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<v Speaker 1>Hi, This is Paul Parvidus from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I

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<v Speaker 1>play a game that has a four letter name, but

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<v Speaker 1>they called it golf instead. I play various courses about

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<v Speaker 1>an hour's drive outside of the city. This is Golf

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<v Speaker 1>Smarter number.

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<v Speaker 2>Four hundred and seventy nine, published on March ten, twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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<v Speaker 3>insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the

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<v Speaker 3>Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction never gets old. Our

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<v Speaker 4>Every great player with no exception, and trust me, I've

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<v Speaker 4>been inside their heads. They see things differently. They're so

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<v Speaker 4>focused on the target. Their visualization is dramatic. Arnold told

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<v Speaker 4>me the first time I work with him that the

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<v Speaker 4>only thing that he tried to do in his golf

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<v Speaker 4>was with his right hand. Feel like he's shaking hands

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<v Speaker 4>and touching the target because he convects his wrists and

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<v Speaker 4>really cleared deep, almost shaking hands with the target with

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<v Speaker 4>his right hand. I mean, I've been at Nicholas's house

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<v Speaker 4>when he displained how he plays the Masters, which is phenomal.

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<v Speaker 4>Talks about looking at the trees, see where the wind's

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<v Speaker 4>blowing in the trees, and the ripples down in the pond.

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<v Speaker 4>Where's the flagstick on eleven, and what's the flagstick doing

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<v Speaker 4>over on twelve? And he said, quote, Guys, it's almost

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm in a fairy land. It's almost like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in this imaginary world. I just kind of feel my

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<v Speaker 4>way along seeing the targets and the shape of the

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<v Speaker 4>shots with the wind. And again, the average high handicapper

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<v Speaker 4>just stands up there and hits it out there somewhere

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<v Speaker 4>in hopes it ends up good.

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<v Speaker 2>Your twenty seven point plan for better shot making with

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<v Speaker 2>fitness expert Roger Fredericks.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Golf Smarter Premium.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter podcast. Roger, Hey, Fred,

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<v Speaker 2>how you doing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been many moods. It's good to talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 2>It is great to talk to you again. We met

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<v Speaker 2>years ago doing a piece for the Golf Channel with

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine Roberts Swing Flaws and what was that swing?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was an eight part series. Catherine and

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<v Speaker 4>I get on the golf channels called Swing Fault Solutions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was, and I was the guinea pig on

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<v Speaker 2>one of them.

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<v Speaker 4>You were the star of one of our episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, it was the guinea pig. You were

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<v Speaker 2>the star. It's a lot of fun though, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was great to meet you. You've got a phenomenal history

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<v Speaker 2>with the people that you've worked with. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, established who you are, what you do, who

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<v Speaker 2>you've who you've helped, and then we'll get into how

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<v Speaker 2>you can help us. Okay, So are you a PGA

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<v Speaker 2>certified golf instructor? Yes, I am, okay, and but you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what came first, the fitness flexibility part or the

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<v Speaker 2>PGA teaching pro.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what happened was, I'll make this real quick. I

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<v Speaker 4>had a pro golf career cut short a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 4>back in nineteen seventy two, and I shattered a real

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<v Speaker 4>complicated bone in my wrist, and I consequently ended up

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<v Speaker 4>having two surgeries on that, very serious surgeries where they

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<v Speaker 4>took bone graph ticke a bone out of my hip

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<v Speaker 4>and transplanted that in my wrist. That didn't work. Then

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<v Speaker 4>they put a prosthetic in there which is still in

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<v Speaker 4>there today. And over the next maybe eight years, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I ended up with even more problems. I had two

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<v Speaker 4>knee surgeries on my left knee, which is not on common.

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<v Speaker 4>If you look at most golf injuries, most of them

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<v Speaker 4>and the surgeries are on the left side for right

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<v Speaker 4>handers because the less stable you know, side usually takes

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<v Speaker 4>the brunn of and finny wears out. But anyway, I

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<v Speaker 4>went through that probably got out of the golf business.

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<v Speaker 4>But I had a guy look at me. And by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, I went to countless and I mean countless

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<v Speaker 4>orthopedic surgeons, physical trainers, rawfice herabologists helped practitions mainly for

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<v Speaker 4>my knee, and nothing worked. And one day a guy

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<v Speaker 4>looked at me. He was gutting Rick McDonald. He was

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<v Speaker 4>the head trainer for the San Diego Chargers, and he

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<v Speaker 4>just I never told him anything about myself. And he

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<v Speaker 4>looked at me and he said, you just watched my

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<v Speaker 4>gate And he said, hey, you must have one heck

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<v Speaker 4>of a sore left ankle when you hit a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of golf balls, and my ankle would swell up and

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<v Speaker 4>my knee was history. They won't to have another surgery

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<v Speaker 4>on my knee, but anyway, and I said, how do

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<v Speaker 4>you know that? And he diagnosed my posture to me,

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<v Speaker 4>and he said, your posture is horrible. At the time,

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<v Speaker 4>I was thirty three years old, and he diagnosed my

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<v Speaker 4>posture and then he got me completely out of pain.

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<v Speaker 4>And guess what my golf game, which had been at

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<v Speaker 4>one time pro tour material. Then I got injured, and

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<v Speaker 4>then it went up to about an eight handicap. It

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<v Speaker 4>was fifty to fifty whether I'd break eighty or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I got my bat by body back in shape

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<v Speaker 4>and I started playing great golf again, and soon after

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<v Speaker 4>I set two course records in San Diego. And I think,

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<v Speaker 4>wait a minute. You know I used to play. I

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<v Speaker 4>used to be young, and you know, in a good

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<v Speaker 4>shape and played really good golf. Then I got myself

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<v Speaker 4>into real horrible shape, surgeries and all that, and I

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<v Speaker 4>played bad golf. Then I get myself back into good shape,

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<v Speaker 4>and I played great golf again. I've been playing decent

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<v Speaker 4>ever since. It's like, hey, eventually I got into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I made my career out of it. And right around

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<v Speaker 4>that time, a lot of research was coming out on

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<v Speaker 4>the biomechanics and the physiology of the golf swing, and

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<v Speaker 4>we learned that good golf demands it has to have

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<v Speaker 4>ample flexibility, especially in the upper trunk and anyway, So

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<v Speaker 4>I got into that movement, got myself really flexible, and

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<v Speaker 4>then started my own golf schools, and I used to

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<v Speaker 4>put in besides the normal half day one day school's,

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<v Speaker 4>private lessons, beginner schools and all that, I put in

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<v Speaker 4>golf fitness schools. For this is back in now we're

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<v Speaker 4>back in nineteen eighty eight, and I couldn't pay people

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<v Speaker 4>to take them. But eventually I learned the right way,

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<v Speaker 4>I think to market it and sell it. And I've

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<v Speaker 4>been doing that ever since. So one thing led to another,

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<v Speaker 4>and I started working with a bunch of tour players,

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<v Speaker 4>mainly the senior tour guys, and you know, Arnold Palmer

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<v Speaker 4>came across a lot of people referred Arnold to me,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I got together with him, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he bought into it, and we really helped him a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>and he and I he funded an infomercial for me

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<v Speaker 4>which went on the air, him being Gary player Donica Pone,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was called Roger Fredericks Reveals the Secrets to

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<v Speaker 4>Golf Swing Flexibility. And the rest is kind of history.

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<v Speaker 4>So I've been, you know, I've been mainly I asked

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<v Speaker 4>the golf plane, and instruction came first. Then I learned

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<v Speaker 4>that the golf swing is a demanding athletic endeavor, and

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<v Speaker 4>then i'd you know, taken off from there. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the story of my life in twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>With an asterisk. It's amazing that you have helped define

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody. Is golf a sport? I guess when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to injuries, Yeah, it's a sport, right, There's so

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<v Speaker 2>many people who just be, oh, you're not. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>just because it has a ball doesn't mean it's a sport.

