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<v Speaker 1>All right, if you want to catch a hundred plus

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<v Speaker 1>coyotes in a year trapping, this is your episode. Colt

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<v Speaker 1>with Coyote Academy is on right now. Hey, I'm kJ,

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated lifelong hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got an interest in all things hunting, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the right spot. Whether chasing quail across the plains

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<v Speaker 1>of Oklahoma or in pursuit of belk in the back

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<v Speaker 1>country of British Columbia, you'll always find me on the hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in all you gun talk hunters. I'm your host, kJ,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what we're We're going to close out

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<v Speaker 1>this year in style, you know. So I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm cruising the interwebs like you do on the socials,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess the powers that be really came through

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess I had said coyote hunting or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sick of coyotes, something to that nature, because a channel

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<v Speaker 1>popped up on my Facebook feed. Never seen this guy before,

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<v Speaker 1>never have talked to him, but the videos he's putting

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<v Speaker 1>out got me intrigued. I mean it was like hook

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<v Speaker 1>line and Sinker. So hang on to your hats because

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<v Speaker 1>this one's gonna be a fun one. This one is

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by Ruger range Ready Studios, Silencer Central,

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<v Speaker 1>Savage RCBS, and Hodgeden Powders. With me today is Colt.

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<v Speaker 1>Colt owns Coyote Academy, and I'm gonna let him tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about it. But this is the channel that popped

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<v Speaker 1>up in my feed and I had to get a

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<v Speaker 1>hold of him because one, his videos are ridiculous. How

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<v Speaker 1>many coyotes he is able to trap and maintain like

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<v Speaker 1>that pace is unbelievable. Cult. Welcome on, Hey, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>having me kJ.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. I okay, let's get a little bit of your

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<v Speaker 1>background and then let's dive into Coyote Academy and how

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<v Speaker 1>this Coyote Academy came to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. Growing up, I grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of a rural setting, you know, middle class,

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<v Speaker 2>lower middle class, and if you lived where I lived,

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<v Speaker 2>you worked at a sawmill or you're a farmer and

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<v Speaker 2>not a big farmer, but you know, just made ends meet.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went through high school and wanted I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be stuck here in the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the same whirlpool, and went and got a college degree

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<v Speaker 2>and then went I did seven years and became a

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<v Speaker 2>physician assistant and I do orthopedics now, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>also run an urgent care part time, so I have

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<v Speaker 2>a full time man a part time job, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I run Coyote Academy. I was in, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>end to the end of my schooling and I had

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<v Speaker 2>always trapped growing up. I actually had a really good

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<v Speaker 2>mentor that lived probably in my and a half of

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<v Speaker 2>my house, and he came up and you know, asked

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<v Speaker 2>me if I wanted to go trapping, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was hooked, you know. So it's like you guys getting

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<v Speaker 2>buck fever or something. I just you know, seeing that

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<v Speaker 2>and knowing you did it and you got that animal

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<v Speaker 2>to get so close, and it's just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that was That's my adrenaline, that's my drug, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>and not saying I have to go out and you

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<v Speaker 2>know kill or dispatch hundreds and hundreds of animals. But

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a need for that, then by all means,

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<v Speaker 2>use use the tool that you have. So I finished

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<v Speaker 2>up my schooling and was able to make a good

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<v Speaker 2>living wage, so I was able to buy an arsenal

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<v Speaker 2>of traps. I bought, you know everything. I bought the

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<v Speaker 2>best equipment because I couldn't when I was younger, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just didn't have I didn't have the means. And

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, everyone says, you know, what's the best

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<v Speaker 2>tip that you can give a new an upcoming trapper,

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<v Speaker 2>new upcoming outdoors, and I say, you know, try to

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<v Speaker 2>become financially stable in whatever you're doing, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trapping is not cheap. It's not cheap. A dozen traps

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get you far. And you know those around three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks. Well, I have twenty dozen traps, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just of one brand. I have other brands with multiple

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<v Speaker 2>so you get thousands of dollars. And then I build

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<v Speaker 2>my own building in twenty four by twenty four building

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<v Speaker 2>to do all of my processing, bait making, lure making,

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<v Speaker 2>collect getting urine and getting it you know, bottled up

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<v Speaker 2>so that it's perfect. I've actually even been working on

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<v Speaker 2>a deer scent, so I'm going to try and come up.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you can find all that on my website,

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<v Speaker 2>like you mentioned. And the coyote bug really came in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen, and that's when I started seeing all these

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<v Speaker 2>guys bought videos didn't have I don't. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>good professional education, but no formal trapping education. Didn't go

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<v Speaker 2>to any There's a lot of trapping schools out there.

