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Aaron's back, and we literally have no idea what we're
going to talk about. I mean, we mentioned one thing,
but but yeah, normally we're sitting here reading something, examining something. Nope, Nope,
Aaron's just putting up a wall there, and I'm wondering
if it's going to be bloodstained by the end of
the show.
Speaker 2: Well, we can hope so, because things seem to happen
on a Thursday, right after Timeline Earth puts out the news,
and that's very inconvenient. I find.
Speaker 1: Well, I think they just, you know, the closer to
the weekend, less people will even you know, people meme
it all weekend and forget about it on Monday when
they come out with something some new bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or just Elon likes to get into his k
hole on Thursdays. We might need to adjust.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we sort of had to allude
to that on the on the Old Glory Club livestream
last night. We didn't really talk we didn't really talk
about it because I mean, it's the ultimate slop. It's
just pure slop.
Speaker 2: It is it is. Let me ask you this, Do
you think that Trump and Elon are natural enemies? Are
they existential enemies?
Speaker 1: No? I mean I think they both are basically. I mean,
I think the difference is there. They are two businessmen,
quote unquote. There's some weird stuff in Elon's background that
I question, but you know, one is making you know,
the quickest way to become a billionaire is to do
business with the government. Yeah, I mean that's you know
Howard Hughes figured that out early on, and so many
have figured that out. I mean all throughout time.
Speaker 2: One would say it's a requirement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just about so. And you know, Trump, from what
I understand of his business holdings, with the exception of you,
I mean, some of them look shady, but with the
exception of the post office in d C. That I'm
not going to get into. My friend Monica Perez as
a whole rabbit hole. She goes down with that or
in a lot of cases, rabbi hole. But the it
seems like Trump, you know, made his money by branding
and you know, putting his name on on buildings. You know,
there was something, you know, there was stuff he did
early on, but.
Speaker 2: You know, shedding risks. He was very good at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So are they natural enemies? They shouldn't be. But
I wonder if how Trump actually I don't know that
I've ever heard Trump comment on what he feels about
people who you know, directly do business with the governments
to get to the you know, become i mean, much
more wealthy than Trump has ever been.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, Yeah, it's just it's an interesting question. I see
a lot of interest in the friend enemy distinction on
the timeline right now in the context of this current
spat between them, and you know, if you're wondering if
this is an OP or not, I would be of
the opinion that it is, because there there's no reason
for them to be existential enemies, and there's got to
be something at the end of this that's designed to
draw a reaction from somebody.
Speaker 1: Do you I mean, if this was an OP, he
would have had to clear what Trump in the beginning
the whole Epstein thing. Yeah, that throwing that out there
is you know, well, I'll tell you this. I've watched
people that I've known for years more on the libertarian
side completely exposed themselves as like at like they've been
hiding the fact that they have TDS this whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as if Trump, Trump's name being mentioned in the
Epstein files is some surprise, I mean, like we all.
I think we all pretty much know the story between
him and Epstein. I mean it was it was social
he got kicked out of mar A Lago because he
was a creep. I mean, I I would be surprised
if it went much further than what we already know. Well,
I mean but yeah, I mean in terms of Elon
and Trump's spat right now, I can see how that
would be red meat. I don't think it's anything more
than a little red meat for people who already hate Trump.
Speaker 1: To Jewan, well, I mean it's the it's it's beautiful
watching like the cat turn to the world. You know
who are like so far up Trump's ass. I mean
they're more familiar with his proctological exam than his actual proctologist.
I mean, just like stop fighting, stop fighting and the
you know, but but.
Speaker 2: The Democratic yeah, the Democratic account for the U for
X is demanding the release of the Epstein files.
Speaker 1: Now, come on, well, I mean here, all right, So
from what I understand, and I mean, this could all
be an op. I mean, apparently everything is an op.
And like somehow the all you know, certain groups are
one group that works together has managed to manage us
to control everything. But yet doesn't have us living in
pods yet, doesn't have us eating the bugs yet, you know,
which lets me believe that there are competing still competing
factions out there. But if it is true that the
New York FBI office like had all of this stuff,
if Trump was in there, don't you know, and Trump
could be incriminated in the worst behavior possible. I mean
you would think that would have came out in either
twenty sixteen or in the least last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean it's it's I think it's
designed to elicit a reaction from some other party that
they need to react.
Speaker 1: So in order to believe that this is this is
all an op. I mean, you're I don't know, Yeah.
I mean when I saw when I saw it happening,
it was happening like in real time as I was.
I recorded a lot yesterday and I was doing as
on Mike Ferris's show, and he's just we're just reading
this stuff in real time, like when that when that
one dropped while we were recording, And you know, it's
for somebody who has spent an inort amount of time
between libertarianism and now around spurks. I recognize I recognize
Elon Musk for being a sperg. Yeah, and I don't
put that behave I don't put it past him that
that that behavior, that he he's capable of that behavior,
and he just you know, fucking.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's uh add in some ketamine and I guess,
I guess it is a good recipe for a complete
crash out.
Speaker 1: Anyone who doesn't think that he's a the spectrum in
some way, shape or form, has never like watched him talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, this whole thing with the big
beautiful Bill, I think this might be kind of an
inflection point where a lot of people on the right,
I mean not so much this audience. I think we
all kind of know where we stand between the people
that value national identity, whether it's race, religion, or culture,
versus the techno commercialist side that actually it's in their
best interest to be principled fiscal conservatives and to bring
you know, bring the debt down, bring the depth sit down,
all these things that we know better than to care
about on any principled level. This was probably bound to happen.
And that's kind of the other side of the Tago
War that maybe this isn't the op.
Speaker 1: Well, the interesting thing about this whole thing is is
that I've been concentrating so much on philosophy and you know,
things of a more abstract nature lately that I mean,
I don't really know anything that's in the big beautiful bill.
