Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the
Speaker 1: Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name
Speaker 1: is Tim Duckworth. Two days, two podcasts. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: really know when this is getting released, but you know,
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. But we've been cranking them out,
Speaker 1: you know, because we got a lot of stuff to
Speaker 1: talk about. We're back in the saddle. I love it.
Speaker 1: I know Tim loves it, even though I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't get the vibe that he's loving it. I got
Speaker 1: the vibe that you were loving it yesterday. You know,
Speaker 1: you had your shirt off. You were just free flowing
Speaker 1: like you're ready to go.
Speaker 2: I got a busy day today. I'm just.
Speaker 1: Today. You're the one with the heart out.
Speaker 2: I got the hot at today. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So about thirty five minutes, we'll try and crank through
Speaker 1: some more of the topics I know on the on
Speaker 1: the most recent episode, we hit on GG poker buying
Speaker 1: the Basic, and then we hit on laptop gate, which
Speaker 1: I think we were corrected on Twitter saying whatever, same thing.
Speaker 1: So we hit on that sort of stuff. We got
Speaker 1: a couple more items that we do want to tackle
Speaker 1: and get our thoughts out there about and discuss first
Speaker 1: things first, WSP Paradise is back. It was announced recently.
Speaker 1: They announced it, and then everything happened with laptop slash, Salvergates,
Speaker 1: the gd Poker bought the ws A p and it
Speaker 1: almost feels like that people kind of forgot about WSP
Speaker 1: Paradise for a little bit. I'm assuming that momentum will
Speaker 1: will rebuild for DOBASITPY Paradise. So we're gonna hit on that.
Speaker 1: We got Scott sever winning Player of the Year, which.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He had one of the most incredible summers ever, if
Speaker 1: not the most incredible summer ever, and it just feels
Speaker 1: like no one's talking about It's just like like, is
Speaker 1: there an even an article on WISP dot com. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I mean they bounced it via a
Speaker 1: tweet at like twelve thirty four in the morning.
Speaker 2: Yes, they did do that. I have Patrick Antonius announced,
Speaker 2: I have Chuck Todd Durant preview Paradise Paradise Cherokee preview s.
Speaker 2: Yeahswer to you is no, it was not an announced.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Patrick Antonio's he's in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to hit on that. I know that's
Speaker 1: that's somewhat old news. But hey, listen, this is our podcast.
Speaker 1: We do what we want. We're going to hit on it,
Speaker 1: and then of course we do need to touch on
Speaker 1: the PGT. The Poker Growth Tour is entering the second
Speaker 1: half of its season. That second half of the season
Speaker 1: starts with Super High Roller Bowl slash Super High Roller
Speaker 1: Series slash Super High Roller Bowl Series however we're calling it.
Speaker 1: That is coming up in a few days time. Tim
Speaker 1: is going to be traveling across the pond to Cyprus
Speaker 1: to be at the events. Maybe we'll be able to
Speaker 1: get some live pods from the floor. We'll see, we'll
Speaker 1: see how things work out. That would be lovely. So
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Speaker 1: It's back, baby, and it doesn't look like it's going anywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you listened to dat this week,
Speaker 1: this recent one. I only listened to maybe fifteen twenty
Speaker 1: minutes of it, but there was one line in there
Speaker 1: from Daniel Legrando when he said, wisbe Paradise is not
Speaker 1: going anywhere, And the way he said it was like,
Speaker 1: if you want to contend with us in December, meaning
Speaker 1: gg poker slashsp then good luck, have fun, because we're
Speaker 1: doing this every year and we're doing it big, as
Speaker 1: evidenced by the fact that in the second year it
Speaker 1: returns to Atlantis in the Bahamas with a fifty million
Speaker 1: dollar guaranteed main event or I should say sorry, super
Speaker 1: main event. Okay, the largest tournament guarantee ever this year
Speaker 1: it does come with a twenty five thousand dollars buy in.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts over there when you saw the
Speaker 1: news fifty million.
Speaker 2: Huge, massive, and then I saw that it came with
Speaker 2: the twenty five K prize points, so I lost a
Speaker 2: little bit of interest, to be honest. Now, my first
Speaker 2: thoughts was, is this pocustars? You know, this is a
Speaker 2: very PSPC ish Nothing wrong with that, honestly, Look, not
Speaker 2: a fan, not a fan of the battle between them
Speaker 2: and WPT. I'm not a fan of a twenty five
Speaker 2: k main event, you know. But they're doing what they
Speaker 2: want to do. I don't think they're going to miss
Speaker 2: the guarantee. We said that all last year that they
Speaker 2: wouldn't miss a single one. They didn't. I feel the
Speaker 2: same this year. The series is pretty pretty damn robust
Speaker 2: for uh, you know, the client tell they're targeting, so
Speaker 2: it'd be fun. I wouldn't mind going to to be
Speaker 2: on site, but you know, I can't really afford some
Speaker 2: of these buyans, so I'll have to skip it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So speaking of some of the buyans, I mean,
Speaker 1: of course we mentioned the twenty five thousand dollars super
Speaker 1: main event. I'm just going to hit on on what
Speaker 1: the schedule is and then I'll give some thoughts as well.
Speaker 1: And Tim and I'll talk about this a little bit further,
Speaker 1: But you have a WSP Mini Main Event five million
Speaker 1: dollar guarantee, that is event number one, twenty five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars buy in. You have a Triton Million. That's something
Speaker 1: else that is coming with the Bisbee Paradise this time
Speaker 1: around is that they have partnered with Triton. So this
Speaker 1: Triton Million is it's a million dollar buying in the
Speaker 1: format of one VIP slash businessman, slash invited player, I
Speaker 1: don't really know how to call them, and then one
Speaker 1: pro and those people kind of like team up together
Speaker 1: in a way like if you're the VIP, you can
Speaker 1: invite one pro. Each person puts up five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars and you play. So the buy in is listed
Speaker 1: as two times five hundred thousand dollars. You have a
Speaker 1: pot limit Omaha Super high Roller one hundred K. You
Speaker 1: have the gig Masters Online Championship with two and a
Speaker 1: half million guaranteed, twenty five hundred dollars. There Dealer's Choice
Speaker 1: Championship twenty five K Deep Stack Nolaman hold them five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, the Triton Main Event for one hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: the PLO Championship for fifty kbs AP Super Main Event
Speaker 1: that we already talked about, twenty five k buying, fifty
Speaker 1: million dollar guarantee, Paradise Pot Limit Omaha, ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: buying Mystery Millions Online, five million dollars guaranteed, twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars buying the GG Millions, Nolamit Hold Them Championship,
Speaker 1: five million dollar guaranteed, ten thousand dollars buying nolam Ath
Speaker 1: hold Them high Roller, fifty thousand dollars buying the Super
Speaker 1: Saver one million dollar Invitational, one million dollars guaranteed in
Speaker 1: that one that is a free roll slash invite only event.
Speaker 1: And then you have the closer a Nolan hold Them
Speaker 1: Bounty tur about five thousand dollars buying. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you touched on the buy ins, Tim, I mean,
Speaker 1: what are your first thoughts on what they're presenting here?
Speaker 1: Lowest buying being twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: It's big, bring you money, as simple as that. Like
Speaker 2: I touched on before, that they're targeting a certain group
Speaker 2: of players. They're targeting obviously people coming and playing a
Speaker 2: big package of events. I think they may have missed
Speaker 2: on some things, like the twenty five k Dealer's Choice
Speaker 2: I think is going to not work at all. There's
Speaker 2: no there's no other mixed games to really convince mixed
Speaker 2: games specific players to come. But sure, yeah, Daniel Togron
Speaker 2: to Seande josh Aria, they're going to be there, they'll
Speaker 2: play it, but you're not really getting any of the
Speaker 2: mixed guys, the mixed only guys out there. So I
Speaker 2: feel like they could have gone without that and just
Speaker 2: added another twenty five k no limit hold them heads
Speaker 2: up tournament or something, you know, like something that fits
Speaker 2: the majority of the player pool that are there. We
Speaker 2: all know Ohamas as expensive, so you can't really have
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars buy in bracelet events. You need to
Speaker 2: start at that twenty five hundred price point, and even
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe that's a little too on the low side,
Speaker 2: but it's a good schedule for a lot of people
Speaker 2: out there, and I think it's going to just have
Speaker 2: as much interest this year pending a few keys, and
Speaker 2: although we haven't heard anything, that's the most important thing
Speaker 2: to make this successful is basically doubling down on the
Speaker 2: incentives they gave players, So there was lots of free rooms,
Speaker 2: there was lots of packages given out. There was also
Speaker 2: those I guess you could call it rake back promotions,
Speaker 2: the bracelet promotions, the cashers promotions, stuff like that really
Speaker 2: incentivize people to go. And that's how they hit all
Speaker 2: their guarantees. Now, if none of that comes back, will
Speaker 2: they hit these numbers? You know, we always talk about
Speaker 2: the first year is always the best year. It's the
Speaker 2: second year is the hardest. We found that in our series.
Speaker 2: You know, other tours have acted the same way. So
Speaker 2: if they don't bring if they don't bring those you know,
Speaker 2: incentives back, will people want to go to the Bahamas?
Speaker 2: Or will they want to go to EPT Prague, or
Speaker 2: they want to go to WPT World Championship. Will they
Speaker 2: want to just stay home for Christmas? So I think
Speaker 2: that's pretty important and hopefully the quicker they get that
Speaker 2: stuff out, the more likely they can stop filling rooms
Speaker 2: and making sure they hit all these numbers.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the incentives is already out there, and
Speaker 1: that is the Super Saver one million Dollar Invitational. So
Speaker 1: this takes place on the looks like the final day
Speaker 1: of the series. So the series does run December sixth
Speaker 1: through nineteenth. The Super Saver Invitational kicks off on December eighteenth,
Speaker 1: so second to last day there. So this is a
Speaker 1: one million dollar free roll tournament that is open to
Speaker 1: bracelet holders who participate in the Super Main Event. So
Speaker 1: if you have a WSP Gold bracelet, it sounds like
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where it comes from, online, live, GG
Speaker 1: poker here in the States, whatever it may be, and
Speaker 1: you play the twenty five thousand dollars buying Super Main Event,
Speaker 1: then you qualify for this million dollar free roll tournament.
