speaker 3>Patrick mahomes and all that kind of stuff, But where

468
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<v Speaker 3>does Texas Tech sit in the Big twelve do you

469
00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:56.000
<v Speaker 3>think right now?

470
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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

471
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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, Like you said, they're kind of that middle of

472
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<v Speaker 11>the road team. Nobody's really kind of sure. But I

473
00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:06.039
<v Speaker 11>think the big thing to kind of know is that

474
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<v Speaker 11>it took them a lot just to get to the

475
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<v Speaker 11>middle of the road because they were not a middle

476
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<v Speaker 11>of the road team. Even a couple of years ago.

477
00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:16.680
<v Speaker 11>They were three four win teams, not even kind of

478
00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:19.480
<v Speaker 11>sniffing a Bowl games. There just wasn't a lot of hope.

479
00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:23.079
<v Speaker 11>But now they made three straight bowl games, they won

480
00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:25.240
<v Speaker 11>them all. They haven't done that since the Mike leegera,

481
00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:28.680
<v Speaker 11>So there is momentum kind of moving forward. But for

482
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<v Speaker 11>this year specifically, it's kind of an unknown because last

483
00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:36.559
<v Speaker 11>year was supposed to be the year. Everybody thought that, oh,

484
00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:38.240
<v Speaker 11>this is the year they take the lead. They were

485
00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:42.079
<v Speaker 11>picked forth in the preseason Big twelve pole. It just

486
00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:45.039
<v Speaker 11>didn't work out for them, And now this year there's

487
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<v Speaker 11>a decent amount of returning talent, but there are a

488
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<v Speaker 11>lot of places where they have good talent On the roster.

489
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<v Speaker 11>We know what guys have done at previous stops, guys

490
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<v Speaker 11>like Josh Kelly at Washington State, Haleb Douglas in Florida,

491
00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.440
<v Speaker 11>the Braill and Carroll defensive line, and coming over from Rice.

492
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<v Speaker 11>It's just kind of how those new pieces are going

493
00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:08.559
<v Speaker 11>to sit in with the returning pieces here and how

494
00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.160
<v Speaker 11>it's all going to kind of come out at the end.

495
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So what were they picked to finish this year? Yeah? Yeah,

496
00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:14.920
<v Speaker 2>what were they in the media poll? I guess we

497
00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:15.759
<v Speaker 2>should have looked that up.

498
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<v Speaker 11>I believe it was eight eighth or nights. That was

499
00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:23.200
<v Speaker 11>kind of where most everybody had them. The coaches kind

500
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<v Speaker 11>of followed suit.

501
00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:25.839
<v Speaker 2>There is that where you put them.

502
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:31.400
<v Speaker 11>I had them eighth or nine. I think, yeah, that

503
00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:34.319
<v Speaker 11>sounds about right, But I could easily see that jumping

504
00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:36.960
<v Speaker 11>up majorly just because of how the schedule unfolds.

505
00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:40.079
<v Speaker 2>So I came from Dallas many moons ago, probably way

506
00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:43.319
<v Speaker 2>before you were born too. But where is the and

507
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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't know where this is anymore, but in Texas?

508
00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:50.119
<v Speaker 2>In Texas per se, where does Texas Tech land among

509
00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:53.079
<v Speaker 2>the Texas schools? Because I'm sure it's like eight or

510
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:53.799
<v Speaker 2>ninth too.

511
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<v Speaker 11>In terms of hierarchy like all the Texas school Yeah, yeah.

512
00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:03.359
<v Speaker 2>You got Texas at number one, and you know where

513
00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the recruits decide to go.

514
00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:10.160
<v Speaker 11>Texas oust the number one. I think A and M

515
00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:13.759
<v Speaker 11>is probably two in that regard, and then it's just

516
00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:17.640
<v Speaker 11>kind of a mix of Baylor, TC and Tech. I

517
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.960
<v Speaker 11>think they're all kind of in that three, four or

518
00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.240
<v Speaker 11>five spot jogging there, and then SMBU is trying to

519
00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:25.319
<v Speaker 11>kind of make that jump up with the move to

520
00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:25.880
<v Speaker 11>the ACC.

521
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:29.559
<v Speaker 2>So that's pretty good. Five is not bad in those big,

522
00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:30.559
<v Speaker 2>big time schools.