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<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, I mean we're pro golfers, and just about

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<v Speaker 4>all good golfers are really great athletes in that we

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<v Speaker 4>all have super tremendous strong legs. Why because we all

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<v Speaker 4>started the game and we're kids, and think about around

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<v Speaker 4>the golf is about a five to seven mile walk,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're walking eighteen twenty seven thirty six sols a

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<v Speaker 4>day since we're little kids, you know. Plus we're in

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<v Speaker 4>a semi squat position doing a semi lunch. We're walking

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<v Speaker 4>on average around maybe ten to fourteen miles a day,

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<v Speaker 4>bending over and all that. So we do this, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>day after week after month after year after decade. We

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<v Speaker 4>end up with incredible leg strength without even knowing it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we're doing this gymnastic uh you know, rotation

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<v Speaker 4>of the spine we end up with. We're doing that

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<v Speaker 4>millions literally of times. We end up with superb upper

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<v Speaker 4>body flexibility, almost gymnastic, you know. So we have the

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<v Speaker 4>super strong legs to stabilize our body and provide the

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<v Speaker 4>power and support. We have an incredible upper body flexibility.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, yeah, I mean it is a sport.

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<v Speaker 4>And you look at so many great athletes that turn

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<v Speaker 4>to golf, and you know what do they have. They

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<v Speaker 4>have super strong legs strength for you know, running around

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<v Speaker 4>in their individual sport. They have great upper body flexibility,

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<v Speaker 4>and most good athletes you know, don't have that part

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<v Speaker 4>of a time on playing good golf. And then you

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<v Speaker 4>have the other side of the coin where you have

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<v Speaker 4>the average person who grew up with a real job,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and you know they go to work every

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<v Speaker 4>and they're sitting down. They don't have the leg strength

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<v Speaker 4>they don't have the upper body flexibility because they're forward

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<v Speaker 4>rounded shoulders all that, and they come out and they

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<v Speaker 4>really have a hard time of playing golf. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the golf swring is a very demanding athletic endefforent. It

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<v Speaker 4>does look like it because we're not jumping and sprinting

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, doing a lot of burst burst speed

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<v Speaker 4>type of stuff and all that. But it's a you

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<v Speaker 4>got to be You have to have pretty good function

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<v Speaker 4>in your body to play the game, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you're not you're not doing any of those activities,

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<v Speaker 2>but you are wringing your body like it's a wet

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<v Speaker 2>You're just twisting it and doing things to it. You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned needing to have strong legs. You were saying that

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<v Speaker 2>pro and good golfers have great strong legs, but you

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<v Speaker 2>also just talked about having terrible posture and that that

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<v Speaker 2>ruined your golf. So now we've got both halves of

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<v Speaker 2>the body that are working against us as amateur golfers.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And even though over all these years, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've gotten a reputation as the golf flexibility guy with

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<v Speaker 4>Catherine and I always kid ourselves because a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people call us the King and Queen of golf yoga.

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<v Speaker 2>But you have one. Roberts will fight you on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>But like you're saying, but the truth of the matter is, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>the good golf swing demands flexibility and I've I've gone

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<v Speaker 4>that route. The whole thing is I have. My whole

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<v Speaker 4>thing is just about it's really been to get people

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<v Speaker 4>back into proper posture. And I am one hundred percent convinced,

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<v Speaker 4>and you can hold me to this right now on

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<v Speaker 4>your show. A posture will be and is becoming the

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<v Speaker 4>next big movement in health and fitness. Years ago we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen that. We've seen jogging, we've seen AEROBICX, we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>pilates and yoga. Last ten years it's been core. I

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<v Speaker 4>guarantee you posture is the next thing. It is, without question,

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<v Speaker 4>in my experience, the most neglected and a misunderstood aspect

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<v Speaker 4>of health and fitness, and in the golf swing too.

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<v Speaker 4>The body has one design for all of us. We're

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<v Speaker 4>all created equal. We have the same amount of muscles

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<v Speaker 4>and joints and the same design, and the giant design

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<v Speaker 4>is simply this is all on my website. But design

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<v Speaker 4>is simply to have the ear over the shoulder, over

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<v Speaker 4>look at little kids when you guys, when we're done

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<v Speaker 4>of their clavicles, and you can drop them, throw them,

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<v Speaker 4>you kick them. They don't break. What happens though.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't do that anymore are.

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<v Speaker 4>Our hunters and gatherers. We don't do that anymore. We

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<v Speaker 4>sit down at cars and desks and computers and do golf,

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<v Speaker 4>smarter radio shows. Sitting down, we end up out a

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<v Speaker 4>proper posture, and we see rowdy shoulders, forward head, especially

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<v Speaker 4>the most common one. You know. You know right off

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<v Speaker 4>the bat. You don't need to be a rocket scientists

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<v Speaker 4>to figure this out. When you see a person with

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<v Speaker 4>the muscles on the front side of their body have shortened.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tightened, and it's pulled the person forward, and then

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<v Speaker 4>no comprehenitive. They can't do it because the muscles just

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<v Speaker 4>then that usually creates compensations for compensations, and then it's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we're in trouble. But again, I'm now verver.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not to say veering off, but I'm going more

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<v Speaker 4>into the posture reconstruction restoration programs to really get people

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<v Speaker 4>design so they can function better, not only in the

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to be able to make a living

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<v Speaker 2>out of working out on my golf game. And but

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<v Speaker 2>I know, of all the professional golf people that I

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<v Speaker 2>speak to, none of them get to play golf anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They're too busy. But I'm a desk jockey. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>a desk jockey for most of my thirty plus year career,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm sitting most of the day. Now, I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in front of computer screens. And I found that chairs

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<v Speaker 2>and sitting at a desk has been the worst thing

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<v Speaker 2>for my back. Of everything that's bad about my pasture

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<v Speaker 2>and my lifestyle as far as how I hold myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned how to sleep differently, which has helped my back.

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<v Speaker 2>But so many people use like one of those inflated

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<v Speaker 2>balls that the big rubber balls to use as chairs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I have found a chair that kind of mimics

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<v Speaker 2>that but in it so it does engage my core

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<v Speaker 2>and it has really helped my back. But I'm fairly

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, what happens when you and I are talking

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<v Speaker 4>right now and we're sitting down the most powerful muscles

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<v Speaker 4>in our body, the upper part of the legs, and

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<v Speaker 4>what's called the hip flexors ILLEO sos in particular our hips.

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<v Speaker 4>Now there, right now, you and I are actually working out.

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<v Speaker 4>We're actually exercising because our hip flexor muscles are actually

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<v Speaker 4>in contraction, just like if I were to you can

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<v Speaker 4>my bicyple up here in the top part is contracting,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what our hips are doing. And we do

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<v Speaker 4>this again all the time, for hours a day and

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<v Speaker 4>for years. Those muscles find me shortened, and when they shorten,

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<v Speaker 4>they pull the pelvists forward and then what's the pelvis

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<v Speaker 4>attached to the spine, and the spine finally starts to

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<v Speaker 4>wear out. And what you're doing, you're on the right

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<v Speaker 4>track because the Swiss balls are definitely they definitely help.

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<v Speaker 4>And the best thing, though, are these stand up desks,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're becoming more and more popular, and for good reason.

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<v Speaker 4>You have those desks now that stand up and you

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<v Speaker 4>put your computer up there. You don't have to sit down,

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<v Speaker 4>and almost assuredly with most people, the bad problems will

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<v Speaker 2>Is it okay? I've got a physical coming up in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks. Is it okay if I tell

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<v Speaker 2>my doctor that you told me that I'm exercising all

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<v Speaker 2>day along at my desk?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, okay, hips, But you don't know one more thing.

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<v Speaker 4>When when we're sitting down, all of their weight, the

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<v Speaker 4>entire all of our upper body weight is going right

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<v Speaker 4>down where on our organs, and the organs are getting squished.

