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Aaron's back, and we literally have no idea what we're

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going to talk about. I mean, we mentioned one thing,

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but but yeah, normally we're sitting here reading something, examining something. Nope, Nope,

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Aaron's just putting up a wall there, and I'm wondering

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if it's going to be bloodstained by the end of

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the show.

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Speaker 2: Well, we can hope so, because things seem to happen

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on a Thursday, right after Timeline Earth puts out the news,

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and that's very inconvenient. I find.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think they just, you know, the closer to

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the weekend, less people will even you know, people meme

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it all weekend and forget about it on Monday when

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they come out with something some new bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or just Elon likes to get into his k

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hole on Thursdays. We might need to adjust.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we sort of had to allude

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to that on the on the Old Glory Club livestream

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last night. We didn't really talk we didn't really talk

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about it because I mean, it's the ultimate slop. It's

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just pure slop.

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Speaker 2: It is it is. Let me ask you this, Do

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you think that Trump and Elon are natural enemies? Are

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they existential enemies?

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Speaker 1: No? I mean I think they both are basically. I mean,

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quote unquote. There's some weird stuff in Elon's background that

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the quickest way to become a billionaire is to do

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business with the government. Yeah, I mean that's you know

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Howard Hughes figured that out early on, and so many

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Speaker 2: One would say it's a requirement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just about so. And you know, Trump, from what

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exception of the post office in d C. That I'm

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not going to get into. My friend Monica Perez as

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a whole rabbit hole. She goes down with that or

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in a lot of cases, rabbi hole. But the it

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seems like Trump, you know, made his money by branding

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and you know, putting his name on on buildings. You know,

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there was something, you know, there was stuff he did

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Speaker 2: You know, shedding risks. He was very good at that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So are they natural enemies? They shouldn't be. But

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people who you know, directly do business with the governments

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to get to the you know, become i mean, much

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more wealthy than Trump has ever been.

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a lot of interest in the friend enemy distinction on

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who are like so far up Trump's ass. I mean

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they're more familiar with his proctological exam than his actual proctologist.

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to control everything. But yet doesn't have us living in

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which lets me believe that there are competing still competing

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factions out there. But if it is true that the

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New York FBI office like had all of this stuff,

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if Trump was in there, don't you know, and Trump

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could be incriminated in the worst behavior possible. I mean

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designed to elicit a reaction from some other party that

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Speaker 1: So in order to believe that this is this is

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all an op. I mean, you're I don't know, Yeah.

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I mean when I saw when I saw it happening,

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it was happening like in real time as I was.

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this stuff in real time, like when that when that

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for somebody who has spent an inort amount of time

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between libertarianism and now around spurks. I recognize I recognize

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Elon Musk for being a sperg. Yeah, and I don't

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put that behave I don't put it past him that

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that that behavior, that he he's capable of that behavior,

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and he just you know, fucking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's uh add in some ketamine and I guess,

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I guess it is a good recipe for a complete

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Speaker 1: Anyone who doesn't think that he's a the spectrum in

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some way, shape or form, has never like watched him talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, this whole thing with the big

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beautiful Bill, I think this might be kind of an

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all these things that we know better than to care

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about on any principled level. This was probably bound to happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, the interesting thing about this whole thing is is

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I don't really know anything that's in the big beautiful bill.

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of economic stuff, but I also know that there's other

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what you know, what I would say is, I mean,

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who gives a shit about any of that? I mean

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unless you deport like forty million people?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, if.

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Speaker 1: You don't deport forty million, I mean, people can be

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screw and all it is the people who are screaming

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about the economic side of it. These are economic sperks.

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and that's that's all they care about.

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Speaker 2: I'll give them a little more credit in correctly identifying

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that this this government is a parasite and there is

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no escaping it. And the more you can disrupt and defund,

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the more capable people like Elon Musk will be to

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and so I give them credit with that. Yes, in

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which brings me to my next point. You want to

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interesting in this bill is where is it? This is

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Section sixty thousand and three US Customs and Border Protection Technology,

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vetting activities, and other efforts to enhance board security. I'll

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just go line by line and give you a dollar value.

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Artificial intelligence and machine learning one hundred and fifty million,

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autonomous surveillance technology, two hundred million, data systems and analytical tools,

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one hundred million, vetting systems and operations, two hundred million,

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innovative border technologies seventy five million. So there is a

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certain organization that is, if the pattern tells us anything,

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this organization is going to get the lion's share of

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Speaker 1: Are you talking about the P word?

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Speaker 2: I am, Unfortunately I am the Talmudic network cents its regards.

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Speaker 1: Now, I do want to go back, Let's get back

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to this because this is important. But I do want

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to go back and say I'm when I say that

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forty million people need to be deported, I'm not saying

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forty million people need to port it to be deported

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because we need to save the government. No, we need

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to save we need to save the nation, the Polus,

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the people. Yes, that's what's most important. And you know

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this government can go away. I mean, you know, I'm

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men who realize that if they do not step up

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talking about if they don't start to build something different,

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this is all gone. This is all gone. And you

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tell people to join or die, and to you in

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read the Big Few. I don't know what's in it,

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mostly because that's just slopped to me. I don't care.

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going unless there's something in there about rail lines and

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airlines and boats being massive, massively filled and just physically

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removing people. I don't really have any you know, they're

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tell me if there's you know, something dangerous, and they're

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to me personally or to my you know, my people.

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But you know this is interesting because you know now

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that with me saying that, you can talk about what

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we were the P word.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And to be clear, I don't have any any

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ideological opposition to what pallunteer does for the government. They

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collate data. They make sure that all these different databases

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can be searched and scraped by other agents, interagency cointegration,

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whatever you want to call it. They make data more

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accessible and they make it enabled to be scraped by

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by AI. So, uh, for this administration, that's a that's

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a good thing. For last administration, good thing they were

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in competent because that that would have been really bad

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if they weren't. But one thing that's uh, that's been

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kind of an argument lately is how do we well,

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what is the root cause of not deporting people fast enough?

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like three thousand deportations in a day, which, if you

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extrapolate that out, is still nowhere near I mean I've

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always said twenty million, but if it's forty million, that's

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even worse, nowhere near where we need to be. And

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so those budget line items that I just I just read.

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What that is is Palenteer integrating their processing power, their

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compute into the actual hardware of things like facial recognition drones.

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be afraid of and now we don't really care about.

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so much from a libertarian perspective, but for the simple

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reason that all that money should be able should be

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going to logistics. Logistics is the bottleneck that's not allowing

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us to depart ten thousand people a day. We have

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we only have so many, so many resources, so many

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ice agents, so many buses, planes, boats, everything that you

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just mentioned. So all that money, I mean, just on

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a just from a utility standpoint, we don't need facial recognition.

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You and I can look at somebody and hear them

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talk and say they don't belong in the country. Does

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that make sense to you? I'm interested in your perspective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no it does. And when you talk about logistics, yeah,

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I immediately think of things like, okay, you don't have

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enough people to do this. Okay, So I just you

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know Groc's I don't think Groc is I don't take

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Grock's word on everything. I mostly use Groc to throw

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documents in there so I can scrape. I use Grock

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to scrape documents for me. It is pretty much what

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I what I do. But I said, how many veterans

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are there in the United States of America? Is that

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as a twenty twenty three, approximately fifteen point eight million

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veterans live in the United States, representing about six point

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one percent of these all population. How many of those

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veterans you know that are you know still, you know

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a lot of these veterans are going to be older,

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past the age of doing physical work as such.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, how many of them do you think would

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be willing to volunteer a couple of days a week,

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a couple of days a month to help with us?