523
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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and they obviously want to be number one, but

524
00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:38.480
<v Speaker 11>you know, you're you're dealing with the juggernaut of the Longhorns,

525
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.640
<v Speaker 11>and even if they're not the best, they they'll tell

526
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.359
<v Speaker 11>everybody they're the best. So that's just kind of kind

527
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.680
<v Speaker 11>of how it goes. But that's kind of what they're

528
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:50.319
<v Speaker 11>trying to do. And what a lot of teams, especially

529
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:52.359
<v Speaker 11>in the new Big twelve, we're trying to do is

530
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.279
<v Speaker 11>take up that mantle of no, we're the giant, now

531
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:58.599
<v Speaker 11>we're the one, kind of taking over. And I don't

532
00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 11>think anybody's ever gonna wes Texas is because they have

533
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:05.480
<v Speaker 11>so much history. Maybe not in the last twenty years,

534
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:09.359
<v Speaker 11>but before that they built up so much equity, so

535
00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:12.400
<v Speaker 11>everybody's just kind of trying to leap for each other

536
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:16.079
<v Speaker 11>now based on where everything is unfolding right now?

537
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Is there is there a sense of excitement though that?

538
00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:21.799
<v Speaker 3>Because look, even Texas Tech picked to finish eighth. Is

539
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:24.720
<v Speaker 3>there any kind of sense of excitement that this league

540
00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:27.599
<v Speaker 3>is wide open? Right? You know, you win a game here,

541
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:29.680
<v Speaker 3>you win a game, maybe you're unexpected to win all

542
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:31.279
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, you might be in the middle of something.

543
00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:33.759
<v Speaker 3>Is that how, because that's how we're seeing it here. Look,

544
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:38.000
<v Speaker 3>and Arizona, Arizona football has a history where it's just

545
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:41.079
<v Speaker 3>rarely been somebody who's spoken of is going into a

546
00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:44.200
<v Speaker 3>seat and saying, okay, watch out for Arizona. Arizona isn't

547
00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:46.319
<v Speaker 3>rarely that team, but they've had, you know, some good

548
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:48.839
<v Speaker 3>seasons and you know, finished near the top a few times.

549
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.480
<v Speaker 3>But it seemed from where we're sitting, we're seeing we're

550
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:55.440
<v Speaker 3>seeing that, Okay, Arizona doesn't have to deal with UCLA

551
00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:01.440
<v Speaker 3>or Washington anymore, going to a league where nobody really

552
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 3>scares Arizona. But we also know that Arizona just isnt

553
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:07.400
<v Speaker 3>going to walk in there and started beating all these teams.

554
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:09.319
<v Speaker 3>You've still got a bunch of good teams, but it's

555
00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:11.640
<v Speaker 3>more wide open, are you guys see it that way?

556
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:14.319
<v Speaker 3>And you've got four more teams that are just coming

557
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:15.119
<v Speaker 3>to get in the middle of it.

558
00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 12>I think so. Yeah.

559
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 11>I was just talking to one of the Colorado guys

560
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:23.400
<v Speaker 11>up there last week about this very thing. Is that

561
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.680
<v Speaker 11>once you kind of get past the first four teams,

562
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:29.960
<v Speaker 11>even just kind of looking at the preseason poll of

563
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 11>Boklahoma State, Utah, Arizona, Kansas, Kansas State, that kind of mixed.

564
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 11>After that, it's a lot of teams kind of on

565
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 11>a similar plane where even if you don't think right

566
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 11>now they're in that top five, they can easily shoot

567
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:47.799
<v Speaker 11>up there for it. I'm the perfect example of this

568
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 11>is when Tech and Arizona played each other in Tucson

569
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:56.720
<v Speaker 11>in October. If Tech is not five and zero at

570
00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 11>that point, something went wrong, because that's just house. This

571
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 11>schedule kind of unfolded here for them and they should

572
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:08.920
<v Speaker 11>be battling for a bowl game before Halloween, which is

573
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:11.839
<v Speaker 11>a very different thing than what they've done the last

574
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:13.480
<v Speaker 11>few years. They've had to kind of go to the

575
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 11>end of the season for that. So there is kind

576
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.839
<v Speaker 11>of that if you and if you find that momentum early,

577
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.480
<v Speaker 11>you can get a couple of those games. Maybe Tech

578
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 11>goes into Tucson and beat Arizona. They can nip Iowa

579
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.160
<v Speaker 11>stayed Oklahoma State. Right, You just never know what can

580
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:32.480
<v Speaker 11>kind of happen if you get things going in your

581
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:33.279
<v Speaker 11>direction early.

582
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 2>That's funny. You said five and zero and Arizona if

583
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.279
<v Speaker 2>they're not three and two or better, somebody went wrong

584
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:41.839
<v Speaker 2>because Arizona, Yeah, because there could be two and two

585
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:42.200
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

586
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, well they'll have four games because they have

587
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.519
<v Speaker 3>a bet, they have a bye week before, so the

588
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:50.079
<v Speaker 3>best say they've got four games, and so you know,

589
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Arizona's got to play Kansas State, which is weird in

590
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.240
<v Speaker 3>a non conference game because that was already scheduled, and

591
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:58.359
<v Speaker 3>then they go to Utah and that's before before Texas

592
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:02.200
<v Speaker 3>Tech comes here. So you know, most of us, anybody,

593
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:05.000
<v Speaker 3>any reasonable people, Steve Steve accuses me of never been

594
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.839
<v Speaker 3>reasonable on Arizona stuff like this, but you know, you should.