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<v Speaker 4>Our organs in our pelvis were not designed to bear

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<v Speaker 4>the weight our feet and legs were, and now our

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<v Speaker 4>organs are getting squished. So when we be all that

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<v Speaker 4>weight now plus we get one sided. You know, almost everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, most most people in our culture the world

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<v Speaker 4>for that matter, is right handed, so you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>over use one side of the body. Tennis players get

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<v Speaker 4>tennis elbow, Baseball pitchers blow out the rotator cuffs, and

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<v Speaker 4>Tommy John the golfer's milu is a tight right hit

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<v Speaker 4>for most of us, and then that it dominates the

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<v Speaker 4>left side. But now we're sitting down and our pilvis

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<v Speaker 4>is out of position, and then you know, eventually our

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<v Speaker 4>prostate for us guys starts wearing down as we get older.

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<v Speaker 4>Women they get real tight in there. Many many women

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<v Speaker 4>now are forced to have cea sections because the birth

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<v Speaker 4>canal gets squished and the seed can't go up the

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<v Speaker 4>pillopian tubes and urinary infections, you know, the urine pools

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<v Speaker 4>and there. It goes on and on and on, and mainly,

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<v Speaker 4>I really i'd love the statement. We don't love it,

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<v Speaker 4>but I mean it's accurate in that I know that

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<v Speaker 4>sitting down is really the new cigarette smoking. It's it's

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<v Speaker 4>this is destroying our health. And we're seeing more and

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<v Speaker 4>more and more hip and knee replacements, back surgeries, carpal

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<v Speaker 4>tunnel I mean, shoulder surgeries that's becoming epidemic by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>and plant our fascy eyed, his bunions falling ours all

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<v Speaker 4>because the body's out of its design. And again it's

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<v Speaker 4>just we're just not getting the proper motion that we should. Beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Is running a bad thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Long is a wonderful thing. If your body is in line,

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<v Speaker 4>if you if you're if your hip, knee and ankle

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<v Speaker 4>are lined up and you're walking, you're landing heel ball tow.

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<v Speaker 4>You can run to your heart's content. But most people have.

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<v Speaker 4>When you see duck feet, when a person has feet

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<v Speaker 4>that are inverted, the feet, the feet and knees tell

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<v Speaker 4>you what's going on in your hips. And when you

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<v Speaker 4>see a person who's running duck footed the media, the

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<v Speaker 4>inside part of the knee now is getting you know,

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<v Speaker 4>is getting the brunt of it. It's called joint centration.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I mean you're gonna blow out your knees

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<v Speaker 4>and your hips tighten up and you get back problems

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<v Speaker 4>and on and on and on and on. So I

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<v Speaker 4>get asked all the time, what do I think of

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<v Speaker 4>this exercise, this machine, this new exercise, workout or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And my standard answer is are all exercise is good?

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<v Speaker 4>And my answer is, well, pretty much, yes, Are all

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<v Speaker 4>exercise is good for all people, no way. More and

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<v Speaker 4>more and more people fred are coming to me, you know, Roger,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get it. I work out all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>I take care of myself, and I'm still I'm still injured.

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<v Speaker 4>My back still kills me, my knees still going out

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<v Speaker 4>and again because their body is out of proper alignment.

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<v Speaker 4>You see, we're seeing this on the pro golf tour.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the Pro Golf Tour is becoming a mass unit.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've written a couple of articles and done some

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<v Speaker 4>interviews recently, be coming out pretty soon. Guy called it

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<v Speaker 4>the dark side of the golf fitness movement. And you

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<v Speaker 4>look at these pros out there, and everybody say in ah,

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<v Speaker 4>what great shape they are, and they are, most of them.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, how about all the injuries. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Tiger is the poster boys had four knee surgeries, back surgeries,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Achilles problems, shoulder problems, and he's only one

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<v Speaker 4>of many. And these think about it. These kids, since

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<v Speaker 4>they're little children, infants are hitting golf balls, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>millions of times, and they get one sided, just like

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<v Speaker 4>I mentioned the tennis players and baseball pitchers, and they

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<v Speaker 4>get one sided in the right side dominant. And now

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<v Speaker 4>they go and they get workout ors. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>keep up with Tiger, and you know the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the guys, and what do they do. They go out

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<v Speaker 4>and some of these guys overdo it and they work

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<v Speaker 4>out too strenuously, a lot of them. And as I say,

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<v Speaker 4>they're putting Ferrari engine on weak internal Volkswagen frames and

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<v Speaker 4>you put that kind of stress on there. They're getting

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<v Speaker 4>injured too. So you got to watch it. You've got

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<v Speaker 4>to watch your workouts, make sure you're doing the right

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<v Speaker 4>stuff for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so interesting that for years we've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the Tiger effect on the industry and now it's coming,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's coming around to where the industry is

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<v Speaker 2>struggling and courses are closing and people are leaving the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're still blaming Tiger for all this. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you're bringing up the exercise element, which he

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<v Speaker 2>changed the business, He changed the golf world by coming

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<v Speaker 2>out being such a fine physical specimen, and now that

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<v Speaker 2>he's deteriorating at a young age, it's like, oh wait,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't really sit back and watch what's happening before

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<v Speaker 2>we get you know, and try to be exactly like him.

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<v Speaker 2>And right now look at him. Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And even though I'm I've been propagating the golf fitness

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<v Speaker 4>movement for mid nineteen eighties, you know, to me, it's

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<v Speaker 4>good news bad news. And the good news is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>more and more people are getting fit. They're increasing their

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<v Speaker 4>bone density and muscle mass and flexibility, and they feel

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<v Speaker 4>better and they're more confident, and cardio and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all good. It's wonderful. But the bad news is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like I said, more and more people are

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<v Speaker 4>getting injured. So, and I hate to be contradictory, but

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<v Speaker 4>if you look at some of the greatest players some

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<v Speaker 4>probably almost all of the great players in previous generations,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the Hogans and Sneeds and Trevinos and Nicholas's

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<v Speaker 4>and play I mean players like Gary's an exception, but

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<v Speaker 4>Johnny Miller, I mean, go on break down. None of

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<v Speaker 4>those guys worked out, you know, but they got their workouts.

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<v Speaker 4>They got their function by growing up naturally. They did

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<v Speaker 4>grow up playing Nintendo and Xbox and you know, sitting

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<v Speaker 4>in video and all this kind. I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 4>a teenage son and he comes up every night. Guess

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<v Speaker 4>where he gets his homework. It's online and they have

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<v Speaker 4>computers in the classrooms, so we're producing I believe the

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<v Speaker 4>sickest generation I think in this in the history of

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<v Speaker 4>the industrialized world. I really believe that. And you can

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<v Speaker 4>see it. And what are we seeing? More and more

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<v Speaker 4>back surgeries? Like I said a minute ago, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's really it's really kind of scary.

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<v Speaker 2>I think very interesting. Would you mind talking for a

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<v Speaker 2>moment about your relationship and how where it started and

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<v Speaker 2>how it evolved with the big three, which is obviously Arnie,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary and Jack.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first it was, you know, my mentor in all

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<v Speaker 4>this is a guy you probably heard of named p. D. Goscu,

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<v Speaker 4>and p as far as I'm concerned, is the most

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<v Speaker 4>knowledgeable person on the planet, you know, as far as

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<v Speaker 4>physiology and the design of the body and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, I became fright. I kind of played a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty big part in Pete's career and I got him

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<v Speaker 4>off the road. In the old days, he just had

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<v Speaker 4>house calls. But bottom line was, he came into our

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<v Speaker 4>open like I think thirty days and Phil Rogers had

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<v Speaker 4>referred Jack to come E, Pete, and you know, so

417
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<v Speaker 4>he came in there and then they were it was

418
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<v Speaker 4>our second meeting. I believe their second session, and I'm like, an, awe.

419
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to be stupid. I don't I've not heard

420
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<v Speaker 2>of p D Goscue.

421
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's right. I want to look him up. It's

422
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<v Speaker 4>uh find him at egoscue dot com. But he's been

423
00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:26.559
<v Speaker 4>Jack's trainer for so.