I mean, I know that there's you know, a lot
of economic stuff, but I also know that there's other
things in there, and you know, to the economic thing,
what you know, what I would say is, I mean,
who gives a shit about any of that? I mean
unless you deport like forty million people?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, if.
Speaker 1: You don't deport forty million, I mean, people can be
screw and all it is the people who are screaming
about the economic side of it. These are economic sperks.
They need to signal that they're correct on how economics works,
and that's that's all they care about.
Speaker 2: I'll give them a little more credit in correctly identifying
that this this government is a parasite and there is
no escaping it. And the more you can disrupt and defund,
the more capable people like Elon Musk will be to
achieve their ends, you know, whether that's mass ai ubiquity
or getting us to Mars or whatever they're you know,
take your pick on fucking sci fi future space communism,
and so I give them credit with that. Yes, in
order to achieve you know, post scarcity, we're going to
need to deal with this Leviathan. But right now that
doesn't matter whether we're on a timeline. Like you said,
we need to we need to deport forty million people,
and we do not have the logistics to do that,
which brings me to my next point. You want to
know what's in this bill. Something that I found very
interesting in this bill is where is it? This is
Section sixty thousand and three US Customs and Border Protection Technology,
vetting activities, and other efforts to enhance board security. I'll
just go line by line and give you a dollar value.
Artificial intelligence and machine learning one hundred and fifty million,
autonomous surveillance technology, two hundred million, data systems and analytical tools,
one hundred million, vetting systems and operations, two hundred million,
innovative border technologies seventy five million. So there is a
certain organization that is, if the pattern tells us anything,
this organization is going to get the lion's share of
those budget allocations. And I think you know who I'm
talking about.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the P word?
Speaker 2: I am, Unfortunately I am the Talmudic network cents its regards.
Speaker 1: Now, I do want to go back, Let's get back
to this because this is important. But I do want
to go back and say I'm when I say that
forty million people need to be deported, I'm not saying
forty million people need to port it to be deported
because we need to save the government. No, we need
to save we need to save the nation, the Polus,
the people. Yes, that's what's most important. And you know
this government can go away. I mean, you know, I'm
talking with Cameron McGregor the other day, who was you know,
been around, done a lot military contracting, BC kind of stuff. Also,
he has a pretty famous father. He he's we were
talking about succession about you know, these groups of young
men who realize that if they do not step up
and take control of you know, the people, the Polus,
their area, whatever. It is not even talking about political
talking about if they don't start to build something different,
this is all gone. This is all gone. And you
know what he you know what he predicts and what
I pretty much see, especially with how quickly the Old
Glory Club has grown and is growing every single day.
I mean, beyond anything I could have imagined, you know,
two and a half years ago, that it's going to
get to the point where groups like ours are popping up,
already exist, and we're going to realize that we we
basically need each other and we're gonna be the only
We're gonna be the only thing to say, is it?
And I'm you know me, I'm an old guy, I
and I'm just doing what I can to rally, you know,
tell people to join or die, and to you in
part wisdom, try to put the philosophy out there that,
you know, the philosophy of the past that will need
to go forward. And yeah, I mean that's why when
you told me, you know, hey, let's talk about this
in the in the big Beautiful Bill. I haven't even
read the Big Few. I don't know what's in it,
mostly because that's just slopped to me. I don't care.
It doesn't really, it doesn't play into unless you are
going unless there's something in there about rail lines and
airlines and boats being massive, massively filled and just physically
removing people. I don't really have any you know, they're
tell me if there's you know, something dangerous, and they're
to me personally or to my you know, my people.
But you know this is interesting because you know now
that with me saying that, you can talk about what
we were the P word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to be clear, I don't have any any
ideological opposition to what pallunteer does for the government. They
collate data. They make sure that all these different databases
can be searched and scraped by other agents, interagency cointegration,
whatever you want to call it. They make data more
accessible and they make it enabled to be scraped by
by AI. So, uh, for this administration, that's a that's
a good thing. For last administration, good thing they were
in competent because that that would have been really bad
if they weren't. But one thing that's uh, that's been
kind of an argument lately is how do we well,
what is the root cause of not deporting people fast enough?
I think we broke a record the other day, something
like three thousand deportations in a day, which, if you
extrapolate that out, is still nowhere near I mean I've
always said twenty million, but if it's forty million, that's
even worse, nowhere near where we need to be. And
so those budget line items that I just I just read.
What that is is Palenteer integrating their processing power, their
compute into the actual hardware of things like facial recognition drones.
You know, it's a surveillance state that we used to
be afraid of and now we don't really care about.
Well now I kind of care about it because not
so much from a libertarian perspective, but for the simple
reason that all that money should be able should be
going to logistics. Logistics is the bottleneck that's not allowing
us to depart ten thousand people a day. We have
we only have so many, so many resources, so many
ice agents, so many buses, planes, boats, everything that you
just mentioned. So all that money, I mean, just on
a just from a utility standpoint, we don't need facial recognition.
You and I can look at somebody and hear them
talk and say they don't belong in the country. Does
that make sense to you? I'm interested in your perspective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no it does. And when you talk about logistics, yeah,
I immediately think of things like, okay, you don't have
enough people to do this. Okay, So I just you
know Groc's I don't think Groc is I don't take
Grock's word on everything. I mostly use Groc to throw
documents in there so I can scrape. I use Grock
to scrape documents for me. It is pretty much what
I what I do. But I said, how many veterans
are there in the United States of America? Is that
as a twenty twenty three, approximately fifteen point eight million
veterans live in the United States, representing about six point
one percent of these all population. How many of those
veterans you know that are you know still, you know
a lot of these veterans are going to be older,
past the age of doing physical work as such.
Speaker 2: I'm getting there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, how many of them do you think would
be willing to volunteer a couple of days a week,
a couple of days a month to help with us?
How many do you think that are?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, yeah, So there's on.