595
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.079
<v Speaker 3>You should expect Arizona to be two and two. You

596
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 3>don't expect them to go beat win at Kansas State

597
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 3>and win at Utah in those first couple of games,

598
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:20.319
<v Speaker 3>But after that the road get You know, Arizona's got

599
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 3>a schedule that seems very manageable, but it starts with

600
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 3>Texas Tech. If Texas Tech is coming over here and

601
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 3>they're five and zero, right and they've got their sight

602
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>set on some stuff, all of a sudden, that's a

603
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.119
<v Speaker 3>very different game then from what it looks like.

604
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:37.880
<v Speaker 11>Today, right, A lot of it because that's kind of

605
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:39.559
<v Speaker 11>what happened in Tech last year. They had all these

606
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 11>high expectations and they went they went up to Wyoming,

607
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:44.960
<v Speaker 11>lost in double overtime, and that was just kind of

608
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 11>a backbreaker for it. Yeah, then they hosted over again,

609
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 11>lost that one. Two close losses, but if those go

610
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.000
<v Speaker 11>in a different direction, you have no idea what the

611
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:56.680
<v Speaker 11>rest of that season is going to kind of do.

612
00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:00.480
<v Speaker 11>But since they lost them, it was kind of the well,

613
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:02.200
<v Speaker 11>here we go, we're not going to be as good

614
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 11>as we thought we were. And then injuries kind of

615
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.359
<v Speaker 11>played into that too. So if they can turn that around,

616
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 11>which they're not good at starting season strong, this is

617
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.279
<v Speaker 11>very much a chance for them to do that.

618
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.079
<v Speaker 3>What what kind of what kind of team do we

619
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 3>expect to see here, you know, because those of us

620
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 3>who you know, however casually we watched, you know, the

621
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:21.920
<v Speaker 3>other leagues and stuff like that. When we think of

622
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Texas Tech from Tucson, Arizona, we do think of you know,

623
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Patrick Mahomes and and and and the air raid offense

624
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 3>and all that kind of stuff. What are they today?

625
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:35.119
<v Speaker 11>See that's kind of a Loavely question too, a little bit,

626
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 11>just because last year they were They went into the

627
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 11>season wanting to be that spread it around offense and

628
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 11>throwing it up and down the field, but quarterback and

629
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 11>Reis forced them. They just had to keep feeding Todge

630
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<v Speaker 11>Brooks the ball. And he's a very good running back.

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<v Speaker 11>He had a very good season for him, All American,

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<v Speaker 11>All Conference kind of guys. So it worked worked out

633
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<v Speaker 11>in that sense, but it wasn't the offense they wanted

634
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<v Speaker 11>to run. So this year what they have to hope

635
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<v Speaker 11>for Baron Morton to stay healthy because if they don't,

636
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<v Speaker 11>there's a lot of inexperience behind him. And if he

637
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<v Speaker 11>can stay healthy, you're gonna be a much better mix

638
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<v Speaker 11>of that. I know they've already established that they want

639
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<v Speaker 11>to get Todge Brooks the all time career rushing record,

640
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<v Speaker 11>which is about eleven hundred twelve hundred yards and you

641
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<v Speaker 11>can still do that and still be a kind of

642
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<v Speaker 11>a pass oriented team, which was the receiving options you

643
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<v Speaker 11>got out there with Josh Kelly, Caleb Douglas, Koikin was

644
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<v Speaker 11>Morton's favorite target down the stretch of the season, and

645
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<v Speaker 11>the five star recruit Mikeah Hudson. He's going to be

646
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<v Speaker 11>involved early and often the season. There's a lot of

647
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<v Speaker 11>different weapons that you're not just going to ask him

648
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<v Speaker 11>to bill block for Todge Brooks all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, interesting stuff. Yeah, yeah. Well, and the history

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about the history. There is a great history.

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<v Speaker 2>Even I didn't know it was twenty five and two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there's no billboards because it's fight five and

653
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<v Speaker 3>two and one of them was Kevin Soman beat him

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty nineteen. I was just looking it up when

655
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<v Speaker 3>they last played and it was it was it was

656
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<v Speaker 3>shortly after that that they went on the lone started

657
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<v Speaker 3>the long losing streak that that that went got twenty games.

658
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<v Speaker 3>It was ugly, but anyways, and then there was the

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<v Speaker 3>one that we were talking about yesterday, the nineteen seventy

660
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<v Speaker 3>five game when Arizona came back and won.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's it seemed, you know, we sit here.

