Speaker 1: And hello, how are you welcome to Welcome to the
Big Podcast on this Tuesday. Today is the twenty fourth
day of March, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty six.
My name is Tom Sullivan. We have a lot to
get to today. The news barrel is absolutely overflowing. So
let's I mean, we've got the update on the war,
update on oil and gas prices. You could probably update
me if you've been to the gas station lately. Update
on the plane trash at Laguardian. Uh uh, the latest
on the airports.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I mean, it's just it's just it's
so dysfunctional airport some of the airports are are quick,
five minutes, ten minutes waiting time to get through security.
Speaker 1: There. There's in Houston they're having weights of between four
and five hours. I'm sorry, I I I mean you
can get you can get in your car and drive
for five hours and probably be where you wanted to go.
So we've got a lot to cover. Let's start with
with the latest on the war. Because the President has
backed off. I think he blinked. He said, oh, yeah,
forty eight over the weekend. It was forty eight hours,
and we're going to come get your your uh elect
your your utilities. We're going to blow up all your
power facilities in Iran unless you will on this data.
Four moves and then all of a sudden yesterday was okay,
we're not going to do that because we're in talks
with them, and nobody knows who they're in talks with.
We don't know who we're talking to. Rebecca Heinrich from
the Hudson Institute as this guess.
Speaker 3: I think we can begin to see who the Israelis
think might be a potential candidate to be a leader
inside Iran, who the United States and Israel can work with,
because they're the ones that are still surviving, because essentially
Israel is the one getting in there and doing an
incredible job and knowing exactly where everybody inside the regime.
The IRGC, of course, the besiege, that paramilitary organization under
the IRGC that is responsible for all the brutalizing the
Iranian people and the repression. And so look at who's standing.
There is this one man Calibath, I believe is how
to pronounce his name, my unders standing as he's a civilian,
a very senior. He used to be an IRGC commander
he's close to the Supreme Leader Junior, who we haven't
seen since he was chosen to be the successor of
the Supreme Leader who was killed. This man is corrupt,
he's known for his corruption, but still has some a
lot of kind of respect from the IRGC. That kind
of personal profile might be somebody the United States can
work with because he might want to just stay alive
more than he wants to die for the Islamic Revolution.
So there are these candidates that are still alive that
the United States and the Israelis might be able to
work with. Pallavi is going to run into the same
problems that some of these pro democracy people who we
might as Americans be rooting for, for instance in Venezuela.
The problem, though, is Pallavi has been outside of Iran
for decades, which means there's a lot of Iranians who
have been long suffering inside the country who have disdained
for him. They don't have the respect for him because
he hasn't been there. And so President Trump was actually
very insightful early on in Epic Fury when he said, look,
we want somebody who's coming from inside the regime, maybe
somebody who already has the respect and the control of
the army who can keep stability because Dana, what we
don't want is civil war. That would be messy, it
would be terrible for the Iranian people and really unstable.
So Palavi just might not have the pull in the
near term necessary.
Speaker 4: To maintain control. See.
Speaker 3: I think at this point the United States is being
so successful in its military operation. I mean, Dana, if
you turn to any other news channel, it sounds like
things are going badly, that the the Iranians are in
some way winning. But from my perspective, the Iranians are
just completely being crushed militarily. Even their offensive retaliatory strikes
against the Israelis are not getting through. The Israelis missile
defenses are working. About two percent of Iranian missiles are
getting through. That's of course terrible any time that they
do hit, but it's very small. So I don't think
that the Iranians have much to say in terms of
a deal. So the United States is really pressing on
everything we want, which is total total collaboration on oil,
making sure that everybody can get through the Strait of
Hormuz safely, not just Iranian ships, and also that we
can completely eliminate the nuclear program and really compel the
Iranians to be a source of stability in the region
and not a source of instability and terrorism, which is
what they've been for forty years.
Speaker 1: What about pa Lavi? You see him pop up all
the time. His name's Reza Pavlavi. He says or claims
that he is the exiled crown prince and he's asking
Israel in the US to reinstall him.
Speaker 3: Pallavi is going to run into the same problems that
some of these pro democracy people who we might as
Americans be rooting for, for instance in Venezuela. The problem, though,
is Pallavi has been outside of Iran for decades, which
means there's a lot of Iranians who have been long
suffering inside the country who have disdained for him. They
don't have the respect for him because he hasn't been there.