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How many do you think that are?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, yeah, So there's on.

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Speaker 2: A community over fifty percent absolutely, And my my percentage

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might be low because I live in Massachusetts and volunteering

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for to be a storm trooper probably would probably would

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put your life in danger, to be honest, true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, like in the South, in the

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South where you know a and and insane amount. You know,

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all you have to do is go do any town

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in Alabama that has a lot of chicken houses or

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not really not really like individually owned chicken house because

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I know people who owned chicken houses who work them themselves,

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and if they have to hire somebody, they'll hire somebody

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for like a day. And you know, normally it's someone

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they know, someone someone local that they know. But you know,

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when you go up to a town like Albertville, which

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has I believe they have a Tyson plant and everything

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like that, and they're just they just bust Mexicans and

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and recently found out in the last year Haitians in there.

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So yeah, I mean down here in the South where

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I think, what are the numbers of military that actually volunteer,

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you know, go in voluntarily, is like I think it's

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overwhelmingly from the South, right.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely Texas. I think one out of every

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four people in my ship was from Texas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you, I mean, this is doable. But once again,

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what it always comes back to, whether you're a liberty

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whether you're advocating for libertarian solutions, whether you're advocating for

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you know, very forceful, you know, I mean, I don't

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even know what we would call that. I mean, to me,

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these are logical solutions. Is you just have to get

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people out of here who don't belong here and who

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are absolutely destroying the country and destroying you know, the

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people of the country, driving up the price of everything. Yeah,

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it comes down a will and who has the will

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to do it? You know, this whole palanteer thing. I'm

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not one of those people who's like, oh, well, you know,

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if you grow the government whenever and this is a

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big libertarian line lol. Cows talk about this all the time.

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If you grow the government, you know, the next your enemy,

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when they get power, is just going to use it,

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use it against you.

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Speaker 2: They're going to use it against you and worse, no

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matter what.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing is and that's what we, you know,

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we've been saying. And you know, mister Paul Fahrenheit not

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on yesterday's OGC livestream, but the one from I think

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it was May twenty ninth, you know, basically did an

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eleven minute monologue, you know, not monologue, but you know,

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a little speech towards the end. What do they call

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it the speech at the end. I even asked that

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on the if you close out with a you know,

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with a a speech, close out your thing with a speech,

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I don't know, whatever, whatever you tack on to the

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end of it, I'm retarded. And he basically said, look,

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I mean, if this is all great, you can do

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all this, you can do what you need to do.

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But if you do not destroy your enemy, they're going

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to get back in power at some point, and when

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they get back in power, they are going to kill you.

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Especially this. I mean if the last if Trump's first

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four years and the reaction to it and the last

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four years tell you anything, and then you have them

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pushing people like Jasmine Crockett or AOC or even Gavin Newsom,

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I mean, who's like friggin It looks like he's right

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out of American Psycho.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me stop you there, because I have been

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on this kick where I am in a deep blue

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state that has highly competent political operatives. I would actually

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argue that weaponizing bioleninism at a state or a local

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level is a viable path for environments like mine, where

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I don't want Mara Healy or Gavin Newsom, who are

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highly competent political operatives, who are able to wield power effectively,

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not not good, but effectively. Bioleninism is something that I've

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been trying to get certain members of the Massachusetts Republican

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Party to consider, you know, funding funding the blackest, most

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transgender Muslim heroin addict possible to run against these highly effective,

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mostly white people.

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Speaker 1: And you how dangerous do you think that is.

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Speaker 2: It's only dangerous if they get caught.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not talking about funding it. I'm talking about

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if you if you actually get that complete you know,

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psychopath in there. I mean, yeah, sure they are. I

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know where you're going with. I understand biolininism. You're looking

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to get incompetent people in there. But incompetent people have

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a tendency when they're incompetence is revealed or they can't

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hide it anymore, to resort to extreme violence. And we

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saw that in Spain in the nineteen thirties.

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Speaker 2: But that's why I say at a state and a

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local level, because at the federal level, yes, you can

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cause some damage, it's been done before, but at a

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at a local level, I mean they get invested in

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ninety nine percent of the time, they're going to end

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up in an embezzlement case or in a fraud case.

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We just had a counselor in Boston like hire her

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cousin for a fake job and then get a kickback

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of like sixty grand a year from the fake salary.

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So like they cannot help themselves. And that's who that's

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the people you want in there. You want them to

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be in it dated you want you want those systems

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to be inundated with idiots that cannot help themselves, but

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to take and not cover their tracks. It's going to

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it's it's going to take some pain for a lot

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of my neighbors, even even people in my family to

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lose this this old Irish Catholic, I am a Democrat

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no matter what mindset.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean what and we know this will happen

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if things get bad enough. I mean, states are not

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autonomous anymore. They work with the federal government. So if

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you have somebody, if you have people in Washington who

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are competent, especially NGO's people, you know groups like that,

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I mean I don't.

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Speaker 2: But right now, in this current administration, this would be

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the perfect time to change tack. We don't want. We

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don't want competent people that are good at undermining the

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federal government. We you know, Michelle Wu, I know that

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she looks stupid, but her husband is like works for

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really I forget what company, like JP Morgan or something,

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but uh, extremely influential. And we don't want that. We

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want a hostile federal administration and an incompetent local administration.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I get that.

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Speaker 2: And at this point, it's about helping the FEDS, which

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is something I never thought i'd say in my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of how I put it to a couple

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of the state level guys, like, at this point, we

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want to help with the FEDS.

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Speaker 1: How does that? How does that help? How do you

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see that working out in the long run.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not really a long run plan. It's a

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it's leveraging the opportunity that we have right now with

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people like Trump and jd Vance and Tom Homan basically

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just running cover for them while we can by by

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you know, taking out people that could competently resist them. Okay, huh,

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And again I want to run it by you too,

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because I'm still kind of gaming it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's hard because you're in Alabama, you're in Paradise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, well, I meant built we still have a

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a governor who is what eighty ninety years old or

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something like that, who.

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Speaker 2: You know is.

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Speaker 1: If they put an anti semitism bill in front of her,

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she's probably going to sign it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean yeah, when you

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when I start talking to people like in Montana and

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they're like, oh, Bozeman's overrun. Bozeman's been overrun by Liberals.

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And you start talking to people like in Idaho and

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they're like, yeah, more people from California, more ship Libs

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from California are moving here. And then you go to

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you look at like Texas, which you know, I love Texas.

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Every time I go to Texas, I feel like I'm

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in another country. It's pretty fucking awesome. But also Texas

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has some of the worst fucking I mean, some of

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the most evil politicians are I mean in the state,

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in the state legislature, the Republicans are just evil. I

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mean they I I'm not even talking about like you know,

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like oh, you know, like anti semitism laws. I'm talking

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about like the left. They'll just like be fine with

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the left doing stuff, and they'll pass a leftist legislative,

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leftist legislature or you know, promote it, or you know,

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whatever they need to do. It's not making so much noise.