Speaker 1: It's also open to one hundred K package early bird purchasers.
Speaker 1: Now what this is is for a limited time only.
Speaker 1: This is all listed on doubysip dot com, So if
Speaker 1: you guys want to find this stuff, you can go
Speaker 1: over to WISP dot com slash twenty twenty four slash paradise.
Speaker 1: So it says limited time only early bird one hundred
Speaker 1: K Paradise package. It's limited until November first. So if
Speaker 1: you deposit via the doubsip plus app secure your Passion package,
Speaker 1: deposit ten thousand dollars by September thirtieth, and ninety thousand
Speaker 1: dollars by November first, that's option number one or just
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars by November first. This is very
Speaker 1: confusing how this reads Atlanta's front wire of one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars by November first. Free fourteen nights sweet room.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been to Atlantis. It's expensive as all
Speaker 1: hell to go down there, so free fourteen nights is good.
Speaker 1: You of course get entry into the one million dollars
Speaker 1: Super Saver Invitational. You get VIP airport pickup at NASA Airports.
Speaker 1: So I mean, listen, if if you're one of those
Speaker 1: people who are gonna go down there, you know, like
Speaker 1: a lot of the players that play in these high
Speaker 1: roller events, whether it be Triton, whether it be the
Speaker 1: PGT or elsewhere, you should probably just do this, you know,
Speaker 1: get your money in and then get the free fourteen
Speaker 1: nights room. Of course, you get into this million dollar
Speaker 1: free roll, So there's that. And then it's also open
Speaker 1: to to GG Poker package winners, so the Super Saver
Speaker 1: Invitational bracelet holders, who participate in the Super Maine hundred
Speaker 1: K package, early bird purchasers, and GG Poker Package winners.
Speaker 1: So that's printy enticing, I think for a lot of
Speaker 1: people to go down there. Now, I don't fully know
Speaker 1: about the price points. I mean, it's clear that they're
Speaker 1: tacking a certain area of the playing community, right the
Speaker 1: high rollers. I'm assuming with a lot of this stuff
Speaker 1: and a lot of these events, a few of them
Speaker 1: at least you have the GG Masters Online Championship, you
Speaker 1: have the whereas its Mystery Millions Online.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming WSP Super Main Event is going to have
Speaker 1: online stuff in it as well. Maybe even this WSP
Speaker 1: Mini Main Event will have online stuff. So probably have
Speaker 1: a lot of online to live formation of these tournaments.
Speaker 1: So I will say that it's probably not entry point
Speaker 1: of twenty five hundred dollars for all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's probably entry point if you can, you know, get
Speaker 1: on GG poker and play. I don't know what they'll
Speaker 1: they'll have there just yet. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: been announced. Apologies of it has and I missed it
Speaker 1: to them, But I'm assuming there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of different avenues, different pathways for people to you know,
Speaker 1: funnel themselves into these events, win packages, all that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff. Like you I get some PSBC vibes from
Speaker 1: the Super Main Event and about the supermin Event, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of surprised that it was allowed to be called
Speaker 1: the Super main Event, saying that now is different than
Speaker 1: when this announcement first came out. This announcement came out
Speaker 1: before GG poker announced that they were buying the ever
Speaker 1: Speed yep right, obviously saying it now gg pokern can
Speaker 1: do it at once. Okay, I mean the deal is
Speaker 1: not fully complete. I think it's going to take till
Speaker 1: the end of the year to like actually get approved
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. But for all intents
Speaker 1: and purposes, it's done.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Super Main Event implies that it's better than the main exactly.
Speaker 2: I hate so.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't the was main event in the
Speaker 1: summer is the flagship. It should always be the flagship.
Speaker 1: Like so, so is this and I could be getting
Speaker 1: people in trouble for something that hasn't been done yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is this assigned to the future of
Speaker 1: ideas for a bigger main event. You're calling it the
Speaker 1: super main Event. You have a bigger buy and there's
Speaker 1: always been that that conversation, not that you and I
Speaker 1: agree with it, but like, will they have a raise
Speaker 1: that it be main event? Buy in. You know, ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars today is what it was ten twenty, thirty
Speaker 1: years ago, et cetera. Like there's always that conversation. So
Speaker 1: is this like a plan going forward? I mean, you're
Speaker 1: you're coming out with a fifty million dollar guarantees. So
Speaker 1: not that you're not that you're challenging the WSP Main
Speaker 1: Event price pool yet, which is you know, almost pushing
Speaker 1: one hundred million now, right, But I mean coming out
Speaker 1: with fifty million, you're setting the foundation for this quote
Speaker 1: unquote super main Event pretty lofty. So is the goal
Speaker 1: to you know, eventually have like basically a second version
Speaker 1: of the WSP Main Event that takes place in the
Speaker 1: summer I at a Caesar's property for the next twenty
Speaker 1: years according to the press release, like at Paradise. Is
Speaker 1: that kind of the plan here? Or long term? I'm
Speaker 1: talking long term? You know it's gonna obviously this isn't
Speaker 1: gona happen this year, next year or the year after that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's going to take five, ten, fifteen years, whatever.
Speaker 1: So is that the plan here? I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just throwing stuff out there.
Speaker 2: I think the plan is this variety in the scheduling
Speaker 2: in the WSP brand. I think it was a little
Speaker 2: bit of a failure to call it the super main event.
Speaker 2: I mean, super is the wrong word. It should be
Speaker 2: something related to the price like but I think they
Speaker 2: I think maybe it's more of like, how do we
Speaker 2: differentiate the main event from the main event? As in,
Speaker 2: so there's a world where maybe next year we see
Speaker 2: the WSP year, it may event be five K, you know,
Speaker 2: something like that, where it's a different price point, a
Speaker 2: different kind of style, so that then all three main
Speaker 2: events are slightly different. I think that's where they may
Speaker 2: be leaning towards more than anything else. But who knows.
Speaker 2: I don't think that the Vegas one will ever be
Speaker 2: twenty five K. I don't think. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I agree, you know, but what I'm getting at is,
Speaker 1: does with the buy in, with the guarantee, with the
Speaker 1: the marketing aspect of calling it super, you know, does
Speaker 1: this in a way take some shine away from the
Speaker 1: WSP main event. I don't know yet. I'm just this
Speaker 1: is me just kind of working on some takes on
Speaker 1: the fly in my head. I'm not sure where I'm
Speaker 1: going to come out on this this all. I mean,
Speaker 1: the man event is the biggest and the best, and
Speaker 1: I think it will always be that.
Speaker 2: I don't think it would take anything off the luster
Speaker 2: of the main event, the main the Vegas main event
Speaker 2: is the main event, and I think everyone sees it
Speaker 2: that way. It would take a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I understand that it would take a lot.
Speaker 1: But if you were if you were the person who
Speaker 1: had a lot to be able to do it, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you do some things like make something named better than
Speaker 1: the other thing, have a bigger buy, and come out
Speaker 1: with a massive guarantee the quarter. That also doesn't mean
Speaker 1: live poker.
Speaker 2: There needs to be more of that. Think of the
Speaker 2: history the fifty was it fifty two years or something?
Speaker 2: Fifty five years of the ten thousand dollars event?
Speaker 1: And you can talk never you could never battle with history.
Speaker 2: You can't battle with history. And like maybe in fifty
Speaker 2: years we can have a discussion, but right now it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not happening.
Speaker 1: I'm basically just all I'm doing right now is I'm
Speaker 1: planting the seeds. I'm asking various questions that maybe in
Speaker 1: ten years you and I can get back on a
Speaker 1: podcast someday and see if we're right or wrong is
Speaker 1: all I'm doing, you know, because this obviously isn't going
Speaker 1: to come anytime soon. This twenty five K Dealer's Choice
Speaker 1: is certainly the ugly duckling of the schedule, Like it's
Speaker 1: just it sticks out like a sore thumb to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's there. It's at a price
Speaker 1: point that's very high. So I'm I mean, it's clear
Speaker 1: that this whole schedule was attached or was made to
Speaker 1: attack a certain clientele of player, right, and then you
Speaker 1: just kind of shoehorn that one in there. And I
Speaker 1: don't know how many of the players that you're going
Speaker 1: after also play a twenty five K Dealer's Choice. It
Speaker 1: just it seems a little bit weird to me.
Speaker 2: It will probably get forty players because you'll get Danny
Speaker 2: Tang registering for it and stuff like that. You'll still
Speaker 2: get an okay turn out. You're not going to get Sure.
Speaker 2: You're probably not getting David od b Bacon. You're not
Speaker 2: probably you might get Senheimer. You're not getting the the
Speaker 2: mixed game guys, you know, that's.
Speaker 1: All you're gonna You're only going to get the mixed
Speaker 1: game guys who also play the big no limit stuff, correct,
Speaker 1: And it would be my guest. I mean, unless there's
Speaker 1: probably there's probably some people that might go some mixed
Speaker 1: game people who are well versed enough in No limit
Speaker 1: hold them and want to play the Super main event
Speaker 1: that might go like you might get those people too, right,
Speaker 1: So I think it's interesting. I mean, they're clearly going
Speaker 1: big from this schedule. I mean, it's it's out of control.
Speaker 1: It's fifteen gold bracelet events. I mentioned the two Triton events,
Speaker 1: the Tradon Million and the Triton Main Event. Not only
Speaker 1: do you have that fifty million dollar guarantee, you have
Speaker 1: three five million dollar guarantees, you have a two and
Speaker 1: a half million dollar guarantee, you have a one million
Speaker 1: dollar guarantee that that's super the Savior Invitational. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just it's robust. It's certainly headline grabbing where I
Speaker 1: sit right now, and this is going to start to
Speaker 1: lead into our well, actually, first before I get into that,
Speaker 1: the partnership with Triton Poker is is interesting. You know,
Speaker 1: it creates a bit of a three headed monster in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. You know, you obviously have GG
Speaker 1: Poker and WSP who have been partners for you know,
Speaker 1: several years, and now GG Poker recently you know, acquired
Speaker 1: or at least announced the acquisition of the WSP brand,
Speaker 1: and now they are partnering with Triton to bring that in.