And so President Trump was actually very insightful early on
in Epic Fury when he said, look, we want somebody
who's coming from inside the regime, maybe somebody who already
has the respect and the control of the army, who
can keep stability, because we don't want a civil war
that would be messy. It would be terrible for the
Iranian people and really unstable. So Paalavi just might not
have the pull in the near term necessary to maintain control.
I think at this point the United States is being
so successful in its military operation. I mean, if you
turn to any other news channel, it sounds like things
are going badly, that the Iranians are in some way winning.
But from my perspective, the Iranians are just completely being
crushed militarily. Even their offensive retaliatory strikes against the Israelis
are not getting through. The Israelis missile defenses are working.
About two percent of Iranian missiles are getting through. That's
of course terrible any time that they do hit, but
it's very small. So I don't think that the Iranians
have much to say in terms of a deal. So
the United States is really pressing on everything we want,
which is total collaboration on oil, making sure that everybody
can get through the Strait of Hormuz safely, not just
Iranian ships, and also that we can completely eliminate the
nuclear program and really compel the Iranians to be a
source of stability in the region and not a source
of instability and terrorism. Which is what they've been for
forty years.
Speaker 1: So I'm with her and I'm with the generals. Everybody
seems to say, we are doing everything right and we're
being very successful. This is not a time to sit
there and say, well, let's have peace talks or let's
have some negotiation. But the President keeps talking about that,
and I wish. I think he's got a lot of
pressure on him because of the fact that this is
very unpopular His popularity has sunk even lower down into
the thirties thirty percent approval range, and he wants the
Republicans to win in the midterm, and I think all
of that is pressure for him to wrap this up
quickly and get those oil prices down and everything will
be fine. But everything won't be fine. You're going to
keep the regime in place, and it just will be
a matter of time before the rebuild and cause nothing
but headaches for the world. And then though they will
play peekaboo with the Strait of Hormuz, now it's open,
now it's not, they will totally control the world's oil prices.
I'm against any negotiations. It's way too early. So speaking
of the military, we're getting confirmation today that the President
has ordered the eighty second Airborne to the area. I'm
not quite you aware, but they're going to be within
striking distance of Iran. So we've got five thousand marines
plus twenty five hundred sailors. Now we've got the eighty
second Airborne. It doesn't sound like he's really talking to
anybody about some sort of negotiated settlement. It sounds like
he's ramping up the military. Pete Hegseth was talking today
a little bit about the He's all jazzed about what
the military's doing. Nice.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, mister President.
Speaker 5: You're spot on.
Speaker 6: Never in history has a modern military Iran had a
modern military, a modern navy, a modern air force, modern
air defenses, leadership, massive bunker. Never has a modern military
been so rapidly and historically obliterated, defeated from day one
with overwhelming firepower. The air campaign that we've conducted, that
Israel's conducted alongside us was one for the history books, truly,
and it's because we have a president of the United
States that when he sends his war fighters out to fight,
he unties their hands to actually go out and close
with and destroy the enemy. As viciously as possible from
moment one, and that's why we see ourselves as part
of this negotiation as well. We negotiate with bombs. You
have a choice. As we loiter over the top of Tehran,
as the President talked about about your future, President has
made it clear that you will not have a nuclear weapon.
The War Department agrees our job is to ensure that,
and so we're keeping our hand on that throttle as
long as as hard as is necessary to ensure the
interest of the United States of America are achieved on
that battlefield. This is not a rack in Afghanistan. This
is not a president who's interested in vague end states.
He's been very clear with us about what we need
to accomplish, creating the conditions for them never to have
a nuclear capability. And that's exactly what we're doing in
historic fashion. Thank you, mister Breda, Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1: So that takes uth and he sounds like he is
all pumped up, like he's not backing off. He's got
more fighting to do, and he loves it. General Mark
Schwartz also was asked about Lieutenant General Schwartz about how
we're doing militarily.
Speaker 7: From a military standpoint, both Iran and certainly Israeli United
States are going to continue the military campaigns that they've
been directed to execute, and that will continue until such
time that there's a substantute change in the strategic dialogue
between you know, the regime representatives from Iran and the
United States.
Speaker 1: Again, presidents talking about negotiations and the military seems to
be a pedal to the metal on all of this. Well,
all of this is affecting the course oil prices and
gas prices, and it's the one economic indicator that most
people face every single month, every single week. I should say,
and listen, let me divert here just a little bit.