Speaker 2: A community over fifty percent absolutely, And my my percentage
might be low because I live in Massachusetts and volunteering
for to be a storm trooper probably would probably would
put your life in danger, to be honest, true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, like in the South, in the
South where you know a and and insane amount. You know,
all you have to do is go do any town
in Alabama that has a lot of chicken houses or
not really not really like individually owned chicken house because
I know people who owned chicken houses who work them themselves,
and if they have to hire somebody, they'll hire somebody
for like a day. And you know, normally it's someone
they know, someone someone local that they know. But you know,
when you go up to a town like Albertville, which
has I believe they have a Tyson plant and everything
like that, and they're just they just bust Mexicans and
and recently found out in the last year Haitians in there.
So yeah, I mean down here in the South where
I think, what are the numbers of military that actually volunteer,
you know, go in voluntarily, is like I think it's
overwhelmingly from the South, right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely Texas. I think one out of every
four people in my ship was from Texas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you, I mean, this is doable. But once again,
what it always comes back to, whether you're a liberty
whether you're advocating for libertarian solutions, whether you're advocating for
you know, very forceful, you know, I mean, I don't
even know what we would call that. I mean, to me,
these are logical solutions. Is you just have to get
people out of here who don't belong here and who
are absolutely destroying the country and destroying you know, the
people of the country, driving up the price of everything. Yeah,
it comes down a will and who has the will
to do it? You know, this whole palanteer thing. I'm
not one of those people who's like, oh, well, you know,
if you grow the government whenever and this is a
big libertarian line lol. Cows talk about this all the time.
If you grow the government, you know, the next your enemy,
when they get power, is just going to use it,
use it against you.
Speaker 2: They're going to use it against you and worse, no
matter what.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is and that's what we, you know,
we've been saying. And you know, mister Paul Fahrenheit not
on yesterday's OGC livestream, but the one from I think
it was May twenty ninth, you know, basically did an
eleven minute monologue, you know, not monologue, but you know,
a little speech towards the end. What do they call
it the speech at the end. I even asked that
on the if you close out with a you know,
with a a speech, close out your thing with a speech,
I don't know, whatever, whatever you tack on to the
end of it, I'm retarded. And he basically said, look,
I mean, if this is all great, you can do
all this, you can do what you need to do.
But if you do not destroy your enemy, they're going
to get back in power at some point, and when
they get back in power, they are going to kill you.
Especially this. I mean if the last if Trump's first
four years and the reaction to it and the last
four years tell you anything, and then you have them
pushing people like Jasmine Crockett or AOC or even Gavin Newsom,
I mean, who's like friggin It looks like he's right
out of American Psycho.
Speaker 2: Well, let me stop you there, because I have been
on this kick where I am in a deep blue
state that has highly competent political operatives. I would actually
argue that weaponizing bioleninism at a state or a local
level is a viable path for environments like mine, where
I don't want Mara Healy or Gavin Newsom, who are
highly competent political operatives, who are able to wield power effectively,
not not good, but effectively. Bioleninism is something that I've
been trying to get certain members of the Massachusetts Republican
Party to consider, you know, funding funding the blackest, most
transgender Muslim heroin addict possible to run against these highly effective,
mostly white people.
Speaker 1: And you how dangerous do you think that is.
Speaker 2: It's only dangerous if they get caught.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not talking about funding it. I'm talking about
if you if you actually get that complete you know,
psychopath in there. I mean, yeah, sure they are. I
know where you're going with. I understand biolininism. You're looking
to get incompetent people in there. But incompetent people have
a tendency when they're incompetence is revealed or they can't
hide it anymore, to resort to extreme violence. And we
saw that in Spain in the nineteen thirties.
Speaker 2: But that's why I say at a state and a
local level, because at the federal level, yes, you can
cause some damage, it's been done before, but at a
at a local level, I mean they get invested in
ninety nine percent of the time, they're going to end
up in an embezzlement case or in a fraud case.
We just had a counselor in Boston like hire her
cousin for a fake job and then get a kickback
of like sixty grand a year from the fake salary.
So like they cannot help themselves. And that's who that's
the people you want in there. You want them to
be in it dated you want you want those systems
to be inundated with idiots that cannot help themselves, but
to take and not cover their tracks. It's going to
it's it's going to take some pain for a lot
of my neighbors, even even people in my family to
lose this this old Irish Catholic, I am a Democrat
no matter what mindset.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean what and we know this will happen
if things get bad enough. I mean, states are not
autonomous anymore. They work with the federal government. So if
you have somebody, if you have people in Washington who
are competent, especially NGO's people, you know groups like that,
I mean I don't.
Speaker 2: But right now, in this current administration, this would be
the perfect time to change tack. We don't want. We
don't want competent people that are good at undermining the
federal government. We you know, Michelle Wu, I know that
she looks stupid, but her husband is like works for
really I forget what company, like JP Morgan or something,
but uh, extremely influential. And we don't want that. We
want a hostile federal administration and an incompetent local administration.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2: And at this point, it's about helping the FEDS, which
is something I never thought i'd say in my lifetime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: That's kind of how I put it to a couple
of the state level guys, like, at this point, we
want to help with the FEDS.
Speaker 1: How does that? How does that help? How do you
see that working out in the long run.
Speaker 2: It's it's not really a long run plan. It's a
it's leveraging the opportunity that we have right now with
people like Trump and jd Vance and Tom Homan basically
just running cover for them while we can by by
you know, taking out people that could competently resist them. Okay, huh,
And again I want to run it by you too,
because I'm still kind of gaming it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: It's hard because you're in Alabama, you're in Paradise.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, well, I meant built we still have a
a governor who is what eighty ninety years old or
something like that, who.
Speaker 2: You know is.
Speaker 1: If they put an anti semitism bill in front of her,
she's probably going to sign it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean yeah, when you
when I start talking to people like in Montana and
they're like, oh, Bozeman's overrun. Bozeman's been overrun by Liberals.