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<v Speaker 3>The Pac twelve to us right always been a pass

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<v Speaker 3>happy call it a finesse league if you want. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe outside of or outside of Washington and USC teams

665
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<v Speaker 3>were really never physical the Big Twelve as a whole.

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<v Speaker 3>What what is it in that regard? Would you say?

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<v Speaker 11>I think it's a decent mix. You've got a couple

668
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<v Speaker 11>of teams that are pretty physical. Kansas State is the

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<v Speaker 11>most physical. I think that the Iowa State of the

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<v Speaker 11>returning groupe returning programs coming into the Big Twelve this year.

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<v Speaker 11>And then you tell, we know what their reputation is.

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<v Speaker 11>You guys have seen it. They're just kind of a

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<v Speaker 11>smashball style. But then kind of down the line, you

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<v Speaker 11>get a little bit more finesse offenses as you kind

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<v Speaker 11>of go down what the defenses are trying to kind

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<v Speaker 11>of keep pace, which is what the big knock against

677
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<v Speaker 11>the Big Twelve was forever was every game is fifty

678
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<v Speaker 11>five to fifty two and no one can stop anybody.

679
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<v Speaker 11>It's really come back down to earth as defenses have

680
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<v Speaker 11>gotten better, as better players and better talent have come

681
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<v Speaker 11>into the conference.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so we only have a couple of minutes. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk real quick about basketball, because we'll probably get

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<v Speaker 2>ahold of you when this season gets closer or the

685
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<v Speaker 2>games comes closer. You talked about Arizona coming into the

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<v Speaker 2>league basketball wise, I can't wait. It's just going to

687
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<v Speaker 2>be a fantastic league. Texas Tech is better. I know

688
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<v Speaker 2>they lost their coach, Beard, who was a fast, tested coach,

689
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<v Speaker 2>as you know, but what's the excitement about basketball?

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<v Speaker 11>It's high. I can't say that it was the case

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<v Speaker 11>necessarily this time last year because there was so much

692
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<v Speaker 11>unknown with how Mark Adams left and Graham mccastlem coming in.

693
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<v Speaker 11>Everybody thought, you know, this guy can coach, but can

694
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<v Speaker 11>it kind of translate to everything. And the thing that

695
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<v Speaker 11>impressed me the most is they had injuries themselves too,

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<v Speaker 11>and the way they were able to adjust to those

697
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<v Speaker 11>injuries throughout the year was probably the most impressive thing

698
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<v Speaker 11>about the team. And so this year you got Darien

699
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<v Speaker 11>Williams coming back. He just he became a monster down

700
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<v Speaker 11>the stretch last year, and adding him with New Mexico

701
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<v Speaker 11>transfer JT. Toppins, that's a really good one to two

702
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<v Speaker 11>punch at the three. And four positions. He got some

703
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<v Speaker 11>really great shooters surrounding him. And it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 11>with football, I'm not really sure which direction it's going

705
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<v Speaker 11>to go. I know Campus and Houston in Arizona are

706
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<v Speaker 11>probably going to be the top three in some order

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<v Speaker 11>pre season wise, but kind of like last year, it's

708
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<v Speaker 11>an open field and anybody can go take it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like Steve said, it's just going to be

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<v Speaker 3>fun and a lot of us here can't wait. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we have football to deal with too, So that's.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe lastly, before we go away, you've been on

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<v Speaker 2>the road to most of the Big twelve venues or no, a.

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<v Speaker 11>Decent amount of them. Last year was my first year traveling.

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<v Speaker 11>They usually try to keep me within driving distance of places,

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<v Speaker 11>so I haven't been to too many spots. I didn't

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<v Speaker 11>get to go to Iowa State or UC but I've

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<v Speaker 11>been too few spots.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what two fans expect on those roads? Then for

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<v Speaker 2>the Pac twelve.

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<v Speaker 11>For road destinations this year or when they come.

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<v Speaker 3>To Techna, you know, when they come any of any

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<v Speaker 3>of the venues, I mean, what can we expect to

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<v Speaker 3>see over there, because look, you've probably seen some of

725
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<v Speaker 3>those UCLA games where there's you know, twenty five thousand

726
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<v Speaker 3>people in an eighty thousand seat stadium Stanford. You know

727
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<v Speaker 3>some of those places, there aren't any of those, are there?