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Speaker 2: Just expanding Austin un till it encompasses the entire state.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean, I yeah,

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let's go to this. I mean, I just do not

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see how at any point, at some point in the

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future and maybe even in my lifetime, who knows how

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long that's going to be, that we don't have like

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violence in this country. And I'm not talking about like,

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you know, we've had violence. We've seen violence. We've seen

473
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,119
you know, people forget that. The summer of the summer

474
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,720
of George, it's like thirty eight to forty people got

475
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:10,720
murdered in the streets. Yeah, and yeah, a lot of

476
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:12,519
those people were in a lot of those people were

477
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,400
just innocence, and you know, some shop owners. We don't

478
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,960
we don't even talk about that anymore. But I'm talking

479
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:26,160
about like regional like regional fighting, like regional like militia fighting.

480
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:32,799
Speaker 2: And that's if we don't succeed right with with mass

481
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,559
deportation or is that I.

482
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: Think, how could it not still happen? You still have

483
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,400
you still have a country where, you know, even if

484
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,119
you get rid of forty million people who are I

485
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:51,160
think there's like forty million illegals here. If you get

486
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,319
rid of all the illegals, you still have what You

487
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,000
still have people.

488
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: Who are ideologically motivated, which illegal immigrants aren't.

489
00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: Right exactly, so you get rid of you know, you

490
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:08,759
need to get rid of these people just so that

491
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,759
fucking you know, a twenty five year old can afford

492
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:14,559
to buy a fucking house again. Now, I mean, I

493
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,559
know there's places like I mean, I know twenty year

494
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:19,839
olds that are buying houses, but you know they're they're

495
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:23,920
buying them in locations that are ye the house. The

496
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,799
housing market is still you can still get a house

497
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,119
for one hundred hundred and twenty thousand dollars. I was

498
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,559
talking about a nice house. But you know, you're you're

499
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:33,880
a little more remote, and you're you know, you're not

500
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:36,599
in a city or close to a city. You're not

501
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,240
in a suburb, you know, or you're not in you know,

502
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:41,599
you're not in the fancy zip code that everybody that

503
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,359
we've been taught that we know that's where we want

504
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:50,119
to live. And yeah, I just don't see how if

505
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,559
you have, if people are so ideologically possessed, and especially

506
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:58,519
on the left, I mean we're talking about important forty

507
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:00,960
million people. We're not I mean, they're not gonna be

508
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,319
deporting if they were able to pull that off. They're

509
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:07,519
not deporting like college professors that were born here, you know,

510
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:11,639
are that are no literally their families have been here

511
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,599
for you know, three four hundred years. Yeah, there's a

512
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:16,679
lot of people I know who like their family has

513
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:18,599
been here for three or four hundred years, and they're

514
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,239
like firmly on the right who don't even want to

515
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480
accept the fact that there are like daughters of the

516
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:25,719
American Revolution who were total shiit lips.

517
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: Yes, the uh the Unitarian Universalist church down the street

518
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,880
from me, like right next to my Catholic church has

519
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,440
been i mean their pastor or reverend or whatever the

520
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,639
hell they're called is like Mayflower Society. So you know,

521
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,599
it's this is where I kind of this is where

522
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:51,960
I I start to disagree with the more racialist wing

523
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,119
is how do you solve for that? And the answer

524
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,440
is can't just be well, you got to get rid

525
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,039
of the Jews, the Jews made them this way, so

526
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:03,159
you're demodetized.

527
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:11,599
Speaker 1: Now, oh I'm demonetized anyway, But I mean the yeah,

528
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:14,280
I mean people don't realize that. All the people who

529
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,559
are like, well, you know, it's you have to we

530
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,440
have to get every Jew to leave the country, and

531
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,239
then you know, we get it's like their mentality, the

532
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,760
mentality that they've brought, you know, that they've inserted into

533
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,840
our culture for the last hundred years. It's it's there,

534
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,960
you can they could be removed theoretically, I'm not calling

535
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:47,039
for that anyone who's listening. And you're still going to

536
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:51,079
have to deal with the fact that you're you're you

537
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:58,239
still have usury, you still have a central bank, you still.

538
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:02,519
Speaker 2: Have sexual you still have Yeah.

539
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: So you're talking about you know, people think that it's

540
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,519
going to be like, oh, well, you know, we just

541
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:11,079
have to do the Turner Diaries or it's just absolutely

542
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,280
a complete race war and you're going to have the

543
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,800
Day of the Rope. And it's like, yeah, is that.

544
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,039
I mean, that's like libertarian stuff. That's like, it's one

545
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:24,039
of the reasons why I can't deal with libertarians, because

546
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:26,960
you have to look at things realistically and figure out

547
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,320
how you're going to deal with things realistically, and someone

548
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,679
and you know, anyone who's screaming right now, well that's

549
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:38,800
the only way we're going to survive. Well that's to me,

550
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,239
you're just like you know, a libertarian or a narco

551
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,360
capitalist screaming we just got in the state, bro, we

552
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,000
have anarchy. Everything will be good because it's just as realistic.

553
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's been one of my I mean, I

554
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,960
am on that bus all the way. To me, racialism

555
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:03,400
is more utility. I accept the science, but I don't

556
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,280
accept the spirituality of it.

557
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really made into a religion and it's not.

558
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: No man. We started off on talking about palenteer and

559
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,239
then got all the way to race war.

560
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: All right, so yeah really so all right Palenteer. I

561
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,760
mean the way I look at it is and here's

562
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,880
what I was saying, not to sound like a lull cow,

563
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,320
but if you don't destroy your enemies, I mean, that's

564
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,679
just gonna they can. Yeah. That's the problem I have

565
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,920
when libertarian say that is is me when I when

566
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,719
I see an increase, when when I think to myself

567
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,480
need an increase in power to do certain things. One,

568
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,320
I'm like it doesn't really bother me, because I mean,

569
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,639
the when it's all the left will just you know,

570
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,840
use it. It's like left will do something anyway. They'll

571
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:03,880
crease their power anyway, and they're much better at it

572
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,519
than the people who get elected on the quota, who

573
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,440
you know, we assume are right wingers who are really

574
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:15,679
just actually liberals and classical liberals and you know James

575
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,719
Lindsay types, and you know, bought and sold by the

576
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:27,039
Israel lobby or whatever or whatever lobby there's they're tied to.

577
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:31,199
Speaker 2: It could be they have to be due for realignment.

578
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:35,400
I mean, James Lindsay and all those, all those people, like,

579
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,000
what's their shelf life? Really? I mean, I don't see

580
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:43,679
them having any influence whatsoever. And even in the next

581
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:45,400
two or three years.