We haven't talked in quite a while about electric vehicles,
and I don't know they became where the governments like
the state of California started requiring mandating that you buy
an electric vehicle, and you have to do so before
I don't know what was a twenty thirty or twenty
third of Anyway, the point is a lot of people
got sour on electric vehicles. I still drive my electric vehicle,
and quite honestly, during these high gas prices, I'm kind
of liking my electric vehicle it. I mean, it's I
don't know if it's going to change the sales numbers
because they haven't been great. Combustion internal combustion engine gasoline
cars are still by far the most popular. But during
times like this, it's got to make you wonder. And
this is there's one of these analysts that I've got
here that is talking about the fact that this could
be another oil shock like we had in the nineteen seventies.
Here's a Middle East oil analyst, name is Mark Layton.
He runs the Oil Prognostication group at City.
Speaker 8: YEP.
Speaker 4: That is still the case. Unfortunately, I think the two
sides still very very far apart. So well, then the
negotiations are a positive sign, if indeed they are happening,
it is hard to see in the short run how
the demands of both sides can be met.
Speaker 1: Okay, so demands are still far apart in the short run.
Here's another Mid East oil analyst who's talking about oil
prices are not going to go back down anytime soon
where they were just a couple of weeks.
Speaker 9: Ago, at least about I'll say eight weeks. But the
longer or the faster we get into view the faster,
we can get even lower, but nothing. I don't see
the prices let's say to go back to sixty dollars
at an anytime soon.
Speaker 1: I remember we were talking quoting wrap up the daily
financial numbers. Oil prices were fifty eight sixty two somewhere
around in there, just before the conflict began. And this
guy is saying, doesn't look like it's going back to
that any time soon. So the oil people, no, they're
not jazzed. Scott Sheldy is commodities trader and he's looking
at the price of not only oil and gas, but
also for the agriculture industry, the farmers. The cost of
fertilizer has gone through the roof.
Speaker 8: It's one of those things nobody really talks about input
prices for these farmers. We only talk about what we
see at the Chicagoboard to trade when we talk about corn,
beans and wheat and what those prices might be. Those
are the output prices, but the input prices are really
what's killing them. And with this iranom war, we've seen
fertilizer prices go up between thirty three to forty percent.
And we're talking about fertilizer which can be up to
forty percent of what you put in your marketing plan,
you know, getting them ready for the spring. So it's
a huge deal, and it's going to be a big
enough deal. Sint of this month we get an acreage report,
we might see shifting of America's acres away from a
high intense fertilizer crops like corn to less intense crops
like so so you might see that start to come through. Now,
most farmers will purchase things like fertilizer early on. They
do that maybe in the fall, but getting ready for
the sprain to put things out there and start the
growing season. However, there are some folks out there, some
farmers that haven't really bought it yet, and we could
see a big shift there. So that's something I have
to watch. Because everybody's been talking about soybeans. Corn light
be a sleeper here as even though we do have
big carryouts or big stockpiles, we can go through that
very quickly. Unlike other products. If we do have a
bad growing season, we shift away from corn because of
the fertilizer costs. All of a sudden, corn will be
in the head lines for another one. They could see
some big price spike.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you and I eat corn and prior to
that goes up. Who else eats corn?
Speaker 4: Cattle?
Speaker 1: Yes, livestock, So the price of beef could go up
because of Again, fertilizer prices are a big, a big
input costs for a lot of farmers as far as
oil and gas. Dan Brulette was a former energy secretary
in Trump one point zero. See what he's.
Speaker 10: Talking about, And I think that's what the market expects.
A very short duration to the remainder of this war
and then a very quick unwinding of some of the
traffic jam that's occurring now in the Gulf. I think
the bigger issue whether or not we can rebuild some
of the infrastructure, both in Iran and in places like
Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, and of course Qatar with the
loss of their L and G facilities. It's going to
be the rebuilding of that infrastructure that may take some
more time, and we'll have to wait and see and
get more clear assessments, i should say, on the ground,
so we know exactly what the damage is.
Speaker 11: We see a pathway to have the straits of Horror
moves open soon and energy flowing again. You'd see energy
prices drop pretty significantly. Fortunately, we went into this conflict
in a strong position with President Trump's policies, US production
of oil and natural gas are record highs, and our
alliances with other energy productions around the world are in
good shape.