Speaker 1: So you're probably gonna get all the all the Triton
Speaker 1: players you know are going to be going down there.
Speaker 1: And we know how big and crazy and exciting and
Speaker 1: fun and competitive those fields are that happen in all
Speaker 1: the different Triton events around the world. So you're going
Speaker 1: to have that one thing that this has done. And
Speaker 1: I mean, from where I sit right now, Tuesday, August thirteenth,
Speaker 1: nine forty six am, they won December.
Speaker 2: I mean, na get out of here.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, let's go here. I want to hear your argument.
Speaker 2: I mean, what why have they won December?
Speaker 1: Well, can you tell me where the WPT is? Hello,
Speaker 1: WPT wake up please. I don't know if you saw,
Speaker 1: but your biggest competitor has dropped the largest live tournament
Speaker 1: guarantee in history and it's coming out with an absolute bang.
Speaker 1: Has pardoned with Triton all this sort of stuff. Where
Speaker 1: are you guys, They're coming, They're waiting, they're coming, They're planning. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: where huh huh? Like where are they? Look, I always
Speaker 1: had all we've had for months now are dates.
Speaker 2: That's fine. Dates is okay. I've blucked it off on
Speaker 2: the calendar. It's good. I know when it is. Look,
Speaker 2: we know what's going on, and we obviously have some
Speaker 2: behind the scenes knowledge though you know, we don't really
Speaker 2: need to discuss, but you know they're going they're both
Speaker 2: playing chickens with each other. All.
Speaker 1: First of all, I have zero behind the scenes A lot.
Speaker 1: If I had some behind the scenes knowledge, I would
Speaker 1: I would have some insight here. But I have nothing,
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm wondering where the heck is WPT.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Look, look, WBT announced that dates when
Speaker 2: like March or something. They announced it very early.
Speaker 1: Way early.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is fine. You put a luck Now we know.
Speaker 2: The next step is wait, let's see what WSP does.
Speaker 2: They announced their big chop. So once they announced their
Speaker 2: big chop, WPT and I go, okay, now we have
Speaker 2: that info, let's figure out how schedule. Are we doing
Speaker 2: a twenty five million guarantee? We're doing a fifty million guarantee? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 1: Questions to you, are what's their guarantee going to be
Speaker 1: If you had to guess what was it last ya
Speaker 1: forty and they missed, it's more than two million.
Speaker 2: It's going to be forty again guaranteed. In my mind,
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going down. I don't think they
Speaker 2: I don't think they can go down.
Speaker 1: Well, that was the whole argument that we put forth
Speaker 1: last year, is why you don't go twenty five exactly? Yea,
Speaker 1: then you can't go down. Like we've had this problem
Speaker 1: within the PGT, you know, like we're like, once you
Speaker 1: do something, you can't put that cat back in the bag.
Speaker 1: It just ain't happening. And if you do it, if
Speaker 1: you put stuff back in the bag, it looks negative.
Speaker 1: People come at you for it. You know, they wonder,
Speaker 1: oh my god, is stuff really bad? Behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: because you know, they're not going as big as they
Speaker 1: once did. That's why you just gradually build up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're probably planning that stuff. They're also planning
Speaker 2: the side events. You know, it'd be very smart for
Speaker 2: WPT to stay completely away from the high rollers and
Speaker 2: and like we've kind of done on the PGT, focus
Speaker 2: on that price point of sub ten K. I think
Speaker 2: that is a really big price point in America. And then,
Speaker 2: and the reason I say Bahamas hasn't won yet is
Speaker 2: because I think we know first hand the amount of
Speaker 2: our players. And I've had out one of our players
Speaker 2: speak directly to me and said and ask, like I
Speaker 2: would I want to be I'd rather stay here, so
Speaker 2: like then go to is regardless of all the stuff
Speaker 2: that's there.
Speaker 1: Like well, and for that player, I'm going to give
Speaker 1: you fifty Triton players that are going to Paradise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might. You can obviously change his mind. There's
Speaker 2: ways to change his mind. He's just saying that. I
Speaker 2: think the I would say ninety seven percent Now, that's
Speaker 2: that's ninety seven percent of the player pool that's targeted
Speaker 2: for Bahamas that lives in America outside of Florida would
Speaker 2: be more interested in going to Vegas than going to Bahamas. Now,
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that ninety seven percent only goes to the win.
Speaker 2: You know, there's ways to incentivize them to bring that
Speaker 2: percentage down. But there's definitely going to be players that
Speaker 2: just like I ain't going to Bahamas. Doesn't matter. You
Speaker 2: can't convince me otherwise. I am ten minute drive to
Speaker 2: the win. Why do I want to go spend twenty
Speaker 2: k in accommodation and travel expenses in the Bahamas.
Speaker 1: So well, if if GG Poker you know, comes out
Speaker 1: with you know, we've qualified x hundred players, you know,
Speaker 1: all this sort of stuff, if they if they take
Speaker 1: you know, kind of stealing from what the PSBC did,
Speaker 1: what Poker Stars did with that event, you know, really
Speaker 1: really putting those qualifiers in the spot like where you
Speaker 1: saw like you know, some random guy from a random
Speaker 1: casino is playing his first tournament buying over two hundred dollars, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, they put that stuff out there, and like
Speaker 1: they kept doing it, and they did it with like
Speaker 1: three hundred qualifiers that that draws in the pros, right.
Speaker 1: I think it was a couple of our PGT players
Speaker 1: who basically said, like, you know, for every one amateur
Speaker 1: slash recreational qualifier type player who like doesn't belong in
Speaker 1: these high roller fields, it draws in like six to
Speaker 1: seven pros. Like that's how they kind of equated, you know.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, if they really go gangbusters with like
Speaker 1: putting it out there, who are these qualifiers are? How
Speaker 1: they got in? Like this guy won for one dollar,
Speaker 1: you know, he normally plays you know, one dollar flipping
Speaker 1: gos on GG poker, blah blah blah, like this is
Speaker 1: his story here he is like, you know, put him
Speaker 1: out there like that really starts to invite you know,
Speaker 1: the sharks to come feast on the minnows down there
Speaker 1: in the Bahamas. So I'm interested to see how that
Speaker 1: marketing element plays out. I'm always very like I mean,
Speaker 1: I do a lot of marketing within the industry, and
Speaker 1: I am always drawn to like what other places are
Speaker 1: doing with their marketing. So I'm very interested to how
Speaker 1: they're going to approach that. So looking forward to that,
Speaker 1: I have one question for you, sir, Where does phil
Speaker 1: Ivy go? Does he go with his Triton boys or
Speaker 1: does he go with the WPT overlords. Where does he
Speaker 1: go in December?
Speaker 2: Buddy? He does both? I think he confidently does both.
Speaker 1: If you're WPT, don't you have to force him to
Speaker 1: stay in Vegas? But we know how that goes.
Speaker 2: Send me the contract, let me read it. See if
Speaker 2: that's even part of the contract. I doubt it is.
Speaker 2: Ivy Chase process all summer. I think he'll do it again,
Speaker 2: and obviously he has. He's trying boys so he'll be
Speaker 2: in Bahamas and then you'll see him play like two events,
Speaker 2: three events.
Speaker 1: Yes, So if he's going to Bahamas, which I also
Speaker 1: agree that he's going to go to the Bahamas, you're
Speaker 1: getting ivy. You're for sure getting hellmuth. You're getting to
Speaker 1: grow on you. How is WPT winning December? How what
Speaker 1: are they going to do? Let's wait for the schedule,
Speaker 1: have another marching on the breaks of the tournament.
Speaker 2: They lose points for that. Like, I bet we see
Speaker 2: the biggest win field, whatever last year's number was, we
Speaker 2: top it this year.
Speaker 1: Well, the biggest win field is the WPT Prime.
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm saying that whatever we had last year,
Speaker 2: I think we beat I bet you we see another
Speaker 2: massive prime event bigger than last year. And if if
Speaker 2: the guys over at the wind Slash WPT make a
Speaker 2: good enough schedule, you know, with some really good events,
Speaker 2: I bet you we see massive fields in those two.
Speaker 2: I'm bullish on the wind being just in people's backyards
Speaker 2: and not having I agree.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're in my backyard, you know. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try and play stuff at the wind you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I obviously have other reasons why I
Speaker 1: can't go to the Bahamas. I mean, I'm not taking
Speaker 1: my whole family there. It's just too expensive, you know,
Speaker 1: playing these types of buy ins, et cetera. It's just
Speaker 1: difficult for me, right, you know, I'd rather just go
Speaker 1: to the win. Yes, I think in my shoes. And
Speaker 1: this might be something where if people are on the fence,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe they consider this to some degree.
Speaker 1: But like having been to the Bahamas so often with
Speaker 1: the PCA over the years, like I don't it's not
Speaker 1: a draw just to go to this destination, Like the
Speaker 1: destination isn't a draw for me, which which is is fine.
Speaker 1: You know. I think a lot of people out there
Speaker 1: will enjoy going to the Bahamas. They get out of
Speaker 1: bad weather, all that sort of stuff. I totally get it,
Speaker 1: you know, just for me having been there, like the
Speaker 1: destination itself doesn't sell anymore. So I'm just curious. I
Speaker 1: guess if there's a lot of other players out there
Speaker 1: because the win is now like the premiere poker destination.
Speaker 1: Like you go, you play at the Win, the property
Speaker 1: is absolutely incredible, you know, it's just it's top notch
Speaker 1: playing there. It's it's amazing. It's you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, which I think a lot of people like,
Speaker 1: but it's also like it's at the end of the strip,
Speaker 1: so you're not like jam packed in the middle. You know,
Speaker 1: it's at this particular event WPT at the Win is
Speaker 1: in December when the weather isn't you know, one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifteen degrees outside, which I think also people like.