And you start talking to people like in Idaho and
they're like, yeah, more people from California, more ship Libs
from California are moving here. And then you go to
you look at like Texas, which you know, I love Texas.
Every time I go to Texas, I feel like I'm
in another country. It's pretty fucking awesome. But also Texas
has some of the worst fucking I mean, some of
the most evil politicians are I mean in the state,
in the state legislature, the Republicans are just evil. I
mean they I I'm not even talking about like you know,
like oh, you know, like anti semitism laws. I'm talking
about like the left. They'll just like be fine with
the left doing stuff, and they'll pass a leftist legislative,
leftist legislature or you know, promote it, or you know,
whatever they need to do. It's not making so much noise.
Speaker 2: Just expanding Austin un till it encompasses the entire state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean, I yeah,
let's go to this. I mean, I just do not
see how at any point, at some point in the
future and maybe even in my lifetime, who knows how
long that's going to be, that we don't have like
violence in this country. And I'm not talking about like,
you know, we've had violence. We've seen violence. We've seen
you know, people forget that. The summer of the summer
of George, it's like thirty eight to forty people got
murdered in the streets. Yeah, and yeah, a lot of
those people were in a lot of those people were
just innocence, and you know, some shop owners. We don't
we don't even talk about that anymore. But I'm talking
about like regional like regional fighting, like regional like militia fighting.
Speaker 2: And that's if we don't succeed right with with mass
deportation or is that I.
Speaker 1: Think, how could it not still happen? You still have
you still have a country where, you know, even if
you get rid of forty million people who are I
think there's like forty million illegals here. If you get
rid of all the illegals, you still have what You
still have people.
Speaker 2: Who are ideologically motivated, which illegal immigrants aren't.
Speaker 1: Right exactly, so you get rid of you know, you
need to get rid of these people just so that
fucking you know, a twenty five year old can afford
to buy a fucking house again. Now, I mean, I
know there's places like I mean, I know twenty year
olds that are buying houses, but you know they're they're
buying them in locations that are ye the house. The
housing market is still you can still get a house
for one hundred hundred and twenty thousand dollars. I was
talking about a nice house. But you know, you're you're
a little more remote, and you're you know, you're not
in a city or close to a city. You're not
in a suburb, you know, or you're not in you know,
you're not in the fancy zip code that everybody that
we've been taught that we know that's where we want
to live. And yeah, I just don't see how if
you have, if people are so ideologically possessed, and especially
on the left, I mean we're talking about important forty
million people. We're not I mean, they're not gonna be
deporting if they were able to pull that off. They're
not deporting like college professors that were born here, you know,
are that are no literally their families have been here
for you know, three four hundred years. Yeah, there's a
lot of people I know who like their family has
been here for three or four hundred years, and they're
like firmly on the right who don't even want to
accept the fact that there are like daughters of the
American Revolution who were total shiit lips.
Speaker 2: Yes, the uh the Unitarian Universalist church down the street
from me, like right next to my Catholic church has
been i mean their pastor or reverend or whatever the
hell they're called is like Mayflower Society. So you know,
it's this is where I kind of this is where
I I start to disagree with the more racialist wing
is how do you solve for that? And the answer
is can't just be well, you got to get rid
of the Jews, the Jews made them this way, so
you're demodetized.
Speaker 1: Now, oh I'm demonetized anyway, But I mean the yeah,
I mean people don't realize that. All the people who
are like, well, you know, it's you have to we
have to get every Jew to leave the country, and
then you know, we get it's like their mentality, the
mentality that they've brought, you know, that they've inserted into
our culture for the last hundred years. It's it's there,
you can they could be removed theoretically, I'm not calling
for that anyone who's listening. And you're still going to
have to deal with the fact that you're you're you
still have usury, you still have a central bank, you still.
Speaker 2: Have sexual you still have Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about you know, people think that it's
going to be like, oh, well, you know, we just
have to do the Turner Diaries or it's just absolutely
a complete race war and you're going to have the
Day of the Rope. And it's like, yeah, is that.
I mean, that's like libertarian stuff. That's like, it's one
of the reasons why I can't deal with libertarians, because
you have to look at things realistically and figure out
how you're going to deal with things realistically, and someone
and you know, anyone who's screaming right now, well that's
the only way we're going to survive. Well that's to me,
you're just like you know, a libertarian or a narco
capitalist screaming we just got in the state, bro, we
have anarchy. Everything will be good because it's just as realistic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's been one of my I mean, I
am on that bus all the way. To me, racialism
is more utility. I accept the science, but I don't
accept the spirituality of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really made into a religion and it's not.
Speaker 2: No man. We started off on talking about palenteer and
then got all the way to race war.
Speaker 1: All right, so yeah really so all right Palenteer. I
mean the way I look at it is and here's
what I was saying, not to sound like a lull cow,
but if you don't destroy your enemies, I mean, that's
just gonna they can. Yeah. That's the problem I have
when libertarian say that is is me when I when
I see an increase, when when I think to myself
need an increase in power to do certain things. One,
I'm like it doesn't really bother me, because I mean,
the when it's all the left will just you know,
use it. It's like left will do something anyway. They'll
crease their power anyway, and they're much better at it
than the people who get elected on the quota, who
you know, we assume are right wingers who are really
just actually liberals and classical liberals and you know James
Lindsay types, and you know, bought and sold by the
Israel lobby or whatever or whatever lobby there's they're tied to.
Speaker 2: It could be they have to be due for realignment.
I mean, James Lindsay and all those, all those people, like,
what's their shelf life? Really? I mean, I don't see
them having any influence whatsoever. And even in the next
two or three years.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean they don't have any influence. I
don't think they have influence at all. I don't think
they're influencing anything. I don't think anyone you know, in
power is listening to them. But it still stands to
reason that the ideology that they're promoting is pretty much
held as like the ideology of the United States of
that's that's who we are. And they don't they don't
realize that that's not the ideology of of like the Founding,
it's the ideology of the Civil Rights Act and James Yeah,
and people like James Lindsey and the joel Berries of
the world, they know that. That's why Joel Berry, you know,
when he's debating Dave the Distributist, Dave's distributist asked him,
were the Founder's racist? Joel Berry has to say no.