Speaker 10: Well, I think they're going to meet most of those obligations.
And I think what's really important here is we think
about the marketplace itself. It's the release of those strategic
petroleum reserves. The announcement that they were going to release
four hundred million barrels perhaps even more, serves as a
good bridge to the end of this conflict. That will
suffice for many of these economies to have that oil
come into the marketplace. So I also think that the
sanctioning some of the oil very temporarily will also relieve
some of the pressure that's being driven primarily by traders.
At this point, you've probably seen some of the up
and down swings of the price of oil in the
market over the course of the last seven or eight days,
and most of that's being driven frankly by press announcements.
So it gives you a good sense that a lot
of this is market psychology, not the physical availability in
the oil place.
Speaker 11: Well, whatever was going on twelve hours yesterday really turned
those markets around today.
Speaker 12: Over the weekend, Trump threatened to destroy a RAN's made
your power infrastructure for Aroon did not come to the table.
Then this morning, after all the bluster and all the threats,
he appeared, Trump appeared to retreat, suddenly claiming there are
major points of agreement with the regime, even as Iran
flatly denies it, and there are no diplopanetic talks.
Speaker 10: Why don't we look, well, I don't know about this
week bill, to be honest, I mean I think it
could happen this week. And I think that's what the
President is trying to establish. You know, what he's done
with the attacks on carg Island for instance, is to
send allows signal to the Iranian regime that it's time
to come to the table and begin a negotiation to
end this conflict and importantly, more importantly for the world
to end their stranglehold over the straight of woe moves.
And I think that's what the President's attempting to do here. Yes,
he did make the threat about the electric grid, the
infrastructure there that provides them a generation of electricity all
throughout our country. Those are very loud signals and provides it.
I think an offer for the Iranians to come to
the table helped to they do it this week, But
we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 1: Okay, got a bit all right, So he says, the
markets expect things to turn around rather quickly, and yet
then turn then on the other side of his mouth,
he says, but it's going to take a long time
to rebuild a lot of the facilities that have been
damaged so far in this war, in some of the
Middle Eastern countries that have been damaged from the war.
So which is it? Is it slower?
Speaker 8: Is it fast?
Speaker 1: Well, he was the former energy secretary in Trump one
point zero. Chris Wright is the current Energy secretary, and
he sounds very similar to what Dan Broulette was talking about.
Speaker 11: We see a pathway to have the straits of horror
moves open soon and energy flowing again. You'd see energy
prices drop pretty significantly. Fortunately, we went into this conflict
in a strong position with President Trump's policies. US production
of oil and natural gas are record highs, and our
alliances with other energy productions around the world are in
good shape.
Speaker 1: Well, that's very optimistic. I've interviewed and talked to and
listened to a lot of oil analysts from around the world,
and they say, if it stopped today and they open
the Straight of Hormuz, it will take a long time
to rebuild the world's supply of oil and gas. A
lot of it's been damaged. So I hope they're right.
I'm trying to be positive, but I'm going there's a
lot of damage to the oil and gas industry in
this world, and that's going to take a time, a
little bit of time, more than just real quick turnaround.
I don't want to promise you something. I don't want
to overpromise to you. Oh yeah, this is going to
get two weeks from that will be fun. No, I'd
rather tell you that the cold, hard truth, and I
think it's going to take at least a couple of months.
Prices don't come down quickly. They will drop. You're going
to get some ninety dollars barrel oil dropping to maybe
seventy five dollars barrel, which is a great drop, but
it's still way above what we were dealing with sixty
dollars barrel gas just three weeks ago. So let's move
on to another well functioning oil government agency. TSA part
of the Department of Homeland Security, and Mark Wayne Mullen
was man. They handled that quickly. He went through the
Committee and then right to the Senate and they voted
in favor of him yesterday. And so today the President
swore in Mark Waynemullen as the new Secretary of Homeland Security.
He's got his hands full. I think he is a
he has very successful business experience, so let's see if
he can apply that to the Department of Homeland Security.
But there's a lot of people pointing the finger at
the Democrats, including Joe Scarborough Mourning Joe the favorite program
Democrats in the Morning, and here he has Chuck Schumer
on the show with him this morning. Listen to this conversation.
Speaker 13: Is it a good thing that Iran I think you
would agree with me epicenter of terrorism in the worlds
in nineteen seventy nine? Is it good that their military
infrastructure is being degraded in the degree that it is yesternight'.