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<v Speaker 2>The ft A has the Trappers College that's accredited by Purdue,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe. And so I didn't have any formal education.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was more boots on the ground, reading books,

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<v Speaker 2>watching videos VHS's even because they were so old. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know if people remember VHS's now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the thing that has this like tape thing that

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<v Speaker 1>and it goes in and then every once in a

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<v Speaker 1>while you'll jama like peanut butter sandwich in there. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>one of those, yeah, or you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get us unspoiled. So I saw these guys catching big

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<v Speaker 2>numbers of coyotes and and really doing it, and guys

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<v Speaker 2>like up in New York doing it, Guys in Pennsylvania, Maryland,

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<v Speaker 2>down in North Carolina. There's guys that catch a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of predators, and I wanted to be like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do that. I was emulating those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked up to a lot of those guys and

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<v Speaker 2>still do. But I never really heard of anyone catching

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<v Speaker 2>over one hundred coyotes in Ohio, and so I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, and I wanted to do that on

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<v Speaker 2>a consistent measure over a three four year span. So

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<v Speaker 2>over four years, I caught one hundred coyotes in Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much trapping the same areas, building and building on

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<v Speaker 2>to properties and then cutting away from properties. But I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to be really really efficient, got on a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of deer leases, and that you know, just it was

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<v Speaker 2>a win win for everybody. And so I did that

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<v Speaker 2>for four years, and I said, well, man, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to go out of state. I mean, I see all

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<v Speaker 2>these guys being able to do it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just another challenge and very very goal oriented, probably

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<v Speaker 2>like many of your listeners or you know, even you

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<v Speaker 2>and I just one day put the the the pencil

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<v Speaker 2>to the paper and started getting everything figured out how

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<v Speaker 2>much it was going to cost me, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So is I guess I guess in this development,

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<v Speaker 1>is there is there one thing about coyotes other than

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<v Speaker 1>like that differ from you know, your bobcats or your foxes,

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<v Speaker 1>even wolves. Like that drew you to like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of start to focus in on coyotes so.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of a lot of the little

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<v Speaker 2>small farms. Like I said, I worked. I worked on

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of them as a farm hand growing up Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would always have coyotes getting into you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their their when they're caving, or even the after birth

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<v Speaker 2>or just trying to come up and be an opportunistic animal.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was the biggest predator that we also had

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<v Speaker 2>in Ohio that I could legally trap. We cannot legally

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<v Speaker 2>trap bobcats in Ohio, Okay. So far we're the only

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<v Speaker 2>Midwestern state that doesn't allow bobcat trapping. Although yeah, although

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, I took out fourteen bobcats in a

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<v Speaker 2>month in one county of Ohio, so you know I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't I caught them and released them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. When I said, oh, I bet that's a

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous situation. It has so pretty much as a giant

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<v Speaker 1>board and you walk in on them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I use a like a dog warden pole.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, yep, loop it around.

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<v Speaker 2>There kind of like a kind of like you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>like a real naked choke to them. You get under

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<v Speaker 2>their arm pit and around their neck and then just

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<v Speaker 2>put like kind of tightly you don't send it down completely,

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<v Speaker 2>but you you snug it up right, can them push

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<v Speaker 2>them down to the ground, take the trap off, move

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<v Speaker 2>them away. You want to make sure that if you

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<v Speaker 2>ever do release a bobcat or even even like a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger lion, don't have any like don't have your truck

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<v Speaker 2>park there, don't have your cyber side because they will

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<v Speaker 2>run underneath of it and.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sit there.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's sticky situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Learned to learn that lesson the hard way, man.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I mean, so, let's let's dive into a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of Coyote Academy and then I've and then

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<v Speaker 1>once we hit our break, I've got a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an off the wall question about scent lures and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that and how you come up with those. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's tell the viewers. I mean, we're talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Cole from Coyote Academy and he came up with this

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<v Speaker 1>on his own, and and it really is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very affordable to learn how to trap. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to take a lot of time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think one of the things that you stress is it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take your Your success is determined by your