424
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<v Speaker 2>He's a physical he's not a he's not a golf instructure.

425
00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:29.319
<v Speaker 2>He's a physical.

426
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<v Speaker 4>He's a physical trainer. But as far as I was

427
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:35.279
<v Speaker 4>above that, but he's uh, he has now he has clinics.

428
00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:38.240
<v Speaker 4>I think he has close to thirty clinics all over

429
00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:40.640
<v Speaker 4>the world called the Egoscue Pain Centers.

430
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<v Speaker 2>And how do you spell goscue E E G O

431
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<v Speaker 2>S c U E.

432
00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.759
<v Speaker 4>Okay, But anyway, we were. I think it was Jack's

433
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<v Speaker 4>second session with Pete. And Jack comes walking in there,

434
00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:56.960
<v Speaker 4>and you know, Pete had completely gotten Jack out of

435
00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:01.480
<v Speaker 4>pain like he does most people, and and Jack said something.

436
00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:04.200
<v Speaker 4>Jack asked him a question. He said, Pete, why do

437
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.920
<v Speaker 4>I have this flying right elbow? And Pete doesn't even

438
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:11.000
<v Speaker 4>play golf and wasn't had no experience in golf, said

439
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:13.400
<v Speaker 4>what's the flying right elbow? And he said, well, my

440
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:17.319
<v Speaker 4>elbow by backswing, when flies like this, it lifts up.

441
00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:20.200
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't fold and stay, you know, close to my site.

442
00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:22.279
<v Speaker 4>It lifts up, and then I seem to come out

443
00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:25.000
<v Speaker 4>of by shot. My heel comes up too high off

444
00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:27.039
<v Speaker 4>the ground and then it slams down too hard, and

445
00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.599
<v Speaker 4>I'm prone to hit pull hooks. And Pete goes, well,

446
00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.039
<v Speaker 4>you know that makes sense, he said, But you don't

447
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:36.680
<v Speaker 4>have a flying right elbow. You have a frozen rhomboid

448
00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:40.799
<v Speaker 4>and trap your scapula, doesn't you know, you're thick. People

449
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:43.559
<v Speaker 4>with thick chest up in here like Jack had and

450
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.759
<v Speaker 4>still has, thick like that don't have the range of

451
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:49.640
<v Speaker 4>motion and their shoulder blades. So Jack would lift up

452
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.680
<v Speaker 4>like that, he said. Now Frederick's over here, he's a

453
00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:55.400
<v Speaker 4>more rounded shoulder, you know in those days, and so

454
00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.240
<v Speaker 4>my elbow will come under my left arm. He said,

455
00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:02.519
<v Speaker 4>it's perfectly okay. That's how you that's how you're built, Jack,

456
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:05.319
<v Speaker 4>and that's how Rogers built. The whole thing is basically

457
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:10.279
<v Speaker 4>weight shift in rotation. So you know, and those my wife,

458
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:13.440
<v Speaker 4>my ex wife or my wife at the time was nutritionists,

459
00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:16.119
<v Speaker 4>and Pete would always send all of his clients to

460
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:21.599
<v Speaker 4>her for nutrition. So then Terry, my ex became They

461
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:25.119
<v Speaker 4>were still really great friends. She became Jack's nutritionist and

462
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.440
<v Speaker 4>for their family, and then so I got a really

463
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.200
<v Speaker 4>great relationship going with Jack ever since those days. Then

464
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.680
<v Speaker 4>periodically I'd run into him from time to time on

465
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.039
<v Speaker 4>the tour and then I'd videotape his golf swing and

466
00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 4>we'd look at me because he knew I understood the

467
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 4>body so and he wanted to know that. But back

468
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<v Speaker 4>to that first, I got to share this. Back to

469
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:47.720
<v Speaker 4>that first that session when Jack was, you know, asking

470
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.720
<v Speaker 4>Pete about his body. Jack looked at him and said,

471
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:52.920
<v Speaker 4>boy he said, you're telling me, then, Pete, that I

472
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.079
<v Speaker 4>physically can it's not good for me to keep my

473
00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:58.480
<v Speaker 4>red elbow in like that. And then Pete says, correct,

474
00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:02.079
<v Speaker 4>because you're built. You're built differently then, and Jack said,

475
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 4>boyd he see all these years I've been criticized for that.

476
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:07.799
<v Speaker 4>I used to put head covers underneath my left arm pit.

477
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.079
<v Speaker 4>I'd put straps around my arm to keep more connected.

478
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:13.880
<v Speaker 4>And you're telling me that it doesn't matter. And Pete says,

479
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.880
<v Speaker 4>that's correct, and I'll never forget this because Jack looked

480
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:20.519
<v Speaker 4>at piece of boy, this is really powerful stuff. We

481
00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:23.000
<v Speaker 4>got to get this out there and I can help you, Pete.

482
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.480
<v Speaker 4>And at that moment, right then I knew where my

483
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:29.720
<v Speaker 4>career was going. And we had the biggest fish in

484
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:32.720
<v Speaker 4>the sea out propagating the golf fitness movement, and he

485
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:34.400
<v Speaker 4>helped us a lot, for sure. So I have a

486
00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:37.559
<v Speaker 4>really nice relationship with him and have for years. If

487
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.079
<v Speaker 4>Arnold out, I was on Golf Academy Live. Then was

488
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 4>this two thousand and three, I think alother with Tommy

489
00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:48.039
<v Speaker 4>Jacobs and John Jacobs who had just won the Senior

490
00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:52.000
<v Speaker 4>of two thousand and three Senior PGA Championship, And I

491
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Speaker 4>was on national television explaining how the body functions in

492
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 4>the golf swing. And some of Arnold Palmer's people saw

493
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.160
<v Speaker 4>that I was imitating what happens to so many seniors,

494
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, the round his shoulder, forward head. And I guess,

495
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 4>as a story goes, somebody Artell. He's at the Tradition

496
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:12.880
<v Speaker 4>Golf Club and some of the guys are said, Arnold,

497
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:15.319
<v Speaker 4>that's you, that's you. And then they turned to my friend,

498
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.400
<v Speaker 4>they said, can this guy help Arnold? And then he said,

499
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.400
<v Speaker 4>I'll call him. So that's how Arlie got together. And

500
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:23.279
<v Speaker 4>then he Arnol really bought into it. And I go

501
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 4>down to bay Hill all the time and spend a

502
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:26.599
<v Speaker 4>lot of time with them where I beat him over

503
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.480
<v Speaker 4>in the desert, and then we did that infomercial together

504
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.880
<v Speaker 4>with Gary and Donna and then it was great. But

505
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.240
<v Speaker 4>he's just I learned a lot from him being in

506
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:36.480
<v Speaker 4>his kingdom, that's for sure.

507
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I bet the way he.

508
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.519
<v Speaker 4>Treats people, being on the inside, the way he treats

509
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.720
<v Speaker 4>people is absolutely it's nothing short of amazing.

510
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 2>It's legendary.

511
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 4>It is he in an age where most celebrities are

512
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.440
<v Speaker 4>ducking the crowds and trying to get away, he's the opposite.

513
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 4>He literally will go out of his way at bay

514
00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.440
<v Speaker 4>Hill or any place and walk over to strangers and

515
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 4>buy him a drink or sit down with them. And

516
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.559
<v Speaker 4>because he knows, he knows that when he does that,

517
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 4>he's making those people happy, because those people are going

518
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:11.680
<v Speaker 4>to go home and say, wow, Arnold Palmer came over

519
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 4>and bought me a drink, and this and that, and

520
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 4>he knows he's helping those people in the sense, and

521
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:20.440
<v Speaker 4>he loves it. I mean, he loves you know, everybody

522
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.799
<v Speaker 4>loves Arnold. I can tell you something. Arnold loves them,

523
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 4>I think even more. And it's really it's really a

524
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 4>and I learned a lot from that about how to

525
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:32.160
<v Speaker 4>how to treat people. And he's an incredible guy, that's

526
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 4>for sure.