Speaker 1: So so that is a big selling point for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Of course, money talks at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, so you know, fifty million dollars guaranteed,
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of people that
Speaker 1: travel down there. I just if I'm if I'm WPT
Speaker 1: and I'm the win, I'm very much going within every
Speaker 1: man focus, meaning I'm catering to I'm catering my schedule
Speaker 1: to the population of poker players that play four and
Speaker 1: a dollar to five thousand dollars tournaments. I'm packing my
Speaker 1: schedule with that sort of stuff, probably keeping the five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars price point pretty selective. And then I just
Speaker 1: have the ten thousand dollars main the world the World Championship.
Speaker 1: You know, I really push the accessibility, I push the
Speaker 1: everyman I try and pump out, you know, massive massive
Speaker 1: fields you mentioned, you know, having the largest field at
Speaker 1: the win ever, you know, trying to do stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, have like a massive six hundred dollars opener,
Speaker 1: which they did in the past, but like bumping up
Speaker 1: the guarantee for that, you know, bumping up the guarantee
Speaker 1: for the one thousand dollars WPT Prime Championship, stuff like that,
Speaker 1: you know, and then just probably doing something that like
Speaker 1: filters people into the ten k. You know, I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of people that come out
Speaker 1: for that price point that whether they win money or not,
Speaker 1: you know, sell some action, all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: They kind of take their shot in the World Championship
Speaker 1: for ten k, and it's it's a bit more palatable,
Speaker 1: it's a bit more accessible to go that route. I
Speaker 1: would I would almost just entirely scrap high rollers, Like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do anything above five thousand dollars except for
Speaker 1: the WPT World Championship.
Speaker 2: You still need to do the alpha stuff, but you
Speaker 2: do it at the very back of the schedule because
Speaker 2: you want to you want any centimize people to come
Speaker 2: from Mohamas to play the ten k, Like how do
Speaker 2: I get author Materrosen to come and Makita Beziakowski come
Speaker 2: play the ten k and then we have a twenty
Speaker 2: five and one hundred like on the off days. That's
Speaker 2: how you get them to come.
Speaker 1: I mean, why why do you need them to come?
Speaker 2: You don't bet like I think you should offer it anyway,
Speaker 2: it's going to fill up. They had good numbers lost
Speaker 2: here in those ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but last year you weren't going up against the
Speaker 1: WPG paradise.
Speaker 2: It is ended by then at the end.
Speaker 1: It seems like a natural fit to me to partner
Speaker 1: with the PGT to some extent. I should just say
Speaker 1: av Poker and Triton Poker and Triton are all in
Speaker 1: bed over there. You know, maybe we do some PGT
Speaker 1: events at the win, you know, entice our players to
Speaker 1: get in there, chase some points.
Speaker 2: You know, you have my number, Adam, You're probably not, but.
Speaker 1: Just call your your country made over there and let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go get Savage on the horn. Have you just
Speaker 1: had him on the podcast of the day? I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, yeah, I mean that's that's what I would do,
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm not a fan of what they've done.
Speaker 1: With with Alpha eight, I think they need to scrap
Speaker 1: the brand or put it back to what it was.
Speaker 2: So I like the name. I just yeah, the name
Speaker 2: is good.
Speaker 1: The branding was good, The idea I think was good.
Speaker 1: But like trying they're basically trying to take that brand
Speaker 1: and then shoehorn it into now like twenty five k's
Speaker 1: and stuff like just have everything be WPT like a
Speaker 1: WPT high roller. Why can't it just be a WPT
Speaker 1: high roller? Like what you know? Why has it got
Speaker 1: to be a trifecta, quadruple, quintupled alpha eight, Like I
Speaker 1: don't think it's just really confusing to me. I mean
Speaker 1: another option that that I don't think is on the
Speaker 1: table at this I don't know. Now that I say
Speaker 1: that it is August thirteenth, but move to January question mark, Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean right like yes, I mean that obviously has
Speaker 1: to probably do with like we know. I mean, at
Speaker 1: least I know because my wife works in the casino industry.
Speaker 1: I know how these things work. We've been around the
Speaker 1: industry for long enough that convention space and and the
Speaker 1: amount of convention space that they need for an event
Speaker 1: like this at the wind is not easy to come by,
Speaker 1: and this stuff gets booked out long in advance, so
Speaker 1: like I'm sure they can't just call up the win
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, we want to move to January
Speaker 1: and when it's like, ah, funny, we've been booked for
Speaker 1: three years in January. You know, like like that's just
Speaker 1: so that's the hard part there.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is this is the lost year of
Speaker 2: the deal, right, so maybe they actually have a plan
Speaker 2: to move to January.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is three years, three years.
Speaker 2: Maybe they have a plan to move to January and
Speaker 2: they already have that space bookvill twenty twenty sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be interesting also now that you bring that up,
Speaker 1: because yeah, it is they I remember they announced a
Speaker 1: three year deal that whatever happens this year I think
Speaker 1: points to like where the relationship is going to go
Speaker 1: going forward. Meaning if they scale back and do like,
Speaker 1: let's say a twenty five million dollar guarantee, that that
Speaker 1: might be like you know, they're kind of just cutting
Speaker 1: their losses in in a way, being like, hey, let's
Speaker 1: put out a guarantee that's big that we can hit
Speaker 1: not cost any money, and then maybe this relationship doesn't
Speaker 1: go any further. But if they come out with another banger,
Speaker 1: like you know you mentioned do forty again. Then it's
Speaker 1: pretty clear to me that this relationship is going forward. Right,
Speaker 1: So maybe I'm reading a little bit too in the
Speaker 1: lines there, but but listen, the WPT World Championship schedule
Speaker 1: has not come out yet. I've been asking them many times,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of where's the schedule, where's the schedule,
Speaker 1: where's the schedule? So we'll see. I'm assuming it's going
Speaker 1: to drop. I think it's going to drop this month.
Speaker 1: I don't know when. And then once that happens, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it a lot. Maybe we'll even get
Speaker 1: Matt Savage back on to discuss it. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be very interested to kind of put WSP Paradise and
Speaker 1: ws AP World Championship Schedule is basically by side and
Speaker 1: be like, okay, like you know, what can we expect here,
Speaker 1: Like who kind of won this event that event? You know,
Speaker 1: what are the what are the overall vibes that we're getting,
Speaker 1: Like is WPT going to lean into the every man
Speaker 1: accessibility stuff or are they just going to try and
Speaker 1: really go head to head with what WSP is doing.
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, right, we don't know yet because
Speaker 1: the schedule is not out, so so let's see and
Speaker 1: let's see how it goes. Moving on, we got to
Speaker 1: hit on Scott Sever winning WSOP Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: Of course many of you listening tuned in to our
Speaker 1: daily WSOP shows. Sever won three gold bracelets three not
Speaker 1: many people have done that. He now has seven total bracelets.
Speaker 1: Not many people have gotten to that amount either. Four
Speaker 1: four hundred and three POY points for sever Michael Rocco
Speaker 1: closed out the w so P strong. He won the
Speaker 1: what ten K six max events in the final days.
Speaker 1: He ended up finishing in second place with threey eight
Speaker 1: hundred and three points. Jeremy Osmas, who made seven final tables,
Speaker 1: ultimately did not win a bracelet, but had many deep runs.
Speaker 1: He had three thousand, six hundred and eighty six points.
Speaker 1: Interesting just about the top three quickly is that I
Speaker 1: think many people probably assume that Ozma's finished second just
Speaker 1: because of the way that it was the race that
Speaker 1: was happening between him and Stever, everything that was talked
Speaker 1: about with Ozmas, how many final tables he made, all
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, But it was actually Michael Rocco
Speaker 1: who had a pretty damn good wsop overall, I do
Speaker 1: want to hit on kind of some honorable mentions, but
Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a second, just after we
Speaker 1: get done talking about some more sever stuff. He'll turn
Speaker 1: forty in April. So I know we had this conversation before.
Speaker 1: Is he going to get in the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: He has three seven total, he has a WPT title.
Speaker 1: Obviously high stakes cash is there. You know we talked
Speaker 1: about all this sort of stuff before where it's like
Speaker 1: now sever enters that that conversation, So is he going
Speaker 1: to get in? Does he get in right away? Like
Speaker 1: all the who's He's well, Jeremy Osmas number one?
Speaker 2: Who else?
Speaker 1: Josh, Josh Harrier, Nick Shulman. Remember remember the conversation we had,
Speaker 1: we had sever or Shulman?
Speaker 2: All Right, you know what if we would have if
Speaker 2: we would have voted now, who.
Speaker 1: Are the finalists this year? Madam? Yeah, so I mean
Speaker 1: they're they're likely, They're not that they're likely to be
Speaker 1: back as finalists, but they'll be top of mind. Osmas
Speaker 1: wasn't a finalist this year.
Speaker 2: Here's my take. Ready, if we voted now, Siva would
Speaker 2: get in.
Speaker 1: But recency bias, yes, but.
Speaker 2: We have WSP Europe. We have WSB Paradise, we have
Speaker 2: WSP Vegas, we have one hundred and forty five. Actually,
Speaker 2: we have one hundred, nearly two hundred more bracelet events
Speaker 2: between now and when you cost your vote. Shulman could
Speaker 2: rip off three bracelets. Osmus could rip off three braces,
Speaker 2: Aria could rip off three braces. Civa could win another three.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot that can happen in the next
Speaker 2: two hundred bracelet events before the current Living Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame members need to vote. So yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 2: still very open. I think it's Siva if it was today,
Speaker 2: but it could be any number of people, you know,
Speaker 2: in two hundred bracelets time. I know it's a soft
Speaker 2: answer to it. I think we have to realize the situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, listen, I tend to agree with you. I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at the list of finalists for this year.