Speaker 12: It's you can't because it's a premature question. What is
going to happen in the next several months.
Speaker 13: No, No, I can ask that question, I no, no, no,
I can't let me answer the question for everybody in America.
The answer yes, I just don't agree with you. Well,
what you don't understand me. There's a big difference. I
would say that most Americans would say it's a good
thing that it's degraded.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 1: Are the Democrats being taken down by fellow Democrats?
Speaker 8: Not sure?
Speaker 1: John Fetterman, he's also not happy with the Democrats, even
though he is one.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying is that I refuse to always vote
to shut our government down. I would never be a
part of this mess. This shutdown has created across America's
airports now now constant constantly speaking to TSA agents, and
every single one of them are saying we are hurting
and we haven't been paid. And remind people they earn
average about fifty thousand dollars a year. They rely on
their pay checks now and now even not being paid,
they have to face those crowds now. So I just
can't imagine why we want to continue these things. Just
like the fast shut down, the only people that loses
are the workers and America.
Speaker 1: So that's we're recording this podcast today on Tuesday, afternoon.
There's rumor that they're may be able to come up
with some sort of solution, but I haven't seen it yet.
John Kennedy, the Senator from Louisiana, had this to say.
Speaker 14: Well, well, Senator Schumer, in this instance anyway, he's lying.
He's lying like fish swim. I mean, here's what's going on.
We've been We've had DHS shut down for thirty eight days.
I think the Democrats at one point voted to fund
DHS and then they backtracked. We've been debating the Save
Act for I don't know ten days. I guess we're stuck.
I'm a big believer that when you're stuck, you ought
to try to plow around the stump, not through it.
So Senator Cruise and I a few days ago came
up with a two step process to solve both problems.
Step one, we would open up everything at I at
DHS except ICE, including TSA, which the Democrats have already
agreed to. And then we would UH, we would fund
ICE through reconciliation, which we could do only with Republican votes.
We wouldn't need any Democratic votes. I don't speak for
Senator Cruise on this part of it. But I also
have suggested that we use the reconciliation process with only
Republican votes to pass the Save Act. Now, Senator we
pitched this to Senator Thune a couple of days ago.
He pitched it to President Trump.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 14: President Trump, as you know from his his tweets, said no.
But I talked to Senator Thune last night and he
says the President has reconsidered and maybe on board.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're talking about the reconciliation process means something
that has to do with the buy It has to
do with money. All you need is fifty one vote.
You don't need sixty otherwise you need sixty under regular order.
So Kennedy addressed that as well.
Speaker 14: I think we can clearly do it for Ice. The
doing it for the Save Act is a closer question.
And look, some the Senate has a lot of lawyers,
and on both sides, and they're all good lawyers. I mean,
they're all astonishing, the self assured all of us think
that we're you know, we're Oliver Wendell's Khalia. But what
I would do is enlist some outside help that has
a lot of experience with a budget control Act. I've
seen things passed muster under the Budget Control Act that
I didn't think had a hope in hell. And I've
seen some that couldn't pass my suster that I thought
were slam dunks. But it's our only shot. I mean,
it's our only shot, and I think it's worth taking it.
The American people are tired of us speechifying and yelling
at each other. I'm tired of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, some of the reports are quick, others are
more between four and five hours. I wouldn't stand in
line for fourig No, you're not going to find me
doing that. The President thinks that they should pass this
legislation for Jesus.
Speaker 15: I'm tying homeland security into voter identification with picture and
proof of citizen citizenship in order to vote. And those
two items are the most important thing having to do
with homeland security. So it's part. It should be part
of the Homeland Security bill, and I'm requesting that the
Republican Senators do that immediately. You don't have to take
a fast vote, don't worry about Easter going home. In fact,
make this one for Jesus.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think that complicates this because just have
a vote, a straight vote about funding TSA then have
another vote about the SA the Save Act, but putting
them together just creates more and more problems. Update on
the plane crash at LaGuardia. This is this is going
to be an interesting investigation because there's all kinds of
things that apparently went wrong. I just got a flash
just a little while ago, and it said that the
runway safety system allowing air traffic controllers to track movements
of planes and vehicles did not work. Every vehicle that
is driving around on airport property, they have a transponder
in them so that they can controllers can see where
they are, and there are alert systems. If they start
getting close to a runway, air traffic control gets an alert.