527
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I had an opportunity in the early mid eighties.

528
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:39.720
<v Speaker 2>I was doing some work around Major League Baseball and

529
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I was in a conversation with who was a hero

530
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 2>at the time, later become vilified, Mark McGuire. And Mark

531
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>would talk about how he would sign autographs at the

532
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>ballpark all day long until the last kid was done.

533
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>But if he's sitting at dinner in a restaurant with

534
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 2>his family or friend, whatever, If he's a restaurant and

535
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:03.559
<v Speaker 2>somebody walks up to him and asks for an autograph,

536
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.000
<v Speaker 2>he says, you know, I'm really sorry, but this is

537
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>my private time. And if you catch me the ballpark,

538
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>no problem, but I'm not going to do that here.

539
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>And he knows that people go, well, Mirke McGuire's a

540
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>jerk man, you you know, So you tell the story.

541
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Arnie just loves everybody at any time, and everyone walks

542
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 2>away going he is awesome. Yeah, amazing.

543
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 4>I did a special show on the Golf Channel. It

544
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.720
<v Speaker 4>was Golf Academy Live. This was a two thousand and

545
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 4>eight I think, and Arnold and I did that. It

546
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 4>was all about, you know, the flexibility program I put

547
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 4>him on. And anyway, the day before the show, I

548
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 4>had to go down to the Golf Channel and kind

549
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 4>of go over the script and the segment. There probably

550
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 4>seven segments on that show, and I had to go

551
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.519
<v Speaker 4>over with Jerry Foltz and Jerry was the host of

552
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.759
<v Speaker 4>that show. And we sat down and Jerry starts to

553
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:01.079
<v Speaker 4>asking me all these questions about Arnold. Jerry said something

554
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 4>that I'll never forget. He said, you know, somebody wrote

555
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 4>he said, everybody I know has an Arnold Palmer story.

556
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.519
<v Speaker 4>I went, wow, I never thought about that. And the

557
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 4>thing is, I mean every single like you just mentioned,

558
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 4>every time Arnold's name gets mentioned to me, or they

559
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:20.079
<v Speaker 4>asked me how what he's like, or all that, they'll

560
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 4>they'll go off without a story.

561
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Well.

562
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 4>I was in a bar one time in ames Iowa

563
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:26.960
<v Speaker 4>and it was a pro am and Arnold came in

564
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 4>and he came over. I mean, every single person almost

565
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 4>has a story about him, about how well you know

566
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.599
<v Speaker 4>the king traded him. It's a it's amazing.

567
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 2>So well, I am one of those that still does

568
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.720
<v Speaker 2>not have an Arnie story. But I'm waiting. Okay, Well,

569
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:45.200
<v Speaker 2>someday something.

570
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:50.759
<v Speaker 4>Schedule us and then you can go up to him yours.

571
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll talk about that later. And now Gary player

572
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.880
<v Speaker 2>must be a hero of yours as well of all

573
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 2>of us. But I mean, for how old is he

574
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:02.279
<v Speaker 2>in his eighties yet?

575
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.319
<v Speaker 4>No, it's funny because he and I Gary and I

576
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.039
<v Speaker 4>have the same birthday. Oh do you really met him?

577
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.839
<v Speaker 4>I owned the golf school and I owned the driving

578
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 4>range over Atapouli, Maui between let's say where nineteen ninety

579
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 4>five and two thousand and two.

580
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm playing there next week.

581
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 4>Oh really, you lucky dog.

582
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

583
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, I forgot to tell you that my fee for

584
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:26.039
<v Speaker 4>this interview is a tu over there with you.

585
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Hey, listen, you're coming. I got. I got from calif

586
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 2>from Oakland to Maui three hundred and sixty seven dollars

587
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 2>round trip. How can I not go?

588
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 4>But you gotta go.

589
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have a friend who lives there and he

590
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>lungs to Mali country. And so we'll get some interviews.

591
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>About that in the next couple of weeks. But yeah,

592
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm really fired up to go to White my golf

593
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:46.319
<v Speaker 2>for three or four days.

594
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:47.640
<v Speaker 4>This cold weather over here.

595
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm miserable. Yeah here in California. Yeah. Anyway,

596
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 2>So Gary.

597
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 4>I was I got because my golf school and my

598
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 4>video stuff was right in the middle of the driving range.

599
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 4>So the first Conna poly scene that they hated. They

600
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.160
<v Speaker 4>had the seniors there every year, and all the pros

601
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 4>that started coming over to me and wanted me to

602
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.480
<v Speaker 4>film their swings, and then I started doing that, and

603
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 4>then years went by that I became Every year I

604
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:15.240
<v Speaker 4>would work with a lot of these guys, like the

605
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 4>Hill over seventy of them, and one of the guys

606
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:23.279
<v Speaker 4>was Graham, Marsh and Swampy. So anyhow, Graham had played

607
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 4>with Gary this is nowhere in nineteen ninety seven, and

608
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:30.240
<v Speaker 4>they had played Gary played really bad. So they after

609
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 4>the round, they brought him over to me and Graham said, hey,

610
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:35.599
<v Speaker 4>would you look at Gary, And I'm like, oh my god.

611
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, Gary was really the first, you know, great

612
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 4>player that I really worked with, and so we sat

613
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.920
<v Speaker 4>down with him, and then we got into the fitness

614
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 4>thing and I explained some stuff to him, and then

615
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 4>we went down and then it's been a wonderful relationship

616
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.279
<v Speaker 4>ever since. But he's we had the same birthday both

617
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.359
<v Speaker 4>November first, and so we talked about that a lot.

618
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:01.720
<v Speaker 4>But he Gary Player is without question, the most inspirational

619
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 4>human being I've ever been around. I mean, he's just

620
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:09.160
<v Speaker 4>so upbeat and positive. It's it's just contagious.

621
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<v Speaker 2>And in phenomenal shape.

622
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, he's incredible. He's a little bit four with

623
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 4>his shoulders, but he's.

624
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:16.759
<v Speaker 2>I asked, we won't tell him that.

625
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I asked him what he does for his workout

626
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<v Speaker 4>and then he goes raja. You see, he goes every

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<v Speaker 4>other day is my weight training day. It's I go

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<v Speaker 4>look the heavy iron, blab blah blahdy. He gave me

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<v Speaker 4>his whole schedule. But he does, like I think, what

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<v Speaker 4>do you tell me? I don't remember now, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think he does something like two hundred and seventy five

632
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<v Speaker 4>push ups every other day. Oh it's something crazy like that,

633
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<v Speaker 4>like five hundred sit ups, lifts weights. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 4>he's phenomenal to me. I mean, all these guys that

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<v Speaker 4>were mentioning, I'm out a roll now. But all these guys.

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<v Speaker 4>The one thing they all have in common, all of them,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're all different, but the one thing they all

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<v Speaker 4>have in common is how positive they're looks are. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they're all so focused and positive. It's it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's a life lesson for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all of them, I mean, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Thank you so much for all that history. But

643
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<v Speaker 2>that's not why we're here, Okay. We're here to talk

644
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<v Speaker 2>to guys like the average golfer, like me, Like you know,

645
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm here with all this needle gear so

646
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<v Speaker 2>I can ask questions of people like you. I've been

647
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<v Speaker 2>following your and everybody should follow your email weekly regular

648
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<v Speaker 2>email blasts, and you had one a couple of weeks

649
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<v Speaker 2>ago which cracked me up, and I couldn't. I had

650
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<v Speaker 2>to watch this moon Moon over my hammies. I just

651
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<v Speaker 2>love that. What and that's just a stretching exercise. Why

652
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<v Speaker 2>didn't you walk us through that? And what the benefits are?

653
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<v Speaker 2>Moo over Miami?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, number one. I have to give credit to that

655
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<v Speaker 4>to Tom House and.

656
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<v Speaker 2>Tom Tom House the former pitcher.