Speaker 1: Of course, Patrick Antonio has got in and we're going
Speaker 1: to hit on that next. But josh Ari on there,
Speaker 1: We mentioned him, Barney Bobman was on there, Miami, John Sernudo,
Speaker 1: Ted Forrest, Kathy Lieber, Mike mattis Ow, matt' savage, is
Speaker 1: Hei Shinberg, Bill Smith. So some, if not all, will
Speaker 1: you know, make it back next next year? You know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of how they carry over. But Armie Ostmas
Speaker 1: isn't on there. Nick Shulman, I believe will be forty,
Speaker 1: so he'll likely make this list.
Speaker 2: He turns for there was a list going out of
Speaker 2: like who turns forty next year? Well, we should, we should.
Speaker 2: I was actually going to create something. I just haven't
Speaker 2: had a chance.
Speaker 1: But so Phil Galfond is currently thirty nine years old.
Speaker 1: This is according to Wikipedia and January sixteenth, So.
Speaker 2: I don't know when missed forty. Like I didn't understand
Speaker 2: that part.
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't it when they say, hey, we're voting,
Speaker 1: then you have to be forty?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, is that? But like to your point is
Speaker 1: that May first? Is that June first? Is that July first?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: You know, like what's but Galfon should be in there?
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, who do you think is the favorite right now?
Speaker 2: I have no he Man, I mean seven Shulman is
Speaker 2: a lot closer than you think.
Speaker 1: No, I and I think we recently talked about that
Speaker 1: during one of the episodes when I when I brought
Speaker 1: it up during the World Series of Poker, because I mean,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of similarities there, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot a lot of bracelets. Both have a WPT title,
Speaker 1: sever does win in the bracelet category. Both have played
Speaker 1: high stakes cash, right, I mean, I think I think
Speaker 1: nowadays sever plays more high stakes cash than Shulman does.
Speaker 1: Shulman is like kind of fully in at least from
Speaker 1: what I can tell on the tournament grind. But in
Speaker 1: that regard, like you know, Shulman's got a Triton title,
Speaker 1: Shulman's got PGT titles, et cetera. Like Sever is a
Speaker 1: little bit more void in that area. So how do
Speaker 1: people wait that sort of stuff? Then? Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: because it's voted on by the living Hall of famers, Right,
Speaker 1: So how much of how much of Shulman being out
Speaker 1: there as a commentator and as good of a commentator
Speaker 1: I see? Is like how much does that weigh in
Speaker 1: their mind? How much does the popularity aspect weigh in
Speaker 1: their mind? Right? So I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, pocularity is the biggest, the most underrated waiting
Speaker 2: in all this voting, and it shouldn't be, but I
Speaker 2: think it actually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I think popularity has trumped at times,
Speaker 1: even most recently, Patrick Antoni is getting in like I
Speaker 1: would have I wouldn't. I do think he's popular, yes,
Speaker 1: but I would have thought that maybe josh Arie got
Speaker 1: in because he's I think I think he's more out
Speaker 1: there in the spotlight, et cetera. And going back to
Speaker 1: when popular, when David Oppenheim got in.
Speaker 2: There he's super Oppenheim would be super popular, yes, popular,
Speaker 2: but like not, he's not in the forefront of everyone's mind.
Speaker 2: So like when you say everyone, do you mean the
Speaker 2: voters or do you mean the public?
Speaker 1: Well, I think public perception might play into some voters' minds,
Speaker 1: is what I'm getting.
Speaker 2: If you don't think I think it's all like who
Speaker 2: do I want in my my my boys club?
Speaker 1: I disagree with you and I have well I won't.
Speaker 1: I won't name names, but people have asked us. People
Speaker 1: have asked us who they should vote for. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is public. That is not them thinking of their
Speaker 1: own stuff like that is them, like you know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: what are the arguments for this person of that person? Whatever?
Speaker 2: Like that is say Matt Savage every time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I always say side, but I have also
Speaker 1: said for a long time. You do say, yeah, I
Speaker 1: see I I also say, Patrick Antonius, I guess, I
Speaker 1: guess just a thought that popped in my mind. Does
Speaker 1: anything change in regard to the Poker Hall Fame now
Speaker 1: that GG Poker owns the b possibly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean do they.
Speaker 1: Have more people get in there?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: You know, how how does like do they even address it?
Speaker 1: Does it just carry definitely.
Speaker 2: Needs like a like a commissioner or something, and it
Speaker 2: needs it does need a shake up. Maybe that's adding
Speaker 2: more people. Maybe that's changing the requirements, like it's forty
Speaker 2: two young. I would say maybe yes, But I guess
Speaker 2: we'll leave it up to them. You know, if I
Speaker 2: was a betting man, I'd probably say nothing would change.
Speaker 1: I've always thought, and I think I think you and
Speaker 1: I might have talked about this. If not, I think
Speaker 1: you'll agree. But at the live version of the WSP
Speaker 1: in the summer, I've always thought there should be a room,
Speaker 1: a section, a hallway, whatever it is that's basically the
Speaker 1: basically a museum largely about like the Poker Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame have a bunch of busts. There have nice displays
Speaker 1: with photos and then paragraphs underneath where people can like
Speaker 1: walk through like you walk through in a museum and
Speaker 1: you say, okay, hey, this is so and so this
Speaker 1: is the history here. You know, I'm gonna move on,
Speaker 1: like almost like a whole little room that people could
Speaker 1: enter and just that was it. There was a path
Speaker 1: to walk you know, there was various exhibits. I know
Speaker 1: that that's me probably in my whole pipe dream mentality,
Speaker 1: but like I think that there is so much rich,
Speaker 1: rich history as it pertains to poker and then specifically
Speaker 1: the WSP that you could have that sort of thing
Speaker 1: as a big exhibit at the World Series of Poker.
Speaker 2: And we have it. We have it at the Poker room,
Speaker 2: pictures on the wall. What's funny you say? That is
Speaker 2: actually I discussed with that, you know.
Speaker 1: But that would be wouldn't that be a cool exhibit?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I as you know, I've been collecting things
Speaker 2: in case something like this happens. I have it in
Speaker 2: a box at the office, he stored away, ready to
Speaker 2: pull out if needed. But my I had a grand envision,
Speaker 2: a grand plan once to actually convert some of our set,
Speaker 2: like you know, the say the outside of that table
Speaker 2: be like the back of the stand where people you know,
Speaker 2: where there's nothing. Turn that into like some kind of
Speaker 2: hall of fame display. You remember back at the Rio
Speaker 2: in the Brazilian room where there was when we had
Speaker 2: the bracelets in the little plexiglass boxes and they were Yeah,
Speaker 2: so take that concept, but for hall of fame stuff.
Speaker 2: So I could put hypothetically, let's talk about some of
Speaker 2: the cool stuff I have. You know, you know Doyle
Speaker 2: Ronson's last seat ticket that he ever played. You could
Speaker 2: put that in a box, little story about it. You
Speaker 2: could take negran Who's signed button from his fifty k
Speaker 2: in put it there. You could talk to You could
Speaker 2: talk to Matt Waxman and ask him would you want
Speaker 2: to donate your bracelet for for the six weeks, so
Speaker 2: you get people to donate stuff just for the exhibit.
Speaker 1: While also that would be just quickly that would be
Speaker 1: like one cool exhibit portion is like the bracelet over
Speaker 1: the years, Yeah, like the first one, the second one.
Speaker 1: Like people can like literally walk down and be like,
Speaker 1: oh this is when it changed to this is when
Speaker 1: it like that would be still.
Speaker 2: Do stuff like that, and like I would build it
Speaker 2: into the set, but you know, I mean spending a
Speaker 2: lot of this money on the set, do we we
Speaker 2: don't own the Hall of Fame, so we're kind of
Speaker 2: stealing the idea, you know, are going to rob people
Speaker 2: the wrong way. So we never did it this year,
Speaker 2: but like it was always, it was discussed internally very
Speaker 2: so for a very limited amount of time.
Speaker 1: A little bit of a side story, but this is
Speaker 1: kind of about this in a way. So when the
Speaker 1: when the World Poker Tour first was going to have
Speaker 1: the final tables at the big Esports Arena at Luxor,
Speaker 1: I was working with the World Poker Tour at the time,
Speaker 1: and one of my big pitches was that have you
Speaker 1: have you been in that arena the hyper x Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So, like you walk in, there's like the first little
Speaker 1: area where there's some gamings off, there's like some you know,
Speaker 1: there's basically like a check in desk, et cetera. And
Speaker 1: then you go kind of down like a little hallway.
Speaker 1: There's double doors that opens up to like this what
Speaker 1: is it like a little it's like a little it's
Speaker 1: like a little rotunda area, you know, with like an
Speaker 1: elevated ceiling. There's actually a balcony up top where people
Speaker 1: people that are up top on the second floor can
Speaker 1: look down and then there's like another hallway and then
Speaker 1: like all this basically leads into like the big arena. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my vision that I pitched was to create like once
Speaker 1: you hit, like once you get past the checking desk
Speaker 1: and hit these like double doors basically create the history
Speaker 1: of the World Poker Tour as you walk from the
Speaker 1: check in desk all the way into the arena and
Speaker 1: then like you know and like that, so like as
Speaker 1: you're entering, whether you're a player or a fan, like
Speaker 1: you just start really getting that vibe, that energy, like
Speaker 1: you feel the history building, and then it culminates with
Speaker 1: you going into the arena and either playing or watching
Speaker 1: that final table. Same sort of thing like I could
Speaker 1: see for the WSP, Like you walk into like where
Speaker 1: the final table stage area is, and like it's you know,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a walkway or a path where you
Speaker 1: can go where you can see the the different exhibits.
Speaker 1: You can you can pause and you can you know
Speaker 1: be like oh, hey, like this is this is Doyle
Speaker 1: Brunson's like first win, this is the winnerfold, like this
Speaker 1: is that this is like all that sort of stuff
Speaker 1: I think would be pretty dope. So yeah, so now
Speaker 1: that now that gg Poker owns it up. See Michael Kim,
Speaker 1: if you're listening, he's want you want this idea, you
Speaker 1: can come to Tim and I and we will happily
Speaker 1: put it together for you. All right. So anyway back
Speaker 1: to that, because we are off tangent Scott seever, so
Speaker 1: he'll turn forty in April. We talked about that, We
Speaker 1: talked about his time to get into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I think he will eventually get into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if it'll be next year first year,
Speaker 1: because yeah, but seven WSP bracelets for him now, he
Speaker 1: won three this year, one WPT title. He's got almost
Speaker 1: twenty seven million dollars in live tournament earnings, high stakes cash.