I mean he literally said no. He said he was
making out. He literally said they were like some of
the greatest civil rights uh uh, you know, proponents of
all time.
Speaker 2: They didn't really want to hold slaves. No, they they
had a black best friend.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just makes no sense. And really, what
does what does racist mean? Back then, they realize that
there are differences between the races and that they shouldn't be.
If there are going to be if there is going
to be a different race than the white European Protestant
race in the United States, they're going to have to
be subjected. They're going to have to be, you know,
under the thumb of a group. And I mean people
even understood that up until even after the war, and
once you got past reconstruction.
Speaker 2: The consensus for the founders was, you know, if they
cared about it at all, was to ship them to
Liberia or that you know that that type of mechanism
was to you know, we'll solve the slavery problem by
shipping all the African slaves back to Africa. Yeah, it
was nowhere near what it is now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is you know interesting. You know, it's like
now people are like, well, you know what we have
to do is we have to ship blacks back to Africa.
We need to get you know, we need to get
them out of the country. And while I do understand that,
you know, I understand black crime statistics. I get it, man.
And you know, it's if one thing that's really come
to the forefront in the last few months is you know,
the fact that more and more people are revealing the
fact that they have end fatigue. Yep, you're not You're
not getting rid of them. You know, it's like you're
you're not you can do things to make I don't
even know if you do things to make them self
deport Yeah, I mean, I mean they're just here and
you're going to have to figure out a way to
deal with it. And the only real way to deal
with that is you have to have yeah, segregate well,
I mean yeah.
Speaker 2: And either probably informal like informal segregating.
Speaker 1: And also you have to have the I think you
have to have the attitude that a lot of them
are children and they need to be treated as such. Yeah,
and that has to be openly accepted in the culture.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you can have a program that
turns them all into Clarence Thomas, I mean, that's a
solution too. But again, like the racialists, rather just kill them,
and I don't I don't really like that.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there are some who've proven that they
cannot exist in society.
Speaker 2: And yes, it would it would be.
Speaker 1: Better if they were like sent to Seacot or something
like that, you know, if.
Speaker 2: Yes, that has to be part of that program. I
mean it's it's it's almost a eugenic.
Speaker 1: Problem, yes, yea. And there's no there's really no way
of getting around it at this time. There's no way
of getting past it. So yeah, you have so to
circle back. Like your girl used to say, we the
issue is it always goes back to will And you know,
I've never been I've I've been one of these people
who throughout the whole run last year, I was noticing things,
and I was reporting on things, and I was saying,
this could actually be better for our guys. I've and
I don't think the whole like time, and you know,
maybe people can go back and try to find my
words when I said this. I don't think I was
ever saying that, you know, we're trying to save the government.
I think we were trying to make things better for
our people. And if the PayPal mafia turns out to
be you know, this whole thing about palans here and
you know they are pro Israel, well then fuck them.
But I still come back to the fact that you know,
there are still people out there who will say, you know,
they really wish Kamala would have one, to which you know,
I say, I think.
Speaker 2: You're how does that solve the Palenteer problem? We do?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, well, look who would have control
of talent here. I mean, they would be doing business
with the government still they could, They're just selling it
in a different way.
Speaker 2: The people that are saying maybe that would be better
if Kamala had one are the same people that view
Palenteer and the PayPal mafia as the major threat ahead
of everything else. So to me, like, I know the
type of person you're talking about, and uh, that's I
don't know. I think they need to uh, I think
they need to percolate a little longer before they start
talking about politics.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, these are also the same people that leave
if they just get their guy elected president that that
you know, he can change everything. He'll have the will,
he'll have the will to change everything. Well, I mean,
we don't want to save this government. No, that's not.
Our goal is not to save this government. And as
many you know, as many boomer brained, and that doesn't
mean that they have to be, you know, part of
the boomer generation. I'm saying boomer brained as they've bought
into the whole boomer Boomer truth regime as as AA
put it. I like that. I like that terminology a lot. Then,
you know, basically you're saying that you agree with them.
It's just that you agree with them that we need
this government. It's just the government's going to be. You
can make the govern a lot better if it's you,
Like you're going to go in there and you're going
to fire like two point two, Like I said, you know,
Trump needed to go in there on the first day
and fire two point two million people, you know, like
literally like two point two million people. I added, like
the whole you know, the departments and everything listed, and
it's like, yeah, you just need to get rid of
all this. You know, the State Department is now Trump
and two advisors on zoom or you know, a stream
yard talking to you know, private you know, leaders of
other countries around the world. You don't need, you don't
need all of these, you know, the managerial state. How
do you destroy the managerial state? Well, I mean most
people don't even know what the managerial state is, So
how do you people most people don't know that. You know,
a lot of these people are so naive. Is to
believe that there won't be somebody in the inner circle
ready to put a knife in your back or yeah,
or you know, more realistically, a bullet in your brain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as as we've seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean the only way that I see
see out of this is groups of basically building what
comes next. And yeah, I think that's always what it's
been because this is a dying system. The reason the
system doesn't work anymore is it can't work no one
can make it work. It's obsolete, it's you can't. No one,
no one in history, in the history of this world,
could govern three hundred and twenty five million people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the tech bros know that. I
think we know that, the tech bros know that, and
even I mean even some of the libertarians know that.
But that's just a matter.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to live. I don't want to
live in the society they want to build.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. I don't want to live in the
Techboro society either.