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<v Speaker 1>work ethic. Yeah, and I saw that quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>through your your website, and I really appreciated that because

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't a you know, I'll try this on a

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<v Speaker 1>weekend or something like this. This is something that you're

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<v Speaker 1>helping farmers, you're helping ranchers, You're helping these guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>it takes your whole heart and dedication because they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>the same for you. Right, So talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about the academy.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Kirot Academy is essentially something I had thought about

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the years, and since I didn't have any formal education,

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<v Speaker 2>I learned everything by book by video. So I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I did all that over these you know, say,

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<v Speaker 2>ten fifteen years, why can't I just kind of get

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<v Speaker 2>that segmented up into a course online. It's ten ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 1>A month, I mean, right, That's why I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a phenomenal deal here.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's and the thing is is there's always new

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<v Speaker 2>videos being so every time I learned something or if

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<v Speaker 2>I have a success or failure, yeah I will post that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not afraid to show my failures because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you never you don't really fail unless you quit. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to quit trying to be successful at

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<v Speaker 2>trapping or efficient or or even proficient. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with that being said, you get to see all that

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<v Speaker 2>online and that's pretty much almost real time. Once I

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<v Speaker 2>get the video done, Like once I get it all taken,

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<v Speaker 2>I edit it usually in one one to two nights

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<v Speaker 2>and then try and get it uploaded. So I put

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff on YouTube, but then I cut

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<v Speaker 2>out all the informational some of the the big informational

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<v Speaker 2>pieces and put those on the masterclass side. So with that, though,

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<v Speaker 2>you also get to go to a private forum. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to get on that form and you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to see you know, did Lebron James win the

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<v Speaker 2>scoring record? You're going to get one. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see outdoorsman stuff, you know, topics or even nuisance trapping

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<v Speaker 2>or even guys getting on there be like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a like I had a fellow reach out to

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<v Speaker 2>me in Indiana wanted to pay me, you know, good

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<v Speaker 1>So man, you're talking good gosh, you're talking like catch poles.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're talking about a lot of stuff first aid,

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<v Speaker 1>kid action cameras, drones like stuff that you're you're selling,

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<v Speaker 1>and your lures and all all the stuff like that. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I just sit here and I think about my area

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<v Speaker 1>that I hunt in Oklahoma, and how beneficial Because what please,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you're watching this, if you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>go check out Coyote Academy because I found him through Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I found him through. And it is like

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<v Speaker 1>he has some shorts of reels whatever your Facebook calls him.

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<v Speaker 1>But like you hit like like there'd be a shot

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<v Speaker 1>of you walking up to you know, your traps, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got like six or seven coyotes all at once. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how did like how is that possible?

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<v Speaker 2>You got to find the grocery store man?

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently you're you're very good at finding grocery stores.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not those little small dollar generals. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you're you're finding the super centers. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>really is impressive. And how how often does that happen

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<v Speaker 1>for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? So, Like I went out and I trap Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>And when I go out of state, that's where I trap.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone always goes to Kansas and they go to like

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodge City and Garden City. But I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>go out, so I did. All the laws changed really

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<v Speaker 2>for Oklahoma when it comes to trapping. You used to

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<v Speaker 2>to do that anymore unless the landowner requests it. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're on private if you're on private ground, trapping

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to put those signs out anymore, and

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<v Speaker 2>you used to only be able to bring like fifty

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<v Speaker 2>traps to so But anyways, the segue back to what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying. I went out I got to Oklahoma, and

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<v Speaker 2>average around twenty Last year I average we averaged twenty kyots.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this year I went solo and did twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one coyotes a day. So twenty one coyotes a day, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I did one hundred and four coyotes in

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<v Speaker 1>The landowners up there have to love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they I'll tell you what you know. That's they say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the Bible belt. Is it correct? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep? Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Those those folks out there are so generous and nice

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<v Speaker 2>and good people. Yeah, I mean, it's it's unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're back with Colt from Kyote Academy. Give

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<v Speaker 1>him a look Kyote dash Academy dot com. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>trapper man this I'm telling you, Colt's got it going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Just check his stuff out. I'm enamored here because I

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<v Speaker 1>hate coyotes.

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>They decimate our fond populations. They're hell on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ranchers and stuff like that. So they've got to be controlled.