582
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,599
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean they don't have any influence. I

583
00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:49,880
don't think they have influence at all. I don't think

584
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,880
they're influencing anything. I don't think anyone you know, in

585
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,920
power is listening to them. But it still stands to

586
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,280
reason that the ideology that they're promoting is pretty much

587
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,360
held as like the ideology of the United States of

588
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,880
that's that's who we are. And they don't they don't

589
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:12,320
realize that that's not the ideology of of like the Founding,

590
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:18,599
it's the ideology of the Civil Rights Act and James Yeah,

591
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,039
and people like James Lindsey and the joel Berries of

592
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:25,519
the world, they know that. That's why Joel Berry, you know,

593
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:30,039
when he's debating Dave the Distributist, Dave's distributist asked him,

594
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:34,000
were the Founder's racist? Joel Berry has to say no.

595
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,719
I mean he literally said no. He said he was

596
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,199
making out. He literally said they were like some of

597
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,519
the greatest civil rights uh uh, you know, proponents of

598
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:48,079
all time.

599
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:53,559
Speaker 2: They didn't really want to hold slaves. No, they they

600
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:54,800
had a black best friend.

601
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it just makes no sense. And really, what

602
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:01,480
does what does racist mean? Back then, they realize that

603
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:04,760
there are differences between the races and that they shouldn't be.

604
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:08,519
If there are going to be if there is going

605
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:11,480
to be a different race than the white European Protestant

606
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,480
race in the United States, they're going to have to

607
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:17,559
be subjected. They're going to have to be, you know,

608
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:21,360
under the thumb of a group. And I mean people

609
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,960
even understood that up until even after the war, and

610
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,679
once you got past reconstruction.

611
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:32,559
Speaker 2: The consensus for the founders was, you know, if they

612
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:35,800
cared about it at all, was to ship them to

613
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,679
Liberia or that you know that that type of mechanism

614
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,559
was to you know, we'll solve the slavery problem by

615
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:46,800
shipping all the African slaves back to Africa. Yeah, it

616
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,880
was nowhere near what it is now.

617
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is you know interesting. You know, it's like

618
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,039
now people are like, well, you know what we have

619
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,599
to do is we have to ship blacks back to Africa.

620
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,519
We need to get you know, we need to get

621
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,599
them out of the country. And while I do understand that,

622
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,119
you know, I understand black crime statistics. I get it, man.

623
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,840
And you know, it's if one thing that's really come

624
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,239
to the forefront in the last few months is you know,

625
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:20,840
the fact that more and more people are revealing the

626
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:28,119
fact that they have end fatigue. Yep, you're not You're

627
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:30,840
not getting rid of them. You know, it's like you're

628
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:33,480
you're not you can do things to make I don't

629
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,960
even know if you do things to make them self

630
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,440
deport Yeah, I mean, I mean they're just here and

631
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:41,000
you're going to have to figure out a way to

632
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:43,360
deal with it. And the only real way to deal

633
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,880
with that is you have to have yeah, segregate well,

634
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,760
I mean yeah.

635
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: And either probably informal like informal segregating.

636
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:58,199
Speaker 1: And also you have to have the I think you

637
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,960
have to have the attitude that a lot of them

638
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:05,559
are children and they need to be treated as such. Yeah,

639
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,320
and that has to be openly accepted in the culture.

640
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you can have a program that

641
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:18,559
turns them all into Clarence Thomas, I mean, that's a

642
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:24,119
solution too. But again, like the racialists, rather just kill them,

643
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,159
and I don't I don't really like that.

644
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:35,119
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there are some who've proven that they

645
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,519
cannot exist in society.

646
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 2: And yes, it would it would be.

647
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: Better if they were like sent to Seacot or something

648
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:44,079
like that, you know, if.

649
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: Yes, that has to be part of that program. I

650
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,079
mean it's it's it's almost a eugenic.

651
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:54,559
Speaker 1: Problem, yes, yea. And there's no there's really no way

652
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:57,000
of getting around it at this time. There's no way

653
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,360
of getting past it. So yeah, you have so to

654
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:10,159
circle back. Like your girl used to say, we the

655
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,039
issue is it always goes back to will And you know,

656
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,320
I've never been I've I've been one of these people

657
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,719
who throughout the whole run last year, I was noticing things,

658
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,719
and I was reporting on things, and I was saying,

659
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,880
this could actually be better for our guys. I've and

660
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,599
I don't think the whole like time, and you know,

661
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:37,800
maybe people can go back and try to find my

662
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,000
words when I said this. I don't think I was

663
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:44,440
ever saying that, you know, we're trying to save the government.

664
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:48,119
I think we were trying to make things better for

665
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,440
our people. And if the PayPal mafia turns out to

666
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:56,320
be you know, this whole thing about palans here and

667
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,599
you know they are pro Israel, well then fuck them.

668
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,199
But I still come back to the fact that you know,

669
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:07,159
there are still people out there who will say, you know,

670
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:11,239
they really wish Kamala would have one, to which you know,

671
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,000
I say, I think.

672
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 2: You're how does that solve the Palenteer problem? We do?

673
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:20,199
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, well, look who would have control

674
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,199
of talent here. I mean, they would be doing business

675
00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:27,320
with the government still they could, They're just selling it

676
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,440
in a different way.

677
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: The people that are saying maybe that would be better

678
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,679
if Kamala had one are the same people that view

679
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,199
Palenteer and the PayPal mafia as the major threat ahead

680
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:45,000
of everything else. So to me, like, I know the

681
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:48,760
type of person you're talking about, and uh, that's I

682
00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:51,920
don't know. I think they need to uh, I think

683
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,079
they need to percolate a little longer before they start

684
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,639
talking about politics.

685
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, these are also the same people that leave

686
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,719
if they just get their guy elected president that that

687
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,039
you know, he can change everything. He'll have the will,

688
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,719
he'll have the will to change everything. Well, I mean,

689
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,760
we don't want to save this government. No, that's not.

690
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,360
Our goal is not to save this government. And as

691
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,480
many you know, as many boomer brained, and that doesn't

692
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:32,199
mean that they have to be, you know, part of

693
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:37,360
the boomer generation. I'm saying boomer brained as they've bought

694
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,760
into the whole boomer Boomer truth regime as as AA

695
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,960
put it. I like that. I like that terminology a lot. Then,

696
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,519
you know, basically you're saying that you agree with them.

697
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,000
It's just that you agree with them that we need

698
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:59,360
this government. It's just the government's going to be. You

699
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,239
can make the govern a lot better if it's you,

700
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:04,480
Like you're going to go in there and you're going

701
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,719
to fire like two point two, Like I said, you know,

702
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,360
Trump needed to go in there on the first day

703
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,199
and fire two point two million people, you know, like

704
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,840
literally like two point two million people. I added, like

705
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:18,880
the whole you know, the departments and everything listed, and

706
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,519
it's like, yeah, you just need to get rid of

707
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,960
all this. You know, the State Department is now Trump

708
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,480
and two advisors on zoom or you know, a stream

709
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:32,159
yard talking to you know, private you know, leaders of

710
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:35,960
other countries around the world. You don't need, you don't

711
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,320
need all of these, you know, the managerial state. How

712
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,159
do you destroy the managerial state? Well, I mean most

713
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:46,320
people don't even know what the managerial state is, So

714
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,320
how do you people most people don't know that. You know,

715
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,360
a lot of these people are so naive. Is to

716
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,159
believe that there won't be somebody in the inner circle

717
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:59,880
ready to put a knife in your back or yeah,

718
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:02,920
or you know, more realistically, a bullet in your brain.