Speaker 1: No, no, And so so Palin's here, do you think
you know what I said on the on the stream
last night is what what a lot of people on
on this side of the Great divide As as the
man would call it, you know, would worry about. Is
that the fact that right now they're going after, you know,
ship Libs and progressives and commies on campuses and everywhere
who are being accused of anti Semitism. Some of them
may be literal anti Semits, some of them just maye
want Israel to stop doing what they're doing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm interested in your thoughts on that, is,
is there a utility argument to that? You know, let
them go after anti Semitism as long as it harms
people we hate.
Speaker 1: Well, it's that whole thing of Okay, So when when
do they come for us? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the question. Yeah, I mean, I
don't know if you saw. There was a zero Hedge
article that was this, I think it was released yesterday. Yeah,
it was yesterday. It was dated at the fifth and
basically said that Trump had fired three of the biggest
Zionists in the administration. I'll pull up the article real quick.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I know, Mike Waltz is out. And then
I saw that, uh, this is somebody in is it
a Treasury or the SEC or something.
Speaker 1: So says here. This is from zero Head yesterday via
the Cradle between May in early June and what insiders
call an America First Course correction. The US President Trump
has been removing key pro Israel hardliners from his foreign
policy team. He has reported targeting individuals known for their
militaristic views on Iran and deep alignment with Israeli policy,
often in ways critics say undercut broader US strategicals. Such
individuals include National Security Council officials Eric Traeger, Merev Sarin,
and Morgan Ordigus. The purge comes after Trump's visit to
Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Qatar in May, a trip
that notably bypassed Israel. So you know, according to sources
familiar with the changes to President is looking to replace
outgoing officials with voices and this is going to make
some people just completely spurg out, But I'll say it anyway,
with voices more aligned with Vice President jd Vance's anti
interventionist stance, in an effort to reassert White House control
over West Asia policy and curbs curb Israel's internal influence
on US decision making. Former National Security Advisor Mike Waltz
was among the first to be pushed out after reports
that he had coordinated with Israeli Prime Minister Berenjamin Enya,
who want a potential preemptive strike against Iran without the
approval of the United States.
Speaker 2: So they will never they will never let us extricate
ourselves from the Middle East. We want to pivot to
China so bad, but they will never let us go.
Speaker 1: Well, it's so, I mean the pivot to China. I
don't want war with China, obviously, I mean I don't.
I don't want war with anybody unless you know they're
they have You absolutely have to. But you know, China
controls so much of manufacturing, even for the smallest little items.
We can build bombs with, well, you can't build planes with.
I mean, that's that has to come home. And you know,
you just don't you know, you don't know what to,
you don't know how they're going to do it. You
don't know. Yeah, I mean, here's a way it has
to happen. And people don't want to hear this. You
have to do what the Austrian painter did. You have
to start nationalizing things. You have to you have to
open you have to build factories that are national factories.
And here this is where we're going to build. It's
what Russia, it's why Russia can be in this war
and grind down Ukraine. The way they are is they
make their own stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no there's no profit and loss statement that
you have to worry about.
Speaker 1: A country that doesn't manufacture their own military equipment. I mean,
and fully I'm talking about fully.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on paper, we do is.
Speaker 1: A slave to another country? Is a slave to ever
does one of the things, Yeah, one of the things
in this article is said is mayor of Saran's removal
drew particular attention given her well known ties to Israel's military.
Before her role as National National Security what is that
thing in the National Security Council, she had worked with
Israeli's Ministry of Defense and was closely linked to the
Foundation for Defensive Democracies FDD, a Washington think tank known
for its hardline stance in Iran and vocal support for
Israeli military campaigns in Lebanon. We literally have, I mean,
we have spot. How do you think that this How
do you think this government gets fixed? How does anybody
think that this gets fixed? You think she's it? You
think you get rid of all these people that there
aren't people there who they don't know, who aren't working
behind the scenes, who aren't as vocal, who didn't work,
who aren't you know, they don't have pictures of fucking
you know that they don't have pictures of like all
of these people fucking kids or watching kitty porn or
just watching porn. For some some people, I mean, it's
you can't fix this. I just don't. I don't get
it's so funny that you the same people who will
say No, the United States has to keep going the
way it is right now. You know. It's like camer
McGregor said something the other day that Stormy has been saying.
He's saying, really, when it comes down to it, the
United this country then, not the country, but the nation
was growing and it got stunted and it got stopped,
and it basically hasn't been able to become the polus
that it needs, that it was meant to be. But
you can actually look at this country. You're still being
young when you look at like empires in the past,
like we can actually not the government, but the nation itself,
the people, the polity can actually keep going and can
improve and can flourish, and we can have a high
culture again.
Speaker 2: A portion of us can.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the whole point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's that will eventually happen.
There needs to be a categorical attitude shift in these
up and coming generation, people younger than you and I,
even in how they how they view their role as citizens,
as members of their community. And like you said, that
that is extracted from the past. It's as forgotten as
it is. Uh. People need to people, the people that
do put in the effort to remember it and to
emulate it. Are I think you've mentioned this before, going
to be like a parallel society.
Speaker 1: Well, it has to be, because this Washington isn't going
to die. You know, the government isn't going to die.
It'll weaken, it'll transform, it'll but it's not going to
transform into anything good. No, because I mean, and like
I said again, you cannot have a central government for
three hundred and fifty million people. It's it's what Sam
Francis talked about in Leviathan and its Enemies, the revolution
of mass and scale. You you cannot scale it. It
just can't scale. It's impossible. Anybody who thinks that it
is possible is suffering from hubris.
Speaker 2: Can you even have a founding mythos for three hundred
and fifty million people?
Speaker 1: How?