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<v Speaker 1>And Colt's definitely the guy pushing the pushing the envelope

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Okay, Colt, I'm gonna give you a hard

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<v Speaker 1>one here, and now you be honest if you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard this, because or call me out. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't tried it, I want you try it and then

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<v Speaker 1>So I was talking to a trapper out in No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a guide. He wasn't the trapper. So the

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<v Speaker 1>guide tells him maybe he's full of full of crap.

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<v Speaker 1>But he sits there and he says, Okay, here's how

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<v Speaker 1>I catch coyotes. He goes, this is the best lure

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<v Speaker 1>I found. He goes, You're not gonna believe me. But

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<v Speaker 1>what he does is he has this little auto sensor

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<v Speaker 1>that he puts in a hole and he sprays it

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<v Speaker 1>with Chanelle number five. I'm not lying, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>he says, Chanelle number five. And he says, so coyote

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<v Speaker 1>finds that sticks this hole in the nose and then

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<v Speaker 1>the motion sensor goes off, sprints is a little sinide

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<v Speaker 1>in his nostrils, and the he dies is that did

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<v Speaker 1>he pull one over on me?

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<v Speaker 2>So I've heard of the Cinid guns for sure, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Chanel number five, I've never heard of Chanelle

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<v Speaker 2>number five.

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<v Speaker 1>No, okay, man, I will get you a bottle of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna send it to you to try. Just go,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see, I'll put it on a trail camp. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what he said. He was like, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't because I've never tried it, or I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to anybody who has heard about it. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>he said Chanell number five. And then he says for

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<v Speaker 1>his Bobcats that he traps out in Texas. He says

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<v Speaker 1>he uses CDs in trees. Yep, that's legit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's legit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Maybe maybe he's not fooling me with the old

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<v Speaker 1>Chanell number five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I know, so I don't know. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>heard of it. Maybe he puts his lure or his

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<v Speaker 2>scent in a Chanel number five bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know, you know, but I do. But

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<v Speaker 1>why would it be a Chanelle number five bottle? Why

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't he, Like, I mean, he could get something a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>probably less expensive. I don't even know how much Chanelle

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<v Speaker 1>number five costs. Maybe maybe it isn't and it is

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<v Speaker 1>an expense.

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<v Speaker 2>Of his wife. Might be bougie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he's using his wife's perfume? Is Oh? That guy screwed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one hundred and eight bucks a bottle.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it have castor in it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? It might?

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<v Speaker 2>Castorium might a lot of a lot of beaver casters

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<v Speaker 2>used in perfumes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, man, I mean it's got hints of uh May rose, jasmine, bourbon, vanilla.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet it's the bourbon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, it has to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be the bourbon. I'm telling you. But

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<v Speaker 1>uh so you talk about lures that you sell online,

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<v Speaker 1>how how do you come up with with your formulas

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<v Speaker 1>and what they like and what they're attracted to? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you just reading what you've seen all these years?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So Pokatella. I believe it's in Idaho. Yeah. They

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<v Speaker 2>they did a lot of research studies, government research studies,

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<v Speaker 2>and those are all published, so you can look those

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<v Speaker 2>up and read about them. But fatty acid scent is

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<v Speaker 2>so like if you break down fats into you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fatty acid. You have lipids, and then you break them

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<v Speaker 2>down further into fatty acids, and so you're pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>at skunk. Fat is a really good attractant. Once it's

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<v Speaker 2>broke down, it has a pretty much kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a sweet rancid smell. Really, but it's a fatty acid

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<v Speaker 2>fish oil. You know, you catch a lot of bull

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<v Speaker 2>head and you want to make fish oil. You can

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<v Speaker 2>make it out of the belly meat or the belly fat,

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<v Speaker 2>and it makes it very good. Once it's broken down,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes a very good scent. And then what you

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much do is either you're fortunate enough to have

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<v Speaker 2>a recipe already given to you, or you have to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of formulate your own off of what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>And luckily I had a few older mentors that were

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<v Speaker 2>kind enough to, hey, look, I think this will serve

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<v Speaker 2>you well. If you're going to try and pursue this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just don't screw it up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's me. Yeah, don't screw it up. That's that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to screw it up. But you offer.

419
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<v Speaker 1>What's I gotta know what this is? What is K

420
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<v Speaker 1>nine pudding?