719
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, as as we've seen.

720
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean the only way that I see

721
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:21,679
see out of this is groups of basically building what

722
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,920
comes next. And yeah, I think that's always what it's

723
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,320
been because this is a dying system. The reason the

724
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,800
system doesn't work anymore is it can't work no one

725
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:38,360
can make it work. It's obsolete, it's you can't. No one,

726
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:42,800
no one in history, in the history of this world,

727
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,480
could govern three hundred and twenty five million people.

728
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the tech bros know that. I

729
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,480
think we know that, the tech bros know that, and

730
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:56,559
even I mean even some of the libertarians know that.

731
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,320
But that's just a matter.

732
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: I just don't want to live. I don't want to

733
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,000
live in the society they want to build.

734
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. I don't want to live in the

735
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,760
Techboro society either.

736
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: No, no, And so so Palin's here, do you think

737
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,360
you know what I said on the on the stream

738
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,880
last night is what what a lot of people on

739
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,880
on this side of the Great divide As as the

740
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,039
man would call it, you know, would worry about. Is

741
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,679
that the fact that right now they're going after, you know,

742
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,719
ship Libs and progressives and commies on campuses and everywhere

743
00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:46,639
who are being accused of anti Semitism. Some of them

744
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:49,800
may be literal anti Semits, some of them just maye

745
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,719
want Israel to stop doing what they're doing.

746
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm interested in your thoughts on that, is,

747
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,599
is there a utility argument to that? You know, let

748
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:03,320
them go after anti Semitism as long as it harms

749
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,920
people we hate.

750
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:09,599
Speaker 1: Well, it's that whole thing of Okay, So when when

751
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:12,480
do they come for us? Yeah?

752
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they.

753
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the question. Yeah, I mean, I

754
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:19,480
don't know if you saw. There was a zero Hedge

755
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:24,119
article that was this, I think it was released yesterday. Yeah,

756
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:27,360
it was yesterday. It was dated at the fifth and

757
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:33,840
basically said that Trump had fired three of the biggest

758
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:38,559
Zionists in the administration. I'll pull up the article real quick.

759
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,639
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I know, Mike Waltz is out. And then

760
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:48,320
I saw that, uh, this is somebody in is it

761
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,360
a Treasury or the SEC or something.

762
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: So says here. This is from zero Head yesterday via

763
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,199
the Cradle between May in early June and what insiders

764
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,400
call an America First Course correction. The US President Trump

765
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,199
has been removing key pro Israel hardliners from his foreign

766
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,519
policy team. He has reported targeting individuals known for their

767
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:17,159
militaristic views on Iran and deep alignment with Israeli policy,

768
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,159
often in ways critics say undercut broader US strategicals. Such

769
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:28,079
individuals include National Security Council officials Eric Traeger, Merev Sarin,

770
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:34,239
and Morgan Ordigus. The purge comes after Trump's visit to

771
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:39,159
Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Qatar in May, a trip

772
00:50:39,199 --> 00:50:45,480
that notably bypassed Israel. So you know, according to sources

773
00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:48,159
familiar with the changes to President is looking to replace

774
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:52,360
outgoing officials with voices and this is going to make

775
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,480
some people just completely spurg out, But I'll say it anyway,

776
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,679
with voices more aligned with Vice President jd Vance's anti

777
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,639
interventionist stance, in an effort to reassert White House control

778
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:08,079
over West Asia policy and curbs curb Israel's internal influence

779
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:12,519
on US decision making. Former National Security Advisor Mike Waltz

780
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:15,159
was among the first to be pushed out after reports

781
00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:18,599
that he had coordinated with Israeli Prime Minister Berenjamin Enya,

782
00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:21,639
who want a potential preemptive strike against Iran without the

783
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:23,280
approval of the United States.

784
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 2: So they will never they will never let us extricate

785
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,679
ourselves from the Middle East. We want to pivot to

786
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,519
China so bad, but they will never let us go.

787
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: Well, it's so, I mean the pivot to China. I

788
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,519
don't want war with China, obviously, I mean I don't.

789
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,679
I don't want war with anybody unless you know they're

790
00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:51,760
they have You absolutely have to. But you know, China

791
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:59,639
controls so much of manufacturing, even for the smallest little items.

792
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,679
We can build bombs with, well, you can't build planes with.

793
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:09,039
I mean, that's that has to come home. And you know,

794
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,760
you just don't you know, you don't know what to,

795
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:15,760
you don't know how they're going to do it. You

796
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,599
don't know. Yeah, I mean, here's a way it has

797
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:23,159
to happen. And people don't want to hear this. You

798
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:25,440
have to do what the Austrian painter did. You have

799
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,800
to start nationalizing things. You have to you have to

800
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,119
open you have to build factories that are national factories.

801
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:33,679
And here this is where we're going to build. It's

802
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:36,360
what Russia, it's why Russia can be in this war

803
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,039
and grind down Ukraine. The way they are is they

804
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:41,079
make their own stuff.

805
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:45,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no there's no profit and loss statement that

806
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:46,599
you have to worry about.

807
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: A country that doesn't manufacture their own military equipment. I mean,

808
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:53,840
and fully I'm talking about fully.

809
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:57,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, on paper, we do is.

810
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: A slave to another country? Is a slave to ever

811
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,559
does one of the things, Yeah, one of the things

812
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:09,280
in this article is said is mayor of Saran's removal

813
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:14,159
drew particular attention given her well known ties to Israel's military.

814
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,639
Before her role as National National Security what is that

815
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:27,320
thing in the National Security Council, she had worked with

816
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:30,360
Israeli's Ministry of Defense and was closely linked to the

817
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,119
Foundation for Defensive Democracies FDD, a Washington think tank known

818
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:38,119
for its hardline stance in Iran and vocal support for

819
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,880
Israeli military campaigns in Lebanon. We literally have, I mean,

820
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,000
we have spot. How do you think that this How

821
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:50,400
do you think this government gets fixed? How does anybody

822
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,519
think that this gets fixed? You think she's it? You

823
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:55,440
think you get rid of all these people that there

824
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,000
aren't people there who they don't know, who aren't working

825
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:01,400
behind the scenes, who aren't as vocal, who didn't work,

826
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,440
who aren't you know, they don't have pictures of fucking

827
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,039
you know that they don't have pictures of like all

828
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:10,119
of these people fucking kids or watching kitty porn or

829
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:13,800
just watching porn. For some some people, I mean, it's

830
00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:20,320
you can't fix this. I just don't. I don't get

831
00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:24,320
it's so funny that you the same people who will

832
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,079
say No, the United States has to keep going the

833
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:31,599
way it is right now. You know. It's like camer

834
00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:35,000
McGregor said something the other day that Stormy has been saying.

835
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,360
He's saying, really, when it comes down to it, the

836
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,079
United this country then, not the country, but the nation

837
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,280
was growing and it got stunted and it got stopped,

838
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:52,840
and it basically hasn't been able to become the polus

839
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,440
that it needs, that it was meant to be. But

840
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,880
you can actually look at this country. You're still being

841
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,559
young when you look at like empires in the past,

842
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:09,199
like we can actually not the government, but the nation itself,

843
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,920
the people, the polity can actually keep going and can

844
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,440
improve and can flourish, and we can have a high

845
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:20,800
culture again.