Speaker 2: How?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, it's you know, I don't
really I don't really try to hold on to the
past at all. I mean, I know where, I know
where I came from, and I know that the flag,
the flag behind this has Spanish colors in it, but
that's the flag of Alabama. That's the Saint Andrew's Cross.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The only reason, Yeah, the only reason I do that
is because I realized that, you know, that flag is
the flag that is flown outside of every government building
is a government flag. And I have no problem with it,
but I have a problem with what it's become.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, it meant something at one point, especially when
it had a lot of fewer stars on it. Yeah,
it meant something. And I just, you know, was like,
all right, until we can figure out what this is,
I'm gonna fly my own flag. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you're yeah, your family means something, your neighbors mean something,
your town might mean something. But uh, you know, it's
at the further the further that concentric circle expands, uh,
the less it means. Yeah, and people, and the people
who who remember that are going to be the ones
that succeed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean, I consider myself to be a
part of the nation. I consider myself to be a
part of I consider myself to be grafted into the
founding stock of the nation. And I've had people from
the founding stock say I that they consider that too,
They consider that I've done that that you know that
I you know, I have no place else to go.
Where the fuck am I going to go? I've tried
to live in other countries, always come back here. Why.
This is where I'm this is where I'm from, This
is I mean, I don't know anything else. I don't
know how to be anything other than an American. Yeah,
I just I don't. I've tried, and yeah, I mean
when you until this can get until we can figure
out the way forward. And I mean I think the
way forward is smaller groups and it really changing the
way people looking to change the way people think. Have
a have a feeling of inclusiveness in that group. That
that's yeah, that that's you're a part of this group.
Speaker 2: You and an appreciation for a common heritage.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it almost seems at this point like
we're are looking to the past of what this nation
was at one point and we're taking the trying to
bring the best parts of that and understanding that there
are certain parts of that just don't work anymore because
of because of technology. How things have changed, how people think,
how people have even evolved through the technology, through the
through the technological revolution, and the technological revolution keeps going.
But you take things from the past, and you take
the best things from the past and you apply it
and you bring it forward and you build something new basically,
but the new thing is built on the best parts
of where we used, of what we used to be
and what we used to understand we were. If that
makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess you know the inevitable part of
that is to expect and be be very forceful when
when people who's who has who have a vested interest
in making sure that that doesn't happen. Uh, realize what
you're doing and realize that you're being successful.
Speaker 1: Sure, and you're you know, that's why planning is important,
but you also you know, it's a fine line to
walk in that I want things to get cheaper and
I want you know, I want money to I want
money to mean more. I know the bitcoin bitcoin bros
Are like, oh, you know, we just need bitcoin and
everything like that. Okay, I mean you're going to need
someone in power with the will to make that happen.
I don't know that. I don't know who that is.
So yeah, in the meantime, I want my I want
my people to thrive, and so that means I want
the money to be I want the money to be
stronger and worth more. But I also understand that at
the same time, I want this government to go away,
and in that there's a decha, you know, there's a
deca Well, there's a contradiction there. If the money get
if the money gets better and gets stronger, then you know,
the government can get a little more and get more
power and get back maybe get back on its feet.
But you know, when it comes to I just I
don't think that it understanding that it can't scale. It's bound,
it's bound to fail.
Speaker 2: You know, the medium of exchange in the store of value.
I mean that's to me, that's always been secondary. Yes,
it's something that you should buy bitcoin, sure, but that's uh,
that's one minute out of your day. And then what
are you doing for the rest? You know, what are
you prioritizing? That's I I love I love my my
bitcoin bros that I talked to, but uh, you know there,
I just think that they're missing the forest for the trees.
Speaker 1: I mean, I consider bitcoin the bitcoin guys who just
type over and over again on Twitter. Bitcoin solves this
to be just as spurgy and retarded as the ones
who if somebody they someone disagrees with them, they just
call them a jew.
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the dip, by.
Speaker 1: The dip by the dip, by the tip. It's like,
just how about how about you just buy yeah, if
you believe in it, so, if you believe it so
much by yeah, so Palenteer.
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, yeah, Palenteer has been doing their thing
for a while. And uh, you know, I'm looking at
my notes right now. Let's see. I mean I was
talking about, oh, you know what, so part of the
big beautiful bill is a moratorium on states regulating AI
for ten years, bringing it back to Pallenteer getting all
this money for AI and machine learning and integration with
surveillance and immigration enforcement hardware. Combine that with the moratorium
on nobody's allowed to regulate AI for ten years except
for the FEDS. What that tells me is that this
current administration is supremely confident in the next election.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, well here's I guess
the problem with that is is what are they doing
on the state level to make sure the elections can't
be stolen again?
Speaker 2: On the state level, I mean, I guess, like anything else,
it depends on the state. But yeah, I can tell
you that my state is everything's fine. The elections are
certified relatively quickly, and I can guarantee you that it's
going to be about eighty twenty ds and ours. Yeah, well,
I mean it's more like sixty forty.
Speaker 1: But you know, the thing is is that you know,
like I think Desansus redistricted and reconfigured Florida in such
a way, jerry mandered it in such a way that
it's almost impossible for a Democrat to win the governorship now,
or at least that's the way he's done it. Until
you know, the next crackhead gets elected in Florida, because
Florida can be stupid. Florida man, Florida man.
Speaker 2: Is very real, sometimes holds elected office.
Speaker 1: But when you but when but when you know, you
look around and the states are in charge of their
own elections, then that's that, you know, that's a problem.
You know, I mean Pennsylvania. Yeah, one of the things
that is because five years ago, oh, I mean like
five months ago or six months ago, there was an
election and one of the things you know, we were
saying about Pennsylvania was one of the reasons why I
didn't think they would turn on the voting machine, you know,
turn on the cheating machines to steal the election. Was
that people like Joshapiro want to run for president in
twenty twenty eight, and if Kamala Harris would have won,
that means she would have pretty much just been default
twenty you know, twenty twenty eight candidate. You know, some
people will tell you that the reason they weren't turned
on is because they want Trump to be president, because
you know Trump will is going to oversee the downfall
of the country, or the Jews planned all this and
every single you know that this was all the Jews.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: We still have to people. I think people assume right
now that if Trump gets enough accomplished over the next
four years to make his base happy, that jd evans
will just be in twenty twenty eight, twenty thirty two.