421
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<v Speaker 2>It's so that's it's called Comanche is the name, and uh,

422
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:35.519
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty much just a concoction of plans and other

423
00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:38.920
<v Speaker 2>types of lure bases that I use, and then it

424
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<v Speaker 2>has a little bit of castor and some other additives

425
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:46.519
<v Speaker 2>to it just to preserve it. Like sodium benzoate is

426
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:51.200
<v Speaker 2>a preservative. Methyl parabin is a preservative. Your benzoates are

427
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.680
<v Speaker 2>going to like really work on your bacterias, whereas in

428
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:55.759
<v Speaker 2>your parabins are going to work on your fun guys.

429
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<v Speaker 2>So you're not getting fungus in it. It's just like

430
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:01.359
<v Speaker 2>if you're trying to are food.

431
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's interesting. Man's learning so much? How much

432
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<v Speaker 1>so if someone reaches out to you, like you know,

433
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<v Speaker 1>a farmer in let's say western Oklahoma who really likes

434
00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:17.799
<v Speaker 1>his deer and hates the coyotes? How much? How much acreage?

435
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how much acreage can you work with? I mean,

436
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.440
<v Speaker 1>are you working with a lot of smaller farms? Are

437
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you working with a lot of big ranches? How does?

438
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 1>How does? How do you go about finding the right

439
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.640
<v Speaker 1>piece of property to hunt coyotes on?

440
00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I try to find the livestock, honestly, whether where there's

441
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:42.920
<v Speaker 2>livestock or where there's deer ranches, you know, even out

442
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>on those plants, the plantations out east on those guys's ranches,

443
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:49.359
<v Speaker 2>I guess as you can call them, but they call

444
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<v Speaker 2>them plantations.

445
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

446
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<v Speaker 2>It really it doesn't really matter on the acreage. It

447
00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 2>just matters on what what hub you have, what source

448
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 2>where are they all going to funnel into and out

449
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.079
<v Speaker 2>in Oklahoma? Or I trap. I have probably over one

450
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty thousand acres that I trap on ok

451
00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:18.039
<v Speaker 2>And some are you know, guys with livestock, and then

452
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:22.079
<v Speaker 2>some are just ag ground, whether that's milo or you know,

453
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:25.039
<v Speaker 2>trapping on center pivots where the water's at. It's so

454
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>dry out and you know Oklahoma that they need water,

455
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:34.759
<v Speaker 2>they need food. So you find those two resources, you

456
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of got it whipped. If you have if you

457
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:40.359
<v Speaker 2>have a water trough or you know they have all

458
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.599
<v Speaker 2>of them sitting around where there's livestock, there's gonna be

459
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:45.599
<v Speaker 2>water there. Man.

460
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<v Speaker 1>It's it's fascinating to think because you're going through this

461
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going, okay, yeah, I know where that is

462
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.400
<v Speaker 1>on my property. I'm just thinking, and I think that's

463
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where the master class would benefit a

464
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>guy like me is because if you have property or

465
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>you want to get into this, that would be the

466
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>route that you would need to go. Like you, you're

467
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>starting to think, and I think you spur a lot

468
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.279
<v Speaker 1>of thought in your classes trotructional videos.

469
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and especially with the private forum because if guys

470
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<v Speaker 2>don't understand something on a video. They can literally take

471
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<v Speaker 2>a picture of it, put it right on the forum

472
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>and be like, hey, what's going on with this?

473
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Or you know, can you can you.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Elaborate a little bit more on that. It's just it

475
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<v Speaker 2>the way we go with the way I we have

476
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<v Speaker 2>it set up. I had someone go through and set

477
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 2>this site up. So the way that we set it up,

478
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I tried to make it as user friendly as possible,

479
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, not having to get photo bucket and then

480
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>download that and share it to a forum. Have you

481
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.039
<v Speaker 2>been on any of those forums? Oh yeah, Oh yeah,

482
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>it's sometimes it gets rough.

483
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 1>It is rough, it's tedious, it's it makes it not

484
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>worth it. And that's and really I mean, and you

485
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>go to public forum, go to any of them, you

486
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>do not know what you're gonna get. No, Like, that's

487
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the thing. It's the wild West. They're not vetted, they're

488
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:11.559
<v Speaker 1>not you're not mond. You're not getting a lot of

489
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 1>good monitor monitor not monetization monitoring. Yeah, you're not getting

490
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:19.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that. And I think I think this

491
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:24.799
<v Speaker 1>type of forum would really benefit especially a newbie like myself.