657
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, former pitching he was Henry Aaron hit the seven

658
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<v Speaker 4>hundred run you beat me to it.

659
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 2>He caught he caught this home run that Henry Aaron

660
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<v Speaker 2>hit to break Babe Ruth's record. He was the pitching

661
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<v Speaker 2>coach at the time, or he was in the bullpen

662
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<v Speaker 2>for the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, anyway, I think it was it was it was Atlanta,

664
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<v Speaker 4>mm hmm. But regardless, but he had Tom is that

665
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<v Speaker 4>we're both on the TPI, the Titlist Performance Institute Board.

666
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<v Speaker 4>I've gotten to know Tom real well. But anyway, he's

667
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<v Speaker 4>a great biomechanist and a great physical trainer. I mean

668
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<v Speaker 4>they're all going to him now, all the baseball pitchers

669
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<v Speaker 4>and Hayton Manning, Archie and Aaron Rodgers, I mean on

670
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<v Speaker 4>and on. But anyway, I prefer generally, I prefer whole

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<v Speaker 4>body strength, extra sizes and stretching exercises rather than just

672
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<v Speaker 4>to isolate a certain muscle group. The whole body is

673
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<v Speaker 4>one big working unit. But anyway, because as we've been

674
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<v Speaker 4>talking about, so many of us are forward all the time.

675
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<v Speaker 4>That simply means that our front sides will get tighter

676
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<v Speaker 4>and the backsides get weaker. But like the moon over

677
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<v Speaker 4>my hammies, when we lie in your back, you know,

678
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<v Speaker 4>in the so my newsletter, you dig your heels in

679
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<v Speaker 4>the ground and you pike up, and that really strengthens

680
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<v Speaker 4>your entire posterior chains, your calves, hamstrings, blutes, lower back up,

681
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<v Speaker 4>er back, shoulders, so it really helps balance out, you know,

682
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<v Speaker 4>the sedentary lifestyle. And by the way, I have to

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<v Speaker 4>give even more credit. Tom told me because he came

684
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<v Speaker 4>up with that. He stole that off of a Denny's.

685
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<v Speaker 4>Denny's restaurant, a Denny's menu, there's like there's a there's

686
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<v Speaker 4>a ham and eggs special. They have a dent so

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<v Speaker 4>on that's where a moon over my handies.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty good. That's pretty good. Well, now that Denny's

689
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<v Speaker 2>has gotten credit, we don't have to worry about anybody

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<v Speaker 2>coming after us. You know the the video that you

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<v Speaker 2>did for that exercise, is that available on YouTube as well?

692
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<v Speaker 4>It is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So what I'm going to do in the

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<v Speaker 2>show notes for today's program, I'm going to put the

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<v Speaker 2>link to that so everyone can get a chance to

696
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<v Speaker 2>see that. You can go and click on the link

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<v Speaker 2>in the show notes. Absolutely, we do it.

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<v Speaker 4>My whole website, so it's gonna be much more interactive

699
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<v Speaker 4>where people can ask me questions, I'll interact with them.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be some more videos and newsletters a week and

701
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<v Speaker 4>so it should be up real soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great, Well it's fredericksgolf dot com. Fredericks is f

703
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<v Speaker 2>R E D E R I c K S golf

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Fredericksgolf dot com. People should check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, this has been an amazing lesson, but

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<v Speaker 2>you your your last newsletter is really what I would

707
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<v Speaker 2>like to focus on for our free audience here today.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be the twenty seven point plan that you

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<v Speaker 2>learned from somebody. This was a fascinating story with some

710
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<v Speaker 2>great advice as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think that most people would do this,

712
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.639
<v Speaker 4>but I don't think I know their golf games would

713
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<v Speaker 4>improve incredibly. But I'll make this real quick there. When

714
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<v Speaker 4>I was a kid, one of the greatest players I

715
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<v Speaker 4>had ever played with, and I mean this literally and frankly,

716
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<v Speaker 4>I think I've worked with over seventy tour players, seven

717
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<v Speaker 4>Hall of famers, but honest to God, one of the

718
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<v Speaker 4>greatest players I ever saw was a guy named Ted Richards,

719
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.400
<v Speaker 4>and nobody ever heard of him because he never turned pro.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the nineteen fifty three US Public Links champion.

721
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<v Speaker 4>He won the Southern California Amateur a bunch of times.

722
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<v Speaker 4>He won the Bellair Club Championship, I think nineteen times.

723
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he was a great player. And what was

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<v Speaker 4>so unique about him is that he never played. And

725
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<v Speaker 4>I'm not exaggerating. He would he would take two months off,

726
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.239
<v Speaker 4>three months off and go out there and shoot sixty seven,

727
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<v Speaker 4>sixty eight, sixty six. I mean, it was uncanny. And

728
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<v Speaker 4>he always would beat me by a stroke. I mean

729
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<v Speaker 4>it didn't matter where we played, he'd always find a

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<v Speaker 4>way to beat me. And I was playing pretty good

731
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<v Speaker 4>then and one day he beats me again and we're

732
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<v Speaker 4>sitting there in the grill room afterwards. I said, ted,

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<v Speaker 4>how in the world do you do it? How do

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<v Speaker 4>you play such great golf and never play? And he said,

735
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<v Speaker 4>because I have a great program. It's called the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>seven point program. And I going like, what, what in

737
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<v Speaker 4>the world is that? And he said, well, how many

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<v Speaker 4>stances are there in a golf swing? He said about

739
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<v Speaker 4>three open square clothes. How many ball positions are there, well,

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<v Speaker 4>basic generally three forward, middle back. How many golf swing

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<v Speaker 4>paths are there, well, three outside in, straight along and

742
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<v Speaker 4>inside out. He said, if you. So he says, that's

743
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<v Speaker 4>three cubed, So that that's told. That's a twenty seven

744
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<v Speaker 4>different types of shots that are possible generally, I said, correct.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, start with position. He said, everybody would do this.

746
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<v Speaker 4>Go out to the range, Start in position one, which

747
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<v Speaker 4>he calls open stance, ball forward outside in swing path.

748
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<v Speaker 4>What kind of shot you're going to hit? So well?

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<v Speaker 4>High slice? He said, correct? What if you do if

750
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<v Speaker 4>what happens if you put the same thing open stance,

751
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<v Speaker 4>put the ball back in the middle ofer stance outside

752
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.760
<v Speaker 4>in swing I said, won't be as high as a slice?

753
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<v Speaker 4>He said, correct. What happens if you put the ball

754
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<v Speaker 4>way back wait outside and you're I said, you're going

755
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<v Speaker 4>to hit a low, big, bad or slice? He said correct.

756
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<v Speaker 4>He said, if a person would go and practice all

757
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<v Speaker 4>all positions, so finally you end up with the closed stance,

758
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<v Speaker 4>you know, ball forward, inside out swing path, you're going

759
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<v Speaker 4>to be hitting a high hook, you know, add infinitum,

760
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<v Speaker 4>and he said, Now the truth is, of the twenty

761
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<v Speaker 4>seven possibilities of shots, the average person will probably only

762
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<v Speaker 4>hit maybe used maybe five or six. He said, So

763
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<v Speaker 4>a person should go out there and find their bread

764
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<v Speaker 4>and butter, what are the shots that they're that's easiest

765
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<v Speaker 4>for them to do? And go play that way? I said,

766
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<v Speaker 4>Now you go out in the course and you stand,

767
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<v Speaker 4>you know, as you ask yourself, I mean non verbally

768
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<v Speaker 4>or even verbally, ask yourself. Okay, I'm on a dog

769
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<v Speaker 4>leg right here? What kind of shot do I want

770
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<v Speaker 4>to hit? Well? You want to hit a medium fade?