846
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,639
Speaker 2: A portion of us can.

847
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:25,559
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the whole point.

848
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's that will eventually happen.

849
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,400
There needs to be a categorical attitude shift in these

850
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:39,960
up and coming generation, people younger than you and I,

851
00:55:40,039 --> 00:55:45,960
even in how they how they view their role as citizens,

852
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:51,760
as members of their community. And like you said, that

853
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,519
that is extracted from the past. It's as forgotten as

854
00:55:56,519 --> 00:56:00,519
it is. Uh. People need to people, the people that

855
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,880
do put in the effort to remember it and to

856
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,960
emulate it. Are I think you've mentioned this before, going

857
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,880
to be like a parallel society.

858
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: Well, it has to be, because this Washington isn't going

859
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,000
to die. You know, the government isn't going to die.

860
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:25,280
It'll weaken, it'll transform, it'll but it's not going to

861
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,039
transform into anything good. No, because I mean, and like

862
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:35,400
I said again, you cannot have a central government for

863
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,920
three hundred and fifty million people. It's it's what Sam

864
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,239
Francis talked about in Leviathan and its Enemies, the revolution

865
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,360
of mass and scale. You you cannot scale it. It

866
00:56:48,519 --> 00:56:52,599
just can't scale. It's impossible. Anybody who thinks that it

867
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:54,639
is possible is suffering from hubris.

868
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,119
Speaker 2: Can you even have a founding mythos for three hundred

869
00:56:59,159 --> 00:57:00,000
and fifty million people?

870
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: How?

871
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: How?

872
00:57:02,639 --> 00:57:10,599
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, it's you know, I don't

873
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:17,480
really I don't really try to hold on to the

874
00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:19,880
past at all. I mean, I know where, I know

875
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,159
where I came from, and I know that the flag,

876
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,039
the flag behind this has Spanish colors in it, but

877
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:30,960
that's the flag of Alabama. That's the Saint Andrew's Cross.

878
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:30,639
Speaker 2: You know.

879
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: The only reason, Yeah, the only reason I do that

880
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:39,360
is because I realized that, you know, that flag is

881
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,960
the flag that is flown outside of every government building

882
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:48,519
is a government flag. And I have no problem with it,

883
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,159
but I have a problem with what it's become.

884
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

885
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,719
Speaker 1: You know, it meant something at one point, especially when

886
00:57:54,719 --> 00:57:59,159
it had a lot of fewer stars on it. Yeah,

887
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,239
it meant something. And I just, you know, was like,

888
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:06,840
all right, until we can figure out what this is,

889
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,079
I'm gonna fly my own flag. Yeah.

890
00:58:10,119 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: And you're yeah, your family means something, your neighbors mean something,

891
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,840
your town might mean something. But uh, you know, it's

892
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:26,239
at the further the further that concentric circle expands, uh,

893
00:58:26,679 --> 00:58:31,039
the less it means. Yeah, and people, and the people

894
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:34,360
who who remember that are going to be the ones

895
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,000
that succeed.

896
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean, I consider myself to be a

897
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,119
part of the nation. I consider myself to be a

898
00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:45,840
part of I consider myself to be grafted into the

899
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,480
founding stock of the nation. And I've had people from

900
00:58:48,519 --> 00:58:51,000
the founding stock say I that they consider that too,

901
00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:54,760
They consider that I've done that that you know that

902
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,639
I you know, I have no place else to go.

903
00:58:56,679 --> 00:58:58,760
Where the fuck am I going to go? I've tried

904
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,000
to live in other countries, always come back here. Why.

905
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,679
This is where I'm this is where I'm from, This

906
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,119
is I mean, I don't know anything else. I don't

907
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:11,480
know how to be anything other than an American. Yeah,

908
00:59:11,559 --> 00:59:17,559
I just I don't. I've tried, and yeah, I mean

909
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:26,519
when you until this can get until we can figure

910
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:28,960
out the way forward. And I mean I think the

911
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:34,880
way forward is smaller groups and it really changing the

912
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:42,039
way people looking to change the way people think. Have

913
00:59:42,159 --> 00:59:46,599
a have a feeling of inclusiveness in that group. That

914
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:49,960
that's yeah, that that's you're a part of this group.

915
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:54,559
Speaker 2: You and an appreciation for a common heritage.

916
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it almost seems at this point like

917
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:03,960
we're are looking to the past of what this nation

918
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:08,920
was at one point and we're taking the trying to

919
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,920
bring the best parts of that and understanding that there

920
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,480
are certain parts of that just don't work anymore because

921
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:21,679
of because of technology. How things have changed, how people think,

922
01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:27,400
how people have even evolved through the technology, through the

923
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:32,719
through the technological revolution, and the technological revolution keeps going.

924
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:37,159
But you take things from the past, and you take

925
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:40,119
the best things from the past and you apply it

926
01:00:40,199 --> 01:00:45,800
and you bring it forward and you build something new basically,

927
01:00:46,239 --> 01:00:51,599
but the new thing is built on the best parts

928
01:00:51,639 --> 01:00:54,440
of where we used, of what we used to be

929
01:00:54,679 --> 01:00:58,800
and what we used to understand we were. If that

930
01:00:58,880 --> 01:00:59,360
makes sense.

931
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess you know the inevitable part of

932
01:01:04,119 --> 01:01:09,679
that is to expect and be be very forceful when

933
01:01:10,039 --> 01:01:14,239
when people who's who has who have a vested interest

934
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,199
in making sure that that doesn't happen. Uh, realize what

935
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:20,440
you're doing and realize that you're being successful.

936
01:01:21,239 --> 01:01:27,559
Speaker 1: Sure, and you're you know, that's why planning is important,

937
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:36,119
but you also you know, it's a fine line to

938
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:41,800
walk in that I want things to get cheaper and

939
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,599
I want you know, I want money to I want

940
01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:49,559
money to mean more. I know the bitcoin bitcoin bros

941
01:01:49,559 --> 01:01:51,639
Are like, oh, you know, we just need bitcoin and

942
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:57,760
everything like that. Okay, I mean you're going to need

943
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,639
someone in power with the will to make that happen.

944
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:04,880
I don't know that. I don't know who that is.

945
01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:09,760
So yeah, in the meantime, I want my I want

946
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,639
my people to thrive, and so that means I want

947
01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:16,159
the money to be I want the money to be

948
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,199
stronger and worth more. But I also understand that at

949
01:02:20,199 --> 01:02:22,760
the same time, I want this government to go away,

950
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:30,039
and in that there's a decha, you know, there's a

951
01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:35,320
deca Well, there's a contradiction there. If the money get

952
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,360
if the money gets better and gets stronger, then you know,

953
01:02:40,159 --> 01:02:42,800
the government can get a little more and get more

954
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,639
power and get back maybe get back on its feet.

955
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,719
But you know, when it comes to I just I

956
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:55,960
don't think that it understanding that it can't scale. It's bound,

957
01:02:56,039 --> 01:02:57,000
it's bound to fail.

958
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,679
Speaker 2: You know, the medium of exchange in the store of value.