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<v Speaker 11>Not really No uh basketball, the different story obviously, there's

729
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<v Speaker 11>a these spots. Oklahoma State was a depressing visit back

730
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<v Speaker 11>last year. But for football wise, as long as the

731
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<v Speaker 11>team is pretty relevant in the conversation, their fans are

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<v Speaker 11>going to kind of show up. They're going to get

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<v Speaker 11>pretty rowdy there. And I know for Texas Tech, they

734
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<v Speaker 11>got a brand new, uh South End zone product. They're

735
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<v Speaker 11>way Twin Dale is going to create this pretty cool

736
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<v Speaker 11>backdrop for the venue that hasn't been there before. It's

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<v Speaker 11>gonna be interesting for the new teams that kind of

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<v Speaker 11>come in, but the new teams have their own traditions

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<v Speaker 11>to the Big twelve is gonna have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be fun. Thanks a bunch, Hey, Nathan,

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<v Speaker 2>We do appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>We are gonna want to talk to you again at

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<v Speaker 3>some point, uh you know, the week probably the week

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<v Speaker 3>probably the week that that they the Texas Tech comes

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<v Speaker 3>here and to see how things are going at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're going to be making that trip. That's drivable.

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<v Speaker 2>Good look.

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<v Speaker 11>For me, any for me, anything is drivable.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know it's the paper.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, we're still figuring that out.

751
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<v Speaker 11>But if you mean anything else on the Texas guys, we.

752
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<v Speaker 2>Used to be newspaper guys were no longer. We know

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<v Speaker 2>the money situation.

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<v Speaker 12>Exactly, exactly exactly, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, thanks so much, Nathan, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Nathan Geese from the Love of CA Avalanche Journal. Another

758
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<v Speaker 3>young guy out there on the beat. Right, if they're

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<v Speaker 3>over thirty again, we could be all their fathers. Cow

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<v Speaker 3>all right, let's let's take our break. We're gonna come back.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd love to take your calls. Five TUESDAYO four one six,

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<v Speaker 3>seventy four to forty. I'd love to hear if anybody

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<v Speaker 3>was at that seventy five I know we're talking old guys, right,

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five Texas Tech Arizona game. Arizona was getting killed

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<v Speaker 3>at halftime and came back from like I think it

766
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<v Speaker 3>was twenty eight to three to win the game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fifty four to fifty fifty years ago, forty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>So those guys had to be forty nine years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to be my fifty have to be

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<v Speaker 2>seventy years. You remember that. Oh, plenty of those guys

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<v Speaker 2>out there, plenty of guys listen to us.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they know how to use a phone? Yeah, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>no question, said they how to dial a phone? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Give us a call. Five tiens zero four one, six,

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<v Speaker 3>seventy four forty.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look

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<v Speaker 2>give insight to the coach and the man who led them,

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<v Speaker 2>competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for

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<v Speaker 2>into a national powerhouse. Want one Email me at Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Live Monny iHeartRadio WIP. This is I on the Ball

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<v Speaker 1>with Steve Rivera and Jacobzalez on Fox Sports fourteenth fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to tying the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty on Steve's Jay Kevin. Now we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have Kevin. We have Henry. I knew that. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to keep calling every cash hev So Henry in

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<v Speaker 2>with us today every Wednesday. In fact, you're gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>a sign right behind your head.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, and uh see, we shouldn't need that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I don't remember much. You don't remember much.

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<v Speaker 3>We we shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>We shouldn't need that. Henry knows, he understands. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>on us old men a few days or few now, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>good to talk to the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll continue to try to do that right, right with

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<v Speaker 2>other people.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna get some more, you know, get some more uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, beat writers and whatnot from from the various uh,

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<v Speaker 3>from the various big twelve cities. Okay, so let me

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<v Speaker 3>bring this up now because there's something that I was

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<v Speaker 3>listening to uh today. Look, it's it's starting, right the

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<v Speaker 3>college football playoff with the twelfteen bracket.

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<v Speaker 12>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>This year really adding a lot to the conversation. You're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna ad a lot of intrigue to to the to

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<v Speaker 3>the season, right, A lot of should be a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of suspense at the end of the year. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you can get into the Big twelve or can

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<v Speaker 3>get into your conference championship game and then win that game,

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<v Speaker 3>you get a first round by and you're automatically in

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<v Speaker 3>the in the College Football Playoff and you got a

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<v Speaker 3>first round by. So it was a conversation going on

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<v Speaker 3>in one of the podcasts they listened to where they

839
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:29.599
<v Speaker 3>were talking about, Okay, let's apply the USA Today Coaches

840
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:33.639
<v Speaker 3>Poll ranking to the bracket, and what would the bracket

841
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:36.440
<v Speaker 3>look like if if that, if that were the final,

842
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 3>if that were the final rankings. And the funny thing

843
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:43.880
<v Speaker 3>that came out of it was almost that you're better off.