Speaker 1: He certainly has stood the test of time. I think
Speaker 1: he's respected by his peers for sure. So I've another
Speaker 1: question about Scott sever And I heard someone make a
Speaker 1: comment to me recently. I forget who it was exactly,
Speaker 1: but the comment was about twenty five K fantasy and
Speaker 1: how much sever will go for next year. And my thought,
Speaker 1: initially without having any information right now, is so let
Speaker 1: me see he went for thirty seven dollars this year,
Speaker 1: which based on his performance, three hundred and thirty four
Speaker 1: points the third highest point getter is a criminal underspend.
Speaker 1: But if he goes for what eighty ninety dollars next year,
Speaker 1: do we know Scott Severs going to play a full
Speaker 1: schedule this year? We knew, Yes, we knew ish so quickly.
Speaker 1: Just one reason why, like we weren't in on Scott's
Speaker 1: sever even though he had put out there that he's
Speaker 1: going to be gunning for, is that we drafted him
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He actually won the was
Speaker 1: it the twenty five hundred dollars tournament early in the summer,
Speaker 1: and he told us he was going full on for
Speaker 1: the whole series, and he, you know, he basically won
Speaker 1: that tournament early and then kind of went back to
Speaker 1: cash games. So we were just like, you know, how
Speaker 1: much how much is he really going to go? Right,
Speaker 1: even if he says it's he really going to go
Speaker 1: full on, because it's a freaking grind, we all know that, right. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he went the whole thing, He went to the wall,
Speaker 1: he went all out, and he won three bracelets and
Speaker 1: he won fasby Player of the Year. So are we
Speaker 1: going to get WSP Player of the Year contending Scott
Speaker 1: sever next year, bracelet bets all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Scott sever next year or are we not? If we're not,
Speaker 1: he should not go for ninety dollars, right, and then
Speaker 1: somebody will vastly overpay if he's just if he was like,
Speaker 1: this is the year, I'm all in, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: this thing. I'm going to dedicate myself to these tournaments.
Speaker 1: I did it, I achieved it. I got the Player
Speaker 1: of the Year banner. You know, great, Now I'm going
Speaker 1: to go back to playing high stakes cash when the
Speaker 1: cash games are crazy during the summer, and yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: pop in here and there. And not that Sever shouldn't
Speaker 1: be drafted, because he should, you know, It's just it's
Speaker 1: a volume game at that point. So I just going
Speaker 1: into next year, I would probably wonder if he's going
Speaker 1: to be overvalued or undervalued just based on what we
Speaker 1: can expect from him. So would you expect Sever to
Speaker 1: go like all out like he did this year again
Speaker 1: next year or maybe in the next like three years.
Speaker 2: Let's say, I mean he made a commitment to do
Speaker 2: this this year, he had some bets. We have to
Speaker 2: just know that he's doing this next year or not.
Speaker 2: He may be the him and Jason Mercier may be
Speaker 2: the peak. The number one drop picks in unreliability when
Speaker 2: it comes to WSP because they will play cash and
Speaker 2: NonStop like they don't care that much unless they actually care,
Speaker 2: and that means like bets or side bets or whatever
Speaker 2: they have. So yeah, if I was drafting Siva, I
Speaker 2: would people, hey, hey, buddy, what's the plan this year?
Speaker 2: Like I need to know, because yeah, he could be
Speaker 2: worth one hundred and twelve dollars or we had twelve dollars.
Speaker 1: Had that plan before and he even like he told
Speaker 1: us he was all in.
Speaker 2: But I need to know the bets. I need to
Speaker 2: know how much he has in play. I don't care
Speaker 2: like I need to know your dollar, your net worth,
Speaker 2: spend percentage allocated to bracelet bets with Texas mic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's tricky, and you're not always gonna
Speaker 1: get honest answers or the full answers you know that
Speaker 1: you need, so then it makes things a bit tricky.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say that right now, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: be the same Scott sever that we saw this year
Speaker 1: in terms of volume. Of course, when he shows up
Speaker 1: Scott Severs as one of the best players in any
Speaker 1: field that he plays. You know, don't get me wrong there,
Speaker 1: But from a volume perspective, I'm gonna say that this
Speaker 1: was more of a one and done type of thing. Also, like,
Speaker 1: are people going to be lining up to bet Scott
Speaker 1: sever after he just achieved what he achieved?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's like they got burned and they're out.
Speaker 2: I can't repeat it, though, Yeah, but you can't repeat that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I wouldn't. I wouldn't bet against
Speaker 1: Scott's sever in repeating it. So he might, you know,
Speaker 1: he might be surprise next year in fantasy where like
Speaker 1: somebody gets him for one hundred dollars and then you
Speaker 1: know he ends up playing only like twenty events and
Speaker 1: everyone like that that team is pissed, right, you know.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, that's just a tricky spot there. Anyway,
Speaker 1: moving on to Patrick Antonius, he was inducted into the
Speaker 1: Poker Hall of Fame, in my opinion, in extremely deserving inductee.
Speaker 1: Happy to see Patrick Antonius, one of the absolute legends,
Speaker 1: one of the absolute goats in poker, getting into the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I think twenty twenty was the first
Speaker 1: year that he was eligible, and as far as I'm concerning,
Speaker 1: he should have been nominated or in a finalist every
Speaker 1: single year. I don't know if he was exactly, but
Speaker 1: should have been. And yeah, I've always thought Patrick Antonia
Speaker 1: should get it, get in. So it's good to see
Speaker 1: him get in. I think he was very happy, very
Speaker 1: thrilled about being able to get in. You know, it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where in a way it's it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's great to see that your peers, you know,
Speaker 1: these fellow Hall of Famers were affect you in that
Speaker 1: light to put you into this very elite club of people. Also,
Speaker 1: you know, on the Hall of Fame front, you know,
Speaker 1: there's not many Europeans in there, so getting another European
Speaker 1: and then Patrick Antonia's being a finished getting him in
Speaker 1: there as well. He doesn't have the tournament resume that
Speaker 1: a lot of others have, you know, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: all the bracelets, the WPT titles, all this sort of stuff, right,
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's been playing a lot of the
Speaker 1: Triton stuff of course, but Antonia's mainly plays cash games,
Speaker 1: and in that regard, he's as far as I can
Speaker 1: tell still an absolute beast plays the highest stakes around,
Speaker 1: you know, all summer long he's playing four thousand, eight thousand,
Speaker 1: three thousand and six thousand and five, ten whatever the
Speaker 1: heck it may be. And then just recently he was
Speaker 1: at that Triton Cash game festival playing you know, one thousand,
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, two five. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was, pulling these savage bluffs with ten high, like
Speaker 1: just absolute banana's goat shit from Patrick Antonio. So it's
Speaker 1: good to see him in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: What say you? Yeah, I just checked the Finland all
Speaker 2: time money list. He's on top. I wouldn't have actually
Speaker 2: expect to be. He's crushing it well, I mean on
Speaker 2: top by so much, just twenty three million. The next
Speaker 2: up you high helping nine million. I didn't think it
Speaker 2: would be such a big I think on the.
Speaker 1: Big scores in the recent years, with all.
Speaker 2: The trades, yeah over the Trent and stuff. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: think we said during the series that he was going
Speaker 2: to get in. I was basing that all on popularity
Speaker 2: and the cash game side of things. Very worthy to
Speaker 2: get in. Good just you know, you made a really
Speaker 2: good point. Good to see European get in, trying get
Speaker 2: rid of these the heaviness of American players in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: But well, Americans are just the best poker players. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're I don't know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Disagree absolutely, okay.
Speaker 2: But no, I mean I got no problems with it.
Speaker 2: I would have still liked to see some others get in.
Speaker 2: We should have more people getting in, but that's up
Speaker 2: for another day, all right.
Speaker 1: So congratulations to Patrick Antonius for getting in there. Poker
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Now, I love to see it. I
Speaker 1: wish he would play more tournaments like WSP stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: because I think he would. He could put up some
Speaker 1: numbers there. But of course for him, it's all about
Speaker 1: crushing the cash games and he certainly.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see him next week, maybe.
Speaker 1: I would guess he might.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Would he go down to Bahamas Paradise.
Speaker 2: Possibly if there's games on boats they remember.
Speaker 1: Yes, trust me, I do remember. All right, you mentioned
Speaker 1: might see him next week. That would be for Super
Speaker 1: High Roller Series, slash Bowl Slash Bowl Series.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what it's it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: called I don't know the official name, but yeah, so
Speaker 1: Super high Roller series is kicking off in a few
Speaker 1: days that is capped off by the Super high Roller Bowl.
Speaker 1: I expect numbers to be pretty big overall. I think
Speaker 1: you an article the other day that said sixty players
Speaker 1: are more than sixty players.
Speaker 2: Sixty three confirmed players for the series though, right, not
Speaker 2: for the series, sorry, not for the ball for the
Speaker 2: series that includes some PLO only players. Obviously, people may
Speaker 2: have dropped out, people may have added, you know, had
Speaker 2: some players reach out to me the same. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I might go now, so I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think sixty two was sixty three was much better than
Speaker 2: I thought heading into this. The key here is that
Speaker 2: all the events are freeze outs at this stage, so
Speaker 2: that you know, we're not going to.
Speaker 1: Have a stage putting that in there for sure because
Speaker 1: it might change.
Speaker 2: Is that why? Well, we have two mystery bounties that
Speaker 2: are freeze outs, and that doesn't make any sense to me,
Speaker 2: and I feel like they may change other day. But yeah,
Speaker 2: they're all freeze out events, so that does help. I
Speaker 2: guess the quote unquote whales feel a bit more comfortable
Speaker 2: playing these big of my own events and does it.
Speaker 2: I think so. On that list, I saw a lot
Speaker 2: of names. I had no idea who they were.