959
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,800
I mean that's to me, that's always been secondary. Yes,

960
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:12,039
it's something that you should buy bitcoin, sure, but that's uh,

961
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,719
that's one minute out of your day. And then what

962
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,599
are you doing for the rest? You know, what are

963
01:03:18,599 --> 01:03:24,880
you prioritizing? That's I I love I love my my

964
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,760
bitcoin bros that I talked to, but uh, you know there,

965
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,960
I just think that they're missing the forest for the trees.

966
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I consider bitcoin the bitcoin guys who just

967
01:03:35,639 --> 01:03:38,280
type over and over again on Twitter. Bitcoin solves this

968
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,679
to be just as spurgy and retarded as the ones

969
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:46,159
who if somebody they someone disagrees with them, they just

970
01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:46,800
call them a jew.

971
01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the dip, by.

972
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: The dip by the dip, by the tip. It's like,

973
01:03:54,639 --> 01:03:58,119
just how about how about you just buy yeah, if

974
01:03:58,119 --> 01:04:00,320
you believe in it, so, if you believe it so

975
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:06,480
much by yeah, so Palenteer.

976
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:14,719
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, yeah, Palenteer has been doing their thing

977
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:21,320
for a while. And uh, you know, I'm looking at

978
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:27,079
my notes right now. Let's see. I mean I was

979
01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:30,480
talking about, oh, you know what, so part of the

980
01:04:30,679 --> 01:04:36,079
big beautiful bill is a moratorium on states regulating AI

981
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:41,599
for ten years, bringing it back to Pallenteer getting all

982
01:04:41,639 --> 01:04:45,239
this money for AI and machine learning and integration with

983
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:54,039
surveillance and immigration enforcement hardware. Combine that with the moratorium

984
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:57,320
on nobody's allowed to regulate AI for ten years except

985
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,800
for the FEDS. What that tells me is that this

986
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:06,400
current administration is supremely confident in the next election.

987
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:14,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, well here's I guess

988
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:19,960
the problem with that is is what are they doing

989
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:25,400
on the state level to make sure the elections can't

990
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,239
be stolen again?

991
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,679
Speaker 2: On the state level, I mean, I guess, like anything else,

992
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:32,960
it depends on the state. But yeah, I can tell

993
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:38,599
you that my state is everything's fine. The elections are

994
01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:42,519
certified relatively quickly, and I can guarantee you that it's

995
01:05:42,519 --> 01:05:49,239
going to be about eighty twenty ds and ours. Yeah, well,

996
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,360
I mean it's more like sixty forty.

997
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,039
Speaker 1: But you know, the thing is is that you know,

998
01:05:56,159 --> 01:06:04,000
like I think Desansus redistricted and reconfigured Florida in such

999
01:06:04,039 --> 01:06:07,239
a way, jerry mandered it in such a way that

1000
01:06:07,639 --> 01:06:10,599
it's almost impossible for a Democrat to win the governorship now,

1001
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,159
or at least that's the way he's done it. Until

1002
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:19,880
you know, the next crackhead gets elected in Florida, because

1003
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,559
Florida can be stupid. Florida man, Florida man.

1004
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:29,639
Speaker 2: Is very real, sometimes holds elected office.

1005
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,639
Speaker 1: But when you but when but when you know, you

1006
01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:39,280
look around and the states are in charge of their

1007
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,880
own elections, then that's that, you know, that's a problem.

1008
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:50,000
You know, I mean Pennsylvania. Yeah, one of the things

1009
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:54,079
that is because five years ago, oh, I mean like

1010
01:06:54,119 --> 01:06:57,320
five months ago or six months ago, there was an

1011
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,960
election and one of the things you know, we were

1012
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,880
saying about Pennsylvania was one of the reasons why I

1013
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,360
didn't think they would turn on the voting machine, you know,

1014
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,000
turn on the cheating machines to steal the election. Was

1015
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:15,000
that people like Joshapiro want to run for president in

1016
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:18,519
twenty twenty eight, and if Kamala Harris would have won,

1017
01:07:18,639 --> 01:07:21,039
that means she would have pretty much just been default

1018
01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:26,519
twenty you know, twenty twenty eight candidate. You know, some

1019
01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:29,559
people will tell you that the reason they weren't turned

1020
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:32,440
on is because they want Trump to be president, because

1021
01:07:33,519 --> 01:07:35,639
you know Trump will is going to oversee the downfall

1022
01:07:35,679 --> 01:07:39,199
of the country, or the Jews planned all this and

1023
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:46,440
every single you know that this was all the Jews.

1024
01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:44,679
Speaker 2: But.

1025
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: We still have to people. I think people assume right

1026
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:56,480
now that if Trump gets enough accomplished over the next

1027
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,360
four years to make his base happy, that jd evans

1028
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,679
will just be in twenty twenty eight, twenty thirty two.

1029
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,000
And I always go I always go back to the

1030
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:13,320
voting machines, and it's like, well, if they turn on

1031
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,439
the chieving machines again, they'd be pretty easy to make

1032
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:17,920
sure that that doesn't happen.

1033
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 2: So well, there's not only electoral implications, but there's also

1034
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,680
just you know, no regulation on AI in general other

1035
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:35,960
than the I should say the FED federal regulation supersedes

1036
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,720
the state for at least ten years. What that tells

1037
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,560
me is that they want to build data centers and

1038
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,239
they don't want zoning laws getting in the way, which

1039
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:48,159
I think Thomas Massey mentioned that as like a critique.

1040
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:51,800
I don't really care about that, but also that in

1041
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,359
the context of immigration enforcement, they do not want the

1042
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,840
states to pull the sanctuary city bullshit and be able

1043
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:07,479
to put in any type of non compliance on the

1044
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,159
state level.

1045
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,279
Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that from what I understand

1046
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:17,920
listening to, you know, some podcasts on AI and listening

1047
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,399
to some of the AI people talk, is that AI

1048
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,239
is going to scale up to the point where the

1049
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:27,439
power grid's not going to be able to handle it anymore.

1050
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,000
So we're also going to have to deal with the

1051
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:33,000
fact that they're talking about nuclear power, needing nuclear power

1052
01:09:33,039 --> 01:09:33,640
to run.

1053
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: These substations, nuclear substations for individual facilities.

1054
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's interesting. That also puts to me that

1055
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,560
that's also something that will be handled at the federal level.

1056
01:09:52,119 --> 01:09:55,800
That won't be it won't allow the states to get

1057
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,920
involved in that. So does that lead to if you're

1058
01:10:01,079 --> 01:10:06,439
doing that for AI, and does that lead to them

1059
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,680
federalizing more and more and more at the state level.

1060
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. You know, what will the

1061
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:20,199
landscape look like in terms of you know, I guess

1062
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,520
funding at the state level. I mean, that completely circumvents

1063
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,319
any need for the state to ask for funds if

1064
01:10:27,359 --> 01:10:33,319
it's all in the FEDS. Man. Yeah, yeah, that's a

1065
01:10:33,359 --> 01:10:36,720
lot to chew on. And I don't know, I don't

1066
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,880
really know how I feel about that, because I would

1067
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,760
like to not have a data center down the street

1068
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,199
from me, But at the same time, I know it's

1069
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:46,439
probably gonna happen anyways.