844
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:48.800
<v Speaker 3>You're almost better off not being the one, two or

845
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:52.239
<v Speaker 3>three seeds, right, and you presume that the SEC champ

846
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.159
<v Speaker 3>and the Big twe and the Big ten champ are

847
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:56.840
<v Speaker 3>going to be the one in two seeds, right, And

848
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.480
<v Speaker 3>if if you're looking at the bracket or you're looking

849
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 3>at the pole at Georgia and Ohio State and you

850
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.840
<v Speaker 3>set up the bracket, and then if you're it's like,

851
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:12.880
<v Speaker 3>the best seed to be is number five. And it's

852
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.400
<v Speaker 3>weird because here's the way it sets up. The four

853
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:20.360
<v Speaker 3>seed goes to the worst, the lowest ranked of the

854
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 3>four power conference champions, right, okay, in this case, in

855
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 3>the in the in the in the in the USA

856
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Today Coaches Ball, that's Utah. They're they're ranked. I can't believe.

857
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I shut it down.

858
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:42.679
<v Speaker 3>But Utah comes in ranked number thirteen. So now Utah's

859
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:47.159
<v Speaker 3>number thirteen. Well, Oregon, who's number three, would be in

860
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 3>a first round game where if they win, they play

861
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Utah instead of you look at the other side of

862
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the bracket where I hope you can follow me on this.

863
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.199
<v Speaker 3>Let's say Georgia's Let's say Georgia's number one, they got

864
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:08.360
<v Speaker 3>to play the winner of Notre Dame Mississippi, as opposed

865
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:12.039
<v Speaker 3>to uh, you know where Oregon, if they were you know,

866
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:16.000
<v Speaker 3>higher rank, they get to play Utah, who's ranked lower

867
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:19.599
<v Speaker 3>than Notre Dame in Mississippi. Here's even worse one. If

868
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 3>you're the number two seedt Ohio State, you gotta play

869
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:26.559
<v Speaker 3>the winner of Alabama Michigan. So who's got a better

870
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:29.480
<v Speaker 3>bractet Oregon who only has to who would only have

871
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:32.920
<v Speaker 3>to beat Memphis and Utah to get to the semi finals,

872
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 3>Or Ohio State who's got to beat either Alabama or

873
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Michigan or Georgia who's got to beat either Mississippi or

874
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame. There's gonna be a lot of controversy behind that.

875
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 3>There's gonna be a lot of discussion. What the hell

876
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 3>I know it means an extra game for Oregon? But

877
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 3>an extra game against who? Against Memphis?

878
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Where's the bulletin bulletin board material? If you want to

879
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.079
<v Speaker 2>be the best, you gotta beat the best.

880
00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Sure, And that's what they'll say, right, that's what I'll

881
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:03.599
<v Speaker 3>have to state, WI say. But wouldn't you rather be Oregon?

882
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:05.159
<v Speaker 2>You want the easiest road to try, right?

883
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Would you rather be Oregon where you get to play?

884
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 3>You would get to play Memphis at home?

885
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:11.039
<v Speaker 2>All right?

886
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, and then you go play Utah on

887
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.599
<v Speaker 3>a neutral field to get to the semi finals. Whereas

888
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.679
<v Speaker 3>if you're Ohio State, you're only playing on the neutral

889
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 3>field and you got to be either Alabama or Michigan

890
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:29.840
<v Speaker 3>to get there. It's it's it's you know that when

891
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:33.159
<v Speaker 3>as that starts to develop, people are gonna lose their

892
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 3>minds over this.

893
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh, Okay, we'll get there when we get there.

894
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 3>But I like it though, But I like having this conversation.

895
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:42.440
<v Speaker 3>This is this what's gonna make the season fun? Is

896
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.679
<v Speaker 3>the look? You know that every week somebody in a

897
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 3>column or on Twitter or whatever is going to apply

898
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:52.360
<v Speaker 3>the AP ranking to your bracket and say, Okay, if

899
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>this was the end of the season, it would look

900
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.360
<v Speaker 3>like this. And so that's what we're doing now with this.

901
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, we'll say what, how do you what it

902
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 3>comes out with with the A people. But you know, really,

903
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.639
<v Speaker 3>you got to know that somebody like an Oregon or

904
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:12.320
<v Speaker 3>whatever is licking their chops to saying, you know, if

905
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:14.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm the five seed now or Notre Dame, right, Notre

906
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 3>Dame can't get a number one seed, a number one

907
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:20.880
<v Speaker 3>to four seed because they're not in a conference, so

908
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 3>they could wind up as the five seed if they're

909
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 3>the best of the rest of the teams and they

910
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:27.360
<v Speaker 3>can be in that spot.

911
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Which of course you say is a good spot. I

912
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>think it is. It makes sense to me. You know,

913
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:34.000
<v Speaker 2>it makes sense to me because they see that's how

914
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.320
<v Speaker 2>my mind works. I know you're you're trying to how

915
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:39.519
<v Speaker 2>can I get to the quick mark the fastest, any

916
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:45.079
<v Speaker 2>obstacles to get some ice cream?