Speaker 1: Okay, but did you like, I like, did you look
Speaker 1: at those names? Compare them to a trading list, because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that play Tritons that I
Speaker 1: have no idea who they are, and they're in there
Speaker 1: blasting and they can put as many bolts as they
Speaker 1: want those things.
Speaker 2: Look, I mean, I'm just make it one re entry
Speaker 2: if anything. But this is what they want to do,
Speaker 2: so we'll we'll support it, and we'll see how it goes,
Speaker 2: see what the players think, and you know, who knows,
Speaker 2: see what the numbers are. Maybe we get some people
Speaker 2: trickling in closer to the three hundred k buying and
Speaker 2: firing that and they also the hundred k before it.
Speaker 1: Was Tony G on your list.
Speaker 2: I think I'm at liberty to say who's on the
Speaker 2: list unless they gave me the okay to say that they're.
Speaker 1: On only because on the Trading Cash Game Festival, Cypress
Speaker 1: was brought up with Cypress is where this series and
Speaker 1: Super highrollerbar are being held, and Tony G said that
Speaker 1: I think he said that he would come with Leon.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's Leon Supernecks. Oh yeah, they were talking
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe we get them in so.
Speaker 1: So, you know, could could be some people like that.
Speaker 1: I think at the time Ivy was in the game.
Speaker 2: Uh, Robert, I heard he's coming, but that he was
Speaker 2: not in the original list, but I did hear he's attending,
Speaker 2: so that's kind of exciting.
Speaker 1: I would think Ivy would be there. I would think
Speaker 1: Robber Young will probably be there.
Speaker 2: Where was the cash game Montenegro sh fly Away right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would guess we'll see a fair amount of the
Speaker 1: of the Triton guys. You know, I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: many of them will end up coming, but but we'll see.
Speaker 1: I I do think that it was it was probably
Speaker 1: the right move. I'm not probably. I think it was
Speaker 1: the right move to move super High Rollable out of
Speaker 1: the States. You know, maybe we lose it a couple
Speaker 1: of players that might have played here in the US,
Speaker 1: but it's just hard to run an event that size
Speaker 1: in the in the US given the current landscape. So
Speaker 1: I think these type of events, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: better served elsewhere in the world. And this Cypress destination
Speaker 1: nor Cypress at was it? Merrit Diamond Royal, I believe
Speaker 1: is the property. So Merritt has several properties, and I
Speaker 1: think this is the biggest and best, most luxurious one.
Speaker 2: Got it. I'm so confused, but I'm gonna figure it
Speaker 2: out once I got that.
Speaker 1: I went to one years ago with Mickey Doff. Shout
Speaker 1: out Mickey Doft when I think it was a WPT event,
Speaker 1: but like a full tilt event as well, like the
Speaker 1: WPT full tilt something, and it was at I want
Speaker 1: to say merrit Crystal Cove, which is one of their
Speaker 1: like lower scale properties, but still extremely nice like that,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Not to downplay how awesome that
Speaker 1: property was, because it was great. It was right on
Speaker 1: the water. You walk right out, you know you could,
Speaker 1: You're in the sand, you're swimming in the Mediterranean. Food
Speaker 1: was great, people were awesome, weather was awesome. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of fun there. So I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: jealous that you're you're getting to go to this one.
Speaker 2: It's tough. If it's tough, man, I'm flying in a
Speaker 2: die early. I got to die off. I'might have to
Speaker 2: take a boat out on the Mediterranean. Who work twelve days?
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Greece for three days, tourists
Speaker 2: fly back.
Speaker 1: What's on the schedule?
Speaker 2: All right, we're kicking it off with some hold them events.
Speaker 2: We're going to have as a little bit of a
Speaker 2: weird schedule. But there's three to twenty five ks eight max,
Speaker 2: then a seven max and a six max. Okay, we're
Speaker 2: going to do a fifty K seven max. We're gonna
Speaker 2: do one hundred K eight max. All these events two
Speaker 2: day events played down to a final table streaming the
Speaker 2: next day on Poker Go. Then we have a mystery bountie.
Speaker 1: By the way, shout out to about those streaming. I
Speaker 1: think it's Jeff and Brent on the commentary who we're
Speaker 1: going to be waking up at the ass crack of dawn,
Speaker 1: maybe even when it's still dark out because of the
Speaker 1: time difference, so.
Speaker 2: That no, it's not that early.
Speaker 1: Good luck, guys.
Speaker 2: What are you talking them?
Speaker 1: How early is it check in? How what's the time difference?
Speaker 2: Eight nine hours, eight am, eight am specific time.
Speaker 1: You think Jeff Platt wakes up at eight am, Brent
Speaker 1: for sure, because he's got kids. I get it.
Speaker 2: Jeff does chef's up early. By the way, these are
Speaker 2: actually the lay is like six hours anyway, after that,
Speaker 2: we have the three hundred k Super High Rollerball that's
Speaker 2: three days of poker streaming every day on poker Go.
Speaker 2: And then to conclude the series, it's not being streamed,
Speaker 2: but we have a twenty five KPLO, a fifty k
Speaker 2: PLO and then the twenty five k PLO Mystery Bounty.
Speaker 2: So lots of fun events. Ten events schedule, big, big, big,
Speaker 2: big prize money going to be awarded over in North Cyprus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's it's great, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think moving this event over to
Speaker 1: a different location outside of the US is the correct move.
Speaker 1: So gonna be big. Are there a lot of US
Speaker 1: PGT regulars heading over there to play?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Would you say?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you the two biggest names. Are you ready
Speaker 2: for this? Jeremy Osmas I saw he was selling action
Speaker 2: on poker Stage. Let me check you right, they're heading
Speaker 2: there real quick. On that, I know we're probably gonna
Speaker 2: so well. Yeah, they're the two big American PGT players
Speaker 2: that are heading over that currently rank fifth and sixth
Speaker 2: on the PGT leaderboard. Another name confirmed outside the top ten,
Speaker 2: thirteenth place, Santosh Suvanna is heading over. But yeah, Aram
Speaker 2: Osmas they're coming for I think they just one or
Speaker 2: two results, they'll be on top of the leaderboard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so just quickly. Both Aramzobian and Jeremy Osmas have
Speaker 1: action listed for this series on poker steak dot com,
Speaker 1: so you can get in there. Jeremy does have the
Speaker 1: Super High roller Bowl itself three hundred and six thousand
Speaker 1: dollars buying in total. He's got twenty five percent listed.
Speaker 1: He's sold just over half of that so far. So
Speaker 1: if you get in there before that event kicks off,
Speaker 1: you can get action of Jeremy Osmas. And based on
Speaker 1: the summer that he just had, why would you not have.
Speaker 2: He's definitely he's definitely due to finish third.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know he's also due to kind of
Speaker 1: win one of these things. Yeah, Jeremy has the Super
Speaker 1: High Rollable, the three hundred K. He also has a
Speaker 1: fifty K on there. He also has one hundred and
Speaker 1: two K on there as well, and then aram Zobian
Speaker 1: has a bunch of different events on there, a couple
Speaker 1: twenty five K bullets, fifty K bullet, and the hundred
Speaker 1: K is on there as well. So if you guys
Speaker 1: want to get action on those guys, then I would
Speaker 1: head on over to poker steak dot com. There's also
Speaker 1: some Poker Masters action that's starting to be listed. That's
Speaker 1: that's to come in September, so not too much on that.
Speaker 1: But again, if you want to action on some of
Speaker 1: these elite players, you can have on over to poker
Speaker 1: steak dot com. So the leaderboard for the PGT, you
Speaker 1: mentioned that if these guys have a big result, they
Speaker 1: could move to the top of the leaderboard. The leaderboard
Speaker 1: currently is Michael Rocco up on top eighteen hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty five points, follow followed by excuse me, Jonathan Tomayo,
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four WSP Main Event champion. He's got
Speaker 1: seventeen hundred and thirty points. Jesse Lonis is third seventeen
Speaker 1: hundred thirteen points, Daniel Negraanu sixteen hundred and sixty points,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Osmas is in fifth fourteen ninety nine. Then it's
Speaker 1: a Ramzobian in sixth, Dylan Wiseman in seventh, David Coleman eighth,
Speaker 1: Jordan Griff who finished second to Tomio, He's in ninth,
Speaker 1: and then Kristen Foxen is in tenth place.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could see a bunch of these names in
Speaker 1: the top ten heading over there. We're definitely gonna see Ozmas.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure on Jesse Lonis. I know he's in Florida.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe these guys get some pomo and yeah, get
Speaker 2: out of the horse.
Speaker 1: I would guess we see Dylan Wiseman. Do we see
Speaker 1: Dylan Wiseman?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think we will.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see Aram for sure. David Coleman, I would
Speaker 1: guess is going he No, he.
Speaker 2: Was out and then he was in, and then he
Speaker 2: was out and then he was back in. So I
Speaker 2: don't know what he's done.
Speaker 1: Well, he also usually puts action up on Poker Steak,
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming if.
Speaker 2: He's also skipping pokemases, I believe. I mean, why he's
Speaker 2: gone to Australia to play WBT fucking three K main
Speaker 2: event in Australia.
Speaker 1: Have fun with that.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the kangaroos, buddy.
Speaker 1: Will we see the Foxes? Do they travel the Europe?
Speaker 1: I think Have they played Triton events and stuff?
Speaker 2: Oh? Maybe, I don't know. I feel like we could
Speaker 2: see Victor blom well, yeah, like like he was not
Speaker 2: on the list. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I like, can we see Leana nine hundred? But he hasn't.
Speaker 1: He played some Triton stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, the the big fifty five on Stars
Speaker 2: is under way that day, so he well it's not
Speaker 2: w coop yet, So that's what I'm saying, Like, maybe
Speaker 2: he's just like I need to lock down the WOP.