1070
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of hard to not see that the

1071
01:10:51,039 --> 01:10:58,720
future where the future is going if there isn't some

1072
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:05,000
kind of state revolt, revolt at the state level again

1073
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,840
against you know, the FEDS doing these things. And the

1074
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,159
crazy thing about it is is that, you know, this

1075
01:11:12,359 --> 01:11:14,960
is one of the things that you could you could

1076
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,880
say one of the reasons people would want Trump in

1077
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,920
there is is that if the states started to rebel,

1078
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,039
even red states, Trump's space is so die hard that

1079
01:11:27,079 --> 01:11:30,479
they would, you know, call the they would call those

1080
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,439
states traders, and.

1081
01:11:32,399 --> 01:11:35,239
Speaker 2: They would legitimize the reaction.

1082
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why politics works, you know. It's so

1083
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:44,279
I hate having to say this to people, and I

1084
01:11:44,359 --> 01:11:48,000
hate having to remind people of this because you know,

1085
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:50,880
once you start talking, once you start talking about how

1086
01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:55,119
how the real way politics works, people, you know, they

1087
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:57,880
immediately start to jump to terms like cope and stuff

1088
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:58,279
like that.

1089
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 2: But is.

1090
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: The average person even you know, especially like the average

1091
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,600
and non And we love our nons, don't we.

1092
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: Of course.

1093
01:12:16,359 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: A lot of them don't. Just don't know how things

1094
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,079
work and how things operate. There are a lot of

1095
01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:24,960
nons out there who no more than me. But that's

1096
01:12:25,359 --> 01:12:27,439
I mean, I'm not going to say a lot, there are.

1097
01:12:27,319 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 2: Some, but give yourself some credit.

1098
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I get to people tell me stuff

1099
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,119
in the background, so yeah, you know, tell me stuff

1100
01:12:38,119 --> 01:12:41,760
that's happening in the background, and then it happens. But

1101
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,479
and I don't go public with it because I want

1102
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:50,279
people to keep telling me stuff in the background, because

1103
01:12:50,319 --> 01:12:53,680
that's the way politics works. You know, just to use

1104
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,800
an example of how politics works. But you know, the

1105
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,319
way politics works is is that you One of the

1106
01:13:00,359 --> 01:13:04,840
ways it works is that you get people to someone

1107
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,960
gets elected, you see that they have a rabid base,

1108
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,560
and then you do everything you possibly can to suck

1109
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,000
up to that person in power so that you can

1110
01:13:17,079 --> 01:13:21,439
get something done that normally people would be like, I

1111
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,840
don't know about that. I don't know about that. I

1112
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,319
don't know whether it's anti Semitism laws, whether it's federalizing

1113
01:13:30,119 --> 01:13:35,920
you know, ai AI data centers, the power that's going

1114
01:13:36,039 --> 01:13:41,279
to take to control it, federalizing a police force to

1115
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,880
for mass deportations, things like that, things that you know,

1116
01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:49,760
historically a lot of Americans would have been like, it

1117
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,399
seems like an overreach, but because it is. And I'm

1118
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,520
not saying that any of these things are bad, mind you,

1119
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,159
I'm not. I don't even have a I'm just bringing

1120
01:13:58,239 --> 01:14:00,439
up things that are that I'm thinking off the top

1121
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,960
of my head that I think are very important. But

1122
01:14:04,039 --> 01:14:06,359
I really don't know if I have a position. I

1123
01:14:06,399 --> 01:14:10,560
haven't really formed a position on them yet. But yeah,

1124
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,479
I mean, if you have someone with a strong base

1125
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,159
and you can get them to do things that normally

1126
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,960
you know that president wouldn't do, and especially like a

1127
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,279
quote unquote Republican president, then you know, that's pretty pretty

1128
01:14:25,359 --> 01:14:31,359
damn intelligent, pretty smart. But that's politics, and you know,

1129
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:37,439
I think that a lot of things can be We

1130
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:43,840
live in an age where an average person on Twitter

1131
01:14:44,279 --> 01:14:48,600
who has a decent size following can get retweeted by

1132
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:53,880
bigger accounts, and it can whatever they're talking about can

1133
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,600
make its way to the ears of power and actually

1134
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:03,199
have an effect. But I have a tendency to believe

1135
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:09,560
that those changes won't happen unless they may have already

1136
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:14,199
been considered. Yep, you know that. I don't think you're

1137
01:15:14,199 --> 01:15:18,760
going to change. You know, you're not going to you know,

1138
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:23,199
this pivot to Asia that they want so bad. At

1139
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:27,079
this point. I don't think there's anything that in a

1140
01:15:27,239 --> 01:15:32,479
noon or someone on Twitter can do to prevent that.

1141
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,239
People in power can prevent it by you know, false

1142
01:15:37,279 --> 01:15:41,840
flagging and starting a war with Iran or something like that.

1143
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,560
But I think, you know, I think the Anon can

1144
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,800
do things, or the person on Twitter can do things

1145
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:57,039
that can actually cause change, cause the government to act.

1146
01:15:57,079 --> 01:16:00,039
But I don't think it's going to be something that

1147
01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:05,399
they they'll do that will go against what, you know,

1148
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,600
what was already planned in some way, shape or form.

1149
01:16:08,119 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, you know, it's just legitimizing things that they

1150
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:17,920
already we're already on the docket to begin with, within

1151
01:16:18,279 --> 01:16:23,239
within that probability cone that existed prior you know, I.

1152
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,239
Speaker 1: Was that cone or Cohen.

1153
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 2: Well, uh, the pivot to Asia. Yeah, it might be con.

1154
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: That was good. Well, I know you, I know you

1155
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:48,119
have a heart out, so let's uh, let's check out. Oh.

1156
01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:51,399
I saw somewhere that there was like a new boys

1157
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:55,720
Town with Aaron episode, but you're actually like going to change.

1158
01:16:56,039 --> 01:16:58,640
It's not gonna be Boys Town with Aaron episode. And

1159
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,359
then I listened to it and I'm like, that's not

1160
01:17:00,399 --> 01:17:04,720
a Boystown with Aaron episode, and he's he's just fooling

1161
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:05,960
us and he's lying again.

1162
01:17:07,239 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: No, I I did have to retire that program. I

1163
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:16,399
set out to fundamentally change podcasting, and after four episodes,

1164
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,399
I think I achieved my goal. I uh, the news

1165
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,640
is dead. T L no longer does the news anymore.

1166
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:23,960
And that's really all I wanted.

1167
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: That's just insane. How the bird is like the number

1168
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,319
one news man in America? How well, how can you

1169
01:17:34,359 --> 01:17:34,640
do that?

1170
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,319
Speaker 2: Oh it's it's it's easy. I just uh, you know, hustle,

1171
01:17:40,399 --> 01:17:41,960
loyalty in respect.

1172
01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: All right, man, promote what you want. We'll end it.

1173
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. You can. Uh. You can find me at uh

1174
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:59,479
a underscore Underscore returns UH on x dot com and

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you can see me or hear me every Wednesday on

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Timeline Earth.

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Speaker 1: That every Wednesday gets me every time.

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Speaker 2: Every single Wednesday, man without fail.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, thank you, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on