492
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, And that's the thing too, is there's a

493
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of there's a lot of guys on there that

494
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>have knowledge, a lot of like my mentor is on

495
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 2>that site, and we don't poke fun. We don't say

496
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 2>that's the dumbest question I ever heard, you know, because

497
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 2>we're I've been there, We've all been there.

498
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah.

499
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Try try not to you know, belittle anyone.

500
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean that's important because man, I don't like

501
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>me asking the Chanel number five. I mean, you could

502
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 1>have gone, dude, I think I think you're getting hose.

503
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 1>But how do you know if you don't ask someone

504
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.559
<v Speaker 1>who knows what they're talking about before I go spend

505
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:09.759
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eight bucks for a kyote lure that

506
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>probably doesn't work. I mean, I guess I could give

507
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it to my wife. Yeah, I mean she's like, why

508
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 1>do I have half a bottle? Who did you take

509
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>this from? Like the question? Then I got a lot

510
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.759
<v Speaker 1>of answer to. No, Honey, I swear it was from

511
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 1>It was it was for kyote bait. She's like, kyo bait. Really, Yeah,

512
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that's how it is. So when is when is the

513
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 1>best time to trap?

514
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.079
<v Speaker 2>And well, that just really depends on if you're going

515
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>for prime for or if you're going for predation work, okay,

516
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:52.920
<v Speaker 2>prime for you're going to wait till your you know,

517
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>obviously your later months when it gets cold. And they say,

518
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, daylight does a lot with it, and I don't.

519
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't really buy into that whole philosophy. I trap

520
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 2>as soon as I can. I love trapping. I love

521
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 2>being out there. I love the challenges, the adversities, you know,

522
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>the the triumphs. So I start as early as I can.

523
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:20.599
<v Speaker 2>And when you start early, you're catching the young of

524
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:22.759
<v Speaker 2>the year that maybe there's one to two year old

525
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>pups that you know, haven't really been out and about

526
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>as much, but they have beautiful fur. Their fur is

527
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>because they haven't been through too many years where they

528
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.279
<v Speaker 2>have you know, laid down and got froze, stuck to

529
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:38.039
<v Speaker 2>the ground and pulled out their guard hairs, or they've

530
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>been in fights, or they've got shot at or you know,

531
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>went through barbed wire and just you know damage. So

532
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>you get a really good pelt. And then I also

533
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>sell tanned fur, and I get that. I don't have

534
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.680
<v Speaker 2>it on my website yet. I'm I'm in the process.

535
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the infancy of getting it all done. So

536
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what I do. I go out there and

537
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I try and help those landowners out west. But then

538
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I also I try not to waste the fur or

539
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>waste the animal. So I take the glands out, I

540
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 2>take the skulls off if I can, the vaculums. I

541
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 2>try to repurpose every part of that animal, because as

542
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:19.920
<v Speaker 2>much as I want to get rid of them, I

543
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>also really really respect that animal. Because you try and

544
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.240
<v Speaker 2>get rid of them, they just they just keep coming.

545
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 1>They they do know you're right, that's cool that you're

546
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>able to repurpose everything. And really, because you know, there's

547
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys out there that I mean, probably

548
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>not most trappers. I think I feel that most trappers

549
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.279
<v Speaker 1>are doing it for the right reasons. You're going to

550
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>invest the time, and it sounds like the money because

551
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I've got way too many hobbies. It sounds like to

552
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>start spending you know, three hundred dollars per trap, like

553
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>especially on some good ones or whatever you might need. Right,

554
00:31:58.640 --> 00:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they're doing it for the right reason.

555
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, A lot of guys. You know, there's

556
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:08.759
<v Speaker 2>knuckleheads in every outdoor genre or cohort, but a lot

557
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 2>of guys are doing it all for the right reasons.

558
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 2>And you know that's those are the guys I look

559
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 2>up to. And you know, I don't want to sit

560
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sit here. And you know, have

561
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>your audience think I'm the the king or the Krim

562
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Dela Krim. I'm not. There's a lot of guys out

563
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:25.119
<v Speaker 2>there that are. You know, they probably forgot more about

564
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>trapping than I know.