Speaker 1: Well, we could get Victor Blom, like you said. And
Speaker 1: if we get Victor Blom, I'm guessing we get Michael
Speaker 1: Rocco because those two were like going to the hip
Speaker 1: during the diacopy hanging out together. You mentioned roommates. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you mentioned Santos, Brian Rass. Do we get him, He's
Speaker 1: a could Brian Kim. I think we'll get Brian Kim,
Speaker 1: Nick Seal Shulman.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about Shulman. He's
Speaker 1: he's a wild card as far as i'm.
Speaker 2: Big Hooney was in and then I think he's out now.
Speaker 1: But too much, too much club and for Big Hunie, he's.
Speaker 2: Got to prepare for the next July fourth party.
Speaker 1: Do we get Jared Blesnik No chance with the plow stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even with all the ship talking he was doing about
Speaker 1: the Nola and hold him, guys, he's not gone. We're
Speaker 1: definitely gonna get Adrian Matteo's I saw quote on him.
Speaker 1: I saw quotes from Ben Heath, phil Ivy. Our guess is, yes,
Speaker 1: we should get the Finns Elis and Yoni and whoever
Speaker 1: else there's.
Speaker 2: There's two Finns confirmed, Yoni and a guy that had
Speaker 2: never heard of Aku Nistu or something.
Speaker 1: He's he's a big finish Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: They were confirmed, but that's all I can remember seeing.
Speaker 1: What about Sammy Sippolo.
Speaker 2: Didn't see his name on the list, Jonas Cronwalder didn't
Speaker 2: see his name on the list. I would.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna get Sergio Aido. No,
Speaker 1: he's oh, he's in Okay, Yeah, he's just like a quote.
Speaker 1: He's been on like a freaking foodie tour.
Speaker 2: In preparation, in preparation for Cyprus.
Speaker 1: The ones that I'm wondering about are like these big
Speaker 1: trading guys, so like Danny Tang obviously Paul Fois, those
Speaker 1: types of guys. We're gonna we can get those guys
Speaker 1: to cross on over to to play this series. Or
Speaker 1: Jason Kohn, for example.
Speaker 2: Not sure. Yeah, those names were not on the list,
Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me. I mean, obviously I was looking at
Speaker 2: a list of reservations that were a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: so a lot can change in the last two weeks.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe we have one hundred people that are registered.
Speaker 2: So I guess we'll see once we Childwick kicked the
Speaker 2: tour off. Didn't see his name. I mean I would
Speaker 2: probably see Chidwick. We probably see Petangelos in. Yeah, we've
Speaker 2: probably in. We probably see Sean Winter, Seth Davis is in.
Speaker 2: Isaac Hackson. I can't remember saying his name, but I
Speaker 2: feel like he's one of the couple names that I
Speaker 2: would I feel like ik is someone that just I.
Speaker 1: Kind of I kind of lean that they're going to
Speaker 1: get in, even if they might not be on a
Speaker 1: list that you saw or whatever. It's feel like it,
Speaker 1: you know, in eric'sidell, I think is probably gonna come
Speaker 1: and yeah, we'll see. I mean, if if there's like
Speaker 1: Christoph Voegel saying, I think would certainly play, Ben Heath
Speaker 1: is a good one because obviously he doesn't come over
Speaker 1: to the States to play PGT events, you know, but
Speaker 1: he'll play a lot of the trit and stuff. He's
Speaker 1: obviously going to play this one. If we're getting Ben Heath,
Speaker 1: if we're getting Nick Pachangelo, I'm guessing we're getting Orpen
Speaker 1: Cogloo come over and play. So so yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good feel. Chris Brewer, we're gonna get him.
Speaker 2: I can't remember saying him made that.
Speaker 1: Actually, I would think we might get Brewer. I would
Speaker 1: think we would get not Cho Barbara, although I'm not
Speaker 1: really sure. What's interesting is that a lot a lot
Speaker 1: of these these players that we are either going to
Speaker 1: get for sure because we know, or we might get
Speaker 1: like like a Jeremy Osmas for example, he's never played
Speaker 1: super high rollable. Yeah, and a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: have not played super high rollable. Maybe maybe there's somebody
Speaker 1: like Jeremy who you know, is an American, right, and
Speaker 1: he just hasn't played in the States because it hasn't
Speaker 1: been something a tournament that he's viewed as valuable.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But now that it's it's over in Europe, the field
Speaker 1: is going to be much larger. Maybe he views it
Speaker 1: as a little bit softer, so he's going to take
Speaker 1: his shots. Sell the action. It obviously helps to win
Speaker 1: a boatload of money like he did at the World
Speaker 1: Series of Poker this year, of course, so he's going
Speaker 1: to make the jump to go play there, and then
Speaker 1: a lot of these other guys you know that that
Speaker 1: don't come over or at least previously haven't come over
Speaker 1: to the US to play the Super High rolevel when
Speaker 1: it was in the States, partly because of the laws
Speaker 1: and the taxes and all that sort of stuff being
Speaker 1: a hindrance. And then also just at the Super High
Speaker 1: Rollable in the State, it's given all of that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff is just it's harder to get a larger
Speaker 1: player pool. So because of that, you know, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot of those guys that will frequent all
Speaker 1: of the Trident stops, for example, come and then hopefully
Speaker 1: play this series, hopefully play the Super High Rollable. So
Speaker 1: I think that's that's really cool. I think we saw
Speaker 1: that a couple of years ago when we did the
Speaker 1: Super High Rollable Europe in Cyprus. You know, we did
Speaker 1: what was it two installments of that. You know, you
Speaker 1: saw a lot of guys that we wouldn't see for
Speaker 1: the regular Super High Rollable stuff. So I mean big picture, like,
Speaker 1: hopefully a lot of these guys get in there, they're
Speaker 1: able to bank a bunch of PGT points and then
Speaker 1: that then entices them to continue to chase that leaderboard
Speaker 1: standing so they can finish in the top forty and
Speaker 1: they can ultimately qualify for the million dollar free role.
Speaker 1: I would love to see that out of specifically phil Ivy,
Speaker 1: that's the one I want in the free roll, So
Speaker 1: let's go. He had some results of course at the
Speaker 1: World Series of Poker, he won a bracelet, So can
Speaker 1: we get phil Ivy in the free roll? Can we please?
Speaker 1: One time?
Speaker 2: Let's let's go.
Speaker 1: So after Super High Rollable Series, Slash Bowl, Slash Series Bowl,
Speaker 1: also the debut of the new Onyx Club. By the way,
Speaker 1: at the venue, we got Poker Masters coming up in September,
Speaker 1: that schedule is out and then recently announced we got
Speaker 1: the PGT Poo Series coming up in October. So it's
Speaker 1: a pretty jam pack. Yes, baby, let's go.
Speaker 2: Is this?
Speaker 1: Are we still the highest PLO tight now but our
Speaker 1: highest with tide for the highest But like Trenton didn't,
Speaker 1: didn't do one hundred and twenty five kre some right,
Speaker 1: not yet?
Speaker 2: Not yet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know not yet, you know, like I love
Speaker 1: the trade stuff and it's just a matter of time
Speaker 1: before it comes. But like I saw the WSP Paradise
Speaker 1: schedule has one hundred k PLO on it. I know
Speaker 1: Trenton did one as well. You're gonna have to raise
Speaker 1: it one oh five next.
Speaker 2: Year, come on one ten, let's go. No, I should
Speaker 2: just be WPT and make it two hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: five ks Weeks said.
Speaker 1: Let's go, baby, No, that's that's cool. That's coming down.
Speaker 1: The pipeline is there. I mean, I know we're still
Speaker 1: a couple of months away, but is there a lot
Speaker 1: of interest for that still, like, because that's a very
Speaker 1: specific player pool that you always talk to.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think there's interest now that it's out,
Speaker 2: and as we start approaching the timeline, I think we'll
Speaker 2: gather some I'm going to do a little bit of
Speaker 2: promotion while I'm inside press.
Speaker 1: You better be collecting emails, names, phone numbers.
Speaker 2: I'm going to I already plan it. I'm going to
Speaker 2: give them the schedules, BUD schedules, a letter for the
Speaker 2: ARIA wiring information, and then I'm going to write a
Speaker 2: personalized letter inviting them to come play. Better tell and
Speaker 2: give it to every everyone that plays the PLO.
Speaker 1: You better tell them whatut the free role? You better
Speaker 1: have everything in there.
Speaker 2: I've got it. I've got it. I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying my first radio.
Speaker 1: I'm just making sure. Let's go, baby, all right? So uh,
Speaker 1: on poker Go starting in. When's it start? When's the
Speaker 1: streaming start?
Speaker 2: It's on Sunday, right, yes, so what's that date? Am?
Speaker 1: Nineteenth?
Speaker 2: The first stream is the eighteenth or Sunday eight am
Speaker 2: Pacific time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so on Poker Go, you guys can catch all
Speaker 1: that action, of course, culminating with the big and bad
Speaker 1: Super high rollerbrowl. I'm going to be tuning in every day.
Speaker 1: I love this high buying stuff. I think it's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's all we got to talk about here.
Speaker 1: Looking ahead next well, hopefully we can do some pods
Speaker 1: while you're in Cyprus. Maybe you can grab some winners afterwards,
Speaker 1: maybe we can jump on a phone call, whatever it
Speaker 1: may be. I understand if audio quality may not be
Speaker 1: the best, but we'll deal with it because we're going
Speaker 1: on the road, baby, or at least you're going on
Speaker 1: the road for this series. So it'll be good to
Speaker 1: check in with some people over there, get a vibe
Speaker 1: of what's happening, all that sort of stuff. And then
Speaker 1: the kind of the biggest thing that I'm looking out for,
Speaker 1: and I know we hit about it earlier, is I
Speaker 1: want this WPT win World Championship schedule to come out
Speaker 1: like I want. I want to see it, I want
Speaker 1: to dissect it, I want to look at it. I
Speaker 1: want to see how it compares to the way Paradise stuff.
Speaker 1: December is going to be massive, of course, of course,
Speaker 1: and that's what I thought I'm looking forward to. So well,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us. My name is Donnie Peters,
Speaker 1: his name is Tim Duckworth, and we'll talk to you
Speaker 1: guys soon.
Speaker 2: Thice Express