771
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<v Speaker 4>And he said when he said, you do that, and

772
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<v Speaker 4>he said, you will start playing golf rather than start

773
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<v Speaker 4>playing swing and he feels, And I've been on that

774
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<v Speaker 4>lesson te giving a lot of lessons for a lot

775
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<v Speaker 4>of years. And it's amazing to me how many it

776
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<v Speaker 4>happens to me too, how many how many golfers don't

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<v Speaker 4>even aim, don't even visualize. And you know, I started

778
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<v Speaker 4>playing and tend and I would go out in the afternoons.

779
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<v Speaker 4>I finally talked them into it. We'd go out every

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<v Speaker 4>afternoon at the club in la And he said, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>R what kind of shot you want to get here?

782
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<v Speaker 4>I say, well, I've got a big, sweepy long par five,

783
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<v Speaker 4>no trouble on the left. I want to hit a

784
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 4>good hard hook. You say, hit it, and I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I played that summer, and I played probably

786
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<v Speaker 4>the most consistent golf of my life. But like everybody else,

787
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, I start thinking about my swing and put

788
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<v Speaker 4>my mind and my energy back there rather than out there.

789
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<v Speaker 4>And they'll tell you if the average person would do that,

790
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<v Speaker 4>it sounds hard because the average you know, the high

791
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<v Speaker 4>handicapp or so many of them have a hard time

792
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<v Speaker 4>even hitting them, you know, the ball solidly. But if

793
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<v Speaker 4>they would start doing that, start visualizing the shot and

794
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<v Speaker 4>executing it, it's amazing. It's amazing how how much they'll improve.

795
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<v Speaker 4>And the smaller the target and the more your energy

796
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<v Speaker 4>is focused on the target, when you miss it, I mean,

797
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<v Speaker 4>you'll still end up usually with a much better miss.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that saying that. You know, if you shoot

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<v Speaker 4>for the moon and your miss, you'll still land upon

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<v Speaker 4>the stars, so you'll still have a pretty good you know,

801
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<v Speaker 4>dispense that you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we had. I remember someone on the show years

803
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<v Speaker 2>ago was talking about if if you focus on a

804
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<v Speaker 2>target and you miss it by ten yards, that's still

805
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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good shot. But if you don't have a

806
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<v Speaker 2>target that you're aiming at, if you're just looking out

807
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<v Speaker 2>there and not even folks on where it goes and

808
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<v Speaker 2>you miss it by ten yards. That's an awful shot,

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>An old friend was one of the guys that owned

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<v Speaker 4>our first golf school. Has got hi Ken Blanchard, doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Ken Blanchard, the One Minute Manager, and he used to

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<v Speaker 4>have a saying that I always love. He said, if

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<v Speaker 4>you don't know where you're going, any road will take

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<v Speaker 4>you there. I was like that. But back back to

816
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<v Speaker 4>the thing I was talking about. All the positive attitudes

817
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<v Speaker 4>and great champions and players and business people have all

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<v Speaker 4>successful people for that. Now they're thinking the way they

819
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<v Speaker 4>see things is different. But every great player, and trust me,

820
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<v Speaker 4>I've been inside their heads, every great player, with no exception,

821
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<v Speaker 4>all of them, they see things differently. They're so focused

822
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<v Speaker 4>on the target. It's and they all do it different,

823
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<v Speaker 4>but they're all so focused on the target. Their visualization

824
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<v Speaker 4>is dramatic. Arnold told me the first time I worked

825
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<v Speaker 4>with him that the only thing that he tried to

826
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<v Speaker 4>do in his golf swing was with his right hand

827
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<v Speaker 4>feel like he's shaking hands and touching the target, because

828
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<v Speaker 4>you know, he convexed his wrists and really cleared deep

829
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<v Speaker 4>and he was just you know, almost shaking hands. With

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<v Speaker 4>the target with his right hand. I mean, I've been

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<v Speaker 4>at Nicholas's house when he displained how he plays the Masters,

832
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:45.119
<v Speaker 4>which is normal. I mean he talks about, you know,

833
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 4>looking at the trees, see where the wind's blowing in

834
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:50.840
<v Speaker 4>the trees and the ripples down in the pond. Where's

835
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.159
<v Speaker 4>the flagstick on eleven and what's the what's the flagstick

836
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 4>doing over on twelve? And he said, quote they said, guys,

837
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.360
<v Speaker 4>it's almost like they'm in a fairy land. It's almost

838
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:03.719
<v Speaker 4>like I'm in this imaginary world. I just kind of

839
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 4>feel my way along seeing you know, the targets and

840
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:11.719
<v Speaker 4>the shape of the shots with the wind. But honestly, Godfred,

841
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:14.239
<v Speaker 4>they're all like that. I mean they all see it different.

842
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:17.639
<v Speaker 4>And again, you know, we're talking about the average high

843
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 4>handicapper just stands up there and hits it out there

844
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.199
<v Speaker 4>somewhere and hope and hopes it ends up good.

845
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:33.199
<v Speaker 2>The mid to high handicapper who has just heard your

846
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:37.840
<v Speaker 2>description about the twenty seven point program shouldn't just go

847
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.320
<v Speaker 2>out and start doing that. I mean, this is these

848
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 2>are shots that you have to practice, and this is

849
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 2>these are I would think for shots for people who

850
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.119
<v Speaker 2>are comfortable with their swing and not tinkering all the

851
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:52.480
<v Speaker 2>time too. Right, Well, most high handicappers and mid to

852
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:56.639
<v Speaker 2>high handicappers are constantly tweaking and trying to adjust their

853
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:59.000
<v Speaker 2>swing even during a round, thinking they know what they

854
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 2>did wrong in the lasting is supposed to just try

855
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 2>to get the same swing, you know, every single time out,

856
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.760
<v Speaker 2>be consistent with the swing. They keep tweaking and thinking, oh, well,

857
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 2>the ball went right that time, so this time I'm

858
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.519
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to do this, or last time I played

859
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 2>this hole the ball went in the water, so I'm

860
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to do a different kind of shot. And

861
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 2>they don't know how because they don't practice that shot.

862
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.199
<v Speaker 4>That's right, that's right. But if they go to the

863
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 4>driving range, that's what Ted told me to do. And

864
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.039
<v Speaker 4>I was already a good player, and when he told me,

865
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:26.480
<v Speaker 4>he says, go to the driving range and just start

866
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 4>carving it out. And the thing is, even for high handicappers,

867
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:33.000
<v Speaker 4>believe it or not, it's not that hard. It's not

868
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:36.000
<v Speaker 4>that hard to do. To me. What's hard is you're

869
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 4>trying to perfect a golf swing. And you know, frankly,

870
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.239
<v Speaker 4>like I was saying earlier, on the average the average

871
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 4>guy who really has no flexibility, no leg strength or

872
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 4>no you know, hand eye coordination. You know they're gonna

873
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 4>have a hard They can't do most a lot of

874
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:56.239
<v Speaker 4>them can't do the things that their instructors try to

875
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:58.920
<v Speaker 4>teach them to do. They can't physically do it. But

876
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 4>what happens is when you even those people, when you

877
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.559
<v Speaker 4>when they visualize a shot, you believe it or not.

878
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.880
<v Speaker 4>You know you can your body will obey your mind

879
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 4>rather than try to get your mind to obey your body,

880
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:16.320
<v Speaker 4>if you know what I mean, you know, I mean

881
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.079
<v Speaker 4>it's like the old like the old Buddha. You know,

882
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 4>the Buddha used to say, all we are is a

883
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 4>sum total of our thoughts. That's all we are. So

884
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:26.960
<v Speaker 4>we can if we can think differently, we can change

885
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:30.400
<v Speaker 4>our behavior. And we change we change our behavior physically,

886
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:33.679
<v Speaker 4>then you know, we start changing our outcome, our destiny.

887
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, but when you're going out and practicing this twenty

888
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:40.480
<v Speaker 2>seven point program, you shouldn't try to do all twenty

889
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:44.440
<v Speaker 2>seven and now, well, you should just focus on a

890
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 2>couple each time you go out and feel comfortable with

891
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.039
<v Speaker 2>it before you start taking it out to the golf course.