And I always go I always go back to the
voting machines, and it's like, well, if they turn on
the chieving machines again, they'd be pretty easy to make
sure that that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: So well, there's not only electoral implications, but there's also
just you know, no regulation on AI in general other
than the I should say the FED federal regulation supersedes
the state for at least ten years. What that tells
me is that they want to build data centers and
they don't want zoning laws getting in the way, which
I think Thomas Massey mentioned that as like a critique.
I don't really care about that, but also that in
the context of immigration enforcement, they do not want the
states to pull the sanctuary city bullshit and be able
to put in any type of non compliance on the
state level.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that from what I understand
listening to, you know, some podcasts on AI and listening
to some of the AI people talk, is that AI
is going to scale up to the point where the
power grid's not going to be able to handle it anymore.
So we're also going to have to deal with the
fact that they're talking about nuclear power, needing nuclear power
to run.
Speaker 2: These substations, nuclear substations for individual facilities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's interesting. That also puts to me that
that's also something that will be handled at the federal level.
That won't be it won't allow the states to get
involved in that. So does that lead to if you're
doing that for AI, and does that lead to them
federalizing more and more and more at the state level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. You know, what will the
landscape look like in terms of you know, I guess
funding at the state level. I mean, that completely circumvents
any need for the state to ask for funds if
it's all in the FEDS. Man. Yeah, yeah, that's a
lot to chew on. And I don't know, I don't
really know how I feel about that, because I would
like to not have a data center down the street
from me, But at the same time, I know it's
probably gonna happen anyways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of hard to not see that the
future where the future is going if there isn't some
kind of state revolt, revolt at the state level again
against you know, the FEDS doing these things. And the
crazy thing about it is is that, you know, this
is one of the things that you could you could
say one of the reasons people would want Trump in
there is is that if the states started to rebel,
even red states, Trump's space is so die hard that
they would, you know, call the they would call those
states traders, and.
Speaker 2: They would legitimize the reaction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why politics works, you know. It's so
I hate having to say this to people, and I
hate having to remind people of this because you know,
once you start talking, once you start talking about how
how the real way politics works, people, you know, they
immediately start to jump to terms like cope and stuff
like that.
Speaker 2: But is.
Speaker 1: The average person even you know, especially like the average
and non And we love our nons, don't we.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: A lot of them don't. Just don't know how things
work and how things operate. There are a lot of
nons out there who no more than me. But that's
I mean, I'm not going to say a lot, there are.
Speaker 2: Some, but give yourself some credit.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I get to people tell me stuff
in the background, so yeah, you know, tell me stuff
that's happening in the background, and then it happens. But
and I don't go public with it because I want
people to keep telling me stuff in the background, because
that's the way politics works. You know, just to use
an example of how politics works. But you know, the
way politics works is is that you One of the
ways it works is that you get people to someone
gets elected, you see that they have a rabid base,
and then you do everything you possibly can to suck
up to that person in power so that you can
get something done that normally people would be like, I
don't know about that. I don't know about that. I
don't know whether it's anti Semitism laws, whether it's federalizing
you know, ai AI data centers, the power that's going
to take to control it, federalizing a police force to
for mass deportations, things like that, things that you know,
historically a lot of Americans would have been like, it
seems like an overreach, but because it is. And I'm
not saying that any of these things are bad, mind you,
I'm not. I don't even have a I'm just bringing
up things that are that I'm thinking off the top
of my head that I think are very important. But
I really don't know if I have a position. I
haven't really formed a position on them yet. But yeah,
I mean, if you have someone with a strong base
and you can get them to do things that normally
you know that president wouldn't do, and especially like a
quote unquote Republican president, then you know, that's pretty pretty
damn intelligent, pretty smart. But that's politics, and you know,
I think that a lot of things can be We
live in an age where an average person on Twitter
who has a decent size following can get retweeted by
bigger accounts, and it can whatever they're talking about can
make its way to the ears of power and actually
have an effect. But I have a tendency to believe
that those changes won't happen unless they may have already
been considered. Yep, you know that. I don't think you're
going to change. You know, you're not going to you know,
this pivot to Asia that they want so bad. At
this point. I don't think there's anything that in a
noon or someone on Twitter can do to prevent that.
People in power can prevent it by you know, false
flagging and starting a war with Iran or something like that.
But I think, you know, I think the Anon can
do things, or the person on Twitter can do things
that can actually cause change, cause the government to act.
But I don't think it's going to be something that
they they'll do that will go against what, you know,
what was already planned in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, you know, it's just legitimizing things that they
already we're already on the docket to begin with, within
within that probability cone that existed prior you know, I.
Speaker 1: Was that cone or Cohen.
Speaker 2: Well, uh, the pivot to Asia. Yeah, it might be con.
Speaker 1: That was good. Well, I know you, I know you
have a heart out, so let's uh, let's check out. Oh.
I saw somewhere that there was like a new boys
Town with Aaron episode, but you're actually like going to change.
It's not gonna be Boys Town with Aaron episode. And
then I listened to it and I'm like, that's not
a Boystown with Aaron episode, and he's he's just fooling
us and he's lying again.
Speaker 2: No, I I did have to retire that program. I
set out to fundamentally change podcasting, and after four episodes,
I think I achieved my goal. I uh, the news
is dead. T L no longer does the news anymore.
And that's really all I wanted.
Speaker 1: That's just insane. How the bird is like the number
one news man in America? How well, how can you
do that?
Speaker 2: Oh it's it's it's easy. I just uh, you know, hustle,
loyalty in respect.
Speaker 1: All right, man, promote what you want. We'll end it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You can. Uh. You can find me at uh
a underscore Underscore returns UH on x dot com and
you can see me or hear me every Wednesday on
Timeline Earth.
Speaker 1: That every Wednesday gets me every time.
Speaker 2: Every single Wednesday, man without fail.
Speaker 1: All right, man, thank you, appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on