917
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.639
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. This whole thing is gonna be fascinating though, because again,

918
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:53.039
<v Speaker 3>maybe you finished in second place in the league, right,

919
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:56.039
<v Speaker 3>But you get into the into the championship game, you're

920
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.760
<v Speaker 3>playing for a spot in the in the guaranteed spot

921
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:01.119
<v Speaker 3>of the college football playoffs. You know, looking at this

922
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:05.199
<v Speaker 3>bracket again, there's only one ACC team, there's only one

923
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Big twelve team, and then there's the then there's the

924
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 3>group of five teams. The other nine spots are going

925
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:14.480
<v Speaker 3>to the Big ten in the SEC. So you're playing

926
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:18.119
<v Speaker 3>for a lot in the Big twelve unless they unless

927
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 3>they have an eleven and one and a twelve and

928
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:23.840
<v Speaker 3>o team going into the going into the championship game.

929
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 3>That's the only way you're going to get two teams, Yeah,

930
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 3>two Big twelve teams in.

931
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.360
<v Speaker 2>The playoffs right right, and then how many s SEC.

932
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 3>This would have one, two, three, four.

933
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 2>So the rich continue to get rich four SEG.

934
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:47.719
<v Speaker 3>Teams, one, two, three, four Big ten teams, then Notre

935
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.639
<v Speaker 3>Dame and then a Big twelve and ACC and a

936
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.239
<v Speaker 3>group of five. That's what that's what the twelve, that's

937
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:57.199
<v Speaker 3>what they called the USA Today poll. That's how the

938
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:03.360
<v Speaker 3>bracket would play out, and number twelve LSU gets left

939
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 3>out because you get a group you got to get

940
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 3>a group of five team in there so and they'll

941
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:11.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, they'll bitch about that for sure. I like this, Steve.

942
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 3>I want to have fun with this every week.

943
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.400
<v Speaker 2>How about it. I hope I'm missing a few days.

944
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.599
<v Speaker 2>Two other days I'm not here here.

945
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:21.840
<v Speaker 3>We got a call. You have to be here.

946
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Hi, you're on the airline.

947
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:27.280
<v Speaker 12>Ball my fellows a him.

948
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 3>What's up, Jim.

949
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 12>Well, I'm thinking I'm listening to you today and we're

950
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.960
<v Speaker 12>you know, trying to get excited and motivated and looking

951
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 12>forward to the season, the football season first, obviously, And

952
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:45.760
<v Speaker 12>I want to go back to something I said to

953
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:50.079
<v Speaker 12>Steve about two or three years ago. I think it

954
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:54.480
<v Speaker 12>was three years ago. I said, uh, you know, this

955
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:57.079
<v Speaker 12>is going to come down to who can make and

956
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:03.639
<v Speaker 12>break patents as to how things go. And they progressively

957
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:07.719
<v Speaker 12>got better, right up to the where Jonah Coleman was

958
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 12>probably probably the MVP of the team at least the

959
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 12>last half of the year, don't you think.

960
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I don't remember you saying talking about tackles.

961
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I do remember you talking about Joonah Coleman.

962
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

963
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:22.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you didn't use the word grumpy when you

964
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.840
<v Speaker 2>mentioned my name, But no, I agree with you. And

965
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.880
<v Speaker 2>in fact, Jay, if it's going to be more rough

966
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.639
<v Speaker 2>and tumble rugged as we assume, I'm not sure that's

967
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna In fact, as Jim says, there was a gonna

968
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>have to be that.

969
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think what I think.

970
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 12>They've got a sort of like a pressure outlet on

971
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.400
<v Speaker 12>on the field all the time. And we all know

972
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:49.360
<v Speaker 12>what we all know what t MAC has done and

973
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 12>what it will likely to do again. But I think

974
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 12>the games are going to be won and lost here

975
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 12>based on what we can do running the ball to

976
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 12>control the ball and control the game. I think that

977
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:14.599
<v Speaker 12>this uh Collie Connery is going to have to break

978
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:16.239
<v Speaker 12>tackles as the line of scrimmage.

979
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.559
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, well you know, man, Now he's built forty set

980
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:24.400
<v Speaker 13>up forties five ten to two o seven, so he's

981
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 13>a big, sturdy kid. But I think that's what's going

982
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.280
<v Speaker 13>to make the final difference. Jay, as to whether you

983
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:32.039
<v Speaker 13>get to go to.

984
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Your bowl game, Well, John, Jim, I think you you

985
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 3>know you're right in a way because as much as

986
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 3>we talked about last year and and the things that

987
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 3>that the TAMAC and norfafeated and everybody else did with

988
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.599
<v Speaker 3>the passing game, the reason Arizona was good and the

989
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.719
<v Speaker 3>reason they won ten games was because the running game

990
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 3>that they have. So you know, with Colt, you're completely

991
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.119
<v Speaker 3>right on that. You you have to have a running game.