892
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Definitely, yeah, definitely, obviously the better point. That's a good point.

893
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:57.280
<v Speaker 4>But I think most people should say, you know, start

894
00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.920
<v Speaker 4>with position one and start hitting some really high slight

895
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.320
<v Speaker 4>until you have that down right, and then and it

896
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 4>won't take long. Then, like you said, move back and

897
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:09.239
<v Speaker 4>then go real slow. A good player can go a

898
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.320
<v Speaker 4>little bit faster because they pretty much know how to

899
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:12.960
<v Speaker 4>hit these shots anyway.

900
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, but most of us don't. Yeah, most of

901
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.880
<v Speaker 2>us don't even know how to don't understand shot selection.

902
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, it's like you see him talk

903
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:25.440
<v Speaker 2>about it on the tour, you see him talk about

904
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:27.920
<v Speaker 2>it on TV and instructors, But when it comes right

905
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>down to it, you know, and then you go, even

906
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 2>if you do practice it at a driving range on

907
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:35.119
<v Speaker 2>a mat, then you get out on the golf course

908
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, the ball is six inches

909
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.639
<v Speaker 2>above your you know, above your feet, and you've got

910
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:43.719
<v Speaker 2>to make this nice high slicing shot. And it's like, yeah, right,

911
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I practice that, but not this way.

912
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.880
<v Speaker 4>It makes it very art of shot making. It's almost

913
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:54.639
<v Speaker 4>becoming a lost art. Yeah. The equipment today is so good,

914
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, and you can you can look at the

915
00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 4>club faces now on the drivers, I mean they're gigantic,

916
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:02.599
<v Speaker 4>you can miss it all over the club base and

917
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:05.960
<v Speaker 4>still hit decent shots. So you know, but I love

918
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Speaker 4>watching guys like Bubba Watson, guys who are still shot makers,

919
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 4>who still you know, try to work the ball almost

920
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:14.960
<v Speaker 4>every time. That's these guys who are just like robots

921
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 4>and just drill it dead straight every time.

922
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then he hits it far. He hits it far.

923
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 2>To close off this episode, can you give us a

924
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 2>tip on how to increase our flexibility?

925
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 4>Okay, it's hard to do sitting down, but everybody, I mean,

926
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:37.239
<v Speaker 4>the overwhelming majority that people of people who stretch don't

927
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:41.000
<v Speaker 4>get flexible. And I start most of my seminars on saying,

928
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:44.000
<v Speaker 4>if you don't want to get flexible, if you don't

929
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.440
<v Speaker 4>want to gave improve your range of motion, if you

930
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 4>want to stay stiff, then just get on a stretching program,

931
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.440
<v Speaker 4>And that usually gets their attention. But it's really true

932
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:58.920
<v Speaker 4>because if I'm going like like I'm really trying to stretch,

933
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:03.440
<v Speaker 4>there am I doing? I'm holding my breath and all

934
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:08.199
<v Speaker 4>all flexibility is is is relaxing the muscle that comes

935
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:14.639
<v Speaker 4>from breathing. So if I breathe like you ever been

936
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:16.960
<v Speaker 4>in your car and you drop your keys and you're

937
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:19.239
<v Speaker 4>grinding to try to reach over there and get it,

938
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.519
<v Speaker 4>you camp. But if you let go, you can actually,

939
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, go another who knows eight inches a foot longer.

940
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:31.800
<v Speaker 4>So breathing is what gets you flexible, not stretching, and

941
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:35.599
<v Speaker 4>when you the reason most people don't breathe is because

942
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:37.920
<v Speaker 4>they don't. There's a lot of reasons for that, but

943
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:41.199
<v Speaker 4>one is because there they breathe from up here. It's

944
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:44.679
<v Speaker 4>like they breathe from up here in their lungs, and

945
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:48.480
<v Speaker 4>the breathing has to come from your lower diaphragm. So

946
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.840
<v Speaker 4>I tell people to get fat. So if you can

947
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:55.039
<v Speaker 4>try to stand up here, if you get somebody to

948
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 4>put their fingertips right on your love handles or even

949
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.360
<v Speaker 4>tie a belt or something around on your abdomen here

950
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:05.159
<v Speaker 4>and when you watch when I inhale, now watch what happens.

951
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 4>And I do this all the time in front of

952
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.079
<v Speaker 4>my audience. As I say, okay, everybody, stand up, grab

953
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.199
<v Speaker 4>a partner and have the partner behind you put their

954
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.760
<v Speaker 4>hands beyond on the love handles of the person there,

955
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.800
<v Speaker 4>and take a two thirds deeper inhalation with their nose.

956
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:31.800
<v Speaker 4>Here's what I see. They breathe with their traps. So

957
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:36.639
<v Speaker 4>again I encourage everything, everybody. And as simple as the sounds,

958
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 4>I can't tell you how dramatic it is if people

959
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 4>would start to learn to breathe from their lower diaphragm

960
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:47.159
<v Speaker 4>down in here. So when you inhale, it goes out.

961
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:52.000
<v Speaker 4>When you exhale, it comes in. And when people get

962
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 4>on a stretching program, they should not try to stretch.

963
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:59.119
<v Speaker 4>They should breathe into the stretch, or as we say it,

964
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:03.679
<v Speaker 4>relax into stretch. And if they would do that, they

965
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 4>will increase their range of motion dramatically. Not to mention

966
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.360
<v Speaker 4>that they will start getting oxygen up into their head.

967
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.760
<v Speaker 4>It permeates throughout the body, and their body then starts

968
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 4>to breathe properly. And guess what, when they breathe properly

969
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 4>and they're breathing from the lower diaphragm, they get back

970
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 4>into perfect posture with their shoulders over the hips, over

971
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:26.400
<v Speaker 4>the knees, over the feet, straight ahead. So, as simple

972
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 4>as it may sound, breathe and breathe from the diaphragm

973
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:33.519
<v Speaker 4>in here and practice that. You know, most guys try

974
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 4>to look cool down there at muscle beach, you know,

975
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:38.639
<v Speaker 4>And we tuck it in, and that's exactly what you

976
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:42.280
<v Speaker 4>don't want to do. So breathing is the key. I

977
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.960
<v Speaker 4>have a lot of videos and tips on my website

978
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:47.679
<v Speaker 4>that teach people how to breathe. So that's the best

979
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:50.079
<v Speaker 4>thing I could teach people what to do, is breathe, babe.

980
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.000
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. And you know it's true because like when

981
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.719
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about leaning down and reaching to pick something up,

982
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.480
<v Speaker 2>most people or even stretching, they're going to hold their

983
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.840
<v Speaker 2>breath as supposed to breathe through it, right, They'll like,

984
00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:05.760
<v Speaker 2>and then they'll try to reach it over and it's like,

985
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:07.320
<v Speaker 2>that's the worst thing you can possibly do.

986
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:09.679
<v Speaker 4>Right if you see that in golf too, I mean,

987
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:11.480
<v Speaker 4>now that's one of the biggest.

988
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.159
<v Speaker 2>People take a big breath and hold their breath.

989
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 4>I get people in their setup, I said, okay, and

990
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.719
<v Speaker 4>when they're when they're addressing the ball, like here, I'll

991
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:22.039
<v Speaker 4>go put my hand right on their under underbelly button.

992
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:23.920
<v Speaker 4>I said, okay, now right, be pray, take it back,

993
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:27.840
<v Speaker 4>just let go, just let it not just relax. You

994
00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:33.480
<v Speaker 4>watch a free throw shooter, what does he do you know?

995
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:37.679
<v Speaker 4>Or the tennis player they bounce it. I mean almost

996
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:42.719
<v Speaker 4>every baseball pitcher. Almost every sport, they will automatically intuitively

997
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:47.360
<v Speaker 4>exhale gently right before they started back. And most golfers

998
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.519
<v Speaker 4>are you know, they suck it in and tense up.

999
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 4>So golfing will not allow tension or for life of

1000
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 4>that matter,