There's also before you cross a runway, namely, the fire
truck was going to cross runway for at LaGuardia, there
are a whole row of lights and those lights are
flashing red if there's a plane on the runway. I
don't know if the fire if it wasn't working or
the people driving the fire truck didn't see it. The
people driving the fire truck should have looked. Even though
they were given a clearance to cross runway four, they
still need to look. I've seen this, and I drove
an emergency I've drove ambulance when I was in college
that was a highway patrol. When I drove in emergency vehicles,
I drove emergency vehicles of different sizes. When you're going
through an intersection, a lot of there's people that drive
emergency vehicles that think that they are somehow protected by
emergency vehicle angels or I don't know what they're thinking,
but they go blowing through intersections thinking that the lights
and sirens will keep everybody away. But if you've ever
driven an emergency vehicle, you know that there's people just
don't hear you, or they don't know where you're coming from,
and so you need to slow down at intersections, even
though you got your lights and sirens going. And so
the people in the fire truck, even though they had
their lights going, and I don't know if they had
a siren going, but the pilots when you come into
an airport, there is so much ground clutter and so
many lights that are flashing. They're all over the place.
That fire truck would not have stood out, and the
fire truck operator needed to slow down to see if
there was a plane on the before they crossed it.
I don't care that they got the okay from the tower.
The tower, yeah, they made a mistake. They even admitted
they messed up. So you got the tower that made
a mistake, You've got the people driving the fire truck
made a mistake. Maybe you've got the system to alert
the air traffic controllers of a vehicle coming toward the runway.
You've got the light system that should have been flashing red.
It doesn't sound like a lot of things went went
the way they were supposed to. Here's the head of
the NTSP.
Speaker 16: They have a lot of questions for air traffic control,
everything from workload at the time, who was communicating, who
was in the tower cab, who was in the facility,
what the changeover was like for the new shift, which
is the midnight shift. We have questions about communications and
then that will be revealed on the cockpit voice recorder,
which we were able to recover in the flight data recorder.
Our air traffic control specialist who was in line with
TSA for three hours until we called in Houston to
beg to see if we can get her through so
we can get her here.
Speaker 11: So it's been.
Speaker 16: A really, really big challenge to get the entire team here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, joined the crowd. I mean, every business traveler has
a company they're responsible. Now, I'm sorry your investigator could
not get through a three hour line any faster. There
wasn't anything. The plane had already crashed, It wasn't going
to move. The fire truck was still on its side
on the runway.
Speaker 8: Anyway.
Speaker 1: But the NTSB does a great job. But I thought
that was a little bit much that she was complaining
about her investigator couldn't get through the three Well, there
was a lot of people that couldn't get through all
right Wall Street today, Well, it was all over the map.
One of the things about that I'm concerned about, I'll
share it with you. With the President threatening to take
action within forty eight hours, and the markets all tanked
after he did that. That was over the weekend, and
the futures markets were all sharply lower. In the overseas
markets in Japan and Singapore, they took a huge dive.
And I can't help but wonder if the President saw
that and said I better say something about we're working
out some sort of negotiation. I wonder if that did
play into it. Was Is he trying to manipulate the
market when it tanks and try to boost it by
saying something positive at the same time. President Trump has
always long before he was president, he does overseell. He's
a salesman. He does overseell, over promise, and so that
boosts the price of stocks, higher, price of oil goes down.
I wonder if he's got any if that's part of
what's going on. I'm just talking out loud with you
here about this. It does concern me. But today the
markets started off way down three hundred plus points, came
back to be positive by I don't know, one hundred
points or so, then down below where we started, then
back above again, and then finished on a decline, not
a big one, but it was quite a road to
get there. The Dow down eighty four to finish at
forty six one twenty four. The S and P it
was down twenty four to win, above and below the
where we started this morning, but down twenty fourth the end.
The Nasdaq same, down one hundred and eighty four. It
never got back to where we started this morning, but
it was up and down, up and down below The
water one price of gold was up and seeing that
for a while, up fifty dollars to four thousand and
four to fifty seven and oil from where we started
this morning. It was also a roller coaster, but at
the end it was diving. It had been up around
ninety two dollars for a high, but it's still finished
above where we started this morning, up one dollar price
of a barrel of oil. West Texas Intermediate eighty nine
dollars for a barrel of oil. So that's it for today.
Thank you for coming by. We will be back again
tomorrow and I hope to see you