565
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 1>But man, you know a lot more. You know that

566
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>much more than I do. I mean, so, I mean,

567
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you know a ton.

568
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, most of those guys are getting

569
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 2>up into their sixties. I think the average age for

570
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 2>trapping for a trapper is sixty two.

571
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

572
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, so we're losing We're losing a lot of

573
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 2>the younger generation in trapping. And that was one reason

574
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I started posting publicly was to try and get maybe

575
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>some of the you know, the younger guys. You know,

576
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm thirty four. I'd like to get some of the

577
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty to thirty year old gents you know, or even

578
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.440
<v Speaker 2>ladies involved. And but I get a lot of backlash

579
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>from that. You know a lot of people, Oh yeah,

580
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I got telephone threats like I don't know.

581
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I can if you want, I can try and play

582
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>the voicemail.

583
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, yes, do that. It's amazing, is it? Sorry,

584
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 1>like I want to hear it? It is this PG

585
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>thirteen because oh yeah, yeah, yeah it's PG thirteen. I

586
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>mean there's threats thrown about all over the place.

587
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, like, is do you allow cussing? Oh?

588
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we can beep that. We can beat that.

589
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I can't wait.

590
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we're playing a threat to Colt from Coyotia Academy.

591
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Marma, I don't want to kill you, you know,

592
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.680
<v Speaker 2>and your whole family for killing all those animals. I

593
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 2>want to kill you. My country song was Ohio and

594
00:33:58.119 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I want groll with you. I want to show you one.

595
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Holy crab. Yeah he sounds serious. Gosh, I don't for

596
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>all the critters I've killed, I don't think I've received something.

597
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a badge of honor right there. Well congratulations.

598
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just try and I try and put

599
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 2>it out to the public so they can see it,

600
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I try to. I don't try and

601
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.079
<v Speaker 2>do them, you know, any I don't try and do

602
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>those any animals any ill harm on video or anything.

603
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be as as humane as possible.

604
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.480
<v Speaker 2>As I possibly can. Yeah, exactly.

605
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but a guy like that here, this is

606
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a prime example of someone who doesn't know what they're

607
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about, that leads just first with their like, I

608
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>could tell you probably what kind of yard sign that

609
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:54.039
<v Speaker 1>guy has in his yard.

610
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can tell you that.

611
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean he doesn't. He doesn't lead with logic,

612
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.559
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't lead with science. He just it's an emotional

613
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>response for him. That's a that's that's a creature that

614
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 1>How could you kill that? Come? Cut? Cut me a

615
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.639
<v Speaker 1>break here, Like you know what that thing does to

616
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 1>a fun like populations on whitetail or. I mean, that

617
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>thing's killing way more than you have, way more.

618
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Yep, they don't. They don't see you that though. You know,

619
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:30.119
<v Speaker 2>they don't know, don't.

620
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>That's it's emotion driven, That's all it is. It's emotion.

621
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm gonna get all my soapbox. I better not

622
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 1>do that.

623
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you. They called. They called two other

624
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.320
<v Speaker 2>times after that, uh, and I answered. I the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I wasn't able to answer. I answered, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just hung up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, ah, that's I definitely know what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>yard sign they have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I wanted it to be documented. So I

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<v Speaker 2>called my local police department and then called my cell

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<v Speaker 2>phone carrier, and you know, they both said, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't do anything to help you. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I figured that as much.

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<v Speaker 1>At least at least yep, it's documented. So man, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to hear that you get those kind of calls,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, we get our fair share of hate

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<v Speaker 1>around here too, and it's, oh yeah, it is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Like we're it's not going to change.

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<v Speaker 2>What I do. It's just a hurdle.

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<v Speaker 1>You just got to get over it. That's right, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Colt dude, thank you so much for taking time out

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<v Speaker 1>of your busy day and answering a random Facebook message.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how much I enjoyed talking with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a pleasure, man, it really was.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. You guys go check them out. Kyote Dash Academy

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<v Speaker 1>dot com go look them up. Are you on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on Instagram, YouTube, TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything, it's it is worth a look. I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 1>will not be disappointed. And I mean, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I know what I'm asking for Christmas. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna start trapping some coyots. So uh so. Anyway, Colt,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all you gun talkers, you gun talk hunters,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the drill. Keep those muzzles pointing in a

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<v Speaker 1>safe direction, and always be on the hunt.