992
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 3>Look again, otherwise, how many how well would Texas Tech

993
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 3>have done in those years where they are, you know,

994
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 3>throwing for five hundred yards every game they were in

995
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 3>the mid road.

996
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.599
<v Speaker 12>The bad news. The bad news is we've never seen

997
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 12>either one of these guys. And there there are two

998
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:14.679
<v Speaker 12>prominent figures in the running back scheme. It's Speedy Luke

999
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 12>and Collie Collie Conley from San Diego State. And the

1000
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 12>bad news is we've never seen them together on the field.

1001
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.840
<v Speaker 12>We've never seen Speedy get the ball more in two

1002
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 12>or three times a half. The good news is Collie

1003
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:35.440
<v Speaker 12>Conley ran for eight hundred and fifty yards last year,

1004
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.360
<v Speaker 12>so he's capable. But I think that's going to be

1005
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:45.760
<v Speaker 12>your difference maker. Is off tackle at the edge up

1006
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:52.119
<v Speaker 12>the middle? Can can these guys break a tackle? I'll

1007
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.519
<v Speaker 12>hang up and let it go at that. But and

1008
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 12>of course I think t Ma is gonna, you know,

1009
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 12>be a difference maker right no matter what. He's the

1010
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 12>best wide receiver I've ever seen in college football.

1011
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I like your analysis, Jim, I like your analysis.

1012
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Good stuff, but I agree. I agree with him and that, well, look,

1013
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:13.559
<v Speaker 3>you don't win. You don't win by being good on

1014
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:14.280
<v Speaker 3>one side of the ball.

1015
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Of course, you just don't.

1016
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:18.360
<v Speaker 3>The twenty fourteen airs on the team, right, Okay, threw

1017
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:20.559
<v Speaker 3>the ball over the field, all over the field. But

1018
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 3>they had a good running game. Nick Nick Wilson was good.

1019
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:25.239
<v Speaker 3>And the other the other dude, uh uh.

1020
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Terence?

1021
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:28.599
<v Speaker 3>What was the name?

1022
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, no, don't know, don't remember.

1023
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:34.199
<v Speaker 3>He had a hyphenated last name.

1024
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Fourteen. I can't remember, fourteen. No cover for the fox

1025
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 2>of something brid God darn it. Who is the who's

1026
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:46.480
<v Speaker 2>the other? Who's the other running back?

1027
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Kill him? See Steve Ding You know today at at

1028
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:52.840
<v Speaker 3>lunch I told you about the you know it'll be

1029
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:57.239
<v Speaker 3>in breaking news the Cowboys football player from the early

1030
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:01.119
<v Speaker 3>seventies who passed away today to it. Well, we were

1031
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:05.280
<v Speaker 3>reeling off names. We were we we basically named the

1032
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:09.880
<v Speaker 3>whole Dallas Cowboys offensive and defensive starting units from that time,

1033
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 3>from that from that team, from that team back in

1034
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:17.320
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy one, I think seventy one, seventy two times quarterback. No, no, no,

1035
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:21.119
<v Speaker 3>that would have been No. Roger Stobach seventy one.

1036
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.519
<v Speaker 2>He took over that early. I thought it was later

1037
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:26.079
<v Speaker 2>in the year. It could be wrong anyway, but you

1038
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:26.559
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying.

1039
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, Craig Morton, Bob Lily, mel Renfrow, we were running,

1040
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:35.000
<v Speaker 3>we were reeling off all these names, and here's this

1041
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Terrence Jones, Griggsby, that's the guy that I was trying. No, no,

1042
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 3>I got it. I pulled it out of it, kind

1043
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.840
<v Speaker 3>of pulled it out of somewhere. But that twenty fourteen

1044
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Arizona team had a good running game. Well that's why

1045
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.119
<v Speaker 3>they were That's that's why they got as far as

1046
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.840
<v Speaker 3>they got. But it wasn't elite to get them pasted

1047
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<v Speaker 3>Oregon in the championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why coaches talked about you have to establish

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00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.280
<v Speaker 2>the run before you established you do.

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<v Speaker 3>No matter how good of a passing game you have,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be able to run the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's exciting to watch the passing game, but you

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<v Speaker 2>need the running game, you absolutely do.

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<v Speaker 3>And and so yeah, no, that's a that's a good

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00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.360
<v Speaker 3>point there. But again, by all counts, this running backs

1056
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<v Speaker 3>room is pretty loaded. We'll just see how good they are?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they good enough to compete?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they?

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<v Speaker 3>The Big twelve? Are the Big twelve running backs?

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<v Speaker 10>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve goods? Okay, we gotta go.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, take our break. We when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry's here. He's gonna have some breaking news.
